psyker-class

[silver quest]

Up to interpretation

[fluid knot]

Deimos/Illisi, either or, take yer pick

[velvet stratus]

I can see the absurd number but your veteran will likely kill the reaper before you get into melee

[wet belfry]

Probably

[silver quest]

Oh shit that's a new mode

[wet belfry]

but veteran can do everything so its whatever?

[silver quest]

💀💀

[fluid knot]

Except survive in a mixed horde melee situation lol

Which everyone else can do

[silver quest]

People just instantly said our BB got nerfed today and I assumed the buff was across the game. Not just a new game mode

(Actually I'm unsure if this is a new game mode like high intensity or if it's overall)

[wet belfry]

You mean like against dreg melees, scab melees with poxwalkers?

Or a horde with elites mixed in?

[olive ember]

I don't think BB got nerfed unless someone here wants to test it in the psyk

[fluid knot]

"Nerfed" is a bit of a misnomer, it takes more to kill in the new mode, but its still one of the most valuable things you can have in a team

[olive ember]

but yeah if its cuz of elite resist thats a result of the mission modifier not the bb getting nerfed

[fluid knot]

This, well, both if you judge by pug vets, but yeah you get the picture lol

[wet belfry]

Probably could survive it tbh depending on weapon

Mostly just comes down to how off-guard the veteran is while this is happening.

[safe crystal]

If its a mixed horde, and the vet is running UF, they can literally just press f, kill the elites in the horde while taking zero damage from the trash mooks because they regen toughness insanely fast with just a few elite kills, and UF giving them invincibility as long as they have toughness

Decent vets can pull it off, but pug vets are a different breed most of the time

[velvet stratus]

How are you supposed to use the dueling swords? Is there a specific build or something?

[olive ember]

nope

subpar damage, meh hordeclear, the one thing that they were good for was their dodge distance and move tech

but fatshark removed the movetech and the deimos has the same dodge distance but has infinite dodges and actual damage

theres basically no reason to run the dueling sword in terms of practicality since the deimos is a straight upgrade

[cyan notch]

ds has lower block cost

[north solstice]

quickie for gun psykers, how do the autopistol builds function? i know it has something to do with pinning fire? not sure what else and nothing i read helped much

[olive ember]

yeah but if you holding RMB on a duelling sword you doin something wrong

also kinetic deflection exists

[cyan notch]

i think ds has longer dodges too

its like +15% right

[olive ember]

vs the deimos?

[cyan notch]

mkv has 15% dodge distance pre sure

deimos is less than that

[meager plinth]

15% on the MkV dueling sword because it has both Defense and Mobility

Deimos is... ~10%?

[whole oxide]

if it was 50% vs 10%, might make DS worth taking, but 15% vs 10% is too small a difference to even notice

[olive ember]

I'd argue you literally would rather just bring a knife over a DS

you sacrifice horde clear but its single target is actually surprisingly decent, and the knife is atleast the fastest weapon you can run

[meager plinth]

Atm Duelling sword is more a fun/mastery weapon than anything

A psyker with an MkV DS won't perform any worst than other builds, except maybe an Illisi

[near wyvern]

WDYM they clearly say it's a new condition, fewer but tougher enemies

[silver oxide]

Hey lads, finally got this staff

thing is, Brittleness doesnt seem to work? Like i see not difference in damage numbers

[olive ember]

trauma staff does 100% damage to armor

[burnt maple]

You use your ult with Ascedant Blaze and fry the entire room while using Pinning Fire damage increase on the Autopistol

[olive ember]

you bring rending shockwave to help your teammates, or if you plan on swapping to your melee etc

[silver oxide]

ohhh, i see ok

[spice veldt]

trauma deals 100% to all armour types except infested

[silver oxide]

what blessing should i replace it with then?

[burnt maple]

Nexus is a popular choice

Not sure if Transfer Peril is worth it

[spice veldt]

not without blazing spirit

[cyan notch]

focused channeling

[lunar hollow]

i read 'channeling' as 'cheating'

not sure why

[burnt maple]

Kinda wish focused channeling was baked into a feat

[olive ember]

please don't use focused channeling reee

[lunar hollow]

make mind in motion stagger immunity

would be based

[burnt maple]

It's extremely rare that it's ever useful

[lunar hollow]

oh and maybe make it give u 20% move speed on being hit

for 5 seconds

[olive ember]

Warp flurry + Rending Shockwave is meta, Blazing Spirit + Warp Nexus is also meta iirc, focused channeling is the skill issue blessing

[lunar hollow]

rending shockwave is useful in like

.0001% of situations

[cyan notch]

never

[lunar hollow]

because i will tell pub teammates

and they will not shoot the crushers

LIKE BITCH IM DOING THIS FOR YOU

PLEASE GOD

[spice veldt]

if you're running premades then i'd bring rending

[cyan notch]

rending shockwave is for pretending ur contributing

[spice veldt]

otherwise i'm not running rending in pubs

[olive ember]

though yes, if you really dislike armor pen for teammates (remember the randoms in this game shoot lasguns at crushers), then yes focused channeling is technically better

I mean just in general

[silver oxide]

think im gonna go with t4 substained fire

[spice veldt]

doesn't work on trauma's RMB

[olive ember]

its armor strip in general so unless every teammate is bringing 100% pen weapons its gonna benefit damage ways either way

sustained is a meme

[burnt maple]

Does brittle actually help lasagna nerds with crushers?

[spice veldt]

teammates deal better with carapace, but focused lets you be more aggressive into ranged enemies

[olive ember]

Unless you are literally sprinting into shooter packs with your staff out

[spice veldt]

and it allows you to spec off stamina/kinetic deflection since you can use trauma to make space for yourself

[olive ember]

focused is kinda meh imo

[spice veldt]

yes that is the primary use case for focused channeling

[lunar hollow]

this kind of works if you're spamming trauma on everything

but even then its like a chance that someone will significantly benefit

[olive ember]

I mean when you bring a flurry staff for trauma the whole point is that you are spamming it

if you aren't planning on spamming it then blazing nexus is better im pretty sure

[lunar hollow]

im pretty sure like

if ur hitting everything with trauma

[olive ember]

Pygex thinks so atleast

[lunar hollow]

the brittleness isnt gonna be that useful in most cases outside of crushers

cuz like if u dont kill a gunner its normally half health anyways

so the TTK for people with shit weapons is already basically halved

[olive ember]

I mean its main use case is for maulers and crushers but softening random flak enemies in general, shotgunners, ragers, etc. will help

which for me outweighs bringing focused

[lunar hollow]

i mean tbh

with trauma you're gonna knock shit out of people's attacks

[burnt maple]

Focused Channeling also encourages you to eat damage

[lunar hollow]

the brittleness maybe offsets all the shit people miss cuz u throw shit around

[burnt maple]

Since greed is a thing

[silver oxide]

Hmmm, how about perks? I think Maniac is always good because i hate Mutie, but should i switch flak for something else?

