psyker-class

[mossy lava]

Is there a mission thats best to do this on? Or is it just random chance on all missions to spawn a monstrosity?

[ionic frost]

how does it feel to be an unpaid beta tester?

they can't even get scripture placement right

[tender terrace]

feels great gonna buy $40 more in mtx currency tomorrow too

[tropic vigil]

yea i am having trouble locating one of the three scriptures

last two matches can find 2/3 cant seem to find third

granted were not thoroughly looking but usually it turns up

[mossy path]

Hi Intensity increases the chance

Your survivabilty is the most important. Get that down pat first before trying to help others. This game does promote teamplay but you need to regularly put yourself in positions to practice your solo play and not rely on teammates

[olive ember]

Rng easiest way is to get someone to shield ogryn and then find a daemonhost

Those guys don’t change targets so you have shield ogryn aggro and then just brace in a corner while you slowly BB it to death

[north solstice]

to add on to that try to do it on a lights out modifier

it for sure spawns a daemonhost

[steel flame]

I NEED YOUR HELP LADDIES. I dunno what to hunt for next on psyker. my white whale for the longest time was getting a perfect blazing sprirt trauma and i have that now (absolutely kickass btw) but now that i have it im not sure what i should try to craft next,

[north solstice]

uhhh

slaughterer+whatever illisi

i run slaught and rending(?)

[steel flame]

got unstable 4 slaughter 4 illi

[north solstice]

horrid, got a deimos?

[steel flame]

i do need an unstable diemos....

with slaughter

hmmmmmmmm

[north solstice]

go for the triple 80%s

yes

if im not mistaken transfer peril, but if im wrong you can always just change it

its not perfect but stat wise thats a beautiful staff

[tropic vigil]

i would choose flurry over peril transfer.

[shy prairie]

deimos blessings?

uncanny w/ ?

[tropic vigil]

Slaughterer

[ionic frost]

there's a scripture near the start that you can't pick up

[tropic vigil]

AFAIK for all swords you want slaughterer iv and other perk can kinda be whatever.

That explains it then. Are grims OK though?

Waiting to see high intensity drop for new map.

Overall new map is actually pretty cool. I like it.

[ionic frost]

idk, only played the map once so far

[formal ridge]

lol now Hounds mode is going to need 2 surge staffs

[ionic frost]

or a butcher ogryn around a corner =D

[proven raven]

I almost never swap off of Kinetic Barrage just because having 4-5 quickfire headpops in your pocket is suuuper handy

[ionic frost]

an autopistol vet could probably kill every hound =D

and get that sweet free ammo

[outer spindle]

Am I looks like Vergili from Devil may cry?

[ionic frost]

Hair checks out.

[compact cargo]

Nice game

[outer spindle]

I usually buy things from another store

)

[steel flame]

GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS

[frozen osprey]

1:34 pm

[steel flame]

time to file a bug report

[frozen osprey]

woag

[steel flame]

they rebroke ascendant blaze

somehow

[frozen osprey]

HOW

[steel flame]

its back to not always triggering warp charges

like it did a while back

ive been getting less than 1 warp charges in an entire horde kill with fire

[tropic vigil]

that explains why i felt like i couldnt upkeep my warp charges when i played purg

anytime i glanced i was struggling to stay at like 2 charges

[steel flame]

yeah its clearly bugged out again

[grizzled jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/dmc5-gif-14000810

[outer spindle]

Ha ha)

[steel flame]

i forget wheres thebest place for bug reportos again?

nvm

[frozen osprey]

call up pest control

[steel flame]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ascendant-blaze-warp-charge-generation-is-bugged-again/80274?u=zazymomba

[gilded viper]

what the hell

[languid cipher]

the god emperor blesses us with his light

[gilded viper]

done the new map (it was great but finale kinda suck imo) and my ship is full of fog

wtf is this penace

haven't played in forever and i forgot that one of the new penace need alot of warp kill

time to put down the gun 😦

[obtuse moth]

dark missions so you can just get a shieldgryn to tank a DH

[hidden crystal]

Even playing gunpsyker, I managed to get that fairly quickly.

I'm still barely a fraction of the way through the "save yourself from Perils using your ult" one, because that one's just a bad way to play, IMO.

The ult is useful for so many things that I'm not going to deliberately put myself in a situation where I'm using it up for that.

[graceful eagle]

just use Ascending Blaze and shredder with pining fire

[mossy path]

Just overcharge and burn your ult in the downtime between areas, got mine done in 3 matches. Then again I got all the new penances done in 8 matches total

[hidden crystal]

I could game it, but these new penances were supposed to be the kind of thing you'd earn naturally through play, or at least not have to be a complete banana to try to complete.

[uneven badger]

Keep crit chance or reload speed on a shedder?

[frozen osprey]

do you think they're gonna actually release the skulls backpack & frame or will they just be another wasted opportunity

[vestal raven]

the latter

[frozen osprey]

sadge

[drowsy furnace]

Just move out the way bruh

[gilded viper]

i am true

somehow did it on my first game back so it should be easy as long as i don't get hurt

[obtuse moth]

reload is more dps

[turbid folio]

would anyone have any good names for a female psyker?

[graceful eagle]

both is useless, keep reload for better rating lul

[frozen osprey]

something ending in -iker is calling out to me but i dunno what

[tender osprey]

i have no clue what this means can someone explain

[graceful eagle]

shoot 2 projectiles when you crit

[tender osprey]

is it worth?

[lilac tapir]

there is a meme Voidstrike build with it, otherwise no

[steel flame]

you can do some real good spam dps on voidstrike with animation cancel and nexus 4

[graceful eagle]

still meme build tho

[lilac tapir]

that's the build, ideally you want Voidstrike with 80% Charge Rate since you're missing Warp Flurry

and probably something better than infested on it...

[vestal raven]

nah infested is good

poxwalker hordes dogs and bursters, dogs is whatever but bursters and the rest are good to put down fast

[steel flame]

and you can also machingun m1 with surge too

its actually a lot of damage

[lilac tapir]

nice, finally can have backpack without buying emperor's edition

[hidden crystal]

MonikaThePsyka

[vestal raven]

Sonnen

[turbid folio]

thanks! also would anyone have any recommendations for a surge staff build? specifically for perks/talent?

having trouble coming up with a good build

[mental rock]

warp nexus with warp flurry

+carapace and +flak

or +crit chance and +flak

[lilac tapir]

hmm getting the disconnect loop again... and then

haven't seen this error in a while and now it's back, shame

[feral raptor]

Anyone have a few Screenshots of the New cosmetics? Couldnt play yet cause i have an amd and I cant find em

[ashen pilot]

took from a vid

[feral raptor]

Thank you

[obtuse cliff]

I see the veteran was a part of Operation Desert Storm

[nimble lily]

Yea thats why hes a veteran

[obtuse moth]

TONs of newbies flooding into damnation, is that because of the event giving more progress?

almost every single time all 3 are sub +50\

[mental rock]

who cares

I did damnation on lvl25 characters and below

its not about level really

[lilac tapir]

and Psyker had his grandma make him the new uniform lol 😄

[lilac tapir]

interestingly I just played 3 games and all sub 50 were good, so they are probably alts (or simply good players)

[obtuse moth]

everyone is rushing and skipping all the mats and leaving people alone in mine

and leaving books and needing to be told to use the heal before dropping when theres one for each person etc

the positioning has been a complete mess

got one of those vets that think its the teams job to hover around them swinging so they can shoot

[lilac tapir]

I noticed that too, I'm alone picking up all the mats haha, on the other hand at least the scripture locations are quite easy so far and not really "hidden" like on some of the maps, the level is also quick so great way of completing the 16 script/grimoire contract for the week

[obtuse moth]

they skipped the first one ;-;

the new map can lock downed people away from teammates it seems so they cant be ressed

idk if thats just cause they kept pushing so hard even with downs

[cosmic sigil]

I did heresy with 2 lvl 11. I was 23. The last one was 30. But yeah all t5 players....

