psyker-class

[gusty furnace]

me try sah

[unreal dust]

You should try the Laspistol. Best of both worlds. You can shoot things and 'Psychic Shove' through walls and cover. It'll knock most specials on their ass too

[compact spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[feral inlet]

ammo hogs apply to every class but i despise psyker ammo hogs because they have the option to not need ammo whatsoever

[compact spindle]

If nobody here says it, just know that I am proud of you

[gusty furnace]

[feral inlet]

i tried the laspistol once and saw its just

a smaller lasgun albeit better than most lasguns

and never used it again

[rugged fiber]

you do be carying

[granite mauve]

you use laspistol because pistols are badass

[compact spindle]

I used the laspistol on my veteran and found I enjoy it more than lasguns

[granite mauve]

for no other reasons

[unreal dust]

It has saved me on hi-shock runs. Being able to knockdown trappers and flamers -safely- is what makes it shine.

[gusty furnace]

just press F

[unreal dust]

Like I said. The shove works through walls

[gusty furnace]

he says, ignoring f has a 30 second cdt

[unreal dust]

And F only staggers. Not a knockdown~

[gusty furnace]

That's distance based

[hoary badge]

and peril based

[gusty furnace]

Only ogryns and ragers consistently ignore it

[hoary badge]

unless you stack stagger

[rugged fiber]

unless zapy zap

[unreal dust]

I meaaaan.

[rugged fiber]

Though on mutie I don't always understand why sometime it staggers and why sometime it doesn't

[unreal dust]

The 'stun' occurs on the 'end' of the cast for Surge staff. So a short charge is actually more efficient CC wise on Muties

Because a full charge will have more 'ticks' of damage

[rugged fiber]

Yeah but not always

sometime they don't get stun

[unreal dust]

So... if you watch videos of people number crunching the surge staff. You'll see that the weapon has upper and lower bounds on damage. The same is probably true of its stun/stagger

[broken carbon]

psyker has a lot of passive damage buffs, making ranged damage much more effective than a zealots

[unreal dust]

Force Unleashed, Warp Charges, weapon procs. The ability to pick weapons that can sprint while charging a heavy melee

In order to get bonus damage as preacher, you need... what? Stacks of Martydom? Taking the proximity ranged damage option?

[feral inlet]

martyr only applies to melee

[unreal dust]

kek

[gusty furnace]

the attack speed bonus applies to single shot weapons

[feral inlet]

just because psyker has all these dmg buffs

doesnt mean they should be running guns

again, its mostly bias from my part

[thorn cedar]

yall just racist smh

[feral inlet]

yeah

[gusty furnace]

Yeah. The one berjillion damage buffs mean you can chew through a melee horde in a few seconds, and go back to staffing whatever it is your staffing staffs

Unless dueling sword

why would anyone use that

[unreal dust]

Generally? I like my Purg and Surge staffs over guns. But I'll play Revolver for style points or Laspistol if its a Sniper Gauntlet.

[gusty furnace]

"Ah, yes, I wish to attack one single enemy at a time"

Though I have gripes with the tactical axes and combat knife for that reason

[unreal dust]

I don't touch the Autopistol. It's a bit -too- meta for my tastes x.x

[feral inlet]

i just run trauma/purg psyker nowadays

no more surge since it requires teamwork and pubs dont have that

[gusty furnace]

I don't like the trauma staff

Mechanically, it should just go wherever you're looking

out to whatever the max distance is

[feral inlet]

ive been working on trying to get my hands on a warp nexus blazing trauma

[gusty furnace]

having to look at the roof to aim it further is stupid

[unreal dust]

Trauma definitely has a learning curve and benefits from a solid build on it

But I see enough people make it work on Hi-shock that I wouldn't call it useless. Even if I suck with it

[rugged fiber]

you can surge and deal with them

tho not simple

[unreal dust]

I like running Warp Battery and Ascendant Blaze on it. This gives me enough charges that I can full clear any chaff or shooter packs without further input using the F cooldown

Or even suicide rush through cover and sniper fire to kill snipers with Blaze

[hoary badge]

I've never heard anyone complain about aiming with a Conflag

then again Vermintide's terrain is a lot less cluttered than DT

[naive sedge]

Is it?

I think it has less Designated Cover Obstacles in it...

[hoary badge]

yes, don't those clutter?

[rugged fiber]

I agree

[thorn cedar]

im just gonna interject myself here to say that i crawled into a hole in the wall place i'd never bothered to look at before just to duck some rain earlier and ordered what is perhaps the most incredible flat white i ever did have

what a happy accident

the croissants were shit, though

[hoary badge]

without vaulting and ranged cover you tend to have map designed with long clear sightlines to draw circles on

[gusty furnace]

lmao

im just over here rolling garbage swords while leveling

and hadron is LOL YOU THOUGHT Never gonna replicate this at level 30

[unreal dust]

For a 'leveling' sword, that's not too shabby

[gusty furnace]

yeah, I just need to kick my gear up one notch to go pound sand in heresy

cause malice is taking two missions per level now

[unreal dust]

Put +Experience on your curios

Speed things up

Its so much easier to do now

[gusty furnace]

good idea

See pals, duh spark'eads know fings

trust da spark'ead

I didn't really realize how good executor is until I used a weapon that got it and had headshot priority though

I dunno that I'll use it at level 30, but it was straight pog on my garbage tier illisi

[gusty furnace]

Its mad ass on the combat knife, and its still the best use-case there for bosses/ogryns

and some specials/elites who just don't move around a whole lot

[feral inlet]

well your option is

executor (25% power max on repeated weakspot), deflector (block ranged attacks) or unstable power (20% power max at 80% peril)

[gusty furnace]

Deflector+Slaughterer will probably end up my choice, if it falls into my lap

just comfy

[naive sedge]

Press RMB, casually walk up to the scab shooters

[gusty furnace]

yeah, crab dance still allows some chip damage into toughness

no bueno when there's 30 of em

I'm just sad that I can't replicate this force sword with extended weapon customization

you can get kinda close

but not enough skulls

and a distinct lack of blue tint on the blade

God I wish Fatshark would make Spacehulk: Deathwing 2

basically it

but no red handle, no skulls for a pommel or hilt, no blue blade

FeelsBadMan

[broken carbon]

oh it’s arguably the best staff overall

i use it on my psyker and the stagger power, horde clear, and general flexibility makes it very strong

[burnt granite]

What's good on a purge staff?

[willow escarp]

warp nexus + warp flurry

[fresh panther]

This would be amazing

[indigo portal]

I love QPing.

[gusty furnace]

lmao

wtb shield ogryn

Why did they change malleus monstronum to private match, I'll never know

they easily could have changed it to "50% of its HP" or some other stupid shit

but nope, private game only

fuckin fatshark

[rugged fiber]

i did all of them but malleus monstronum because I mean...

why private only

makes no sense

Searching shield ogryn for malleus monstronum x)

[gusty furnace]

[indigo portal]

A common complaint with those penances was that it sabotaged your team if you intended to do them. Instead of nuking the difficulty they made them private only. Imo the only one that didn't deserve it under that logic was the Ogryn one, since it's kinda easy to do solo.

[rugged fiber]

missing this one also for psyker but with time it'll come

[gusty furnace]

They changed Heavyweight Champion right?

That's the one?

oh

lmfao

[indigo portal]

I think the private only penance was the charging 40 meters one.

