#psyker-class

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wide tiger
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Sloppy over there

halcyon root
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Yeah another throneside lmao

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YUGE

light quail
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they did
Update coming over Skulls: Rejects Unite
-Cosmetic shop for dockets next to Hallowette (where armory used to be)
-2 new missions (Archivum Sycorax and Ascension Riser)
-Chaos Spawn field boss (he has some new tricks up his many, tentacled sleeves)
-Community events (play missions, unlock shit: first even starts Jun 1st? and will unlock the Ascension Riser mission as well as some cosmetics)

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and a bunch of unannounced QoL stuff (idk because no patch notes, but I pray we have a way to get rid of perk/ blessing locks)

tender terrace
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have they said they will get rid of locks?

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removing locks in current state would kinda break the way crafting is set up, but i guess thats what people want, to get perfect weapons faster lol

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might as well open the floodgates and throw stat rolling in with that too

tender terrace
vestal raven
idle aurora
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Removing the locks will actually allow me to create experimental builds without being ass fucked KEKW_ogryn

tender terrace
long wharf
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oof, poor Catfish

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Fatshark knows what it has to do to keep its playerbase, and simply refuses

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what I really want to know is - can I get a refund for the aquilas I spent to get a unique headpiece that is now going to be purchasable via coins?

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reskins/recolors of the unique cosmetics we bought with real money should be just given to us

tropic vigil
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worth it or no

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im leaning towards no

lethal folio
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I would.

feral verge
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let us unlock pls

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let my wealth have a purpose

feral verge
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not bad

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got it for the hell of it

sleek lynx
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omg i got a purgatus staff and THIS IS SO COOL ong lighting a giant pack of enemies on fire is an adrenaline rush

feral verge
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Yeah it's my fav staff

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I main purga

cobalt narwhal
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I like the fire one because of the whoosh sound that goes off when I use it

ionic frost
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@cobalt narwhal try the primary with animation cancel =)

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Rapid-Whoosh!

split niche
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I had to use the flame changer mod with the Purg staff... My eyes were bleeding

twilit flicker
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How good is the MK4 infantry lasgun?

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i suppose i should be asking the veterans this question, but they're wearing the wrong goggles ...

spice veldt
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efficacy aside, I hope you have the FullAuto mod

tropic vigil
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i should get rid of infested right>?

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i think i will replace with flak? unless something better

obsidian marten
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I would hold onto the MK4 unless you want infernus 4 for a different gun and hope for a balance patch.

golden tartan
ionic frost
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tried it with full auto mod?

twilit flicker
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interesting gun, single shot but the rate of fire is very high so its hard to control when the shooting is intense

ionic frost
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i wonder if that last 3% of stability would help much

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tho if stability could go up to 100%... =)

frozen osprey
harsh urchin
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They probably will be eventually

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Maybe in 2025 since its fs

golden tartan
untold meteor
ornate hamlet
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Psy-veil's basically "I can't see shit, but I don't care."

ionic frost
ionic frost
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why is it always the worst player in the low-intensity grim mission that destroys the grims?

digital loom
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they want attention

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are malding over their own ineptitude

ionic frost
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they get added to my block list =)

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i've played some games with 2 bots...

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i bet they have been blocked by tons of people...

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I wanted to play 1 more grim mission for contracts...but since he burned the grim I have to play a scripture mission. =(

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And there is no T5 scripture mission atm.

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smh

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ahhh, he's from miami

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stereotypical florida man

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no cure for stupid

ornate hamlet
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I don't even know who the worst player there is tbh

ionic frost
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spoiler: offense score 58 burned the grim after grabbing it

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I'm not sure what percentage of people would miss that...

digital loom
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oh shit i know that guy

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he always eats the books

ionic frost
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He won't eat mine anymore.

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And no, you don't get progress towards contract for burning the grim.

umbral trench
digital loom
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i think its funny, gives me opportunity to roleplay, but i do understand and appreciate that it is incredibly annoying to people doing their contracts

ionic frost
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I try to do all contracts on damnation so yes, it is. =)

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HISTG Grim Here I Come! =D

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if only we could add light's out to make it easier

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<3 lowered aggro range.

left crater
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aint she a neat lil gun

ionic frost
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Is Dickot trolling us?

cyan notch
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i think u got a problem with ur mod there buddy

ornate hamlet
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he's just shy

ionic frost
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it's a bot in lobby...\

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wow, disable true level and it still spams the error

cold geode
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i think that it just scrapes the whole folder so just because its disabled, doesnt mean its not checking against it, if you remove the folder it should chill out i think

normal sequoia
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is this worth keeping and refining? Or should I just take uncanny off and start over?

ornate hamlet
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I don't remember the damage distribution, but it might be worth something

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Exorcist is kinda mid anyway, so depending on uncanny's value you could slap slaughterer on it and fill the weak spot with flak or maniac

kind jay
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its borked but still usable if you need one. exorcist > slaughterer and weak spot > flak/maniac

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that way you can grab uncanny when you find a replacement

viral solstice
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look at the SURGE VALUE

kind jay
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ok but did you get warned in his discord or not

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i need the conclusion to this story

ornate hamlet
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WHOOOA

ornate hamlet
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putting here cuz image perms

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it's no volley fire, but it's alright

kind jay
drowsy slate
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? What’s that?

ornate hamlet
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crab

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realistic weapon swing

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mouse movement

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fighting simulator 2023

olive ember
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Yep dragging in this game is a thing too

karmic delta
karmic delta
ornate hamlet
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The game kind of isn't supposed to have a hitbox lingering that long, or at least I never noticed that with other weapons

ornate hamlet
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The weapon's attacks are ridiculously asymmetrical

cyan notch
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u could use it to get headshots more reliably

ember hornet
ornate hamlet
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Rapier overhead gaming

ember hornet
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hammer dragging NODDERS

kind jay
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draggin DEEZ

ember hornet
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now that I think about it

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what can you get away with dragging BM caxe

ornate hamlet
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Time for me to hop on my zealot

kind jay
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is rashad better than antax now

ember hornet
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yes

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albeit slightly

cyan notch
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u dont really need to drag attacks that have swing arcs

