psyker-class

[smoky wigeon]

I dont understand damage

So my character level = items level and THAT = % on my weapon damage?

[safe crystal]

Character level = max stat distribution you can roll on a weapon, from a range of X to Y. Higher your level, the higher both of them get. There is a max roll of 80% on any stat, and low roll can be down to 1, even at level 30

Weapon damage stays as a static, which is modified by the stats on your weapons, usually damage, first target etc alter this

You can press V to inspect the weapon, and hover over the stats to see what they do

[formal ridge]

I make it a point to surge every poxburster and then brain burst it to keep my stacks up

[burnt maple]

it's okay in most situations, but i meant if you see another team mate going for it, let them do it, don't zap it

[smoky wigeon]

@safe crystal Thanks

So pretty much get to 30 ASAP! ROGER THAT SIR!

[cyan portal]

I prefer the slight variation of 322113, barrage into 1 shot elites can give it back as buff runs out to do it again.

[cosmic sigil]

Hsword have Headtaker... Which is roughly the same. And rampage gives more DMG because of Headtaker too.

[ember hornet]

hsword with headtaker + rampage is +160% damage

[cosmic sigil]

That's insane given the innate cleave.

Which is amped further

[ember hornet]

13.1 cleave on all attacks

with headtaker

[cosmic sigil]

On a 9 yeah.

[ember hornet]

yeah

otherwise 2 of the lights are like 6.5

[cosmic sigil]

Which is good

[ember hornet]

actually it's 5.8

not enough for more than 1 rager

meanwhile IX lights are 3 ragers

[cosmic sigil]

Let's give an overtuned sword with most efficient moveset totally broken blessings

No problem

At least you need to grind for powercycler and slaughterer on the psword

Even though you can do fine with BM instead

[ember hornet]

it's only overtuned cause the blessings

[cosmic sigil]

Kinda like the illisi I think. If you got slaughterer on it 90% of your problems are taken care of

[ember hornet]

bull butcher really good even without slaughterer though

I mean a psword is also good without slaughterer

same with illisi

but slaughterer just makes them busted

[cosmic sigil]

It's the give good weapons busted blessings. Meanwhile claw is crying in the corner with more impact blessings than a thammer

[ember hornet]

naw dude it's fine

illisi just becomes 242% illisi

no problem here

[cosmic sigil]

No problem at all.

Except I'm too excited and I blow myself up

[digital loom]

we ballin

just need the soup to change carapace to crit

melk gave me this today

not perfect but good enough

[steel flame]

Very nice

I need to look for some new stuff at some point. After I get my mint psyker of course

Sitting on about 17k plasteel but I don't know what I actually need or want to hunt for

[manic flint]

Hello

[austere sandal]

jesus wish this was on my vet

[placid sorrel]

balls of paaaain!

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-smile-ooooo-yeah-gif-14408539

[echo turtle]

After listening to yall talk up the deimos I gave it another swing tonight

liking the light 1 into Heavy 2, and I focused less on charge attacks and more on just normal fighting

I gotta say It's really nice

So, I upgraded a blue 375 and ended up with this

pretty happy about it

[minor verge]

after having talked up unstable power so much im a bit disappointed xd

jk banger of a sword

[echo turtle]

I got deflecto 4 natty

I dont have unstable 4 in my bank, just on an illisi

[minor verge]

im stuck with slaughter 2 on my deimos

really unlucky

[echo turtle]

time to roll up some new deimos

[minor verge]

so far

[echo turtle]

I have 2 deimos that rolled slaught 4 natty

[minor verge]

care to trade for uncanny xd

[echo turtle]

bahaha I acc9idently took a deimos with uncanny into my games thinking I had deflector

I gotta say, uncanny

what a let down

I have found high level swords roll slaughterer 4 a lot

or I have been lucky as

fuck

[placid sorrel]

deflectors are for grots! cries not having deflector yet

[echo turtle]

onces you run T5s you'll get all the blessings pretty fast

if not lvl 4, 3s

this was my first illisi I rolled up

[minor verge]

nah bro im getting 380 stat rating lasguns ._.

[echo turtle]

I got that grey from brunt

then rolled it up

damnation with mods gets like 30K + docks, and 600 plasteel

[steel flame]

AIGHT I SEE YOU MILK

[minor verge]

finesse could be a tad bit higher but sheeeesh

[steel flame]

not quite better than what i have already

but dam where you been hidin that

hows my drip?

[ornate hamlet]

This goes hard

[manic flint]

is there any specific good build for leveling? alot of guides require 30 and im im just at 22 now

[spice veldt]

probably just running communion in your lvl15 until you reach lvl25 where you can choose to pick kinetic flayer for warp charge maintenance instead

that's one of the things that would change as you level, whereas the other feat lines are mostly up to preference and your build

[manic flint]

kk ty

[smoky wigeon]

Is mobility usually ALWAYS the useless stat?

[spice veldt]

not always; e.g., you can afford to treat warp resistance as your dump stat on the force swords

especially on the deimos and obscurus where the special is more niche, and the utility of generating peril for feats like quietude, warp unleashed, etc. is more general and useful

perhaps less so on the illisi if you want to spam the special in any measure (spamming the special being pretty much the optimal way to use the weapon if you have the space to pull it off)

[manic flint]

@spice veldt what about staff? im finding purge hard to use

always needing ranged a ttack

[smoky wigeon]

I usually use Obscurus special for 1 hitting ragers and other specials

Is that the correct way to use it? and to get my peril up to keep that lil dmg boost on

[worn cypress]

purg feels pretty crappy until you start getting good ones (likely at 30)

[spice veldt]

yeah, deimos/obscurus' special has very good stagger and it's especially nice if you hit the one-shot breakpoint on them

just that you're likely to get hit if there's more than 1 or 2 unless you're dodge-sliding while using the special

[smoky wigeon]

Hm okay

[spice veldt]

getting close to ranged enemies is a bit of a problem

there are some unexplained movement mechanics that you might want to know; whenever you're dodging or sliding, you're basically in a state where no ranged attack can hit you

on lower difficulties, you can usually afford to just sprint-slide into enemies and not get your toughness peeled too hard

[smoky wigeon]

It SEEMED that way but I wasnt sure

Yeah im only lvl 17 and only doing Malice

trying to stack on %toughness on curios

Since I can regen that with my Warp attack on my sword

[spice veldt]

here's an example of this with a scab gunner with dodges and dodge-slides https://streamable.com/o4uty5

[steel flame]

aight how does this look?

[spice veldt]

besides putting you in a ranged dodge state of some sort, it also breaks the tracking of some enemies; Scab Gunners (as depicted above) are one of the enemies that don't have their tracking broken, so you'll still get immediately hit the moment you're out of your dodge

i'm not a fan of the hood, but I like the rest

the gloves for those outfits are always too thick for my preference

[halcyon root]

GET OUT OF HERE STALKER

[steel flame]

i like this outfit more than the one from the set

[spice veldt]

there's always voidstrike, but I personally don't like its performance and feel; maybe you'll find it better

[smoky wigeon]

Interesting,...

[spice veldt]

there's no particular staff that I'd say to be as good against ranged enemies as guns are

having either a stupid LMB bolt, a limited range on the secondary, or the secondary being a charge and thus having zero reactivity and constant downtime between your shots

[manic flint]

if voidstrike is the one that charges up that ball

i do ike that alot

i do enjoy BB alot as well

[crimson dust]

should i hold off for slaughterer iv?

[steel flame]

id say yes

[left basin]

deflector iv

https://tenor.com/view/sobbing-gif-sobbing-uoooh-gif-24612778

8 months in the making

[raven gate]

https://tenor.com/view/cease-your-heresy-gif-19891262

[near wyvern]

@left basin what base lvl weapons do you use to roll and what colour do you upgrade them to?