[gusty furnace]

LMAO

Fucking ridiculous

[indigo portal]

Very easy lol.

[gusty furnace]

Press F into elite group

kill it

press F out

literally the INTENDED gameplay loop of ogryn

but no, private match only you dumb fucking giant

Most of the game is just like "Well, they fucked up, but its in the same ways that literally everyone else is fucking up"

[rugged fiber]

also this one for preacher

[gusty furnace]

But the private match changes are like. . . on a completely different level of "How the hell did you fuck this up that badly"

[rugged fiber]

and sharpshooter don't have any private penance

[gusty furnace]

I have all the penances on Zealot, Ogryn, and Veteran.

Did them all before the private match changes.

I just need to complete Peeskaker to get all all class penances done

[rugged fiber]

Only playing psyker so I'm missing a lot of penance

[gusty furnace]

I have ~1000 hours

[rugged fiber]

the redacted one or all of them ?

[gusty furnace]

I'd rather shoot myself than only play one class

All of them

All means all

[rugged fiber]

XD

[indigo portal]

Any tips for the perks? Not familiar with Psyker nor what perks are important on a flamer.

[gusty furnace]

Maniac Flak?

That's what zealot flamer runs

[rugged fiber]

he can only reroll 1 perk

[gusty furnace]

Elites to flak then

Unyielding has use against bosses

[indigo portal]

I heard you usually want Unyielding on Zealot's flamer.

[gusty furnace]

Oh yeah

that's right

Unyielding/Flak or Unyielding/Maniac

whichever one gets locked, flak or maniac, keep it.

and if naturally roll flak/maniac, just keep it.

And run thammer instead

with unyielding for your boss delete tool

Its been a minute since I've rolled up a flamer on zealot

[rugged fiber]

purgatus don't do much against bosses

[gusty furnace]

Let us have a moment of silence for the worst year of the 21st century

[rugged fiber]

150 hours in

[gusty furnace]

but yeah, these are the only class penances I have left

and the rewards under them for doing those specific penances

[rugged fiber]

Psyker and psyker

I think that blessed by fate is stupid af

[gusty furnace]

I mean, its alright.

It helps build muscle memory

[rugged fiber]

didn't know it existed until i saw that it was in my penance and I was at 1

then grinded it by only bb

[gusty furnace]

Force Swords

You're constantly at 100% peril because of them

[rugged fiber]

and force sword

[gusty furnace]

Especially the Illisi

I also learned you can't block push attack at 100% peril

cause it costs 0.1% peril

[rugged fiber]

shoot fast I recommend not doing it in damnation coz you don't os hounds

[indigo portal]

That was something I learnt the hard way.

[gusty furnace]

I've been playing malice/heresy

[rugged fiber]

it doesn't anymore if you don't stagger enemies

[gusty furnace]

while leveling

now I'm on heresy

this fuckin sword

I'll never be able to roll one at level 30

and its going to be pain

[rugged fiber]

yup x)

[indigo portal]

Currently ~600 hours in. Still need to do most of the new stuff, Zealot is the only one I've fully completed.

[rugged fiber]

spent quite some time perfecting my weapons

[gusty furnace]

this is definitely my favorite staff though

[rugged fiber]

and still isn't done

[gusty furnace]

I think I'm gonna do the peril=crit chance and doubleshot blessing

once I get to level 30

I could do warpfire shenanigans, but meh

[rugged fiber]

I'm grinding this one rn

[gusty furnace]

I did that on damnation

No damnation specific reward

[rugged fiber]

there's one

[gusty furnace]

Not for Flawless Execution

[gusty furnace]

You just need to not go down 15 times in a row on malice

[rugged fiber]

Yeah not flawless execution x)

[gusty furnace]

but there should be a different one for heresy and damnation

with two more frames linked to them

[rugged fiber]

Yeah not bad

though not doing maelstrom with this XD

[gusty furnace]

also

D R I P

[rugged fiber]

i prefer my drip :p ❤️

[gusty furnace]

naw

you gotta rock the stupid blue helmet

from the weird event they had for warhammer skulls event

I missed out on the other code based award

Or kill based or whatever?

I forget

Some community event

[rugged fiber]

nah this one is better

tho was even better in the past

[feral inlet]

tell me when you wanna do monstronum

ill just go shieldgryn and aggro a DH, easiest way to do it

[hidden crystal]

If only it were that simple.

[gusty furnace]

I can beat a malice match in my sleep

it really is that simple

[hidden crystal]

You also need to not disconnect in any of those 15 nor connect even slightly after the landing cutscene - if you're not connected the entire way through (and matchmaking can't be told to not put you into a mission that's already started), the mission will not add to your counter.

However, even if the mission won't count to add to your score, some karker shooting the poxburster you're trying to push and launching you into oblivion will still reset your counter.

So will (re)connecting to a mission where you replace a wounded bot.

You can easily need to chain more than 15 missions because of the number of times they won't count, and yet, even in those missions that don't count, your counter can be reset essentially at random through no fault of your own.

It's not "don't frag up for 15 Malice missions", it's "don't frag up or get screwed over on 15+N Malice missions", where N is not necessarily a small number.

I went back a while ago to try to complete it (I'm definitely not good enough to manage it on Damnation), but got completely sick of Malice with the number of times missions wouldn't count (the game is definitely not flawlessly stable on my system) or some BS reset my counter.

[gusty furnace]

fair enough I suppose

[rugged fiber]

It happens to me so many time someone exploding a buster right in front of me

or a barrel

[hidden crystal]

If it were set up so that once a mission didn't count, it didn't count either way, I'd consider trying for it again.

Load in at the start of a mission? Activate penance.
Load in after? Deactivate penance.

There'd still be some half missions that ended up being invalidated by a disconnect halfway through, but at least I'd only be on the hook for that half mission, and wouldn't be disincentivised to rejoin a team after a disconnect.

As it is, the actual number of missions it needs is currently "at least 15" and fluctuates wildly based on game stability - with each extra mission you have to chain above that minimum requirement both making it harder, and more frustrating to have your entire progress reset.

[primal plume]

For Surge Staff, should I use Warp Battery or Kinetic Flayer?

[lavish summit]

Gonna be real, cosmetic shop for psyker is super lame this week. Especially since almost everything on the new page is available on the page after it.

[hidden crystal]

There was a huge cluster of Reapers at one point in that last mission.

Only reason that was a problem though was that I couldn't remember what I'd set my mic key to. Because what I needed to say was "keep the trash off me, I've got this" rather than having to interrupt to deal with that.

(MG12 + Between the Eyes + Ghost + six Warp Charges + Warp Unleashed + three Kinetic Presence auras = bad day to be a Reaper)

(I have no idea if Kinetic Presence stacks, but if it does, I was chucking a ridiculous amount of damage).

[gusty furnace]

🤔

I am definitely going to blow my head off grinding brand new rng weapons

So, after 5 attacks, I get 30% crit chance

basically can just say that every 1 in 4 enemies would proc two stacks of soulblaze

The only reason crit was good in VT2 fatshark was because it buffed attack speed

[timber cove]

I hadnt played my psyker in a few months, is this sword any good?

[gusty furnace]

Missing out on flak is pain

but it'll be fine

its slaughterer

you'll chew through everything anyway

[timber cove]

coolio

Im not really sure what to do at level 30 other than do pennances

Just try to get bis gear i guess?

