psyker-class

[spice veldt]

yeah blaze away is pretty interesting on plasma at least

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/3lqsws

2 full charges to kill a mutie

vs bolter taking 2-3 shots

[lyric burrow]

Does it have low maniac damage or something it never deleted maniacs like i want it to

[lunar hollow]

the maniac damage aint great

its most apparent vs muties

[lyric burrow]

Its better than it used to be when a trapper would move its arm in front of its body and screw the damage over

[lunar hollow]

just remember

kant shotgun went through bulwark shields before plasma

[lyric burrow]

Yep

Bolter can still disable them

Which makes sense

But still another thing

[lunar hollow]

bolter takes 1 shot to open a bulwark shield in 99% of cases

it is painful how much more efficient it is than plasma

[spice veldt]

the unusual thing is that the LMB is more damage efficient per ammo than the RMB

the chaos spawn is the one exception I've found

[lyric burrow]

I only rmb crushers and whatnot for that reason

Charged shot depletes ammo

[spice veldt]

yeah, at a distance, you can't two-shot crushers with TBTA volley so the RMB is nice for that

[lunar hollow]

im p sure u can 1 shot a mutie with hb3

but u cant with plasma

[lyric burrow]

Probably

Esp with VF

[spice veldt]

and trying to two-shot bulwarks with tbta volley can be unreliable, whereas an RMB generally does one-shot them (maybe not without sniper)

[lunar hollow]

and they take the same ammo per charged shot (which is even worse since hb3 has WAY more ammo)

[spice veldt]

i suppose fatshark puts a lot of weight into being able to shoot through bulwark shields

which is fair

but eh

[lyric burrow]

Las guns are balanced very weirdly

I get they shoot more than one bullet per laser

But they have infinite ammo on vet and still a shitton on everyone else

Even the mk4 i never run out of ammo on despite shooting multiple shots per kill

[unreal wasp]

I love For the Emperor. Specifically using the "No!" keybind after certain voicelines.

[steel flame]

christ

servers are absolute shit tonight

[lyric burrow]

What issues are you having

Only played one game earlier

[steel flame]

lag, disconnects, so much input latency after rejoining after a server boot

[lyric burrow]

Damn

That sucks

[steel flame]

yeah....ive got hardlin internet and i usually have no issues

but sometimes the severs are just the worst

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i really wish this games servers were better

Like i cant complain that much cause hitreg is the worst issue i deal with (minus the game aborting that came with this patch)

But when the gameplay is so good you really feel the random lack of hitreg

[unreal wasp]

Hrm, me realize I can just use the Surge Staff as a taser to get in close with melee and not actually kill with it

[ruby plover]

thats like its only purpose lil homie

[unreal wasp]

Still can't find a staff I like, only really used the Surge when I was levelling and to get Keep Your Distance. Tried Trauma Staff, don't like it. Tried Voidstrike, it's just the M1 but a bigger hitbox and goes boom, would rather use a gun. Haven't tried Purgatus, I don't want a ranged weapon that fills the same role as my melee weapon.

Revolver and Mk1 Inf are really the only ranged weapons I like using.

[lyric burrow]

Deimos/purg can fix the melee horde clear issue (although it horde clears well anyway tbh)

[unreal wasp]

Am using an Illisi mainly for my horde clear, mainly wanting a single target ranged weapon that activates more quickly than Brain Burst (Which is why I primarily use guns)

I STILL use Brain Burst even though I use a gun, but mainly on Ogryn and Monstrosities. Gunners that are suppressing me too hard as well.

[indigo portal]

If I ever want a quick single target DPS ranged weapon on Psyker I use the Laspistol. Has a 10% peril push attack for the special so you can keep Warp Unleashed up too. You need to be able to hit headshots though.

[unreal wasp]

May need to try the las pistol then

[indigo portal]

The push is outstandingly good at clowning on poxbursters too. Unfortunately you cannot quell with the laspistol out so you need to manage it while juggling it.

[unreal wasp]

Eeeeh, whenever I use my Illisi I don't even quell

Main time I quell is to repeatedly use brain burst

Would probably not actually use the Laspistol push AS a push unless it comes out way faster than force sword push and just use it as a damage primer

[potent echo]

The laspistol push is kind of stumpy and slow from the 2 times I've used it, does it have some special utility? Like being able to knock down bulwarks or smth

[unreal wasp]

Mainly didn't realize there was already a gun with baked in psyker synergy

My game crashed the first mission I went in with it, I am being told not to use it

[indigo portal]

Are you talking about the peril push or the normal push Vet and Zealot get? The peril push does alright stagger against targets up to a medium range.

[unreal wasp]

Ignore the threats

[potent echo]

Need to try it again

[indigo portal]

It doesn't stagger bulwarks sadly. It launches normal Rager off their feet though.

It's one of the few ranged weapons that can be used near shooters without needing to dance around with dodges since you can stun them repeatedly.

[potent echo]

Seems to have a much bigger effect on ragers more than anything

[steel flame]

Well actually. Surge staff has a shitload of kill power, it's just all tied up in the m1. If you can get quell canceling down pat (r after every cast, letting you spam the m1 extremely fast) you can melt shit like butter. If youve got max crit and damage stat, nexus and 5% crit chance you've got almost 50% crit chance and your crits are doing 500 a pop

[unreal wasp]

Do you get toughness back for regular melee kills as Psyker? I'm trying to figure out what is making my toughness regen so fast when I'm NOT using the warp attack on Illisi

[steel flame]

Are you using fire?

[unreal wasp]

No

[steel flame]

Are you using warp absorb or quietude

[unreal wasp]

Warp Absorption

[potent echo]

On regular melee kills, psykers only get 5% toughness back

Vet is the only special one that gets 7.5%

[unreal wasp]

Ah, didn't know you got toughness back at all just for getting melee kills

Don't think my Ogryn ever did

[potent echo]

All classes get 5% per kill

Except vet as mentioned

[steel flame]

Illi kills a lot of things really really fast that 5% adds up

[unreal wasp]

Even the basic attack with max damage and first target kills hordes fairly quickly

[olive ember]

WA and Quietitude both work with illi

but i know zealot just runs EWEW no matter what basically

every other toughness perk just kinda blows in comparison iirc

[unreal wasp]

Mainly use WA because every time I cleave into a horde with a warp attack I get all of my toughness back

[potent echo]

Yea it's great

[steel flame]

I like warp absorb on my fire void and fire trauma. Once I get a good fire going my regen just outpaces all the damage

[meager plinth]

true true

[steel flame]

I prefer quietude on most of my other builds minus gun builds that want siphon

[unreal wasp]

+49% damage to guns (all damage) just for using my Psyker kit

[potent echo]

Can't wait for some kind of unchained subclass melee powerhouse

[unreal wasp]

Feel like Psykinetic with Illisi is already a melee powerhouse. Maybe not a single target oneshot powerhouse like Zealot with TH but still.

[potent echo]

Imagine illisi with a 30% attack speed boost scaling with peril

[unreal wasp]

If it also made the warp attack charge faster

[indigo portal]

Illisi Gunker is just a Psword Vet but with magic evil demon powers instead of raw ammo and munitions.

[potent echo]

Except you can't press F and win

[unreal wasp]

I have been called out and it's the truth

Enforcer gaming

[indigo portal]

You can press F and use your cooler Psword more though. Also light enemies on fire if you use that.

[steel flame]

As much as I like my gunker builds my fire void and surge builds still tend to beat them out on auric missions. on my pitching machine surge build, I can keep my peril pegged past 80 with m1 spam and the occasional lightning to stun stuff before I melt it more m1 spam and sometimes some melee and the Regen is at the point where I've gone a few auric maelstrom missions having only taken 65-100 don my pitching machine surge build, I can keep my peril pegged past 80 with m1 spam and the occasional lightning to stun stuff before I melt it more m1 spam and sometimes some melee and the Regen is at the point where I've gone a few auric maelstrom missions having only taken 65-100 damage in a match amage in a match

[unreal wasp]

Wait, nuhuh, me powers come from da Emprah, not no stinky demons

[indigo portal]

Sure thing little stinky demon power user.

[unreal wasp]

If Emprah becomes Chaos God and kills the other Chaos Gods, this statement is inherently true

[willow escarp]

ascendant blaze tho

[potent echo]

Cool but you need to get in close and 6 charges for maximum effect, v fun

But playing as vet I just go out into the open press F and start shooting anything yellow

[willow escarp]

it’s got pretty long range? and hilariously the fire can regen the stacks for you. and with communion you just get fed stacks

[indigo portal]

Having 6 charges is so easy and I'm pretty sure it covers like 20 meters minimum.

