psyker-class

[dawn crypt]

prolly not worth it then. i guess thats why people call it a meme build

[safe crystal]

6 stacks is enough to kill most trash

But you need 2 procs

[fluid knot]

Well, if you're running AB/Wrack an Ruin it'll have more value, but not really compared to the other two aforementioned setups if you're not going all in on the burn

[meager plinth]

and by the time you shoot a second shot most things will already be dead

[dawn crypt]

this is all i got

[meager plinth]

ye ye

[dawn crypt]

and this

[meager plinth]

thats perfect

do you also have warp unleashed?

[dawn crypt]

wahts that? warp nexus ?

[meager plinth]

a feat, higher damage on high peril

a feat

[dawn crypt]

oh oops

oh level 10 feat, ya im using it

[meager plinth]

if you feel like you arent reaching high peril, lower the level of your transfer peril blessing

so it still drains your peril but lets you stay at max efficiency

[dawn crypt]

ohhhh i see what u mean

transfer peril works against warp unleashed

so u arent optimizing ur warp unleashed dmg

[meager plinth]

you also are gonna have a lot of your peril drained by your battle meditation passive

[dawn crypt]

true

So either i dont use transfer peril

or i change warp unleashed to inner tranquility

[meager plinth]

inner tranquility would be a tad overkill

wrack n ruin is extremely good if you got kinetic barrage

[dawn crypt]

So many months ago, i used to play with this build

But then my friend said its bad

And told me to do this instead

so the first argument is

since the quell speed buff, inner tranq isnt as good anymore

and he still thinks damage is better, assuming u can manage ur peril

or if u min max around playing at high peril

and theres ways to optimize this. for example spamming special on illisi

or spamming with ur staves, and then swapping to force sword

lv 15 feat. i like the 2nd one when im pugging (not playing in a premade) cuz it allows me to remove threats at range by brain bursting more and getting more ults

psykinetic aura makes me have my ult up practically all the time

[plucky flax]

Meme blaze trauma build.

[dawn crypt]

and the debate between Kinetic deflection vs Kinetic shield

He says 33% mitigation isnt even that much. coming from a veteran player that gets 75% toughness mitigation from ranged
But he says, its mainly good because blocking no longer drains stamina , which allows u to use stamina for sprinting or other purposes. and it builds peril which u can use to quell to regain toughness or to use it as extra dmg with Warp unleashed

thats his logic. but the only reason why im revisiting this, is that maybe i need to tweak my build based on which staff im using

[dawn crypt]

Thats interesting, What weapons should I pair with it. to ttry it out

[plucky flax]

I prefer illisi.

The patch nerfed it with the slaughterer nerf.

So you have to get in melee more now.

[dawn crypt]

How much did slaughterer get nerfed?

[spice veldt]

in my eyes, the main use of kinetic deflection is for revives

if you're running the trauma, you can afford to give kinetic deflection up

[plucky flax]

Fire burn kills doesn't proc slaughterer anymore.

[dawn crypt]

Because you have aoe knockback / knock down?

[spice veldt]

ye

you can clear a teammate for a revive with a trauma

provided that your blast radius is high enough

[dawn crypt]

Does that include soulblaze?

[plucky flax]

No hishock scoreboard yet. This one is just hi. Also my trauma staff is not as good as it can be.

[plucky flax]

Yeah only melee kills proc slaughterer now.

While fire still proc headtaker stacks.

[dawn crypt]

But i think thats not really a nerf. its more of an unintended mechanic. because its pretty OP if u stack dots with ur staff, and then swap back to ur sword for a few seconds and u instantly get full slaughterer stacks

[plucky flax]

Yeah wildfire ascendant blaze was really strong.

Just press f and hold your sword.

Now you have to press f and kill with sword.

[dawn crypt]

So its mostly for horde waves?

[plucky flax]

Yeah actively use your f for horde.

It kills faster than spamming trauma.

[dawn crypt]

press F right before u start slashing with ilisi ?

[meager plinth]

order doesnt matter, you just need to have live slaughterer stacks

[plucky flax]

Yeah. Have 4 warp charges preferably. Run at horde start meleeing and use f.

The burn will keep spreading.

The bigger the horde the better.

[dawn crypt]

Seeing all the damage numbers must be fun

[keen mural]

imperium sanctioned milk canister

[wet jacinth]

[dawn crypt]

looks awesome , i want it

[wet jacinth]

~~ Definitely not Ogryn Milk ~~

[dawn crypt]

we need female ogryns!

[wet jacinth]

[dawn crypt]

its sexist that we dont

[plucky flax]

That's pure warp essence in that jug.

[fluid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/borderlands3-oh-hi-there-ellie-gif-13828374

[plucky flax]

Drink it for a power boost.

[fluid knot]

Female Ogryn^

Prove me wrong.

[dawn crypt]

!!!!

[wet jacinth]

Are you tryna tell me. Scooter is a ogryn

[wet jacinth]

(Still bs how he died but eh)

It is what it is

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. i dont like that outcome neither

Hopeful that BL4 will be good tho, they've learned a lot of lessons from 3/WL

[wet jacinth]

anyhow is Darktide good yet?

[dawn crypt]

always has been

its 1 of 2 games i play

[fluid knot]

Its a lot better than it was mate honestly, there are still flaws, like the really egreigous RNG but its more playable than ever

[wet jacinth]

Darktide for me just feels like brain rot. I just kinda afk my mind

[kind jay]

depends what you mean by good. even dogshit has a use

[fluid knot]

Isnt that the case for most shooters?

[dawn crypt]

Call of duty is brain rot

[fluid knot]

Well.. Other than tactical shooters, at least they require a brain

[wet jacinth]

Looks at Insurgency sandstorm when flash grenades sent you to heaven

Be flashbanged for like a Minute

[fluid knot]

Pretty accurate tho tbh

Fuck getting hit with one of those IRL

[dawn crypt]

I waited 10 years for diablo 4. and it ended up kinda sucking

[wet jacinth]

Accurate yeah. But game balance it was crazy. Next to. Trolls using it on their own teammates.

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. it certainly had some questionable elements, fun game tho

[dawn crypt]

diablo 4 loot system and inventory is pure cancer

[wet jacinth]

I expected bigger things but eh yeah. Meh

[fluid knot]

Tbh nowdays the major one for me is DayZ, kinda always has been, but still

Love that shit

[dawn crypt]

So since diablo 4 kinda sucks. i just keep playing darktide

1 issue about darktide. It went from having barely any skins i wanted to having too many i want

but i dont wanna spend 100$ to buy all the skins =p

[plucky flax]

Starter skin bro.

Hobo prisoner drip.

