psyker-class

[potent echo]

Ew

[twin salmon]

sometimes all you have left is dancing around a mob in a tight space

[potent echo]

Also bb DPS can't compared to Deimos specials

[twin salmon]

and honestly ,with how stacked your psyker damage can get that knife would de-elite the area faster than the bb, probably

[steel flame]

We are talking about using a combat knife here. Or use your staff if you are using surge m1

[potent echo]

I think even uncanny duelling sword kills crushers faster than bb

[steel flame]

Eh whatever's. I use cerebral lacerations and wrack and ruin with KB on my builds that use the knife. Crushers and maulers are non issues

[twin salmon]

it honestly depends on what your approach is

it's nice to have variety

both ways are viable

i think non-force weapon psyker will open up dramaticaly

once brain burst isnt the only blitz ability

we'll be able to cover other roles with the blitz

letting us go, lets say, knife revolver for example

while leaving that chain lightning / warp daggers ability to generate warp charges on trash

and using buffed weapons to deal with single targets

[cyan notch]

doubt

[steel flame]

With how massive a resource peril is in psykers power I found it highly doubtful that double non force weapons will stack up. Outside one of them being the autopistol since it's just broken regardless

But hey

Never know

Maybe if we get new toughness Regen that don't require peril or warp attacks to trigger

[twin salmon]

Why

I don't think it's an impossible scenario

I'd love to go more into gunpsyker stuff without having to always rely on a force weapons to generate peril

[steel flame]

I would love to as well

[upper galleon]

they could take a lot off the CD for kinetic flayer

and it wouldn't be OP

fuck remove it entirely, decrease chance by like 5%, and don't give it a safety net

[steel flame]

Rip all slow firing gun builds using it to gain warp charges for regen

Though I would love to see the auto pistol melt things even faster with no cool down flayer

Man imagine no cooldown flayer on puragtus or surge lightning with how many fast their instances of damage roll out

[willow escarp]

it would have to have some mechanic to at least have a cool down on the same unit I’d think… you’d delete bosses with shredders and recon guns

[shadow quail]

Why does melk never have staffs lol

[upper galleon]

cause there is only 4 staffs, and a multitude of variant guns

[olive ember]

wdym safety net

[upper galleon]

it doesnt' activate i think above 80% peril

[olive ember]

97 but even then thats more of a restriction than a safety net

[steel flame]

I'm not sure how not proccing above 97% is a safety net. Flayer doesn't have any danger associated with it to be netted in the first place

[cyan notch]

yea its a free proc

that doesnt cost any peril

[upper galleon]

i didn't know how small the net was LOL

but yee, so just remove the CD and decrease the proc odds a bit

[olive ember]

yeah critical peril is 97

its why all the psyker stuff is "dont do above 97"

[teal needle]

That seems like it would just make shredder more busted

[true bridge]

I finally did it!!!

[sand cove]

hey. what's the dump stat on the purgatus?

nvm it's damage

damn i lucked out

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i was gonna say damage really

Although youll be stuck with one bad perk or blessing sadly

Actually

Unyielding is good

Nvm

[sand cove]

hmm I could swap it out

[lyric burrow]

Nah swap crit damage

Awful perk

[hollow current]

basically a perfect purg staff

[lyric burrow]

Swap it with crit chance

And youll be fine

[hollow current]

I'd suggest +flak damage but it's preference

[sand cove]

yeah i heard crits increase soul blaze damage or something

[lyric burrow]

Flak or crit chance works

[sand cove]

sounds good. appreciate it

[lyric burrow]

Barrage with flurry if you arent aware

[sand cove]

oh no absolutely

[lyric burrow]

Ok just making sure

Barrage on purge is a little useless lol

[sand cove]

haha for sure

[lyric burrow]

Although it looks like in the dev blog they actually mentioned suppression not mattering if things are just dead curious if theyll change stuff like barrage

Or if its just in reference to skills

[fluid knot]

They said they'er changing HP values so things might be about to get tougher too 😄

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i also saw that

Wondering if the game will get harder

[fluid knot]

Hope so 😄

[lyric burrow]

Unless they give us some pretty insane stuff malestrom could be insane lol

[fluid knot]

As it should be, lets be honest

[lyric burrow]

I actually think maelstrom is in a good spot rn but we will see how things play out with skills

[hollow current]

When you have +docket curios and get rescued after dying, you get your docket multiplier added again. Meaning that if you have +30% dockets from your curios and get rescued, you'll get 160% dockets at the end of a match instead of 130%.

On high payout missions this can possibly mean you can essentially farm 10-25k dockets every few minutes with a friend group if you can find missions that are easy to farm rescues at the end. I haven't tested if there's a limit to how many times the +docket multiplier stacks and only got to two rescues.

I haven't tested this either but it might also work on +experience curios.

spread the word, siblings

[languid tusk]

interesting

[steel flame]

Sounds like a very fat shark thing not to account for

[harsh urchin]

is this real

or are you trolling

to get people to die more

LOL

i actually cant tell

[languid tusk]

the map with the train is a good map to do this, you can jump to your death and respawn right next to the place that you jump off from

[steel flame]

It's a trap

[languid tusk]

brb, jumping off to my death

[analog agate]

I have had the worst luck tonight with games. Maybe people are playing cyberpunk. Bots have been better

[lyric burrow]

I got a weird team earlier too

Me and an ogryn had a score of like 140 and the other 2 were in the 60s

Wondering if some people are coming back in anticipation of patch

Which is fine

Just noticed

[analog agate]

Maybe. Usually I don’t mind trying to carry people with bad gear. But tonight I’m just not in the mood haha

[lyric burrow]

Lol fair

[hollow current]

I got this about a month ago and didn't know why.
https://i.imgur.com/GfL2Neq.jpg
Then I had another mission where the dockets didn't add up but I died once so I think that's how it worked.

[harsh urchin]

i never die so i wouldn't never found this bug

thanks for all ur hard work

[indigo portal]

Will test it out. Seems like I was gaslighting you the other day (I run +ordo dockets, totally might've experienced the bug which caused my responses). I apologize, didn't mean it.

[stuck bridge]

whatre people runnin with surge staff these days

i keep rolling run and gun and im losing my mind

[lyric burrow]

Warp flurry and warp nexus

[stuck bridge]

https://i.imgur.com/XSGBSDV.png

this is probably as good as im gonna get if it's that

need to change perks

[celest hedge]

finished my first maelstrom mission and this is what the emperor gave me

I guess I could rip off rampage 4 from it

[nocturne badge]

let's goooo

[lyric burrow]

Change infested to flak

Surge does no damage to infested and shouldnt be used on infested aside from dogs anyway

[steel flame]

Well it does loads of damage to everything if you quell cancel the m1

I say crit chance instead

[lyric burrow]

either works

even then i wouldnt say m1 on infested is worth your time when you can just melee

other than that its good

[stuck bridge]

roger

[lyric burrow]

crit chance works too

whichever you prefer

[stuck bridge]

is it pretty much still just focusing on stunning enemies

[lyric burrow]

really your using it to stun mobs and kill flak thats in cover yeah

[steel flame]

Fair enough

[lyric burrow]

usually its melee like

90% of the time

im not a surge expert but thats how it goes for me everytime

the m1 is strong

[steel flame]

Still think people should work on mastering the m1. Those 45% chance 500 damage crits are just begging you to exploit them

[lyric burrow]

yeah m1 is good on it

[steel flame]

If you press r after every cast you can span that shit really fast

Takes practice but the damage is worth it

Fantastic for quickly charging peril and swapping to unstable diemos to murder shit in hordes

[indigo portal]

I'm not good at it but here's an example of it in action for the m1.

