psyker-class

[digital narwhal]

Smite and Assail are so fucking cool

[hasty valve]

guess sprint is better than the low ranged dmg?

[digital narwhal]

Like, look how many enemies Assail just clears out

Definitely something to use with Gun Psyker for enemy clear, or maybe for Voidstrike n' Trauma users who want to clear more spread out enemies

[vestal fulcrum]

Considering that there is a head-hunting keystone, I imagine Assail will be excellenct for stacking it quickly

[digital narwhal]

100%

Assail is not going to be as shit as people thought

and also, safe to assume that these are the normal versions

Let alone Empowered Psionics

[viscid matrix]

Assail has soulflame

assail is lighting shit on fire

[vestal fulcrum]

Might be a feat-based upgrade

[digital narwhal]

Multiple knives went for that one dude-

Maybe focusing them on one target stacks Soulblaze?

[upper galleon]

yea smite doesn't look like surge staff

[digital narwhal]

The purple lightning orb

is so cool

[viscid matrix]

i hope Surge staff actually gets changed to that cool purple lightning

[digital narwhal]

I hope Surge gets a rework

[viscid matrix]

that too

[digital narwhal]

It deserves one

(and yes, purple lightning too)

Or maybe they'll keep them seperate for teammates to be able to tell them apart easier

[upper galleon]

smite seems pretty different from surge (judging from the trailer)

i do agree surge staff should get the purple color

[digital narwhal]

That's the single target version of Smite

100%

Let's hope that being able to one shot a Damnation Rager is true for it.

If so, it'll be a wonderfully versatile Blitz

But-

he already looks scorched

so

maybe not.

[dry oar]

I am devestated that psyker shield cannot be placed on allies like warrior priest saltz bubble

[digital narwhal]

I thought the Shield would follow you around

like, centered on yourself

[dry oar]

I mean its cool nonetheless, you can pop a shield to cover a revive and give ally vets a chance to fire back

Being bullied by sharpshooter gangs is no more

[olive ember]

Reddit is riding the surge staff again

[digital narwhal]

Pfftt

[digital narwhal]

Bro's never heard of Trauma.

"B-B-But it doesn't stop Muties!"

So fuckin' what?

Knocks everything else down onto it's equivalent of an ass, and actually does damage.

Also-
"Trauma is too awkward to aim" is a skill issue if I've ever heard it.

[thorn cedar]

it is pretty fkn awkward

[still hearth]

These people are literally delusional

[thorn cedar]

i have never meshed with trauma/corus staff

and lets not pretend its interaction with stairs is fun <.<

[olive ember]

I mean yes the ground circle is harder to use than spam auto spam lightning but

[vast hare]

I do think trauma's aim mechanic is a big fucked

bit*

[digital narwhal]

That's the only fucky part about it for me

which they could fix by making stairs count as a solid slope

[olive ember]

It’s honestly that bad after a while

[still hearth]

Circle should just go where I aim at

It's not that hard

[digital narwhal]

instead of actually filled with holes

[lunar hollow]

trauma is more awkward to aim but it also doesnt have stupid target caps and better damage vs unarmored and whatnot

[upper galleon]

surge is the worst staff if you try to use it as a primary

it's just a support staff that is good at it's job so noobs think they can go along just "supporting" their team

[echo sigil]

surge strongest staff for hardest content? what copium world does he live in?

[olive ember]

Reddit loves the surge staff

Like post after post talks about how great the surge staff is

[echo sigil]

the worst part is, people actually believe it too

[echo cosmos]

The darkened image that was posted on Twitter is related to Psyker

[broken edge]

I love my void strike staff, shooting giant orbs through crowds is all I need

[olive ember]

“After a few casts you're throwing out fully charged armor melting lightning bolts with basically zero charge time, and this thing is DEVASTATING. When you spec for peril resistance you can basically keep casting forever. It isn't uncommon for me to chain 15 heavy attacks from my lighting staff without needing to quell, and I'm yet to meet a horde that can take that, even on Damnation.“

[olive ember]

This is a real comment posted by someone on the Reddit and people upvoted it kekw

[lunar hollow]

15

what

[olive ember]

comon Josho

[lunar hollow]

i uh

[olive ember]

Only 15 charged RMB’s

[lunar hollow]

i dont know if theyve worked the numbers on surge peril gen

i do not think it works like that...

[safe crystal]

ANY HORDE

[echo cosmos]

They mean heavy staff strikes, obviously

The staff melee

[safe crystal]

Damn, i gotta start zapping poxwalkers

[dawn wolf]

Purgatus is love. Purgatus is purity.🔥

[harsh urchin]

The funny thing is that any truly overpowered weapon, you wouldnt care how many ppl in your lobby were using it

[digital narwhal]

Purgatus isn't Trauma, and that means it's shit.

[harsh urchin]

Like 4 BM axes

Or 4 autopistols

If theyre saying "its best if theres 1"

Maybe the weapon just sucks 🐶

[teal needle]

Hmmmmm could I get away with 50% charge speed on a trauma staff or should I keep pulling

[olive ember]

uhhh

50% charge speed is a bit icky

[lunar hollow]

do not dump charge rate on trauma

you will hate yourself for it

trauma charge rate scaling is very wide

[teal needle]

Yeahhhh I'll keep pulling

[echo cosmos]

Charge is the most important stat for Trauma, no?

[teal needle]

I got one with great everything but only 64% damage. Still considering it

[harsh urchin]

Dmg isnt that important

Afaik

The range of dmg isnt too huge

[plucky flax]

It is for easier dreg bruiser breakpoint.

Without unarmoured.

[upper galleon]

running 6 charges+ peril resist feat

and like, idk

but doing damage to hordes with surge LMAO

you are killing like, 3 per fully charged cast

[lunar hollow]

that doesn't come out to 15 fully charged surge casts once flurry is up

[teal needle]

Well, Hadron gave it blazing + nexus

[lunar hollow]

u cant kill enough to reliably get battle meditation procs

[teal needle]

So I guess this is my new stick

[upper galleon]

mental redditor

[lunar hollow]

this guy is obviously exaggerating but even then like

if u scale the number down

its also ????

what the fuck are u surging that many times

(hordes, which he shouldnt be)

[plucky flax]

Surge the specials train so teammates can kill them.

[dry oar]

Laughs in zealot power hammer

[teal needle]

Alright what perks we like on trauma 🤔

I guess crit chance if I'm going blaze + nexus?

[plucky flax]

Crit chance and flak if you run blaze trauma.

Idk the other bad trauma build.

[still hearth]

Don't run blaze trauma though

[teal needle]

lol rending isn't bad, it's just not the best

[plucky flax]

It's bad because it doesn't help you.

[olive ember]

It's bad because everyone in discord is selfish

[vast hare]

The problem probably is that they actually are, as far as pathfinding models are concerned

[plucky flax]

[dry oar]

As long as it has high dmg and fast charge, just run warp battery for 6 stacks + warp weapon talent + peril resist. Doesnt matter what you face if you pop of like 6 charged bursts. Perks be damned

[olive ember]

fucking selfish in war

[vast hare]

it would likely work better if the stairs were actually stepped

game engines can be weird

[plucky flax]

It's how you survive. Step on teammates corpses

[olive ember]

@lunar hollow

the guy wasn't exaggerating

[lunar hollow]

the guy wasn't exaggerating

he claims he was getting 15 full casts of surge once flurry is up?

[olive ember]

I've seen a lot of people saying that the surge staff isn't very strong, and oh boy are those people wrong. This thing SLAPS. Is it the highest damage staff? Probably not, but if you think it doesn't kill well at all then you're using it wrong or you aren't hitting breakpoints.