[steel flame]

its where its at

[olive ember]

alright I tried out wrack and ruin

and it was useful for like 2 situations but god it felt bad whenever I couldn't hit the one shot breakpoints for ragers and flamers and all that

As for Lacerations vs Aura its debatable tbh

[meager plinth]

wrack in ruin is exceptional in situations where you have like 5 ogryns, 7 maulers and 3 berserkers

packed up

[steel flame]

#mylife

[meager plinth]

which happens pretty often

[steel flame]

I take it for exactly when that happens

[steel flame]

What were you trying to hit break points with, out of curiosity

[olive ember]

maniacs and flamers

with WU its a one shot BB

with 4 stacks of warp charges without WU its still not one shot iirc

[safe crystal]

4 charges 40% peril with WU will oneshot ragers

39 leaves them with 0.5 health

[steel flame]

Least you tried it. Personally I dont care much about break points with most of my builds as long as I have a quick time to kill setup for enemies rather than trying for oneshots

If it's a staff I follow up with an m1 or a stab. If it's knife I'll confirm kills with a sprinting overhead during the stun. And if it's a gun I'll just confirm with a shot. As long as it's fast I don't have problems. With wrack and ruin I don't want one shots with bb letting me get multiple stacks going off a single elite and killing more surrounding them

To each their own though

Other option being, if I don't have a quick time to kill on something as long as I have a stunlock or constant knockdown option to assist teammates I'm also happy with that

[cyan portal]

Hitting the 1 tap break point with bb can be handy for those extra warp charges. Though whether you need/use those charges depends on build, but point is it can be handy to get a warp charge while deleting a real threat.

[steel flame]

True enough

[cyan portal]

I've been running 133132 with a blazing pinning shredder with +unyeilding dmg, pretty fun and effective. Deletes bosses which is handy.

[steel flame]

That's what I use on my shredder build except I use 133133

[cyan portal]

I like the horde clear and extra warp charges, with the power boosts the 4 stack ab does work, or you can top up a wrack and ruin for some elite deleting. It is crazy fun if you got a purgatus on your team, can use ult with full charges very often.

[steel flame]

I tried ab for a bit with it but I preferred keeping stacks for higher dps and having KB for when I needed a panic BB, orgyn/mauler hordes or for when I was low on ammo and needed alternative mixed horde clear or single target stuff

[cyan portal]

In general i don't like like to bb unless I need to, and any situation where I would chain bb I'll do more work shooting.

[sullen bobcat]

I horde clear with brain burst

[steel flame]

I also use a laceration 4 mercy killer knife with the shredder build to kill bosses even faster. (Beast goes from 5 clip solo kill with shredder, to a 3 clip kill with 16 bleed). It also provides lots of mobility and easy 2 shots on rangers with a light body shot into a heavy headshot with 4 warp charges

Though usually the ragers are deleted by the shredder miles out

[sullen bobcat]

That just sounds like vet with extra steps

[cyan portal]

BoN is 2 1/3 clip if hitting all weakspots

should be a clean 2 with with warp charges

[steel flame]

Your right there are extra steps, and that's why I play psyker and not veteran

Vet puts me to sleep

I find the class to be wholly uninteresting outside the plasma gun and maybe revolver shenanigans

[oblique gulch]

helbore pretty fun tho

js

[steel flame]

That "sight" on the hellbore gives me migraines

[sullen bobcat]

I only play plasma now tbh

[oblique gulch]

but it gives you the not braindead aspect

that you like

I used plasma first

both are really fun, but the helbore kinda clicking with me rn

[cyan portal]

1 1/2 clip into BoN weakspot, 3 clip into face. not bad

[whole hornet]

Revolver on every class that can take it brother, it's the way

[tropic vigil]

i spent 1m ordos attempting to get a better staff and this is the best i could do, should i use the new one (left) or stick with current (right)?

[harsh urchin]

You need 80% cloud radius, 76+ burn, 70+ warp/quell and dmg doesnt matter

Left is a bit better

But i think you mightve dumped some staves that are good

Since you seem to be prioritizing wrong stats

[tropic vigil]

i probably skipped past a few low damage ones but honestly i only got a handful with 76+ burn it was shitty luck

[harsh urchin]

Ye damage doesnt matter

But cloud and burn does

[tropic vigil]

maybe will get lucky with melk or some shit

[cyan portal]

purga very easy to upgrade at least, brunts is pretty much the only rng step

[warm mica]

🦟 🦟 🦟

[cyan portal]

just lock terrifying barrage into first slot when going to orange, if you get t4 then it'll be one of the two desirable ones, then replace tb with the other

[tropic vigil]

ye dont have to worry about blessings much fortunately

pretty much what happened

[plucky flax]

Wait that works?

Like upgraading to yellow will remove lock?

[cyan portal]

it will lock whatever is in the second slot

[plucky flax]

[cyan portal]

but because purga only has 3 t4 blessings, and you've put one in the first unlocked slot, it is fine

[plucky flax]

Tru

[meager plinth]

Those moments when you try a stupid-ass build and it still works

[near gale]

Yeah, skill makes up for your stupid build being sub-par.

[fluid knot]

Quell speed is meaningless

0.00somethingorother seconds difference is LITERALLY imperceptible to the human eye

Really should stop trying to convince people its worthwhile

[harsh urchin]

Who cares buddy

Using a 30% quell speed staff vs 80% might be imperceptible to your eyes

But you can definitely feel it

So I'm going to keep recommending people to get at least 70% on their purg staves

[safe crystal]

If you're dying on that hill, why not recommend a higher damage instead of quell? You can 'definitely feel it' as well

[harsh urchin]

I dont think so lol

[safe crystal]

Why, because you said so?

[harsh urchin]

Ive tried low dmg and high dmg and i do not feel it

Yes because I am going to trust my personal experience

[safe crystal]

I wouldnt be able to tell the difference between a low or high quell, because the difference is negligible

[harsh urchin]

Good for you then

[safe crystal]

Actual shit takes, gaslighting people into scrapping decent staves

[harsh urchin]

Hey man, its totally okay if you disagree with me

But I think a certain way from my experience playing the game and you feel perhaps a different way

And calling someone elses way shit because you dont agree is just kinda toxic

[safe crystal]

Telling people to scrap their perfectly good staves, that have a negligible difference between a high roll and low roll quell that CANNOT be seen, is just actual bad advice

The same with the voidstrike you said was bricked, because it was missing a whole 0.05 seconds charge

[harsh urchin]

Ive gone into meat grinder with a 30% staff and a 80% staff

And i can feel the difference

Are you going to tell me that my experience is incorrect

Because if so you're just delusional lol

[safe crystal]

Good for you then, majority of people wont notice a difference because its so miniscule

[copper torrent]

I mean... Can't we just prove it doens't make a difference by doing a few runs and calculating clear time? If quell matters, then you should be getting % gains on clear time. No feelings required.

[safe crystal]

Doesnt work, because variance between missions, player skill, team mates etc are variables

Its not all about the staff quell

[copper torrent]

Yeah, i doubt anyone has identical staves save quell. This is why we need a mod to edit weapons in meat grinder.

[mental rock]

actually quell speed does matter quite a bit because of the way the quell speed stat scales

[harsh urchin]

You dont need identical staves lol

You can literally go in with different staves with diff quell

[copper torrent]

Do do the test I was suggesting?

[harsh urchin]

And just press R

[mental rock]

you can note how quell speed scales because even at 80% quell, the last 20% is worth an additional 60% quell speed

[copper torrent]

I was approaching it from the perspective of does it matter in the grand scheme of things. Which is clear time.