[steel flame]

Yeah

[olive ember]

https://reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/17FH5CrkyM

[steel flame]

Most you can get is about double that

[steel flame]

fuck your shitty ass servers fatshark

fix them so i can play your game

[olive ember]

did you just get booted out of darktide again

[steel flame]

the desync was fucking terrible

and then yes i got booted

like 5 minutes into the match

[olive ember]

oof

[steel flame]

sigh

i want to play but this just makes me drop the game

[olive ember]

I actually had a decent game

but wow I didn't expect to use my brain and I'm also rusty as shit

maybe I really am just a malice gamer now

[steel flame]

lol

oh well

cyberpunk 2.0 just finished downloading

cya darktide

[regal jasper]

I should make the exact same post about voidstrike

[olive ember]

but

both of them are meme

well surge isn't meme

but it isn't the god tier weapon every redditor thinks it is

[steel flame]

you just dont believe in the m1 hard enough

[olive ember]

""It isn't uncommon for me to chain 15 heavy attacks from my lighting staff without needing to quell, and I'm yet to meet a horde that can take that, even on Damnation.""

^^ clearly we haven't been using surge staff properly

[steel flame]

clearly this man has unlocked the melee prowess of the surge staff

i must get him to tell me the secrets of the bonk special

[olive ember]

"This staff wants to be charged up all the way before casting, which isn't fantastic, but that's why we pair it with the 10% faster charge time after each salvo perk, whatever tf it's called"

holy shit the 10% faster charge time after each salvo perk

what sorcery is this

[steel flame]

i want whatever space crack this man is on

that must be some good shit

[lyric burrow]

tbf everytime i read darktide reddit when it comes to meta or how good/bad something is i die on the inside

[steel flame]

i mean shit, we are over here zapping and shooting people with it and hes over there heavy attacking people with the bonk stick and shooting salvos

[olive ember]

no hes just stupid

idk why he's giving advice when he doesn't even know the blessing names

like holy shit

it sounds nitpicky but it really just encapsulates how clueless they are

[lyric burrow]

tbf if he was giving sound advice i wouldnt care if he couldnt remember the name of warp flurry

when they say to surge the horde thats when its an issue

[olive ember]

"'I'm yet to meet a horde that can take that, even on Damnation."

[indigo portal]

I'm more concerned about the horde clear with a Surge Staff than the lack of care/knowledge to reference Warp Flurry.

[olive ember]

"This thing SLAPS. Is it the highest damage staff? Probably not, but if you think it doesn't kill well at all then you're using it wrong or you aren't hitting breakpoints."

"This staff wants to be charged up all the way before casting, which isn't fantastic, but that's why we pair it with the 10% faster charge time after each salvo perk, whatever tf it's called"

"When you spec for peril resistance you can basically keep casting forever. It isn't uncommon for me to chain 15 heavy attacks from my lighting staff without needing to quell, and I'm yet to meet a horde that can take that, even on Damnation."

"If you build your perks around this staff and commit to full charges you'll never need to put it away and you'll never stop casting, even at full peril."

"Just saying, if you're the guy who refuses to play with Surge staff users on Damnation you don't know up from down. I am the anti-specialist and anti-elite psycher. I am battlefield control and overwatch combined. Surge staff is insanely powerful, and you might want to give it another try."

every fucking sentence save like maybe one is literally meme tier

if I didn't know any better I'd assume he's fucking baiting

actually

maybe he is baiting

please

[lyric burrow]

i dont like to give people shit cause not everyone has a million hours in darktide but

when they are giving advice its warranted

like genuinely trying to give advice

[olive ember]

I mean I'm one of the biggest lovers of surge staff in this discord

[steel flame]

i heard he sleeps with a surge staff shaped body pillow

[olive ember]

but holy shit if the shit that redditor said came out of my mouth everyone would think im doing a shitty bait or trolling or memeing

[steel flame]

oh god im dying

i put a bit too much carolina reaper hotsauce on this chicken

[olive ember]

oof

try milk

[lyric burrow]

^

you probably know just dont do water

[steel flame]

i had to get this shit over the counter with an id

[hollow current]

this has to be bait

[steel flame]

this shit is litterally called- Xtreme Regret

which is pretty accurate

i like it though

about killed a friend with it when he thought he could handle it

[fading patrol]

Oh lol i just read this
Part of palpatine cosplay gang like 9 out of 10 surge user in the wild

[olive ember]

I honestly hope it is but its fucking reddit

and I don't think it is

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/16p0ikb/people_who_shit_on_surge_staff_have_no_idea_what/

[hollow current]

[upper galleon]

LMAOOO

omg he spams surge into hordes and think he is the one killing

[upper galleon]

ALSO peril resistance omg

this is either the best bait/troll in existance

or the average surge simp

[spice veldt]

i assume troll

[viral solstice]

no this is what surge players actually believe

too much void dust

[upper galleon]

yea

[viral solstice]

snorted

[upper galleon]

it might be troll

but the viewers aren't

i wish it was void dust

void staff may not be good

but it's at least respectable

[spice veldt]

i'm saving my essays for the next update so they get to live another day

[viral solstice]

spoilers for patch

everything is bad other than recon lasgun psyker. shield is bugged and lets u push ur allies off cliffs. all blitzes shoot pink lightning and activate a fog machine. sometimes, in the distance, u hear the laughter of a thousand children in perfect synchrony

[spice veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/897990245658787881.webp?size=80&quality=lossless

[upper galleon]

Once again, surge staff is the weapon to carry mediocre teams

[spice veldt]

pink lightning would be pretty cool

[upper galleon]

bad teams you can't carry with surge staff, good teams won't give a shit either way

[spice veldt]

is that a metal band reference

[olive ember]

what the fuck I can play vet again?

recon laser vet is stronk?

[viral solstice]

I don't know, in the silence you don't know, you must go on, I can't go on...

what if psyker is BIKER now

Duelling swords? dualling swords (u get two)

fuck im on a roll i need to pitch these to the fat shark

[olive ember]

In all seriousness tho if you can are recon lasguns any better or are they still a meme

[viral solstice]

most stuff got rejiggered at least a bit

[hollow current]

psykers holding their team hostage with the shield will be funny

[viral solstice]

but a lot of these things end up coming down to relative strength and preference so it is hard to say what will be a meme, other than the entire psyker class due to the bug causing their trousers to fall down

[olive ember]

Everyone loved when they could be shirtless… but pantsless? Noooo that’s considered a fucking meme

Double standards I tell ya

[viral solstice]

i think psykers probably look the most like pirates of all classes

so tahts something

[indigo portal]

The insane ramblings of Crab have held true so far. I too would like to hear the laughter of a thousand children off in the distance.

[regal jasper]

Hi tinyangrycrab

[olive ember]

someone sucking off the voidstaff as hard as darktide reddit sucks off surge would be just as memeable if not more. Thankfully they atleast recognize that the mid damage, 6 cleave, meh stagger staff isn't god tier

[cyan notch]

imagine they just remove the locks

and make it easier to get what weapons u want

[olive ember]

but

muh player retention

[indigo portal]

I pray they don't do that. Sounds cringe.

[cyan notch]

yea we’ll just go ahead and change all blessings and weapons and if u want to change something just go slot machine another one

[indigo portal]

I feel like removing the locks would make it even more annoying to fix crafting.

[twin salmon]

how would it make it more annoying it's the number 1 issue

[indigo portal]

Here's my opinion on the matter: #general-chat message. Removing locks imo would make it way harder to fix it. Better to just dedicate resources into overhauling/reworking it so it doesn't suck.

