psyker-class

[spice veldt]

u dum dum

[lunar hollow]

idk

[spice veldt]

little wittle dum dum

[lunar hollow]

i fuck with keybinds a lot

but then i leave stuff like that

cuz y'know doesn't seem like it matters

cuz im not thinkin about it

and then it does matter and now im reaping the consequences my negligence sowed

[lunar hollow]

😦

[spice veldt]

f

i always change keybinds before playing a game

that's what I did before playing dark tide and searching what keybinds people used

[lunar hollow]

i'll put jump on v

[olive ember]

I've regressed so fucking far I'm playing world of tanks again

[lunar hollow]

and then forgot its not there

and probably ledge myself

[spice veldt]

a new low

[lunar hollow]

trying to jump

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[lunar hollow]

bro i just opened mod options instead of regular options twice in a row

im so used to fucking clicking that button

aaaa

[spice veldt]

I could never

[lunar hollow]

shut up arco

u only get to make fun of me when u can lift a laptop that isn't specifically designed for ur delicate needs

[spice veldt]

whatever tsundere femboy

[lunar hollow]

dont call me that

[spice veldt]

tsu tsu

[lunar hollow]

aeg;kdhfsdfg;kjnhtedr;p

fuck u

[feral verge]

Hmm

Think this arco guy should maybe be banned

[spice veldt]

hmm

I think you should get a force sword with both t4 unstable and t4 slaughterer on it

[lunar hollow]

i hate grinding force swords

so many shit blessings

[spice veldt]

same

[feral verge]

[spice veldt]

I only got t4 slaughterer like 500+ hours in after the illisi dropped

though the crafting was absurdly ass in the beginning

[feral verge]

Took me like a month and a half and 50k plasteel to get unstable power 4

[lunar hollow]

oh i got t4 slaughterer before illisi dropped lol

i just need one with t4 unstable locked in

i had to cannibalize my obscurus for it

[feral verge]

That's almost sexual

The first target hurts to see but

[lunar hollow]

i did the brain math

its not really that bad

like until the stat scaling lets us go up to 100% im not really missing out on any major BPs to my knowledge

[spice veldt]

the first target also doesn't scale the damage of the illisi's damage at all currently as well

[lunar hollow]

that is also true i remember u talking about that

i just gotta get t4 unstable for the swag points

[spice veldt]

very true

[lunar hollow]

i had 20% maniac and 25% unarmored

not sure if unarmored ever did anything cuz i didnt notice a dif when i swapped

[spice veldt]

one-shotting groaners more easily i guess

[lunar hollow]

but like

thats the easiest enemy to 1 shot

not really noticing a big difference on those groaner kills

[spice veldt]

yeah you can do that with unstable power anyways

[lunar hollow]

so true

i like the mortis operative skin for the force sword

it feels edgy in a way that suits the loner

he seems like the type of guy who would paint his sword black

[spice veldt]

i like a black coat on weapons as well

[lunar hollow]

i wish more of the mortis operative skins did the thammer treatment

[spice veldt]

though there are some things that bug me, like the obscurus' mortis skin having the model being shifted upwards

[lunar hollow]

where it looks like a completely separate weapon

[spice veldt]

so the grip looks even more flimsy than usual

[lunar hollow]

i also have this

[cosmic sigil]

I think I'm 1M ordos in

[lunar hollow]

i built a lot of deimos trying to get 1 that was semi ok

[cosmic sigil]

To get the low warp resist unstable slaughterer 4

[spice veldt]

as much as I dunk on mankar for it, I don't have a force sword with +maniac +flak +t4 unstable/slaught

[cosmic sigil]

Lowest with that is 59

[spice veldt]

this is my best

[feral verge]

...lol ...

[spice veldt]

i've dumped so much fucking money into illisis

and got nothing for it

[lunar hollow]

i wish the dick sword skin had a version for illisi

that didnt also make it a dick sword

[spice veldt]

go watch paint dry why don't you

[lunar hollow]

i like the thin blade over the weird penis shape

[spice veldt]

I don't like the illisi's large handguard

[white sky]

Dick sword has grown on me ngl

I didn't originally like it

[feral verge]

....lol.... Lmao even.... Lmfao perhaps

[spice veldt]

at least with this red deimos skin, the techy part of it looks like it's part of the blade and it's not that bulky

[white sky]

I just don't like having paint on my sword tbh

[lunar hollow]

if i had my way the dueling swords would just be better

[spice veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shaking-head-gif-21797829

lmlmsaonfiusahgbhoisbhgbhisabiogbiii

[lunar hollow]

so i could use those instead of the force swords

cuz the dueling swords are considerably more flamboyant and i built my psyker to be a femboy

[cosmic sigil]

My exorcist blades are better and lower warp res :/

[spice veldt]

I wish I could slap the obscurus skin/model onto my illisi

[spice veldt]

josho "not-a-femboy" right here ladies and gentlemen

[white sky]

I do kinda wish they'd just put basic weapons skins in the shop tbh

[lunar hollow]

😦

[white sky]

Like why can't my deimos just look like an illisi

[lunar hollow]

arco have u ever played a female character in a game

[white sky]

No paint on it

[lunar hollow]

(the question is unrelated i just need to distract you while i ship you a pipe bomb)

[spice veldt]

🤔

and yes i have

[feral verge]

@viral solstice @azure oar

[lunar hollow]

i feel considerably more deranged having attempt to drink fry sauce straight from the bottle

im a real psyker now

[white sky]

Fry sauce

[lunar hollow]

fry sauce

[white sky]

Ketchup?

[spice veldt]

what even is this

[feral verge]

I used to be a driver for UPS. I may be able to help you ship this pipe bomb to arco

[spice veldt]

what the hell

[feral verge]

Don't tell him

[spice veldt]

what have I done huh

[lunar hollow]

im not serious arco is cool 😦

[azure oar]

budgett frog

[white sky]

What is? What does it taste like?

[azure oar]

https://tenor.com/view/dabfrogforclara-dab-frog-triggered-gif-10754286

[feral verge]

Arco is a threat to all nations

[lunar hollow]

its very similar to thousand island

[spice veldt]

has my person not been a city atop the hill for all to admire and follow

for what reason am i to be treated this way

[white sky]

I'm a sucker for a good Chipotle mayo ngl

[lunar hollow]

i mean i can think of a couple reasons to mistreat u

just not uh

like that

[feral verge]

Extremely insensitive, hurtful fighting words

[spice veldt]

damn

i'm so sleepy

[feral verge]

But an echo of the original sin

[spice veldt]

i tried to join josho's strike team thinking that I would enter his mourningstar session

[feral verge]

When you first made fun of me not being able to get unstable 4

[lunar hollow]

wha

[spice veldt]

so I could sniff greet him

[lunar hollow]

bro is down bad

[feral verge]

He's sick

[lunar hollow]

not like that u h0rny bastard i meant NOT FUCKING KILLING YOU

graws[ojfjknhgf'

plohdszft;khj h

[spice veldt]

what's wrong with me having dreams and aspirations huh

[cosmic sigil]

I had half of the tier4 blessing in the first week after hitting 30.

Now it's riposte 3

[lunar hollow]

nothing but u gotta work harder than that to make em come true

[spice veldt]

such is life

[cosmic sigil]

Again and again

[spice veldt]

that's true; I should harass you even harder

[cosmic sigil]

Tbh. I have a pretty sweet riposte 4 blade.