[steel flame]

I'm glad some people can stand to play vet. It puts me to sleep with only needing to manage ammo

[willow escarp]

but yeah volley fire is definitely strong

[steel flame]

It's so boring playing vet Zzzzz

[willow escarp]

yeah it’s so weird vet is so popular

[unreal wasp]

Yea, even when I'm not using Brain Burst I easily get 6 charges from Communion + Quicken

[steel flame]

Mindless shooting is fun for many people

[willow escarp]

hopefully they clean up some of the boring and no effort blessings like slaughterer/pinning fire etc and bolter/psword vet spam can chill

[steel flame]

My ADHD brain likes having 40 things to manage at once so I'm incompatible with vet

[mellow gorge]

Pinning fire is so egregious

[unreal wasp]

Me prefer mindful shooting. When my friend refuses to NOT constantly shoot into hordes with an autogun (unless we're at the end of a mission) I feel pain.

[gusty furnace]

Is this like. . . a joke

or do you seriously believe that

[willow escarp]

almost all of the meta blessings just need to be removed from the game and replaced lol

[gusty furnace]

1. Good at everything

2. Infinite Usefulness

3. Gun go bopbopbop

[willow escarp]

the context is that vet is boring to play in a game with actually fun characters

yes he’s good at shooting things

[gusty furnace]

Its a perfect storm of being overpowered, having a few different builds, and his best guns being so overpoweringly good

Oh, he's not just good at shooting things

He can melee too

Power Sword and Combat Axes see to that.

[willow escarp]

yeah he can melee but so can everyone

[steel flame]

Or before we remove the only decent things in the game...hear me out....Fix the useless stuff first

[gusty furnace]

Atlas is correct.

[indigo portal]

Wouldn't mind Vets running Boltgun if they actually used it properly. They have an Ogryn deletion machine that has the added effect of accurately killing almost every enemy in the game and they use it to mag dump a horde, primary spam shotgunners, and to overkill standalone shooters that were in melee range of other people.

[gusty furnace]

Problem weapons need to be nerfed, pronto.

And you're also right.

Problem weapons need to be buffed, pronto.

Those problems are just on opposite ends of the spectrum.

[broken quail]

Not everyone gets so much toughness to help melee though

[gusty furnace]

Ideally, Fatshark would do a complete weapon overhaul all at once.

Instead of just nerfing things, then in another patch buffing them.

[willow escarp]

meh, I don’t think they’re decent. The blessings are literally just “use weapon, they get OP”. there’s not even any mechanics behind them

[mellow gorge]

add more guns without fixing anything

[willow escarp]

but yea that’s what I mean, an overhaul

[unreal wasp]

Seeing as to how I melee hordes when I use bolter or ag shotgun, Vet is good enough at melee. You just have to not get hit, toss a nade when you're getting overwhelmed, etc etc

[willow escarp]

they have some blessings that are interesting and can actually have some mechanics and implications in a build. but then there’s these ones that are just massive buffs with literally no downside nor and mechanic needed to enable them

[gusty furnace]

Bleed blessings are universally ass

They could be interesting.

[willow escarp]

yeah bleed and crit and stuff

[gusty furnace]

But fatshark has made bleed literally pointless.

[mellow gorge]

change power sword to be a bunch of stabs instead and watch as vets die to a single poxwalker

[broken quail]

Power sword is weirdly good at killing mutants, maulers, and every special when its already so overpowered for horde clear. Heck it can even kill crushers pretty easy thanks to the powered hits stunning em on headshots, giving plenty of time for more hits

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, and the way crit damage is mathed under the hood kills all but one crit build in the game, and that's the Laspistol of all things.

[willow escarp]

Things like blazing spirit are the sort of direction that would be cool. Taking some cues from like DRG overclocks

[gusty furnace]

100 something unarmored damage

500 crit damage

[steel flame]

Blessings rn are either, Here have free damage, or they are, here complete a dance on one leg on a Tuesday under a full moon while it is snowing in Texas for 5% more crit chance

[unreal wasp]

Being good enough to survive in melee as Vet (even when not using a PC4 Power Sword) brings you a step closer to getting this

[gusty furnace]

So 5% of 400 is 20 more damage, and that's STILL not good.

[indigo portal]

Force Swords get some good crit stuff too but sadly it has [+100% POWER SLAUGHTERER] so it can't do much with it lol.

[gusty furnace]

You wanna focus on buffing the amount of crits you do get, not buffing the damage of them.

Which is fucking stupid.

[mellow gorge]

this was one of the more stressful things to do early one imo

when there was a lot more jank in game

[gusty furnace]

I got that with heavy sword on zealot

during the hacking section of Chasm Logistratum

[unreal wasp]

Got it playing Ogryn

[gusty furnace]

I just jumped into a horde of poxwalkers in the foyer

in front of hadron's minigame console

and whoops I got it

OH

Flawless Execution

[unreal wasp]

So easy to solo survive as Ogryn if you use gorgon stubber

[gusty furnace]

I was thinking the dodge one

I got Flawless Execution on damnation between all three characters

Zealot, Veteran and Ogryn

[indigo portal]

In an ideal world +power blessings get eradicated and weapons that rely on it get buffs to their power to compensate so it's got some strength to it. 90% of them reward you for just using the weapon as a weapon, and all 100% of them make balancing weapons braindead because you have to balance a weapon for a blessing that not everyone is gonna get, or you balance weapons together while ignoring the fact that it gets the +power stuff (or a mix of both teehee).

[unreal wasp]

Could technically swap Def4 for Unstable4 on my new Illisi that has Slaught4 but deflector is just more valuable personally than 5% more power

[indigo portal]

It's +% per 20% of peril.

[unreal wasp]

On my old one I would've had to swap Def4 for Slaught4 which would've been an easier but still difficult choice personally

[indigo portal]

So that blessing can give you +25% power while at max peril.

[willow escarp]

yeah exactly. the fact that stuff like headtaker, slaughter, even confident strike are just “use weapon” and have very strong effects basically means you have to intentionally decide you want a dramatically weaker weapon to do anything else

[unreal wasp]

Wha- huh? It says up to +5% though? That wording is terrible, up to means maximum.

[indigo portal]

It's a Fatshark description. It lies

[unreal wasp]

[steel flame]

It's 20% damage max

[willow escarp]

yeah that’s like fire frenzy I think that also doesn’t say “up to 5 stacks” or anything

[steel flame]

Wish it was 25%

Alas

[unreal wasp]

Hnnnngh

[indigo portal]

It's 5 stacks at 90% peril, no? Or did they change it?

[spice veldt]

20/40/60/80% peril thresholds

4 stacks max

[indigo portal]

Ah ok.

[steel flame]

Unstable caps at 80% peril with 20% damage

Damit arcto

Stealing my thunder

[spice veldt]

i'm pro

[unreal wasp]

That means with Unstable 4 and Slaught4 I MIGHT hit breakpoints on oneshotting ragers but then me no block boolit

[indigo portal]

You can just check with this. https://dt.wartide.net/calc/

[steel flame]

Easy, just block them with your face instead

[willow escarp]

Deimos can 1shot ragers correct?

[unreal wasp]

Why is this true

[steel flame]

H2 with a few warp charges and peril

Ragers go poof

[willow escarp]

such a satisfying animation and sfx

[steel flame]

Don't even need the special

[willow escarp]

oh so without special?

[spice veldt]

l1 deals 2x damage, and h2 deals 2.5x damage

[willow escarp]

Don’t think I’ve ever tried lol, always special L1 them

[indigo portal]

I've 1 shot both ragers with H2, I think I've even 1 shot mutants with it.

[plucky flax]

I 1 shot everything in sedition.

