psyker-class

[white sky]

Which is probably getting swapped soon

[lyric burrow]

i need to use those more but they always felt a little weird to me

[white sky]

If you like CAxe

Think of it as a trade of damage for mobility

[lyric burrow]

Ive been running revolver recently

So maybe that could be a fun combo

[shadow onyx]

caxe is probably the best designed weapon imo

simple straight forward

[lyric burrow]

Brutal momentum kinda breaks it

Admittedly

[white sky]

Taxe also gets BM

BM as a blessing is either gonna be broken or shit imo

[lyric burrow]

Yeah making the single target wep be able to horde clear is pretty strong

Isnt bm on taxe still good

[harsh urchin]

BM i'm predicting will get adjusted similar to the thammer enemy hit mass one

[white sky]

I'm not huge on zealot so please enlighten me.

[harsh urchin]

so from:
ignore enemy hit mass on weakspot kill
to
ignore 25% enemy hit mass on weakspot kill, 4 stacks max

or something

[harsh urchin]

thammer one is -40% enemy hit mass on kill iirc

[white sky]

That's probably way healthier

[harsh urchin]

at least, that's how i would nerf it without killing it

lololol

[shadow onyx]

caxe dont need bm to function

[white sky]

Well cause in its current state it's either gonna do everything or nothing

[white sky]

It totally changes the weapon imo

CAxe without BM isn't a pocket powersword

[harsh urchin]

yep, force people to stack it up

is probably the best way to go

[shadow onyx]

its one of the rare weps in the game you play it on grey and it still do the job

[harsh urchin]

and it enforces the "momentum" aspect

[white sky]

Idk, cause I personally fo not like Caxe without BM

The only single target melee weapon I love is Deimos

Cause it reminds me of Saltz Rapier

[fluid knot]

I quite enjoy the Alchys C'axe, but i know not many do despite it having an excellent damage profile

[white sky]

It's the moveset

[harsh urchin]

a lot of the class specific weapons are so disappointing lmao

like the dueling sword

[fluid knot]

Yeah nah i know that, but its a fun thing to delete ragers an problem specials with

[harsh urchin]

i still think the infinite dodge thing should be dueling sword exclusive not force sword exclusive

no idea why force sword gets that lmao

[white sky]

I don't think anything should dodge like the Force Swords ngl

[fluid knot]

Well duelling sword has the biggest dodges dont it so thats the tradeoff

[shadow onyx]

yeah duellist is far safer

for huge dodges

[fluid knot]

Its not safer vs something with unlimited dodges, at all, but its much better for repositioning yourself

[shadow onyx]

you dont need unlimited dodge its a meme

[fluid knot]

Thats a contributing reason to why psykers are stupidly cracked in melee with forceswords

[harsh urchin]

you do with the dueling sword

cuz it doesn't do shit

LOL

[shadow onyx]

imo beside ilisi they are fine

[harsh urchin]

I dont think illisi is imbalanced

I think it's mainly slaughterer

slaughterer + horde clear weapon

you see the same case with BM axe and PS slaught

slaught pushes the breakpoints to the point

where the weapon doesn't suffer at all against non-horde

[fluid knot]

Illisi actually feels well balanced before blessings ngl, its out the box a usuable and good weapon, which should be the case for everything. No weapon, ideally, should need blessings to be playable

And sadly, many of them do

[shadow onyx]

but fatshark doesnt know how to make a balanced game

so here we are

[white sky]

Illisi is insane to me, feels like a PS on crack cocaine

[harsh urchin]

well it's a PvE game

[shadow onyx]

and?

[harsh urchin]

so balance isn't a huge priority

for them

[white sky]

I really hate the "balance doesn't matter in a PvE game argument"

[fluid knot]

Yeah its a fallacy

[harsh urchin]

it does matter lmao

i think it does matter

[fluid knot]

If everything is cripplingly broken, then the playerbase dies quicker than it did on launch

[harsh urchin]

but i can see why developers of PvE games generally priopritize balacne a bit less

[white sky]

Even if you do it's an argument I've unironically heard multiple times in this discord

[harsh urchin]

unless it's negatively affecting the player experience

[shadow onyx]

they play in t3 how they could possibly know issues of balance in the game

"well evis is fine, i play in t3 its ok"

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-lost-confused-uh-gif-5916341

[fluid knot]

Its kinda understandable yes, but whats frustrating in this situation is that many changes are just a matter of increasing or decreasing some values where they're needed. Granted i can forgive a bit of time to sus out exactly what needs doing, but long term nah, thats something they could likely do in a single patch. There are very few weapons that need a full rework

[harsh urchin]

yar

they could

but they're so mismanaged

that I am doubtful

that they can get it done

within 2023

[white sky]

There are weapons in DT to where someone can literally solo carry damnations

Hi shock damnations

[fluid knot]

That is unfortunately the crux of the situation, bad managerial selection has really run them ragged

[white sky]

Which I personally do not think should be possible

[fluid knot]

Idk, it should be, but the defining feature of that should be player skill level, not OP weapons (But yeah, the required skill level should be high as fuck)

[shadow onyx]

only bad dev could possibly think that, VT2 have perfect example of how broken stuff impact gameplay and negatively for every teammate
look how broken sister of thorn was or spam moonbow

[white sky]

Idk man, I think there should be a difficulty that irregardless of how good you are you're forced to cooperate with the team for success

[fluid knot]

That would be nice, but i struggle to see that ever being the case, there is always a small subset of players who are miles above the average an no matter what you do as a dev, those players are still in with a good shot

An tbh i dont hate that, if a player has earned that level of play, more power to em

[white sky]

I suppose, but I've never seen one of those in DT that wasn't just using a PF Shredder or Bolter with some busted ass melee

[fluid knot]

Can't say ive seen many solo Damnation/HISTGs so i will defer to you on that, but i agree the weapons should not be the ticket to it

[white sky]

I have a couple of times. I've been in games where I literally stop participating cause someone who actually is good is using a Shredder AP and killed literally everything before I had a chance to

It's why I hate the thing so goddamn much

[shadow onyx]

i never saw a true solo t5 HI but there is some guys here saying the game is too ez

its not easy, you ust being good with 1000h in this game

[fluid knot]

Well there is some crossover with good teams, like if your team all knows what they're doing and is playing well, game is pretty easy, but being able to solo that is a whole other level

[shadow onyx]

put any rando in t5 80% will get smashed

just look at the stats

[fluid knot]

Thats the general reason most do, if you can stop playing for 20minutes an twiddle your thumbs because someone can do it all on thier own, then mightas well go play summat else

[fluid knot]

No doubt, thats certainly the case, but thats not the point, a good team does make T5s easy, but that means the WHOLE team has to be good, very rare is it that one sided where on carries the whole game

[white sky]

And fwiw, I've never seen it outside Bolter or Shredder

[lyric burrow]

ive come to really hate bolter

[harsh urchin]

i can do it with a braced auto

keke

[lyric burrow]

i dont even play cause the vet can just mag dump

everything gets deleted

[plush fossil]

If I do play... I am usually rear-guarding while on the move with the person in front with a shredder.

and 7 times out of ten... nothing will happen in the rear unless it is Hi-int G.

[north solstice]

i kinda want the opposite of elite resistance, instead of having a few enemies with high stats i want a shit ton of enemies with lower stats

[shadow onyx]

i dont think the game is easy, its definitely easier with some meta weapons but if you are bad with thammer or deimos, if you make a mistake of placement while reloading with bolter or get surrounded in a corner by crushers with caxe you can be rekt anyway.

