Shoots good
#psyker-class
white sky
harsh urchin
they just need to nerf PF/slaught/ht
numberwise
and bam, everything's in-line again
calm sapphire
Lore accurate for ogryn to outperform a puny umie
spice veldt
brumo, trauma, purg, flamer
ember hornet
you mean meta like Achlys
harsh urchin
oh yeah, what are the heat breakpoints for unstable dmg?
elfin nexus
Lore accurate for ogryn to outperform a puny umie
i wish i could play with these high dps ogryns
the only ones i get are shield slabs
once in a blue moon you get a bull butcher main and i breathe a sigh of relief
ember hornet
the only high dps ogryn is a BB ogryn
feral verge
the only ones i get are shield slabs
Do what I do, and leave a lobby if it has a shieldgryn lmao
calm sapphire
i wish i could play with these high dps ogryns
solution: play shock troop and u will find one eventually
lunar hollow
ember hornet
ogryn melee is in such a sad state
feral verge
If it's a regular damnation I might stay
lunar hollow
bull butcher + mk 2 ripper = nothing exists on the screen
candid lava
We try to inform the new pals, we really do...
It's a phase. Like a dagger zealot. It feels likeyou're doing something...
It takes time to get around it and find out more about the game.
feral verge
But if it's hi5/shocktroop I'm leaving
lunar hollow
geralt only got kills because he played like a vulture and would do 10% total damage to an enemy and steal my kill
feral verge
If a shieldgryn is in that mode then they have no clue what they're doing
candid lava
ogryn melee is in such a sad state
You tell'em! We need more toys and buffs. Not nerfs... π¦
lunar hollow
fuckin gremlin autopistols
ember hornet
I'm fine to carry 2 bad players in hi5, but shield in shock, no thanks
calm sapphire
You tell'em! We need more toys and buffs. Not nerfs... π¦
it'd just be better if they buff stuff more instead of nerfing
candid lava
fuckin gremlin autopistols
kill faster smh
ember hornet
cause half the fucking shield players also RUMBLER SPAM
harsh urchin
i love rumbler
feral verge
If you see a shieldgryn in damnation you can make a lot of assumptions. You can assume that they have minimal to no game knowledge
harsh urchin
i think it's one of the most fun weapons in the game for me
calm sapphire
If you see a shieldgryn in damnation you can make a lot of assumptions. You can ...
lies
ember hornet
rumbler is both funny and terrible, particularly terrible in the hands of a shield ogryn
lunar hollow
rumbler is honestly super cool if like
harsh urchin
i wish there was a way to make it oneshot the relevant specials
lunar hollow
u use it right
candid lava
cause half the fucking shield players also RUMBLER SPAM
gorgo mate, shield and gorgo. Only spam the stubb, take most of the ammo and only use the shield to stand and block when there's too much incomming fire...
lunar hollow
but u have to have people who have good ranged weapons
who can make use of everything in a certain area being on the floor
ember hornet
gorgo mate, shield and gorgo. Only spam the stubb, take most of the ammo and onl...
oh do I have a screenshot for you
cosmic sigil
If a shieldgryn is in that mode then they have no clue what they're doing
I did a hi5sg with a shieldgryn π¬
harsh urchin
yep pretty much you need ppl to be able to kill snipers and shooters
harsh urchin
i do wish they made rumbler oneshot the relevant specials on a direct hit tho
lunar hollow
my problem with rumbler is that like
limber silo
how tf do you fight chaos spawn?
lunar hollow
why would i shoot it
when i could just use unstoppable bull charge
and knock everything over
feral verge
Shield could be a lot better if it actually attracted enemy fire
harsh urchin
how tf do you fight chaos spawn?
dodge it's attacks and deal damage to it.
calm sapphire
how tf do you fight chaos spawn?
kite it if u draw agro and melee n shoot if u dont have agro
simple
spice veldt
dodge it's attacks and deal damage to it.
preemptively hold your block before it starts its combos
unless you have god-tier reaction time
candid lava
Rumbler is a tool more than anything. It has great utility and can stack some solid damage.
But it's not straightforward and takes some knowledge to utilize. Like any tool.
feral verge
But it doesn't, to my knowledge. It doesn't actually draw fire away from the team
spice veldt
the first hit of their multi-hit combos will almost always catch you even if you're dodging
limber silo
well I was last man standing as zealot and couldn't get a hit in
lunar hollow
1v1ing a chaos spawn is pretty hard
spice veldt
the rest of their hits and the other combos, you can dodge
limber silo
also how do you kite it if it's faster than me?
crystal jolt
how tf do you fight chaos spawn?
i usually just block + backpedal if it's targetting me.
spice veldt
spam the ever living crap out of your dodges
lunar hollow
but u can basically take no damage
harsh urchin
dodge slide to the side or to the back
limber silo
what way do I dodge? It seems to hit everywhere
candid lava
also how do you kite it if it's faster than me?
dodging and map elevations help, but it's hard
harsh urchin
gives you further distance
white sky
how tf do you fight chaos spawn?
Block with force sword, infinitely dodge backwards, that mf still hasn't touched me
harsh urchin
make sure you slide
calm sapphire
also how do you kite it if it's faster than me?
u just gotta learn its pattern so u know when to melee and not to
limber silo
okay, so basically I was fucked because I was last man, on a flat surface with a reaper chewing up my ass?
spice veldt
dodging backwards and sideways usually works as long as it's not the first hit
it can be a bit random
feral verge
I slide dodge diagonally backwards, and the chaos spawn rarely hits me
candid lava
418/419 ... damn
ember hornet
490
feral verge
I've never even memorized it's patterns
ember hornet
this motherfucker
candid lava
ohyeah
ember hornet
did this on sniper gauntlet
candid lava
π
limber silo
Well I can't seem to understand them either because they move too damn fast
candid lava
this pal
ember hornet
the whole team died to snipers
cosmic sigil
I slide dodge diagonally backwards, and the chaos spawn rarely hits me
Same. Then I hit a piece of furniture.
ember hornet
and I was left alive with 0/0 ammo
limber silo
Does it even have a weakpoint? Idk what I'm looking at when I see hem
candid lava
Well I can't seem to understand them either because they move too damn fast
It's more like catching a rhythm than actually reacting...