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mostly just for stabs

ornate hamlet
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Maybe the heavy can be dragged loregryn

ember hornet
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but you can for more area

cyan notch
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yea but thats just part of normal gameplay imo

ember hornet
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it is indeed

kind jay
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360noscope illy heavy special

ember hornet
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I've just never used BM cause momma didn't raise no bitch

cyan notch
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killing zombies 1 at a time

ember hornet
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that sweet sweet overkill damage

kind jay
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right? everyone chasing damage but true gentlemen chase the overkill

ember hornet
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hammer + bolter πŸ₯΅

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350k damage 351k overkill

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beautiful

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illisi does a lot of overkill too tbh

kind jay
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love it

ornate hamlet
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Okay, dragging heavies on caxe is painful

ember hornet
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I assume the heavies have a cleave damage target limit of 3 anyways

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because as we all know

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heavies should have cleave limits

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not lights

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it just makes sense

cyan notch
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they dont

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its just push attack

ember hornet
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lmao so it's just the Achlys?

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the one with a cleave heavy

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or the mk2 taxe, the one with the cleave heavy

cyan notch
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all the combat axes dont have 0 damage floors except for their push attacks

ember hornet
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pretty sure the Achlys has a hard cap

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nah it just goes close to 0

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might as well be a cap, but not 0

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meanwhile the lights

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make it make sense

olive ember
fresh reef
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Maybe playing hi intensity shock troop isn't the best thing to return to after a break lol

cyan notch
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probably not with 2 bots

fresh reef
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those were players, at some point

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about 6 different ones KEKW_ogryn

karmic delta
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Hab Dreyko is brutal with how claustrophobic it is

fresh reef
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I counted them

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18 poxbursters

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before the first scan section

karmic delta
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oof

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We were also attacked by a barrage of Poxbursters. But it was at the entrance of the hab block

neat sand
hollow jolt
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Just surge them UwU

fresh reef
neat sand
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I really should take the surge out more often but I'm a pyromaniac at heart XD

hollow jolt
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Purg is usually better anyways

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If only one of the staffs had better maniac damage. Though I guess force sword covers that for the most part

ember hornet
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skill issue if you cant understand how to hard carry with a weapon that can stun 5 things

hollow jolt
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If only it could stun far away snipers

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Vet pls

neat sand
ember hornet
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where's that yvanna clip of 3 vets dying to 2 back to back snipers

hollow jolt
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I tried to do Vent purge + sniper circlejerk once

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"Oh I'll bring a purg since I can't see"

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Should have brought a chair with how long it took for the snipers to be cleared

ember hornet
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I ran a sniper gauntlet with kant shotgun basically was killing all the snipers, I have 44 ammo picked up and am on 0/0, MEANWHILE stubber ogryn had like 450 picked up and 500 wasted after picking up multiple big ammo packs in my face

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whole team died to snipers and I was left on 0/0

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thanks ogryn

neat sand
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It's not to bad IF you have a party who use the ping button if they don't it will end badly

kind jay
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most people dont even ping important things

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i dont need a ping on the crusher in front of me i need one on the mutie coming from far back

ember hornet
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this still makes me rage like 2 months later

neat sand
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Or the gunner in deep cover so you can BB it

ember hornet
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why would you pick up ammo like that

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why

neat sand
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Dam they wasted more then they used what a twit

kind jay
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i dont see the issue here. this looks about right for 40k ogryns

ember hornet
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If I recorded it I'd probably have at least 3 clips of them picking up big ammo packs in my face lol

hollow jolt
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Yeah ikr, I swear people ping the shit already on top of us

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But not the gunner hiding in a corner

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Then I'll have people on the reddit saying "lmao Bio-optics is bad"

ember hornet
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optics competes with team nade regen right

ornate hamlet
olive ember
ornate hamlet
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The lone shotgunner around the corner after you turned around to slap the lone poxwalker:

kind jay
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just use surge 5head

ember hornet
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shotgunners post nerf are way less scary

kind jay
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the distant ones are. the close up ones that sneak up are still spooky

olive ember
hollow jolt
ember hornet
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the only mode I care for optics is sniper

hollow jolt
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I'm surprised you think that

kind jay
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snipers you say

hollow jolt
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Considering the other choices are "5% chance for a nade lol" and "toughness regen at melee range"

kind jay
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time for you to SHINE

ember hornet
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well I don't play vet either

kind jay
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thats ok you got a big blue beacon to help vets

ember hornet
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but generally optics doesn't help much outside of sniper gauntlet

hollow jolt
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Eh I find it good to know what the other classes can do

hollow jolt
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I swear most vet players know what color crayon tastes best

kind jay
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green

hollow jolt
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Yellow

hollow jolt
ember hornet
kind jay
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rude

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but thats ok i have my green crayon

hollow jolt
hollow jolt
ember hornet
hollow jolt
fresh reef
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maybe unpopular take but I actually find vet a tad difficult to play

hollow jolt
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Like bro please, at least put down the bolter if you're going camo expert

fresh reef
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(playstyle issue)

hollow jolt
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You're effectively 75% resistant to all damage

ember hornet
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rambo vet is super easy and requires 0 thought, so you can just use that

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or bolter vet is super super strong too

hollow jolt
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Shredder Pistol Vet is also surprisingly ammo efficient

ember hornet
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tbh vet can make almost every weapon strong

hollow jolt
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Only beat out by Kantreal mk12 Vet

hollow jolt
ember hornet
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yeah but mg12 doesn't touch the dps of autopistol

hollow jolt
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I swear Fatshark gave psyker recon lasgun as a meme

ember hornet
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I mean most psyker weapons are a meme

hollow jolt
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Unless you do shock gauntlet, then Kantreal is borderline CBT

ember hornet
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true but generally if you play it right you can just hold W with autopistol and never really worry about ranged

olive ember
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zealot training wheel class

hollow jolt
olive ember
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everyone has known this for months since the redditor enlightened

ember hornet
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recons are super sad yeah

olive ember
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don't worry

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this next patch is gonna buff them

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and I can run recon vet again

hollow jolt
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I wonder why the Reddit has such bad takes for Zealot

olive ember
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I literally only leveled vet cuz I wanted to run funny recon lasgun on not psyker