[indigo portal]

I would hope so

[pale basalt]

schwing

\

jeeze copy pasta

[violet fiber]

Got a really weird roll. Wanted to know if it's worth it to work with this

[blazing echo]

If you check its stats (V i think) and hover mouse over stat youll see more nfo

[violet fiber]

I'm more concerned if the low crit bonus is detrimental or not

[blazing echo]

Check where I told you then

Not sure what the dump stat is on force staffs

Sadly I suspect its warp res or quell speed

[blazing echo]

Hmm now Im not sure how reliant the warp staffs are for crit builds. You might have a good roll there.
Thats half the problem now you have to brave the consecrations and hope Hadron feels giving

[remote solstice]

IM SO EXCITED FOR SKILL TREES :D

[gilded radish]

Same

[remote solstice]

I'm going to be so ravenous

Only reason I am playing right meow is because I want to have levels ready to explore the tree, I wonder if respeccing will be a thing

[regal jasper]

Hi psykers

[remote solstice]

hello zealot

[regal jasper]

Oh yeah ig that is my name rn

Im not actually a zealot thank nurgle

[remote solstice]

what the fuck

[gilded radish]

Likely since there are 3 different path ways per class

[regal jasper]

I main psyker but im a devout Nurgle follower

[remote solstice]

Give me my gravity psyker shit >:D

[gilded radish]

I just saw the dome in the update i want the dome

[remote solstice]

My first ever big experience with Warhammer is a Dark Heresy campaign I got to join as a Tech Priest and our Psyker fucking killed everyone by accidentally reversing gravity in a miles radius when trying to heal a gunshot I took

The dome? :0

[gilded radish]

Warp dome

[remote solstice]

Warp dome.. :0

[regal jasper]

Shards

[remote solstice]

Oh hi zealot

[regal jasper]

I cant wait for shards

[remote solstice]

I forgot about you

[regal jasper]

Hello again

[regal jasper]

):

[gilded radish]

L

[remote solstice]

:) it ok i rember you now

[regal jasper]

That happens alot dw

Thats new

[gilded radish]

They need ricochet

[regal jasper]

I just hope they look cool ngl

I don’t care about stats

If its perty i like it

Thats why im a shieldgryn when i do use him

[remote solstice]

I love being in this server because I never really know what people are talking about, I just know I like head popping scab snipers

[regal jasper]

Rn im gonna kick my friends ass in smash

[gilded radish]

I like shield ogryns, feel extra protected

[regal jasper]

Used spirits and my dk can now kill at 20%

[regal jasper]

Exactly

My ogryn is very handsome and he needs to make sure his face is never harmed

[gilded radish]

But most of the time iam protecting them since bad players keep ending up in damnation

[regal jasper]

Im scared to touch anything higher cuz i don’t have friends

[gilded radish]

What difficulty you play?

[regal jasper]

Mainly malice

[remote solstice]

Fixed B3

[gilded radish]

I can play with you, if you want

[remote solstice]

Same here!

[regal jasper]

Its like 2 am for me lol

But im down next time im not busy

[remote solstice]

That sucks, get on

[gilded radish]

Later

[remote solstice]

We will make you a martyr :D

[regal jasper]

Im playing smash rn

[remote solstice]

Oh my bad

I understand

[regal jasper]

Its all good lol

Im totally down for later tho

[gilded radish]

Why at 2 am

[regal jasper]

Showing my friend spirit builds

[gilded radish]

Oh

Ok

[gilded radish]

Mind if i add you?

[regal jasper]

Oh go ahead

[gilded radish]

I did it

[remote solstice]

Bamn new friend group gg we won boys

Our fourth shall be the voices

Psyker gang Psyker gang

[regal jasper]

Psyker gang

[gilded radish]

Psyker gang

I'll be on later

At somepoint

[gilded radish]

Can i add you too?

[remote solstice]

YES!

[empty onyx]

Wow, I never realized just how big the range of Ascendant Blaze is.

[gilded radish]

is it BIG?

[magic hull]

melk staff worth to buy?

[lyric burrow]

nah

charge rate too low +3 bad things

[spice veldt]

the crit bonus primarily benefits the LMB bolt, which has fairly high crit damage multipliers
if you're not using the LMB that much, then it's fine

[lyric burrow]

charge rate is one of the key stats on trauma

[empty onyx]

Just checked in the Psykhanium, the outermost range seems to be 30m.

Based on my tests Ascendant Blaze seems to burn everything within a 30m long 45° cone.

Plus everything affected by the normal push area.

[gilded radish]

the psykhanium makes every small

[empty onyx]

Hm?

[spice oar]

Does anyone know what The loner is refferring to when he ults and says "BY THE FIVE"

[empty onyx]

The Ubersreik Five?

[spice oar]

I genuinely want to know

[unreal wasp]

They mention 5 Rusty Spires as well. Could be the Chaos Gods (including Malice OR the Emperor depending on what time Darktide is taking place as one of the things Guilliman is trying to do is stop the Emperor from becoming a warp entity/Chaos God).

[spice oar]

are the rusty spires like an actual thing in lore or just a metaphor?

[empty onyx]

Aparently one of the other Psykers also talks about dreaming of a twisted fortress with spires.

[lyric burrow]

I was just doing that mode

Fun af but insane

[hollow current]

I wish Auric Maelstrom was always that modifier.

[hidden crystal]

One suggestion is that they may be of Necromundan descent, as there is a city there with five spires...

But given that Loner does occasionally fourth wall break (arguing with the subtitles about whether they said "foreshortened lifespans" or "four shortened lifespans"), "By the Five" could still just be a VT reference and the stuff about spires may or may not be playing off that.

[spice oar]

seems like the most likely reason yeah

[mellow gorge]

Wish I was home to try it

[zealous sierra]

Still can't find blaze on trauma

[steel egret]

Took me over 500 hours to get surge on void.

I think I do have blaze III for Trauma

[steel flame]

I've had blaze trauma and void for ages but surge void still eludes me

[steel egret]

got it on melk temp store.

was like 3200 coins.

[spice veldt]

fucking vet glances a burster with his plasma as it leaps and I couldn't knock it because of the stagger immunity it got

what is with it with people using weapons that they don't understand

[mellow gorge]

Why is it people shoot them at all, unless you know you can kill it while it's staggered away from yhr group

[golden frigate]

i had a lobby today with 3 vets, got killed twice because of them shooting bursters when I was pushing them.. at least they didn't flame me, which is sadly not a given

[mellow gorge]

When I have trauma staff I'll use it on them, usually it's a ohk from a really safe distance

[golden frigate]

yeah same, void gets them on their back with a low charge shot as well

opening them up for BB or just pewpews

[lyric burrow]

Wouldn't most weapons trigger push immunity because of how stagger works

[mellow gorge]

Depends on the weapon

A brauto is going to trigger stagger immunity way faster than say an MG12

[lyric burrow]

How much stagger actually triggers it

I figured it was pretty much any amount

Cause flamer/purg messes with them so hard

[mellow gorge]

iirc it was hard to test stagger, as it's tied to a variety of things and each enemy had different tiers of stagger and thresholds vary between them

[gusty furnace]

I'm about 500% sure that fatshark removed that

Because it was unmitigated bullshit

But my personal experience has been >accidentally dump a few rounds into the burster with bolter, swap to melee and push it away

I'm pretty sure the shove immunity is donezo on bursters

[spice veldt]

yeah, though the plasmagun has a larger hitbox so you'd have to be more careful if a burster is remotely near your reticle

[thorn cedar]

last i tested, and this was maybe like, four+ months ago, bursters reset their stagger count when they leap, and you no longer need anything beyond a push -- not a push with X# of stamina bars, just a push -- to push them back

but if you hit them after they jump in that small window they can still pick up stagger stacks

[spice veldt]

yeah that small window still exists

much better than before at least

[thorn cedar]

peeps with flamethrowers seem to have the hardest time figuring it out from what ive seen, anecdotally

they'll hose them down during their entire run up and then try to left click at the last second and it doesnt work out cause their last projectiles are still hitting them
(also i have no idea how fire ticks work for staggering, i assume it does none by itself)

[olive ember]

if they did then it was def a hidden change, what they said they did was that when bursters leap they automatically reset their stagger immunity, so you would need someone to do enough stagger to trigger its stagger immunity during its leap animation before you push

[hidden crystal]

I found what seems to be a really good revolver base, so if I really wanted to put together the joke build of "hide behind deflector to line up a headshot, then quickdraw the revolver and nail enemies in the head", what are the preferred revolver perks/blessings?

(Alternatively, that may simply not work once suppression is a concern. I can't remember if you can get suppressed while deflector is active).

[mental rock]

Well if you want to use it for strictly quickdraws then point blank+speedload would probably be your best bet

[gusty furnace]

Flak Maniac

all of the blessings suck ass

[thorn cedar]

they dont all suck but none of them are slaughterer or pinning fire levels of ridiculous

crucian/point blank/speedload are the only ones that get you semi-reliable mileage

but it doesnt matter since a revolver with two good perks is 90% of its output

[gusty furnace]

The fact that it doesn't have ~425 unarmored damage at 80% makes the whole weapon dead on arrival for me

[thorn cedar]

oh i guess trickshooter isnt completely meme-worthy now that it actually has a duration + can be max stacked

[gusty furnace]

5 shots and you're telling me that I need two to kill a dreg stalker?

What the actual fuck fatshark

[thorn cedar]

wut

stalkers are 400hp

[gusty furnace]

And 395 is the max damage roll on revolver

[thorn cedar]

are we looking at the same revolver

the one that says 420

which is a wonderful number i gotta say

you did used to have to run unarmored if you wanted to kill stalkers on top of having a max damage roll, and that sucked

what still sucks is that forearms are the strongest armor type in the game and these fuckers practically wrap their arms around their heads when they aim

[gusty furnace]

sorry, its at 18.5 meters that the revolver loses the one-shot BP

[thorn cedar]

am always shootin' the dick

[gusty furnace]

And considering the maps just keep getting bigger and bigger

[thorn cedar]

okay but add even one warp charge and now it's fine. emperor's executioner also makes up a chunk of that. vet volley fire speaks for itself

[gusty furnace]

Vet Volley fire is stupid

Not worth mentioning because it completely warps every gun's BPs

[thorn cedar]

lmao steam just recommended me Back 4 Blood. That game is still eighty fucking dollars

unbelievable

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, Forearms are a simple ~50% damage reduction or something like that.