[gusty furnace]

spam missions

dump plasteel into Fatshark's dogshit rng lottery

that's it, other than penances

[timber cove]

Idk what i was thinking keeping that + 1 stamina man lmao

[ornate hamlet]

Does the brain burst count as a headshot for the serial killer penance?

[timber cove]

I only have ogryn pennances left for the 'Harder' ones

I believe brain burst counts as headshot

[gusty furnace]

I believe so

[gusty furnace]

All I've got is peeskaker

[ornate hamlet]

Cause no way I hit 16 heads hots in a row lmao with my staff

[gusty furnace]

Just do it with an agrippina brauto

dump it into a poxwalker horde at point blank range

[ornate hamlet]

Avrippina brauto?

[gusty furnace]

Zealot/Veteran weapon

[timber cove]

also really upset i bought the primaris psyker from aquila store thinking it looked hella dope, but when you move the coat-leg part jsut sticks to the back of your legs and looks really goofy, so back to very generic psyker drip

[ornate hamlet]

No thanks

Psyker only weapons for the psyker

I like to strictly stay within my classes weapon types, really gets me immersed

[timber cove]

same

I never know which staff to use though I like them all except for the ball one

[gusty furnace]

only penances left for me

[timber cove]

using purgatarus atm

[gusty furnace]

Also, my agrippina brauto suggestion was to use another class for that penance

Psyker doesn't get the agrippina brauto as far as I'm aware

just recon lasguns

for. . . some reason?

[timber cove]

Which staff is the one that does the big boom on the floor

trauma?

[ornate hamlet]

What's a good peril % to stay at for peril based perks without being to close to exploding?

[gusty furnace]

yep

[timber cove]

i hover 80% usually

but im pretty on it with my peril management

[gusty furnace]

Voidstrike: Ball of death

Purgatus: Flamer

Trauma: Leg Deleter

Electro staff: Dont remember the name, makes you into palpatine

[timber cove]

Surge staff i think

I really like the surge staff but it means i gotta have full confident in my team mates n i usually dont in quickplay

trying to save dockets for the highest price armor set from commisary cause my favourite color is green

but i keep spending it on random weapons to get the blessings

[gusty furnace]

so

does this work like I think it does

[timber cove]

yup

[ornate hamlet]

Each brain burst = 30% toughnees?

[gusty furnace]

or does it work when refreshing the 6th stack of warp charge

[timber cove]

Well

[gusty furnace]

Or do you have to go from 5>6

[timber cove]

If you combo it with the feat for 4% chance of warpcharge on any enemy slain

Nah its anytime you'd get a charge at all

you get toughness

So take 4% chance vs horde or otherwise and you're basically perma full toughness

[timber cove]

combined with this

[gusty furnace]

I'm gonna be out here being useless

trying to make use of fatshark's incredibly shittily designed psyker feats and blessings

[timber cove]

Ive seen alot of people using illisi is it the best sword or smthn?

[gusty furnace]

yeah

its power sword

but one attack per activation

and no power cycler blessing

[timber cove]

but its a force weapon no?

[gusty furnace]

oh, and it can also blow you up

I uh

Dante

I'm using a simile

[timber cove]

OH

Sorry i am very stupid

[gusty furnace]

[timber cove]

I should main ogryn with how i am

[thorn cedar]

essence harvest doesnt stack, only refreshes itself

[gusty furnace]

JOIN US

[fallow falcon]

So what perks do you want on a voidstrike?

[thorn cedar]

so the way to look at it is as 6% toughness per second

[gusty furnace]

Maniac/Flak

Unarmored/Flak is also a choice

Its a gun

but in staff form

so basically just grab yer maffs damage

[timber cove]

similie

[fallow falcon]

So this works fine then

Just need blessings

[gusty furnace]

and put gun perks on it, like with everything else in darktide

[ornate hamlet]

How do you hipfire a staff?

[gusty furnace]

mouse 1

without mouse 2

you shoot a warp ball out of your hand

[timber cove]

ya

[gusty furnace]

it has zero accuracy

and its completely pointless

[timber cove]

lol

[gusty furnace]

Because fatshark

[timber cove]

i rarely ever use any hipfire on staff even on purgatarus

idk if thats bad

[gusty furnace]

uh

purgatus does a little poof of fire right?

When you mouse 1?

It can stagger bruisers and stuff

While still mostly pointless, especially because staves don't get Fan the Flames

It has a niche utility when you're about to be in a bad spot

[fallow falcon]

Which would be more important to earn here?

[timber cove]

ye a lil circle poof

warp flurry imo

depends how u are with ur perils

[gusty furnace]

yeah, DPS>Peril Quell

[gusty furnace]

Oh what the actual fuck

so veteran gets 1230598120985901285 toughness back from his feat 1 pick 1

But Psyker gets kicked in the nuts?

What the actual fuck

[gusty furnace]

Because Veteran's equivalent feat stacks infinitely

well, I think it stacks 5 times or something.

So he can get 125% toughness back over time

Which is incredibly overpowered, but it sucks that Psyker can't do the same

[thorn cedar]

yea

so with Psychic Communion you can somewhat reliably expect 6%/tps in a horde

i think that's trash

if you use Kinetic Barrage and Warp Absorption you'd get more toughness back on each BB over its duration than with Essence Harvest

probably its fine below damnation but i dont play that at all

[timber cove]

I feel like zealot/veteran might b strongest classes as i see many of them

or is they just funnest?

[autumn smelt]

imo theyre the easiest to play

they are the easiest to take adavantage of the vast majority of their kit

[thorn cedar]

there's actually a laser behind the bullets that pushes them into the enemy

it's all an elaborate ruse

[shrewd quarry]

Which stats should I look for in eléctric staff?

[gusty furnace]

yeah, this thing is fucking garbage

Not the actual sword itself

Kind of lackluster without slaughterer, but so is literally every other melee weapon in the game.

But holy god criticals not proccing attack speed will never be the move

[thorn cedar]

it better never be, that shit was broken as fuck in VT2

[gusty furnace]

Only because there was no other competitive option

All of the weapon modifiers were straight ass except for swift slaying

Opportunist had some niche utility on shield weapons, but it was largely incredibly bad too

[gusty furnace]

Which is a problem Darktide has, except its with power.

Any weapon that can get power, absolutely must have power. Any other option is sub-par to unuseable in comparison.

Like this "Crit build" Force Sword. Not only is soul-blaze incredibly underwhelming because fatshark has a phobia of DoT, its sacrifing 75% damage, stagger, and cleave for the sake of an incredibly underwhelming effect.

