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#psyker-class
olive ember
tropic mirage
Anyone had a good build for the Accatran Mk VId Recon Lasgun
olive ember
Anyone had a good build for the Accatran Mk VId Recon Lasgun
Take an autopistol build, downgrade the autopistol to a VId recon las
3-1-2-1-3-3
tropic mirage
Take an autopistol build, downgrade the autopistol to a VId recon las
Not sure I understand what you mean by downgrading
ember hornet
he is saying recon las sucks
olive ember
Recon las is probably one of the weakest guns out there
tropic mirage
mhh
ember hornet
been waiting for buffs for a long time
tropic mirage
Wanted a good gun for psyker
olive ember
Autopistol
The most broke piece of shit that vets zealots and psykers all use
Rly blessing dependent tho
Without blessing that thing is trash
raven gate
if u got a good recon lasgun. save it for a possible balance patch. other than that, they are garbage right now
olive ember
It’s a vet using it but psyker basically same effect
Slightly weaker and you can’t just eat bullets like vet but yea
tropic mirage
Ohh seems efficient
ember hornet
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/13llh0i/36_seconds_of_top_1_damnation...
really unfair comparison, it requires a lot of skill to play this well
olive ember
Pinning fire IV + blaze away III are meta blessings
olive ember
really unfair comparison, it requires a lot of skill to play this well
Gotta reload after every elite kill to make sure you don’t run out of bullets I agree
spice veldt
you wouldn't understand
ornate hamlet
PAIN REMAINS
tropic mirage
thx guys
ember hornet
they could honestly make like, difficulty 7 and vets would still trivialize it
how do you balance difficulty when you have such an overpowered class
tropic mirage
And for perks ?
ember hornet
flak + maniac or unyielding
tropic mirage
tx
ember hornet
maniac generally regarded as best on most things given the hardest difficulty is a lot of maniac spam
outside of flak that is
tropic mirage
Okay, never been on V until know staying on lvl IV
ember hornet
I would dip your feet into low intensity or regular damnation at some point
you will typically get better teammates too
raven gate
how do you balance difficulty when you have such an overpowered class
thats the neat part. you dont
ember hornet
olive ember
Not low int
ember hornet
if you roll the dreg spam version of low int
it can be kinda "hard"
but do low int anyways for plasteel
tropic mirage
I'll try that once I have a good range wep I think
compact cargo
infantry gun on psyker
it-s great
bb bulwark, 2 shot
spray into maulers
decent against shooters
favors melee psyker well
tropic mirage
With Illisi and Bloodthirsty ?
tropic mirage
mhh :/
tropic mirage
maybe i'll sway only got it TIII for now
ember hornet
T3 slaughterer very good
power buffs damage cleave and stagger
so anything that gives power
is the best
for the most part
tropic mirage
okay abd deflector ? not sure what to think aboout it
can be very useful but not sure it's worth
marsh kayak
Deflector is broken
ember hornet
deflector is OK, but still want slaughterer
marsh kayak
Legit get out of jail free card
ember hornet
I don't think deflector is that useful because force swords have infinite dodges
olive ember
Bleh more than 10 people in a room
olive ember
Deflector for the “oh shit” moment when 4 shotgunners + shooters appear behind you without sound
Also useful if you have comms and someone goes down in front of shooters
You can draw fire while someone else revives
Tho the 2nd situation is kinda niche but it’s happened before
olive ember
Rashad kekw
Imagine using the rashad when the illisi exists
But yes on the poorer classes rashad is rly good
ember hornet
Imagine using the rashad when the illisi exists
literally the only option after psword nerf
ember hornet
I could use surge or I could watch paint dry which might be more useful
spice veldt
just run into shooters and hope to regenerate more toughness than you lose
kind jay
surge will also dry your paint faster
it does that
it'll get you an A+ on your midterms
kind jay
well i tried. so obligatory pls buff surge
near wyvern
Surge lacks carry potential so that's a no for me
ember hornet
derpy currently telling recruiters about his surge prowess
ember hornet
Surge lacks carry potential so that's a no for me
I'm sorry amigo, if you can't hard carry with a staff that will make any five enemies in the game stop what they are doing and stand there for a few seconds and take damage on top of it in the time it takes you to right click, left click, and then then R. that's the definition of a player issue. The only staff that matches it in versatility is the purgatus staff. The purgatus staff just has different enemies and situations it's weak again
If i'm running surge staff I rarely get into a situation where my whole team is dead, because I have the tools that stops all the specials that suprise wipe teams. When i am in that situation pressing my F key to push/light everything around me on fire and some slash/push with my Illsi typically gives me the breathing room to go back the dogs/trappers etc under control.
What I'm getting from this is you aren't super great at melee crowd control, and that's fine a lot of people aren't, and it's a learned skill. But that's not an issue with a surge staff. It's jsut an issue that you can kind of get around with staffs like the purgatus.
raven gate
god damn. thats a novel and a half
ember hornet
it's worth
raven gate
clears throat eh he he he hem. Chatper 1
near wyvern
Yeah still a no, because you can't choose those targets
You get a crusher pack in horde and you can't stop all of them
ember hornet
it's by far the best surge copypasta
near wyvern
Trauma for me thank you
ember hornet
it's so good
near wyvern
The only enemy Trauma can't deal with is a Mutant but for that we have one shot Deimos
graceful eagle
The only enemy Trauma can't deal with is a Mutant but for that we have one shot ...
just take shredder and killl 3 mutie in 1 mag 
near wyvern
Nah, I don't want to be an ammo hungry bitch. I'd rather feed those to the stubber ogryn or bolter vet
raven gate
well trauma has another issue that surge is better. bullwarks
unfortunately. fatshark, in their infinite wisdom, decided bullwarks can block a shock from trauma staff even if its behind them so long as the player casting is in front of them
so surge is better than truama in dealing with bulllwarks
near wyvern
well trauma has another issue that surge is better. bullwarks
unfortunately. fat...
Until you find out about our lord and saviour blue fire trauma which opens bulwarks up on crits
raven gate
blue fire trauma? what r u talking bout
spice veldt
tbf. a fully charged blast under a bulwark won't do any damage, but it will guardbreak them
raven gate
yup, but u still have to full charge it. and hope its a direct hit
near wyvern
I have absolutely no problems for dealing with Bulwakrs
raven gate
and u cant direct hit multiple bullwark spam
near wyvern
Also when you time the cast on the moment they try to hit it will also open them up
near wyvern
and u cant direct hit multiple bullwark spam
No need, I can cast trauma on my team and create a safe space.
You have BB for long range can opener
raven gate
No need, I can cast trauma on my team and create a safe space.
thats a fair point. very valid when ur team is good and stays together. ....but i quickplay lol
ember hornet
tbf. a fully charged blast under a bulwark won't do any damage, but it will guar...
how to implement shields in a horde shooter
raven gate
unless they patched it. its the same thing with the zealot stun nades. if u throw them behind the bullwark. it doenst stun them so long as ur standing in front of the shield
spice veldt
yeah if their guard isn't open to you, the trauma won't do damage or knock them down
near wyvern
yeah if their guard isn't open to you, the trauma won't do damage or knock them ...
