psyker-class

[spice veldt]

why me and not josho

[lyric burrow]

i already annoyed josho by calling shovel horde clear

[digital narwhal]

[spice veldt]

true

[lyric burrow]

gotta be fair

[languid tusk]

show me your trauma, I'll show you mine

[lyric burrow]

my trauma is bad

i have a good illisi and deimos tho

[teal needle]

I got my trauma from my parents, its an heirloom

(Im at work or i'd show you mine)

[harsh urchin]

🍆 show us

[north cradle]

Woot, it looks like my break from Darktide won't be much longer. I'm digging how Psyker is being handled here. Everyone's default grenades (I'm not calling them Blitzes) are getting an upgrade, and the new ones are conceptually solid

[teal needle]

Imagine psykers actually killing people with abilities

[gilded ember]

ig you can call this an upgrade?

[north cradle]

I'll probably still use the old ult, now known as Venting Shriek.

[spice veldt]

burst of extra damage
for Assail 😳

[teal needle]

Lmao hell id take it

[gilded ember]

what should i prioritise? perks or blessings

[north cradle]

For the one you have Currently Equipped? Yeah it's solid

[gilded ember]

the left one is my old one

used it for so long

[teal needle]

Oh... besides the blessings i kinda like the old one though

[north cradle]

I'd change Infested to Flak

[gilded ember]

yeah right? thats why i haven't switched

running this rn

[vast hare]

warp flurry on purgatus seems weird

its base damage is kinda ass so I dont think crit really does anything either?

Unless crits affect the burn?

[north cradle]

Crit double stacks burn

[vast hare]

thats good at least

[harsh urchin]

For purg blessings are higher prio than perks

[gilded ember]

and what blessings should i use again?

[vast hare]

Knowing how crit works with it, 100% go for warp nexus

[harsh urchin]

Nexus flurry

[north cradle]

Lemme look at my Purgatus to show you what I'm running. I haven't played this game since the crafting update that gives you two free swaps instead of one and one

[gilded ember]

aight i will wait

[gilded ember]

don't even have a lvl 4 blessing💀

[north cradle]

Oh cool we have a shared wallet now

[vast hare]

yeah shared wallet is an absolute blessing

also all the craft prices went down from what I can tell

[north cradle]

Neat

[vast hare]

that or the droprates just went u

up*

one of the two

[north cradle]

What does it take, 399 Plasteel and 99 Diamantine to max out the diminishing costs on rerolls?

[harsh urchin]

No more rolling

You just pick what perk you want now

[north cradle]

SWAG

Here's muh Purgatus

I don't remember why I went with Unyielding. But it's better for bosses...?

[gilded ember]

welp looks like i gotta get those lvl 4 blessings

[digital narwhal]

Yoooo

[gilded ember]

lol i never used that perk

[potent echo]

I prefer flak for burning down those damned shotgunners

[north cradle]

Also I suppose Infested is good for taking out Poxwalkers since they're more dangerous than regular hoodlums

[potent echo]

Also both flurry and nexus 4 natural rolls

[north cradle]

Yessir. Sire Melk pulls through once in a while.

[gilded ember]

wb this

[north cradle]

Oof

Where do I start with this

[potent echo]

Maybe good in new patch

Scrier knife psyker sounds really spicy

[gilded ember]

mostly using it for mobility

[north cradle]

Oh yeah, that Crit Chance tho

[gilded ember]

but tbh force sword is the way to go

[potent echo]

And the precision buff from the marked keystone

[north cradle]

Yeh, pick Deimos or Illisi and don't look back

[teal needle]

When i ran precog i just didn't see the buff up a lot even when i was in the thick of things

[north cradle]

Sword could be better, but it's still pretty good

[potent echo]

Deimos I take unstable power for easier mutie 1shots

But come oct4 all that is going to be moot

[north cradle]

I was never much of a fan of Unstable Power since Battle Meditation works against it

Especially on Illisi where you're just a weedwhacker

[potent echo]

It mainly for after I finish purging and have some elites left

Or mutie 1shots as mentioned

[north cradle]

You can stroke your Illisi quickly, yes, but I typically don't use that during hordes except as an opener

[potent echo]

For deimos

[spice veldt]

battle meditation will only really be a consistent quell against groaners

[potent echo]

Not illisi

[north cradle]

Fair, for Deimos

[livid root]

just pulled this outta my ass

[gilded ember]

what build are you running btw

[potent echo]

Damn

[spice veldt]

always a good idea to spam your illisi against hordes of sufficient density if you can afford the peril

[north cradle]

The normie build.

[spice veldt]

special spam is twice better than the heavy combo

results for a grey illisi w/o feats

[potent echo]

Stacked though

[spice veldt]

mhm

but there's quite a lot of leeway even if you don't use up all 20 of the cleave

and you can often get a lot of surface area if you go into hordes

trust in the stagger of illisi's special and you'll be fine unless you're surrounded by more than 180 degrees

and you can always swipe your camera around

[potent echo]

Definitely special spam for those chokepoints

[north cradle]

Or be a total memelord and use Blazing Spirit + Bloodthirsty with Wildfire as your perk

Hold up, can I also swap two perks on Curios?

[spice veldt]

ye

[north cradle]

Oh hell yes

Help me choose three perks

[potent echo]

If you ask me it's either going to be 3x sprint efficiency or 3x revive speed

[spice veldt]

i'd personally put toughness as in one of the others

though you're going all-in into toughness regen speed it seems

[north cradle]

It was the meta when I picked them

Health, Toughness Regen Speed, and Gunner/Sniper resists, because every other type of resist was pointless

[potent echo]

Gunner is kind of pointless imo

Cause either way if you are caught out you die

And if you cover you don't have to worry about gunner damage

[north cradle]

So maybe cut out Gunners and one of the Snipers and replace with Toughness?

[potent echo]

Some people believe in the toughness breakpoint of around ~160

Which is shotgunner full close range blast

On oct4 we can tune our health and toughness values so maybe wait till then and see how things turn out?

[flint pawn]

I find Gunner resistance useful

Not for outright tanking them but it's just barely saved my Toughness from fully breaking and stunning me while I'm going for cover

[potent echo]

Gunner only affects elites and reapers

[spice veldt]

i like my gunner res for diving ranged patrols for when I haven't bothered with killing them all

[flint pawn]

And that's still more than worth it

[spice veldt]

i would only ever take 1x gunner res at most because of the multiplicative stacking though

[north cradle]

Perhaps I should wait until the patch, yeh. I'll hold off on Auric missions too

[potent echo]

Auric's are fine because the team in general is much better

Let the level 500s carry

[digital narwhal]

Toughness Regeneration + Sniper Resist + Gunner Resist or bust

[potent echo]

Sprint efficiency and revive speed goated

[flint pawn]

Excuse me highly intelligent sir or ma'am, do you know if HP like, rounds up or down when taking decimal damage

[north cradle]

iirc it rounds to the nearest integer

[spice veldt]

i don't know, but there should be decimals

it rounds up iirc

[flint pawn]

If I have 123 HP and a Sniper does 122.5 damage, do I die or live on 1 HP

[spice veldt]

since unless they special-cased it, rounding down would result in a funny situation where your UI might say that you have 0 hp

[north cradle]

Isn't that what happens with Curios already?