This staff wants to be charged up all the way before casting, which isn't fantastic, but that's why we pair it with the 10% faster charge time after each salvo perk, whatever tf it's called. After a few casts you're throwing out fully charged armor melting lightning bolts with basically zero charge time, and this thing is DEVASTATING. When you spec for peril resistance you can basically keep casting forever. It isn't uncommon for me to chain 15 heavy attacks from my lighting staff without needing to quell, and I'm yet to meet a horde that can take that, even on Damnation.

If you build your perks around this staff and commit to full charges you'll never need to put it away and you'll never stop casting, even at full peril.

Just saying, if you're the guy who refuses to play with Surge staff users on Damnation you don't know up from down. I am the anti-specialist and anti-elite psycher. I am battlefield control and overwatch combined. Surge staff is insanely powerful, and you might want to give it another try.

Surge staff is supreme, my beloved told me so, so fight me.

[lunar hollow]

If you build your perks around this staff and commit to full charges you'll never need to put it away and you'll never stop casting, even at full peril.

?????

[dry oar]

trauma better

[lunar hollow]

this isn't true for literally any staff except voidstrike

[vast hare]

Warp Flurry and Warp Nexus

[spice oar]

guys

[olive ember]

I AM THE BATTLEFIELD CONTORL AND OVERWATCH COMBINED

[vast hare]

The issue is it generates alot of peril

[spice oar]

what was that at the end of the vedio

[olive ember]

I AM THE ANTI SPECIALIST AND ANTI ELITE PSYKER

[lunar hollow]

lmfao

[vast hare]

you cant ever really get to max stacks unless you pop off 4 short charges first

and have your ult ready to buy more bar

[wild inlet]

those shields look amazing

[plucky flax]

I was attempting tru duo meme hishock + grims with surge staff but trauma would have worked better for sure.

[wild inlet]

but those brain knives....

[vast hare]

the purple lightning

the purple lightning

[olive ember]

@lunar hollow

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/16oycab/people_who_shit_on_surge_staff_have_no_idea_what/

[wild inlet]

biolightning, my love

[dry oar]

Obliterate specials with BB and trauma for hordes, your surge staff sucks at both of those

[olive ember]

"The fact of the matter is most varlets aren't clearing Hi-Intensity Damnation let alone Auric Maelstrom missions. Anyone regularly playing the hardest game modes already understands the tremendous value the staff brings to the team.

Hint: the value isn't reflected in the Scoreboard mod."

180 upvotes

[lunar hollow]

this fuckin post

[olive ember]

none you fucks have beaten hi in damn, much less auric maelstrom

[lunar hollow]

ive ran 3 hi5s in the past 2 days

[plucky flax]

He's hyperventilating but surge is not bad though. Why people here make it like its the worst staff (voidstrike)

[wild inlet]

Look, they're playing at a different level to the rest of us. Hi intensity malice

[lunar hollow]

shitty internet btfo'd me

[olive ember]

Discord is dying yeah

Nah it’s not internet it’s discord

[lunar hollow]

wow

for once

[wild inlet]

discord deffo

[olive ember]

I could tell cuz im logged into ffxiv, which has such shit netcode that it will kick me out the moment my internet has a hiccup

[harsh urchin]

Wait until next Thursday for the patch

I can guarantee you'll never win again

[lunar hollow]

ill have the swarm of anti-josho haters sandbag all my games

[dry oar]

I wonder if psyker walls can block specials from passing through, like stunning a charging mutie

[plucky flax]

Isn't it only projectiles?

Maybe won't even stop flamer shot.

[dry oar]

Probably not seeing as its not a projectile

But who knows, maybe theres an augment that stops enemies from passing through walls

[brazen warren]

I think it said something about staggering targets that pass through, which would amount to the same effect for muties

[dry oar]

Buys you time then if nothing else

[wild inlet]

that the shield lasts time, and doesn't have like a health pool, is amazing

[dry oar]

Yeah so when you face a group of reapers you wont have to worry about it shattering, which is really nice

[olive ember]

I think there was hearsay about a wall upgrade that stuns melee enmies that walk through it

[brazen warren]

zealots getting a flamewall grenade, hope to see it alot honestly

[wild inlet]

finally get those bombers back

[dry oar]

the bombers should be in the NFL with the insane lobs they make

[wild inlet]

they are so accurate through the tiniest gaps

[dry oar]

scoping your exact location smacking you in the face with a nade

behind a railing behind a wall

[wild inlet]

one bug I wish they'd fix for psykers is locking on through railings/netting

[dry oar]

Thats good point

[wild inlet]

if a sniper can hit me through railing, I should be able to lock onto them

[dry oar]

no need, we have shields now

Muahahahahaha

[wild inlet]

oo, now will the shield block sniper fire?

Like, I wouldn't expect it to... but...

[dry oar]

its meant to block ranged fire

[wild inlet]

Sure, but sniper fire has always been an exception

[dry oar]

unless heretic snipers are using anti-psyker rounds I dont see why it would be any different

[digital narwhal]

I hope Smite pushes Bursters back like Surge does

[dry oar]

I hope smite causes decapitations

watching lightning spread across a horde leaving them a blood mush

would be very satisfying

[lapis bay]

It looks like it vaporized the berserker, which is COOLER

[wild inlet]

psychic knives just look so much fun

[lapis bay]

It'd be cool to have a party of 4 psykers all spec'd into diff things, just a bunch of whistling knives, lightning streams, shields and BBs

[dry oar]

man

Being able to completely shield your allies against pesky shooter groups is cool enough by itself

[lapis bay]

Shooters really were the hardest thing to counter, and now we have an actual tactic against them

[dry oar]

Giving your gun toting ogryns time to mow down the encroaching horde

[still hearth]

Yeah waste all that ammo

[wild inlet]

gungryn going uberfire

[still hearth]

Lets gooo

[dry oar]

biggun gotta eat

[noble bison]

It feels great! I love to use either of the shields and just spam Assail tbh.

[dry oar]

Both work, as long as the shooters are dead in the end

still kinda sad we didnt get a sniper for the vet class

Decked out helbore

obliterating reaper skulls

[upper galleon]

sharpshooter is the sniper class

[dry oar]

i meant a sniper weapon, not as a subclass

[upper galleon]

yee

long las is soon TM

probably next year, since it was in the datamine, just hasn't been finished/released

[dry oar]

Anyway aside from the weakest class in the game

I wonder what benefits the dome will have over the shields

[lapis bay]

I wonder if we can spec into stopping sniper fire

[still hearth]

It's a dome

That's pretty benificial

[dry oar]

Put your back to a wall, just as much protection as a dome

Well, with a shield infront of you.

[still hearth]

You can't always have walls where you need to shield

[lapis bay]

My take on it is you prolly cant do multiple domes, but you can do multiple shields

[still hearth]

They literally show a spot where the wall would've been worse in the trailer

[upper galleon]

you can set up multiple walls but not domes it looks like so

[still hearth]

Multi walls could also have shorter durations or something

[upper galleon]

walls are better at jsut, closing off a specific view point

domes are fro making a big circle but sometimes you don't need all that

[lapis bay]

I wonder if they'll also block lobbed grenades

[dry oar]

15 seconds is long enough to put down enemy fire though, and if dome can't stop enemies from passing through then imo its no different aside from having fewer max charges.

[still hearth]

Assuming enemies are on the same level as you, and there's a good placement for the wall.

[dry oar]

The only good placement for a wall is between you and gunfire

[lapis bay]

Could also lay a regular shield against a spawning door

If they cant cross it it's gg

[still hearth]

Idk, the value of just press button be safe feels pretty good to me

No need to aim it or have conditions

[undone fossil]

Domes look cooler

Simple as

[dry oar]

I don't feel like darktide really makes conditions for something as simple as placing a wall that can't be fired through. Verticality won't matter unless they are directly above or below you, and even then the dome isn't a full sphere above and below.

