psyker-class

[fiery plume]

I guess the real question is: Versus monstrosities, what's the dps plan?

[spice veldt]

DPS-wise, the special is only worth it against flak since it deals 200% damage to them (and 100% to everything else)

so l1->h2 against bosses

[fiery plume]

/thumbsup

Thanks, hoss.

[spice veldt]

deimos's l1 deals 2x damage and its h2 deals 2.5x damage

[raven zenith]

what about brunts armory? spam that to get weapons with good base stats and upgrade or wait until he sells something proper?

[fiery plume]

Just got this. Pretty happy with it.

[spice veldt]

prob a mix of both

[fiery plume]

So I figured I'd learn it

[spice veldt]

brunt is where your dockets go if you've got some to spare

[lunar hollow]

brunt is a machine that turns dockets into 300 base rating weapons

[spice veldt]

god damn

[raven zenith]

nah that's peddler 51/78

[lunar hollow]

very nice

this is my deimos

[spice veldt]

i hope the robot explodes

[lunar hollow]

why

[spice veldt]

BOOM

[raven zenith]

aint got an orange deimos, but my Illisi is pretty decent imo

[lunar hollow]

thats not an elaboration

[spice veldt]

no

[raven zenith]

yes it is

[fiery plume]

Yeh. Still trying to get a good illisi.

[raven zenith]

so what perks and stats go well with a voidstrike staff? I'm thinking something like 313231 maybe?

[ornate hamlet]

Fatsharked

You want uhhh enough damage to one-shot shooters and the rest can go fuck itself

Right now I'm trying to do blaze memes because I hate purgatus due to how boring and intrusive it is

You just throw flames on stuff until the hitmarkers tell you they're dead because you can't see jack fucking shit

Also the staff fixed itself, except it didn't because now it's dealing more damage

Oh wait, I put on WU

Okay, details

[spice veldt]

peepee poopoo pissbaby

[ornate hamlet]

But WU shouldn't give me over 350 from 301

Provided 301 is the intended damage, the gain rises to 331

[spice veldt]

350/301 is 1.16x so it's within the range

[ornate hamlet]

Oh yeah, it rises a bit with the charge

Aight, I'm happy

[spice veldt]

woohoo

[ornate hamlet]

Though it also means that I can set my perks to any idiotic thing I want

[spice veldt]

+stamina

and not just that

T4 +stamina

[raven zenith]

is it just me or is Kinetic Flayer terribly inconsistent?

[spice veldt]

yeah very much if not running a high firerate weapon

[grizzled iris]

So arcotash, how good did voidstrike end up being

[spice veldt]

same as usual

6 cleave limit except for when the server lags (which tbf happens a lot)

[grizzled iris]

Gonna put trauma on the shelf now?

[spice veldt]

never

not until i get my peril glock

[lyric burrow]

Trauma goated

[grizzled iris]

So... how would you rate the staves?

[lyric burrow]

Trauma/purg>surge/void

I think trauma and purg are a good bit better than surge and void

[grizzled iris]

For me it is
S-Trauma
A-Surge, purgatus
B-Void

[lyric burrow]

And surge and void id rank toughly even

Trauma might just be better than purge but im undecided

[spice veldt]

yeah for pub matches that's my ordering as well

[grizzled iris]

Surge has more usable appliances than void thats why I rate it higher

[lyric burrow]

Surge might be better i just play in pubs 95% of the time

[lunar hollow]

ive tried running surge in elite res pubs

and the only use i found was making space to back up when theres 3 ragers around a corner

[lyric burrow]

So i just end up meleeing everything or my surge doesnt get good use cause nobodys paying attention

[lunar hollow]

something u can do with other staffs and not sacrifice all the damage

[grizzled iris]

Why would you bring surge to elite resistance

[lyric burrow]

If I was playing with people in here or something it would get good use

[lunar hollow]

because there's less enemies but they take longer to kill

[lyric burrow]

Yeah you could actually manage all the elites

[lunar hollow]

and sometimes the vet decides that shooting elites is what u wanna do

and it does something

and then other times you will wait for a mutie to stand next to ur teammates in a horde, surge it, they ignore it for a full charge duration, and it grabs u anyways

[lyric burrow]

Yeah

That does not help its case

[grizzled iris]

If I wanna play elite resistance I go on my vet since randos can't be trusted to do their jobs

[lyric burrow]

Its fine on psyker imo just not with the support weapon in a team that does not use the support

But trauma/deimos does fine unsurprisingly

[grizzled iris]

You see, this is why I say that surge is a skill weapon, because at least I know when they can and can't be stunned

[lyric burrow]

Think revo worked too

[grizzled iris]

Surge staff coding is wonky, but when you know how fckt it is you can play around it and avoid those mishaps

[lunar hollow]

u cant play around teammates ignoring the stun though

pub players have no counter

(on the flip side there are many cases where a surge user will stun something out of the reach of someone and basically waste their own time)

[grizzled iris]

Thought you were talking about surging a mutie but it not getting stunned

[lunar hollow]

oh no

i surged it

kept it still while it was within like 8 meters of 3 teammates

and the entire time they just didnt hit it

surge ends, im against a corner during a horde, get grabbed and almost die

[grizzled iris]

Maybe they just brought a shovel and were physically unable to hit it?

[lunar hollow]

must be

[lyric burrow]

Surely

[lunar hollow]

i had a game two days ago where a surge psyker stunned a mutie like 15 meters away, that i couldnt reach because it was in the sightline of a bunch of shooters

and i had a thammer

i wasnt quite sure what he expect me to do

[grizzled iris]

Guys I got a difficult decision to make... when my daughter grows older... should I introduce her into video games? Or should I spare her from all the incels?

[lyric burrow]

Charge into it obv

[ornate hamlet]

shit yourself

[lunar hollow]

i suppose

[spice veldt]

die

[lunar hollow]

arco i think u were there for that one

[spice veldt]

i might not have seen it but i think i was yeah

[fresh panther]

Literally every pub I play as a thammer zealot and get matched with a surge psyker has this issue lol

[lunar hollow]

the problem is the vast majority of fights vs a mutie dont have a surge staff

[grizzled iris]

Just charge it 4head

[lunar hollow]

my entire decision making is based on that majority of cases

u throw a surge staff in and now nobody knows what the other person is doing

[fresh panther]

Yep lol

[lunar hollow]

he kept dragging

so slooowwww

[safe crystal]

This is me but with the situation where i tilted you yesterday with the bursters

[fresh panther]

Plus the opposite happens, people ignore bursters assuming it'll get surged away and surge psyker is too busy stunlocking groaners

[lunar hollow]

you've pissed me off more than any other person ive played with in a premade

i was almost like that roman general who died of a fucking stroke because of how mad he got

[spice veldt]

damn iceslow should get a trophy for that

[fresh panther]

Bonus points for an ogryn watching you 1 tap a mutie with the thammer, then hitting the next one with a box

[lunar hollow]

wasnt a general

[grizzled iris]

Throw a surge staff in and now you know that shit is gonna happen in wonky ways because you have an idiot with no braincells holding the nuclear codes to the Emperors toilet and he will detonate it at random moments when you least expect it

[lunar hollow]

emperor valentinian

[safe crystal]

Dont worry, i uninstalled yesterday in anticipation for BG3 release

[ornate hamlet]

Videogames helped me find a lot of cool people (not Josh) and helped me improve my English and knowing things that I normally wouldn't in a school environment, like "fuck you cocksucking bitch shitstain I hope your ass hair catches on fire and the only thing near you is clear alcohol", but it does bring its own downsides like being able to come across creepy people, scammers and redditors

