psyker-class

[echo turtle]

I don’t exactly gollow

follow

the wildfire build is lit tho

you using an illisi or deimos?

[ionic frost]

like no bonuses from +power, but if it spread the 4 warp chages to all enemies without them getting less than 4 warp charges could do it

i've used both

but i like deimos with purg

so I kill everything =)

gonna run to the store i'll be back in a bit

[burnt maple]

every time i've tried it's not been too exciting, maybe i'm using the wrong weapon/build

[echo turtle]

you need a few things to make it work.

a sword with slaughterer makes the 4 stacks do a ton of damage, then all you do it trigger your ult and kill a couple things and it literally kills everything it touchs.

meanwhile it refreshes slaughterer so you are walking around with +75% power

killing the guys in fire makes it keep spreading too

[burnt maple]

i assume Blazing Spirit on the sword doesn't matter?

[echo turtle]

its just a wild feedbalck loop

you don’t take that no

you take slaughterer and unstable power or deflector

[burnt maple]

illisi or deimos?

[echo turtle]

slaughterer 4 is essential

either, tho I have come to prefer the deimos

both work fine

the illisi has better regen with warp absorption

the deimos has better single target and dodging

[burnt maple]

what's the build you're using? aside from ascendant blaze

[echo turtle]

i posted it above

pictures

search by my name you’ll see it

[burnt maple]

hmm doesn't seem to work very well in the pskyanium, i'll have to try it in the field

[silent coral]

Ive been playing around with the void strike staff and liking it a lot but what perks and blessings should i aim for? the only blessing that i know i should get is trnasfer peril

[burnt maple]

Warp Flurry

[broken quail]

Transfer peril will let you spam it infinetly without the reduced peril with warp charge talent

[burnt maple]

it's pretty fun, make sure you try for headshots

[silent coral]

perks for voidstrike? i heard people say unyielding + manic?

[broken quail]

Nah, it doesn't have the DPS to meaningfuly damage either of those. I run either flak, unarmored, and sometimes an elite or specialist

[burnt maple]

i would probably do flak and unarmored

unarmored and flak will help you clear hordes and dreg gunners

[broken quail]

flak + elite just to clear shotgunners

[tropic vigil]

ascendant blaze + sword w/ slaughterer and unstable is insane

i dont think you even need to use purgatus can probably have a broken AP build, i would imagine someone has already

[broken quail]

unstable power good or just cause you trying to max DPS. I kept trying to make slaughterer + rending headshots work but couldn't justify the rending given the force attack

[tropic vigil]

It will be fun to try out once new map allows hi intensity

[obtuse moth]

deimos works pretty well with rending on the force attack ye, but since its really only for crushers id rather have unstable power

[tropic vigil]

I've gotten in the habit of just shoving them to the ground

[echo turtle]

it gets even crazier with wildfire

[echo turtle]

rending adds like almost no damage with the force swords

[spice veldt]

it's a bit better on the deimos since it takes the normal heavy from 65% to 100% against carapace

[echo turtle]

yeah but the charge attack gains nothing from that I am oretty sure

it’s only the non charged heavies that get a bonus

[spice veldt]

yeah not for the special-heavy

[echo turtle]

so you’re better off with unstable, if you already have slaughterer

BiS slaught. Then Deflector/Unstable for second pick

nothing else Seems to even come close

maybe like exorcism for added regen

and quelling

[steel flame]

That's how I run my fire trauma build

[echo turtle]

you don’t need it, but it works well

[formal ridge]

rending on illisi only makes sense for mixed hoards imo

love it when zero vets on a team have an anti-shooter build

[formal ridge]

because you can both heavy and light headshots and expect 100% damage across targets

[ionic frost]

sigh Darktide staff can't spell anything right. They are relieved of duty.

[fathom adder]

Darkitde*

[obtuse moth]

it did when i tested it unless im misremembering @spice veldt

the whole point of people recommending uncanny afaik was so that the empowered hits could oneshot crushers (i don't use it)

[spice veldt]

the deimos/obscurus' special deals 100% to carapace already

[obtuse moth]

only illisi's doesn't?

[spice veldt]

yep, illisi's does 75% to carapace

footage demonstrating illisi's 75% to carapace (special-light and special-heavies have the same armour mods), with t4 uncanny strike https://streamable.com/s70c14

footage demonstrating deimos' 100% to carapace https://streamable.com/tj18zz

warp unleashed being taken off, no warp charges, and neither of the force swords having unstable power or some other blessing, as indicated in the lower-left

[near wyvern]

This line. This is the way.

[shadow onyx]

why unstable over bloodthirsty on ilisi ?

[obtuse moth]

ah i must have tested it on illiisi, my bad

[spice veldt]

I like unstable since it doesn't have the kill condition, so you'll get the boost when fighting bosses and whatnot

the damage isn't too different

bloodthirsty is nice if you're killing a mixed horde with elites in and if you can make sure that they're part of the first three targets

but I think I prefer unstable overall

[silent coral]

Is there one force sword mk that is better than the other 2? or do they all have different niches?

[spice veldt]

well, there is one force sword mark that is worse than the other two, and that's the obscurus MKII

illisi and deimos are both very good

two of the best melee weapons in the game currently

deimos' first light deals 2x damage than the usual heavies, and the second heavy deals 2.5x damage than the usual heavies

[silent coral]

is ilisi the generalist while deimos the one for single target dmg?

[spice veldt]

yeah that's how you could describe it

deimos' hordeclear is still fine by just spamming lights

with deimos, you can usually make up the hordeclear with whatever staff you're running (except surge)

[near wyvern]

Yeah it's pretty much:

• Trauma & Purge: Deimos
• Void: Illisi/Deimos
• Surge: Illisi
• Any gun: Illisi

[unborn basalt]

What should I be speccing on my curios? toughness or health?

[floral relic]

How good is Deimos’s single target burst?

I feel like I try to spam charged heavy

But I take a lot of damage because of the animation lock

[spice veldt]

oh, you usually don't need to use the special-heavy

the 2nd normal heavy is what's particularly good about it

since that's the one that deals 2.5x damage compared to the normal sweeping heavies

[floral relic]

I see

[spice veldt]

make sure to aim at heads with it to take advantage of the force swords' rather high weakspot multiplier on their normal attacks

you can one-shot mutants on damnation with a 2nd heavy headshot for example, though I don't know the setup myself

there are two main reasons as to why you would use the special on the deimos/obscurus

• It has good stagger. This is nice if you're fighting a lone melee elite.
• The special deals 200% damage specifically to Flak Armoured enemies like Scab Ragers and Scab Maulers (except their head), so there is a bit of a damage advantage to it.
  But like you've experienced, it locks you in place, so it's pretty risky to do

[spice veldt]

depends; I personally stack toughness, though I have a bunch of hours and don't really have trouble in melee or with enemies that annihilate your toughness (snipers, flamers, bombers, etc.).

health is a fairly safe recommendation from me

[obtuse moth]

either is fine, toughness regeneration on the perk is the more important thing

i usually get health on pskyer fwiw, you get more of it and it works better for grims and corruption

[raven gate]

any1 played on the new map yet? i keep seeing the first but not the second

[wet belfry]

New map should release in about 2 hours.

[raven gate]

rlly? then what was the point of the event counter

[near wyvern]

To stall out new content and rise imaginary hype

Monkeys get a neuron activation when they see a bar filled

[karmic delta]

to incentivize players to play

and it worked

[compact cargo]

The counter is fake

Do not believe the deceptions of the great fish

[raven gate]

i just played a game and got the infinite spawn bug. had a bunch of barely 30s so called it quits. I know how that ends...

[shadow onyx]

i dont like unstable because of the peril

[burnt maple]

i really wish there was a way to make Surge work as a meme staff, but even with Warp Nexus it doesn't proc nearly enough

[shadow onyx]

• you dont mention some "tricks" like special >heavy into light crit

very potent

very good against mixed indeed especialy mixed ragers

to me unstable is overkill but idk

maybe it reach some breakpoints

[cosmic sigil]

So it's l1h2 block cancel?