[cosmic sigil]

Probably people who stopped a few months ago

[obtuse moth]

wish i had your lobbies, the first map i played with one person the entire match. the other two spots were empty even when we got all the way to the boss

[obtuse moth]

probably

[lethal helm]

been using deflector less than I used to. what do most people run? the one that gives crit on chained hits?

[feral verge]

slaughterer and unstable power

on high peril build, with a sword with low warp resist

extremely powerful

[lethal helm]

ah I don’t have it that low sadly

[feral verge]

better than shred (crit on chained hits)

[obtuse moth]

its fine on high warp resist too tbh

[lethal helm]

okok

[obtuse moth]

excellent synergy with warp unleashed

[lethal helm]

thanks

[magic burrow]

I got that in one game using a quicken build. Take the feat that gives cooldown reduction on elite kill, the 6 warp charges feat, and quicken (obviously). Brain burst three times for max stacks, burst once more to go over the edge, ult, repear.

Just pretend you're yelling fus-roh-dah everytime you ult. It's fun.

[obtuse moth]

barrage + psykinetic aura works fine too as long as you remember to actually purposefully blow up (you also probably want warp battery with inner tranquility for QoL)

[magic burrow]

quicken is much faster since you get double stacks and reduce the cooldown by lots

[obtuse moth]

i think its probably easier to just spam illisi special than brain burst a fourth time or some staff attacks

you never drop stacks with barrage and if you kill a few elites you will have your cooldown back before you run out of peril headroom, with the bonus of brain bursting much much faster and being able to burst more with less peril gen

[magic burrow]

I think you underestimate just how fast you can chain ults with quicken

[obtuse moth]

ive used it before

i also test things a lot in the meatgrinder

quicken is~~ slightly ~~more reliable if all you're doing is getting headaches

but barrage is a lot more useful for actually playing the game

[steel flame]

you need to use trauma more

[obtuse moth]

trauma is my main staff, i dont need quicken for it to fire infinitely at a horde

[steel flame]

oh its not for that

its to be a fuckin tank and a half

[ember hornet]

quicken

quicken is most fun for melee psyker, but overall less useful probably if you wanna play like an actual psyker

[obtuse moth]

id rather not dump my warp charges for that when i could keep my warp charges (and get off clutch bursts) or incinerate an entire room

[ember hornet]

oh yeah isn't AB bugged now or is it all soulblaze

something about not generating warp charges

[frank hazel]

I'm not sure which force sword to try

[obtuse moth]

if you don't know, use illisi

[ember hornet]

just not the obscurus

[steel flame]

yeah the warp charge generation feels exceptionally worse right now

[frank hazel]

I've been away for a few months so not sure what is good to use or not heh

[obtuse moth]

deimos is really strong but requires a lot more to leverage well

[frank hazel]

I can try the Illisi

[steel flame]

its almost certainly a return of the old bug where it wouldnt always trigger on fire kills and generation was really bad

[slate creek]

hello siblings, I got this sword, any recommendations which perks and blessings to roll?

[steel flame]

unstable and maniac

[obtuse moth]

niice

[frank hazel]

I also need to try and get a good purgatus with more burn but that means pain

[obtuse moth]

ye replace unarmored with maniac

[steel flame]

put unstable over exorcist, maniac over unarmorured

[obtuse moth]

uncanny can work if you want to go after crushers with special attacks too. keep slaughterer

[steel flame]

and you will be h2 oneshotting those mutants like there is no tomarrow

[slate creek]

yeah, I thought about removing these, just didn't know what to go for. thank you siblings!

[obtuse moth]

unstable def nice if you want to reliably hit the damnation mutant oneshot breakpoint (also requires the Warp Unleashed and Warp Battery feats)

[steel flame]

wot no

[obtuse moth]

well if you have unstable you probably don't need both of those

[steel flame]

you can hit the threshold with only a few charges and like 50% peril

and unstable

thats the beauty of unstable, it gives you just enough that you dont have to commit to 6 charges for a oneshot

[ember hornet]

so what did fatshark do https://i.imgur.com/sXT09nv.png

did they like, revert something incorrectly

[obtuse moth]

with +25% maniac 100% peril WU 4 stacks and 0 slaughterer w/o unstable power you're still ~261 shy of the BP on my second psykers sword

[steel flame]

HUH. you learn something new every day

i did not know the revolver special did that

[obtuse moth]

can you test that while being visible

[steel flame]

test what while being visible?

[obtuse moth]

smacking the bulwark with the revolver and seeing its behavior while not being invisible

[steel flame]

ill try that real quick

[lilac tapir]

it smacks you back, but not with a revolver 😄

[marsh kayak]

Psykina

[steel flame]

its the only unique enemy interaction the revolver special has as far as i can tell

i wonder how many other weapon melee specials work like that

[obtuse moth]

with t3 unstable power @ 53% peril it succeeds with 4 stacks fails with 3, @ 5 stacks barely fails @ around 42% peril
id personally prefer both feats esp since 6 stacks means you still can lose a few or have them drop off and still be effective

[steel flame]

fair enough

cant argue with that

[lilac tapir]

Btw. is there a mod where I can test the premium cosmetics (like in a psykhanium)? I wanna test if I can use the bionic eye premium cosmetic together with a head piece (so will the bionic eye still be visible if I wear a hood that doesn't have gogles).

[steel flame]

it replaced headwear

so its basically a hat

you cant wear hoods or anything with it

ooo

[lilac tapir]

aha, thanks, that saves me $$

[steel flame]

you wanna see if you can smash them together

[lilac tapir]

yea

[steel flame]

not that i know of

no mod exists

RN

[lilac tapir]

yea I saw someone here posting unreleased weapons couple of days ago, apparently there is a way to see everything that's in the game files but only in psykhanium obviously, not sure if it's a mod though

[steel flame]

im certain fatshark will nifbash them together at some point and sell it to us

[lilac tapir]

I would def buy the eye if it was visible while wearing a head piece that doesn't cover you eyes

so hopefully they will do it at some point 🙂

[obtuse moth]

does the one that lets you dress up your bots not work with that?

[lilac tapir]

didn't try that one, need to look it up

[obtuse moth]

theres also mod # 12 https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/12

idk if they work with the new stuff

[lilac tapir]

im gonna try it

[obtuse moth]

maybe its only aquila store but im sure you could ask the dev to add it

[steel flame]

ive confirmed that revolver is the ONLY weapon special that has this special interaction with bulwark, unless i missed a bash somewhere

[lilac tapir]

actually nvm, it says "Head" in the aquila store, so it's definitely a head cosmetic not like a backpack (which is "accessory")

so it definitely replaces your head piece (at least currently)

[quaint eagle]

Been dipping into the warp a bit for the first time, is brain blast still a rather niche occasion to be using it especially in later difficulties or is it any better than when it was first released?

[lilac tapir]

depends on your build but if you run KB then you definitely use it more often, if you run quickening or AB then probably you will only use it situationally

[spice veldt]

it got a 10% damage buff and is now affected by warp unleashed

[lilac tapir]

(or when out of ammo if you run gun build but that's bad situation to be in :D)

[spice veldt]

still a utility weapon nevertheless

[obtuse moth]

its much more niche in high difficulties but gets MUCH better with kinetic barrage

mutants need 3x more brain bursts to kill on higher difficulties 🤣

afaik its worse than its original incarnation

[quaint eagle]

was about to say, there's really not much whatsoever that increases your charge time is there

[obtuse moth]

kinetic barrage

[quaint eagle]

esp when trying to bb and you're off by a pixel and it cancels instead of setting it off

[obtuse moth]

it massively speeds up cast time and reduces peril generated so you can rapid fire chain brain bursts

[quaint eagle]

I mean outside of kb that is

prior to level 30 more or less

[obtuse moth]

nope, there are things that reduce peril gen

thats about it

you can feat for more damage

[quaint eagle]

the peril limit is admittedly a lot more generous than I expected too

[obtuse moth]

so it takes fewer

[lilac tapir]

Btw. I found out I can reliably kill Bulwarks with Shredder - just stagger them with PW and unload into their head and they go down very quickly. So much faster then switching to BB to open them up first. If you run Aura you will always have PW up. Sometimes can even deal with two Bulwarks in one go if there are other mobs around so when you PW you will immediately gain 5 stacks of Pinning Fire.