[harsh urchin]

Idk the math since I just test things myself, but @safe crystal

[mental rock]

this means quell speed gets even better the more you have

[harsh urchin]

This guy says it does matter and has the math to back it up

[harsh urchin]

Clear time is too variable

[cyan portal]

50 quell speed is a 0% bonus. 80 is a 42% bonus. 30 is a -16% bonus

[harsh urchin]

Depends on mission, teammates, personal skill etc

[cyan portal]

you can just read it off the stat page

if you get the true peril mod you can see it goes down by a fixed amount each tick of quelling time, and the amount it goes down is set by quell speed.

[fluid knot]

My guy.. it takes a whole quarter of a second to process visual information, even with the fastest running brain. You think you can circumvent biology, you're huffing some serious copium

[harsh urchin]

I dont need to process information son

[copper torrent]

yeah, you have feelings

lol

[harsh urchin]

The game is played on muscle memory

[fluid knot]

Yes, you do

Bruh.

[harsh urchin]

Especially for stuff like quelling

[fluid knot]

Man literally thinks hes superhuman

🤡

[harsh urchin]

You dont stop and thinking before each action

A lot of the repetitive motions are based on muscle memory and prediction

[fluid knot]

That doesnt change the fact that 0.00something seconds is imperceptible

[harsh urchin]

Idk man

As I said

Try it out in meat grinder

Because my personal exp says otherwise

[copper torrent]

I could buy it from the perspective of something like speedrunning, where over time that quell speed banks up. But , something something clears are too variable.

[fluid knot]

I dont give a rats ass mate You're not gonna convince me you can circumvent inate biological functions, i highly doubt you're even in the top 10% of reaction times globally, an even if you was, its a literally "hardcoded" limit

[copper torrent]

Have you considered Dis' feelings though?

[harsh urchin]

Nobody can circumvent biological functions

You're just wrong that your reaction time matters in this case

Its like doing a combo in a fighting game

You dont react to each step, you just do it

And the timing of it is felt

Rather than seen

[fluid knot]

No.. im not wrong, because you're gonna quell exactly the same amount of peril regardless, because the difference is so bloody small lol

Muscle memory does not make a difference here at all

[steel flame]

lights out is severely killing my will to play the game on a saturday

[idle aurora]

amazing mod btw, actual change that can improve gameplay in intense situations, where a few % can blow you up

[steel flame]

all i want is to test my new blaze void in a high intensity shocktroop and yet i get to sit in the dark instead

[safe crystal]

This is the difference between a purgatus quell 50 and quell 80. First clip is 50, second 80

[steel flame]

cough, quell speed is a dump stat for realsies cough

[fluid knot]

Yep

[safe crystal]

It is, but someone NEEDS to die on this hill

[steel flame]

lol

[safe crystal]

For a very accurate time difference, it is a whole 0.46 seconds

[steel flame]

a ground breaking difference

[harsh urchin]

That's sizable imo

[cyan portal]

so, does 60 to 80 damage have more effect than the difference between 60 to 80 quell speed? That is what it comes down to.

[lucid terrace]

THE MOSQUITO

[safe crystal]

Its irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, just like high damage

[idle aurora]

ye damage on purg is also a ?, i have one with 80% and 34%, shit burns down so fast, i cant really tell if actuall fire stream gives any meaningfull damage, but warp resist and cloud are really important

[safe crystal]

The stats that matter are, in order of importance, burn/cloud radius, warp resist, quell/damage

Quell and damage can be whatever because they barely contribute

[silver quest]

I have an 80 Quell speed and its pretty broken

[mental rock]

I would prefer quell over damage on purge but thats just me

[silver quest]

As for damage, (on purgatus) it's "max" is at like 11 ? So idk what 60 is at but per tick it still adds up yeah?

everything on my staff is 76%+ except for radius 💀

[ember hornet]

1 damage is not gonna do anything

[plucky flax]

And that's not the burn damage. That's the raw damage from left or right click.

[idle aurora]

I legit wanna get a 0% damage purga, with 80 in everything else

To bad rolling a 0 in one stat is as rare, as a 380 roll

[harsh urchin]

Too bad radius is really important

[ornate hamlet]

What's a good build for a Revolver?

Asking cuz one of my Revolvers have Surgical IV and Speedloading III.

[steel flame]

Dunno. Still workshopping mine

[meager plinth]

Im still workin around mine too

rn I got chainsword+volver but Im having a rough time with toughness regen

[steel flame]

Also I achieved a great accomplishment today

I had a Zealot complain that my flaming void staff spam made him feel like he was being flashbanged

[meager plinth]

tbh voidstrike gives me headaches

[steel flame]

Mission accomplished

[meager plinth]

[lyric burrow]

I still kinda miss the voidstrike being insanely loud when you get multiple headshots only cause it was funny

[silver quest]

eh its still affective for mowing down crowds

[ornate hamlet]

This good?

[steel flame]

It's certainly a staff

[lyric burrow]

Damage lower than id would use esp with the lower warp res since itll take more charges to kill something but if you only want to support the team then itll work

Youll just have to rely on melee

On your own/during hordes and whatnot

[meager plinth]

whats on yours zazy?

[steel flame]

Barely anything. I'm starting from an empty blessing library

For the revolver

[meager plinth]

ouch

im having bad rng, but im aiming for maniac/flak

crit stacking sounds nice but at the same time gun psyker has poor toughness gain so gloryhunter might work well

[steel flame]

Just don't get hit duh

[ionic frost]

i feel like the Omni-mule

at least we got 3 scriptures =D

[ionic frost]

remember, you can still dodge when at -6 dodges...you don't move far but it still dodges stuff

[spice veldt]

with regards to the quell speed discussion, here is the function for quell speed (courtesy of syllogism)

You quell 12.31% per tick at 80% quell speed and 9.58% at 60% quell speed (when beginning your quell at 100% peril), which is a difference of half a second when quelling from 100% peril to 0% peril (2.25 seconds vs 2.75 seconds)

whether 2.7% extra peril quelled per tick makes a difference is up to you

[burnt maple]

wait is the revolver good now? for psyker? lol

[meager plinth]

100%

[burnt maple]

with what build/blessings?

[meager plinth]

we are testing stuff rn

[burnt maple]

nice

[meager plinth]

perks are flak/maniac

[burnt maple]

i have one grey revolver that does 420 damage

[meager plinth]

for rager breakpoints

tho unarmored can be good to guarantee extreme range sniper kills

the main downside is that you need a vet to make its poor ammo economy viable

[restive slate]

So how does Revolver rank now?

[meager plinth]

iunno

its exceptionally good against gunners, shotgunners ragers and every specials

[restive slate]

With Vet Ult, can it kill Crushers in a 5 shots?

[meager plinth]

doesnt even need vet ult

[restive slate]

Granted you had 4 warp charges and I assume the feat that gives damage at high peril lol

[meager plinth]

yep

and anyway in a normal scenario I would use BB on them

[restive slate]

Now last question, how does it fair against bosses?

[meager plinth]

never tried using it on one yet

with the low ammo count, I wouldnt use it on a boss tbh

use BB on the boss and keep your revolver handy for elites/specials

[ionic frost]

i kinda wish we had a sidearm slot too...where the revolver would be

so you could carry staff, revolver, and force sword =D

tho that just sounds OP...

[meager plinth]

tbh nah, people already forget to use their grenades half the time

do you think they could handle having another weapon?