Except on crits and when they are in the attacking animation
raven gate
near wyvern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1dMBSg-PTI
It's a bit same with trauma except they turn and face the hit I think
But still calculated based on the caster not the explosion
raven gate
sadly yes
near wyvern
Also one really good aspect about Trauma is you can easily clear 3 eyes from a tentacle with one blast so it's quite easy to solo clear infestations
You just go boom boom boom and the eye comes
raven gate
didnt know that. but isnt it hard to hit since the eyes can be high off the ground
raven gate
speaking of hard to aim. trauma staff is an absolute pain to use on stairs with "holes" in their hitboxes
point surge staff!
raven gate
but i need scripts
spice veldt
do any maps without those hole stairs even exist
raven gate
the map with the giant bridge u gotta bring down. has plenty of "solid" stairs
spice veldt
close your eyes when you're walking around those stairs and they don't exist
ah the throneside maps
hell yeah play throneside maps only
cosmic sigil
God illisi with slaughterer4 and unstable 4 is a light saber
near wyvern
speaking of hard to aim. trauma staff is an absolute pain to use on stairs with ...
Just aim on the railings and little flat parts on the stairs
Same goes for things that have a metal mesh as the floor, aim for the flat sections that join the meshes
near wyvern
God illisi with slaughterer4 and unstable 4 is a light saber
Yes
cosmic sigil
I discovered that i couldn't bb through some textures that are semi-transparent
Like in chasm terminus juste before going underground there's an open area
Same with the shield like protection. you can see through the hole but not bb
spice veldt
trauma's max range is 20m-ish after which the circle will land along a spherical surface around you, so you can do some aiming with that as long as you're 20m away from enemies
cosmic sigil
Can it go through walls or doors?
spice veldt
if your line of sight is completely blocked, then no
and I think they fixed some doors being untangible
you can aim over some cover as long as it's not too tall
the outer explosion does go through walls
which is both a blessing and curse
e.g., excise vault's midevent where you can aggro elites through the walls lemayo
cosmic sigil
For the bb it's a bummer. Because los isn't blocked
ember hornet
trauma's max range is 20m-ish after which the circle will land along a spherical...
smh 20m so low, this is why I only run mg12 and IAG on zealot
how can you win game unless you can shoot from 50m
spice veldt
smh 20m so low, this is why I only run mg12 and IAG on zealot
ikr, simply too short for this game
and enemies totally not having damage falloff
ember hornet
it feels like an intervention
every time I convince a zealot not to run useless weapons
ember hornet
pls stop gatekeeping
spice veldt
gatekeep dis ass
kind jay
gottem
spice veldt
i wish i had nitro and could use that frog ass emoji
ember hornet
any weapon is damnation viable smh
just git gud
you might do 4x less damage and kills
but still viable
kind jay
mossy crag
Damnation big gay
spice veldt
that's true
spice veldt
look at all the femboys and bottoms in zealot chat
kind jay
real men play malice
ember hornet
look at all the femboys and bottoms in zealot chat
there are a lot of femboys tbh
spice veldt
mhm
karmic delta
look at all the femboys and bottoms in zealot chat
Who isnt 💀
mossy crag
Broke: fine tuning builds for damnation
Woke: firing up malice and roleplaying in chat while four gin cocktails deep
spice veldt
99.9%
karmic delta
Nah
spice veldt
no
karmic delta
Bro just queue for Heresy and you'll find better entertainment
spice veldt
but I do sit back and watch my teammates' healthbars whenever I hear a burster spawn
kind jay
same
karmic delta
Shit I encountered in Heresy makes me laugh my ass off
kind jay
I'm also a barrel enjoyer so there's that
people really like fighting next to them for some reason. not judging of course, but they're like bubble wrap to me
i just have to pop them
spice veldt
simply a skill to learn all barrel locations to not get trolled by teammates
all 100 of them in each of the 20 maps (idk how many maps there are)
kind jay
10/10
spice veldt
our player characters don't even need screams 😔
ember hornet
I was thrown off the map to my death
spice veldt
very fun to watch healthbars grey out completely and decay to 0
lucid terrace
https://streamable.com/0ogn1d
Modding your scream into the game
spice veldt
somewhat like a lower-pitched version
safe crystal
This is the first time i've seen someone pick up this much excess ammo
raven gate
wtf lol
although looks like 2 psykers? so it would make sense to constantly pick up wated ammo
safe crystal
Yah, 2 psykers, 2 vets.
Thats not a 3-1 ratio Lazorr
Tell him to get better at it
safe crystal
Nah, i was rushing in the front with a brauto, and they had camo
ember hornet
oof
raven gate
my worst "ammo" wasted experience was not even with ammo
i was zealot, with 0 nades, and there was an ogryn on the team with 1/2 nades. we had been starving for nades for a while too.
And, not to brag but I had also rescued the team from wipeout 2 or 3 times that game.
and yet the ogryn decides to grab the nades
So what happened like 3 minutes later? every1 got downed while they were split. the ogryn was surrounded by bullwarks, crushers and ome shotgunners
I coulda rezzed him....IF I HAD A BLODDY GRENADE
rant over
reef crow
this cosmetic is basically when you want go necromancer wizard style
inland flower
Worth buying, and if so what perks/blessings should be swapped? Presumably I want slaughter 4 but no clue about anything else, thankful for any suggestions
inland flower
Aight ty
What perks and blessings would I want usually, 25% flak/maniac and slaughterer/deflection?
or is deflection a meme
spice veldt
deflector is a good blessing
just that its utility gets lessened as you learn to slide and get familiar with the ranged invuln movement
I'd run deflector if I was playing to win, but I like my unstable power personally for a bit more damage
(Unstable Power stacks 4 times, gaining a stack at 20/40/60/80% thresholds. At T4, you get 5% power per stack, so up to 20% power)
inland flower
Sounds sweet, thanks
olive ember
Don’t listen to his lies
Deflector is always good
This guy takes all toughness curios AND kinetic shield AND focused channeling to cope
kind jay
wow
spice veldt
This guy takes all toughness curios AND kinetic shield AND focused channeling to...
yeah and you got sniped 4 times in a single match
kind jay
wow
olive ember
yeah and you got sniped 4 times in a single match
Eh first game back in a month and game hits me with the invisilaser snipers
Great impression
spice veldt
great impressions indeed
144p stream gaming and sniped four times
i wonder what the third time will be
spice veldt
maybe in 2 days
spice veldt
hush
kind jay
arco playing with a surge psyker? did i end up in another timeline
truly this must be an elaborate prank
frozen osprey
this cosmetic is basically when you want go necromancer wizard style
i wanna be a necromancer i wanna raise a skeleton army to trivialize combat
spice veldt
derpy hasn't surged a burster into me yet
so he's better than pub psykers for now
also look at what a beautiful game this is
crystal jolt
lego darktide
shut matrix
Kinda want my game to look like that ngl. Reminds me of weird custom maps for l4d
spice veldt
you can get that look by tinkering with these settings in your user_settings.config
lower values being lower quality it seems
whole wharf
Speaking of cosmetics, are we ever going to get a fix on the glove models for this cosmetic? I really lowkey like it and I would use it more but the clipping on the arms is so awful.
