Purg easily the best overall staff
#psyker-class
patent steeple
Purg easily the best overall staff
i mean yes, but i find myself using bb regardless to kill shooters/specials that are far away
spice veldt
you'll never believe what I think to be the best overall staff
patent steeple
you'll never believe what I think to be the best overall staff
gun? do you think the best staff is a gun?
lunar hollow
tsurgerauma
spice veldt
tsurgerauma
you weren't invited here
hidden crystal
you'll never believe what I think to be the best overall staff
Cleaning? The cleaning staff?
spice veldt
hygiene and a clean environment is very important
lunar hollow
hygiene and a clean environment is very important
arco needs the utmost cleanliness to barrel me
it's true.
spice veldt
i need to clean my own guts after having been blown up 100 times by "Josho", "Kronk", and "Dar"
lunar hollow
i know none of these people
strong gulch
Purg is def easier to use with good CC, but its CC falls apart on bulwarks and crushers plus it's laminations with ranged.
In terms of generalist, trauma is better imo.
I guess I don't know what "overall" is means in this scenario.
hidden crystal
We need cross play with Viscera Cleanup Detail
strong gulch
We need cross play with Viscera Cleanup Detail
OMG I need this
lunar hollow
i need to clean my own guts after having been blown up 100 times by "Josho", "Kr...
have u considered maybe theyre retaliating for all the horrible things you do to them????
spice veldt
lunar hollow
how is that related
lunar hollow
i have no relation with any of those individuals
but they sound like good players
ngl
hidden crystal
OMG I need this
Play mission, then clean it all up as a servitor.
restive slate
Purg is def easier to use with good CC, but its CC falls apart on bulwarks and c...
Hence why both are my fave staffs
spice veldt
.......
restive slate
We have Power Wash Simulator Warhammer 40k vollab
lunar hollow
its ok im a good boy now i no longer intentionally barrel u
spice veldt
yeah it's now only your unintentional and careless handling of barrels
spice veldt
lunar hollow
another time you got caught in the crossfire when mankar tried to hurt me
restive slate
Arc sounds like used to usual Josho treatment
spice veldt
i didnt know you were there
i have a feeling i'm going to be hearing this a lot
spice veldt
Arc sounds like used to usual Josho treatment
yes i am 🙂
spice veldt
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUN
lunar hollow
hahahahahahaha
restive slate
Trickery
lunar hollow
owned
restive slate
Deceit
spice veldt
careless handling
lunar hollow
i have in other instances accidentally barreled u which was mostly flying too close to the sun with autopistol aim
however that one caught me by surprise
restive slate
I was wondering where all the new fembois are coming from, didn't know it was Josho alt
spice veldt
they're all josho's alt
lunar hollow
absolutely not i would never meow in public
restive slate
In private?
restive slate
You apologize but are you sorry?
spice veldt
I have a feeling he isn't
restive slate
Most, you say?
lunar hollow
there's at least one that i did because he ledged and killed me
restive slate
Good ol justified vengeance
spice veldt
probably the one instance of that happening from me
in comparison to your innumerable attempts and successes on my life
lunar hollow
i already apologized what more do u want of me
restive slate
I really wish friendly fire was on for higher difficulties
lunar hollow
brainburst my teammates
spice veldt
I really wish friendly fire was on for higher difficulties
i don't wish that
lunar hollow
this game has way too much ranged focus compared to DT to have FF
fuckin bolter vet doming everyone at the start of the round
spice veldt
trauma psykers killing their entire team in a single blast
restive slate
Could make it so our "toughness shield" makes us resistant to friendly fire or something
So cicatrix isn't another Josho alt? Hahaha
lunar hollow
he is not
restive slate
Haha so at least 3 femboi stars in chat
spice veldt
3?
restive slate
Am... Am I mistaken?
spice veldt
🤔
restive slate
The one that meows?
spice veldt
josho, cicatrix
lunar hollow
that brings us up to 2
restive slate
Thought there was a meowscarada or something
lunar hollow
that is cica
restive slate
Ahhh name changed?
patent steeple
you fool, there are only TWO femboys here
that is too many femboys in my opinion, one is already enough
restive slate
Not enough for femboi harem sadge
Need the cutesy one, the tsundere and the emo one
hidden crystal
As I threatened the other day, I have recorded myself playing psyker wrong: #darktide-pics-vids message
patent steeple
Not enough for femboi harem sadge
a femboy harem?! if I would want a harem it would consist of actual girls, not people who are essentially just crossdressers that might also be homosexual or pansexual...
i have nothing against people who are not straight btw, i just don't see myself being anything other than straight because i actually wanna have kids at some point...
restive slate
Think of it like football manager game, just fun organizing a dream team even if I don't play football myself
Reverse harems are a thing anyway
patent steeple
Think of it like football manager game, just fun organizing a dream team even if...
hmmm, fair point... i suppose i just see the concept of harems as a sexual thing by default due to the amount of jokes that i have seen on the internet about that perspective...
restive slate
Oh it's definitely sexual hahaha. Just not to me, cause I can't be bothered. It do be a trope after all
patent steeple
wow, we really went somewhat far into possibly moderator-unsanctioned topics on this server...
patent steeple
I was confused for a moment. Thought I was in zealot chat.
bruh i know the topic was weird but surely it was not zealot chat levels of weird. i mean, zealot chat is just spamming weird gifs and videos now and this chat is not...
spice veldt
this is zealot chat #2 when such topics are floating about and psyker chat otherwise
therefore, I can't believe the zealots would do this
restive slate
I'm a psychic mini Ogryn zealot... who shoots
patent steeple
this is zealot chat #2 when such topics are floating about and psyker chat other...
i mean, psykers are the ones who are considered strange by the rest of mankind, so i'd say it would be lore accurate that psyker chat talks about weird things constantly, but luckily we are not doing that 24/7.
harsh urchin
Man I do hope tomorrow they actually announce something LOL
But it should just be fixes to the game
doesn't seem to be a content patch
which is fine, but jesus fatshark is so damn slow
plucky flax
Some nice plays with blaze trauma
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lgfIfprkX_o&feature=share8
Hooveric reskin enjoyer?
regal jasper
How does the psyker move the rest of the staff as he quells
Just negligently hit anything to the side?
plucky flax
I don't quite get what you mean?
regal jasper
How does a payker hold the staff when quelling
I want to cosplay my psyker and im making my voidstaff
ornate hamlet
You could also do your own take on it
Not like holding it horizontally is what makes the quell 
regal jasper
That is true as well
ornate hamlet
Maybe just a variation of touching the tip (
) is already enough
regal jasper
Lol
autumn smelt
gotta love communicating with another psyker with a purg staff the whole game by using the I NEED AMMO voice line the whole mission
plucky flax
No nexus on surge?
harsh urchin
despite how much more I enjoy psyker than vet
it's weird how I have one loadout i just keep going to for psyker
and for vet i have like 5
autumn smelt
i kinda have the main one for both
then i try out new ones, and realize i am just bad with the weapon
harsh urchin
vet just has so many good weapons to play with lmao
autumn smelt
then go back to my main one
i got an amazing plasma gun
i cannot fucking stand using it tho
harsh urchin
why not
plucky flax
Bolter is just better in every way.
autumn smelt
i dont like the bolter either
its too ammo hungry, even on vet
the plasmagun isnt as bad, but its still one of the worst offenders of ammo consumption out of all of their guns
plus it just
doesnt feel right
like yeah charge up and blast a shot and 1 shot any elite is cool and all but
i just dont like the way it handles
plus i feel like im wasting ammo when shooting anything that isnt an elite
autumn smelt
let your teammates shoot stuff
if im the only vet, then im literally doing my team a disservice
this was the roll
lethal raptor
I like the plasma for being a better cover blaster than any ogryn grenade, given that you can shoot through thin cover.