[spice veldt]

yeah curios randomly add 1 to your hp on the UI

which is another reason why I think it rounds up

[north cradle]

If it sometimes does and sometimes doesn't when using different curios with the same listed blessing of different gear power, I think that's just rounding to the nearest integer

[flint pawn]

I ask because of figuring out anti Sniper stuff

[vast hare]

Holy bajebus

[flint pawn]

If it's just the UI that displays rounded and it holds on to the actual number then it'd mean a 5% HP perk and 2 20% Sniper resist perks lets a Psyker live 2 Damnation Sniper shots from 100%

[vast hare]

I still dont like warp flurry, cuz you can't really make good use of it without warp transfer

you at beast get only a handful of full charges shots before you have to break the chain

best*

it's amazing if you have warp transfer! but that's about it

[spice veldt]

yeah it's not like onslaught on the helbores where you have much more in your mag to work with

though there's not much competition anyways

[vast hare]

and don't explode

the helbores dont explode

😛

[spice veldt]

for blessings on staffs, so it ends up being one of the best

[vast hare]

Like imagine if the plasma had that kind of effect

it'd suck ass

cuz you have to vent every 2-3 shots anyways

[potent echo]

If you press F while charging the staff, you don't lose flurry stacks

It's something

[vast hare]

True, that does let you chain it a bit more

if you run 4% charges, double charge gen, 6 charges, and the cooldown one

[potent echo]

Also with flurry, I rather do full quells so I get more value

[vast hare]

it's theoretically possible to keep it up a long time

[spice veldt]

tbf plasma does have a stacking blessing in the form of blaze away

[vast hare]

the cooldown and double charge gen is the same one, actually

sort of yeah

but it's not quite the same

[potent echo]

And when using trauma, I use the peril resist per warpcharge so I get a huge amount of casts

[vast hare]

and it is ass, imo

[spice veldt]

blaze away is fine for hitting some bps

[vast hare]

peril res per charge is basically the best talent in that slot

[spice veldt]

e.g., hitting more consistent tbta two-shots on crushers

[potent echo]

Warp unleashed though

[spice veldt]

warp unleashed

[vast hare]

I hardly ever notice the damage change

[spice veldt]

free 10%-25% damage

[potent echo]

It's definitely there

[vast hare]

It doesn't feel like it changes any breakpoints

I guess it matters for bosses?

[spice veldt]

hits flamer one-shots and two-shots bulwarks w/o requiring warp charge management

[potent echo]

If you use illisi I guess it doesn't matter

[spice veldt]

matters for illisi if running unstable power + slaughterer against groaners and hitting a specific two-shot on mutants w/o slaught stacks

[vast hare]

Well, I suppose it dont matter anymore anyways

[potent echo]

Deimos gets mutie 1shot and ragers

[vast hare]

in just a handful of days everything changes

[potent echo]

Yea it's gonna be changed up alot

I'm just on the lookout for any attack speed nodes for psyker

Give me unchained

[spice veldt]

with 2x 20% sniper res and +5% hp, taking two sniper shots makes you survive with 2 hp on your UI

so it seems that the raw value rounds up? since w/o any rounding, you should theoretically survive with 0.7 hp which can only round to 0 or 1

[teal needle]

Unchained psyker would rule. My fav vt career

[rocky osprey]

the gods have cursed me with this brick

think it's worth going 2/4 since I don't have another illisi on hand?

and if yes any recommendations on what to change

[gilded ember]

what about this? i played this staff like 2 times... i think

[gilded ember]

imo go for Slaughterer and Deflector (blessings)

if you have it on hand that is

[rocky osprey]

pog roll. honestly would go for a second perk if there's a breakpoint you need, the differences with those t4 blessings is just QoL at that point

[gilded ember]

i don't have a single T4 blessing

[winter siren]

not bad hey?

[fresh reef]

Nah that's pretty bad

[winter siren]

i need more blessings

[fresh reef]

True

[lyric burrow]

Yeah sadly your stuck with one bad perk or blessing

[winter siren]

i havent rerolled anything on that yet obviously. i have deflector and slaughterer 3, precog and blaze 4. if only dodging blessings were more consistent

[lyric burrow]

Id use slaught personally

Over blazing

[winter siren]

on a soulfire build?

[lyric burrow]

If you wanna go for the soulblaze build you can but blazing spirit even with nexus doesn't do anything

Bloodthirsty i mean

Not nexus

If your going for the meme build then ignore me

But if your trying to make a normal meta illisi then slaughterer over blazing since it doesn't do anything

[gilded ember]

smth like this?

[winter siren]

i was playing around with this a bit, kinda sets everything alight

[lyric burrow]

Yeah basically

Ok that one might actually proc soulblaze more than normal cause of the damage modifier

[winter siren]

exactly

[lyric burrow]

If you do it with the one above though it wont work

[winter siren]

wet flaming noodle

[lyric burrow]

Youll just kill everything before blazing actually gets a chance to do something

[winter siren]

idk, soulfire is also very gpu taxing

but its fun to play around

[lyric burrow]

If you just wanna play around go ahead

Im just saying if you want to make the best illisi its slaughterer and unstable with flak/maniac as perks

Deflector can be used over unstable

[winter siren]

combo that with purg with the blessing that makes them suppressed and everything burns

[winter siren]

whats your position on curios? do you use stam? toughness or hp?

[lyric burrow]

i use one +3 stam one toughness one health

[winter siren]

the spread. i like taking hp for the corruption breakpoints but ive been playing a bit more with toughness recently. i always run stam. cant live without it anymore

[lyric burrow]

one +3 stam is pretty much infinite stam with psyker stam regen

hp is nice because of how squishy psyker is but i find 2 unnecassary with how good psyker is in melee and how well they can keep toughness up

[winter siren]

2x toughness with sniper on both can be clutch

[lyric burrow]

yeah i run sniper res

to get me over the 2 shot

other than that its toughness regen/gunner resist/health and toughness

[bold patrol]

Nearly perfect voidstrike. Gimme.

[gilded ember]

what build should i use for this staff

[bold patrol]

It really works with any build imo

But I use it on my brain burst build

[steel flame]

Id go with warp absorbtion, WU, aura/lacerations, kinetic shield. Flayer/battery, and kinetic barrage

But that's just me

Of course I only use blazing voidstaff anymore so dont take my word as law

Actually quietude in t1 is also good for that, but I prefer more burst regen

[rose lily]

is terrifying barrage any good on a surge staff?

[vast hare]

not rly

its on kill

surge staff doesnt rly do that

[potent echo]

Also the suppression on kill only lasts like half a second

[echo cosmos]

I wonder if Surge Staff will be buffed or changed with the introduction of the Smite

[vast hare]

It damned well better

cuz if the smite is weaker than the surge and the surge isn't buffed then smite will be hypergarbo

[echo cosmos]

Smite as advertised fills the same niche as Surge

[indigo portal]

It's a CC blitz which leads me to believe it probably doesn't stagger elites and specials as easily. I imagine it's just chain lightning that spreads easily through groups of enemies, so free damage on patrols and CC/damage against hordes/shooter clumps.

Surge probably receives a buff of some kind too, mostly since enemy difficulty goes up and Surge already scales poorly with difficulty.

[echo cosmos]

I do hope so

Surge was by far the weakest staff

[indigo portal]

I wouldn't say it's the weakest. It does considerable Flak damage and has (multi) single target CC. The crit stuff is nice with the primary as well, good modifiers for it. It's competing with the Voidstrike, while not bad by any means it simply doesn't keep up with it's siblings.

[manic halo]

Crit staff feeds the least amount of dopamine that’s why it feels worse

Every other staff turns them into sludge or you here the kill sound

[vast hare]

The surge staff feels nice when it does crit

[manic halo]

Surge staff happens less

[vast hare]

but it doesnt crit enough

[manic halo]

That’s my theory

[echo cosmos]

Voidstrike is the funny rocket launcher staff

[regal jasper]

I heard voidstrike whats up

I like voidstrike

[harsh urchin]

A rocket launcher that cant hit more than a few enemies and doesnt kill stuff

[potent echo]

It's audio design is pretty close to rocket

[meager bear]

are the left and right click spells on the trauma force staff the only other spells in the game for psycker?