(Ingame viewmodel)
This cosmetic has had this clipping issue from since it was released as far as I can tell.
shut matrix
you can get that look by tinkering with these settings in your user_settings.con...
oh, fantastic lmao
tyty
safe crystal
also look at what a beautiful game this is
Looks a bit like TF2
spice veldt
I love me low textures
when I'm in a fight, I don't really notice it besides the colors being lighter in general and dreg enemies somewhat blending into desert maps
shut matrix
Oh god, yea what do the enemies look like
kind jay
like borderlands enemies
near wyvern
Bordertide: Clappin' Trap Edition
kind jay
Condition: Lights out + Claptrap Grounds
late yew
Warp stacks don't really matter outside of a few specific feats right?
I.e. they don't really help with breakpoints
thinking to do this build
meager cedar
That's literally me
ember hornet
Warp stacks don't really matter outside of a few specific feats right?
see pins, pretty sure it has BB breakpoints
silent coral
does item rating level affect the likelihood of getting t4 blessings?
broken carbon
does item rating level affect the likelihood of getting t4 blessings?
yeah
near wyvern
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/poll-do-you-like-the-crafting-system/80797?u=...
What is there to vote. You guys like casinos, right?
near wyvern
Warp stacks don't really matter outside of a few specific feats right?
Depends on the weapon and build, for some they are absolutely critical, for others a nice bonus.
late yew
Depends on the weapon and build, for some they are absolutely critical, for othe...
For which it is crucial?
near wyvern
For which it is crucial?
MIa needs 4 stacks up, MG IV needs 6 stacks up at all times, Blue fire Trauma needs 6 stacks up all times as some examples.
late yew
MIa needs 4 stacks up, MG IV needs 6 stacks up at all times, Blue fire Trauma ne...
soulblaze trauma? Is it not a meme?
near wyvern
It's not a meme
Also one shot Deimos required warp charges and peril, the more charges you have the less peril you need for the one shot on mutants
late yew
It's not a meme
I tried this, but was not impressed
lethal folio
It does work
late yew
What build i should go with it?
shut matrix
It does work
WHAT
meager cedar
It does work
That's hilarious
meager cedar
What build i should go with it?
If it were me I'd switch out Nexus for either Rending or Flurry, maybe change the crit chance to Flak
Though it'd be preferable to find a trauma staff with higher blast radius and charge rate
Unless you really like AB though, in which case I guess save one of the crit things at least
late yew
It's not a meme
So why 6 stacks for it?
late yew
If it were me I'd switch out Nexus for either Rending or Flurry, maybe change th...
... why would i take blazing spirit without nexus
steel flame
soulblaze trauma? Is it not a meme?
Soulblaze trauma is my go-to build for hi intensity shocktroop, though I build it different than pygex with wildfire rather than warp battery
late yew
Soulblaze trauma is my go-to build for hi intensity shocktroop, though I build i...
I don't get this build, seems to me flurry + brittle is way better
steel flame
I like using it to create space for the team since I can keep melee threats pinned while also dealing with the surrounding horde with the fire without needing to target them specifically
steel flame
I don't get this build, seems to me flurry + brittle is way better
I think it's stronger than flurry brittle trauma in my time using it. But it requires a lot more effort since you need to stay at 80% peril or more to keep the fire blazing at full strength
But it deletes hordes faster than flurry trauma for sure
meager plinth
at that point id use purg no?
steel flame
I do a lot more quarter charges and half charges with SB to get the fire going faster, and save full charges for knocking everything down
late yew
What feats you use?
steel flame
I use 311222
Because trauma tends to kill the enemies weakened by SB rather than the other way around like purge, I found I liked communion more than ult Regen to keep warp charges up
late yew
ult regen is not good with AB anyway
steel flame
It's super easy to blow up though since you need to keep your peril pegged above 80 at all times to keep them stacks flowin so originally I had ult Regen as a safety net
white sky
Any major differences between male and female seer like the other psyker voices? Leaning male seer rn, starting a magic man soon
late yew
It's super easy to blow up though since you need to keep your peril pegged above...
Not really
Just never charge above 95%
steel flame
-_- wow really?
Anyways I got better with the really fast trauma quell spam and went to communion
near wyvern
I tried this, but was not impressed
You need max charge rate, blast radius and Warp Nexus 4. Those make a HUGE difference, and you also gotta learn to quell cancel, it pumps up your DPS and toughness gen.
white sky
What're some standout psyker weapons I should look for?
Nothing too serious, just fun still while I level
I'll worry about perks and blessings when I'm 30
near wyvern
So why 6 stacks for it?
Cause you can't have +infested and +unarmoured both on, you need the +5 crit so 6 stacks for easy trash one shots and it pumps up your flames to deal almost the same as 7 stacks of Soulblaze with no charges.
near wyvern
What're some standout psyker weapons I should look for?
Illisi force sword. For staves purgatus, don't bother with other staves until 30 since they actually get penalties with low stats for some things.
steel flame
What're some standout psyker weapons I should look for?
Avoid trauma until you hit 30, it scales like garbage. Shredder auto pistol is really good, if you can get pinning fire even better. Both diemos and illi force swords are standouts. Knife can be really fun with the t4 feat kinetic deflection giving you all the block in the world and the heavy lets you dash
white sky
Avoid trauma until you hit 30, it scales like garbage. Shredder auto pistol is r...
I feel like using a gun on psyker is just
It feels weird, yk?
steel flame
It can.
white sky
Illisi force sword. For staves purgatus, don't bother with other staves until 30...
That is awful! Thank you lmao
So, purgatus staff and a force sword until 30 is ideal
steel flame
Yes. But both laspistol and shredder compliment his feats pretty well.
Some people also like the kantreal lasguns too but that's not my style
white sky
I dunno if I can gun psyker man
steel flame
Lol
One of my favorite builds uses shredder and knife.
With flayer, wrack and ruin, cerebral lacerations and kinetic barrage to make my bb deal with hordes and also massively buff my weapons damage output
It's ultra aggressive and actually pretty tanky with kinetic deflector peril block making the knife into an absolute brick wall
steel flame
That's fair enough
I only play psyker
Find vet pretty boring myself
I like the variety
dense aspen
did they add something since last year?
cosmic sigil
Maps. Crafting. Weapons.
broken carbon
every enemy is now a different breed of dog
steel flame
Space dogs, ground dogs, physics defying dogs, rubberband dogs
cosmic sigil
Fatdog
twilit flicker
Dog!
elder rain
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harsh urchin
looks nice! i would try to get a better damage roll
elder rain
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on a deimos, I would recommend slaughterer4 and deflector1-4; reasons being slaught is a little bit overtuned right now numbers-wise, it's BiS kinda like swift slaying in VT. Deflector is also important since it helps you get out of certain situations.