plucky flax
Bolter can 1 shot all small shooters
autumn smelt
i guess im just a basic vet player cuz i just stick to the xii lasgun, it does exactly what i would be doing with the plasma or bolter, and more
flat shadow
if im the only vet, then im literally doing my team a disservice
i dont really believe you loaded into a game without at least 2 vets
autumn smelt
i dont really believe you loaded into a game without at least 2 vets
actually its quite common to load into a game without any
i actually worry when we dont have one as a purg psyker
flat shadow
unfortunately i usually always have lopsided matches
plucky flax
The bolter really shines at hishock.
flat shadow
like 3 vets and a psyker
autumn smelt
last game i had was 2 psykers 2 ogryns
hidden crystal
i actually worry when we dont have one as a purg psyker
As an MG12 psyker, I get to pretend that I'm filling in team roles.
flat shadow
i am loading into a game right now
autumn smelt
range was a little bit of an issue that time
spice veldt
not having any games without any vets is pretty common for me, at least on NA west
flat shadow
actually i was right
3 vets
im the zealot
hi intensity shock troop gauntlet
using this
wish me luck
spice veldt
and I wouldn't stick too hard to roles
you can dive ranged patrols in most sections with melee if they're close enough
autumn smelt
yeah talking about vets made me wanna give my vet a go after like 3 months
lethal raptor
What's the use case scenario for a surge staff? Also are blaze perks on trauma staff worth it on damnation, or does it not generate enough stacks to be worth it?
flat shadow
thats pretty funny actually
autumn smelt
sure
strong gulch
Newly minted.
Nice 👀
autumn smelt
i guess i might have just named it the same as my steam
try HP Office InkJet Pro 6978
autumn smelt
then its not that one
autumn smelt
indeed it does
autumn smelt
ye
plucky flax
Bruh moment.
autumn smelt
i tried to make him look like asher mir
flat shadow
i love all the terrible faces in this game
autumn smelt
cuz the seer voice sounds like him
autumn smelt
you look like a high elf in skyrim
i tried my best to make him look like this, but blue skin isnt an option
flat shadow
who is this?
cyan notch
steel egret
Looks like destiny 2
regal jasper
i tried my best to make him look like this, but blue skin isnt an option
Who wore the arm better
autumn smelt
@flat shadow im normally not one to go "what the hell are my teammates doing"
but jesus christ man
the guy walking away from 2 perfectly safe and rezzable people while the chaos spawn was completely occupied chewing on you
to starting swinging at him and then lose his last wound in 1 hit
im blown away lmao
flat shadow
<@218901223317700608> im normally not one to go "what the hell are my teammates ...
i know
what was that
he walked over you guys
he even closed the door
autumn smelt
regal jasper
People are good at this game 👍
flat shadow
i survived after that on my own for like a whole minute for no good reason
gonna troll
i have my chainaxe for this one
urban hearth
been leveling my psyker all week and now my plasma gun aim is all wonky lmao
regal jasper
I troll by just sucking at the game
urban hearth
no aiming purgatus gang
ornate hamlet
ew
autumn smelt
no aiming purgatus gang
so TRUE
ornate hamlet
revolver psyker gaming
regal jasper
Onetime on the forge mission i rezzed a guy then instantly fell into the center forge area and died
Like the second the guy was picked up
urban hearth
one guy rezzed me as crusher was winding up his over head and i got rezzed the exact frame it slammed down
and killed us both
regal jasper
Damn
plucky flax
Till death do us part
strong gulch
Till smash do us splat
strong gulch
Too bad about cloud radius and T3 nexus. These perks tho.
plucky flax
It's rip. Pls scrap
spice veldt
shame
strong gulch
Yup rip.
ornate hamlet
well thats a first
strong gulch
love that for you 💀
hidden crystal
well thats a first
I know others have seen lower, but got offered this as a max level character a while ago: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1114367276804735086/image.png
plucky flax
Actually op
strong gulch
The lowest I've seen is 2%.
zealous sierra
Purge staff dump stat, perk and blessing plox
lethal raptor
Too bad about cloud radius and T3 nexus. These perks tho.
What's wrong with it?
steel flame
What's wrong with it?
They are looking for the best rolls. It's still a decent staff but you lose some range with the cloud radius
strong gulch
smort
only sometimes tbh
steel flame
smort
only sometimes tbh
Yeah Smort do the thing Smort
ornate hamlet
my condolences
spice veldt
crit damage is not too great on the purg (or on any weapon)
zealous sierra
I've never touched this since patch 4
spice veldt
that's a lot of dust
zealous sierra
So anyways
I need to know the updated stuff for this
Perk and blessing plox
Got 1.2m to waste
strong gulch
Purg perks are crit chance + flak and blessing are flurry + nexus.
plucky flax
I also argue for flak + maniac/unyielding too.
strong gulch
true
Had a scenario in which I had unyeilding + WU + CL + flayer while lighting up a bonbon with purg. It was nice.
zealous sierra
What's WU and CL
strong gulch
Warp Unleashed and Cerebral Lacerations.
spice veldt
fucking bolter vets shooting ranged enemies that I'm diving in an open space
and I can see their orange ammo count
zealous sierra
Does Kinetic Overload work?
hidden crystal
fucking bolter vets shooting ranged enemies that I'm diving in an open space
At one point I had a plasma vet emptying shots into trash hordes I was already chopping to pieces... even though he was on really low ammo and the rest of us weren't doing much better.
spice veldt
kinetic overload got replaced by Wildfire, which has some unmentioned and bugged behavior
image is from section 7 of https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
spice veldt
At one point I had a plasma vet emptying shots into trash hordes I was already c...
dumping onto ranged enemies that I'm already diving is doubly annoying because I sometimes really need that toughness
hopium for a warp glock
olive ember
imagine needing toughness and using fucking warp absorption
spice veldt
warp absorption is great
(playstyle-depending)
it is very fun to run into a ranged patrol, lose all of your toughness, and regenerate it all back in two swings
spice veldt
yes, because the trauma has other great blessings
strong gulch
I'm pro warp absorption on illisi special spam.
hidden crystal
dumping onto ranged enemies that I'm already diving is doubly annoying because I...
Team play is not a strong point for many players.
lyric burrow
dumping onto ranged enemies that I'm already diving is doubly annoying because I...
Ive started to stop trauming something someone is already in melee with(assuming they dont need help for X reason) so seeing people shoot hordes for no reason hurts me further
I play with an ogryn whos not bad but shoots like everything and it drives me nuts lol
spice veldt
half of the reason why I want a warp glock is so that I can comfortably fight ranged enemies without melee and getting pissed off by shitty teammates
zealous sierra
How much do u need to one shot mutant
lyric burrow
Wheres that arco clip
With this i need like 3 or 4 warp charges and some peril
Forget the exact numbers
But you at least want those stats and then you can test exacts in meat grinder
Also thats assuming you have no slaughterer stacks up things probably get less demanding with those
lyric burrow
Also ideally you get +25 maniac i forgot i didnt have that
spice veldt
An 80/80/80 dmg/finesse/first_target Deimos with Warp Unleashed, 4 warp charges, and +25% maniac will one-shot a mutant at 75% peril; here's a demo at 72% peril
https://streamable.com/zftlb9
unstable power will prob help despite your lower stats
fathom acorn
what blessing should i change on this and to what?
plucky flax
Thunderous to bm and crit to flak.
near wyvern
Thunderous to bm and crit to flak.