candid lava
Humans are great at predicting, not so good at reacting.
feral verge
Tips: despawn objects
harsh urchin
also: don't get greedy
feral verge
You're welcome
harsh urchin
most of the time people get hit is because they try to sneak in another hit instead of blocking
limber silo
I just feel like if I block it eats me and if I swing it swings harder
ember hornet
most of the time people get hit is because they try to sneak in another hit inst...
actual hammer zealot strategy for more bonks per second
white sky
When the monster is aggro'd on you it simply isn't your turn to do damage, don't be greedy imo
harsh urchin
i should make a hammer
spice veldt
here's a video of crab 1v1ing the chaos spawn as a rashad vet #zealot-class message
cosmic sigil
It's because I do too much damage and I aggro the thing too fast. Also... No more thammer zealots now π¦
limber silo
Ik that I should be asking zealot channel, but I'm a psyker main and we're almost always on topic
ember hornet
It's because I do too much damage and I aggro the thing too fast. Also... No mor...
did people really stop using it after thrust fix?
cosmic sigil
I see a lot less thammers yeab
crystal jolt
i had a hammer zealot die to a host he aggroed on purpose on hi int damn the other day.
limber silo
Okay, I think I understand better after that video
crystal jolt
it was funny
white sky
Zealots and being incredibly fickle, name a better combo
limber silo
@viral solstice You're the bomb homie
ember hornet
Zealots and being incredibly fickle, name a better combo
psword vets
ember hornet
psword vets
crystal jolt
Zealots and being incredibly fickle, name a better combo
impossible
spice veldt
oh yeah, what are the heat breakpoints for unstable dmg?
for illisi's special heavy, with 4 warp charges, warp unleashed, max t4 slaughterer stacks, and t4 unstable power, 40% peril is enough to one-shot bodyshot groaners with the minimum cleave damage if the damage stat on your illisi is high enough
agile garden
For perks on this Mk V duelling sword i have +carapace and +poxwalker. which would you replace with maniac?
harsh urchin
for illisi's special heavy, with 4 warp charges, warp unleashed, max t4 slaughte...
what's the cleave values?
spice veldt
10.5 cleave for the light and heavy when activated
harsh urchin
so everything up to the 10.5 will get cleared?
harsh urchin
I do definitely feel it lmao
spice veldt
a bit more if you account for unstable power's contribution
so yeah, you have the ability to one-shot 20+ groaners
harsh urchin
unstable is 20/40/60/80/100?
harsh urchin
ah so 20% max
lunar hollow
nothing is more satisfying than chaining rager 1 shots with max slaughterer/unstable power stacks
harsh urchin
ye it's great lmao
lunar hollow
pure joy
harsh urchin
I'm expecting them to bring slaught down to 20-30%
to make it more in-line with the other stuff
this is the one I'm using rn
spice veldt
with +infested along with the aforementioned illisi and 4 warp charges, you can one-shot weakspot poxwalkers at 60% peril if you have +infested with the minimum cleave weakspot damage, though getting weakspots across all targets is quite a bit harder
god damn
lunar hollow
i cant find t4 unstable π
pine relic
These trash perks ruined my day
cosmic sigil
I just discovered exorcist is not like other on hit blessings
harsh urchin
extract time
cosmic sigil
But my exorcist quietude is hiSG approved π¦
spice veldt
this sword is proper disappointment
harsh urchin
yeah the numbers on slaught are super overtuned LOL
pine relic
Even unarmoured is better than the sprint efficiency or crit chance.
spice veldt
no
clearly comparable
with an also comparable kill condition
any kills vs specifically elite kills
10/10
lunar hollow
yeah, it can't proc multiple times in a single swing
does it even matter? the only use for it would be spamming special hits at max peril
harsh urchin
any kills vs specifically elite kills
maybe the intern meant to swap them
lunar hollow
at least on illisi
harsh urchin
but he fucked up
spice veldt
does it even matter? the only use for it would be spamming special hits at max p...
imagine a 0% warp res illisi
that's like 20% toughness per swing
restive slate
Is Superiority blessing viable?
harsh urchin
not yet
lunar hollow
no
harsh urchin
maybe in 2024
spice veldt
Is Superiority blessing viable?
no π’
restive slate
Ah, more trash to increase rng to get meta blessings
lunar hollow
that's like 20% toughness per swing
isnt this basically just accomplished via warp absorption
if u want that
spice veldt
well, the benefit is that you get to run quietitude and have some burst toughness regen
lunar hollow
im not particularly fond of blessings basically doing the same thing as feats
spice veldt
though you get that by just murdering with the illisi anyways
harsh urchin
it's banked toughness
lunar hollow
thats shitty game design
cosmic sigil
does it even matter? the only use for it would be spamming special hits at max p...
It doesn't proce on special. So what I do is activate heavy, heavy or light spam / activate again to go beyond 80 and so on. But i was pretty sure it worked on multiple hit π¦
spice veldt
repeated/chained blessings don't count multiple hits on the first swing
for some god damn reason
spice veldt
and exorcist is distinct from other repeated/chained blessings in that even the 2nd+ swings don't proc multiple times when hitting multiple weakspots
which is even more of a fucking scam
cosmic sigil
I run unstable with warp absorption on the other hand. Because I will spam special as much as I can
lunar hollow
really it should only be 1 stack per swing on stuff like that
deci being instantly stacked after the 2nd swing in a horde is stupid
and makes it a twice as good headtaker with marginally stricter requirements
restive slate
Decimator vs Headtaker?
lunar hollow
but alas most blessings are poorly thought out
restive slate
Wowza
lunar hollow
the most useless curio i've ever laid eyes on
spice veldt
you're useless (except as a femboy)
harsh urchin
you're useless josho
feral verge
It's ok
harsh urchin
keke
lunar hollow
you're useless (except as a femboy)
u said u wouldnt say bad stuff about me wtf...