[ionic frost]

lol

"I meant to switch to melee but pulled out my sidearm and died."

[meager plinth]

tho I dont remember who but someone had made this edit

[ionic frost]

yeah...I used to use Q to weapon swap when i was new

HAHA

that looks awesome

melta + heavy pistol!

[steel flame]

If anything would get me to play bet it would be the addition of an inferno pistol

[meager plinth]

inferno pistol?

[steel flame]

Better yet give it to psyker too and I won't have to play vet ever

[steel flame]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Inferno_Pistol

[meager plinth]

baby sized melta, nice

[steel flame]

Of course you can put holes in terminators and tanks so it might be outside the power level for dark tide

[meager plinth]

we have a plasma gun

so we could get a tuned down version of it

[restive slate]

Next Few Months TM

[manic halo]

imagine if we got a 6 shot reolver

[meager plinth]

maybe the other mark patterns

[restive slate]

6 shot revolver than fans special

And another heavy slow firing version

[meager plinth]

idk how slow you can make em, the damage of the MkIIa is already pretty damn high

[vivid mural]

Fatshark please just give us a force sword skin

[restive slate]

Have to manually pull back the pin between each shot

[meager plinth]

1 round

but its a fucking canon

[restive slate]

I'm so tempted to make a Cowboy Psyker build now

[meager plinth]

I highly encourage it

what melee you got n mind?

[restive slate]

Not too sure yet

Still at work, gotta test later

Open to recommendations

[steel flame]

I wanna use illi sword but the knife has really spoiled me. I can play so aggressive with the knife and avoid being punished with all it's defensive movement options that when I play with other melee I play far too aggressive and over extended into melee

[meager plinth]

Im having a blast with the chainsword on psyker, pretty close to getting a perfect build for em but having bad rng atm

[steel flame]

Oh, In too far with knife? Oh that's fine, just instantly disengage to miles away with a heavy knife dash

[meager plinth]

ye if you use it for movement its unparalleled

how will you deal with groaners n poxies tho?

ascending blaze? or just slashing away

[steel flame]

Got shooter about to nail you to a wall? Sprint towards them at 20mph and force them all into melee before you put a knife through their skulls one by one

[steel flame]

I use a lacerations mercy killer knife so the bleed and massive headshots deal with hordes just fine if I have to engage. And I can always fall back, thin them with my ranged real quick before hopping back in

[meager plinth]

ye just be careful since if you dont have a vet, the revolver will lose ammo pretty fast

[steel flame]

Also the block attack is the safest one shot on weak enemies in the whole game

It comes out so fast and goes back to block that I have never been punished for cheeky push attacks by pretty much anything

[steel flame]

Yeah.......I'll probably go illi, diemos or cantax for the revolver build once I get the blessings

[meager plinth]

Illisi lets you keep massive toughness sustain

[steel flame]

It really needs to come out for specials and elites only

[meager plinth]

and shooters

[steel flame]

It plays a lot slower though so I may go with cantaxe

[compact bluff]

the fun part about knife/duelling sword and revolver is that you can dodge around the horde to line them up, switch to revolver to instantly pop a shot and switch back to melee
if you do it right you can kill like 6 poxwalkers or 8 groaners per shot

is it optimal? no
is it fun as hell? yea

[meager plinth]

yea the blowthrough of the volver is really, really good

[burnt maple]

none of our staves can cause bleeds right? through a blessing? i wish we had a feat or something that made our charge attacks cause bleeds to synergize with other classes bleed feats

[steel flame]

Nope. Just knife and chain sword blessings for bleed on psyker

[burnt maple]

that's wack

[steel flame]

That would be a bit busted if we could make trauma bleed and soulblaze

[burnt maple]

imagine how good a purg staff would be if it cause bleeds instead of fire, and people wouldn't complain about being blinded by the fire

[steel flame]

Bleed caps at 16 while soulblaze caps at 31 and deteriorates much faster than soul blaze

[burnt maple]

that's fine just make it soulbleed and have it stack to 31 and count as bleeding for feats purposes

give me a razorwind staff

[meager plinth]

soulblaze can actually kill weaker units at lower stacks

[steel flame]

It would be cool. Would fuck up bosses and ogyrns at least

[meager plinth]

tbh soulblaze already fucks up both of those

[burnt maple]

it could be a papercut staff for all i care

[meager plinth]

I often do the most damage in my team against bosses if my team doesnt have a boss killer weapon

[burnt maple]

what do we have that does good damage vs bosses?

i usually just BB it

with KB

[steel flame]

My best way to kill bosses on most of my builds is to whip out knife and maintain 16 bleed stacks and I can solo any of the bosses pretty safely

[meager plinth]

BB, purgatus and ive heard some people say trauma is good

[steel flame]

Beast takes extra from explosions

Only one that does

[spice veldt]

i think BB is better than trauma on the bonbon now

since they bumped up the weakspot damage on bonbon

[steel flame]

That is true

[spice veldt]

haven't really tested or used warp flurry in previous testing though

[steel flame]

I usually swap between bleed and bb on bosses, or shredder if I'm using that which procs flayer constantly so same difference

[meager plinth]

I dont use inner tranq so I never tried trauma on a boss, too sluggish

[steel flame]

Full charge Flurry trauma had better dps on sluggo than just doing bb, it might still, but with the weak point buff...like Arcro said, bb is probably better now

[pallid smelt]

what perk replace

[meager plinth]

Seems pretty good overall tbh

Stamina is the least useful one

[spice veldt]

yeah i'd prob only keep stam regen if you're not running either +stam or kinetic deflection or trauma

[meager plinth]

Otherwise, you can keep it without locks

[crude cape]

I want to roll a new illisi...spent like 300k gold just now not getting many good ones. Got this tho, VERY low warp res, but its the dump stat. worth rolling? my current one on right, i just want to try one with slaughterer + unstable power

and what about this one, kinda ruined bc of the perks right? should i bother going to legendary?

nvm i yolo rolled the purple, and got unstable 3. not ideal but not bad! Just need advice on perk - which is better to keep, infested right?

[cosmic sigil]

i don't think either pose a problem tbh

at least infested is dogs and you can probably kill it faster

[crude cape]

ya true

i just really want a flak + maniac unstabler 4 slaught 4

but one can dream

[cosmic sigil]

so i would go with infested just for the dogs and some horde clearing

[crude cape]

hundreds of thousands of gold, who knows how much plasteel still not gotten it lol

[cosmic sigil]

hundreds?

[crude cape]

tbh illy is so good a white one slays on damnation

lol

[cosmic sigil]

i have probably put millions

at least 2

[crude cape]

lottery simulator

lol

i wish i could sort by just type

so i could see how many legendary force swords are in my graveyard

i should probably sell them for gold

[cosmic sigil]

i keep them as a reminder

and i change from time to time

[crude cape]

so infested -> flak right?:

or do you prefer maniac

i feel like flak is more generally usefull

sorry

i mean unarmored -> flak

[cosmic sigil]

i put maniac first on all of my illisi

[crude cape]

ah really?