This is the way
lyric burrow
An 80/80/80 dmg/finesse/first_target Deimos with Warp Unleashed, 4 warp charges,...
This seems really hard to set up but ngl i feel like most of the time i h2 a mutant he dies lol
Although it makes sense i play high peril + communion
bleak tulip
goodbye gamers see you in like two weeks
granite halo
Cries at work
plucky flax
Yeah crafting is still shit
steel flame
for some of the really good rolls we already have it will be decent i guess
but your still shit out of luck on good stat rolls with multiple mech blessings/perks
its.....better
i guess
at least we get no game modes
HERE GUYS ITS CONTENT
CONTENT
oh well its fine, baldurs gate just finished so im dont care anymore
cya
hidden crystal
its.....better
It's better, but it's still really easy for a weapon to end up with three or four of its perks as undesirable, so this only rescues a small amount of weapons... and only really those going forwards, as we've probably already used our two modifications on old items.
The only think that significantly benefits is Curios, because now you've only got to hope that one roll is good.
However, there's still a pool of really awful perks that are either completely (+% XP) or nearly (most of the damage perks) useless, so the chance of getting three crap perks is still very much there.
This might however let me rescue some old curios that I don't use any more though.
plucky flax
for some of the really good rolls we already have it will be decent i guess
No because 2 locks remain the same
steel flame
it will save good stuff with good perks but more than 1 bad blessing
hidden crystal
Assuming we kept any of that stuff.
hidden crystal
I've got a number of curios I don't use any more because they had a mediocre, but not terrible perk (like ability regeneration which maxes out at a really stingy +4%, or Block Efficiency which is a bit overkill with +3 Stamina and Kinetic Deflection) that I may be able to bring back into use by trading these things out for something more useful.
I also have some Curios I was saving up in the hope of a crafting change.
I hadn't bothered to consecrate them before because of the horrible bricking rates on Curios, but being able to swap out two perks will change that a lot.
There are however going to be a couple of cases where I'm still going to have to decide which of the existing perks gets upgraded to T4 and what has to stay T3.
steel egret
I've saved every one that had one trait off from being good.
and only maxed blessing of 17% toughness, 21% HP or 3 Stam.
harsh urchin
It doesn't help endgame crafting too much
But it helps early to midgame crafting a LOT
Like for example on a weapon that only cares about 1 blessing
Like illisi, itll be much easier to get maniac flak slaught
Or a weapon that doesn't care about blessings like brauto, itll help a ton to be able to get a flak maniac one with random blessings
lyric burrow
Yeah your likely to still end up in the same predicament people run into now unless they happen to get 2 good perks or 2 good blessings
harsh urchin
It's overall a welcome change
lyric burrow
I think its a fine change
harsh urchin
Because it smooths out early and mid game a ton
I'm ok with endgame weapons taking some grinding to perfect
I dont think that is inherently bad
lyric burrow
Yeah i do want to work for it
This might not be the best way to implement that
But i dont mind the idea of not just getting a perfect weapon
steel flame
Funniest part of all this is that I don't think crafting would be such a big sticking point if the game had alot more content than it does rn
harsh urchin
I mean in vt2 you basically instantly got the perfect weapon
And that system was just boring to interact with
thorn cedar
And a lot of busy work.
harsh urchin
I think more frequent balancing would help the current system
thorn cedar
Opening chests and salvaging endless trash but only nine at a time.
harsh urchin
Like if they gut the outliers like slaught and pinning fire
So other weapons had a chance lol
lyric burrow
Yeah im praying for good blessing balance but idk how high on the priority list that is
harsh urchin
Seems low tbh
lyric burrow
I dont mind them doing mission/crafting stuff first cause that is also important
Just hopefully they give it a good rebalance at some point rather than leaving the broken shit alone and giving a small buff to the bad stuff that doesn't do anything to shift the meta/make bad stuff good
plucky flax
3 rerolls for weapon 2 rerolls for curios would be a good change. Still RNG but a lot less so.
hidden crystal
I'm enthusiastic about the curio change, but the problem with still having two locked boosts on weapons is that unless you already see perks/blessings you're happy with, then you're still making a large resource investment to upgrade a weapon to orange.
I've mostly adopted a strategy of assuming a weapon's bricked if the green and blue consecrations aren't already something I'm happy with, because the chance of the purple and orange consecrations saving it are pretty slim and they cost hugely more.
With my current Illisi, I got it from the Armoury as blue with +8% Elites and T1 Deflector already on it, reasoning that I was okay with those from the off (Deflector tier is a fairly minor difference), and it was basically unbrickable - if Hadron gave me stuff I wanted with the next two, then great, I could polish up what it already had, but otherwise, I could swap the next levels out:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1133036349235146822/image.png
But hoping the expensive consecrations come out well has wasted so much plasteel for me in the past.
plucky flax
I go up to purple
So if it's 1 good out of 3 I continue to yellow
If all 3 perks/blessing are not what I want then move on
Imo 3 rolls for weapon would make for more incentive to go all the way to yellow
hidden crystal
I'll go to purple if it's really good and I've got plasteel to spare, but it'd have to be pretty dang good for me to still do that.
hidden crystal
Imo 3 rolls for weapon would make for more incentive to go all the way to yellow
Having to lock out one thing on a curio or weapon would still keep some degree of randomness, while also not making someone feel completely cheated that a godroll weapon got ruined by getting crap consecrations.
plucky flax
Yep.
hidden crystal
I'll certainly accept one less than ideal perk/blessing if the rest of the weapon has got what I want, but two is a problem.
This would be less of an issue of course if blessing balance were sorted out, and they removed completely useless perks from the pool.
Honestly, +XP is barely any use if you get it before you've hit max level, and getting +Carapace damage on a Recon Lasgun (with 0 base damage against carapace) is ridiculous.
Crit and Weakspot perks need to affect the entire hit rather than just the bonus damage, Damage Resistance perks need to actually provide meaningful resistance to their enemy types...
Right now, the flamer and bomber resist perks are (even when not bugged), underwhelming because these two classes will still instabreak your toughness.
If the resistances did something to stop your toughness being instabroken (even if it still went down quite quick), I'd say those perks would actually become quite useful.
Pox Hound resist perhaps instead working by having a small chance each tick to throw off the hound? I'd say that'd be quite popular as a clutch pick.
Or, indeed, having the mutant and hound resists give those classes a percentage chance of missing.
There are ways these resists could be made useful, but the problem with bombers/flamers/mutants/hounds is frequently not the direct damage they do, but the fact they hit you at all.
Because you then usually get ripped a new one by other enemies nearby.
quasi pier
Pox Hound resist perhaps instead working by having a small chance each tick to t...
that's a fun idea, but would require a decent amount of development time. vs just change damage number
maybe at some point they will get time to rework a bunch of useless perk/blessings into something interesting though
hidden crystal
that's a fun idea, but would require a decent amount of development time. vs jus...
Yeah, that could be tough, and it might even become too good. I think my second thought of "20% hound resist means you have a 20% chance of a hound missing if it pounces you" (which can presumably be coded as "20% chance to treat the character as in dodge state") is probably somewhat simpler, but still makes the resistance genuinely useful.