[olive ember]

Focused channeling is good for like two use cases, when you are engaging, or if you are surrounded and getting overrun

[lunar hollow]

this sounds like a problem created by having negative iq points

[burnt maple]

If you're taking advantage of Focused Channeling, you're taking damage

[spice veldt]

focused channeling also creates consistency since your channeling won't be interrupted short of an explosion or boss attack

[lunar hollow]

you could say the same thing about sprint-sliding into enemies because oftentimes you can end up getting hitstaggered between slides

and u eat shit

[burnt maple]

Sliding gives you i-frames

[spice veldt]

yeah it encourages you to eat damage

I don't see the bad side to it if it means that I can practically extend the range of my trauma into ranged enemies and stagger them

[burnt maple]

You can also just as easily walk up to shooters with deflector and cut them up

[spice veldt]

if you run deflector, sure

[lunar hollow]

or u could not take a crutch blessing

smhg

my sword is made to deal damage

i will not put pathetic little defensive blessings on it

[burnt maple]

You realize that same argument can be said about Focused channeling, right

[cyan notch]

its only a crutch is u sit in a corner and block

[lunar hollow]

there's significantly less opportunity cost to focused channeling

compared to fs blessings

[cyan notch]

ah yes

slaughterer and uhhhh

gimme a min

[lunar hollow]

unstable power and bloodthirsty both have uses depending on which sword ur talking about

[burnt maple]

It's fine if you like focused channeling, I don't, agree to disagree

[lunar hollow]

people on this discord suck for arguments u people all just give up

smh

[burnt maple]

I don't care enough to stan a blessing, sorry lol

[lunar hollow]

i miss the days of mastodon

[cyan notch]

focused channeling and deflector let you play offensively in ways you cant do without them

[lunar hollow]

and the absolute vitriol that existed in this place

[lunar hollow]

eh... i find in the context of looking at the weapon they're on, deflector is a lot less useful because force sword has infinite dodges

whereas the staffs dont

like u can dodgeslide and avoid 95% of damage from ranged in most cases

[cyan notch]

not full coverage

[lunar hollow]

deflector mostly helps if you have found yourself incredibly out of position

[cyan notch]

cant walk up and ult itll get eaten

deflectors utility is not just defensive for me

that ones obvious and not worth mentioning

yes u can block bullets in a corner woohoo

but u can also block bullets for teammates ressing

[lunar hollow]

thats some shieldgryn tier shit i aint bothering with because this game is cruel and buggy

[burnt maple]

Shield ogryns actually can't take bullets for team mates lol

[cyan notch]

u can walk up safely to a horde of shooters to ult them without it being cancelled

[lunar hollow]

i've heard there's very limited circumstances where it kind of works

[burnt maple]

That's not a thing the shield does, it only affects you iirc. Unless you alt I guess

[lunar hollow]

like if u plant in a doorway

ive heard in that case it actually does work

[lunar hollow]

i don't have any problem doing this without deflector..? the ult isnt like

3 meters of range

[burnt maple]

But yeah, I like deflector and use it offensively more often than defensively

[spice veldt]

the ult sometimes doesn't stagger if you yourself are staggered/shot at by ranged

[cyan notch]

not only doesnt stagger doesnt even cast

wrong reply

[lunar hollow]

i cannot think of a single time i've been in a situation where that kind of interaction mattered

[cyan notch]

pretty stupid tbh

good for u then

[lunar hollow]

like i guess if people consistently pull shit way before u get close to it

[burnt maple]

That's what's great about the game. All the bugs just add to the flavor of the warp being unreliable and chaotic

[spice veldt]

psyker's ult is quite nice for staggering shooters and buying you some extra time before you whack them

(nice when it works, at least)

[burnt maple]

It's really annoying when you ult and it doesn't affect bruisers or whatever standing next to you

[cyan notch]

i cannot think of a single time where unstable power or bloodthirsty mattered in the slightest compared to deflector

[burnt maple]

Same

The warp charged attack is strong enough to cover most bases

[spice veldt]

better hordeclear against groaners; helps to reach certain thresholds if i don't have warp charges since i don't manage them

I don't run stamina or kinetic deflection so deflector just ends up making me get guardbroken a shit ton by stray bullets

so for my build, deflector is mostly a detriment

[cyan notch]

ur not giving up anything that matters a ton by taking deflector usually

[burnt maple]

Slaughterer/deflector can cover packs of groaners np

[spice veldt]

i'm getting guardbroken

[cyan notch]

yea ur a weirdo not u

[lunar hollow]

tbh psyker is a class i play sparingly because it fucks up my mentality on other classes

the infinite dodges ruin my brain if i play with them for too long

im not trying to make myself look really stupid by instinctively trying to block gunfire and eating shit

[burnt maple]

There's definitely times where I reach for my block key on my Ogyrn to block gunfire

Deflector + kinetic deflection is really good, and you have to be tanking a gunner for awhile before you get peril capped or gaurd broken

It's nice to have when you get a surprise spawn of shooters and you're in melee with something else

[lunar hollow]

simply put the enemies between u and the shooters

human shield

[burnt maple]

And being able to walk up to shooters when there's no cover is great

[slate sapphire]

this is basically why I've been running deflector and it's been dece

[harsh urchin]

Fixed issue where weapon blessing “Slaughterer” could be triggered by grenades or damage over time effects like fire. It should now only be triggered by melee kills by the weapon with the blessing.

rekt

[olive ember]

Why is that an issue that needed solving

[plucky flax]

Rip wildfire ascendant blaze fire and forget slaughterer stacking

[safe crystal]

Just do it with PF now, embrace the autopistol

[plucky flax]

No gunpsyker bad.

[lunar hollow]

even better do it with a decimator/headtaker caxe

[safe crystal]

I do agree with that

[plucky flax]

I play psyker to not use ammo.

[safe crystal]

Bowling ball staff is a lot more fun

[plucky flax]

Trauma and surge.

But I need a good fire trauma.

[lethal folio]

Surge got a new lightning fx.

Also wrack & ruin is very effective on elite resistance.

[harsh urchin]

wrack and ruin

[lethal folio]

There's something to be said of pumping the elite packs with more soulblaze than purgatus can dish out.

[rigid blade]

What blessings should I gun for with Deimos and what’s the dump stat?

[whole oxide]

W&R pairs quite nicely with burn-trauma, 'cos neither does good burning alone, but stack 1 on the other and it's enough to kill anything smaller than ogryn pretty fast

[steel flame]

Unstable, slaughter and you dump warp resistance and quell spped

[plucky flax]

Wrack and ruin is through bb though right?

[plucky flax]

The classic deflector slaughterer.

[rigid blade]

Thanks.

[burnt maple]

Not having to worry about ammo is a huge draw for psyker imo tbh

[steel flame]

And yet vets still manage to not have ammo on a team with 3 psyker

It's not much difference between running gun psyker and running 4 non psyker classes, it really doesn't change the ammo economy much at all

[analog agate]

Reminds me of the “road solution” lol. Build more roads to accommodate more people. This ends up creating more traffic because more people decide to drive. More ammo means the vet will just decide to shoot more.

[faint sigil]

which is what they should do to be fair

[lethal folio]

There may also be a mechanic where the item pickup system is influenced by your ammo.

[oblique gulch]

what should I do for the second perk instead of groaner dmg

[steel flame]

Flak

When in doubt flak it up

[oblique gulch]

I honestly intended for this to be a place holder as it's dmg and cloud radius stat aren't amazing

but it rolled for the double 4 bis blessings

and pretty good perk options

[silver quest]

this would anger many roughnecks

[steel flame]

Hmm?

[south zephyr]

damage is the dump stat on Purge

Burn and Radius are where your damage actually comes from

ideally, you'd want >76% burn in order to get max stacks

then as much radius and resistance as you can get

quell speed and damage are the least important imo

though, if one of the more knowledgeable Siblings wants to chime in, that'd be appreciated

[harsh urchin]

cloud radius 80 is not optional lol

I'd settle with 78-79

but any lower than that is a reroll IMO

80 cloud, 76+ burn, 70+ quell/res, and whatever dmg is my personal requirements

[meager plinth]

Yea that's basically it

[oblique gulch]

yeah to stay above 10 I would think

[south zephyr]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1123199537645899898/image.png

[oblique gulch]

I definitely agree

[south zephyr]

basically something like that

[oblique gulch]

oh wow yeah

[harsh urchin]

too bad you locked maniac

keke

[oblique gulch]

you only lose 1 point of dmg

that's nutty actually

yeah I'll keep that in mind when rolling in the future

[south zephyr]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1123199897861103646/image.png
my current WiP purge, assuming Hadron doesn't dab on last blessing

[oblique gulch]

just trying to get a pretty strong/decent one and cementing the setups before I start rolling for god rolls

[harsh urchin]

you do things very differently from me lol

I usually save up like 2k and do it in one go

rather than do an upgrade after each run

[south zephyr]

oh, no I had enough saved up for it

but then I got distracted

[harsh urchin]

o

[south zephyr]

by Illisi

[harsh urchin]

hit it

[south zephyr]

and you know...