[lunar hollow]

piece of shit game

i just wanna play psyker and all the conditions r bad

[feral verge]

Least consignment yard is a good map

[spice veldt]

oo assassination time to grind for the frame

skate fazz and eat azz

[lunar hollow]

consignment yard is sooo good on hi int

except the beginning

because patrols from the rooms ahead get pulled into you

[spice veldt]

and they just waterfall from that fuckin railing

[lunar hollow]

and it makes the difficulty spike suddenly in that area

[lunar hollow]

its so bad

[spice veldt]

god damn maps with vertical areas

[lunar hollow]

the enemies can jump to any ledge above them

which is really kinda stupid because there's already a spawn door system for transportation

[lunar hollow]

can u tell which mission types i like the most

(its strike. cuz smelter is strike)

[white sky]

Mission type preference? Nah I just queue for whatever has hi intensity up.

[lunar hollow]

thats what ive degraded to

except dreyko

cuz hab dreyko has shit tier spawns

outside of like, the starting area

[white sky]

The more painful it is the better

[lunar hollow]

there's 2 spots where dreyko spawns don't fucking bug out

and actually spawn stuff

and that's the beginning and that vertical area with the 2 floors right before the last room

besides that the map is super easy

[white sky]

I've played this game for 500 hours and I'll be honest

I still cannot associate mission names to what the mission is most of the time

[lunar hollow]

its the one where ur in the hab block and u scan shit

and nurgle tree at the end

[white sky]

Uhhh

Tree

Yes

And hourglass has the bowl

[lunar hollow]

the only way to make dreyko hard is to like

just not do the objective for 10 mins

[white sky]

Honestly yeah Dreyko is easy

I remember when it ran like a slideshow, but that made it hard to play for other reasons

[lunar hollow]

it has the same problem as smelter's end event

but the events take up like 60-70% of the play time

and they just dont spawn much of anything

[crystal jolt]

only way it gets hard is if you get one of its two bugged daemonhost spawns. otherwise, it is very easy.

even with all that, people love walking off in the scan events and getting pinned / dying.

[crystal jolt]

mine does now since the latest patch. i don't know what it did, but some missions love chugging. that first room with the medicae is terrible for it on hab dreyko

[lunar hollow]

even then im pretty sure u can avoid at least one

by knowing the forbidden Jump™️

[crystal jolt]

you can probably avoid the one in the mid section, but the boss spawn trigger near the first medicae can put a host on top of someone and have it immediately aggro

[lunar hollow]

do u mean first medicae as in the one after the first event

[crystal jolt]

no the one before it

[lunar hollow]

dont remember a dh ever spawning there

[crystal jolt]

a host can spawn on that bottom floor or the floor above where the button is for the door into the first event, but because the spawn trigger for the boss can be on the stairs, it can put a daemonhost behind you and if someone is there it will aggro on them immediately.

I've definitely had it happen a few times and every time it's the same thing of "I didn't even know it was there" because it wasn't when we all went by.

[spice veldt]

i continue to strongly dislike trauma psykers who put their circle directly on me when i'm meleeing

and their staff doesn't even one-shot poxwalkers

mfers

[lunar hollow]

its so fucking agitating

basically the only time to do smth like that is when ur making space for someone to move

but like

99% of the time theyre doin it

u wanna be where ur standing

so its like BITCH STOP IT I WANNA HIT THE ENEMIES

[spice veldt]

yeah fuckers have enemies that are ahead of me to blast

[lunar hollow]

the worst though is always void psykers

because that shit blinds u

like BROTHER I WANT TO SEE

MY EYES

THEYRE BURNING

[spice veldt]

u run bloom

so i'm sure your eyes are already well-cooked

yum

[lunar hollow]

look

thats not an excuse

for the abuse i suffer from void psykers

[crystal jolt]

i'm honestly the same for anyone using their ranged to kill shit that i already have tied up in melee

like please step in if i look overwhelmed

but don't kill the 6 bruisers from ranged that i'm already killing

you're just wasting ammo and making it so i can't regen toughness

[cosmic sigil]

@feral verge

[spice veldt]

and spreading enemies around

cuz trauma

[lunar hollow]

brauto vets shooting the horde while im at 0 toughness:

[spice veldt]

wow thanks time to take potshots and be unable to regen toughness

too bad I ran out of blocks

can't block anymore trauma/rumbler pub players

[crystal jolt]

nice, zero toughness and the one bruiser you didnt kill hit me.

[lunar hollow]

does blocking do anything

[feral verge]

Exceedingly neat

[spice veldt]

i assume it does

[cyan portal]

get one more try/many more tries, somewhat solves crapshoot mission board

[feral verge]

Hope you didn't spend too much on it

[spice veldt]

it says it does

[crystal jolt]

it does it's best

[lunar hollow]

i get kinda mad when crab shills rumbler

cuz like

he can probably use it ok

cuz hes not stupid

[spice veldt]

crab brain is superior to 99% of pub players

[lunar hollow]

but 95% of people who use it shoot it into hordes and knock shit out of my swings

and make the horde signficantly more dangerous because they blast enemies past the chokepoint im using

[spice veldt]

and lowering the density of enemies

like mf, my illisi has 20 cleave

[crystal jolt]

i want to see him bank shot his rumbler off shit with like 500 iq

[cosmic sigil]

i did a trio t5 yesterday with a lvl22 zealot and a surge psyker it was very fine

[lunar hollow]

crab wastes so much time in the psykh doing weird shit that like

his nonsensical bullshit works

but pub players have normally never touched psykh

[spice veldt]

pub surge psyker that melees

god bless

[lunar hollow]

and dont even know what damage they do to enemies

[crystal jolt]

knife zealot + shieldgryn in MY damn STG?? it's more likely than you think

[cosmic sigil]

nah, the staff was from the shop and i had stuff lying around from gifts

[cosmic sigil]

yeah, melee is illisi and spam heavy all the time, the guys is a murder machine on the zealot so...

[spice veldt]

o premade

[tired estuary]

Rumbler might be my least favorite gun to see on a teammate lol

At least laspistol is doing literally nothing instead of actively disrupting shit

[cosmic sigil]

yeah, it's people i tend to play with when they're available, i'm the one carried usually, so it was nice to help in return

and by carried it;s like hard, i'm juste a resource bot at that point

[lunar hollow]

and then oftentimes they just vacuum up ammo

for little benefit

[tired estuary]

I mean I had to play with a rumbler ogryn the other day whose name was "I Steal Ammo" so

[lunar hollow]

at least u know what ur getting into lol

[tired estuary]

Once I see an explosion in my face while I'm fighting 2 bruisers I know what I'm getting into lol

[spice veldt]

at least the rumbler gives you time to process your emotions

[feral verge]

I have played with that guy lmao

Yesterday

[spice veldt]

fuck they're in america?

[feral verge]

He used the uhh

The shotgun one though

I forgot what that's called

[spice veldt]

kickback

[lunar hollow]

lmfao

[feral verge]

Yeah

[lunar hollow]

racist arco?????