I don't even think Blazing Spirit would be good if it said "Target gains 16 stacks of soul-blaze"

[thorn cedar]

nah, you really underestimate the value of attack speed in the tide series, honestly

cause even right now if you ported it 1-to-1 from there it would be right at the top with current Slaughterer

i'd probably still take Slaughterer over it, to be fair, since +Power is really the thing that's strong

but the new default would be SSS, so to speak

attacking faster is more hits, which means more crits, more kills, which means more toughness, and it also means cycling through the attack anims faster, which means quicker to block and swap to ranged

it's a giant snowball effect

[gusty furnace]

Or, you know

[thorn cedar]

in VT2 it was definitely busted with THP being what it was

[gusty furnace]

cap it at something reasonable

not 20%

[thorn cedar]

even 10% would make it pretty mandatory

There's a reason +5% AS would make its way on Charms

or Trinkets or

whichever one it was

[gusty furnace]

5% at tier 4 would be plenty reasonable

[thorn cedar]

... partly also because that meant more swift slaying

[gusty furnace]

2/3/4/5 tier 1-4

or just make it a tier 4 blessing only

at 5%

[thorn cedar]

well, there's sort of a point where it would no longer have a place, just 5% is pretty weak

an easy way to visualize is just take any weapon on veteran that you can also get on zealot

[gusty furnace]

The only one that's actually noticeable is the Antax mk5/Rashad

[thorn cedar]

that's 'just' the passive 10%

oh theyre all noticable

[gusty furnace]

Tac axes are already so quick that its whatever

[thorn cedar]

at least to me

[gusty furnace]

Mk6 power sword isn't on zealot

[thorn cedar]

it's very hard to balance

man i wish zealot had shovel

lmao

[gusty furnace]

Do the mk6 and 3 have the same attack speed?

I'd imagine so.

[thorn cedar]

uh, sort of

[gusty furnace]

I haven't sat down and frame-by-framed it

[thorn cedar]

different attack anims but they do both have finesse

probably comes out about the same

i havent touched the 3 in ages tho

[gusty furnace]

mk6 light attack spam is too stronk

well, with power cycler it is

completely flat horizontals should never go on light attacks

unless that weapon is relentless, not vanguard

But back to the crit build thing

Holy fuck do I hate crits in Darktide

They're even more pointless here than they were in VT2

Not only did Fatshark keep the garbage damage calculation that uses the difference between numbers to buff critical damage, there's not a single worthwhile bonus tied to criticals at all on top of it.

Swift Slaying was probably the wrong move, and not including it in Darktide was probably the right move. But jesus christ is it such a feelsbad mechanic currently, and it just hogs half the blessing pool on a bunch of weapons

[hidden crystal]

Unless you're leaning heavily into weapons, blessings or feats that give you a good reason to use crits, it's a fairly underwhelming mechanic.

I consider crit blessings to brick most of the weapons I'd usually want to use.

[ornate hamlet]

Which gun has the highest mag size for psyker?

[thorn cedar]

the infantry lasguns

[hidden crystal]

I think the MG IV can hit an effective mag size of 70 shots.

(And, with the Efficiency blessing, theoretically more. Note that it doesn't work quite how it says - as far as I can tell, Efficiency reduces the cost of a shot to 1 charge, with an X second cooldown. Whether you're shooting or not in those X seconds is irrelevant.)

The other Infantry Lasguns can only hit 36 shots, I believe.

The Autopistol is I think next after the MG IV - maxing out at, I think, 56 shots.

Hang on, no, I'm wrong.

It'll be the Mk II and VId Recon Lasguns.

[viral solstice]

lasgoons

[hidden crystal]

In practice, at least.

[viral solstice]

tho they both minimum fire 2 shots, and those 2 shots do the damage of 1/4 of a shot from a normal gun, and sound like 1/8 of a shot

so according to this chart

recon lasguns dont exist

[hidden crystal]

In theory, yes, an MGIV with efficiency can get 140 shots, but it'd take nearly ten minutes to fire all those even with T4 efficiency.

The recons that only use 1 charge per shot by default (the Mk VIIa uses two charges per shot) can get over 100 shots per charge cell, but I'm not sure exactly what the current 80% ammo limit is off the top of my head. (108, maybe, but I'm not certain).

[viral solstice]

106 iirc

[autumn smelt]

dude

it can NOT be understated how fucking good both peril deflection and the force swords push attack are

[viral solstice]

have you considered, on the other hand, peril PARRY

for the educated devil claw appreciator

it does look funny with the open hand shove

like you literally are just pushing him over

[autumn smelt]

nerd shoulda just given me his lunch money like i told him to

[viral solstice]

noooo

[spice veldt]

i wish it was an offensive push-attack

because it's on the class with kinetic deflection

[viral solstice]

it is an offensive push attack

offensive to devil claw appreciators that is

[spice veldt]

🙂

[viral solstice]

one of us is mind controlling the fat shark through our secret network of playtest satellites right this second

and every time u say something about force swords i will push the "buff devil claws" button

[spice veldt]

that much power, huh

[autumn smelt]

dude i really want to like the devils claw

especially for the parry

[viral solstice]

yea its hard to justify on a class that has the illisi lol

but hey

balance changes... devil claw mindset stays the same

DEVIL CLAW SQUAD ROLL OUT

[autumn smelt]

but its just not good enough for me to justify it on classes with weapons that can do more, and better

like i fucking LOVE parrying in games

[viral solstice]

i basically haven't used a weapon that wasnt a shovel, knife, devil claw, or uhh

no thats pretty much it

wait thats a lie i used my uncanny obscurus

recently

i havent used anything other than those in months

the purity keeps me strong (due to repelling all women)

arco dont make me post my technology

[autumn smelt]

but the damage is just so paltry for it to be considered useful
im aware that the parry can be used as a means to block damage, but the amount of extra work to make use of that is likely going to get me hurt more than help

[viral solstice]

ill do it so help me god

[spice veldt]

i'm just watching

what sin have I committed

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1qTJfHsmMgsHZ0/d1337GnfGn5c?invite=cr-MSxDQ2UsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

AHHHHHHHHHH

[spice veldt]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

tbh I kind of like the uppercut on the obscurus

[viral solstice]

the more i've messed around with it

[spice veldt]

since it makes you think about all the ways to avoid it

[viral solstice]

basically the obscurus is MUCH more affected by its poorly timed swings

than by anything else

it's genuinely kinda fucked

[spice veldt]

the light combo is slower than the other force swords right

[viral solstice]

if it was given a thorough animation once over it would be pretty Based and Crab Pilled

[spice veldt]

per attack-wise

[viral solstice]

it's not even that

it's the chain times, the cancel windows

like if you try and quickswap off you can literally get locked in weird states

there's something cursed in it

evil even

[spice veldt]

spooky

[viral solstice]

and i can usually rotate cancel that shit with zero problem on most weapons

but somehow the obscurus always catches me out

[spice veldt]

there are some weird inconsistencies I've noticed like the illisi's h1 being block-cancellable midway but not the h2 or later lights

[viral solstice]

now you could say "well doesn't that mean you're just not used to it" and i would say "have you considered it's the obscurus that is wrong"

[spice veldt]

very mean to the obscurus

it tried its best

[viral solstice]

tbh i think if that was fixed

i would unironically use it

[distant quartz]

Greetings. How does one build a tank psyker?

[viral solstice]

it's basically a long knife

uhh

[spice veldt]

depends on what type of tank you mean

psyker has squishy base stats that you can't really get around

[viral solstice]

i guess u stack hp toughness probs go warp absorption with whatever mass ab nonsense u can think of to cheese mass toughness recovery off hordes, then go peril block deflector force sword and spam illisi on top of it

[distant quartz]

Deflector force sword

[viral solstice]

that's it pretty much

[distant quartz]

Are there multiple variants of tank?