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and

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yeah

ember hornet
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and this derpy motherfucker invites me to a game at 10:00 while I'm drunk, and pulls out a recon on hi5 lights out.... with another person using recon

hollow jolt
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Recon doesn't even have good stagger πŸ˜”

hollow jolt
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At least I'm using the ammo efficiently

olive ember
ember hornet
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we died to a DH like 3 minutes in and I quit without saying anything

olive ember
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I mean you did say something

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you said something akin to "yeah fuck this im out"

ember hornet
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ah

hollow jolt
ember hornet
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fucking 2 recon lasguns

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on hi5 lights out

olive ember
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Look we said we would bring you flashlights

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we brought you flashlights

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why didn't you carry us harder

hollow jolt
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The 40k universe has lost the STC for backup generators πŸ˜”

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I hope they at least give the Recon some good damage and stagger

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They don't even have good blessings to compensate

ember hornet
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yeah

hollow jolt
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"Automatic lasgun" -> doesn't have Blaze Away" πŸ˜”

ember hornet
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they need to buff recon a lot especially cause it has 0 blessings

hollow jolt
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Indeed

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Especially after the 2 Infernus nerfs

olive ember
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recon lasgun used to be meta smh

hollow jolt
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Ikr

olive ember
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before they fucked infernus over smh

hollow jolt
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sledgehammer nerfed twice lol

olive ember
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they nerfed infernus into the ground and recon lasgun with it

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and then they decided to spit on infernus's grave

ember hornet
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I can't be too mad, fatshark pretty much mostly made changes I was advocating for and kept giving me buffs

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and then they gave me kant shotty ❀️

hollow jolt
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Yeah my brother mains exclusively Purg Psyker

olive ember
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Yeah lazorr's been eating good

hollow jolt
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And he's just like "wait they literally only gave me buffs"

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except the one fire damage nerf

ember hornet
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nerfed crit DR, nerfed flamer, nerfed psword, fixed crucian

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beautiful

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buffed hammer

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beautiful

hollow jolt
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Omg PSword needs to be buffed pls

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7 charged attacks pls

ember hornet
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sigh

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psword users be like

olive ember
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ruined their weapon

hollow jolt
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Supposedly it was 7 charged attacks at launch which was insane

ember hornet
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fatshark out here like, what if we just made some weapons 10x better than other weapons

hollow jolt
olive ember
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it went from 2 + 3 to 1 + 2 iirc

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but I never liked the psword

hollow jolt
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"Just get a T4 blessing to unnerf your sword" -Fatshark

olive ember
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and swapped that shit out for the antax

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but @ember hornet wants to nerf my antax too

hollow jolt
ember hornet
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meanwhile me as a hammer user farming 2 blessings for 5 months

olive ember
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I mean thats the same for all the staff users as well

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warp flurry + nexus/transfer peril/rending shockwave

ember hornet
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yeah vets can just get over it

olive ember
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two blessings hard grind kek

ember hornet
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the fact that staffs don't share any blessings

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is so fucking stupid

muted obsidian
olive ember
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he has one

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it just took him super long to get it

ember hornet
fresh reef
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vent purge makes for some neat screenshots

olive ember
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yeah I have a decent enough staff for surge trauma and purge

muted obsidian
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It was my first concecration of thammer

olive ember
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my voidstrike is kinda mid but eh

ember hornet
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I literally spent months just rolling hammers

muted obsidian
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Bad perks and stats though

ember hornet
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oh

hollow jolt
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I wonder if Thurst is getting nerfed next update

ember hornet
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if by nerfed you mean fixed

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then I really hope so

hollow jolt
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Zealots were anything but quiet about Thurst being "normal"

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No more 2-shotting daemonhosts πŸ˜”

ember hornet
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so many people just have no idea it's broken and are like WOW LOOK AT MY DAMAGE

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putting thrust on caxes and shit

ember hornet
olive ember
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I mean I have a feeling they will nerf thammer tbh

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with the whole 3 shot bosses

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prob will make it 4 or 5 shot

hollow jolt
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One day then 😩

ember hornet
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it requires max stacks of everything

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lol

hollow jolt
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Oh lol

hollow jolt
olive ember
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lmao could you imagine

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at that point @ember hornet moves over to psyker with deimos

ember hornet
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I can't remember the last time I've even had to think about a monstrosity

olive ember
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hence why one of its stats is defense and its got a damage cap of 3 and shit damage falloff but a large cleave

ember hornet
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only has large cleave with 2 power blessings tho

olive ember
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

ember hornet
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default heavy cleave is 8.1, 1 more than hsword light

hollow jolt
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Thammer need infinite cleave like old Psword UwU

light quail
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yes

ember hornet
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I just know chaos spawn is gonna come out

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and I'm gonna press F twice and ignore its attacks

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and it will die

light quail
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tbh buff crusher and thammer to get much more cleave?

hollow jolt
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Chaos Spawn is supposedly less tanky than the other bosses

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So it might die in 1

ember hornet
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I want to say bon 1 shot might be possible with thrust nerf too

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cause I one shot bonbon without max slaughterer or rising or marty during a mission

old field
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we don t get the 2handed forcesword in this drop ...

light quail
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bonbon?

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sounds tasty

ember hornet
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beast of nurgle

light quail
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garten of bonbon

ember hornet
cyan notch
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breast of nurgle

olive ember
ember hornet
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they already removed the best cosmetic from the game too

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smh

olive ember
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like replace dh teleport with a leap, add in a grab attack

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tada

light quail
olive ember
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chaos spawn

ember hornet
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behold my former glory

olive ember
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Lazorr would rather have bought warhammer dress-up than warhammer darktide kekw

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MTX and cosmetics > Content

light quail
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honestly shirtless is gonna come back but probably with accessories
zelly gets some bandages and stamps?
psyker has stamps and the aquila necklace
ogryn has that big ol belt on the 2-piece shop set
vet has some webbing

ember hornet
light quail
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shirtless but lore friendly (feasible) so James workshop doesn't throw a fit

ember hornet
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fuck lore friendly

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who cares

light quail
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james does
everything FS makes needs to be vetted by them

ember hornet
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isn't warhammer lore just made up on the spot anyways

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and it changes

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who is James

light quail
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james workshop

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games workshop

ember hornet
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oh....

light quail
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am excited to see what's going in the docket store

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seen the new bits on the comm link for vet and ogryn, as well as recolours of the higher level redacted penance gear on zelly

ember hornet
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but I used all my ordos for brunts

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trying to roll a perfect 550 80/60 hammer with not a T2 perk

light quail
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rip

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fooken locks

olive ember
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I mean

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ik there was that whole youtube animatic

light quail
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I generally don't care about weapon quality, I play damn and just swap out to whatever emprah gave me

ember hornet
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I'm just a hammer stan

olive ember
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and didnt they basically hire the animator, but the vid got taken down on youtube and got put on the 40k website but with a shitty filter etc. etc.

