psyker-class

[autumn smelt]

one shot what

[lyric burrow]

which helps

regular shooters

i mean

sorry should have specified

[autumn smelt]

yeah
its a lock on, with an absolutely astonishing amount of range too

[lyric burrow]

and it does the same for unarmored

[autumn smelt]

i quite often just zap and it gets a dude i didnt even know was there

[lyric burrow]

whatever trauma doesnt kill its ccs anyway

and 2 blasts can kill elite gunners

scab gunners and dreg

[short pollen]

I mean trauma is just a better choice than surge, but surge is way lower skill cap which is nice.

[lyric burrow]

i mean

i think they arent that far in skill gap tbh

[autumn smelt]

id say purge has a lower skill cap that surge

like

[lyric burrow]

maybe im just used to trauma

[autumn smelt]

way lower

[lyric burrow]

yeah purg def easiest

just

point it at what you want dead

or staggered

[short pollen]

With surge I point my face at a wall and shoot 8 mobs on the other side of the wall.

With trauma I at least have to stand in the room with the nobs I’m fighting.

And dodge a bit and whatnot

[autumn smelt]

with the surge ive quite literally held W and shot uncharged zaps into a hallway of 30+ scab shooters and they fell like dominoes and i was in no danger whatsoever from the cc

that was last game

one of the issues with the traumas is that it can send some enemies flying

someone blasting away with 0 thought can easily send some of the horde behind your teammates

[short pollen]

Yeah the trauma has a ton more cc that the surge and the trauma does more dmg and it helps the group do way more damage against hard targets. It’s just a playstyle thing

[autumn smelt]

more damage against unarmored you mean

[short pollen]

Against the stuff in the circle, lol

[spice veldt]

more damage in general, because it has a faster charge and no damage falloff within the epicentre

[short pollen]

I can always fit more stuff in that circle than 8 mobs

[spice veldt]

1.3s charge compared to the ~2s charge of the surge

[autumn smelt]

stuff in the center is what gets most of the damage honestly
stuff on the outer rim of the center loses a decent chunk of damage

[lyric burrow]

anything in the circle

[spice veldt]

though the epicentre is fairly sized

[short pollen]

If I can’t fit 9 mobs in that circle it’s because they are all crushers that I just applied 8 stacks of brittleness to

[spice veldt]

it's a 2.3m radius circle at 80% blast radius

[lyric burrow]

ive killed like 20 dudes in one trauma blast

i swear its balanced

[spice veldt]

infinite cleave is just silly

[regal jasper]

Voidstrike

[lyric burrow]

and yet they throw it around on everything lol

[short pollen]

How do you even count mobs, lol. it’s just like okay that area is gone, okay now that area is gone…

[lyric burrow]

kill tracker

[spice veldt]

i have a kill counter slapped onto the corner of my screen for when i'm reviewing footage

[lyric burrow]

big number make dopamine go up

[regal jasper]

Thats why i use voidstrike

[autumn smelt]

also another difference between the two ive noticed is that surge offers more mobility
not in the sense of playstyle, but like quite literally sprinting when charging/charged and stuff

[short pollen]

Makes good sense to me!

[spice veldt]

you can also do that with trauma

[regal jasper]

Voidstrike is just big boom spam

[spice veldt]

voidstrike was the only staff that you couldn't do it with before they fixed it

and arguably trauma is more mobile because it has a shorter cast animation

[autumn smelt]

not to the extent of the surge
huge diffence in speed

[regal jasper]

Yeah but i gotta aim harder with trauma

[spice veldt]

i'm not sure about their sprinting speeds, but sprint-sliding will equalize them anyways

and trauma offering more reliable CC means that you can be more aggressive into certain positions

because I am not a fan of the non-deterministic targeting of the surge

[lyric burrow]

plus you can put channeling on it if your out of position

or something

[short pollen]

I slide while charging all staves since it’s almost sprint speed for free while charging. If I do it right it costs about 1% stamina per slide.

[regal jasper]

Is voidstrike good in any category i mostly hear its “meh” or get yelled at for using it

[lyric burrow]

not that thats really mobility

its fine

[regal jasper]

I don’t have any problems with it

[spice veldt]

hordeclear, suppression, and range

[lyric burrow]

purge and trauma are just kinda busted

[spice veldt]

only problem is that it's a finite cleave hordeclear weapon in a world where the illisi exists

[lyric burrow]

its kinda like the reason obsurcus is considered meh

its just not illisi and deimos

[spice veldt]

suppression and range doesn't matter as much once you're comfortable with the movement

[lyric burrow]

but fine

use if you like it

psyker melee rounds out any kit anyway

[spice veldt]

voidstrike is probably fine to newcomers but the differences between it and the other staffs start showing once the advantage of its range and suppression is less

[short pollen]

If you get good with void it’s fine but you’re working harder for less dmg than everybody else. I mean you could use trauma for infinite magical grenades.

[regal jasper]

Im pretty good with it

[lyric burrow]

i used to love it on enclavum baross though cause once you got to the final part you could just blast everything from the back

[regal jasper]

I need to rebless it a bit tbh

[lyric burrow]

that

[spice veldt]

voidstrike having basically no capability to deal with elites/specials is what really puts the nail in its coffin

[lyric burrow]

could have been phrased better

[spice veldt]

since trauma at least has the stagger

[regal jasper]

My very good stated staff

[short pollen]

Same, but I found that the trauma was less work once I dialed in my lateral movement in close quarters.

[lyric burrow]

dodge sliding my beloved

[regal jasper]

I want one with higher dmg and equal or close stats but for some reason i just cant get best of both worlds

It’s either like 80% dmg with 50 in everything else or vice versa

So i just keep the one i have

[lyric burrow]

you can dump blast radius and quell speed

[short pollen]

Yeah the voidstaff just needs a 380 base score. It is what it is.

[lyric burrow]

blast radius only affects the explostion at the end which is low cleave anyway

and quell speed is negated by transfer

so if you get like 60s on those its fine

[short pollen]

I wouldn’t run a sub 377 void myself.

[regal jasper]

Is quell dump stat on voidstrike

[short pollen]

I don’t think so

[lyric burrow]

if your running trasfer peril anyway yeah

i find i dont even really need to quell

[regal jasper]

Fair enough

[lyric burrow]

and quelling breaks warp flurry

and ideally you run flurry/transfer

[short pollen]

I still do quell when it hits the fan sometimes

[regal jasper]

I find myself spam firing the bomb blast alot so sometimes i need to quell cuz im at 98%

[lyric burrow]

yeah you need to sometimes

i just find like above 60 is prob fine

[regal jasper]

Alright

[short pollen]

That’s not the time I want to rely on a dump stat.

[north pike]

1st, or fix second ?

[regal jasper]

So 80 dmg 80 warp 60 blast 80 resistance and 60 quell would be the minimum best stats

[lyric burrow]

first

[short pollen]

First for this patch, second for next patch

[lyric burrow]

second is screwed on blessings

or perks

[north pike]

Next patch ?

[regal jasper]

October 4th

I think idk

[spice veldt]

precognition buffs hopium

[lyric burrow]

precog is just weird

what the game counts as a successful dodge seems odd

maybe cause you do it 100 times a second with psyker

[regal jasper]

Im side stepping every 2 seconds while i play payker

[lyric burrow]

infinite dodges go a little insane

[restive slate]

Insane is an apt word for Psyker players

[near wyvern]

I doubt we get blessing changed on next patch, the feat tree change will be immeasurably complex and arrive with a horde of bugs

[lyric burrow]

yeah im not expecting anything other than the trees

like new weapons would be cool as would blessing reworks but those are prob seperate patches

[restive slate]

FatShark loves to edge us

[grizzled jasper]

They’re saving new weapons to extend the hype

[spice veldt]

psykers BBing dogs that I'm about to melee will always be a pet peeve of mines

always sucks to play on east coast because I don't have psykers blocked on there

[mellow gorge]

You can block people?