Thats the difference between OP and meta, OP break the rules in the game, it makes you do thing that are not designed for.

PS was not only broken for stats, but because it totaly nullify supposed weakness for vet

[white sky]

I personally think DT is exactly as easy or hard as your team makes it

[plush fossil]

I want, Hi-intensity Elite resistance for the pain factor.... but more importantly I want hordes to spawn mixed units instead of just poxers and groaners.

[harsh urchin]

that will happen in 6s

[shadow onyx]

just like flamer cancel any threat in ranged....for a melee focused class

[plush fossil]

Good....

[harsh urchin]

in vermintide that's the main difference between legend and cata

cata hordes have zerkers + elites mixed in

i believe

so your melee needs to be a bit better

[plush fossil]

Hell even if the hordes was a dense blob of regular scab or dreg melee with elites mixed in, that would be cool.

[north solstice]

i want hordes to be like double the amount of pox walkers

my lizard brain loves killing lots of tiny things

[shadow onyx]

vermintide is so much better in almost every way design wise.

they put some of the most boring aspects in vt2 and put it in darktide

[plush fossil]

My small brain loves the sound of melee when it hits scab flak armor.

[shadow onyx]

like minos are just not fun, you barely can dance it, it spam non stop broken swings 180 what they do for DT ? lets put the same idea for chaos spawn

its not that its hard

its just boring

[white sky]

The literal only aspect of DT thats better is how clean combat itself feels

[harsh urchin]

guns

i love guns

the staged reloads

[north solstice]

were you able to sprint in VT my memory is foggy

[white sky]

Play BH Saltz

[harsh urchin]

and the weightiness

[white sky]

No

[harsh urchin]

of certain weapons

like the bolter

[white sky]

But you moved faster by default

[north solstice]

DT > VT

solely for sprinting

[harsh urchin]

i think dt has the best gunplay out of any game i've played period

[north solstice]

i dont make the rules sorry

[white sky]

Dude one of my favorite games of all time is New Vegas

Sprinting literally doesn't exist

I don't even know what a shift key is

[shadow onyx]

i disagree, combat is ultra wonki because any foes is wonki

the stagger is totaly broken in darktide, more than vt2
the spawns are wonki in DT more than vt2 , especialy when almost half your kill is shooters with aimbot through grids

[north solstice]

tbh i like the hub in VT moreso than DT

the keep is just so cool

[harsh urchin]

the DT hub is truly ass

[north solstice]

and every character having some sort of personal bed was a cool touch

[shadow onyx]

doggos and muties supposed fixed ? lel

[harsh urchin]

kekeke

[shadow onyx]

still wonki

[harsh urchin]

i get that they tried to make it a global hub

for many people

[lyric burrow]

mutants have been fine for me dogs are still ass

[harsh urchin]

but it just falls flat

[lyric burrow]

doesnt help player base is a little low

[shadow onyx]

the 360 / wall clipping muties is still fucking annoying

[lyric burrow]

i think its 3k ish but it doesnt fill the mourningstar

[north solstice]

wholly fatsharks fault tbh

[plucky flax]

Game is dead mane

[shadow onyx]

it will revive in one or two years

when no more beta state

like vt2

[north solstice]

hopefully they do it sooner rather than later otherwise the game may never actually be able to right itself

[lyric burrow]

yeah game will probably be fine itll just take like 2 years

[near wyvern]

It falls flat cause you can't jump in it and because you still go through menus. Either have just menus or go in all the way (team needs to meet up at valk to go on mission, remove lobby screen...)

[plucky flax]

Still waiting for melee veteran class with shout ability aka kruber mercenary

[north solstice]

still waiting for a biomancer psyker

for a true support ;-;

[plucky flax]

[near wyvern]

Bromancer

The best support in the game is if you can solo carry

I guarantee you all the three others will feel lifted

[plucky flax]

Solo clutch my favourite

[north solstice]

imo i hate when one person hard carries for the entire mission

no make me feel good :(

unless its me

because im fucking amazing

[harsh urchin]

The other issue is that there's nothing to do in the hub

it's not like vt where you can smack training dummies or do jump puzzle

you literally just stand around

idk how i would fix it

but the design is just extremely half baked currently

[plush fossil]

Maybe stuff to make the mourningstar seem more "homely"... as much as that can be applied in the grimdark that is 40k

[harsh urchin]

they need to rework vet before they can add new classes i think

[white sky]

Just copy drg and put a bar in the mourning star

[harsh urchin]

vet passive currently is too gamebreaking

changes the ammo economy for your entire team

playing with a vet and playing without a vet = everyone plays differently

[white sky]

Tbf it's no more gamebreaking the Ranger Bardin, you just actually had to pick that up

[fluid knot]

Remove that 75%DR bullcrap

Its atrocious

Stupidly designed skill

[white sky]

At least make it like 30 percent lmao

[plucky flax]

Yeah true. Free ammo too op. But I don't play autopistol psyker so idc ammo.

[plush fossil]

or maybe make it apply only to ranged?

[fluid knot]

Nah, replace it with a different thing entirely, class has 200% toughness of a fuckin Ogryn

[white sky]

It's only on toughness

[whole hornet]

You can look at the clock in the shop tick down to see another set of random weapons and curios

[white sky]

So it kinda already only applies to ranged

[harsh urchin]

well they nerfed the zealot 75% toughness DR

[white sky]

And Ogs have 3x Vets HP, toughness doesn't represent an actual toughness stat

[harsh urchin]

but let vet keep it

kekeke

[plush fossil]

I see... so uhhh yeah maybe make it lower I would say... probably tops 50%

[white sky]

Yeah, it should be like

30 ish percent

45 tops imo

[harsh urchin]

eh i think 50% is fine

75% is just nuts tho

[white sky]

I already use ET instead of CK on Vet, so it's not like I'm gonna notice much

[plush fossil]

So does someone with unwavering focus and 3 stacks of exhilarating takedown take no toughness damage?

[harsh urchin]

no it's multiplicative

they take a tiny little bit of dmg

[plush fossil]

but still holy emperor, that is astartes level of DR

[harsh urchin]

.25*.7 = they take 17.5% damage

[fluid knot]

Even at 50% the problem is still present. It facilitates sitting still like a morass and being immobile for extended periods of time, you shouldnt just be able to facetank because the toughness regen perks Vet has access too are still punching that bar back up constantly, its gamebreaking for a ranged character to remove all the need for positioning and movement

[plush fossil]

If they were to lower the DR substantially, I would like some maps have a bit more cover in place.