[left basin]

350+

i can't stop myself from roolling

i am a rooler

[near wyvern]

Use 370+ and upgrade to orange

You'd be surprised how many T4s you can see by upgrading 370+ weapons

Use the browser extension to check the shop whenever you can

That's the best source of 370+ weapons

[digital loom]

i have been finding this to be my goto for high shocck

there are so many specials and elites everything winds up on fire and your special ability is almost never on cd

to be fair i am somewhat endgame

i've also got a deimos that i use sometimes

the comedy to me is that i've already reached this level on a psyker that reached 30 yesterdaay

[normal sequoia]

so uuuh, do I keep this and just switch block and upgrade slaughterer, or should I start again?

I really have no idea how good uncanny is on illisi

[feral verge]

Uncanny isnt ideal

Unstable power if you want more damage/power at high peril (20% more, at 80%+ peri)

[vernal frost]

Uncanny is nice on deimos

[feral verge]

Deflector if you want to block bullets

[vernal frost]

Probably start again yeah

[feral verge]

It's a neat blessing, but not necessary if you can dodge (which you should be doing 24/7 with force sword, because it has infinite dodges)

[vernal frost]

Get uncanny for the deimos meme build to wipe crusher patrols

[feral verge]

Perks should be maniac (priority) and flak

[raven gate]

🎶 shes a maniac, maaaaaniac.🎶

[normal sequoia]

aight, I'll just put T4 uncanny in the sticker book

and partake in Hadron's Casino

again

[harsh gust]

wew

[normal sequoia]

managed to cobble up this Deimos. Unfortunately got stuck with one bad perk and a low blessing 😦

usable or start again?

[digital loom]

i like running deflector on these because its like being a shield ogryn but not using a useless weapon

deflector opens up mobility opportunities that you may discover really suit your playstyle

if not, well then slaughterer/unstable power or something

[formal ridge]

I wanted to make an unstable/deflector deimos earlier but then swapped to vet and got sidetracked

since slaughterer is pointless without stacks

[obsidian marten]

@normal sequoia just a bit of crafting advice . If you have a high stat weapon but roll a LVL 1 or 2 blessing at blue that you want, roll it away to something you don't want (LVL 1). This means that you can't roll the shitty blessing on the second slot and also means that you have two good options when going to orange. Of course if you were happy with LVL 2 slaughter then ignore

[cosmic sigil]

That you can proce with soulblaze and quite fast if there's chaff around. But yeah, you need a source to get the stacks.

@spice veldt what about your essay?

[spice veldt]

you bastard

[wet belfry]

Its easy to make him write essays

[wet belfry]

What do you think about the trauma staff?

[raven gate]

pretty mid essays too. B-

[spice veldt]

i think it'll look quite nice with the other end sticking out of your bum

[lunar hollow]

this some weird shit to open psyker chat #2 to

[raven gate]

HR is not gunna like this

[cosmic sigil]

What is Psyker chat #1?

Zealot?:😬

[olive ember]

@spice veldt is like a maestro, but in the writing field, he’s been going at his work for the past half week and he still is not satisfied, for he is only satisfied should he achieve perfection

[lunar hollow]

yes

they are both psyker chat

[olive ember]

Psyker chat 1 is psyker chat

[lunar hollow]

fuck u zealot chat best psyker chat

[olive ember]

Psyker chat 2 is where we make fun of the inferior class for having the worst melee selection in the game

[spice veldt]

zealot chat? you mean psyker chat

[lunar hollow]

psyker chat best psyker chat

[cosmic sigil]

I think zealot chat people tend to player other classes more

[olive ember]

Psyker chat people literally played other class

Cuz psyker was shit at launch and we were malding

[vestal raven]

^

[lunar hollow]

unless ur name is lazorr

[cosmic sigil]

Lazorr is playing one weapon tbh

[lunar hollow]

thunderhammer main

[cosmic sigil]

I remember people complaining. What was the problem!?

[olive ember]

Meh I gotta finish my breakfast and get to work I got a funny wall of text somewhere I’ll give ya

Once I finish breakfast

My breakfast is a slice of Costco pizza

#notlactoseintolerant

[thorn tapir]

Interesting idea with an insanely good roll.

[raven gate]

but where deflector

[thorn tapir]

we are here to set things on fire

https://tenor.com/view/evil-elmo-fire-on-die-gif-19148549

[vestal raven]

nice sword

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/y4d1qd/what_exactly_does_agony_from_the_psyker_skill/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

Ah good old CBT UI

When BB wasn’t shit smh

[thorn sage]

Always get the good guns on my Psyker 🙂

Luckily i got me good stick

[graceful eagle]

tickle gun

[raven gate]

windows + shift+ s
to take cropped screenshots

[thorn sage]

Dont have to tell me that 🙂

I know

But was lazy

[thorn tapir]

TIL shred is garbage

it stacks on a single target

meaning its useless on hordes

😦

So I need to roll bloodthirsty haha

[spice veldt]

it stacks on multiple targets, but it gets dropped if you miss or wait too long or swap off or break your attack chain in any way, shape, or form

[thorn tapir]

oh so it works on hordes

[spice veldt]

ye

[thorn tapir]

everything should work like stopping power

with the same stack time

so it just is unified and makes sense Dx

[safe crystal]

Things that make sense, in my Tide game?

[spice veldt]

explaining overcomplicated mechanics, in my tide game?

[safe crystal]

Best i can do is

[thorn tapir]

testing it meat grinder yea

its useless on hordes because you one shot anyway

but on single target it stacks insanely fast

which is kind of awesome because the illisi already is a perfect horde weapon

so you kind of make it a single target beast

[spice veldt]

though I generally despisse continuing the attack chains on the illisi

i dislike the last two attacks of the light chain since they're uppercut diagonals

[olive ember]

Despise* not despisse

[spice veldt]

enemies with an armour type worth using the heavies on usually requiring the special to get staggered anyways

pisss off

[olive ember]

No wonder you can’t write your essay

[spice veldt]

begone

[thorn tapir]

heavy attack chain works im testing it right now. burn gets up to 70 damage in 5 heavy attacks chained together

[spice veldt]

ah right blazing spirit

[thorn tapir]

got a very good roll

so im trying to make it work

fyi im used to blame gunpsyker with machine pistol

so everything feels like a downgrade xD

[raven gate]

the dangers of doing drugs.
dont do shred pistol kids

[thorn tapir]

just spamming heavies is kind of really good for clumps of a ton of maulers/ragers it looks like, and your soulblaze spreads but it spreads like the shittiest dot.
why would I care about an 8 damage dps dot spreading when I have guns/swords with 1600 dps xD

[spice veldt]

blazing spirit is pretty shit yeah

since soulblaze is average and is only great because of extremely busted application methods like purg

[thorn tapir]

maybe it will get reworked/buffed in 2 years

and Ill have the godroll sitting in my inventory

ofc it will be irrelevent because they will release red weapons

xD

one thing thats REALLY sad is you cant set shield boys on fire light attack criting their shield

like with bleed zealot

😦

guess ill just stick with this

1 shots all specials in the game

with special effect

[graceful eagle]

finesse is too low also why executer? get Uncanny strike if you want to kill Carapace enemies

[olive ember]

@spice veldt play voidstrike psyker and spam balls at josho

You won’t

[lunar hollow]

DIE

[echo turtle]

Executor doesn’t work properly on the demos I don’t understand why people take it

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[lethal folio]

It works but it just isn't as good as other blessings.

[graceful eagle]

running without blessings is also works..