[upper galleon]

it's really not

lack of content is and meaningful options

removing locks would be even worse than the 80% refund materials bug we have rn

[twin salmon]

bro i spent 700 hours trying to find one blessing

[upper galleon]

fshark would have to nerf material gains and/or cost

and locks have nothing to do with that?

[twin salmon]

i think there is enough rng layers in getting decenly rolled blessings to your library

[upper galleon]

that is blessing/crafting RNG

[twin salmon]

and that is not connected?

weapons can get bricked with no way to fix them because of the lock

there is nothing fun about buying 600 weapons trying to roll a decent one

i'd take vastly increased material costs over locks any day

'd give me a reason to farm them

[upper galleon]

i mean, the system is better

[twin salmon]

better doesn't mean it's the best it can be

[upper galleon]

curios are easy asf to make, and weapons get bricked way less often

[twin salmon]

darktide's strengths are in its fantastic core gameplay

not it's shity gatcha esque loot game

NOBODY plays this game for the longhaul and enjoys the loot game

it's even worse than v2

[upper galleon]

fantastic core gameplay can't carry a game in 2023 sadly

[twin salmon]

it does for me

[upper galleon]

LMAO no, at launch up until the lock change, it was worse than vt2

but vt2 was ass

at least darktide pretends to have meaningful options

[plucky flax]

OP surge staff

[upper galleon]

nice

[indigo portal]

The RNG crafting is an issue, but the solution absolutely doesn't include keeping the system the same and removing locks.

It needs to be reworked into an effort system, all at once imo. Removing the locks rn would create issues. After it gets reworked into a better system we can get freedom back since it'll actually be supported.

[plucky flax]

378

[upper galleon]

I'd rather them keep locks and say, normalize modifier stats

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/so-close-gif-20281780

[twin salmon]

frankly just give me reds back that can be grinded for, that can be rerolled to your heats content

would give those carrot chasers something to do

[upper galleon]

reds sound boring asf ngl i'd rather them just make normal weapons better

[twin salmon]

how are they boring

they were the ultimate goal in v2, decking out all my characters with red was fun and the reward was i could create any build i wanted, maxed out, on demand

and that shit still took time

i've got 1400 hours in v2 and still don't have all the reds i could want

dare i say that system was way more engaging than fishing for brunt rolls

because i actually had to, you know, play the game

not the store

[plucky flax]

100% charge rate trauma staff

[twin salmon]

quite frankly

with the enemy rebalance coming in on the 4th

it would be the perfect time to introduce reds as the ultimate items

[regal jasper]

We should get access to 100%

I see no problems with it

[dull osprey]

what is the highest grey base score weapon u can get?

[regal jasper]

Somewhere in the 250s?

I dont really know

[twin salmon]

380

i have a few 379

[regal jasper]

Damn

[twin salmon]

250's is like, lvl 1 weapons when orange

[plucky flax]

Look my 378 staff above.

It's 2 short of perfection.

Imma scrap it now.

[twin salmon]

i dont like surge

😦

[plucky flax]

Only staff I don't use is voidstrike.

[regal jasper]

):

Only staff i use is voidstrike

[plucky flax]

[regal jasper]

Im this servers only voidstrike user

[twin salmon]

honestly

voidstrike would be better if it worked like the fireball staff in v2

as in

applied soulblaze on max charge for example

[blazing echo]

ok so this is my void staff, what would you voidstrikers recommend here?

[regal jasper]

This is mine

Transfer peril works really well cuz a full charge in a hoard just deletes all peril

[cyan notch]

locks serve no purpose other than to inflate playtime on the shittiest part of the game (looter shooter rng grinding) instead of letting players experiment with more freedom and actually playing the game with different loadouts and builds

[blazing echo]

So more than likely it's me who needs to learn how to use it rather than the staff setup is borked, cool

same question for the Surge fans

[olive ember]

bruh l4d2 doesn't even have progression

lack of content sure but if a game is good enough that alone will last, even MMO's have multiple months on end without a content patch, games like payday 2 and payday 3 only have so many maps and most meta builds follow the same principals

the crafting experience actively hinders the game

[upper galleon]

yes, but l4d2 is fucking old

and basically had no competition besides cod zombie

if l4d2 released today it would be forgotten quick I mean look how quick HL Alyx fell off the map

[cyan notch]

cuz its vr

if the issue is you dont want players just changing locks every day then just make it cost more mats or something so ur not changing it 17 times per week unless you play a lot and have a lot of mats

theres no player agency at all besides oh lol go gamble again

in a game where this rng slot machine to get weapons isnt even the main gameplay

[regal jasper]

@upper galleon

[upper galleon]

ewww

why exorcist on

why TB??

AAAAA

ok it's not the worst i've seen

on sword you want crit damage-> maniac

[regal jasper]

Oh ok

[upper galleon]

and exorcist to slaughterer

and i'd look for a new staff cause 54% damage is pretty bad

[regal jasper]

It gets me by on damnation

Every time I’ve tried i just get a worse dmg %

So i gave up

[upper galleon]

and you want warp flurry

[regal jasper]

I got a 30 80 80 80 80 once

[upper galleon]

i guess transfer peril isn't too bad but you really should get used to edging perils around 80% at least

for warp unleashed

[regal jasper]

I cried

I like transfer peril

[olive ember]

staff is yikes

[cyan notch]

its good

[upper galleon]

i'd run warp flurry + transfer tho doesn't, sound terrible

[olive ember]

cuz voidstrike is yikes

[upper galleon]

it's not

[olive ember]

but besides that its

[regal jasper]

My staff is special to me

[upper galleon]

cause you can edge really easily

[olive ember]

voidstrike is literally the worst staff in the game

[upper galleon]

with very little downtime for big damage increase

ehh, I'd say surge is worse

voidstrike is just, mediocre

[cyan notch]

transfer peril is excellent for uninterrupted fire

[regal jasper]

Thats why i am the only voidstrike user

[cyan notch]

downtime from quelling is lame as hell

[upper galleon]

needs love but people who use it aren't terrible

[magic hull]

why does heresy felt so much more sweaty than damnation games lol

[olive ember]

if you are edging you aren't using flurry so its

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper galleon]

true

yee I think it's safe to say

void can run warp flurry+ transfer peril

[olive ember]

idk I only dare to play auric damnation nowadays

[regal jasper]

I know my staff aint the best

[upper galleon]

but I WOULD not take exorcist on a sword

[olive ember]

normal damnation is full of scrubs

Idek who plays heresy now

[regal jasper]

So swap exorcist

[upper galleon]

normal damantion became the new normal heresy

[upper galleon]

yee swap TB to warp flurry

so you can spam more of those bolts you love

[regal jasper]

Alrighty

[olive ember]

swap TB to flurry and unyielding to flak or something idk

[magic hull]

mate, heresy is on crack nowadays. Just had a 3100+ kills game today, and had to carry my team.