[fluid knot]

There is already enough cover, people are just so used to the massive DR buff that they havent learned to use it effectively

Or rather, havent needed to

[plush fossil]

yeah like it was never needed for pre-patch enclavum baross

[harsh urchin]

there is enough cover + enough ways to play against shooters lol

it becomes evident if you play zealot

[whole hornet]

Short model meta for more cover

[harsh urchin]

you have to utilize slide + cover

to effectively kill shooters

[whole hornet]

Zealot slide is also ranged invincible though haha

[fluid knot]

I never had a problem with the cover myself, the change to cover was to compensate for the increase in enemy volume and spawn points

[plush fossil]

As a very tall zealot, I have learned the importance of looking downward when behind low cover

[harsh urchin]

sliding also causes enemies to reset aggro momentarily

[plush fossil]

That is also fair

[whole hornet]

All but Oggy do get DR when sliding though tbf

[fluid knot]

After learning to play shotgun Vet with Deadshot +DnD, the whole concept of the class changed a lot for me, its really fuckn evident in games where you have to be hyper mobile to both deal effective damage and stay alive, whilst the other vet in the team is standing still plinking away at shit that cant physically kill him

That is a glaring issue

[whole hornet]

Deadshot + DnD my beloved

[fluid knot]

The class has a potentially very high skill ceiling, but running that DR feat lowers it to an inch off the plush carpet

[harsh urchin]

I really dislike ogryn lmao

it's the only char which i haven't played much

the melee weapons are just utter dogshit

none of the melee feels good

the ranged i think is pretty nice

[whole hornet]

Very much yeah, DnD can be really fun with dodge slidining

[fluid knot]

Play with shovel a bit, it has some very unique plays nothin else can do, you can stunlock a spawn in place too which is hilarious

[harsh urchin]

like what

[whole hornet]

Bull cleaver ogryn is ofc most meta but yeah I don't like the feel of the clubs that much

Bleed maul is apparently fun, yet to try tho

[plush fossil]

I think ogryn has some nice melee weapon special attacks and I enjoy those way more than the actual weapon.

[fluid knot]

Put all melee specials on their ass, keep spawn and potentially plogryn from doing anything, bullies orgyns, decent enough in horde though the 3 target cap is a little painful, its similar to a Vet shovel in that its got massive utility

Sec i'll getchu a video of spawn

https://youtu.be/5Y98IqFxcMw

[harsh urchin]

that's pretty funny

[plush fossil]

That is great

[harsh urchin]

do you need blessings for that

[fluid knot]

Nope

The base weapon does that

[plush fossil]

Brb

Getting a shovel

[harsh urchin]

does shovel ignore target cap

if you trigger BM

[fluid knot]

It does not

[harsh urchin]

rip

[fluid knot]

BM on shovel is either non-functional, or if it is, a waste of a blessing slot, though it has a massive amount of stagger just on lights an heavies so even if you're not damaging everything, most of it aint fighting back for a second

[full bane]

Paul is probably Ogryn’s second best melee weapon

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/paul-phoenix-workout-tekken5-tekken-victory-gif-24926651

[harsh urchin]

@feral verge tested for a bit of using laceration > communion

laceration feels great on bosses

but you really feel the lack of communion due to having to rebuild your stacks

feel like i'm gonna go with 1 for now, since managing stacks is pretty annoying lol

[lyric burrow]

Yeah ive found keeping 6 stacks up to be more annoying than i thought

Without communion

Even 4

Im just not BBing often enough to keep them up without communion

[lyric burrow]

anyone have any fun melee builds i could use? generally if i want to use the not really good melee weapons its like catachan but ive used my fair share of that now

knife always interested me im just not sure what to pair it with/what its meant to do

[crystal jolt]

think there's some dueling sword fans in here

heard that's fairly fun

[lyric burrow]

i have used that

debating pairing it with my revolver or something

[harsh urchin]

wouldn't play that with the psyker prob

maybe knife+trauma

[fathom adder]

tfw I slept on the knife thinking it was a gimmick zealot weapon that was gonna be nerfed Soon(TM)

[weak mulch]

the peril blocking plus knife is rediculously op

[lyric burrow]

yeah pairing it with a staff makes sense

[weak mulch]

but only melee blocking

[lyric burrow]

so is knife meant for single target

[harsh urchin]

no

knife does everything

it's mainly meant for movement

[lyric burrow]

ah i see

[weak mulch]

u can cancel stamina drain while still running

[lyric burrow]

tbh i mostly wanted a build to prove to myself that i know how to play melee lol

[harsh urchin]

the single target is decent, but it's a pretty hard weapon to use

[weak mulch]

using dodge

its not patchable

hard to learn too

[harsh urchin]

you need to do push-attacks and combo lights/heavies

[weak mulch]

what would make this perfect knife

i use for zealot so dif than psyker knife but strongest one i have

[harsh urchin]

ok so basically

knife has a very interesting damage table

[weak mulch]

doesnt the block attack do most dmg

without any buffs

[harsh urchin]

correct

a weakspot crit will kill everything

so most people build around that

[weak mulch]

if you can shatter armor with a friendly bolter or use blade on zealot it can do that to any mass similar to the axe

idk if i like axe or blade more but the movement dodge bug made me pick knife

but the axe dps better for single strike

[harsh urchin]

I dont actually know how to build a knife

i think there's otehr people here who might be able to help more

I just know the basic mechanics of how to play it lol

it's an interesting weapon, not my type

[weak mulch]

ive built my blade on spamming crits and bleed for zealot sadly they nerfed the crit toughness damage reduction from 75% to 50% on crit but still decent

[harsh urchin]

ye spamming lmb doesnt really cut it anymore

[weak mulch]

i spam shift/quickrelease heavy

for charge attack

if you can cancel it after it slows you down with a dodge you can loop sprint with stamina regenning and not lose any

after the charge heavy of course but you will be faster than anyone else

thats not a good or bad thing as you can run to save people or run into death

you have to look to right or left and tap space and easy to mess up

also if you're insane you can mix sliding with it

but that can fuck your pinky up without rebinding

[ornate hamlet]

does the shoot fast penance not work ?

i was on heresy popinbg hounds and it did fuck all

[weak mulch]

penacnce's are fucking around with multiple ppl

just wait cus i got mine even when crashing

and not able to see endgame at extraction

if not complain

[feral verge]

I ran communion before chaos spawn update.

Now following that update, I think I'll always have it on

It's also very comfy for 2 shoting reapers

I'm willing to deal with having to farm for warp charges every once and awhile

[maiden knoll]

Which do you take for the first feat to regain toughness?

[white sky]

Quietude or however it's spelled

Quell to gain toughness

[grizzled iris]

Today was a good day I guess.
Wasn't even planning on playing today, but I managed to get 3 weapons at rating 540+ exceding all my previously owned weapons.

[meager plinth]

niiice

[plucky flax]

But are the perks good?

[shadow onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-ohearn-gif-5978288995841027384

[delicate walrus]

should i bother seeing what the last blessing is, or are the perks irredeemable? i dont know much about illisi, but ive heard 25% maniac is important? idk there is a second perk that it really needs

[shadow onyx]

i would try

• ilisi have a lot of options

you could have deflector, slaughterer, bloodthirsty or unstable power

the ideal would be slaughterer

so you can pick any of the other mentioned at your convenance

[near wyvern]

Unyielding is a bit meh on illisi but if you have T4s to bank you should check out the orange

[shadow onyx]

why keeping unyielding instead of weak spot ? you have huge weak spot multiplier na ?

i would keep weakspot and remove unyielding

you have BB for ogryns

[near wyvern]

Weakspot damage perk is garbage

[delicate walrus]

aight ill save up some plasteel for orange, i think ive only got blazing spirit and executor unlocked for t4s atm

weakspot -> maniac i assume for perks then?

[ornate hamlet]

Granted, the illisi does have a massive weakspot bonus and unyielding is kinda not useful on it

[near wyvern]

If you deal normally 100 damage and 150 on weakspot, +10% weakspot damage will make it 100 + 50*1.1 = 155 and not 165 which you would expect

[ornate hamlet]

It's rare for a psyker to want to engage unyielding enemies on melee, considering they consist of reapers and bosses

[delicate walrus]

sounds like real best option is just keep trying for a diff illsi with less shit perks 😔

[near wyvern]

All monstrosities are unyielding so there is that. Bulwakrs are probs the most likely unyielding you are going to hit. You should be able to kill a bullwark with 1 BB into illisi special heavy, with +unyielding and some warp charges you can probs do it with special light

For Illisi the best perk set is +maniac +flak

[delicate walrus]

ok so its just like everything else, nothing fancy for unarmored BPs? does flak actually hit important breakpoints or the defensive ones worth considering?