[hybrid solstice]

void needs an overhaul imo, it feels like it's just a gun but not good and with awkwardly slow projectiles

[hybrid solstice]

The only psyker "spells" you have access to at any point in time are your staff's right and left click, your grenade button, your ult, and your force sword's right click assuming it has the Deflection blessing

[harsh urchin]

Slow projectiles are fine

They just need to not suck

Its so much worse than fireball staff in vt

[hybrid solstice]

They would be fine if they were worth it yeah

it is as you say

in auric damnation you need so much killing power for all the buff specials running around, i feel like (most of) the staves shortcomings are very overt at that level

[potent echo]

Your melee/kb will be working overtime on specials

[harsh urchin]

That's kinda the problem tbh

[indigo portal]

Voidstrike's biggest offering is the absurd suppression on kill, otherwise it's just a light CC attack with low cleave. It should probably cleave more so it can offer the utility of CCing stuff through hordes, while also damaging the horde. Otherwise I'd have to lab stuff for buff ideas.

[harsh urchin]

If they made it do double dmg and generate triple heat maybe itd be good enough

[hybrid solstice]

triple heat

You'd get to fire it like twice

[potent echo]

Transfer peril goes hard on that staff

[hybrid solstice]

To be honest i have no idea what they even want the staff to be

[indigo portal]

It is undoubtable that it does have an offering, and that it's unlimited warp bullets that CC stuff, but it's just not super impactful.

[potent echo]

Bowling ball with infinite range

Decent stagger and clear vs poxwalker hordes

[hybrid solstice]

either they need to make the explosion massive and stagger way harder or they need to make it hit harder, pierce better and fly a bit faster

[potent echo]

Huge suppression vs shooters

[indigo portal]

Piercing CC staff. A longer range line CC counterpart to the slightly range restrictive AoE Trauma staff.

[harsh urchin]

Thats how the fireball staff is in vt

And you fire it twice

And everything is dead

So you vent

[potent echo]

Nothing dies in cata though

[harsh urchin]

Your teammates are also dead cuz of FF

[potent echo]

Except maybe clanrats

That's true

[indigo portal]

You could spam Fireball staff quite fast, and often. It also applied stacks of burn on hit iirc.

[harsh urchin]

Stormvermin die in 2-3 fb, I'm pretty sure it 1 shots all non armor specials as well

[potent echo]

Fireball on unchained for me is mainly a way to quickly build up heat, but corusaction does that quite well too, I preferred that when I was still playing vt2

[harsh urchin]

Well coruscation was pretty busted

But yeah that is the power of staves I'm used to

Not.. voidstrike lmfao

[hybrid solstice]

The problem is the piercing is not good and "line CC" has very limited use in a game where enemies are constantly trying to conglomerate into an amorphous blob around you

[potent echo]

Coruscation in darktide please

QQ shotgun blasts were

[indigo portal]

I was responding to "To be honest i have no idea what they even want the staff to be". I answered that question. I was not saying what the staff currently is.

[hybrid solstice]

right my bad i'll clarify, the reason i said that is because all of its qualities seem so half baked, so if what you stated is the "intent", it's hard to even tell if that is true

[indigo portal]

The only thing that's restricting it from being what I said is the low cleave. It was probably put low because they were concerned about how well it could scale it higher difficulties. Alternatively they intended it to be a weapon where you could pin point stagger an enemy and have some cleave to allow for freedom. If that's the case though it is overshadowed by BB and in many cases the Trauma.

[hybrid solstice]

yeah hopefully it gets some love soon, maybe that'll shed some light on what the heck is even supposed to be going on with it

[potent echo]

New psyker talents buff weakspot damage

Voidstrike is the only staff now that can fully utilise that fact

[regal jasper]

I love voidstrike

[potent echo]

Long trauma goes brr

[hybrid solstice]

do guns not count in regards to that feat?

Im sure you could use a voidstrike with that but to me, that combined with Scrier's Gaze sounds like predominantly gun psyker stuff

[lyric burrow]

assuming its not tied to warp attacks id imagine

[hybrid solstice]

right yea

[lyric burrow]

that it would work for guns

surge m1 would benefit too

[hybrid solstice]

so assuming void doesnt get buffed with the release of the update, it seems like it'd be far better to just use a kantrael or something with that

[potent echo]

Yea for sure it's gonna have much more value on guns

But void doesn't use ammo

And if you wanna go staff and maybe have some high peril synergy nodes 🤷‍♂️

[hybrid solstice]

well i hate to say it but ammo management and economy is so rarely an issue in this game

otherwise it'd be a neat bonus

[potent echo]

Eh depends, I played in 4 SAP zealot lobbies before

[hybrid solstice]

Sure yeah if everyone has simultaneously elected to use very ammo hungry weapons that's one thing

but just in general

[potent echo]

Yea I never had a game where everyone has zero ammo

But I can argue the more ammo you have the more willing you will be in spending it = faster clears 🤷‍♂️

[hybrid solstice]

Well eh there are a good amount of weapons that are ammo efficient to the point where you can just unload regularly and you'll still have ammo to spare

[potent echo]

I don't think I ever played a game where lack of ammo actively lead to losing condition so I am not really willing to argue that voidstrike not using ammo makes it a S-tier weapon

Yea currently ammo management is mostly fine as most pubs are willing to share

[hybrid solstice]

scrier's gaze also lasts longer if you rack up kills while it's up, so even ammo withstanding, rather than having to vent, it'd be optimal to just spend ammo to have better uptime

[potent echo]

True, but now that you mention it, I haven't thought about actively venting while scrier is active

I wonder if you could just pre-scrier a horde/patrol and just actively vent while farming damage stacks

Sounds really funky

Wait you can do that with force sword then switch to gun

[hybrid solstice]

not only venting but charging up shots as well since void blowing up heads demands it

[viral solstice]

10 seconds is a very very short time

and what you might ask yourself is

if you're venting in order to reduce active peril just to get 10 seconds of buff

how sure are you that you will get value from those 10 secondss

when u could be actually killing things right now instead of quelling

[hybrid solstice]

yeah it's definitely the gun psyker ability but i'm still interested to see if anyone comes up with cool ways to leverage the staves

[potent echo]

Do it at the start of the horde before they show up perhaps, this is pure madman conjecture territory

[viral solstice]

purg is fine because of how it works

but scrier's is 2 abilities in one - a steroid (gain damage and crit chance) which you want to DO AS MUCH DAMAGE AS POSSIBLE to make use of

and a peril management mingame that gives you a buff - which demands you quell (not do as much damage as possible) to maximise

they conflict and the buff is, broadly, pretty garbage

[potent echo]

The crit chance doesn't carry on to the 10second afterbuff?

[viral solstice]

because how much would you pay Right now to improve your buff by 2%? 5? every second spent in scrier's?

[hybrid solstice]

purge could work to a degree but it does lack range

[viral solstice]

we will see how people react to it but i think the other thing you might be surprised by

is just how used to going over peril and just venting to not die

now imagine a buff had a mounting peril cost. the amount of peril you gain accelerates. those normal peril percentages your brain thinks its safe to charge? woopsie...

and then you're staring at your hands going "damn sure wish i had a way to not sudoku"

[potent echo]

In my mind purg and scrier wouldn't work because you build up so much peril, but also near 50% crit chance (with nexus) and the damage buff after increasing burn dps sounds really good

[hybrid solstice]

oh actually yeah, scrier's builds peril while its even active. It will actually be over faster if you use a staff with it

[viral solstice]

it builds accelerating peril

at first slow...