[thorn tapir]

just use whatever junk you can find yea

https://youtu.be/aKOHKzhcTzY

[west galleon]

Is warp nexus a lot worse than warp flurry? I finally rolled a lvl4 transfer peril on a voidstrike and it also has lvl4 nexus on it

But now i get to decide... and it took so long to roll that shit...

[deft gorge]

time to brick

[raven gate]

ib4 +stamina +sprint efficientcy

[deft gorge]

ur half right

[raven gate]

so what did u roll?

[deft gorge]

STAM and 20 maniac rip

t3 blessings

[thorn tapir]

shock troop gauntlet right now and everyone is playing psyker haha

[minor verge]

W shop

[raven gate]

its funny. that greens in the shop are better than blues
because blues in the shop seem to either have bad base rating or bad blessing tier/perks

[minor verge]

ye the blessing is trash gotta get lucky with the 2nd one

btw perk is dmg to unarmored so not that bad but im not sure if its that good on surge staff

but base roll is pretty solid i'd say

[raven gate]

its not great. u prob grant flak/maniac. i like carapace to melt crushers faster
but unarmored means u can kill dreg shooters faster which isnt bad

[minor verge]

my current one has a worse base roll but is pretty good otherwise, but i havent had the resources to spend on it to exchange run and gun on it for something more useful (perks are 25 on flak and maniacs)

charge rate could be compensated by adding flurry

[raven gate]

wuts the first blessing? run n gun? swap it for warp flurry

[minor verge]

as i said im not using it that much currently but yeah

[cosmic sigil]

should i continue?

[cold geode]

What? You don't want to be runnin and gunnin?

[raven gate]

damn, ive been lookin for transfer peril 4 for a while

[cosmic sigil]

tonight i got deflector4, unstable 4 again and this

[raven gate]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-astartes-3d-art-nope-gif-16794679

[cosmic sigil]

i need more plasteel but it's kinda looking good

[floral relic]

Is this a decent enough Psyker Staff? Costs 2755 at Melks

[vestal raven]

to earn transfer peril 4 yeah

[raven gate]

id grab it to take transfer peril off of it. it doesnt come often
but u can also use it before u get a better rating

[floral relic]

Yeah I think I'll just grab it and use it until I get something better

Brand new lv 30 lol

[echo turtle]

I started using run and gun again, I liked it at first but the speed boost is minimal and you take extra damage while sprinting so I advise against it

[floral relic]

I'm in Asia right now and playing Xbox PC servers

Barely any other person, so Heresey felt hard for me

No teammates just solo

[raven gate]

id swap warp nexus for flurry 4 if u got it

[floral relic]

btw is Transfer Peril good on Voidstrike?

[raven gate]

yes

[floral relic]

Just click heads?

Nice

[raven gate]

it works on ur rmb
u can spam that ball endlessly if u hit enough enemies

[floral relic]

Nice

Wait, you can headshot multiple enemies?

Neat

Also Warp Nexus means gain power right?

[raven gate]

its crit chance iirc

[primal plume]

Psykers got enough belts to be in a final fantasy

[floral relic]

Pain, if it's power it would be pretty good

[primal plume]

They pdated it or something

and for to add "Crit chance" in the description

so you just gan between 4% and 16%

[ember hornet]

no you just gain based

simply become more based

[cosmic sigil]

I think it's more sex appeal.

[west stream]

It is gains

You become swole

[cosmic sigil]

Peril is swoleness of the mind

[vestal stirrup]

Just had an amazing game, we had three psykers, each with the different personality (and a vet)

Two purgatus staves and the lightning staff

the dreams never stood a chance

[open flame]

Does any sibling here have the feeling that all those feats regarding soulflame are a little underwhelming? I've tried a full soulfire build with purgatus only to find that I could get a lot of other things done if I Just go another build, is it just me?

[spice veldt]

the soulblaze feats are kinda meh

wrack & ruin is a bit redundant if you're already picking purg, except to burn a group of enemies at range
wildfire has some bugged, unlisted, and undesirable behavior that makes it not as good as it sounds

[sullen bobcat]

Soulfire doesn't really fit being a kinetic psyker

Suddenly, firs

Fire

The last feat for the changed ult is nice

Because you use that feat that applies increased damage on brain burst

Since you have an equally good charge source

And don't need that 4% charge on kill

[vale viper]

not entirely awful.

[karmic delta]

got too caught up in the trauma sauce

blew myself up ong

[sullen bobcat]

I'd say it's a pretty good staff

Quell speed doesn't really matter if you have peril transfer iv

And that's the only lacking stat

[karmic delta]

I dont run peril transfer

and this was 2 days of me just playing Gun psyker away from my Trauma

i got myself killed by blowing myself up

[sullen bobcat]

Oh I'm referring to keet's roll

[karmic delta]

not as good as mine

[vestal stirrup]

What are good blessings for a Purgatus staff

[raven gate]

warp flurry and nexus
but i like flurry and terrifying barrage

[strong thicket]

Worth the melk bucks? Only 1800

[echo turtle]

Agreed on both points. Wildfire is OK, but not necessary at all. I personally wouldn’t take it outside of hi intensity after running it for a week

[hardy tulip]

Keep it?

[raven gate]

you can take a cropped screenshot with
windows + shift + s

and yes, its a good sword

[hardy tulip]

What bleesing get on place of that T3?

[raven gate]

deflector is always my go to

[hardy tulip]

Ok, thx.

[north solstice]

do you guys stack toughness or health with your trinkets?

[spice veldt]

i like me toughness

[raven gate]

same. its like having natural bond in vt2

i do have 1 health curio in case of grim. but thats it

[echo turtle]

Currently I have gravitated to a few KB/ purgatus build. The staff has more than enough horde clear on it’s own and keeping the charges + faster BBs is just excellent for dealing with elites and specials

Really liking being able@to more consistently 1 hit the flamers too

Anyone else feeling the same? Or has everyone just ditched the fire staff

[spice veldt]

trauma is my comfort pick for crusher groups

[echo turtle]

that’s a great sword

[spice veldt]

and allows me to stack 3 toughness + kinetic shield since that covers my ability to revive

[echo turtle]

I’ll have to try it again sometime. I absolutely hated it when I used to use it

Maybe I’ll come around

it really does just say, “I own this spot”

[echo turtle]

I got 2 Tough 1 health.

it doesn’t matter that much tbh

[spice veldt]

i do have a thousand hours in the staff so the annoying parts of it are probably gone in my mind

[echo turtle]

toughness is overall great especially if running KS

aha

[spice veldt]

besides whenever I encounter those stairs with gaps

[raven gate]

guys, we have failed

the zealots have unlocked the power of flight before us. How could we let this happen
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/142mpp6/unlimited_jetpack_flamethrowing/

maybe, if we form a circle, join hands and fire our purgatus staff at the ground we can beat them to space

[karmic delta]

low grav mode?

[raven gate]

its the newst mod on nexus "will of the emperor". go into a solo lobby and mod everything about it

[floral relic]

No we Psykers natrually have the power of EXPLOSION

We need to explode ourselves one by one to propel up

[raven gate]

yes of course. trauma staff is the superior staff. We all know @spice veldt is wrong about surge staff anyway

[floral relic]

Fancy paint skillz

Also I was thinking about self explosion via 200% peril lmao

[raven gate]

we'll need both to reach escape velocity

[floral relic]

Ayyy

Been learning Heresy recently
I died to self explode a lot, not sure way lmao

[strong thicket]

Hahahaha I'm playing malice for scriptures. I suicided to kill a beast of nurgle and also killed 2 vets

I'm content with the game for today

[grizzled jasper]

Nothing of value was lost

Good trade

[proper raven]

Siblings, what's Soulblaze?