I mean, if that version of it came up on a curio? Yeah, I'd accept that.
quasi pier
I mean they are really easy to dodge or push as is if you don't get snuck up on or they come out of the crowd
hidden crystal
They're fairly easy to deal with if you're expecting them yes, but there's still times you screw up. Doubtless some players would consider it a "skill issue", but I wouldn't turn down an extra saving throw against getting pounced.
quasi pier
Yea, we'd have to agree to disagree about the dodge chance. It just doesn't fit the mechanics or spirit of the game to me. Your teammates are your extra saving throws 😄
hidden crystal
It just doesn't fit the mechanics or spirit of the game to me.
There's some things that already work pretty mechanically similarly.
Hit & Run or Ghost, despite saying "Immune to Ranged Attacks" (after either a close range kill or a weakspot hit) actually work by flagging you as in the dodge state. A curio having a chance to put you in the dodge state against certain specialists' attacks isn't wildly different.
quasi pier
Well the differences are, with ghost and hit& run they are temporary and you have to perform a specific action to get the benefit
passive chance for the specialist to fumble doesn't vibe imo
hidden crystal
I wouldn't say that's a good enough saving throw that you wouldn't still want to try to dodge manually. Even if you did choose to stack it, it still wouldn't be foolproof and would mean not bringing other perks.
Of course, when it comes to making all gear viable, then yes, there's also some stuff that just needs nerfing.
My thoughts on Slaughterer are knock it back to more like +2% per stack, but with up to 20 stacks. (Probably also with a slightly longer chain time than 2 seconds, or stacks falling off one at a time, so that if you do manage to do all the work to get a full stack it's not instantly gone the moment there's a tiny pause.)
That's still one of the largest power boosts in the game, but you've got to work for it more.
quasi pier
Yea that's also a good idea
50% or more for lopping 5 poxwalkers is pretty extreme, but building up to that in a crazy mosh seems reasonable
you'd really feel the build up too which would be satisfying
hidden crystal
The problem right now is that blessings like Slaughterer set the base line, because it's so excessively good that a weapon not rolling it more or less automatically makes it inferior to any weapon that does.
Blessings need to be different but equal.
Changing how you play it, or maybe tweaking exactly what it specialises in, rather than wildly changing its power level.
And that's not the case when one blessing is "reduce any horde to meaty chunks" and another is "slightly more critical chance after you dodge".
plucky flax
Fuck it put slaughterer on every melee weapon.
Let people meme with devil's claw/knife/duelling sword.
sterile vale
Innate slaughterer 
fresh reef
how the hell do you guys play High Intensity missions?
hidden crystal
Badly.
sterile vale
Kill
mossy surge
Breeze though it, unless pubs just charge in
fresh reef
like, I don't mean that in a 'mission too hard' way
hidden crystal
Mind you, I play most missions badly.
fresh reef
I mean it's literally unplayable
horde spawn, server dies
shit flies through walls
this has been an issue for me since beta
plucky flax
Your pc specs?
fresh reef
I don't see what specs would have to do with it
plucky flax
Hishock gets laggy when there's a dense horde for me.
And server shits itself.
Cos too many things on screen.
mossy surge
I don't feel it
plucky flax
I have 3090 you have 3080 D:
mossy surge
Just hit register being annoying once in a while
plucky flax
My pp bigger 4 sure
mossy surge
1440p gamin babee
fresh reef
rq, gonna record what hi intensity hordes look like for me, then rerecord in a solo lobby
hidden crystal
Just hit register being annoying once in a while
... yes, once in a while.
Sobs quietly in the corner clutching an MG12 after the game has played the headshot sound effect three times in a row, but the dreg is still standing
near wyvern
So in short when the next patch hits, weapon locks are still not removed, it will be a tiny bit easier to craft good weapons and I never have to play low intensity again.
Lots of small victories, one major loss.
hidden crystal
I think the curio changes will be quite big. So far, they've been a nightmare to get the perk combinations you like, but this will be a significant improvement.
near wyvern
The optimal style to craft weapons when the next patch hits is to upgrade until purple. If it has two good perks then go orange, lock the perks and you can switch both blessings according to balance changes.
near wyvern
I think the curio changes will be quite big. So far, they've been a nightmare to...
It will be interesting to see how they will handle the current curios with this, which of the perks will unlock, is it random? I doubt they unlock them all.
hidden crystal
From what was said somewhere in general chat, they currently track what perk has been re-rolled. That will remain one of your two permitted modifications, but you'll get the option to replace another of your choice.
near wyvern
Nice
I assume the weapons we already have will retain their one locked perk & blessing combo
hidden crystal
Any weapon that's already had two modifications will effectively keep the locks it has.
hidden crystal
Nice
I've got some old curios that I don't use any more because of a sub-optimal perk (Ability Regeneration is one offender, with its tiny percentages), but this gives me the potential to breath new life into them.
plucky flax
hidden crystal
Hmm, I'm being offered a 380 Infantry Autogun for my psyker, but would I ever actually use it?
fresh reef
@plucky flax here's a comparison between a live game and solo. it's definitely not related to my specs lmfao
both Hi Damnation
hidden crystal
Hmm, I'm being offered a 380 Infantry Autogun for my psyker, but would I ever ac...
Eh, what the hell, it's not like my psyker's particularly poor at the moment.
lyric burrow
1440p gamin babee
1440p nice
fresh panther
both Hi Damnation
This looks like significant network issues to me
Are you on wifi?
plucky flax
Before upgrading my pc I had a lot of similar issues too
With mobs floating
When I had the old cpu
lyric burrow
I only get that with network issues
plucky flax
Didn't change my network but now with new cpu I don't have floating issue anymore
lyric burrow
Yeah assuming your pc can handle the game at its most intense
lyric burrow
I have a 6750 xt that runs it just fine at 1440p as well
Sounds like his pc specs are fine
fresh panther
I started darktide on a i7-6600k and a GTX 1070 and didn't have any floating issues like that
lyric burrow
Its very likely network issues, looks like desync
fresh reef
Are you on wifi?
yes, but darktide is the only game where the connection is this egregiously terrible
fresh panther
Typically you'll see characters continue running in straight paths without regard for collision or normal ai logic when your network connection drops momentarily and they continue whatever path they had
Do you have a way to check your network utilization (like from task manager) while running darktide?
fresh panther
Hmm that's not a ton of network activity
Does your task manager say what "connection type" you're using?
fresh reef
well, wasn't in a match lol
fresh panther
AC should be solid WiFi as long as you're not too far from the access point iirc
fresh reef
router's just behind some drywall
fresh panther
Drywall's likely okay unless there's a ton of wires / pipes in there
mossy surge
Then you should punch a hole though and drag a cable 
fresh panther
Typically the first thing I do when I have connectivity issues on a computer is set the DNS server to 8.8.8.8, the address for Google's DNS server
fresh reef
@fresh panther don't feel like compressing another 1.7gb clip, so here's some screenshots
one at match start (only bots), first player joining, and noticeable desync
mossy surge
What's the providers speed and is your wifi able to run that speed?
fresh reef
gonna run a speed test rq
anyone know where darktide's NA servers are located?
just gonna wing it and say one's probably in or near NY
fresh panther
Upload bandwidth is pretty tight but I don't think that's your bottleneck here
That download ping is fairly high tho
fresh panther
Wifi AC definitely can
mossy surge
Right, nvm my question
fresh reef
I have a theory
@fresh panther assuming you don't get connection like this often, what region are you in?