[lapis bay]

I wonder also if the flat shields can theoretically block more, like flamer attacks or warpfire

[dry oar]

It would be badass if that was the case, blocking fire would make for very defensible positions. Grenades are projectiles too so hopefully they are blocked as well

Creating a small psychic fortress will be very fun.

[wild inlet]

This is my Fortress of Solitude

[prisma copper]

Just saw the video they released and holy fuck does psyker look even more badass now

[teal needle]

Guessing there will be an uptick in siblings

[digital narwhal]

Veteran Sharpshooters grumbling n' whining as they put on the funny hood and attach tubes to their uniforms

[prisma copper]

More Spark’eds

[digital narwhal]

These new abilities look really awesome-

I hope they adjust Brain Rupture, as it's called now, to look a bit more flashy alongside what we're getting

[idle aurora]

Actual psyker support build inc

[dry oar]

gotta feed the emperor somehow

[idle aurora]

With all this stuff cooldown reduction perk on curios is even more juicy

[dry oar]

12% if you have it on all 3 curious, not bad

[idle aurora]

Ye + that skill that reduces it by 15% for elite kills, on spec gauntlet its very usefull

[dry oar]

without augments it would be 36-ish seconds for 1 charge if you go the multiple shield option, with 12% cooldown reduc on curios

[gilded viper]

Psykinetic’s Aura was always mvp

Let’s hope it survives the talent tree update

[dry oar]

Warp siphon seems to have gotten changed for something like the quicken skill

wait

wrong thing

nvm

The iconic warp siphon skill got changed for something like the quicken talent

instead of 4% per warp stack it just provides a cooldown reduction for the next combat ability used

[plucky flax]

Met another fellow blaze traumer user in the wild.

He was using warp battery though not wildfire.

[queen fog]

biggerer number does feel good but i understand

[golden frigate]

imagine not wildfiring

smh

[plucky flax]

I unlocked the funny frame. Too many hab dreyko memes.

[golden frigate]

I wish there were more investigations but eh

[humble swan]

what is the current meta for psykers?

[golden frigate]

blaze void

[plucky flax]

Illisi surge.

[golden frigate]

but in all seriousness, blaze trauma kinda slaps, illisi surge is braindead spam

[still hearth]

I mean the big patch comes on Wednesday next week so not a great time to consider the current meta.

[humble swan]

oh, is that the one with talent revamp?

[still hearth]

Yeah

[humble swan]

ah

[still hearth]

And more

[idle aurora]

i am at like 140 missions

[plucky flax]

Keep grinding fren. Soon you will become a tru hab dreyko memer like me.

I got so desperate I started doing solo hab dreyko with bots too.

[idle aurora]

also repair mission, but on that one you can rush a pretty big part of map without stopping

[plucky flax]

I have so few repair.

I think probably low 100s.. It'll take me a while but I prefer the investigation frame anyway.

[golden frigate]

jesus that's sad

[plucky flax]

Got the 1500 missions frame. Next is 1 mil kills.

[plucky flax]

Surprisingly smoother than some meme dreyko with real players.

[golden frigate]

yeah pretty easy to believe

can't wait for shield psyker and taunt shield ogryn

even usueless players will have some sort of weight with those

[fluid knot]

Did they ever fix the modifiers breaking after the first area?

I barely ever play hab

[echo sigil]

how close are you on that one?

[plucky flax]

Nope it's the easiest map.

[plucky flax]

I'm at around 955k.

[fluid knot]

Go figure smh, thats why i dont play it

[echo sigil]

oeee... thats not too far off then

[plucky flax]

It's ugly frame tho.

Won't use it.

[fluid knot]

Next big one for me is the Strike missions one

Gimmie dat grenade frame so i can run it on Ogg with the big bomba

[lyric burrow]

1 mil kills takes so long

i have 600 hours and im not even halfway iirc

[plucky flax]

[idle aurora]

i am 1k in, around 720k kills

[lyric burrow]

im pretty close on the missions one though

investigation

[cinder moon]

but do you have indefatigable

[lyric burrow]

although maybe not to the portrait

[idle aurora]

also 420/500 on the one where you need to rescue teammates that died

most funny part, this one is so easy to farm when you level up a new char and play with noobs on malice, they get rekt, you get ez farm

[plucky flax]

I got that quite early on during play hours.

Too many meme clutches. Xd

[spice oar]

That wasn't a grenade that was a warhead wtf

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i def have the rescue one

[stoic gazelle]

Same! 🥹

@golden frigate Nice trauma btw 🥹

[warm meteor]

do we just have the video as info or is their more info elsewhere on the upcoming changes

[golden frigate]

twas you! trauma team for the win

even if I spent more time dead than alive lmao

[stoic gazelle]

It was me! 😍

New mission starting

[golden frigate]

i'm out, gotta wake up in like 6h for work 🥲

wish you all the good luck possible man

[spice oar]

peep fatshark forums

whole overview of all the main tree features for each class

[flint mantle]

How do I ideally finish my new Surge staff? +crit chance, flak dmg, specialists dmg? which one should I pick as a replacement?

[lethal lagoon]

Coming back after a couple months. Is the Xlly force sword still great or did it get nerfed?

[spice oar]

still great

[lethal lagoon]

Noice, thx.

Surge you need crit chance for sure. The other doesn't matter that much.

Manic obviously isn't great but weak spot damage is additive and useless even if you are dealing weak spot damage lmao.

[old oyster]

i like more a knife things and lighting

looks funny

[flint mantle]

yeah the staff is far from perfect but I just wanna roll it to have a Surge staff lol

crit chance it is then

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is honestly a support staff, you won't be topping DPS numbers unless the RNG gods bless you with 90% flak enemies.

So that's a good idea

I love using it though, chill gameplay

[flint mantle]

why is Crit good then? Does it deal a ton of dmg when it crits? or does it stagger for longer?

[lethal lagoon]

Crit is best because of the surge's crit damage, yeah. Keep in mind the word is best.

I mean don't get me wrong you can still shread flak and armored boys.

[flint mantle]

yeah I see. thanks for the advice

[stoic gazelle]

Thanks 😍 Purging takes its toll on sleep ^^

[still hearth]

It isn't good.

Its just the best option.

[cinder moon]

had some real chaos energy today

[olive ember]

you clearly haven't decimated damnation hordes with 15 charged RMB's

[cinder moon]

[olive ember]

stay in malice

I refuse to acknowledge revolver psyker as a meta option

smh

[teal needle]

Surging into hordes

[spice oar]

i mean, give it 3 days and it probably will be

also its actually good with max reload speed

[cinder moon]

i have speedloader on mine as well

[plucky flax]

What's the build? Warp battery for max breakpoint meme?

[cinder moon]

i'm using it with wnr and wildfire/AB

just for fun

[plucky flax]

Fair.

[still hearth]

👀

[still hearth]

In Malice right?

[cinder moon]

heresy

[still hearth]

Okay that's fine

[teal needle]

I'm still on team revolver psyker is a sampling error

[cinder moon]

i have a real build for damnation

[teal needle]

Revolvers Georg should not have been counted

[cinder moon]

that said, even in damnation my revolver build isn't bad, just requires teammates to not be morons

wildfire/AB does a fair amount of work with wnr

[spice oar]

idk i forget what i run i just maxed out crit chance and reload speed with speedloader and crucian roulette

[cinder moon]

there's a blessing that gives bonus crit chance after melee kills, too

not sure if i like it more or less than crucian

considering you're melee 90% of the time until you need to pop something quickly

[teal needle]

You can get silly crit on revolver. Like close to 100% right?