[cosmic sigil]

Toughness Regen on the curios is limited to coherency regen iirc (and I stopped using it on my vet and zealot to stack +5% or gunner/sniper resist tbh)

[shadow onyx]

first 4 ticks before big boom on special also proc uncanny strike blessing

so with this blessing you can basicaly 3 or 4 shots crushers

[obtuse moth]

power adds cleave and stagger even if you dont care about bp

[shadow onyx]

does it really matters to have 20 % power ( but generaly more like 10-15 % ) on top of 75%

[obtuse moth]

ye coherecy only but its still bis. coherency regen is really strong and not situational. gunner resist only works on a few types of enemies

[obtuse moth]

it does for deimos mutant oneshot bp, and it does for soulblaze

probably other things but those are the two i care about

[cosmic sigil]

I don't think I'll run sniper resist on my psyker... I'm not seeing surviving myself a shot 😄

[shadow onyx]

you dont need

especialy with free dodge with force sword

[obtuse moth]

i find sniper more useful than gunner resist personally

[cosmic sigil]

It's funny how the chats can have totally different opinions lmao

[spice veldt]

i run warp unleashed and quietude so I don't mind being at high peril unless 100 ragers descend upon me

[spice veldt]

it's limited to coherency regen, but it does make a noticeable improvement
most weapons give you a base coherency regen at 7.5 tough/s, so +90% improves that to 14.25 tough/s

[obtuse moth]

toughness regen is afaik by far the most popular option since the change so you double dip. it both reduces delay and increases the speed. i follow all the chats fairly regularly

[spice veldt]

it's especially nice during slow ranged sections when rushing in with melee isn't an option

[shadow onyx]

its pretty clutch yeah, especialy with low regen shield/ low shield value like zealot or psyker

[cosmic sigil]

I used to run 90% Regen coherency on my vet. Except my toughness problem were taken care of by confirmed kill and sustained fire. On the zealot I have the 2*ult, and ewew (which is better than what the tooltip said)

[shadow onyx]

ogryn doesnt care

vet too

[cosmic sigil]

So that's why I stopped running toughness regen

[obtuse moth]

its even stronger on ogyrn since it stacks

[shadow onyx]

yeah you dont need shield rgeen on vet/ogryn

better go stam regen

[obtuse moth]

on vet i can see forgoing it since vet is kind of broken strong atm if you play ranged

[shadow onyx]

or any perk related to stam

[cosmic sigil]

I run the +6stam on the vet and some Stam regen

And stam regen on the zealot too

[shadow onyx]

whats the point ? i mean you already are full shield by left clicking with op butcher

[cosmic sigil]

And that improved my survivability a lot

[obtuse moth]

ranged play

[shadow onyx]

yeah

[cosmic sigil]

Maybe it's different for psyker... I just started last week.

[shadow onyx]

yeah

psyker can have good shield regen but its no way near than ogryn or vet

[cosmic sigil]

(on the zealot, the real busted option is using a bolter with gloryhunter... Because you can afford to lose shattering with chastise if you decide so)

[obtuse moth]

this is before they fixed the true insanity, but this is why you would run it on ogryn https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10laahl/60_toughness_regeneration_speed_lynchpin_ogryns/

[shadow onyx]

i litteraly swim into horde with ogryn

[cosmic sigil]

So I should have some tg Regen on my psyker that's what I understand right?

[shadow onyx]

you gain 8% shield per chain + momtum and huge speed cleave

and personal opinion but ogryn is not a ranged guy

[cosmic sigil]

I'm still on the fence between 1hp 2tg or 2hp 1tg

[shadow onyx]

i have only t2 bless

[obtuse moth]

tell that to all the gorgonum mains

[shadow onyx]

i cant

because they are useless and die

[obtuse moth]

anyway regen works in both melee and ranged and it also can potentially free up a blessing slot

[shadow onyx]

vets main worst nightmare too, having gorgogryn staying in front of him

doing nothing

except bullet sponge

[obtuse moth]

ogryns are tall so you can shoot from behind...

theyre just dumb

[shadow onyx]

average ranged ogryn in pub sadly

yeah but they think they are vet

or dont think at all

• ninja all ammos

• stay at the end outside of the exctract point for green circle

• stay in front of anyone

[lethal cave]

Be nice to the Ogryns!
They're using all their braincell (singular) okay!

[cosmic sigil]

Is there a dumpstat on staves?

And what are the recommend perks / blessings?

[uneven drift]

Depending on staff.

[shadow onyx]

crit chance on surge is pretty cool

but i dont think its meta

[spice veldt]

crit chance is mostly for the lmb bolt

[shadow onyx]

y

[spice veldt]

which for some reason has really good crit multipliers

the secondary doesn't get that much benefit

[shadow onyx]

i like charge time reduced up to 50% on all of my staves

especialy purgatus

but i never really bother that much on staves

they are so rare

i gave up to try a god roll on these

[obtuse moth]

rare? brunt's armory...

[spice veldt]

they're rare at least in melk's

and i'd like to get a good roll from the requisition since that means that I don't have to gamble a bit

[lethal cave]

I've stopped caring about Melk these days
Dude wants to sell me the most genuinely trash items I've ever seen

[spice veldt]

on trauma, I treat damage as my dump stat since it provides a marginal improvement (scaling from 300 to 400), and it's good enough at 60% damage for most purposes. At 360 damage with +25% unarmoured for example, you'll reach the breakpoint for one-shotting dreg bruisers (450 hp) w/o warp charges/warp unleashed

though I mostly use trauma as a support weapon and don't really use it as an anti-horde weapon

with an inner tranq warp flurry trauma spam build, you can treat quell speed as a dump stat

[cosmic sigil]

You spam rmb right?

[spice veldt]

ye

[short vessel]

How important is warp resistance?

[spice veldt]

on the obscurus and deimos, not particularly at all

charge rate and blast radius are the most important stats on trauma because of how insanely wide they scale

e.g., trauma's charge rate scales from 2.5 seconds to 1

[cosmic sigil]

i'm gonna check what i've purchased then

[spice veldt]

for blessings, warp flurry and rending shockwave is the common pairing

[burnt maple]

Sniper resist is more useful when the game decides it doesn't want to play the audio cues

(which is all the time)

[spice veldt]

snipers would never ever shoot at you without an audio cue https://streamable.com/zprjje

they would also never have an absurdly short delay between the audio cue and their shot https://streamable.com/x7d88g

they would never

[cosmic sigil]

does the burn stat here is the same as the one on the flamer?

like you need at least 76 to get max ticks

[spice veldt]

ye, same threshold at 76

[cosmic sigil]

ok, sorry i didn;t thinkg to check in the breakdown

[spice veldt]

no worries; it's not like the game tells you

unless you have a bunch of staffs with different burn stats to figure out the breakpoint

which is annoying to do anyways

[shadow onyx]

yes but its the only to get good staves and good blessings sadly

• its not the same bless pool for each staff

super grindy

[shadow onyx]

i would say obscurus need special more than deimos

deimos can simply heavy 2

[spice veldt]

yeah you can chain kills on specials and hope to maintain slaughterer with the obscurus

I never really got a +flak obscurus to chain kills on maulers w/o bloodthirsty

though with how fast you can quell nowadays, you can prob just dodge away when at 100% peril, quell for 250ms, and have another special back up

[lethal cave]

To be fair
I don't think it's ever not been that short?
I just kind of muscle memory do it at this point

(I don't mean this as like a dig at you btw, snipers are v annoying universally lol)

[spice veldt]

i think it's usually a bit longer by a few milliseconds

300ms is like at the edge of my reaction time

especially when I don't encounter snipers enough to have good muscle memory for them

[olive ember]

Bruh actual scrub you could actually see the laser before he fired

[spice veldt]

eat my ass

[lethal cave]

Nah for me my downfall is always dogs/muties
I just somehow never manage the dodge right

Muties grab me like 70% of the time
Dogs are like 90%

[west galleon]

Fuck the elites, i keep zoning out and get caught by squads of shooters xd

[lethal cave]

I've a really bad habit of (especially with ogryn and zealot) being like "Fuck it, if I engage that scab squad in melee they won't shoot the team anymore" while the team's over there being beaten to death by like four muties 💀

[spice veldt]

i just rationalize it as my team deserving it

though I'd be sad if I missed out on 4 mutant kills

[cosmic sigil]

when you hear a mutie, just put your back to the wall wherever you are

[raven gate]

thats the safe route. but muties are 100% dodgeable if u see them coming witha lil practice. dogs on the other hand.... unless u got a corner to hug

[lethal cave]

My best counter to dogs so far has just been to whip out the ranged option and pray to god it stumbles them enough 🙏

[golden tartan]

Best counter to doge, make it target a teammate first

:P

[hard breach]

My counter is force sword special. It locks and kills them as they lunge

If its the swarm well, lightning always stuns a bunch so team can pick them off

[spice veldt]

illisi into a crowd sometimes works against the horde

if there's a bunch of trash around, just aim to the left with the 1st heavy so that you cleave less trash enemies before reaching the doggo to avoid using up all of your cleave

[tired tinsel]

is +10% crit dmg useless on a purg staff?