[raven gate]

blu fire

[proper raven]

Fair.

[raven gate]

burn good

[proper raven]

Make heretics go FZZZZ?

[raven gate]

idk. all i hear are their screams

[proper raven]

I just got Psyker explained by an Ogryn. But thank you.

[white sky]

Remind me, is it below 95 or 97 percent to not explode myself as psyker?

[north solstice]

97 is the breakpoint for self explosion

[raven gate]

its 100 o.0

[white sky]

Tyty

[raven gate]

what are u guys talking abotu

[proper raven]

[Mad/Pained Psykinetic's Wrath vent button laugh]

[white sky]

If you start casting below 97 you shouldn't pop yourself iirc

Finally gonna start leveling my psyker, forgot

[raven gate]

does that count even on ur second round?

[white sky]

From memory you can BB, vent, BB, vent, BB, vent as long as you vent to under 97

[raven gate]

not in my experience. but hey leme know how that works. i'd be happy if i can improve my gaameplay

[spice veldt]

i'm not sure what you mean but I think surge is a fine staff

[hardy tulip]

What about this?

Gues Nexus stay.

[raven gate]

its fine. what are u lookin to replace tho

[graceful eagle]

keep sprint

[near wyvern]

Nexus is nice on surge, there isn't a lot going for it anyways

Sprint into unarmoured or maniac IMO

[raven gate]

dont keep sprint
i meant what staff r u replacing

[hardy tulip]

If you ask other staffs I used there is none, only use this one since buy it.

[raven gate]

well its a decent staff. idk what else u want me to say

got the right blessings too

[hardy tulip]

T3 bless replacment.

[raven gate]

yeah sure if u got it

but flurry is the right one to have

[ember sentinel]

I thought 94 was the max you could bb at

[river dawn]

Hi guys im new and just hit 30 psyker, bought this at white and upgraded all the way. im not sure if this was a good choice to upgrade, or if the perks and blessings are good. Anyone can take a look plz

i only noticed it had 34% damage after i finished upgrading

[ember sentinel]

Warp flurry 4 is still very good

Worst case you take it off

[raven gate]

dmg is a bit low. but most of ur purgatus dmg will come form DoT

[ember sentinel]

You got a good burn stat

[harsh urchin]

maniacs to unyielding/flak imo

you generally want to BB or deimos stab maniacs

[ember sentinel]

That or make that crit chance t4

But yeah maniac probably not needed on purge

Esp with deimos

[river dawn]

Ok so dmg doesnt matter on staff? I basically keep this, change the maniacs to flak/unyi? What about the blessings?

[harsh urchin]

maniacs -> unyielding/flak and barrage -> warp nexus and the weapon is gucci

[river dawn]

What is BB/Deimos/stab maniacs?

[harsh urchin]

light -> heavy on deimos

will kill everything

[ember sentinel]

Damage isnt super important but 34 is low

Bb is brain burst

[river dawn]

Alright cool :D thanks a lot for the info guys

gonna do the changes and show again

[ember sentinel]

The special on deimos does a ton of damage as well but it leaves you vulnerable so id just do l1 h2 unless its a boss

[cyan notch]

since when

[ember sentinel]

its just what i heard

[white sky]

It still works, been doing it all match

[rigid sky]

I would only use the special on Crushers for optimal play

[white sky]

I'm on diff 2 rn

[rigid sky]

Or like anything if I just want to be a spooky space wizard

[near wyvern]

It's 97 with default ui and below 97 with true peril since default ui always rounds up

98 during kinetic barrage with default ui

[white sky]

What level does a space wizard get their first staff?

[polar grail]

Shadow wizard money gang

we love casting spells

[polar grail]

I think I unlocked my first one before level 5

[white sky]

Gotcha, I'll continue the BB only till then

[polar grail]

This song is sponsored by the shadow government

legalize nuclear bombs

[spice veldt]

the first staff you get (trauma) will suck at lower ratings

[white sky]

I can live with that

[polar grail]

I was still getting the lines where teammates compliment you for killing lots of enemies with it

granted I did kill myself twice

[harsh gust]

either any good?

[restive spoke]

first one better stats both blessings are eeh

[river dawn]

Gain what exactly?

[safe crystal]

You just gain

Become swole

Jokes aside, its crit chance

[river dawn]

Ah ok xD thanks

[safe crystal]

At 20/40/60/80, you gain a stack

[river dawn]

Ooh cool

so i should idealy be around 80 then i guess

[safe crystal]

If you can maintain it without exploding

It also benefits warp unleashed on 2nd row immensely

Of your talents

[acoustic osprey]

is this worth slapping slaughterer on?

[safe crystal]

Yes

I would put it over shred myself, but thats entirely up to you

[river dawn]

Is "warp attack" the brain burst? or is it the damage from the staffs?

[restive spoke]

both

[safe crystal]

Brain burst, force sword specials, and staff attacks

[river dawn]

Oh so anything that increases the peril meter?

[restive spoke]

yup

[river dawn]

Cool thanks

[proper raven]

Okay I feel stupid with the Feats mentioning buffs or whatever and not giving an explanation of what they are. Warp Charge is...?

[restive spoke]

the stacks psyker gets on brain burst kill

[proper raven]

This should be called Warp Charge, not Warp Siphon then.
Thank you.

Man, Psyker is some big brain stuff, that's why people stick with the Guard.

[restive spoke]

yup

[proper raven]

[normal sequoia]

so uuh, any advice on what should I do about these perks?

[raven gate]

keep carapace. reoll infested

[safe crystal]

Infested into flak or crit

[raven gate]

PSA to all newbies asking for what to do tweak in their new weapons
There is a mod called "reroll until rarity" you click it once, and hadron will keep cycling until you get what you want on tier 4
that is all

[lilac tapir]

It's funny how 50 hours of playing Gunker with Shredder builds your muscle memory so when I start levelling my Veteran I'm simply doing the same thing but with more single target dmg, more ammo and Toughness. And yes, I named my Veteran "Gunker" just for the lols 😉

[silent coral]

the more i play with the trauma staff the more i wonder why i even bother imho, the center of the circle feels like it needs to be on top of a crusher or bulwark to stagger them which would be ok if it washt the most awkawrd thing ever to aim the disk i feel

[lilac tapir]

interesting, you can access Melk (both contracts and shop) before reaching lvl 11 if you have the hub hotkey mod 😄

Melk only gives grey items though (levelling my Vet, currently at lvl 6)

[ornate hamlet]

@spice veldt do you know what kinds of values go for the texture settings besides the default and -1, as in if I put a higher value it'll be a lower resolution or something?

Source had something like it, where low values were high resolution textures and increasing made it lower

I'm also starting to understand some of it

This is what someone was telling me one day about textures being kind of layered to create new cosmetics, with this one having the swirly pattern separate from the base texture

in here the only values set to not -1 are BCA, NM and mask

these skull patterns are controlled separately from the carpet, with the skulls being yellow with the intended setting

[feral topaz]

@idle bay I got a question to ask ya, does crit surge voidstrike work and if so how would you improve this one ?

[raven gate]

it doesnt sadly
but save it for a possible buff. i got one just like it

[feral topaz]

...crud

[idle bay]

It simply scores extra hit which is noticabe in Meatgrinder and you can hear double-hit

[feral topaz]

...so its not useful for real gameplay

aight

[idle bay]

Double damage on crit .. technically plus critical damage

So Surge + Warp Nexus (or however it called now) on paper should provide noticable DPS boost.