[viral solstice]

then u just spam dodge slide, farm hordes for free shit, etc

[spice veldt]

like dodge tank, stacking hp or some stuff, and all that

[viral solstice]

but it's not like there's exactly a mitigation tank variant really

and you can't heal

so broadly it's just "not taking damatge and recovering chip fast"

[autumn smelt]

oop its monsterous specials
thunder hammer time
sorry space wizards, the heretics are making me look bad, so i need to get me mallet

https://tenor.com/view/courage-the-cowardly-dog-eustace-mallet-angry-its-go-time-gif-4845999

[primal plume]

Been a while since i bitch about Purgatus so here goes

Completely fucking useless once the enemies rememeber they have guns

[spice veldt]

i've just been playing bolter vet

living out my cracked out power fantasy while it lasts

[gusty furnace]

well. . . that's acceptable I guess

now I just need to fish for slaughterer 4

and the first match I try to use it I get the most dumpster tier teammates on the planet

ah, yes, running into three separate pods of shooters is absolutely the correct move

no, don't use your ranged weapons at all

those aren't useful 🙄

[viral solstice]

if u had shred instead of deflector

u coulda killed all those shooters in one crit

but instead u watched ur teammates die helpless

really makes u thonk

[gusty furnace]

second match made up for it

[viral solstice]

[plucky flax]

Traitor

[spice veldt]

should've given me cookies and milk to make me stay on psyker

[lunar hollow]

if u dont keep playing psyker i might overtake u in psyker levels

[spice veldt]

nice joke

[lunar hollow]

wtf

[spice veldt]

(audience laughter soundbite plays)

[regal jasper]

I giggled

But i giggled at your response

[lunar hollow]

i was going to say ive been nice to u recently but independent fact checkers dispute that claim

so i guess u get off this time

[fluid knot]

I mean, we all did fine with it before Illisi/Deimos, its not unusable

Just very lackluster by comparison

[naive sedge]

there was at least one guy here asking if other peoples purgatus burning ocunts for making their warp charges

and I agreed

But yesterday I had a game in which I was playing Vet opposite a purg psyker

and I seemed to get about 900 ranged kills that game

for my melk mission

which felt a bit high to me

so was purg doing that too?

[fluid knot]

Melk-quests counts are stacked by team kills

So yeah basically all kills in a game, by any player, can count towards melk-tokens

[rugged fiber]

You sure ?

[steel egret]

Really?

[hidden crystal]

Yes, Melk missions count the entire team's performance.

You don't have to be the one carrying the scripture or pick up the plasteel for that to count, nor do you have to be the one who gets the kills.

I'm not even sure the base game does track who got the kills. (The scoreboard mod seems to be doing its own tallying, as if I crash late in the mission, I only get however much the scoreboard totals since I reconnect).

[rugged fiber]

I'm 99% sure that it only counts your kills x)

coz when I played ranged only I got praticly 0 melee kill with Maelk

and if i take this level 3 mission then my melk quest should be nearly done

so 2mission to finish melk quest from kills ?

don't think so

and I'm not even talking about Damnation

unless I'm missing something ?

[hidden crystal]

Lesser enemies on the scoreboard is basically anything you can't tag directly, so groaners, poxwalkers and the standard melee and shooter dregs and scabs. Groaners and Poxwalkers don't count towards any contract, and dregs and scabs will only count if killed by the correct attack type.

So no, that total doesn't go straight to your Melk contract.

[rugged fiber]

Hmm

maybe you're right

gonna have to try when i have my new melk missions

[hidden crystal]

I'm certain it's based on team performance.

With the Melk contracts, to be honest you've got very little control over them beyond "play missions until you complete all of them". You can sway the kill contracts slightly by trying to use the right weapon types (but it's still mainly down to what the rest of the team choose to hit the enemy with), the no deaths one may be a little easier on lower difficulties, and the one for bringing back books needs you to pick missions that actually have books...

... but it's still generally just grinding out some missions.

I tend to find that the plasteel/diamantine contracts complete quickest, then complete missions/no deaths/kill loads of enemies ones tend to complete around about the same time as each other without really having to do anything specific.

Don't really know about the books one, I almost always re-roll that if it comes up, because I don't want it forcing my mission choices.

It's been a long time since I last tried to do the contracts on either of the VT games, but... I at least recall them being a little more nuanced, like having to kill specific enemy types on specific missions.

And I'll admit that DT did previously have Melk contracts like that (collect books on specific missions), but aside from the fact it presented the information really confusingly (half the time I had to check carefully what mission I was even supposed to be doing it on), the random mission board and secondary objectives were not good for that.

[primal aurora]

Yay, finally got new shiny penances for visor headgear. I like it more than the hood.

[shrewd quarry]

Hey ppl for My curios should I got for + toughness or + hit points?

[rugged fiber]

I was doing flawless execution and someone agroed a dh i put it to half hp (or more) then he agroes me I kite him a bit but they take so much time to kill him that I went down

[hidden crystal]

Yeah, this is why I lost patience with Flawless Execution.

Often enough you can get downed because someone else did something stupid.

[hidden crystal]

There's pros and cons to each.

As far as my take on curio blessings (curio perks are a topic of their own):

• Avoid wounds (it's false economy - it doesn't pay off unless someone gets you up multiple times; take more health instead - you're less likely to go down to begin with, and have longer to be rescued while downed.)

• Probably no more than one stamina unless you're going meme build, but one can be very worth it if you're using Kinetic Deflection, as it multiplies up.

• Health and Toughness are somewhat swings and roundabouts. One regenerates but is ignored/deleted by some attacks, the other is effective against everything but gets eroded by corruption.

Extra toughness does multiply up many regeneration sources (many are percentage based, so having more toughness gives you back more toughness - and getting back more toughness is good against ranged damage, which doesn't chip) but will take longer to fill to max from coherency (which has a static rate, and being at max toughness is a consideration for melee chip damage). Note also that toughness doesn't just resist damage, it also resists stagger. (Once you run out, basically any hit staggers you).

Hitting a threshold of about 130 toughness will also allow you to tank some common attacks. (Things like that being about one shooter volley worth of damage, and it also means that if the Chaos Spawn's grab attack hits you mid dodge you should be able to resist it).

Extra health, on the other hand - that lets you get back more from medicae stations (as a charge always fills you to full, regardless of how much health that actually needs), but eats more from medikits (which have a fixed HP they can heal - 500, I think).

[shrewd quarry]

Wow thank You so much for the answer I'm actually using kinnetic deflection and put some stamina regen and block efficiency but I don't intend to go full on meme build. I just wanna be useful and a Good generalist.

I didn't know about the 130 threshold thats really interesting I think I'll try to get that (Even tho My curious are low lvl and only giving about 13% y toughness)

[plucky flax]

If you go max hp stacking you cover for grim corruption too.

[naive sedge]

I disagree with wounds

You need wounds to learn on Damnation

You can drop wounds after you learn to clear without multiple downs between med stations

[hidden crystal]

Well, the 130 threshold is at Damnation. If you're not playing Damnation yet (and you may not be if you're still low level), the required threshold is lower.

[shrewd quarry]

I'm just lvl 19 and I don't really dare go for Heresy

[hidden crystal]

Malice to Heresy is the hardest jump.

Mostly because the team play is often poor.

While you can just about get away with being a lone wolf at Malice, if you continue to try to play that way at Heresy you're in for a nasty surprise.

And a lot of people do try to keep playing that way.

To be honest, there's an argument that Heresy is actually harder than Damnation, but the main enemy type is your own team.