fresh panther
I'm in Michigan so typically when I run tests or connect to servers they're in Chicago
You may want to try switching from 5g to 2.4 just as a test
fresh reef
aye
was gonna run it through a vpn in like, EU, see if that had any impact since I'm pretty sure it's just the one shit US East server
fresh panther
I ran a speed test via ookla and also hit 200 dl ping so I'm not sure that's indicative of a real issue haha
fresh reef
connection type for the 2.4g band if needed
fresh panther
Generic Google speed test gave me 13 Ms ping
fresh reef
Generic Google speed test gave me 13 Ms ping
note that I intentionally went with a server in NY while I live in Louisiana
wanted to replicate the ping I usually get
fresh panther
Wireless n is a little outdated, I wonder if you can force your card to use AC via 2.4 ghz
if you type "view network connections" in the start menu search on windows and open the properties for your wifi you can hit "configure" there, to get more controls. On the "advanced" tab it should have a bunch of different settings, one of which is likely named "wireless mode" - that should let you specify which protocol it's using
The panel with the configure button also lets you set the DNS server from there
Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYf69Cj6vDs
And here's for the DNS server settings: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-change-your-pcs-dns-settings-windows-10
upper galleon
make sure you aren't on wifi, or if you are on wifi, have it be 5ghz
darktide doesn't like bad connections, it desyncs
mild desync causes hit reg cause your visual doesn't match where the target is, and more extreme desync just, makes the game unplayable
obsidian girder
decided to finally grab a voidstrike staff
thanks, hadron.
im not exactly an expert on psyker stuff (or anything really) but uh
are any of these blessings worth salvaging?
plucky flax
I think there are 2 voidstrike builds. Warp nexus surge, and warp flurry weakspot peril quell.
dreamy bramble
Siblings, what should I trade the weakspot dmg on my god-rolled illisi for?
young ridge
idk there are many good things
young ridge
flak is nice yeah
for cutting down groups of those filthy scabs
but maybe you can do it without that, but it would still help against shotgunners
spice veldt
maniac takes my priority if you're not running a gun that has good maniac damage
young ridge
maybe wait until patch
young ridge
but it means you must endure the greatest challenge known to man
plucky flax
Unless the blessing is already rerolled
young ridge
a little bit of patience
dreamy bramble
sorry mates i traded one of the blessings for slaughterer 4
young ridge
no worries youll find other ones and this one will still be fine
fresh panther
make sure you aren't on wifi, or if you are on wifi, have it be 5ghz
You're absolutely correct that 5Ghz should be preferred - when I'm troubleshooting wifi I sometimes will test out 2.4Ghz just to see if it performs as poorly to help work out the source of the issue
autumn smelt
gotta love a hi5 shock repair final event with literally 0 downs
lyric burrow
gotta love a hi5 shock repair final event with literally 0 downs
Hi int shock gauntlet remains the one difficultly i cant consistently clear with randoms
autumn smelt
Hi int shock gauntlet remains the one difficultly i cant consistently clear with...
Same
Hi5 can get a little rough sometimes, but it's still night and day compared to hi5 stg
cosmic sigil
I avoid hiSG if I am not in premade tbh.
spice veldt
hishock is doable if there's at least one decent teammate
the problem arises when all three teammates are below decent
i had a nice team this recent shock game I had
strong gulch
Speaking of below decent. It me. Bad game day and had to carry a regular T4.
It was rough.
spice veldt
trauma + illisi psyker who knew how to use their melee, ogryn who knew when to use their ranged and melee
god bless having teammates who are over the age of 12
lunar hollow
trauma + illisi psyker who knew how to use their melee, ogryn who knew when to u...
wow its us
spice veldt
TRUE
gloomy gulch
I call this one heavy boots
spice veldt
chainsword bolter vet deciding to shoot at trash during the enclavum midevent instead of going for the audibly spawning specials :)
lyric burrow
bolter vets are incapable of not dumping the entire mag whenever they take out the bolter
proven grail
whats the best psyker staff to go with rn?
boreal wave
Has something changed about the surge staff? I'm noticing a lot more that I'll electrocute people, and they'll just continue on without being stunned like nothing happened.
gloomy gulch
Im going to be sad when hadron messes this up arnt I
upper galleon
it's based on peril when you use it
higher peril= it travels farther and has more stagger
it's basically a light breeze if you have 0 peril which imo i think is bad design, but 100% peril Fs are pretty good
autumn smelt
in that clip it was 63%
autumn smelt
im guessing that wiped you too
100%
hidden crystal
it's based on peril when you use it
Which is really irritating, because it used to be warp charges, and that was an undocumented change.
cosmic sigil
nope, they just call peril warp charges internally
spice veldt
commissartyr remarked that it was changed from being affect by warp charges to being affected by peril
might've been the fire making the burster wonky
because I think that some weird interactions still do exist with bursters
albeit not as commonplace or as easily as before
spice veldt
it does add a bit more dimensionality to ult usage if you're running kinetic barrage
since I used to only ult when I was at 50% or below to get the full time out of barrage
now, I'll have to consider ramping myself up to 100% and then ulting
upper galleon
code is weird
peril=warp charge (in code) warp charge=souls (in code)
Someone who knows better should've caught that so there won't be confusion
strong gulch
whats the best psyker staff to go with rn?
All of the staves have their fans.
Purg is easier to use and build. Best for hordes
Surge is max CC and can even stun mutants. Must be charged at least half way now. Not good for hordes. Harder to use effectively.
Trauma is your "stronger" generalist option. Can CC crushers and bulwarks, but must me charged enough and positioned correctly to do so. It is very strong at making openings.
Void is also general, but has less CC. It is better at dealing with scattered range than trauma.
upper galleon
cause it's obvious even some of the devs are confused
grim dawn can't handle my 20 skeleton army
it finally crashed
proven grail
All of the staves have their fans.
Purg is easier to use and build. Best for ho...
thx
strong gulch
Has something changed about the surge staff? I'm noticing a lot more that I'll e...
I feel you on that. It's frustrating. The special effect are different. You now have to charge half way to stun muties now.
I think what happened is the electric visual on enemies is an indicator for the player to see which targets will be hit, but there's a max number of targets. I might be talking out of my ass tho.
boreal wave
The damage being poor on the surge I think is a little overkill given how short ranged it is. Yeah, purge is shorter range, but on big open maps I still find that surge gets into situations where it can't really do anything.
urban hearth
surge has a massive damage differential between unarmored and armored enemies
boreal wave
Yeah I know that.
strong gulch
Surge is specific in it's use. Surge and purge don't really have overlap.
M1 surge can be useful for killing at range or after a main target has been shot. It tackles high threat targets and groups of shooter really well.
urban hearth
purgatus M1 is so good at shoving away groups of bursters
when you get groups of like 4 bursters and pushing is a death sentence
broken carbon
splurge staff when
strong gulch
Yes. The purg M1 has great stagger. You can stun ragers with it. Crushers and bulwark don't give a fuck tho.
urban hearth
i love just mashing M1 in guys faces and having them all fall over
spice veldt
i thought surge and trauma were the only annoying staffs if the pub player used them exclusively, but god damn the voidstrike is annoying
i am actually blinded each time it hits something right in front of me
i should just tell new psykers to use purg so that they don't piss me off if I ever meet them in-game
autumn smelt
i should just tell new psykers to use purg so that they don't piss me off if I e...
ive always that i was the annoying psyker as a purg one trick
plucky flax
I am still that psyker spamming purg
autumn smelt
trying trauma staff with illisi
plucky flax
Trauma is op especially the blazing kind.
Some nice plays in hishock. The vet was good the other 2 dudes were sus. It was pain tho took way too long 😪
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lgfIfprkX_o&feature=share8
steel flame
ive really been enjoying Fire void along side a purgatus psyker. the fire gets really out of control
steel flame
Some nice plays in hishock. The vet was good the other 2 dudes were sus. It was ...
and thats how good it is without even mastering the spam
plucky flax
On blaze void do you left click spam or full charge?
