psyker-class

[spice veldt]

but if you're looking for any fast quelling, you won't get it since exorcist, unlike other on-hit blessings, can not proc multiple times in a single cleave

good enough if you intentionally light-spam, though spamming special-heavies is the fastest hordeclear (when there is sufficient density) for illisi so you won't proc exorcist if you go down that route of spamming specials

demonstration of one-shotting groaners with a bodyshot https://streamable.com/p9fglb

unstable power has my endorsement

[cyan notch]

u can bodyshot 20 poxwalkers too

[ruby plover]

bodyshot my nuts

[long wharf]

that costs extra

[ruby plover]

yeah it costs my nuts

[near gale]

Melk has finally offered me something for my psyker that I am interested in specifically for my psyker. Tier 4 slaughterer.

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[near gale]

Erm, I somehow got t4 unstable power when I upgraded a deimos. This was like the... 5th one I upgraded, the other 4 only got t3 blessings. 2 of them were deflector.

[cold geode]

imo they upped the frequency of t4 blessings in the shirtless patch

ive gotten more t4 blessing since then than i have since launch from upgrading using hadron

[ionic frost]

Makes me wish I didn't burn a ton of plasteel before that patch...

Sure would be nice if they would've announced that a week before the patch at least.

[cold geode]

of course it all appears anecdotal, as they didnt confirm or say specifically that its happened

[ionic frost]

Their left hand doesn't know what their right hand is doing.

[cyan portal]

I have a theory that there is a rogue dev at fatshark that is sneaking in positive changes despite management instructions. Pretty sure they were responsible to shirtless bug, and then skinnyorgyn bug so we got to keep shirtless for another two weeks. They probably tweaked the t4 rate on the sly too.

[cyan notch]

probably not

[burnt maple]

what's a good pairing with Unstable Power? i'm pretty addicted to Deflector

[spice veldt]

if you use your force sword for killing trash and not just for big game, then slaughterer

[burnt maple]

usually i use it to out of a bad situation and joust Mutants

and for hordes

[cyan notch]

i dont think unstable power alone does anything

[spice veldt]

slaughterer is pretty much one of the best blessings for melee

[cyan notch]

ur gonna use your sword for trash anyway

[spice veldt]

+75% power at max stacks is quite exceptional

[cyan notch]

1 stack of slaughterer is almost as good as max unstable

hard to justify taking just unstable

[spice veldt]

why is the mission board still creating chasm logistratum missions

I'm actually getting annoyed by this

[cyan notch]

fatshark being fatshark

even in vt2 when rerolling traits you could get the exact same one

dude how hard is it to just make it so u dont get the exact thing u just had

[spice veldt]

ikr

[burnt maple]

i hate the crafting system in this game

[spice veldt]

though the mission board seems to suspiciously print out the same mission in a row often times

[burnt maple]

locking blessings etc etc

[spice veldt]

and basically requiring you to fill your inventory with a bunch of items

[burnt maple]

feels bad getting a 370+ item and then it rolling something stupid like Run and Gun

[cyan notch]

xD wait for 25th for the new for delayed crafting updates

[spice veldt]

but no built-in inventory management systems like favoriting

and each weapon/curio taking up the tallest amount of fucking space

[burnt maple]

my favorite is curios rolling experience at level 30

[near gale]

So, what perks do I want on the deimos force sword?

[cyan notch]

maniac

flak

[near gale]

Uh, which is more important? x.x

[spice veldt]

write down 'flak' and 'maniac' on two pieces of paper, tape one to your front and the other to the back; then, attempt a backflip and pick the one depending on whether you land on your back or front

[near gale]

[round jay]

true, works 100% of the time

[burnt maple]

do mutants take more damage when charging? i've one-tapped them with my force sword before

[cyan notch]

i like flak for 1 shot lights on maulers

and maniac for mutants

[spice veldt]

mutants take more damage from melee in general

they always take 3x melee damage

[cyan notch]

idk if 20% is enough for those

[spice veldt]

same goes for dogs, flamers, bombers, and poxbursters

people have remarked on a mutant oneshot with the deimos h2, though I don't know about the buffs that entail that

[near gale]

I think the only thing that, might, have a breakpoint from 25% would be the trapper.

Those guys don't like taking melee damage. :/

[spice veldt]

they simply say no to your melee swing

wowee smelter complex again

at least there's vigil station

[cyan notch]

u can stab their head

or special light

special light works great on a lot of specials and elites

[hidden crystal]

I'm definitely addicted to Deflector, but then I've rather built my curios around the idea that I'll be doing quite a lot of blocking.

[orchid shadow]

What curios are people running for their damnation games? I'm still running a pair of +3 Stam and a +Wound and I'm trying to figure what to swap out, at least for the wound.

[dawn crypt]

is this any good?

[orchid shadow]

Mmmmm, Perk and Blessings aren't really in a good place.

Definitely the Blessings are poop

[dawn crypt]

What if i roll Maniac to Flak and slaughterer 1 to 4

what blessings do u want on it, quell deflector or uncanny?

i mean slaughterer first

[orchid shadow]

Then sure, it's okay until you can get one with proper blessings

[dawn crypt]

Is slaughterer and executor bad?

[orchid shadow]

Slaughter for sure you'll want. Then Unstable power if you can get it, but Unstable works best with a sword with lower Warp Resistance

2nd blessing is kinda up to you, as long as you have Slaughter.

[dawn crypt]

I also have this one

[orchid shadow]

I run Deflector when I use Surge, and Unstable when I use my Shredder

[dawn crypt]

and this

[mossy path]

Maniac. I have a Near perfect role that one shots crushers but since I don'thave maniac damage I two shot muties and 2 shot trappers with no stacks with light empowered attacks. I would recommend

[dawn crypt]

ur not in a rush to roll it, u can just use it as is

[ornate hamlet]

TMW you upgrade from a GTX 1060 12GB to this:

[dawn crypt]

i went from 2080 to 4070

huge diff

[ornate hamlet]

Now you guys will be able to reach 50 FPS on hordes

[dawn crypt]

nope

way more than that

[olive ember]

Smh 30 fps gaming forever

because im poor

[dawn crypt]

theres huge labor shortage in current economy

u can just work for a month and quit

finding job is never the problem anymore

[cyan notch]

dude thats insane

u can get 45fps in the morningstar maybe

[karmic delta]

I dont get people's problem with the Purgatus flames
Its really not that obstructive as everyone make it out to be. If anything. You can just chill while the Psykers are doing their job.

[spice veldt]

prob people with bloom on

[karmic delta]

Turn it off

[distant lynx]

you mean as the psyker singlehandedly disposes of all the hordes and ruins the fun for everyone since horde slaying is one of the most satisfactory parts of the gameplay loop.

Ps. this is coming from a psyker main xd

[karmic delta]

Done.

[karmic delta]

A W is a W

Its good the Purgatus Psyker is pulling their weight.

[distant lynx]

true true but still the sheer power of the staff made me ask for higher diffs.. even damnation HI-INT is kinda trivialized by Purgatus and Veterans xD
the staff staggers important stuff like dogs, it fks the horde up, great cc allround... its just too good :p

[spice veldt]

still straight up trivializes them

infinite cleave is not very balanced

[distant lynx]

purgatus + deimos with unstable IV/Slaught. IV... lmao..

[dawn crypt]

Ya its not a problem at all.

[distant lynx]

but lately ive been pairing it with this meme crit soulblaze Ilisi , so much fun in pugs

[dawn crypt]

All i care about is getting my 750 plasteel and contracts done

[distant lynx]

fair enough 😄

[dawn crypt]

I have fun either way 😛

On all 4 classes, using all weapons, killing all enemy types

[distant lynx]

im after the green circles on the Scoreboard mod! Jk :p

its just a vermintide disease, cant be helped...