[potent echo]

Also will scrier + staff channeling force explosion at 100%? Questions questions

[hybrid solstice]

Basically it's up for as long as you have peril under 100%

[plucky perch]

and stays slow and slows down further per kill

[viral solstice]

no

it accelerates over time

no matter what

[hybrid solstice]

Which staves would accelerate even more

[plucky perch]

they stated as much killing reduces peril gain rate

[viral solstice]

[hybrid solstice]

killing slows it down but it will eventually hit 100% no matter what, is what he is saying i think

[plucky perch]

it MIGHT speed up but not near as massiuvely if your gettin kills

ahhh gotcha

[viral solstice]

fk idk how much i can give away

but anyway

[potent echo]

I need hands on game now

[hybrid solstice]

so a gun, which does not make that even faster, would be ideal

[viral solstice]

point is scriers is legit a very confused ability and it hink people will be surprised by what it ends up doing

[plucky perch]

though i suspect scriers gaze is ment for gunkers, i doubt they would give psyker a new ability thats useless with staffs

[spice veldt]

shame

[cyan notch]

just use transfer peril void

ez

[potent echo]

I was already set on shieldburn but sudokuburn it is

[spice veldt]

guess im sticking with our push ult

[hybrid solstice]

why not, people have wanted a dedicated gun psyker playstyle for a while

[viral solstice]

it's not useless but there are some not good interactions

one of my large beefs is that there are very few deterministic triggered quells

[true lake]

you wouldn't want scrier speeding up anyway, that literally makes scrier worse

[viral solstice]

and the peril management side of it is a plate spinning minigame with a 10s buff as a reward which would be 80% as strong if you ignored it and just went apeshit like it was a normal steroid

[potent echo]

So there are opportunistic triggered quells

[plucky perch]

lets wait till it launches before judging. and yeah outside of quell peril on weak spot hit its all rng based peril quelling

[viral solstice]

[true lake]

scrier is basically berserk mode, idk how else to describe it

stay in mode as long as you can, get more boost

[hybrid solstice]

Scrier seems very close ro veteran's combat stance

[viral solstice]

that's the intention, except the downside is instantly dying

if u fuck it up

so what kind of behaviour does that encourage

[true lake]

it gets to 100% no matter what you do but doesn't force explosion

[hybrid solstice]

the only way you'd instantly die is if you used more peril immediately after it ends

[true lake]

it stays active until you hit 100% then stops but doesn't explode you

[viral solstice]

[hybrid solstice]

You can be at 100% peril and not explode

like just in general

[viral solstice]

sure, if you use nothing that generates any peril you will be fine

[cyan notch]

guns

[true lake]

why would they make a ability that locks you into constantly killing tons the entire game or die lol

[hybrid solstice]

right thatd be weird lol

[viral solstice]

lads I've played with it I'm not telling u it instantly kills u, im telling u why the skill encourages very low risk play

[cyan notch]

i dont believe you

ive also played it

its good for guns and melee

[viral solstice]

because u no longer have an out and an accelerating peril gain rate causes real issues in using things like staves

[true lake]

its definitely less risky to have a gun with it yeah, but is it really that hard to just quickly press R real quick or something

[viral solstice]

anyway broadly gun stuff is fun with assail

so it works

[hybrid solstice]

Using a staff could kill you if you are still building peril by firing it off when the skill ends, i imagine

[true lake]

then don't be dumb and immediately fire a staff after it

[hybrid solstice]

i dont actually know how safeguarded you are from building .1% peril the split second scrier's ends

[true lake]

no idea, got to wait to test that

[viral solstice]

yes, or because most people use peril thresholds to determine when its safe to do x... and what those peril thresholds are change depending on stage in scriers that ur in. if u have enhanced psionics sometimes things have free procs. small misjudgements will kill you and so you simply dont take the chance which is not very thematic

[fluid knot]

You just wait till im quell cancelling Void with it 😄

[viral solstice]

will you be though

will you

[fluid knot]

Explodes brains across room

[echo cosmos]

This is where you combine it with things such as peril self buffs, since those are likely returning

[fluid knot]

Idk, if it works, i dont see why not

[true lake]

I like scrier personally because it heavily plays into how I like playing psyker, high risk high reward

I don't like playing it too safe

[echo cosmos]

High peril self buffs were popular enough that I would bet on their return

[hybrid solstice]

i dont think there is any risk as long as you're not spraying purgatus while it's active and not paying attention

[viral solstice]

you will find out the problem with the marginal return being zero

[fluid knot]

To be fair, Peril Transfer has a lot of potential with Scriers

[echo cosmos]

Also use guns with it

[true lake]

sure I could choose enhanced psionics and just get a safe and easy buff, but that's boring

[echo cosmos]

Scriers is definitely a gunker build

[viral solstice]

? EP is a keystone

u can run scriers EP

[true lake]

my bad lol

either way idk man, might run staff anyway, will have to see what all the specific talents are

other than the ones they said

[viral solstice]

i think a lot of people will be running staff

[hybrid solstice]

can you mix and match the blitz and combat ability or do they come in pairs

[spice veldt]

seems risky

[viral solstice]

[true lake]

you can mix and match

[echo cosmos]

1st

[spice veldt]

at least with purg getting capped while casting won't do anything

[hybrid solstice]

Nice

[viral solstice]

you can take any 3 except if you look at the tree

you will note that you can't have venting shriek and assail

because that would require you to go backwards up the tree

[spice veldt]

OH SHIT

[viral solstice]

[true lake]

physics

[spice veldt]

fuck

[viral solstice]

you will also notice warp charges are longer than the other 2 trees

surely they will be worth the investment

surely

[spice veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/749075697729011822.webp?size=80&quality=lossless

[hybrid solstice]

they're only worth the investment now so you can blow them on AB lel

[viral solstice]

anyway i must hold off on further trolling until the patch notes or i'll be arrested by da coppas

but assail is cool

[cyan notch]

doubt

[fluid knot]

ETA, 5 days

[true lake]

curious to see how effective the shield ability is too

how many projectiles does it actually block and the such

[viral solstice]

sorry its just a fact, they go fweeeeeeeep and kil

[cyan notch]

sounds lame

[hybrid solstice]

to be honest having a dome shield seems like it could be a godsend unless it is dreadfully tiny

[viral solstice]

u sound lame

destroyed

[fluid knot]

Give shards

[echo cosmos]

I don't know why you wouldn't be able to go back on the tree

[true lake]

it's likely similar to the one the heretic boss has

[viral solstice]

psychic sharts

[fluid knot]

Yes, let me shart at everything

[regal jasper]

Hi crab

[fluid knot]

And preferably set it on fire too

[cyan notch]

well we dont know how it works yet

[viral solstice]

true, true..