[lethal folio]

Yes

[tired tinsel]

because crits from the dot don't actually do dmg right?

[safe crystal]

Crit damage in general is bad, and the dots cant crit

Purg gets most of its damage from the DoTs

[tired tinsel]

ok, good to know

don't crits from the dots apply extra stacks?

[cyan notch]

yea

[safe crystal]

Crits during the cast apply extra stacks

[tired tinsel]

so crit % is good but not +crit dmg I guess

[cyan notch]

yea

[tired tinsel]

awesome, thanks I gotta reroll that then

[feral topaz]

Sir, I require your trauma staff expertise

Does Blast Radius matter that much?

Ill tell you why

I got these two

wait

I'm considering just slapping unarmored/warp flurry on the first one and calling it a night

[spice veldt]

it's a hard choice, but yeah I'd pick the top one for the higher charge rate

it depends since I don't really spam my trauma staff and just whip it out as a support, and warp flurry mitigates the lower charge rate if you use it as something like an anti-horde weapon and continuously proc battle med

[feral topaz]

Right well

I've tried comparing the explosion circle and

I just don't really see a noticeable difference

[spice veldt]

the visual circle doesn't scale with your blast radius stat for some reason

[feral topaz]

....wha

[spice veldt]

yeah

it's the same size regardless of your blast radius stat

fatsharked

[feral topaz]

.....

[cosmic sigil]

Wut

[feral topaz]

oh ffs

[spice veldt]

just the visual circle though

the actual size of the explosion and all that does scale with blast radius

[cosmic sigil]

Wuuut

[feral topaz]

Sigh

[spice veldt]

i hope you like spawning enemies repeatedly

[feral topaz]

I'm gonna have to find a way to fieldtest this shiz

yeah exactly

[spice veldt]

at the very least, the blast radius stat mostly affects the radius of the outer area

so you'll lose out on a little bit on the epicentre and have less space-making ability against groaners/poxwalkers

and less of an area on staggering ranged enemies if spamming the trauma into them

[feral topaz]

Yeah

I've just been fishing for certain t4 blessings and for w/e reason melk does not want to sell me them, nor does it seem the hourly vendor want to sell me bases that could be legit upgrades

So every once in a while I try a bunch and then this happens and I go "maybe Ill just keep it and use it as my main"

Still want t4 warp flurry for Trauma and t4 slaughterer for Illisi but

no dice

[spice veldt]

yeah, my melk's not doing too great either

that base isn't too bad since I treat damage as a dumpstat and I always run warp unleashed to make up some of the difference, but those sure are two banger blessings (transfer peril is self-explanatory, but sustained fire also does not even work on trauma's secondary)

[feral topaz]

I dont remember the last time I saw him sell a Trauma staff

[spice veldt]

rough life for only 4 force staffs, each of which belong to different weapon families

[feral topaz]

Well, on the bright side

[spice veldt]

I got t4 warp flurry for trauma pretty late

[feral topaz]

I think I'm done with surge/purgatus (not that I use purgatus a lot at all)

My voidstrike is just fine its moreso luxury upgrades at this point

I just wanna finalize Trauma and Illisi

But everytime I dump a good 10k plasteel I don't really get the stuff

Like, I got Surge on Trauma

But not T4 warp flurry

[lethal folio]

The trauma visual is based on a 100% blast radius staff.

so you would never get an accurate explosion based on the circle.

[late yew]

Gotta say, i see massive reduction in amount of psykers, which pleases me

[lethal cave]

Just for you i'm deleting my veteran and zealot again

[strong thicket]

My melk keeps giving me good guns and no staffs

[raven gate]

whats the best perks/blessings on the voidstrike? its the only staff i cant get to work
I got these (im saving the surge/warp nexus staff in case it gets buffed)

[royal granite]

siblings, i've been away from the game for a hot minute, does psyker feel any better to play or are we still bickering about the same 3 viable weapon options?

[spice veldt]

the important changes from january are that quelling no longer ramps up the longer you quell and is consistently faster overall; warp unleashed got buffed into being global damage and giving higher damage; brainburst getting a minor damage buff; and getting two new force swords that are way better than the obscurus

there are some other minor improvements

we still only have 4 force staffs though

[royal granite]

guess i'll wait a few more months

[spice veldt]

they'll give us a peril glock one day

[idle aurora]

Is there any reason to use dueling swords? Or they are a complete meme weapon for now?

[tropic vigil]

I have never used them and only ever seen one other psyker use them when playing

[olive ember]

Not really

deimos exists

[late yew]

???

are you guys stupiud

i am psyker main

I just don't like playing with 3 psykers in team

[olive ember]

lmao

[raven gate]

psyker supremacy must be absolute. We will not tolerate dissenters, serious or otherwise. Purge the outcast!

[vestal raven]

a force assault rifle would be a cool addition

[olive ember]

hes serious he just has bad takes

[raven gate]

i think we should be granted a pistol slot. Then psykers get small staffs for the pistol slot 😄

[spice veldt]

wands

[raven gate]

its small staff or no deal

also acceptable: smol staff, swole staff

[spice veldt]

one giant staff that takes up primary and secondary slots

laser beam

[vestal raven]

a big two handed staff

[spice veldt]

oh yeah our psykers just hold the staffs one-handed huh

[raven gate]

every time u use it, a breach into warp happens and a chaos spawn pops in

[late yew]

or psykers should get possesed

spawning therefore dh

[raven gate]

thats what happens when u reach 100% peril

[acoustic holly]

And my curse with psykers is back... Why ppl on heresy are so bad

[raven gate]

why do u think they are playing heresy 😛

[acoustic holly]

I cant level my psyker to 30 cuz of that

[raven gate]

yeah.. that was always a struggle leveling up. at least its better than it was at launch. tier 5 was basically impossible without a premade team

[acoustic holly]

im 26 now, but with losing every game now it makes me not want to lvl up other classes, been playing vet for +128 lvls, wanted to lvl up other ones and .... I dont want to

[late yew]

no wonder lmao

vet is braindead

[raven gate]

u on NA? I'll hop on ur team if so

[late yew]

every other class seesms hard after vet

[acoustic holly]

No

its not me

That what always says

But i wouldnt be bitchin about it if i was fcking up every run

I do know what to play, andi know to pull out melee on close combat which a lot ppl dont do for some reason :d

Im done playin for now

[raven gate]

RIP

[acoustic holly]

I dont consier myself godlike to solo-duo dams, definitely not, but i do have like 600 hours in Vermin + Darktide now i would say

Welp, cursed Psyker

Just a lil rant. Wanna just get passed this leveling hell and go 30 to play damnation

[late yew]

or just, you know

play damnation

[acoustic holly]

Idk if i want to, witohut end weapons and last feat

[raven gate]

u can play tier 5 damnation with level 26. just dont go into hi intensity or shcok gauntlets

[acoustic holly]

Idk how ppl look at lower lvls at damnas

[raven gate]

with extreme disdain. but fuck em ^_^

[spice veldt]

the opinion is probably pretty mixed from person to person

I like getting all the kills so I prefer low levels in my matches

[safe crystal]

For me and people i play with, its either they pull their weight and do well, which i like

Or they dont, and i get to kill more things, which i like

[raven gate]

so long as u do ur job, no1 will call u out on it. its when they see u go down 5 times in a game thats the problem

[tropic vigil]

I don't mind seeing lower levels cuz usually they still play smartly and as a team

I've seen several 20 somethings that do just fine for the most part

[acoustic holly]

Maybe i will stop the heresy thing and hope for the best next time i boot up the game

[safe crystal]

Lower level people also tend to stick together more often than run off on their own

Which is always a plus

[raven gate]

lol thats true

[tropic vigil]

Yea as long as you buddy up you should be fine really

[acoustic holly]

When i reach 30 i will be having a bit of questions how to setup blessings for 4 wands and stuff

[raven gate]

so many level 100-200's are better players. but they run off and die on their own XD

[acoustic holly]

I always hug ogryn or vet

If i have them

[tropic vigil]

Love me ogryn body guards

[raven gate]

love me ogryn hugs

[acoustic holly]

What feat combos u guys usin, maybe the build i ahve is fckd up

[raven gate]

imo the best build to keep ur team alive is surge staff. since u not only stop enemies from flanking ur team easily. ur also highlighting enemies in the area very easily

[safe crystal]

312133, using voidstrike and illisi. You can change around 3rd row for communion if you like that, and 4th row for the toughness reduction depending on which you like

[royal granite]

one of the things that really gets on my nerves about psyker is like

cool guns are so central to 40k

and you do actually get access to a bunch of cool guns as a psyker

but if you use any of your cool guns you might as well just be playing a different class

the game badly needs a pistol slot, or even a secondary firearm slot

[tropic vigil]

Surge staff definitely the best staff if you want to guarantee success for your team.