[dawn crypt]

psyker is lucky that ogryns dont block their projectiles

[distant lynx]

thank god, i have PTSD whenever i play my veteran with any precision rifle

thnak god that the W tactic with shredder is viable

[dawn crypt]

its frustrating playing with ogryns that have no spatial awareness

[distant lynx]

yea and when the luck just hits right

u strafe right

ogryn strafes right

haha xd

[dawn crypt]

like theyre working against u

u know its not intentional

its just clueless player

[kindred lake]

i guess elite is better to take over special since there are more of them?

[dawn crypt]

elites are more beefy and specials are disablers ?

[kindred lake]

this is the only thing i can afford rn

[dawn crypt]

u already have exorcist 4

just replace the other one with slaughterer and ur done

keep the 10%

[distant lynx]

its bad but ive seen worse xd but as the guy says , slaughterer will carry it, swap specials to flak

a psyker rarely melees specials imo so

[kindred lake]

i have 0 blessings for this weapon

it'll be awhile

[distant lynx]

and elites will help with with cara/flak elites

when u power up the special attack

[dawn crypt]

in that case, u might get a better one by the time u get slaughterer 4

[kindred lake]

the special attack seems quite good

[spice veldt]

extremely good

I'd say choose between elite + maniac or flak + specialist

[distant lynx]

yea its cleave is insane. u cant do 3 attacks like with the PC IV powersword but it activates fast and it fucks hard haha

[kindred lake]

yeah i killed 25 scab riflemen in 4 - 5 hits

[distant lynx]

with rank4 slaught and unstable power on high peril with 6 stacks

its just way too OP

[dawn crypt]

i only say keep specialist cuz its higher % and disablers are dangerous and annoying to me. elites and beefy guys i can just use ranged weapon

[kindred lake]

in the meat grinder

yeah i feel like there are good arguments for both

[spice veldt]

mutants are a bit of a DPS check and you can usually just run away from elites

[kindred lake]

just need slaughterer now

yeah mutants are annoying for sure

i guess killing disablers is helpful on psyker

[dawn crypt]

ya u can just kite elites, they arent an immediate threat

[kindred lake]

feels so bad brain bursting up close but maybe now with sword i wont have to

my psyker is 30 but i haven't played it in months

[spice veldt]

though I have the luxury of running trauma to make elites sit on their asses

you can usually just beat the asses of flamers

[kindred lake]

the only usable staff i have is a void

[spice veldt]

trappers have an unusually high stagger esistance so I hope you have a special prepared to stagger them immediately the moment you enter their LoS

dogs can get one-shot by a heavy-special headshot

[dawn crypt]

u shouldnt have to brain burst up close if u had a good teammate that hits stuff off u. a lot of frontliners run off and fight their own isolated battle with no awareness of where group is.
people dont understand teamwork and synergy

[spice veldt]

mutants can get two-shot by heavy-special headshots, though I don't know if you need +maniac or not to reach this breakpoint

[kindred lake]

the breakpoint is nice to have

[kindred lake]

i still want to have an option for all scenarios

[dawn crypt]

you know all those times that youre forced to switch to ur melee weapon from ur staff or gun (on veteran) because ur zealot or ogryn are off in africa or in a corner by themselves.
that would be avoided if they understand positioning formation or team support.

[kindred lake]

but yeah people run off and on this class it hurts

[spice veldt]

eh

psyker does fine alone

just abuse the shit out of infinite dodges

esp with our generalist toughness regen feat (quietude)

[karmic delta]

Im surprised not many would just abuse the crap out of the infinite dodges

[kindred lake]

i was not aware of infinite dodges wtf

[spice veldt]

force swords have infinite dodges

[dawn crypt]

infinite dodge is def overpowered. but that wasnt a thing before illisi and deimos were in the game.
and u still need to melee for a bit before u create a gap for urself

[spice veldt]

obscurus

[kindred lake]

do like quietude for sure

[spice veldt]

mah boi was in the game from the beginning

[kindred lake]

that makes it even better

[dawn crypt]

obscurus isnt that good. and its still annoying to have to SWITCH out of ranged just because ur swarmed cuz ur team decided to run off. even if its for a few seconds.

[spice veldt]

obscurus is a fine weapon

[kindred lake]

588 dmg short for two headshotting a mutant

[spice veldt]

the only thing that sucks about it are the combos

but performance-wise, it's a fine weapon

[karmic delta]

I have a godroll Obscurus just waiting to be buffed

[spice veldt]

unless you're just light-spamming it

light->heavy works fine for hordes

it's part of my unreasonable hatred for light-spam

for all the people who light-spam on obscurus and think it's terrible

[dawn crypt]

i have 3 days off

can go outside a bit

[ornate hamlet]

You can go to the Imperium Gardenus to touch some of the 40K trademarked grassum

[dawn crypt]

😛

[cyan notch]

name checks out

[obtuse moth]

eh? any surge and purge staff is useable that you can get at level 30. void and trauma require specific blessings or stat rolls

[obtuse moth]

infinite dodges and amazing pushes were definitely a thing. i would say they were valued moreso because the obscurus was a utility weapon with deflector and dodges and pushing rather than a damage weapon

[ionic frost]

No you don't, I only see 4 sets of contracts complete! =P

The Emperor expects!

[viral solstice]

psykers arent real

or are they

does anybody have any documentary evidence

[dawn crypt]

So i need to make a 2nd zealot? or a 2nd account lol

[near gale]

Does it require 20/25% carapace armor damage to one shot the crushers?

[ionic frost]

Only if you want to farm zealot-specific items...I have two psykers since staves/force swords are really rare from Melk.

[burnt maple]

why? we can't share inv

[ionic frost]

My 2nd psyker has 42% corruption resist and 60% sniper resist on 2 health 1 stam curio... =)

@burnt maple blessings

[burnt maple]

do blessings share?

[ionic frost]

yes

[burnt maple]

ah i see

[ionic frost]

a level 3 psyker with pinning fire IV on a shredder is really fun...and a brutal momentum IV antax =)

[burnt maple]

lol

[shy prairie]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Assignment

lore for ye who wonder about psykers being allowed to exist after being arrested

Iota, Theta or Eta for our playable psykers.

[karmic delta]

so were acceptable?

[shy prairie]

Delta/Gamma for the poor souls lost to the warp, seen as daemonhosts

[shy prairie]

Tolerance and acceptance are two different things.

[karmic delta]

so its just the sanctioned level

[shy prairie]

Having a prisoner around who can squish people's heads between their fingers with their mind is not exactly inspiring

[near wyvern]

No, just stuff I saw on my dreams

[viral solstice]

thats allowable evidence for psykik dudes, psykers confirmed real

[shy prairie]

I wouldn't say any of the psykers abilities in the game are to the degree above "with effort"

because once you start getting past Eta you start getting "massive soul beacon for warp entities" and "pulling titans in two with their minds"

both of which are hunted, sometimes captured by the inquisition and if the psyker is unfortunate enough: by a culexus assassin.

which, there is no hope or prayer in defeating as a psyker.

[spice veldt]

hi intensity vigil station again

this mission board rng is sure working properly

[burnt maple]

how fast do you think sanctioned psykers can warprowave a hot dog?

[dawn crypt]

i think perfect staff is easy to get cuz theres so few blessings for them to roll. crucis hammer is hardest 😛

[shy prairie]

as fast as they think it'll go
though if they go too fast they'll end up a hotdog for a daemon of slaanesh

[burnt maple]

lol that'd be pretty awesome

honestly, i'd love a warhammer game that doesn't center around Nurgle's followers. I get that they're gross and easy to just palette swap zombies, but fighting daemons of Slaanesh would be cool as heck

[peak sleet]

Worth a pick up?