[harsh urchin]

still worth upgrading to orange if youre fishing

[near wyvern]

But +weakspot and +crit damage are garbage. The only gun that may use those is probs the revolver since I think it got buffed to 100% on weak spot and crits

[shadow onyx]

6-7% overall dmg is better than 20% vs 3 ennemies that you can deal easily with your base tool kit

[ornate hamlet]

Thing is, illisi is beyond 100% weakspot and crit

I think at 80% it gets like 2.23x or something

[near wyvern]

No really if you are one shotting things anyway. It only matters if you can reach a beakpoint.

[shadow onyx]

true

[ornate hamlet]

Generally it's a medicore perk, but in a weapon like this at least it can capitalize on the huge numbers it already has

[shadow onyx]

but you have more chance with 6-7% on any ennemies than vs only 2 + monstrosities

to hit breakpoints

need some research

if it dont reach any significant breapoint yes its garbo

[near wyvern]

I mean it's not terrible weapon either way, a 370+ illisi will slap well if you patch a Slaughterer on it. I have mine +flak +maniac 370+ already with built in Slaughterer but would still roll that sword to orange to look for the last T4 I am missing (executor I think)

[shadow onyx]

if he hit slaughterer t3 /t4 its a very very good ilisi

its worth to gamble the orange

[near wyvern]

I would still do the unyielding over weakspots but I also run kinetic deflection and am always tanking bosses so it would suit me personally better

[shadow onyx]

i rarely use ilisi but i have this and its fine

[delicate walrus]

well the game i just ran ended up being last 10 plasteel short of enough to upgrade again, so we go again i guess

[shadow onyx]

lol

rngesus

[warm latch]

What is the best suge staff blessings and perks? anyone know?

[harsh urchin]

oh no that finesse roll

[near wyvern]

So with 2.23 weakspot multiplier, the damage with +10% weakspot compared to without is (2.23 + 1.23*0.1)/2.23 = 1.055

So 5.5% more damage...

[shadow onyx]

ye

dont care i barely use it

[ornate hamlet]

over an extra warp charge of damage to anyone whose head you click

[near wyvern]

Surge staff blessings are all quite mid but the best ones would be flurry and nexus, nexus being the more important part since surge has low charge cost but high cast cost

[harsh urchin]

nexus is crit

flurry is charge

they all kinda suck ya

[near wyvern]

And since charge cost is fixed peril per second, improving your charge speed reduces your charge cost by the same %

[warm latch]

ok sweet thanks! should I worry About getting a high damage% roll on it? or is it just used to stun everything?

[weak mulch]

ok guys do i take this feral ass cat that put my cat at risk for infection to animal control or contact owner to never let it outside it has also broken into my house for months

i do not want to end up getting more mad at it either

[shadow onyx]

crit doesnt affect secondary surge right ?

only primary ?

[harsh urchin]

how is it getting in

[near wyvern]

High warp resist and quell speed, high damage is always nice but not mandatory for the function of the staff

[weak mulch]

breaking in

vent

the laundry tube before too

windows

[harsh urchin]

jfc ye take it to the shelter lol

[near wyvern]

Crit does affect secondary I think

[warm latch]

something like this?

[weak mulch]

it made my cat have a scar on face

[near wyvern]

Haven't played surge in a while tho

[near wyvern]

Change +8% elite into flak and upgrade Nexus to T4 when you can, it will do well. Just carry Illisi with you cause this boy will only tickle the horde.

[weak mulch]

im not the only person in my town

either

that that fuck does ts to

[warm latch]

👍

[weak mulch]

its fucking with me and i almost made it have an eye for a eye making my cat bleed and cry

risk for reward and innocence for being a feral "animal" nah thats not how it works hurting my animals

justifies cruelty but its still cruelty

if i were to protect my cat

the more primal way

is it creulty if it acts feral and like a pest tho no

[harsh urchin]

it's wild right

or does your neighbor tecchnically own it

[weak mulch]

owns

but did not train

[harsh urchin]

IMO, i dont think you should kill it

[weak mulch]

unless its from a bad home

[harsh urchin]

just trap it

[weak mulch]

no

[harsh urchin]

drive like 20 min away

[weak mulch]

i didnt say kill

[harsh urchin]

and drop it somewhere

[weak mulch]

i said eye for an eye

[harsh urchin]

so it can't come back

[weak mulch]

my cat could die from infection

so iwanted to hurt it same way it hurt my cat

not kill

[harsh urchin]

ya so did u catch it

[weak mulch]

followed it home and found owner on faceboo

k

[harsh urchin]

just catch it, drive like 20-25 minutes away

[weak mulch]

hunted it

[harsh urchin]

and plop it down somewhere

where it can't find its way back

[weak mulch]

farm tactic isnt fullproof

[harsh urchin]

it isnt

[weak mulch]

not with cats

atleast rare cases

had one cat since i was born

[harsh urchin]

but tbh your goal is just to get it away from your cat

[weak mulch]

make it past 19

[harsh urchin]

because this guy didnt train his cat at all

lmao

[weak mulch]

and it literally cmae back before from that

[tropic vigil]

should i even bother buying this "perfect" curio?

[harsh urchin]

perfect in what way?

[weak mulch]

probably will have to call animal control and report what its done around town

after i catch it

[tropic vigil]

"perfect" being tier 4 perks, discounting the fact that its wounds

[weak mulch]

because if it attacks ppl and acts like that in general when id see it in my house middle of night it would go insane and aggro until it could escape

[harsh urchin]

i mean if you find it useful then go for it

[weak mulch]

bad bad

[harsh urchin]

i don't use wound or revive speed

[harsh urchin]

ya i'm telling you

[weak mulch]

wound can stop some bs instakills

[tropic vigil]

revive speed comes in handy quite a bit.

[harsh urchin]

should just catch it and drop it far far away

cuz animal control isnt gonna do shit

they're just gonna talk to the owner

[weak mulch]

around here they take

[harsh urchin]

owner is gonna be like "ye ok"

[weak mulch]

if they attack

[harsh urchin]

ah ok

u can lie

then

tell animal control it attacked both you and your cat

[tropic vigil]

i used to like running wound but honestly after using double health instead, double health is better i think. it forces you to actually play carefully.

[harsh urchin]

and then they should take it away

[weak mulch]

that wouldnt be a lie lol

its terrortial over food

[harsh urchin]

well then do it

lol

[weak mulch]

so it acts primally

only reason it would come in is for food since i got cat as kitten

never showed up before

[harsh urchin]

i use stamina/hp/toughness

[tropic vigil]

nice. i found once you use stamina theres no going back.

[weak mulch]

do u use stamina regen and toughness regen

speeder boost

[harsh urchin]

yes I do lol

I have 1 roll of stamina regen, 3 rolls of toughness regen, 1 gunner, 2 sniper

[weak mulch]

thatd be broken with zealot's toughness dmg reductions

prenerf

take less than half damage plus that

[harsh urchin]

Well its all multiplicative

On zealot I run different curios

[lyric burrow]

is this knife worth using

idk much about the knife meta

[weak mulch]

yea id just add crit chance instead of unarmoured

[lyric burrow]

blessings?