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thats a fucking lie

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he doesn't even use the hammer in chivalry

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didn't use the hammer in monster hunter either

light quail
ember hornet
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I'm true level +550 on zealot and it's exclusively hammer lol

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I mean crusher and evis are both shit, but crusher has the luxury of busted CC

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it's just so damn boring to spam special + L1 over and over and over

light quail
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I go special H1 if shit is getting rough

ember hornet
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I played 2 games with crusher after it released

light quail
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anyway zealot drip (ignore the hammer lol)

ember hornet
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totally trivialized melee, the stagger and suppression radius is just a bit dumb

light quail
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that's the point of crusher
immense stagger/AOE with the special

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same thing for Paul

olive ember
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Well yeah

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crusher is just

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stun baton

cyan notch
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u dont really need that kinda cc atm

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for the difficulties we have anyway

light quail
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that and it's awesome
you take a hunk of iron on a stick and give it an AOE slam

ember hornet
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it's like, fine for ogryn because their melee options are so terrible except for BB

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but pretty bad on zealot imo

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my buddy was showing off his mk1 club damage on crushers last night

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1500 with bugged thrust lmao

olive ember
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Do ogryns use the mk 1

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I thought it was the mk 3

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I'm like rly unfamiliar with ogryn weapons tbh

ember hornet
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mk1 is the OG club right

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whatever the OG club is

olive ember
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yeah nvrm I think its the mk 1

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wte special

ember hornet
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600 damage to a crusher without thrust wow

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meanwhile caxe exists

olive ember
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Apparently the pmaul does better damage than the mk 1 and mk 3 clubs?

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idk

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i'm looking through ogryn chat

light quail
ember hornet
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I think it does with special

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nah all of the ogryn melee options are terrible relative to other classes except for the bull butcher

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paul is fine too I guess

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still shit damage on paul

static agate
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God damn, getting pinning fire 4 is a pain in the ass on Autopistol

olive ember
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paul is apparently best

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huh didn't know that

static agate
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I keep getting level 2..

olive ember
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yeah my ap is still using pinning 3

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but I also can't be assed to farm autopistols

ember hornet
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I've never seen a paul player be very relevant on the scoreboard so idk

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they always have fuck all for kills

olive ember
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They’d be using something that the gorgon

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That’s the main reason you’d run a club or pmaul tbh

light quail
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I see mostly gorgons and rippers

ember hornet
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right if they want to do damage they have to use a secondary

olive ember
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I’m pretty sure meta combo is apparently bb + gg

ember hornet
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and well, you either use a melee that kills crushers or a secondary

olive ember
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Since GG apparently does great single target

ember hornet
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yes

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BB gg is incredible

light quail
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tbh the clubs are good
default has some nice strings and the kther variants slap too

olive ember
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BB + ripper also works if you can get a can opener

ember hornet
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GG 2 shots reapers

ruby plover
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erm

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u saw nothing

olive ember
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Tho idek if can opener is meta on ripper

ember hornet
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it is

olive ember
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Idk I just hate ogryn weapon selection

ember hornet
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and they are shit

static agate
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Is collateral important on Autopistol btw?

ember hornet
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semi important

olive ember
#

Yes I’m p sure

#

It affects damage or wte

static agate
#

got 60%, worth keeping?

olive ember
#

…. Uh….

#

Probably not tbh

ember hornet
#

I don't think collateral effects damage on autopistol

olive ember
#

Does it not?

cyan notch
#

collat is stagger

ember hornet
#

it's not stopping power

#

60 collat should be fine

#

just right click for pinning stacks

light quail
static agate
#

Any good?

olive ember
#

Which one was the one which affects damage

#

Oh

#

Perks are big rip

ember hornet
static agate
#

Was thinking of replacing stamina with Flak damage

ember hornet
static agate
#

25% against infested is a bit meh, but could be worse

ember hornet
#

and it's fairly ideal

granite mauve
#

it will never have more value than kill everything

static agate
#

Dont have higher pinning :(

light quail
ember hornet
#

or I could just one shot bulwarks, or shoot like 4 bolter rounds

olive ember
#

I can use surge staff kekw

ember hornet
#

the only situation where its very beneficial is large ogryn packs

ornate hamlet
#

Bulwarks is like

ember hornet
#

like 4 bulwarks 8 crushers

ornate hamlet
#

Bait a swing and unload the MG12

olive ember
#

Btw people were coping for eviscerator buffs but did the comms link even mention weapon balancing incoming?

light quail
ember hornet
#

tbh I hate when ogryns mess with my bulwarks lol

#

I am a bit biased because hammer

#

without fail ogryns will run across the map to F a bulwark I just baited an attack from

#

and make me hit the shield

light quail
#

nah its k
but that's how I play ogryn
club and rumbler, use rumbler to open holes in hordes and scatter shooters out of cover, never run out of ammo with a vet, club to deal with horde and smackdown heavy enemies when they come (overhead on the MK1 club goes hard)

ember hornet
#

that build just doesn't kill enough or have enough burst for me

light quail
#

stay in cohesion with vet and the rest, support with the club and rumbler where you have to

ember hornet
#

I always run builds that have the option to deal with basically everything quickly

#

in solo situations

light quail
#

box + heavyweight is a match made in heaven

ember hornet
#

box is like 1 enemy though

#

sometimes 2 if the funny happens

#

heavyweight kinda insane though

light quail
#

can be alleviated with the cluster box perk, but I prefer heavyweight because it's that crazy

ionic frost
#

no patch but the devs made true-level mod non-functional?