[spice veldt]

smh playing darktide and not knowing every weapon name

[feral verge]

He was using the kickback on solitary enemies lmao

Like lone trash mobs

[spice veldt]

america is not a race

[lunar hollow]

i bet i could change ur mind

[spice veldt]

well, at least they're having fun

those types of people are why I play psyker

imagine having to ever worry about ammo in pub matches lemayo

[lunar hollow]

psyker is fun but not the visceral satisfaction of solo clearing every room of elite/specials with bolter in under 10 seconds

[spice veldt]

true

the touch of a force burst dps ranged weapon

i long for it

[lunar hollow]

speaking of satisfaction

https://streamable.com/xuff4q

i love brainbursting shit and having like a half second margin between dying to an unrelated enemy

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[lunar hollow]

teaches u why edging is dangerous

dont wanna waste precious time

[tired estuary]

Its okay when I'm not psyker sometimes I just have to put myself horribly out of position and sprint past a crusher mob to get small ammo pickup before orgyn slurps it up

[spice veldt]

hard life out on the streets

[white sky]

Tbh when this shit happens I just go "fuck it, their problem now"

And play a glorified zealot

[ornate hamlet]

IS AN ARD LOIFE YEAH

[spice veldt]

at least there's numericui so i don't have to worry about fucking my other non-asshole teammates over as much

[lunar hollow]

i feel bad when someone pings ammo and im like 40 meters ahead tryin to kill shit

and im the only one on yellow

like bro i understand u wanna help but at this point im too deep

[spice veldt]

a real bro would carry that ammo to you

[lunar hollow]

i dont see u doin that for me

what does that make u

[spice veldt]

cuz i want to be your lover of course

[lunar hollow]

😳

[spice veldt]

😳

[ornate hamlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/452974535629864980/1117173914951495780/image0.gif

[spice veldt]

real

[lunar hollow]

real

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-gif-20291158

[latent tree]

Tf2 jerma

[white sky]

Jerma is such a specimen

[median vessel]

Hi yeah is psyker supposed to feel super weak at lower levels?

I only just got trauma staff, feels weird and clunky.

[white sky]

As you get to higher levels the staves get way better

I find they're more stat reliant then guns are, I primarily used a force sword and BB till like, 25ish

[median vessel]

Ah fair enough

I' started one hoping to have fun with the zappy zappy stave

[white sky]

Surge is reliable for the CC but apparently it's really easy to fuck your team with

Personally I love voidstrike

[spice veldt]

trauma is a lot shitter at lower levels cuz of how it scales

2.5 seconds at 0% charge rate compared to 1.3 seconds at 80% charge rate

[lunar hollow]

trauma is the worst weapon i have ever used while levelling

[spice veldt]

actual poopoo

[white sky]

Frankly I still don't like trauma

[lunar hollow]

goddamn depressing

[spice veldt]

trauma is love

[white sky]

It just doesn't feel good to play with imo

Also obligatory >stairs

[spice veldt]

stairs aren't real

[white sky]

Love me voidstrike tho

Voidstrike and Deimos gaming hours

[lunar hollow]

stairs are what the illisi was invented for

[white sky]

Honestly, prefer Dick Sword

Feels more interactive

[lunar hollow]

but u cant clothesline hounds with it

u just poke em

[white sky]

Also was a rapier Saltz main forever so it gives me those warm fuzzy feelings

[spice veldt]

i'm allergic to brain usage with weapons

[lunar hollow]

not as satisfying

[white sky]

You can stab em right in the face

Mutants too

One shot em both

And the reach feels nice

[burnt maple]

i prefer the illisi

[lunar hollow]

illisi is just kinda overtuned

like with slaughterer u can 1 tap a mutie

its so stupid

[white sky]

Illisi is like using a BB imo

[burnt maple]

i like jousting mutants with it, it still 2 shots them at least, with no slaughterer stacks

[white sky]

Bull Butcher

Or PS

It just isn't fun for me

[lunar hollow]

its like using a bull butcher that also 1 shots a lot of enemies

[burnt maple]

use the knife if you want a challenge

[lunar hollow]

the problem is that using any of the worse weapons is an even shittier experience

[spice veldt]

yeah the illisi is not very interactive

press special, hold lmb

[lunar hollow]

the arbitrary challenge of bad weapons isnt really fun to me when im putting in a bunch more effort for less reward

[white sky]

I like interactive weapons because they require actual input

I like thinking, believe it or not

[lunar hollow]

deimos and thammer are two weapons i like in terms of game design

[spice veldt]

impossible

[burnt maple]

the problem is that none of the non-psyker weapons interact with our feats or any warp abilities

[lunar hollow]

deimos a little less because, again, many of the BPs it hits are also achievable by illisi

slaughterer is evil

[burnt maple]

i'd use a shovel if i could empower it

force shovel would own

[tired estuary]

whipping out the force bussy

[lunar hollow]

i hate that like

[median vessel]

Believe in the force luke

[lunar hollow]

there's the blatantly overpowered and meta blessings

on most of the good weapons

[white sky]

I want one Chad psyker in 40k Lore to use a Force Fist

[lunar hollow]

and then there's the very rare interactive blessings

[white sky]

I've never heard of one

[median vessel]

Jedi would be considered heretic psykers in the wh40k universe and order 66 would be breakfast

[spice veldt]

slaughterer on illisi, power sword, and BB lemayo

[lunar hollow]

that change how u play the game and reward u for doing so

and then there's just

the GOD AWFUl 80% of blessings

that do fuck all

[spice veldt]

oh and heavy sword headtaker

[median vessel]

DnD battlewizard cast fist

[lunar hollow]

like have u ever looked at the devils claw

and gone

[median vessel]

Like Bixby's hang but fist form

[lunar hollow]

oh man i wish i could have 200% impact with 2 blessings

no?

[burnt maple]

honestly, Slaugtherer is a net loss for fun in the game

[tired estuary]

imagine if you got rewarded for hitting claw counter

[lunar hollow]

then WHY THE FUCK IS THERE LIKE 4 IMPACT BLESSINGS ON IT

i think in the ideal game balance world blessings would be like

[spice veldt]

impact

[lunar hollow]

some sort of bonus that changes with requirements

so like slaughterer would obvs give more than headtaker but it wouldnt be such a crazy amount more

[spice veldt]

it is a net increase in mission completion times so i don't mind it much

[median vessel]

To punch really hard.

[lunar hollow]

and u would change the reward % based on what it gives

[median vessel]

You hit a mutie and ragdoll it.

[lunar hollow]

so for the same condition u get more damage than power

cuz damage isnt quite as useful

[median vessel]

Honestly i either want warpfire stave or lightning stave basic trauma stave sucks doodooass

[lunar hollow]

and then there'd be at least 2-3 'interactive' blessings

that function like ripper gun's can opener

basically changing how you play for a specific benefit in some scenarios

in can opener's case, stuff u do less than 100% damage to, which requires u to stab em with the bayonet (which is otherwise mostly useless)

[burnt maple]

there's a lot of blessings that are just straight up garabge

[spice veldt]

you unlock most/all weapons by lvl 15 iirc

[burnt maple]

terrifying barage and run n' gun are completely worthless

[lunar hollow]

those blessings just like

don't function in most cases

because like

[median vessel]

Blarghhh

But levelling is pain

[lunar hollow]

there's no real utility to sprinting while shooting

[burnt maple]

yeah, exactly

[median vessel]

And i play solo so anything above uprising reams my ass

[lunar hollow]

it's such a marginal benefit because you can just... stop pressing shift?