Shooting them in the back works too apparently 🙂

[obtuse moth]

you can also walk into them then dodge back and shoot them in the face (wait for them to start swinging then dodge)

or if you're a scaredy cat you can block instead of dodging to proc a bulwark selfstun, but that works better for melee weapons since ranged ammo weapons have some prep time

[lilac tapir]

thanks, gonna try the dodge method if I see one that's alone, usually they are together with other Bulwarks/Crushers/etc. though, so walking up close is risky for a Shredder/Illisi wielding Psyker 😄

[tropic vigil]

worth investing further?

assuming 2nd blessing is trash, riposte seems kind of gimmicky but dodge spam exists for a reason

[lilac tapir]

I would say yes, WR is really low which is good for Illisi and the other stats are max or near max, worst case scenario you can learn the Riposte IV if Hadron bricks it

[feral verge]

Yes

You want slaughterer and unstable power

And maniac damage

[tropic vigil]

superiority iii

unlucky

[feral verge]

Rip

[tropic vigil]

for as long as ive been playing i havent even seen slaughterer 3

its crazy

[feral verge]

Save it just In case fatshark lets us unlock blessings in the future

[tropic vigil]

2nd perk was carapace anyways

so im just going to learn riposte i guess

[obtuse moth]

you can use the dodge method fine in packs of bulwarks. its crushers that you cant see swinging that are scary

np, gl!

you generally murder everything in front of a bulwark then trigger it to swing

so its always the thing in front when you do it

[obtuse moth]

for me its a pass, low base item level means low chance of recovering the weapon or getting a second good blessing out of it, not a fan of either perk or blessing. 20% chance of 25% more damage is a /conditional/ /chance-driven/ 5% more damage

i really wish you could upkeep riposte better after they made it so the duration refreshes but it didn't proc consistently enough for me to use in a zealot crit build

wont proc at all if people are staggering enemies in front of you

or if you're staggering them by hitting them

[obtuse cliff]

Anyone up for a private game to get Monstronum?

[tropic vigil]

it ended up being a fat dud anyways so just got riposte out of it.

but once you break it down to the numbers i probably wont be putting it on anything

[topaz yoke]

how bad is the burn being below the 15 threshold?

is it like superdedooper bad?

or like kinda bad

or like meh

[lunar hollow]

burn below 76% misses a single stack

thats about it

that staff right there is usable

like if u wanna go for better u can but if u stop grinding at that one you're gonna do p good

[topaz yoke]

yeah i have a few decent ones but they always seem to be a little lacking somewhere

like i might bump up warp flurry to 4 on this one. Run n gun is kind of a meme, but honestly I can't notice too much of a difference when i don't have terrifying barrage

[formal ridge]

thanks emperor...

[tired tinsel]

This is the one I’ve been using

Was considering terrifying barrage but ended up going for crits instead

[feral verge]

Terrifying barrage is useless

[tropic vigil]

unsure if i would trade it to meet the 76% though

[feral verge]

All staves already suppress enemies

Terrifying barrage = wasted blessing slot

[tired tinsel]

Yeah purg has great horde cc

[obtuse moth]

the difference in dps between the last two numbers in damage per second

Stacks 16 to 20
131.05
143.09
154.98
166.62
177.91
Stacks 21 to 25
188.74
199.02
208.65
217.52
225.53
numbers if you add stacks with ascendant blaze

[tropic vigil]

and thats the DPS at 76% for burn?

is there a formula or calculator to see how much id be doing at 72?

[obtuse moth]

thats the base damage for a given number of stacks of soulblaze

you can see in your item stats the max stacks your staff can apply

[tropic vigil]

so blue # is how much each stack does, max x25?

[maiden wolf]

If anyone is wondering how the new white cosmetics match up with the old ones.

[cyan notch]

no thats stagger

hover over your burn stat

72 burn should be 14 stacks

[cyan notch]

no close this attack breakdown tab and move your mouse over the burn bar

[tropic vigil]

oh

didnt realize i could do that

mb

[cyan notch]

there its 14

u get 15 (the max) at 76% burn

[tropic vigil]

is 14 passable or do i miss a vital threshold

[cyan notch]

its fine

[tropic vigil]

TY. i appreciate the insight. never really looked into any of the numbers in depth and just relied on whatever felt good

so when people say breakpoint, thats just referring to whenever any excess wont do anything?

[cyan notch]

no reaching a damage breakpoint is meeting a threshold of minimum damage whereby a certain number of attacks (usually 1) will kill

[tropic vigil]

OK. i see

[ember hornet]

IIRC on flamer zealot, 15 stacks is a 10% dps difference compared to 14

Idk if it's the same

[north cradle]

Just had an all-Psyker run on the new map on Damnation

1 Voidstrike, 1 Trauma, 2 Purgatus. Fun times them were

We got one Grimoire and no deaths

[mortal pendant]

facial hair gets clipped out on one of the new cosmetic hoods

😭

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[stuck bridge]

what's a fun staff to run right now

[frozen osprey]

trauma

[frozen osprey]

i love psyker cosmetics so much but im always torn cuz i want goggles for fashion but im also sad i ddont get to show of my cool glowing eyees

[obtuse cliff]

Hmm, yes, that is a predicament, I do love my glowy eyes

[obtuse moth]

hover over the burn stat on that screen, oh someone helped you nm

[frozen osprey]

the only solution? turn my goggle lenses into headlights by turning up my glow by ten thousand percent

[runic python]

Ascendant Blaze still borked from this patch?

[ember hornet]

I think they borked it this patch

doesn't properly give warp charges on kills again

[unreal dust]

Early on its not bad because it allows you to suppress behind you. Later on, your skills should be on point enough not to need it (and you should have better blessings)

[unreal dust]

Blue number is the Stagger strength. This means your ability to stop the enemy from running at your face. Or being able to knockdown things

[orchid shadow]

If I'm going to explode, I'm taking everyone here with me! Kaboom

[broken carbon]

suicide bombing build for psyker when

[dull token]

nice! I have an illisi that is almost identical, love it

[nocturne badge]

i saw deflector4 and figured i'd strip it off then i looked at the stat line and figured otherwise

[ornate hamlet]

The next subclass for psyker is a fighting style from unknown lands with a big affinity for Toyotas

It comes with the point up emote

☝️

[sterile vale]

Ah yes... the unknown lands of Venezuela https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmSEC6hSBes

[dull token]

drift that baby

[limber silo]

recommended perks for illisi? I have flak already

[cold geode]

kinda up to you really

[vestal stirrup]

How do you get glowing eyes?

[frozen osprey]

in the chirurgeon psyker has a few option for blue eyes, one of them is glowing

and if you have either vermintide game, you also have the option for orange glowing eyes

[vestal stirrup]

Chirurgeon?

Oh the character creation guy

Unless there’s a medical deck I’ve been missing

Neat!