Guess I never bothered to try now that I think about it

[lyric burrow]

im pretty sure arco has all of the NA west psykers blocked

but yeah you can

[mellow gorge]

Never cared enough to do so

[spice veldt]

i basically block anyone that I find annoying, which is pretty much GG/rumbler ogryns, ogryns who bullrush into hordes, and trauma/surge/voidstrike psykers

well, voidstrike psykers are fine except for two players that I've blocked, though their population is very rare at least in NA west

[lyric burrow]

most trauma players i get wont knock stuff behind me at least but they will do it on top of me sometimes

[spice veldt]

those who do it on top of me are also annoying because I always use hordeclear melee

[olive ember]

mid damage, low stagger, limited cleave

just all around worse

[olive ember]

smh not a based deimos user

[lyric burrow]

arco doesnt play darktide to think

[olive ember]

also Arco is like kinda toxic

he just blocks everyone smh

[spice veldt]

pretty much

[olive ember]

maybe thats why I suffer

[spice veldt]

it's so easy to be annoying with psyker when 2 of your force staffs are the annoying ones

[olive ember]

because all the elitists block everyone and only match with players that meet there stupid standards

so I get stuck with the idiots in random matchmaking

[spice veldt]

i also block players who do good if they're annoying

[lyric burrow]

ive never blocked someone in nearly 600 hours if it makes you feel better lol

[spice veldt]

in fact, high levels are probably the largest portion of players i've blocked

[olive ember]

smh

[lyric burrow]

although lately i feel like if i blocked people id stop getting full teams

[olive ember]

i mean only 2k players

or wte the number is

[lyric burrow]

its around 2k

maybe i played a dead time last time

[olive ember]

3.5k at peak so

eh

[lyric burrow]

it usually fills up

but i need to get a little bit into the mission

[olive ember]

I just stopped playing darktide

cuz it genuinely makes me unhappy to play the game

[lyric burrow]

damn

[olive ember]

its basically "maybe I'll have fun"

queue into match

-> loses because garbage teammates -> hard tilt and rage quit

-> wins because passable teammates -> quits because I don't want to lose and tilt

[lyric burrow]

i kinda learned to deal with that by either blaming myself or just accepting some people are not ready for maelstrom

[spice veldt]

i'm dealing with that by playing bolter vet

[lyric burrow]

but its person to person

[olive ember]

I wish I could blame myself, but when I'm single handedly dealing with the entire specialist wave behind me and then my teammates are just dying to poxwalker hordes it gets hard

[lyric burrow]

yeah thats when im just like

team was not ready

[clear hamlet]

You block good players because they are annoying
I block good players because I don't want to get carried

[lyric burrow]

but i also enjoy the gameplay a lot

so that helps

[olive ember]

oh yeah I also stopped leveling alts

because holy shit

I can't carry with that

especially since I play off meta on alts

well sorta off meta

[spice veldt]

if I wanted to strictly win, then i'd be playing premades anyways

[olive ember]

well yeah but

[spice veldt]

it's what I get for pubbing

[olive ember]

half the time we barely make it to mid objective

and it just feels like a waste of time

[spice veldt]

the secret technique is to play bolter vet

[olive ember]

I'd get more from grinding random FOMO currency for MMO

Honestly maybe I will

(i'm joking I hate the bolter)

[lyric burrow]

it is like cheating

[olive ember]

man I wish the recon lasgun was actually decent

[lyric burrow]

recon is one of the few guns so bad i actually wont use

[olive ember]

Thats like the only gun I rly like on vet

[lyric burrow]

it

[olive ember]

idk why

[lyric burrow]

i dont even mind off meta

[olive ember]

its the only gun I like and its so bad

[lyric burrow]

but good god

i love putting my entire clip into a single bomber

[olive ember]

They even fucked over the one blessing that was decent on it

[lyric burrow]

to kill it

[olive ember]

cuz infernus sucks now

[lyric burrow]

and theres 45 other elites to kill

[olive ember]

its only good against mag dumping ogryns

it used to be supplementary damage but then they nerfed it because fucking zealot flamer

cuz you know, instead of getting rid of the jank as shit ability to armor strip as a part of the ult, lets just nerf a global burn dot

[lyric burrow]

yeah it was an interesting choice

tbf the flamer dot needed a nerf

that shit melted everything

but only the flamer

[olive ember]

idek why they decided to make all the dot damage values global

like they had to specifically change soulblaze dot to be a separate thing and re-buff it, because for wte fucking reason before that soulblaze and regular burn dot used the same values DESPITE the fact that soulblaze is inherently weaker because the dot ticks slower than normal burn (burn dot ticks every 0.5s, soulblaze every 0.75s)

similarily why the fuck is infernus the same as a flamer dot, the whole point of infernus is that its good against fucking tankier targets that aren't carapace (flak, maniac, unyielding), since a lasgun will typically kill anything weaker (even recon las)

[north pike]

Whats wrong with surge psykers? I get the knock down ones

[lyric burrow]

if i had to guess using surge in ways where its not doing anything (unarmored, hordes) or stunning things out of position ( a dog that was about to be melee'd, forcing you to run to it, same with mutants)

[north pike]

Ah, I see. Yeah. I mostly just use it while running at shooters, or when I see large lads

Otherwise illisi joy

[lyric burrow]

its gonna take years for surge to kill those enemies so your either just standing there stunning them forever or they get away cause you needed to deal with something in melee

[spice veldt]

surge can also prevent stragglers or even a small horde from clumping up

so unlike trauma where they're just replacing melee DPS, surge psykers can be straight up negative value for hordes

[flint pawn]

The difference between a good Surge Psyker and a Heresy Quickplay Surge Psyker

[olive ember]

Surge is cool because I don't have to deal with super armor bs

the amount of times a rager just ignores the trauma explosion annoys the fuck out of me

[olive ember]

I mean you say that but a trauma spreading out the horde is also a pretty big negative

its like when the ogryns think they are doing something when they slap a horde around with a club or wte

the problem with surge psykers is that most of them have no clue how to use surge staff

[north pike]

I like surge with illisi

so I can cc crushers

[olive ember]

it doesn't help that every other staff you can basically use 90% of the time and be fine

but the amount of times I've seen a surge staff user trying to use their staff when they shouldn't be is just

a pain

basically surge staff lacks the versatility every other staff has I guess besides like voidstrike

but even voidstrike can be more generalist

and its apparent when it isn't working like when it plinks off of maulers or crushers

[north pike]

What is correct surging?

[olive ember]

use it as little as possible when needed

imo

[north pike]

and it is needed for?

I tend to blast rager maulers and crushers with it

[olive ember]

special or elite spam basically, sometimes to help open up shields

I use it to close the distance so I can melee shit too

[hidden crystal]

Realising that Surge doesn't do much damage to most targets, and that its main effect is stunning.

[north pike]

Or if I'm getting annoyed in the loading box while someone runs down the last 3 poxies...

Oh yes bulwarks too!

[olive ember]

I mean I hate the dps mindset but yeah if you want to think about it like that whenever you pull out the surge staff you are at a dps loss

except against maybe mauler and crusher packs

[north pike]

I mostly just want a staff that isn't blinding my allies, and I can just keep using the Illisi more.

Helps closing the gap with shooters even if they spread a lil, and I don't blow barrels to hell, profit

But I main Zealot, so I just really love the melee and moving

[hidden crystal]

Surge is an extremely useful utility option to have on your team if the player recognises that its main value is in being able to stun a handful of high threat enemies for a brief moment...

... but if you get a player who's trying to electrocute a horde rather than pull their melee weapon out, then it's a bad thing.