On that one, I would upgrade it to orange and then see what to change about it.
obtuse moth
Deflector is strictly optional and you can take something like unstable power for easier mutant one shots
idle aurora
blessings are 10/10 but perks are ooof, atleast you can reroll 1 of them
cosmic sigil
I haved infested locked an flak
terse swift
some bodyparts of elites are unarmoured so idk how it calculates the dmg when the entire thing is burning
idle aurora
what do you slap on a purgatos?
i run flak and crit chance, since crits give x2-3 burn stacks
Which is pretty nutty
terse swift
i run flak and crit chance, since crits give x2-3 burn stacks
good to know , do you know by any chance how dmg is calculated on burning enemies that have 1 bodypart or so thats unarmoured?
idle aurora
good to know , do you know by any chance how dmg is calculated on burning enemie...
Idk, but good question actually, never thought about how burn damage is decided, maybe someone will give an answer later
lethal folio
Base armour which is not equivalent to torso.
formal ridge
lmao this shredder vet
"something something Im carrying you something "
smh
yea bud you have a shredder and I could take one too but didn't
stepsis of avelon
wish I could play with only psykers
steel flame
"something something Im carrying you something "
formal ridge
every time I see a shredder vet in lobby im just going ot have to grab mine
just to shut them up
two days in a row
shredder vets talking so big
first one I did take shredder and he got schooled
second one I thought he was cool but turns out hes just another ass
steel flame
That seems very adversarial
steel flame
Ok
formal ridge
you must not play much
steel flame
I wouldn't let bother you
formal ridge
I mean I blocked him but I had to remove someone off my block list to do it
formal ridge
you must not play much
@steel flame
steel flame
.......
formal ridge
its fine I blocked you as well
steel flame
I'm not gonna lie I'm kinda chuckling right now
feral verge
I only play pubs
formal ridge
I dont remember 95% of who I blocked either, but anyone thats toxic or entitled cause they play a super meta weapon... yeah
I prefer to play with people that are cool and humble
this is a PvE game
feral verge
Idc who I play with
formal ridge
but many play it like its a teammate vs teammate
steel flame
I think I blocked one guy who was trying to sell me Aquilas
feral verge
I might make fun of them in here, but I move on. That's that
formal ridge
if I wanted to fight my teammate id go play battle royale
I guess I just have a rule now: Shredder vet in lobby? Go shredder psyker
feral verge
Idk man you letting this game get to you too much
formal ridge
this game gets super boring if you just play the same loadout every time
formal ridge
Idk man you letting this game get to you too much
that's your opinion
feral verge
And?
formal ridge
Exactly
steel flame
I just don't let it bother me. Game attracts all kinds of people not all of them are chill. It happens and move on
formal ridge
What should I do with this
steel flame
I do try to spin them up sometimes. Get a laugh out of on occasion
formal ridge
thanks
feral verge
Np
steel flame
Nice void
echo turtle
So after trying both the deimos and Illisi for a while
As much as I love the dodge of the deimos I think the Illisi is where it’s at for being able to hold it’s own and do charge attacks into crowds, where as for the deimos thats a death sentence
Anyone else come to the same or different conclusions? Am I missing some@of the merits of the deimos?
feral verge
Deimos can one shot headshot muties
With second heavy
No charge up needed
Illisi is better horde clear obvi but Deimos can stand on its own
It's not terrible at it
steel flame
I think diemos is a much better secondary weapon. It excels as a backup for more ranged builds where you can delete stuff inside your comfort zone
feral verge
Deimos is my fav weapon in the game
spice veldt
yeah ignoring your choice of ranged weapons and only looking at melee weapons, I think illisi is the best
feral verge
Illisi is better rounded
steel flame
No it's not. It's pointed
spice veldt
yeah it is an overtuned generalist
also the illisi taking significantly less brain to use
steel flame
Can't argue with that
feral verge
I love deimos cuz it's brain on
Balances well with purga (my main staff) cuz it's brain off
The only brain on thing with purga is quick swapping for a stun
spice veldt
same, except with the trauma
no brain needed for positioning or being careful around dropdowns
besides aiming
and it means I can give up stam or kinetic deflection for more toughness
so I can have less brain around shooters
feral verge
There's a lot of purga staff users doing the same shit as surge staff users
Using it on solitary/isolated trash mobs
When they should just melee it
It's probably falling in deaf ears but I've been trying to tell them in game to melee more
I used to use staff all the time, and it really hurt my gameplay
Ppl need to melee more
spice veldt
I've been trolled by Purg LMB spammers who knock enemies around and make my melee miss headshots
thanks for having my back I guess
I just hope and pray that my melee will wow them into using the illisi
feral verge
I just hope and pray that my melee will wow them into using the illisi
I kinda hope the same thing
That they see me go hard/doing well and they'll try to emulate it
spice veldt
there was a consignment yard game where two Purg users just held W along with me and a zealot, and they did a nice job of staggering shooter groups even if they only spammed the LMB for the most part
yeah
feral verge
I kinda learned to dodge more from you, btw. I emulated you
spice veldt
hell yeah
feral verge
Because I saw a clip you posted of just slide dodging like mad
spice veldt
was it my facts and logic
feral verge
Around shooters
spice veldt
o one of the others
feral verge
It was back when illisi and Deimos first came out I think
I was like oh damn I can do that, I didn't realize I could go so crazy with it
I was dodging back then, obvi, just not like that
spice veldt
yeah, I guess people just need to see an example of what they can do to get it
feral verge
Facts
spice veldt
and all it cost was holes in my pants
kind jay
sometimes you just gotta pick up the squad off the floor
didnt know Floortank got put in the game
spice veldt
wow your teammates are so helpful, letting you get the revive penance
kind jay
i know right
spice veldt
my damage taken is pretty good these days, though it was kinda bad back even when I knew to dodge-slide
cuz sometimes I straight up turned my brain off and didn't look at what enemies were around me
so I'd watch over old footage and see me stare straight at crusher or whatever and apparently not notice it
vale viper
WAIT. . .
You can only get warp flurry from and for the respective staff you break down for it!?
feral verge
You can only get warp flurry from and for the respective staff you break down fo...
Yes
kind jay
im generally good about not taking damage until the game decides that swapping weapons is just not a thing im allowed to do
vale viper
That is the lamest shit considering how other ranged weapons work.
feral verge
im generally good about not taking damage until the game decides that swapping w...