[raven gate]

pistol slot or we riot

[royal granite]

hell i'd even accept putting the staff in the melee slot

[tropic vigil]

The others are viable ofc and more fun but surge trivializes stuff

[acoustic holly]

I think im using that rn, but the order seems different on this page or im trippin. Ofc dont have the last one yet

[royal granite]

i fully acknowledge the fact that surge is the superior staff, but i never liked it

[raven gate]

well if his teammates are constantly dying. then he need trivialization lol

[royal granite]

with surge you have to rely more on your teammates, and if you routinely pug, you do not want that

[raven gate]

oh god, i didnt know ppl used the first slot on the first perk

[tropic vigil]

I used to run harvest but I found warp absorption gives a lot more value.

[spice veldt]

the illisi was introduced to the game now, so you can carry with melee alone

[tropic vigil]

Haven't gone back since

[acoustic holly]

Ye idk about psyker builds

[safe crystal]

This would be 122233. Its not terrible, but quietitude on first tends to be better. EH used to be around quietitude before they buffed quelling

[raven gate]

surge + illisi + brain burst for range. no rteammates required

[tropic vigil]

And warp unleashes is nice too since it just gives you 10% for free at a min

[rigid sky]

Anyone else in the "unlocked all the new penance hats in the same moment" club?

[acoustic holly]

So i should swap 1st row to quetitude

Got it

[raven gate]

i made a lot of typos lol

[safe crystal]

Entirely up to you. If you like EH, use it

[spice veldt]

rush ranged enemies down with illisi

you'll often kill them faster than you lose toughness

[royal granite]

what is illisi

[safe crystal]

EH isnt terrible, its outclassed by quietitude though

[spice veldt]

it's one of the new force swords

[royal granite]

ah

[spice veldt]

it has a power sword special

[raven gate]

the force sword for crowd control

[acoustic holly]

I feel like its hard to regain toughness in high intense battle

[rigid sky]

Essence harvest is more for purgatus builds imo

[tropic vigil]

Wrack and Ruin isn't bad at all either if you have barrage and bb focus. You can melt with specialist stacks

[spice veldt]

imagine the power sword but significantly more mobile and slightly faster attacks

[rigid sky]

With at least two of the charge generation feats

[raven gate]

our illisi is guna get nerfed into the ground isnt it? 😭

[kind jay]

and infinite dodgeronis!

[royal granite]

charges still feel weak

[acoustic holly]

Im afraid of Wrack and RUin that it will accidentally go to daemon host

[rigid sky]

If you're getting 4% chance on all team kills and 10% chance on all enemies dying in fire

[spice veldt]

charges now give 4% damage each instead of 3% so it's slightly better

[rigid sky]

You generate a lot of warp charges by accident that way

[royal granite]

single digit percentage bonuses are like

[rigid sky]

So good synergy with essence harvest

[royal granite]

idk, don't feel great

[rigid sky]

But yeah, would only bother with that with Purgatus

[acoustic holly]

I think that will be my build for the flamethrwoers

[spice veldt]

it does jump from 12% to 16% with 4 warp charges

and there's warp unleashed, so you'll have +26% damage by default at 0 peril and 4 warp charges

[rigid sky]

Don't fall for the wildfire/wrack and ruin trap though

[royal granite]

the only time warp charges feel like something cool rather than busywork is when you get to spend them on something dope

[rigid sky]

You want the 6 warp charges for ascendant blaze

And I can't remember what you take instead of wrack and ruin, but I think it's the top one

[spice veldt]

warp unleashed does boost soulblaze damage

[rigid sky]

Wait no

Take the peril reduction one imo

It improves your uptime with purgatus a lot

Guess you can choose either

[raven gate]

this chat lit up pretty quickly huh

[royal granite]

if i were in charge of psyker, i'd remove the damage bonus and the tick down timer from warp charges and instead make them ammo for some kind of alt fire to brain burst

[acoustic holly]

[rigid sky]

But I do better with peril reduction for purgatus specifically

[royal granite]

maybe give staves a kind of ultimate that you can fire with max charges, bound to the otherwise useless melee button

capstone feats that modify the brain burst alt fire

wishful thinking though

[acoustic holly]

Lol, imagine ogryn sized fireball from voidstaff

[raven gate]

they prob dont wana do that. So when they introduce a psyker derivative. They won't be tied down to using warp charges again

[acoustic holly]

Ye, i wish brain burst alt fire was smth else

Like a whirlwind that pulls enemies to the middle

or smth

[tropic vigil]

A giant space wizard fireball

[raven gate]

spez woozard

[royal granite]

right now all our space wizard shit feels like a weaker version of a gun, except for a few unique niches like brain burst sniping from cover, and surge staff for crowd control

[raven gate]

i wish they'd just port over the staffs in vermintide completely shamelessly lol

[rigid sky]

No reload though, is nice

[royal granite]

it just feels uninspired

[raven gate]

conflagaration staff? nonono its warp conflagaration

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike feels pretty sick and unique but I guess it could just as easily be a gun

[royal granite]

voidstrike is kinda unique

it's like a different plasma gun

[rigid sky]

Even if in function it's just a light projectile variant of plasma

Yeah lol

[royal granite]

less armour pen, more crowd control

[rigid sky]

More spammy

[royal granite]

and i gotta say, even before they buffed the plasma, you definitely feel cooler shooting the plasma than the voidstrike

[rigid sky]

Well yeah

Voidstrike is shit against most tough targets

Plasma kills everything short of a monster

[royal granite]

i mean even in a vacuum, plasma just has cooler effects

it's got the valve, the hydrogen bottle, it visibly vents steam, the radiator starts glowing

it's fucking dope

[rigid sky]

Plus veteran counterfire targeting assist and the wallbang

[royal granite]

it's like one of those adhd fidget toys but it's huge and shoots boiling death

[rigid sky]

You feel powerful as fuck under volley fire with a plasma

Voidstrike is just another part of the eternal struggle of surviving in a sea of simpletons with your incomparable mind intact

[royal granite]

the staves just don't have that sort of thing going on

even the humble lasgun has more happening on the model

the sight has a gothic arch, there's an ammo indicator LED, reloading it is a wonderfully kinetic action where you see your hands operating the mag release

[rigid sky]

Trauma feels great

[royal granite]

there's a rare alternate animation that sometimes plays where you fumble the reload

[rigid sky]

But I suck at it

So it feels bad

[royal granite]

psyker doesn't get any of that

brain burst is pretty cool when it works, it's got great audio

[gleaming hornet]

What a nice staff, but why's it gotta be Purgatus of all things

[raven gate]

purgatus is great. and u rolled the best 2 blessings for it

whats therer to complain about?

[gleaming hornet]

Not a huge fan of the puff staff

I'll still give it a go and see whether my opinion changes, but the other times I tried it, it just didn't click for me. Lack of range hurt, and it's not as satisfying as the crunch of a fully charged voidstrike ripping through a line of dudes

[spice veldt]

yeah if you're looking for weapon feel it might not be there

[raven gate]

why u hating on puff staffy? the staff formerly known and prince? p. staffy, the prince of flames

[spice veldt]

but it does have infinite cleave compared to voidstrike's 6 max

[ember sentinel]

Deals with flak well too

[raven gate]

its great for hi intensity missions

[ember sentinel]

My favorite thing about it is the stagger though

[raven gate]

also for clutching. jjust swing wildly for a lil bit and all the hordes are dead

[ember sentinel]

Lets me take a lot of pressure off myself and the team when i can just stagger everything

[gleaming hornet]

I mean, with those stats, I'll toss Milky the cash and get it. What should I replace specialist damage with?

I assume the usual Maniac?

[raven gate]

id replace specialist for unarmored or other

[ember sentinel]

I do unarmored iirc

Makes it so you can deal with any group of enemies pretty much

[gleaming hornet]

Righto

[olive ember]

replace specialist with maniac or crit chance

don't bother with unarmoured

[shy prairie]

personally don't believe in quelling

[raven gate]

u kept sprint efficiency:? what was the other one?]