[upper galleon]

i mean

[olive ember]

so like any other day

[upper galleon]

heresy had a bad rep before the auric update

[olive ember]

you have to remember, way back everyone played malice for mat grinding

[upper galleon]

i can't imagine how it is now and I don't want to personally find out

[olive ember]

and then they buffed damnation and heresy rewards so every good player immediately jumped to damnation

heresy was kinda just left behind as the "not good enough for damnation" players

shit happened again when auric missions showed up

so now normal damantion is just "not good enough for auric missions" so its like

[regal jasper]

So basically swap exorcist for slaughter and swap tb for flurry

[olive ember]

pmuch

[upper galleon]

yee

and crit damage

[regal jasper]

And find a higher dmg staff

[upper galleon]

for maniac

your unempowered H2 does a shit ton of maniac damage and has a good weakspot ratio

[regal jasper]

I only have 1 swap left on my sword

[upper galleon]

ohh

my ba

[olive ember]

slaughterer def

[regal jasper]

No you’re good

Ill just do main priority swaps

[olive ember]

honestly I wouldn't stress too much with getting a better staff

not until 10/4 cuz its gonna be blessing changes, enemy stat changes, build changes

so who knows how the meta will shift

BM for example is fucking useless if the leaked description is actually what is implemented

[regal jasper]

Yeah true

[cyan notch]

54% damage is still gonna 1 shot poxwalkers anyway

[regal jasper]

It does

I spam the bombs mostly too

Cant aim well with reg fire

[upper galleon]

see i'm a fucking weirdo firebug

so i go warp nexus+blazing spirit

[olive ember]

Just use trauma then

And be actually useful

[regal jasper]

I feel like if i showed yall my perk shit id get banned

I dont have a meta build “that i know of” i just have what i like

[olive ember]

Eh idrc if people run off meta or for fun builds

It’s when people go “yeah this build is the best/meta” and then proceeds to post utter garbage

[regal jasper]

I would never say my stuff is the best

Its garbage probably

But i love my garbage

Cuz its mine

And unique

[olive ember]

The redditors on darktide over there are talking about how good tranquility and warp battery is on surge and it’s just like

[regal jasper]

Sounds cringe

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-confused-huh-wtf-gif-20911403

Like idk what situation you are in where you need to keep flurry up for that long that you will bring tranquility + battery

It also means taking communion for aura to have any form of decent warp gen

[regal jasper]

I know for a fact i have that one skill where randomly i proc bb

Its useful in hoards

And keeps my charges up

[olive ember]

I mean it’s aight damage wise but the main reason I take it is because it’s charge upkeep

Yeah

[regal jasper]

I still don’t have the penance

I think i got to 290 seconds

I gave up after that run

[olive ember]

I forgot exactly how I did the penance cuz it’s been a while

[regal jasper]

I want the penance that unlocks the cape shirt

[olive ember]

I think I just had all the regen perks on and used BB more often than not

[regal jasper]

But no way in hell am i skilled for that

[upper galleon]

i do

but im gonna have one

jut in case

[regal jasper]

Use voidstrike

[gusty furnace]

I did it by literally only using BB

Just a whole match of BB

I felt bad for my team(I never feel bad for my team, they're always dying when I'm on psyker)

[near wyvern]

Why would you give up WU for a couple more surge puffs :/

Just run quicken, flayer and communion if you want to spam surge and problem done. Start at 4 stacks, ult twice during the fight ez pz

You can even do without communion if you don't mind a longer CD after ulting second time

[fresh vessel]

Pirate hat for psykers

[idle aurora]

Bruh now you can actually play as pirate with that peg leg

[limpid lily]

that's honestly a very nice looking hat

[fallow falcon]

You've yee'd your last haw, blunt

[idle aurora]

The cloth mask kinda ruins it

[fallow falcon]

It should really be in a bundle for that price

One with and without the mask

[idle aurora]

Remove mask and feather = actual space wizard cowboy

[north pike]

This kinda a bop

[naive sedge]

Some bloodborne type looks here

[north pike]

Full leather! The baby powder required to get this look on could kill 7 bonbons

[idle aurora]

There is a version of this head without the gasmask in game files, really want that one

[north pike]

Oh yeah, might be nice. I just freaking love how the hair interacts with it xD

[magic hull]

same vibe my friends.

[north pike]

Ooo, and the cushion is even black

[loud garnet]

Psykers are now pirate!

[idle aurora]

Ye, I feel like this one will work with more sets, since colour is more neutral

[north pike]

I'm just using all that black leather

So I suppose I only want the pants, and will wait for that other hat whilst wearing my feather hat

[lucid terrace]

Hat must be BIGGER
Plume must be BIGGER

[zinc phoenix]

Unfortunate that it comes with a giant diaper for your face

I wonder if they’ll give us all cow outfits in honor of the class rework

[willow escarp]

yeah I don’t get the mask ruining hat decisions

like ogryn gets a cool beret but has to wear a wash cloth on his face

[lapis bay]

Nice name, time to smoke about it

[zinc phoenix]

It could at least be a separate item slot but no

[willow escarp]

ty lol. also a pun on atlas stones, did strongman competitions for 10 yr

[patent steeple]

I have seen many pictures of people with all cosmetics (or at least hats) unlocked, but I never understood how that is possible. I am guessing its a mod that does it, given the rarity text being just an internal code...

[idle aurora]

Ye, it's a mod

[patent steeple]

is it only client-side or is it also server-side? I am assuming its client-side

[idle aurora]

I have a video of all psyker drip (its a bit outdated, but there is a lot of stuff we haven't seen yet). Mod is client side only and doesn't allow to equip the items

[patent steeple]

ok then, good to know. thx for the info! at least now I don't have to ask the same question again (unless I forget about the mod's existence lol).

[idle aurora]

@patent steeple the vid ^

[warm mica]

oh cool, i love this hat on my psyker :3

[plucky flax]

I don't like the veil mane

[north pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1154760354266628136/image.png

Feather friend !

[warm mica]

they wanted to steal my hat

[north pike]

Beware the oggy

[magic hull]

Damn, elucidian starstriders outfit check. I changed to peg legs hehe.

[fierce crest]

is ther a livestream?

[warm mica]

Oh I love him like this ! The coat and the peg leg, a pirate or a demon hunter

[north pike]

Yeah, the long coat is just perfect with it all

[old oyster]

hello vermiktide ?

[hollow current]

this newest psyker bundle is such a rip off. a recolor chest and pants that we already have for free but you can pay to have them with no markings or ankle braces.

[kindred wyvern]

get the revolver out,,,

[granite mauve]

psyker get the best stuff for combining

sets are okish

but it combines so well

[kindred wyvern]

all three items from different "sets"

[frail pewter]

Quick question! I'm running Purg staff with the 6 stacks Warp Charge/Ascendant Blaze build. I'm deleting hordes and some specials but in general, how do I go about killing shooters and things like Bulwark/Crushers?

Or do I just need to accept that I do what I can and play more around my teammates for that?

[kindred wyvern]

save your ascendant blaze warp charges for rooms full of shooters
pull out brain burst for the rest

[mellow gorge]

I saw that a hat and knew I had to own it

[frail pewter]

Okay, I know that Soulblaze is enough to kill. How do I get closer, ig. For example, on bridges, I don't have enough range.
Coming from being a Vet where these are my strengths so it takes efforts to adjust 😄

[kindred wyvern]

as purg psyker your priority is the mixed hordes, so if they're present then that's what you should focus on and hope teammates deal with rest
but in scenarios where you're on your own, you'll have to pull out BB and do dodge-slides backwards when bulwarks and crushers come in

one important thing to remember about psykinetic blast is that it works through walls at 30m range, so if the shooters are far away you need to consider two things:

1. Can you get closer from behind a wall, hallway or otherwise? perhaps there's a side path that's obscured from the gunners but gets you closer to getting all of them covered in that 30m range. remember that no wall is an obstacle, only the range.
2. If 1 is not possible, can you retreat backwards and lure them around corners? shooters will pursue you if you retreat far back enough, and even group up at chokepoints. you could go far back in a level and try to lure them into a favorable scenario that allows for 1 to happen

[spice veldt]

you get ranged i-frames on dodges and slides (and sprinting perpendicularly to ranged attacks)

[kindred wyvern]

but also you can just
slide/dodge around a lot if your melee weapon allows and get closer

deflector force sword trivializes this

[spice veldt]

though for sprinting, the angle depends on the direction that your camera is facing, not the direction of your movement

[kindred wyvern]

sometimes you just have to slowly BB shooters down if you can't move far back enough and don't have the tools to approach

[warm mica]

https://tenor.com/view/тримушкетера-три-трое-мушкетер-почтение-gif-17249431

[frail pewter]

Thanks for the range number and that it goes through wall. That helps. I wish those info are easier to access haha.