[burnt maple]

sprinting already deletes your stamina

[lunar hollow]

and on higher difficulties when are you fucking SPRINTING into stuff u wanna shoot at???

never

[median vessel]

And no one ever fucking covers the psyker

[lunar hollow]

like u cant just sprint into a gun line

ur gonna be sliding n stuff

and probably moving erratically to the point where u dont wanna shoot

[burnt maple]

run 'n ' slide, increase your slide by 700% distance

[lunar hollow]

like for example one blessing i would like is to basically rip the reload mechanic from tf2's flare gun and crossbow

where it does it passively when not equipped

for like

revolver and rumbler/kickback

because u know what

[burnt maple]

Darktide needs jarate and piss sniper

[lunar hollow]

that would actually give them a utility (if you buffed revolver's damage significantly)

you could quickswap, deal with at most like 3-4 targets

and then go back to melee

and not really have to worry about wasting time to reload so long as u dont gotta pull the gun out again

its not like revolver or rumbler have a bunch of blessings that give a major impact anyways

[burnt maple]

what did the reload for flare gun and cross bow do?

[lunar hollow]

when u didnt have it equipped it would reload passively

[burnt maple]

yeah that's never gonna make it to darktide lol

[lunar hollow]

i mean we have charmed reload

which basically increases the size of a heavy stubber mag by like 2-3x

[spice veldt]

smh other classes having access to passive reloads

[lunar hollow]

on achlys, with charmed reload and crit chance, to use all of your ammo up

you only need 1 reload

so long as you hit the majority of your shots

[burnt maple]

i hope we get some new staves or melees soon

i want the laser staff Sienna had

[lunar hollow]

u should access a gym and work ur arms out

lil twink

[spice veldt]

nnno

[lunar hollow]

why not

[spice veldt]

same

am already stronk enough

[burnt maple]

can you open a jar?

[lunar hollow]

mr ultrathin laptop

[spice veldt]

yes

josho is persecuting me for my choice of laptop

[burnt maple]

then you're good

[spice veldt]

ikr

only strength check that one has to pass in life

[lunar hollow]

i need proof

[spice veldt]

wha

[lunar hollow]

show me that u can open a jar

cmon

if u do i'll stop

[spice veldt]

no

[lunar hollow]

wtf

rude

dont broken heart me bitch ur the one who wont prove u have any upper body strength at all

[restive slate]

Why? When all he needs is lower body strength?

[lunar hollow]

whats he gonna do with that

[restive slate]

Open your jar

[worn canopy]

In my psyker chat

[restive slate]

Oh crap

[lunar hollow]

😳

[restive slate]

I thought it was zealot chat my b

I must quell

[meager cedar]

Psyker chat is where you flex your brain muscle

[restive slate]

But I got drain bamage

[cosmic sigil]

I just did 25 dmg taken in lo int. I wanna do the same in regular :/

[cosmic sigil]

@spice veldt is it possible to make a viable build without using a staff and a force sword?

[elfin nexus]

dueling sword mk5 does fine

this one kills muties in 3 hits which isnt that bad all things considered

you could always use combat blade or caxe as well

[cosmic sigil]

Well i use the shredder and I was thinking going for the following feats 131132

[elfin nexus]

why wrack and ruin

[cosmic sigil]

Because why 1 or 2?

[elfin nexus]

because warp unleashed buffs your damage lol

hmm do i want soulblaze stacks (conditionally) or more dmg across the board

[cosmic sigil]

How do you se me getting peril?

[elfin nexus]

you can still brainburst

warp unleashed buffs bb as well

[cosmic sigil]

Hmmm

True

So maybe barrage instead of ab?

[elfin nexus]

i mean you can take it but if youre gonna do that you may as well take kinetic barrage

yeah

[cosmic sigil]

And with warp unleashed as well?

[elfin nexus]

``On Damnation this achieves the following break points with BB:

Ragers become 1 shot at 3 warp charges and 100% peril.
Flamers become 1 shot at 3 warp charges and 100% peril.
Pox Bursters become 1 shot at 1 warp charges and 100% peril.
Bulwarks become always 2 shot if casting back to back.
Crushers become 2 shot at 5 warp charges and 100% peril.
Reapers become always 3 shot if casting back to back.
Mutants become 3 shot at 1 warp charge if casting back to back.``

from the steam guide

[ornate hamlet]

You don't need to, you already get 10% free damage to anything you do from 0% peril

[elfin nexus]

imagine....

[ornate hamlet]

ew

[elfin nexus]

im so sad about this one

[steel flame]

Wrack and ruin is baller and I can't physically or mentally understand how people sleep on it... actually that's not true. People see an easy number get bigger WU and stop thinking

[shadow wigeon]

What build do you use it with?

[steel flame]

I use it with KB on my low peril builds to wipe mixed hordes without using any ammo. Usually on my gun builds but I also find it to extremely clutch on my void staff too

Shit that thing is a pocket AB on steroids on command

It's especially useful on the elite clusters you get constantly on hi intensity and hi shock troop. 4-5 on random elites and you wiped out everything except the ogryns

I do wish it proced on monsters but I understand why they don't let it

Tho I do usually talk with the team and let them know when I need some alone time with the elite so they don't snipe them before I can burn the city down

[shadow wigeon]

Yea that is a big issue for getting value out of it. Ever try it with Wildfire?

[near wyvern]

The issue with Wrack and Ruin is it's situational and you are contesting for kills on targets that need to die ASAP with an attack that's relatively slow.

Also for things like pox bursters, wrack and ruin doesn't outright kill them like warp unleashed does, not to talk about the fact that WU allows guns to reach break points and makes it easier for staves to proc Battle Meditation on trash.

[near wyvern]

And there is another underwhelming feat. Wildfire is bugged AF and contributes very little to your overall damage.

[shadow wigeon]

Nah I love it, it's great. Been using it for a long time now. Mercing hordes around corners, into spawns, keeping slaughter up for free etc much prefer it over battery on purg.

And it's just more fun to goof with it too

The bugs, such as they are, just aren't material when you're using it

[near wyvern]

You sure? Purgatus staff is like the one that benefits the least from Wildfire...

[shadow wigeon]

It's a different playstyle. You get to switch to melee more often because the horde takes care of itself. It's just more fun for me, and it vaporizes hordes.

[shadow wigeon]

4 stacks is all you need. The simplest tech is to get 6 or so stacks ont he front of a horde, then switch to sword. First kill you get procs Slaughter and then it instantly cascades into 5 stacks, and it burns for ages. Into spawns, across rooms, while youre transitioning from zones I'm getting kills.

None of the points there are really bugs.. it functions fine.

[near wyvern]

Ehh... You do you I guess

Never knew the transition areas were less than 5 meters in distance

[shadow wigeon]

The mobs that are movign from one area to another keep spreading it

[cosmic sigil]

Oohhhhh that's right I forgot that!!!

[near wyvern]

I just don't get it why you switch to melee when you have access to infinite cleave AoE damage supression and stagger

[shadow wigeon]

I've had it run for almost a minute straight on the exit of Dreyko, fr instance.

[shadow wigeon]

Because I don't want to stand around and flame when it doesn't matter that much.

If it's big elites, sure you say on staff. Small elites... meh, you really don't need to.

And being able to deimos a mutie while simultanesouly killing the horde, is just fun.

It is better on high intensity, though

Underwhelming on reg and especially low.

[cosmic sigil]

Bro.

[steel flame]

There are like 40 different ways to kill poxbursters and bb certainly doesn't top the lost of go to's anyways for me to even consider mercing a pox with a bb it's going to be plenty far away enough to just shoot it's last sliver of health or just do a second bb

[shadow wigeon]

Also if you want to get fancy, you can switch to staff and LMB off 3 shots, then switch to sword, without losing Slaughter stacks. You can keep moving and just blast LMB to keep it going/topped up.