[shy prairie]

see, 4 is bigger than less than 4

I choose based off of what makes the number bigger not what makes the weapon better

[raven gate]

thats definitely an ogryn sentence right there

[shy prairie]

psyker ogryn when fatshark?

telekinetic grenade box

[rigid sky]

Crit chance on flamer type weapons is really good

+2 burn when it critical a tick

And burn stacks scale quadratically

[ember sentinel]

Oh yeah crit chance is good too esp if your running nexus

[silent coral]

if your not running a soul blaze build then blazing spirit is pretty useless right?

[ember sentinel]

Its passable on trauma iirc but not great

Also does psyker F have a push limit or something sometimes ill push stuff right in front of me and only like 2 guys get pushed

Only noticed it recently

[calm island]

man I wish my purgatus had those rolls and blessing. Although less damage and more everything else would be even better

[late yew]

Barrage good blessing? Lmao

[prisma python]

How many tiers does the blessing "deflector" have?

[silent coral]

4?

im not sure

[prisma python]

I have a tier II deflector. Should I wait before I put it on my sword then?

[normal sequoia]

there are 4 tiers, yeah

I mean, if you are gonna put it on, you can always upgrade it later down the road with a higher tier, no?

[raven gate]

on the purgatus yes. Since ur constantly killing enemies, ur constantly suppressing enemies

[prisma python]

Did not know you can upgrade existing blessing. Good to know

[normal sequoia]

yep, but only the one you decide to change. The other one stays locked, so keep that in mind

other than that, you can go nuts with the tiers

[west galleon]

I think it depends on your % of peril at that moment

[feral topaz]

@spice veldt Got lucky with my last bit of plasteel

It's gonna be a few blue moons if ever I find an upgrade to this

[harsh urchin]

i'm pretty sure there's a long cooldown on the suppression

that blessing is pretty ass from my exp

and flame staff has enough stagger baseline even without it

[lethal folio]

Terrifying barrage requires a direct damage kill, and centres the explosion on you.

[raven gate]

well that sounds interesting. any1 got a table of values for the barrage to confirm? I hvnt used flame staff in a while but as I recall, the suppression icon kept getting refreshed in my status bar over and over so I dont believe it has a cooldown.
I also recall crushers standing still so long as I was killing the horde.

That said, it's pretty hard to keep track of whats going on in the middle of a fight and I could be wrong. So a table of values would be nice since fatshark doesnt know how to share lol

[olive ember]

Terrifying barrage was a placeholder when flurry didn't work

but since it works now the BiS for purge is nexus + flurry

[leaden orchid]

quick question:
Does Learning a blessing from one staff unlock it for all variants?

[raven gate]

yes

same with force swords

[leaden orchid]

excellent

ty

[raven gate]

no wait im wrong lol

staffs dont share blessings i forgot

force swords do though

i hope he got the message before leaving xD

[leaden orchid]

lol

no, too late x)

oof fatshark please fix this make the blessings work across staff variants

at least the blessings they have in common amongst themselves?

[raven gate]

that would be too logical for fatshark to fathom

[leaden orchid]

lol

I like to believe it's a matter of time

[harsh urchin]

it is

fatshark is good, they're just incompetent, mismanaged and slow

so they'll fix the crafting and blessings in 2025 roughly

[raven gate]

yes they'll definitely have it done by 2027

[olive ember]

No

[raven gate]

where were u 10 minutes ago

[olive ember]

I was watching ffxiv stream

and eating my vanilla ice cream lunch

[raven gate]

how dare u shirk ur responsibility of stopping me from doing something stupid that i just retroactively assigned to u i decided

[leaden orchid]

made me learn warp flurry 4 from and electric staff

surge staff?

[normal sequoia]

siblings, this worth keeping? got some dogshit perks and one good blessing

[raven gate]

yes

switch barrge to nexus. and carapace to crit chance

[normal sequoia]

alright, will do

guessing the ranged crit damage works well with the increased crit chance of double burn stack?

[raven gate]

i personaly prefer barrage + flurry. but it seems the meta is to stack crits on purge staff

[olive ember]

https://streamable.com/k67kky

[near gale]

I mean ranged crit damage is horrible, but, carapace armor damage is also horrible on the purgatus

[olive ember]

too busy performing high skill manuevers

[ember sentinel]

Oh ok ty

[fair steeple]

anyone wanna help 2 guys do the 90% brain burst on Monster penance?

we need someone to keep the dogs and stuff away from ogryn and DH

[raven gate]

why would u do it with a demon host? do it with a beast of nurgle. then 3 teammates can deal with everything while the psyker just dodges

much safer

[fair steeple]

dh spawns more often

[raven gate]

i suppose

the ogryn might die of corruption before u can bran burst it tho

[near gale]

It takes a long time to die from corruption with the shield, I learned that when I shielded one for a friend

Even with 20 poxwalkers around you lol

[lunar hollow]

i saw u standing still and i got real confused

[olive ember]

Next time I gotta spam dodges while using the revolver special

[lunar hollow]

that was uh

man idk how u still didnt do the worst for elite/special kills

[olive ember]

It’s called skill

[lunar hollow]

the skill of crying every time shooters spawned for 3 games straight

[olive ember]

[frozen osprey]

@lunar hollow smosh

[lunar hollow]

hsoms

[vocal socket]

does anyone else get a glitch or something that causes your staff to stop/restart charging?

I just did a whole run where my staff was basically useless because of it

[silent coral]

is cerebral lacerations worth it after the buff?

[harsh urchin]

i would try for another

[frozen osprey]

@lunar hollow am i annoying yet

[lunar hollow]

no

[frozen osprey]

Damn

I need to try harder

[olive ember]

The secret is to expose him as a net lover and how much he adores trappers

[olive ember]

Up to you, tho I believe most players run psykinetics aura for team support and also just more ability spam or communion for more warp charge generation (for AB)

[frozen osprey]

Everyone knows that already

[lunar hollow]

communion is based

[olive ember]

ngl I thought you said communism is based

[lunar hollow]

wow

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/comunism-gif-22603522

[frozen osprey]

I was gonna say something but automod banned it 😭

[kindred sand]

Anyone uses blaze sword with block efficiency? Is it worth it?

[olive ember]

If you plan on blocking bosses it’s pretty pog

Otherwise eh

Also helps with revive clutching and blocking shots if you use deflector

[steel flame]

How is the new map? The intro was cool but didn't have time to play any past that before I had to leave for work

[olive ember]

It’s cool

Idk how much I liked the end tbh

[lunar hollow]

the end event is

something

[raven gate]

pretty cool aint it

although it seems kinda dumb that at the end you only get one canister lol

[feral topaz]

We need a guy to help a dude do its just a flesh wound, any volunteers?

[silent coral]

I have an unstable power + slaughter isilis now should i go for flak + manic or flak + unarmored?

[echo turtle]

Maniac is #1
flakk is a good second choice

If you are just shy of one hitting a mutie, +specialist can tip you over

If you have flak already, maniac 100%

[fresh steeple]

Hope all y'all are enjoying the new maps. I might be back in a few weeks after I'm done overdosing on Diablo 4

[vocal socket]

https://youtu.be/bQ6363hMCcY
anyone else have this problem with charging psyker staves?

[silent coral]

i like the new map the hold out section i fun i just with it had a new music track that came with it just like the other map we got. I hope the community speculation is correct that its leading up to new las weapons

[ornate hamlet]

I assume it doesn't work similarly with block or aiming guns?

As in, are they bugged too?

[vocal socket]

yeah blocking and aiming work fine

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah I dunno then

I guess you could try some outside stuff like replugging your mouse, restarting the game and maybe restarting the computer

Maybe it's just one of those things where this single open instance of the game hates you

[vocal socket]

this has been happening for a week or so

[ornate hamlet]

RIP

I was playing purgatus a bit, but didn't notice anything of the sort

[vocal socket]

I'm gonna disable mods and see if it still happens

[chilly maple]

This looks exactly like a dying switch on a mouse button. Have you gone to a input checker and tried repeating the input there? Go on https://www.onlinemictest.com/mouse-test/ and try the same thing to be safe.