[shrewd quarry]

Lol

I'm also using curios with +10% exp to lvl up faster

[rugged fiber]

I'm level 109

XD

Some people are fricking level 1k

[naive sedge]

Its the difficulty paradox

Seen it in both VT2 and Deep Rock Galactic

Highest difficulty is selected by people already able to handle it

2nd highest diff is by people who are very anxious but not just quite there

3rd highest diff is by people actually just out to chill

[rugged fiber]

That's a good summary

also 3rd highest is for mission grims & scriptures

for melk

[hidden crystal]

The trickle of health you get on that extra wound isn't really worth much at all at Damnation, so if you're already struggling that much, I'm not sure the wound will do a lot.

More than that, a lot of Damnation wipes are a rapid domino effect from one player getting downed (often involving risky rescues), and I figure my odds of actually being revived when I go down at Damn aren't that good anyway - probably better than 50%, but not as good as 75%.

This means the chance you'll get any use out of that last wound isn't great.

[naive sedge]

I mean

the argument here is basically

"get gud, don't get hit"

And is assuming you have perfect control of hte situation

Which you won't

+1 wound is stabilizers for learning

After the Git Gud you won't need it

[hidden crystal]

No, my argument is that taking more health instead means you're less likely to need the wound at all.

[naive sedge]

Nah. Deaths usually result from a loss of control and the application of massive overkill.

Not trickling out

[rugged fiber]

Does anyone know if malleus monstronum works on weaker monstrosities ?

[fluid knot]

Heresy players are funny, often the rudest an most toxic players 😂

[viral solstice]

I know it's not unusable, it just feels anoos

the core animation set is very bad

but it's not about the swing arcs or w/e

its the literal timing and animation cancel properties

[fluid knot]

Yeah its certainly not fantastic, one of those weapons that isnt sure what it wants to be

[hidden crystal]

My fifth successful Damnation mission was one I clutched purely on the back of the extra health; the extra wound would have been a total wipe.

[viral solstice]

if u try doing a lrage number of quickswaps u will see that the animation states are simply not right for the active frames of the moves

and some chain simply wrong

[primal aurora]

Is there any info on classes rework?

[hidden crystal]

The most toxic I've encountered was actually in Malice.

Some vet who, while he was downed for the third time was whining in chat about "Even I can't save this run".

[fluid knot]

Lol, imagine dying three times in Malice

At this point should be able to literally solo that shit if dogs play nice

[hidden crystal]

I didn't encounter too many mouthy people at Heresy, but that's not to say they all worked together well.

That said, there are some Heresy runs I remember fondly.

One game where all the other three people I was matched with had named their characters based on Vermintide. (A Kerillian Vet, a Saltzpyre Zealot and a Fuegonasus Psyker)

[primal aurora]

I bet they were hit by a truck-kun driven by a skaven.

[hidden crystal]

It definitely wasn't the cleanest run I've ever been part of (4 deaths and 43 minutes), but everyone was very pleasant.

And there was a solid sense of achievement from managing to claw it all back together and beat the mission anyway.

[hidden crystal]

+XP is... okay while you're levelling up, but unbelievably frustrating to have Hadron apply to a curio once you're at max level, because it's still in the perk pool even after it's completely useless.

[primal aurora]

Any advice for how to use Force sword when crowded by a horde? With most weapons it is easy - block, shove, slash from shove, maintain block, shove slash, etc. But with force push on Force sword I get confused when to strike, should I force push or not and so on.

[plucky flax]

You need slaughterer.

[mossy surge]

with Ilissi sword, you can deal with a horde easily

especially with slaughter blessing

[hidden crystal]

Shove, shove, shove some more, then shove again until you can make your way out of the horde and can use your infinite dodges to get some space.

The force sword's regular shove is actually really good.

Very wide effect, and enough to inflict light stagger on trash enemies.

The push attack is only single target and won't do much to break you out of a horde, but it has enough impact to stagger a Crusher.

[primal aurora]

Push attack is only single target? Damn, why I never noticed?

I have this sword. It is tempting to replace Riposte with Deflector, but I have another sword with deflector.

[upper galleon]

You should replace riposte period

It's a really bad blessing

[primal aurora]

Really?

[upper galleon]

Yea

[primal aurora]

I suppose 2 sec isn't that much

[upper galleon]

Also it's dependent if the game counts your dodge as a dodge or not

And 20% crit chance isn't a lot

And I think if you wanted to go blazing spirit memes shred is better for that too

I recommend unstable power

But deflector is great defensive wise

One of the only defensive blessings that are great

[primal aurora]

I like deflector for healing downed teammates under fire

[hidden crystal]

Deflector doesn't work while rezzing. (Used to in early builds, but doesn't any more).

[primal aurora]

oh, damn

how important mobility on Force sword?

[hidden crystal]

These days, you swap to the "no weapon" state while rezzing - which is +4 Stamina, but won't give you any bonuses of your weapon.

[upper galleon]

Not really important you have infinite dodges

Having some helps, but you can dump it without worry

[mental rock]

many prefer to dump warp resistance and take unstable power though

[hidden crystal]

The problem with dumping Warp Res on an Illisi though is that the charged attack is really good and you want to use it as much as you can when horde clearing.

I've got kind of a dump Warp Res on mine, but that's partly because I want to be able to generate Peril for Quietitude.

[mental rock]

well sure but with unstable power+slaughterer you can just throw in non-specials and end up doing the same if not more dps

but I see what you mean

I do like to just spam special into a horde sometimes

[hidden crystal]

I somewhat miss the 79% Warp Res I had on the first one I used, because that was at least 8 charged attacks starting from zero peril (because usually by that point you'd've procced Battle Meditation once or twice and could go again), but its other stats weren't so great.

[dawn valve]

is that good?

[thorn cedar]

ye

could swap maniac for crit chance or carapace even

[dawn valve]

alright , thanks for tip

[plucky flax]

I deal with horde using mk5 duelling sword.

[mossy surge]

Just say knife

[gusty furnace]

I still don't know what everyone sees in the illisi

I'd give it like. . . a solid A rating

But everyone gushes about it like its gods greatest gift to mankind and is above rating

[plucky flax]

It is the best psyker melee weapon.

[gusty furnace]

Its a shittier power sword

Is what it is

That's not a bad thing, really.

But also not something to ignore the pretty big drawbacks of "Lol you can blow yourself up with it"

[plucky flax]

It's not as strong as power sword in term of power and damage dealing but it has much better mobility and utility (deflector).

[gusty furnace]

Like, the drawback on the power sword is that you're, I dunno, reliant on Power Cycler?

Bull Butcher Mk3 is dinkdinkdink off carapace armor.

[willow escarp]

Illisi way better than Powersword imo

[gusty furnace]

Yeah that's definitely not true.

[willow escarp]

and my PS has slaughter4 and pc4

[gusty furnace]

In the rankings of "All melee weapons" its a solid third place.

[willow escarp]

PS is very overrated tho

[gusty furnace]

1. BB Mk3

2. Power Sword

3. Illisi

then you have:

4. Heavy Sword Mk6/7/9

5. Antax mk5 and Rashad

And then everything else is way down below those 5

[willow escarp]

ranking of what

[gusty furnace]

6, 7, and 8 would probably be the Mk3b Basher Club, Mk 1 Bully Club, and Power Maul, respectively.

[willow escarp]

Horde clear?