[burnt maple]

Wrack and Ruin is just Okay

it needs something

we also need some kind of soulfire starter ability instead of having to rely on fire blessings/purg staff only

[near wyvern]

It needs to proc on any non monstrosity hit.

[burnt maple]

something more

that's still really situational

[near wyvern]

Well yes but it sorta gives you an option to deal AoE damage while brain bursting if it was on hit. Like make it an actual grenade.

[burnt maple]

maybe if it caused BB to start lighting your target on fire as you're charging up BB

like every 1/3 of the BB cast it inflicts a couple stacks of soulflame

[lunar hollow]

that would be kinda funny with kinetic barrage

[burnt maple]

yeah but that would also own

and it would own more

[shadow wigeon]

All this wrack and ruin talk makes me want to give it anothe chance on some meme build....

[burnt maple]

that's kind of the point, you have to spin so many plates to make it work

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker has the overwhelmingly annoying benefit of having warp charges be so fucking good

"You can get more damage to everything"
"Cool, I'll pick that"
"You didn't even hear the other options"
"I don't need to"

[steel flame]

@near wyvern Now I will give you that it is situational and it's giving an extra 10% damage that might meet some breakpoint somewhere but you are trading that measly 10% for extreme spikes in damage in elite dense situations. It use case situation is also a near constant in the hi mutators and that value is more then enough to make me take it in many builds over WU

[burnt maple]

with Psychic Communion it's extremely rare that i ever have to worry about keeping the stacks up

[ornate hamlet]

My beef with fire DoT is that unless it's faster than me actively attacking the enemy I straight up won't give a shit about it

[steel flame]

Am I saying it's the be all end all and nobody should use WU? No cause that would be stupid

[ornate hamlet]

Whenever I have crowd problems I just pull a gun and hipfire everywhere

Staff users get trauma, purgatus and voidstrike for that

[near wyvern]

If you have wrack and ruin with one bolter vet and you could have just as well left the column empty 😅

[ornate hamlet]

The elite requirement annoys me

They could've "easily™" made the effect proportional to the kind of enemy being burst, but always present somehow

[near wyvern]

If they would change it to non monstrosity hit I would say it to be a considerable option, at the moment it's highly situational so there is a better option. Reliability is something that should be highly valued as you have a lot of situations where you need to know if a hit kills or not.

[ornate hamlet]

be me
developer
put nice, but niche upgrade on the same line as blanket damage increase
I am developing

[steel flame]

For me I consider my insurance policy, when ammo is tight or diving into melee is not an option I have a secondary horde clear in my back pocket

[lunar hollow]

part of the problem is how feat choices are structured

like

all of the 'defensive' options are on one row

and that includes situational and general stuff

so if u can choose a kinda ok general buff or a kinda ok situational one

ur probably gonna choose the general one

like the zealot third tier has two options that are minor buffs for specific things happening to u that apply for like 5 seconds after the condition is met, and that condition isn't easily repeatable

vs a flat toughness dr that also applies to coherency

in what world are these situational options competing with shit that is just always active

like u could probably stick wrack and ruin and kinetic flayer on the same feat tier and then uhh idk a third option like maybe cerebral lacerations

and boom you have a "conditional but pretty useful bonus" column

[steel flame]

that sounds fucking terrible

thats even worse than all the defensive feats being on the same tier

[lunar hollow]

thank u for the wise input

[steel flame]

i charge by the hour

[lunar hollow]

i dont need to pay for people to insult me

[white sky]

Have you played VT2?

[elfin nexus]

sounds pretty good to me lol

[steel flame]

oh im not insulting nobody, im just pointing out that putting litterally all of the feats that synergize with each other on the same tier......

[elfin nexus]

how do they synergize with each other huh

[lunar hollow]

those feats don't really synergize with each other

i mean

you don't see anyone ever running those three

like none of those are impactful enough in their direct purpose to really work with each other

[elfin nexus]

they all synergize with feats on other columns

[lunar hollow]

kinetic flayer is literally just a vessel for uptime on warp charges

without running communion

cerebral lacerations exists if u wanna... kill crushers in 2 brainbursts

[steel flame]

flayer can proc both wrack and lacerations which then boosts damage against whatever you were procing flayer on while also setting everything on fire which also benifits from lacerations on the target you just proced on

[lunar hollow]

wrack and ruin i guess has some(?) usage, but none of those 3 are majorly impact in the way that something like 10-25% damage flat is

[lunar hollow]

right but nobody builds for that

[steel flame]

and thats a right shame

[lunar hollow]

like lacerations seriously is not that useful

outside of a specific build where you maximize brainburst damage for a breakpoint on crushers and maybe reapers

flayer also literally just exists for the fact that the brainburst gives you warp charges

[steel flame]

i wont mention any gun builds then

[lunar hollow]

so if u wanna run aura

instead of communion

its kinda like the thing

[steel flame]

i know people get scared of guns when you mention them

[lunar hollow]

i can count on half a hand how many times ive seen a gun psyker that wasn't using an autopistol

and if u have an autopistol ur building around that gun in most cases

instead of around the class that has the gun

[steel flame]

i mean of course im goinna build my class around the weapon im using

[lunar hollow]

like the synergy you brought up is just outclassed in most cases by other options on those tiers

[shadow wigeon]

Wrack + Lacerations + 3 WC's = 2 BB reaper. Not bad, I guess. But giving up Aura for lacerations feels bad with KB.

[lunar hollow]

i think if my math was right its also for crushers

with laceration and battery and warp unleashed

[steel flame]

id also be running laspistol with that build too if they hadnt gutted inferno

[lunar hollow]

but again thats really not that helpful on psyker

u dont see it almost ever in the wild

the only feat that ever truly sees a good amount of usage is flayer

the other 2 are just kinda sad pissbaby stuff

if u put all 3 of those on the same row... maybe flayer would still be the most picked, but now the other 2 aren't competing with options widely considered to just be better

[steel flame]

and when the other auto guns become something that cant be done better be the shredder ill run them with that build too

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah WU + Lacerations + 4 wc = 2 BB crusher.

[lunar hollow]

yea

but u gotta run lacerations for that

and even then like, that breakpoint becomes meaningless if anyone else does a decent amount of damage to that crusher

[shadow wigeon]

Losing Aura is very unfortunate.

[lunar hollow]

im a communion gremlin myself

i like running battery

[shadow wigeon]

If I'm running KB I prefer Aura.

[lunar hollow]

i just kinda live with the fact my ult is always on a 30 second cooldown

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, actually I take that back... I like it, but I actually default to Comm/battery with KB looking at my builds.

[lunar hollow]

battery iz nice for the brainburst 1 taps on like i think flamers and ragers (though, that damage necessity is variable depending on your peril %)

the problem with the ult CDR feats i have is that like, i'll have the mental expectation that my ult is back at a certain time

and i'll just forget i have it anyways

and its like what the fuck is the feat even doing for me if im not used to playing with it

[shadow wigeon]

It's also team support.

Happy zealots, and other psykers, mainly.

Not sad when my ult gets refreshed faster on vet now and then, tho.

[lunar hollow]

the only helpful team stuff i ever notice in this game is vet's aoe nade regen feat

i never really pay attention to the other ones, and im certain most people probably won't take notice in a pub either

[shadow wigeon]

Yes and no. Zealots will almost always get utility out of it, and vets ocassionally. Psykers on trauma or surge are never sad if they can vent more often. I can't pitch hard for it though.