[vocal socket]

I already did that. Also it doesn't happen on blocking or aiming. Does happen on charging plasma gun, though

[chilly maple]

Ah that's a relief. Mouse hardware has gotten so cheap these days. Do you hold down RMB the whole time or do you let off when you press LMB? Maybe try the other way and see if it works. Otherwise it looks like a bug then, they touched Psyker charging this patch in regards to sprint sliding canceling stave charge erroneously. So this might be something that needs to be brought up.

[vocal socket]

it's been happening to me since the content drop, but yeah. Also confirmed it happens without mods.

[lilac tapir]

the game is trying to tell you something

[chilly maple]

Guess it's Gun Psyker for you brother. Dust off the autopistol.

[lilac tapir]

my thoughts exactly haha

[fresh steeple]

been tryin to find the music somewhere discrete, like a YT link

looks like it's unavailable atm

[vocal socket]

dang, I just used a different mouse tester and it shows it flickering

literally an 11 year old logitech mouse lol

[late yew]

Suppression is useless against melee enemies though

[chilly maple]

You got soldering supplies? These days it would probably be better to just install a new switch if you got the skill and time.

[vocal socket]

yeah I'm an electrical engineer

never dove into the world of microswitches though so I'm trying to pick some out lol

[chilly maple]

Oooh shit, I'm a Net Engineer, I went to college with a bunch of you guys.

[vocal socket]

do you have any switch recommendations?

[chilly maple]

Lemme remind myself of the ones I grabbed

[sharp kraken]

okay, I have to say. I've been sleeping on the trauma staff all this time

It's actually really friggin good

[chilly maple]

Omron D2FC-F-7N (20M)

[vocal socket]

nice that's what my mouse has, originally

[chilly maple]

They're good little troopers, should last you another ten years if you let em lol.

[vocal socket]

heck yeah, thanks

[chilly maple]

I think it's pretty much reached a state where it's basically voidstrike but from below lol. Unless Surge got changes I think that's the only one that's really lacking. The other 3 are "Press RMB to make the other rejects compliment you"

[sharp kraken]

I actually prefer it voer voidstrike

[olive ember]

Voidstrike is the weakest of the 4 staves so

[final mesa]

are repair missions just not happening anymore?

[olive ember]

They are spamming the new maps so it’s prob just a lot less likely

Especially since there’s like literally only one repair mission right

[lunar hollow]

well they took the regen mission out of the mission pool, yeah?

cuz they fucked something up and you couldn't beat it

[olive ember]

Did they?

How?

[lethal folio]

random solid walls blocking doors

[olive ember]

…

Wow

Just…. Wow

[lunar hollow]

not just any door

like the one door u cant block or the game is unwinnable

[olive ember]

Extraction door?

[lunar hollow]

no i think it was one of the ones that lead to the mid event

[olive ember]

How’d they manage to do that lmao

Just “yeah for this patch let’s place a random wall in this already finished map”

[lunar hollow]

swedish people

[lethal folio]

Some asset replacement probably. You can notice when they switch up some props in the old maps, likely one got swapped and now another copy in the map stretches to the wrong spot.

[crystal jolt]

spaghetti code

loadouts are kinda borked with this patch as well iirc

[obtuse moth]

been having issues with loadouts since before this patch

[crystal jolt]

really? I only noticed it after the patch from monday. If i switch anything on the pre mission load-in, it doesn't carry into in game.

[gusty stirrup]

siblings - a question, which perk to replace and with what?

[lusty slate]

Idk what to build for my psyker I only have 100 hours and haven’t seen any guides. I like using the flame staff and lllisi force sword

[gusty stirrup]

only way to do it now until its fixed is to select the load out in the screen, then alt f4 in game and reload, you will have the selected laod out

[chilly maple]

Consider Mark IV Deimos instead. Illisi are more horde oriented and Purgatus is completely horde oriented. Deimos will give you nice single target, while also still one-shotting trash enemies.

[lusty slate]

what about for feats?

[chilly maple]

On force swords you typically want deflector, I'm lacking in knowledge on what to take for damage in the second slot.

(deflector + the character perk that makes blocking use your peril instead of stamina. This allows you to curb some of Psyker's low range by safely advancing on shooter type enemies)

[olive ember]

Loadouts have always been jank but since the content update you can’t change loadout once you are in mission lobby

[gusty stirrup]

it wont change it in the lobby, but once in game, if you alt f4, then re connect, you will have that loadout

[olive ember]

Lmao wow

Well makes sense yeah cuz if you change in lobby it’ll auto equip once you exit mission

Still dumb af

[gusty stirrup]

yup 🙂

[royal birch]

This build works for me great.
Curios are 17% toughness + max hp and toughness extras + one random (prefering regenerations for stamina/toughness but since it's a long run to get, 3rd doesn't matter as much as other 2 perks)

[obtuse moth]

on force swords you want slaughterer, deflector is optional or you can go for extra damage

[royal birch]

For grim missions, change curios to max hp but same idea otherwise

[obtuse moth]

or just run max hp all the time, if you run 3x toughness as a perk its like the same as a toughness blessing curio

works better than the other way around numerically

[royal birch]

Well yes and no, works better with blessing on toughness when there's shooters scattered around the area as dodging is harder. Otherwise, yea, not much difference

[obtuse moth]

no i mean numerically when you get +toughness or +health on the blessing slot, the #'s are higher on the blessing

but same on the perk

so since toughness is ~15-17% and health is ~19-21%, but the perks are always +5%, you'll minmax a lot more getting toughness on the perk and health on the blessing

[royal birch]

Yea, I got you on that but as said, toughness works better on some occasions and it's easier to regain

And on perks, you want to get both of them so shouldn't really build a curio from green but from blue rarity which already has at least tier 3 perk on either hp or toughness

[obtuse moth]

toughness regeneration is always my #1 perk priority since it double dips and both reduces your toughness regeneration delay AND boosts the speed it regenerates

after that i normally prioritise ordo dockets tbh unless im running hishock5

regenerating toughness gives you a lot more effective toughness, and prevents bleedthrough damage from affecting hp

[royal birch]

True. Still as I mentioned, it works for me great that way already. I don't feel like really adding more regeneration since I get it from quelling peril as well. Having higher max for toughness seems to work better from my experience but of course I could be wrong there

I have one tier 3 regeneration for toughness I mean

[obtuse moth]

depends on playstyle, more toughness gives you a bigger buffer before you take health damage from ranged fire, but having more doesnt affect bleedthrough damage much since you'll always take melee bleedthrough if you take melee toughness damage below 100% toughness

[hidden crystal]

I've always found the Ordo Dockets perk underwhelming.

[obtuse moth]

30% more is over 10k more dockets per game for me

one extra weapon roll per game is huge

[drifting violet]

Quick question: for gun psyker, what kind guns (besides the auto pistol) would be viable for this sub class?

[hidden crystal]

I've almost never found Brunt's Armoury useful - particularly as it doesn't do curios.

[hidden crystal]

I tend to run a MG XII Lasgun for gunpsyker, myself.

Although I have just today acquired this:

[drifting violet]

Interesting choice

[hidden crystal]

And I'm too scared to take it anywhere near Hadron.

I mean, it's not perfect, but the low Ammo modifier is... fine, to be honest.

[drifting violet]

Appreciate the quick answer, gonna experiment more with this

[hidden crystal]

As far as the MG XII, it's got a lot of punch, and is probably the most viable option for a long ranged psyker.

I mean, yes, brain burst is a solid long range option, but it's slow to charge up, and actually picking out the target you want is sometimes tricky.

[drifting violet]

From my understanding: the gun psyker is pretty good with the AP due to the blessing pinning fire and their lvl 30 feat

At least according to that one video about the gun psyker made by that one guy I don’t remember the name of

[hidden crystal]

Well, using the MG XII is definitely a different playstyle to that.

[drifting violet]

Interesting

[hidden crystal]

I've ended up with a build that's got anti-ranged as a focus.

And yes, you can quite reasonably argue that Sharpshooters are more specialised for that, but there's a couple of reasons I run it that way.

Firstly, I can't be fragged to go through the nightmare of grinding up a sharpshooter with good gear, particularly now that good curios are so much harder to come by.

[drifting violet]

Fair, not sure if they fixed that 380 br bug for weapons

[lethal cave]

Brunt is good if you have tons of spare dockets, time, and a desire for a specific weapon of X base stats

Really racks up costs though

[drifting violet]

Good to also farm for blessings for a specific weapon if you just started

[hidden crystal]

When it comes to Brunt, about the only thing I've had any real success with it for is getting an okay example of a new weapon type.