The game eats my inputs all the time
It seems to happen the most when I have 'brain burst hands' out,
spice veldt
i think it's related to holding LMB or RMB when you have it out
i haven't had it happen in a while (get rekt) since I have fairly clean inputs, since while my attention isn't dedicated to looking around me, it is dedicated to having good inputs
besides the general server lag of course
it is actually tilting
feral verge
Can we ban this guy
olive ember
eh
this game is like
super brain off
just like kill things
before they kill you
feral verge
Okay malice gamer
feral verge
https://tenor.com/view/stick-bug-stick-bugged-bug-dancing-bug-dancing-gif-180599...
I don't appreciate being stickbugged
minor verge
What would you guys reccomend i replace exorcist with, and should i change or keep the current attributers (+8 Melee agaisnt Elite | +10 Melee against Weakspot, apologies for having my game set to german)
spice veldt
if you're going for something for more offensive and you use your sword occasionally for more than a few enemies, then I'd swap it for slaughterer
if your sword is something that you only bring out for specialists or 1-2 times a mission, then maybe unstable power
+weakspot damage is generally regarded as not very good, as it adds a multiple of the bonus weakspot damage, rather than the entire weakspot damage that you do, and the value is low
+maniac or +flak is nice
I personally prefer +maniac
minor verge
aight thanks for the advice
olive ember
@spice veldt what are you on
literally always slaughterer
one slaughterer is 15% power, you only need two kills to beat unstable power at its highest
idk what his staff is but if its purge staff then his fire procs will literally proc slaughterer for him
spice veldt
there people who only whip out their force sword like once or twice a mission
minor verge
is deflector also viable or wouldnt you reccomend it?
spice veldt
so you never know
olive ember
force sword BiS blessing is always slaughterer + wte
minor verge
@olive ember how tf did you know im maining purg you wizard
spice veldt
jedi mind tricks
olive ember
because most peopel who run deimos are running some kind of BS horde control
like purge
otherwise the illisi is just better in 90% of circumstances
spice veldt
deflector is a nice blessing to have
olive ember
its nice to have but not before slaughterer
its always slaughterer first
and then wte you want after
spice veldt
just that the sentiment you'll see on this server is that it's not needed since the people who say that prob have at least a hundred hours
minor verge
whee i have 130h so might still be needed but i'll see
spice veldt
yeah and you're also derpyslurpee
olive ember
yeah and?
spice veldt
derpy "sniped 4 times in a single mission" slurpee
minor verge
still looking for a better purg staff tho, my current ones are one that the special shop dude had yesterday and one i just dropped
olive ember
derpy "sniped 4 times in a single mission" slurpee
don't you love invislazor bullshit
spice veldt
fair and balanced
olive ember
Basically BiS FS blessings is slaughterer + unstable power/uncanny strike/deflector
spice veldt
the grind for staffs suck
minor verge
(20% Sprint[gonna get replaced] | 8% dregs and poxwalkers)
olive ember
I value deflector over 20% more power at max and extra rending on crushers I can already one or two shot or BB
spice veldt
Burn and Cloud Radius are the priority stats on purg
olive ember
76+ burn to hit max stacks and 80 cloud radius
minor verge
(6% drags and poxwalkers , 25% ill or infested enemies idk what its called)
olive ember
then after that I would say damage is next important followed by warp resist and finally quell speed at the very back end
perks you want flak + maniac/crit chance/unyielding
spice veldt
infested enemies is probably the right word
meager plinth
soulblaze already kill crowds fast, if you want to kill em faster equip a melee with power% blessings
minor verge
so statwise the second one even tho currently purple is better i guess?
since the other one only has 68 burn
spice veldt
I personally prioritize cloud radius (range) over burn
since most enemies die before you reach max stacks (besides elites), or the difference is mostly negligible
but it is only a difference of 6% in cloud radius
minor verge
well they will have to do till i drop something better, thanks for the advice
meager plinth
an illisi with slaugherer n unstable power with flak/maniac is a really good driver for soulblaze
olive ember
unstable power rly doesn't make a difference unless you really want to hit the one hit breakpoints for like
reapers and crushers or wte with the illisi
warp unleashed by itself with slaughterer is enough of a boost for soulblaze if you really want to boost it
meager plinth
I use wildfire, so I give as much as I can for my soulblaze stack so they keep on eating
minor verge
talking about the illisi pretty good shop roll i'd say
meager plinth
apply a full charge in a horde, use ability then switch to melee so it melts
olive ember
wildfire
meager plinth
yea that is perfect, try to max that one our to see your other blessings n perks 
olive ember
oh boy
minor verge
im missing something about 900 palasteel to max it
im poor af
and i dont even have slaughterer for the power sword obtained yet
olive ember
Wildfire is just
super jank
Only useful if you aren't using purge, but AB autopistol builds use flayer iirc so the only actually useful application of wildfire is for blazing nexus staff builds
tho I have seen one guy swear by wildfire on purge but
¯_(ツ)_/¯
on paper theres no reason to actually use wildfire like ever
meager plinth
if you boost the damage through power% and perks, it lets you cleave through hordes really fast
minor verge
im almost only using purge and this is my go to
halcyon root
if you boost the damage through power% and perks, it lets you cleave through hor...
You mean an Illis sword?
meager plinth
much faster than an illisi
halcyon root
You mean an Illis sword?
spice veldt
purg by itself pretty good at applying soulblaze, though I suppose it extends the range by 5m
minor verge
technically for ascendant blaze 6 warp stacks might be better but the random bb saved me so many times i wont get rid of it
spice veldt
I would reckon that purg is already good enough at applying at least 4 soulblaze stacks as long as they're near you
meager plinth
Personally, I apply a burst of soulblaze then switch to illisi so I can deal with tougher enemies while the soulblaze keeps thinning the horde
thats how I like to use it
olive ember
Idk what tougher enemies you are fighting ngl
purge will kill everything besides ogryns and mutant
meager plinth
those + ragers
minor verge
mauler can take a while but yeah he also gets staggered alot
spice veldt
maulers having higher HP and their god damn carapace heads
olive ember
ragers can get staggered if they aren't in attack animation and they are also alot squishier than maulers
typically aren't a problem unless they are up in my face
meager plinth
it ends up being preferences in the end, I dont like sitting still just using using the staff over and over again till everything dies
minor verge
yOu cAn aLsO ReLy oN YoUr tEaMmAtEs
halcyon root
No
spice veldt
I don't run AB or communion with purg, so I prefer flayer for warp charges
olive ember
Some people swear by it but personally every time I use it I’m underwhelmed
minor verge
ive tried it but i prefer being saved by a random ass bb
although the 6 stacks might somehow be better
olive ember
6 stack purge is the meta because with 6 stacks you can burn down shooter packs unconditionally
halcyon root
Its underwhelming and warp charges are better. I'd rather CC a large group of specials with Surge and rely on Illis for punishment
halcyon root
But my reference is damnation HI (ST whenever it rarely comes up)
And my team generally includes a very talented bolter vet (lul) and an ogryn who loves his cleaver so you wont get a chance to burn much of anything
spice veldt
infinite cleave is still quite useful
though if you already have two decent players, then anything else is not needed
halcyon root
At that difficulty you either want to CC specials or kill them immediately. Not wait for them to burn.