π
harsh urchin
I think I reroll the cooldown reduction
restive slate
You are josholess
lunar hollow
men are pigs
harsh urchin
into toughness regen
spice veldt
u said u wouldnt say bad stuff about me wtf...
it's not bad since your only worth is as a femboy
lunar hollow
it's not bad since your only worth is as a femboy
it is definitely bad and hurts my feelings π¦
spice veldt
i'm sure you'll get over it
restive slate
Femboys have feelings?
spice veldt
apparently this one does
harsh urchin
alright arco
restive slate
Fake femboy
spice veldt
Fake femboy
real in my heart
restive slate
Awwwee
harsh urchin
do we ever think dueling swords are gonna get the HS treatment
should i grab this shred4 uncanny4 dueling sword
lunar hollow
i'm sure you'll get over it
wtf
harsh urchin
that's in my melk
lunar hollow
ur mean
harsh urchin
here lemme show you
spice veldt
because the deimos feels like a change or advancement in their melee damage philosophy
having abnormally high damage modifiers on certain attacks
lunar hollow
deimos is a good weapon
it has a moveset that isnt lmb spam
and requires a bit of brain
spice veldt
evis does too
lock yourself into a closet
a soundproof closet
preferable with no oxygen inside
lunar hollow
evis doesnt reward u for proper use of moveset
lunar hollow
lock yourself into a closet
only if u join me
restive slate
I like to light1 spam for deimos
spice veldt
π³
harsh urchin
tru but it does have a cool moveset
despite it not doing anything
idk i think tigrus is probably doomed
lunar hollow
evis would be cool if like
restive slate
only if u join me
Gonna need to record this
lunar hollow
it basically always killed targets 1-4 or so
with heavies
but had like the shit cleave it does now
restive slate
Does revving increase cleave?
lunar hollow
and the falloff on cleave damage is a cleave
lunar hollow
Does revving increase cleave?
its supposed to
but they broke the damage profiles
so targets 5-8 take no damage
restive slate
Emphasis on "supposed" haha
lunar hollow
while 1-4 and 9+ take damage as normal
which basically cuts ur effective damage on hordes in half when using the rev
lunar hollow
which is REALLY fucking bad
restive slate
Knocking enemies down without killing as much as Crusher I see
harsh urchin
this thing will be juiced af if they one day buff it
lunar hollow
i always have hopium when ur around bb
spice veldt
π³ π³ π³ π³
restive slate
What if... Duelling Swords also get unlimited dodge?
harsh urchin
i always have hopium when ur around bb
same bb
spice veldt
i think duelling swords are always going to have some of their eggs put into the mobility basket, which might be what you want
I personally don't care for mobility too much
restive slate
i always have hopium when ur around bb
Imagine if you said "milk bottles" instead of "hopium"
agile garden
i was just thinking about a rampage shred build on a dueling sword
lunar hollow
Imagine if you said "milk bottles" instead of "hopium"
thats what im hoping for
smh
restive slate
Femboy Almond Nut Milk
harsh urchin
just wait
harsh urchin
i think duelling swords are always going to have some of their eggs put into the...
oh i def will recraft it if it happens
but idk if it'll happen lmao
i think it might, cuz they generally care more about the class exclusive weapons
than the weapon types that everyone can use
like recon lasgun
but if it doesn't w/e
restive slate
What would recon need to be better? More ammo? More weakspot damage? Higher crit chance?
harsh urchin
(e) all of the above
restive slate
Hah!
wet belfry
I always thought the recon to begin with was just very boring in its design
It has little to no recoil and is a gun that shoots super fast, effective at long ranges.
spice veldt
the recoil on other guns isn't that bad enough for the ease of use that recon lasguns have to outweigh their shitty ass damage
wet belfry
If the recons actually were good they would be one of the lamest and easiest weapons in the game to use.
spice veldt
though another part of their downsides is the total lack of stagger, which does matter a bit
restive slate
Lasweapons aren't known for stagger anyway
Infantry Lasguns usually headshot targets so quickly and Helbores charge shot everything
vernal frost
Lasweapons aren't known for stagger anyway
idk about that
I pushed away a poxbomber once from my teammate with my xii lol
harsh orchid
what
mental rock
white sky
@lunar hollow this you?
silver root
is terrifying barage not working right now?
white sky
i just saw the name and then the dude vanished from reality
was like "holy shit small world"
polar grail
my psyker is named villan, those look like vet cosmetics
Guess ive seen you before unless it was another psyker
lunar hollow
lol
azure oar
sour olive
is it just me or they nerfed ascending blaze range
I didnt see anything on the patch but it definitely feels shorter than expected on my last two games
pine relic
This is the third surge staff I got with sprint efficiency
polar grail
They want you to go fast
cold geode
then change it to flak
steel flame
god today was just the worst day of work ever
signal merlin
is executor even good
the buff only lasts like half a second
even mid swing sometimes
spice veldt
it's a Repeated Weakspot Hit condition, meaning that it drops if...
- Waiting too long such that your attack chain resets
- Missing your hit (either not hitting a weakspot or hitting nothing)
- Blocking (and thus pushing/push-attacking)
- Swapping to another weapon
elfin nexus
is recon lasgun good on psyker? ive got one with dumdum and deathspitter t4 im wondering if its viable with kinetic flayer or something
lunar hollow
no
lunar hollow
its a depressing weapon and no amount of fuckery with builds can make it good
elfin nexus
my funny lasgun dreams are dead
vernal arrow
What weapons/build works well for Quietude? I heard some people really liked it for their toughness regen perk but wasn't super thrilled with it
elfin nexus
any build where youre quelling peril constantly
vernal arrow
is recon lasgun good on psyker? ive got one with dumdum and deathspitter t4 im w...