[plucky flax]

Surgical and crucian roulette seems better.

[cinder moon]

if you're using surgical to any degree you could've just brain bursted them

the best thing about revolver is that you can whip it out and pinpoint some unit halfway across the map or through a mob

[spice oar]

combined with flayer it kinda just fucking slaps honestly

[cinder moon]

yeah, you can annihilate a lot of larger units in a cylinder or less

especially if you soften them up with wnr

[spice oar]

now IMAGINE what we will do with it when we activate that scriers gaze and disrupt destiny

[cinder moon]

tbh i'll be spending most of my time with bio lightning

surge staff is fun but i don't enjoy the fact that it's a staff

[spice oar]

well yeah we can run that too

[spice oar]

ig its a cc staff, but i want my lightning to fry mfs

[teal needle]

Flayer + shredder truly slaps. It both shreds and flays

[cinder moon]

shredder got boring for me, plus you lack range

[spice oar]

and after seeing the trailer i am definetly frying mfs

[cinder moon]

end up needing to BB snipers if nobody has a range solution on the team

[teal needle]

That's what bb is for if you really need to hit something you can't close on

[olive ember]

NEVER

[cinder moon]

with revolver i use bb as an can opener on bulwarks/crushers/ragers

[olive ember]

everyone knows recon lasguns is going to be meta

[spice oar]

yeah but warp cowboy?

hello?

[still hearth]

I've hacked Fatshark and I can tell you for certain ||------------------||

[lethal lagoon]

Just run a BB build and use any loadout you want, meh.

[spice oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/785022109474488340.gif?size=64&quality=lossless

[cinder moon]

anyone ever seen a daemonhost do a magic trick?

[spice oar]

simply a mirage

[queen fog]

i've seen a different clip of that happening and it woke up

truly a magical thing the director has put in front of u

[cinder moon]

it probably would've woken up if it weren't for my dueling sword lol

[queen fog]

yea quick ass thinking there

also i hate how smooth the DH spawned in

[cinder moon]

abra kadabra, motherfucker

[queen fog]

like u just doing the usual sidestepping a trooper

and boom on the other side of said trooper's back they're just THERE

[cinder moon]

that room was on fire for like a minute before i clipped that, too

could've been a lot worse

only downside to revolver psyker is needing to BB daemonhost

i can't hit that stupid head when it's dancing

[queen fog]

yea it does like flailing its body around when fighting

[spice oar]

man its been a while since ive killed a daemonhost

always spawns when im not running deflector and deflection

[cinder moon]

i don't mind doing it as long as at least 3 people can DPS it reliably, but usually in pugs some dingleberry wakes it up and dies

surge staff noob just blasting away into crowds or a flamer zealot

[fluid knot]

Lol, i run WnR an Wildfire in Damnation, its quite funny how much some people get upset about it despite it having massive damage thresholds 😄

With KB though, AB is a dead feat for WnR

[cinder moon]

i only use AB because revolver/dueling sword loadout

need something to help with hordeclear

[fluid knot]

Oh ye nah that makes more sense if you're not running a stave

[cinder moon]

i could go ez mode and use illisi but that's boring

[fluid knot]

Deimos 4 lyfe

[craggy egret]

Whats everyone think of the new skills that lightning and shards look awesome

[fluid knot]

Too fun poking plogryns eyes out 😄

[cinder moon]

finally got an illisi with deflector4/slaughterer4 and decided it was too much lol

[cinder moon]

UNLIMITED POWERRRR

[fluid knot]

It does make a lot of situations trivial for sure, its the Psyker's Bullbutcher

[cinder moon]

plus the drip with dueling sword/revolver and the new hat is too good to pass up

[fluid knot]

Swhy i like Deimos, you actually have to aim it, the hitbox is pretty precise

Oh ye forgot about the pirate hat

[fluid knot]

Should probably get that

Ye looks solid that does

[cinder moon]

may or may not get the peg leg when that rotates back in

[fluid knot]

You absolutely should lol

Pegleg is epic

[zinc phoenix]

is this good or shit? i havent played since a couple patches since release lmao

specifically for damnation pugging

i typically do force sword with the shield and a burninator stick

[plucky flax]

@native cedar I thought the name was familiar.

[native cedar]

You were the psy ?

[plucky flax]

Ye.

[native cedar]

Well, GG

[plucky flax]

This zealot dude crying about me being away the whole map.

[native cedar]

You kinda made me sweat on the junction

[plucky flax]

It's okay surge staff is op.

But psykers here will flame for using it in maelstrom. Xd

[native cedar]

I don't mind it at all. Being able to stop special in their track is super valuable

[plucky flax]

@still hearth

Tbf the zealot carried with monsters damage.

[native cedar]

Yeah. Cannot compete with thammer when it comes to unweakened monstro

[still hearth]

People are delusional because they can't kill stuff

[native cedar]

Stat btw

[plucky flax]

Tru I didn't kill stuff at all.

Exposed.

[manic halo]

So the bio lightning ability. Is that an ult or a blitz?

[plucky flax]

Damn your scoreboard is so long.

[still hearth]

Blitz

[plucky flax]

What's the addon to show build?

[native cedar]

Custom made

[manic halo]

That’s hot

I’m excited

[echo cosmos]

I honestly think the dome will be near useless

[native cedar]

I edited scoreboard mod, true level and idk which loadout one to register in scoreboard history

[plucky flax]

I see. I have builds when I press tab.

But not on the scoreboard.

[native cedar]

Yeah, twas pain in the butt to adjust

[plucky flax]

I somehow took 0 damage at end event.

Was juking dem fools.

[native cedar]

AH FFS

[plucky flax]

[native cedar]

YOU DID NOT HAD TO PREACTIVATE

[plucky flax]

LOL I wanted to get the mission done asap. The longer it dragged the more sus and memes.

Like when monsters spawning during event.

[native cedar]

Well, it worked in the end

[spice oar]

ok ive looked at the smite in the trailer some more and ive gathered that: Theres 2 distinct fire modes that seem to be left hand for the weaker version and right hand for the stronger charged up version (and another thing, the left hand does a little flourish at the end of the charge, at which point the ragers head explodes in a lightning blast that looks fucking amazing)

[echo cosmos]

We knew smite had 2 variants already

A blast that does heavy single target damage, and a longer zap that does weak damage but slowly spreads

[warm meteor]

so it seems like we will have options that are not BB

I like the look of those dart thingies

[still hearth]

That's kind of the whole point yea

[warm meteor]

thats not the whole point, or at least i dont think the update is just to give us options that are not BB

I last played in december 2022, have they buffed BB since then? or is it still bad

[spice veldt]

received a 10% damage buff and is now affected by Warp Unleashed (the new name of Psykinetic's Wrath, which became a global damage buff of 10%-25% scaling on your peril)

brain burst was always fine as this generalist weapon that was just shoehorned into a single-target killer role because it's basically one of psykers only reliable ranged single-target options unless you bring a gun

with warp unleashed, you can consistently two-shot bulwarks from 0% peril and with 0 warp charges

[warm meteor]

okay that doesnt sound too bad

[spice veldt]

some other changes to psyker

[warm meteor]

did they add any new staves or is it the same ones

[spice veldt]

still the same old 4

the lack of any good ranged burst DPS (without a gun) remains our biggest sore point

[warm meteor]

well hopefully this update makes us awesome

If not I like the idea of throwing rocks

[whole hawk]

whered u see this

[inland sand]

it's a change log

of all psyker changes thus far

but not patch 13

[whole hawk]

oh ok

[warm meteor]

stats nodes seem interesting, we can make tanky psykers! tho crit might be more useful overall XD

[spice veldt]

depends on how cracked our toughness gen will be

[warm meteor]

im also very curious on what a buff focussed zealot is gonna be like. will we get a true support class in this update?