[weak mulch]

crit or the bleed ones

or this one

that haymaker

[lyric burrow]

so should i keep riposte then

[weak mulch]

yea

punch isnt that good

cant stun all enemies

especially ragerxs

haymaker is super good on harder difficulty

if u spam heavy attack

but thats personal preference

[weak mulch]

but you can charge with heavy

[meager plinth]

haymaker 1shotting a damnation mauler

[weak mulch]

yep

[fluid knot]

If your first thought is to go out an harm another animal because your cat had a fight with it, you shouldnt own animals.

Cats fight, thats just part an parcel of owning one.

[weak mulch]

but in my home

[fluid knot]

And?

[weak mulch]

pesr

pest

[fluid knot]

If your first thought is hurting it, you shouldnt even own a cat in the first place

[weak mulch]

laws work differently around different lands

not first thought

[delicate walrus]

@near wyvern @shadow onyx got a 4 so was worth, even if its not a great one

[weak mulch]

but if ur cat would be at risk

wouldnt you want to equalize the risk

atleast im honest

[harsh urchin]

to be fair, the cat crawled into his house and attacked him too LOL

[weak mulch]

so letting your cat be pushed around and hurt is better

[fluid knot]

Oh boo hoo, getting bullied by a stray, what weaksauce crap is this.

[harsh urchin]

like if i was sitting at home, and somebody came into my house, punched me and my cat

i would be pretty upset

[harsh urchin]

well it isnt a stray

he said it's someone else's

[weak mulch]

the infection risk plus animal control would hurt it anyway for hurting me

[fluid knot]

Well then be an adult an go an speak to the owner. Dont plan to hurt it

Cats fight, thats just something you have to expect when owning one

[weak mulch]

you can be mad its just reality of primal urge

i may be ooga booga but we all have flaws

[fluid knot]

Yeah pray to god noone local, or indeed the owner finds out, because they'll kick your fucking teeth in.

[weak mulch]

i dont act and im venting it

[lyric burrow]

there we go

[harsh urchin]

idk if someone or something comes into my house without my permission i'm probably gonna shoot it

[weak mulch]

not gonna pretend im someone im not

[fluid knot]

And it'll be well deserved too

[harsh urchin]

regardless if it's right or not lol

[weak mulch]

kids can get shotguns and carbines here w/o background check theyd be bleeding alot worse

[fluid knot]

Person, yes, animal no.

[harsh urchin]

huh lol

if a bear

breaks into my house

you bet your ass i'm gonna shoot it

[fluid knot]

Mate, put your little dick energy away.

You sound like a twat

[weak mulch]

i will put it to owners face

[fluid knot]

Well cmon now, thats a fucking bear

[weak mulch]

do you have any idea what energy is

im more of just acting without filters

[fluid knot]

No. You wont, because a real man, wouldnt be professing about that kinda shit over discord to people they dont know. Fucking kids mate i swear.

[shadow onyx]

nice put slaughterer instead of precognition and up to you for the per

[weak mulch]

i talked to people at work w that too

[fluid knot]

Probably hasnt even got a hair on his dick

[weak mulch]

you need grass

wanna see

[harsh urchin]

i mean, if I see a cockroach or a rat in my house, I would kill it too

[fluid knot]

Mate, you look like a knobhead, do yourself a favour, an put a fuckin sock in it, its not edgy, its not cool, you just look like a bellend

[weak mulch]

eh no reason to be violent its the worst thing someone can be

[harsh urchin]

you're a little biased tbf

[weak mulch]

your associations are duely noted

[shadow onyx]

there is no cockroach in my house because i have an army of apex chad spider alpha who ill anything that could crawl

[weak mulch]

you have straight termites

[shadow onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/urban-jerzy-urban-papieros-smoke-smoking-gif-22933423

[fluid knot]

Spiders are the shit, gotta have a few in yer house to keep all the bitey bugs out

Mozzie killers

[weak mulch]

then the centipedes come for the spiders

[shadow onyx]

centipeds bust out cockroaches and others shits too so im fine

just less fine if they lurk in my bed

but honestly i'm not in australia so its no that big

[weak mulch]

ive only ever been disgusted by parasite type bugs

any bloodsucker

[shadow onyx]

tick

[meager plinth]

just let your house be open territory for bugs

[harsh urchin]

ligma

[weak mulch]

[meager plinth]

[shadow onyx]

lmao

[weak mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/dip-balls-in-sulfuric-acid-sulfuric-acid-gif-24756387

[meager plinth]

Liquid morkite occurance

[weak mulch]

DA LIFTA DROPPA CANNON

[digital loom]

cat ears uwu

i've still got old faithful but the hair clips

[meager plinth]

that would look incredible with the pegleg

[ornate hamlet]

heihachi mf

[digital loom]

you mean like this?

[meager plinth]

ye ye

but the striped pants are really good too dayum

[white sky]

I vote pirate

[meager plinth]

beautiful

Look who I found

@digital loom

[digital loom]

yep

[feral verge]

@spice veldt

it happened again

[restive slate]

Falltide

[feral verge]

i already have really solid illisi's

but i always take any low warp resist greys i can find

this one had potential but

hadron killed

rip

[compact kayak]

wtf the HUD

[feral verge]

Custom hud mod

[meager plinth]

with enemy radar

[viral lion]

So I recently picked up a Pyrostaff from Brunt and…seems to really do low damage

Is it supposed to be low as like 15 damage?

Or is it more like a stun weapon?

[blissful kestrel]

Are you looking at the weapon damage stats or testing the weapon in the Psykanium for this number?

[compact kayak]

is the mod ¨Healthbars¨?

[viral lion]

Tested in the Psykanium

And what it said on the staff stats

[blissful kestrel]

The main damage from the fire staff is from stacking soulfire on things; not from its direct damage. This is why you want a good burn stat on the weapon to stack up fire faster.
The amount of damage per stack grows a lot faster than linear, 2 stacks does more than twice the damage of 1 stack. Once you get into 5+ stacks, it will start melting hordes.

[mental rock]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/10

[viral lion]

Alright so how do you stack soulflare?

(Psyker is my least played class)

[spice veldt]

tsk tsk tsk

[blissful kestrel]

The same way you apply soulfire; hit an enemy once with the fire staff will give it 1 (or 2 if you crit) stacks of soulfire. If you hit the same enemy again, they will get an additional 1 (or 2) stacks of soulfire.

[meager plinth]

what

[spice veldt]

Purg doesn't have much in the way of single-target damage, but it does have infinite cleave in a conal area, only being stopped by shielded bulwarks, walls, and its limited range

[lyric burrow]

It can also stagger single target's

Near infinitely

I forget if its works on ogryns for long periods

[viral lion]

Gotcha, use it on Hordes the most

[spice veldt]

use it on any groups of enemies as long as they aren't mostly crushers or shielded bukwarks

[viral lion]

Gotcha

[meager plinth]

*the dot can do pretty significant damage if kept on enemies long enough

I can easily top damage against bosses with it if I keep my stacks up and Im not teamed with someone that has a bosskiller loadout

[lyric burrow]

Pairing it with deimos allows you to take care of almost any situation

[rain saddle]

took long enough

[north solstice]

only 79 blast radius?

just sell it tbh

[meager plinth]

what low warp resist will feel rough sadly

good staff otherwise

[north solstice]

i mean the quelling buffs are really nice so it shouldnt suck too hard

[meager plinth]

the main downside is that it will stop you from chaining more 'splosions

[spice veldt]

doesn't matter too much without warp flurry, but they'll probably have to quell one more tick from 100% for a fully charged blast

[meager plinth]

what feats are you using on column 3 reg?