[safe crystal]

You wont be seeing me in a while

[lunar hollow]

inshallah

[spice veldt]

(good riddance)

[safe crystal]

TRUE

[lunar hollow]

fuck u too

[ornate hamlet]

I think my life wouldn't have been better if I wasn't introduced to computers and videogames, but I also grew in a time when Tiktok, Facebook and those other annoying things weren't there yet

[grizzled iris]

And you also come across Josh, don't forget Josh

[ornate hamlet]

Influencers and other mental retrogradation weren't excessively present in the internet yet and we also didn't have predatory mobile phone games preying on children

We had online PC games preying on children instead

[spice veldt]

my list of priorities would be having her play without a mic and not play league of legends

[ornate hamlet]

Thank you mom, for not paying 5 dollars a month on a Runescape membership when I was 9

[grizzled iris]

How old are you? About my age? 28? Because I think our time was the golden age

[ornate hamlet]

That totally didn't scarr me for life

26

[grizzled iris]

And yea, runescape the things we grinded xD

I was a crafter ranger xD

Good times

[ornate hamlet]

I grew up with people owning stuff like Nintendo 64, Playstation 1 and my first console was a Mega Drive

I think it was a great age to grow up in because computers were getting more prevalent at homes, but kids didn't have much bloat to deal with online

[grizzled iris]

My first console was Playstation 1 playing gran turismo 1 and 2, collin mcray (Yes, my dad is a car freak)

[ornate hamlet]

Specially with dial-up

With dial-up we had to deal with sharing compressed music videos and incomplete audio files because the first person who copied the file didn't do it right or maybe copied a preview or whatever

[grizzled iris]

So... what do I do

[ornate hamlet]

Well, honestly I don't know

But odds are neither do parents

After all, nothing truly prepares for having a child

[grizzled iris]

"Hey Linn this is Sterling! She will guide you through the not to do's on the internet"

[ornate hamlet]

I'm not sure how to introduce someone to the internet today because it's wildly different from the internet back when I was introduced to it

[grizzled iris]

Well, we were introduced with gameboys, consoles etc

Computers became more of a thing if you had one

Otherwise you became one of those filthy console warriors

[ornate hamlet]

My mother and my father had their own

[grizzled iris]

And we don't talk about those

[ornate hamlet]

I used to play Heretic 2 and my mother's computer was slightly worse than my father's to the point it actually softlocked me because of a jump height thing

I couldn't grab a ledge and didn't know console commands or what a console even was

BUT

[grizzled iris]

Where you from sterling?

[ornate hamlet]

One possibility I see, given how prevalent technology is nowadays, could be waiting for the teacher to give the class an assignment that involves the internet

It gives a goal and a motivation

Brazil

So instead of it being "uh... this is the internet", needing to do homework on it could be "this is Google, we type stuff here", "this is Word, we write stuff here", "this is Excel, the entire global market is sustained by its lifeforce" and so on

One of the biggest challenges for a non-teacher is finding a way to start things, I'd say

[grizzled iris]

I'd be more like "This is doom 3, this was the shit back in the day"

[ornate hamlet]

I only know how to introduce someone to Python because I have the material for it and would follow my former teacher's subject order to the letter

[grizzled iris]

You remind me of a russian girl I know xD she also went into programing

[ornate hamlet]

My condolences

[grizzled iris]

Yea... she is having it rough currently...

[ornate hamlet]

Oh yeah, another thing I remembered

Ads

Ads to someone who doesn't know what they are can be indistinguishable from the rest of the page

[grizzled iris]

Mature hmm hmm in your area

[ornate hamlet]

We older folk can spot ads from a mile away because we browsed thousands of pages across the years

A kid can see an ad for a shady MMO and just click it

[grizzled iris]

Older folks... yea... we still young but feel so old in todays age

[ornate hamlet]

I'm not sure how other generations were technologically, but I feel like we grew up with a shitload of changes

[grizzled iris]

Indeed

[fluid knot]

Probably the most any generation has seen since the war

[ornate hamlet]

I don't remember computer advancements back in the times of those punctured cards, so I can't say if they advanced similarly in 26 years

Oh yeah, the wars caused a lot

Oh oh, the Cold War

[grizzled iris]

I sent you a friend request, would love to have more of these convos

[fluid knot]

Though it was some severe changes, not the level of wartime, which we should be very thankful for

[fluid knot]

Nah, that was'nt in my liftime an i got 4 on you

80s

[ornate hamlet]

No, I mean the Cold War also brought some scary technological advancement

[fluid knot]

Well.. to be fair, if you wanna be really pedantic about it, it never really ended but ho hum

[ornate hamlet]

I think the internet was made then?

[fluid knot]

Ahh yes, it did indeed

[white sky]

Oh Dorf, was thinking about you, have a song: https://youtu.be/3k0LezNohJk

[fluid knot]

Uhh.. maybe some very early format of, as i understand it that was mostly a 90s thing, though thats not to say militarys at the time werent already networked

[fluid knot]

Eyyy, good timing that, i am, in fact, almost out of ale

[ornate hamlet]

'eadin' back to teh poob with me lads, yeah

top fookin shite, yeah

[fluid knot]

Nah, being a sad ol' c*nt an drinkin at home today

[ornate hamlet]

blimey

[fluid knot]

Cheaper than the rub-a-dub

[fluid knot]

Fat, as always wit Doom

[white sky]

I miss em

[fluid knot]

Yeah man, was a sad passing that one

https://youtu.be/8ZMo15SkyQE @white sky Lemmie return the flava

[white sky]

I like it, kinda reminds of of that Big Shug type of stuff, I'll add this to my collection

[thick carbon]

I want this model in-game but without the camo so badly

[chrome arch]

Already 3 marks of the force sword, but who knows maybe we get 4th. No clue what would it even do that deimos and ilissi doesn't though.

[whole oxide]

i guess there isn't really a CC force-sword

but staves already do plenty of CC

[harsh urchin]

you can cc the enemies

by killing them

[whole oxide]

or maybe a slower less mobile one with longer reach

[thick carbon]

I mean more like a skin. I just love the look of it

[kind jay]

would rather get new staves. we're already busted in melee

or force based guns

[thick carbon]

they're called staffs

and the bolt staff would be amazing to have

[kind jay]

nah i mean like drakefire pistols type thing

[thick carbon]

I'm like 99.9999% sure there's no such thing in 40k. closest thing is a melta

[kind jay]

it's ok to implement things that aren't lore accurate

[swift kite]

i dont think GW would allow anything not lore accurate unf

[kind jay]

but ig yet another force sword is fine

[fresh panther]

Games Workshop would like to know your location

[kind jay]

Florida

[thick carbon]

not to mention that the drakefire pistols were complete ass lmao

[fresh panther]

Ah carry on

[swift kite]

GW stops pursuing

[kind jay]

guess I'll make my own tide. with blackjack and hookers

[ornate hamlet]

I don't like all the camos tbh

To me the special edition skins are the closest to something I really want to use, since they dye the weapon mostly black while retaining the metal and gold details

This just looks fucking cool

[lunar hollow]

i mostly only end up using camos to color coordinate with a set

particularly if it doesnt otherwise change the model

the special edition skins are pretty good though. some of my favorite

the weapon specific ones that actually change the model are normally pretty good too, but the color changes (that often give you the shittiest model of the weapon family as the base) are pretty not great

[ornate hamlet]

@spice veldt arco arco arco

do staff perks affect blazing spirit's ticks?

