psyker-class

[upper galleon]

i see

i like this illisi focused build and damn i'm not even near bis and i'm shredding through mixed hordes

[spice veldt]

quietude's in-combat regen sucks ass, but you do get to "bank" toughness if you're staying at 100% peril, and it isn't an on-kill condition

[kind jay]

i learned how to dodgedance hosts and no one ever wakes them up for me

just gonna have to barrel people towards them

[novel osprey]

Does Brain Burst count as a Warp Attack for Warp Absorption?

[wheat quartz]

iirc it's slaughterer / unstable power | deflector

[novel osprey]

Sorry, I realized too late my answer wasn't quite fitting.

[upper galleon]

i think im gonna go abck to soulblaze for now tho

[lunar hollow]

psyker gaming

[upper galleon]

is the purge staff breakpoints same as flamer?

ie 76% for burn

and whats the cloud radius BP

sheesh

[lunar hollow]

theres no breakpoint on cloud radius

the higher it is the better

[upper galleon]

fair enough but nicee hadron

dont even need to waste a blessing slot

carapace to flak? unyielding? hmm

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/head-scratcher-confused-perplexed-huh-clash-with-cam-gif-10198268

[upper galleon]

nice

[ornate hamlet]

Guess we know where the player luck went

Sorry guys, your rolls are mine

Good luck next time

[lunar hollow]

@spice veldt what tier is focused channeling

[ornate hamlet]

2

[lunar hollow]

am i going to have to make a psyker alt to fish for low tier blessings

[ornate hamlet]

I am the arcotash

[lunar hollow]

you are not

go away

[upper galleon]

ugh this classes pins in discord suck making me click links

im gonna go unyielding since i normally pump boss

3 vet team!

woooo

well uh

maybe if my gaem didn't crash

huh

i got crossplayed error?

did fs do an oopsie and turn on crossplay before it was implemented

[steel flame]

ya know i wouldnt put that past them

[olive ember]

@lunar hollow really fishing for focused channeling

Actual disappointment

[lunar hollow]

🕌

my honest response

[olive ember]

Wtf does that even mean

[young ridge]

I think it's pretty obvious

[olive ember]

I honestly don’t get it

Maybe im not degenerate enough… @lunar hollow explain your degen mind plox

[lunar hollow]

u really dont want me to do that

[olive ember]

Okay ima go sleep then

Gn

[lunar hollow]

gn

[meager plinth]

One of the many effects of having a Haj on your bed

[lilac tapir]

Got this in Melk store today, how does this blessing work with K12? Does every shot benefit basically? Is this what people use on K12? Thanks.

[vast hare]

Iirc it has a very short timer that constitutes a Salvo, so it will end up reducing your fire rate to get it every shit.

But that's only if I recall correctly, I might be thinking of something else

[lilac tapir]

alright, will test it with lower level blessing later tonight before grabbing rank IV just in case 🙂 Thanks!

[fluid knot]

Its about 2s without firing to reset it

If you can measure your shots as such, yeah you can benifit all the time, but honestly, just use stave kek

[lilac tapir]

Thanks. I don't use K12 on Psyker, using Shredder if I'm running a gun. But I'm levelling my vet so trying to get some good blessings for the vet since I have plenty of melk bucks on this character and very little on my vet 🙂

[meager plinth]

It’s serviceable for a gun psyker, let’s you deal with shooters efficiently without needing to drain a lot of ammo for your tram

[near wyvern]

Interestingly it seems the opening salvo resets faster when hip firing

[meager plinth]

Significantly faster or what’s up?

[near wyvern]

Last time I checked it felt like it but haven't timed it frame by frame

But if that is the case, it also buffs your close up damage while hipfiring

[fluid knot]

Yeah, you can flick out of ADS for a full reset, but you need to fully drop out of ADS for it, so its only somewhat useful

[near wyvern]

I mean just firing without ADS

[fluid knot]

Aye, but thats only applicable on the semi-auto HH, you're not gonna be getting reliable or accurate hipfire outta the lasguns

[near wyvern]

It's not beneficial to drop out of ADS, it disorients your aim picture and makes it harder to acquire your targets, whatever DPS you would get for exploiting opening salvo, you loose many times more in missing your shots or taking more time to aim

[fluid knot]

Honestly they should just change it to when the recoil mechanic returns to neutral, that would be a buff on everything

[fluid knot]

Yeah, hence why i said only somewhat useful..

More an example of you being able to reset it like that, not that its good

[ornate hamlet]

Opening salvo takes so long to me on MG12 that I just use something else

[meager plinth]

Hopium on my part that it gets improved next patch

[inland sand]

Opening Salvo only really worth it on HH autos

pretty bad on Lasguns

not doing anything most of the time

[south zephyr]

Siblings, any suggested changes for this Purge build?

[meager plinth]

I'd suggest warp unleashed since it buffs your soulblaze DoT and you don't want to lower your peril generation too much if you want to make the most of kinetic shield

Or you could use kinetic barrage with wrack n ruin to quickly increase your soulblaze stacks on elites

[south zephyr]

thought about defaulting to Deflection, but after playing gun psyker for a while, fell in love with Shield

and melee hasn't had deflector on it in a while now

but I do have access to t4 deflector

[meager plinth]

The deflector feat is good for clutch revives but kinetic lets you avoid damage that could put you and your team in a clutch situation

With purg you are gonna stay at high peril anyway for Nexus so it will passively make you more resistant to shooters while you cleave hordes

Tho I would recommend having a +3 Stam curio to compensate for losing the massive block-pool that deflector feat gives

[barren arch]

remind me again; is Soulblaze the same as the fire staff's burning effect?

[south zephyr]

should be, yes

[barren arch]

neato, thanks bunches

[south zephyr]

if only brunt sold curios

[meager plinth]

Soulblaze is different than burn

I don't have charts on me atm tho

[south zephyr]

but does the Purge not apply soulblaze?

procs soulblaze feats...

[meager plinth]

Oh nvm I misread that

Yes it's the same

Except that the staff has a lower limit of stacks

So if you reach max stacks you can use wrack n ruin or ascending blaze to go further

[spice veldt]

should also be 15 stacks at >76% burn on the flamer isn't it

[meager plinth]

Yep yep!

Tho when we will be able to overclocks our stats we will be able to reach 16 stacks

[south zephyr]

left is Purge, right is flamer

[ember hornet]

did you know that overclocks are/were actually a thing in the code

stuff like higher damage lower defences

[meager plinth]

Yep

It's how we will be able to reach 100% except if they reworked the entire system

[ember hornet]

I highly doubt overclocks are going to be a thing

probably a relic of past development

[fluid knot]

They're blatantly gonna implement a way of getting stats to 100 in the future, but it might be a very long way off at this point

[meager plinth]

Yep

Either reds or overclocks

Me putting my peril resist to 0% so I can get that 200% burn

[fluid knot]

Inb4 you end up spawning demonic incursions mid-map

[meager plinth]

Skill issue tbh

Honestly overclocked weapons with no limit would be goated

Putting all your stats to 0 except 1 which is at like 380%\500%

[fluid knot]

Jesus could you imagine..

[meager plinth]

I want it so bad

[fluid knot]

Take Paul/Crusher an put power output to 500% an yeet guys into the fucking stratosphere

[meager plinth]

I need

[fluid knot]

Would be game changing for sure, make a lot of weapons a whole lot more viable

200% shotgun reload speed, drop stability to 0%... excellent..