[burnt maple]

we need a feat where we can transfer peril to a team mate, then blow them up lol

[warm latch]

whats the best curios for psyker? for harder content?

[cosmic sigil]

The only reason to wear a wound curios is to get one free explosion per run.

😬

I run 2tg and 1hp for 148 tg and 186hp

[meager plinth]

I run 2 toughness and 1 stam

highly recommend sniper resist

[warm latch]

wait why stam?

[cosmic sigil]

HP is because I'm often on the receiving end of a burster explosion

I synergizes well with kinetic deflection

[restive slate]

If friendly fire ever becomes a thing, we should be able to execute the Psyker as they are about to explode and kill us

[meager plinth]

if Im not using kinetic deflection I want to be able to push and block

for revives

[cosmic sigil]

But it's not mandatory.

[meager plinth]

more stam helps a lot in melee too

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah true. On the other end you can do without. Especially if psyker is not your first class. I learned that the hard way with vet.

[restive slate]

I miss when Deflector blessing blocked ranged attacks while reviving

[warm latch]

I main psyker. I just don't know if there is a meta or not for them

curio wise

[restive slate]

Autopistol Psyker is a meta hahaha

Ah curios hmmm

[warm latch]

Im currently running 2 health and one tough

[cosmic sigil]

But you can do without. Especially if you have Stam regen and you time your pushes.

[meager plinth]

yea but I dont time my pushes

[spice veldt]

curios are up to your playstyle and how often you get pwned by bursters/snipers/flamers for the most part

[restive slate]

I've seen some vouch for toughness and toughness regen, mainly it synergise with quell to regain toughness feat

[spice veldt]

i like running 3 toughness

because i fucking hate ranged enemies and would love to dive their asses if I can

[restive slate]

Dive their asses eh?

[spice veldt]

get right into them

[meager plinth]

gives more value to toughness regen feats too

[cosmic sigil]

The josho move.

[meager plinth]

its the reasonable move to do

its why zealot 4stacks work so well

[cosmic sigil]

4 stacks?

[meager plinth]

4 zealots

[spice veldt]

4 zealots stacked on top of each other

[cosmic sigil]

Ohhhh yeah it's fun.

[meager plinth]

fun

[cosmic sigil]

It's all about fondling each other in the backroom of the mourningstar

[meager plinth]

I want psyker protectorate and the additional staves so bad ffs

[spice veldt]

peril glock when

[restive slate]

Psyker chat looking kinda Josho right now

[spice veldt]

this is zealot chat

[meager plinth]

this is the fanatics

[mental rock]

they need to add dual wielding or hybrid weapons. give me las pistol + force sword

[restive slate]

Force axe and Heavy force sword

[meager plinth]

everytime I remember this I inhale copium

[harsh urchin]

psyker base stam is 1

which is ass

[meager plinth]

having the tiny bit more stam helps when you are surrounded by enemies too

[harsh urchin]

i still dont think game needs new classes or weapons lol

still think 1. balance 2. bots 3. mission select all need fixing

[spice veldt]

psyker should get a ranged burst dps single-target staff

it is the sore spot of our force weaponry

[harsh urchin]

would you take that over being able to pick your mission condition

[spice veldt]

it's not one or the other, and they certainly have people on different teams working on different things

that's not the statement I posed

so don't insert shit into my mouth

[meager plinth]

[restive slate]

Like a Voidstrike that actually hurts?

[harsh urchin]

i didnt insert anything into your mouth

[spice veldt]

ye

[harsh urchin]

except deez

[meager plinth]

Hopefully the pyrocast does work

[spice veldt]

something that can take good advantage of warp absorption would be nice

[restive slate]

Blasphemy...

[spice veldt]

since the problem is that we have slow fire-rate staffs that kill in large batches at a time, which can end up causing the burst toughness from absorption to go nowhere

[restive slate]

Tbh there could be a simple change to that, change the m1 of some of the staffs

[meager plinth]

im hoping the other staff marks will do that

[spice veldt]

maybe if the surge m1 was like a quake lightning gun

[restive slate]

Doesn't need to be drastic changes too.

Let Voidstrike m1 have a bit of piercing and faster fire rate.
Trauma m1 have high stagger.
Surge m1 has fastest travel time and maybe an electrical trail for aesthetics

But noooo, same psybolt for everyone

[meager plinth]

the lil bolt is pretty nice for finishing off strays that are downed by trauma but thats it

[spice veldt]

presumably they couldn't think of any ideas in time for the release for any of the other staff m1s besides purg

which is such a damn shame

yeah the bolt is pretty nice for stagger/suppression

[meager plinth]

not like we'd ever know

[spice veldt]

just not that great in a hold W meta nowadays

[restive slate]

Yea not like Sienna had a huge variety of staffs to base on

Purgatus is basically direct copy of Sienna's flame staff

[meager plinth]

but better

[restive slate]

Oh yea infinitely, but tweaked stats does not equate new weapon

Anyway I see a lot of Psykers spamming L1 on obscurus super fast. Is this a mod or macro?

Everytime I ask in game chat, I'm met with silence haha

[spice veldt]

prob both

there was a mod that macroed the 1st attack but i think it was taken down?

don't quote me on that

[restive slate]

I saw that mod, didn't know it was taken down

I usually avoid mods like that, such as the full auto fire mod too

[spice veldt]

you get a pretty noticeable advantage on the illisi and obscurus' light combo from it

since illisi's light combo has two diagonal uppercuts that might not hit a headshot as its first target, and obscurus having its infamously shit combo

and being faster

i think the obscurus' lights are slower than the illisi/deimos

at least, I know that the obscurus' 1st light has a bit more endlag than the illisi's 1st light despite being basically the same

[restive slate]

If obscurus att speed is increased and the stab does a little more damage then it might be on the same level as the other two

[meager plinth]

if obscurus were to be able to do higher NA damage but at a high peril cost that could be interesting

[spice veldt]

having a special that you don't need to constantly keep activating would be nice

[meager plinth]

or a short buff after landing a special

that would let you use exorcist

[spice veldt]

like passively quelling on each hit?

[meager plinth]

yep

so you can continue and use the maxium of the buff

[golden tartan]

It also greatly increased your attack speed

Cos it would cancel the attack before you followed through so you could swing again instantly

Basically doubled your attack speed on a lot of weapons

[meager plinth]

https://youtu.be/gLB1C33suH0

At 1:22 the purgatus creates a detonation?

[fading patrol]

'nerfed', the old version is likely still around tho

[restive slate]

Imagine showstopper on Purgatus.

And showstopper is chance on ALL units to explode

[meager plinth]

Popcorn!

[sleek sun]

Yo

Thoughts on what to change on this?

https://i.gyazo.com/4a76976fc0185cd31473d4182a981b9e.png

[meager plinth]

Add warp nexus, crits apply 2 stacks instead of 1

The massive suppression of the purgatus makes terrifying barrage redundant even if it did work so I recommend changing that one

[sleek sun]

I see I see

[meager plinth]

And you could change crit% to be at 5% or use smth like flak damage

Flak would slightly increase your effectiveness against ragers and maulers

While crit% increases slightly soulblaze application rate

[compact bluff]

thats actually a barrel blowing up behind the lamp post, not the staff doing that, unfortunately

[meager plinth]

[dawn crypt]

I was out of town, just saw this now. You have the blaze on your staff and sword? and the Soulblaze feats too?