Illisi > Purge

[harsh urchin]

illisi is sick lol

mine is like, probably one of the best out there

[south zephyr]

care to share?

[harsh urchin]

sure

[south zephyr]

the only thing I don't like about mine is that it only has t3 slaughterer

though I do have access to t4 now

[harsh urchin]

this is the reason I've literally been on a psyker binge for the last 3 weeks

i've played like.. barely any other classes lmao

[south zephyr]

that's a beauty for sure

[oblique gulch]

you want bloodthirsty on illisi? what is the combo you use for it

[south zephyr]

not a personal fan of bloodthirsty, but I can see its appeal and uses

[harsh urchin]

ye I like it over deflector and unstable

[harsh urchin]

there's a few you can do

[lunar hollow]

love me slaught + unstable

[oblique gulch]

well either way it has slaughterer 4 for the locked blessings

[lunar hollow]

lets me comfortably sit at max peril

nice synergy with quietude

[oblique gulch]

slaughterer plus shred is also quite nice on the illisi

[south zephyr]

I edge peril a lot on my psyker because I play around all the buffs and stuff you can get, so Unstable felt like easy 20% power

[harsh urchin]

you can do into powered heavy -> powered heavy : which kills EVERYTHING even without slaught stacks

[oblique gulch]

tbh most blessings work on that sword LMAO

[harsh urchin]

basically it demolishes mixed hordes

you can do powered heavy -> unpowered light or h2

[lunar hollow]

the only thing u really need on illisi is slaught

[harsh urchin]

which is faster

[lunar hollow]

the 2nd option is just to taste

[harsh urchin]

just gives a lot more options for horde clear i think

[oblique gulch]

yeah def a bonkers sword

[harsh urchin]

slaught unstable is cool

but slaught is just too op

which means unstable is like 5% extra damage

numerically

[oblique gulch]

i find it funny how they targeted a lot of weak weapons for updates, but completely left the chain weapons alone

[south zephyr]

Also, Psykinetics Aura, if you know, you know

[oblique gulch]

like mostly everything is viable, then there are the chain swords that are really meh

[harsh urchin]

chainaxe is aite if you don't mind getting cancer iirc

[south zephyr]

PA and KB make me feel like a Counterfire Vet sometimes, is good

[true shadow]

i run slaughter uncanny iv/iv

that way i can just spam left click to win

[harsh urchin]

illisi is all about its heavies and special

if you wanna lmb spam you can get better results using a BM axe

[true shadow]

or, get this

[harsh urchin]

you can do what you want

[true shadow]

i can just kill everything in front of me through the armor

[harsh urchin]

i'm just telling you it's bad lol

[true shadow]

idk killing a bunch of crushers with the slaughterer stacks i already built with my powered heavy is pretty good

try it sometime it's cracked as fuck

"it's bad lol"

[lunar hollow]

obviously doctored screenshot smh

[true shadow]

i will flay josho on live television

[lunar hollow]

❤️

[south zephyr]

It's nice that Illisi can be built so many different ways and still be effective

[blissful mural]

i dont think this person actually plays this game3

[true shadow]

i tried bloodthirsty recently and it's sadly not as funny as it could be

[south zephyr]

Yeah, that pretty much sums up how I felt about it too

preferred combo lately has been unstable/slaughterer, but deflector/slaughterer could also be good

[drowsy bay]

hi guys, can u pls recommend me some build for psy for 4-5 tier i'v just reached 30 lvl and want try hard mode

[harsh urchin]

very basic one is a purga/deimos setup that should get you into higher difficulties. 311112 for talents.

low gear requirements to start off, reasonably straightforward upgrades

[raven gate]

I actually recommend the opposite of Dis (its a good build but I dont think it should be ur fist unless u get lucky rolls)
I recommend illisi force sword/surge staff. Since the surge staff is very powerful even with a bad roll, so its a good starting point if you dont have a lot resources to craft with

[south zephyr]

this is true, it doesn't take much to have an effective Seizure Stick

[true shadow]

slaughterer deflector is fun sometimes. i really suggest trying out slaughterer uncanny tho

[south zephyr]

was actually a combo I wanted to try, but then I tried unstable/slaughterer and got distracted

[flat shadow]

do you guys know what impact does?

[true shadow]

it's cracked

[flat shadow]

i rolled double impact blessings

[south zephyr]

basically stagger

[flat shadow]

dunno what impact is but it sounds fun

[south zephyr]

iirc

[lyric burrow]

Yeah its stagger Essentially

[idle aurora]

You know what's funny, because on new modifier all enemies have more hp, wildfire actually has time to build up on everything

So far crusher patrol was the most scary thing

[mental rock]

just played the new modifier

7 deaths

I was none of them

classic

[south zephyr]

from all that I've heard about the new game mode, it's a joke, basically just HP bloat and barely any enemies

[idle aurora]

Pretty much, but don't let that fool you, let your guard down and they will fuck everyone

[mental rock]

yeah

this game my team had problems dealing with reapers

vet had autopistol, ogryn had stubber

I was playing zealot with mk12 las and had the only long range potential on the team essentially

[idle aurora]

I had purga, other psyker had trauma, and 2 vets with las guns, overall it was pretty smooth, there where only 2 momets where pack of crushers and shotgunner squad almost nuked us

Need to play more, but 1st time felt fun

[tropic vigil]

cool new voice lines.

new condition is pretty fun too.

felt like it was kinda easy though

like a low itensity that gives you more rewards

[idle aurora]

I really wanna see it with high int on top

[meager plinth]

@steel flame love meeting friends in rando games its great

[steel flame]

Ikr

[steel flame]

Twas fun

[oblique gulch]

groaners to unarmored and warp nexus to transfer peril 4

t'is a beaut

[ornate hamlet]

Beautiful

[meager plinth]

emprah's own

[pine relic]

Did they change surge's visual effect?

[meager plinth]

yep

also the targetting is slightly different now

[south zephyr]

was that today?

[meager plinth]

ye

[south zephyr]

how was it changed?

less seizure inducing?

[meager plinth]

idk for that

[feral verge]

i prefer low warp resist

but this is impressive

from melk

[strange meadow]

◕--[¤====> Blaze
<--[¤˵˵˵˵˵˵ Illisi
◕--{¤===⊰> Deimos

[meager plinth]

Blaze is the type of force sword, the third one is Obscurus

[strange meadow]

First would be obscurus then. My b

Deimos needs to have the point like I have it and the hilt is different

Name issue aside, I spent too much time on these and I'm actually really proud of the text art. Lol

[near gale]

It is? lol

I get the special on the heavy, but, you can melt hordes with lights with 5 stacks of slaughterer

Though for dense hordes you definitely want a special heavy >.>'

or mixed ones...