I do have an Illisi deflector sword

I'll try that tactics

[kindred wyvern]

force swords have infinite dodge and combine that with deflector and good stamina, you could easily dodge/slide/block your way closer
just hold block as you dodge diagonally over and over
if you get motion sick though it might feel awful as you have to just circle your view from side to side a lot

but you can close the distance or at least jump to closer cover to do the blast with it

[frail pewter]

Understood. Also does surge staff apply Soulblaze or just Purg?

[kindred wyvern]

just purgatus
aside from certain blessings on some melee weapons and feats, that's the only reliable source of soulblaze

nice fun fact though is you benefit from any psyker's soulblaze with ascendant blaze

so if you're in an organized team with another psyker, only one needs to run a soulblaze build for everyone running ascendant blaze to benefit from ascendant blaze's 10% warp charge generation

[frail pewter]

That's pretty hilarious lol

I do have a friend who runs surge staff. I'll let them know.

[rain saddle]

doesn't seem bad

[plucky flax]

Change infested to maniac. Rampage is a dead blessing I'm afraid.

[rain saddle]

does it not cleave enough to activate often?

[mental rock]

ive tried rampage on DS and it does work

DS blessings are just all around trash though

[quaint mortar]

as soon as i saw this hat while i was at work this morning i was going to throw that exact fit together when i got home lmfao

[kindred wyvern]

swap infested for maniac
rampage is only proc'd by push attack, other attacks don't have enough cleave
finesse being the dump stat is unfortunate
for now though it works well

[indigo portal]

The base attacks have enough cleave to proc Rampage against specifically groaners iirc.

[kindred wyvern]

just tested this
yeah groaners work
but not poxwalkers or pretty much anything else
push attacks however are very consistent in activating it

[rain saddle]

not bad if you can remember

[kindred wyvern]

considering how fast psyker stamina ragen is, shouldn't be an issue to take advantage of it in some circumstances
it's just too situational and too small of a window imo
uncanny strike + shred are just a much better combo

[analog solstice]

That feather hat has no physics

the static feathers looks so wack

[olive ember]

Oh thank fuck you are talking about dueling sword

[hollow current]

I use uncanny on deimos

[hollow current]

Or maybe you knew this whole time and were trying to keep it a secret.

[indigo portal]

I did not, no worries
Haven't had issues with money so I've never bothered hunting for a money exploit.

[hollow current]

Yeah I was just teasing. I think few people run +dockets in the first place not to mention run maelstrom or even pay attention to the money payouts. So it wouldn't be surprising how this has gone unnoticed.

Or maybe it worked as intended before and then fatshark broke something in one of the more recent updates, making it a thing. 😝

[steel flame]

Maybe if the servers weren't so shit rn now that I don't want to play darktide period it might be fun to become a billionaire through monopolizing healthcare. Alas

[indigo portal]

I think it's just been unnoticed. I for a while thought it was completely normal to see 90k+ base payouts. Similar thing happened with the Plasteel bug, found out about it way before it went public. Some people just didn't notice they were getting their plasteel back.

[rain saddle]

dang do i get carapace perk or get a better 2nd blessing?

[olive ember]

Uh you can get both

Swap uncanny for slaughterer

And swap melee weakspot for wte you want, flak/maniac/carapace being the go to options.

[cinder moon]

i hate how tempting this hat is

sad that it's more cohesive than my current gunker fit

[gusty furnace]

I promote maniac

if you're gonna run UP and Slaughterer, may as well secure that mutant one-shot

[olive ember]

Oh yeah maniac imo as well but the guy did specifically mention carapace so it’s up to em

[blazing echo]

I like the lower one much better

[cinder moon]

thanks, i just kinda threw it together once i noticed the radio was cross-character

the hat version makes me wanna go revolver psyker though

[olive ember]

I mean apparently revolver psyker isn’t actually throwing

Well I can’t attest to it because I personally think it is throwing but trustworthy sources says it’s actually decent so

[cinder moon]

i'll hold out until they sell the rannick revolver skin, that thing was tight

[lyric burrow]

Psyker revo isnt bad imo

Its worse than the other known builds

But its very usable in damnation

Havent tested it in maelstrom tho

[olive ember]

Don’t do this to me

[thorn tapir]

idk why but I spent like 10 minutes making this low quality infinite loops gif of my drip

lol

[olive ember]

You’re gonna make me waste all my saved up plasteel on a fucking revolver so I can try it out

[thorn tapir]

I didnt realize the guys walking in the background its ruined lmao

[steel flame]

I hope revolver gets a blessing facelift in the next update, is what would say if I was under any illusion that fatshark could multitask in any capacity

[thorn tapir]

I bet well get a full weapon rework around december

[olive ember]

I got payday 3 to distract me until 10/4 atleast

[steel flame]

Yeah December next year sounds pretty reasonable

[thorn tapir]

lol

[steel flame]

You've got payday, I've got cyberpunk 2.O. goddam its so good now. I managed to start a full on street war between maelstrom and the police to cover my robbery gig last night and it was so satisfying watching maxtac curb stomp them

[lucid terrace]

It’s so expensive tho

If you buy it you’ll go into debt and the sun will explode

[cinder moon]

yeah, 1400 aquila for a hat is nuts, but then again they charge like 400 for a stupid rag, and 900 for things that are literal reskins of penance gear

[fierce crest]

thats better

adds some character

dynamics and whatnot

[blazing echo]

big thanks to @bright axle @spice quest @knotty flint and whoever controls Rosemonde. I really wanted that set of armour and you made it possible o7

[knotty flint]

Congrats!! And thank you so much

[lucid terrace]

There's literally no reason as to why they're that expensive, especially the recolors/reskins. It's pretty disgusting on Fatshark's part

[fierce crest]

at least the game is f2p

they gotta make money somehow

[kindred wyvern]

far from it
any gun in psyker hands gets huge damage bonuses other classes can't reach, veteran only competes cause of more ammo/volley fire/crit chance
vet can get 100% crit with revolver, but not as high of a damage boost
6 warp charges + warp unleashed and you got yourself a very powerful revolver
add in ascendant blaze to clear out shooters or hordes, add in the funny illisi sword or really whatever you like (i run dueling sword), it's very fun and viable in maelstrom

[upper galleon]

warp unleashed doesn't matter with guns

cause you can't build peril especially if you are running 6 charges

[kindred wyvern]

if you want to be more helpful against monsters, tacking on cerebral lacerations helps immensely
but if you're mainly playing HISTG, i usually go with psychic communion

[upper galleon]

or well, it's only 10% not major

[kindred wyvern]

there are plenty of targets to brainburst, you can right click brain burst to bring it up manually, or if you have the funny sword (illisi) you can just rub your sword many times

there are plenty of tools beyond a staff to increase peril

[upper galleon]

if you are going gun psyker, that assumes you are taking a gun no?

then you are just running a scuffed KB build

without KB

[kindred wyvern]

not only that but 10% is enough to hit several breakpoints, so you don't even need the peril

[upper galleon]

yee

vet just, has more bonuses outside of damage (stability, damage reduction, highlighting, immune to suppression) even if psyker gets more flat damage, vet ramps up better