[spice veldt]

ye

[ornate hamlet]

Based

[spice veldt]

perks on your currently held weapon affects DoTs

[lyric burrow]

Ive debated buying some of the better ones

[crude cape]

wait

this is a thing?

how have i never seen shock troop without high intensity before

[ornate hamlet]

aye

[old oyster]

its from a dlc ?

dlc pack *

[ornate hamlet]

Imperial Edition

[fresh panther]

I'd say it's uncommon but yep it does exist

[fluid knot]

As for another Force Sword.. aint there a 2H version in the files we're menna see at somepoint?

[kind jay]

potentially. along with variants of many staves. take datamines with grain of salt tho

[wanton tendon]

It’s a shame that there isn’t a mortis skin for every weapon…considering we paid extra for it you’d think it’d have been on all the base weapons. I’d understand if DLC weapons came out and didn’t get it..but the base ones? All of em need it.

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, it feels bad

I imagined, for example, the devil's claw would have it

It's a very basic weapon that can be put on any class

The chainsword has it, but not the eviscerator, the lasgun has it but not the laspistol, and so on

[wanton tendon]

Everything would look great in a mortis skin. It’s edgy..this is 40k..the edgiest shit ever 😂
Gimme da skull skin

[ornate hamlet]

Also all staves have it, all force swords have it

Hell, two of the force swords released after the Imperial Edition and have a skin

[wanton tendon]

Yeah, it’s as long it’s the same kinda weapon all skins will go on each version

[broken carbon]

give me a skull mace on zealot

[wanton tendon]

Thankfully..cause if we had to buy skins for each MK I’d brain burst myself

[crude cape]

something up with servers? my chat isn't working in-game

and getting matchmaking errors sometimes

[wanton tendon]

I reset my router and pc yesterday when that happened and it fixed it

It’s not servers as far as I can tell cause I’m currently in game

[fluid knot]

Ofc, but a 2H sword feels somewhat likely on the face of it

Obviously more staves will be coming in the future as 4 is uhhh... lacking.. to put it lightly

[crude cape]

im playing too but chat isnt working at all

i cant communicate with teammates

[full bane]

2h force sword will be interesting

[crude cape]

is this a datamine or something?

[full bane]

Yeah pretty much

Was the result of using the gear randomizer mod iirc

[burnt maple]

What if no-hander. Dancing Force Sword

[flint pawn]

A mind controlled weapon of any sort as a melee weapon would be sick

[cosmic sigil]

It has been deleted no? Tbh started using keepswinging for my 40.5 yo wrists

[sturdy quest]

yoo this looks great

[idle aurora]

Keeps swinging and fullauto mods are fine imo, since they literally can save you from physical injury, lol, zealot knife build is a carpal tunnel boot camp

[lunar hollow]

yea the problem with AFA is that you could make it swing faster than humanly possible with QQ spam or just mashing m1

[steel flame]

it turned the diemos into a meat grinder

it was disgusting

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah. And I work in an office too. So I'm always on a computer -_-

[idle aurora]

Ye i know about that mod, but im talking about the ones that just basically hold down m1 for you, without doing some insane weapon switches

[cosmic sigil]

It's still possible to do the same trick with either a script or a macro on a mouse no?

[steel flame]

the mod was a macro

[cosmic sigil]

Ohhh

[steel flame]

a very well done macro

but it also bypassed the games input buffering entirely

[harsh urchin]

I think there's nothing wrong with stuff like keepswinging

But earlier some guy was defending the mod that made your staff into a machine gun

That was some true delusion LOL

[steel flame]

?

i can do that QC without a macro, and its capped by the input buffer in the game

[harsh urchin]

Not quell cancel

[steel flame]

huh?

oh dear

now im interested

[cosmic sigil]

I admit that yersterday was less tiring because of it. And there's at least one drawback. You need to toggle it off to access your heavies.

[harsh urchin]

Afaik it was reseting the animation when your attacks hit? Idk

I didnt read into it too much but I actually think that that is too much

[steel flame]

im confused are you talking about stirling and the script he made?

[idle aurora]

You can just hold down m1, it will stop for that, just set it in options

[cosmic sigil]

(I'm talking about keepswinging)

[harsh urchin]

No

Talking about the selfish dude

[steel flame]

what was his name so i can see what your talking about

[harsh urchin]

But it doesnt really matter anyways cuz it's a single player game

[steel flame]

the machine gun staff is something we can do without a macro

its not that hard

it just makes your fingers wanna die

[meager plinth]

and can get pretty annoying visually and audibly too

for voidstrike

[cosmic sigil]

How so? I configured it so that it keeps swinging as long as I hold m1.

[steel flame]

you should hear and see what quell canceling the m1 on the fire staff is like

[cosmic sigil]

But there's am option to cancel it by attacking.

But If I cancel it, I need to toggle it back on

[idle aurora]

Ah, gotcha. What i did, i set my sidebutton to activate/turn it off. And set that heavy attacks and blocking stop it temporarily

[cosmic sigil]

Ahhhh

Well. I have 2 side buttons. M4 is for dodges and M5 is for the special

One or two more would have been perfect

[harsh urchin]

You can m3

[cosmic sigil]

M3 is press wheel?

[harsh urchin]

Ya

Its pretty good for stuff you dont use too often

[cosmic sigil]

I put reload / quell on it

[harsh urchin]

Ew

[upper galleon]

hi damn with purge staff is fun

[harsh urchin]

I cant imagine holding down m3

[upper galleon]

killing an entire horde with never ending fire

[cosmic sigil]

I don't like having to quell by pressing r

[steel flame]

here ya go.https://streamable.com/cu1nma

[cosmic sigil]

But I could change it back. I'm mostly a gun psyker

[steel flame]

it not as bad as it remember it sounding, but dear god in a dark map its a perpetual flashbang

[cosmic sigil]

Or I could put the toggle on the r key

[meager plinth]

why would you do that to yourself

[cosmic sigil]

ATM it's X

[steel flame]

for funsies

[cosmic sigil]

Well. You never really hold it down for a long period of time

[idle aurora]

i legit cant play purg build without 3rd person mode anymore, my eyes are thankful

[wet jacinth]

[hearty python]

I have it set for BB/grenade switch

But my mouse has a freewheel with a separate button behind it for M3

[harsh urchin]

freewheel ew

[hearty python]

It's selectable, and lets me spaz out with weapon switch I'm the elevators

[harsh urchin]

i used to have a g500 i think

and that lets you switch to either

and i ended up just never using freewheel

[hearty python]

It's an MX anywhere 2, also switchable

[frail moon]

I require assistance! Don't play psyker at all and I don't know what to put on my stuff. Should I change riposte to something else?

[lyric burrow]

change it to slaughterer

although tbh id take the deflector off that sword and try to get a new one when you can

perks and FT arent great

but itll be fine till you get a better one just change block efficiency to maniac

[frail moon]

Alright then. What would be the best blessings and perks for the Illisis then?