[frozen osprey]

the guy with the funny accent

oskar

[frozen osprey]

yea i highly recommend using them to flex on the inferiors without glowing eyes

[spice veldt]

i'll have you know that my cloudy cataract eyes are in high fashion

[dull token]

I have trouble playing anything but psyker since none of my other characters say "worship me or DIE" on abilities

[hybrid solstice]

Maniac damage

[limber silo]

thx

[spice veldt]

localization pls

[vestal stirrup]

Jesus Christ

[vestal stirrup]

I could be wrong but I think it’s

Monstrosities?

• Daemonhost
• Beast of Nurgle
• Chaos Spawn
• Plague Ogryn

Do not listen to me

[spice veldt]

yeah that's also what I got

too bad

i have already listened

[vestal stirrup]

Oh damn I was just

Basing it off of the pattern

[lunar hollow]

chaos spawn is fun to fight

[vestal stirrup]

I had no language at all

[lunar hollow]

i just wish i didnt eat shit every time it targets me

[vestal stirrup]

Still haven’t gotten to fight one yet

[spice veldt]

damn you got it just based off of context?

i put it through a translator cuz I forgot all of my chinese

i spawned one in the meatgrinder and got my ass kicked

[vestal stirrup]

Yeah

[spice veldt]

especially since I took off stamina for toughness

[vestal stirrup]

The ? Tipped me off it was an instruction relating to it

Four different tabs meant four things

Four things relating to the event probably mean the four monstrosities

[lunar hollow]

i tried to sprint slide away from one cuz i thought it turned

that fucker slammed my ass so hard into the ground

[frozen osprey]

okay in your defense before i realized we had glowey eyes i used blind

[burnt tapir]

Does the Surge Blessing work with Trauma Force staff?

[frozen osprey]

noh

[dull token]

I've been meaning to farm that surge/nexus voidstrike even tho I reckon is gimmicky

[orchid shadow]

Holy moley. 500,000 monstrosities??

[vestal stirrup]

Well siblings, our Beloved has given us a task! Let us take to the dream to deliver!

[dull token]

nifty... I love seeing rare blessings on blue weapons

[burnt tapir]

Where did my blessing go

[spice veldt]

i ate it

voidstrike and surge staffs are different weapon families

[burnt tapir]

Is surge not valid for surge

[spice veldt]

you would think

[dull token]

haha

[spice veldt]

but no, the surge staff doesn't have the surge blessing for it

surge (blessing) is only on trauma and void

[dull token]

since it'd only apply to leftclick anyway I don't see why surge wouldn't have surge now that I think about it

[burnt tapir]

I'm sorry, the Trauma staff, which cannot benefit from Surge Blessing, is a valid staff.

But the Surge staff, which is Crit based, is not a valid staff for the Surge Blessing?

[spice veldt]

of course not; what frivolous thoughts do you dare have

it would've been pretty nice for the LMB

[dull token]

could I interest you in a nice 'run-n-gun' instead

[burnt tapir]

It still double fires the voidstrike charged projectile?

or can it not apply to void strike anymore

[dull token]

last I heard it still works

[spice veldt]

it works on voidstrike's secondary yeah

it's only on the trauma that it doesn't work for the secondary

[dull token]

you can do the flame proc on crit with trauma for giggles if you like

[burnt tapir]

Mindblowing 5d chess by Fatshark

[dull token]

yeah blessing rebalance would be my top priority

[cyan notch]

coming in feb

2024

[burnt tapir]

looks like it might be an okay blessing for voidstrike? The crit rate is super low though right?

[spice veldt]

it has no extra crit chance of its own, so you're relying on Psyker's base crit chance of 5% without the perk or warp nexus

[burnt tapir]

kinda useless then tbh

[cyan notch]

surge pretty mid

[burnt tapir]

Is warp nexus additive critchance or multiplicative?

[spice veldt]

additive

doesn't seem that any multiplicative stuff involving crit chance exists

[burnt tapir]

So perfect scenario you doublefire like 1/5ish times

[spice veldt]

i guess if you just stay above 80% peril with a +5% crit perk and nexus, then it's a 30% chance for it

[burnt tapir]

Flurry/quell on headshot seems boring but more usefull

[dull token]

quell on headshot is so satisfying

unfortunately my best voidstrike with quell has terrifying barrage locked but oh well

[burnt tapir]

I like Psyker but honestly it kinda disappoints me

Sienna has 6 staves, all with unique left clicks.
Psyker has 4, 3 share a left, and 3 of them are basically Sienna staves

Flamestorm, Fireball, Conflagration

kinda lazy

[dull token]

I'm not sure voidstrike feels viable to me in damnation tbh

[burnt tapir]

It's the most flexible staff at least

covers any range, mild aoe, good stagger

mid damage

[tender terrace]

a shitty fireball staff takes like 2x the time to charge

[spice veldt]

eh, voidstrike has range but that's it

[burnt tapir]

also lacks the awesome animation of fireball staff

[pallid smelt]

whats the best perk in slot 4 for psycher?

[spice veldt]

trauma is more of the generalist staff

in part of the ability to deal with crushers and melee elites

[burnt tapir]

trauma can't handle a sniper very well across the map

[pallid smelt]

trauma gives me trauma when i use it

[burnt tapir]

Voidstrike covers any range

[tender terrace]

shame if only we had a tool for that

[dull token]

I wish I could get the feel for trauma... surge still feels like the game changer to me, especially with the new force swords to fill the gaps

[spice veldt]

and voidstrike can't handle melee elites; e.g., a single scab rager stops a fully charged projectile

[pallid smelt]

surge feels pointless

[burnt tapir]

I thought I remembered semi charged vs ragdolling ragers

[spice veldt]

a fully charged voidstrike projectile only has 6 cleave

[burnt tapir]

while collateralling everything around them

[burnt tapir]

good cc, mild aoe, and with good rolls does damage too

[tender terrace]

purg staff only staff anyway

[dull token]

you think? I feel like I dominate every room with a bunch of ranged shooters which are the only things that give me trouble with any other class/weapon... and force swords take out everything else

[tender terrace]

huh? most oggy guns great for this and basically the entire point of the vet class?

[spice veldt]

surge does get a bad rep because of pub psykers who spam it all the time instead of swapping to melee; I personally don't like it because of the indeterminate targetting and not having the busted infinite cleave that trauma and purg do

i find dense packs of melee elites to be more threatening than specialists

[dull token]

better oggys than mine then... my oggy hides on throneside maps with a bunch of spread out shooters

[burnt tapir]

Mind in Motion.

Jk, I run the ranged damage reduction lol

[tender terrace]

learn to embrace holding lmb on ripper

good damage, insane suppress and stagger

new dakka good too

[cyan notch]

fireball is same as conflag

[spice veldt]

kinetic deflection and kinetic shield are probably the two picks you could go for
I'd say run Kinetic Deflection if you don't use trauma just for getting revives off and not needing to pick a +stam curio

[dull token]

I have a good mk2 and mk5... I've tried lots of things.. its not like I die, I just don't like having to play a meat shield so carefully on some maps

[burnt tapir]

conflag was aoe boom staff I thought

[cyan notch]

yes

[tender terrace]

I kinda always have ripper out and just pepper spray anything that shoots at us, always stops them from shooting back or shreds them

[burnt tapir]

fireball = vs conflag = trauma flamestorm = flamestorm
nice palate swap fatshark.