spice veldt
yes, and I'm sure that specials constitute 100% of the mission
halcyon root
They constitute to failures of a mission
And if you dont believe that you're a fool
spice veldt
better to rush through the map and not have to worry about getting overwhelmed with infinite cleave
minor verge
And with power you can kill up to shotgunners iirc
can confirm just tried it out in
spice veldt
you already have a bolter vet and some other teammates to take care of specials
autumn spire
what do you guys think? Are either of the blessings on the left worth buying the sword for
spice veldt
you also have your melee to kill specials
do you really think that ranged is your only way to kill specials or what?
halcyon root
Correct but they cant kill 7-8 of them at once
spice veldt
why are you stalling specials so much that 7-8 of them are building up at the same time
spice veldt
yeah and specials still spawn one-by-one
halcyon root
What arguement are you trying to make here
spice veldt
instead of spawning all at once from different closet doors
spice veldt
they spawn continuously, but they'll still come out of closets one-by-one
halcyon root
What are you even arguing here, for real.
spice veldt
kill specials before they build up
halcyon root
Are you doing this for the sake of arguing?
spice veldt
DPS before anything else
no
I just don't understand the mentality of CC when you can just kill
halcyon root
You're wrong. In Shock Gauntlet they spawn in packs. The voice overs even call these out.
spice veldt
they don't all come out of the closet at the exact same time
halcyon root
Again, you're wrong. They spawn in packs.
spice veldt
i think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying
cold geode
all out dps is great to kill things, but when an 8 pack of crushers shows up and we dont have the raw dps needed to take them all out instantly, my zealots crusher cc's them until they are all dead
spice veldt
other times that's just because of different movement speeds
halcyon root
they prioritize targets and kill them, but while a dog is jumping them and a mutant is charging them they would prefer I shock them stunning them over just lighting them on fire
spice veldt
or melee the mutant yourself
cold geode
in a vacuum, pure dps is great, but were not in a vacuum
spice veldt
or melee the dog yourself
spice veldt
or bring a gun
spice veldt
mhm
i can make as bad as an argument as them when their only argument is "i play in a premade"
I have no desire to engage honestly with those people
minor verge
jesus calm down sibling
spice veldt
no
halcyon root
lmao he mad
forest coral
no angy
viral acorn
Guys what if we all like
meager plinth
forest coral
only madge
viral acorn
ate dinnur together
minor verge
just for clarification high st is the thing where more elites spawn?
or hi st however you call it
meager plinth
ate dinnur together
good idea sibling
viral acorn
I may start leveling a psyker but until then I'll be the funny little zealot in a corner eating today's dinner
north cradle
what do you guys think? Are either of the blessings on the left worth buying the...
I'd say no, since Psykers are typically encouraged to have high Peril if they're running Warp Unleashed (you should do), and Blazing Spirit isn't really that good unless you're running a funny meme build with Bloodthirsty.
If you want Soulblaze, you're probably also running Ascendent Blaze. If you're running Ascendent Blaze, you already can zap the entire melee crowd with your ult. This goes double if you're using Purgatus since you can torch the entire room
meager plinth
the main argument I got for wildfire is this, which works albeit exagerated in this scenario
north cradle
Bloodthirsty on Illisi though, you could have fun with that. Slice open a few mobs to take care of those pesky Maulers and Ragers
meager plinth
while the wildfire spreads im completely free to do other things
north cradle
Probably the only thing keeping me from using Wildfire on my Purgatus loadout is that I don't hit Specialist breakpoints with Brain Burst without Warp Battery
minor verge
i mean the horde is still coming at you isnt it?, even tho it will slowly die out youll also have to keep them away from you using sword i guess and if some elites show up then it might be rip but i havent tested wildfire out that much,
your experience has more value than my doubt
north cradle
You can stagger the horde just by casting near them so that helps
minor verge
but if you keep up the shooting why even bother waiting for it to spread
north cradle
I think the exaggeration part comes from the fact that most players would fan the flames as fast as they can wiggle their mouse for maximum spread
Wildfire I always thought of as a way to thin out shooters
spice veldt
it idealistically extends the range of purg so there's that as well
minor verge
does wildfire only spread when dying to soulblaze or when afflicted by it cuz in the german description its the second one but ive seen people say it only spreads when the enemy dies to the effect
meager plinth
it evens out your damage over a large aoe
spice veldt
i think the killing blow can be from anything
if it works anything like ascendant blaze
i've always just let it die from soulblaze
minor verge
well i have time to try it out later but now im just waiting for one more shop reset and then ima go offline its 4am for me already ...
meager plinth
but at the same time I could of just used a shredder and shoot 2 times after apply 6 stacks with battery and AB 
north cradle
Also I'm starting to think I haven't been giving Deimos enough credit. This thing can one-shot Mutants if you poke them in the back with the charged second heavy
I could even one-shot Ragers with an uncharged second heavy
echo turtle
im almost only using purge and this is my go to
I tried a new set up with the purge and it worked great.
Took kinetic barrage, wildfire and psykinetic aura
with a slaughterer illisi
I found especially with wildifre and slaughterer you don’t really need the ult to spread fire at all, Barrage was great for CC and dropping elites
minor verge
deimos is my personal favourite, and although the stupid reason for it is that it looks the coolest, it has its perks, with uncanny strike 4 you can kill a mauler in one charged hit to the face and a heavy follow up, aswell as killing a crusher with one charged, one light and one heavy
minor verge
but it makes your armor pen higher which is good against maulers and crushers
echo turtle
only on your followup
minor verge
and it builds up stacks with the charged one
minor verge
i can test it although i cant make a recording
lethal cave
Wh
Hadron what the hell
Hadron just gave me bonkers perks on a dookie staff
https://i.imgur.com/jryjoVY.png
echo turtle
uncanny 4 got an extra 100 damage on a mauler heavy strike headshot
lethal cave
Also, is Warp Nexus meant to also say "Power" I assume?
spice veldt
probably roughly +50% damage since force sword heavies deal 65% dmg to carapace
echo turtle
unstable would have givin more damage, as it would have applied to the charge hit to
spice veldt
nah warp nexus is crit chance
minor verge
so when i do the charged hit to the head im at 4 stacks of uncanny, then i do a light one in the air doing nothing and the 2nd heavy just did 1024 but with a crit
without its ~880
echo turtle
probably roughly +50% damage since force sword heavies deal 65% dmg to carapace
it can get up to +50% on a heavy yeah. But unstable gives a bonus to the charge strike which does several times the amount of a heavy
lethal cave
That brings up a good question
where are you meant to report localization/textual errors like that anyways
echo turtle
so an extra 140 on 88
880
thats, shy of 20%
but you got 0% on the charge attack
Just saying, this weapon with it’s amazing AP, gets very little benefit from Uncanny
I’m testing it right now myself
not much of a bnos
lethal cave
So, I should finally ask
Psykinetic's Aura for the feat cd, or BB's on all enemy kills?