Hey

I want that back

I was reading it

[spice veldt]

here are some numbers with a grey illisi

no

[near gale]

Okay now you cant delete it

[spice veldt]

(deletes it again)

damn

my nft has been stolen

[near gale]

I had that thing open in a browser pretty quick lol

[spice veldt]

the light combo is surprisingly decent on the illisi/deimos

[near gale]

Yeah

[spice veldt]

i used to advocate against the light combo because i was stuck in my obscurus mentality

[near gale]

The deimos' 1st light helps with sniping a quick slaughterer stack

the illisi... well... >.>

https://tenor.com/view/murder-spongebob-rainbow-gif-15431155

[harsh urchin]

yeah lights work well if it's not too dense or if you're under pressure. but that guy was saying he spams lights or something

i definitely don't use lights as much on illisi compared to the heavy

[near gale]

I spam lights when I panic and it's just a moderate horde and I have slaughterer stacks

I might open with a special heavy for quick stacks

[harsh urchin]

at most it's special heavy into lights if the horde is almost dead

[near gale]

I mean either way the horde dies, it's just one is clearly faster and better x.x

[harsh urchin]

ye

[near gale]

when panicking you're not prone to doing the better strat >.>

[cyan portal]

Has anyone worked out if kinetic shield is actually changed or just tooltip wording? If so, does it scale more with warp battery?

[crude cape]

want to try a psyker revolver build, hows these talents and revolver, useable? Not sure what feats for revolver are considered but was gonna run it with an illy and mainly use melee.

[teal needle]

What's up siblings, how has the psyker's plight changed in the last like four months

[meager plinth]

Few tweaked/reworked blessings but that’s it

[cosmic sigil]

They didn't changed it. #zealot-class message

[cosmic sigil]

Warp unleashed probably. Illisi and deimos

[teal needle]

Those sure are words

Oh they're new swords, I see

Hm, is deflector/slaughter still the go to on those?

[blissful kestrel]

Illisi and Deimos are candidates for best melee weapons in the game.

[teal needle]

Also is peril transfer still busted on voidstrik

[blissful kestrel]

Slaughterer/Unstable Power/Deflector.

[teal needle]

Wow it's balls easy to buy a weapon you want and craft it up how you want it now

That's cool

[steel flame]

hah

hahahahah

AHAHAHAHAH

[steel flame]

thats just what they want you to think

[blissful kestrel]

Peril Transfer probably best option on Voidstrike, but voidstrike is least popular staff on heresy/damnation from what I have seen.

[teal needle]

Wait did they make trauma not suck

[blissful kestrel]

Trauma is popular right now, I don't remember what happened to make it popular.

[spice veldt]

peril gen was cut down from 47% to ~24% ish and quelling speed buffs

and people realizing that infinite cleave is probably really good

[teal needle]

That is a pretty nice buff. I think I'm gonna bring sexy back with the voidstrike on 4 and 5 though. Once I remember which end of the staff to hold and warm up a bit

[light latch]

Voidstrike just feels bad to use

[cosmic sigil]

Surge is the best staff ever. It makes enemies fall asleep around you and helps you blow up so you can kill them in one fell swoop

[light latch]

Surge Knight

[blissful kestrel]

Surge is especially good right now with the new modifier as well.

[teal needle]

Surge has certainly been solid since the start

I just like decapitating entire wave with a few voidstrike shots, assuming that still works

Although if Illisi is actually a decent horde clear option maybe that's not necessary any more?

Does soulblaze do literally any damage now?

[spice veldt]

soulblaze itself is mediocre

don't expect it to be good for single-target

[steel flame]

im resisting the urge.....

cough bullshit

[spice veldt]

the single-target from soulblaze is shit

but I haven't said anything about its application methods (purgatus, wrack & ruin, ascendant blaze)

something like soulblaze is never ever going to touch the single-target DPS of a gun

[steel flame]

oh i know 😛

i know it better than most

[teal needle]

What the hell siblings, I ask if anything big has changed and nobody mentions warp charges aren't bullshit to keep up any more

[spice veldt]

i wasn't sure if that change was within 4 months back ago

[steel flame]

god that felt like ages ago

[spice veldt]

hmm yeah that change was from patch 1.0.25 (feb 7)

[light latch]

Do items not show lvl in the shop anymore

[teal needle]

Void strike feels okay still but Illisi chunks hordes enough it doesn't seem very important any more. What's everyone using with surge staff now?

Also what's the rotation on illisi? It feels like it's basically a power sword

[raw swift]

chaos necrons are a thing

[spice veldt]

pretty much spam the special if you can; here are some numbers of a grey illisi against 40 poxwalkers stacked on top of each other

you can spam the special-light fast enough to repeatedly stagger ragers/maulers before they can get an attack off

the special has enough base cleave to hit two maulers at once

if there are 2+ maulers, then bodyshot them; otherwise, their carapace helmet will end all finite cleave

I like to spam the special against mutants because it can be finicky to hit their head sometimes
the special has higher bodyshot damage and a lower crit/weakspot multiplier than the normal attacks
the damage distribution is almost the same as a power sword

https://streamable.com/tb0hug

[lyric burrow]

Chasm station boss on new modifier is uh

Interesting

[teal needle]

What do folks run on surge staff these days?

[kind jay]

flurry nexus flak whatever

[vivid mural]

Love the revolver, the problem is that it makes brain bursting kinda useless. Why spend 6 seconds to kill a sniper when you can do it with one quick tap from the revolver? The Zarona is basically a 5-shot pocket psyker with punch-through

[spice veldt]

bulwarks in shambles

if they haven't changed any of the stagger values, then you need to roll a crit to stagger a swinging bulwark lemayo

[steel flame]

Take this time to play with wrack and ruin kb and full melee. That's my plan when I get a decent revolver

[thorn tapir]

yea wanna spam lights on the illisi? have you met blazing spirit and shred? :>

[steel flame]

I'm thinking about doing toughness Regen on elite kill and hand cannon

I have zero blessings for revolver though

[teal needle]

Well, playing psyker after like 4+ months of not playing the game feels pretty nice honestly

[lyric burrow]

crucian seems the best

after that its kinda whatever you want

other than trickshooter

[teal needle]

Illisi sword is silly, surge feels way more powerful

[ornate hamlet]

Because you have 5 shots, are subject to armor type multipliers, damage falloff and human error on aim

Also bulwarks

And enemies like trappers and bombers running away

[vivid mural]

Ohhhh. do you know if it works retroactively? I have a cd key for vermintide 1 I think, might give it a go since it looked neat to be castin brain beans with inked up fingers

Are there any that actually change the shape from something that looks like a fishing implement?

[cosmic sigil]

Yes. All the skins you can buy in the shop or in the cosmetic shop.

[vivid mural]

Hm

[thorn tapir]

they dont change how the gun looks at all

they are just that

skins

textures

[spice veldt]

it's because the game lets you equip the illisi skin on the two other force swords

thus changing their model to that of the illisi's

same goes for the force staffs where you can equip the voidstrike skin on purg and whatnot

[thorn tapir]

wtf thank you darktide spaghetti code

[spice veldt]

the revolver skins in the docket shop are also a different model from the current mark iirc

maybe intended, but there is a particular discrepancy since you can't equip the Mortis skin (from the imperial ediiton) of different marks on a particular weapon

e.g., I can't put on the Mortis obscurus skin on my illisi

[vivid mural]

Ahhh

Well that’s useful information

Because I like the look of the blaze sword but it does neither job very well at all

[spice veldt]

i quite like the broader blade

if only i could slap it onto the illisi

[vivid mural]

Well apparently we can

[spice veldt]

there's no docket or aquila skin for the obscurus unless a new premium store cycle dropped

[lunar hollow]

there should be a new shop rotation this friday

cant wait for the next new staff skin to also be trauma

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[lunar hollow]

i am kinda getting sick of half the psyker weapon skins in the shop being weapons not exclusive to psyker

[spice veldt]

and none of the skin packs having skins for the obscurus/deimos

[harsh gust]

whats the point of high ratings if its always 1 wound

[lunar hollow]

influences your perk tiers

[vocal relic]

It should work yes.