[steel flame]

5/10 not enough quell canceling goodness

if you can see what you're hitting your not spamming hard enough

[crude cape]

does hitting an unyielding enemy like reaper or boss with Rending Shockwave on a trauma staff do anything

to increase dmg for the team, or nah?

[burnt maple]

Psyker Subclass should just detonate itself over and over

[spice veldt]

most weapons are pretty good against unyielding, so probably not

[burnt maple]

give it an ability that pulls in horde/man sized mobs

[teal needle]

Okay, I'll take this trinket

[snow coral]

wow

[white sky]

Jesus

[crystal jolt]

Very sweaty

Almost as sweaty as some of the people in here

[plucky flax]

Only staff. But yes wildfire ascendant blaze.

[dawn crypt]

I saw everything burning

[dawn crypt]

I wanna ask u a noob question about ILISI sword. I notice your video you use horizontal H1. but people tell me, all i have to do is spam left click. Is there a reason to do Heavy swing with ilisi charge up?

[spice veldt]

the numbers on the heavy special are significantly better than anything else for hordeclear

here are some numbers from a grey illisi w/o buffs

here are some numbers from a decked out illisi with buffs

the numbers with the decked out illisi and buffs should have a few more milliseconds tacked on since I started the timer when they first dealt damage instead of when the first keypress was initiated

[dawn crypt]

So just special + heavy

[spice veldt]

pretty much, if you can afford the space and peril

[plucky flax]

So for me it's situational. I will spam special heavy 1 if there's someone fighting alongside me.

I'll light spam if it's just myself as the special activation time could let me get hit.

Generally though special heavy 1 spam is stronger.

[dawn crypt]

i been spamming SPECIAL + light sometimes in desperate situations

when i have little space to work with

[plucky flax]

From melk today. Lower blast radius and charge rate but good perk..

[dawn crypt]

I dont see how its possible for Special-light to be 7.766 and Special-Heavy to be 6.766

that makes no sense

[plucky flax]

Yeah special light is good too. Just not as good as heavy.

[spice veldt]

special light is pretty good as well

probably just due to breakpoints

having to get off 1 more special to kill the few remaining stragglers adds a bit of time

[dawn crypt]

Ohhhhh i see

[plucky flax]

Low mass enemies in that test too.

Special heavy shines in mixed horde.

[dawn crypt]

Special heavy is better cuz its more dmg, and gets u better overall results

[plucky flax]

You shred the ragers elites.

[dawn crypt]

so ur getting less peril, and kill more things

[spice veldt]

i special-light for mixed hordes since you can get staggered out of a special-heavy

[dawn crypt]

so heavy if u can

[spice veldt]

not dangerous against pure hordes but extremely dangerous when caught by ragers

[dawn crypt]

or heavy for thicker crowds

[spice veldt]

i personally just spam special-heavies whenever, even if there's not much density

since I like to keep my peril up unless I know there are elites around or i'm playing more safely

and I don't think the damage loss is that much even if there isn't that much density

depends on feat/blessing selection of course (quietitude/warp unleashed/kinetic shield/unstable power)

[plucky flax]

Deflector slaughterer best blessings.

[spice veldt]

deflector can be a detriment if not running stamina/block eff/kinetic deflection since you'll just get randomly guardbroken if you don't have extremely clean push inputs when ranged enemies are around

[plucky flax]

I always run kinetic deflection. Free extra blocks op.

[dawn crypt]

oh

someone told me to use Slaughterer and the one with high peril + dmg

What resource does it drain when u block?

[spice veldt]

prob better to use deflector in the general case

deflector works like your normal block except against ranged, so it'll drain from your stamina unless you're running kinetic deflection

[plucky flax]

Deflector is just too valuable for me to drop. It helps a lot when I need to clutch.

[dawn crypt]

ok ur def starting to convince me to give it a try

[spice veldt]

my anti-ranged is in my trauma staff which usually works well enough for me

[dawn crypt]

Initially I was told to use Slaughter/ Uncanny Then I was told to use Unstable power

[spice veldt]

i think the only bad sections would be silo cluster and relay station's finale, but i've gotten experienced enough to just deal with their spawns

if you want to win games (and have a decent amount of stamina or running kinetic deflection), i'd go for deflector

if you don't care about winning, go for the other offensive blessings

[dawn crypt]

Ok i converted

And all i got are these

unfortunately all my swords are fucked

nothings perfect

esp the ilisi is even more fuct

[plucky flax]

You should experience see what works for you.

For me deflector slaughterer are best on both force swords. I do prefer illisi however.

One of these days if I can make a meme shred blaze illisi might be fun.

[dawn crypt]

i like ilisi way more too

smoother and easier to use

for other one, im told to not even use special

and just do Light Heavy and poke poke poke

it does hit very hard

but feels awkward

[plucky flax]

Yeah but the light spam horde clear is weird. So I use deimos with purg only.

Since I actually just spam purg all day. Xd

[dawn crypt]

so u never use deimos lol

u bring it but barely use it

[plucky flax]

I use it for elites and specials.

I have + carapace and maniac on my deimos so I can 2 shots specials the crusher.

For mutie it depends on warp charges and peril. Usually its 1 special heavy if not then a follow light 1 should kill it.

[dawn crypt]

i seen a video where people 1 shot mutant with deimos

[spice veldt]

with an 80/80/80 dmg/finesse/first target deimos, +25% maniac, 4 warp charges, warp unleashed, and >75% peril, you can one-shot a mutie with an h2 headshot https://streamable.com/zftlb9

here's a demo at 72% peril, where you can see that a bit more peril would be enough to oneshot it

[near wyvern]

Why? If you have a horde clear staff (which you should do on Deimos) you should use unstable on it for that mutant H2 one shot. You can out a Slaughterer on it as well but that's a choice for deflector / no deflector.

[near wyvern]

With battery you can do it even with non optimal one at 6 warp charges and like 50%
-40% peril

[plucky flax]

It's my own preference. I don't like the finicky nature of unstable power. Especially with deimos if I use the sword for more than 3 seconds peril will drop.

Slaughterer comes into play as soon as I get 1 kill, which tends to happen after the first light 1.

[near wyvern]

If you have a horde clear staff you should use Deimos only for swap L1 H2 swap

Apart from tanking a plogryn

[plucky flax]

I play differently I guess.

[warm mica]

Hello siblings !

[near wyvern]

Here is a link where I do 3 mutants in quick succession in an actual damnation hi int game (video starts from the correct spot). With Unstable Power it's very reliable to one shot the muties. The stats and perks on this are not perfect.

https://youtu.be/SrrIuBE-cRw?t=110

[plucky flax]

Illisi blaze trauma gang

[sonic geyser]

I am very new to playing as a psyker so in sorry if this is a weird question

I just got my character to level 15 and got the fire staff

Everytime I try to do the charged attack, it will only do it for a brief burst instead if one continuous flame

I'm using pc controls so if anyone knows how to properly do it, I could really use the advice

[cosmic sigil]

press rmb to charge then press lmb to release the flames

and by press, i mean just press lmb once

[sonic geyser]

I do that but like I said, instead of being continually like I see others do, it's only for like a brief second then it suddenly stops

[spice veldt]

are you holding RMB for the entire process?