[spice veldt]

maniac + flak is generally ideal if you aren't running a gun

[lyric burrow]

maniac/flak and unstable power with slaughterer

if you dont like slaughterer/unstable then deflector is good

depending on how you use the sword you actually want low warp res but it depends on if you plan on using unstable or how often you charge

[frail moon]

I'll be using it for hordeclear since of the nice sweep attacks it has

[lyric burrow]

Yeah ig by how often you charge it meant if you dont mind being able to spam the charge less because you hit max peril

Its good for building peril and unstable power but downside is you cant spam it as hard

So up to you how much you care about getting to high peril fast

[harsh urchin]

2nd perk is pretty flexible

[spice veldt]

for reference, special-heavy spam is the best hordeclear that you'll get from the illisi

[harsh urchin]

you can run deflector or unstable or bloodthirsty or whatever

[lyric burrow]

oh did you mean blessing

prob doesnt matter im sure everyone knows what you mean lol

[limpid moth]

New to the gaem, any psyker tips?

[spice veldt]

Brain Burst is safe to begin channeling at 97% peril and below; it is safe to activate force sword specials at 99% peril and below; it is safe to finish (but not begin) the cast of your force staffs at 99% peril and below

you actively quell more peril the higher the peril that you begin quelling from

[lyric burrow]

also you can cancel the warp explosion with your ult

i actually didnt know that for quite a while

[river garden]

I only knew that cuz of Vermintide and Sienna's explosion mechanica

[agile garden]

Can anyone recommend if Wildfire is better than 6 stacks for a soulblaze Trauma staff build?

On the Soulblaze Trauma Staff the +Crit blessing is better than cast speed right?

[ornate hamlet]

From what I know, warp flurry is better than every staff than every other blessing besides maybe surge because you probably are gonna quell before you get any good benefits

Wildfire is kind of redundant because purgatus has infinite cleave anyway

[ornate hamlet]

I think it’s better because it applies more soulblaze stacks on enemies, and since they slowly build up instead of you getting them all instantly, meaning you can apply more stacks on more enemies before ending your charge

Buuut at the same time soulblaze has a cap on the stacks that wildfire doesn't help with, and warp battery does

[spice veldt]

the other caveat is that it'll only stack up to 4 on enemies

[ornate hamlet]

Wildfire just helps you spread it with the infinite cleave weapon, but warp battery makes that DoT deal more damage along with also enabling some funny breakpoints like flamers and ragers

WU provided, that is

Well, actually I don't know because I never not use WU

I tried the other two, had an aneurysm and went back to WU

[strong gulch]

If you scroll up, there was a lot of wildfire convo earlier today.

I don't think wildfire is actually better than anything. The main reason to run it is if you find it fun.

If you really want incorporate wildfire into a build and notice it, blazing spirit + shred on Illisi force sword will let your really see it.

It's not strong in terms of damage compared to pretty much everything, but WILDFIRE.

I don't like it tho. 😂

[steel flame]

so uh i found out something new today

its all very strange

but a demon host woke up kill our psyker, then it knocked down our vet and started soul sucking him, but a trapper then netted him out of the soul suck animation, not only did it save him from being killed it also rezzed him minus a wound as if one of us picked him up.........and then the demon host left like it finished him off

[strong gulch]

👀

[steel flame]

it was very strange to watch, took me a second to process what had happened

the trapper wasnt targeting him but the net just happened to hit him

thats some jank as shit right there

[strong gulch]

huh. Very weird.

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-coming-up-milhouse-flood-high-water-gif-3546059

[ornate hamlet]

I think I once got interrupted out of the peril explosion animation

[steel flame]

in other news, i just got a new surge staff. thanks hadron for not being a pain in the ass for once

[agile garden]

i'm talking about trauma staff

[steel flame]

wildfire is fantastic on fire trauma

[ornate hamlet]

I ogryn RPed for a moment there

[steel flame]

......... did i have an anurism?

[ornate hamlet]

For non-purgatus sources it's definitely a nice pick due to the lower rate of application

[steel flame]

what did you do?

i read that as something totally different

[ornate hamlet]

I thought it was referring to purgatus at first and answered accordingly

[steel flame]

oh yeah same page now

yeah youre dealing with less stacks of SB and a lower application rate on fire trauma meaning wildfire gets infinitely more value than on purgatus staff

i ran warp battery for a bit. sure the AB was stronger but the fire from the trauma had a bad habit of fizziling out during a horde

[agile garden]

Which would you choose? @near wyvern @steel flame

[ornate hamlet]

Bigger blast radius and good perks on the right

[grizzled iris]

You still up sterling wtf xD

[ornate hamlet]

Am going to sleeby real soon

Just kind of have a habit of finding shit to do on the computer

[lunar hollow]

such as being killed by a burster

[ornate hamlet]

I am a victim of ogryn RP

[lunar hollow]

i was on vet

[ornate hamlet]

you can get the josh out of the ogryn

but the ogryn stays in the josh

[lunar hollow]

true...

[ornate hamlet]

pillock

[lunar hollow]

hey u know the risks

when u ask to join

[ornate hamlet]

I am like a Reddit user

I will sign an agreement that I will be surrounded by awful people and then complain the people are awful

[lunar hollow]

if u cant handle me at my accidentally killing teammates because im fucking stupid u dont deserve me at my solo clutch

[cosmic sigil]

I just read on Reddit that force swords have a double push. The second being more powerful / long ranged.

Is that right?

[lunar hollow]

the push attack is a single target stagger

that does a lot of stagger

[cosmic sigil]

Well I survived a pack of 6 crushers by staggering them not that long ago...

[near wyvern]

The one on the right, change the Unarmoured into +5% crit chance

The charge rate is not great but I would value the blast radius over it

[strong gulch]

Force sword push attack also increases peril.

You kind of have to aim it and be positioned right. It's useful.

You can get hit between the time it takes to do a push and push attack.

[strong gulch]

I vote the right one.

[ornate hamlet]

Oh, you want to be handled

[agile garden]

Ty

[agile garden]

Ty

[steel flame]

2

the right one

[acoustic trench]

Anyone have experience using Blazing Spirit and Blood Thirsty on the Illisi force sword? If so is it as good as it sounds in my head?

[steel flame]

id put 5% more crit chance on it though

[cosmic sigil]

Well, you will kill fast with special + bloodthirsty and you cannot proce SB stacks on corpses. This why shred is recommended

[acoustic trench]

Doesn't shred only work for chained hits? Which I'm assuming is means chaining hits on a single target? How is shred good for dealing with a horde? (assuming they die real quick)

[plucky flax]

Gone but never forgotten

[steel flame]

chaining just means like consecutive hits

light light light

heavy heavy heavy

long as you dont break it with a block

or something else its consecutive

[acoustic trench]

I can mix the light and heavies up as long as I hit then right?

[steel flame]

light heavy light light, whatever

[acoustic trench]

Alright thanks.

[steel flame]

long as you dont block or quell

or push

[near wyvern]

Also after the first hit, hitting multiple opponents will yield several stacks of shred. DOT effects also increase your stacks each time they hit after you have done your first hit (unless they have ninja patched it out)

[cosmic sigil]

A grey Illisi is good at dealing with a horde

[near wyvern]

The only problem with blazing spirit illisi is that blazing spirit requires the enemy to survive the crit. If you have only a couple enemies in front of you that rarely happens cause illisi slaps so hard.

[strong gulch]

Yeah for sure.

[agile garden]

It's no good

When you kill stuff it won't catch fire and wildfire won't xfer it.

I never got it working

[steel flame]

it can fizzle out and never get going with bloodthristy since you just outright kill stuff with that

[mild lotus]

lewd talk outside of zealot chat

[uncut hamlet]

I couldv got

malleus monsronum

i was in a party with friends but it was technically a public match

rip

[acoustic trench]

lol I made that mistake while helping someone else do it, we did it like 3-4 times before realizing

[mild lotus]

Only warp chads unlocked the activement before it was made easier and in private lobbies.