I just keep getting these things
spice veldt
Trauma and low warp res force swords/Illisi work well with Quietitude
vernal arrow
Don't people usually run the perk that boosts damage with the high peril though? Or is the idea that you just keep bouncing up and down with your peril?
spice veldt
quietitude is not too great for regenning toughness during engagements and out of cover
elfin nexus
yea you have to edge your force sword
spice veldt
but its performance is consistent regardless of the enemy that you are facing (for better or worse) compared to the other toughness regen feats
you might also have a high peril style where you effectively have 50% toughness banked from your peril
vernal arrow
Aaah that's fair. Thing I'd stick with Warp Absorption for the Illisi then since it's special is a nice bump if you swing it in a hordes direction
spice veldt
I like quietitude for regenning back to 100% toughness before initiating engagements since I tend to roam alone and out of coherency
and illisi is usually good enough for any burst toughness that I need
though it certainly hurts to not have 20% toughness regen per special kill when diving ranged enemies
vernal arrow
Oh yeah. I love how good the regen Warp Absorption can be. Can suck sometimes with the Surge staff since it doesn't always get the confirmed kill
elfin nexus
based
cyan moth
i kinda wanna change uncanny strike out for something
lunar hollow
a more reliable choice would be unstable power
cyan moth
Don't got it sadly
oh hey
i just found one lmfao
weakspot damage to what you think?
@lunar hollow
lunar hollow
uhhh
cyan moth
or should I keep weakspot
lunar hollow
probably flak? not sure on breakpoints for deimos
weakspot is very sad unfortunately
u won't get like any use out of it ever
cyan moth
:(
lunar hollow
its only 10% to the additional damage, not total
so if u do 120 base and 120 extra weakspot you do 252 total
with 10% weakspot
unless my math is wrong
cyan moth
thank you 
vernal arrow
so if u do 120 base and 120 extra weakspot you do 252 total
Oh yikes
sick isle
WHICH ONE OF YOU NERD IS THIS
lyric burrow
its a depressing weapon and no amount of fuckery with builds can make it good
i tried it on vet, thinking it couldnt be that bad
its that bad
i was in actual pain
viral solstice
<@143474653497786368> You're the bomb homie
no ur the bomb... cos that booty like pow
wait wat
thick carbon
WHICH ONE OF YOU NERD IS THIS
wouldnt be surprised if it were me
also, is bloodthirsty any good on the force swords?
lyric burrow
i havent found a great build with it
it just feels uneccasary a lot of the time
you can run the meme build with iliisi + blazing
you might be able to make a fun build with it on deimos but that requires landing the special whenver you wanna proc it
and H2 already kills everything
maybe unstable power + bloodthirsty on illisi so that your using specials anyway
thick carbon
or proc it on an ad and then use in on a special/elite
lyric burrow
yeah that works
although ngl i already one shot most elites with illisi with just slaughterer unstable
probably dont even need both tbh
lunar hollow
theres basically 0 reason to not run slaughterer unless ur intentionally handicapping yourself
full stacks of slaughterer 1 shots both mutants and ragers
which is pretty nice
lunar hollow
you may need maniac for it
lyric burrow
er maniac
lunar hollow
but i did it with t3 slaughterer and unstable
lyric burrow
lol
lunar hollow
so if you have t4 of both it should still work
sick isle
wouldnt be surprised if it were me
Were you using a surge staff that you were doing rapid fire on, just a few mins ago?
lyric burrow
so if you have t4 of both it should still work
slaughterer is a fair and balanced blessing
lunar hollow
truly
lyric burrow
i feel like im cheating with that blessing
but illisi with it on simply feels too good to not use
lunar hollow
thick carbon
I have t4 on my main psyker, but I dont wanna surrender that sword to get the blessing :(
lyric burrow
can you change the other blessing
thick carbon
yes. I have a second psyker though that I've been leveling cuz I don't like how much of a meanie my main one is :(
lunar hollow
i had to get rid of my godroll obscurus i got right before the illisi dropped
to get t4 slaughterer
it was sad
thick carbon
rip
lyric burrow
having to get rid of a good weapon always hurts
lunar hollow
the problem is that like
lyric burrow
might never see that roll again
lunar hollow
grinding shit on psyker is just pain
force sword is up there with like thammer and psword
for having a shit ton of blessings that do fuck all
lyric burrow
yeah i def got my fair share of terrifying/surge/blazing
on stuff idc about it on
which is all of them
lyric burrow
thankfully i like playing psyker enough to struggle through the RNG
helps i have all my staves where i want them
lunar hollow
i play all the classes sort of equally and just rotate through them
lunar hollow
my other 3 classes combined have more levels ok
spice veldt
smh psyker having the lowest level
sick isle
But you dont compete with the +800 psyker i justvplayed with
lunar hollow
my total level is around like
sick isle
Just uninstall already
lunar hollow
710-ish
spice veldt
Just uninstall already
ikr smh smh
lunar hollow
last time i did the math
im simply hiding my power level by distributing it between the classes
spice veldt
717 yeah
lunar hollow
did u just do the math
spice veldt
yeah i did it with the power of magic
lyric burrow
lunar hollow
we need to get u to have hobbies that dont involve a fuckin calculator all u do is math
lyric burrow
i am not as balanced
lunar hollow
@spice veldt what are u testing now bitch
sick isle
Dont talk about doin math josho. Mr counts bulwark GG specials to kill
spice veldt
i'm about to flex
lunar hollow
shut up
that was a real ogryn science moment
i was desperately trying to make the punch have any kind of utility outside of epicenter memes
sick isle
Ogryn science is eating muties and poxhounds, and getting worms
lunar hollow
i'm about to flex
what does that mean
spice veldt
lyric burrow
hey that punch is godly on malice '
lunar hollow
o
lyric burrow
rip ogryn lol
sick isle
Okay, new highest iv seen
spice veldt
darcy has a 1.1k vet iirc
sick isle
Whats yalls playtimes at
sick isle
Suure
spice veldt
lunar hollow
yea
spice veldt
i spend a lot of time in the meatgrinder or accidentally leave the game on
sick isle
Suuuuure
spice veldt
darcy had 700 hours for 1.1k levels apparently
fluid knot
hey that punch is godly on malice '
Shovel punch best punch and i wont hear anything else
lyric burrow
the club slap tho?
fluid knot
Also yes
elfin nexus
slapping hounds and snipers is so based
lyric burrow
Whats yalls playtimes at
432
fluid knot
Any move that lets you actually bully stuff has intrinsic value and even if it didnt have value its fuckin hilarioous
lyric burrow
i feel like 432 is very low for this discord
fluid knot
Its mid
lyric burrow
granted i only really started grinding a bit after tools of war
fluid knot
If you take in the entire population of the discord its average is probably not that high
lyric burrow
april was when i started playing everyday
fluid knot
Some of us need to touch more grass tho for sure
fluid knot
april was when i started playing everyday
Wait you racked up 400 since april?