#

and the servers are laggier than ever

#

oh wait i disabled it cus it was spamming an error last night...and disabling it didn't fix it =D

gleaming hornet
#

What are the cookie cutter mods you'd be looking for on the Deimos? Haven't touched Psyker in ages, so I'm not up to date on the freshest tech

olive ember
#

Mods?

gleaming hornet
#

Perks/Blessings

olive ember
#

Flak + maniac and slaughterer + unstable power/deflector

hearty python
#

@gleaming hornet slaughterer is basically BIS for anything it's available for, FS included, then it's either uncanny strike, unstable power, or deflector depending on how you want to play/what you want it to do. Perks, as derpy said Flak + Maniac will get you most coverage of specials & elites, and maniac can make the H2 poke a pretty reliable mutie killer. There's a combo with I believe with uncanny strike and maybe unstable power with + carapace perk that can result in one-shot on crushers with a charged heavy.

#

I'd have to look up the video I saw about that one though, its on YouTube

olive ember
#

Pretty sure it would be slaughterer + uncanny. Unstable power is up to +20% power while slaughterer is up to +75% power

hearty python
#

@olive ember IIRC it was probably uncanny because it was partially based on the fact that the charged hit is really 3 or 4 hits so it procs multiple charges on one hit, I'm just not sure if unstable was also necessary or not.

olive ember
#

Honestly dunno would prob have to ask someone who loves the deimos like @cyan notch

#

Or arcotash will do

spice veldt
#

if it's a special heavy, then uncanny won't do anything

olive ember
#

Might give you max uncanny stacks for follow up but yeah

#

Tho I’m pretty sure you can just one shot a crusher base if you have all the stats align

spice veldt
#

uncanny is effectively a +33% damage increase on carapace for normal heavies so that's like 1.5k damage with slaughterer ignoring psyker's elite dmg and warp unleashed/warp charges too lazy to correct my napkin math right after waking up

olive ember
#

Like my obscures can oneshot crushers with max peril + max slaughterer stacks + max warp charges

#

Etc etc

#

I’d imagine a deimos could too

spice veldt
#

no wait uncanny is like a +50% increase oops

#

65% dmg to 100%

patent ledge
#

hello fellow psykers, decided to play the game again. Is the purgatorsomething stuff still good or should I look at other options?

spice veldt
#

staff meta is mostly the same

#

not much or any balance changes on that front with regards to the weapons themselves

patent ledge
#

ahh okay, atleast I don't have to worry about changing my weapons too much. many thanks psyker!

spice veldt
#

besides reducing the peril generation of trauma

#

Psyker got quite a few buffs so it should feel better to play

patent ledge
#

i hope so, i mained it for around 100 hours before quitting lmao

hearty python
#

Found the vid, it's Shred + uncanny will 1-shot w/crit and 2 w/o and no charge on H2

spice veldt
#

warp charges decrease 1-by-1, warp unleashed (lvl10 top feat) got buffed, quelling speeds got buffed, and two new ridiculously strong force swords are the important changes off the top of my head

hollow jolt
patent ledge
#

i should prolly get that

ember hornet
#

deimos and illisi are 2 of the best melees in the game

hearty python
#

@patent ledge there's also the Illisi FS, which mows through hordes like nobody's business. Doesn't have the single target damage of Deimos but it's charged ability is pretty much the same as PS and with slaughterer it then maintains the killing speed.

ember hornet
#

illisi single target is also ridiculous

hearty python
#

Just don't expect it to be able to down a Mauler in 1 hit

ember hornet
#

just not as ridiculous

spice veldt
patent ledge
#

man, psyker feels good to play thumbsup_ogryn

silent coral
#

Building a surge staff what perks do you suggest? I already have warp nexus as one of the blessings so should i commit 5% crit as one of the perks?

tender terrace
#

psyker easily the most overpowered

ember hornet
tender terrace
#

ha

#

i have been seeing a lot of shredder vets putting in work

kind jay
#

but its more of a preference. you should definitely have +flak tho

marsh kayak
#

what about shredder psyk?? is it the best option rn

near wyvern
#

I feel kinda downed from the "content drop". No words on crafting changes. I hope the community will refuse to do missions to unlock the second map pogryn

#

Would be funny to have player count just drop

#

On a content drop

tender terrace
light quail
#

nah
everyone is wanting crafting changes (namely locked slots going)

#

it's fair

#

I'm personally in love with the upcoming stuff but I get why most arent

uneven drift
# near wyvern Would be funny to have player count just drop

I mean, most likely it would be just counter on website that have nothing to do with actual statistic. These poor 3-4k people daily can't get 1.4mil missions in any acceptable time. Gating content for content starving game is a genius decision. But, i assume, most of us understand that this is just another time buying and they actually haven't 2nd map ready.

spice veldt
#

I want my map but it would be funny

tender terrace
light quail
tender terrace
#

has there even been something "officially" stated they are even entertaining the idea of unlocking?

light quail
#

people have made it abundantly clear they won't come back til unlocking

tender terrace
#

soon upon us will be the era where no developers will take risks and make interesting games and everything will be a mobile game pseudo mtx shop, unfort

harsh urchin
#

that's already happened

#

look at overwatch and diablo immortal and diablo 4 and all these new AAA games

#

the good thing is that as a gamer you get to pick what you want and skip the garbage

tender terrace
light quail
#

real shit or nah?

viral solstice
#

btw

#

this is called etiquette

tender terrace
#

shame, if only you were running quicken

viral solstice
#

why

#

thats fireball build

spice veldt
#

what a patriot

viral solstice
spice veldt
#

actual +99 morale boost

viral solstice
#

thats a surge blazing spirit voidstrike staff with ascendant blaze

#

10% of the time it does something

#

quicken would ruin the artful synergy

#

surge is the most important blessing

near gale
#

Gotta 1 tap those hounds

crude cape
#

what do you guys think about 312133 for a surge staff + illy build

#

probably mainly using illy

#

with surge for stun support

spice veldt
#

I use roughly those same feats for a melee build with illisi

ionic needle
#

an actually not bad curio from melk, what is this even

crude cape
#

is it viable in damnation+?