[thorn cedar]

yeah full-on 50%, really goddamn annoying

[gusty furnace]

The fact that bolter doesn't ignore arms actually pisses me off.

Plasma Gun does now, which is neat.

Though I was still around when that change happened.

But Bolter not is actually aggravating.

Along with Revolver.

[thorn cedar]

anything with enough cleave to penetrate the target hit should just not be getting forearm blocked

that i can hit a dude in the forearm but he lives while five of his buddies behind him die just doesnt make sense

[gusty furnace]

I'm pretty sure both mechanics are tied together, arms and bulwark shield

which is why plasma gun got the whole shebang

but bolter and revolver didn't

But that's just wild supposition

[hidden crystal]

It's weird the extent to which warp charges and warp unleashed completely muck with the breakpoints on a lot of guns.

Sure, +34% isn't the +50% of volley fire, but it's never on cooldown and doesn't need you to get kills on specific enemy types to chain it.

[thorn cedar]

it's what makes gunpsyker work

[hidden crystal]

That's as I understand it. The Bulwark's shield is a hitbox with a x0 damage multiplier (essentially cancelling any attack that hits it), and they just changed the plasma gun to ignore all hit location multipliers. (So I think the plasma gun now gets no bonus from headshots, but the upside is no damage reduction from hitting arms).

(Still got to give credit to the zealot I was paired with a few days back who tagged a bulwark, waited for my brainburst to stagger it, then blasted the thing with their bolter while its shield was aside).

[unreal wasp]

I'm really unsure if I'm going to end up using the other Psyker Blitz

Feel like I'm going to lose a LOT of boss damage if I do

Brain Burst is just so good for free ranged boss damage

Feel like the Shards MIGHT be good for a boss if they're basically a barrage of smart bullets but then I may lose damage on Crushers and Bulwark stunning

[indigo portal]

I feel like BB will remain the best option for blitzing a boss to death since we don't know whether or not the shards will just lock onto a closer enemy and use up damage before it even reaches the boss. Plus you can presumably get Cerebral Lacerations and Kinetic Barrage without crippling your build in other aspects.

[unreal wasp]

Even at max peril and 6 warp charges, I'm fairly certain my Uns4 Slaught4 Illisi doesn't do damage to bosses as quickly as brain burst (and I have to put myself in melee range)

Slaught 4 wouldn't technically matter for a boss necessarilly because there may not be other enemies around

[spice veldt]

illisi is probably equivalent if you special-heavy weakspot the bosses constantly, but that's a hard task to do and quelling from 100% is too fast unless you use a lot of APM or block-cancel

[unreal wasp]

Huh?

Whatchu talkin' bout, Willis?

Oh, ew, that's a quick damage dropoff

[brazen warren]

lacerations would be a pretty cool side grade if shards had a lower cooldown and still applied it, not as much burst but debuff game on point

[unreal wasp]

If shards IS actually multiple projectiles, if you could still take possibly take Flayer (if possible and Flayer isn't removed), you could possibly use Shards and still go for random brainbursts

Depending on how quickly you can hit an enemy with the shards that could actually be extremely good

Not as good as just brainbursting probably

But still

[spice veldt]

i assume that the shards will have less range and won't be as great at killing crushers/bulwarks, but it'll presumably be better at everything else

hopefully there's a mechanical component to it so that better aim rewards you

[unreal wasp]

Was honestly assuming it was going to just be a target-locking Magic Missile even though the journalist called it similar to the funny Guardians arrow

[spice veldt]

i am on extreme hopium

[brazen warren]

depending on the team, lacerations shard could be my goto over BB honestly

i rarely BB monstrosities because there is stuff hanging around waiting to bonk me

[indigo portal]

Only if lacerations w/ the shards are possible. It might be an addon for the BB.

[brazen warren]

fair, but we can pray to the god emperor for deliverance

[indigo portal]

Also if you could take shards and lacerations you could take lacerations and the CC lightning, might be a bit strong.

[willow escarp]

Wonder what the deal is gonna be with the lightning . Do we know?

Assuming it’s gotta be distinct from surge staff

[brazen warren]

many different ways it could go

[unreal wasp]

Hasn't been explained further than the journalist post from what I understand, which was basically zero explanation other than it's electricity

Well

I think that one image someone posted of someone USING the Blitz wasn't an official image either

Because I have no idea where they got it

[fluid knot]

Really hope we can use the shards and WnR

Hit specials with them, set everything on fire at a moments notice

[indigo portal]

It was on the website iirc

[brazen warren]

lightning with wrack and ruin, stun and flames all over the place

[unreal wasp]

It's specifically on Warhammer Community, not the Darktide website

Had to scroll through the reddit comments to see

[willow escarp]

lol I like how the screenshot makes it look like a ps4 game

[indigo portal]

It's crazy to see that this ability was teased about with this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNlkLDpODBA 1:27) trailer.

[spice oar]

PLEASE may those abilities be truly incomparable

[unreal wasp]

Tbh, if it's ACTUALLY a "smite" what is shown in the that trailer fits better

[indigo portal]

But tbf in that trailer they also show a Psyker with a power sword lol.

[mellow gorge]

Would you even use a power sword on pysk with the 3 force swords we have access too

[willow escarp]

What would a smite be like?

[unreal wasp]

By definition, a firm blow

[mellow gorge]

Between illi and deimos I don't see a reason to take a psword over them

[unreal wasp]

Like, instead of heating enemies with a STREAM of weak lightning, you hit them with one large explosive bolt

[indigo portal]

Just sounds like BB but in this context close ranged.

[mellow gorge]

Dunno if I would take a BB replacement unless it wad really good at what it did

[spice veldt]

if it's better at killing specials, then i'm gonna take it

[mellow gorge]

True

[spice veldt]

i always run the trauma, so crusher/bulwarks aren't as much of an issue

i also hope that it's faster than BB

[willow escarp]

yeah that’s what I’m thinking, can’t just be a nuke I feel like

[spice veldt]

so it allows for more reactive play

[mellow gorge]

I adore traumas ability to knee cap enemies

It's so fun watching them fall to pieces

[willow escarp]

unless it has a cool down or something I guess. Could be more damage than a BB but you can’t spam it

[mellow gorge]

Could be like ogrn rock

Use then a cd

[unreal wasp]

I mainly don't want to take a Blitz that fills the role of another weapon slot I'm already using

[spice veldt]

maybe it has a resource attached to it like with warp charges

except that you consume it instead of generating it

[mellow gorge]

So it's handled as an actual spell?

That would neat actually

[spice veldt]

i don't know anything about the lore to comment about that though

[willow escarp]

could be like AB, consume all warp charges and effect scales with quantity

[spice oar]

i really would like it to be more of an explosive lightning thingy

[unreal wasp]

Horde Clear Blitz with Horde Clear Staves sounds like a BAD idea to me

[willow escarp]

yeah it being AOE seems redundant

[indigo portal]

Might be risky balancing wise. If you have a blitz that's better than BB for example but it costs warp charges, people might end up only using that and whatever build compliments generating warp charges. Feel like it'd have too much coverage over what you'd pick for the rest of your build.

[willow escarp]

in the screenshot it really looks like surge, like they’re being CCed

well, “screenshot”

[indigo portal]

Interestingly that surge blitz isn't for the CC skill tree. It's whatever the other one is, people are thinking a gunker related one. Would make sense a bit having a tree focused around a single target ranged weapon having a CC blitz ability.

[willow escarp]

what if he’s blasting them with psychic powers of mind control. pet maulers plz

[unreal wasp]

A big thing is that we know that Psyker has the least distinct branches of any of the skill trees

If you watch the video that showed the shape of all of the trees, Psyker's nodes are extremely connected in most places

[spice veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1144698370603106374/image.png

[indigo portal]

It's got the big doohickeys though at the bottom for the iconic ability stuff.

[spice veldt]

we do have the most nodes locked behind our ults among the classes

[indigo portal]

Kinda looks like the coherency aura and the toughness sections are pretty intertwined with themselves but the rest are super dependent on what ability you pick.

[unreal wasp]

Fairly certain the blitz are the first big three nodes

If it's like Zealot's

[spice veldt]

yeah they're squarish

[indigo portal]

These are the blitz ability nodes. Lots of addons for each.