Damn son
frozen osprey
did u just do the math
u should do the meth
lyric burrow
Wait you racked up 400 since april?
yeah the game clicked for me lol
i was playing like 70+ hours a week for a bit
fluid knot
Ye fair enough, once you get a taste for it, its very hard to find anything else that scratches the same itch
lyric burrow
found the discord too
sick isle
I turned my pc off, but i think im at 170ish
fluid knot
Which makes the overreliance on RNG a little bit weird i wont lie.. Like FS have a really good core gameplay loop here
Its as fun as L4D was way back in the day for those that remember
lyric burrow
yeah gameplay/graphics/atmosphere keep me playing
near wyvern
For perks on this Mk V duelling sword i have +carapace and +poxwalker. which wou...
Carapace should be replaced
lyric burrow
also enjoy the personality interactions
sick isle
Iv never been into hordeshooters before darktide tbh
fluid knot
also enjoy the personality interactions
Ngl the VA's knocked it out the park, its just a shame they werent given more room to flex their skills
lyric burrow
i agree
sick isle
Imagine if For The Emperor was baseline. Then we would have more voiceline goodies
fluid knot
Yep. Taunt key when FS 
lyric burrow
let me slap a sniper with ogryn and then taunt on him
fluid knot
That point when you box one from all the way across the map..
It needs a bit of mockery there
lyric burrow
i agree
also im 400+ hours in and found out you can overhand throw grenades
yesterday
i am simply illiterate
fluid knot
Oh you didnt realise you have two options? Eh, to be fair, you're not really gonna be lookin at the tooltip when playing
lyric burrow
i was bouncing them off walls and shit for distance till now π
yeah i got so used to doing RMB i assumed that LMB was just to throw it after readying
welp now i know
fluid knot
Always more to learn
lyric burrow
that explains why i couldnt get the sniper grenade penance with zealot
i was like how do you throw it that far
lyric burrow
Always more to learn
i will always appreciate learning things
fluid knot
Lmao, ye literally point and click pretty much
lyric burrow
yeah that checks out
cold geode
if you over hand throw, then use your F to run in the oppisite direction it increases your distance from the target so long as the grenade is in the air too
lyric burrow
oh the secret tech
steel flame
dat cheese tho
sick isle
Bleed knife/ infernus recon / purgatarus staff?
steel flame
in lue of a surge void staff ive repurposed my fire trauma for this meme. ill be able return it to normal afterwords
ive made a macro for spamming the m1
time for machinegun psyker
im gonna try and do a mission with just the m1 spam
and see what happens
fluid knot
I could be wrong here but is that not going to be more costly on peril than Surge/Void even when using LMB?
steel flame
hehe m1 go brrrr
nova dirge
just found out there are psykers in fallout too
steel flame
I could be wrong here but is that not going to be more costly on peril than Surg...
the m1 across surge, void and trauma is the exact same peril cost
hmmmmmm
i think this might actually be best on a surge staff
maybe this isnt such a meme after all π
aw
surge doesnt have surge
BOOO
DISAPOINTED
restive slate
Are you using a macro?
steel flame
i am
ima be real
i dont want to feel like killing myself
more proof of concept
i can do the animation cancel
but i really dont know if i can do it for an entire mission
compact cargo
fluid knot
the m1 across surge, void and trauma is the exact same peril cost
Arright nice, i wasnt sure about that at all, cheers for clarifying π
fluid knot
https://streamable.com/hej4n0
Its pretty fast, but i wonder how usable it actually is because of how the targeting works with M1
Like i always find its got a weird delay to it when moving, i guess you can adjust to that though
viral solstice
Its pretty fast, but i wonder how usable it actually is because of how the targe...
its very usable but the fast shooting is actually not really that useful
key thing is just
shooting enemies when they shoot at you because they don't move
it sounds stupid but its pinpoint accurate so the total number of kills you get is much more a function of taking the shots that are guaranteed than doing the hard stuff that varies with laten cy
fluid knot
I can count on one hand how often ive used the M1 attacks on those staves i wont lie to you Crab π
viral solstice
i use them a lot especially on certain maps with long range fites
i think on surge its actually legit good
because
ok this is a stupid feature of staves but look at the crit scaling
left click on all staves has nutty good crit damage
while right click blows
on surge u have crit chance and scaling + warp nexus
shit crits like 800-900 on weakspot on some targets
u can legit gun ppl down
i think with surge its kinda essential in some maps if u dont wanna just meme around sliding
fluid knot
I would agree with you its a bit more relevant on Surge because other than stunlocking dogs an muties the LMB attack on it suuuuucks
steel flame
youve got your stun on m2, then fuckin gun them down with surge m1
compact cargo
Just run the mk1 infantry gun
viral solstice
its also that surge has the crit scaling
that affects primary
and the primary is the only thing on staves that does any damage when it crits
its especially annoying on voidstrike
where both primary and secondary
are called "staff-bound blaze bolt"
and primary gets like finesse weakspot scaling and secondary does peepee
fluid knot
Eh, i love me Void secondary, funny peircing orb go brrr
steel flame
i thought making a macro for the m1 animation cancel might be a bit hard to pin down but i was able to just use a 1ms wait between inputs and the spam works perfectly
viral solstice
i mean i like it its just annoying to me theyre the same green blob and one crits hard and the other dont crit at all
steel flame
yeah.....
viral solstice
but yeah wiuth a decent surge staff w/ 25% flak u will hit 700-800 headshots on flak when u crit which is pretty dank
burnt maple
wait, are you saying the RMB on Voidstaff doesn't crit?