#

or am i better off using my purg+deimos 311113 build

ionic needle
#

your surge build looks good, are you killing enough specials/elites to run aura though?

#

maybe 311113 would work better for it? not sure how good warp battery is for illisi/surge but I guess you hit some break points

crude cape
#

hmm true, hard to give up 6 stacks lol

#

derp sorry

#

i have burst 10% in that tree actually

brisk kelp
#

Will a 79% damage trauma staff be able to oneshot goons (regular poxwalkers/dregs/scabs) or do I need specific perks/blessings for that?

spice veldt
#

poxwalkers can't ever be one-shot by default until they release the 80% stat cap

#

but you can make do with warp charges and/or warp unleashed

#

takes like 2 warp charges from 379 damage to one-shot poxwalkers

brisk kelp
#

alright, and I take it a perk wouldn't be enough?

spice veldt
#

yeah a +5.5% damage boost from somewhere will make you one-shot poxwalkers

#

dreg bruisers are the only annoying enemy because of their 450 hp

#

you'll need either 6 warp charges, warp unleashed, and/or +unarmoured to one-shot them

brisk kelp
#

do pox walkers count as unarmoured?

spice veldt
#

poxwalkers are infested; just that I'm remarking about dreg bruisers wrt unarmoured

brisk kelp
#

yeah, that's why I wanted to make sure

#

thank you, I'll slap some unarmoured on it for now, Hadron messed the blessings up anyway, so I'll have to make a new one at some point

spice veldt
#

f

brisk kelp
#

it is what is to be expected, tbh

spice veldt
# crude cape is it viable in damnation+?

I run with it fine in damnation, though I use the trauma instead of surge (and +3 stam with kinetic shield instead of kinetic deflection, since trauma enables me to get revives off)

#

anyhow, illisi alone can make the dream work

crude cape
#

so you're running 312233?

#

i need to farm a good trauma

spice veldt
#

ye

proud hinge
#

what should I change on this?

crude cape
#

this is the illi im using @spice veldt

#

should i keep rolling for a better one, and swap for unstable power?

#

i do like kinectic deflection, get rezzes off all the time

#

but i dont use trauma/have a good one

#

so maybe its time to roll one and try it

spice veldt
crude cape
spice veldt
#

bloodthirsty is fine; I'd prob just wait for t4 slaughterer

#

I prefer unstable power but even that is just for consistency and working without kills (e.g., against plogryn/assassination boss)

spice veldt
#

I guess you could go for a more offensively-minded illisi with unstable and hopefully with both maniac and flak

crude cape
#

is this good enough, or bad charge rate?

#

377

proud hinge
#

bloodthirsty complements my crit damage, so I think I will keep it that way

near wyvern
proud hinge
#

i rolled off the weak spot for flak

spice veldt
#

oops, I forgot about that bloodthirsty

crude cape
#

I was planning warp flurry + shattering, isnt that the meta?

near wyvern
#

It's the top DPS build

crude cape
#

what are good alternatives for shattering tho

near wyvern
#

None

crude cape
#

i mean there has to be a 2nd best lol

#

bc im probably not gonna roll it

near wyvern
#

Some would argue that focused channeling but you don't want to be trading hits

spice veldt
#

focused channeling for being more aggressive

#

since it prevents ranged fire from staggering you out of your sprint

#

and allowing you to sprint-slide into their direction

#

though most times you can run perpendicular to them

#

I should start getting into the habit of finessing my camera around shooters

crude cape
#

rip lol

#

i need to learn more trauma blessings, cant really fix it much

#

best perks on trauma?

#

i might try this and replace blazing spirit with warp flurry

#

doesn't seem awful

spice veldt
#

I like unarmoured and flak on my trauma

#

so that trauma at least has that going for it

crude cape
#

haha damn, alright

#

prob upgrade flak to t4?

spice veldt
#

probably yeah

wet jacinth
river sand
crude karma
#

any good build for playing around the surge staff

crude cape
#

is this a decent base or nah bc quell speed

ember sentinel
#

Id use that

crude cape
#

oh...rolled a better one

#

damn yes!

spice veldt
#

hell yeah

crude cape
#

got shockwave!!

#

even if it goes badly here after i can at least eat it

#

but alas...

#

im bottlenecked again

#

why is it balanced this way

spice veldt
#

we live in a society

crude cape
#

whyyyy

spice veldt
#

the feats being left up to your discretion as to what you think your build needs

#

whether that involves picking wrack & ruin for an infinite cleave option or warp unleashed for that generally applying damage boost

crude cape
#

this blue one is literally just better than the legend right?

#

even without the 2nd blessing?

#

just not sure if should keep using the legend while i farm to upgrade the blue or not

#

probs doesnt matter much

spice veldt
#

the orange has the nice +unarmoured for one-shotting dreg bruisers

crude cape
#

true

spice veldt
#

beyond that, it doesn't have any other advantages besides a 5% chance for funny blue fire

crude cape
#

i could reroll the perk, but i feel like that would be dumb before upgrading it to legend and seeing what it gets

crude cape
#

on paper it sounds cool but

#

wish they would buff some of the bad ones

spice veldt
#

the trauma at least does have an insanely large AoE

#

people have been making a blazing spirit + warp nexus trauma work

frozen osprey
#

I always have more plasteel than diamantine

spice veldt
#

if you played before the blessing of the omnisiah patch, the game gave out way less plasteel

#

like 200 plasteel for a damnation match at most

frozen osprey
#

Ive played since christmas. Maybe its just cuz i dont play damnation very often

spice veldt
#

yeah the proportions on pre-omnisiah patch were absolute shit

#

since the ratio of plasteel usage to diamantine is like 3-to-1, and malice struck a balance on that