[twilit flicker]

Here's hoping they rework the whole system while changing the locks. They may well work on it all together at once, right?

[fluid knot]

We'll see over the course of the next 18 months i guess

[meager plinth]

At least they mentioned the locks in the last comms-link

[fluid knot]

Did they say we're getting more locks?

I swear Fatshark has some serious k*nk issues

[meager plinth]

[fluid knot]

No. Cursed. Remove it nauh!

[meager plinth]

My achlys :3333333

[old oyster]

can anyone explain me what a different between warp swords ? there is 3 types , 1 of them is a fire what understood ( the longest one )

[lunar hollow]

illisi is horde clear and pretty busted

deimos is single target

obscurus is supposed to be in between but is worse than the other 2

[meager plinth]

Basically what Josho said ^

[warm mica]

Best warp sword for you ?

[lunar hollow]

i run the illisi

deimos is normally paired with a staff that does horde clear like purg

and i dont really run purg

[warm mica]

Like the purgatus staff ?

[meager plinth]

Illisi has access to a special that boosts your next swing's stats

Deimos has enhanced dodges and a insanely high damage heavy2

Illisi is the most simple, no brainer high damage

[warm mica]

I haven't had a chance to try Illisi yet, but I like Deimos.

[old oyster]

i just tested it too and i already love it xd

[warm mica]

Which sword do you recommend when you're playing mainly with the brain burst and the Purgatus staff ?

[lunar hollow]

most people prefer the deimos

but the illisi is incredibly powerful currently and you're not really ever losing anything by running it

[old oyster]

idk but after test i like more ilis

its gives me to play more agro than on others

[near wyvern]

It's just most people don't use surge or guns so that's why Deimos is popular

[lunar hollow]

i was specifically talking about with purg

[ornate hamlet]

la purga

[inland sand]

I don't really get the Ilisi hype

it feels like the heavy sword to me

[old oyster]

is there any specioal build for ilis ? or what stats i need to watch on it

[inland sand]

i still run it cause I enjoy Surge staff but i don't really get the fuss

[near wyvern]

As long as you have Slaughterer on it it's good

[spice veldt]

for me, the illisi makes diving ranged enemies really nice

I get to generate peril during normal combat and without having to go out of my way to do it while meleeing, and the other aspects of the illisi is just a more mobile and faster power sword without PC

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/lpcche

the illisi turns any situation u were in danger into a situation where the enemy is in danger

[spice veldt]

toughness Regen from melee seems to be a bit underrated

I also like the cleave of illisi's special for hitting pouncing dogs through a bunch of trash

[kind jay]

illy + absorb is a good time

[spice veldt]

I don't like to kite, so the stagger from illisi's special is well appreciated

[lunar hollow]

he was forced to eat a crusher overhead when he was 6

[spice veldt]

we don't talk about that

[lunar hollow]

a good relationship is built on communication

smh

[spice veldt]

TRUE

[old oyster]

how you see a hp of enemys ? were is that setting

[lunar hollow]

you have to sell your soul to the modding devil

[old oyster]

[lunar hollow]

i play with bloom on so i spend like 1/3rd of all matches i play blinded by flames

so its an even trade

[old oyster]

time to search mod

also can you show your best ilis ? to know what i need to get or watch on it

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-shocked-sunlight-gif-13255586

me seeing the first usage of purgatus in a match

my eyes adjust after

[lunar hollow]

this is the illisi i use

[loud peak]

What does 4% power mean here? 4 max or 4x X stacks?

[lunar hollow]

its 4% per 20% peril

with 4 total stacks

[loud peak]

Nice, thanks

[lunar hollow]

this is my feat setup

[lyric burrow]

I run the same thing but kinetic shield

Seems like i see a lot of similar feats minus some intentionally different ones

[old oyster]

now im heretic

i found there 3rd person mod

gonna try it

[kind jay]

3rd person is how true chads play

[ornate hamlet]

Dear god...

[silver quest]

(I've re-blessed terrifying barrage to the tier IV version since this)

And ill re-roll the maniacs

[near wyvern]

Why?

Slap Flurry on it

[kind jay]

what's the appeal of tb on purge? does it even do anything

[silver quest]

I haven't been given flurry

[kind jay]

that's also fair

[silver quest]

Or if I have its T2 garage

It can always be re-blessed if I do get it.

I'll keep an eye on Mell

Melk*

[near wyvern]

There is no appeal on terrifying barrage at the moment, especially on staves. Either your staff supresses already in which case you have overlap, or it staggers/stuns which will completely override the terrifying barrage effect.

[near wyvern]

Even T2 flurry is better than T4 terrifying barrage

[silver quest]

I'll admit I'm new to expirementing for weapons on the Psyker

but I can't honestly recall if I've been blessed with Flurry lol

[silver quest]

That's fair too

[near wyvern]

It doesn't help that the blessings are per staff :/

[silver quest]

L

So I need to find another Purg.

With flurry

[near wyvern]

Yes

[silver quest]

good to know

I used to play veteran mostly but the grinding and re-rolling made me mad lol so back to psyker it is

[near wyvern]

And you might want to consider rolling that +maniac into +5% crit chance

Crits on puegatus apply double the soulblaze stacks

So it ramps up damage a bit quicker

[silver quest]

Ooh nice

[near wyvern]

Early stacks have exponential scaling to around 10-11 stacks

[silver quest]

Thank ya

[near wyvern]

@silver quest you might find some useful information in the Psyker Atheneum (link in pinned messages) and this playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOqPFl_Q4iarX8ICc5Cwfc_ojsqKtEt1b

[old oyster]

its feels so different , i mean reminds me a game space marine lol

[kind jay]

then you'll be happy to know space marine 2 is coming

[nimble bolt]

For the perks what shall I change bearing in mind the other will be locked? Thinking ill refine sprint efficiency

[lunar hollow]

i mean honestly

groaners/poxers is never gonna do anything ever

sprint efficiency at least has an impact kinda

[nimble bolt]

True, 8% on 10 is basically nothing

[lunar hollow]

yea

[meager plinth]

I'll have to double check but I don't think terrifying barrage proc on soulblaze kills

[nimble bolt]

Pretty sure it does, been using it on my last one

Never tried warp flurry though

Have been using TB with Run n Gun till now

[burnt maple]

Terrifying barage is a waste and garbage

It doesn't even affect most enemies

[nimble bolt]

I have Warp Nexus T3 but I dont imagine crits with the Purgatus do much more damage

[burnt maple]

They do

[meager plinth]

Crits apply 2 stacks of soulblaze

[nimble bolt]

Oh I didnt know that

[burnt maple]

+5 crit and Nexus are both very good on Purg

[meager plinth]

Which is why nexus is the best blessing

[nimble bolt]

Oh okay, Ill go get mroe plasteel then refine that and put Nexus on

Cheers

[meager plinth]

Hopefully next patch gives more options

[old oyster]

yes i know . im waiting it

[fluid knot]

Tbh pretty good on Void too, crits often enough even if the crit damage boost isnt massive

[burnt maple]

I've been using transfer peril and flurry on my voidstrike, but crits definitely good!