[olive ember]

The problem with the surge staff is its flexibility

A trauma can do what a surge staff does

but also be used to clear a horde

the only stand out thing a surge staff really has is its ability to stun mutants, I have to try its new targeting n all that out

before it was also really bad against mixed hordes because you couldn't actually stun the priority targets

i bet even if they changed it to always prio specialists its still gonna be worse just because it can't all in one

[north pike]

Building a trauma as late, I'll give it a try I suppoe, I just hate knocking things down

[olive ember]

theres been times where theres hordes, elites in the hordes, mutants/dogs/flamers coming at me

[spice veldt]

i run trauma but I don't use it much

[olive ember]

and the surge just kinda

suck

where ass both the purge and trauma can melt the hordes, and the elites, and sometimes CC the specials

[north pike]

Yeah, it is a misery to see a crusher in a horde

[spice veldt]

I just stick to melee except to engage with ranged patrols safely or for melee elite packs that are too much for the illisi or there isn't an anti-armor teammate

[olive ember]

I play around the staff more, I melee until mixed hordes or elite spam show up and then I start using the staff to CC

but yeah in terms of dps illisi is probably up there with purge staff, trauma and surge are utility sticks, voidstrike exists

if we could get a funny single target staff I would prob use that, like something to let me delete mutants or crushers at range would be cool

and ideally be good against bosses

[north pike]

So, how does the trauma fair then? I just dislike using the staff as much as the purge really suggests, and I don't love the deimos which feels so good with the purge too. So I'm pretty interested in the best utility stick xD

[olive ember]

in terms of effectiveness its basically an all rounder

it can delete hordes pretty well, especially one with the correct blessings

but it also provides CC that the purge doesn't have

[north pike]

More in it's usage and goals. And I gues sI have no idea what blessings to get

[olive ember]

it can basically knock everything down except for mutants and bosses

blessings you have two paths depending on how much you want to use the staff

the standard path is warp flurry + rending shockwave/focused channeling

which you want to basically spam the staff as much as possible to utilize warp flurry

not you Arcotash you are a different player

[spice veldt]

trauma provides a lot of safety against melee elites even if they're mixed with hordes

fuck wrong video

[olive ember]

lmao

[spice veldt]

you can be pretty stupid with positioning https://streamable.com/ystp72

[north pike]

Oh I've gotten rendings so thats nice

[olive ember]

the other path is blazing crit, which is blazing spirit + warp nexus

that path is more about burst DPS, so you pull it out when you need, and if you get lucky you can get some fire procs

[spice veldt]

rending shockwave is not something i'd bring to a pub unless you're communicating with your team or you trust them

[olive ember]

ehhh i prefer it for pubs

exactly because idk what garbage they are bringing

I might end up with claw vets and that rending shock is actually useful

[spice veldt]

though psyker themselves is the generalist, and i doubt teammates are going to break their habit of not shooting the crusher with their non-antiarmor weapon

and ultimately, it only stacks up to 40% rending

which is pretty nothingburgers unless the weapon their using has such horrible anti-carapace

and unless the weapon is a high DPS weapon like the rippers and whatnot, it's not going to be that much anyways

[olive ember]

but nowadays I run blazing crit which basically uses a typical purge build (3/1/2/1/1/2 is what I run), which gives me burst horde clear when I need it because I can generate charges via staff or from what I've accumulated

basically if you want to use the staff alot run flurry + your choice of utility blessing (rending shockwave and focused channeling being the meta picks), but if you don't imo you should run blazing crit because its better burst dps when combined with an AB build

[north pike]

The only one I've gotten so far though I've... the second to mess with at some point

[olive ember]

That first one is actually rly good

swap terrifying barrage for flurry and swap weakspot damage for unarmoured

and yeah

[north pike]

Sadly, I''ve only unlocked warp nexus 4 on traumas

[olive ember]

2nd one stat spread is better but rip to the perks and blessings

[north pike]

and rending 4

[olive ember]

Ah yeah thats going to be an rng grindfest

[north pike]

Zap stick and illisi til then anyhow!

[spice veldt]

trauma is particularly painful because how wide the stats scale on it

[olive ember]

yeah unlike surge staff which you can basically use any surge staff you get

trauma stat spread is pretty important

[north pike]

I just check the shop a lot, and grab decent things over time.

gotta love the check while not in game thing

[olive ember]

tho tbh you already have two good stat spread traums

so rly what you are stuck with is resource grinding

[primal plume]

Is this a trap on surge staff?

[olive ember]

and then you are just waiting for hadron to give you the right blessing

nope

you should be running warp unleashed on pretty much every build besides warp flurry trauma

the tradeoff is basically max flurry vs more damage

but idk in what situation you need to use your surge staff that much that you need to upkeep max flurry stacks

tranquility USED TO be meta on pretty much everything, but then they made quelling like super fast, and they also made warp unleashed a global damage buff, so now its almost always better to run warp unleashed because that global damage buff is just super useful

it helps with a bunch of BB breakpoints, and increased damage means its easier to get oneshots on illisi as well as just a general damage increase for ranged attacks. It also increases soulblaze dot damage which is useful when you are applying a limited amount of stacks (AB, blazing spirit, fucking wildfire if you use that)

The only exception I can think of is basically just a build using trauma staff with warp flurry, because that build utilizes warp flurry but also generates a bunch of peril, so running tranquility + warp battery on it is rly nice for that extra +36% peril res

[plucky flax]

Big sword

[olive ember]

datamine or

wait no thats just the deimos

idek its 6 AM brain no work

[feral inlet]

weapon customization mod

[olive ember]

ah right thats a thing

anyways Ima go sleep before my brain becomes even more fried

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's big op deimos.

[near wyvern]

No it's a default pick got getting many good Brain Burst break points

The only time you should not pick it if you play Warp Flurry Trauma, in that case you need Inner Tranquility with Warp Battery

[primal aurora]

How Bloodthirsty perk works on Force swords? (+100% crit chance on special kill)

[broken carbon]

it’s as it says

if you get a kill with a special attack, your next attack will be a critical

[primal aurora]

Only one?

[broken carbon]

yes

it’s not very good

[primal aurora]

Eh, too bad I don't have any shiny 4 rank blessings like Slaughterer or Unstable power

What is Blazing spirit memesword I'm hearing about?

[golden frigate]

it's the perfect communion of fire and steel

goes best with a blazing trauma, for maximum meme

basically, blazing spirit + shred on an illisi (or deimos if you want to meme even harder), and with a +crit perk even

put wildfire on, light attack spam and burn everything for a less efficient but decently fun experience

[fluid knot]

Void + Blazing is super fun too, 3 ticks from the ball, another 3 from the boom, so Blazing actually starts killing things pretty quickly

[primal aurora]

Surge Blessing is useless?

[fluid knot]

Only good on Voidstrike

Because both attacks can proc it, on Trauma its only the LMB

[primal aurora]

got it on trauma...

[fluid knot]

Yeah its not ideal, the LMB is fairly decent, but yeah its not amazing to have taking up a blessing slot

[gusty furnace]

Its really, really, really bad

25% critical chance from Shred

5% From perk

5% From Psyker

35% Critical Hit Chance

1/3 attacks will proc 2 stacks of soulblaze

1 in 3 attacks will do an extra 25 damage

[feral inlet]

heres what you do

you get your 8% dmg illisi

and slap those bad boys on it

[olive ember]

blazing spirit + warp nexus on trauma is actually considered a side grade to the normal flurry trauma setup (which is to say, both are meta)

blazing spirit + shred illisi is just a fucking meme

[gusty furnace]

classic psyker shenanigans

[fresh reef]

love you too, auric mission board

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is better.

[analog agate]

Why? And what a skills do you use with it to make it better?

[plucky flax]

More spread damage. I personally use 311122. But it's hard to build because you want 3 modifiers at 80% and exact perks/blessings combo.

Rending doesn't actually increase trauma's damage cos it always does full damage. It only helps teammates.