[inland sand]

what do you define as a true support class

[warm meteor]

IDK if i got a definition off the top of my head, but in vermintide and darktide all the classes are killers first and foremost. with support play being more about controlling the horde for your team with stagger or rarely being outright support abilities like the sigmarite priests shield which can not only heal friendlies but even insta revive at range. I guess id like more things in the saltzpyre priest side of things

the holy icon sounds cool is all im saying

[spice oar]

i mean zealot confessor is very support orientated

with the making his team immortal

i wonder if the zealot themself is still vulnerable during it tho?

[echo cosmos]

That is my guess

But there is also the mass stagger of the new Squad Leader

[warm meteor]

you mean the new combat ability where they hold up the holy relic?

[spice oar]

yuh

[warm meteor]

is confessor the name of the "tree"

[spice oar]

in the datamined files thats what the class was called yeah

[warm meteor]

but yeah thats what im alluding too when i say we might have a support class

[spice oar]

psyker does with the shield or "protectorate" (also datamined name)

squad leader

and the bodygaurd ogryn

[warm meteor]

yes support abilities certainly exist with the new update

[spice oar]

can always mix the nodes of course and have a support maxed pillar

[spice oar]

the support abilities and their paths will have support orientated nodes, i imagine

[echo cosmos]

Dome doesn't seem that great imo.

The 2 shields seems much more versatile

[spice oar]

eh there is other stuff the shields can do

such as slowing down enemies that pass through them

[echo cosmos]

If you look at the shield part of the tree, the abilities are split into 2

[spice oar]

dome or dual wall yeah

[echo cosmos]

The right has dome, and the left has double shield and presumably anti special/elite

There aren't enough large areas to justify the dome

[spice oar]

the rightmost node is the interesting one cause a shield could mean many things, but it looks most like a toughness icon

[warm meteor]

is this an article yall are learning these details from? all i could find was a general explanation of blitzes, combat abilities, and keystones were. but not how we can change them with added buffs

[spice oar]

probs regen while in the dome

[spice oar]

check the fatshark forums

[warm meteor]

one thing that im curious about is how similar the bio lightning sounds to the lightning stave. it of course has its differences but the charged version that stunlocks enemies sounds like the same ability the stave has. guess that weapon just wont be a good match for that blitz

[spice oar]

yeah the staff is heavily outclassed in both functionality and cool factor

plus the smite gets a heavy single target shot that might just have made me scream in excitement when i saw it

[warm meteor]

yeah the smite really blows it out of the water

[spice oar]

not really dissapointed tbh i hated using it shit was boring

[warm meteor]

with its potential versatility and the right peril controlling abilities maybe we could do blitz only challenge runs

who needs weapons?

the darts seem to have an ammo counter, they say you can lessen its effect with the right perks but that does make me a little sad

hopefully it will still be spammy, i just want maximum psychic powers

[teal needle]

7.5% chance to get s free shard on kill with empower

[steel egret]

Well

You can still melee with staff

[zinc phoenix]

😂

[warm meteor]

thats true, with a good horde clearing staff I can prolly spam them quite freely in the right enviroment

[zinc phoenix]

I’m doubtful they do a big class rework and leave staves the smae

[warm meteor]

and it might be that with all the right perks its basically ammoless, just an opportunity cost to make it spammable

[warm meteor]

be cool if they droped the lightning stave for a new one

[spice veldt]

i have hopium for a quake lightning gun rework of the surge staff

[inland sand]

🙂

[zinc phoenix]

Karktide

[warm meteor]

I actually like the staff XD

but i havent played in awhile

[zinc phoenix]

I just purgatus + deflector force sword damnation for the memes

“Be blinded bitches”

I will definitely use the dome

[warm meteor]

i used surge and the flamethrower one the most. then i got the one that fires exploding balls of force and it became my main overall, but still used the surge pretty heaviliy

[zinc phoenix]

Maximum domage

[cinder moon]

that would be really cool

[inland sand]

wouldn't it just

[warm meteor]

with 2 shields and a good force sword you got 3 shields

I wonder if the shields have health

[cinder moon]

titan shield walls in destiny were kinda middling, but in DT could be more useful

i feel like the dome is built for holdouts we haven't seen yet, there aren't that many areas you'd want to hold position against elevated shooters

[digital narwhal]

Just get a Trauma Staff, and then boom.

[warm meteor]

i hope one of the shields abilties will be deflecting bullets

[spice veldt]

chasm assassination's midevent is one of the situations where it could be useful

but you can always just rush the ranged spawns down since they really only spawn from one direction

[digital narwhal]

Trauma still fucks Carapace, and so the apparent “reduced effectiveness of Carapace Enemies” wouldn’t be as impactful if you use Trauma with Assail.

[warm meteor]

is that the one that creates an explosion from the ground

[digital narwhal]

Ye

[warm meteor]

i dislike that one

[inland sand]

my personal favourite

[cinder moon]

trauma is hard to get used to

[inland sand]

but different strokes for different folks

[spice veldt]

fatshark was on crack cocaine by making it the first staff psykers unlock

[warm meteor]

sienna had a similar one and i just never could get it

[digital narwhal]

Since Assail seeks heads and has reduced effectiveness on Carapace, Maulers and Crushers are probably gonna eat Assail for breakfast, hence Surge or Trauma would be best for it imo

[cinder moon]

i tried out blazing trauma but i just don't get it

[inland sand]

it's not the optimal build for it imo

[cinder moon]

would rather gun/dueling sword or surge staff

[inland sand]

but it gets fun numbers

[digital narwhal]

Warp Flurry Solos

[cinder moon]

i don't even like purgatus and i'm a flamer zealot

something about it just doesn't work for me

[digital narwhal]

I hope Smite does good damage to Carapace

[spice oar]

Ima gunker

I went Las pistol and revolver and never looked back

[digital narwhal]

We should refer to Gun Psykers are Scrikers from now on.

[cinder moon]

i wanna try laspistol next because force push

[spice oar]

But gunker is funnier

[cinder moon]

but revolver is so much fun

[spice oar]

More useful than you'd think yk

Keeps peril up in a fight

[warm meteor]

force push on laspistol?

[cinder moon]

i have a headhunter/infernus 6d recon lasgun that i tried using once or twice on gunker, it was interesting

[digital narwhal]

I hope each of the Staves receive buffs on Oct 4th

I really do

[spice oar]

The Las pistol psykers get is unique

[warm meteor]

i was unaware we had a unique laspistol

[inland sand]

well we've heard the enemies are getting buffed

[spice oar]

Instead of a normal shove you instead do a force shove that has wider range and costs peril

[inland sand]

stands to reason that the arsenal would get some buffs as well

[cinder moon]

maybe we'll finally get reds

[spice oar]

If they do rework surge then I'll be surprised

[digital narwhal]

I mean... something more than compensation buffs

[viscid matrix]

yeh but the weapon itself is meh, id rather use a revolver

[spice oar]

Buffs sure but rework I feel like is pushing it for FS since it ain't the main part of the update

[inland sand]

it's the dawning of a new era my friend 🙂

[spice oar]

Different strokes for different folks - shit works for me (maybe cause commissar cos play with it and the dueling sword)

[cinder moon]

laspistol and mg12 bug me because they don't go where you're aiming when you're actually aiming

[viscid matrix]

fair enough, i only started playing gunker in the last few weeks myself

[cinder moon]

almost as bad as helbore shots going 30° off-center in hipfire

[spice oar]

But the gangsta sight

[cinder moon]

i wouldn't mind the gangsta sight if the gunshots actually went where the barrel is pointing

[lethal lagoon]

Gunker techncally getting a buff with the patch, since BB is getting improved a ton.