#

this is what mines looks like

frozen osprey
#

Ive never had this issue maybe i just dont upgrade my stuff enough

#

I just take sonething, go "good enough" and move on

spice veldt
#

damnation gives you 805 plasteel and 300 diamantine at most, so 2.683-to-1 ratio of plasteel-to-diamantine
and consecrating a grey weapon up to orange consumes 1450 plasteel and 425 plasteel, which is a 3.411-to-1 ratio

ember hornet
spice veldt
#

:o

ember hornet
#

that's almost exactly what I have

#

I wonder if you can use diamantine to approximate true level

#

what's your true level

spice veldt
#

we can wipe our bums with diamantine as we wait for them to release a diamantine dump

#

30 + 870

ember hornet
#

damn I'm just 550

spice veldt
#

smh

#

I also only play psyker

#

I only have 70 hours on one other class and that's vet

ember hornet
#

why do I have the same diamantine as you

#

I also pretty much only zealot

#

all 550 levels are with hammer

#

lol

spice veldt
#

how many weapons do you upgrade to orange

ember hornet
#

uh every one I upgrade

spice veldt
#

since purple to orange consumes the greatest ratio of diamantine-to-plasteel

#

hmm

ember hornet
#

I upgraded a fuck ton of hammers bolters and shotguns

spice veldt
#

maybe cuz I had a shit ton of hours before the blessing of the omnisiah patch?

ember hornet
#

maybe so

spice veldt
#

no wait

#

you have the higher diamantine per true level

#

so you should be the one with more playtime before the patch

ember hornet
#

I played a fuck ton pre patch

#

probably like 350-400 hours idk

spice veldt
#

i have about those hours

ember hornet
#

maybe 250-300

spice veldt
#

but I also spend a lot of hours in the meatgrinder

#

i saw that darcy apparently have 1.1k true levels to 700 hours

#

I have a true level of 900 to 1.2k hours

ember hornet
#

I have like 1300 hours on steam, but I've also left my game running for days on accident lol

spice veldt
#

yeah same

ember hornet
#

many times

spice veldt
#

sometimes I just hit the bunk after a game and forget to turn it off

ember hornet
#

and I used to camp brunts and check every hour

ember sentinel
#

damn im only at 400

spice veldt
#

yeah and just alt tab as I left the game running to check on brunt

ember hornet
#

not brunt uh

#

is it brunt

spice veldt
#

smh ur words misled me

ember hornet
#

armory

spice veldt
#

nah it's not brunt

ember hornet
#

who is armory person

spice veldt
#

"requisition" is what we call it I suppose

ember hornet
#

and who is brunt

#

lol

spice veldt
#

good question

ember hornet
#

maybe we will get story in the next next content drop

#

idgaf about that tbh, I just want to smite heretics

spice veldt
#

hell yeah can't wait to figure out who brunt is

ember hornet
#

lol

#

they should make a save brunt mission

#

gotta go find him and escort him to the dropship without him dying

#

πŸ’€

spice veldt
#

wow escort missions!!!

ember hornet
#

escort missions are always the worst

#

in every game ever

#

I do kind of want a timed moving train mission

spice veldt
#

yeah it's quite easy to make a shitty escort mission

#

if they ever do one, it better be good

#

or at least not have the "defend" part be the emphasis

#

but rather the process of moving around

ember hornet
#

timed moving train just feels very.... warhammer in my head? idk

#

I feel like trains are important lol

spice veldt
#

and fairly understandable given the 10 million references to trains in this game already

frozen osprey
spice veldt
#

fuckers teasing us with a train going overhead and consignment yard's finale

#

but when are we going to interact with a moving train, huh

spice veldt
#

ur right

#

my mistake

ember hornet
#

space marine had moving trains right?

frozen osprey
spice veldt
#

i never played space marine enough to reach that point if it did have trains

#

prolly

ember hornet
#

I'm pretty sure it had trains

spice veldt
#

they revealed some new cosmetics in the recent trailer

frozen osprey
ember hornet
#

I could be mistaken though

frozen osprey
#

Let's hijack a moving train guys

spice veldt
#

though that was just clothing

frozen osprey
#

Smite heretics cart-to-cart

spice veldt
#

hell yeah

ember hornet
#

like what if

#

oubliette was getting the guy

#

but on the train

spice veldt
#

damn that would be too boring compared to the banger of a finale that we currently have

#

a midevent where we barely miss the boss and then a finale where we encounter him forreals would be pretty tropish and neat

olive ember
#

What if

#

Here me out

#

We have an assassination mission

#

But the mid objective is ALSO an assassination boss

#

And the final objective is TWO assassination bosses

#

And the mid event and the final event is just one room away from each other

spice veldt
#

so a boss rush of some sort

#

would be interesting to have a map that spams a bunch of bosses at you

lunar hollow
#

preferably non-assassination bosses

#

imagine fighting two sword bosses on one map

#

πŸ’€

spice veldt
#

o no

#

actual pain

#

teams can't even handle a single sword boss

lunar hollow
#

yeah lmao

spice veldt
#

fighting them isn't too bad if there's no horde around I think

#

so I guess if it's mostly bosses and not that much trash

ember sentinel
#

Doesnt blocking kinda destroy the sword Portion of the boss

#

I dont do assasination very often i dont remember

spice veldt
#

yeah the sword combo doesn't do that much stamina damage

#

but the boss also tends to have a guardbreak kick that eats all of your stamina should you block it

#

so if you accidentally block his kick and don't get out of range quick enough, you're going to eat a hit or two

#

and the club boss is significantly easier to dodge

#

since he only has a single swing and overheads with an insanely lenient dodge interval

ember sentinel
#

Chasm boss real threat is all the elites they throw in

spice veldt
#

I tend to just be super aggro on the boss sometimes and get greedy for damage

ember sentinel
#

On oubuliette i can just take deimos/purge and tend to be able to take care of any situation

spice veldt
#

smh why won't the sword boss just stand there and die

ember sentinel
#

True

spice veldt
#

and probably players not being aware of assassination bosses potentially spawning with either a sword or club

#

fighting a club boss and dropping their guard around the sword boss

formal ridge
#

how much can you block a boss if you max out your stam/block efficency etc

#

infinite?

spice veldt
#

probably

formal ridge
spice veldt
#

anything that's not blocking it

#

since the kick does extremely little damage

formal ridge
#

ah

spice veldt
#

besides being a block bypass attack

#

does 12 damage with a 2x toughness multiplier on damnation

#

dodging backwards seems to be the easiest way to dodge

#

and/or distancing the boss properly

#

I know that with an MKV duelling sword with maximum block eff and stamina, you can tank a daemonhost while standing still without kinetic deflection

#

since it has a base block cost of 0.33 at 80% defense

#

though I think the sword captain has two "kicks"

#

one is the final hit of his combo and the other one is the guardbreak kick that isn't part of any combo

#

the one that's part of his combo doesn't guardbreak you

#

i guess the best advice is to fight the sword boss as if they were a rager

lethal folio
#

Brunt is the catachan who runs the store.

crude cape
#

still need to upgrade this to legendary but what perks should i reroll

#

i guess keep infested?