burnt maple
okay i was reading that wrong
viral solstice
crit chance not problem
steel flame
and crit damage is poo
burnt maple
lol great design fatshark
viral solstice
which is like enough to feel decent
really ur meant to surge it
but its still annoying
i wish the crits had inherent better aoe damage or something
would be a cool way to make it feel interesting
viral solstice
but yeah left click on voidstrike vs charge
crit on left click is like 2.5x damage crit on right click is 1.3
btw
note that a left click headshot is 380 damage a right click headshot crit is 460
so the more crit chance u have the better ur left mouse button spam gets vs cahrging
steel flame
man imagine if crits doubled trauma aoe
then i could set 2 zip codes on fire with blazing spirit
burnt maple
time to put Surge Blessing back in action
steel flame
mmmmmm
m1 alone is fine for some stuff
but i really need to get a surge void
this has been a very informative meme detour though
viral solstice
funny story
u know how blazing spirit on melee weapons
tells u it has a cap of 12
steel flame
yea
steel flame
yup
viral solstice
and they dont tell u
steel flame
aint that a bitch
viral solstice
and whats even funnier
its set per weapon
so they were like
we can set this for any of them
but we not gonna
u will take ur 6 staks
and u will LIKE it
steel flame
although if fire trauma was able to cap a 9 stacks it would be fuckin busted
viral solstice
i mean not really
it would be good
but trauma is only like
"ok"
it's a good weapon
but its not on the fucked up weapon tier list
getting 9 stacks of a dot on rnging a 30% crit for a charged up attack on the space wizard
is fine to me
because its not even that fucked up relative to the shit u can do on other classes
steel flame
ive been using blazing 3 nexus 4 trauma for the last 2 weeks and jesus christ it just fuckin shredds damnation, hi intensify and hi shocktroop
burnt maple
what blessings etc are you using in that clip?
steel flame
and thats just with 6 stacks
viral solstice
thats just surge
steel flame
if i had nine stacks plus another 4 from ab it would just delete the entire map
viral solstice
every weapon above 50% percentile shreds all the content in game
burnt maple
i thought Surge blessing didn't work on VS RMB
steel flame
even more than it already does
steel flame
what blessings etc are you using in that clip?
viral solstice
trauma is nowhere near the fucked up levels of the pinning fire weaps eg its just got a nice niche
burnt maple
someone here was saying that Surge blessing only works with the LMB
viral solstice
i thought Surge blessing didn't work on VS RMB
it does indeed idk where this started
steel flame
it works on rmb for void not trauma
viral solstice
i guess its because its trauma doesnt double proc
steel flame
trauma is nowhere near the fucked up levels of the pinning fire weaps eg its jus...
i actually find fire trauma way outclasses purge staff at purge staffs job
viral solstice
but voidstrike surge has worked since beta as far as i know
viral solstice
yeah but thats cos purg is extremely ok its just easy to use and has a niche
its like a limp flamer
it has nice consistent horde clear
u can use it while asleep
useful
fluid knot
Purge is the entry level psyker staff
Requires the least amount of work and mechanical knowledge to get results out of
white sky
Fire work good
burnt maple
it's also the most forgiving in terms of blessings, perks, and stats roll
viral solstice
trauma also has by far and away the easiest use pattern on high difficulties under ranged fire
because of sprint charging
whereas purg u kinda have to spray ur hand load
steel flame
while on the other hand fire trauma requires like all the fucking focus in the world to not blow yourself up with a misinput as you are frantically quell canceling as you set the entire map on fire
spice veldt
what a 64% quell speed trauma does to a mf
viral solstice
rather than a blessing
viral solstice
while on the other hand fire trauma requires like all the fucking focus in the w...
burnt maple
i assume you're just messing around with this but how often are you peril purging etc
viral solstice
if u have brain damage u can do that on voidstrike too
the secret is
when u get saved by the hand of god
u spit in his face and tell him ur life isnt his to give
burnt maple
warp nexus as a feat would be awesome
steel flame
i assume you're just messing around with this but how often are you peril purgin...
oh thats actually my fire trauma, i just slapped surge on it to try something
viral solstice
like i would rather have warp nexus on the same tier as warp unleashed
and then they give staves better blessings and baseline crit scaling
so they cant just crutch on warp nexus
but then again
spice veldt
battle meditation is such a nice passive https://streamable.com/k527da
viral solstice
battle meditation is such a nice passive https://streamable.com/k527da
some ppl just got the tech
steel flame
im sorry.
spice veldt
the 100% pre-planned battle meditation proc
burnt maple
what's fire trauma? trauma staff with Blazing Spirit?
steel flame
do you actually play without textures
spice veldt
impossible
spice veldt
do you actually play without textures
hey there are textures
viral solstice
what's fire trauma? trauma staff with Blazing Spirit?
yeee
steel flame
i wouldnt call those textures....
spice veldt
just that they're like 4x4
viral solstice
basically trauma doesnt really have any good blessings
so u just give it blazing spirit for more aoe damage and clear and let the baseline good properties work vs hard targets
spice veldt
i love my focused channeling
viral solstice
focused channeling
admitting to getting hit ever
literally never taken a point of damage, couldnt be me
spice veldt
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/WYcFxrITWpK5y/d1337pUYyRdz...
how did the dog die; just cuz voidstrike?
dafuq
viral solstice
i really do think they should give all staves non-damage based crit
so voidstrike has a proper grenade-style aoe with good falloff on crit, etc
so u want crit not as part of a damage calculation but a utility and feel one
but it ees wat it ees
steel flame
what's fire trauma? trauma staff with Blazing Spirit?
yeah i run this. if you can keep the peril up its kinda stupid just how much you can wipe from existence. its like a purge you can send halfway accross the world
spice veldt
"blaze" force swords when they don't set enemies on fire with crits by default π
viral solstice
the only force sword i have is a 545 tier 4 blazing spirit tier 4 unstable power obscurus
it just kinda hangs out
burnt maple
i'll have to check it out
just hang on to it. they'll remove the red locks. just you wait
steel flame
man i hope we get blazing spirit 4 on staves, and when they do they buff it to 12 stack cap so i can truly eclipse the purge staff in its entirety
viral solstice
oh i dont care about the locks its more i just want them to make blazing spirit cooler
imagine if blazing spirit made a fire explosion on special killo
yay
imagine if... game design
steel flame
imagine if blazing spirit made a fire explosion on special killo
hehe flayer wrack and ruin proc on a blazing sprite special kill explosion
viral solstice
i mean
unironically
make deimos and obscurus special count as a brain burst
bam
burnt maple
"hey can we stop by the VT2 team for crafting design?"