[hybrid solstice]

Assail seems cool but i hope it can measure up to Super Brainburst™ and spraying a horde with lightning

[true lake]

no idea how much of an area the dome will actually cover but I can probably assume it won't be as effective in dome form, might be less duration or something

[spice veldt]

the playtesters remarked that you can't

[echo cosmos]

Ah

[cyan notch]

dont believe them

until you play it for yourself

they are unreliable

[hybrid solstice]

you can go up the tree
source is that it was revealed to me in a dream

[true lake]

play testers are only really there to test how everything works in gameplay and the such, not for information lol

[echo cosmos]

You can take both, but not with the yellow node

[true lake]

ain't never trust a playtester

[fluid knot]

You cant trust them now

Because the patch isnt out an they're under NDA

After the patch drops, you can

[fluid knot]

Because they have more first hand experience than any of us currently

[viral solstice]

o ye thats what i meant, fuckin names, but yeah the pathing means that u are locked out of certain combinations of auras, skills etc

[true lake]

given what fs been saying, we will likely be allowed to choose just about whatever we want to some slight extent

[spice veldt]

no psyk aura if you take assail 🥲

[viral solstice]

and some of the little nodes are more important than the auras

[true lake]

likely to avoid super overpowered combinations they noticed in internal testing

[viral solstice]

surely

[cyan notch]

who knows what fatshark thinks

[true lake]

as long as they don't fudge this up I'm happy

but they fudge up everything so

[viral solstice]

there's lots of cool stuff there

shards are probably the single coolest ability in the game by quite a long way

[fluid knot]

Yeah fuckin doubt, theyve already mentioned they want to give us as much freedom as possible, hence why enemy HP values and spawns are also changing

[plucky flax]

What's the shards?

[viral solstice]

assail

[fluid knot]

Likely to compensate for the higher power level

[true lake]

basically magic missiles

[spice veldt]

the sus thing is that I need to take mind in motion if I want to get from Assail to Shriek

[true lake]

mind in motion lol

[plucky flax]

Nah its bad. Bb for life

Vanilla psyker man.

[viral solstice]

broni borst

[true lake]

well it's either bb, funny shards, or star wars lightning

[spice veldt]

and that feat with guns in the icon 🤔

[viral solstice]

that ones pretty JUICED

[spice veldt]

another interesting thing is that we'll get locks in some areas

no ascendant blaze + whatever the other is

[true lake]

mutually exclusive, likely counteract each other in a way

[spice veldt]

yeah maybe the left one is the new iteration of Quicken

[true lake]

like infinity and mending in minecraft

[spice veldt]

and i assume that the new version of AB will have the downsides of a higher cooldown in exchange

[cyan notch]

nah

[fluid knot]

Looking at the symbol there i'd wager the bigger node already has some quicken functionality

Arrows pointing down likely being related to cooldown

[cyan notch]

they probably have different functionalities so its not just a play connect all the dots simulator

[spice veldt]

it's our current ult and they didn't remark on it having any cooldown-related stuff in the post, so it doesn't seem to

[fluid knot]

Well KB has to be on there somewhere, unless thats been moved somewhere else

[viral solstice]

well KB is a brainburst thing

[true lake]

yeah wouldn't want to just choose whatever perks and get stuck with some weird build that don't work at all due to conflicting buffs

[viral solstice]

you don't channel or cast assail right

[spice veldt]

KB was morphed into the empowered psionics keystone

[cyan notch]

i dont think thats it

[fluid knot]

Hmm...

[cyan notch]

seems like a very neutered version

[fluid knot]

That would appear to be better on paper..

[true lake]

it's the same thing though?

[spice veldt]

different

the condition for its activation is different

[true lake]

cast 50% faster, uses 50% less peril

[spice veldt]

and the current version is -50% peril cost and -25% cast time

[viral solstice]

theres 2 upgrades coming off brainburst

[true lake]

I mean yeah it's triggered differently

[viral solstice]

who knows what those are... mysterious....

[spice veldt]

kinetic flayer and something else

[fluid knot]

See.. with that one in particular i can see it working really fuckin well with burny builds

[true lake]

only if said burny build uses blitz very often

[fluid knot]

7.5% is big enough that when everything is on fire from either WnR or Purge/Blazing etc an starts dropping dead you'll get a lot of boosted BBs

Idk, play Blazing Void an you need blitz functions because it dont kill specials

[spice veldt]

14 kills for a guaranteed empowered

[fluid knot]

Thats pretty fuckin ez

[true lake]

not how math would work out lol

[spice veldt]

ah right it's not additive

[true lake]

but wouldn't take long for a purgatus to wipe a horde just about and easily proc it anyway

[viral solstice]

theres upgrades to that node

[spice veldt]

expected value of 14 kills

[viral solstice]

you might wonder what those upgrades do

[fluid knot]

14 in a horde situation is nothing, even if there are a few extra needed on occasion, there will also be less needed on occasion, when a horde is on fire, thats very, very acheivable for good use

Even without what the other nodes do being brought into the equation

[spice veldt]

all of them are on-kill keystones hmmm

[true lake]

just only a useful thing if you are spamming your blitz

[fluid knot]

A fast burst, can also potentially equal more fire being pushed out, which generates more kills and so the loop continues

Not a rare occasion i wipe hordes with BB, WnR and Wildfire already

[true lake]

would be a lot of very quick switching if it's generally every 14 kills, give or take however many

[fluid knot]

Just burst the specials in the mixed horde an all the trash burns to death around them, ezpz

[true lake]

meanwhile me aiming at hordes and it always choosing to auto aim the groaners

[fluid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[true lake]

I know you can pre charge with RMB but it's annoying to take time to aim the bb

[spice veldt]

and lack of reactivity

2 seconds for the LMB channel and 3 seconds for the RMB channel

[regal jasper]

I am one in a krillion

[fluid knot]

Brining the reticule down on specials/elites is a much more guaranteed way of grabbing them first time than just pointing straight at them if it helps 🙂

[true lake]

3 seconds or so of not doing anything to the horde while aiming at a special or elite

eh idk I want to at least try the other blitz abilities for a bit

[fluid knot]

Nah, if you're doing that you always take KB

Its mandatory for WnR based build

[true lake]

maybe the surge blitz works well with the purgatus for super horde clear

just switch between burn then empowered stagger

[fluid knot]

It'll be interesting to see if it shares the Surge properties of only doing reasonable damage to flak

[true lake]

if it does then they need to make surge staff actually worth using

having a blitz that is just a staff but without most of the downsides

[fluid knot]

Well hopefully it doesnt because an Ult on a timer should always be more powerful in one way or another than something you have access to all the time yeah

Though it is mentioned it chains, and something about making it chain faster? So i wonder what the dynamic is there

[spice veldt]

blitz, not ult

[fluid knot]

Ohh ok my bad

[spice veldt]

my guess is deterministic targeting? at least for the initial enemy you aim at

[true lake]

document doesn't mention any cool down but you do have to charge it before channeling

so if you want good horde control it needs to be charged up

[fluid knot]

Kinda wondering if it needs to reach a threshold on one enemy before it chains to another, like making them into grotty, maggot riddled capacitors 😄

[true lake]

if you don't charge it much at all then use it on a horde it would probably fizzle out quickly and absolute melt some dudes

my assumption is less charge does more direct damage probably against one dude, with more charge doing less direct damage but more stun and bigger crowds

but that's just my assumption, would make it a fun ability though

[echo cosmos]

Empowered Assail becomes free to use and stronger, huh

Magic missile go fwush

[true lake]

funny brain missile

[cinder moon]

stylin

[echo cosmos]

They looked at Psyker and went "but what if brain missile 2: missile harder"

If it doesn't generate peril, it is probably the best to use with Scriers

[manic halo]

Is it not gonna function like the Kerillian waystalker ult

I hope it has a crunch sound effect

[true lake]

well it uses a sort of ammo system, so it might be peril free

[echo cosmos]

No the unempowered uses both

[true lake]

but not sure

[echo cosmos]

You can tell because the empowered removes the cost of both peril and charges

[true lake]

empowered takes a bit to build to sometimes and they never guaranteed how long the "next blitz is empowered" thing lasts

is it endless until you use or is it a limited time stack?