#

and replace crit dmg with flak?

cyan notch
#

yes

#

crit damage is worthless

#

whatever u wanna replace it with

#

unarmoured flak whatever

spice veldt
#

just make sure to have 2 warp charges before you use it on dreg bruisers or else you won't one-shot them without +unarmoured (assuming you're running warp unleashed)

#

actually nvm my problem with killing dreg bruisers without +unarmoured is just cuz of my shitty damage stat

#

67% warp res is when I can get away with 4 fully charged blasts without killing myself, but that's also assuming that I'm doing blasts the very moment they are fully charged

ember hornet
#

if you were cool

#

you would just blow yourself up like crab

#

and type bang

spice veldt
#

does it count if I do it unintentionally and still type out bang

ember hornet
#

of course

spice veldt
#

sweet

#

with 72% damage and 68% warp res, 68% is the highest warp res at which I only need 2 warp charges to one-shot dreg bruisers without +unarmoured and assuming I'm running warp unleashed; any higher and I would need 3 warp charges

#

damn I refuse to actively maintain 3 warp charges

ember hornet
#

smh

#

just run quicken and communion

spice veldt
#

i will have my psykinetic's aura and kinetic barrage >:(

ember hornet
#

amateur hour over here

#

trust me I have a true level of +48 on psyker

cyan notch
#

blowing yourself up and typing bang is stupid

ember hornet
cyan notch
#

if ur 15 years old maybe it would be funny

#

thats like standing in fire and saying arouhghhhhh

spice veldt
#

real-life standing in fire or in-game standing in fire

cyan notch
#

game

spice veldt
#

arouhghhhhh is a bit long

#

bang at least is concise and gets to the point

cyan notch
#

its stupid

spice veldt
#

well that's the point

cyan notch
#

people wont even see ur message until after ur dead and halfway ressing you

#

the joke will totally be missed

ember hornet
#

skill issue tbh

#

type faster

spice veldt
#

i could pre-type that message during the explosion anim

cyan notch
#

no people just arent staring at chat

spice veldt
#

or have it on copy-paste

#

i'm sure they have some sort of peripheral vision though

ember hornet
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look at this non team player that doesn't even look at chat

cyan notch
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im talking average players

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dude theres a chat callout and an audio callout for ammo and health

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and people still dont see it

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what makes u think one random bang is gonna be noticed

spice veldt
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my healthbar is also going to red and the game plays a cue whenever a player goes down

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I absolutely notice whenever a player goes down

cyan notch
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im not talking about taht

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im talking about chat

spice veldt
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the sound cue is going to break their attention

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unless their attention is maxed from fighting a hound + horde + crusher or something

cyan notch
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yea and theyll see your chat only after u went down

crude cape
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i use trauma aginst groups of ogryns ragers etc a lot

ember hornet
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just turn up your FOV, simple math

crude cape
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most flak enemies i feel like i just illisi (sorry, was in a match, talking about my perk reroll before)

spice veldt
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what's wrong with them seeing the chat after I go down?

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flak is primarily for dreg gunners

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you won't two-shot them without +flak

cyan notch
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then ur stupid bang joke is worthless

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the punchline is gone and ur dead and then ur hi fiving urself like u cracked a great joke

spice veldt
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some people are going to catch it

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what's wrong if people miss it?

cyan notch
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thats the point of doing it isnt it

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for people to notice

spice veldt
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sure

cyan notch
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but if they dont ur just stupid

spice veldt
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what's wrong with being stupid

cyan notch
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nothing

spice veldt
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i mean the very premise of intentionally exploding yourself and typing bang is stupid

ember hornet
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why can't you have fun by yourself by being stupid

cyan notch
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u can

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im just saying its stupid

ember hornet
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it's not like crab is throwing lol

cyan notch
spice veldt
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well he kinda is

ember hornet
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sometimes

cyan notch
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im saying its moronic and unfunny

ember hornet
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but also he tops the scoreboards

spice veldt
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you're responding with "it's stupid" as if it's an argument

crude cape
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i blew myself up with trauma learning it (always used other staffs) more than normal

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feels like it has less protection

spice veldt
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if it's obvious, then why do you feel the need to keep repeating it

cyan notch
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ur the one asking me whats wrong with it

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im just saying its moronic

ember hornet
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I mean sometimes you just have an accident

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and get way too into stroking that sword

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bang

spice veldt
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you keep responding that people won't notice it in some way, I respond to that to clarify
then you answer "it's stupid" two times after the first time as if it's an answer

frozen osprey
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bang

cyan notch
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i dont know what ur point is

spice veldt
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I just don't get why you kept on arguing that people wouldn't notice it

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and then just ultimately saying it's stupid

cyan notch
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ok the point is to make the haha joke right

spice veldt
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mhm

cyan notch
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im saying its stupid because ur not even making the joke half the time cuz people wont notice

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so if people arent getting the joke

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u just blew yourself up for nothing

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and that is moronic

spice veldt
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and some people getting it will be good enough

cyan notch
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yea like 1 guy

ember hornet
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I mean, you should at least be doing something/killing something when you blow yourself up

cyan notch
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so 99% of the time ur just being a moron to the average player

ember hornet
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don't just like, blow up for 0 reason

cyan notch
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and that is staggeringly idiotic

spice veldt
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true

ember hornet
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meanwhile you have been typing bang in discord all this time

spice veldt
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I guess if I attempt a joke and no one gets it, I shouldn't ever make it again

cyan notch
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no i just click it from favourites