"we have crafting at home"
viral solstice
instantly - by itself - u have made those weapons have cooler special
steel flame
make deimos and obscurus special count as a brain burst
i think ive been saying that since the beta came out. only problem is they would have to super nerf warp charge economy. especially with quicken
viral solstice
i mena
why does it matter if u have loads of warp charges if u have quicken
u can spam aoe knockdown? i mean ehh
burnt maple
i want ogryn to be able to pick up and throw heretics instead of a grenade
viral solstice
and even then if ur banking on getting 2 warp charges off a melee lock single target special kill
again thats like
such a "i got no beed with this" thing to me
steel flame
if its only on special kills it gets a warp charge id say hell yeah
spice veldt
warp charges themselves aren't really too strong anyways
and the tradeoffs that you need to make to passively maintain them aren't that much (e.g., lvl 25 feat line)
spice veldt
the warp charge system there is just kinda there
viral solstice
what they should have done
from the beginning
is make the staves have a special that lets u power them up using warp charges
instead of the melee
so u can have really powerful magic attacks that are resource limited
not peril limited
but its not like they had time to iterate so
imo the major issue the staves have is that they are infinite ammo weapons they balanced super low damage
so the peril limit felt trash
so they essentially made peril a non-issue
but it would have been way better to give you a way to use them as a way to dump excess warp charge gen and remove the warp charge passive damage
because rn spending warp charges is in and of itself a tricky thing to balance because u lose so much damage if u dump 6 wcs
spice veldt
and god forbid if you run inner tranquility
viral solstice
but this is all a different class at this point so
like to me thats the major failing of the psyker staves
burnt maple
i can only guess they'll do something like that if we ever get subclasses
viral solstice
ur a space wizard and ur fireball is pretty much a zombie killer only
unless u sweat real hard to optimise
whereas
steel flame
u can spam aoe knockdown? i mean ehh
oh i dont give a shit about the knockdown, its the stupid magnitudes of toughness regen i could achieve with spamming specials on FS an spamming 7 second ults and litterally never die as all damage gets regened instantly
viral solstice
ok heres a question
how much damage do u think
i mean thats less toughness regen
than a vet has with confirmed kill
burnt maple
that's the biggest drawback of the Voidstrike, it just doesn't do enough damage to flatten specials fast enough
viral solstice
ignoring the 75% toughness dr
spice veldt
you're still going to get locked down with the FS special
viral solstice
its not a problem
like ur insta regenning toughness on a 150 toughness class without good toughness dr its gucci if thats enough to keep u alive good
because ur having to work hard
use melee lock specials
have enemies nearby to farm etc
u know thats like
really some of the least degen fast toughness regen in the game lol
like u always have to remember confirmed kill
if ur ever worried about it
steel flame
ima go to bed before the conspiracys keep me up all night
viral solstice
u wanna hear a real conspiracy
how much damage does a laspistol headshot crit from a vet do on a reaper during f
spice veldt
1
viral solstice
steel flame
a fucking lot
cosmic sigil
like to me thats the major failing of the psyker staves
purgatus is worse flamer, void worse plasma, surge... at least there's trauma no?
viral solstice
gotta keep the voidstrike under control
or it might hit laspistol damage
void is more weird cos plasma is a hard single target elite killer while void is basically a trash deleter
and also aoe cc machine
because of the suppression on kill
one voidstrike kill = every shooter in 20m stops shooting
immediately
but ppl dont really thonk about it
very useful on certain maps tho
their ai is active btw
but broadly rn horde control and killing shooters isnt important
high difficulty is literally one mode - hishock - andthe only thing that really u need is specialist killing and dealing with hard targets to avoid getting overwhelmed
which is very much not what voidstrike excels at
and since people have actually learned how the game works since launch ranged trash is no longer the thing people struggle with
steel flame
see thats why i like fire trauma, i can lock down fuckin everything while at the same time also setting the map on fire
viral solstice
also horde control is too easy in general
steel flame
multitasking at its finest
viral solstice
like every class has a jokes horde clear weapon
illisi, heavy sword, pc power sword, bull butcher
and thats the other thing if ur playing hishock u can bring ur voidstrike and it doesnt matter beacuse hey
the illisi is better at basically everything other than long ranged plinking
spice veldt
:)
viral solstice
im kind of a big deal in the frog world
spice veldt
i shall traverse the whole earth
fluid knot
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/12Y6GTsWlK9eG6/d1337gq07rX...
Fair and balanced what you talkin bout?
inland sand
is Wrack and Ruin worth it over the other talents on that row for Purgatus?
it feels more buffed than the last time I read it
elfin nexus
unfortunately your choice is either warp unleashed which gives you +25% damage on all your weapons including brain burst or some soulblaze stacks occasionally
you can take it but i think you lose out on some breakpoints like oneshotting ragers with bb on damnation
inland sand
that doesn't bother me as i mainly play Trauma staff and u don't take the 25% damage talent on that so u miss out on the 1shot BB
it's more just if the soulblaze stacks are worth it over the other 2 for Purgatus
historically I've run tranquility
fluid knot
is Wrack and Ruin worth it over the other talents on that row for Purgatus?
It was for a very short duration, then they tweaked other stuff which invalidated it rather sharply, but unless you really need the extra chance of warp charges from Ascendent, there are indeed better options
inland sand
It was for a very short duration, then they tweaked other stuff which invalidate...
just tested it and yeah, i just wanted the extra damage lol XD
ty!
fluid knot
Ney bother π
inland sand
is ur Psyker's name Nadia?
fluid knot
It is sir yes π
inland sand
did we play together last night?