[manic halo]

I didn’t understand the empowered keystone at all

[echo cosmos]

Isn't Empowered a keystone? Just a buff

[manic halo]

Is that just a flat, random percent change it’s gonna be empowered

Oh I’m not too sure about the terms

Sorry

[true lake]

a buff but you have a 7.5% chance per kill

[manic halo]

Pls do not brain bust me siblings

[true lake]

so every kill you specifically get has a 7.5% chance to do the empowered effect

[echo cosmos]

With a soulblaze build, those are some good chances

[true lake]

but we don't know if it's just endless until you decide to finally use a blitz or not

[echo cosmos]

Still excited to use mind missiles

[true lake]

or if it stacks empowered shots or anything

like amount of empowered effects

could be good, not sure

[manic halo]

What does empowered even mean?

[echo cosmos]

Just spam lock-on balls (until you run out of charges)

[true lake]

your blitz ability becomes better basically

bb gets the kb effect (modified), star wars lightning gets more spread and damage, magic missiles get no peril use more damage and consumes no charges

magic missiles get kind of shafted in terms of how empowered they are tbh, but the no peril use might be great with some builds

[manic halo]

That seems dope ag

[true lake]

only issue is they go from dealing 100 damage to 150 damage

but not sure how many missiles are fired per use and they are confirmed single target

or at the very least not AoE and horde control

[fluid knot]

Im counting on WnR still being there in some form an being able to be be procc'd via shards 😄

If so, best of both worlds, all the burn an all the single target

[plucky flax]

Blazing spirit 4 on trauma.

[echo cosmos]

FS stated that they are specifically crowd control in function, so I am betting that they hit multiple targets

[true lake]

according to article they hit generally where you aim your cursor at

so you could theoretically aim it away in the middle of firing

but again no idea how many missiles are fired per shot

[echo cosmos]

Nope, they are stated to be lock on

Based on what you are pointing at, similar to Kerrilians, I believe

[cinder moon]

unlimited power, though

[echo cosmos]

They can't miss, if I am reading this correctly

Quicken is now a keystone btw

Basically from what I understand, the best use for Assail is sniping squishy elites and specialists

While Rupture deals with the less squishy elites and specialists

[mossy canopy]

A question: If I run 3 stam trinkets with 12% Block eff and 12% stam regen each and Dueling sword with +2 stam and 20% block eff, do you think I'd be able to carry my boy for Maleus Monstrum (the brain burst one)?

[cyan notch]

yes

[potent echo]

Maybe it goes through several targets?

[whole oxide]

given that it has such low damage, it surely has to hit multiple targets or hit multiple times

[rocky cedar]

I'm pretty sure it's basically a true flight projectile and likely has some cleave

I'm picturing something like WS Ult from VT2 in how it operates

[shy prairie]

oooo

yeah but where's my slayer ult

hell my zealot ult

[rocky cedar]

What do you think fury is?

[shy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[viscid matrix]

should i keep it as is, or swap out the 5% crit chance for carapace or maniac?

[hybrid solstice]

You dont need to do all that, just be an ogryn and block with the slab shield

[mossy canopy]

Well yes I could if I had an ogryn, but I don't have any interest in making one and leveling it. I play psyker exclusively

[hybrid solstice]

ah okay

[hybrid solstice]

Well then i would recommend just equipping kinetic deflection and your most block efficient weapon, perhaps a force sword with Deflection or something

[spice veldt]

mkv duelling sword has a block cost of 0.33 (with 80% defense)

force swords have a block cost of 1

[hybrid solstice]

oh okay

[spice veldt]

and the block cost reduction from Deflector only applies to ranged attacks

[hybrid solstice]

ah

Then kinetic deflection, a stam trinket or two and a mkv

would probably be good

[mossy canopy]

I'm planning on taking these and only triggering the daemonhost once i've got 6 charges and quelled all peril

I figure if it's possible at all to do as a psyker this'd be the setup that does it

[spice veldt]

yeah you can comfortably tank daemonhosts even with just your stamina with full block eff

[plucky flax]

Hab dreyko with bots meme. Got the script and there were 2 chaos spawns slowing me down.

[wide summit]

i usually use the Illisi but i haven't been able to get a better one yet, is the Deimos worth using?

if so with what sort of build

[mossy canopy]

I recently made the swap for my purg build, most of my CC needs were already met I just use it to silence the muties

But generally demios is good in any build where you already have a way to deal with horde clear enough

[wide summit]

i use the Surge staff so i mostly play support

my matches are either pushovers or nail pulling depending on team with it

[mossy canopy]

Do you find yourself often getting bullied by larger enemies or is it usually hordes you're worried about? Demios is the better elite killer while Ilisi is far better horde clear

[magic edge]

Do Maelstrom missions with lower health ogryns, chaos spawn, beats of nurgle etc count toward Malleus Monstronum?

[wide summit]

my issue is shooters mainly, the big enemies i chunk down with BB

that is if my team isn't pulling their weight

the hordes are easy enough with Illisi if my team isn't handling it properly

which happens

[mossy canopy]

That tends to be the big struggle with surge, only good if your team is actually good. I'd say give the demios a shot and if you don't like it you can always go back

[wide summit]

what perk is good anyways? Maniac damage?

Crit chance?

[mossy canopy]

I'm not too well versed on the minmax for them but I'd say the +25% to flack or carapace would probably be your best value on a demios?

[viscid matrix]

yes, but also assasination targets also count

[plucky flax]

Illisi pairs much better with surge staff.

[wide summit]

testing it in maelstrom now

doing really well with a good team

dealing mainly with maulers and muties

[near wyvern]

@mossy canopy this was done without inner tranquility, you can actually have it easier now that weapons yield more stamina

https://youtu.be/l_ol8sMQQDc?si=nU_8AA5aWmW1Kba8

[digital narwhal]

Kinetic Deflection is so fucking strong

[wide summit]

btw editing pings doesn't work

they won't get pinged

what talent in the last row is worthwhile

Kinetic barrage looks good

Quicken too for that matter

[digital narwhal]

Kinetic Barrage is BiS for most builds iirc

[gilded ember]

Melk threw that at me and i'm not quite sure if its worth it or not

[whole oxide]

there are some masochists here who enjoy self-harm who will tell you its amazing, but, it isn't

[digital narwhal]

Trauma Staff Solos

[whole oxide]

although as Voidstrike staves go, that's about as good as it gets

[near wyvern]

Daumg, sorry for the ping

[near wyvern]

All three are worth it, depends on your build and what you are going for. In short:

• quicken is good for ult spam (surge) or making sure you stay at 6 stacks for some niche gunker builds that need it
• AB when paired with a full Battery deletes all non-elites and non-soecials from screen and deals like 1/2 mauler HP as well for a good nuke
• kinetic barrage is good for dealing with specials, crushers, bulwakrs and monstrosities

[near wyvern]

It would be if that blast radius and warp resist were swapped

[whole oxide]

even then, a void is a void

fingers crossed for next patch doing something for it

[gilded ember]

what should i use in tier 2, warp unleashed or inner tranquillity

playing purgatus staff only

[whole oxide]

depends on your build, warp unleashed is the usual choice, but inner can be better for some things, particularly flurry-trauma

[digital narwhal]

I do hope October 4th brings some choice buffs to our Staves

[digital narwhal]

I'd use Warp Absorption or Quietude for your T1 option

Essence Harvest can be finnicky since it relies on Warp Charges, which are usually received from RNG if you're not Brain Bursting actively

Plus, Quietude works from any Quelling, even from Psykinetic's Wrath, Battle Meditation, Passive Quell, or Manual Quell.

Warp Absorption will also give you Toughness for enemies that die to your Soulblaze from AB

[gilded ember]

Warp ab states "killing an enemy grants me 15% toughness" does that mean any type of enemy?