If you're doing the soulblaze thing with the VS, then crits are much more important

[meager plinth]

Or surge on voidstrike

Incredibly fun

If you move your cursor while firing the 2 orbs will go on different lines

Which is insanely good against hordes

[olive ember]

Memestrike is meh in general, crit strike is… subpar imo

[lyric burrow]

I used use exclusively voidstrike but as ive used other staffs more(mostly trauma) ive realized it does feel weak

Theres maps i like it on and the range is nice

But it feels weaker overall

[burnt maple]

It's dumb that Trauma can get Surge blessing and it doesn't affect the the secondary fire

[near wyvern]

Wouldn't matter much. The epicenter insta gibs all trash so against anything else than specials / elites, the proc would just wiff.

[meager plinth]

Especially if there is a delay like voidstrike

Everything gets moved away from the center

So the damage would be minimal

Except if the second one would be where your cursor points to

I'm curious of how the other mark patterns of the trauma staff will do

[burnt maple]

That's my point, it's a waste of a blessing

[meager plinth]

On trauma? 100%

It was added to dilute the blessing pool

Voidstrike with surge is good tho

[near wyvern]

Not really

Warp Flurry + Transfer Peril and Blazing Spirit + Warp Nexus are better

You can accidentally quell cancel the surge proc, and if you don't, it will most likely hit a wall since your last ball just cleared the way.

Blazing spirit does more damage to sides and applies 6 stacks in case the ball stops, which deals more damage than the additional void ball

[meager plinth]

In my personal experience, surge/nexus works pretty fantastically, I don't need to shoot it more than 3-4 times maximum so I wouldn't make much use of neither

[near wyvern]

https://youtu.be/fL0JTGPvqwk

And if you are not quell cancelling while not using a flurry you are missing out on a lot of DPS

[lunar hollow]

this

i think maybe it would help with stuff outside the epicentre if the explosion was instant? but even then the falloff on it is pretty bad so it wouldnt do much

[near wyvern]

Yup. The only thing that can use the outer blast is Blazing Spirit and that requires Warp Nexus 4

[rare gorge]

how good is my flamer?

[lunar hollow]

pretty nice

swap groaners/poxers for like crit chance and terrifying barrage for nexus

[rare gorge]

nexus is which one again?

[lunar hollow]

gives crit chance

but it doesn't say that on the tooltip. you just gain

[shut matrix]

I love

[kind jay]

GAINS

[meager plinth]

It could only increase damage against like Ogryns and some elites, which isn't worth a lot on psyker

The other option would be a 1s delay so it has more effectiveness in crowds, giving time for enemies to go back into the radius of the explosion

Which would be great if you want to put enemies behind your teammates

[twilit finch]

Is warp flurry good on a shock staff?

I know it kicks ass on a trauma staff but I am not so sure about the lightning staff

A fully charged shock will generally be all I really need, maybe 2.

[dire ginkgo]

Hi guys. I have this staff. What should I try and get on it?

[meager plinth]

Good base modifiers except cloud radius

Bad perk

Let's see how Hadron does it

[dire ginkgo]

kk

Anything that I should modify?

[rich rose]

What ever happened to Unstable Power on powersword?

[meager plinth]

Unstable power is force sword only

[rich rose]

Meant forcesword.

It was supposed to be the "blessing" to chase but no one seems to run it now

[meager plinth]

Everyone runs it now

On deimos it helps reach the mutie 1shot breakpoint

Illisi you can spam the special to quickly get max unstable stacks

[upper galleon]

gonna go into damnation under geared ready to be carried

[rich rose]

Not accordin to people yesterday. They were saying to run Unstable power and shred

[meager plinth]

Replace stamina with crit%

[meager plinth]

For which blaze force sword?

[harsh urchin]

sometimes people say stupid shit

you just gotta ignore them lmao

[twilit finch]

What does warp nexus actually buff? Wasn't it crit chance?

[meager plinth]

Nah you just gain

[twilit finch]

Big gains

[upper galleon]

taking my illisi through damnation

damn it holds up well

BB tho

even with high peril+6 charges

struggles to one shot

[lunar hollow]

BB 1 shots most things with WU + battery

hell if u sit at 100 peril with BBs u can 2 shot a crusher

(without lacerations)

[twilit finch]

When did sparkhead get mah bull butcher

Dat is my knife

[upper galleon]

yes that is what i have

[twilit finch]

(Oh wait brain burst. I was legit confused)

[upper galleon]

just rough maintaining 6 charges when i'm competing with 2 vets and a gunlugger larper

and it's not even a larp ogryn twin stubber is ridic

[twilit finch]

I keep trying for the max charges thing and people kill my bb targets

[upper galleon]

tbf, i am running quicken cause it makes the most sense for illisi focused build

so I do spend them in emergencies so i can double F and do some insane peril risking

[lunar hollow]

just run communion and like

kill stuff

[upper galleon]

i am

i am

[lunar hollow]

i find that kinetic barrage saves my life considerably more often than ults do

[upper galleon]

hmm

im gonna go back on me ogryn i haven't played since month 1

return of drog

[olive ember]

ideally something like flak + maniac/crit chance imo. Unyielding if you think you really want to deal boss damage with purge staff. blessigns you want warp nexus IV with warp flurry IV

[steel flame]

Ugh. Week 3 of hunting surge on void staff. Hate this crafting system

[ember hornet]

based

[dire ginkgo]

Okay, gonna se if I can get something like that. For some reason I like the "lightning" staff better

[olive ember]

Lightning staff is the exact same honestly imo, except you can throw in unarmoured into the mix ig to help offset the complete garbage damage of surge vs those types of enemies

[shut willow]

Silblings! What perks do you recommend for the Trauma Force Staff?

[steel flame]

It depends. What kinda trauma staff do you want. There's vanilla rending shockwave and warp flurry or the extra exotic blazing spirit, warp nexus crit fire build

[shut willow]

I'm using Warp Flurry and Rending Shockwave, I was however talking about perks, not blessings

Should have phrased that better - I get you now
Sorry I sound dumb with this reply lol

Would be interested in both builds!

[steel flame]

I'd say flack and either maniac or unarmored, I do see people doing unyielding for crushers and monstrosities

If you want fire trauma it's gonna be flack and 5% crit chance

[shut willow]

Thank you 🙂

[steel flame]

As a rule of thumb, unless it's a crit build you always want flack and maniac/unarmored

For.....well pretty much everything. Most of the other perks are just bad or super situational such as carapace and unyielding

[shut willow]

Reminds me of V2's good old Swift Slaying for 90% of builds lol

[steel flame]

Yep....

[silver quest]

there we go

[meager plinth]

some melees will want infested/unarmored to perform correctly too

Paul for example

[silver quest]

Whats good to run on a V Blaze force sword ?

Or do people prefer the IVs ?

[meager plinth]

Illisi MkV is the best for horde clear(and everything beside it)
Deimos MkIV is the best for single target

usual setup is flak/maniac with slaughterer/unstable power

[silver quest]

Well since i'm running Purgatus, i dont see the need for the crowd clearing.

[inland sand]

althought u don't need flak on Deimos

[silver quest]

Yeah i noticed it could one tap the dog so...

thats a In Case of Emergency win lol

[inland sand]

can take UY/Cara/Stam/Block instead

[spice veldt]

maybe for an easier one-shot on scab maulers

[inland sand]

don't need it

[silver quest]

^

i am in the psykitarium (or whatever lol)

[inland sand]

Flak actually does nothing on the Deimos, learned that the hard way the other day from one of yous lot

the thrusts ignore flak armour or some shit

[spice veldt]

the light stab and heavies deal 100% to it yeah

I still think it's more generally applicable than the other perks

[silver quest]

whats yalls favorite staff ?