[cyan notch]

yea kinda lame

i want a deimos recolour

[harsh cobalt]

what are decent perks on trauma? I was thinking maniac and....flak?

[ornate hamlet]

There is a Deimos recolor

It’s red and black

[spice veldt]

I like unarmoured over maniac for dreg bruisers (450hp), but maniac seems nice for killing trappers

flak has its use for two-shotting dreg gunners and dealing a bit more damage to scab maulers/ragers

my other rationale for not taking maniac is that the trauma already enables your melee, so you can usually whack specialists

[steel flame]

its actually slightly more than one wound

and if you get multiple ones with slightly more than one one you can get an extra wound out of it

[cyan notch]

ooh got a pic?

[cyan notch]

wheres that from

[nova dirge]

pewdiepie deimos

[ornate hamlet]

I think it was the first round of cosmetics we got after they started the store up again

[ornate hamlet]

Lmao

Now I’ll always think that

[cyan notch]

damn i missed it

[ornate hamlet]

Im sure it'll come around or a better one will show up. mortis operative lowkey looks better anyway I think

[cyan notch]

ill pretend i know what that is

[ornate hamlet]

Imperial Edition skin

[thorn kestrel]

cries in unable to get that mask

[nova dirge]

its hard

hoods are overrated anyways

[ornate hamlet]

Black and gold makes me MOIST

[hard breach]

Spends time making char. Hide it in a helmet or mask

Btw why does the Hood and goggles shave the beard? Don't need too but it does

[meager plinth]

Prob used the same code for the ones with a mask

[nova dirge]

hows my purg staff looking?

[idle aurora]

Surge and trauma shine so much on elite resistance, low amount of trash mobs allow surge to actually stunlock what i am at, and trauma keeps everything on ground

[idle aurora]

small oof on cloud radius, not terrible, but if it was swapped with quell/damage, would be better. Barrage to nexus, and crit damage to crit chance

[nova dirge]

ok

[restive slate]

So... bots are better now, eh?

[fluid knot]

No, they just look a little bit less like shit

Placebo effect due to their cosmetics

[safe crystal]

They still function like your average vet

[golden tartan]

They also have more wounds

[fluid knot]

Oh yeah fuck i forgot they now woundstack

Thats even funnier

[golden tartan]

XD

[restive slate]

Ha!

[cosmic sigil]

man that was very low intensity lol

but hey i blew myself twice witht the surge... killed 9 ragers in one explosion

[cyan moth]

Thoughts?

[idle aurora]

Its funny to see people lower their guard, and then game just nukes everyone, like overall ye, it's pretty easy, but people still need to pay attention

[feral verge]

Barrage is bad

Waste of a blessing. It's like having no blessing at all

Purga already suppresses

All staves suppress

Put warp Nexus on instead

[feral verge]

And crit hit damage is bad too

Crit damage perks are pretty much universally useless

Only adding literally about 10 points of damage on most weapons

On purga it's even worse

Put flak damage or crit chance over crit damage

Crit chance perk and blessing (warp Nexus) is really good on purga and flamer because when you get a crit, you put an extra stack of burning dot on an enemy

The staff already has a respectable crit rate

So having an even higher crit rate is pretty much free damage boost

[feral verge]

Even warp Nexus t1 would be more useful than barrage t4

[safe crystal]

Low finesse, not ideal blessings, but T4 maniacs is good. If its for milkies, i would not buy it unless i had an abundance. If you do buy it, exorcist into slaughterer or unstable, unyielding into flak.

[steel flame]

fancy stick

[bold flint]

ive finally got my dreamstick

this is certainly one of the staves of all time

[near wyvern]

That blast radius sucks tho

You want blast radius and charge rate to be around 78-80, the rest is just a nice bonus

[bold flint]

like, i guess

but looters cant be choosers

[steel flame]

better get good at quell canceling

[bold flint]

like, quelling as soon as you finish casting?

i do that all the time to stay at max peril

[thorn tapir]

dumping another 10k plasteel looking for pinning fire 4 wish me luck

got it on the last 200 plasteel lol

[steel flame]

oh baby just played the first elite resistance and it was a cake walk

wrack and ruin eats that mode for fuckin breakfast

[thorn tapir]

cerebral lacerations is nice too.

[steel flame]

i run KB cerebral and wrack and ruin on my autopistol build already and it kinda just tears through them

the elites not dying to BB is actually a buff to wrack and ruin since i can get even more stacks up before i run out of targets

[thorn tapir]

yea 🙂

[fallow dawn]

is this work with peril or warp charges i think it was change no ?

[lyric burrow]

Pretty sure its still peril

And description got changed back on accident

[fallow dawn]

ok ty

[meager plinth]

Yep, it's not changed ingame except the description

[steel flame]

the monkeys on the typewriters got confused again

[fallow dawn]

right

[steel flame]

in the code Peril is called Warp Charge, and Warp charges are called souls

and since clearly nobody bothers to proof read anything it slipped back into the game

i would not be surprised if warp nexus giving us gains rather than crit chance slipped in at a later date even though its been "fixed" twice already

[bold flint]

gains?

💪

[fierce lantern]

does warp unleashed only affect force weapon/brain burst dmg?

it does

[bold flint]

hm? no

[fierce lantern]

but i just tested it in psychanium

increases autogun dmg

[bold flint]

oh, you worded your first statement/followup badly

[rigid sky]

Ideal blessings on a Trauma?

I got one with nexus IV and flurry III on it

I presume I want rending shockwave in one of those slots but not sure which

[bold flint]

crits dont actually do that much on trauma

so just pick flurry so you can cast faster

[rigid sky]

Flurry and Shockwave then, cheers

[bold flint]

unless you want to put fire on it

[rigid sky]

I guess Nexus is for the memey fire build

Do I want to run peril resistance or increased damage at high peril with it?

[bold flint]

🔥 🔥 🔥

well if you run flurry then youll want as many casts as possible

but if you like to hover around max peril then flurry isnt very useful

and high peril damage boost becomes more useful

[rigid sky]

I would imagine I'd get more value from the peril reduction honestly, I remember every other time I've tried a Trauma I end up blowing myself up more than with any other staff

Pairs best with a Deimos, right?

since it can handle point blank AoE so no need for Illisi?

I've got a good one of both

[bold flint]

idunno, i use obscurus

[rigid sky]

friggin hipster

[fierce lantern]

you mean you misunderstood?

[rigid sky]

(I miss my obscurus)

[bold flint]

well yes, if you ask "does X only do Y" and then follow up with "it does" then im going to misunderstand you if your followup finding is "it doesnt only do Y"

[flat shadow]

I keep blowing myself up with trauma staff because my internet sucks, every 5 seconds when I'm using the staff my charge attack will not go off when I release right click

It just keeps charging

[steel flame]

its not much of a meme, i find it to be better than flurry shockwave

[flat shadow]

so I'll be at critical peril trying to release an attack to vent and it just keeps charging

[bold flint]

but its not supposed to go off when you release right click

[flat shadow]

I mean when you click left click

Whatever

Either way sometimes my attack just doesn't go off and I explode because I charged longer than I wanted

It's my internet

I have been liking one of the catachan swords though

Usually I use the Obscurus

I like the parry

[bold flint]

the parry is cool but sucks ass because it doesnt block ragers properly and crushers still go through it with their big swings

unless for some reason you have like +9 stamina in curios

im assuming that works but i havent tried it

[flat shadow]

It doesn't block ragers because they attack twice

at once

[bold flint]

yea

[flat shadow]

I think if you have godlike reflexes you can double parry

I wonder if you can

They should modify the more crowd control based catachan parry to swing sideways

I used to try and do it in hordes

[bold flint]

wot

[flat shadow]