[mellow gorge]

I can't wait for all the wizard science testing that must be done

[unreal wasp]

But ya, it looks like, without going down multiple branches in parallel, you have two blitz options to pick off a path

[spice veldt]

all of the undocumented crap that there will be

[indigo portal]

Cannot wait for the Fatshark Descriptions™️ to single handedly gimp the meta for a bit.

[mellow gorge]

Part of the experience

[willow escarp]

lol, played a ton of DRG and was the same with them

they have actually modified descriptions and/or abilities to match tho

[unreal wasp]

M m m m, DRG, using Shield Battery Drak-25 and becoming a kill class as Scout

ESPECIALLY after the Shield Battery buff, used it before it was buffed

[indigo portal]

I love the new-buildcrafting-player trap that is the minigun for Gunner. They'll run the numbers and be like "holy shit, highest DPS in the game paired with a better ammo econ than the other two when they're built for ammo?" and they'll run it thinking they're doing crazy but in all actuality the firerate and ammo are halved.

[willow escarp]

TEF is super cracked on DRAK as well

the leadstorm minigun is still the best option imo. hurricane has some OP builds but minigun usually meta at highest levels of play (esp modded)

usually agreed that damage mods always beat ammo mods on it tho

[spice oar]

then like, what should it be single target again? or cc like the other blitz.

gotta fit some other kinda purpose

[unreal wasp]

Gotta give Psyker some single-target specialized staves to compensate

[willow escarp]

could be like a debuff

[vestal stirrup]

They can pry my Purgatus staff from my cold daemonhost claws

I kinda hope we get a gun psyker tree

[unreal wasp]

Would like a psyker specific gun

[willow escarp]

Electric bullets

[vestal stirrup]

Maybe a blitz for gun psykers, like Unnatural Accuracy

[indigo portal]

I've never vibed with it, you can build if for absurd damage but it drains ammo quickly or you can build for ammo and it only has good single target. Always have used the Autocannon, usually either Carpet Bomber or NTP. It scales the best with enemy density without needing to have constant good positioning like with Bullet Hell on the Minigun. If I need single target I just run Elephant Rounds Revolver. I do have fun with the Burning Hell/Volatile Bullets combo for Minigun/Revolver but it still runs into ammo issues.

[vestal stirrup]

You know what could also be cool?

A blitz for mobility, maybe a sort of portal

[unreal wasp]

A blitz or an ult? All of these things taking the place of Brain Burst seems goofy

[vestal stirrup]

I

[indigo portal]

What would that even do.

[vestal stirrup]

Thought blitz was our ult

[indigo portal]

no

[unreal wasp]

Nope, Blitz is the grenade slot

[willow escarp]

burning hell goes hard. I’ve never had ammo issues with it really outside bad situations like mining expeditions gone wrong. If I’m taking LSLS I have it paired with something good for mobbing too like electrominelets or magic bullets (or hellfire Coilgun but it trivializes the game too much lol)

[vestal stirrup]

Use ult, choose a location, a thing appears you can interact with to teleport between the location you’re at and the location you chose

In retrospect

That’s very stupid

Time to vanish now bye

[indigo portal]

I don't say this often as to keep an open mind but that sounds like shit.

[willow escarp]

Just a straight up blink would make more sense but I can’t see that happening

[unreal wasp]

Tiny widdle warp jump but it gives MORE Peril instead of decreasing it

You thought you were about to use Psykinetic's Wrath to decrease your Peril out of habit? Sorry bud, time to explode

[indigo portal]

I kinda just want an ult that gives a period of unlimited peril use. It just stops it at 100% and allows you to keep going for a while.

[spice veldt]

ult while exploding to teleport yourself into a pack of enemies

[unreal wasp]

"FOR ATOMAAAAA!"

[indigo portal]

Become the frag grenade

[spice veldt]

an ult that buffs your general usage of weapons would be pretty sweet

stuff like vet's ult

gib duration ult pls

i do love my "press F to do this thing better for x seconds" abilities

[unreal wasp]

Wonder if the force shield ability will decrease peril, assumedly not

Mainly because I feel like the BIG reason to use Psykinetic's Wrath is just decreasing Peril if you aren't running a burn build

[willow escarp]

and kinetic barraging

[indigo portal]

Wouldn't be out of the question. The shout expels your peril into a shove, this dome ult could be something similar. I do think that for balancing it will be either peril neutral or positive.

Kinetic Barrage is probs gonna be an addon for our current Pskyer ult.

[unreal wasp]

I mainly use Quicken because it makes Psychic Communion better and gives me extra layers of safety net

Getting overzealous and pressing M5 too rapidly when using Illisi

[remote gale]

I hope the psyker at some point gets a gun that's unique to them

Though I have no idea what that could be

[spice oar]

force lever action cowboy style

[willow escarp]

I would never use anything else

[spice oar]

this hab bay aint big enough for the two of us, sibling

[hidden crystal]

Assault cannon that can be used with a divination aimbot ult. Fifty headshots per second.

[worldly chasm]

What to spend my stupid 2nd roll on to min max the crap outta this? I'm thinking flurry 4, or maybe adding a 25% damage onto something but dunno what

[golden frigate]

nexus 4 instead of transfer peril for more crit

[worldly chasm]

Dont even have nexus for voidstrike, thanks fatshark for separating staff blessings.....

[golden frigate]

just spend 20/30k plasteel and you'll get it

[worldly chasm]

well im not even mad anymore, 2nd voidstrike I upgrade to blue it gives me nexus 4

[golden frigate]

ok wtf

gz man, have fun with the pewpews

[worldly chasm]

Still probably worse than all other staves

[golden frigate]

the way of the cope abuser is a tough one, but it's walkable nonetheless

[spice oar]

yk i really hope the psyker ult has something to do with divination but its more like casting a curse and going "End these ones!" and massively debuffing a group of enemies

[mellow gorge]

im pretty intereted in the thunderdome we get

i just hope it's up for a duration, and a bubble with health

[north solstice]

just came back after a long hiatus and also just learned we are getting skill trees what the fuck do you mean by thunderdome

[mellow gorge]

one of the skills they teased was an ult that was just a bullet blocking bubble

[north solstice]

ong?

sounds useful just not super flashy

[mellow gorge]

it depends on if it's health absed or a duration

mega clutch potential

[north solstice]

also depends if its an actual wall or if enemies can walk through it

[mellow gorge]

man i need my glasses

it looked like it stopped bullets only

[north solstice]

sadge

[mellow gorge]

which imo is plenty

a few seconds of rbeathing room is huge

[magic sigil]

Just made my "Cliffhanger" Penance, by forcepushing a mob with the force sword guard, I take it 😄

[spice veldt]

oh yeah that's the push-attack

it has a weird bug where it occasionally doesn't generate peril if you use it unless you hit an enemy with it, as you've experienced

yeah the push-attack is quite different from most other weapons

[hidden crystal]

Alas, it seems like there's kind of a limit to how much fire you can be under when you do it (your toughness has to be able to soak however much incoming damage you take while your block is down, otherwise you get staggered), but it's kind of funny when you can pull it off:

Gloryhunter might actually work quite well for this particularly stupid idea.

Alas, unfortunately you can't currently have both Kinetic Deflection and Kinetic Shield, but that combo could be impressive here, so maybe once the class overhaul hits?

[acoustic osprey]

running 3 wound curios has auric players losing their minds lol

[indigo portal]

Are you actually in an auric mission with 3 wound curios?

[hollow current]

on ogryn

[indigo portal]

[lyric burrow]

Surely he needs 6 wounds

[unreal wasp]

Is the staff M1 affected by momentum? I can never hit anything when moving side to side even if my reticle is on the enemy

Would LIKE to run staff sometimes but the M1 just doesn't work killing shooters for me

[thorn cedar]

the left click will always fly where your crosshair was when you click

there is a delay before the projectile comes out

it's hard to shake in your head but it is entirely accurate

[unreal wasp]

This is probably it then

If there's a delay before the projectile comes out I am probably trying to time my click to where my cursor passes the enemy but my cursor is already off the enemy when it comes out

[spice veldt]

yeah there's the delay between pressing and the projectile spawning + ping + projectile travel time

all-in-all, it does not feel mechanically good to use it

[indigo portal]

It's funny when it desyncs and it looks as if it fired like 4 balls back-to-back instead of one.

[remote gale]

I'm finding myself disappointed that there are no damage increasing blessings to put on my surge staff other than warp nexus. I've gotten it to one shot scab gunners with a full charged zap, but I could do so much more if there were more options

[kindred sand]

Which one is better?

[lyric burrow]

Right

Charge rate matters a lot

[kindred sand]

I saw some people saying to dump on charge, but i was in doubt. I got nexus and flurry t4 for both

[lyric burrow]

Unless theres something i was unaware of with charge rate scaling its important

[kindred sand]

Its pretty good so far

[urban hearth]

Zap stick go bzzzzt

[fresh reef]

why must I suffer in this way

[magic hull]

first time?