I was Ollanius
Vet
had a couple of GGs on Chasm Logistratum and Archivum Sycorax
fluid knot
Prehaps, i was uttely shagged last night so hazy memory π
We have played together before tho, im in yer discord aint i
(Is Vermin)
fluid knot
Ye all good pal π yourself?
inland sand
I definitely played with a Nadia last night
yeah not bad, was a couple of late games but super smooth
everyone played well
fluid knot
I have seen a couple of others about, so mayhaps been me, mayhaps another
Excellent, thats what you want right there
inland sand
i had about a 3-4 week break from Darktide, mad burnout
feeling more positive about it now
looking forward to making some vids again
managed a duo run after like 30 tries, admittedly only Hab Drako but it was a start!
fluid knot
Yeah thats understandable tbh mate, a number of folks have had the same it seems of late
inland sand
kind of makes sesne, feels like a bit of a limbo period as well
fluid knot
An its certainly improves too, look forward to more content. Oh sick man, you gonna upload the raw gameplay?
inland sand
new levels and stuff aside
fluid knot
Oh yeah it certainly is
inland sand
i didn't record ;_;
but yeah I would like to put one up
duos are fun but dogs are terrifying lol
fluid knot
Ahh, well if you can do it once, you can do it twice ey. Oh yeah.. dogs an trappers both tbf
And to a certain extent muties because of how easily they can seperate you
fluid knot
Might hop back on shortly, weather isnt so absurdly hot as it was yesterday so the machine wont struggle so much π
inland sand
mate same here
in my pants right now sweating out every last ounce of liquid in my body
can imagine the van is toasty
fluid knot
feels, its been ridiculous these last few days, starting to wonder if we'll get that 40c temps again this year, only gonna be hotter through august innit
Yeah mate.. the swamp ass is real π
fluid knot
Lmao yeah thats about the size of it.. whilst we complain here, i dread to think how bad its gonna get in equatorial regions in the next 20 years
near wyvern
*feels*, its been ridiculous these last few days, starting to wonder if we'll ge...
And here I am thinking I am gonna die when it's 28C
I guess I'll actually die at 40
fluid knot
And here I am thinking I am gonna die when it's 28C
Oh nah mate im in the same boat, anything above about 25 an its suffering
Find me somewhere thats 20c all year round an id be a happy bunny
inland sand
And here I am thinking I am gonna die when it's 28C
you are not alone brother
olive ember
Bruh my parents think 82 F (28 C) is too cold lmao
Legit got yelled at the other day cuz they thought I set the AC to 85 F instead of the typical 90 F (32 C)
olive ember
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
This is what happens with parents who came from hotter countries I guess
raven gate
being one myself, i get the concept. but still 28c is still ridiculous
olive ember
Yeah no they legit go βare you crazyβ if I set the AC to my preferred temp of like 80 or 83 F which is like what 26-28 C
raven gate
my advice: get a fan
one of these tall ones: https://www.amazon.com/Dreo-Velocity-Oscillating-Bladeless-DR-HTF007/dp/B09MKPDJRT/ref=sr_1_6?crid=25F139CFK6ZW2&keywords=fan&qid=1686658504&sprefix=fa%2Caps%2C334&sr=8-6
they are fairly quiet, and the air is fairly spreak out
olive ember
Oh yeah I have a fan
raven gate
taboo knife has just outted himself as a filthy xenos. we must purge
olive ember
Doesnβt help when home is like 88 F and then my PC makes my room in particular like 90+ F
But hey on the plus side Iβm never cold in my room during the winter
It can be like 20 F (thatβs negative something C) and I can still wear t shirts n shorts in my room
shadow onyx
i'm in tshirt at 9c
but again depend if the wind blow
if sea is near
mountain type climate
etc
can change al ot
even your fat change your tolerance to temperature
i mean caribbean climate is pretty cool because ocean is near and lot of fresh air despite sun hit hard
meanwhile in a big city like london or paris 35c +hit much harder
the concrete reflect sunray
- pollution
- crowd
raven gate
if u have problems with crowds, i recommend the illisi force sword
great crowd control
olive ember
if u have problems with crowds, i recommend the illisi force sword
great crowd c...
I'm sorry amigo, if you can't hard carry with a staff that will make any five enemies in the game stop what they are doing and stand there for a few seconds and take damage on top of it in the time it takes you to right click, left click, and then then R. that's the definition of a player issue. The only staff that matches it in versatility is the purgatus staff. The purgatus staff just has different enemies and situations it's weak again
If i'm running surge staff I rarely get into a situation where my whole team is dead, because I have the tools that stops all the specials that suprise wipe teams. When i am in that situation pressing my F key to push/light everything around me on fire and some slash/push with my Illsi typically gives me the breathing room to go back the dogs/trappers etc under control.
What I'm getting from this is you aren't super great at melee crowd control, and that's fine a lot of people aren't, and it's a learned skill. But that's not an issue with a surge staff. It's jsut an issue that you can kind of get around with staffs like the purgatus.
raven gate
i thought arcotash was the one known for essays
olive ember
He is
spice veldt
no I'm not
raven gate
no I'm not
no lying in the sharing circle
olive ember
Heβs also known as slow reaction time guy
Do YOU have arco reaction speeds?
π«΅
wanton terrace
For a surge force staff, which is the least important modifier?
warp resistance? peril?
cyan notch
i have to search for it again
cyan notch
Fanatical Obscurus Apologist, Devoted Malice Gamer, Hopeless Surge Buff Advocate, Notorious Spreader of Misinformation, Absurd Sayer of Random Wrong Stuff, Proud Giver of Bad Takes, Unapologetic Light Mode Enthusiast, Prolific Ignorer of Classes, Foolish Manual Perk Reroller
olive ember
cyan notch
a bit of quell and warp res
olive ember
Itβs kinda eh, cuz surge is kinda the same no matter what
Damage and crit is like mid on surge, and half the time you are using it without charging
cyan notch
70 warp res 70 quell rest 80 ez
olive ember
Lmao gl getting that god roll and then not having hadron fuck it up
cyan notch
wanton terrace
This was my best roll for now...will fo for a play
cyan notch
its ok theyre removing locks next week
bold tusk
how do you gun psyker?
olive ember
its ok theyre removing locks next week
If we cope hard enough
Itβll come tmrw
COPE HARDER GUYS COMON
olive ember
how do you gun psyker?
Take build of 3-1-2-1-3-3 and then take an autopistol with blaze away + pinning fire
????
Profit
Also bring an illisi that way you are running double bullshit weapons
raven gate
COPE HARDER GUYS COMON
i have no energy to cope. hadron had me grinding all night in her machine works and now im drained
cyan notch