[olive ember]

I mean

well depends on the playstyle I suppose

[willow escarp]

What about bloodthirsty blazing spirit illisi?

[primal aurora]

I've tried it in meat grinder and it is weird. I see no point in it

[upper galleon]

illisi kills everything

[willow escarp]

I have a shred one, it is funny but doesn’t feel like it matters much either way since illisi is so cracked

[upper galleon]

like, nothing to stack blazing spirit with

[willow escarp]

no perk no blessing illisi is still ez in auric

[upper galleon]

blazing trauma good, blazing illisi meme

[willow escarp]

blazing trauma i do like

[primal aurora]

I'm not sure if I need Deflector on Illisi or not. Too bad I can't sprint while blocking.
How do you people use Deflector? I mean when it is useful?

[willow escarp]

I been wanting to build another for flurry/focused channeling, the rending on my main one is almost always useless since I almost never don’t have a bolter on the team

[feral inlet]

i treat it as a panic button, got caught in shooter arnge? m2

[primal aurora]

Do you need to stack block efficiency bonuses for Deflector? I mean, how important it is? Would stacking bonuses make your blocks to last 20x longer when maxed due to increasing gains or it just minor boost even when maxed?

[harsh urchin]

Block efficiency is just a dead stat in general in this game

[olive ember]

Block efficiency with deflector is aight for like tanking daemonhosts and rly bad panic situations but yeah for like 90% of gameplay block efficiency is worthless

[spice veldt]

the only situations where blocking is important is pretty much just reviving, daemonhosts, and chaos spawns
block efficiency (as well as the majority of other reductive effects) stacks multiplicatively, so 2x +15% block eff translates into 1 - (1 - 0.15)^2 = 27.75% block eff

[ornate hamlet]

Which staff is best?

[spice veldt]

if you're not running any stamina or kinetic deflection, then I'd probably take at least one block eff for chaos spawns

[lyric burrow]

Trauma or purg

[plucky flax]

For clutch
https://youtu.be/CYoalxaVzKA

[rugged fiber]

Nice clutch

[rugged fiber]

a lot on open spaces

[rugged fiber]

like bridges or this mission

[flint pawn]

Peak Hadron Performance

[hidden crystal]

I don't stack block efficiency, but I do take a +3 Stamina curio (also good for an extra burst of sprint when needed, as well as being able to completely spam pushes) and the Kinetic Deflection feat.

This totals to "about enough to block a full gunner/Reaper barrage at Damn".

[karmic reef]

For a brain burst focused gun psyker build what gun should I use

I dont really wanna use autopistol bc I feel like thats every gun psyker build

[olive ember]

Im ngl every other gun is mid

All the autoguns are just worse autopistols basically and all the lasguns are basically just anti-shooter but you don’t have the toughness to trade like vet does

[karmic reef]

rn I'm using the agripinaa infantry autogun

how is that?

Rampage isnt good on the dueling sword is it?

[analog agate]

Quick question on playing a blazing spirit trauma staff. Am I supposed to fully/half charge shots? Or spam shots and attempt (I suck at it) quell cancel quickly?

[hidden crystal]

The infantry lasguns have the Ghost and Between the Eyes blessings, and when those two are combined you can trade shots very well with shooters and gunners.

I've had to use my MG12 to play the knock-off vet role quite often when no-one else on the team's brought decent mid-long range.

[spice oar]

A man just tryna get surge in his voidstrike smh

[hidden crystal]

I had Surge on a void. I replaced it with Warp Flurry.

[karmic reef]

Yeah like I'm sure the autopistol is good, but it doesnt have the range

[hidden crystal]

I usually play gunpsyker, but I decided I needed to have a staff for the no ammo Maelstroms, and got quite lucky consecrating up a grey 379 I'd bought a while back when I'd seen it in the armoury. I had to buy some Brunts and fish for the T4 Flurry, but it ended up as quite a nice Void:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1143357397948178472/image.png

[hidden crystal]

Although the standard gunpsyker is the pinning fire autopistol build, a good MG XII can have its place too.

Don't expect to mow down hordes, but you can drop shooters way faster than brain burst can, while getting to retain other pros of the psyker class.

[indigo portal]

I will continue to shill the Laspistol for Gunker. Can easily keep up Warp Unleashed w/ a CC shove, and has some respectable damage with weakspot hits.

[restive slate]

I want knife on Psyker to also have a warp-infused special

PsykerPawnch!

[indigo portal]

It's weird that it's only laspistol that has it. Seems like maybe it was an unfinished Psyker mechanic or something.

[restive slate]

Like Darktide was an unfinished game or something too haha

[spice veldt]

figuring out what warp thingy to give to non-force weapons would require quite some thinky time

at least if they had given it to the revolver as well, then the pattern would be that it'd be for the handguns only and whatnot

[primal aurora]

Is it weird to hope that Psyker could become telepath instead of Vet in next update?

[acoustic osprey]

bleed, burn build?

[gusty furnace]

There's not a world in which the knife is good

Unfortunately, the knife requires headshots

so lacerate is dead in the water

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, but meme build

[shadow wigeon]

For chonky targets, sure, for fun.

Knife really wants to go for headshots to get meaningful damage out of it, so really you're just bleeding unyielding with that.

[acoustic osprey]

damn

[shadow wigeon]

Knife has odd ways to do damage though. Mercy Killer, Uncanny strike.

[shadow wigeon]

Don't know why you'd say that. Lacerate is the reliable way to apply bleed for mercy killer.

[shadow wigeon]

The tough part of bleed and burn is when you're going to bother applying bleed, and to what.

[cyan notch]

damn the dude left

[royal nymph]

Soo, which is the best maps to do the cliffhangar penance?

[spice veldt]

i got mines at the finale of vigil station oblivium

[lyric burrow]

got mine at the end of

shit

one with the pipe at the end

with an actual escape

[spice veldt]

oh you play darktide?

name every map

[lyric burrow]

idk why im blanking

[spice veldt]

hab dreyko

[lyric burrow]

ty

im getting better at naming them

[royal nymph]

Gotcha

Ah yeah, the last part of Dreyko

With the small bridges

[potent echo]

I got mine at the start of Chasm Logistratum

[primal aurora]

What are best psyker curios stats? Pinned guide is up to date?

[latent stump]

i run 1 stam, 1 health, 1 toughness

dunno if thats the most optimized though

[gaunt wagon]

i like going for
1 stam - toughness regen, gunner resist, ability cooldown
1 health - toughness regen, gunner resist, ability cooldown
1 wound - toughness regen, gunner resist, ability cooldown
the reason i go for to many gunner resist is because i use the purg staff the most

and if you get caught out in the open by a gunner you take little damage from them

the toughness regen is needed on all of them

and the ability cooldown isnt needed but recommended for higher difficulties so you can spam out your push more

i go for a stam curio (main stat is stam) because i like to use deflector, which is very good for blocking ranged enemies shots

and with force sword which has unlimited dodges you can travel very far

while blocking

[bold patrol]

deflector is goated

[gaunt wagon]

i love deflector

[spice veldt]

I stack all toughness since ranged enemies are the more annoying parts of this game and I always run trauma which is guaranteed safety against melee enemies in 99.99% of scenarios (barring bosses)

but I also have enough experience to not get ganked by snipers/bursters too frequently to need hp

if I'm playing safely (such as on the sniper/burster gauntlets), I will always take at least one hp curio

[plucky flax]

It's whatever you want. Personally I do max hp stacking.

[olive ember]

Anything as long as you aren’t bringing more than 1 stam curio and 1 wound curio max

[lyric burrow]

I do one stam curio one toughness one health

[olive ember]

I run 2 hp and a stam

I forget what Arco runs but its atleast 2 toughness

[humble bolt]

2 toffniess and 1 hp best combo

stam and wound useless

[olive ember]

Stam is good for a few things

Wounds just safety net

[spice veldt]

stamina is fine if you don't run kinetic deflection or block eff

gives you more leeway against the chaos spawn

[humble bolt]

why u need to block or push when u have infinite dodge?