I've been running the latter to basically never have to care about mandatorily BBing people to keep it up
spice veldt
I personally like aura for having my ult come back slightly faster, though I run Kinetic barrage which doesn't use up warp charges
minor verge
when i only do the 2nd charged attack my damage is 613 but after having the 5 stacks its 878 so 878/613 is ~43%
spice veldt
and I run Flayer instead for warp charge gen
echo turtle
So, I should finally ask
Psykinetic's Aura for the feat cd, or BB's on all enemy...
This is the build I was just using, and enjoyed it a lot (purgatus)
minor verge
im not all that into the calculations so i might not have understood what you meant
lethal cave
Oooh, not Essence Harvest?
I haven't not used EH in a very long time I might try this out
echo turtle
EH is good
you need to generate a lot of charges tho to make it worth
consider absorption gets you 15 instant health on a BB, and EH gets you 30 over time
unless you are running a build that keeps EH like always procced, you are better with the alternatives
lethal cave
's sort of my justification for taking the charges on coherency kills
just farming toughness endlessly essentially, and that 5 second CD keeps getting refreshed
echo turtle
This is my experience having run EH the majority of the time I played psyker
its good with a soulblaze build
if you are expending charges on your ult
you have a reason to generate lots for offensive pwer and regen
lethal cave
Soulblaze was my go-to for a long time yeah
's mostly that I kind of wanted to move off a purg build because it feels like that's all most psykers use rn, so I was aiming for a different one
echo turtle
I used to run communion, battery, AB together with EH for that
I wouldn't personally run EH outside of a purge build
lethal cave
Battery is a very interesting perk imo
Because there's a cool idea there but the actual gain being only 4% per charge makes it very... meh, feeling
echo turtle
battery is very good
spice veldt
though as a global damage buff, it's pretty good
spice veldt
with warp unleashed at 0% peril, that's +34% damage by default
echo turtle
I am only not running it rn as I am using wildfire
lethal cave
I guess it's maybe because I run wildfire instead, which just
I guess feels more effective overall?
I've obv never done testing but that extra 8% doesn't ever seem super useful at least
echo turtle
it is
when you have + power it makes a big difference
it also in tandem with unleashed gets you above BB breakpoints
1 hit ragers and flamers
I am pretty sure you can 1 hit ragers when everything is lined up near the max
I swear I have been doing it
lethal cave
I could be wrong but I think you can 1 hit them with just WU at higher perils
Nope I stand corrected
1263, just barely not enough to 1hit them with just WU
1300 with full 4 charges even, so still just not enough
echo turtle
yeah
battery is good
lots of good options rn
except for quicken
it still sucks
Psyker is so much better rn in general
lethal cave
Also, I remember people talking about sprinting with staff canceling
Did FS rollback that? 's not doing it for me anymore at least
spice veldt
they fixed it
or well, sprinting while charging can be done again now
not sure about any sprint-cancelling tech
on the plus side, you can sprint while charging with the voidstrike now
spice veldt
like a stam curio in place of kinetic deflection or both together?
you could go for it as a safety sort of thing or to run into shooters more safely (or run away if things go gnarly)
hollow steeple
oh yeah, that's the stuff
echo turtle
like a stam curio in place of kinetic deflection or both together?
In place of deflection, I want to keep kinetic shield
I suppose i coooould just run deflection again
spice veldt
part of the reason why I can forgo kinetic deflection is that I run the trauma to get revives off and to cover myself whenever I get overwhelmed by ragers
I guess maybe the ult can buy some space revives if needed
but you do lose out on the ability to always revive in a horde without a specific ranged choice
hollow steeple
actually what the fuck, do you just not ever need to charge the deimos except against bosses?
this thing is 1-tapping basically everything on damnation except maulers and ogryns
spice veldt
the deimos/obscurus special has mediocre DPS against everything except flak enemies
besides the 200% flak damage, the only thing worth mentioning is the stagger
kind jay
yes, deimos strength is in the strong l1 and h2
no need for special unless you want to meme
hollow steeple
alright, well at least I have a good one now
echo turtle
yes, deimos strength is in the strong l1 and h2
is that a stab into a stab?
maybe i need to give the deimos a go again I really enjoy the dodges
echo turtle
actually what the fuck, do you just not ever need to charge the deimos except ag...
I was finding charging it often got me killed
hollow steeple
i have literally only played one round with it so far and I found that yeah, I got bonked when trying to charge it
but I didn't realize it was THAT good uncharged
it feels way overtuned compared to the Illisi, and I thought the Illisi was stupid good haha
and unlike the obscurus, it doesn't feel like it's garbo vs hordes
one-tapping all trash mobs as long as you aim at head-level is surprisingly good at wave clear
kind jay
is that a stab into a stab?
yep
its a poking stick. poke things and watch them vaporize
kind jay
it feels way overtuned compared to the Illisi, and I thought the Illisi was stup...
illisi can oneshot pretty much all the same things deimos can
theyre both nearly equal in performance
hollow steeple
the number of times i've found myself scrambling to get off 2 specials in a row on my illisi so I can kill a mutant or rager is too damn high
the deimos wrecks them
but I agree that the Illisi is super good
it feels much safer in hordes than the deimos does because I can't stagger stuff unless I push with the deimos
kind jay
i prefer illisi because im a dirty surge main
hollow steeple
oh totally fair
when it's your primary damage source, yeah, the illisi is the play
kind jay
but i regularly swap between both
hollow steeple
but I generally run purgatus or trauma
and deimos makes up for their weaknesses (big single target damage for taking big targets that either staff isn't particularly good at killing quickly)
smoky wigeon
Do my sword attacks that are like imbued with warp count for that toughness warp kills feat?
spice veldt
ye
all force sword specials count for warp absorption
fun fact: illisi's special used to not count for it, though that's been fixed since
compact cargo
If you don't gwt hit in melee, you don't need toughness, just get more sprint efficiency into your curios 
echo turtle
pt3 in my saga of getting pretty good rolls on devil claws
one day those swords gonna slap
smoky wigeon
Should I stack Toughness on my curios as a Psyker?
shy prairie
what resource do you value more
do you find yourself getting your toughness shredded, or ending up in hp territory
echo turtle
Should I stack Toughness on my curios as a Psyker?
I personally like 2 toughness and 1 health to give a bit more buffer for pox bursters and taking hits after toughness breaks
I also run toughness regen and kinetic shield myself to be a bit more durable
spice veldt
maybe health as you're just starting out
if you're not trading that much toughness against ranged enemies (playing aggressive against ranged) and taking continuous hits in melee, then health may end up being better usually
though even in melee, I think it's nice having more buffer and toughness regen from melee kills
echo turtle
Yeah, thats a good way to look at it
seeing, what is killing you and adjust to mitigate that
dying to close combat a lot, get some health
being shot to death a lot, maybe more toughness
I am of the opinion the class is too squishy to be able to give up health or toughness for a wound curio
cyan portal
Built and played right the psyker is the most tanky, built or played wrong it is very fragile.