[digital narwhal]

Warp Absorption gives you 15% Toughness when killing any enemy with a Warp Attack

So if you kill 5 enemies with a Warp Attack, you have 75% Toughness back

[gilded ember]

tbf i never used that skill

[digital narwhal]

Quietude usually has people singing it's praises.

It's just a good Skill for manually generating Toughness.

[gilded ember]

gotta try it out at some point

[digital narwhal]

I'd recommend either of the other options over Essence Harvest, unless you're running Gun Psyker.

Since it's harder to use the others on Gun Psyker.

But-

if you bring an Illisi, then Warp Absorption is still probably the way to go there.

God, I hope we get to use Quietude WITH Warp Absorption on Oct 4th

[gilded ember]

that would be a bit stong no?

[digital narwhal]

I mean-

We've seen multiple Skills at the top which we can build into of them

and since the first Skills we often gain on Classes are Toughness based...

it'd be a fair assumption that we might be able to build into multiple Toughness generating Skills.

[wide summit]

tbh currently my biggest issue is the poxburster and the scab trappers currently it seems

playing Damnation Maelstrom

[digital narwhal]

Hmmm...

Should I try my luck?

Or

[gilded ember]

true i haven't considered that

[digital narwhal]

Stick with what I've got?

[gilded ember]

reminds me of my new staff

[digital narwhal]

I got Run N' Gun and +Stamina

oof

bricked

[gilded ember]

but i don't have any T4 blessings

[digital narwhal]

Decent Purgatus

I'd swap Infested to Flak personally

[gilded ember]

yeah either that or 2 T4 blessings

[magic edge]

anyone able to help me get the malleus monstronum penance?

[plucky flax]

It's 75% burn anyway.

Need at least 76.

[spice oar]

Yk It mentions that the smite blitz gives us the ability to push them around at will

[sick rivet]

Hey guys can someone help me with the penance "Malleus Monstronum"?
I know that I would need a team who collaborates and let me do the 90% damage and kill for a monstrosity on heresy or above.
Probably helping me with an Shield Ogryn it is the easiest, but I don't know where I could "hire" such nice people who could help me in this in a private match.

[sick rivet]

Looking for the same thing, maybe we can group up, and hire an Ogryn with a shield and then go to a map where there are multiple monstrosities.

[wide summit]

why is it private game only

im pretty sure i've done that on a weakened monster more than once

[sick rivet]

The penance states in bold yellow:
Private Game: Penance can only be completed in a private game

[wide summit]

i get that

i just never looked at penances

what even is the point of them other than the cosmetics

[spice veldt]

while I was ok with people doing it in pubs, I was generally annoyed with encountering people attempting that penance every-so-often in my matches

main mistake is the fact that it's tied to cosmetics, not the fact that it's locked to private games
Private games only isn't an ideal solution, but it's whatever

[golden frigate]

do you guys still need help for that penance? @sick rivet @magic edge

[sick rivet]

from my side yes!

[golden frigate]

do you have DMs blocked?

[magic edge]

thanks for the offer majem, got to go to bed now unfortunately ill try again tomorrow

[reef island]

is this salvageable from melk?

I dont have many good force swords/weapons for psyker just yet

[golden frigate]

I wouldn't buy it

[cyan notch]

dont buy it

[dawn wolf]

That attack speed/finesse would hurt.

[golden frigate]

both because of it being an obscurus, and because it's really not that good

[reef island]

speaking of which force sword is the one to look out for?

[cyan notch]

deimos or illisi

[golden frigate]

illisi for crowd clearing, deimos for oneshotting everything

[reef island]

ty for the info all!

[steep oriole]

What's the best stat for trauma force staffs? Surge isn't cutting it for me anymore

[plucky flax]

Best as in blessings? Perks? Or modifiers wise?

[steep oriole]

Sorry I meant the stats like charge radius / damage rtc

Although I'm not sure how it works tbqh

[golden frigate]

charge speed, damage and blast radius are all kind of important

warp resistance is nice to have since its alt fire has a pretty high cost per cast, and it's the main thing you want to use

quelling is a nonissue nowadays so warp res'd be the one true dump stat

[plucky flax]

Nein quell is more important than warp resist to constantly doing 80%+ full charge blast.

If your quell is higher than about 74% you can quell for 2 ticks from 100% peril to do another full charge.

Other wise it's 3 ticks.

[golden frigate]

oh I'm mistaken then mb

[whole oxide]

it depends if you're playing flurry or blazing

[steep oriole]

Ty, what's the best way to like farm weapon stats

I'm new to the endgame so

[whole oxide]

repeatedly quelling is really bad for flurry, it breaks your chain

[plucky flax]

Pray to RNGesus

[golden frigate]

buy staves from brunt's

and pray yeah

[steep oriole]

What I've been doing is just buying a million purge staffs until I get a good one

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah I only play blaze trauma.

[steep oriole]

Okay yeah ._.

[plucky flax]

The superior trauma.

[steep oriole]

I haven't even gotten any perks for it yet

[golden frigate]

yeah that's the stuff

[plucky flax]

I don't know about rending flurry meme.

[golden frigate]

rending flurry is for people with friends

[plucky flax]

I can't trust teammates only meself.

Casually being selfish in war.

[plucky flax]

With a well rolled blaze trauma you can do about 500k damage in 30 mins. That's close to veteran with bolter/autopistol level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WrRGbVgnZU

[steep oriole]

Idk it feels like all the staves have a weakness that inevitably fucks me

Every time I use purgatus I get 500 snipers

and then when I use voidsurge I get a million chaff

[steep oriole]

What perks are these

[plucky flax]

I use crit chance flak.

[viscid matrix]

ive yet to get a good trauma, but i also dont like dropping circles 😄

[queen fog]

But do u enjoy shooting spheres

[steep oriole]

Sorry I meant like what blessings*

Need to get my terms righ

[viscid matrix]

ive mainly been on either Surge or Purga, depending on who im playing with

[queen fog]

I’m not smart enough to realize my squad in time so I just always run purga

[fast swan]

Are they adding the ‘For the Emperor!’ Button?

[plucky flax]

Just spam surge against everything.

[spice oar]

They are thinking about it from last I heard

[fluid knot]

Better have a cooldown

People spamming the mods relating to that is hella annoying

[steep oriole]

I just don't want to feel like a useless squishy bastard as a psyker

Especially in pubs where people just abandon me at the link of an eye

[vast hare]

honestly the thing I think that blaze blessing on the splodey stick is doing is handling the cleanup for you

[queen fog]

Psyker flesh is sadly very squishy

It’s bound to happen and is noticed quickly when you’ve got a group that knows how to advance

[steep oriole]

at least as purgatus I felt like I could deal with guys in close range easily

every other staff I feel like I'm dead on the spot

[plucky flax]

Trauma will absolutely kill more chaffs than purg.

[keen harbor]

This game has a input device design flaw with psyker

[echo cosmos]

Not with wildfire and Pergs high AOE

[viscid matrix]

Surge staff for the CC, then focus on elites and flankers

[plucky flax]

I run wildfire ascendant blaze trauma.

[echo cosmos]

Illisi is probably the best melee in the game rn too

[fluid knot]

Deimos is more fun tho

[echo cosmos]

Perg is much more fun though, because I am a pyromaniac

[plucky flax]

Fair. Trauma for me deal with shooters much easier and also kill crushers too.

[echo cosmos]

Oh you see for shooters I just have teammate assistance suffer

Or slowly burst them

[plucky flax]

I often get top smol shooters kill with trauma unless if there's a really good veteran player.