[gusty furnace]

Comparing all melee weapons against each other in general useableness

[willow escarp]

yeah on that metric I just can’t put PS over illisi

mobility and survivability bonuses on illisi pull it ahead for me easily

[gusty furnace]

Considering the Power Sword does nearly everything better than the Illisi. . .

sounds like a fat skill issue

if you can't perform better with the power sword

[willow escarp]

lmao that’s the opposite of a skill issue lol

it does not do everything better for sure lol

[gusty furnace]

And you're not even reading what I'm writing

I didn't say everything

The Illisi has infinite dodges and deflector.

[willow escarp]

illisi has much more mobility, easy to wade through virtually any horde unscathed, knock over any threat

[gusty furnace]

But even with those, its still worse off than the power sword

Not by a lot

we're talking incredibly small margins here

[willow escarp]

I can stand at the edge of any mixed horde and spam special heavy and kill it without getting hit

[gusty furnace]

But noticeable ones

[willow escarp]

right and we just fundamentally disagree

[plucky flax]

Why are you comparing power sword with illisi though psyker can't use power sword. Like for psyker what's an overall stronger melee weapon than illisi?

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, and I can walk through any horde

[willow escarp]

Power sword is better on killing crushers

[gusty furnace]

with the power sword

[feral inlet]

devils claw

parry op

[plucky flax]

That's too op it's off the table.

[feral inlet]

true

[gusty furnace]

No, see, that's fine.

Illisi is the best psyker weapon

but I wouldn't rank it higher than power sword in overall rankings

Power Sword has 450 damage x 3

before slaughterer

~260 x 3 if you're using the mk6 with light attacks

Like, the Illisi just can't compete with this because Power Sword gets power cycler

You can chomp literally everything in the game with Power Sword

the only reason I put the BB mk3 above either is because it has no activation times.

And comes with a stun on demand on the punch

[gusty furnace]

I actually didn't realize the Power Sword had such staggering unyielding damage either

433 on a body shot is pretty solid

[naive sedge]

The illisi is honestly better than the power sword

Because

Infinite dodges

[plucky flax]

Solo clutching against a spawn + specials with power sword.

[broken carbon]

okay but consider this

illisi is cooler

soooooo

[raw swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1150116089548775475/odNW1WW.webm

[blazing echo]

But what do you need to dodge if its been cubed?

[spice veldt]

special-heavies clear 40 poxwalkers in half the time of the normal heavy combo

the ~1.5x damage bonus from warp unleashed and unstable power is not going to reach that

if you're not going to spam the special, why bother bringing the illisi when the Deimos exists

[gusty furnace]

How build

[fresh reef]

Terrifying Barrage has gotta go. Slap Warp Nexus over it

[indigo portal]

Terrifying Barrage < Warp Nexus imo.

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, warp nexus is just crit chance right?

Not particularly stellar

Maybe on bosses, I guess.

enough burn stacks might make the critical damage alright

Though I get the feeling that staffs are all just super straight forward

Warp Flurry and Go

Which makes their un-shared blessings even worse because all four of them use the same exact one

Grinding out curios for a fourth class is gonna make me go nuts though

Funny to be an all HP peskaker though, i guess

[indigo portal]

Crits apply two stacks of the burn.

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, but you can still only get up to 16 or whatever the max is right?

I guess getting there twice as fast is nice. . .

But not really meaningful in any way

[indigo portal]

It's not stellar but it is far better than Terrifying Barrage.

Something to note is that you're most likely not gonna hit 16 stacks with normal enemies. By having crits you'll do more damage to anything that wouldn't normally hit 16 stacks of burn.

[near wyvern]

Crit on purge is a global damage boost. The stacks from 0 to 10 have exponential scaling in damage and 10+ will have linear like (until 20). Your staff applies around 3 stacks per second so crits really amp up your damage.

[fresh reef]

Barrage on Purgatus is a waste of a slot. It already suppresses everything the cloud touches instantly

[indigo portal]

I put the wrong symbol, mb.

Dyslexic moment.

[fresh reef]

Felt that one

[gusty furnace]

Man, the thing holding me back now is gold income

Need to hop on ogryn and spam maelstrom missions

[gusty furnace]

Welp, considering there's only 4 blessings on staffs, shouldn't be too hard

just spam a shit ton out at brunts and hope for RNG

[timber cove]

i need to get a good roll for trauma and illisi atm

[gusty furnace]

only 5 more penances to go, and I have all the class penances done.

this is my illisi

just need to find slaughterer 4

and I can't be assed to find a better one for the sake of one perk

[timber cove]

yeah i loose alot of dockets on trying to earn blessings

[gusty furnace]

for how random brunts is, its too expensive

[timber cove]

is there a way to tell which mission you're missing cause im also on 6/7

[gusty furnace]

That or gold income on damnation/maelestrom needs to be doubled

Nope

[timber cove]

rip

[gusty furnace]

Fatshark made the mission stickers global

before they made the economy global

[timber cove]

i have 900k cos saving up for commisary armor atm

but after that im splooging it all on tryna get better weps n curios

[gusty furnace]

I don't think any of them look particularly good.

[timber cove]

I dont really know what curious are decent overall i just take random crap

[gusty furnace]

The desert armor for veteran/ogryn is okay

but the veteran heresy boots look awful to me so it kills that whole outfit

[timber cove]

not sure which ones you mean

[gusty furnace]

The metal booties

that look like galoppers

that you'd wear when fishing

[timber cove]

Oooh those yeah

I like being an armored up geezer so dont bother me much

[gusty furnace]

They're just not particularly well made for human anatomy

which is what bothers me

Not really a whole lot of movement available in the ankle when considering foward bending

Totally doesn't matter for gameplay But it still bothers me

[gusty furnace]

Like when trying to raise your toes to your knee

[timber cove]

I rly want the big armor for ogryns that actually covers some skin i think its from store

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, the palagryn set

That's what we call it in ogryn chat

Its definitely the best cosmetic in the game

[timber cove]

ye

[gusty furnace]

Super stupid that Fatshark rotates out old cosmetics

such a shitty, arbitrary decision.

[timber cove]

itd be nice if they had the armor for the picture of game on steam

[gusty furnace]

I guess that'd fuel FOMO

so I'm surprised they don't do that.

"Here's all these cool cosmetic sets. You can't get them now(Probably WHY they don't advertise them out of the game), but you can at some point"

I do have to say, Psyker's gameplay loop is so god damn annoying

[timber cove]

wdym

[gusty furnace]

I'm using this level 30 feat

so literally all I hear all the time is "COME HERE LITTLE ONE"

and whatever other noisy garbage from being at 80-100 peril at all times

Solid feat, I actually really like it more than the other two.