[sonic geyser]

I hold rmb to charge and then once it fully charges, I press and hold lmb but but when I do that the flames only last fir a second and then suddenly stop

[potent echo]

Any insights into revolver buff and breakpoints? I used it pre-patch as an off meta and it was already quite fun

[spice veldt]

this is what my mouse inputs look like (bottom right) https://streamable.com/lo2cu0

if you're doing the same, then maybe there's some external thing affecting your inputs

[sonic geyser]

OH I GOT IT NOW

Thank you

[spice veldt]

neat

[sonic geyser]

Now I can be the pyro I always wanted to be

[cosmic sigil]

Good

[ornate hamlet]

Is this good?

Low finesse, big F

I'm gonna take the Blessings, then

Also, is this worth keeping (have Rampage to replace with)

Uncanny strike is nice too for enemies with low multipliers, but it's a nice sword

I'd personally roll weakspot to infested and riposte to uncanny

I have Rampage IV.

And Uncanny III, I think.

Was the multiplier for dueling sword's rampage 4 30% or 50%?

[restive slate]

I rather have Uncanny, can deal with tough single targets if need be

[ornate hamlet]

Lemme check...

I still kinda wish I have Rampage on my Catachan Claws, if there's any.

[restive slate]

Gotta wait for Melks then

Can't remember the last time I touched a Claw Sword

[idle aurora]

What's the difference between all dueling swords btw? Just attack speed-damage?

[ornate hamlet]

Also the ways they attack

[idle aurora]

Which one considered the best? I never really used them

[restive slate]

Attack patterns for lights and heavy

Mk 5 is what most like, for it's easy headshots with heavy

At least afaik

[ornate hamlet]

Okay, just a question.

If you're going for a Deflector Force Sword, should you have high or low Warp Resistances?

[restive slate]

Warp Resistance is only for how much Peril you generate on special

[maiden knoll]

I think it used to be the least popular, wasn't it?

[ornate hamlet]

Oh.

[restive slate]

Is that so? I'm used to all Duelling Swords and anyway I'm usually at range with Psyker

[maiden knoll]

I think it's neglectable

[restive slate]

Hence Warp Resistance is a dump stat

[restive slate]

Oooh that's pretty nice

You want to generate peril to make use of Unstable Power more after all

[ornate hamlet]

Yes, but I was wondering if I could just swap Slaughterer IV with Deflector III

[spice veldt]

though high warp res is better for spamming the special into elites

you lose on a considerable amount of dps if you swap it out with deflector, but if you're fine with illisi's performance, then sure

[ornate hamlet]

This, on the other hand...

[restive slate]

Imo I'd keep that Illisi, Slaughterer stacks with Unstable Power and Warp Charges will allow you to cleave through enemies with just light attacks too

[ornate hamlet]

I have Unstable Power IV.

This is kinda dumb

But I am gonna upgrade it.

And PRAY TO THE EMPEROR THAT I GET DEFLECTOR

...fuck.

https://tenor.com/view/wasted-gta-gif-21874257

[maiden knoll]

You can still rebless it

[ornate hamlet]

Only one.

[maiden knoll]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/14ghhm0/the_darktide_gear_experience/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[ornate hamlet]

And I am still not fine.

Like, WHICH ONE SHOULD I SWAP?

[burnt maple]

riposte looks better

[ornate hamlet]

(Have Shred, Slaughterer and Unstable Power, all IV)

[burnt maple]

it's pretty weak, though

you should just try again

[ornate hamlet]

Imma let Hadron eat it, then

[burnt maple]

keep it

on the other hand the First Target stat is really low

[meager plinth]

Fitness is pretty low too, which you would need to be higher if you use crit rate

[ornate hamlet]

Already finished it

[robust sierra]

Hello everyone, coming back with another repeat question, when it comes to staffs, since I've seen mixed answers I'm just asking which do you guys think is the best?

I take it that the trauma and purge are best, right?

and as for the shredder autopistol do you guys think I should use that in stead of a staff? currently for my melee I'm using the deimos force sword

[harsh cobalt]

Shredder instead of a staff? Nah

[robust sierra]

when would/should I use the shredder do you think?

[harsh cobalt]

When you play a zealot

[robust sierra]

fair enough lol

on zealot I personally use the flamer

[spice veldt]

shredder is nice for single-target DPS

[robust sierra]

I should try the shredder, though

[spice veldt]

easy to use and deals good damage

i'd run the illisi if you're running the shredder

[lunar hollow]

i run autopistol on psyker and then forget to use it all game

[spice veldt]

true

[robust sierra]

so not the best on psyker but definitely usable?

[spice veldt]

run a knife to force yourself to use it

[harsh cobalt]

Listen, gun psyker is a playstyle. But it's not the one I'd recommend. There's too much potential to b come a detriment to your team

[spice veldt]

that'll be a player issue

and guns are pretty good

especially since illisi is probably at its strongest state that it's ever going to be in

[harsh cobalt]

Well, as a concept gun psyker isn't great tbh. But if the player is good you compensate

[spice veldt]

not just compensating but gaining ranged burst single-target DPS

which is an extremely powerful tool to have

[harsh cobalt]

But with autopistol you're melee psyker really, like 75% of the game. It becomes an issue if you deprive team of ammo. But staffs provide so much more utility on psyker it's hard to recommend guns

[robust sierra]

so going back to this, I personally like the trauma rn but I believe it's been said that purge and surge are good right?

[lunar hollow]

yes killing enemies often leaves them dead

[spice veldt]

melee psyker is also pretty good

[harsh cobalt]

Tbh all staves are perfectly viable right now

[robust sierra]

force swords?

[harsh cobalt]

It's taste, really

[spice veldt]

yup

nah, voidstrike is very mediocre

[harsh cobalt]

Force swords are top tier melee weapons

Voidstrike has tons of versatility. On paper it's the worst, but you can get a lot out of it

[spice veldt]

voidstrike has hordeclear, range, and suppression, but those three things aren't the most important

especially when you lose out on the ability to deal with elites/specials compared to the other staffs

purg/trauma has infinite cleave, trauma/surge has stagger/stuns, surge has a target limit instead of a cleave limit

[harsh cobalt]

Well, horde clear and suppression is what psyker excels at. Then what gives. You have zealots and vets on the team to deal with big boys quickly

[spice veldt]

i'm not leveling another character to 30

[cosmic sigil]

it's the gun psyker shitting hour again?

[harsh cobalt]

My issue with surge is randomness. If it prioritized high value targets it'd be S tier

[spice veldt]

and psyker has other aspects that make them a desirable pick

same

I also dislike the surge

but trauma and purg are better than voidstrike in most scenarios and map sections

[harsh cobalt]

I honestly like to take every staff for a spin once in a while. They're all perfectly viable, each has quirks

[spice veldt]

staff choice is absolutely not just preference

sure they're all viable

i think that voidstrike is just one of the more balanced staffs

[harsh cobalt]

Well, yeah. Voidstrike is just okay at everything. Versatility is its role. Other staves excel at their own niche

[cosmic sigil]

if the gunpsyker is a detriment to the team, what about the zealot then? he should melee, not use a gun oO

[spice veldt]

it sucks against mixed hordes

it is absolutely not ok against them

[harsh cobalt]

Trauma is good fun, but it's really tricky to use in some situations. Probably highest skill ceiling staff

[robust sierra]

so for force swords the illisi is better for hordes and the deimos for tougher scattered groups?