Feels like to play a blaze build trauma would spread fire more cos aoe circle vs aoe straight line orb
urban hearth
its wild to me that like 90% of players i see do like 200k or less damage in most missions
i think id have to actively try to do that
dam that bridge at the start of ascension riser is a really bad place to fight a plague ogryn and half a dozen reapers
spice veldt
players in damnation not knowing that walking near a chaos spawn makes it not chomp on the grabbed player :)
and then not listening when I tell them
plucky flax
players in damnation not knowing that walking near a chaos spawn makes it not ch...
Yeah I get mad at this. 😦
When someone is grabbed I sprint near the spawn to save them. When I am grabbed it sloppily make out with me and leave me 80% corruption.
strong gulch
When one player at the end of Hab Dreyko runs ahead, triggers the horde waves, just sits there at the end and gets overwhelmed, and no one can get to them because they are so far away plus needing to clear all of the enemies just to get to the end.
Could just run together, but no.
hidden crystal
Working as a team? In a co-op horde game? What a novel idea.
strong gulch
Right??
Like I was fighting brain fog and another guy was SOOOO fooking high, yet we stuck together somehow.
plucky flax
When one player at the end of Hab Dreyko runs ahead, triggers the horde waves, j...
Tbf I do this because people take too long to get to the raptor. I can handle the horde by myself though.
strong gulch
Luckiy I had AB + 6 warp charges + Slaughterer stacks. 
lunar hollow
i am actually blinded each time it hits something right in front of me
TRUE
plucky flax
Not wildfire enjoyer 
strong gulch
Not wildfire enjoyer <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Not this time. I like it for meme fire sword tho.
Love when enemies show up around a corner or thru a door already on fire.
strong gulch
Like I was fighting brain fog and another guy was SOOOO fooking high, yet we stu...
I took fire trauma and the high guy was so excited about the blue flames. 😂
I guess white. IDK why I keep calling them blue.
plucky flax
Looks blue to me
spice veldt
so many lvl 30s/40s hopping into damnation
like it wouldn't be bad but I keep getting boss spawns + elite patrols at the same time, and they do not have the DPS or experience to survive the encounter
esp against the chaos spawn
it is actually starting to tilt me after my 3rd loss with all lvl <100s in my team
plucky flax
You need to chill out mane 
lunar hollow
turn the truelevel mod off
strong gulch
I keep seeing 20 to 30 in Hershey bar.
They can't keep it together there either.
urban hearth
i love getting 6 warp charges just from blasting a horde with purg
cosmic sigil
When someone is grabbed I sprint near the spawn to save them. When I am grabbed ...
being selfish in bed...
plucky flax
plucky flax
i love getting 6 warp charges just from blasting a horde with purg
I tried warp battery with purg but still prefer wildfire.
cosmic sigil
like it wouldn't be bad but I keep getting boss spawns + elite patrols at the sa...
chaos spawn is death with a group of new players lol
strong gulch
chaos spawn is death with a group of new players lol
Yup. To be fair. Chaos spawn has no chill.
cosmic sigil
yep, if i do not have a flamer or my psyker to tank it... well goodbye
plucky flax
Don't let a vet get the spawns aggro
autumn smelt
trying trauma staff with illisi
so, ive had some okay gameplay with the trauma staff so far, this is the one i have, the shit illisi i paired with it cuz i dont have a better one, and my feats for it
spice veldt
turn the truelevel mod off
no they'd still tilt me because I know i'm doing twice their damage somehow
despite them having the same weapons as me
autumn smelt
i probably just need lots of practice with it
and probably that soulblaze on crit blessing on there maybe
spice veldt
fuckers will bring out the illisi but not use its special
autumn smelt
then swap flayer with wildfire
spice veldt
just use the deimos at that point
lunar hollow
no they'd still tilt me because I know i'm doing twice their damage somehow
you're gonna be ok
go open a calculator and do ur weird nerd shit in it
spice veldt
no i'm going to die from a heart attack
lunar hollow
oh okay well think of me before you go ❤️
plucky flax
fuckers will bring out the illisi but not use its special
No light spam on illisi is better than deimos.
spice veldt
No light spam on illisi is better than deimos.
you're not real
plucky flax
With slaughterer light spam is so good tho
spice veldt
i haven't tested it personally, but i'd expect the deimos lightspam to be marginally better
primarily because of the overhead diagonals
rather than the weird ass uppercuts that the illisi gets for its last two lights
autumn smelt
depends on what your fighting
plucky flax
No but with slaughterer you can cleave 3 targets or something.
autumn smelt
anything less than a few enemies and the deimos is better
plucky flax
With wide sweeping diagonal
spice veldt
yeah 3.5 cleave with +75% power on lights
plucky flax
I think light spam against groaner horde is faster.
For dense thicc horde I do use specials.
spice veldt
i think it's mostly the same since even if you hit a bodyshot with the 2nd and next targets, it won't matter that much because of the weakspot falloff
hordes are dense enough that the 3.5 cleave doesn't matter as much
mossy surge
I think light spam against groaner horde is faster.
Don't you have work to do?
spice veldt
it's not like the illisi's special where there is some waste because of its 20 cleave with max slaughterer stacks
plucky flax
Don't you have work to do? <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
I'm at work. I'm on gate guard this month
It's bs work
I'd trade warp absorption modifer for cleave targets on illisi.
Give it 5 cleaves.
urban hearth
force sword specials should be permanent activations that you can turn on and off
and generate peril with every attack
spice veldt
fatshark really loves making psykers have downtime before they can do any force attack
staff secondaries? charge it
brainburst? charge it
force sword specials? charge it for each and every god damn time
i get that it's for balancing purposes but it's also fucking annoying
upper galleon
yea tbh i wish they kept sienna features where the force weapons were just, enchanted all the time, or on certain swings if they want to keep skill expression
urban hearth
conversely i think they should make the power sword activation like 5 - 7 swings but have a 30 second cooldown
feral inlet
imo it should be more of a like, generate peril for every second activated and you can deactivate it
so if you keep it active you keep generating peril
spice veldt
and perhaps balance it around cleave consumed per hit
so it'll cost less per groaner/poxwalker hit, but the cost will ramp up if you hit a rager/mauler/crusher/etc.
urban hearth
i think the power sword should have a battery that charges up from doing regular attacks then you can acitvate it to consume that power for X number of charged swings
thats a better idea
spice veldt
yeah tying it to another resource
plasmagun + psword vets having to juggle two different resources with their weapons
urban hearth
also nerfs the power sword without weakening the powered up mode
which would just feel shitty
upper galleon
AHAHAHAH
young ridge
main character veteran syndrome
Why is it always a veteran who acts like this
upper galleon
most aware recon vet player
young ridge
how psykers should start dealing with these pests
hidden crystal
how psykers should start dealing with these pests
The best way to stop a vet having loads of ammo to try and waste at the end is to play gun psyker and steal all their ammo during the mission.
If you let them have too much ammo, they get delusions of grandeur.
Start thinking they should shoot targets with a blue halo around their head.
autumn smelt
Me wielding my force sword against a monstrosity:
zealous sierra
Can't seem to do the deimos thing with mutant
cosmic sigil
The best way to stop a vet having loads of ammo to try and waste at the end is t...
vet should only fire the ammo they generate 
autumn smelt
Can't seem to do the deimos thing with mutant
The charged special attack?
zealous sierra
yea
strong gulch
Can't seem to do the deimos thing with mutant
It's the H2 (heavy 2) to the head that does it. If you haven't reached the needed breakpoints, then hitting with ranged or L1 H2 should help to get you there.