[dawn crypt]

i think u want infernus and

[olive ember]

Infernus is nerfed to shit

[olive ember]

not worth it

[dawn crypt]

well definitely dont get it for psyker.

even for vet its ..... questionable

i saw a guy with accatran the other day that was shitting on everything

cant remember what blessings he was using tho

he said he spent a lot of materials on it and he thinks its worth it

it was infernus and something else

all i remember was. i asked whether hes supposed to use the 2nd and 3rd shot in salvo one, and he said thats bad and hes not gonna burst fire such a fast wep

[viral solstice]

infernus was never good people just thought it was good because they had bad weapon rolls and too much marijuaners

keep it quiet

[elfin flower]

Hey psyker players which of the redacted penances are some of the biggest pains to do

[burnt maple]

Malleous Monstronum

and Going out with Bang when it was kill 3, but it's just kill 1 now

[olive ember]

stfu infernus was meta

;-; they killed my infernus recon lasgun vet dreams

[viral solstice]

[olive ember]

now I'm stuck with trash like the fucking lucius and the brauto

[viral solstice]

it was meta at a time when people did not know what they were doing this is very tru

[olive ember]

dies of cringe

its fine

[viral solstice]

and lone torchbearers (me) had to spread the gospel to the benighted unbelievers

[olive ember]

i'm sure the next balance patch will super buff recon lasguns

just you wait

[elfin flower]

I just got that one with my veteran character

[burnt maple]

the plasma rifle counts, yeah haha

[olive ember]

yeah its braindead easy now tbh

wouldve been fine if they just moved it to 2

[elfin flower]

I think I even managed to get 3 guys when I popped my plasma

[olive ember]

technically every class has a peril gauge im pretty sure

[spice veldt]

i got it by accident a day after it got brought down

[olive ember]

just that only vet and psyker have a way of generating peril

[kind jay]

ogryn psyker

bb's self

[dawn crypt]

the old penances are made super ez now

was fun doing it back then

no one had gear back then either

[burnt maple]

the weak pox hounds from the doggos map modifiers count for Going Out with a Bang

Ogryn peril is just spilling your rations

[light quail]

zealot and ogryn don't iirc

[latent loom]

instead of infested what would be better

[cyan notch]

maniac

[river sand]

ok guys, lets see how hard hadron can fuck me up

very hard ......

[latent loom]

i got maniac what blessings

[cyan notch]

slaughterer + whatever

[olive ember]

Uhhh I guess if you replace riposte with slaughterer its a decent all rounder I guess

[river sand]

its already scrapped

[olive ember]

.-. that 20% carapace tho

oof

[cyan notch]

uncanny isnt horrible

[river sand]

but i got 375+ slaughterer / deflector and slaughterer / unstable

[ornate hamlet]

?

Is this good?

[spice veldt]

meh stats but having +25 maniac right off the bat is nice

[ornate hamlet]

Too bad that you can't really change the stats

[spice veldt]

I myself run an illisi with meh stats just because it has both maniac and flak

[ornate hamlet]

Could've been good for spending diamantine.

I also wanted to combine Decimator with Headtaker (Axe).

[ornate hamlet]

Dumbest thing

[austere estuary]

If claw actually did damage that’d be a really fun wep you rolled

Maybe one day they’ll buff it

[primal plume]

Can a psyker have a fucking in the morning before I get home from the corporeal office

[cyan notch]

have a what

[uneven drift]

Finally fucking good fucking.

[kind jay]

technically yes just know hadron will be watching

[primal plume]

Does she rate it

[kind jay]

she will give you a full breakdown including efficiency and other neat stats

[karmic delta]

"damn varlet be too sturdy on that thrust game

[kind jay]

i can only do so much with thrust 1

[karmic delta]

*fucking finishes
I trust you are pleased. Varlet.

[quasi pier]

My thrust is bugged so I finish a demonhost in two pumps

[kind jay]

"how was your mission" "i fucked a demonhost to death"

[cyan notch]

[karmic delta]

I thrust you!

How could you do me like this???

[forest coral]

Thrust in me who thrusts in you

[cyan notch]

[karmic delta]

I thrust you associates. Can you thrust me?

[cyan notch]

[karmic delta]

[vestal raven]

I have been converted to a dueling sword main

[cyan notch]

my condolences

[vestal raven]

I KNOW

[karmic delta]

Which mark

[vestal raven]

the sword in question

i have no idea what im doing what it stabs good

[forest coral]

You mean chop

[vestal raven]

no, i poke everything to death

esp crushers, great past time if i catch one alone, in a dark alleyway

[forest coral]

V is chopping heavy tho

[karmic delta]

V is the most damaging one right?

Sabers are good against maniacs

[vestal raven]

im guessing so, or its the move set 🤷‍♂️

[forest coral]

Iv is stabber

II is stab first and then chop second heavy

[vestal raven]

oh u mean the heavies

[forest coral]

Ye

[vestal raven]

yeah they are fun as hell

[forest coral]

I used to mainly use duelling sword before Deimos existed

[cyan notch]

i used tac axes and obscurus

[karmic delta]

Deimos and Illisi spoiled me

[forest coral]

Ye. Illisi power spike kind of insane

[ember hornet]

I enjoyed the obscurus before it got completely outclassed

[vestal raven]

demios has a disgusting grip on me

one shotting mutants\

is addicting

[karmic delta]

Warp Battery?

[obtuse moth]

and +mutants and warp unleashed

[vestal raven]

^

[ember hornet]

you can technically one shot them with illisi at max slaughterer, but that's obviously more gimmicky

[kind jay]

bloodthirsty illy can do it real easy

i prefer it cause it works during mixed with no aiming needed

[ember hornet]

oh yeah I was thinking about swapping unstable for bloodthirsty

[cyan notch]

its cool but theyre kinda the same

[ember hornet]

yeah looking at the numbers unstable is probably higher average dps

[vestal raven]

this sword, in 2 charges at 80 peril

mutant fucker 9000

[obtuse moth]

that sounds pretty neat, definitely not the same use cases because it requires fulfilling bloodthirsty first and not having it expire

[kind jay]

you are right though with dt's spawns there's usually a mook around to proc it

[ember hornet]

imagine if it was still 5 seconds

[kind jay]

the glory days

[glad glade]

Which perk should I refine?

[obtuse moth]

specialists

crit is double burn

[glad glade]

To what?

Unyielding?

[obtuse moth]

flak unyielding maniac all work depending on preference

purg is pretty flexible, tbh the next person might tell you to reperk crit chance and that works too

[glad glade]

Oh okay, I always thought flak isnt that good because the damage difference with +25% perk is not that big

[ember hornet]

25% is 25%

it's multiplicative

better than many blessings

[obtuse moth]

its not to the tipping point of say like carapace

where like a lot of ranged weapons do 2%, an extra 25% means you do 2.5% damage lel

[obtuse moth]

do you also need slaughterer stacks? im not getting 1shots in the meatgrinder with 6 warp charges and 100% warp unleashed + bloodthirsty, even if i had 25% maniacs. with one stack of slaughterer 3 id still be shy. cba to rebless or do the math for slaughterer 4

[tropic vigil]

Personally I would swap specialist to flak. I know some people don't like crit chance but I find it nice on purg

[obtuse moth]

id prefer flak/maniac or flak/unyielding but prefer crit over specialists, esp only 8%

[kind jay]

yeah at least 4 i think not at my pc

definitely can tho

[obtuse moth]

i think youd only need 3 stacks of slaughter 3 or 4 if you have 25% maniacs and 100% peril if my math is correct

but tbh idk if the damage from warp charges or WU stacks additively or multiplicatively with power

[pine relic]

This is very cheap for double T4 blessings.

[obtuse moth]

sure, if you want those two on that exact weapon

[pine relic]

I already have T4 Slaughterer and T3 Defector, so I will pass.