[cosmic sigil]

yeah i do not find flak being a probleme if you charge

[crude cape]

damnit

now i wanna keep rolling

LOL

i would take 20%

but i just want flak + maniac

[cosmic sigil]

i'm more concerned by naked ragers and other maniacs

[crude cape]

ya true

they scary

especially in the new mode

a squad of maniacs wiped us in the new mode on damnation the other day

[cosmic sigil]

yeah...

[crude cape]

took us all by surprise and like 1 shot people lol

the modes not too hard but the elites do SO much dmg

[cosmic sigil]

i run gun psyker most of the time, so i tend to shred flak patrols

[crude cape]

ah

i do sometimes

its fun

[cosmic sigil]

but i've been destroyed more than once by maniacs so i tend to prioritize them

and if you put maniac it will be good in hi sg too

tbh, the sword i run the most is maniacs + specialist

[crude cape]

zealot pin and general knowledge says unarmoured > infested

still torn on which to replace

i think you see unarmored more

but infested units have more cleave resistance, + dogs

[cosmic sigil]

lemme tell you

#zealot-class message

[ornate hamlet]

Hive Ganger Gun Axe

[spice veldt]

on the illisi with t4 slaught and unstable, you can begin one-shotting groaners with the minimum cleave damafe if you have enough peril (warp unleashed) and warp charges

prob won't reach that breakpoint with t3 slaught, but +unarmoured is much less important than poxwalkers for that reason once you do get it

[cosmic sigil]

hmm it feels like i hit it with t3 and unstable 4

i should check

[spice veldt]

t3 unstable works yeah

i think with ideal stats and whatnot, you can one-shot groaners at >40% peril (with warp unleashed and w/o warp battery)

takes a bit more peril if not, but it should work

[crude cape]

so i should go infested + maniac or flak

[spice veldt]

i vote maniac (if not running a gun with good maniac DPS)

[cosmic sigil]

i would do that yeah

[crude cape]

dont really use it with gun, this is my trauma i mostly use

[cosmic sigil]

nice

[crude cape]

ya its probably my nicest rolled weapon across all my characters

ok old left, new on the right

ill probs still use the old, just been wanting to try the double damage blessings setup

also guess i had mine built wrong b4, i always ran flak : P

anyone wanna do a chasm station or power matrix high int?

[steel flame]

Not home otherwise I would

[cosmic sigil]

what feats would you take with the revolver psyker warp unleashed, battery, barrage? Ascendant blaze?

[short vessel]

Is Deflector 3 worth getting?

[kind jay]

all deflector tiers are the same

just get whichever

[dark cipher]

Ey what's the best set up for surge staff perks and blessings

[plucky flax]

Sure.

[cosmic sigil]

flar elite flurry nexus

well the the blessings that gives you more crits and the one making you chain faster

ok so i did hi intensity smelter with the revolver and that was really fine

i used quicken tho

[whole hornet]

If it works it works

Quicken is nice for just being able to have a get off me button more often

[burnt maple]

Quicken is pretty good. All 3 of our level 30 feats are solid

[whole hornet]

Which you sorta need more with revolver

[burnt maple]

I hope they add a warp gun

[whole hornet]

I hope we get more revolver variants

Alt fire hammer fan or something

[burnt maple]

I'm glad they made them more viable

It's really dumb you have to load it one bullet at a time. Might as give you a battle rifle

[whole hornet]

I don’t mind it, I haven’t suffered too greatly from it after getting used to it

[fluid knot]

Can cut reload short ofc, which is the same mechanic that stops shotguns being unbearably slow

[whole hornet]

And aiming being able to cancel the closing cylinder animation is good

I have abandoned all reload buffs for revolver in favour of speccing into more kill shooty

[dark cipher]

Thx

[cosmic sigil]

Look at ryken xiv video on YouTube

He did one on the surge with 2 possible builds

[near wyvern]

It was announced, there will be more revolver variants

But for the damage model, nothing else was stated

[whole hornet]

[ornate hamlet]

Holy-

I was thinking the same thing

[ornate hamlet]

For a random assumption, I'd expect a six-shooter and a sniper variant, in case there won't be a stub rifle for that role.

[fluid knot]

Bolt-Revolver/Pistol when Fatshark

WHEN

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-gif-25976706

[granite mauve]

bolt pistol for the squad leader subclass for veteran only

you heard it here

[hard breach]

guys i noticed the new visual for the Surge staff

Been playing sharpshooter lately so. I love the new visual

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's cool man.

Surge is so op now.

[hard breach]

don't think it's damage or anything was touched though

just visual

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[hard breach]

Tbh though playing psyker with surge feels good. good damage and team support

They can't shoot you if they're too busy spasming with lightning

[stuck finch]

Surge is great for control

And it fries flak enemies dead

[hard breach]

Does decent to carapace too

[feral verge]

saturday morning

[lunar hollow]

maybe they just dont like u

[feral verge]

But

I...

[lunar hollow]

its ok

[meager plinth]

[stuck marsh]

does deflector only work on shooter projectiles can it work on busters, snipers, flamers?

[wanton terrace]

Exchange stamina, and switch Shred for something else?

[feral verge]

stamina for maniac

maniac is #1 priority for force sword

[wanton terrace]

Thanks!

[feral verge]

shred is actually decent

[wanton terrace]

It will have to be shred for a while - still collecting my blessings

[feral verge]

but if you want more damage, and are okay with playing at high peril, swap to unstable power

(20% more power at 80%+ peril)

[wanton terrace]

Not sure I have the skills to not blow up too often!

[feral verge]

level 530 psyker, in damnation

[wanton terrace]

Just roled this too

[feral verge]

still using surge on horde lmao

[wanton terrace]

Terrifying barrage to swap and infested I think?

[feral verge]

that's okay. get rid of barrage. it's literally useless. its like not having a blessing

[wanton terrace]

Get infested -> flak?

[feral verge]

because all staves already supress

put warp flurry over barrage

[wanton terrace]

warp nexus and crit hit dmg look to synergise well

[feral verge]

critical hit damage is useless on almost all weapons too

[wanton terrace]

ah

[feral verge]

because it literally (in most cases) only adds 10 more points of damage

like, literally 10 more damage. thats it. useless

it will probably even be worse on purga staff, only adding idk 2 points of damage

[wanton terrace]

ah maybe this isn't as good as I hoped then

[feral verge]

swap[ crit damage for crit chance, or flak

crit CHANCE is good on purga/flamer because wh en it crits, it adds an extra burn stack on an enemy

so it lets you stack burn dot faster, doing more damage

[safe crystal]

Only works on projectiles. Those being reaper/gunner/autogun/lasgun bois. Sniper shots used to just pierce through, but that was a bug with kinetic deflection, not sure about the interaction now but i would not want to fuck around and find out. Flamer/burster/bombs still fly through normally

[wanton terrace]

Thanks bud!

[feral verge]

np sibling

scoreboard from that game with surge psyker

at level 530 (higher than me, at 440) you'd think they'd know to save surge for elites/specials

not just using it on horde

[safe crystal]

Was it a gamepass lad, or did you miss that?