My phone autocorrect is "helping"

[bold flint]

i turn that shit off

like, i want to parry in the middle of hordes

[flat shadow]

How much damage is a mauler overhead

[bold flint]

but it always ends up that swinging again instead of parrying is better

uhh idunno

i wonder if that stuff still hurts you with peril block

[flat shadow]

Earlier I got hit by one who was trying to attack a downed guy but he spun around mid attack and hit me

Instantly downed

I didn't realize it was so much

[bold flint]

theyre maulers not ticklers

[flat shadow]

Yeah

I thought it would hurt a lot obviously but not like

1 tap

I wasn't expecting him to 180

I wasn't blocking

I like the Obscurus because it's good at all around and I love the special

But this catachan feels pretty heavy

Like when you hit someone there's a lot more feedback

I like it

Also my heavy overhead doesn't always 1 shot little guys

[granite plaza]

I accidentally sold my 380 purgatus staff :(((

[harsh urchin]

there's no inventory limit so why are you selling stuff

[flat shadow]

I mean this on my Obscurus with +20 to infested

How

[teal needle]

It felt like illisi was pretty consistent on staggering berserkers with the charged light attack but I've only played for like 1.5 hours since illisi was put in the game

[granite plaza]

you don't sell all your poor rolls from brunts slot machine?

[harsh urchin]

why would I

there's no inventory space limit

[granite plaza]

5 bad rolls sold is

one more roll??

[harsh urchin]

poor people lul

[west galleon]

How to out yourself as a no lifer without actually saying it

[cyan notch]

keeping garbage rolls in your inventory makes no sense

[grizzled jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-gun-lots-of-guns-keanu-reeves-gif-17571663

Me every time I look inside my inventory

[olive ember]

look you don't know when my devasting strike hammer blow claw sword will come in handy alright

[cyan notch]

its not even about saving potential weapons for buffs

this dude is keeping hundreds of grey 314 shit he will never use

[meager plinth]

Maybe he will

[harsh urchin]

I keep them so I can waste a few additional cents of storage for fatshark's servers

you delete them because you're out of money for gambling

we are not the same 😉

[meager plinth]

same but different

[blissful dirge]

Does anyone know the time limit on Bloodthirsty?

100% crit on special kill but...doesnt say how long for

[harsh urchin]

5 I believe

so plenty of time

[blissful dirge]

thats pretty impressive tbh.

[harsh urchin]

yep I've been enjoying slaught/blood

I was expecting to need to swap to slaught/unstable if they nerfed slaught to 25%

but it stays at 75% I guess

[static lintel]

voidstrike staff, yay or nay and if yay what stats?

[blissful dirge]

its fine. Transfer Peril means you can fire endlessly with some luck

[fluid knot]

Yay and quell speed is dump

[blissful dirge]

Warp Flurry/Transfer Peril is my setup. with what Dorf said. dump quell speed. you vent plenty fast

[static lintel]

?

[fluid knot]

Quell speed is also absolutely imperceptible in terms of difference

[blissful dirge]

mid 320s. eh. you can do WAY better

[static lintel]

ok

then ill just keep waiting

[blissful dirge]

chase something at least 365+

[static lintel]

very well

[teal needle]

I like transfer and whichever one lowers charge time

[burnt maple]

This is fine. The damage stat is virtually the only stat that matters and that you will notice

The blessing is garbage, though

[teal needle]

Because you need a charge to one shot headshot regular shooters

[static lintel]

i can wait, i have a decent flame staff anyway. just want to get all the staffs on usable quality

[blissful dirge]

Thats Warp Flurry

[burnt maple]

The purg stat is usable at almost any rating because conversely, none of the stats truly matter on a Purg staff except for Burn (78%) edit: 76%

[blissful dirge]

charge time? it IS the slowest isn't it?

[burnt maple]

The charge stat on a voidstrike doesn't really matter. The difference is negligible and once you have Warp Flurry going, it matters even less

[blissful dirge]

no on a purg. i thought purg was slowest

[burnt maple]

That I'm not sure of the actual number, but I doubt it matters

[idle aurora]

isn't it 76 ?

[burnt maple]

Yeah it's 76

For max stacks

[idle aurora]

I guess we will get 16 stacks when red weapons will arrive

[burnt maple]

Don't hold your breath lol

[drifting violet]

Quick question: what’s a good blessing recommendation for voidstrike staff?

[burnt maple]

Transfer peril/warp flurry

[static lintel]

at this rate we get red items in darktide 2

[burnt maple]

Or nexus/blazing spirit if you want a gimmick quel cancelling fire starter

[drifting violet]

😎👍

[idle aurora]

Or atleast i hope for some sort of stat boost with crafting mats, because it's stupid that weapons cant get their max stats

[burnt maple]

They've only acknowledged the locks and they haven't said anything about anything. I don't expect them to change this ass backwards gacha crafting

[static lintel]

i still hope they remove the bloody crafting items and just give us a modification system

[burnt maple]

The rerolling perks really annoys me. There's mods that will reroll the weapons for you until it gets the blessing you want, they should just let us pick instead of forcing people to waste time and effort doing it manually or rely on 3rd party mods

They could let us pick by paying diamantine, maybe then it would finally be useful

[static lintel]

the problem i have, even more then in vermintide

is that difficulty is gates by being lucky on weapons

gated*

[burnt maple]

The difference between a meta weapon/blessing combo vs anything is night and day

And there's so many trap blessings

[static lintel]

i know, i thought the flamer staff was only useful for blinding your teammate

[burnt maple]

Or blessings that require another one to work, etc

[static lintel]

then i got an actual decent one

[burnt maple]

The purg staff is unique in that almost none of the stats matter and even one with a mediocre Burn stat is still going to chew up hordes which is what you want it for

We were talking about the Voidstrike charge rate stat awhile ago and the difference between an 80% charge rate staff and a 60%? Charge rate staff is something like 0.05 seconds

I forgot the exact numbers

[static lintel]

just reading that makes me want to deinstall darktide

[burnt maple]

Just the rating and % systems they use are extremely dumb and unintuative

[static lintel]

i mean

nowhere in the game they say that 80% is also the max

instead of youknow

100%, like sane people assume

[burnt maple]

Oh yeah, when I hit 30 on my ogryn for the first time, I wasn't in the discord or anything, I kept looking for weapons higher than 80% damage thinking something was broken or i needed to clear damnation first or something

It never tells you that 80% is the max it will roll

[static lintel]

yeah, it was when i came in here asking what was a good staff for flamers

that someone said oh its almost perfect and im like. But it has nothing above 80%?

[burnt maple]

Lower difficulties also give such crap plasteel amounts that new players can waste an entire day doing malice/ struggle through heresy to upgrade a weapon only to be rewarded with a Run 'N' Gun/Terrifying Barage paper weight

[static lintel]

i havent been rolling weapons

i dont like difficulty 4-5, and difficulty 3 just needs decent weapons

i also have no idea which weapons i want to use on most classes

like i genuinely have no idea which melee weapon to use on the psyker for instance

[cosmic sigil]

Diff 5 is fine. It's Heresy that's a shit fest

[lyric burrow]

If you want meta either illisi or deimos

But really use whatever you want

[burnt maple]

The Force Swords. Illisi, Deimos, or Obscurous. The Deimos is very popular but I prefer the Illisi, which is also popular

Look for high damage% and First Target%

[cosmic sigil]

Finesse too as a third stat

[lyric burrow]

Im trying to get good rolls of everything in the game just cause everything is good enough to clear damn

And most weapons are fun

[burnt maple]

Try to get the blessings Slaughterer, Deflector (any rank), and Unstable Strike? The damage increase with Peril and see how you like them

[lyric burrow]

Unstable power

Uncanny strike is the strike one

[burnt maple]

Slaughterer is the main one you want, and of the other two, Deflector is defensive and Unstable power is more offensive

But deflector also let's you play more aggressive

[lyric burrow]

I reccomend something to help with stamina if you run deflector

[burnt maple]

The Kinetic Deflection feat helps a lot if you run Deflector

I don't run any stamina curios and I don't worry about blocking etc

Also, for Deflector you need to face gunners to block bullets

[rain saddle]

thanks emprah

[burnt maple]

Nice! Do the purgatus flames still stack Headtaker?