[spice oar]

Gunker getting a buff cause scriers gaze

[cinder moon]

i'm gonna miss my current gunker build

gunpowder and wildfire

[viscid matrix]

and Disrupt Destiny

[lethal lagoon]

Using scriers gaze instead of shield as a gunker feels like an attempt to be a mid vet though.

[spice oar]

Which sounds actually kinda fun

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, my bad, need to reread the notes

[spice oar]

Essentially tzeetch giving you a bounty on one of those heretics

[viscid matrix]

hmm, shield or scriers

thats actually a hard choice

[lethal lagoon]

Nvm no rereading lmao

juked me

[spice oar]

Nah nah we have potential to out vet them

[viscid matrix]

im on 5 hours sleep in 2 days, thats on me 😄

[spice oar]

The dmg increase from the gaze state is kinda insane

[lethal lagoon]

@spice oar Have you played crossfire autogun vet, that's just not realistic haha.

[shadow quail]

melks sucks so much for staffs

[viscid matrix]

they possibly dont have that anymore

[spice oar]

Yeah they might not have that anymore

[lethal lagoon]

@shadow quail I have two lvl 30 psykers, melks still sucks for staffs lmao

Oh, for real?

[digital narwhal]

Since Assail seeks heads, and Disrupt Destiny provides extra damage AND extra weak spot damage...
Reckon it could kinda fuck shit up?

[viscid matrix]

best bet, get the 10k gold whites until you get a good staff, then upgrade into a good weapon

[shadow quail]

I have so many better guns on my psyker than my vet

[digital narwhal]

[spice oar]

A lot of the main abilities have changes inspired by the previous talent trees, but some have those effects removed from the descriptions

[viscid matrix]

would crit chance from the Gaze apply to assail?

[spice oar]

Such as crossfire

[digital narwhal]

Maybe...
We’d have to test when it comes out.

[shadow quail]

just pullled this on my psyker, never going to use lmao

[digital narwhal]

If it does though, then... more Psyker Crit Builds?

[spice oar]

Sell it to me I'll use it tf

[digital narwhal]

You lucky fucker.

[lethal lagoon]

Crit makes me wanna wip out my Soulblaze trauma and force sword again.

So many things to do

[spice oar]

3 days

[viscid matrix]

that isnt that bad tbh, if you dont use revolver, kantrael is probably one of the best

[shadow quail]

Just wish they would make melk have more staffs

[viscid matrix]

melk weapons are meh anyway

[shadow quail]

Eh, I've gotten all my best ones from him tbh.

[viscid matrix]

ive gotten nothing good from him, i have better from whites and upgrading them

[shadow quail]

got the above, this from him:

[viscid matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1157737637096996944/image.png?ex=6519b2b2&is=65186132&hm=697c734e2604dd6e5ea7fb84269fe0451eb57e8ea8ff1aa30ecf8747068eab10&

i crafted this 😄

its not great, but its better than anything melk has ever had

[spice oar]

If melk could just be so nice to give me surge blessing

[shadow quail]

this is from melk

not that i use it

[viscid matrix]

just get white surge staves, upgrade to blue and hope for new blessings 😄

[spice oar]

Oh I do that too

Still no luck

[cinder moon]

my highest power ranged option came from brunt's

[shadow quail]

Gotten most of my good ones from melk tbh

[viscid matrix]

i dont like point blank, id rather Hand Cannon

[spice oar]

This is the "oh shit" whip out and eliminate threat revolver

[cinder moon]

exactly

rending is useless for anything except monstrosities

if it's not dead inside 5 shots, i fucked up

[shadow quail]

this one too from melk

[spice veldt]

revolver should deal pretty close to 100% for unyielding yeah?

497 damage compared to 420 unarmoured

i don't have my game open so i can't look at the base damage

but rending% does not help if you attack deals 100% or more damage to an armour type

[cinder moon]

hm

well most of the things i'm shooting are usually dead when i'm done shooting them, so the rending still seems pointless

[spice veldt]

you also basically get only 91 extra damage on crits from hand cannon

thx

[viscid matrix]

the one i have is shite right now

[spice veldt]

yup the revolver deals >100% damage to unyielding

[spice veldt]

so it'll only benefit carapace

or unless you're on crack cocaine and using the revolver to snipe a crusher from a distance

and because fatshark decided to use armour modifiers to adjust weapon damage based on range

[cinder moon]

soften with wnr then headshot, ez pz

once i get warp flurry 4 this'll be higher tho

[viscid matrix]

swap that flak to mania or unyielding, causee Surge does best damage against flak automaticly

[cinder moon]

yeah been meaning to swap it, just enjoying gunker too much recently

[heady swan]

Alright guys hit me with a laspistol god roll.

I wanna try the pewpew.

[inland sand]

Flak Maniac for perks

Dumdum/Ghost/Internus are the most useful blessings

[potent echo]

Excited for trueflight volley coming to psyker

[digital narwhal]

I’m excited for Magic Missile coming to Psyker so I can cosplay as a D&D Evocation Wizard

[tawdry drum]

Petition to ask the devs to give psyker Eldrich Blast aswell

[olive ember]

man surge staff is never going to get buffed sigh

[potent echo]

Because the majority players say surge too good

Stunning 5 poxwalkers?

[olive ember]

sigh

[indigo portal]

The primary attack on the Smite blitz makes me hopeful that I can shout [ BIDEN BLAST ] on every single elite.

[shadow quail]

just saw the trailer the psyker stuff looks intresting

[olive ember]

These guys give some stupid fucking abilities for surge staff as well

[shadow quail]

you feel it should be buffed?

[olive ember]

Surge staff is weak af

so yes

[shadow quail]

would you want more damage or more aoe?

[olive ember]

yes

[shadow quail]

if you had to pick?

[olive ember]

probably aoe

[shadow quail]

same

[elfin salmon]

aoe i thought whole point of surge is to cc not dmg

[olive ember]

The damage should be normalized atleast so it does what it does now to flak to unarmoured etc.

the fact that it tickles poxwalkers is stupid

[indigo portal]

Surge imo should be able to stun a reasonable amount of a horde. Have the chaining scale on hitmass, so elites will eat more of the lightning and it'll chain into hordes better. It's competing with 2 really strong CC staves, and currently it's only offering low multi target CC and strong-ish Flak damage.

Soon it'll even be competing with Smite. I'm guessing something occured to prevent power creep, but Smite has a single target attack and what seems to be just a Surge staff that scales the chaining on charge time.

[shadow quail]

what staffs are you all running

[olive ember]

I'd be fine if they just made a simpler change

make the target cap 10 or 15

I run everything besides voidstrike

purge, trauma, surge, autopistol, etc.