[median vessel]

don't you love it when you're doing Damnation

and the veteran on your team refuses to take out anything that's in the backline, leaving your entire team to get fucked by a sniper

[mild lotus]

You pull out your brain burst or laspistol or revolver and deal with the threat.

[median vessel]

yeah but it's on shock troop gauntlet. It's annoying that there's too many for me to handle

[grizzled iris]

I did it after my entire team died, i killed the rest of the horde, elites and 2 specials then soloed boss

[plucky flax]

Veri pro

[harsh urchin]

this is why flamer is trash

because sometimes you just get teammates like that

and you need a weapon that can actually kill stuff

[restive slate]

It makes sense for a Zealot, Ogryn or even Vet to clutch but usually if everything is down to a Psyker then you know its a shit situation

[inland sand]

And yet psyker had all the tools to do it

[restive slate]

Depends, Psyker builds can be flexible but mostly is support or crowd control. Unless you go mad gunpsyker (one of my fave builds atm)

[latent stirrup]

flamer psyker is incredibly versatile

and great for clutches

[restive slate]

Flame is one of the most common for a reason

[latent stirrup]

also pumps out more boss dps than pretty much everyone else (except zealot with bonker, or vet with bolter)

[restive slate]

However I did have a match with 3 purgatus Psykers... Let's say the run did not go well

[latent stirrup]

y having 3 ppl trying to do the same job is kinda dumb

[restive slate]

They were all flaming the same horde and not even BB-ing ranged enemies

[plucky flax]

Vet is the worst at solo clutching. They are the best at preventing shits hitting the fan though.

[harsh gust]

which ones better

[latent stirrup]

base stats are so similar that i would make both blue

and then see how it goes from there

[plucky flax]

Grey is much better modifiers but blues got 1 great perk already. Both still need a lot of rng though

[warm mica]

Hello siblings !

[raven zenith]

this is fine.....

[velvet stratus]

Is terrifying barage actually good?

[harsh gust]

dead knife?

[lyric burrow]

no

slightly weapon dependant but i dont think ive seen anything run it over something else

[cosmic sigil]

how do you make bleed stacks with a psyker?

[harsh gust]

thought so

[cosmic sigil]

as far as i know you can't

[harsh gust]

theres another uh

blessing for it

applies 3 stacks

[cosmic sigil]

so probly put executor or haymaker

u

bleed stacks are not that great

i

especially without mercy killer

[mild lotus]

d

Why do put lonely letters between your messages?

[cold geode]

Enter key broken?

[cosmic sigil]

nah, i was typing the enter key by inadvertance

[feral verge]

No

It's effectively useless, especially on staves

It's like not having a blessing at all

Staves already suppress

[mild lotus]

What about second and third suppress?

[fluid knot]

That is why i often refer to the Purga' as the "Entry level" staff. Many players will just run about trying to burn shit, but not actually try to leverage the rest of the toolbox

[lunar hollow]

purg is what i used to learn how to play psyker on damnation

god bless having a built-in anti armor feature (made running dueling sword not as painful)

[feral verge]

Many purga and definitely most surge psykers suck

[mild lotus]

Laspistol rules

I cast zap zap

[spice veldt]

at least the surge VFX doesn't lie as hard to you anymore

[plucky flax]

[spice veldt]

it seems to only apply the blue scorching skin to enemies that actually got targeted by the surge instead of applying it to literally everything you hovered your crosshair over during the cast

though the lightning seems to move around with your movement instead of anchoring to the enemies that did get targeted

[strong viper]

seeking wisdom of the ancients.
Purgatus or BB for max boss damage.

[broken carbon]

i haven’t actually tested both individually but i think BB with cerebral lacerations and kinetic barrage is better

[spice veldt]

preferably a mix of both, but BB is better

[bronze ice]

i prefer trauma staff

[strong viper]

without barrage i feel miserable so I guess will stick to burn

[bronze ice]

its grown on me

does purga actually do good dmg to elites and bosses?

also yall does BB always cause 45% peril gain without the last feat?

or is there a way to reduce the cost

[spice veldt]

assuming that you're quelling, BB takes 3.25 seconds (2 seconds for the channel, 1 second of downtime after the cast, and 0.25 seconds for the quell)
Soulblaze does 238 DPS to Unyielding
BB does

• 770 dmg to daemonhosts, so 770/3.25 = 237 DPS
• 1100 dmg to plogryns/chaos spawns, so 1100/3.25 = 338 DPS
• 1540 dmg to beast of nurgle, so 1540/3.25 = 474 DPS

[bronze ice]

i can do 3 b4 hitting 100%

[spice veldt]

BB always costs that much unless you're running kinetic barrage and while ulted

[bronze ice]

ah gotcha

[spice veldt]

but you can always begin channeling BB from 97% peril and below and finish it safely

though the decimal values are hidden, so it's possible to blow up at 97%, so 96% is usually safer

if you ult with kinetic barrage and begin BBing from 0% peril, your 5th BB will begin at 97%, and it's safe to cast it there

[bronze ice]

oh gotcha

is there a way to reduce ult recharge time

[broken carbon]

yeah

[bronze ice]

how 😮

[broken carbon]

perk

uhhh

can’t remember name

[spice veldt]

lvl15: Psykinetic's Aura, lvl30: Quicken

[bronze ice]

it doesn't replace kinetic barragedoes it

[broken carbon]

but it’s 15% reduced on elite kill

[bronze ice]

oh ok

[broken carbon]

yeah what arco said

[spice veldt]

i like running psyk's aura personally

[broken carbon]

same

[mild lotus]

Basically BB is the goto when it comes to boss dps, no?

[broken carbon]

though cerebral lacerations is fun too

[spice veldt]

pretty much it seems

illisi/deimos is prob better against plogryn

though you'll need to have some APM for the illisi

[bronze ice]

apm?

[mild lotus]

Btw, how does BB fare against assassination targets?

[spice veldt]

basically just having some good fingers

[bronze ice]

ah gotcha

[spice veldt]

since you'll need to constantly quell with the illisi, and you can't quell while you're in the middle of the swing

so you end up having to animation cancel by either swapping off your melee or blocking

actually blocking is way easier now that i think about it

i'm not sure, but he does seem to take 2x or more melee damage to both his shield and hp

so better to just whack him anyways

[cyan notch]

melee is always the way if u can get in melee range

[mild lotus]

Worth it to special charge your melee?

[cyan notch]

illisi yes

[spice veldt]

against his flak sure, though with deimos you have the l1 and h2 anyways

illisi, i'm not sure since the force sword heavies are probably good enough single-target DPS

[bronze ice]

i thought l1 and h2 on deimos was for horde clearing

[spice veldt]

without testing it, i'd say that they're probably equal but spamming the illisi special is good for keeping your peril up

the deimos is the stabby stabby force sword with the hooked end

the l1 and h2 are the stabs

[bronze ice]

ohhhh

do yall prefer trauma or purga staffs

[mild lotus]

Obscurus?