[kindred lake]

is there a hierarchy of staves

i have no idea if they are equal in terms of efficiency

[obtuse moth]

it depends on preference, difficulty and experience but i would say trauma, purgatus, surge, voidstrike

the first two have no target limit

voidstrike works really well on lower difficulties but suffers with higher horde density and tougher and larger numbers of elites and specials

surge is situational and its a utility staff with target cap limitations as well

trauma can cc almost anything and make safe space around you or your allies infinitely, and purgatus can burn basically everything including bosses besides crushers. (bulwarks generally burn to death sometime after the first time they try to swing and start accumulating soulblaze stacks)

and they both can horde clear, no matter the numbers, they only get relatively stronger because they both do more damage and at a certain point you start losing peril instead of gaining it because youre killing so many things so quickly

trauma definitely needs high rolls on nearly all 5 stats

that said they all work fine and are completely viable, though there are a few tricks and builds/blessings you might want to use if bringing into harder content

[kindred lake]

nice thats a great breakdown, thanks

i only have a usable void staff rn but it does struggle a bit when things get busy up close

i will try out the traume and purg when i can, they sound fun

[obtuse moth]

tap your quell button immediately after the bolt leaves your staff

and then fire again (making sure you've let go of your quell button or it won't work)

you can rapid fire really fast with voidstrike that way if you need to push things away

you can also aim at your feet if you need

and remember the push on force swords is really strong, no need to use the push attack, thats single target only and generates peril

[idle aurora]

The Horde Melter

[kindred lake]

yeah i really like the push

that will be very helpful in the interim much appreciated

[granite dust]

wow - nice one

[obtuse moth]

o7 make sure youre going for heads and get transfer peril ASAP (for voidstrike only) if you dont already have it, dont fire minimum charges with void if you're going for damage because it wont penetrate multiple heads and you wont get multiple transfer peril procs

[idle aurora]

if they allow blessing unlock at some point (copium) lvl 4 nexus will make this even better

[obtuse moth]

purg is easier to get going, you really want t3 or t4 warp flurry on trauma (prioritise charge rate and area, then peril resistance [unless you only fire it once or twice at a time], followed by damage/quell speed) and i also prefer peril resist feat with 6 warp charges feat

[fresh steeple]

peril resistance is more important than charge rate on a Warp Flurry trauma

[obtuse moth]

purge prioritise burn and cloud radius

[fresh steeple]

I would only rate charge rate higher if you're using Soulblaze+Warp Nexus instead

[obtuse moth]

charge rate affects dps and peril generation, as well as utility and how much you're proccing the 10% quell on kill. and some people play in ways that dont need to continuously chain trauma or prefer high peril generation for quietitude.

[idle aurora]

Btw if you play with purg I really recommend custom flames mod, my eyeballs feel much better now

[obtuse moth]

i also don't know when they'll get flurry, and at what tier

[fresh steeple]

which is why I specifically said with Warp Flurry

[obtuse moth]

yeah but they may be rocking a t1 flurry, would you still give that advice?

[fresh steeple]

No. I'm assuming a person asking questions here knows to get T3 or T4

T1 Flurry is a bricked weapon

[kindred lake]

100%, i have t1 quell peril on weakspot hit and its still noticeable

[obtuse moth]

nah, its fixable since only 1 blessing really matters

[fresh steeple]

If you have an actually well-rolled Flurry blessing, then Charge Rate will not meaningfully affect charge speeds at all past 3 stacks

if you have T1 and can replace it, then replace it. And then the discussion of "what if they have only T1?" is meaningless

if they can't replace it, then it's a staff with a bricked blessing

If Trauma has T3/T4 Flurry, then the difference between a ~60 CR and an ~80 CR is unnoticeable once the charges get going, and there's no reason to stop charge-shotting if you're running Flurry. That's, like, the whole point

but if they're not running Flurry, I agree with you that CR is more important than WR

[obtuse moth]

people who prefer prefer to use trauma for peril or dont use it enough to run out of peril headroom still play it with flurry. could be the point for you and me but i accept that their playstyle is valid and works for them with flurry and get more value out of the charge time for their initial casts

[kindred lake]

just rolled this

i know the base stats are low but i am completely broke

[obtuse moth]

you're likely right on the diminishing returns

[fresh steeple]

base stats are fine

[kindred lake]

in dockets

[fresh steeple]

you got the burn breakpoint and good cloud. That's what matters.

[kindred lake]

i can roll perks and blessings though

nice

[obtuse moth]

great staff!

[fresh steeple]

maybe take a bit longer to quell. whomp whomp

[obtuse moth]

t4 flak and t4 nexus is amazing with good burn and cloud, and warp resist too :D

you can reroll crit to unyielding for bosses, crit chance for 5% damage boost (until you cap burning), or 25% maniac to cover ragers and specials

[kindred lake]

hard to say offhand, i will need to do some testing i think

[full bane]

Mornin Spark’Eads

[kindred lake]

is a soulblaze build worth going here? i am running a 6 stack build with warp resist per charge, no soulblaze anywhere

[full bane]

How’re y’all doing?

[kindred lake]

learning psyker

[obtuse moth]

ascendant blaze works on any build

purgatus works fine with any set of feats too for the most part

except maybe quicken

[kindred lake]

blessed truly the emperor is with me

[obtuse moth]

6 stacks do 2x more damage than 4 stacks of burning fwiw. but you can make 4 stacks useable if you stack damage/power bonuses on feats and weapon blessings

[kindred lake]

i see, so the idea would be to brain burst an elite putting 4 stacks on it and anything around, then ulting to spend warp charges and put additional stacks

along with the "spread soulblaze on death" maybe

[full bane]

Same

Also

[kindred lake]

this is true

[obtuse moth]

oh, wrack and ruin isn't a great feat XD. spread soulblaze on death can work but unless you build for it the 6 stacks is definitely more powerful. your idea with a brain burst and then an ultimate could work, but you could also just brain burst again to put the same (or almost the same amount) of stacks on without spending all your warp charges in addition to your ultimate

[kindred lake]

i am now a day 1 purgatus stan

[obtuse moth]

the 4 stack thing i mentioned just in case you pick flayer or wildfire as your 5th feat

[kindred lake]

you're referring to warp charge stacks or soulblaze stacks? because i mean warp charge stacks

as in my current 6 stack build

[obtuse moth]

its both

with your ultimate you have to spend the equivalent amount of warp charges as soul blaze stacks you put on a target with ascendant blaze

[kindred lake]

ah i see

nah i'm running battery, i've never used soulblaze before and don't find it very appealing at first glance

[obtuse moth]

its amazing for deleting hordes/rooms full of shooters

or entire packs of elites at once

mostly its nice for shooters or speeding up the horde clearing bit

[gloomy yarrow]

I run a max horde clear build

[kindred lake]

that is valuable honestly since right now if they are out of range of fire all i can do is single bb them

[obtuse moth]

kinetic barrage is still stronger overall, but ascendant blaze is very strong

[gloomy yarrow]

The horde music starts and I press f and do like 3 pergatus channels and t5 hi horde evaporates

[kindred lake]

so i guess the primary way to apply soulblaze if wrack and ruin and wildfire aren't that great

is to just use ascendant blaze

[gloomy yarrow]

Wildfire can work, I use it

[obtuse moth]

wildfire can be ok, if you stack damage bonuses because it makes it easier to upkeep your stacks and you can spend it far more often and freely. its also good for blazing spirit staff builds

[gloomy yarrow]

But to make it work you need to spec 100% into damage

[obtuse moth]

@kindred lake dont forget purgatus staff

[gloomy yarrow]

If you have a good enough pergatus have the best horde clear in the game is not completely necessary

[obtuse moth]

and it also lets you clear more horde because it won't just kill part of the horde in range, it will keep jumping

but it is definitely weaker against harder targets

if i dont have a way to stack power, i probably wont kill elite gunners and shotgunners in one go

[kindred lake]

by this you mean on weapon blessings/perks?

as opposed to in the skill tree

[obtuse moth]

both

[gloomy yarrow]

Perks blessings and talents

[obtuse moth]

thats what i think they mean by 100%

[gloomy yarrow]

All 3

[obtuse moth]

you have to go all in with everything

[kindred lake]

this is my build currently just wanted something simple

[maiden wolf]

Have y'all got any wisdom for using the trauma staff? Shoukd I be trying to push enemies closer together?