[shadow quail]

yeah void feels so bad

[echo cosmos]

Purg

[shadow quail]

and it's the best staff i have

buff void pls fatshark

[shadow quail]

Purg feels really good

[echo cosmos]

I am just a pyromaniac

[shadow quail]

Can't seem to get on with trauma though

[zinc phoenix]

purg work good enough on damn

if you can aim gun is prob better tho

[shadow quail]

I recon vet will get the most disgustingly OP talent trees out of all the classes on the 4th

[zinc phoenix]

but if you can aim... why you play psyker lmao

[olive ember]

because psyker is cool

and vet is not cool

[zinc phoenix]

burp of power

"wow, we are stunned by your mighty force burp"

soon in new patch psyker like "mmmmm magic missile"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oWAb5NVALw

[shadow quail]

Although, I still prefer the IIIisi over the PS

[zinc phoenix]

i do like force swords

deflector is based

[shadow quail]

I know the PS does more damage when charged but I just feel like my IIIisi can deal with hordes better without taking damage

[zinc phoenix]

well the charge is mostly for bopping shit that has armor

i use it to clap crushers

or stun ragers

for horde clear it isnt needed

[shadow quail]

the PS needs to charge to do anything

[zinc phoenix]

oh power sword

fs ps

my mind broke

[shadow quail]

ah

[zinc phoenix]

power sword is annoying af

i hate using that shit

[gaunt stone]

I think I win

[zinc phoenix]

can you even crit with trauma?

[gaunt stone]

I think so?

it's for the blazing spirit build

[zinc phoenix]

wait is trauma good now?

i am out of the loop

[shadow quail]

Yeah trauma is one of the best atm

[zinc phoenix]

what

[shadow quail]

I dont like it, but it apparently is

[zinc phoenix]

my mind asplode

[gaunt stone]

This

I just have like all my staffs maxed out

[zinc phoenix]

it was shit basically from launch until i quit

what changed?

[gaunt stone]

so I decided to throw resources at trauma

[zinc phoenix]

what is the blazing spirit build?

[shadow quail]

Yeah I threw shit at it and made a decent one, but just hate using it

[zinc phoenix]

ive just been pugging damnation with purgatus staff and the build i had months ago lol

[shadow quail]

I think most people view the staffs as Trauma-Purg>surge>void atm

i could be wrong but that is the impression i get

[zinc phoenix]

i like void but i cant get a voidstick to save my fucking life

[gaunt stone]

I think it's Blazing spirit and Crit nexus. There is also a brittle build that is supposed to be really good with a coordinated team.

[safe crystal]

Peril per cast was significantly reduced, thats about it.

That was the only reason the staff was considered bad

And maybe the targeting, but eh

[shadow quail]

I got this but not sure if I was doing it wrong because didn't seem to do much fire

[olive ember]

peril pure cast was reduced, the time it takes to quell peril was also shortened

so now trauma is good because it can CC everything short of mutants and bosses

and still do hordeclear and mixed hordes etc.

[spice veldt]

was still good before

[gaunt stone]

you need a high charge rate

[olive ember]

no it wasn't arcotash

[spice veldt]

yes it was

[olive ember]

stop coping

[indigo portal]

Might also be a case of launch fever. People used to think the knife was meta.

[olive ember]

.>

[spice veldt]

it was the peril gen on cast that was nerfed

you could still cast from ~70% peril like you do nowadays

[olive ember]

people used to think knife was meta because it had infinite self stacking bleed for like a week

[safe crystal]

I, too, enjoyed casting 2 traumas before i myself turned into a trauma blast

[olive ember]

and then no one realized that it was shit for like another 2 months after the bleed stacking was fixed

[shadow quail]

I'm not a fan of trauma myself

[zinc phoenix]

awww it was funny blowing self up. did they fix the targeting?

[olive ember]

lol no

[safe crystal]

Stairs are still a menace for trauma

[olive ember]

just don't get staircased 4head

[zinc phoenix]

lmao

[queen trout]

im stuck with purg cause i refuse to throw matches while learning other staff niches or play anything other then damn

[zinc phoenix]

they added a ton of new maps

[indigo portal]

It was absolutely a meta option when the bleed stacking was nuts but I distinctly remember people arguing that it was the best option by default even after they fixed that.

[zinc phoenix]

its not the same three anymore

i remember knife bleed thing

people argued not much on here about it, it was pretty settled as bad after the bug

... i still have knife on my vet tho lol

[indigo portal]

I was fresh off of V2 speedrunning playing WHC w/ rapier so I had wrist problems, I avoided knife because of it. Never got to fully experience the bug.

I still use it on Zealot since it's a fun single target weapon to pair with a Flamer, but it's push attack reliant to I never use it on Vet.

[olive ember]

most people here were on the antax push attack thing

tho tbh that was alot less noticeable

because no one knew at that point in time that the push attack was hard coded to have a damage cap of 3 enemies

[zinc phoenix]

Oh antax is bad now?

Good to know

[gaunt stone]

You ever just accidently earn blessing on the trauma staff you just linked

[cyan notch]

its as good as ever

[gaunt stone]

I guess it wasn't meant to be

[indigo portal]

My biggest gripe with people using Knife on Zealot is that they use 2-X-X-X-X-X, which is beyond stupid since you would need 100% uptime of the buff to compete with PiB. EWEW is also great for it because you're gonna be having EWEW up during mixed hordes with it's quite shit horde clear.

[cyan notch]

it was never bad

[safe crystal]

Not bad, but Rashad is considered better because it has finesse instead of cleave as a roll

[zinc phoenix]

I’m far too shit to combo

I just rely on dodging

😂

[indigo portal]

I think Derpy is trying to say that it's not a weapon meant to be push attacked with. Afaik it's good with BM still.

[safe crystal]

It just attacks a bit faster, and BM makes a cleave stat useless

[zinc phoenix]

Sometimes I even remember to heavy attack

[olive ember]

nah its still good (atleast until 10/4 then we see again) but basically the antax meta in december/jan was to spam push attack, the idea being that the push attack is almost completely horizontal and super safe because of kinetic deflection

then people eventually realized that the push attack is hardcoded to only damage 3 targets at a time, so even with BM you would literally only damage 3 enemies and the rest of the horde would only be slapped around

so now its lmb spam meta

[zinc phoenix]

Based I will use it always

[fresh reef]

do you guys think the shield will block only ranged fire, or things like bomber grenades and flamers as well?

[cyan notch]

i think itll block those too

[olive ember]

will it?

idk

[ocean iron]

Is there going to be talents geared towards a gun psyker?

[teal needle]

Yes

There's a super for it, and a keystone

Honestly maybe even two keystones if warp charges still give an across the board damage boost

[olive ember]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/talent-trees-deep-dive/83096

"Scrier’s Gaze: Triggers Scrier’s Gaze. When entering Scrier’s Gaze you gain +10% Damage and +20% Critical Chance. For every second in Scrier’s Gaze you gain +1% Damage up to a maximum of +30%. This effect lingers for 10s after leaving Scrier’s Gaze. While in Scrier’s Gaze you build up Peril. Build up is temporarily slowed down by enemy Kills. At 100% Peril, Scrier’s Gaze ends. Base Cooldown: 30s."

[ocean iron]

oh neat. Before the game released, I always wanted to play Psyker with a plasma pistol.
One step closer now

[olive ember]

real quick tho

[digital narwhal]

I mean, you can play as a Plasma Pistol Psyker right now

[olive ember]

ngl unelss the scrier's gaze peril gen is completely insignificant people are coping if they are thinking about scrier's gaze + trauma

[ocean iron]

laspistol?

[teal needle]

I wish they'd put in plas pistol

[ocean iron]

There hasnt been new weapons in a long time. I think we'll get a weapon focused update in future

[olive ember]

they would probably implement bolter pistol before plasma pistol

so

[ocean iron]

both please

[manic halo]

My body is ready erect a shield wall

[teal needle]

Bolter pistol, regular/heavy bolter for ogryn, krak nade launcher, plasma pistol... what else we missing?