[oak plover]

does rampage go up to t4
or is it only t3

[green tree]

This what the Psyker sees when he 'wakes up' from the dream.

[willow escarp]

4

[cold geode]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/138

[latent stump]

anyone know if toughness regen on curios effects essence harvest?

[indigo portal]

The toughness regen perks on your curios only affect your coherency toughness regen. It affects the delay before your toughness starts regenerating, and also amplifies the regen. It has no affect on toughness talents, although Ogryn's Lynchpin talent does stack with it.

[latent stump]

thanks

[plucky flax]

Cursed top rail.

[gilded radish]

its rain protection

[hollow flame]

Rain? On your local hiveworld? More likely then you think

[blazing echo]

It aint rain 😉 youve never seen a toilet

[potent echo]

i played 10 rounds with trauma staff on regular damnation

it seems to do really well you are in an overwatch kind of role

mainly mopping up stragglers during a horde fight and keeping specials/elites off your team

[golden frigate]

playing around your team with trauma is very effective indeed

[potent echo]

i tried to do solo plays which i tend to do with purgatus and had very poor results, it doesnt have the same instant shooter suppression or horde killing potential

[spice veldt]

eh, Purg is better for hordes because it doesn't knock them around

and using the trauma for stragglers that are left after a horde is one of the more annoying ways to use the trauma because you'll just knock them around

esp if there are teammates in melee and they have something like BB3/hsword/psword/illisi/brumo axe

better to just let such a low density of enemies to gather up around a player and let them whack them with such melee options

though I suppose that entails teammates being trustworthy in melee

[fresh reef]

"oh it's just a couple poxwalkers, I should let the vet handle that on his own"

Five seconds later he's on the floor because he was too focused on shooting the shotgunner across the room

[willow escarp]

use the primary fire for shooter suppression

[potent echo]

yea only works for one group though

purge goes brrr and they all cower in fear

[mental rock]

Huh, I feel like the trauma is actually pretty good at taking care of shooter patrols though

Maybe it's just a difference in playstyle

[steel egret]

Best is when they sprint and one poxwalker lunges at them and they take extra damage and down.

[potent echo]

trauma works great if they still walking in formation

but if they are spread out all around the room oh man

[fresh reef]

In my experience Purg is best at dealing with shooters, assuming you can close the gap fast enough

[plucky flax]

Trauma works really good against shooters for me also.

[willow escarp]

I’d concede purge is easier for dealing with shooters. if it’s that bad of a spot then AB is usually getting used either way. can’t say I ever feel it’s enough of a difference that it’s something I struggle with on trauma… and obviously it’s better for distant shooters.

[gilded radish]

i love it more when they scream

[plucky flax]

More range lessers killed with trauma than an autopistol and bolter vet.

[gilded radish]

they got some skill issue

[plucky flax]

[potent echo]

vets that never discovered counter fire lmao

[plucky flax]

My trauma is just really op. Here's a pro vet with top dps but I still had more ranged lessers.

[mossy surge]

Why am I in this pic?

[gilded radish]

still looks like skill issue to me

[plucky flax]

It's because we have skill issues.

I'm exposing you. @mossy surge

[spice veldt]

is that an autopistol or revolver vet

400k ranged and 13k melee 🥲

[plucky flax]

Just pro range only vet but I still had more shooters killed.

Trauma is just op at killing shooters. :v

[empty onyx]

Trauma is just op at killing

[plucky flax]

True I'm using my melee less and less.

Just trauma spamming these suckers.

[gilded radish]

the greatest way to kill an enemy with a staff is smack it to death

[mossy surge]

Do you have a scoreboard from when I played as a vet?

[plucky flax]

Why?

No one is impressed dude.

[mossy surge]

You said you would expose me :v

[plucky flax]

Latest one I can find with you on vet. I was also on vet, rare moment.

Pro vet veri op

[gilded radish]

didnt get highest total damage, bad

[mossy surge]

[plucky flax]

I actually don't care damage as long as we win. Plasteels most important stat for me.

Plasteels + time spent in mission to maximise farming.

[mossy surge]

Unless it's a meme-hour period

[plucky flax]

Sometimes pugs take it too far with memeing. 😦

[mossy surge]

[plucky flax]

Me thicc sword

[warm mica]

I need this mod so much 😍

[plucky flax]

Its a bit buggy but it's good. I made my illisi into a cursed sword using the obscures thicc blade.

[blazing echo]

whats the ideal perk/blessing combo for the illisi?

[golden frigate]

maniac&flak // slaughterer & unstable power iirc

[blazing echo]

Cheers majem

lol think Hadrons RNG is knackered, getting precognition 3 endlessly on farming. Think shes trying to tell me something

[plucky flax]

Slaughterer + your 2nd choice of blessing.

I use deflector.

[gilded viper]

Wasn’t there something about a force arrow blitz for psyker? Imagine if it’s like bolt staff charged shot. That’d be sick as hell.

[fast swan]

what primary thing do y'all go on curios?

[spice veldt]

for my side perks, I like +tough/+hp/+gunner/+cdr

sniper res is useful early on, but I don't find myself getting hit by snipers nowdays as a psyker (though they're still jank little shits)

[golden frigate]

main stat i go 2hp 1toughness, perks tough/gunner or sniper res

[fast swan]

ty

[golden frigate]

i run those perks with every char but ogryn, fir which i go toughness regen, stamina regen and gunner res

i'm about to start trying corruption res just to feel it out however, will report back

since most of the times the amout of damage i receive, particularly as psyker, is just random bullshit like a pox burster not getting knocked back and dogs just being dogs

which leads to my hp bar to get stained purple, and I don't like it at all

[plucky flax]

Max hp stacking

[mossy surge]

Go git 510+ hp

[plucky flax]

I have 510hp on my ogryn.

[mossy surge]

[blazing echo]

I had max hp on my Ogryn but changed to toughness when someone mentioned the medkit drain.. not gonna lie. I regret it a lot.
Toughness regen, gunner resist, sniper resist (tempted to replace w toughness %)

[plucky flax]

My playstyle fits a lot more with hp stacking (on all classes).

I also always have toughness regen.

[mossy surge]

50% hp left is still 250+, so compared to base hp not much is lost and can wait for med stations

[queen trout]

166 toughness helps a lot with shooters on ogryn ngl especially when they love to shoot me as im in their face beating them to death

[half radish]

Anyone willing to help me get my Malleus Monstronum penance for psyker? Its driving me crazy that I cant complete it unless I do a private game.

[golden frigate]

i'm in

[half radish]

yayyy how do you want to go about it? ogryn with slab shield and I just keep popping till it dies

[golden frigate]

sure thing

got a pretty good shield just waiting for changes to happen 🥲

[mossy surge]

need a third?

[golden frigate]

the more the marrier i suppose

[half radish]

sweet thanks guys

[mossy surge]

so who's adding?

[obsidian girder]

what other guns besides autopistol would I use for a gun psyker

(autopistol is boring)

[indigo portal]

I like the Laspistol. It has a 10% peril shove that lets you keep Warp Unleashed up for free extra damage. Shove is also pretty good at staggering stuff. It also has respectable damage if you can hit headshots. Maybe not the most viable though, but I haven't see much argument against using it for Gunker.

[thorn cedar]

Laspistol, Revolver, any of the headhunters.

[willow escarp]

revolver duh

[thorn cedar]

Hell almost any gun at all tbh

Gunpsyker and BB build is almost a circle

IME I'm mostly just taking my time with BBs and using Illisi in melee, the gun is for high peril moments when I want something dead but I can't reach them

And during those high peril moments with six warp charges and Warp Unleashed you're 10%~ away in terms of ranged damage output from just being a Veteran in Volley Fire

[primal radish]

Laspistol has a shove with 10% peril? Wat

[thorn cedar]

on psyker ye

a 9m push

[primal radish]

Never heard of a gun using peril for anything I'll have to check it out lol

[indigo portal]

It's only on the Laspistol.

[magic sigil]

I gotta do the Malleus Monstronum penance and I want to SCREAM

[primal radish]

That's crazy, does it do anything different than the force sword push2? Like is it more range or something

[indigo portal]

It's pretty decent range. It only launches Dreg Ragers and I think Scab Flamers on their feet. Not sure exact stagger values.