[feral verge]

during the finale, they were just hanging up on this ledge. just surging the horde

while we were struggling down here lmao

i had to tell them to get down

which is another rookie mistake. always drop down with team

look at his hp, too

[feral verge]

i didn't check

[feral verge]

that's really decent

not too far from the 'ultimate' purga

this is mine

if i could, i'd change unarmored damage for flak

but unarmored isn't bad

[safe crystal]

At most, you can try getting a better secondary perk (flak/unyielding), upgrade to a t4 nexus and get slightly better stats

But thats not necessary

[lunar hollow]

the perfect weapon to miss mutie heads with

[feral verge]

damn

i'm a psyker main, and yours is better than mine wtf :/

i have a few deimos though

[lunar hollow]

it had been like 3 weeks since i rolled a deimos

spent 140k dockets on em, grabbed that one, upgraded it

and that was the first thing i got

[feral verge]

i have many, many deimos in my inventory

many failed deimos

when i was trying to get unstable power 4

[safe crystal]

It triggered me so hard you had a better one than i did, so i spent 500k ordos to roll a slightly better than yours

[lunar hollow]

cope

[feral verge]

i could probably try to farm for one right now. i got enough plasteel, but

think i'd rather just wait for a content drop

and keep on stacking up the $$$

[safe crystal]

Im waiting for the new staffs tbf, thats what im banking on

[lunar hollow]

i was saving resources and then i started dropping money on random shit

still need the trauma i want

im in a love/hate relationship with mine having 45% warp res

[safe crystal]

Just roll it on your first try like i did

[lunar hollow]

on one hand

its pretty funny for getting peril when a horde starts

on the other

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/0esj0e

[feral verge]

really sexual staff

[lunar hollow]

infested L

[feral verge]

hey it meets a breakpoint

[lunar hollow]

just have warp charges smh

[feral verge]

always do

[lunar hollow]

im also just really fucking sick of grinding psyker weapons

and them all having a million useless blessings

[safe crystal]

Wdym, purg only has 5

Surge has 5

And only 3 of them are T4 iirc

And most of them do nothing

RUNNERER n GUNNERER!

[lunar hollow]

i dont like either of those staffs

the problem with psyker weapons is like

the selection of exclusive items is small. and i'm not a fan of the majority of staffs

[whole hornet]

May i make a suggestion for a ranged weapon on psyker

[fluid knot]

They really dropped the ball with the variety

[lunar hollow]

and the melee weapons are either dueling swords ( 😭) or have some of the biggest blessing pools in the game

[meager plinth]

ye?

[safe crystal]

DS are okay, they are just overshadowed by things with power blessings

Honestly, DS should have infinite dodges, and FS should have what DS has now

[lunar hollow]

the dueling swords are fairly kinda shit. like their attacks have some absolutely nonsensical properties

like some variants only being able to use rampage via the push attack

[safe crystal]

All of them*

[lunar hollow]

i couldnt remember if it was one or all

[safe crystal]

Cleaves 2

You can get lucky with groaners

[lunar hollow]

i tried using it for the longest time but the only thing i found was that if i used flayer i could spam lights until a crusher died

and beyond that all it existed to do was hold onto for dear life when you're dueling 3 poxwalkers

[feral verge]

oh neat

fucked around, made this

[lunar hollow]

i think the concept of it could've been executed better. like maybe successive attacks having a better headshot multi or something

[feral verge]

been using this

[lunar hollow]

like it could've been a cool finesse weapon for chained hits on stuff but then they just made the deimos and its like why bother

[safe crystal]

mkV has some fancy hitbox shenanigans, you can hit the mutant in the head from the back with heavies

[meager plinth]

the other 2 are just weird overall

which is a shame cuz they look nice

[safe crystal]

mkV feels really good to use, but i did mainly use it before we had the new fancy swords

Personal bias, reminder of the dark times of psyker

[meager plinth]

I still miss the move tech

[lilac tapir]

whoa, did they pull the mod that allowed you to see all of the cosmetics (including the unreleased ones) in the inventory? I don't see it on nexus anymore...

[meager plinth]

looks like it

cant see anything on the modding discord either

[steel flame]

too bad most of us already have it

[meager plinth]

I still have the .rar file if you want

[lilac tapir]

do you mind sharing via PM? thanks

[meager plinth]

yea, its in the same check_all_cosmetics-191-1-0-1688204655.rar format as the other mod except it somehow used .rar rather than .zip

[steel flame]

guess they will just have to put the next update out faster to make it not work anymore oh no

also looking at the patch again, i guess they are taking a break after tweaking two blessings and a map

nice

good work guys

[meager plinth]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/191?tab=files

found the page

[steel flame]

quality content

[meager plinth]

it has been made hidden for some reason

tbh it IS their summer vacations

im all for people having vacations n shit

[steel flame]

oh i know. but its my summer vacation too and im stuck only allowed to play power outtage all weekend

im a bit salty you understand

[meager plinth]

yea

same situation

[lilac tapir]

yea power outage sucks... most annoying stuff

[meager plinth]

I adore lights out

BUT PLEASE STOP WITH THE DH

[steel flame]

its not bad every once in awhile but. when youre force either play in the dark, play unchallenging base damnation or not play at all, it kindasucks ass

[meager plinth]

and give us more light sources

all the most fun weapons dont have flashlights

[steel flame]

and its even worse considering they fucked up horde sizes on base damnation so its even less of a challenge than usual

[lilac tapir]

yea I mean there should be flashlights that attach to your head/body armor not tied to your weapon (I understand the gamedesign behind only allowing flashlights on weapons but feels very clunky)

[whole hornet]

Give us glow sticks so we have an aura and can throw them like in DRG lol

[meager plinth]

or give us weaker flashlight to wear on our character

and you have an option to get stronger ones on weapons

[steel flame]

guess ill be playing with my autopistol for the rest of the weekend

[lilac tapir]

could be also a flying skull flashlight that follows you for a limited time or something like that (with a recharge or number of uses per mission)

[meager plinth]

yea a lil servitor that you can replenish

I would DIE to have a lil customizable servitor

[lilac tapir]

that would be a cool way to support the devs actually, everyone gets a basic one with the same functionality and you can get additional cosmetic stuff for your flying skull through penances and microtransactions

[meager plinth]

id be down for that

having a personal servitor to interract with the environement would be dope

[whole hornet]

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/alt_concept.jpg

[meager plinth]

I swear to fuckin god, every time I think of all the potential this game has it makes me sad

[whole hornet]

Servitor companions must come with pet animations

[meager plinth]

imagine an ogryn with a tiny pouch for their servitors

[whole hornet]

Baby carrier on the chest

[restive slate]

I found a new revolver mark

[cosmic sigil]

the servitor could have some flashlight functionnality

[compact spindle]

Extreme snub revolver

[ornate hamlet]

holding the bullets in place with warp magic

[restive slate]

Yea its such an unexpected visual bug

[meager plinth]

one of my fav seer voicelines

[undone carbon]

is there a guide/ recommended weapons/perks/blessings list somewhere? im new to psyker from zealot and im a bit lost

[meager plinth]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[undone carbon]

cheers

[nova dirge]

Deimos is better then the ilisi right?