[spice veldt]

at least psyker's ult is pretty good at saving yourself from dogs and trappers

[lunar hollow]

the thing is that like

it's coherency based

i can't control the positioning of my teammates

[fluid knot]

Incredibly accurate

[lunar hollow]

but i know that most of the time im probably not going to be in it by the virtue of someone (normally me) being very aggressive

and building around helping people is one of those things i just don't kinda do because all that support depends on teammates doing anything worthwhile with it. there's no amount of coherency ult regen that saves an idiot from dying unfortunately

[fluid knot]

I notice the ammo regen when on the Ogg using kickback or rumbler

[lunar hollow]

i can't really measure the benefits of giving someone else their ult back, what i can measure is the helpfulness in uptime on something like warp charges

i prefer the consistency of just knowing i don't really have to babysit my damage boost with brain bursts

[shadow wigeon]

Well, not being able to measure it isn't a great argument against it. You know that zealot ult means toughness regen, and vet ult is almost certainly DR and damage boost. Psyker ult depends more on the staff, but is generally useful. I think it's pretty strong, but you'll have to make an effort to stay with the team, and just trust it's being put to good use.

I know I really notice it when someone is runnig it and I'm on Surge staff.

More venting, more lightning a+

[lunar hollow]

vet kinda just breaks every rule that's established by how other classes operate

it's a whole bunch of "Wow dude, your mom let you have insert game-altering feat?"

has the best built-in aoe passive in the game, and the second best as an optional pick

largest effective health pool, most damage output, most ammo, etc

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah but you're a vet.

[lunar hollow]

the one downside is the stamina bar

thats about it

and you have every tool in the game to just kinda ignore that limitation unless you have let things go very badly

[lunar hollow]

i just don't really think this line of thinking is helpful to me. if my team is good, a zealot ult's utility is... mobility, which is probably gonna get them out of my coherency anyways. the toughness regen is nice but not strictly necessary in any circumstances so long as theyre killing stuff in melee/have EWEW, and vet ult has infinite uptime until there's no longer any relevant threats on the screen

if they're bad... it's for nothing

i can't depend on teammates, so i'm not going to build around them. have had way too many games where people are absolutely struggling to pull their weight and there's nothing i can really do to help them besides do the work myself

[grizzled iris]

Pulling everyones weight is expected of you. This is why bad players join damnation because they are expecting to get carried

[fluid knot]

Well its the class designed for people not familiar with melee combat in an FPS game, the "Look we have something for the masses" class

[polar grail]

I really enjoy the vets character but zealots "screw this guy in particular" ult is really funny

[median vessel]

WHY IS PSYKER LEVELLING SO PAINFUL

gimme my freaking lightning stave already >:(

[cyan moth]

what level are you?

[median vessel]

5

[cyan moth]

I just remake my psyker, leveling isn't so bad

but im doing the sinful way of doing it

using the

a*topistol...

(sinful act)

[near gale]

That can't be worse than me constantly slapping t4 pinning fire and t4 bromentum on my newer zealot's autopistols and rashads...

[near wyvern]

I don't want to be a party pooper but surge staff is one of those on the hard end to play effectively, you gotta master Illisi first

[polar grail]

Friendship ended, cant believe you smh smh, we were supposed to be oshi no ko buddys

[near wyvern]

It's because it deals no damage outside of flak and carapace, so if you just zap all day you are not contributing in horde fights

[polar grail]

The low level trauma staffs are still clearing waves well for me and you get them pretty early, is nice

[cosmic sigil]

Same same

[cyan moth]

I fucking HATE the autopistol

its a dumb weapon >:C

I will not be silenced by such sinful actors

[near wyvern]

This is the way

[polar grail]

GOOD

BESIDES you gotta practice your shadow wizard quell cancel technique or you'll never be an arch wizard

[cyan moth]

Oh I already got it down lmfao

I gun psyker until 30

Then I can actually get plasteel

[fluid knot]

Thats what i did initially, back before brunts getting a good magic pole was a tirade so i just used guns till maxed out

[polar grail]

Are the lower level staffs really that bad?

Ive been non stop top scoring heresy with one around level 8, granted it is heresy

[cyan moth]

Yeah they're bad lmao

Not as good as other weapons avalisvle

[polar grail]

At least I can spam it out without eating everyones ammo

hungry hungry psykers

[fluid knot]

Not just bad, also hard to come by

[polar grail]

I had like 3 decent ones for my level when they first came into my shop so ig I got lucky

think the one I took was like 38% area, 35% damage

[west galleon]

What team comp is good for flame stick?

Sometimes i want to see things burn but i feel like i am better off just taking my decked out voidstrike

[strong thicket]

Quick question, does terrifying even work on purgatus?

[lethal folio]

Only on direct damage kills.

[spice veldt]

any comp where at least one of your teammates takes the aggro from ranged will make up for its lack of range

[strong thicket]

So only while spraying got it. Kinda useless I guess

[fluid knot]

Not useless, just not amazing

I'll deffo save you gettin bonked as much if stuff gets within melee range, but its not a requirement

[harsh cobalt]

People rocking the trauma staff on damnation? I find it fun, but kinda hard to make it work in some situations. Feel like voidstrike is so much more versatile

Still like seeing blobs of enemies turned into giblets when you land a good one

[nimble bolt]

Does anyone know if a brain burst counts as a headshot? Wanting to get the achievement to do 20 consecutive headshots thinking that may be the easiest way

[inland sand]

it's imo the best staff on Damnation, you just have to have the right build for it

[safe crystal]

It should, at least back in December it did

[autumn igloo]

I finished pick n mix penaces but it was failed run. i didn't unlock the pants even though i have penace done?

[ember hornet]

may need to restart game IIRC

[autumn igloo]

Oh that work

ty

[digital loom]

its yellow damage sso yeah it should

[olive ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXNH2Obm88 @ember hornet ;-; I want a PS5 now

[ember hornet]

the intro for that game

is insane

shame it's exclusive for 6 months

I doubt I'll ever buy a Playstation or Xbox

[smoky wigeon]

staff kills count as warp kill right? like the lightning and stuff

?>

[fluid knot]

Negative

[smoky wigeon]

WHAT? Really?

awwww

[raven gate]

what? it should? pretty sure i get toughness back on purge staff kill

[carmine basin]

Would be silly if they didn't what with the lightning... and warpfire...

[safe crystal]

Warp kills are force sword specials, brain burst, and all staff attacks

[olive ember]

@smoky wigeon it does count, its soulblaze kills that don't count

unless they changed something

nvrm guess they changed it so soulblaze counts now

[south zephyr]

Hadron 😡

[olive ember]

Are you pleased varlet?

[south zephyr]

cost me 1k plasteel and an hour of my life

who needs a game to respect your time anyways?

[cyan portal]

maybe higher rank in first slot does increase chance of t4 in second?

[olive ember]

no clue

[south zephyr]

was the only TB I had available

[olive ember]

its all hearsay

[south zephyr]

but it shouldn't make a difference

[olive ember]

surge BiS is flurry Nexus now anyways

tho surge is decent out the box since you use it for the funny CC so none of the stats or perks or blessings will drastically change it

[south zephyr]

but it was a godroll base 😦

this damn game

[olive ember]

yep

Don't worry tho

they are looking at locks

[cyan portal]

It's ok, you'll get a god surge pretty quick anyway, would have been very lucky to land it first try

[olive ember]

so in a few decades maybe you can get that god roll weapon

[south zephyr]

comms link later today, so ready for the next dose of disappointment

for the sake of hopium, I'll hold on to that seizure stick for now

[ember hornet]

a whole hour to get a weapon, kids these days don't know what it was like

[west galleon]

For the sake of no one:
Why do you (YES YOU) prefer warp absorption over the other 2 feats (especially) quietitude.