It takes aiming and timing that I don't have done.
zealous sierra
Does Psykinetic's Wrath work with the sword default?
strong gulch
I don't play much deimos.
hidden crystal
Does Psykinetic's Wrath work with the sword default?
I'm not sure I understand the question.
spice veldt
psykinetic's wrath gives a damage buff to all damage so yeah
oh wait
warp unleashed
strong gulch
Do you mean Warp Unleashed? It works on all damage iirc.
WU + warp charges + mutant damage + good enough base rolls.
Oh gotcha. I see that u clarified.
spice veldt
no u
lunar hollow
i am not tired
strong gulch
To be fair, the first article that pops for me when searching for "darktide psyker feats" uses older language.
hidden crystal
It was unnecessarily confusing when the ult is itself called Psykinetic Wrath.
Do we still have two entirely different sets of penances both called Mind Over Matter, except one of them is capitalised differently?
hidden crystal
To be fair, the first article that pops for me when searching for "darktide psyk...
Yes, but to be fair, that page also says: "Kinetic Deflection is perhaps the worst feat for any class."
Laughs in nigh-unbreakable block
strong gulch
Rude article.
hidden crystal
It calls Mind in Motion the best feat at that tier... and I guess MiM was better before the changes to quelling, but damn, that's a laughable take.
strong gulch
I never found it to be competitive compared to the other options. That's just me tho.
I'll take my KD / Unchained build and be unbothered blocking the world.
spice veldt
i never liked mind in motion either because you could just dodge
though it was more appealing back when I didn't know how dodging worked
hidden crystal
I'll take my KD / Unchained build and be unbothered blocking the world.
It's funny being able to block an entire horde while reviving someone and still have stamina left afterwards to stagger them with pushes.
feral inlet
imo mind in motion is a really useless feat since sliding exists, you can just have infinite blocks or more effective toughness instead
spice veldt
getting hit by a single groaner's running attack because I didn't know about the system that they have for dodging against melee attacks
and dying to it because of my 20 hp ass
and the first tick for active quelling requiring 500ms (instead of the 250ms that we currently have)
feral inlet
saving this for the next patch
spice veldt
very nice
i wonder if they'll make any alterations to the crafting costs
diamantine certainly has been a sore sport
in the sense that it has been collecting a whole lot of dust
hidden crystal
Particularly if you start taking the approach of tossing items if they're not turning out well at blue.
lunar hollow
in the sense that it has been collecting a whole lot of dust
i hope they introduce something entirely new to spend it on
strong gulch
IDK. Either it needs to be rebalanced, future thing added that will is diamantine heavy, or make it so you can convert materials.
spice veldt
they did remark on making some additions further down the line
lunar hollow
i'm a bit annoyed i can't gamble it away and have nothing to show for it like ordos or plasteel
lunar hollow
they did remark on making some additions further down the line
reds
feral inlet
50k diamantine to turn weapon to red quality
lunar hollow
most likely
spice veldt
we can always brag about our diamantine count
spice veldt
well, I'm right here
lunar hollow
😳
spice veldt
i really do want a crafting update that lets us just dump our diamantine into something good
feral inlet
also next patch my gun psyker's going to be insane
spice veldt
instantly make use of the 50k stockpile that I have
lunar hollow
i really do want a crafting update that lets us just dump our diamantine into so...
brunts armory for green curios that costs diamantine
i have 77k
spice veldt
also next patch my gun psyker's going to be insane
tbh, I like Inspiring Barrage on psyker
lunar hollow
which indicates more than anything i need new hobbies
strong gulch
Booooo
spice veldt
you miss out on +5% flak, but the toughness regen rounds you out a bit more
spice veldt
I like damage as a dumpstat on trauma
I should just start maining autopistol instead of trauma on my psyker
i feel like I could have won my pubs if I had just brought out the autopistol
I really want that fucking single-target burst DPS
strong gulch
I was hoping for a better fire trauma. I've had luck with things turning around. Oh well.
lunar hollow
man plays 1 session without me and goes fucking insane
spice veldt
man plays 1 session without me and goes fucking insane
actually true
the amount of lvl <100s I experienced
was ungodly
for some reaosn
on this unholy thursday
lunar hollow
the players keep getting worse
spice veldt
I got some good players here and there, but they were pretty interspersed
maybe the good long-playing players are taking a break like you are
lunar hollow
i wouldnt be much better, i finally got the replacement mouse out of the box and switched to it
probably fucks my aim up
spice veldt
prob shouldn't take too long to get adjusted to it
i played psyker for a good year and my aim was still easily recoverable
i could prob get to 95% of my original aim if I hopped into an aim trainer for a week
lunar hollow
maybe the good long-playing players are taking a break like you are
booted game up, spent 7k plas on autopistols, game told me fuck you and i decided i'd wait for the patch
spice veldt
get FUCKED
I am enthusiastic about my curios
but I have no weapon that would benefit from the perk/blessing mix-n-match
lunar hollow
i would much prefer if you were doing the fucking rather than hadron (she's rough 😦 )
strong gulch
I need better curios, but I just don't wanna.
lunar hollow
my curios will get sigificantly better
spice veldt
I grinded so much and put so many of my plasteel into curios
I think like 75% of my materials went into curios alone
hidden crystal
Curio crafting will be a lot less painful once you can replace two perks on them.
lunar hollow
i'm excited for the maelstrom missions. i keep hitting soft skill caps when i move on to higher difficulties
strong gulch
I saw passable ones in the melk shop and called it good. 🙃
lunar hollow
i would like to be meaningfully challenged in ways that arent having 3 teammates working for the heretics
hidden crystal
Of course, the blessing pool is still going to be full of absolute tripe, but you've got more chance of avoiding it now.
spice veldt
yeah the permutations for a good weapon (will) have certainly improved
spice veldt
i was pretty happy with just grinding and letting my dockets and mats accumulate
lunar hollow
and maelstrom gives me "deathwish onslaught" kinda vibes, which is cool. i was never good enough for modded vt2 but i think i am for dt
lunar hollow
i was pretty happy with just grinding and letting my dockets and mats accumulate
i really just want new gameplay experiences
spice veldt
I think Psyker will REALLY feel the lack of single-target in such a mode
lunar hollow
im running into the problem where like
strong gulch
too bad you're good at the game. You could have been mid.
spice veldt
depending on how hard we can DPS check maelstrom
lunar hollow
i'm running out of things i even care to do
spice veldt
trauma might still be good for group stuns against non-mutants
I'm the type of person who likes to stick to a single playstyle and play that for hundreds of hours
lunar hollow
dumb shit like ridiculous box kills was fun, but me and someone else carrying 2 people through a hi int or hishock only plays out so many ways
hidden crystal
Of course, the blessing pool is still going to be full of absolute tripe, but yo...