[mental rock]

trauma is king

[spice veldt]

trauma

[meager plinth]

Trauma

[spice veldt]

if only because I dislike the other staffs

[meager plinth]

because it synergies very well with my general playstyle and melee but I do switch between every staff except surge

[shut willow]

What's your feats of choice for the blaze build if you don't mind me asking?

[steel flame]

I run 311222

[shut willow]

Thanks!

[steel flame]

The first 3 and the last are pretty self evident, for 4 and 5, shield over deflection because I stay pegged at above 80 peril all match so peril block isn't up most of the time anyway. For 5 I take wildfire, while it doesn't get much value on say purge staff, it gets a lot more value when your capping at 6 sb outside AB and it helps significantly to keep the fire raging.

[chrome arch]

I can't remember; can you run warp battery with wildfire or are they in the same column?

[meager plinth]

same column

[chrome arch]

Gotcha

Maybe even better, sometimes I feel annoyed sweating to upkeep high WU and 6 stacks so that I can actually 1shot a pox hound, whilst never truly oneshotting a mauler

I need to try full fire build

[steel flame]

I mean I get why some people prefer warp batter (cough pygex cough) but for the most part I focus on locking everything down with stagger and knockdown while burning it all to death at the same time. And rarely have bb out unless I'm fishing for a sniper/bomber or need to confirm a kill so the constant fire is much more useful rather than just 2 more warp charges. I guess there is a case for flayer since well....it's flayer but fire go brrr and I generate more than enough stacks

[kind jay]

i can see the warp

[steel flame]

What does it smell like sibling

[kind jay]

purple

and...

pepperoni dog farts

[steel flame]

Truly a glorious sound

[burnt maple]

Voidstrike is my favorite staff. They're all good, though, pick whichever one you like. They all fit a playstyle

[meager plinth]

surge being the one the most mis-used

[kind jay]

we need to shittalk it more or it'll never get buffed

i want a buffed surge for derpys bday

[burnt maple]

Hopefully we get a new staff soon. A direct damage laser would be cool

[burnt maple]

A corpse explosion staff would also be cool

[meager plinth]

Pyrocast could be fun

[stuck finch]

We are missing the beam and bolt staff if we want to copy and paste from Vermintide

[harsh urchin]

eh

voidstrike is basically bolt except worse

[steel flame]

and the conflag

[stuck finch]

Isn't that the Trauma staff?

[steel flame]

nah

[restive slate]

Trauma Soulblaze is Conflag with extra steps haha

[steel flame]

conflag left lasting fire on the ground

and aoe damage in the circle too

[stuck finch]

Ah okay

[steel flame]

oh no sorry youre right

conflag is trauma

we are missing corustation

thats the one that leaves fire aoe dot on the ground

[restive slate]

Coruscation is the firetower shotgun staff haha

[steel flame]

i would love to have a shotgun as psyker

i wish surge staff had the shotgun instead of the boring bolt

[stuck finch]

Just use voidstrike point blank lol

[faint sigil]

I miss bolt staff rapid fire lmb

The time before coruscation took over I had a lot of fun with bolt

[stuck finch]

As battlemage

Or is it Pyromancer with the DPS boost

Sienna my beloved

[faint sigil]

I played unchained, this was before the battlemage dominance

Honestly though all her classes were fun and had niches to build around

I hope darktide gets closer to that level of variety in the future

[stuck finch]

I know, I am aching for content. And new subclasses would hit the spot

Or they announce a 5th class

[faint sigil]

I have faith that the fish will get to it eventually, but it's probably gonna take a while.

[near gale]

Fish has got a ways to swim before that happens

😔

[restive slate]

We need to have escort missions where a mission briefer actually joins us on the field, even for just a final event haha

[stuck finch]

Or we see those Leman russ demolishes in action

[steel flame]

imagine making a live service game without any live additions of content

[restive slate]

Even off-screen like an artillery barrage that blows up the enemies chasing us before we leave. Like how the bile trolls were all killed at the end of event

[meager plinth]

mission ends need more spicy

rn its just

[restive slate]

More like Stay alive service game amirite? Hahaha

[meager plinth]

walk to elevator

[stuck finch]

There's that one mission where the Valkyrie fires its rocket pods at a walkway to start of your escape sequence

[meager plinth]

Hab Drayko Investigation ye

[stuck finch]

Oh, I almost never play that because auspex scans are lame

[faint sigil]

That's an absolutely fair point, they really have dropped the ball compared to other companies with the same model. Fatshark however is very consistent at performing this exact stall loop in their previous games. (Push out game with not all promised features, all but abandon game while they work on console port, once console is released, ignore that forever and push content out)

It'll take a few years but hopefully we'll get some good stuff.

[silver root]

getting kind of bored of staves. i have a good illisi what guns can i pair with it? not really sure which ones can deal with armor. im guessing shredder autopistol? or is a void staff what i should use (only staff i never used)

[near gale]

Autopistol is your best bet

[ornate hamlet]

Laspistol, shredder, agripinaa IAG, vraks 7 HH

[near gale]

Laspistol and agripinaa IAG if you have god-tier aim >.>

Well... good aim with the laspistol I would say, god-tier with the IAG

[silver root]

are there big differences between laspistol and auto other than the pew pew vs. brrrrrr?

[ornate hamlet]

Laspistol has funny crits

There's also the armor modifiers, but I don't remember them

[near gale]

laspistol is a more precise weapon, the autopistol murders things

[silver root]

cool ty both for the replies

[steel flame]

Ho boy

let me tell you waht

playing fire trauma staff with a buddy overseas

it aint it chief

[meager plinth]

whats ur staff?

[steel flame]

trying to quell cancel in the US on an EU server is an absolute nightmare

3/4 of my inputs kept getting eaten, blew myself up so many times when my Rs didnt register XP

[meager plinth]

quell cancel??

[ornate hamlet]

cancel culture ✊ 😔

[steel flame]

this is quell canceling: https://streamable.com/lf57j7

now imagine trying to do that with latency

[meager plinth]

you have to do that for trauma-blaze???

[steel flame]

yep

thats what i do

gotta keep that peril up for max crit rate

[meager plinth]

fuckin hell

[steel flame]

so youre canceling the end of the cast animation with quell, you can do it faster when your not at max peril but you slow it down a bit to ping pong between 90 and 100

[meager plinth]

and the benefit of that is... faster explosions for better application rate?

[steel flame]

you are casting much much faster

youre complelty skipping the end of the cast animation into a new cast

when you dont have to actually quell in between like im doing there you can cast insanly fast

[ornate hamlet]

I take it that needs quell speed to quell 10 peril with a tap

[steel flame]

what you see is 64% quell speed

[ornate hamlet]

sus

[meager plinth]

how does it perform against various enemy types?