[cyan notch]

no i mean fireball and conflag left click are the same

[dull token]

I hear ya... I'd say on 4/5 maps that's great.. but you know the big wide open arenas on throneside maps... those get me

[cyan notch]

so not technically 6 unique left clicks

[burnt tapir]

ah my bad

still far more

[tender terrace]

feel like range is biggest annoyance on pskyer but usually just f key and run at them

[dull token]

that's why surge is best :>

[broken carbon]

i wish the left click wasnt ass

[tender terrace]

the only two truly dangerous things in the game are hordes overwhelming your team and dangerous specialists or elite packs, which the surge does not handle well at all

[cyan notch]

surge is pretty good at elite packs

[dull token]

hordes with an uber illisi just don't seem like a problem... elite packs don't move when they're not mixed with horde... when they are mixed.. well.. if it was good for everything then noone would use anything else lol

[tender terrace]

melting the entire horde while being able to two shot pretty much anything in the game with demios is by far the strongest addition to the team

prob hardest carry I’ve seen out of any class or spec combo is purg demios psyker

maybe a vet with shredder a close second lol

[restive slate]

Deimos is beautiful

[dull token]

dumb question, do purg flames stack from multiple purgs?

[spice veldt]

the target will have a single soulblaze debuff on which different sources will contribute towards

[tender terrace]

heavy poking mutie in face so satisfying

[dull token]

its what I wish a dueling sword was

[restive slate]

What is Duelling sword special even for?

[tender terrace]

why, it’s literally there for you to use

just use it instead of dueling

[dull token]

roleplaying

[restive slate]

I miss Saltzpyre's pistol special

[compact cargo]

Anyone else has channeling randomly cancel itself?

Specially when sliding, sure it works, but occasionally it just stops charging

[cyan notch]

dont press sprint

[dull token]

I did when my mouse went bad 🙂

[spice veldt]

they removed the ability to sprint while casting on the staffs and brain burst

[compact cargo]

Oh great...

But it also stops when I'm just dodging

no shift presses

[dull token]

can't play right now, please tell me you can still charge BB while dodging

[tender terrace]

yes

[dull token]

whew

[compact cargo]

you can, just 1/10 you'll have it self cancel

[dull token]

we heard you liked rng, so we added some rng to your rng

[compact cargo]

Time to rile up more people again to get it fixed...like with th

[obtuse cliff]

The penance, Warp Battery, I am like 294/300 and I am struggling to figure out how to do this. I am maintaining 6 warp charges for what feels like 10 minutes. Am I bugged? lol

[compact cargo]

Not a single one can decay

[obtuse cliff]

Got it, thank you

[red wind]

gotta grind 500k now just to match a hood with the cape lol

we truly live in a hive

[compact cargo]

Love grinding with a 1/10 chance of channeling self canceling

[spice veldt]

seems that they added an invisible wall to the top of the walls of the psykanium

[compact cargo]

[spice veldt]

the wall isn't too high

you can make it over with 3 poxbursters

[sturdy quest]

disagreed

if you're running illis then purg staff is useless

so surge is a good alternative

[worn heron]

What are good blessings and perks for the Deimos sword?

[spice veldt]

eh, illisi is good but not infinite cleave levels of good

being able to cleave through all melee elites in your vicinity except shielded bulwarks is still nice to have in your pocket

[north cradle]

Me want Beam Staff

[ornate hamlet]

Is this good?

[formal ridge]

worst emperors gifts ive gotten in a while, coming from the new map

[uneven drift]

Well, if second perk would be flak/maniac and second blessings are slaughterer.
Otherwise you can try meme shred + blazing spirit build.

[harsh urchin]

the problem is that

the meme build needs more than 2 blessings to work xD

you'd also want slaughterer on top of shred + blazing

[river sand]

well just noticed undocumented change, you cant sprint while charging surge staff anymore ?

thats pretty shitty

[cyan portal]

the bug has been acknowledged on the forum

hopefully it get fixed soon

[river sand]

With next patch in august ...

[nimble lily]

Even if its 380 its a K12 so it goes in the trash

https://tenor.com/view/breakdance-break-dance-gif-24923144

[ornate hamlet]

Why?

[nimble lily]

I find them very boring to use, and if I'm on my Vet I wanna clear as many shooters as quickly as possible and the slow fire rate keeps me from doing that as quick as I'd like.

Doesnt feel or sound as punchy as I would like

[white cedar]

How's Chaos Spawn doing. As aggressive as VT or more? Can it still eat to heal?

[cyan notch]

yes it can

its a little faster i think

its grab attack has a lot of range

it has a backturned spin attack and a bunch of other stuff

https://streamable.com/n9yiw2

[white cedar]

no infinite back step kite, sad 😂

20m leap is very scary

[vestal finch]

They stole my weapon's rarities!

Can't have shit in Tertium...

[nimble lily]

Yea that one just started happening in the middle of the night lmao

[white cedar]

blessing and perk still there?

[languid cipher]

Just a visual bug

But It started with this update

[compact cargo]

Like the psyker bug that affects everyone one of us

[cold geode]

https://youtu.be/XVkWDN5He0M

[split oxide]

Things I have noticed change post-contentdrop

1. I can't charge-move-into-slide anymore.

• i can still slide-initiate-charging
• this now matches the slide-quell pattern

2. fully-charged purg seems to have reduced in duration
3. BB is cancelled if you press sprint key.

this breaks the lock-BB-move-into-slide-behind-pillar

I'm not angry, or disappointed ... just sad.

[round jay]

do mods disappear with a patch?

[spice veldt]

nah, you just need to run the .bat file again

if you have the player outlines mod, that broke with this patch

the other mods have been fine for me

[round jay]

mmmh, thx!

[spice veldt]

yeah losing mobility was big sad

i tried to sprint slide into a bunch of shooters and just ended up cancelling my charge

[cyan notch]

[spice veldt]

rip my toughness

[cyan notch]

the go fuck yourself button

the shoot a bazooka in your foot for no reason button

[safe crystal]

The step on a lego button

[ornate hamlet]

The peepee poopoo pissbaby button

[spice veldt]

nooo im not a peepee poopoo pissbaby i cant be i dind't intend to press shift noooooo

[safe crystal]

The evidence points to the contrary!

In other words

Lol skissue

[tropic vigil]

Is the track for the new map a new track or still part of the ost? If so does anyone know it's name?

[spice veldt]

peepee poopoo https://youtu.be/8tE3fL_vq04

peepee poopoo is such a nice phrase

[tropic vigil]

Thank you.

I can't seem to find it on spotify sadly

[spice veldt]

yeah it's quite a banger

rejects unite is prob not its official name and seems to be a placeholder by the uploader

[cyan notch]

does trauma stagger spawn out of grab

[wet belfry]

I wonder if they could actually replace some of the tracks in the game

The track for being the only one alive could be much better.

[spice veldt]

let it be known that iceslow can't dodge hounds #zealot-class message

[ornate hamlet]

Should Hadron have this blessing?

[safe crystal]

Its true, i have a major case of skissue as well

[obtuse cliff]

Dodging hounds is such a shit show though. Half the time the hounds aka black ops area 51 UFO levitation devices put on their anti-gravity boots and fly your direction.

[sour gull]

so im an oggie who knows only all hp curios

what curios does schizo class run

[obtuse cliff]

I run 2 toughness curios and 1 wound on my psker

[spice veldt]

i'm not a schizo cuz it's all real

I run 2 tough/1 stam, though I've been just winging it with 3 toughness lately

[obtuse cliff]

Since we can regen toughness pretty easily I felt it OK to take off 1 and replace it with the wound curio because we ARE paper thin still

For that 1 occasion where you just screw up and back yourself into a corner and get roflstomped

[cyan notch]

just never screw up

[sour gull]

i see so non oggies run toughness

thanks friends

[spice veldt]

not necessarily

we just happened to be on haha

i think most people just run hp or a combination of hp and toughness

[sour gull]

ah

[kind jay]

i do 2x hp and stam

[spice veldt]

I have like 1k hours on psyker, so I'm pretty comfortable with just toughness

since ranged enemies are the most annoying little shits ever

[sour gull]

too fucking real

i was like

meh on psyker

but then

[spice veldt]

yeah das some good shit right there

just feather the dodge button and you'll be probably fine as long as enemies aren't off to your side https://streamable.com/dfg8rx

[sour gull]

i do have some wave managment skills so im not total noob

i just circle around horde yes

herd them all up nicely while cleaving

[ornate hamlet]

Wait-

Somehow, I just realized what the Headhunter Autoguns' main niche is besides raw damage (for autoguns) today.