[obtuse moth]

the movement speed while quelling is a trap imo because you can quell while sliding

[kindred lake]

i figured 6 warp charges and peril resist as well as two charges per bb will keep my dmg output high

[obtuse moth]

and i would recommend against quicken

[kindred lake]

yeah i knew i should just get good lol

[gloomy yarrow]

Quicken is quite shit even after its buff compared to the others

[kindred lake]

that makes it easier then

[gloomy yarrow]

It’s not terrible just heavily outclassed

[obtuse moth]

aim it at max range to thin out the horde before they get to your front line so they dont get pushed behind your players. if they get through aim it so they get pushed out and away. you can aim it at your feet and keep hordes away indefinitely if you quell immediately after it fires then do an instant cast, rinse repeat. use it before ressing or to cover someone ressing

make sure you're being accurate with the epicenter against single targets in order to get kills

i highly recommend learning to slide toward enemies while charging it

[gloomy yarrow]

If you want a build run 121113

[obtuse moth]

you can push into enemies, retreat away, and kill shooters etc

[gloomy yarrow]

Perks unarmored/any fodder and flak

[obtuse moth]

you can also use it right through doors, and it can instantly blow up poxbursters (also through doors or around corners)

[gloomy yarrow]

Blessings are charge speed and brittleness

I’d run it with ilissi

[obtuse moth]

you dont need unarmored if you're at max stacks iirc and have decent damage

you can also run it with maniacs

depends on if you prefer the guarantee against shooters

[gloomy yarrow]

Build variety :) it’s beautiful

[obtuse moth]

i run it with deimos now since i barely use my melee weapon, but illisi is a good recommend while youre learning the ropes

[kindred lake]

is this for me or umi

[gloomy yarrow]

Umi

[obtuse moth]

honestlly it works for both of you

[kindred lake]

lol one size fits all

i switched quicken for ascendant and mind in motion for kinetic shield

[obtuse moth]

shield is really clutch for ressing

[gloomy yarrow]

111122, purgatus with flak and mutant, terrifying barrage and charge time

That’s why I run for max horde clear

[obtuse moth]

not nexus?

its 20% more burn stack application

[gloomy yarrow]

I’d use nexus if I had it

[obtuse moth]

barrage doesnt seem to suppress more than purg suppresses already afaik

[gloomy yarrow]

I can’t seem to get another staff with 80% burn like mine

[obtuse moth]

idk which of your blessings is locked tho

[gloomy yarrow]

Barrage

I like charge time

[obtuse moth]

for sure

[kindred lake]

this has all been super helpful

looking forward to getting back into it

[obtuse moth]

feel free to ping me or ask anyone else if you have more questions

[kindred lake]

amen thx bruv

[gloomy yarrow]

Don’t ping me for help I play like a goblin on damnation

[obtuse moth]

oh id suggest taking communion if you use ascendant blaze often, makes it much easier upkeep stacks

will depend on your playstyle, it matters less with purg staff

[gloomy yarrow]

Also the wrack and ruin buff made it situationally better

That situation is t5 hi stg

[kindred lake]

yeah i switched to the 111122 meat you mentioned

so communion is in there

[gloomy yarrow]

121122 is also good fyi

Also 111222

[kindred lake]

yeah some good options it seems

do like kinetic deflection since the force sword only has 3 stamina but kinetic shield has good utility

and peril resist feels good to just help unload

although at the cost of straight dmg

[latent sandal]

can anyone help me get the Malleus Monstronum penance?

[kindred lake]

i'll leave it for now an tweak it once i get a feel for it

[dusk sierra]

bug or am I getting spoiled on the final blessing?

[ornate hamlet]

Blaze Away or Sustained Fire?

[kind jay]

probably blaze, until you get pinning

[kind jay]

thats interesting. did you try it to see what you get?

[dusk sierra]

blaze away for sure between the two, but pinning is goated for sure

[dusk sierra]

nah, broke

doing a run now and will report back

[kind jay]

hadron will be pleased varlet

(you might not be tho)

[ornate hamlet]

What's the usual talent build for Autopistol Psyker?

I know that one of them is kinetic flayer.

[dusk sierra]

I do the ascendant blaze one, not sure if you mean that one

[ornate hamlet]

Okay, like.

What goes well with autopistol?

[graceful eagle]

no reason to go Ascending Blaze if you dont have pinning fire

[ornate hamlet]

What

is the stat for Pinned Fire?

[graceful eagle]

Pinning Fire buff burn damage

[edgy kite]

Nice, just lost a match because of a bug

was gonna pop from high peril, pushed F, ability was ready, didn't go off, i just insta-exploded with nothing around me

[still wave]

kaboom

[dusk sierra]

[fresh steeple]

rip those perks

[orchid shadow]

Gah, in the future I hope they give us some sort of setting for Quickplay to avoid maps or settings

[kind jay]

huh interesting you did get waht it showed

i wonder what caused that

[dusk sierra]

who knows, lol

Off to the dumpster

[kind jay]

haha i found this on brunt

oddly effective at hunting grounds

[ornate hamlet]

How good is Thunderous?

[kind jay]

its ok if no one has any anti armor

but then you have a different problem altogether

[ornate hamlet]

Okay

Which Axe is good for this "single-nuke stick"?

[ornate hamlet]

Essentially, Thrust + Limbsplitter, along with any bonuses related to killing something tough quickly.

(Obviously, you're not meant to use this too often.)

Really, though. Which kind of axe is the most suitable for it?

[kind jay]

i think antax v? not 100% on that. it has downward heavies

[dusk sierra]

I am wholly a proponent of the church of antax

-clear horde? Left click until you get carpal tunnel
-clear horde but need some space? Left left click push repeat until infinity
-big bad enemy? Press and hold heavy attack repeatedly until enemy is dead
-about to get torn in half by a rager combo? Use special to stab them with the top of your axe (???) And it will instantly stagger them out of the combo

*once you have brutal momentum you can pretty much take anything else as a secondary blessing, I usually do head taker

[crude cape]

its a lot of left clicking, same with zealot heavy sword, is there a mod or something i can do in-game so i can just hold to light attack spam? Without having to use a macro?

[dusk sierra]

IDK, I don't f with mods that actually affect gameplay just quality of life stuff

Honestly it's very relaxing to just turn your brain off and left click into a horde. Although that works much better when you're playing zealot

[cold geode]

Always first attack is the mod you're thinking of.

[west galleon]

Sick quelling emote

[nimble burrow]

pre-30 psyker emote:💥

[pine relic]

the perks are garbage though

[left hare]

Whats the meta for psyker

[spice veldt]

deimos/illisi + surge/purg/trauma/autopistol

[near wyvern]

Pretty much

[left hare]

autopistol

wth

[spice veldt]

yeah it's the bullet staff

[near wyvern]

Pinning fire + AB

[left hare]

what are deimos and illisi

I'm coming back after a while

[near wyvern]

The new force swords

[left hare]

Did they buff trauma

[near wyvern]

Deimos is a direct upgrade and Illisi is the horde clear one which deals with elites surprisingly well

[spice veldt]

peril generation on cast was lowered

[left hare]

Oh neat

[near wyvern]

Reduced peril cost. It's good now, one of the top DPS staves with warp flurry

[spice veldt]

and quelling speeds are faster now

[left hare]

So it's cc stagger spammer now?

Or dps spammer

[fresh steeple]

yes to both

[spice veldt]

it's good at killing non-elites/specials

[fresh steeple]

also rending shockwave

or you can spread soulblaze everywhere

[spice veldt]

no particular DPS, but it will one-shot all non-elites/specials with the help of perks/warp charges/warp unleashed

[fresh steeple]

one-shots gunner clusters (if your teammates aren't stupid enough to aggro them before you can get a cast off)

[near wyvern]

For this you absolutely need max charge rate max blast radius and warp flurry 4 tho, so very specific rolls

[fresh steeple]

Flurry? what?