[kindred wyvern]

BB alone on damnation plus 6 charges and warp unleashed = one bb flamers
45 peril and you 2 BB crushers
etc
on any build it's a great feat

with revolver
you're increasing the crit damage on that (add in surgical and crucian roulette for more crit chance) to ludricous levels

[upper galleon]

not debating

WU is the meta

6 charges and wildfire is kills vs damage once you get into damnation+ modes

I just feel like gun psyker isn't currently well supported

and you'd be better off going all in on staff

you get damage bonus, but so does every other build

and veteran remains champion of guns cause lmao fatshark gave them every buff in the game

[kindred wyvern]

i highly disagree
but i also just do not have fun using staffs, yet love the psyker's innate stamina regen, BB, and other aspects of their kit

[cinder moon]

just bind tag to E and spam it into crowds, dollar store volley fire

[kindred wyvern]

revolver psyker, recon lasgun psyker, or even the broken op bullshit that is autopistol psyker
lmao

[cinder moon]

what's your dueling sword look like

[kindred wyvern]

autopistol psyker can run kinetic flayer instead of warp battery because of pinning fire
and if you really want to
kinetic flayer with any other gun if you have the funny sword with slaughterer

[cinder moon]

neat, thanks

[kindred wyvern]

got very lucky on the dump stat

[upper galleon]

great way to annoy your team

[cinder moon]

there's a thing called self control

[upper galleon]

yee KF is just sad, they could probably remove the cooldown (post pinning nerf) or lower it by 2/3rds

[cinder moon]

i spam E to figure out where the targets are, then highlight the most important ones

[upper galleon]

and it would still have to compete with 6 charges and wildfire but that won't matter oct 4th anyways

[kindred wyvern]

kinetic flayer is perfectly fine imo
i feel like it synergizes perfectly with a gunpsyker build cause you can actually pick what's getting that free brainburst so to speak

[upper galleon]

sorry, I just have ptsd from people who put tag on left click

[cinder moon]

yeah i don't do that

[upper galleon]

nah, it's really not imo, the cooldown is too long and you'd be better off going 6 charges

[kindred wyvern]

that's the thing
you can get the benefit of the 6 charges+AB benefit of killing shooters/poxwalkers by having either autopisol with pinning fire or illisi(or equivalent) with slaughterer

as those blessings affect soulblaze damage

in those scenarios where you're using a more rapid fire weapon like say
autopistol or recon las

it's gunna trigger on whatever you're shooting at, making killing things like muties or reapers easy

[upper galleon]

wildfire has a wacky scaling (not on gun pysker of course) when density gets really dense

yee, I just think, it needs a lower CD

and both slaught and pinning (and possibly illisi) will eat nerfs

[kindred wyvern]

im sure they will

anything that increases power should be nerfed tbh

err

[upper galleon]

15 second cd could easily be 10 or even 5

[kindred wyvern]

blessing wise

[upper galleon]

and it wouldn't be OP ngl

would also help synergize it with WU better before battle meditation takes away your peril

[kindred wyvern]

that will be a nice part about oct 4th patch
i can possibly just turn off battle meditation

lel

constantly edge on 90% peril

[plucky flax]

Put specialist damage on this to 1 shot flamers.

[kindred wyvern]

warp unleashed + warp battery already does this for me most of the time

[plucky flax]

Okay fair I do my breakpoint at 0% peril 0 warp charges.

[indigo portal]

I can't wait to do a brain rot build where I have 50 health 50 toughness 45% crit chance 20 base stamina and all of my talents are selected purely for killing power.

[kindred wyvern]

WU + 3 warp charges is all that's needed to one shot flamers with my dueling sword
now that ive quickly tested

[broken quail]

Just want to get rid of my 200 health as a zealot, why is zealot hybrid between having more health and 1 health surviving abilities ;-;

[thorn tapir]

gunpsyker has the hidden bonus

of being really fucking fun

[kindred wyvern]

preach

[thorn tapir]

infinite shove, dash SPEED

GUN

SWORD

BRAIN BURST

SWORD

DASH

DODGE

DIP

DIVE

GUN

very ADHD friendly build

[kindred wyvern]

that's so me,,,

[indigo portal]

It's supposed to be a resilience thing. You perform better as your health gets lower, allowing you to survive longer. On top of that you can fully heal your health every 90 seconds.

[broken quail]

higher toughness -> easier to survive at lower health -> more likely to get holy rev off cooldown -> more surviving

Higher health -> Specing into low health surviving is redundant

Zealot just doesn't have enough talents for specialized builds

[upper galleon]

yee

[indigo portal]

The high health lets you be far more aggressive with chip damage. Until Death is a safety net and HR lets you fully heal your health whenever you want, giving you even more health to work with.

[upper galleon]

low health build has no defensive bonus (unlike ogryn who actually as a great low hp feat)

HR is needed on low hp builds and even then it's really easy to be screwed over by a "helpful" teammate

[plucky flax]

Me max stacking hp and always run HR.

[indigo portal]

idk I think doing a low hp build is dumb on Zealot. Martyrdom is a comeback mechanic in my mind, it allows for you to do extra damage in a pinch.

[upper galleon]

yee

[plucky flax]

1.2k damage taken 1 heal station used (to clean corruption)

[indigo portal]

Even if you could stack to 200 toughness I don't really think a low health build is viable. Zealot in V2 had a way better kit for that.

[upper galleon]

I can just go, TWBS and not take as much damage

and max stack toughness with only 15% hp from minor perks

[plucky flax]

Stagger never bothered me.

[crude cape]

i run all toughness on zealot, and a lot i see do too wym not viable?

[plucky flax]

The free heal is too op.

[lyric burrow]

free heal is pretty insane

[crude cape]

i think i have some 5% hp's

[plucky flax]

Yeah it enables me to let teammates take health station.

[lyric burrow]

just let a horde hit me and get it all back with hsword lol

[upper galleon]

like, I never need it tho?

maybe it's my playstyle but I don't trust myself or my team

[indigo portal]

Just the low health build isn't. I run 3x toughness myself, and I utilize HR, but playing around being low health all the time isn't really worth it.

[plucky flax]

Oh I do play at low hp.

The attack speed is extra op.

[lyric burrow]

mk4 lasgun with it is funny

[plucky flax]

Autopistol

[upper galleon]

attack speed op but punishment fucks over ragers

[thorn cedar]

you cant use punishment against ragers they're masochists theyre just into it

[plucky flax]

I shoot ragers they are too scary.

[indigo portal]

I just out rager the ragers and it works out.

God takes the wheel.

[thorn cedar]

"Aaaaaaah! See we can all scream."

[crude cape]

ohhh you mean staying low hp.
I thought you meant low max hp, like not having HP curios

gotcha

i only utilize low HP on thunder hammer

being at least 50% hp for the attack speed

helps A LOT keeping horde away

but i will still heal at a medicae and just let myself take chip dmg until im there, is how i approach it

[indigo portal]

I usually run a Flamer with my Thammer just for hordes/mixed hordes. Saves a lot of time lol.

[crude cape]

i just dont like being limited on ranged targets

my go-to is kantrael shotty, agri braced or shredder for Thammer

[golden frigate]

kantrael + th is an insane amount of elites/specials clear

you basically oneshot everything that is not an ogryn at both melee and range, it's insane

[languid tusk]

if i play thunder hammer might as well go super specialized and pair flamer with it

this way I only need 1 guy in party who can deal with ranged targets

[golden frigate]

and you'll never get one

at least I never did when trying out that build

converted to kantrael myself just for that basically

either that or colomnus because funny pewpew

[languid tusk]

why not agri ? im surprised you like columnus

[golden frigate]

idk what it is but colomnus > agri for fun factor, to me

but, i like voidstrike too, so there is surely something wrong in my brain

[fluid knot]

Voidstrike is great

If you use it right anyway

[golden frigate]

yeah that's what i say

spam cancel and blaze everything

fuck carpal tunnel haters

[true lake]

what are the suggested blessings for purgatus?