[olive ember]

2h force sword 2h chain axe 2h psword

meltagun

long las or wte its called

the sniper rifle variant

[pure owl]

auto cannon or las cannon for ogryn

[digital narwhal]

Dual Wield Power Fists with mounted Flame Throwers and Machine Guns for Ogryn

Carapace Armour too

[teal needle]

Force halberd

[pure owl]

power fist also

[teal needle]

I don't know if they make those for normal sized peeps tho lol

[pure owl]

they do actually

commissars use them a lot

[digital narwhal]

Commissars get them

[pure owl]

tho that's less of a quick swap weapon

[digital narwhal]

Bolt Pistol + Power Fist is a common combination for Commissars to use

[pure owl]

and more something you wear around

[digital narwhal]

One in each hand

[pure owl]

honestly wouldn't mind double slot weapons if it means we can have stuff like power fists or sword and pistol combos

[bold patrol]

Psyker should get the option to dual wield staffs

twice the damage twice the peril and twice the fun

[mossy canopy]

Should I swap the deflector out for Superiority? Still working on getting the T4 blessing, RNGesus hates me

[potent echo]

Why superiority and not unstable or slaughterer?

[mossy canopy]

I'm using it only with my purg build and it only comes out to swat a mutie or crusher

[potent echo]

In that case I use unstable power

You would need maniac+25 if you want to one shot muties

Either that or keep deflector, it's useful sometimes as a purge psyker

[mossy canopy]

Unfortunately I've yet to roll unstable power but I'll keep fishing for it, thanks m8

[potent echo]

All this is going to change In a few days so best is to wait and see

[echo cosmos]

I love these artworks

Particularly the first two

The first one looks like the warp is draining from the psyker

[autumn smelt]

i just watched an ogryn shove a chaos spawn off a bridge

[potent echo]

Ezgame

If you time your shovel punches well after a charge you can Stunlock a spawn forever, or until you push it off a ledge

[willow escarp]

fun to do this to demon hosts too

[steep oriole]

I swear to god this game's matchmaking puts me in a server of 3 psykers when I queue for psyker

[teal needle]

I do feel like there've been a lot of psykers lately

[steep oriole]

is it cos of the upcoming update or is it just my own biases

I've not seen an ogryn or even zealot in ages

[teal needle]

Seen plenty of zealots, and there's always and endless flood of vets in this game. Haven't seen a lot of oggys tho

[bold patrol]

Yeah oggys are rare on higher levels missions

[shy pewter]

I get plenty of oggys on auric, not a lot of vets tho for some reason. Bias or matchmaking shenanigans

[autumn smelt]

man
wildfire trauma staff is just too fun, i hope the synergy remains in the overhaul

or better yet, is buffed

[fast swan]

look at the full image of the first. he's pulling the warp 'soul' out of a heretic to use as a blast

[echo cosmos]

Still awesome

[fast swan]

yea its badass

[echo cosmos]

Seen lots of oggys today

Like 4 in 2 missions

[true lake]

tbh ogryns are probably the most beginner friendly class

[olive ember]

seeing someone like wildfire

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-gif-23784180

[true lake]

tanky, relatively versatile, and pretty strong even without perfectly set up builds

also wildfire isnt that bad lol, pretty good for high intensity runs due to how much more it adds to the purgatus

granted the new class system might change that entirely anyway

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-star-wars-r2d2-dies-dies-from-cringe-gif-24076745

wildfire

[rocky cedar]

I feel like it helps a lot for blazing trauma to keep everything on fire with the kinda inconsistent procs

I don't think I'd run it on Purg personally

[willow escarp]

I see a lot more oggys lately and honestly less vets than usual

Lots of zealots tho

[fast swan]

what have the playtesters said about the funny new abilitiy that gives hella damage at cost of peril?

[undone fossil]

All I heard is that a playtester said “it doesn’t work exactly how most people will expect it to work”

[fast swan]

i see

sounds crazy fun tho

warp bullet gaming

[steep oriole]

I can't imagine recon lasgun with that

Cos its peril per second right

So just send as many bullets as you can downrange

[fast swan]

yea true

combine that with the % chance brain burst if thats still easy to access

max funny

[steep oriole]

Finally

Gun psyker

cos you want to proc as many crits as you can I imagine

[spice veldt]

crab remarked that you'll prob die more often when using scrier due to a combination of it not venting and the fact that it generates peril that increases in speed over time

[cyan notch]

hes a noob

[potent echo]

A casul

[cyan notch]

just dont spam peril lol?

not hard tbh

[potent echo]

What he said

[spice veldt]

probably increases in speed faster than you expect

[cyan notch]

im pretty good

besides im not gonna use a staff with it

[indigo portal]

Sounded like that was in regards to using a staff. The exponential scaling of the ult makes me think it'll be a numbers game to try and maintain the ult as long as possible while still benefitting from the +damage/crit.

[spice veldt]

you'll still have to waste your time quelling, which is what the staff helps with in the first place

[indigo portal]

It does sound interesting because I think a staff will have the better opportunity to keep the ult up, but the Gunker setup might allow people to use it more like a Sharpshooter ult.

It gives utility to both staves and guns from the sounds of it.

[spice veldt]

depending on the opportunity cost, i might just stick with the scrier ult when picking assail instead of the current ult given that they're on opposite sides of the tree currently

[lunar hollow]

the smite looks a lil depressing

if its basically just current surge ported to a blitz ability ill be a lil annoyed

[indigo portal]

It's got a single target burst and what does kinda just seem to be a Surge staff copied to the secondary. We haven't seen a good look at a fully charged Smite though, so no clue how well it can chain.

[lunar hollow]

though we're not exactly getting a great field test from the guys who show it being used on a single scab shooter

thats the problem with these fuckin trailers they use all the stuff they show off in dumb ways

[indigo portal]

If the secondary is just Surge staff, I'd hope they give some love to the actual Surge staff. I hope they both provide their own utility.

[lunar hollow]

my hope is that the lightning staff becomes more like

painful vs enemies

surge in its current iteration makes more sense as a blitz in my opinion

[lethal lagoon]

I mean surge + Illy is a perfect meta combo atm. I don't think the staff needs changing at all. I guess we'll see how the ability works in comparison.

[potent echo]

I don't think surge and meta belong in the same sentence

[indigo portal]

I'm hoping that the Surge staff can properly chain to a shitload of enemies personally. It's competing with 2 quite powerful CC weapons that share a potent killing power on top of that. Having the Surge staff just go hard with the chaining so it can chunk into hordes and still CC elites/specials in mixed hordes would give it that edge. Smite would be a middle ground option for people wanting to have strictly the elite/special CC and a bit of single target damage against lone elites, good for someone running a Purge or a Gunker setup.

[lethal lagoon]

Illy perfectly fills the flaws of surge, and the point of the psyker isn't to be the highest DPS(unless everyone on your team sucks).

Plus there's space for BB in there.

[spice veldt]

well yeah, illisi + bb alone will carry you a long way

[olive ember]

If the base CD is 30 s we can assume it lasts less than that

Unless CD only activates after effect ends

[spice veldt]

but if we're comparing between staffs, the utility of surge is very eh when it comes at the opportunity cost of the other staffs

because the specific niche that the surge has is mutants

[indigo portal]

The stacks of the effect require you to have it up for at least 30 seconds, which means there will be some way to keep it up that long.

[olive ember]

Surge is meta in a vacuum in which only two staves exist: voidstrike and surge

[olive ember]

🤔

[spice veldt]

and the meta ranged weapons on the other classes mostly being the ones that just absolutely dunk maniac enemies

[olive ember]

Hmmm

Normalized damage such that everything takes as much damage as flak rn and 10 or 15 target cap and I’d be happy with surge

But rn it’s kinda… well it’s nice for turning off the brain

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma get's melee overwhelmed easy, so it pairs well with Illy. But surge pairs better with Illy, and Trauma conflicts with BB, so why pick Trauma(from a effiency stand point)?