[left hare]

void strike dead?

[fresh steeple]

Nexus

[spice veldt]

voidstrike has a 6 cleave limit on its epicentre, which makes it scale not very well

[near wyvern]

Sorry ment nexus

[spice veldt]

unless the server you're playing on is laggy

[near wyvern]

Jesus I am sloppy

[spice veldt]

in which case the voidstrike will unload its epicentre on everything near it

[left hare]

feats wise any change i'm 121112

[fresh steeple]

this depends entirely on what your build is

[near wyvern]

Warp unleashed except if using trauma with warp flurry

[spice veldt]

warp unleashed is now a general damage% buff like warp charges, so they affect all damage from all weapons and sources including non-force weapons, brainburst, and soulblaze

[left hare]

i dont rmbr this being 25%

[near wyvern]

And quicken is a actually usable now with surge for example

[left hare]

Oh wow quicken buff

[near wyvern]

Yeah it got a huge buff, it also affects all damage now so it's just a global damage buff

[left hare]

Can i hit headpop break point now

[near wyvern]

Jes check Atheneum for break points

Link in the pinned messages

It's good

[fresh steeple]

Not to be snide or anything, Moo, but a lot of things have changed about Psyker gameplay, and it's a good idea to read pinned messages and general resources before asking stuff

so that we can provide specific answers for niche stuff instead of "it's a new force sword"

[left hare]

Whats itilis rotation

[fresh steeple]

sweep spam with occasional re-up on the special to keep peril high

[near wyvern]

Ideally for Illisi you want to do heavy heavy but you gotta be consistent with your dodge game

Heavy light is your regular safe combo, light light is panic while focusing on dodges. Dodge back and special up when encountering elites.

[fresh steeple]

and Deimos works primarily with its Light 1 Heavy 2 combo. Its Heavy 2 is a poke attack that does ludicrously high damage if you aim well and can one-shot a full-health Mutant in Damnation

[near wyvern]

@left hare

Here is Deimos in full glory

https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10

[spice veldt]

if you have decently high warp res, just spam special-heavies with the illisi

[near wyvern]

You can also outrun Daemonhost with Deimos if the map allows you to move in circles

[left hare]

does deimos not have a dodge cd

[fresh steeple]

no force swords have dodge cds

obscurus didn't either

but Deimos has a wider dodge length than the others and is basically a dodge spam machine

[near wyvern]

You can see me outrunning a Daemonhost with Deimos on that video

[left hare]

Do i need a specific blessing

Or does this weapon just naturally hit the 1 shot

[pine relic]

Apparently, the bloodthirsty effect only applies to the first hit after a special kill. I remember someone telling me that it applies to all the attacks for five seconds after a special kill.

[near wyvern]

You want +maniac and unstable power on it. Then depending on your roll you need some combination of warp charges and peril (20/40/60/80), it's best to check the limits for the specific weapon on the meat grinder

[left hare]

Oh well I'll just run it as a two shot

[near wyvern]

It was like that before they released the new force weapons and fixed the blessing

[pine relic]

Okay, it's still not bad because of the high crit damage on the force swords.

[left hare]

Does deimos have a crowd control combo

[near wyvern]

Light heavy but you gotta funnel them go a narrow chokes, otherwise it's push and light spam, having Slaughter makes it really effective.

[left hare]

Isn't light heavy the big poke

[near wyvern]

Yes

[pine relic]

I kind of want to put the bloodthirsty on my Deimos. Its special ability deals much higher damage than Illisi, if I'm not mistaken.

[near wyvern]

Yeah the stunlock special is a bait, you really don't want to use it except against a lone elite when the battle is over. That light heavy combo deals more DPS and doesn't lock your actions.

[spice veldt]

the special really only deals exceptional DPS against flak because of the 200% damage

and even then, light->heavy will match that DPS the last time I tested it on a reaper

[pine relic]

full stack slaughterer + heavy crit deals 1200 damage to flak and 1000 to carapace, no wrap charges.

[frozen osprey]

Deimos is lovely i havent unequipped it since i started using unless im just bored

[digital loom]

voidstrike has a unique use

but if you're going to do blaze, trauma just works better

deimos is also the better sword

illisi is fun to use but deimos can one shot mutants and can do good damage to crushers without needing sspecial attack

deimos is a good dueling sword and its good at cleanup

it does not perform in the same category as illisi but its not lacking

especially since you get ranged options that do what illisi does but better

[spice veldt]

illisi is nice for clearing enemies and getting toughness back at the same time (if not running warp absorb)

such as when getting peeled by ranged enemies

I also prefer to use the illisi over the trauma when the stagger can be too much

[digital loom]

thats why i started running blaze trauma actually

i was thinking "there must be a way where i can use this big explosion to my advantage instead of always being a detriment"

[crude cape]

i dont need help resetting the pattern, i want to hold my click down and keep attacking tho

[spice veldt]

there's a keep swinging mod

forget the exact name but it's made by doomcookiealex or whatever their name is

[digital loom]

just block cancel

it takes just a single click

if you need a mod to do something as simple as a block cancel, I hope for your own integrity that it's because you have a limiting factor like a disability and its not just laziness or incompetence

[tight saddle]

Laziness is not making a macro to do the block cancel for you, laziness causes you to work twice as hard for no extra gain.

[sharp kraken]

Now that we got illisi and Deimos, is there any point in using the other version? It's so obscure I can't even remember it's name

[digital loom]

ah i see, so you dont view being able to play the game yourself as something to be proud of and instead call it laziness. What a twisted mindset lmao

[tight saddle]

There is nothing impressive or skillful about pressing extra buttons over and over. It's stupid easy to do, and why bother with the tediousness if there is a solution. You're taking pride over pushing buttons.

[spice veldt]

this is the one I'm thinking of https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/88

[digital loom]

if you need a machine to do it then its not your accomplishment, taking credit for your gameplay despite having a machine doing it is stolen credit.

[steep stream]

is this good or am I missing something?

[digital loom]

surge usually isnt charged

seems ok

[tight saddle]

There is no accomplishment about pushing the same buttons over and over, it's stupid easy and boring to do.

[digital loom]

if its so easy then why do you need a machine to do it for you?

[spice veldt]

not wanting carpal tunnel

[tight saddle]

Because it's so easy it's boring to do, so I'd rather not do the boring thing.

[digital loom]

do stretches

[digital loom]

if playing the game is boring then dont play

[spice veldt]

they help but having other things help

[tight saddle]

Playing the game is fun, block cancelling 100x+ per match isn't fun.

[digital loom]

then don't do it

[tight saddle]

I don't, that's why I macro it.