On practive - you'll most likely will not notice it 🙂

[feral topaz]

Sadge

[idle bay]

But to think about it - what else do you want from Voidstrike?

Most of the time it's machinegun-spam by hand or macro

Super rarely fully charged

[feral topaz]

I was trying to make an upgrade for this

Didn't pan out

[idle bay]

Voidstrike could use re-work - machine-gun mode on RMB instead of charging of it's attack.

That whould be fun 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

I guess higher numbers are lower resolution here too

[sullen bobcat]

Void strike is fine tbh

A new staff with a high rof attack would be neat

Either a beam or pew spam

[ornate hamlet]

So my theory of the texture numbers:
-1 is none
0 is high
1 is medium
2 is low
3 and an undetermined limit above are progressively lower

[cosmic sigil]

So you run void quell with warp absorption or essence harvest?

[calm raven]

what's the feat setup for a damage oriented surge staff?

[south zephyr]

not sure damage and surge belong in the same sentence together

[calm raven]

so there's no breakpoint to really push for with the surge staff at all then?

[outer stump]

cop? lvl 22 rn

[kind jay]

you can use warp unleashed and battery if you want straight up damage for it

[ornate hamlet]

robber

[kind jay]

i prefer inner tranq to abuse flurry though

[outer stump]

imma assume yes.

[kind jay]

flayer works too and the bb seems to favor elites

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, I don't know what "cop" is

It's a nice weapon for leveling though, despite the illisi and deimos taking preference

[sullen bobcat]

I can assure you that I don't know the name for anything in this game

[cosmic sigil]

That's the first column. Essence harvest is gain tg with warp charges, warp absorption is gain tg with warp attack kills (?) And the last one is with quelling.

[south zephyr]

quietude is more consistent imo

even with a KB build

if essence harvest stacked though, it might be a different story

but for some reason, the vet equivalent stacks but the psyker one doesn't

warp absorption is okay iirc, depending on what staff you use

but quietude is more versatile

pretty much quietude allows you to actively control your toughness regen, without having to hit something

[sullen bobcat]

Yeah whatever the one where you get toughness from losing perils

It works for anything where you lose perils

Peril transfer, your ult, the sword headshot one, etc

Of course venting and passive venting

You can also do other things with it like charge your force sword and keep switching to build peril

And then quell to get toughness back faster than passive

Or if you're stuck alone

[thick carbon]

Finally got Malleus Monstrum done last night thanks to the help of a wonderful group of people and have officially finished all the original penances. I am now truly dripped out

[river dawn]

Hello, so i got a slightly better staff and applied what u said on it, is it better? The new is the 509 one, old is 482

[idle aurora]

try to get nexus lvl4, and flak is better imo, since it's a much more common parameter for enemies

[near gale]

So, uh, how do you use the purgatus staff?

I got the custom flames mod so I can see when people are using the flamer/purgatus, so it made me kinda want to learn how to use the purgatus more.

I also found this in the credits shop.

[strong thicket]

Wow voidstrike maniac damage sucks, like it sucks so bad

[ornate epoch]

hrm.. i dont remember a staff, psyker is my least played class.. which staffs are there, fire, lightning, aoe circle thing and...?`there is one more isnt there?

[strong thicket]

Although quelling on weakspot hit is pretty nice

[safe crystal]

The glorious bowling ball staff

[strong thicket]

The flashbang staff

[ornate epoch]

oO... is that a bad one? i feel i never see that in action xD or.. i have no clue how it looks.. i am confused

oh.. looked it up on youtube, i guess i just assumed its the primary attack of another one when i saw it...

[fathom adder]

Probably referring to Surge Staff, blind your teammates, stunlock enemies in the lightning arc, do no damage at all (except to flak for some reason)

[ornate epoch]

looks.. weak xD could be cool if the ydid the unreal thing were you have to hit a slow traveling bubble with a fast projectile for a extra big boom

anyone members unreal? x_X

[lilac tapir]

carrying those random malice runs with my lvl 9 vet - Shredder is really OP, especially when you can slap Tier 4 Pinning Fire blessing on the first blue one you get your hands on 😄

[ornate hamlet]

this is the way

[harsh urchin]

YES

finally hit it

I think i'm actually gonna keep it

rather than extract the blessing

[cosmic sigil]

It's very good

[formal ridge]

i dont like quietutde on high peril builds, or a low quell stat staff, on voidstrike crit i basically never quell all the way down so warp absorption is better for me

[south zephyr]

that's definitely a keeper

swap out carapace for unarmored or maniac and blazing spirit to Unstable or Uncanny and that's one hell of an Illisi

[calm raven]

Just wanted to double check, but surge doesn't affect Trauma's secondary right? And if it does; is it worth comboing it with warp flurry and crit chance?

[formal ridge]

full charge surge build is very good

[formal ridge]

doesnt affect

[formal ridge]

its very useful and very fun in a "wow im killing shit "way

[near gale]

I can feel it... terrifying barrage when I get enough plasteel to upgrade it again...

[harsh urchin]

crit damage terrifying barrage and run and gun

let's go

[near gale]

I'd take run and gun, since I can stagger enemies with the m1 then sometime >.>

Way before terrifying barrage

[formal ridge]

ive been playing crit surge void the past 24 hours basically and it slaps hard

[near gale]

Though... would terrifying barrage be potentially useful for the enemies behind you that are coming up on you? >.>

For the purgatus staff specifically

[formal ridge]

replace sustained fire with warp nexus 4

[formal ridge]

and replace unarmoures with flak 25

[unreal dust]

Barrage is great starting out to cover your rear. But expect to swap it out by the time you're ready for hi-shock damnation

Use Barrage, love Barrage, learn to move, learn to slide, then swap it

[near gale]

It feel like it's specifically like a poor quality of life blessing for the purgatus staff

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah maybe that's because I'm mostly a gun psyker and a part time purgatus... But quietude just doesn't click for me :/

[near gale]

because it's nearly useless on every other weapon it's on

It it was # meters away from the enemy you killed, it could be useful. Instead it's # meters away from you...

[unreal dust]

Barrage is there to suppress enemies creeping up behind or in blindspots. As you "git gud" this happens less

[near gale]

I have a bit over 900 hours in the game. Enemies still come out of places you're not expecting all the time. Fatshark design 101

[harsh gust]

despite the stopping power, holy shit this thing shreds

[unreal dust]

It's not terribad. It's a learning tool

[unreal dust]

Yeaaaaah. I think everybody is expecting it to get a nerfbat

[harsh gust]

noooo

[near gale]

I mean you have t4 pinning fire, of course it shreds. I had t3 pinning fire on a leveling autopistol for my 2nd zealot, it still murdered tf out of everything

[river dawn]

How do u see stats?

[near gale]

That's the scoreboard mod

[near gale]

What they did to the power sword is probably rookie numbers of nerfing, compared to what they are gonna do to that pinning fire.

[ornate epoch]

hrm, i dont like the lightning staff much :/ usually i love lightning in games.. but so far.. i am not convinced

but having been a zealot i know that it can be super useful

like a endless stun grenade

[cosmic sigil]

We shall see. In the meantime that helped me lvlup psyker and zealot fast

[near gale]

The only things I like about it are that it is extremely simple to use, and it can take a bit of heat off you for a bit

[ornate epoch]

yeah, but it really relies a bit on the team doing something with it xD

and not just standing there and looking the other way

[near gale]

Not always, You can move towards it and then murder it with your melee

[ornate epoch]

hrm, the stun doesnt seem that long.. but i am only level 9 and my staff is ass.

[near gale]

I've been taking the deimos with all staves, it makes not having a +3 stamina curio feel so much better since you can just dodge for mobility

[cosmic sigil]

I'm more concerned by slaughterer/headtaker nerf. I have a lot of swords with the blessings locked. I have some contingencies...