I've lost any patience with it for trying to get good weapons, because you might get one good one out of twenty or more, which Hadron then proceeds to ruin.

[hidden crystal]

I have bought a couple of 380s recently, as it happens, but I'm not that picky about always getting a 380.

I'm usually more concerned about which stat is the dump stat.

[frozen osprey]

Brunt is terrible cuz u could be spending those dockets on shiny cosmetics

[drifting violet]

Are 380s appearing again? I remember there was a time that only 379 showed up

Not much of a difference stats wise, but it was noticeable

[hidden crystal]

I've bought a couple in the last day or so, so it may have been fixed in the latest patches.

[drifting violet]

Neat 😎👍

[hidden crystal]

As is though, my Psyker's current MG XII is a 376, and I'm not expecting it to get replaced in a hurry:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1107785124252225586/image.png

(Although if I get my hands on T4 Ghost, yes, that will obviously be applied).

[drifting violet]

I wish you luck on that RNGfest 🫡

[hidden crystal]

The thing is that I'm very content with ammo as the dump stat on a weapon like this.

It's usually quite ammo efficient anyway, and being able to precisely place high damage shots - even while moving - is more important than getting a scarce few more shots per power cell.

In this case, it gets 32 shots per cell - one with 80% ammo only gets 36 instead, and while that would also mean I was picking up ammo packs slightly less frequently, it would be at the cost of something else.

Good fun for taking out Reapers.

As long as there's not someone else there doing something that staggers them.

(It's not got the punch to stagger a reaper much, so the sights just keep coming back to the reaper's head... and every time I get a head shot, I'm immune to ranged damage and suppression for another 0.8s)

So yeah, all the important "I'm hitting and doing loads of damage" stats are at least 78%, the ammo stat's still reasonable, it's got a good Blessing combo, and the extra reload speed even makes up a little for the average magazine capacity.

If they suddenly raise the modifier cap, that's another matter, but I'm expecting to keep using this one for a while.

And I've had some decent games with it; I certainly didn't regret bringing it on the game I got paired up with a Surge Psyker, a Purgatus Psyker and a Rumbler Ogryn.

[steel flame]

Laspistol was really good there for awhile though the burning nerf hurt inferno alot. Still decent enough that I run it every now and then. Never get tired of that gigachad force push it has.

Nothin beat blowing away a poxburster on the other side of the room

[hidden crystal]

(I'm somewhat disappointed I can't share it with a Sharpshooter, I'd like to see how it played in their hands).

[drifting violet]

They have a lot of dmg bonus for weakspot hits

They would utilize the las gun well

[steel flame]

Laspistol handles itself really well in high intensity but it's aim intensive nature holds it back in the chaos of high shock troop

[frozen osprey]

meat moon

[steel flame]

....?

[drifting violet]

meat moon, no further explanation needed

[frozen osprey]

m

@hidden crystal spit it out, man

[hidden crystal]

I'm more thinking about how it would work with volley fire; as is, as a psykinetic can stack a semi-permanent +24% damage from Warp Charges, the sharpshooter's headshot bonus (+15%, I think) probably doesn't make them any better at picking off elites/specials until they use the ult.

[drifting violet]

With most guns, you can make VF last awhile depending on which lvl 30 feat you pick

I don’t have a pc on me rn since I’m at work

But the one that targets every shooter

And with the extra 25% dmg to weakspot hits

[hidden crystal]

In any case, this thing will drop any regular cannon fodder with a head shot (assuming the hit actually registers... argh), so it's only tougher targets where bonus head shot damage is going to be a boon.

[drifting violet]

😎👍

[cosmic sigil]

what changed with the curios?

[hidden crystal]

When they did the store/crafting update, it seems it's now hardcoded that the rotation only ever includes two curios.

Also, it became really rare to see them come with a T4 perk straight from the shop. (Although I have seen a few with T4 perks in the last couple of days, so they may have changed the store algorithm slightly).

[calm sapphire]

tbh why can't we just craft our own curios

seriously

or even better, shared inventory

bruh

[hidden crystal]

It doesn't help that some curios are bugged.

I'd be pretty happy with this one - if it actually provided +3 Stamina on missions, not +2. (Reading other people's forum reports, it seems to happen specifically when the Blessing Rating is 75).
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1108828861346627655/image.png

I've been trying to replace it for ages, but nearly every time I manage to get a replacement +3 Stamina Curio, Hadron proceeds to put something like +%XP or Resist (Pox Hounds) on it.

[obtuse moth]

then you havent crafted much, brunt is the primary crafting gateway and best source of good base weapons

[drifting violet]

🫤

[hidden crystal]

The amount I have to spend to get one okay weapon out of Brunt can buy many good weapons if I'm prepared to watch the Armoury Exchange browser add-on.

[obtuse moth]

sucks that having the curio perk doesnt doesnt even increase your absolute chances of getting a curio by 5%, it just boosts the base 5% by a percentage afaik

crafting is primarily still brunt if youre going for something specific, i both buy from the armory and brunt. but its all the more reason to run ordo dockets :D

[hidden crystal]

Yes, I also consider the "bonus curio chance" a garbage perk.

[obtuse moth]

gets a lot easier if you use the buy until rating mod, i set it to autodiscard things below 340

but i should probably set it far higher

[obtuse moth]

is your docket income stream low? you should be able to have plenty of dockets left over to use on brunt even if you grab every single 370 weapon

[cosmic sigil]

speaking of curios i checked, i use 2 +3 stam on my vet and I have another waiting for a perk reroll, only one of them is 75

glad i stocked them during the cb and after

Marco

can you explain this to me?

i currently use 1hp 2tg on my psyker but i don't know if it's the optimal loadout

[hidden crystal]

I'm not especially short on cash, but watching half a million Ordos turn into two decent weapons that Hadron then ruins is demoralising.

[cosmic sigil]

i have deflector on my swords and the feat with dr

[hidden crystal]

As far as I know, as a psyker you would normally have 3 stamina with a Force Sword (1 base +2 from the Sword).

Let's say then that with those 3 Stamina you block an attack, and it costs you 20% peril with Kinetic Deflection.

If you also have a +3 Stamina curio, for 6 total stamina, and you block the same attack, you will only gain 10% Peril.

[harsh urchin]

so the amount of peril it eats is equivalent to the amount of stamina it would eat at a %

[hidden crystal]

As far as I know.

Basically having more stamina means that Kinetic Deflection can also block more.

[drifting violet]

Interesting conclusion, you have any sources for that?

[harsh urchin]

how useful is stam regen

[cosmic sigil]

so this

[harsh urchin]

how many do you run

[cosmic sigil]

so wait, it's better to have kinetic deflection with stam curios?

[hidden crystal]

The above image seems to be data mined, so I generally trust it, but the video of someone tanking a Damnation Daemonhost with their +9 Stamina was also fairly convincing.

[cosmic sigil]

source https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2905188402

[hidden crystal]

Essentially, yes. A +3 Stamina Curio doubles how much you can block with both your Peril meter and your Stamina meter.

[hidden crystal]

I've got three T4 Stamina Regen curios at present; mostly because everyone seems to sprint everywhere, and having faster regen means I can actually have some stamina early in any fight.

[hidden crystal]

Another plus point to a +3 Stamina Curio is that the Force Sword's push attack is awesome.

Kinetic Deflection already frees up your Stamina a lot for pushing (rather than needing it for blocking), but I've often done horde management by keeping it staggered for long enough to deal with something else.

[harsh urchin]

how mad do you think ppl are gonna be

when fatshark nerfs slaughterer

[hidden crystal]

Pretty mad, but I think it's justifiable.

[hidden crystal]

There was one game where a vet managed to clutch the game against a plague ogryn, but just had to rush to get us up when a horde arrived; I was the first he freed, and I ended up just stun-locking the horde for long enough for him to get everyone else up.

[cosmic sigil]

ok i'm gonna try that then

hp tg stam or tg tg or hp hp

?

the only think i do not like about blocking with the FS is that my view is blocked by the effect..

[hidden crystal]

Well, psykers don't get much toughness, so a multiplicative toughness bonus isn't that effective on them.

[hidden crystal]

There's a mod for that.

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/104

[frozen osprey]

Heresy

[cosmic sigil]

thank you

[hidden crystal]

Eh, I'm also a dangerous radical who likes the 3rd person mod.

[frozen osprey]

I have it enabled my default

Like gawking at my own outfit

[cosmic sigil]

bummer the only stam on my psyker is 75

[hidden crystal]

I'm not sure Rating 75 is always bugged, but it seems to be a requisite of the bug.