[steel flame]

fire trauma or fast casting like that

[meager plinth]

both, im curious

[steel flame]

this is how fast i can do it without needing to quell: https://streamable.com/3a01j1

its really difficult to keep consistent

actually easier to ping pong it at 90-100

[steel flame]

well quell canceling is just a straight dps increase

[meager plinth]

trauma has dogshit damage falloff on the aoe so im curious on how that applies against enemies

[steel flame]

as for fire trauma. youll be wanting to mainly be spamming low charge, because of the way blazing works on trauma it sets the entire stagger AOE fire not just the damage AOE so fast charges have the same fire range as full charges

its capped at applying 6 stacks of SB with Blazing spirit 3 (Blazing spirit 4 doesnt exist on staves because fatshark hates fun) and you can get those stacks goin pretty fast with quell cancel spamming low charges, then you can transition into half and full charges for confirming kills and continuing to keep that fire going, one hordes one you get 6 goin on the whole thing at a distance you can pop a 4 stack AB to decimate the horde before they ever reach you.

need more fire? do some more low charges then go back to mulching, the fire has a great effect of chipping the enemies down into kill range for the trauma it self and it contintues the vicious cycle as wilfire keeps everything going.

[meager plinth]

if its not too much of me asking, id be interested to see how it plays out throughout a mission ^^

[restive slate]

I have tasted the Fire Trauma build, and I can never go back

[steel flame]

as for elites and stuff, well its still a trauma staff so it mulches shotguns and gunners, and as for ogryns, maulers and ragers you dont even really need to kill those with the trauma since youll be keepin them with their asses on the floor with trauma while the team kills them or you just whip your melee out the beat them defensless on the floor

[meager plinth]

if I ever get good rng ill make one

[steel flame]

do it

its very sweaty and extremely fun

[steel flame]

im a bit tired to play decently at all tonight but ill try to record a mission tomarrow if i can

[meager plinth]

tyy

always looking for more ways to play, rn Im absolutly enjoying chainsword-trauma

[steel flame]

i use the combat knife with fire trauma myself, ive got this one here with lacerate and its super fun getting most boss damage just cause i kept 16 stacks of bleed going the whole time. its also fun for ogryns when you knock them down to put a bunch of bleed on them and watch them just melt as they stand back up

also the mobilty with knife is just insane, i can play super aggressive with trauma staff and zoom out of the way and back around corners with the knife heavy dash when stuff gets dicy

[meager plinth]

how do you deal with muties?

knife'em?

[steel flame]

bleed them them headshot spam them

thats probably the only thing this build cant really kill fast since i cant juggle mutants

you can always just run diemos to oneshot mutants, but im just too addicted to the speed so i just live with needing to flail on mutants a bit

[meager plinth]

maybe a good MkV dueling sword too

it has better dodges

by like 4%

[steel flame]

lol

and you lose the heavy knife dash

and the bleed

and the stupid safe push attacks

and the damage

i knife with kinetic deflection on my autopistol build and it might as well be a brick wall with how little peril it generates on block

[meager plinth]

otherwise, Cadia MkIV Assault Chainsword with bloodletter

that one will demolish muties

[steel flame]

i havent found a decent chainsword yet

when ill do ill experiemnt with it too

[meager plinth]

trauma works exceptionally well with it since you can single out an enemy with the explosion stagger

the animation lock is less an issue since everything is on the floor

[steel flame]

i bet

[meager plinth]

or ig just deimos's special/h2

[steel flame]

?

[cosmic sigil]

Do you still run warp unleashed for the 10% at 0 peril?

[steel flame]

nah i run wrack and ruin

oh btw you can do this to a nurgle beast with bleed knife and pinning autopistol: https://streamable.com/v0l4oi

not as fast as a thunder hammer of course but beggers cant be choosers

[meager plinth]

I mean thats mostly Pinning fire being absolutly busted more than anything

[steel flame]

the bleed dot gets super charged by the blaze away and pinning fire

[meager plinth]

bleed did maybe, 10% of your damage?

about 267 damage per tick I think

[steel flame]

with 16 stacks of bleed it takes less than 3 magazines, with no bleed it takes 5 magazines

[meager plinth]

and you could do even higher with 6 warp charges and WU

and laceration

[steel flame]

i actually do have laceration but yess

with warp stacks you can do even more

honesly that extra 10% from WU is kinda overkill on the auto pistol while wrack and ruin lets me deal with mixed hordes without need to shoot at all

but i can also trigger it with flayer on elites in hords with the autopistol and melt stuff that way too

you can get a good 12-16 stacks goin with KB on a horde if there is an ogryn or two standing in it and it just dies

[meager plinth]

yea it increases the value of BB by so damn much its great

[steel flame]

lots of people just write it off sadly

[harsh urchin]

i wouldn't recommend you copy zazy lol

knife is pretty hard to use

as is the meme staff I assume

[ornate hamlet]

be game
have buff that gives power on stagger
get stacks on a slug the size on an apartment

[restive slate]

You ever staggered an apartment?

[ornate hamlet]

Never managed to, and I did try

[restive slate]

Try making it bleed first

[delicate walrus]

and it rolled t4 brutal momentum and 25 carapace

does headtaker apply to psyker ranged attacks? that worth running over decimator?

[cosmic sigil]

No

[delicate walrus]

so roll specialist to flak and throw decimator on?

[cosmic sigil]

And hmmm. You lose power on pushes if you go the Decimator way

[keen vale]

lmao I equipped three curious that each give +1 wound 😂

[steel flame]

dont be jelly, though i admit both the staff and the knive can be hard to use

But that's why they are fun

[silent coral]

this is the highest rated weapon i have on my account, unfortunately this weapons M2 is one of the worst in the entire game imho

[steel flame]

?????

!?!?!?!?!?

This man be throwing shade at my baby

[spice veldt]

why's it the worst :(

[silent coral]

the aiming of the weapon just feels awful no indicator if my circle on under the enemies infront of me or if aiming for enemies in elevated postions while me and the circle gets stuck or stopped by every little box or fence

The ease of use is awful comapred to all other staff m2s

[spice veldt]

oh the aiming yeah it's pretty finicky

but it's certainly not the worst performance-wise

[silent coral]

yes it is not an issue of the power it is the finicky aiming that furstrates me to no end

[lunar hollow]

i love aiming with the trauma

[steel flame]

It's weird at first, but you get used to it. You don't even have to think about it after too long

[ornate hamlet]

Trauma is one of the safest staves to have tbh

But I don't use it specifically because of that shit-ass aiming

[steel flame]

Pretty soon you dont even need to see the circle to know where it is

[ornate hamlet]

Much as the game has pretty skies, I don't like looking at them for extended periods of time

[lunar hollow]

i enjoy weapons that involve something besides pointing at enemies and clicking

[spice veldt]

i rationalize it as the aiming system balancing out the power of the trauma's m2

[lunar hollow]

trauma staff requires you to point your neck at odd angles which is pretty funny and also not just aiming at stuff and mashing buttons

[ornate hamlet]

One could argue that the balance becomes moot once the player gets used to the system

And that it's more of an initial inconvenience that loses its point afterwards

[steel flame]

I think it would lose much of its flexibility if it aimed at the reticle

You wouldnt be able to bypass cover or walls like you can now

[spice veldt]

yeah once you learn to just use the edge of the aiming system to aim, it's not that bad to use

https://streamable.com/l4ihw5

i find myself meleeing most times when the trauma gets annoying to aim anyways

(aka grate stairs)

[steel flame]

Speaking of trauma I've got the quell cancel down pat almost, especially at 90-100 https://streamable.com/lf57j7

It's actually a lot easier than doing it without needing to quell between

I've almost got that down too but the rhythm is a bit funkier and the game eats the inputs sometimes https://streamable.com/3a01j1