[ornate epoch]

also.. beginner question -.- do i see somewhere how many of those warp charges i have?

[near gale]

The biggest thing slaughterer being nerfed will affect is gonna be the impact on the thammer, since that's one of the only weapons that isn't made op by slaughterer

[ember sentinel]

bottom right

will be an icon with a number

[near gale]

Isn't it bottom left, next to your portrait?

[ember sentinel]

wait

[proper raven]

Siblings, thoughts?

[ember sentinel]

am i tripping

i thought it was bottom right

[near gale]

No. Middle

[ornate epoch]

ahb of course, the tiny ass symbols

[near gale]

It actually affects basic gunners, unlike any damage resistance perk on a curio

[ember sentinel]

1 or 2, 3 is not worth

[proper raven]

Thank you both.

[near gale]

I used to be a firm believer in kinetic deflection, until I learned how much of a quality of life that kinetic shield is

[ember sentinel]

i love shield

but i see the utility of both

esp if you dont run stam curios

[near gale]

Mind in motion is more of a quality of life thing for quelling, rather than a quality of life thing for staying tf alive

[ember sentinel]

only downside being i can dodgeslide while quelling anyway

[near gale]

I usually just quell when I need to or dodge dance with my deimos/illisi while killing the bs coming at me

The only sad thing I feel about the purgatus build with ascendant blaze is I can't use my career just for quelling, since it wastes all warp charges...

I mean I can, but, it actually has a down side

Is unyielding any good on the Deimos? Just wondering since I don't really have many better options for monster damage besides just brain bursting

[harsh urchin]

you can purg the boss i guess

[near gale]

I mean, for damnation I currently only have a surge staff or an autopistol that I can comfortably take to the run... without feeling like I am putting more pressure on the team by underperforming

[lucid pewter]

what's the best single target melee damage weapon for psyker?

[mental rock]

deimos

[echo turtle]

Kinetic deflection can be worth taking if you run deflector, otherwise I think KS is always better

[olive ember]

sure if you get shot or hit for absolutely no reason

[echo turtle]

deflection is also pretty solid for revives

but Shield with 3 toughness curios is legit

[echo turtle]

the reason is usually me doing something idiotic

[cyan notch]

until u get sniped once and die

[cosmic sigil]

Kinetic deflection works on all attacks or just melee btw?

[olive ember]

kinetic deflection replaces stamina cost of blocking with peril cost

so only melee unless you are using deflector

but it also lets you basically revive with a horde around you and just ignore the horde

it also lets you use your stamina solely for push attacks etc. and makes you stagger proof when blocking at zero stam

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah I use deflection with +3 Stam but not the deflector blessing

[olive ember]

taking deflector is a decent failsafe with deflection cuz you can basically block bullets for a long ass time

like you need like 2 gunners to actually cap out on peril

[cosmic sigil]

But i wondered if you could also gain peril while blocking bullets

[olive ember]

with deflector yes

[cosmic sigil]

Hmm. It's harde to give up on unstable 4

[echo turtle]

LOL i take some sniper resist, but yeah thats a thing

I have been considering switching to health curios instead

[olive ember]

its up to preference really

[echo turtle]

dropping KS

and taking deflector

[cosmic sigil]

But maybe I should make a deflector loadout for pugs

[echo turtle]

It’s fun. With slaughterer the second slot is really your choice between deflector or some extra damage

[cosmic sigil]

Slaughterer4 is the locked blessing on both my illissi and Deimos so yeah

[echo turtle]

I have been lucky with slaught4s

i have like, 3 rolled this week

[kind jay]

kd is for tanking dh. which you can do after surge staffing a room that has one. and then impress your friends with your dh dance.

[echo turtle]

well, KD changes a bit more than that

[restive spoke]

recommended blessing to replace barrage

[kind jay]

transfer peril

[echo turtle]

the peril reduce one is good

[echo turtle]

Yeah I have done both. I like the toughness stacking with KS and it’s generally quite good but I have noticed you are so vulnerable to

snipers,bursters,chip damage and grims. Not to mention ur in a bad bad place when you touch fire

I’m gonna try health with as much extra health and damage resists as I can roll and see how it goes

+health, gunner,sniper, +Tough,

Maybe some corruption resist too? Toughness regen?

anything I am overlooking?

[formal ridge]

I just swapped to toughness curios so I can revive people while being shot lol

4 psyker hi shock; just won; that was a blast

[sick isle]

whats the dump stat on trauma staff again. I wish there was a guide so i dont have to ask these questions

[formal ridge]

quell speed or warp resist more or less

[sick isle]

def not charge rate though

just idk if i should gamba on this or nah

[formal ridge]

yes 100% gamble on it

any 375 almost is worth a gamble

I mean I would lol

you can try it out see if what people say is correct

see if charge rate is really dump stat based on your playstyle

[sick isle]

i have this, but perks are dead

[formal ridge]

warp flurry+long charge rate means you just pump up some quick charges then you get your charge rate up fast

and your warp resist is max

so you will 100% benefit from warp flurry precharges (because of the warp resist effect of warp flurry)

[near gale]

This emperor's gift makes me feel so many strange emotions...

[formal ridge]

tempting

^reroll gunners and its a docket farm curio

[cosmic sigil]

I like my gunner resist 😬

[formal ridge]

i dont know about sustained fire... maybe i just havent gotten it to work; a macro would be super helpful; its 10% bonus damage on first 3 attacks

[near gale]

Personally I would keep gunner resist and put on sniper resist over combat ability regen

[cosmic sigil]

Combat ability on the the other hand..

[formal ridge]

depends on loadout but yeah ive been running psyk aura lately

[near gale]

Even when not, it has such a miniscule affect that the gunner resist will do more overall

there's almost always a gang of reapers or gunners

[formal ridge]

well stacked its 10%

thats not miniscule

or 12%

[near gale]

12% at the cost of a stat that will do more overall

[formal ridge]

it depends on loadout raelly, on this build im doing now i play high peril the whole time

so being able to ulti saves my ass

[near gale]

12% of 30 seconds is 3.6 seconds

[formal ridge]

yeah thats a long time

im not going to argue

difference of opinion

in 3.6 second i can kill a ton of hoard/shooters/CC

[near gale]

Know what else is? Way less sniper damage for when you get tagged, revive speed for picking allies up, gunner resist for large reaper/gunner gangs, stamina regen, more toughness, more health

[formal ridge]

i can charge force sword and attack

[cosmic sigil]

I prefer stacking 60% gunner resist than 12% combat Regen

[formal ridge]

honestly with psyk aura its over kill

with AB its helpful

like on gun psyker

[near gale]

Even without psykinetic's aura... it just sacrifices the place of something that would do more, aiming for 9%-12% cdr

[formal ridge]

faster ulti=more damage

yeah but if it saves me from getting downed in a critical moment when my team cant revive me thats a death and potential wipe

[cosmic sigil]

I would rather sacrifice ordos farming than gunner

[near gale]

Faster ult is nice, but, not dying from that 1 sniper shot you didn't dodge helps a lot too

[formal ridge]

in critical moments when I cant pay 100% attention to my peril, thats when I need my CD maxed

[feral verge]

Can't say I've had many moments where I wished my ult was 3 seconds faster

[formal ridge]

I mean I run a wound for a reason but I dont want to use it

Matter of playstyle then

[near gale]

3 seconds might add up each run, but, so do a lot of other perks... and they add up a lot more

[formal ridge]

I have tons of times wher eIm staring at my ulti

watching it tick down

[near gale]

I am pretty sure I can take 3 sniper shots on damnation with default hp, when I have 60% sniper resist

2 shots, without going down

[formal ridge]

if you have an internal clock (not insulting you) then you will be able to watch and know when the ulti comes up

[cosmic sigil]

I feel like every psyker I see in damn is running wounds ffs.