[spice veldt]

i like trauma since it's more of a generalist staff, but purg is also good

[bronze ice]

from what i understand obscurus is middle of the pack and outperformed by both illisi and deimos

[spice veldt]

yeah i'd charge it on the obscurus

[bronze ice]

since they both specialize

ohhh

thats what he meant

[spice veldt]

obscurus is pretty much a worse deimos

[cyan notch]

uncharged illisi heavy does no damage

[bronze ice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-stanley-did-i-stutter-sarcasm-gif-3537210

[spice veldt]

it's good if you hit a weakspot

shit base damage but good weakspot multis

and you have to account for the time it takes to activate your special

[cyan notch]

charged does way more

[spice veldt]

illisi special deals ~500 damage to weakspots and normal heavies deal ~300 to weakspots

off the top of my head, it takes ~0.7 seconds for both the activation and swing

i think the swing is slightly shorter

[bronze ice]

u also have to account for the cool factor in activating the illisi special

[cyan notch]

u sure bout that 500 special damage

[spice veldt]

true

[bronze ice]

rule of cool is the end all be all of 40k

[spice veldt]

illisi special-heavy

illisi normal-heavy

[cyan notch]

i thought we were talking about bosses

[spice veldt]

i thought we were talking about the captain

[lethal folio]

Also bear in mind captain has a maximum damage per hit limit on the shield.

[spice veldt]

do you know off the top of your head if melee does 2x or 3x damage to the shield/hp?

[cyan notch]

well idc about the captain i thought it was bosses my bad

[spice veldt]

ooh nice

np

[cyan notch]

this chat still as hell i see

[spice veldt]

we will rule this world one day

[cyan notch]

when subclasses come in darktide 2 im sure

[steel flame]

i want me some bubble shields

im curious what the protectorate psyker class will be like

their armor looks cool

hope they have more than 100/100 health stats

[spice veldt]

1/1 stats

if the blitz/ult gives some nice defensive stuff, then i'd be fine with the 150/100 stats we currently have

[steel flame]

aight we have a hi intensity

[spice veldt]

@lunar hollow

[lunar hollow]

@spice veldt

[spice veldt]

hi binch

[lunar hollow]

ok dont post the clip with the god awful title u stupid cunt(s)

hoe

[spice veldt]

hey i haven't

but perhaps you shouldn't remind me of it

[lunar hollow]

i was asking u to because someone has not seen the context

and u said the knocked up thing

but ok just LIE about me

[spice veldt]

well

it's an accurate description

[lunar hollow]

No.

[spice veldt]

is it wrong to speak fax

[lunar hollow]

fuck you

[harsh urchin]

Damnit the weirdness is here as we

[mild lotus]

Pls be nice to Josho

[rich rose]

No 😛

[harsh gust]

how do i proceed?

on the perks

imma put pining fire on terrifying barrage

[plucky flax]

Maniacs flak my dood

[lyric burrow]

Yeah swap elites with flak

[harsh urchin]

You might wanna start with a better base

Dmg stopping power and ammo need to be 75-80

Those arent optional

Mobility and collat can be a bit lower, but the other 3 cant be

[plucky flax]

Mfw I'm using <70% damage and ammo on my autopistol on the veteran

[harsh urchin]

If you're running gunpsyker i would IMO be a bit more mindful about team ammo consumption

But thats just me

Vet is diff

Since they create ammo from thin air

[lyric burrow]

Stopping power is a little low since its what makes pinning broken

Its good enough till you get something better esp if you have pf 3+

[hidden crystal]

Honestly, raking fire is also kind of a bust for me, given how rarely the enemy aren't charging straight at you. Possibly useful for dealing with elites that are wailing on someone else, but having a shot on the back of the enemy is... it's not a strategy you can actually deliberately enact most of the time. (And if you are trying to enact it, your team is probably badly split up, stop it).

[lyric burrow]

Honestly i think pf is enough

Other stuff helps but pf could go with anything

[harsh urchin]

Ya if you're just starting out

80/80/80 with PF is a good start

[plucky flax]

Gunpsyker kinda sus anyway play vet to pew pew gud

[obtuse moth]

IMO it's not what class you are playing but whether there is a least a minimum of one veteran in your game

[harsh urchin]

it is because you can't guarantee a vet in your game and you can't guarantee coherency

especially since the alternate option for psykers consumes no ammo.

[obtuse moth]

Say you have multiple vets in your game, just because you are also a vet doesn't mean you can use any more ammo then you could just because you were there. in fact you may have to be more conservative

[harsh urchin]

yes, but you always build for the worst case scenario

it's easy to magdump extra ammo, it's not easy when everyone on the team is red

[obtuse moth]

That still makes the choice if vet: ammo usage scenario a. No vet: ammo usage scenario b.

[spice veldt]

vet does have a 40% bonus to their reserve ammo which also translates into 40% more ammo from all sources

[obtuse moth]

Rather than just if gunpsyker: ammo usage scenario b

[harsh urchin]

well you're comparing two scenarios

[obtuse moth]

That's true if rounding makes a difference in your gun

[harsh urchin]

1. Staff psyker uses 0 ammo 2. GunPsyker uses X amount of ammo (from the team supply)

Some games you'll find 3 ammo boxes and you'll have 2 vets.

Some games you'll find 0 ammo boxes, 0 vets and everybody will have red ammo.

In that case it's better to be mindful since you're playing a class that has the option to not use ammo at all.

[obtuse moth]

That's an argument in favor of playing based on conditions and not class

[harsh urchin]

Yes you should always adjust your strategy based on what is happening lmao

And as such, you should build in a way that makes your build setup more resilient to "shit happens"

I don't even know why I'm arguing this, it's literally common sense

[meager plinth]

For gunker you have to make sure the rest of your team has priority on ammo, since you got other tools to deal with threats

[near wyvern]

This whole argument makes no sense because gun and staff Psykers fill a very different role.

A gun psyker is a jack of all trades DPS with a focus depending on your gun:

• elites and specials (shredder / revolver / infantry autogun)
• ranged mobs (lasguns / headhunter autogun)
• even more jack of all trades (laspistol)

Why don't you just use a vet hurr durr, well cause psykers also bring a lot of tankyness with them if using a force sword.

Stave Psykers on the other hand bring a lot of CC and supression with some added damage, where the type and balance of the scale between CC and damage depends on the staff.

Two very different roles.

[mild lotus]

Tankyness?

[lyric burrow]

Psyker can be a tank with kinetic deflection (i think thats the name of the feat) and stuff like deflector

[spice veldt]

not being a chain smoker

and having BB

[lyric burrow]

Even kinetic shield is pretty strong for tanking

[mild lotus]

Chain smoker?

[spice veldt]

1.25 second stamina regen delay

compared to psyker's 0.5 second stamina regen delay

[harsh urchin]

Perhaps work on your reading comprehension

There is no argument about "roles" and stuff at all. The whole point was "You should try to get a high roll on the ammo stat on your gun if you're using autopistol"

[near wyvern]

Infinite Dodges... Perma stagger trash with push... Kinetic Deflection and you can face tank bosses... Deflector and you can even block ranged shots... Yeah, tankyness, but it's all behind active defence. Make a mistake you die but if you are good you are unkillable as long as you have space to move.

[harsh urchin]

Its a shame KD doesnt work on snipers

That wouldve been nice

[near wyvern]

Shredder is ammo hungry if you spam it like a maniac.

And on another note, I don't have two hours to read discord so apologies for not searching for the beginning of the discussion. I just saw some debate over "you are wasting ammo if you are not playing staff" which is not true. You are wasting ammo if you are wasting ammo. Then there are some guns where it's extremely hard to get rid of your ammo (infantry lasguns cough cough) just because they have so superb ammo economy.

[near wyvern]

Just... Dodge?

[harsh urchin]

no

i refuse

dodging is for scrubs

[steel flame]

just....die? instead?