[rain saddle]

prob

[burnt maple]

Even better

[cyan portal]

yup, they'll give you some decimator stacks too

[burnt maple]

Oh that's really good, didn't know it would do chained hits

[cyan portal]

it won't start them, but when you do a melee you'll get a bunch of stacks really fast

[tropic vigil]

upgraded it to gold and i got barrage iv

[lyric burrow]

🫡

[flint pawn]

Which of these are better? (Also should I change any of the perks)

[trail orbit]

Warp nexus only a selection of enemies can be suppressed.

[flint pawn]

Gotcha. Should I change the Unarmoured for something else or is that fine? I didn't know what else would work.

[trail orbit]

Idk if I am correct that staff used to have a passive damage buff to elites or soemthing. That’s why it isn’t used as much anymore. I would just go the crit build if I were you but keep the damage part to something that targets shooters because this staff is decent at that.

[flint pawn]

Aren't most shooters Unarmoured? I'm not fully familiar with everything's armor weights

[trail orbit]

After looking at the body parts and their armor types that’s a good damage combo.

[meager plinth]

its split 50/50

[trail orbit]

Scabs have flak armor on some parts and the other shooters got nothing except their gunner (tan)

[tropic vigil]

while were on the topic of surge staff, what exactly does holding the cast do? i feel like it doesnt affect the duration, so is it something else or am i ogryn brained?

[flint pawn]

It pushes the damage range up dramatically but that's about it I think

[trail orbit]

No so holding the cast lengthens the stun. Targets more enemies and does more damage.

You can animation cancel to send more shocks a second.

It’s not as effective as say animation cancelling on the projectile staff but it helps a little.

[flint pawn]

Does it actually target more enemies? Felt like it always hits 6 targets whenever I spam shocks

[trail orbit]

Yeah. Go try it on a crowd of enemies.

[tropic vigil]

im used to purgatus so when i hold the cast all the way it feels like its glitching and ending early but i figured i might be tripping

[trail orbit]

Maybe it’s me seeing it at the end of its range

[flint pawn]

Then again, I'm not really inclined to shock a horde unless someone's in mortal peril so I guess I haven't tried it very much

[trail orbit]

Yeah I kinda only shock the crowd when I see another player getting overwhelmed.

[flint pawn]

That or if specials are mixed in, naturally

[trail orbit]

Give them the couple second they need for stamina

Crowd + ogryns can be quite tuff if you don’t got a place to fall back to or the room is small

What do you think about the obscurus force sword?

[flint pawn]

Just feels objectively far worse than the other two

Feels like it has nowhere near the horde clearing potential of the Illisi or the single target of the Deimos and doesn't have anything else to make up for that

[tropic vigil]

obscurous = xylospongium

[flint pawn]

I'd rather use a Devil's Claw

Didn't think I'd be saying that today

[spice veldt]

fun fact: your inventory will start lagging and drop frames if you have too many items

[steel flame]

Been there

It sucked

[spice veldt]

yeah I buy curios whenever I can and the curio inventory is like 5 frames per second

[steel flame]

Ha

[spice veldt]

viewing your inventory through hadron's doesn't seem to have the same performance issues though

[cosmic sigil]

Curios for my psyker are way worse than for my vet or zealot. It's near impossible to get 17% tg curios... And I routinely get 14 or 15% and a shitload of wound curios too.

[silver quest]

i literally got one on my psyker and not on my vet lol

[cosmic sigil]

Maybe that has changed for all characters... I stopped buying curios for vet and zelaot a long time ago.

[silver quest]

i saw it in Brunts

[cosmic sigil]

Wooh nice.

[silver quest]

i got mad at both of my veterans because darktide kept boning me on my rolls

every weapon i rolled after getting an amazing plasmagun (which is now null and void thanks to the Blessing update for Blaze Away)

[cosmic sigil]

Apparently it doesn't change anything. @lunar hollow ?

[harsh urchin]

oh no

is it time

[cosmic sigil]

Pew pew

[solemn hornet]

@harsh urchin what is this screenshot from?

[harsh urchin]

armory checker

lets you check your shop without logging in

[solemn hornet]

Thx

[snow coral]

maybe i'm being 'classist', is it just me or do vets and zealot players tend to be on the lower end of skilled when it comes to damnation?

vets are always shooting my blue heads and not ressing because they're too buys ADS, and zealots are dying because they think they have to be in the middle of a horde always

jsut did a run with three zealots and they all went down constantly and died within the first 25% of the run

[lunar hollow]

yes. blaze away functions the same as it did prior to the latest patch @silver quest

for plasma

[cosmic sigil]

It can be returning players... Or malice / heresy players

[mental rock]

usually when I play zealot im the only one who doesnt die

[silver quest]

they were talking about power,

to me it acts different,

i dont see the blazeaway symbol come on as often.

or it doesnt climb as high

You have to repeaditly hit targets? Still testing.......

[lunar hollow]

you just mash m1

[amber abyss]

Whats the curio set people are running these days? I think I have 1 wound / 3 stam / toughness on most builds

[cosmic sigil]

Zealots benefits from running with low HP.

[lunar hollow]

any significant delay resets it, same as before

[silver quest]

holy shit

it was my time between aiming

[lunar hollow]

lol

[silver quest]

thats shitty lol

[mental rock]

yeah its a fairly short window

[silver quest]

see it didnt used to be that bad I thought ?

[spice veldt]

I personally run 3 toughness in all my curios since i'm fairly comfy with not getting ganked by enemies that all deal relative toughness damage

[silver quest]

I like to ensure im going to nail 3 ammo worth of shot, not just dump it lol

that means you cant charge shot blaze away?

[lunar hollow]

you can

[cosmic sigil]

Tbh vet or zealot killing bb are a non problem. Because they will probably take care of the menace faster and you should use your bb on menace not in range. As soon as I started doing that, I never had that PB anymore

[lunar hollow]

the timing on it is just weird

[silver quest]

^ as long as im not the only one that thinks that lol

[lunar hollow]

and you get like, 3 charge shots with good thermal res

and venting ends your BA stacks

[silver quest]

that is the one stat that is trash, but from last i tested you get 3 charged shots with 63% thermal resistance!

[robust sierra]

what's the best ranged/staff generally speaking?

[steel flame]

well of course im gonna say its trauma and autopistol right now

but its mostly preference, all the staves are pretty competitive at different things

[spice veldt]

yeah, if you're not playing premades, then trauma/autopistol also gets my vote

[steel flame]

ok lads, time to check ole sour milk for my daily dose of disappointment

[amber abyss]

surge for the new modifier is evry helpful

[cosmic sigil]

My surge killed 9 maulers at the same time yesterday. By blowing me up.