[ornate hamlet]

Depending on the location, it could be fixed by just making the circle slide down the wall when you aim at it

It would make hitting stairs that aren't walled on some side impossible, however

[steel flame]

Would it though

The stairs it has trouble with are the ones that aren't solid. It would still be able to go through the stair cracks if it followed the reticle

[spice veldt]

the notable part of the aiming system is that it only lands on terrain and never on enemies, which can be both a blessing and a curse

[steel flame]

Truth

[spice veldt]

I kinda like it the way it currently is, even if it's terrible for new players

[steel flame]

It needs to be later in the level list though

[spice veldt]

yeah absolutely

why is that shit the first fucking staff you unlock

worst early stats and ease of use

[steel flame]

Giving trauma to them first was a complete mistake

Needs to be purge

Give them trauma at 22 or something

[spice veldt]

yeah void/purg would be my choices for the 1st staff

[steel flame]

I'd say void as the default

[vivid mural]

So yesterday I was spectating my team after dying horribly and the other psyker in the team had really neat finger tattoos that looked like runes. I went to Krall to see if they had been added as a body tattoo, and they weren’t there. Are they part of dlc or an outfit or something?

[steel flame]

Dunno. Maybe. Haven't s clue sibling, probably the armor

[vivid mural]

Dang

[ornate hamlet]

I caused a veteran to quit the match with a shredder psyker

Not my fault he was trying to headshot carapace with an MG12

[tight saddle]

kinda want to put crit chance on this staff I just made for the meme

[plucky flax]

I want a good blazing spirit trauma maaaan

Rng ducks

[cosmic sigil]

How so?

[ornate hamlet]

I dunno, I guess I was just too good

He just left after a certain point, I waited a bit to see if it was not a DC so he didn't reconnect into a match and play by himself, but nah

[young ridge]

Lock trauma until they complete an IQ test

[vivid mural]

I love the Deimos force sword mechanically but I hate how it looks

[ornate hamlet]

penis sword

[cosmic sigil]

Put a skin on it.

[vocal relic]

Its the Sienna flame tattoo from the Devoted Rejects pack. Will be the IX one once you unlock it.

[thick carbon]

We need more eye colors for the Psykers. I wanna have glowing green or glowing purple eyes :3

[thorn tapir]

i like my glowing blue eyes 🙂

can someone explain what this means?

ive swapped to 5 different weapons its still there lol

[sonic geyser]

I am now part of the psyker club

[young ridge]

Are you using mods?

[thorn tapir]

nope

[young ridge]

I have never seen this before

[thorn tapir]

me neither xD

[young ridge]

Is it on all weapons or just this one?

I googled it and someone said its because its in a loadout and has been changed or something like that

[meager plinth]

Yep, you no longer have the item from that loadout

[near wyvern]

I believe this ends the "unstable power or slaughterer on Deimos" debate. Always unstable with Deimos and then pair it with Slaughterer/Deflector.

[cyan portal]

Lol i thought of that convo when I read that.

Amounts to a pretty significant nerf to purgatus though which I'm sad about

[near wyvern]

Nah, it's mostly a nerf to the couple daring ones who used wildfire with Slaughterer. So it's mostly a big nerf to a playstyle that was already sub par

With Purgatus you should keep your staff out because you have so much control over the enemies while dealing damage, not to talk about the infinite cleave withing your range.

[cyan portal]

I'd argue that boosting your dot dmg with 75% power while melee was out was the stronger playstyle. Once everything in range has dots switching to melee to delete actual threats worked really well. You could always swap to staff and interrupt with primary fire then switch back without losing slaughterer stacks anyway. But yeah, I'm probably in a very small pool of players that will notice this difference.

[fluid knot]

I would say Purge personally, because it is by far the most user friendly

Void actually requires you to have a brain, Purge does not, despite it having a high skill ceiling, its certainly the easiest one to just pick up an go with

[meager plinth]

Purg also has the best damage in early game because it comes from the soulblaze not the staff itself

[spice veldt]

my rationale for void as the first is because its stat scaling is fairly minimal compared to the other staffs, and it is weaker than them

[cosmic sigil]

i do find harder to manage peril on the surge than the purgatus

i go high in peril very very fast

[meager plinth]

Surge is the most dangerous for blowing up

[cosmic sigil]

ok, so that's normal

[lunar hollow]

random discovery but i learned that with 5 slaughterer stacks if u crit headshot a rager you can 1 shot it with an illisi heavy

without a charge

[spice veldt]

bloodthirsty slaughter obscurus

never forgetti

[cosmic sigil]

i need to spend time in the psyk

[wheat quartz]

I wonder how this'll affect burning trauma meme

Probably not much

[near wyvern]

My fire trauma (which is not a meme) will have 0 difference, since I didn't even use Slaughterer on it before the nerf.

[cosmic sigil]

anyone crashing in the psyk?

[cosmic sigil]

[cyan notch]

slaughterer deflector ez

my mutant kills were never contingent on random fire keeping slaughterer up

[wheat quartz]

I'm currently using it with an Illisi

Just tried, didn't feel any difference at all

Neat

[ornate hamlet]

ayo we got patched, let's check this shit

bro

did they just leave slaughterer the same

adonbilivit 💀

also they did that shit I constantly talk about on revolver

no mag size changes, no reload changes, no blessing tweaks, no changing the fucking shooter arm multipliers that ruin one-shots in the first place

Fatshark could benefit from playing the game every now and then

I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt here and say I'm overestimating the limb multipliers

If I can one-shot the shooters anywhere now, I'll be somewhat content

[silver quest]

what does warp nexus do? It says "gain x%" gain what ? Damage ?

[ornate hamlet]

Crit chance

[fluid knot]

Critical chance

Dammnit, ninja'd

[silver quest]

Oh good lol

Thanks

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/820152977422942259/1123366484765319279/image.png
Just need to grind for the tier 4 Warp Flurry

[ornate hamlet]

Don't know why I expected anything but disappointment

By the way, you can headshot a flamer and hitting the arm will screw the two-shot breakpoint

At least dogs take one less shot on the body

[fluid knot]

Why aim at the arms tho?

Even if weakspot multipliers arent great on a weapon its a good habit to aim for em anyway

[ornate hamlet]

Bodyshots

Sometimes the arm gets in the way

The flamer thing was just the animation putting the arms where I was aiming when firing the next shot

Because apparently they want the player to account for some random stagger animation or some bullshit

Also at 80% damage I still cannot one-hit a scab gunner without unarmored

[safe crystal]

Can you oneshot a sniper from any range without UA?