[harsh urchin]

I hold down W+M1

[near wyvern]

I respect your decision but please don't team up with me

[harsh urchin]

yes, that way I can watch netflix on my other monitor

and still get ordos+plasteel

[harsh urchin]

oh yeah I agree

I was telling that guy he should aim for 80/80/80 in dmg, stoppingpower, ammo if he wanted shredder, just so he can put a little bit less pressure on the team ammo

[steel flame]

....

shredder is only ammo hungry if you make it be ammo hungry

[harsh urchin]

As a said previously, some games you're gonna have trouble with ammo

due to bad luck, class comp, hishock, etc

[steel flame]

that litterally every class with every gun minus infantry lasguns

shredder isnt special, its no differnt than having another zealot on your team

the ammo economy doesnt suddenly shift because the psyker brought a gun

[harsh urchin]

correct

[fresh panther]

I do run shredder when I play vet and don't have ammo issues but I am also not shooting literally every target with the thing

How you gonna farm power cycler 4 and never melee lol

[steel flame]

lol

[harsh urchin]

the ammo economy does shift though

especially since the difference between a good ammo roll and a shitty ammo roll on autopistol is 20% more ammo from vet passive

And anywhere from 10-15% from pickups

[mild lotus]

Ammo is rarely an issue ever from my perspective

[thick carbon]

Guys I think I need mental help. My headcanon wants to see the Judge zealot and Savant psyker grow fond of each other and become close friends.

[mild lotus]

what gender?

this changes everything

[thick carbon]

I honestly hadn't really thought about that. I just think they could have a really wonderful dynamic as the Judge seems to be starting to become remorseful of their treatment of ogryns and psykers while the Savant is very compassionate (if sometimes harsh) towards the zealots as well as the rest of the team without being as disconnected as the Seer.

[mild lotus]

the lines may be the same but the voices and the personality you imagine linked to the voices are widely different from male to female especially for zealot

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/9996wq

[mild lotus]

both male and female savant are relatively similar though

[thick carbon]

well either way, I think it could be a great and potentially hilarious dynamic between them.

[mild lotus]

Josho: sees any kind of camaraderie and kindness between two men
Also Josho: "Haha, homo"

[lunar hollow]

i fully support the blooming romance between male savant and judge

its the 41st millennium you bigot

[mild lotus]

did you just assume their sexuality?

[thick carbon]

don't feed my headcanon...

[lunar hollow]

i did not assume. i know.

[modern bronze]

au francais

ho ho ho

[mild lotus]

you're projecting your desires

[lunar hollow]

mittins has followed me here

[lunar hollow]

only partially

[mild lotus]

99% is partially

[modern bronze]

I too have a mouse that can click on chat channels

[lunar hollow]

im on mobile smh

[thick carbon]

I could definitely see them fall in love

[mild lotus]

a mouse for a mittens, ironic

[lunar hollow]

dont group urself with me

[modern bronze]

with ur little spindle fingers

[lunar hollow]

TRUE

[modern bronze]

ur skeletal little digits

[lunar hollow]

why do you do this

i just wanted to talk about voicelines

[modern bronze]

le french

[thick carbon]

and having little zealous psyker babies 🥺

[lunar hollow]

TRUE

[modern bronze]

plap plap etc

[thick carbon]

only issue is figuring out who the top would be

[mild lotus]

What is it with french you have?

[mild lotus]

the emperor of course

[thick carbon]

hot

[mild lotus]

but you went from "becoming close friends" to full on Josho homo fantasy

[thick carbon]

I CAN'T HELP IT, THE IDEA HAS BEEN PLANTED

[mild lotus]

use a defuse kit

[meager plinth]

The god emperor willed it

[lunar hollow]

i have this effect on people

[lunar hollow]

not a fantast. its true.

[mild lotus]

fantast

[thick carbon]

I can't deny that. if He hadn't wanted it, it wouldn't have happened

[meager plinth]

Exactly

Now we need more voice lines

And when the seasons drop we need a romance dlc for these two

[lunar hollow]

shut up you know what i was saying

[mild lotus]

yes, you were saying fantast

it's written above

[lunar hollow]

as the seer says

i'm going to hurt you

[meager plinth]

[mild lotus]

I would probably not feel a thing

[lunar hollow]

i am a credible threat

[mild lotus]

a sedition level groaner

staggered

[lunar hollow]

😦

[mild lotus]

on top of a deployed med pack

[fluid knot]

Wait but did he not want to be worshipped as a god tho?

[meager plinth]

Skill issue on his part

[thick carbon]

he secretly enjoyed it but had to uphold appearances at the time

[fluid knot]

Emperor confirmed narccisist

[meager plinth]

Nobody suprised

[thick carbon]

well now, I guess we've got lore on why we crash and why random veterans disappear all of a sudden and an Ogryn pops out of thin air

the seer's beloved is real

[fluid knot]

When the server crashes the Psyker just woke up

[thick carbon]

exactly

[lyric burrow]

How did we never see it

Fatshark knew what they were doing after all

[fluid knot]

C'mon now, lets not reach too far into lunacy

[mild lotus]

all according to the giant horned space rat's design

[lyric burrow]

This is psyker chat

[mild lotus]

I can't control it

[fluid knot]

Touche

[modern bronze]

Josho ten seconds after finding out someone is english

[lunar hollow]

psyker is the best class because u get to make all ur squad members uncomfortable with the high peril voicelines

[lyric burrow]

I think thats josho always

[modern bronze]

sometimes he says nice things while he's edging arco

[lunar hollow]

good lord

[modern bronze]

goodness gracious

[lunar hollow]

my heavens

[lyric burrow]

Well itd be kinda rude if he didnt

[stuck finch]

Gorgon HMG for psyker when?

[lunar hollow]

when vet gets ripper

[lyric burrow]

Youd never play another class

[lunar hollow]

i have been advocating for years to take all the water melting from the ice caps and just dumb it all over england

[fluid knot]

Make sure its England though an not the rest of the isles yeah?

[lunar hollow]

of course

the rest are fine

[modern bronze]

That is happening already u fool

[fluid knot]

free us from tyranny

[modern bronze]

Its called rain

U fool

U ape

[lunar hollow]

it needs to occur far faster

[mild lotus]

Imagine drowning england and letting welsh live

[modern bronze]

That's called heavy rain

U baboon

[lunar hollow]

i am willing to donate $72 towards buckets to drown england

[modern bronze]

U macaque

[fluid knot]

If it makes you feel better, the polticians will sink England long before the melting ice caps

[lunar hollow]

shut up u filthy miserable badteeth

[modern bronze]

U tangerine of a man

[lunar hollow]

beats his wife when his football team loses lookin ass

[lunar hollow]

TRUE

didn't liz truss get outlasted by lettuce

[modern bronze]

Ye

[fluid knot]

She did indeed

[modern bronze]

Long live our gracious veg

[lunar hollow]

dude when i search her name the first auto fill is "liz truss lettuce"

[fluid knot]

Now we gotta deal with slimy sunak

[lunar hollow]

LMFAO

if only you had the lettuce in office

it would be a utopia

[thick carbon]

• bri*ish

[uncut hamlet]

which lessing and perk would yall swap

[mild lotus]

I feel much better here with the mentally unstable rather than one chat above, with the mentally unhinged

[wanton tendon]

I feel betta one chat below with the mentally slow

Ogryn supremacy sparky

[mild lotus]

ogryn are ait

[wanton tendon]

[mild lotus]

except bully ogryn

[lunar hollow]

bodyguard ogryn best ogryn

one day he will drive a tank

[mild lotus]

who are you

[lunar hollow]

huh

[mild lotus]

you have josho's name and pfp but you speak sensible words

who are you?