[half radish]

Shout out to @golden frigate and @mossy surge 2 missions 2 private penance done these guys are awesome

[steel flame]

It has an 11m range, same force as a regular push and goes through walls. Only oddity is it has a slight cast time that you will need to compensate for

[obsidian girder]

fuck it im gonna try and gun psyker with the rapid fire recon las

maybe abuse flayer

god why is every single build guide an autopistol do people have no sense of variety

[willow escarp]

AP is particularly cracked w psyker because the pinning fire stacks affected the DOT damage of your ascendant blaze soul fire

[obsidian girder]

lmao nvm 395 dps on a mutie

[obsidian girder]

oh that is kinda crazy

would gun psyker be viable with any gun? im thinking i wanna use a headhunter but i dont wanna kneecap myself too hard lol

[willow escarp]

AP also deletes muties

I mean if zealot can use a gun psyker can def use a gun as far as im concerned

[obsidian girder]

fair enough

[indigo portal]

The recon lasgun has very poor Maniac damage. It's pretty ok for everything else though.

[thorn cedar]

dont forget about your brainburst, also

it's still the strongest option in your kit 90% of the time, the gun is just a backup resource

[indigo portal]

Your gun is a bunch of tiny little BBs.

[thorn cedar]

except it can miss D;

[dreamy bramble]

Anybody else use the recon MK VIIa with infernus and headhunter to burn down bosses as a psyker, or am I the only one doing this?

[lyric burrow]

I find infantry las 12/revo to be good

If you arent running AP

Its a different playstyle and revo in particular is melee heavy but it does well

[obsidian girder]

hrrmm i see

thanks

fuck it, revolver gaming
i like the illisi so ill happily take more excuses to use it lol

[restive slate]

As gun Psyker, I use autopistol, revolver and laspistol.

Sidearms Psyker gaming

[hollow current]

I made this after getting it from the Emps. never played a game with it tho

[north pike]

What else should I adjust on this zappy?

Thinking weak spot to flak, maniac... or carapace ?

[hollow current]

I like putting flak on mine. helps with flak shooters

[acoustic osprey]

does crit on surge increase stagger or anything?

[dreamy bramble]

@hollow current I believe the mk viia has better unyielding dmg scaling than the Mk VId. Same deal when comparing Mg IV lasgun and the MG 12 lasgun. Off the top of my head, the Mk Viia can do 155 headshot dmg while the the Mk IVd only does 40ish dmg because of its reverse dmg falloff. Both are still fun to play with.

[hollow current]

I don't know much about the recon guns so I'll take your word for it. That gun just happened to be the highest rated gift I ever got and it was six months ago I feel now lol.

[acoustic osprey]

would that make Mk viia also better for killing ranged enemies?

[hollow current]

definitely seems like it'd have way better ammo economy/effeciency.

[hollow current]

I think it's more damage, not like a longer stun if that's what you're wondering.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, i was wondering utility wise like purgutus gets burn stacks faster

[obsidian girder]

is this worth grabbing?

[north pike]

for stealing slaught off of at the very least

[obsidian girder]

either to rip t4 slaughterer off or to replace the executor

yea

[acoustic osprey]

i still waiting to find t4 slaughterer

[north pike]

I don't like slaught on deimos as much

but its amazon in illisi

[unreal wasp]

That push range is a lot larger than I thought

[indigo portal]

I live to spread the teachings of the Laspistol Psyker.

[unreal dust]

Slaught is nice if you Purgatus Staff. Keeps Wildfire rolling

[north pike]

Which ?

[unreal dust]

It is with a heavy heart that I must say... ... Damage is the dump stat for Purgatus. Its nice that you've got Burn above 76% minimum. But that low cloud radius on the 540 hurts my soul

So for now? Stick with the 515

[fresh reef]

one of my friends doesn't meet the minimum specs for darktide, but is running it anyway

as such I wanted to see what I looked like, just out of curiosity

[lyric burrow]

o7

[fresh reef]

he's on like, a 1060 on something like that

and gets a solid 60 fps

you can imagine how the rest of the game looks

[lyric burrow]

yeah 1060 will probably struggle without graphics like that

esp if the cpu is in line with a 1060

[fresh reef]

he was getting a stuttery 40

in the mourningstar

at the default 'low' settings

[lyric burrow]

yeah i think arco is in a similar spot and he edited the graphics through the files or something

to go lower than low puts them at

[fresh reef]

Arco edited his for power supply reasons though

iirc he has a powerful enough rig to run it at high

[lyric burrow]

he plays on a laptop last i knew but i might not know the full story

[fresh reef]

this is correct though. for example, Low is a value of 2
But the lowest value is actually 8

[lyric burrow]

i do feel bad for people who cant run some stuff

can be frustrating

seems like he got it running even if it doesnt look good

[fresh reef]

I mean honestly? it's not even the worst thing I've ever seen

[lyric burrow]

yeah its playable

i think its mostly cause darktide normally looks very good

[fresh reef]

here's the full screenshot he took earlier

[lyric burrow]

so its more apparent when it doesnt

yeah cloud burn 2 key stats you want 76 burn

higher warp res good to

too

nexus/flurry for blessings

[unreal dust]

80% cloud, 76% Burn (it caps), and Damage as low as possible so Warp Resist and Quell Speed get efficient

For blessings you want Warp Nexus + Warp Flurry

And Perks should be Flak + Whatever (Crit Chance or Maniacs or your choice)

[obsidian girder]

revolver psyker is strangely therapeutic

[acoustic osprey]

i really like the recon lasguns

[late musk]

i am now a melee psyker

[unreal wasp]

https://youtube.com/shorts/DLSMsIkqcHw?si=v25AVV4Cbcgi-jpt

[acoustic osprey]

can bloodthirsty w/ the blaze work on illisi for fun build?

[strong gulch]

Shred is going to be more consistent to be able to build crit stack and enable soulblaze.

[acoustic osprey]

9/11 blessings...t4 slaughterer not one of them

ah okay

[unreal wasp]

Mmm, when everything comes together on Illisi and you have that tasty total damage bonus of +144%

[blazing echo]

Still hoping Hadron (like a fruit machine) is gonna pay out today

[blazing echo]

lets see what the Wheel of Hadron grants me this run

Well, we hope you had a good time and thanks for playing

[indigo portal]

If you get a good blessing or perk the right one will be fine.

[blazing echo]

ofc you were right. Still need that blessing for it tho, cant remember the name but still dont have it at any level

[indigo portal]

Yeah just swap both blessings and you're good. You're looking for Slaughterer + Deflector/Unstable Power/Bloodthirsty. Wouldn't use Blazing Spirit since you're not gonna get much killing power out of it during hordes with the Illisi.

Not perfect but reasonably good since the blessings (cough Slaughterer cough) carry the weapon.

[blazing echo]

only got slaughter at 3. I do have deflector but was hoping for unstable power though. Back to grinding dockets

[plucky flax]

I'd always put maniac on illisi.

Let you 1 shot special the specialists.

[indigo portal]

I would say so too but the value of Slaughterer & Unstable Power is higher imo.

[plucky flax]

Aye that sword is bricked either way.

OP illisi (RIP warp resistance )

[indigo portal]

A possible 4/5 weapon isn't a bricked weapon lol.

[plucky flax]

Eh to me it is.

20/25% damage to maniac is way too valuable.

[random thunder]

should i bother switching ?

[blazing echo]

if it were a better set of perks I'd have held out for slaughterer 4 but I guess ive left myself a task for later

[gilded radish]

idk why i got some immense good luck when it comes to upgrading or buying weapons from brunts armory

i can get god tier weapons first try

[blazing echo]

I had a lot of luck early on. Now Hadron is all full of snark and stinge

[gilded radish]

i have this luck my entire time playing, but when i play other game i have extreme bad luck

i could spend weeks tryna get something that has a 60% drop chance

[warm mica]

I love my custom staff

[grand fox]

best blessings for staffs? I finally got to level 30 and want to start getting some meta weapons going. I love the FS as well, slaughterer and deflector is what I want for that right?

[cloud sequoia]

depend what staff

new crab sword

[plucky flax]

Rip perk and blessing

[warm mica]

(and modifiers)

[cloud sequoia]

testing something and this is the reward ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vast sonnet]

What's the trick to surge staff? How do you use it effectively? Charge or tap?

[blazing echo]

Not sure where it comes from but on crit kills using the charge it decreases peril. As long as your peril wasnt 100 when you charged you can normally chain them without issue

so aim high

[thorn cedar]

It's just on kills. It's a Psyker passive.

[blazing echo]

and me hitting weak spots is just killing quicker, thanks!

[viscid cloak]

Is AP the only gun people are using on psykers or what?, i tried using it but the playstyle does not fit me...

cant find anything with other guns like the..,uh, handcannon/revolver?

[thorn cedar]

Shredder is a meme since it's strictly busted with Pinning Fire, and Psyker gets to double up on that meme by having Pinning Fire affect damage done by Soul Blaze. It's a flavour of the month thing (and it's been a long month).

Any gun can work on Psyker. The benefit is in having a ranged damage resource that doesn't use Peril so that you have minimal moments of downtime/quell.