The psyker kit is built around preventing damage, rather than sucking it up like the other three classes can.
smoky wigeon
Hmmm interesting. Only lvl 11 and my survivability is decent
restive slate
If you got the positioning, dodging and crowd control down. You don't really need any extra durability
Maybe sniper resistance, those always catch one off guard
raven gate
neither is meta but they should both be viable with the right build
im not an expert on dueling swords so i cant rlly speak on those but ur prob better off with a demios instead
left crater
i personally run an illisi, but am interested in trying new things. variety and all that. saw these two gems in the shop and wanna know if they are worth a buy
spice veldt
duelling swords have good mobility and block cost; they have mediocre single target and below average hordeclear
before the deimos came along, they were chosen for their mobility
compact cargo
Rashad go brrr
left crater
so unless i want it to sprint/dodge around with, avoid the dueling sword.
what about the exe?
vestal raven
now that is a staff
steel flame
duelling swords have good mobility and block cost; they have mediocre single tar...
honey we have the combat knife at home. The combat knife at home: dueling sword
steel flame
I can make my knife do funny flips.abd spins . I don't see saber twirling anywhere
spice veldt
that's the price we pay with handguards and hand safety okay
cosmic sigil
1 run 2 hp and 1 stam. But i use mostly essence harvest in my 2 builds. Shredder and Purgatus.
I never had a good experience with full tg on any character.
formal ridge
idk about warp flurry on voidstrike, it gets an extra 1 full charge + 3 small ones, but how valuable is that really. I didnt time the differences
undoubtedly is more damage before quelling
but more fun before quelling is what I want
transfer peril is good with left click, but charged shots dont always hit weakspot
floral relic
So I finally reached lv 30, and I want to start doing Difficulty 4
But I feel like it’s still too hard for me
Not sure if it’s a gear issue, skill issue, or simply the lack of team mates
vestal raven
tier 4 is a good step up from 3
floral relic
I guess gear issue is the easiest to fix, are there any tips for how to build a gear set?
floral relic
Yeah
spice veldt
hope you get good items in the Requisition, dump your dockets into Brunt's Armoury, hope you get good blessings from Melk, hope you get good consecrations, have a lot of hope
floral relic
Yeah, also I feel like I still don’t know how to use any of the staffs
spice veldt
strongest illisi user be like https://streamable.com/tb0hug
floral relic
So I might want to just start with a Gun Psyker build focused on Illisi
vestal raven
Yeah, also I feel like I still don’t know how to use any of the staffs
only way to get better is to use them
left crater
illisi plus shredder pistol is a very strong and braindead build i like running
spice veldt
purg is hopefully get into range of everything and RMB
if enemies are getting into your range, LMB them instead for the stagger
floral relic
hope you get good items in the Requisition, dump your dockets into Brunt's Armou...
Also I feel like my problem now is, even if I saw good items, I don’t know they are good and miss them
I don’t really know how to tell apart a good piece and a shit one
For example Illisi, what do I want on it?
spice veldt
a starting point is to get a gist of what each stat does, which you can do by inspecting a weapon (press V) while in your inventory and hovering over each stat
floral relic
I see
spice veldt
on the illisi, warp res and mobility are generally the dump stats (stats that you don't mind lacking)
vestal raven
What does dump mean again?
the stat u dont care about
mobility is universally accepted as a good dumb stat
spice veldt
yeah for pretty much most melee weapons
floral relic
I see, I always tought like, Dump means you dunp all points into that stat lmao
spice veldt
yeah it's rather ambiguous terminology
on the force swords, you can afford to give up on warp res
floral relic
I see
spice veldt
on the Obscurus/Deimos, more so since the special is more niche
restive slate
strongest illisi user be like https://streamable.com/tb0hug
Sus Illisi
floral relic
What are the other 2 things about a piece again?
2 Blessings and 2 Talents?
spice veldt
on the Illisi you may or may not want higher warp res depending on how much you're spamming the special
2 blessings and 2 perks ye
floral relic
2 Perks and 2 Blessings
spice veldt
perks are fairly consistent between melee weapons on psyker
floral relic
Are elites and specialists the same thing?
vestal raven
no
spice veldt
if you're not a gunpsyker, you'll usually want +maniac/+flak on your melee weapons
vestal raven
i believe that elites are the more high close range dmg, and special are disablers?
i think
spice veldt
Sus Illisi
pro gaming
floral relic
Is there a place I can find a list of all enemy types and armor types?
spice veldt
the rule of thumb is that elites pre-spawn on the map and aren't immediately aggroed onto you
floral relic
i believe that elites are the more high close range dmg, and special are disable...
Yeah I think so
spice veldt
specialists will spawn according to timers and are usually always aggroed onto you immediately (with the exception of the Sniper, who kinda just sits there until you enter his line of sight)
floral relic
if you're not a gunpsyker, you'll usually want +maniac/+flak on your melee weapo...
For example, what's Flak?
Manic is the dudes with 2 axe and make you become a sus illisi right?
vestal raven
Is there a place I can find a list of all enemy types and armor types?
google lol
spice veldt
i'm not sus 🥺
you could also whack a bunch of enemies in the psykanium and it'll tell you the armour type
enemies also have locational armour types (e.g., Unarmoured head but Flak torso)
vestal raven
^
spice veldt
but yeah, those naked dual-wielding dudes are an example of maniac enemies
floral relic
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies
Thanks!
floral relic
you could also whack a bunch of enemies in the psykanium and it'll tell you the ...
I see cool
I think Flak is like the "mid armor" and Carapace is the "haha BB go boom"?
floral relic
but yeah, those naked dual-wielding dudes are an example of maniac enemies
I see, in theory, can you use Illisi to push them?
I think the 2nd half the Illisi's push can stagger them?
spice veldt
yeah, the push-attack of force swords will stagger all enemies except shielded bulwarks and mutants (and bosses, except an unshielded Assassination boss)
it's somewhat risky to push them because your block drops for a slight moment when doing the push-attack
so you do have to time it a little bit, but it does buy you some space if you need it
it's what I do since I don't run any stamina and get punished extremely hard if ragers ever get close to me
floral relic
I see, also I think Force Sword's pushes are a bit weird
As in, the first-half of the push is not actually a "push", but a massive AOE stagger
Where the push-attack does no damage, but is a very fucking powerful push?
spice veldt
yeah, the push is the same as every other melee weapon where it's a 360-degree stagger, with the strength being the highest in a frontal angle and being weaker to your sides and back
the push-attack is a single-target strong stagger that deals no damage
floral relic
Hun never knew it's single target