[spice veldt]

i'd rather not dodge the chaos spawn too far

because my team also needs to deal damage to it

and not all of his attacks are easily spot dodgeable

mainly the first hits of his 3/4-hit combos

you can work with just 3 bars and no block eff/kinetic deflection, but unless you're particularly good or there's no other mob around, it can be difficult to block the chaos spawn and stay in place for your team to magdump it

[thorn tapir]

oh... i just sideways dodge around it and move it around a lot

that seems better, but harder

[blazing echo]

I tend to run a high peril build on my psyker, heres my staffs (I know some are gimped). Am I aiming for Flurry and Nexus on them all? Doesnt seem to be much else

[fallow falcon]

Hadron you fucking donkey

[blazing echo]

That is so sad, Hadron did you wrong!

are you gonna push it further? Pinning fire would still make it kinda useable

[fallow falcon]

I've already got this one

So its fine

But rip the literally perfect stats

[blazing echo]

yup 😦

[fallow falcon]

On that note, is this thing any good?

Never used dueling swords before, but they've got drip

[blazing echo]

there was a bit of a convo in preacher or general about an hour ago about it. tldr, fun but deimos better and illisi better again. If I'm remembering right

still want one in my armoury tho

been sitting doing nothing for weeks, mainly focussed on the other classes or the force swords

[fallow falcon]

I'm just trying to make as many things as I can while its cheap

I figure they'll fix that with the patch

Probably overlooking it while they crunch to finish

[blazing echo]

Ive also wondered why theyve left a certain bug untouched and I figure part of it is creating a base of players capable of carrying new consolees

[fallow falcon]

meme sword

Infested to crit chance?

[grizzled iris]

wrong sword type for blazing

[fallow falcon]

rip

[naive sedge]

It's even meme-ier to do it as badly as possible

[hidden crystal]

A new marvel is awoken!

[royal wraith]

ok bois important question

should i grab this for the surge blessing

[naive sedge]

Probably not if your melkbux are that low

[royal wraith]

man barely has anything anyway and my main staff is 545 rated

dont need much from him besides blessings i dont have

[spice oar]

id get that yeah

even if its just for the surge blessing

[royal wraith]

grabbed it already, shame i cant put it on VS since its on trauma

still nice to have

got a 545 trauma now and the only 5 points missing are from a perk

[spice oar]

yeah shame, wanna turn my VS into a surge exorcist combo so i can just shoot void blasts like a mf

havnt found it yet

[wild goblet]

so like

those handle bars on their shoulders'

is that just for air lifting/dropping psykers?

like a psyker strapped to the underside of a chinook?

[gusty furnace]

Would not be surprised if the shoulders and cuirass are one piece

so it's probably for putting it on

And for storage

One day Fatshark will give me Surge

Today is not that day

[golden frigate]

spent around 40k plasteel some days ago, still haven't managed to get either blazing spirit or surge myself.. one day

[bold patrol]

My group is looking for a 4th to help with a fairly difficult penance. Its the one where a psyker needs to do 90 percent of a monstrosity’s health with brain burst, and then needs to kill it. It would be on a level 4 mission, and being level is 30 recommended.

[gusty furnace]

Uh

you can do that with two people

grab an ogryn

have ogryn grab shield

have ogryn aggro demonhost

psyker deletes demonhost over the course of several minutes

leave match after penance is done

[bold patrol]

I’ll give that a shot

problem is there’s no guarantees that the npcs will leave the demon host alone

[near wyvern]

It's for the ogryn so they can grab it and take that fucking camper with them

[hidden crystal]

Yeah, you can't really have bots around for that penance. You either need a full human team, or arrange that the bots are dead, otherwise they'll likely do enough damage to invalidate the penance.

[plucky flax]

Big duelling sword drip.

[gusty furnace]

Get them killed

Push into bad spots and run back into cover

the AI aren't particularly smart so they'll just face tank

instead of moving to catch back up to you

[gilded ember]

good for now?

[naive sedge]

Good enough that you could spend 500000 in brunts shop and not beat it

[gilded ember]

yeah i thought so tbh

the other one i have

[plucky flax]

Good modifiers but rip 1 perk

[gilded ember]

which one are you talking about?

[plucky flax]

Both with block efficiency. Maniac would be so much better.

[upper galleon]

Yee basically this isn't vermintide 2 block efficiency isn't that good

[wild goblet]

Nah, psyker bomb. You can’t change my mind

[warm sequoia]

Hello, fellow psykers. Any advice on how I should proceed regarding the private game penance for psykers? Should I "spam" the mourningstar or...

What is the way?

[fresh panther]

Most people who need them ask for help in one of the Class channels or one of the "Vox channels lfg" channels for their region

[warm sequoia]

Well that is somewhat useful advice, thank you. No idea in which region I am out of those, but we'll see

[fresh panther]

Idk how much success you'd get asking in mourningstar chat pic people on discord are generally happy to help

Which continent are you on?

[warm sequoia]

Europe

[fresh panther]

I believe you're looking for this channel for Europe: https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042833778931929109

[warm sequoia]

Thank you!

[hollow current]

holy fuck, can the dog in the meat grinder shut up

[blazing echo]

is it really just flurry/nexus on all staffs if I run a high peril setup?

[indigo portal]

iirc Trauma w/ Blazing Spirit/Warp Nexus is good with that setup too.

[blazing echo]

thanks

[bold patrol]

no

[bold patrol]

I’m having the same issue. Buddy of mine blew my whole run last night after we told him like 4 times not to attack the monstrositys.

[rain saddle]

found this green from the shop and got spooned. unfortunate least likely to use on psyker

what even do you want on these swords

[naive sedge]

A "hidden" flag for the item menu so you don't have to look at it

[indigo portal]

The IV is the most reliable out of the DClaws. Wrath/Rampage isn't terrible actually, for non-Zealots you want Savage/Rampage. I think you want +Flak/+Maniac for BPs on the H1. L1 > H2 or Light spam are your horde clear combos.

It's a bad weapon but you have a good roll for it.

[thorn cedar]

Yea flak maniac

Between the two i suppose id pick maniac

Or maybe not, i havent crunched its numbers with psyker buffs before

[rain saddle]

manic savage? or would manic flack with wrath be best

[thorn cedar]

Wrath is doodoo

It says on hit but its actually chained hit

[rain saddle]

oh that is much worse

[thorn cedar]

You can kinda make it work still if you wanna test out BPs

[indigo portal]

DClaw has pretty high cleave already, I'd value the perks more. In a horde you're gonna keep Wrath up unless you spam push attacks.

[thorn cedar]

Yeah

[rain saddle]

instant ramp is always nice

[indigo portal]

Your L1 has enough cleave to get Rampage up in a horde without +cleave.

[thorn cedar]

So long as there are no bruisers in the mix at least

[indigo portal]

H2 has enough for bruisers.

[thorn cedar]

Light heavy light repeating is usually how you start off a dense fight anyway

Yeah

So you'll have it on the next swing

[rain saddle]

Gut feeling is flat 25% dmg on tanky armor types you are decent at is way better than 100% more cleave

it is actually pretty solid dmg wise. I don't think its fair to compare to force swords/heavy swords/power swords because those are all broken by power blessings

[naive sedge]

I'm not sure Wrath is chained hit

Chained hit decays as soon as you stop attacking

Wrath seems decay as soon as you whiff an attack

[indigo portal]

Yeah that's a chained hit. If you miss it no longer counts as a chain.

[thorn cedar]

There's only a brief grace period before your attack anim cycles back to the first swing if you stop attacking

But if you right click to block or hit the parry button its gone instantly

[storm mauve]

question: which duelling sword is best?