[nova dirge]

Bro swapped teams

[golden tartan]

No

[spice veldt]

depends on your ranged weapon

[white sky]

I prefer Deimos, i think Illisi is easier to use tho

[nova dirge]

I went from psyker to zealot though lol

[golden tartan]

Its two different weapons tbh

[white sky]

^

[nova dirge]

True

[meager plinth]

Illisi is a generalist with pretty insane scaling

[undone carbon]

playin w two low level friends, thought we should all suffer together lol

[nova dirge]

Yeah im doing that too

[meager plinth]

tho guides can be updated, feel free to ask questions for specific weapons here ^^

[nova dirge]

Well i mean, i usually just mains the purg staff

So i basically never use my melee

[plucky flax]

I prefer illisi overall. I run deimos with purg staff though but anything else it's illisi.

[meager plinth]

yea Purg is kinda insane

great damage, great CC, great suppression and pretty decent range

[plucky flax]

I am trauma main now.

Blaze trauma to be precise.

[meager plinth]

trauma overall is really fun

[plucky flax]

Wildfire ascendant blaze trauma.

[nova dirge]

Its literally the single best horde weapon in the game

Imo

[restive slate]

Alright so I did some testing and while I'm liking the Revolver on Psyker, I'm still struggling to find the right melee and feats to synergise with it

[nova dirge]

Yeah its fun

Does really well against groups

[restive slate]

I've been inducted into the church of Blaze Trauma

[meager plinth]

should I give you my build?

[restive slate]

I'd be glad if you did!

[meager plinth]

Im able to top damage as long as I dont have like a bull butcher ogryn, a shredder or a bolter player on my team

still working on better gear tho

gettin pics of my gear 1 sec

[restive slate]

Also trying to get the body shot one shot that I hear others say is now achievable for Revolver

[meager plinth]

im grinding for a better revolver and chainsword atm

rending isnt needed cuz you got brain bursts

so ill either get gloryhunter or more crit chance

[restive slate]

Is Speedload and Crucian ok?

[meager plinth]

speedload is good but its just 16%

its not a big increase

crucian lets me have decent crit rate but I find it unreliable

[restive slate]

Welp Crucian is locked in for me, I have tier4 though

What's the bis you're looking for?

[meager plinth]

still unsure atm, this is the only good roll I had on a revolver yet

unarmored makes me reliable for killing snipers, tho flak could help against scab ragers and maulers

and maybe bodyshots on shotgunners and gunners

I might try out terrifying barrage cuz rn shooters are my bane

[restive slate]

Oh? I'm curious on how that turns out

Perhaps Terrifying Barrage shall find a use haha

[meager plinth]

prob not, but might as well try

chainsword and revolver dont have the best dodges, so if I could shoot 1 gunner and pacify the rest it would work, in theory

[nova dirge]

I often get into negative dodges with my psyker

Idk the mechanic, but i know it doesnt work with my zealot

[golden tartan]

Illisi and deimos have unlimited dodges

They simply do not care

[meager plinth]

and obscurus

and honestly those three gave me bad habits

I rely too much on dodges rn

[restive slate]

How about Trickshooter?

[meager plinth]

bonus is too low and is lost too easily

could maybe help on bosses

but your ammo is too low on psyker

[restive slate]

Yea I see what you mean, especially with low ammo

[meager plinth]

if it was much higher maybe

[restive slate]

Dare I ask... Sustained Fire?

[meager plinth]

Like a permanent increase or a long lasting increase that ticks down like warp charges could be fun, ending at like 300% power if you never missed

sustained fire has some potential on ogryn enemies, but having a better crit chance is worth more overall

[restive slate]

So Surgical and Crucian then

[meager plinth]

surgical and crucians are prob the best ones for crit, point blank is nice if you are constantly in melee since it lets you deal with ragers super quickly

[restive slate]

Revolver gonna be like Trauma, can be strong but hard to build

[meager plinth]

at least it has a dumb stat

[restive slate]

All the revolvers I'm getting high mobility sadge

[meager plinth]

[plucky flax]

New blaze trauma staff?

Not sure if I want to switch unarmoured or carapace to crit chance.

My current one.

I'll switch out carapace. There's just too few carapace enemies.

[meager plinth]

oo, pretty nice

hopefully blazing spirit gets a tier 4 one day

[near wyvern]

Would be nuts. I hope it they change it to 1-3 stacks of blaze based on charge, even though that would fuck up my current staff (break the locks!)

[meager plinth]

guaranteed stacks?

could be fun

[near wyvern]

Yeah even if they made it so that it caps at 4 instead of 6 (and Blazing Spirit 4 would be 1 to 4 based on charge). On crit effects just don't feel that great.

[meager plinth]

on crit effects suck, it restrict gameplay too much

make it guaranteed and double it on crits

so you can choose if you want flurry or nexus for example

[near wyvern]

Double on crits outside of purge might be a bit too much

Unless the cap is 4 then it doesn't really matter that much

[plucky flax]

At end event if anyone wanna join.

[meager plinth]

sure, friend code sibling?

[near wyvern]

I mean I main fire trauma, cause it's more versatile than flurry trauma, it's just that at times you cast twice and everything dies in a few seconds after and at times it takes 6 casts to kill ranged units, it's a bit inconsistent. Works but not something you can count on like 'after this cast these will die for sure', which is quite valuable in this game

[plucky flax]

Steam in my discord profile

[meager plinth]

request sent!

[near wyvern]

I hang around at 80-100 peril so every 3rd - 4th cast is statistically a crit and there is a 9% chance to get two crits in a row but still, the output varies

[plucky flax]

16 deaths 42 mins game the pain

At least the lvl 25 didn't quit. One of the vet who kept dying just left.

[meager plinth]

hah

glad I could join last minute

[plucky flax]

@restive slate @dawn crypt you didn't ask for it but here's some illisi wildfire blaze trauma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZIjlLLAkq8

[molten sparrow]

My psyker Drip. I like my character's eyes to be seen.

[meager plinth]

niice

dripped out sibling

[steel flame]

i love how positivly useless rending backstab is on the knife when enemies instantly pivot on you in combat

[whole hornet]

Clearly skill issue

[meager plinth]

if it would actually let you deal higher damage on backstab

that would be dope

[steel flame]

nah nah, they gave that one to laspistol.....for some reason

[meager plinth]

and shredder

if you want to kill bonbon faster ig

[steel flame]

or....or hear me out. just get a better damage buff by.... get this....holding down the fire button

sigh why are 3/4 these blessings just....useless

[meager plinth]

slaughterer and pinning fire were a mistake

[lyric burrow]

Im shocked those 2 werent nerfed this patch

At least they tried to even stuff out

But those 2 are still broken

[meager plinth]

they are prob trying to find a smart way to go about it

[warm latch]

Finally got a respectable Purgatus staff

[meager plinth]

so its hard for them

[whole oxide]

anyone know exactly what the elite-resistance modifier does? especially in terms of breakpoints for BB?

[idle aurora]

More hp on everything, and enemies deal more damage (atleast feels like more damage). Malice on ER = damnation

[feral verge]

its decent

you want burn to be 76%

adds an extra stack of burning

and you may already know, but in case you dont

crit hit DAMAGE (not CHANCE) is bad

on almost all weapons

it literally adds around 10 points of damage on most weapons lmao

[warm latch]

What would you say that "Perfect Purg staff" would be?