I personally prefer the on demand regen while quelling because i dont want to depend on a kill for regen.

[cosmic sigil]

If I play my instable Illisi I know I'll spam activate a lot.

If I play my exorcist Illisi, I use quietude

[ornate epoch]

any tipps for this one? xD i thought its so easy i would sure do it accidentally at some point, but i gguess not.. hrm.. maybe int he water hack part were you defend that tower with the 2 bridges..

[ember hornet]

yeah that spot is super easy to get it on

[crystal jolt]

There's some sections at the beginning of hab dreyko and chasm terminus with ledges that you can get this at. If you hang around for a bit, a horde should spawn and you can get it with that.

[river birch]

How's the staff play with Psykers? Seeing one made me want to make one for it specifically

[spice veldt]

staffs do give a lot of value and they synergize with our toughness Regen feats compared to guns

our melee is also insanely busted at this point in time

however, you might not like their 'feel' because all of them currently have secondaries that require you to charge it, and the LMB on all of them feels terrible to use. There is no staff equivalent of something like a braced auto; they're all either CC and/or AoE in some way.

[lyric burrow]

I enjoy all of them

[river birch]

I liked the AoE that I saw in game. Interested me enough to give it a try. Figured I could get a bigger picture here, so I know what I'm getting into

[lyric burrow]

Surge is prob my least fav and its still feels good

As arcto said our melee is insane and can round out pretty much anything

[ionic frost]

Surge won't help when the other 3 people on your team never learned how to melee and fold instantly to a horde. =)

Purge will carry them.

[spice veldt]

having access to brainburst means that your team probably won't die to a patrol of 10 crushers/bulwarks that the game decided to spawn

all-in-all, nice class that currently has a limited selection of ranged force weapons

[river birch]

That limited selection could increase in the future, right? Assuming they bring us DLC and what not

[spice veldt]

yeah

[ember hornet]

there have been a few things datamined that indicate new staffs

[spice veldt]

part of the problem is that each existing family currently only has one mark

I want my other marks of the trauma

gimme

[ornate hamlet]

Force javelin, pierces carapace and damages things in a thin line with massive cleave

[lethal folio]

That might be what the throwing knives are for.

Though it's more likely they are trueflight copies.

[harsh urchin]

trueflight?

[lethal folio]

Elf homing arrows.

[ornate hamlet]

Noooo don't turn my psyker into an elf nooooo

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-emoji-disintegrating-emoji-disappearing-meme-21st-century-gif-24891417

[raven gate]

time to slay heretics, lumberfoots

[shy prairie]

haha no please don't turn my psyker into an elf

haha no

[quick python]

*mon'keigh

[harsh urchin]

Pretty sure homing won't exist outside of an ability

[lethal folio]

It's the gunglinger blitz, the brainburst equivalent.

[harsh urchin]

Given how it was so broken in vt they removed the bow from vt2

[rigid blade]

What’s currently seen as the best force sword?

[harsh urchin]

Deimos and illisi are currently popular

[rigid blade]

Why’s that?

[olive ember]

because they are broke

[harsh urchin]

Deimos hits one shot breakpoints on pretty much everything in the game

Illisi is very synergistic with the slaughterer blessing which is currently overtuned, allowing it to basically slice through mixed hordes like butter

[rigid blade]

Sounds like Illisi is my go to considering I already have good single target with BB and that one ult perk

[harsh urchin]

Are you in low difficulty?

[rigid blade]

Damnation.

[harsh urchin]

Surprised to hear you say that

[rigid blade]

I dunno the details of what I do but I’m competent enough to not be dead weight

[harsh urchin]

But yeah i think it's very likely for the power blessings to be nerfed soon

So keep an eye out for that

[rigid blade]

Aight, really hoping they add shared inventory soonish

[harsh urchin]

I expect slaught to go from 75->25 and pf from 100% to 40%

[spice veldt]

deimos's 1st light deals 2x damage, and the 2nd heavy deals 2.5x dmg
Illisi's special has great damage, stagger, and cleave without locking you in place

[rigid blade]

I see

[olive ember]

but obscures is OG and therefore the best

[spice veldt]

you smell

[rigid blade]

How important is charge rate on a trauma staff?

[cyan moth]

Not very, kinda

I mean if you are good at dodging then it doesn't really matter

On the fire staff you want

Range and cloud radius

Damage too obviously

[rigid blade]

I see

[cyan portal]

I'm still yet to see any convincing evidence that damage on purga has any significant impact

[inland sand]

important, but only in the grand scheme of everything on the Trauma staff needing to be good

probs tied second after damage with warp resistance.

in magical Xmas Land you'd have Damage at 80 and everything else high 70s

[frozen osprey]

@lunar hollow

[rigid blade]

Is the last feat still needed for Purgatus builds?

[willow hazel]

The last feat is strong, but not needed

[west galleon]

What if we got a viable staff melee

Not just a bonk

Or is this the point where force and gun lances should be put into the game

[ornate abyss]

thoughts

[cyan portal]

better than nothing, not great though

[ornate abyss]

I got it from mission

what blessing am I ripping? barrage?

[ornate abyss]

Oh and I found this in melk's

[cyan portal]

yeah rip tb if you dont have it, but just to use as a block in first slot to guarantee t4 nexus or flurry when upgrading to orange with an actually good staff

[ornate abyss]

or do I take nexus instead and slap it on this bad boy?

[cyan portal]

blessings are locked to staff type, so you couldnt do that

[ornate abyss]

right right right

WHYYYY

[white sky]

So, use Surge on Voidstrike, yeah?

[mental rock]

I would prefer flurry/transfer peril myself

[ornate abyss]

why

[white sky]

Por que?

[mental rock]

why? for a near infinite "magazine"?

[white sky]

To be honest I live near max peril anyway for the damage boosts

I dunno if that'd benefit me properly if I'm trying to stay near max

[mental rock]

thats fine, but in that case you cant really take advantage of flurry because you need to maintain your peril by quelling/switching

transfer peril makes flurry busted

[olive ember]

Surge on voidstrike is mid

Well voidstrike in general is mid

But surge blessing is like super mid

[mental rock]

ive maintained 5 warp flurry stacks for like a full minute at times with transfer peril

[white sky]

Dunno what flurry is yet if I'm honest

[mental rock]

im refering to the blessing warp flurry

it reduces the charge time of your secondary the longer you use it without being interrupted

with level 4 warp flurry you get a disgusting 50% reduction in charge time at max stacks

[white sky]

I'll give it a try and see if I like it, ty

[mental rock]

good luck sibling, aim for the head

[sterile vale]

You can stack it quickly by tossing out smaller charges too

[white sky]

It's what I strive for.

[near wyvern]

Depends on the build. Flurry Trauma, as long as you have some it's not that critical. Nexus Spirit you gotta have near max.

[near wyvern]

To emphasize that we are Psykers and we should suffer

[ornate abyss]

:/

at least I got this today!

[near wyvern]

You can but it's not good even on that. If it was on Surge staff it could actually be used but Fatshark design is obese and predatory.

[white sky]

What?

Oh, I get it now

The blessing and the staff both being named that fucked me up

[near wyvern]

Not only that but since charge cost is fixed as peril per second it also halves your cost to charge

Obese game design

[lethal folio]

surge+nexus voidstrike is fun.