[lethal folio]

You need 55% total with no hp booet

[near gale]

to survive 2 hits with 150hp?

[lethal folio]

Very important so you don't die with one wound

[formal ridge]

I have a wound so I get shot by sniper? Ok I get downed fine

[near gale]

I run full sniper resist on my psyker

[formal ridge]

thats the wound covering me

if I didnt have a wound? ok take sniper resist

its a trade off

[near gale]

Then your team can't pick you up, and the wound gets wasted

[cosmic sigil]

Makes sense

[formal ridge]

is what it is just my playstyle I guess

I get sniped when 2 people are in the line of fire

[near gale]

then the team wipes, because the thing you were doing was what was keeping them alive as well as they were

[formal ridge]

impossible to dodge

Im usually last one to go down though... not always but usually unless its from me blowing up

[near gale]

That's the thing: If you're the last to die normally, more resources are even more important since they keep you alive longer so that you don't need a wound

[formal ridge]

I guess I see the point of sniper resist, some times you CANT dodge it

because of the "Bug"

[near gale]

Also when you go down that means the team is more likely to wipe, if you're the most capable at surviving

[formal ridge]

but going down from a sniper shot isnt necesarily wipe

you get sniped in scenarios where you didnt have a chance to scout

so you are already in a "Defensive" posture

not in a "oh shit" posture

I mean I stay close to my team if we are pushing

pushing into new rooms etc

[near gale]

That's why I like the full sniper resist on psyker, I'm willing to sacrifice a small amount on my Vet because of the 75% dr feat

[formal ridge]

ill think about it, ty

[near gale]

I have almost never used wound curios

I may have used them... once or twice, in my early days... maybe 3 times

I've been a full resources enjoyer, for most of my darktide gameplay

[vestal raven]

+wound is for the weak and afraid

[cosmic sigil]

I stopped using gunner resist on my vet I still run the sniper one. Stacking Stam Regen was more important

[vestal raven]

emperor guides us

[formal ridge]

Nah its not Im not weak or afraid but try again

[vestal raven]

its a joke dingus

[formal ridge]

I know but I have to retort dinkus

or my honor is impugned

[near gale]

Wound curios are, more or less, planning for failure

[formal ridge]

so is sniper resist tho

😉

[near gale]

Yes, but, it doesn't reduce my toughness by 15%-17% and my hp by 20%-21%

[formal ridge]

I mean when I have 0 wounds I die way more so I just dont do it, I love going max peril with voidstrike lately; I fully grant that Im not an expert at peril monitoring

Im not an expert psyker just enthusiast

[near gale]

I was a battle wizard main in vt2, I almost never trigger a blow up because of how much I had to manage heat in vt2

[cosmic sigil]

If you had 1 wound and 2 hp. The 3 curios with +5tg.

But that would mean sacrifice Stam 😦

[near gale]

I will agree sniper resist is planning for failure, but, it doesn't come at a large cost to my resources for survival

[formal ridge]

Im just trying this out, 2 tough 1 wound; see if I can stay alive; my natural prefference is 2 health

[near gale]

Psyker it's more of a preference. Zealot it's based on if you have holy rev or thy wrath be swift. Hp for rev, toughness for twbs

Ogryn it's based on if you wanna be omega bulky, or be able to take a couple extra shots before your toughness breaks

Personally I am a 3 toughness guy on all 4 classes

[cosmic sigil]

Don't you miss Stam on the vet?

[near gale]

How can I miss something I never used?

[vestal raven]

on pysker i think im 2 +3 stamina curios and a +health

[cosmic sigil]

Camo guy Spotted

You're probably running a mg12

[near gale]

my go-to builds are these two and the weapons I have on them.

[formal ridge]

helbore nice but you like 1 over 2?

i never built a 1

when i want to be super technical i go hellbore 2

[near gale]

2 is too fast for my poor aim to make use of, I take longer to aim on top of missing a lot of shots

[formal ridge]

with deadshot

[near gale]

Once I tried unwavering focus, I never went back to camo

[formal ridge]

i aim hipfire, then ads, then charge>shoot

its a lot of finger coordination

lol

[near gale]

My vet's poor xii has collected a fuck ton of dust, it's been ages since I've used it

[formal ridge]

same

[near gale]

Also let me guess: You also think I'm a flamer zealot

[cosmic sigil]

Not a thammer main for sure.

😬

You're probably a flamer / shredder Zelaot yeah

Why no bleed grenades tho?

[near gale]

If that's not a joke, then you've definitely missed your mark by a long shot.

[cosmic sigil]

Especially with the shredder

[cosmic sigil]

That's a joke. I've seen you looking for thammers in zchat

[near gale]

because bleed does 1/4th damage to infested, and the reload speed affects even the shredder

[cosmic sigil]

Hmm

That's not how you use bleed grenades

[near gale]

I feel not having it on my zealot and psyker

[formal ridge]

last night, on a team with 2 psykers, a vet announced at the start of a high schock, "Im running camo expert"

i just quit

[near gale]

I mean I rarely use my vet's nades in a way that would make the bleed more effective

[cosmic sigil]

That's easy

[near gale]

In fact I forget about them for extended periods

[cosmic sigil]

Have you seen crab vidéos?

[formal ridge]

i put bleed on my plasma loadout

just to help with hoard clear

[cosmic sigil]

Because that's what will help kill crushers and bull

[near gale]

Crab has god-tier aim, good decision making, and he's way better at gaming than I am.

He also seems WAY better at judging distances

He can make use of the iag

[cosmic sigil]

https://youtu.be/E0LtUBdND7o

Ok but that's not a question of skill here

0:41 for the stimestamp

[sick isle]

Low Blast radius on voidstrike is weaksauce right?

[broken carbon]

its slightly less than ideal but its not that big of a deal

[cosmic sigil]

Basically you throw 2 bleed nades directly for max stacking the dots. They will proce upon themselves

[broken carbon]

swap surge for onslaught or something and you're solid

[cosmic sigil]

Of you equip a weapon with flak and/or unyielding that will do more DMG too.

[near gale]

Okay and how does that help me survive better when I don't use the nades super often for damage vs elites?

[cosmic sigil]

Use them often.

[broken carbon]

just use your nades?

[cosmic sigil]

Don't think. Just throw nades

You'll gain them after the fight

[near gale]

but then I won't reload my gun faster when I need to. 😦

[broken carbon]

reload speed is for cowards

[cosmic sigil]

A shredder with 2s of reload speed

[sick isle]

what are these nades you speak of in psyker chat

brainburst?

[broken carbon]

talkin about vet

[near gale]

Have you not seen just how much faster the reload is? It can be the difference between a trapper getting a shot off with the net, and getting shot before it can shoot the net

[broken carbon]

or dodge the trapper

having extra reload speed in most situations imo is just a luxury

its nice

[cosmic sigil]

If more people used their nades against ogryns... Well I would have to bb / do ass slow heavies / waste bullets on them

[broken carbon]

but rarely is it ever anything that makes or breaks a situation

[near gale]

I mean with the helbore I can keep my career active when I need to reload while it's up

[faint sigil]

i briefly glanced at the convo before scrolling down, what are the tldr arguments for taking stam over hp?