[ember hornet]

peril so low

[ornate hamlet]

They're Flak-killers.

[spice veldt]

begone your foul existence from this world

it's a shame that they have a low maniac modifier in turn

[ember hornet]

smh losing like 60% damage

[spice veldt]

also i didn't ask for battle meditation to proc like 5 times

[ember hornet]

lol

[dull token]

lightning bolts are my flak killer

[sour gull]

my flak killer is the power of schizophrenia

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/party-party-hard-party-animal-head-bang-concert-gif-19855932

I will put on a full dark techno spotify playlist now

I'm feeling that futuristic industrial dystopia

First one I found btw https://open.spotify.com/track/46aUvme87L6s1qa6zBiNog?si=d3b42ee5901f40af

[hearty python]

@obtuse cliff I run the wound for the occasions I get greedy with peril, because even after probably 4-500 hrs as Psyker I still occasionally overload when I don't have Wrath ready.

[steel flame]

Looks like I wasn't crazy.....well not entirely crazy. They just acknowledged the Ascendent blaze bug I posted yesterday morning

Hopefully it's an easy fix since they already fixed it once this year

[lethal folio]

Acknowledged means very little.

[steel flame]

i dont care. as long as they fix it

its an annoying bug and i hate dealing with it

i just want my goddam warp charges

[orchid shadow]

laughs in Kinetic Barrage

[steel flame]

i dont even understand how it came back

[vestal raven]

and u cant change ur loadout queueing for a mission or in the waiting screen

gross

[obtuse cliff]

I brain burst myself on accident on occasion. Sometimes I just can't help myself

[sterile thunder]

i just hit 30 on psyker, what sort of stats should i be looking for on my gear?

[tropic vigil]

It depends on what staff you're looking at. Curios can kind of just be whatever your personal preference is everyone seems to do whatever they're comfortable with.

If you want recommendations what to invest in first you will probably want to grind for a good illisi or deimos first.

[sterile thunder]

ty

im keen on the aoe explosion staff

lightning staff is cool too

and the big projectile staff

sorry i dont know their names

[raven gate]

if u just got to 30 and dont have great gear/resources to make a good set.
I'd go with surge staff (lightning) its great utility even if you don't have great stats on it.

[hearty python]

@sterile thunder
AoE ground is Trauma
Lightning is Surge
big projectile is Voidstrike
Soulblaze (fire) is Purgatus

Illisi and Deimos are force swords, Deimos is the barbed end one, Illisi is straight blade

[sterile thunder]

I appreciate you, Sprocket!

You too, Llama

[hearty python]

@steel flame what ascendant blaze bug?

[sterile thunder]

Should I just buy one from the guy that sells whatever you want and upgrade it from there?

[raven gate]

it takes on average around 100k gold to buy a weapon with good base rating form the shop. So unless ur swimming in cash. I wouldn't do that just yet

[tidal scaffold]

I buy from brunts armory till I get a good base then upgrade it :^) how stupid am I

[hearty python]

@sterile thunder you can, but you'll have to sped a lot of dockets, I if you have something that's working well now I'd say just keep using it and keep an eye on Melk's and run as high difficulty as you can for emperor's gifts.

[sterile thunder]

okay

[raven gate]

this is why i recommend surge staff. even if u get a bad roll on a surge staff. it'll still be good

[sterile thunder]

i have 170k, but im also wanting to buy the 300k cosmetic lmao, so i might just grind and check melk. What is a considered a good base? What should I be looking for in either staves or swords

[raven gate]

pair it with the Illisi Mk V Blaze Force Sword to do crowd control and ur golden until u can buy good gear

[steel flame]

AB is not generating warp charges as often as it should

[hearty python]

@tidal scaffold depends on how much cash you have, I've spent probably a million plus dockets but I already had really good stuff so I was just trying to perfect the optimisation, didn't work out for the most part

[tidal scaffold]

Ah so not ideal

[raven gate]

good base rating id say 360 (max is 380).
But if u dont have a lot to spend. I would settle with a 340 that has decent spread of base rating with decent blessings/perks

[tidal scaffold]

Anyone else having a problem of their BB not locking on properly

[sterile thunder]

Thank you guys so much!

[raven gate]

btw this is a great resource for details on weapons: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons

[sterile thunder]

Awesome

[tropic vigil]

A lot of it is just rng (all of it). Sometimes can spend 30k and get a near perfect 370 something weapon, other times you'll just get a bunch of 320s

The stat number doesn't technically matter depending on what you're looking at and dump stats

[tidal scaffold]

Higher number good?

[raven gate]

oonga bunga, bigger number go brrr

[burnt island]

Just visiting from veteran chat.
Wouldn't those anti-flak perks affect those numbers?

[tropic vigil]

Basically yes.

[spice veldt]

perks don't change the damage table

[tropic vigil]

But with illisi for instance you'll want a lower warp resistance. Which will in turn lower the overall number

[ornate hamlet]

The table always looked like that.

[spice veldt]

fatshark just loves giving weapons >100% damage to armour types

for whatever reason

[burnt island]

Lol interesting. I should share this with the other vets.
(No one uses headhunters. Too slow for our liking.)

[ornate hamlet]

I just changed one of them from Unarmored to Flak to capitalize on it.

[raven gate]

but i like headhunter mk 7 on my vet

[burnt island]

We need the dakka though.

[sinful olive]

I have been. Didn't happen consistently to me though, and I've only been playing the new mission and at first I thought it might have been weird map issues with invisible walls or something that might have been messing with the targeting.

[sterile thunder]

so a 372 illisi mk v is a solid base?

[spice veldt]

they removed the ability to sprint while casting

[tidal scaffold]

But once you lock onto someone it should stay on them around walls

[tidal scaffold]

Holy shit I think you cracked it

That would explain it

[raven gate]

oof low dmg

[sterile thunder]

okay, ill try a random one then

what % damage should i be looking at>

[spice veldt]

on the illisi, you can get away with either low warp resistance, mobility, or first target (since the first target doesn't scale the damage of the special attacks)

[raven gate]

this number is the base rating. this can go up to 380

[spice veldt]

the first target not affecting the special is probably a bug though

[sterile thunder]

ahh I see

I was looking at the 372

[tropic vigil]

Generally the higher the modifiers number the better. The total of the weapon is from perks and blessings added as well.

[sterile thunder]

Crazy how needlessly complex fatshark makes all of this

[tropic vigil]

What does mobility even do for force swords?

[spice veldt]

sprint speed and dodge distance

[tidal scaffold]

That's why I like buying from brunts, cause I can see what the base stat level is at a glance

[spice veldt]

both of which are nice to have

[flat shadow]

it doesn't feel complex idk you get a weapon and if the base stats tally to over 370 you have a good weapon

[tropic vigil]

Once you understand it more it makes it easier to pick out what weapons to invest

[raven gate]

force swords have infinite dodge anyway. love that about them

[spice veldt]

deimos has a "dodge speed" stat attached to the mobility stat which I have no idea about what it does

[sterile thunder]

Okay. this one seems pretty decent:

just for now

[raven gate]

that one is decent

[flat shadow]

It's moderate yeah

[raven gate]

worth upgrading

[burnt island]

That's actually fairly good. A good placeholder for a long while.

[red wind]

i’ve had so many decent swords be absolutely ruined by the blessings lol

[burnt island]

I mean.. So long as the perks and blessings aren't crap.