[near wyvern]

@white sky wait till you hear about the fact that peril is called warp charge in code and warp charges are called souls

[ornate abyss]

is it? I have it but it is bad in damnation

only good against hordes

but mostly brainburst is the main weapon

[white sky]

Nothing surprises me anymore tbh

Makes the dark souls reference my name is cooler tho

[near wyvern]

Until you realize you can actually quell cancel the surge proc and most of the time your first ball kills the stuff and the second ball slaps a wall

[white sky]

I have gotten perils transfer 4 out of melk @near wyvern @mental rock

It begins

[mental rock]

nice

[polar grail]

perilous

[near wyvern]

For trauma? or for void?

[white sky]

Void

[smoky wigeon]

What's a good way to get tier 3 / 4 blessings ?

[spice veldt]

charge rate is extremely important because the scaling is from 2.5 seconds to 1.3 seconds, though you can afford to give some up if running an inner tranq warp flurry trauma spam build

[rigid blade]

I cannot fucking wait for shared inventory so I can actually get stuff for my other characters on the one character I actually have decked out.

[spice veldt]

damage is less so since the scaling is only from 300 to 400, and you can hit the one-shot breakpoints with either warp charges, warp battery, warp unleashed, and/or perks

[smoky wigeon]

Is there a recommended way to obtain tier 3 and 4 blessings?

[spice veldt]

yeah I've been holding off on leveling other classes because of curios

[harsh urchin]

Consecrate 350+ rating items or Melk

[smoky wigeon]

Is 350+ a green?

[burnt maple]

So you know how the weapon stats are divided into sections? There's one big score on the top right and then smaller ones in each section that add up to the big score in the top right. You want one that has between 350 to 380 in the first section by itself, the section the shows the damage numbers

[smoky wigeon]

Oh the 350 GREY ones

[burnt maple]

So a grey weapon with 380 would be a great roll etc

Yeah, but it doesn't have to be grey

It can be any rarity, but that first section is what matters

The perks add 20 to 50 each, and then the blessings add like 40 to 120 each or something. The absolutely best possible roll is like 560 total or something around that if you had tier 4 blessings and perks and a 380 base

A 310 base weapon with tier 4 blessings and perks will still end up a 450ish garbage weapon

If you're fishing for blessings, it's not a bad idea to hang on to the blue/purple weapons from end of mission Emporer's Gift rewards or the armory and just upgrade them for a chance at tier 4 blessings, to save on plasteel

[snow coral]

So melk needs runs with no deaths, I though I could cruise through that on Malice since Damnations runs had been rough

holy shit the pubs were trash

[burnt maple]

I always reroll that one now

[snow coral]

yeah, i rerolled grims

[burnt maple]

Even if it's just one

I reroll those, too. The 17 scrips/grims one or whatever. Hard pass, even if it is 700 melk bucks

[snow coral]

yeah 16 grims/scrips hard pass

[twilit flicker]

I think it's just a problem of awareness, lots of ppl assume you need scripts if you're looking. But it makes you look like an ass if you ask them not to die.

"Just don't die" is also not viable since it's true that ppl will die no matter, even if it's you.

[spice veldt]

i don't mind playing safer, but I've had a lot of people just get angry at me just because they had a contract they needed doing and I went down from doing something stupid

mfs could always just tell me before the fact, not after I die

[snow coral]

BuT YoUr A pSyKeR yOu ShOuLd KnOw!!!!

we read minds and shit

[spice veldt]

true, i'm a failure of a roleplayer 😔

[twilit flicker]

Just because you could read minds, doesn't mean you always win, as the Cutthroat shows us when he messes with the Savant.

That was a cool interaction.

[cosmic sigil]

550

[cosmic sigil]

Well. It depends. You can have a dump stat.

(i since put slaughterer4 on the one above)

[lunar hollow]

@spice veldt you've lead me down a path of stupidity

i keep forgetting i rebound jump to v

[autumn smelt]

The shark is infecting everything
Nothing is sacred
All shall fall

[lunar hollow]

blahaj 🙂

[spice veldt]

das a u problemo

[lunar hollow]

doesn't even express sympathy or anything WOW

[spice veldt]

no

[autumn smelt]

Sympathy is a sign of weakness sibling

[lunar hollow]

he can't even lift up a non-ultrathin laptop

if thats the case he should have plenty of sympathy

[spice veldt]

fake news

[cosmic sigil]

I have a lot of people quitting as soon they go down. Like the run is over...

[spice veldt]

happens a lot in my games as well

or there's a player that dies like 6 times and decides to leave after that

which is more understandable than the people who leave even though the other three players are alive

[lunar hollow]

normally when it happens i've just been rubberbanded around repeatedly

and went down due to things i can't control (bad ping, disconnect)

so at that point im not really in the mood to play a match that starts off with that

[cosmic sigil]

At least you can tell us.

Wrong reply

[spice veldt]

i'll tell you my sweet lies all day

[cosmic sigil]

At least Josho. You can tell others your game is crashing. I quit if I think a bot will be better than me...

But like quitting whereas 3 are still alive? Lol wut. Even If there's 1 or 2 you can stay 5 minutes to encourage the survivor(s)

[lunar hollow]

meh

if i start a match and immediately get ping issues it never gets better

so uh

adios y'know

[cosmic sigil]

Fair I'd say

So turns out spamming slide dodge instead of just dodging in melee was a bad idea.

[lunar hollow]

what lead u to this conclusion

[spice veldt]

F

[cosmic sigil]

Damage taken

[burnt maple]

Was there a comm link today?

[spice veldt]

prob took a potshot from a bruiser that popped up from behind while dodge-sliding

[burnt maple]

And did we get anything cool

[spice veldt]

not that I would ever know

[lunar hollow]

i never dodge-slide in melee

[spice veldt]

rip 64 hp

[lunar hollow]

one too many times where i have kinda just headbutted some poxwalker in the stomach

and am now completely stationary for a mauler overhead

[spice veldt]

i dodge-slide if I'm also throwing in pushes to stagger enemies

[cosmic sigil]

I keybinded crouch and dodge on the same mouse button

So I was slide dodging a lot

And was all over the place.

[lunar hollow]

i've browbeat myself into slide dodging only when actually necessary to avoid damage

too many ledges i forget are ledges

[cosmic sigil]

But it feels like I trained in the hardest conditions tbh. Like son goku

I think i divided my damage taken by 3 or 4

Lowest has been 91 in lo int. Yesterday I could have finished around 51 in regular.

[vague quail]

Guys is this a good deimos?

[elfin nexus]

stats are good but you want slaughterer as a blessing

you could swap riposte and make it work

perks arent great either

[olive ember]

base stats are good everything else is bad

hadron almost couldn't have bricked that sword harder

[vague quail]

or could she?

[tropic vigil]

the blessings kind of brick it. i would replace it eventually but i would recommend swapping melee crit damage for flak, then swap riposte into slaughterer if you have.

[feral verge]

It's bad

Weakspot and crit damage are bad perks. Pretty much add no meaningful damage. Blazing spirit is a meme (it does no damage and everything dies before it actually gets set on fire), riposte is not very easy to proc

You want maniac (priority 1) and flak damage for perks

And slaughterer (priority 1) and unstable power or deflector for blessings

[smoky wigeon]

Does that feat where you gain toughness by peril quelled - doess that mean ONLY when you hold R?