[echo cosmos]

Assail would really help in killing shooters

[plucky flax]

Assail is blitz?

I hope the other ults still remove peril.

Cos that's kinda clutch.

[echo cosmos]

Yes

[echo cosmos]

One removes, one builds, and one is neutral(?)

[viscid matrix]

from the looks yeh

[plucky flax]

Ouch I'm definitely not good enough for peril building ult. D:

[echo cosmos]

Seriously the mechanic of one is to buff you but you gain peril until the ult ends at 100% peril

[echo cosmos]

Its best use is gunker

[viscid matrix]

the buff lasts 10s after 100%

[echo cosmos]

If you kill enough enemies, the ult may be able to be stacked infinitelu

[plucky flax]

Hrm the gaze is good as an intiator.

[viscid matrix]

these 2 nodes also are gun related 😄

and ammo generation possibly

[plucky flax]

Linger for 10s, so you can just pop it and remove it instantly for the extra crit chance.

[viral solstice]

dual wield gun definitely

[echo cosmos]

Then there are also the Keystones, which are pretty interesting

[echo cosmos]

Empowered Psionics, which buffs your blitzes, with a 7.5% chance on kill, for example

Some very interesting mechanics

[steep oriole]

Nvm I get it now

Just had a great game with trauma

[steep oriole]

Give me dual bolters or give me death

[echo cosmos]

I still think that Trauma should have a shotgun instead of a single projectile, more like Sienna's staff that makes a super wide explosion when charged

[viral solstice]

what if u get dual.. LING SWORD BUFFS?

incredibile...

[vast hare]

Yeh the "disrupt destiny" side of the tree appears to be a gunslinger psychic type deal, which is cool cuz psykers needed a reason to use the guns

[steep oriole]

Okay what the fuck does rending shockwave do

The game tooltip is still bugged for me

[viscid matrix]

based on the image at the top, more than likely

[vast hare]

it applies rending on hit

which is an armor debuff but it only works for you

IE anything with it kills crushers

[echo cosmos]

It would be so nice if FS explained all of these varied status conditions

[vast hare]

a compendium would be great yeah

[echo cosmos]

Or a tooltip

[steep oriole]

Also sorry for the spam Qs but what's a good pairing of blessings on the Illisi

I've got unstable power 2 and exorcist 2 rn

Considering dropping one for deflector

[echo cosmos]

Deflector is okay, and idk the Illisi blessings

[viscid matrix]

same as other force swords i think

[steep oriole]

Idk why my fucking Illisi has 71% warp resistance

[steep oriole]

Which is why I was thinking of taking deflector + unstable

Also what do you guys do with a beast of nurgle

Just stand there and brain burst?

[queen fog]

depends if theres a support horde with the beast, if not i hit rationed BB's

tryna time it to the debuff timing to keep it cycled

[spice oar]

oh comeon the icons are just teasing us now

brace of lasguns i need my witch hunter back

[echo cosmos]

Yea except not standing still

[digital narwhal]

Mobility is a bit low, but-

decent?

[spice oar]

thats great yeah

[hollow flame]

gambling psyker is getting removed sad day

[digital narwhal]

Gambling Psyker?

[teal needle]

Does lacerate stack on shoves? I remember something like that going on

[queen fog]

Kinetic flayer, y’know the one where any source of damage has a chance to brain burst on hit?

[teal needle]

I haven't seen anyone say kinetic flayer is gone for good. It's probably under the warp charges keystone

[digital narwhal]

Who says we're losing it?

It might be one of the nodes attached to Brain Rupture

[queen fog]

Idk I just wanted to clarify what was gambling psyker for u

[digital narwhal]

Fair

[viscid matrix]

same icon different colours

[hollow flame]

Oh we might keep it after all

[viscid matrix]

the brain burst one

[teal needle]

The real question is do we still get a flat damage bonus w warp charges

[viscid matrix]

im hoping one of these is damage and another is defence per charge

[teal needle]

If so gunkers probably gonna want to try to swing into that tree after getting scrier

[queen fog]

lol i love that the only thing they did visually for it was change its color and flip the fist

subtle but tells u what u need to know tree wise

[viscid matrix]

if we dont want smite or the magic missiles sure

[queen fog]

and a thing to keep in mind is we're gonna have 30 points to use

so builds might be more flexible than we think

[hollow flame]

Look at all the points in the psyker image used at the to0

[viscid matrix]

it used 30

[echo cosmos]

Not to mention you don't have to go to the very bottom of the tree

[viscid matrix]

they went for that small node here, instead of taking a larger blue node anywhere else, wonder what it is

[echo cosmos]

If you see a bonus elsewhere that you like, you are free to take it

[echo cosmos]

Not to mention that the buffs to Blitzes are not mutually exclusive

[viscid matrix]

i realy want to know what the new auras are

[viscid matrix]

looks like they might be

[echo cosmos]

Those are abilities, not blitzes

Blitzes are green

Red ones are abilities, and you can tell because shield in the middle has a bunch of the bonuses mentioned in the blog

[viscid matrix]

hmm, its not consistant across all the images either

[echo cosmos]

Shield.

To the lefy you can see the stagger and 2 shield bonuses, and to the right you can see the dome bonuses

[viscid matrix]

on veteran

[echo cosmos]

I imagine it depends on balancing

[viscid matrix]

yeh but its not consistant at all, cause ogryn dont have mutually exlusive either

[echo cosmos]

I am guessing that which are mutually exclusive are so because otherwise they would be too OP

[gaunt stone]

hey guys what are the ideal trauma staff blessings and perks? It was rending shockwave and what else?

[viscid matrix]

soulflame

[gaunt stone]

then I am guessing for perks you want crit and?

[viscid matrix]

flak

[gaunt stone]

do you also want soul flame talent?

[hasty valve]

What traits and blessings am I looking for in a Purgatus staff nowadays to survive Damnation and above?

[viscid matrix]

i have this, i dont use purga much anymore tho

[plucky flax]

Rip quell speed.

[viscid matrix]

its not too bad 😄

[plucky flax]

[viscid matrix]

dome shield looks pretty big

[digital narwhal]

Semi-Confirmed that Assail seeks heads

So assume you'll deal more than 100 damage per knife

[hasty valve]

Wait, it's been a while but on that one it looks like youve been able to pick each trait and blessing no? @viscid matrix

Thought you could only change 2 things?

[vast hare]

also the Smite-ning is purple

beautiful

[viscid matrix]

you can choose any 2

i chose 2 perks and kept the blessings as is

[digital narwhal]

https://youtu.be/9eZOL-S7KGw?si=CAwqAym25GLSYcfQ&t=75

See

Assail seeks heads

[hasty valve]

oh my bad

[digital narwhal]

Also, Smite being able to one shot a Rager? Pog?
Single target Smite actually good? Let's go?

[indigo portal]

The Smite ability headpopped at the end, willing to bet it was Kinetic Flayer.

[digital narwhal]

Nah, the hand moved

[hasty valve]

What mine looks like atm

[digital narwhal]

I bet it's just an animation played in for Smite

[hasty valve]

Will prob have to keep the sprint efficiency

[indigo portal]

Hmmmm, do you think it's an alt attack for Smite?

[viscid matrix]

reroll both perks to max perks, crit/flak/maniac

[digital narwhal]

It's probably the single target version

They mentioned you can AOE stun or single target "fuck you"

[hasty valve]

Cant, used one to get warp flurry

[indigo portal]

Similar to the beam staff in V2 where it builds damage and you can right click to do a burst or something?

Could be an addon too.

[viscid matrix]

oof

[viscid matrix]

it looks really good tho

[digital narwhal]

IT DOES