[fluid knot]

Ah thats the same issue with Falter innit

[ornate hamlet]

Nope

I have 20% unarmored now and there's a point in which I miss 5 damage

[safe crystal]

[ornate hamlet]

Lemme see if it wasn't my warp charges dropping

Well, with charges and unarmored I can go to the other side of the psykhanium and one-hit him

Crits are getting mad wonky tho

My new goal is unarmored, maniac, speedloader and maybe crucian or surgical

[fluid knot]

Surgical stacks mad fast in ADS now, though think that was changed last patch/one before

[ornate hamlet]

well

[fluid knot]

Eyy

[ornate hamlet]

Crit chance and specialists

[fluid knot]

Oh so not even atrocious

Crit chance + crit blessings is net profit in most cases

[ornate hamlet]

Might just swap specialists to unarmored and go full-force on the crits

[fluid knot]

Ye that'd be the move

[ornate hamlet]

Granted now the only thing that needs handcannon's rending is carapace

[fluid knot]

The carapace issue can be solved by other means though so its not a must

[inland sand]

definitely do not run Hand Cannon

it is bad

[fluid knot]

I would on Zealot just to soften them up, not on Psyker tho

[inland sand]

Zealot can just F though

and ignore armour

[fluid knot]

Ult isnt always up tho

an even then, in best case scenario that lets you kill two in short order, which isnt that ideal if they spawn a 6 stack

[inland sand]

few things why i think it's borderline useless:

• crits on weakspot ignore some amount of armour anyway
• crits not reliable, and hand cannon takes up a blessing slot to make them more reliable
• F, which has 2 charges assuming ur not running one of the 2 bad 30 feats

that having been said

the revolver blessings range from bad to useless

so I guess just run what u want and have fun

[thorn tapir]

That's this whole game mate

[inland sand]

u r not wrong

outside of pinning fire/BM/Slaughterer/some other thing i've probs forgotten

oh, deflector

[thorn tapir]

I use blazing spirit illisi for last 30 hours because I like turning the zombies blue

[inland sand]

good enough reason as any

[thorn tapir]

It is kind of neat that you can get 5 stacks of shred on one heavy attack into the horde, which will multi crit on the next swing. Lots of blue.

[cosmic sigil]

i cannot one bodyshot a sniper with a 79 dmg bolter

i should try with 80

but you need sniper feat or vf or one stack of pinning or UA

or specialist

[safe crystal]

Bolter cant bodyshot snipers without buffs, but its still a one hit headshot, and they stand still a lot, and arent the fastest sprinters so its easy to hit

Pre-patch revolver couldnt oneshot headshot a sniper without UA or some other buff, so i was wondering if it was possible to do it now

[cosmic sigil]

yeah but headshoting from a mile away,,,,

[thorn tapir]

i just headpop snipers because I can just wiggle my screen left and right in their general direction trying to tag them

[safe crystal]

I do that too, but sometimes lag decides i target something else instead of what i hovered over first

Case and point, i moved my cursor over the trapper onto the dog here, but it let go of the trapper and got the dog (theres a brief BB flash on the trapper)

[fallow dawn]

wow

[cyan notch]

did they change it back with this patch?

[steel flame]

Fuck no

They didnt

Did they really just fuckin nerf shield?!

Wtf fatshark

[steel flame]

That's a straight fuckin nerf man

[thorn tapir]

DID THEY NERF HEAD POPS

WTF

im not one shotting dred gunners anymore

Oh im playing the new modifier.

[meager plinth]

[silver quest]

This just happened today?

They buffed Blaze Away

[ornate hamlet]

Isn't that a straight buff?

[steel flame]

not for hi peril builds it not

[silver quest]

They didn't directly "nerf" head pops, they buffed elites ?

That's what I get from reading it update notes

[thorn tapir]

Its a new modifier

Buffed elites

[rare furnace]

So recon lasgun the most fun gun in game got buffed

[steel flame]

nah its a nerf for high magazine guns like autopistol......maybe

[rare furnace]

I’ll do my head gun explosion the chances of headpop is like the flamer

[thorn tapir]

give columnus V blaze away pls

[steel flame]

you could have full blaze away stacks before the mag was even half empty

now you cant

[thorn tapir]

cavalcade might be better iirc it edged out blaze away when you did a full mag dump barely

[silver quest]

Was gonna say I use plasma so to me that's a buff? Because it used to stack 5 times, and reloading would (obviously) ruin it.

[lyric burrow]

Is revolver/recon usable now

[silver quest]

But you tear through your magazine so fast any way lol

[silver quest]

They buffed recon lasgun 💀

[silver quest]

Holy hell lol

[thorn tapir]

all even numbers

so satisfying

[fallow dawn]

379 bdw

[thorn tapir]

warp resistance is really 59.45%

xD

[steel flame]

rip

no blazing spirit 4 on staves

worst update ever

[silver quest]

so uh

We had a game where we got 750ish plasteel in one match

~~ is that the new normal~~

[thorn tapir]

I was already getting that every match?

[cosmic sigil]

that makes AB kinda dangerous lol

[thorn tapir]

they buffed it a couple of patches ago if you havent played for awhile

plasteel income

[grizzled iris]

Max Plasteel in Damnation is 805

[steel flame]

i didnt see any patch notes about that change though.....did they just fuck up the description?!?

[cosmic sigil]

how so? because i used to gain a stack of BA every 5 bullets with 50ish mag

[cosmic sigil]

could it be an old description?

[steel flame]

maybe??

they keep doing this and i dont understand

HOW DO THEY KEEP DOING THIS

[cosmic sigil]

i just tried this on my zealot and it's kinda cool tbh

it's another source to gain toughness

[steel flame]

FIX YOUR DAMN DESCRIPTIONS FATSHARK and STOP UNFIXING THE ONES YOU FIX

[cosmic sigil]

i could use that on the vet for those time where you are not in coherency and with no elites to kill

[steel flame]

ill probably swap it on my psyker too

if i cant get blaze away to really add much damage while bursting toughness may end up being better

we shall see

[silver quest]

^

[steel flame]

im gonna go test kinitic shield now that its updated to make sure

[silver quest]

I was already using Kinetic Shield so what changes ?

Oh it was based on peril before ?

[lyric burrow]

Pretty sure

[silver quest]

Warp charges are pretty easy to keep

[silver quest]

My favorite resource for darktide isn't updated yet lol

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/classes/psyker-psykinetic

[steel flame]

awesome

[olive ember]

Why are you using games lantern dear god

[steel flame]

psykanium is a CTD

[silver quest]

Old blessings are still listed too...

[silver quest]

It elaborates on stats when you blokes aren't helpful lol

[steel flame]

of course they are

[olive ember]

Eh as long as you aren’t using the fucking

Games lantern builds

Then all is fine

[cosmic sigil]

tbh, blaze is fine but it's really pinning that does a lot of the work

there's situation where stacking ba is useful, like on a charging mutie or reaper

[silver quest]

Oh God no lol

[cosmic sigil]

but kinetic flayer proces kinda easily

[steel flame]

fear not, they just fucked up the description.......again, its still based on peril, thank god

kinitic shield lives to see another day

[olive ember]

How did they fuck the description of ks

[steel flame]

it says warp charge not peril

which is the old description back when it sucked ass

[olive ember]

Lmao

What the fuck

[steel flame]

i dont understand how this shit slips through EVERY SINGLE PATCH, does nobody actually check the versions when they make updates? like at all?

all these poor new players cant even figure out how half the mechanics even work when nearly every description is just straight lying to you

[safe crystal]

Are we still gaining?

[steel flame]

no

they actually fixed that one

sigh

its like 2 steps forwards and 1 3/4 steps back

[olive ember]

Paying bug tester complains about bug testing game for them

Don’t you know the games in EA I can’t believe it

[steel flame]

lol

[ornate hamlet]

But isn't it better with warp charges, which the psyker can maintain consistently high without micromanaging?

[dire coral]

So did they buff the health of elites or nerf bb?

[olive ember]

You playing elite resistance mission modifier?

[safe crystal]

Neither, its the new modifier that makes everything tankier and deal more damage

[cosmic sigil]

you sure?