[flat shadow]

i hardly look at the blessings really

I get a sword, I swing it, things die

[raven gate]

if u see a deflector blessing on a wepon. buy it and melt it for the blessing

[flat shadow]

sometimes they die faster than usual

[sterile thunder]

and for my surge:

[red wind]

yeah but slaughter

[raven gate]

that one is also a good start

[sterile thunder]

cool

[tidal scaffold]

Deflector is what lets you block ranged right?

[sterile thunder]

this is my first level 30 on this game, so i really appreciate all of your help

[red wind]

is surge better than purgatus now or what

[raven gate]

yes

[spice veldt]

in the case of slaughterer, it is more than a 2x damage boost against a horde of poxwalkers

[burnt island]

Time to get yourself an Ogryn. 😄

[flat shadow]

I use Obscurus so not great with hordes anyway

[tidal scaffold]

When I get home I want the opinion on my rolls I got recently

[spice veldt]

the obscurus is fine against hordes

force sword normals are pretty nice

[flat shadow]

The attack pattern for horde is weird

[spice veldt]

light->heavy

works well, and you can QQ out of the 2nd heavy's endlag if need be instead of block-cancelling

[raven gate]

illisi is so damn good at hordes tho. never went back to obscurus after the new force swords

[flat shadow]

I know, illisi is perfect

which bothers me

It's too easy

[burnt island]

Fun tip: Beast of Nurgle does not eat you unless you got puke on you.

[spice veldt]

yeah it's pretty braindead

i like doing big numbers so I use it

[tidal scaffold]

Ooh shit I didn't know that

[flat shadow]

wait

y'all didn't see that

the only thing it struggles with is big single targets

But you can spam the special

and it kills them anyway

[spice veldt]

bonbon also speeds up if a player has been puked on 3 times in a short duration

[flat shadow]

I like the Obscurus special it feels cool

[red wind]

obscurus is in such a weird state lol

[spice veldt]

the special damage is mediocre except against flak enemies

but the stagger makes it quite nice

i pretty much just sniped ragers and maulers with it

[red wind]

if you want single target damage you have the deimos, for hordes you have the illsi
obscurus just exists

[flat shadow]

I like the Obscurus mainly for looks

[red wind]

true

[flat shadow]

I choose weapons based on looks

[spice veldt]

it has a nice straight broad blade

[flat shadow]

Obscurus sounds cool and looks like a broadsword

[spice veldt]

wish it had a skin with the obscurus model so that I could apply it to the illisi

[raven gate]

i got a black illisi skin. came with emperors edition i think

[flat shadow]

I like the staff that causes an explosion wherever you place it

[red wind]

yeah it’s kinda funny how weapon archetypes have one type of skin

like you can make your surge staff look like the purgatus staff because idk

[flat shadow]

It has like an eagle

Trauma staff

semi related I think the male seer psyker has the best evil laugh when he uses his special ability

[raven gate]

i propose that trauma staff is the best all rounder staff but only if u get good rolls on it

[flat shadow]

It lasts like 8 seconds

[spice veldt]

yeah it's very extended

[flat shadow]

It's amazing

[spice veldt]

I also have a male seer psyker where I used to run trauma + obscurus before the new force swords dropped

[flat shadow]

I need an audio recording of it

[tropic vigil]

I like voidstrike overall. I think it let's you have build diversity and covers a lot of bases

[flat shadow]

Void strike is the one that shoots the giant explodey ball right

[spice veldt]

having trauma's stagger and infinite cleave to avoid getting squished to death by a mixed horde is preferable to me

[raven gate]

wut u guna do against bullwarks hmm??? change to brain burst? HA
Trauma satff purist can run trauma staff the whole game

[flat shadow]

My trauma staff loses peril on headshots so I can 2 shot little dudes running at me for a long time

[spice veldt]

though against bulwarks I'm using brainburst anyways instead of trauma

[flat shadow]

Do all of the staffs have the default energy blob

[spice veldt]

purg has a flame puff instead of the bolt

[raven gate]

trauma satff
warp flurry
rending shcokwave
deletes everything

xecpt bosses

[flat shadow]

Honestly the reason I don't like flame weapons is because my fps drops massively when I have 2 flamer preachers and a purgatus psyker on my team

[red wind]

all the staves are funny to a degree but getting 6 warp charges by holding mouse 2 with the purgatus is an unmatched gaming experience

[harsh urchin]

sounds like you need a new pc

[flat shadow]

I get that 20 fps mid horde

[red wind]

that and it also comically drops my frames whenever i use it too

[harsh urchin]

you can also try that one mod that makes the flames less cancer

[flat shadow]

man I felt like my computer would be ready for darktide I have a lot of memory and an rtx 3070

Turns out it only has like 8gb of vram so it struggles

[red wind]

darktide is pretty poorly optimised tbf

[harsh urchin]

ya it's an indie game

[red wind]

it’s better now but still not great

[harsh urchin]

actually

no

it's a AAA game

cuz indie games work better than AAA games

nowadays

[flat shadow]

I would call it aa

They're not huge but they aren't indie

[red wind]

but it seems they suffer from the negatives of both worlds while reaping none of the positives lol

[flat shadow]

the game looks cool

it's too bad raytracing is still really tough

the weapons feel so different with raytracing on

[red wind]

i feel like optimisation suffers purely because ray tracing exists in the game at all

even when turning it off, it still persists to some degree or something so you have to manually set all values to 0/false in your config

or at least that’s what i had to do

[flat shadow]

I play with all of the settings at high but keep raytracing off generally

[red wind]

i have everything but textures and lighting turned down lol

[flat shadow]

Every time I start the game in the settings ray tracing is set to 'custom', I have to shut it off

[red wind]

also cpu worker threads have a lot to do with it so it’s finicky

[red wind]

“off” still keeps some values to like 0.2 or whatever the default is, “custom” for me at least has it fully disabled

[flat shadow]

Really? Huh

[red wind]

also disabling screen space reflections helped a lot with framerate with no visual downgrade

[flat shadow]

yeah I suppose there are not that many reflective surfaces

Everything is mostly matte

[red wind]

SSAO usually makes a big difference but not in this game lol

[flat shadow]

I don't want to turn down things like ragdolls

[red wind]

lighting quality is the only thing that matters

[flat shadow]

Because those are fun

Or decals

[raven gate]

raytracing made NO sense with the 20 series cards
but hey, at least eventually gpus with good rtx will be cheap enough that every game can do ray tracing

But now Nvidia is like"lol moore's law is dead, gpu prices go brrrrrrrrr"

[red wind]

turn scatter density off all the way or whatever it’s called, literally free frames with no difference

[red wind]

yeah it didn’t, still doesn’t

[tropic vigil]

Bash with staff for maximum damage insta kill

[red wind]

running a 20 series is a curse these days because games force RT on by default because “oh hurr durr you have an rtx card”

[flat shadow]

scatter density? The skin surface subscattering? Idk if I want my people in the game to literally pop out of the environment

[red wind]

scatter density just affects the trash on the ground

[flat shadow]

Oh ok

[red wind]

like pebbles or whatever

and other trash props

and even with it off, there’s still plenty of clutter

[flat shadow]

See

I want the game to look pretty

But I don't want 40 fps gameplay at 1440p

[red wind]

i mean i recommend trying having it set to 0 and checking for yourself

[red wind]

i’m in the same boat lol

[flat shadow]

Should I just turn it to 1080

[raven gate]

dear god no. you need to see what your shooting at

[red wind]

again all that matters in this game is having textures and lighting quality set to high

everything else is irrelevant/so minimal you won’t see a difference when mid horde

[flat shadow]

Yeah pretty much

My fps is shaky around 60 fps which is sad because I have a 144hz monitor

[red wind]

i can send you my configs when i’m home if you want, i got the game to actually run pretty consistently now

it still dips whenever there are a bunch of ragdolls because video game i guess

but playable

1440p with a 20 series is kinda tough these days lmao

that and the game overall is shaky

[flat shadow]