[obsidian canyon]

My fire build sometimes has range issues so I cobbled this together. I wanna keep charges stack passively which works nicely with flayer. Is wrack&ruin good with ascendant blaze?

I rarely use my ult with this build because I never build much peril with it

[thorn cedar]

Switch Quicken for Kinetic Barrage. Psychic Communion for Psykinetics Aura. Give that a try instead.

You'll find it much easier to keep your Warp Charges up and W&R will also see benefit when your Brainbursts are faster.

Plus the reduced ult cooldown from Quicken is kinda wasted on you if you are rarely capping out on peril to begin with.

And having an ult that doesn't dump all your Warp Charges is also nice.

[lyric prism]

question

since when does a talent give you 2 headburst stacks?

idk which talent does it

[thorn cedar]

Quicken. Top of the level 30 column.

[lyric prism]

but i am consistently getting 2 stacks instead of one because of some talent

[thorn cedar]

I forget when that got added.

[lyric prism]

oh shit 😄

yeah last time i played, that wasnt a thing

idk how to use it cause you wanna spam with it

but also

there i wanna make a sword psyker build

like a sword tank 😄

[viscid cloak]

i wasnt here when the new force swords were added, which mark X force sword is better suited to deal with hordes?

[lyric prism]

mark V

[lyric prism]

works basically like the power sword

[viscid cloak]

i might give it a try, im using the claw swords, but im getting tired of getting surprised peppered by shooter enemies

[blazing echo]

Ive got a deimos and an illisi that are decent. The deimos light attack is so damn quick it takes a little while to overwhelmed in a horde. Still trying to learn how to use the illisi effectively but charge/heavy is quick and bisects nearly everything

[lyric prism]

so ... warp unleashed

what does it affect

[thorn cedar]

yes

(everything)

[spice veldt]

yeah special-heavies are generally ideal unless there aren't that many enemies or you can't afford the peril

[naive sedge]

If you're playing on any 5+ then Illisi is better

You won't get real opportunities to deimos special

But the Illisi special is so safe

[upper galleon]

Yee at like, basic 5 deimos is great but once you get into waves of mutants and or elites

It's better to just do 2 Illisi specials instead of 1 deimos special

[spice veldt]

though the h2 mitigates the need for the special for the most part

[plucky flax]

If your illisi has really high damage mods you can light spam too with slaughterer 4.

[lyric prism]

Oh that changes then nice

How does ascendant blaze work? Does it have to die by the blaze or can it be killed woth a sword while affected by it

[thorn cedar]

killed by you while on fire

[lyric prism]

Oh thats also great ok thank youuu 😄

[magic hull]

lol fatshark

[thorn cedar]

Wow that's like

One in a million

[patent steeple]

the description only says that the enemy needs to die from the DoT tho, but i assume that could be because fatshark is terrible at writing descriptions to include accurate info...

[thorn cedar]

Surge staff is what broke him lmao

Yea it's another poorly described tooltip

[magic hull]

bro we went the eleavtor without the ogryn lol funny af

poor guy prob got stuck there forever

too bad we all died and he dced

[thorn cedar]

Just has to die

[hoary cairn]

I also had that happen yesterday

weird stuff didn't happen in like 150 hours

[fresh reef]

Currently trying to run my wildfire purgatus setup without Ascendant Blaze to cope for when I replace the ability with a shield, and honestly? Kinetic Barrage is kinda working really well

[lyric burrow]

i wont lie i just run KB on everything

i like it a lot

[naive sedge]

It feels like its better than the numbers it tells you

[willow escarp]

I thought I remember someone saying it was

definitely feels like a 50% charge rate increase rather than 25% but haven’t ever checked

[blazing echo]

do I bother or is this wrecked purely cos of the warp res stat?

[feral inlet]

no it sgood

peril gain on purgatus is like nonexistant

by the time you reach 99% peril you already killed everything in front of you

pray hadron doesnt brick it

[blazing echo]

Cheers!

[hollow current]

yeah you can even cast at 100% and get a battle meditation proc often on hordes and keep going

[blazing echo]

Yeah ive been benefitting from that on my current staff but the blessings arent good. Warp flurry only

[north solstice]

show us what you get when you upgrade it

[naive sedge]

Beam staff and coruscation stafff please

I just do'nt like any of the current staves!

[north solstice]

i was never a huge fan of the beam staff tbh

[blazing echo]

Im just having some food and an ep of Ahsoke but for sure

[mellow glen]

Any thoughts on what to reroll on this trauma staff?

[blazing echo]

not entirely useless but she didnt do me any favours really

ranged crit to flak, barrage to warp flurry?

actually if flames vs flak are getting nerfed may be worth maniac?

[lyric burrow]

id do flak or crit chanc e

and yeah barrage to flurry

you can use maniac but i think its less important than flak or crit

[blazing echo]

Worth holding out for flurry 4 or should 3 be enough?

[willow escarp]

3 will be fine imo

I usually feel purg is pretty safe regardless… a couple primary shots to stagger, then a low charge blast and then you usually are good to keep blasting

[blazing echo]

Thanks for the tips everyone!

[willow escarp]

since it’s not like trauma where you need to full charge to reliably CC big boys and kill lil boys

[blazing echo]

Yeah ive been using it on next to no charge to stagger and by then they are all gonna cook

[queen trout]

happened to me earlier today but with an elevator

[rose canopy]

can anyuone tell me what the current BEST perks are for purgatus staff?

[hollow current]

I think unyielding for boss damage then flak or maniac on preference.

[feral inlet]

flak/maniac/ranged crit chance

from what i've seen

i personally use flak and maniac

[hollow current]

yeah crit chance too is one

[rose canopy]

ok ty

one more, what about Deimos Blaze force sword. best perks and blessings?

[abstract kestrel]

I finally found bloodthirsty

this fucker been evading my sights for far too long

[blazing echo]

ok, growing to like the illisi but need more practice. This is a really fun loadout

[gilded radish]

having a conga line of crushers coming to us, is probably the most scariest thing i have seen in the game

[brazen warren]

anti armor in the squad is always a good thing

love the shovel on my ogryn, 2 heavies and a light to kill a crusher

[gilded radish]

had a zealot with a bolter

and my axe does heavy damage against them, but is still scary to watch

and then we got stuck in that holding area for like 10 mins, no ammo, no nades with endless hords running in

[brazen warren]

ascendant blaze melt for thinning out the chaff

[abstract kestrel]

when in doubt, sneeze at the horde and they'll die enventually

[regal jasper]

Stats looked good

[empty onyx]

Nevermind, I thought it was the AoE one.

[regal jasper]

I didn’t see the blessings tho

Ah

[empty onyx]

Already have a decent Obscurus.

I could get it for Shred IV tho.

[harsh urchin]

shred sucks

[fresh reef]

pog pog pog pog pog

I'm going to try this with randoms and then unpog

[regal jasper]

Id die before i even spawn in

[gilded viper]

Oops! All Monsters!

[empty onyx]

What does Enhanced Blitz do exactly?

[feral inlet]

more nades

for psyker its 50% less peril gen from brainbursts

[spice veldt]

-50% peril on cast

so you'll generate 12.5% peril on cast instead of 25%

so 32.5% (20% + 12.5%) peril overall for an LMB

[hidden crystal]

Well, this showed up in the armoury as a blue with +Maniac and T2 Slaughterer. Alas, the next consecrations weren't great, so I've already replaced the Shred it gave me with Deflector, and now I need to decide whether to swap out the +Stamina or upgrade the Slaughterer to T4:

[fresh reef]

update, 3 psykers and 1 ogryn beat the shit out of this maelstrom with zero deaths

[empty onyx]

I'm trying to figure out if Psychic Communion is worth it with AB vs Psykinetic's Aura (or Cerebral Hemmorage).
Based on my calculations it gives you an additional 3.2% chance of getting a stack when a burning enemy dies, plus it gives you a 0.4% chance of getting 2 stacks.

86.4% of 0
13.2% of 1 (4% if not burning)
00.4% of 2
vs
90% of 0
10% of 1
00% of 2

I feel like it may not be worth it vs the reduced cooldown to AB more often. Especially with Purg or Blazing.

[feral inlet]

the way i look at it is

the more warp charges i have on at the moment and the faster i can get them

the faster i can apply stacks of soulblaze through AB

[hollow current]

damn just got 150k from that mission

[empty onyx]

Just had probably one of the smoothest rounds as Psyker ever. 24 Damage taken. 😄

[grand raven]

Stinky or not stinky?

[acoustic osprey]

i can't fucking find t4 slaughtere, i found bloodthirsty 5 times! rng is killing me

i finally refined my curios for psyker

[acoustic osprey]

i'm leaning stinky since i would want to change everything and upgrade warp nexus to 4

[grand raven]

Surge isn't good?

what do I replace with it?