[lunar hollow]

i am josho

[mild lotus]

more like Shojo

[harsh urchin]

I am spartacus

[lunar hollow]

ojsho

[lunar hollow]

doesnt that mean like 'girl' in japanese

[mild lotus]

indeed

[lunar hollow]

true

[steel flame]

the zealot demain is seeping into psyker chat, BEGONE DEMONS

[mild lotus]

it's Josho

I stay true to my psyk nature

[fiery plume]

Aside from the psykanarium, is there a way to see how much damage a warp charged force sword attack does?

[mild lotus]

no, only the psykhanium shows damage done unless you mod the game

[fiery plume]

I meant like in the attack breakdown menu but gotcha.

[steel flame]

sadly no

[cosmic sigil]

you need to install healthbars mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/16

[idle aurora]

Imo it's killing the thrill, since you know if like a crusher is 1 hp away from death, you just casually walk up to him and poke

And potentially can block ur vision on special troop gauntlets

[lyric burrow]

yeah idc if people run the mod but i do view it as kinda cheaty only cause it does a lot of target prioritization for you

since it does give you info that part of the difficulty is built around you not having/needing to keep track of yourself

but honestly its not game breaking enough for me to care that people use it

[idle aurora]

Man, i hope psyker is one of the 1st to get a subclass, ideally they would just release all 4, but that's asking to much probably lol

[mild lotus]

I doubt there ever will be subclasses

new archetypes, why not

[lunar hollow]

it's extremely likely there will be subclasses grouped under existing archetypes

datamined code from launch had it work like that, there were ogryn gunluggers and vet squadleaders

whether or not you would have to level a new character or if they would have shared inventories is unknown

[lyric burrow]

Id be shocked if we didn't get subclasses

Even if it wasnt till 2024

[lunar hollow]

i have to assume the next major thing on the menu is probably going to be that?

like at this point we've gotten maps, weapons, cosmetics, etc

but any major updates are probably coming after console release

[lyric burrow]

I'm guessing that or more weapons

Or maybe crafting change since they mentioned locks but idk if they want to change that

[lunar hollow]

there's probably going to be some overhauls to how crafting works

but they've been discussing that since before crafting actually became a functional mechanic

[lyric burrow]

Doing that would bring back half the lost player base from last few months

[harsh urchin]

100% you'll have to make a new char

And relevel and refarm weapons

At most you'll be able to reuse blessings

[lyric burrow]

Tbh i dont even mind that

[harsh urchin]

I still dont think the game needs new classes yet

[lyric burrow]

Levelling at least

We will see where crafting is at by then

[harsh urchin]

I think they need to fix mission select and improve crafting progression first

[lyric burrow]

True

I couldnt tell you what there priority list is though

[mild lotus]

Any way to prevent the bug that makes you rotate characters in the mission success/failure screen? It stops you from skipping steps.

[idle aurora]

It still exists? I haven't seen it for several month now

[mild lotus]

Got it twice in a row just now.

[idle aurora]

fatshark moment

[mild lotus]

also, I still have my "new item" dot in my cosmetic tab when I actually haven no new cosmetics, that's there since launch if I'm not mistaken

[idle aurora]

Oh yeah, this one is alive and kicking

Im kinda sad we dont have a portrait frame for 500k kills. We get one with green cloth at 25k and then red one at 1 mil

[mild lotus]

Portraits don't look too good overall anyway.

[idle aurora]

Im currently on the hunt for all the 250 missions complete, some of them are cool, investigation one is my fav

With servo skull, and green glow

[frozen osprey]

hazard hunter is the best frame

so glowey

[mild lotus]

Cast your eyes on this.

@full bane

[iron flicker]

Gun psyker moment?

[ornate hamlet]

HOLY AMMUNITION, AS I REQUIRED

[meager plinth]

ERR, HOW DO I RELOAD

[worn heron]

Niko

Let's go bowling

[full bane]

This is what I just got for my vet

[thick carbon]

what the... how did you get run n gun?

[steel flame]

so you can run and gun

duh

[thick carbon]

quiet veteran

the psykers are talking here

[steel flame]

now thats just rude, im a gunker thank you very much

[thick carbon]

in all seriousness though, I've never seen that on a laspistol.

[full bane]

I remember the run and gun effect being a passive thing on the Laspistol last time I played

Guess they shadow changed it or whatever

[lyric burrow]

Yeah they nerfed that

[steel flame]

its always been there

[full bane]

Shame it was pretty damn fun

[thick carbon]

I don't see it anywhere here.

[steel flame]

huh

take it back then

for whatever reason i mremeber it being there in the beta but maybe i was just imagining things

[thick carbon]

now my hopes of being a run n gun psyker are toast ;-;

[meager plinth]

new mandala effect dropped

[harsh urchin]

it might be t3 only fyi

[thick carbon]

that's literally t3

[harsh urchin]

oh

[thick carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-electric-car-gif-21193957

me rn

[thick carbon]

ded

[harsh urchin]

ded game

[steel egret]

[grizzled iris]

Pepsi

[thick carbon]

you know what would be hot? a Slaanesh x Seer fanfic

[grizzled iris]

Or pepsi

[compact cargo]

I refuse to write anything outside of Loner x reader

Been roasted for 80% of the date is simply too funny

20% was complaining about the imperium and been a heretic

[thick carbon]

I just wanna go on a date with the female Seer. she's so damn cute 🥺

[compact cargo]

I'd be more interested on Ogryns pedigree

[sudden isle]

what perks do I want on deimos for breakpoints?

flak/maniac?

[thick carbon]

unyielding and flak imo

[spice veldt]

if you do go for unyielding, i'd personally prioritize maniac over flak (because of mutants)

but maniac and flak seems more generally useful (mutants, dreg/scab ragers, maulers)

i guess if you're annoyed with reapers dying too slowly

[sudden isle]

ty ty

[plucky flax]

Maniac carapace

[thick carbon]

how did I do? the perk I replaced was originally +1 stamina

I'd put Warp Flurry on if I had it for Trauma

[grizzled iris]

You want 25 unarmoured 25 flak 80 charge rate. Focused channeling and warp flurry

So you didn't hit a single mark

[thick carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[harsh gust]

hows this

[fiery plume]

If you have Uncanny stacks up, does soulfire also have 100% rending?

Aka: Would it wreck the hell out of crushers?

[spice veldt]

ye, though you'd have to juggle maintaining the soulblaze stacks on the crushers (8 seconds before soulblaze begins to decay) and your uncanny strike stacks

it won't necessarily wreck them since soulblaze's single-target DPS is meh, but it's nice for groups of crushers

[fiery plume]

That's fair. Was mostly curious if I could do a full blast purgatus into a mixed horde, swap to melee, and watch them burn. Or just use the ascendant blaze thing.

But that's interesting to know. Thanks fellas.

[bold flint]

goated melk axe?

[plucky flax]

You can go blaze trauma but I like + flak. + carapace doesn't do too much.

[bold flint]

what do i put on that axe, flak?

[glad thorn]

https://i.gyazo.com/58a0f709bf5e3f50969085fd968d45e3.jpg

[shadow onyx]

near god indeed

but rashad + low mobility

[plucky flax]

Kinda sick

Sick weapon charm too

[shadow onyx]

yeah