[echo cosmos]

I don't think a single person has ever used a duelling sword

[storm mauve]

fair

[naive sedge]

one of them is bugged and terrible

Extra terrible

But mostly they're just not the Illisi

[fresh reef]

Mk5

Highest dodge distance in the game with solid defence, and can oneshot a good few specials with a headshot

[rain saddle]

5 and 2 are pretty good

[fresh reef]

Is 2 actually decent? I remember being awful lol

[gusty furnace]

is surge even a real blessing

holy shit fatshark, chill out on the RNG and let me make a fucking build ffs

beg and you shall recieve

[blazing echo]

I just ditched Surge IV on this for Blazing Spirit/Warp Nexus, did I do a bad?

[gusty furnace]

fuck if i know

[blazing echo]

o7 at least I dont feel so alone for once

[gusty furnace]

I'm just dabbling in Psyker

not really trying to "solve" it

hence farming for surge on the shittiest staff

[blazing echo]

Ive been 'working' on staffs for weeks in the background, kinda like spending sofa change on it.

[indigo portal]

Surge just gives 2 shots for the primary attack from what I've heard of it. No clue how it works though, I'm seeing a shit load of contradictory information posted about it.

Probably works on the Voidstrike though, no clue.

[vestal rose]

surge won't do much on trauma since it only applies to the left click, so moving to blazing spirit was definitely a good choice!
you'll definitely wanna try and find one with a faster charge speed later if you enjoy it, and maybe flak/unarmoured instead of maniac, but that's a decent trauma with everything in place for blazing spirit shenanigans

[indigo portal]

Yeah from what I've seen the surge extra attack isn't a crit.

[blazing echo]

Thank you for all your comments on this!

[gusty furnace]

Okay, I think I've cracked the code for surge on voidstrike.

Critical Attacks:

You'll hit the enemy once with an orb(if there's two, they're probably sharing all of the same pixels so good luck finding that one out)

Meat grinder reports two different numbers: Yellow Crit as usual on your attack, but on top of that, the surge orb is a normal damage attack depending on your total charge spent, and Meat Grinder gives you two separate numbers reported.

I was fat dumb and using the wrong staff for this one - ignore everything from here above

So, my funny meme staff is done.

Now I can save up gold and plasteel for trauma

And the stacks for Warp Nexus are 70% Peril = 3, 80% = 4, 90% = 5 stacks

So it probably starts at 50%?

[feral inlet]

realistically

the best voidstrike is a warp nexus surge blazing spirit

(except you cant have 3 blessings at once)

[mossy dust]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[plucky flax]

mk5

[upper galleon]

catachan flak damage is really bad

like, I wouldn't even both upgrading it vs say, unarmored or infested

[plucky flax]

It's op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM_UayzKRxc

[upper galleon]

they need to give dueling sword saltzspyre special attack

but it's a finger gun

and you pew pew the enemy with a magic bolt

[plucky flax]

Duelling sword mk5 got crazy mobility and specialists damage so pairing it with purga staff is really chill.

[olive ember]

ew not a deimos

opinion disregarded smh

[plucky flax]

[rain saddle]

that is the best trauma build

[blazing echo]

Ngl, not so fond of it but I trust your opinion

[rain saddle]

its instant 3 stack soulblaze on everything in circle and staggered outside of circle so just 1 crit on a hoard with wildfire is enough to run in and clean up with any melee

plus you can run power on your melee and get more burn dmg

[blazing echo]

Ill give it another try tomorrow, well. Ill 'try' to try to give it another go. Ill be Hadron dependant and Im pretty depleted

[rain saddle]

the rending blessing is also good.

[plucky flax]

You need a higher charge rate though.

51% is really sad. 😦

[olive ember]

blazing spirit + warp nexus on trauma is considered meta but more accurately its a side-grade to the normal warp flurry + rending shockwave trauma

takes some getting used to and you purge staff feats with it instead of normal trauma feats

[broken quail]

Ended up dumping damage for more charge rate/warp resist and it seems worth it, voidstrike has enough penetration and AOE that two hit killing doesn't feel too bad, and headshots still 1 tap weaker things anyways

[spice oar]

Yeah that's a good staff

[plucky flax]

[gaunt wagon]

why would you put blazing spirit on a trauma

[olive ember]

I mean it is tho

[gaunt wagon]

rending shockwave is right there

[olive ember]

It’s closer to the meta than dueling sword kek

[plucky flax]

It doesn't increase your damage you know..

[gaunt wagon]

psyker is a support class

not a main damage

thats just how it is

it increases your tms damage

and lets them pen armor way better

like when crushers

or bulwarks

[olive ember]

I mean it’s a meta if you use staff a lot

[gaunt wagon]

or flak enemies

are in hordes

[plucky flax]

Wut trauma and purga deal so much damage.

You are the main horde clear with those staves.

[gaunt wagon]

purg is better than trauma in my opinion

can still stun ragers with purg

[olive ember]

Its alright

[gaunt wagon]

plus trauma has wacky peril stuff

[olive ember]

All the staffs are alright 🤔

[plucky flax]

No surge is the best by far.

[gaunt wagon]

plus voidstrike aint that good

surge or purg

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[gaunt wagon]

depending on what you need

[plucky flax]

Trauma has more range than purg and faster ttk against shooters.

It's hard to build a good blaze trauma though I admit, but when you have one it's op.

[gaunt wagon]

purg deals with hordes faster and you are prob building deflector on force sword

[spice veldt]

I mean if you want to be a support, then you're a support class

Psyker is not necessarily just a support class

[olive ember]

Surge is great weapon

One of the best staves

[spice veldt]

and pubs are rarely ever going to take advantage of brittleness

[gaunt wagon]

surge is good if you have a good team

[plucky flax]

Debateable with horde clear speed. When the horde is super thicc and clumped up 1 trauma blast kills 100 dudes.

[spice veldt]

and if I have a good team, I'd rather just use a better weapon

[olive ember]

Like surge staff

I mean generally the ranking is purge = trauma > surge > voidstrike

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma > rending trauma

[spice veldt]

anything is better than rending if you're not in a premade and doing a specific build (e.g., inspiring barrage blaze away ripper + rending shockwave trauma)

such a terrible blessing for pubs

[olive ember]

I mean no rending is pretty much the best option after warp flurry

Unless you like fucking focused channeling

And the amount of revolver zealots I’ve seen shooting crushers and maulers is

Depressing

As well as stubber ogryns

[spice veldt]

it's not good in pubs because no one is taking advantage of it

not you, because force swords and brainburst have good armour mods

not your teammates, because you're not going to be communicating with them or making them break their habit of not shooting crushers

[olive ember]

You overestimate the brain capacity of randoms

[spice veldt]

high DPS weapons to use on crushers typically have their own methods of brittleness anyways (shattering impact/can opener)

I've only met two people dinking crushers with a lasgun over an entire month

[olive ember]

I’ve met them constantly idk what else to tell ya

[spice veldt]

I'd rather just get something that gives me a personal and guaranteed benefit

rather than a benefit that has a probability of being useful

[olive ember]

Stubber spraying crushers, revolver zealots, tac axe users, shovel vets

List goes on

And yeah I agree but rending shock is far from useless even in a rando setting is what I’m saying

I’d argue that rending shock becomes less useful with a good team because they normally bring good loadouts that delete armor anyways

Like you don’t need rending shock when a good bolter vet is around

[spice veldt]

on the other hand, psyker already has anti-armor in the form of trauma or brainburst

crushers won't be killing you or your team any time soon

I'd rather have focused channeling for more aggressive ranged engagements

[olive ember]

I mean I run crit blaze for some extra horde clear and warp gen

[plucky flax]

Yeah I play for myself cos rando bois won't clutch to save the run. So believe me I'm not running rending to gib my own damage.

If it actually increases the trauma's damage then it'll come in consideration.