The strange thing I think is that on game pass, you can't really interact with ragdolls after they're down

on steam you can keep smacking them

[red wind]

that is

[flat shadow]

I wonder if it's just my settings or if there's a physics difference

[red wind]

the weirdest difference

[raven gate]

running a 1070 over here. dark maps are my favorite cuz i can actually reach 60 fps with FSR2 turned on

[red wind]

true

dark maps i’m running at literally like 200 frames or something

also this game at high framerates is so good lol

[flat shadow]

I would never have realized there was a difference until I saw a few funny clips on Reddit where he punches a ragdoll and it flips over a railing or in a different video showing the gore system and there's an insano moment where he just chops a ragdoll into as many bits as he can

[raven gate]

if some1 wants to sell me a 30/40 series gpu.
im willing to pay u in ordo dockets

plasteel is off the table tho. too valuable

[flat shadow]

I was like it would be funny to mess with a ragdoll and then I swing my sword at a little dude I just beat up but it doesn't move

My sadist fantasies destroyed

[red wind]

ragdoll interactions are a settings option but still

[flat shadow]

I have a 3070 but I'm struggling too

are they in video?

[red wind]

should be

it’s just an on/off toggle

[flat shadow]

I checked there earlier all I saw was an option for the amount of ragdolls

12 by default

[red wind]

also this game is honestly more CPU bound than it is GPU

[flat shadow]

Yeah I have I think an i7 from 2016

I forgot the exact model

[red wind]

my gpu doesn’t struggle at all even tho it’s a 20 series, it’s just that i’m also running a god damn 3800x lmao

good thing the am4 socket is oh so great and i can just upgrade myself to a 5800x3d or something

yeah honestly in the pre-combat sections of missions or just the mourningstar my frames are great

maybe turning off ragdoll interactions will help as cool as it is to behead already dead corpses falling down lol

[formal ridge]

whats the best anti shooter besides voidstrike

[raven gate]

vet is best antishooter

but if u insist on anti shooting with psyker. take the 3rd perk on level 30.
It reduces the charge time on brain burst. U can pick off a few shooters fairly quick that way

also deflector shield with the perk that lets u use peril to block attacks can let u close the distance if they are not too far away

[red wind]

or just let your vet do it for you lol

[flat shadow]

I think there should not be a movement penalty with the ogryn shield and if he has it out enemies should prioritize him

make it useful for its painfully weak 50 damage swings

[latent stirrup]

or pick 2nd one (ascendant blaze) and delete all of the shooters at once

[formal ridge]

lmao this is psyker forum

[raven gate]

i used to do that. But shooters tend to spread out to cover all over the place. so ur better of brain bursting them

if u catch them when they are grouped up. then yea its great

[latent stirrup]

if you are playing aggressively, you can usually catch them before they spread out

but yes, you are right. if they are spread out too far, blaze does not always work well

[formal ridge]

What is the best Anti Shooter Staff LMB

Sorry I wasn't CLEAR

I know it's not Purgatus

[latent stirrup]

3/4 staffs have the same lmb attack

[cyan notch]

surge

[latent stirrup]

not purgatus

[formal ridge]

What about the DAMAGE profiles ?

Same across all 3?

[red wind]

they’re all the same

i think

[raven gate]

surge staff is rlly good, at medium range. since u can stun lock them

[cyan notch]

surge has crit chance so ur gonna nuke when it crits

[raven gate]

even if they are reapers or gunners

[formal ridge]

lmb doesnt stun lock

[red wind]

i wish the primary attacks weren’t identical for 3 of the 4 staves lmao

they could’ve made a zap or something for the surge idk

[formal ridge]

im going to check right now

[raven gate]

why would u want to lmb they are all the same except for purge

[formal ridge]

just quit a match cause we had zero anti shooters

and I had a purgatus

[raven gate]

surge staff used to have a quick zap attack in beta or early launch

[formal ridge]

slowest and worst experience

[latent stirrup]

i dont get the question either 😄 because if you use a staff, you would use what ever fire mode is better for the moment

[latent stirrup]

no zealot or ogryn?

or did they suck?

[formal ridge]

we had an ogryn with grenades lol

[latent stirrup]

if you run purgatus, you should try ascendant blaze lvl 30 feat. it really works well against shooters

if you play damnation, you need 6WC to kill them though

[formal ridge]

haha

come on man

[raven gate]

im tellin u dude. I used to hate running into games where no1 took an anti shooter. But now that I run the fast brainburst perk. I dont hate those matches.

[formal ridge]

ill try it with 6 WC

[latent stirrup]

with 4 WC you can not 1 shot anything on damnation

[formal ridge]

but that is an anti hoard/oh shit moment

[latent stirrup]

with 6 WC you can 1 shot everything that is not tagable

[formal ridge]

you cant infinitely ascendent blaze against spread out shooters

[raven gate]

u wont be as fast as a vet but it will get u thru

[formal ridge]

the best option is LMB

which I came here to find out if anyoen knew which staff has strongest LMB as a backup anti shooter

but no body knows so ill go into psyk now and test

[red wind]

getting past the mindset of “my special is a panic button” is one of the cornerstones of playing psyker

[raven gate]

... all lmbs are the same dude. even in dmg

[formal ridge]

haha

[latent stirrup]

if you dont have AB and do not have a rnaged staff, you can always just use deflectr force sword, zigzag crab walk at ~ 45° angle towards them and then slap them in melee

[raven gate]

xecpt for purge

[formal ridge]

Ascendent blaze has the worst cooldown of all the options

Im not even arguing that

its a fact

[red wind]

but you get fire

so who cares

[formal ridge]

sorry but if you think you can spam AB you might be playing the wrong class

[latent stirrup]

only one of the 3 options decreases your cd.

so AB has shared worst cd with the bottom one

[formal ridge]

lol not really

KB synergizes diretly with psykentics aura

[red wind]

who cares about spamming AB when you have the purgatus staff

[formal ridge]

AB does not

this is sad

[raven gate]

duno what AB is

[formal ridge]

75% of the responses in here are just mind numbing

[red wind]

i mean you’re asking which primary attack for the staves is the best 💀

if you’re oh so smart go figure it out yourself

[latent stirrup]

if neither of the options that i gave you are working for you, it is a skill issue

[formal ridge]

sorry blocked

[red wind]

LMAO

[raven gate]

hes being mean and hurting my feelings. Im guna tell my beloved

[latent stirrup]

what a clown

[formal ridge]

I mean its better this way

[latent stirrup]

yes because we will no longer waste our time trying to help you xD

goodbye now

[red wind]

objectively speaking purgatus has the best M1 because it’s actually different and still provides utility

[formal ridge]

anybody that doesnt utilize a staffs LMB when needed... just ... dont know what to tell ya, skill issue

[raven gate]

thats the same logic as "the star wars prequel trilogy is good cuz its original"

[latent stirrup]

nobody told you not to use staff lmb

but you asked for the best staff based on lmb which is dumb

because all staffs have a better attack than the lmb

voidstrike main attack is straight upgrade to the lmb

you clearly are not even informed enough to ask a reasonable question

[raven gate]

vermintide had some fun lmb on its staffs. idk how fatshark dropped the ball like this

[latent stirrup]

beamstaff with 3 attacks

[raven gate]

beam staff was one of the most versitile staffs. i loved that

hell yeah brother!

shotgun staff became my new fav but close seond is still the beam staff

[red wind]

immeasurably complex!

[formal ridge]

void has slightly lower peril generated on LMB, surge has higher crit multiplier

flak unarmoured would be the perks, so between trauma and surge, which is more likely to run those... virtually equally both imo...

[flat shadow]

Sure it's bad, but setting an entire room on fire while your character screams is fun