Annoyingly, the psykanium can't help you find out, because the bug doesn't happen in the psykanium.

However, Inventory Stats does seem to accurately report it in the Mourningstar without having to go into a mission: https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/152

[hidden crystal]

It's become a bit weird watching other people's game videos.

"... oh yeah, this game is normally first person."

[frozen osprey]

Ong it throws me off because it genuinely feels so natural

[cosmic sigil]

inventory stat seems to have a bit of a problem to refresh between loadouts

[cold geode]

[cosmic sigil]

so i tested a 75 and a 77 stam

i stay at 7

[hidden crystal]

Then it may be that 75 Rating doesn't guarantee the bug, but it does seem the bug requires 75 rating.

[cosmic sigil]

checking on the vet to be sure

[tropic vigil]

wish me luck

[hidden crystal]

I do wish the crosshairs worked better on the over the shoulder aiming though. Because that view looks great, but you can't shoot accurately from it.

[tropic vigil]

i went to blue and got unstable power iv

[cosmic sigil]

confirmed this one is bugged

[frozen osprey]

Get dynamic crosshair it fixes exactly that

[cosmic sigil]

thanks for the tip guys...

[hidden crystal]

Not well enough. The crosshair will jump to the target if/once the first person view is aiming at it, but not until that point.

[cosmic sigil]

and the one one my psyker too

rahhh

[hidden crystal]

You end up having to put the default position of the cross hair to the side of the target in order to get the first person view to point at them, and that's not usable if you're trying to rapidly chain headshots.

[hidden crystal]

Try reporting the bug; the more reports they get, the sooner they might actually consider it worth fixing.

[frozen osprey]

So sad ):

[cosmic sigil]

will do that... on the forums?

[hidden crystal]

Indeed. I put it in Technical Support, but I think they moved it to Bugs.

Seems they don't want to do an individual fix for each user, and are marking it up as something to get a general fix later.

[hidden crystal]

It's not too bad. I've got it configured to jump to first person when aiming down sights and when brain bursting, and centre view is good enough for a short range body shot when hip firing.

Even if aiming over the shoulder for precision shots would look so cool.

One minor annoyance is that you don't get the headlamp in third person, so lights out missions tend to force first person a lot more.

[frozen osprey]

I noticed that its the only thing i cant stand tbh

Unless i have a shredder or lasgun then the torch does fine for me

[hidden crystal]

Well, one of the main things I like third person for is because it gives you way better understanding of your surroundings in melee - which, alas, does not have a light attached.

[acoustic osprey]

difference in machine las guns?

[hidden crystal]

Less great when you're trying to shove specific elites on the floor (like I said, the aiming's... approximate).

I really do like the Force Sword push attacks.

The Illisi isn't great on injuring Ragers or Maulers, but you can still deal with quite a few at once quite well by just shoving some of them onto the floor.

I think a lot of people don't realise the follow-up push attack will put even Crushers on the floor. (Not however Mutants).

[spice veldt]

the illisi special also staggers ragers/maulers

if you spam light-specials, they come out fast enough that ragers/maulers won't be able to get a swing off before getting staggered again

[hidden crystal]

There's been a few "how many Crushers??" moments where I've just pushed them all over to buy us more time.

[spice veldt]

smh not running the trauma staff

[south zephyr]

probably not worth the melk bucks for such a minor upgrade, right?

[hidden crystal]

I wouldn't say so, no.

[burnt tapir]

Bugged descriptions?

[cold geode]

its crit

[burnt tapir]

I assumed flame staff still can't crit? Just like V2?

[cold geode]

it crits

the dots crit

[burnt tapir]

oh they did fix that?

Cause it didn't in V2

[cold geode]

having over 76% burn adds an extra tick

[spice veldt]

the dots themselves don't crit, but critical hits apply 2 Soulblaze stacks instead of 1

[cold geode]

listen to arco, i am dumb 😄

[spice veldt]

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-bernie-gif-27192884

[tropic vigil]

the new map is pretty cool

[spice veldt]

i like running through the map, and the midevent is interesting (though I'm not a fan of the elite spawns from right above)

only thing I don't like is the finale whose arena is meh and there's not many spawns

[acoustic osprey]

is this Peril Shock Trooper Build on the pinned posts still relevant?

[lunar hollow]

i don't like either events on ascension riser

ngl im fucking hating the map in pubs

[spice veldt]

smh

it has some split paths which I always like

[lunar hollow]

i dont like the boss spawn points

or how the events flow

[spice veldt]

I certainly don't like that early boss spawn right after the bridge

[lunar hollow]

the one i hate is on the dropdown

[frozen osprey]

if you want it to be

[lunar hollow]

because that entire area is liable to be absolutely filled with shooters and gunners

[acoustic osprey]

idk which variant lasgun to farm for

[lunar hollow]

and you have to basically race the moment you hear the music kick in to clear as much space as possible

[frozen osprey]

the brown one

[spice veldt]

recon lasguns aren't that great

you might also opt to pick warp unleashed now because that was buffed into a global damage boost instead of only just affecting force weapons

[acoustic osprey]

i'll do that

i'm just doing the recon for fun

[smoky wigeon]

okay I straight SUCK at Psyker lol

[frozen osprey]

just keep playing, and eventually you won't :3

[smoky wigeon]

Yeah just made them. BIG adjustment from Ogryn

Tried the staves at lvl 5 and oof

[spice veldt]

uh oh

the trauma staff is really shit at lower ratings

[smoky wigeon]

WELP Aight that explains it it felt absolutely USELESS

[spice veldt]

its charge rate scales from 2.5 seconds to 1 lmao

[smoky wigeon]

Also, the brain burst...what enemies should I be targeting that ? Monstrosites, armored units?

[spice veldt]

if you're not geared out, it's a pretty decent weapon in comparison to the rest of your arsenal

yeah BB is primarily anti-armor, anti-bulwark, anti-fast enemies (trappers, bombers, etc.), and basically being a long-ranged guaranteed kill weapon

it doesn't have very impressive single-target DPS compared to your other weapons once you've geared up (well, not that the staffs have impressive single-target damage either), but it does have range

[smoky wigeon]

Dueling swords any good? The melee options for Psyker seem super interesitng >>

Seems only the staves are unique to them

[spice veldt]

something to note is that you can sprint while channeling with your psyker weapons, so you can slide around while channeling them

duelling swords have mobility and a good block cost

beyond that, they do nothing else particularly well

mediocre single-target and below-average hordeclear

[smoky wigeon]

Aw damn. They seem so cool >>

[spice veldt]

yeah they got the drip

[smoky wigeon]

Yeah they do

Blaze SWORD I TIS THEN

[spice veldt]

duelling swords are generally superseded by the Deimos Force Sword, which has a higher dodge distance than the other force swords while having better hordeclear and single-target

[smoky wigeon]

Roger that I'll keep that in mind

[spice veldt]

the Obscurus Force Sword is the weakest among the blaze force swords, and I think it's one of the earliest that you unlock?

[light quail]

drip

now to try and push my life savings towards these pants (why are they almost 500k dockets)

[smoky wigeon]

Because fatshark wants you GRINDING

[spice veldt]

if you do use the obscurus, the hordeclear combo for it is light->heavy->cancel (cancel the combo by either blocking or swapping off and back)
you could also just use a Brutal Momentum axe if you have the blessing unlocked from other characters during the meantime that you don't have the Illisi or Deimos unlocked

[feral verge]

@spice veldt

is this the fit??????

[spice veldt]

ur head is gonna get weighed down by that hood

[feral verge]

bighead

[spice veldt]

nice arm tats

[feral verge]

had my first ascenion riser game on psyker

had a zealot tell us to "try to keep up"

he died 3 times lol

[spice veldt]

lemayo

[feral verge]

bellhummet

[hidden crystal]

But look at the defence score he got for only using the medstation once!

[spice veldt]

i'd probably say something snarky like "i've caught up now" when reviving them

too bad the people in my pubs are too nice or quiet 😔

[feral verge]

i'm too lazy to crop this

[feral verge]

wish i did say that

i did call it out in chat tho

[spice veldt]

well at least he apologized

[feral verge]

he died twice

[acoustic osprey]

damn 390

[feral verge]

went afk

then we rezzed him

died agian

then i made that comment

[spice veldt]

oh lmao that was after the 3rd death

[feral verge]

yeah

[obtuse moth]

dueling swords and force swords are unique also, the the laspistol has a unique push on psyker