As I was saying last night, the core problem as I see it with Bomber/Flamer/Mutant/Hound damage resist perks is that it's not really the damage you take from them directly, it's that getting hit at all screws you over - either by insta-breaking your toughness or pinning you such that other things can now damage you.
lunar hollow
nothing against the game lol, got 1300 fuckin hours out of it
lunar hollow
trauma might still be good for group stuns against non-mutants
one of the modifiers gives random enemies nurgle blessings
which, on top of other things, makes em stagger immune
haha...
hidden crystal
And making these perks useful will require actually doing something to make these work on a level beyond just taking slightly less damage from that source alone.
lunar hollow
I'm the type of person who likes to stick to a single playstyle and play that fo...
tried that, couldn't do it. i normally (hyper)fixate on one or two classes at a time and play those
the variety is nice. im more excited for new classes than anything else
spice veldt
As I was saying last night, the core problem as I see it with Bomber/Flamer/Muta...
perhaps unite it into a "Specialist Resistance" perk would be my thought, though such a change will mess with the perk pool
lunar hollow
penances were fun to grind
spice veldt
and it goes against the pattern of having per enemy type (Gunner/Flamer/etc.) resistances
spice veldt
which, on top of other things, makes em stagger immune
🙂
give me my fucking warp glock
lunar hollow
and it goes against the pattern of having per enemy type (Gunner/Flamer/etc.) re...
gunner isn't an "enemy type" technically
specialists is a more "real" classification, in that it also is a damage perk type
lunar hollow
give me my fucking warp glock
warp unleashed autopistol
spice veldt
true
I do want an actual force staff for that to synergize with warp absorption/warp unleashed/kinetic shield
and so that I don't have to worry about ammo
ammo is my biggest concern because I do not trust a single inch of my pub teammates
lunar hollow
i just want a staff that doesn't have a god awful primary or special
hidden crystal
perhaps unite it into a "Specialist Resistance" perk would be my thought, though...
Well, as I vaguely suggested last night, I think Mutant and Hound resists might work better if they were instead a saving throw against getting pinned. So, a 20% Hound resist gives you a 20% chance of counting as in the dodge state if a hound leaps at you.
Definitely not good enough that you wouldn't still want to try to dodge/block manually, but something that would actually be more useful against them than a resistance to their damage. (You could in theory stack chances pretty high, but still, that would mean sacrificing a lot of your curio perks).
lunar hollow
i'm pretty fuckin annoyed the functionality in 95% of cases is just hold RMB, click LMB
even bolter has more functionality, since there's tricks with using ADS to reset and stuff
strong gulch
I wish there was an in-game achieve of enemy types.
spice veldt
anything that requires proper mechanical skill to aim
strong gulch
Just have an info tab in the menu.
spice veldt
even Trauma is lenient once you get comfortable with it because it's an explosion
yeah a glossary in general would be nice
i feel like their own internal documentation is absolute dogshit
hidden crystal
I think Bomber and Flamer Resist would instead need to work by giving you a slightly longer grace period before your toughness was broken by them.
spice veldt
like the amount of mistakes early on, the lack of consistency of the descriptions on blessings, etc.
lunar hollow
they pay a mexican lady without a lick of english vocabulary to use google translate
spice veldt
and just the total lack of any glossary in a game with such mechanics
I really do believe that power blessings are so borked because the blessing designers didn't know exactly what "power" was
lunar hollow
i chalk all of it up to it not being thought about too hard
spice veldt
even if I didn't think about it too hard, I would vague balance it around some value
lunar hollow
headtaker is easiest, and generally it's 25%. decimator is a little harder, and it's 50%. slaughterer is harder than that, and it's 75%
spice veldt
like since power is equivalent to damage/cleave/stagger, then +75% power is like a 3x bonus on a horde of enemies
zealous sierra
Debating on Deimos or Illisi
spice veldt
like Savage Sweep fits well with the whole 75% power thing
since it's +200% cleave or 3x cleave
so approximately around that figure
meanwhile, the damage blessings are hot garbage for the most part
spice veldt
Debating on Deimos or Illisi
generally depends on your ranged weapon of choice unless you like to have a melee focus regardless of your build
lunar hollow
slaughterer isn't an issue on weapons that dont kill fast
like chaxe or hammer
the only issue you could ever have with hammer is the boss damage modifier, but i think that's fun and optimally using it often requires sacrificing your health to be efficient
BB/Psword etc all are good at cleaving enemies and hurting lots
spice veldt
BB/Psword etc all are good at cleaving enemies and hurting lots
leaving out the illisi really indicates your psyker main status
lunar hollow
so you stick it on them, and there's no cleave cap or shitty base stats or anything to hold back the stupid stuff
spice veldt
tsk tsk tsk
lunar hollow
leaving out the illisi really indicates your psyker main status
i want you to gently and tenderly fuck yourself
spice veldt
yeah such blessings would make sense on thammer/chaxes
lunar hollow
annoying binch
spice veldt
though that loops into the argument of "why not just make the base weapon good"
but one could say that fatshark could also introduce blessings that completely change the functionality of a weapon
and there would be a more interesting reason for strong ass blessings and a weak base weapon to exist
lunar hollow
though that loops into the argument of "why not just make the base weapon good"
i kind of don't like this argument
because there are instances, like with thrust, where having it makes the weapon way better
but you also have to play around it in a significantly more risky manner
spice veldt
is there much competition with thrust on the thammers/chaxes?
or is it basically a must slap on
lunar hollow
you can run headtaker over thrust on chaxe
spice veldt
true
lunar hollow
but hammer doesn't have anything else useful that hits breakpoints with no 'setup' (as in enemies)
however, using thrust is kind of a gamble vs most enemies because shit doesn't stop swinging
like if you don't space properly vs a rager you eat shit just to kill it
spice veldt
hmm, maybe thrust on CAxes if brumo wasn't as op
true
and a lot of heavy attacks being interruptible
spice veldt
if you specced it for a more single-target role, thrust seems like it would fit well
basically the deimos but axe
lunar hollow
well the caxe starts off with good single target
i would probably run head/taker deci for the fact that caxe heavies do worse vs maniac
and it would more support fighting ragers n whatnot
spice veldt
holy shit what is that cracked ass illisi
lunar hollow
i put the / in the wrong spot in that message
i almost did the first time i typed headtaker/deci as well. fuck im tired
spice veldt
if I could, I would kill you for that illisi
spice veldt
i almost did the first time i typed headtaker/deci as well. fuck im tired
lamayo
spice veldt
if I could, I would kill you for that illisi
(don't mind this message at all) 🙂
hidden crystal
I really do believe that power blessings are so borked because the blessing desi...
I've concluded that Fatshark should put me in charge of game balance, because I'd be much better at it.
lunar hollow
if I could, I would kill you for that illisi
'im not a psycho'
spice veldt
I've concluded that Fatshark should put me in charge of game balance, because I'...
yup; the bar is set so god damn low
AUGGGH
it just pains me how absolutely out of WHACK the blessing balance is
like if you have an understanding of crit damage and all these systems, you could just write some quick numbers and it would be much better already
lunar hollow
the blessings system deserved so much more love and attention than what it got if they wanted to make crafting so rigid and terrible to get exactly what you want
spice veldt
and it's an already implemented system, so you just need to invest manpower/time into thinking about how to balance it all
rather than coming up with ideas and implementing it into code
zealous sierra
if I could, I would kill you for that illisi
I honestly had no idea how good it was
lunar hollow
one thing they should, in the platonic sense of the word ideal, is just delete like half the fucking blessings
+impact is useless. flatout
zealous sierra
Cause it was my first attempt on Illisi sword lol
spice veldt
t4 slaughterer/unstable power and Flak/Maniac
lunar hollow
it's a bad idea as a stat nobody will ever use
spice veldt
that's my god roll right there
lunar hollow
something has good crowd control or it doesn't
spice veldt
and warp res being the dumpstat with near 80 in every other stat
I think i could be comfortable with losing some mobility for warp res, but god damn
hidden crystal
t4 slaughterer/unstable power and Flak/Maniac
I'd want to put Deflector on it instead, but yeah, that's really good. Very nice stats too.
plucky flax
The two swords
That is op man. Slaughterer locked in too so you could have deflector.