[meager plinth]

I find much more use with purg tbh

[cosmic sigil]

Tbh. That was the best that could have happened 😂

[steel flame]

i did a elite resistance with an Autopistol build using 133133 and between wrack and ruin and the flayer laceration procs on stuff it was pretty much a cakewalk

i have to say gunners and specials not dying to a single BB is actually a buff for wrack and ruin and i can get even more stacks going and just decimate everything

[fluid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusting-disgusteng-disgust-gif-5456694

[meager plinth]

and elite res lets me use celebral laceration pretty effectively

[steel flame]

cant wait for the inevitable. damnation hi intensity elite resistance shock troop gauntlet

[sour jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-excited-screaming-gif-20651075

[cosmic sigil]

Hi Int Lights out elite resistance

[robust sierra]

the shredder autopistol? I'll be honest I don't really like it

how could I use it better?

[teal needle]

There any gun for psykers that does okay against maulers / carapace enemies? Haven't tried a gunker since like December

[steel flame]

you get pinning fire and blaze away on it, flak and maniac damage,

you can burn through everything except crushers with it which you can just use BB for

you can do horde clear with it but i recommend saving it for when you need to make space or just mow down every elite in sight

[robust sierra]

I see

is the surge staff any good?

[steel flame]

I prefer using a KB build with it. Flayer and lacerations are excpetional on it with its high fire rate you can proc flayer on whatever you want without much effort and then be doing 25% more damage to whatever it procked on

that just deletes mutants and ragers

[spice veldt]

surge is fine, but hopefully you're comfortable with melee

[robust sierra]

I see

I rarely play psyker, so I'm just trying to figure out how to level mine the best

I mainly play ogryn and veteran

[steel flame]

i would stick to guns or the purge staff while leveling

[lunar hollow]

anti surging hordes propaganda

[spice veldt]

psyker's melee is probably at the strongest that it's ever going to be at

[steel flame]

most of the staves have really harsh stat scaling and suck ass at lower levels

[spice veldt]

i'll surge you

[lunar hollow]

that sounds painful

no thanks

[steel flame]

god just get a room already you two

[spice veldt]

this is our room

[kind jay]

this is a room

[lunar hollow]

i've tried surge staff exactly once on elite resistance and the opinion i have formed is that i will never, ever touch it again

[warm latch]

for gun psyker is it just shredder autopistol? or are there other guns that work well?

[lunar hollow]

the thammer zealot refusing to hit the mutie and just kinda standing still was pretty funny

[spice veldt]

i like the agripinaa infantry autogun

[steel flame]

other guns work.

[spice veldt]

too bad it suffers from lack-of-ammo-itis

[elfin nexus]

recon las is ok as long as you dont try to kill any maniacs with it lol

[lunar hollow]

the IAG has the least ammo and best weakspot/crit multiplier, and the precision autogun family has a worse headshot/crit multi but the highest ammo

[steel flame]

the weird thing with shredder is that it has stupid high damage but also a great ammo economy to boot and it melts everything in the game

[lunar hollow]

a very wise series of design choices from fatshark

[spice veldt]

you can smell the consistent design

[steel flame]

its also got the best stagger in the game

well some of the best stagger in the game

[lunar hollow]

i would really hope i couldn't smell any of this considering it's a computer game

[spice veldt]

smelly

[meager plinth]

a burnt plastic type of smell

[steel flame]

didn't you hear? that a new feature of that new fangled Metaverse vr goggle

too bad they could only make two since they tossed all their money into a volcano

[lunar hollow]

that's uncalled for

[fathom adder]

Others work, just not as well. The Autopistol is very powerful on its own, but it has both a high fire rate for proc'ing Kinetic Flayer, and its massive and brain-dead-easy Power boost blessings make Ascendant Blaze actually kill things. No other gun synergizes this well with Psyker feats. That said you can bring a Kantrael XII with any class and build and do well if you can click heads

[hallow terrace]

pssst, could anybody help me get the 90% brain burst damage vs. boss penance?

been trying it with bots and lordy 💀

[cloud sequoia]

find an ogryn with a shield

wait im in spark ead channel

[burnt maple]

what are y'all using for Elite Resistance?

[wheat quartz]

I like trauma so far

[compact cargo]

Surge/trauma

Since any other cc weapon doesn't work reliably (indignatus, paul, etc) psyker is the ONLY one able to stop an overhead from a crusher
as a bonus caxe or deimos depending on the mood, the infinite dodges help a lot when you have the "psyker can kite the boss for 3 hours" option as your team deals with the horde/elites

[wheat quartz]

I use blazing trauma, and it feels like between the knockdown and the large HP pools giving the dot a good chance to stack up, it was pretty worth having

Was thinking of swapping Illisi out for Deimos just for the extra cc of the special

[compact cargo]

Either I'm suffering latency, or occasionaly the Deimos special won't cc a crusher mid attack animation

I hope it's just me

[spice veldt]

i had that same experience albeit with the obscurus special

that was a few months ago, but it's presumably the same issue

[wheat quartz]

Oh if it's unreliable I'll just hang on to Illisi then

[serene breach]

does autopistol shredder blessing pinning fire, still buff Ascenant blaze?

[meager plinth]

ye

same with any power%

[near wyvern]

Eh, recon guns are still very ammo hungry but at least they do damage now

It's like shredder with slower fire rate but longer range and lacking the good blessings

[serene breach]

maby i been using shredder often, recon gun lack the stopping power

for me atleast....

[near wyvern]

@spice veldt @compact cargo

Did someone touch the crusher just before you used the special? Crushers get 3 second stagger immunity after a strong stagger / knockdown animation recovery animation ends. That is 3 seconds beginning from when the crushers can start to do actions they will be immune. Gotta wait for the very end of the overhead to be safe.

Trauma has the same thing

[near wyvern]

They buffed their damage

On the latest patch

[spice veldt]

i assumed that the obscurus/deimos special ignored their immunity but I guess not

[serene breach]

hmmm, will try this on Ascenant blaze Gunker build then

[compact cargo]

Nope, just resistance as I was trying solo

[ornate hamlet]

ngl

I think the ult is straight up bugged

[meager plinth]

psyker's ult?

[ornate hamlet]

you know that room in uhhh idfk but you enter it with an elevator and a medstation in front of you and a bunch of gunners in it

I dove in, ulted and literally nothing in front of me staggered

and it goes on top of the previous and future times from that point in which I couldn't stagger many other enemies that were just casually standing or walking

like, the ult's stagger potential is straight up fucked for me

I'm dead sure they broke something, but I have no idea what

[frank hazel]

Is revolver viable for psyker now

I haven't got one but

Or is gun psyker a cardinal sin still

[meager plinth]

It can serve well as quickdraw to deal with shotgunners and ragers quickly

but it still has a lot of flaws

[frank hazel]

Ah okay

[ornate hamlet]

It's pretty okay

Still has the drawbacks that were the biggest issue, but the damage buff at least mitigates some of it

Being able to two-shot a mauler on the body is heavenly

[frank hazel]

I remember it being super fun to play with as I was levelling

[serene breach]

tested, yeah recon gun is a good swap for shredder for long range steady barrage. but i miss shredder mid range stopping power to stun mob though, especially pox hound.

[meager plinth]

its usable if you want a way to deal with spread out shooters quickly and efficiently but its better on like vet

[cosmic sigil]

Well. You can use a vraks3 or 7 to do that. And better I think.

[meager plinth]

same reason why high skill psykers use dueling swords

[meager plinth]

It looks so goofy with hair

[tired totem]

another revolver game

[meager plinth]

niiice

popping off

normal damnation?

[tired totem]

Low int even XD I am just QP'ing

But I played it already on ER and Hi5

and no problems

also top dmg because I am just that good

Also fun fact

the text on the new Power Sword Skin - Virescit Vulnere Virtus

Means "Courage becomes greater when wounded"

[meager plinth]

that is an indication that you should use 3 wound curios

[tired totem]

And it was a motto of a real Scottish clan - Clan Stewart

[meager plinth]

[tired totem]

11 missions

until I am done with all sharpshooter contracts

[meager plinth]

want help?