[spice oar]

idk man i deal dmg

[gaunt wagon]

depends on how you use it

[spice oar]

for dmg

[gaunt wagon]

but psyker on a lot of builds is the support class

surge is support

trauma with the rending shockwave is support

[spice oar]

voidstrike is dmg, trauma with blazing is dmg, purg is dmg, gunker is dmg...

[olive ember]

Voidstrike is damage like how recon lasgun is damage

[gaunt wagon]

gunker is a meme

purg is damage and stagger

[olive ember]

Gun psyker is meta?

[gaunt wagon]

and suppression

[olive ember]

It’s been meta for a while now

[spice oar]

yeah

[gaunt wagon]

voidstrike is a meme

idk why you would want trauma with blaze

its around 20% crit

[spice oar]

maybe you just cant use it

[gaunt wagon]

with full crit

25% max

[olive ember]

30% if you spec for it

[gaunt wagon]

?

oh

base crit

yeah

[olive ember]

Blaze crit trauma is just a rly burst setup for trauma

[spice veldt]

if it was just support, then trauma would be pretty ass (e.g., crusher)

[olive ember]

Typically paired with WB + AB or wildfire

[plucky flax]

Mfw I do 500k damage over 1k range kills with blaze trauma in a 31 mins game.

[willow escarp]

I’ve been wanting to build another trauma with flurry+focus rather than rending specifically bc I mostly play premade and there’s almost always a bolter lol

[spice oar]

psyker isnt really primarily anything imo, could even try a tank build if you feel like it

[plucky flax]

Vet is the real support

[spice veldt]

only pain point of psyker is not having any good ranged force single-target DPS

[plucky flax]

Free ammo free nades

[willow escarp]

god help us if ammo aura becomes optional in update

[spice veldt]

psyker W

presumably they'll buff ammo gain or ammo pickups

but i do hope it makes some people just use their melee more

i shouldn't be seeing a zealot with more ranged damage than melee

[spice oar]

apparently theyll be a proper gunker tree

[willow escarp]

psyker W for sure, I do play a ton of ogryn as well tho

[willow escarp]

pinning fire nerf would help that

[spice veldt]

true

[shadow wigeon]

I tried it with focus on trauma and it came in useful very very rarely.

[gusty furnace]

God I wish the voidstrike staff ignored arms

holy fuck it pains me to do a full charge and then not get the kill because of shitty damage reduction mechanics that I can do nothing about

[spice veldt]

if only it got the plasma treatment

another unusual thing is that it seems to do less damage to Bruisers specifically

[olive ember]

Voidstrike should have infinite pen until it hits like a wall or a shield

[spice veldt]

not that it matters if you're using warp unleashed, but it's an unusual property

[olive ember]

Then maybe it would atleast fulfill its role

[gusty furnace]

It should ignore bulwark shields

ignore the bulwark behind it? Probably not

[spice veldt]

or at least be able to guardbreak them

[gusty furnace]

but ignoring the shield would be pristine

Yeah

The fact that they just tank it is super feelsbadman

[spice veldt]

or a system where it distributes its damage based on the cleave per target

for a relatively clunky weapon (charge-based weapon, noticeable projectile travel time), I would hope the impact of each shot would be good besides for just hordes

[gusty furnace]

what the fuck fatshark

I spend 25,000 plasteel on voidstrike to find surge

and you give it to me first try on a trauma

why the actual fuck are you like this 😭

[spice veldt]

(owned)

[gusty furnace]

Not that I want surge

since it apparently doesn't work on trauma, in any useful fashion

what blessings do you even want on this thing anyway

Warp Flurry and Rending Shockwave

or

Warp Nexus and Blazing Spirits?

[gusty furnace]

Like uh

[narrow valve]

Thing its warp nexus blazin spirit

[gusty furnace]

both are fine is the question

And I'll probably end up building out both anyway because why not

[olive ember]

Both setups work depending on how you play

But yeah surge blessing on trauma only works with its lmb so it’s fucking useless

[gusty furnace]

Well, I've got one half done

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Now I just need to work on Warp Nexus/Blaze

[olive ember]

It’s two completely different feat builds btw

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, blaze wants the warpfire feats right

[olive ember]

Warp flurry rending shock runs tranquility and warp battery to max out on peril resist so you can actually utilize flurry to spam

[gusty furnace]

whatever fatshark calls the blue flame

[olive ember]

And yeah blaze used either warp battery or wildfire with ascendant blaze

Soulblaze

[gusty furnace]

This is what I run with currently

[indigo portal]

WN/BS is pretty fun. WF/RS sounds cool on paper but RS doesn't feel like it gets any mileage in pubs, WF hard carries the whole staff in that combo ime.

[gusty furnace]

I've put zero brainpower into it

[olive ember]

This for flurry trauma?

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah to get value from rending in pubs is random and rare. I'll mention im running RS if there's a zealot, and no bolter, for instance.

[gusty furnace]

These are what I've been using so far

[olive ember]

Personally unless you are using ascendant blaze or quicken, I’d swap out communion for aura (3rd column 2nd option instead of 1st). I then use kinetic flayer instead of warp battery (5th column 3rd feat instead of 1st) to upkeep warp charges

Voidstrike I’m not too familiar with

But surge I’d def recommend running something like X/1/2/1/3/3

X is up to you if you want Quietitude for consistency or warp absorption for funny Illisi regen

[idle aurora]

Shield ogryns in auric missions are conducting some sort of experiment for sure. Something like - How fast can i get 3 other people go insane

[olive ember]

I see eviscerator zealots and revolver vets so yeah

Randos are something alright

[gusty furnace]

well that's solved

never have to think about this loadout again

wait shit

Wrong one

[idle aurora]

I really hope shield gets mega value after the patch, I really do, but atm, holy shit does it make a run more miserable

[gusty furnace]

there we go

[shadow wigeon]

I enjoy that build but ultimately have ended preferring 3-2-1-1-1-3 for lots of cc

[olive ember]

🤔 that ain’t bad but the BB breakpoints from goin tranquility instead of warp unleashed hurt

That’s prob what I’d run for flurry trauma build tho

Warp flurry trauma rly benefits from that 36% warp resist

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah you give up BB breakpoints for just... constant lightning

[indigo portal]

Kinetic Flayer w/ Trauma or Purge is such a fun combo. Just randomly popping elites in mixed hordes for no peril cost is so goofy.

[spice veldt]

especially fun with it decides to target the daemonhost

[olive ember]

Lmao

[spice veldt]

since I like to pop the trauma near daemonhosts since it won't aggro them immediately anyways

[olive ember]

You’d have to hit the daemonhost first no?

[spice veldt]

I accidentally killed mankar and myself when it happened

[olive ember]

Oh lmao trauma flayer procs are something

You can proc fucking flayer with force sword pushes

[spice veldt]

interesting

[indigo portal]

Total meme idea but I kinda want to try out a high firerate Recon or a Shredder w/ KF

[olive ember]

That’s what you do with shredder

Isn’t it?

Well I personally don’t like AB on shredder so I run the standard surge staff setup

3/1/2/1/3/3 with it

[indigo portal]

I usually avoid the brainnumbingly broken weapons so I haven't looked into Gunker builds w/ Shredder.