[digital loom]

you want the benefits of doing it but don't want to do it yourself. that is laziness

[tight saddle]

Imagine having an ego over pushing the same button over and over

[digital loom]

i think i've gotten as many laughs from you as i'm going to get so i'm ending the conversation

[spice veldt]

it's just the consequence of having the light and heavy attacks on a single button

seems fine to have a macro for spamming lights

[tight saddle]

Ditto

[pine relic]

Nice

[red wind]

spamming left click isn’t really an accomplishment

and also my hand hurts because carpal tunnel

[digital loom]

if you have carpal tunnel already then its fine

i am not against people with disabilities making the game playable for themselves

you're doing the best you can, that's all anyone can really expect

[gentle portal]

Spamming left click will give you carpal tunnel if you don't have it already

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

Personally as someone who has had cubital tunnel in both arms, I think using the full auto mod is just smart / should be the default behavior of the game and shouldn't require a mod

[digital loom]

i have been doing stretches for 15 years and no carpal tunnel yet

you are correct that prevention is important

[idle aurora]

Imo anything above 360 with good stat spread is worth it

[elfin nexus]

why obscurus though

i dont really get why people use it anymore

[idle aurora]

but yeah out of 2 deimos is better

[gentle portal]

Yeah it's not deterministic of course, some people never get it, but repetitive motion injuries are a real thing and you increase your risk of it by playing a game that requires you to spam left click -- imo the game really should include the full auto mod behavior by default for guns

Saying that someone is cheating because they have a mod that makes it so they can hold down left button instead of frantically clicking it...seems pretty farfetched imo

[elfin nexus]

yup warp resistance is the dump stat

[idle aurora]

unless it's something absurd like 20%, my man will give you 40% peril from 1 charge

[gentle portal]

Agree 100%

Unfortunately it's not, because FS makes questionable decisions, but it's NBD because there's a mod that does it for you

[idle aurora]

as far as i remember FS aren't against macros

[elfin nexus]

you dont really need stamina curios unless youre running deflector on force swords

a usual setup of 2 toughness 1 hp or 2 hp 1 toughness works well

[spice veldt]

stamina is nice if you don't run kinetic deflection

[gentle portal]

No, they don't care at all, you can do basically whatever you want with mods as long as you don't screw with other people's game experience -- like healthbars, 3rd person mod, etc are apparently all fine

[idle aurora]

I can't go back to 1st person now

3rd is so good

[elfin nexus]

[gentle portal]

Haha, I like 3rd aesthetically, but tbh for anything difficult I have to switch back to 1st... 3rd just makes it too hard to gauge distances and aim accurately

[elfin nexus]

mutant resist is a little useless imo they dont do a whole lot of damage anyways and psykers are pretty good at killing them

[digital loom]

80% or as close as possible

[elfin nexus]

sniper is a good choice if you get downed by them a lot you can tank a few extra shots

wtf lmfao

you lucky bastard

[idle aurora]

Imo psyker and zealot are best classes to play in 3rd, zealot is very cqc in nature, and staffs are more like aoe

[gentle portal]

Have you ever tried 3rd in a lights out map? That's a real trip lol

[digital loom]

mutant damage makes the biggest impact

but that is a good base

natural slaughterer 4 means you can switch deflector on and off at your convenience

[elfin nexus]

yeah executor isnt great

deflector or unstable power work well

[digital loom]

change stamina to maniac damage imo

i like deflector because its a useful tool

[idle aurora]

Yeah, in 1st u have some sort of ilumination, but it's gone in 3rd, now's that's darkness

[digital loom]

basically what you do is, with deflector up, kinda zig-zag slide to your target, and you just want to do the first light poke over and over, so you poke a man in the head then block then move onto the next man

it can be used aggressively yes

imo its the best way to use it

but it can protect you in emergencies also

its basically shield ogryn but actuaally good

[burnt maple]

deflector owns and i feel naked without it

if it was a feat i would always take it

[digital loom]

you want to stack block efficiency and if you dont use the peril deflection feat, you want to run a stamina curio

its ok to have sword without block on it

deflector gives some block efficiency

[spice veldt]

they fixed the block cost on force swords so it's not as terrible by default now

[digital loom]

yeah but you will still have to block entire gunlines from time to time

make sure to mix in dodges to make your block last longer vs ranged

they're infinite

[spice veldt]

dodge-slides are usually good enough if you can input them close enough to one another

I don't get peeled too hard whenever I'm dodge-sliding back to cover even without deflector

[idle aurora]

I stacked 3x 26% hp curios on my purg build , it almost gives you default ogryn hp, maximum burn without falling back

btw i also feel like people sleep on stacking cooldown reduction for special move, at least on purg build it feels very powerful to me

[edgy kite]

Stupidest thing I've ever read, heard of arthritis?

[burnt maple]

i've never seen a health % above 21

[split oxide]

What's a recommended Blessings for Trauma?
Is Surge good?

[lunar hollow]

generally speaking people prefer flurry/rending shockwave

iirc surge only works on lmb bolts

[split oxide]

ty

[burnt maple]

what blessings do we want on the voidstrike?

[split oxide]

When you find weapons you don't want - consider 'scavanging blessings at Hadron' first before selling it.

[digital loom]

arthritis is a disability

[split oxide]

And do Melk's Contracts every Monday.
Replace all LOW missions with the toughest you can afford time for.
(it's not difficult, it's time consuming - take max without destroying your private life)
Save Melkbux for buying T4 blessings to cannibalize

[digital loom]

totally valid to have computer assistance if disabled

[idle aurora]

21% as main and 5% as one of 3 below

[burnt maple]

i see

[digital loom]

oh my goodness, hadron really being sweet to me today

[split oxide]

You got the blessings on your bingo-card too.

[digital loom]

what iu'm currently using, arguably a better staff

but uny is only really useful against slugs bulwarks and reapers

latter 2 because of blaze

so really just slugs

[wintry plover]

Should I upgrade the flak damage or add 1% crit chance?

[edgy kite]

upgrade the flak imo, 1% crit chance will do fuck all

wait no

Replace the crit imo

Too tired, mistook that for a surge staff for some reason

[split oxide]

Recommended Blessings for VoidStrike?

[safe crystal]

Transfer peril and flurry

[olive ember]

^^

Tho voidstrike is the weakest of the staves imo

[safe crystal]

It can hit more enemies than surge, its clearly superior!

[olive ember]

It’s got 6 cleave kek

Which means surge is unironically better for mauler packs

[safe crystal]

Void has zero cleave on maulers, so i'll give you that

[split oxide]

I'm setting up diff staves for diff profile/cosmetics (which is why my questions are jumping around.)

• what's the recommended for Surge (same as purg? WarpFlurry/WarpNexus?)

[safe crystal]

Flurry nexus, yeah. Surge doesnt have any other good blessings

[split oxide]

Thx.. I've got my godroll purg/surges now.
Trauma has all the blessings: but only lvl3
The Void stave: I am still chasing Peril4

[long osprey]

Which of the force sword blessings is the best for instant max damage? Atm I use unstable power but which one I could use to get max return the quickest with unstable power?

Like combined with unstable

[obtuse moth]

slaughterer is best damage blessing bar none. bloodthirsty is probably quickest ramp

[long osprey]

It’s after a kill though right?

[obtuse moth]

yes

[north cradle]

Yeh

[long osprey]

For Deimos it’s kinda meh

As you get stuck

[cyan notch]

slaughterer

you dont need to get stuck

[spice veldt]

after any kill

not a special kill

oh wait you're referring to bloodthirsty

slaughterer is 15% power per stack, and unstable power is merely only 20% power max

and it lasts 3.5 seconds despite what the description says

[long osprey]

Guess I’ll try the wildfire + slaughterer + unstable power

So I have max stack of slaughterer as the fire goes through the horde + max peril

[spice veldt]

yup

and soulblaze kills will proc slaughterer

free money

[long osprey]

Gonna try that, just need to farm a sword, psyker got like 40k plasteel now

So it’s just a matter of time

[round jay]

Wish we could scrap all the bad stuff we get

Even for 1 plasteel

[burnt maple]

is there any point to keeping any of the guns?

do any of the guns have a build for us?

[round jay]

You have to buy so much weapons until you get one with good stat/perk/blessing

[burnt maple]

not just some meme'ing soulblaze Shredder build either

[long osprey]

I’m keeping the guns in case they revamp some of them

[obtuse moth]

unstable power is hard to proc on deimos with AB

since you'll immediately be at 50% or less

and you cant pump peril the same way you can on illisi

[long osprey]

I don’t use AB with the fire staff

I use the kinetic barrage

[burnt maple]

kinetic barrage is really good for those crusher/bulwark swarms

[obtuse moth]

ah, it might work depending on how fast you get quells from things dying

[long osprey]

Gonna test a bit anyway I got slaughterer III on one sword

With unyielding and maniac

Maybe change the unyielding for infested for pox hounds

Cause the rest I never melee them

[robust jungle]

finally lvled my psyker and trying out new builds, how do you guys feel about voidstrike and what is it good for?