I got warp nexus and warp flurry but idk if those are the best or not

[golden frigate]

nexus flurry, you could go with focused channeling but meh

[true lake]

focused channeling isn't too bad, just depends on if you can avoid the hits or not

also really enjoying surge blessing on voidstrike

warp nexus combined with it makes it rather fun

might build a trauma staff, seen people using blazing spirit a lot

[plucky flax]

Do it. It's op.

[true lake]

just never got used to the secondary attack

[plucky flax]

293 smol shooters killed

[golden frigate]

why did you do it what are their smol shooter families going to do now

[true lake]

shouldn't have decided to shoot in the name of a chaos god

[golden frigate]

you don't really get to choose your boss in these trying times man

they've gotta eat just like me and you

[plucky flax]

Just doing the veteran's job for him.

[true lake]

speaking of I got to sit and get that one stupid 20 headshots in a row penance done

I want that claw trinket

[golden frigate]

just bb

[plucky flax]

Go malice or something and bb.

[true lake]

does that count?

[golden frigate]

yep

[true lake]

I thought it had to be a gun

well shit that makes that a lot easier

[golden frigate]

luckily for you, no

[true lake]

and here I bought a shitty Quickdraw stub lol

didn't even try to upgrade it

[plucky flax]

Need more hab dreyko memes for the frame.

[true lake]

so many heretics

[plucky flax]

Yeah but it's such an ugly frame I won't use it when I get it.

[golden frigate]

holy fuck you have played some darktide huh

[true lake]

tbh they should probably lower the number a little bit lol

don't think I have seen a single person rocking that frame

[golden frigate]

nah it's fine, looter shooter mentality and all that

[kindred wyvern]

that's why they shouldn't change it

see the frame and yo uknow they've been around a hot minute

rare frames are fun

[plucky flax]

Not as much as this gigachad on my friendlist. Man's got triple my play hours. I know it's a lot of afk hours but still.

[kindred wyvern]

and a frame is much less impactful than actual cosmetics

[true lake]

eh it's just you get next to nothing compared to that number per mission

only like a few hundred or so

[golden frigate]

would be better if they were skill related, i could run sedition for 500h and get one easily and be a burden on every team i join

[true lake]

yeah skill stuff I find cooler

[kindred wyvern]

considering im at 500h and not even close to that number idk about that

[olive ember]

3.6k hours in one year

No offense but

[golden frigate]

yeah

[true lake]

I would find it cooler if some dude walked in with the level 3 redacted penance helmet for veteran rather than killing a bunch of heretics over a long time

[plucky flax]

I think he works from home or something so it enables him to afk during work hours for the clouts.

[true lake]

lol

maybe at some point I should sit and get the achievements on steam but most of them are meh

I don't really like the other classes much, psyker just feels fun and I was a huge sienna main in vermintide so it just fits my style

high risk high reward

[golden frigate]

hopefully you'll find some of the new builds for the other chars fun then, most of those achievs are kind of easy to do just by playing

[true lake]

will wait until oct 4th for them to see if the new builds make it more interesting

rn most of them are kind of the same even with currents talents

shooty man, melee man, big bonk, and psyker

though I must admit zealot charge special is fun

[golden frigate]

if you haven't tried it yet and have the mats/money, i'd suggest you try th kantrael build on zealot, to me it's one of the most fun weapon combos in the game

[true lake]

rn it's mainly leveling up the zealot

I got plenty of mats for now, been saving in case the update makes my current weapons somehow in need of replacement

[languid tusk]

I dont understand kantrael activist in the zealot faction

why play a weapon with less ammo than bolter, that also does less damage than bolter

[golden frigate]

because funny oneshot build

[true lake]

I assume it has some use other than straight damage

[golden frigate]

also less dps but more damage per shot

you aim that one shot well and it kills

bolter is just spray and get funny numbers

[true lake]

same reason flamers still see use despite purgatus essentially being a usually better weapon

probably has some good uses

[golden frigate]

and also also, faster weapon switch

[languid tusk]

yeah but zealot cant play purgatus, so if you want clear on your ranged weapon you play flamer

[true lake]

well yeah but just making a comparison

pretty sure through talents a purgatus would easily outperform a flamer

[languid tusk]

problem with flamer is ammo count

[true lake]

ammo too yeah

[languid tusk]

purgatus is infinite ammo, just for that I would pick it over flamer

[fluid knot]

Only heretics bring flamer and not engage in glorious melee combat whenever possible

ten years later with TH

[golden frigate]

yeah this guy doesn't sound like a zealot player to me

you either take them melee or let yourself die

that's the only way

[languid tusk]

lost too many games due to hammer killing wave slower than wave spawns

[true lake]

zealots are meant to specialize in melee, at least it says so on the tin

[golden frigate]

i basically only play th zealot and have lost like 2 out of a couple hundred?

[fluid knot]

Hammer for sure takes a bit to clear, but you can do it with relative impunity due to the CC it gives

That being said, it took me a long time to adjust to it having so much more range than most melee choices

[true lake]

yeah that hammer got range

[golden frigate]

out of 4 guys you will probably clear hordes the slowest because usually every class has some decent clear tool

[blazing echo]

Its just slow and the PSword/Illisi and Bull Butcher have made me lazy

[golden frigate]

but that doesnt automatically make you wipe

[fluid knot]

I look forward to balance pass when a lot of stuff gets touched up in its capability

[crude cape]

people on reddit are a real piece of work

[golden frigate]

yeah blessings getting some touches will be

[true lake]

slaughterer deimos has made me super lazy

[golden frigate]

it's on you for using reddit

[true lake]

just way too fun and easy to have a melee that does nearly everything with no issues

[crude cape]

i just commented to a guy, who was telling a new player quietude is bad that quietude is quite good and used by a lot of good psykers i know bc it gives you the most control over toughness gain, the other one requires warp attacks which not everything counts as that you would think should count, and not everyone uses staves/force swords.

just was a casual conversation about builds and i was saying i like quietude. I didn't even insult him or say he was wrong, just "quietude isn't bad"

ended up calling me a moron, blocking me, and saying "hope i never get in auric damnatrion with your noob ass" over....me thinking quietude is good?

like, wtf is wrong with people lol

[true lake]

quietude has its uses, just depends on if you use staves or not

I definitely prefer the one for gain on warp attack kill though, makes it easy to maintain with most builds

[crude cape]

i find i prefer quietude, but ya both are good

[golden frigate]

again, your fault for interacting with ppl on reddit i suppose

[true lake]

that and brain burst does still count as warp attack I think

[crude cape]

dude called me terrible and said i hope i never get in auric maelstrom with your moron ass bc i said i like quietude lol

peopel be wildin

am i just supposed to assume reddit always sucks?

bc it doesn't -always- suck

[true lake]

that guy probably never beat an auric maelstrom anyway

[crude cape]

just some real pieces of work there, just like anywhere on the internet tbh

[golden frigate]

i remember trying to say something different from what was going on in an audio related echochamber, got insta downvoted to hell, never tried to type anything again

there's only one truth and if you do not abide by it, you'll be damned

that kinda black and white mentality is kinda offputting to me, so I avoid it and ppl/places promoting it