[feral verge]

flak, crit chance perks

warp nexus and warp flurry blessings

here's mine

i main purga

[warm latch]

Oooooo

Sweet I will have to try and get a good one

trying to get to 1mil gold before I start buying again

[feral verge]

quell speed is the dump stat, followed--surprisingly--by damage (a high damage stat doesnt add all that much extra damage)

the most important stats are burn and cloud radius

ideally though, you'd have all stats at ~70-80%, except burn. like i said, you want burn to be 76% or higher

[warm latch]

sense you main purg staff what do you run feat wise? just curious?

[feral verge]

i'll show

i'm always at high peril

almost always at 6 stacks of warp charges

i two shot all ogryn enemies

this build can do everything

ideally, crit chance would be flak damage instead

but yeah

800 hours, mostly on psyker. this is my most powerful, versatile build

damnation only

the only small downside is having to manually keep up on warp charges, especially if you expend them all using ascendant blaze

because it has no feats that generate warp charges

[harsh cobalt]

My issue with purgatus is visibility. Try running vet trying to snipe shooters and specials, but you can't see shit half the time. Even with highlights the flame is too bright. So, while purgatus is great sometimes it really is an annoyance for teammates

It was really the same thing with flamers in VT2

[feral verge]

it doesnt mess with me that much

i also play zealot

with bolter

[wet belfry]

The real weakness of the purgatus is that it cant keep anything bigger then a groaner or poxwalker stunned for long.

It will always force the psyker to begin retreating with the staff the moment bigger enemies then that pops up.

An ogryn meanwhile with a cleaver would be able to hold their current position while also dishing out really good horde clear damage.

Ogryns controll and horde clear. Psykers with purgatus only horde clear and do not controll.

[plucky flax]

Reject purgatus. Embrace blaze trauma.

[steel flame]

at last my propoganda has taken root

[meager plinth]

yea but at the same time, a purgatus can melt everything that stays in front

even crushers if they build for it

[cosmic sigil]

Who needs a flamer when you have 5 bullets and a sword

[meager plinth]

who needs a tiny gun when you can purify an entire room in seconds

[cosmic sigil]

Who needs to purify a room in seconds when you can dance for minutes?

[fluid knot]

Dancing is more fun

[harsh cobalt]

I honestly prefer trauma for funny gibbing over purgatus. But voidstrike is my favorite for versatility

[chrome arch]

I run either Deimos × Purgatus or Ilissi × Nomanus

[fluid knot]

Haha, bowling ball go brrr

[chrome arch]

Depending on what my Siblings in lobby run

Someone said loadout bug is back

Is that so? I got so confused

[fluid knot]

Kinda, i had it earlier where i swapped to one an swapped back but it kept the old one but feats from the one i returned to

[chrome arch]

A pity, if that's true

[cosmic sigil]

It happened to me yesterday. I wanted to change to Autopistol. Was still on the revolver.

[fluid knot]

Aye, someone mentioned it might need a second to fully register with the server, but even still, kinda odd that is a serverside thing if so

[harsh cobalt]

I noticed that even swapping presets in the hub old feats sometimes lag behind

so you somehow end up with gear and feats mixed from two loadouts

it's weird

[cosmic sigil]

That bug has been there for months...

[fluid knot]

Aye, was pretty much exactly that. Was awful too because i ended up with shotgun feats with Hellbore3 on lights out modifier

[cosmic sigil]

I had some nasty surprises.

Oh shit

[fluid knot]

Yeah was big sad an had a good game with randoms an for the first time in 1000 hours used the "Merge team" function an then because it borked the loadout on second game, they all left coz they thought they'd have to carry

[harsh cobalt]

I just noticed because my stam wasn't draining on my shotty loadout, and I run deadshot on it

I thought it was just lagging in the hub, but you can end up with mixed loadout in the game

so it's silly

that's why I'm always checking now, like a paranoid

[fluid knot]

Hmm thats pretty weird, how'd you reproduce that do you know? Would save using Duck + Dive

[fluid knot]

Aye gonna after that mess lol

[harsh cobalt]

I don't know how to reproduce, I just noticed that using presets to swap loadouts sometimes lags with changes

[fluid knot]

Naah i meant the shotgun not taking stam when ADS'd with Deadshot

[harsh cobalt]

yeah, it wasn't because deadshot wasn't selected lol

when it should've

[fluid knot]

Aye i just got there sorry

I been out tonight, bit of a long one

[feral verge]

@meager plinth hi

[meager plinth]

OH HELLO

didnt expected to be recognized, was taking a break

[feral verge]

creepy looking bastard

good drip

[meager plinth]

managed to make 3 cosmetics people dont use work together and I look beautiful in them

[feral verge]

this is my most 'unique' zealot fit

[meager plinth]

pretty good with what we got

[north solstice]

look in psyker channel
zealot

days ruined

[feral verge]

im a psyker main at heart

[meager plinth]

Zealots are very welcome here

[north solstice]

thats what they all say

[feral verge]

psyker is level 440

zealot is level 225

[meager plinth]

so they can be converted

tbh zealot fashion is pretty damn hard

everything looks the sameish

from time to time ill see some unique driptide on zealots but its rare

[north solstice]

thankfully most of their stuff is pretty unique/cool imo

[cosmic sigil]

If my 3 characters are between 250 and 300 what am I? :/

[feral verge]

you are for the streets

[chrome arch]

I think I will install level mod

I am now curious what level is my zealot

But I guess there must be some baseline, if I did about 100 missions on psyker thus far, she can't have many true levels

[meager plinth]

let us know!

[restive slate]

@meager plinth how's your revolver build? Im now able to consistently kill a Crusher in 4-5 shots but hordes are still a problem haha

[meager plinth]

for psyker?

[restive slate]

Paired with Illisi atm

Running Ascendant Blaze, though less effective without something like Pinning Fire haha

[meager plinth]

use ascendant only for poxies and groaners

otherwise, use your ult normally

I dont recommend using volver to kill crushers since it will drain your ammo by a lot, brain burst em

[restive slate]

Ah, my perks when rolled are 5%critchance and 20%carapace

Change the carapace then?

[meager plinth]

yea, maniac or flak

need to see if it can change breakpoints

[restive slate]

Got it thanks

[fluid knot]

I wonder if you could set up a loop between Handcannon an Point Blank enough to make the Deimos 1 special attack kill Crushers

[lyric burrow]

do you mind sharing the build

[meager plinth]

this is what I use for everything beside damnation ER, got a scoreboard pic right above to show performance

Im grinding for better weapons atm tho

[lyric burrow]

ok ty

do you actually reccomend hand cannon or did you get stuck with it

[meager plinth]

got stuck with it

[lyric burrow]

heard it wasnt great havent used it though

[meager plinth]

its not great, rn its a dead slot on my revolver but I never got a better one

[fluid knot]

Its potentially good under right curcimstances, but because crit it means % to proc which makes it inherently unreliable

[lyric burrow]

ok

[meager plinth]

if it was like

100% permanent rending, or rending for like 2-3s on crit maybe

you could use that to improve soulblaze

[lyric burrow]

build looks good

id probably use illisi so i might swap to quietude or something but other than that ill def use that

i got a good chainsword for zealot and havent bothered using it on other characters cause its such a pain to roll riught