[cosmic sigil]

I'm talking about the shredder

[near gale]

with the autopistol it just gives more room for error on my shots, in that situation

[faint sigil]

because i dont think ive ever run out of stamina in my life

[broken carbon]

stamina is fun, HP is for cowards (depends on how often you're blocking vs fighting shooters, and if you feel like you need an extra bit of buffer time before going down)

[faint sigil]

what about stam is fun

[broken carbon]

which mk?

[broken carbon]

running

i hate going slow

[faint sigil]

i guess

[cosmic sigil]

I reload whenever I have a brief period of time between bursts. I'm never below 15 bullets i think

[near gale]

@broken carbon ☝️

[broken carbon]

mk1 shouldnt be needing tac reload to keep ult up

its a bit tighter timing but you can still comfortably keep ult up without it

[near gale]

I mean it also gives me cushioning for a missed shot or 2

[broken carbon]

thats why you just

[near gale]

I have poor aim >.>

[broken carbon]

dont miss

ez

[cosmic sigil]

On the helbore maybe but on the shredder man??

[near gale]

I mean the other 2 feats just don't interest me, and the reload feels nice when I get it

Why would I use something I am not interested in, over something that at least feels nice sometimes?

[broken carbon]

free grenades dont interest you?

[near gale]

I have free grenades

I don't always use them, since I forget sometimes

[broken carbon]

then get in the habit of using them

every chance you get

horde? two grenades

crushers? two grenades

anything unique? grenades.

[near gale]

That's when I use them the most, is for a horde or for crushers

[broken carbon]

i just throw grenades at everything

its fun

[near gale]

or dogs

having free dog nades is very nice

[broken carbon]

lol

yeah

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah. Vets should just throw nades at the beginning of each fights

[faint sigil]

whered you guys get grenades

[broken carbon]

stole em from ogryn when he wasnt looking

[near gale]

I bought em on ebay

[faint sigil]

never come between the big man and his lunchbox

[broken carbon]

oh i left the box

[faint sigil]

oh ok

[cosmic sigil]

Silk Road was the shit to get nades back on the days of Cadia

[broken carbon]

one of ogryns talents should just be to replace his grenade with a block of tungsten

and just make it punch through everything

[digital loom]

box should explode on contact by default

[formal ridge]

ok so the whole add toughness to help revive with a shooter present kind of doesnt work because they fire so fast that its basically pointless, they wont break my toughness on the first round but withing seconds they shoot again

and if there is more than one shooter they both break me on the first round... so revive speed is just going to be better

[echo turtle]

after trying the health, I gotta say

It’s@pretty great

particularly when dealing with missions that have grins

grims*

[hallow cradle]

hello friends! i am happy to announce i just hit 30! any help for builds would be appreciated! we can run some missions or call or whatevber (:

[olive ember]

What staff are you using

Or gun

That determines the build

[hallow cradle]

zappy one (:<

[olive ember]

3-1-2-1-3-3

For blessings try to get a staff with flurry and nexus

[ornate hamlet]

damn bro, happy birthday

[olive ember]

Bruh I thought it was someone’s birthday and I was actually gonna say happy bday

Ffs this is why I should never be nice on the internet smh

Willful traitors all

[cold hornet]

Trying to build a Trauma staff, but never really used one before. Is it possible to get a decent soulblaze burn going?

[river dawn]

Can this be used or are both perks/blessings bad?

[vestal raven]

yes

[restive spoke]

warp flurry is good run n gun is bad and perks are ok would replace crit damage

[ornate hamlet]

Run and gun is hilarious

[cold hornet]

Worth dumping the brittleness for warp nexus?

[ornate hamlet]

The "sprint" is a mildly faster walk

[river dawn]

What should i replace them with?

[ornate hamlet]

Unless it's not the charge sprint

idfk this game is just screwed and I don't know what's real

[restive spoke]

run n gun with weakspot hit reduces peril and crit damage with +flak damage

[river dawn]

Alright thanks!

[restive spoke]

brittleness is good for bullying crushers so personally I would keep that

[cold hornet]

Base crit is the same for all staffs except for surge, correct?

[shy prairie]

steal flurry and put it on the trauma ez

[cosmic sigil]

One time I wanted to meme +9 Stam on my vet (i run +6) and I qp into grim run with 3 ogryns. Well i had to do survive with less than one wound 😬

[random snow]

whats best Psyk Tier 1 feat

[spice veldt]

depends

quietude is especially nice for high peril weapons (Trauma/Illisi)

and it's the generalist regen feat as long as you're using a peril-generating weapon

tbh, I'm actually not too informed on Warp Absorption after the buff it got

[runic hornet]

warp absorption is really freaking good until you end up in a situation where there aren't actually that many enemies that will actually die-die

[spice veldt]

I don't like Essence Harvest that much unless you're brain bursting a lot or running communion/AB

[runic hornet]

for example, say you get a multi-reaper spawn

or am i thinking of the wrong one

[spice veldt]

yeah, I'm worried about a situation where I have to 1v1 some reapers

warp absorption is the +15% toughness on warp kill

[cosmic sigil]

What is best Arco written essay?

[spice veldt]

so prob the right one you're thinking of

[spice veldt]

pour water over your socks

preferably right before you need to go outside

[runic hornet]

yeah

[near wyvern]

@spice veldt Warp Absorption is still not good, the main reason being it doesn't give you toughness when you need it the most.

The only real threat for a Psyker is a squad of ranged units that got the jump on you. They will annihilate your toughness and start chewing through your HP bar if you stay in their line of sight.

There are no good warp attacks to reliably kill a lot of ranged units in quick succession outside of 6 stack AB, therefore, Warp Absoption gives you a lot of toughness when you don't need it (clearing horde) but none when you need it the most (fighting ranged units).

With Essence Harvest you can peek with BB and finish behind cover and with Quietitude you can use BB or staff to damage the ranged units and quell in cover to recover from the worst case event.

[spice veldt]

yeah even with the illisi, it's going to be a bit inconsistent until we get a staff that's equivalent to a gun

[kind jay]

counterpoint: WA does give toughness when you need it most, during hordes + gunners

[compact cargo]

counterpoint: Get a gun

[kind jay]

counterpoint: boring

[compact cargo]

Melee psyker is never boring

[primal palm]

Melee is only true way to play any class

[kind jay]

every class is a melee class

[compact cargo]

Tide game sense of melee/not melee.

You can play 3 staffs and vet as not melee, which is what most people do.

[kind jay]

thats great that that's an option, but not everyone does it. in any case, i like wa as infinite toughness during hordes works better for me personally

[frozen osprey]

I hate france

[compact cargo]

Prefer toughness on bb on stack regen builds as the constantly increasing toughness let's you tank quite s few shots

Quietude can have a similar effect if combined with sliding to keep mobile, it also makes your f a small toughness generator, could try a build with that lvl 30 perk that shortens cooldown

[agile garden]

Should i reroll Terrifying Barrage? I am in the meat grinder and it feels like it doesn't work at all..

[halcyon root]

Yes

[kind jay]

change it to flurry and its totally solid

[cyan portal]

What are the requirements for deimos 1 shot muties? Is it actually possible without buffs?

[cosmic sigil]

I think @spice veldt has written an essay on it.

[spice veldt]

perish

[spice veldt]

if you have an 80/80/80 deimos, 4 warp charges and >75% peril (with warp unleashed) is enough to one-shot a mutant with an h2 to the weakspot

here's a stab with 4 warp charges and 72% peril (with Warp Unleashed) with a deimos that has 80/80/80 dmg/finesse/first target

[cosmic sigil]

Those textures

[spice veldt]

whatchu gon say huh

finish that sentence, why don't you

[kind jay]

looks like timesplitters 2

[compact cargo]

Runescapetide

[cosmic sigil]

... look like it's coming from a 25 yo game