Seems to fit my gameplay style the most(Incredible patience that borders on folley), but jesus the peril noises could be toned down by about 99.99%

[vestal rose]

I found my brain started totally filtering the noises and visuals out a couple hundred hours ago

i think you either start ignoring it or your head explodes irl

[spice veldt]

I just have the peril fx set to 33%

good balance between it being quiet and me not dying from forgetting that I'm at high peril

[vestal rose]

you can't be doing that, sibling

it stunts your abilities

[timber cove]

embrace the voices for maxium Roleplay value

[spice veldt]

I've been owned too many times by dogs at 100% peril

just because I couldn't hear them

[lunar hollow]

bro has like 8 different ui elements for his peril and still blows himself up greeding in hordes

[spice veldt]

it's Psyker rp

[vestal rose]

sounds like he needs more

[gusty furnace]

This is the only legitimate drawback to kinetic deflection that I can notice

[lunar hollow]

i cant continue this conversation because anything i say will be countered by you typing "ogryn rp" into your streamable and pulling up one of like 10 clips of me doing or saying something incomprehensibly stupid

[gusty furnace]

I'm out here spending my ult to get a berjillion BBs

doesn't leave any room for mistakes for anything else

[naive sedge]

It feels like the best ult for boss dmg

[gusty furnace]

That's uh. . . that's because it is

[naive sedge]

One ult cycle from me and a bolter vet and the boss is at 20% hp

[gusty furnace]

I've had level 30 for like 3 hours and I could tell you that

[spice veldt]

we're going to see a lot more psyker's blow themselves up with the new ults, if they don't provide a way to vent

[gusty furnace]

just hold r 4head

its that ez

[lunar hollow]

me telling my psychic shield about all my personal problems

[fluid crescent]

which curio do you use guys ? Hp ? shield ? bar ?

[gusty furnace]

I have 3x 20% hp

and 3x Gunner resist

[spice veldt]

I'd probably run HP if starting out

[gusty furnace]

and 3x 5% toughness

3x random perks I had no control over

[fluid crescent]

ok, atm i've 2x hp and 1x shield but not sure about usefullness of it^^

[spice veldt]

it's the safer option when you're getting dinked by snipers and bursters and whatnot

[gusty furnace]

I'm uh

I'm just a monkey

[spice veldt]

I personally like my toughness

[vestal rose]

i played like three games of veteran and got converted to the toughness crowd all over again

[gusty furnace]

I have ~1000 hours in the other three classes

so I'm already used to just spending HP as a resource

[fluid crescent]

I had 3x sniper res a few time ago lol

[steel egret]

3x21% HP and 3x17% toughness.

[gusty furnace]

3x sniper res, 3x gunner res, 3x HP/Tough/Toughness Regen

is generally the safest option for all 4 classes

[fluid crescent]

lol ?

[steel egret]

?

[vestal rose]

also do people laugh at you if you take 2x toughness on veteran
i feel like they should but it amuses me

[steel egret]

I only use toughness on gunker build.

[gusty furnace]

I think I run 2x HP 1x Tough on veteran

[plucky flax]

I run max hp stacking and 3x sniper resist

[gusty furnace]

because snipers/bursters

[steel egret]

but usually its 3x21% HP.

[gusty furnace]

Veteran doesn't really need toughness at all

but it does add up during counterfire/unwavering focus shenanigans

another 30 toughness is uh

how do you do EHP math

basically its another ~60-90 toughness with Unwavering Focus up

from one toughness curio

[spice veldt]

I stack toughness on vet cuz I like to melee ranged patrols

[vestal rose]

i dont have unwavering focus up as vet because my ultimate button is just for reloading my revolver

[gusty furnace]

Yeah I run counterfire/unwavering focus on everything

The two reload feats take care of bolter's reload time

and should take care of revolvers

[steel egret]

I have not seen the math on it so I dont know which is better.

[spice veldt]

I usually save my ult up except for the moments where I need it, since I run TBTA

[plucky flax]

I run double reload feats + sustain fire with bolter.

[gusty furnace]

I run TBTA during monster maelstrom

and bring out my bolter or helbore mk3

[lunar hollow]

yeah same its just when i run autopistol i always need my ult because i have to kill everything on the screen

3 back to back 1 minute volleyfires baby

[spice veldt]

I always run TBTA so that I can chain off of Ogryn's and for general ammo efficiency

[lunar hollow]

this body is a machine that turns ammo into dead shooter patrols

[gusty furnace]

I call them pods

stupid xcom

and your stupid linguistics

[spice veldt]

and dead psykers

[lunar hollow]

well who's problem is that

ur the one who called me not a psyker main

[naive sedge]

woah woah lets cool it with the un-witch hunting

[gusty furnace]

I'm sad that Darktide has no psyker enemies

Even Spacehulk Deathwing has psyker enemies

And you're fighting tyrannids there

and they added in psyker enemies

[indigo portal]

I like stacking toughness on Vet because I can enjoy having 1328 Toughness w/ 332 toughness regen'd over 5 seconds.

[gusty furnace]

Also kinda funny that Darktide Psyker is objectively better than Deathwing Librarian

Though having Blackhole as an ability on psyker would be great

Press F

everything gets sucked into a black hole

horde gone

[granite mauve]

dt psyker ennemie concept : can target you from anywhere, you die instantly from his attack, it locks onto you like brainburst

[gusty furnace]

That's uh

kinda what the genestealer psyker was in deathwing

[indigo portal]

Sounds like the netrunners from Cyberpunk, ass enemy design.

[gusty furnace]

They could BB you

Obviously it wasn't called Brainburst in Deathwing

but its the same function

High damage, ranged, can be used around cover

ignored damage reduction from armor perks

Even used the same effect

Well, Fatshark copied the effect from Deathwing would be my guess. Or. . . took inspiration from

[granite mauve]

deathwing was this game's prototype

deathwing walked so we could jog

[gusty furnace]

Deathwing had better flamers

that's all I'm gonna say

That's about all it had going for it though

[granite mauve]

yeah but dt flamer still slaps

when it comes to video game flamethrowers

[gusty furnace]

Oh yeah, for actual damage, DT flamer is super OP

comparatively speaking.

[naive sedge]

and blinding your teammates

[gusty furnace]

Hits like a semi-truck compared to DW flamer

And this was the thing that killed Deathwing, I'm pretty sure. On top of all of the other issues, none of the Space Marine weapons actually did any damage.

[granite mauve]

i hate games where there's a flamethrower and it just sucks

like an ennemy being engulfed in flames CANNOT fight back

he is in immense pain

fuck balancing

[gusty furnace]

I mean, the devs who made Deathwing:

1. Had very little experience making video games

2. Treated the game like an art-deco piece more than a game

3. Wanted to base the game's loop around lore-tyrannids, not gameplay tyrannids

Point 3 is what killed the game imo

[granite mauve]

everyone knows the rule of cool

[naive sedge]

I wouldn't analyse the Streumonic method too closely

[granite mauve]

but i think everyone should know the rule of gameplay

gameplay first when it comes to game

nuff said

[gusty furnace]

what the hell does this even mean

Google pops up something about E.Y.E

and a bunch of reddit posts

and that's it

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, which seems to be what Space Marine 2 is doing.

I wish I weren't poor. That game would be a day 1 buy for me.

[granite mauve]

lore is like

second

[gusty furnace]

Just to honor Total Biscuit

let alone supporting a good game

[granite mauve]

when it comes to wh games

[gusty furnace]

RIP John Bane(Baine?)

Games got suddenly worse without you around

[naive sedge]

They made Deathwing and that necromunda FPS

and asking why they make the choices they do is difficult

maddening even

[gusty furnace]

Ah, that tracks.

[steel egret]

My legs are OK game, its pretty funny.

[fluid crescent]

Sry i was in game. Thanks all for ur advices about ur curio. Atm i've HPx3 + sniper res and gunner res. Seems to be more efficient^^

[gusty furnace]

Yeah its just super comfy

Opens up some mistakes you can make because you have more resources to spend so its less "On-The-Line" every time you get involved in a brawl

[gusty furnace]

its the perfect staff

The one of my dreams