[gusty furnace]

alright, build me feats with this staff

So I can solve that too without thinking about it

[olive ember]

2/3 - 2 -1- 1/2 - 1 - 3

Tranquility and warp battery to maximize peril resist so you can spam trauma

Communion for charge gen

Deflector vs Kinetic shield is preference, KB is the only lvl 30 trait that doesn’t screw your charges over

[gusty furnace]

so like this

[olive ember]

P much

Tho this particular setup is to maximize staff spamming

And to utilize warp flurry on the trauma staff

You give up breakpoints you would get from warp unleashed and you need to supplement your warp charge gen with communion, which means you also give up faster ult CD

[gusty furnace]

Seems like I should run the same thing with my warp flurry surge

I say surge, I mean voidstrike

[olive ember]

Voidstrike I’m not too sure

I think you run warp unleashed actually

[gusty furnace]

the surge blessing has me mad salty and I can't get it out of my head

[olive ember]

Because voidstrike “meta” is technically flurry + transfer peril

So the transfer peril means you don’t need resist

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, I have two voidstrikes

Warp Nexus+Surge

Warp Flurry+Transfer Peril

So that makes sense

Transfer Peril making warp resistance DOA

mostly

there's a few occassions where like, shooter plinking, the warp resistance would come in handy

[olive ember]

I’m not too familiar with voidstrike tho, like iirc people ran warp battery with voidstrike to maximize its damage but I have no clue if two extra warp charges makes that much of a difference

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, its something I'd have to math out

maybe it gives you something esoteric

like one shot less on maulers/crushers/reapers

[olive ember]

Maybe tho ngl if you are voidstriking maulers crushers or reapers instead of BB’ing then I think there’s a bigger problem

[gusty furnace]

BB doesn't seem to stagger reapers

So that's the only legitimate use-case of Void>BB

in those three enemies

but the other two its like, well, fuck this shit and BB please

[olive ember]

Man it’s fucking weird thinking about a voidstrike build because communion on voidstrike feels like a waste but you need communion to regularly upkeep charges for warp battery

Because the like classic reason to run communion was because of tranquility + warp battery to go be fat peril resist to staff spam… then when quelling changes made peril less of an issue it became communion was used if you are using warp battery with ascendant blaze to help supplement the warp charge consumption

[shadow wigeon]

You can kill a crusher quite quickly with void... compared to regular speed BB

And you can sustain that

[olive ember]

I am pretty sure voidstrike sucks against anything past a normal bruiser

[shadow wigeon]

No... it takes out crushers no problem

[olive ember]

Meh I’ll open up darktide and see

I should have a spare voidstrike lying around somewhere

[shadow wigeon]

I definitely will not BB a crusher if void is at 5 flurry, that's not worth it

Void carapace damage is the same as flak

[olive ember]

turns out I don't have a flurry voidstrike

welp

time to waste my money for testing purposes sigh

and I get fucking surge

I"VE GOTTEN SURGE TWICE BEFORE I"VE GOTTEN A SINGLE WARP FLURRY

[gusty furnace]

lmao

I have to say, my luck with staffs has been pretty astonishing considering all variables

Mostly just farming out Surge on voidstrikes

[olive ember]

yeah I just checked

I don't have a single tier of warp flurry on my voidstrike

[blazing echo]

Its nexus I have on all of them, think id prefer flurry tho

[olive ember]

finally got flurry

only went through like

10k plasteel

😄

this better be fucking worth it @shadow wigeon

[shadow wigeon]

It still a void strike :0 I can’t help that part

But transfer/flurry is maybe the most fun staff to use

It’s just not very flexible

[olive ember]

ITS NOT EVEN THAT MUCH FASTER

ITS LIKE A SECOND FASTER

ALSDIHASLDIHASFAOSDUGHASPDG

[shadow wigeon]

Refund that plasteel …

[broken quail]

A second faster on a 2 second charge? Sounds good to me, you also dont need to full charge if you need the stuns for crowd control

[shadow wigeon]

OH

[spice veldt]

900ms of downtime after each cast, so theoretically 0.83 + 0.9 = 1.73s per fully-charged shot with max warp flurry stacks

i should probably see if that's correct though

i wonder if it's different from trauma in that flurry affects the downtime

[olive ember]

its like a 2nd faster to kill a crusher than a BB

assuming A) you aren't running CL

and B) you aren't running kinetic barrage

the moment you can hit a 2 BB breakpoint on a crusher BB is faster

imo

from quickly testing for like 1 minute

it also requires you to actually maintain 5 stack flurry, which is alot more situational imo than BB which always works

[shadow wigeon]

No, you’re permanently at 5 stacks basically.

[olive ember]

well that requires you to permanently have hte voidstrike out

which is

rly E moment

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah when I'm using void you never switch to aything else

If you're running well it generates no peril

so you just shoot forever

It does a lot of damage, but it is not tactically flexible, so if things go bad it wont help you out of a jam.

Or more accurately the more you get pushed in a corner, the worse void gets.

[fresh reef]

what staff do you guys think has the highest skill ceiling?

[shadow wigeon]

Trauma

[analog agate]

Is dmg stat more of a dump stat on blazing trauma? I have been running the right on blaze and left on regular (wish I could get a focused channeling but I am making due with a dud blessing

Should change the left more to a blazing trauma build?

[cyan portal]

Has there been any preview of what psykers can expect next patch?

[hollow current]

Trauma? Purg is very simple and very effective. Void is simple and sorta effective. Surge could be neat if it had elite/flak/specialist priority maybe but it doesn't. Trauma can easily be a very shit weapon or a very good one.

[hollow current]

Left is primed to be a blazing trauma. I never used it but I don't think damage is important on the blazing trauma build.

A good portion of the other Trauma people say Damage is their dump stat anyways. But I like it high so I can left click shooter goons in the face when warp stacked.

[shadow wigeon]

Crits on Trauma are not a big damage boost, so the one on the left isn't getting much value from Nexus.
But there aren't many options, so nothing wrong with it.

Your right one is already a great blazing trauma, i would just keep using it.

[gusty furnace]

When you brainburst one too many times

[echo cosmos]

Psychic knives and palpatine

[ornate hamlet]

Do all staffs shoot that psyker ball? For their main attack?

[analog agate]

purg shoots a burst of fire

[ornate hamlet]

Ah thank you, that's much better imo

I don't like the psyker balls tbh

On another note, will the changes to the class system be implemented with the Xbox release?

[analog agate]

yes

oct 4

[restive slate]

They make me gag

[ornate hamlet]

What psyker balls?

Yeah I don't like em either

[restive slate]

Staff special melee pointless too

[ornate hamlet]

Much prefer the psykers balls of fire instead of the warp one

Wait staff can melee?

[restive slate]

Yea weapon special

But it's miserable

Can't kill even on sedition

[ornate hamlet]

Oh

Psyker should have a melee weapon like a flail mace attacks in a ark infront of the psyker that can be impued with holy fire so that when you attack it deals fire damage to heretics caught in its wake and drop small pools of fire that deal dot dmg to enemies caught in it- costs +40 peril

[restive slate]

Sienna vibes

[ornate hamlet]

Yesiree

You can also hold mb2 to like charge the mace and when fired goes in a straight line, dmg and range depend on how long you charged it for

[restive slate]

Once I see Force Greatsword or Force Axe then maybe I will dare to hope

[ornate hamlet]

The mace has no block feature

Kill or be killed

Force flame flail call that shit the FFF

That was funnier in my head nvl

[restive slate]

Sounds fun... exactly what FatShark will never implement hahaha

[ornate hamlet]

The fat cats up on the totem poll at fat shark

I will personally go to Mr fatshark himself and demand this be added into the game

[restive slate]

While you're there, demand for Chaos Wastes equivalent

Hive Wastes, Ashen Wastes, etc

[gusty furnace]

Well, not the perfect trauma staff

but serviceable for now

[restive slate]

That seems alright

No kill, stagger and burn

[gusty furnace]

So what should I pair with my Blazing Spirit Trauma staff, feat-wise?

[restive slate]

I hear many use Ascendant Blaze, though I stick with Kinetic Barrage

[gusty furnace]

Is there anyone out here running:

Wrack and Ruin, Cerebral Lacerations, and Kinetic Flayer?

The build in question seems. . . neat

But neat is all it seems. Not at all combat effective because its reliant on a really bad 10% BB pop chance.

Basically need a 0% damage, 0% penetration Shredder Autopistol to make any real use out of it

[restive slate]

Nope, for me