[dire coral]

ahh ic, nice nice

[steel flame]

wait no

fuck

[safe crystal]

New modifier is neato, but didnt feel too different from a regular damnation game, so

Back to playing other games

[steel flame]

it is based on warp charges now

wtf

[safe crystal]

[steep bridge]

Recommendations on what to reroll?

[olive ember]

Apparently new modifier makes things hit hard

Stagger resistance etc.

[spice veldt]

top 10 undocumented changes

[safe crystal]

Our ogryn certainly felt that

[olive ember]

Things hit hard, higher stagger resistances maybe, etc etc

[lyric burrow]

Channeling to nexus prob

[olive ember]

Idk I gotta try it out but I’m at work feelsbad

[thorn tapir]

I took one hit from a regular zombie at 0 toughness it did like 70 damage. Definitely is making other things hit harder

[olive ember]

Channeling to nexus

[lyric burrow]

Ah lol

Idk if ill like the new modifier i kind of like beefier enemy numbers

Should be fun tho

[dire coral]

it feels like a normal damn, like was said.

thou the hi's could be fun

[lyric burrow]

Yeah im curious how thatll be

So im guessing the elites arent that crazy then

If it just feels like damn

[safe crystal]

About the same amount of elites, they just have way more health

BB cant onehit anything

Other than shotgunners IF you have stacks and use WU

[lyric burrow]

F

6 im guessing

[safe crystal]

I think i got oneshots around 3 WC and 40% peril start on BB

[lyric burrow]

Ok thats not terrible

[safe crystal]

Didnt get any footage, it was a very uneventful match, so take that with a grain of salt

[dire coral]

they kinda trolled ogryns abit with the new modifier because the lot of them are coming in with mace and board making the same dmg they did befor the buff

[lyric burrow]

Ill still try it i was just curious how different it would be

[cyan notch]

shield?

[dire coral]

yh

[lyric burrow]

Also is kinetic shield just bad now

Is that what im hearing

[dire coral]

how so

[safe crystal]

The general feel is the same as regular damnation, but you'll take more damage from mistakes

[lyric burrow]

Based on warp charges and not peril

[dire coral]

i'm still using it, i haven't felt anything yet, but damn

[steel flame]

im pretty sure its just a fucked up description

[lyric burrow]

Ok good

I liked that feat

[steel flame]

i cant test for sure without creature spawner

[safe crystal]

Hm

Give me a second, i'll test it for you

[steel flame]

but im about 90% sure they just rolled the description back by accident since they made no note about that

[lyric burrow]

Hopefully

[steel flame]

fingers crossed

[dire coral]

yh cause that would suck ass, just holding stacks.

forever

[lyric burrow]

Do you not have it or do they need to update it for the patch

[steel flame]

its crashing to desktop in psykanium rn with creature spawner installed

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, I can see the frustration for people who use AB or that one guy with quicken, but

for kinetic barrage it's a straight upgrade

[lyric burrow]

Ok ill have to make sure to uninstall spawner for now

[steel flame]

it used to be like that and it sucked

[safe crystal]

Oh yeah, no testing

Welp, doesnt affect me, im a KD stan

[steel flame]

lol

[ornate hamlet]

I can't think of why it would suck with charges, considering they're more consistent than peril

[steel flame]

if your using a high peril build that doesn't farm warp charges then it would be a dead feat,

if it was changed back to the way it was

which i dont think it was

[dire coral]

Just a quick question, is crit perk still bis on surge or is it just the good ol maniac/flak?

[lyric burrow]

Think its still good although i run flak

[dire coral]

yh i wanted to test cara/flak

since surge do decent dmg to crushers

[safe crystal]

If only surge had any crit synergy blessings

But alas, that would be too fun

We cant have that now can we

[dire coral]

Absolutely not

[lyric burrow]

Give me blazing please

[steel flame]

i want surge on surge staff.....

immeasurably complex

[thorn tapir]

You can barely tell the new modifier is on other than bb not killing dreg gunners in one hit.

Its literally just don't bb the mode xD

[fluid knot]

Yeah nah.. its weaker, but its is FOR sure helpful, just carried a run because i didnt have to eat loads of fire to kill things

BB is stil fuckin goated

[thorn tapir]

Honestly got more value out of the +25% damage on bb modifier.

[olive ember]

BB is a utility like all the grenades are but yeah its pretty pog

it also gives psyker an anti armor option not matter the build. Even something like claw + recon lasgun

I just wish it one shot fucking dogs >.>

[velvet stratus]

Why does Mk v blaze and the chainsword feel like the only good melee weapons?

Those and the combat axes

[wet belfry]

Ever tried the deimos?

[olive ember]

I mean psykers just have basic melee weapons + dueling sword and force sowrds so yeah

all teh force swords are good, and then we have the caxes

everything else is meh

[velvet stratus]

I did but it just doesn't feel good to use

[wet belfry]

Good weapon and feel good to use arent the same.

[velvet stratus]

The mkV is better at hoards and the mkII is better at single target damage. So what are you bringing it for?

[olive ember]

you talking about the axes?

[safe crystal]

Can any gunpsyker with an autopistol check if you can still increase DoT damage with pinning fire, now that they removed slaughterer being able to do it?

[velvet stratus]

I mixed up the mk my mistake

[near wyvern]

That sprint damage doesn't seem to be the case

[velvet stratus]

I was talking about force swords but I mixed up the mk

[wet belfry]

Well deimos can reach over 2000 dps against something liek a reaper.

Its a single target monster.

[spice veldt]

reaper is surprisingly not the best example to compare the deimos and obscurus since it has flak

[silver quest]

Rip

Just the ones that applied to me*

[spice veldt]

you can smack his flak chest if you just aim to the left with an obscurus light (or aim down with an obscurus heavy)

[silver quest]

I've never used sprint

[near wyvern]

The monkeys got confused again since peril is called warp charge in code (and warp charges are called souls)

[steel flame]

Sigh

[silver quest]

Have you played today? Someone said that brain burst got nerfed after the patch today

[velvet stratus]

Shouldn't you be using bb against that? Also isn't the veteran on your team going to delete that before you get into melee?

[silver quest]

Technically elites got buffed but idk if that affected our brain burst

[spice veldt]

BB doesn't have the best DPS

if you can get into the range of a reaper, the deimos will absolutely beat it

[silver quest]

Eh it's nice for the range

[spice veldt]

yeah it's a nice utility weapon

but if I can whack a reaper, i'm gonna whack it

[near wyvern]

This was on the previous patch (but even then all who datamined the code or linked to it stated psykers take 1.25 damage when sprinting)

https://youtu.be/zcINF72qAdY?t=41

[near wyvern]

No I haven't played the new patch yet

[silver quest]

I do love it for the lols tho

[silver quest]

Yeah me either...

[near wyvern]

Year 2009

[fluid knot]

Knife is pretty good for mobility, but it dont offer much int way of offence, still rate it on psyker tho

[near wyvern]

Like overall or just the new modifier?

[fluid knot]

Everything was buffed in new mode

From groaners to Oggies

[silver quest]

New patch just said elites are stronger, but less frequent?

[lethal folio]

New mode is for wrack n ruin.

[olive ember]

knife is aight but unless you are sprint heavying across the map the deimos dodge distance will be more than enough and actually be good

[silver quest]

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