[true lake]

reddit users when their "meta" is nerfed to hell

[crude cape]

the thing is reddit users in general suck at this game

i hear awful takes on the darktide reddit from people who clearly struggle in malice or heresy

all the time

way more often than here

[true lake]

imagine struggling in malice

[crude cape]

bruh lol ya

[golden frigate]

depends upon subs and ofc personality lottery, but meh, if you dont like it dont go there

[true lake]

heresy I sometimes have issues admittedly, I haven't played many high level games

need decent team builds for those

[golden frigate]

heresy is the hardest difficulty, you'll basically never get decent mates

you only need good players to clear even hi-int shock troop damnation

but heresy players are not good, on average

[true lake]

yeah damnation unironically ain't too bad if you got warpfire

[golden frigate]

unless they're leveling alts and doing heresy for mats cause they dont have decent enough weps for damn

[languid tusk]

thats when you whip out the second account, hurl righteous justice their way over dms, then block them back

[true lake]

so many enemies they basically line themselves up for death

[golden frigate]

reddit warfare expert

[crude cape]

qestion: what counts as a warp attack?
brain burst? staff lmb AND rmb? and force sword activations?

is that it?

what about wildfire/ascendant blaze kills

[olive ember]

BB, staff lmb, sword special attacks

I forget if soulblaze counts

Y u ask?

[true lake]

soul blaze should count if it was from a purgatus

idk about the talent that applies soulblaze through other means tho

[olive ember]

Well it’s the purge direct damage that kills not the soulblaze iirc

[fluid knot]

Its on of them communities tbh, if you like something someone else doesnt, fairly often they'll take it personally for whatever reason, same as if you find viable usecases in something considered off-meta or "bad"

[plucky flax]

Staff right click is warp attack too.

[fluid knot]

Ive been blocked by a few people literally in this discord coz i like funny weapons for example

[plucky flax]

Duelling sword gang.

[fluid knot]

Duelling sword is fune

[olive ember]

Blocked

[plucky flax]

Can't stop me swagging in these haters.

[true lake]

the only weapons i flat out hate are las rifles

[olive ember]

He doesn’t like slab shield = block

[true lake]

only las rifle that is decent is hellbore, everything else feels weak af

[fluid knot]

Hey! it might be getting that rework this patch, like actually legit might be

[olive ember]

Lmao

[fluid knot]

[golden frigate]

blocked, you can only have fun with blazing voidstrike smh my head at this noob

[olive ember]

But then what am I gonna say in ogryn chat then if slab shield is actually good

I’ll have to resort to the rumbler

[fluid knot]

Laughs in Catachan Sword and Indignatus

[fluid knot]

You wouldnt dare!

[true lake]

rumbler ain't that bad

[fluid knot]

Nah, its not spectacular, but usable and very fun

"PLUNK!" into the Sniper's head

[true lake]

most of the guns feel weird on ogryn

[fluid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/yessss-hell-yeah-brother-gif-22960551

Stubbgryns when patch drops

[upper galleon]

who says it is

people who are stuck in 2022

[gilded viper]

Man 2020 was like yesterday man

[plucky flax]

Ogryn gigachads run mk1 bully club + rumbler in maelstroms.

[olive ember]

^^ how to make me tilt

[upper galleon]

clumbler build is legit

vet gives unlimited ammo, haymaker covers your horde weakness enough

[olive ember]

I’d prefer if they just killed everything

[upper galleon]

it does

[olive ember]

But it doesn’t

If that’s the case why is my surge staff still hitting poxwalkers HUH

EXPLAIN THAT

[true wedge]

Must be a bug.

Anyway, I finally got a T4 transfer peril blessing for my Voidstrike. Anyone got some edumacated thoughts on what I should go for with replacing the other blessing/a perk?

[lyric burrow]

flak/unarmored or something

could use maniac but it does pretty low maniac damage

[golden frigate]

replace TP with blaze and flurry with nexus

if you really want to tp flurry get some flak instead of crit but know that you won't be approved by me

[upper galleon]

warp flurry is great and imo not worth going for 4

trade crit chance for flak

and you got a proper stick

[true wedge]

How much extra damage is flak?

[upper galleon]

blazing void is, bad, cause of the target cap. Blazing trauma works much better

25%?

[golden frigate]

it doesn't make rooms blue, so you are mistaken

[golden frigate]

target cap doesnt matter when you spam the shit out of it with r cancels

[true wedge]

Ah, alright. I'm sorta considering going for extra damage on headshots, since I'm already trying for that because of TP.

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/pharaoh-the-curse-of-pharaoh-the-curse-of-ra-the-pharaohs-curse-curse-gif-11399353413966969960

[true wedge]

But no clue on how good that actually is.

[golden frigate]

that perk is bait, it gives you so little damage it's really not worth it

[upper galleon]

no

[true wedge]

Noted.

[upper galleon]

weakspot damage is calculated VERY SHITTELY

so, say a weakspot hit does 40% more damage for a total of 140% damage

10% perk only applies to the 40%

[golden frigate]

also void hits arms as well, not making the perk activate iirc

[upper galleon]

so you are only gonna get a grand total of 4% more damage

on weakspot hits

[true wedge]

That's... Impressively bad.

[upper galleon]

this also applies to crit damage

[upper galleon]

yep

and 25% damage perks apply to the whole thing I believe so

[true wedge]

Like, I'd genuinely struggle to come up with a worse way to do that that arguably still does what it says in some way.

[true wedge]

So yeah. At least I know what stat to reroll.

[golden frigate]

that's the only way it could do what it says, the "issue" is with how damage is calculated

FS could put bigger numbers, knowing the formulas, but they haven't so far, so nobody who knows runs those

[crude cape]

staff rmb too right?

[golden frigate]

ofc

[crude cape]

figured just making sure

[golden frigate]

anything that is blue

[crude cape]

was it bugged on launch and some things that should count didn't?

or am i making that up

[golden frigate]

don't recall it being so but could be mistaken

[harsh urchin]

they also might not necessarily want to

[golden frigate]

from a balance perspective they should, but yeah you are right, they could not want to balance the game and purposefully give us only some good perks for whatever reason

be it "player retention" or "lmao 25 > 10 so if you thought it was a real perk you cant count"

[harsh urchin]

the thing is that balance is not necessarily the goal in a game like this

especially in terms of grindy game

things aren't meant to be balanced

[upper galleon]

weakspot could be 10% of total and 25% perks would just be better on most weapons besides like, revolver

[harsh urchin]

certain things are meant to be better, and certain stats are meant to be dead

[upper galleon]

but that would be a great place to start

[golden frigate]

no because weakspot damage is its own kind of damage?

[upper galleon]

i'm saying as a change

[golden frigate]

oh sure

[upper galleon]

if weakspot was changed to apply to the total weak spot hit

like, revolver and knife, which have a great base weakspot score could at least run the perk instead of crit damage and weakspot damage being literal trolling to new players/uneducated

[golden frigate]

it would still make what it says under the new ruleset, which was my point, but yeah

[golden frigate]

and yes you are completely right, even then tho making the difference smaller would potentially enable some extremely niche builds with powerful weakspot hitters that would not be viable for any other weapon, thus making the game more engaging yada yada

which would make them nothing but profit

[harsh urchin]

I mean sure it would be an improvement

[golden frigate]

but i'm no game designer so i'm talking out of my ass rn

[harsh urchin]

but I can think of like

10 things

off the top of my head

that i would rather them spend development time working on

[golden frigate]

oh sure thing, this is not even a remote priority

i'd be fine with stable connections and the game doing what i tell it to do when i say it but alas

[harsh urchin]

I think if they did something similar with DT