[tidal scaffold]

hey i got a question, what the heck is soulblaze

[timber bolt]

is bloodthirsty + soulblaze on crit any good?

[timber bolt]

its the fire effect, it does damage in stacks

so the more stacks of soulblaze on an emneie the more damage

[tidal scaffold]

To get to the point, whats a good lvl 10 perk, Warp Unleashed sounds interesting to me

[burnt maple]

Voidstrike is just Okay

[obtuse moth]

voidstrike is super fun and good for hallways and long range, mostly good for horde clear rather than elites and specials which tend to get knocked around and not die

[obtuse moth]

warp unleashed is v good, its a MINIMUM of 10% more damage which makes it quite strong, the peril resistance can also be very strong in hi peril staff or brain burst builds

[spice veldt]

f it's hunting grounds now

[burnt maple]

good time to get Going Out with a Bang

[gloomy yarrow]

hey quicken is kinda fun now

[burnt maple]

quicken is good for builds you wanna keep stacks for

[primal plume]

Should I put crit or damage on surge staff?

[spice veldt]

crit is really only going to be for the LMB

since the RMB doesn't benefit much from it

if you want to buff the LMB, go for it

[primal plume]

crit chance isnt good for surge?

[spice veldt]

here's the damage table for surge's RMB with an 80% crit bonus staff for reference

[obtuse moth]

you think its better than barrage though? where you dont lose stacks if you ult and you get them super fast

[spice veldt]

you really only see a significant relative increase in damage for unarmoured/infested

[burnt maple]

barrage is my personal favorite

especially with how many crushers we get now

[burnt maple]

i don't really use the trauma staff but i've heard Quicken is really good for that

so you can keep your stacks high/capped

[long osprey]

Yeah I use quicken on trauma with 6 stacks

It’s crazy with the charge on kill

[long osprey]

I thought crit was a garanteed stun though? Is it true?

Like in mutie and hound

[spice veldt]

mutants and hounds get stunned by the RMB regardless of crits

[astral lark]

i totally did that on purpose at beginning of map and totally wasn’t on accident trying to use my staff

[burnt maple]

A Psyker's actions are always on purpose

[astral lark]

i like brittleness on my trauma staff tbh

i usually slam artillery on ogryn

makes for friendly clean up

[burnt maple]

what does the Surge blessing do for the Trauma staff?

[digital loom]

yeah brittleness is nice

[burnt maple]

it says it does 2 hits on crit, but i can't tell anything in the meat grinder

[digital loom]

it helps make the recon laser vets become useful

surge doesnt work with the alt fire

unfortunately

[burnt maple]

lmao

[digital loom]

right?

[burnt maple]

great design

[digital loom]

i do have several rending shockwave staves

and they are good

[burnt maple]

it's Surge 4, too

[digital loom]

but i just prefer blaze

[burnt maple]

i'm gonna turn this into a meme gun

[digital loom]

maybe one day they will fix it

[astral lark]

i should get blaze meme staves eventually

not enough mats

[burnt maple]

it seems okay at harry potter'ing some of the small elites, like gunners

but it just does pitiful damage to maniac armor

[gloomy yarrow]

Im so mad

[burnt maple]

keep the stamina i guess lol

[timber bolt]

anyone using the crit +fire blessings on the ilisi

[burnt maple]

honestly, just work on making another staff

[spice veldt]

stamina can be a detriment since it makes your relative stamina regenerate slower

[karmic delta]

make it work COPIUM

[spice veldt]

at least with carapace, you could use an uncanny strike melee to make the fire hurt crushers

[burnt maple]

i want them to add a Force Spear for us, since the staves already have the useless knockback animation for them

[soft gale]

am i crazy or did i steal the preachers top ****

[burnt maple]

that's definitely a zealot's top lol

[soft gale]

lol

[burnt maple]

did they take away everyones shirtless option, too?

[soft gale]

that may be the case

[cold geode]

yes

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/zprjje

[fathom adder]

All
Fucking
Snipers
Must
Fucking
Hang

[spice veldt]

god punishing me for being greedy for that rager kill

who are we to question his will for being sniped without warning

[burnt maple]

how good is Blazing Spirits?

putting Soulblaze doesn't really seem that helpful

[fathom adder]

Not very. DoT damage seems to be exponential (or something) and it needs to stack to like 10+ to be worthwhile

[burnt maple]

i just messed around with it in the meat grinder and it's pretty garbage

[spice veldt]

the banger being that blazing spirit on staffs has a cap of 6 iirc

[burnt maple]

even on the Reaper

lol that seems bad, too

[spice veldt]

apparently decent on a warp nexus + blazing spirit trauma

soulblaze itself being mediocre doesn't help either, since it's the application methods (purgatus, ascendant blaze) that are strong as hell

[burnt maple]

what's the purg cap?

[spice veldt]

depends on the burn stat

[burnt maple]

rather, how does Purg do vs the boss monsters?

[spice veldt]

I only know that at 76% burn, purg is able to increase the soulblaze stacks on a target up to 15

[formal ridge]

This games crafting is trolling me so hard dits making me infuriated

im really getting mad at this fucking bullshit

two 370+ autopistols with the exact same trash perks that I already dhave on my current 370 autopistol, Infested/groaners poxwalkers

fucking god damn it

[burnt maple]

you're absolutely right!

[formal ridge]

I cant believ its random

[burnt maple]

it is garbage

[formal ridge]

im borderline going to uninstall if it keeps going this way

[burnt maple]

i wish they would have gone any other way wiht it

[formal ridge]

I just dont believe its random, it cant be

its social engineering

look at this !@#$

[burnt maple]

lol that sucks

[formal ridge]

What are the odds.

[burnt maple]

at least you're not getting Terrifying Barrage on everything

[formal ridge]

I mean I have those pistols too

but these were the only blaze away

[burnt maple]

they're still useable imo just hold out for another i guess

hope you like slot machines

[crude cape]

if i have to choose bc of rng
is dmg resistance on bombers or hounds better?
hounds so much more dangerous/common but...i feel like they already do very little dmg

[dusk sierra]

👀 finally almost there, swap ranged for crit and then nexus as second blessing?

[burnt maple]

bombers imo, when they catch you, they do a whole lot more damage because they wipe your toughness, and they're pretty damn good with their aim

with the dogs, you need to be near your team mates anyway, so even if you get got, it shouldn't be too much trouble, and dog damage is mitigated by toughness

if the dogs do a lot of damage, and your team mates have the opportunity to get you, then your team mates are dumb

[ornate hamlet]

Unless they fixed it, bomber resist only protects against the kick

Hounds barely do damage

Sniper is the most preferred because of how damaging they are, and gunner is a personal favorite because I got caught twice by gunners coming from a floor above me and it sucked

[cyan notch]

yea

[karmic delta]

Sniper resist saves lives! It will at least let you survive 1 more Sniper hit. Assuming you have full health

[spice veldt]

ult not staggering ended a run since I expected it to stagger a crusher midswing right in front of me but I guess the crusher simply said no

[ornate hamlet]

Strongest imperial magic user vs. weakest chaos paladin

"The game is in my imagination, right? My imagination says no"

[uneven bobcat]

what perk should I reroll ?

[cyan notch]

damn

both kinda suck

[uneven bobcat]

I know

[cyan notch]

i guess specialist

since ur not really flaming them

[uneven bobcat]

thx but yeah both perks sux

[untold meteor]

I'm assuming drop specialist for.... maniac?

[ornate hamlet]

I'd take flak

You already have brain burst and maybe a gun to deal with maniacs, and kinetic barrage to buff the brain burst after you CC the maniac

[spice veldt]

mutants are also maniac

they also take 3x melee damage

[cyan notch]

yea id say flak

[short vessel]

Is meele weakspot damage worth it?