ok brunt i see you got some shit today.
#psyker-class
supple skiff
good luck
spice veldt
god bless
supple skiff
inb4 terrifying barrage
kind jay
time to lmb trauma main
spice veldt
the secondary isn't real
spice veldt
I'd say +unarmoured depending on how good you are at maintaining warp charges and/or if you run warp unleashed
for the sole purpose of one-shotting Dreg Bruisers (450 hp)
for maniacs, there's really only dreg ragers, and the other maniacs I would just throw in a quick trauma blast under their feet to knock them down rather than for any damage
kind jay
ill take it
spice veldt
woohoo
spice veldt
correct; people who use other staffs aren't real
full bane
Mornin Spark’Eads
ornate abyss
this one's good right?
full bane
Hp and toughness regen is always good
formal ridge
I brought a soublaze illisi to a match, my team just blew everything up before dots could do anything
put it back on shelf...
full bane
Soulblaze ob illisi isn’t that great tbh
Slaughter and unstable power are what I use on mine
proud hinge
what should i roll sprint efficiency to?
long wharf
Slaughterer+Bloodthirsty Illisi is highly effective against mixed hordes
ornate abyss
what should i roll sprint efficiency to?
damage vs flak
proud hinge
ty
old field
with dueling sword rampage is viable ?
meager plinth
Using the bash is more reliable for triggering the buff
spice veldt
is that the seer?
west galleon
empty mesa
Anyone know where the sett8ng is to turn off psycher echo/peril noise
meager plinth
there's a mod for that
north cradle
I don't think a conversation between two identical voice types and genders is possible
spice veldt
Anyone know where the sett8ng is to turn off psycher echo/peril noise
It's in Interface listed as 'Peril FX' with a slider next to it
I don't recommend turning it completely off
empty mesa
Bruh why is it in interface
spice veldt
I have mines set to 32%
no idea
you also can't control the visuals and sound individually
which is quite meh
undone badge
is obscurus fs still meh?
kind jay
I don't think a conversation between two identical voice types and genders is po...
yeah probably not. this was specifically a female loner + male loner
its like 6-7 line spat
kinda funny
granite mauve
i love how they add new lines in between patches
there's one where related to the pox hound condition where the ogryn states that hounds are boring
a little bit too much on the nose
ionic sorrel
Same, helps me know when to book it back.
limpid cypress
Delicious platsteel
cyan notch
what did your vets do
in the meantime
LOL
surprised they didnt get bored run in with melee and aggro the dh and die to shooters
steep shuttle
It is funny how psykers and vets hate each other
kind jay
everyone hates psykers
limpid cypress
Not the Slavic Ogryn
kind jay
I'm like 90% sure people blow up barrels on me strictly cause fuck that psyker in particular
limpid cypress
Are you using the male loner voice?
near crow
Does Surge work on the Voidstrike's charged shot, or only on its primary fire?
limpid cypress
I also use that voice lol
olive ember
Does Surge work on the Voidstrike's charged shot, or only on its primary fire?
works on rmb
isn't good mind you
but it works
near crow
kind jay
Does Surge work on the Voidstrike's charged shot, or only on its primary fire?
yes but the second shot is a regular one
near crow
Aww... I was trying to get some staffs for blessing farming and RNJesus gave me a 380. Sadly, I think Hadron's bricked it if that's the case
olive ember
ehhh
near crow
Since this is what it'd be replacing
olive ember
its semi usable if you replace surge with blazing spirit
but
its kinda meh
the meta is warp flurry + transfer peril
so
tho technically the meta doesnt the voidstrike staff entirely iirc, its the weakest staff of the 4
well depends on how meta slave you want to be
near crow
I could put Warp Flurry on it instead of Surge, but I already have a Blazing+Flurry staff with strong perks.
olive ember
I mean the problem with blazing spirit and surge is that you have to fish for crits
so typically you run blazing spirit/surge + warp nexus
near crow
I think it's a toss-up between Seer and Savant as to who's the most well adjusted Psyker
Savant's got a bit more variety now, but some of their lines are definitely lacking. I do still kind of appreciate their unbroken optimism despite all the awful shit they've been through
Seer is generally pleasant, and I'd have picked them if my usual group didn't already have like two
Loner is just lucky to be alive
Yeah
cyan notch
seer is a lunatic and has shrieking heavy attack sounds loner has a whiny voice and is generally just bitching all the time so savant is the most normal person
near crow
Ye
Loner says some extremely heretical shit quite frequently and it's honestly nothing short of an Emperor-divined miracle that they're still alive given that our Inquisitorial handlers are always listening in to everything we're saying in-mission.
Psyker is still probably my least favorite class to play
olive ember
Seer is not well adjusted
near crow
He's fun, but all of his staffs feel lacking in one way or another and gunpsyker is just playing discount Veteran
olive ember
they literally think everyone is just a figment of their imagination in their dream
near crow
By Psyker standards that's practically a clean bill of mental health
olive ember
and they have a line about how their therapist or some shit said they were crazy so they "disappeared" him
his "beloved" might even be a fucking daemon pretending to be the emperor
so yeah
near crow
It could also be an actual fragment of the emperor
olive ember
if you were the inquisition would you take the chance
near crow
If I was the inquisition I would've Exterminatus'd Atoma already
Daemonhosts and powerful lesser daemons are running rampant in the middle hive
The planet is lost
karmic copper
damn dude give me a effing scripture damnation map. been on for an hour, failed 2 dog dual grim runs, stil no scriptures. ran out of time to play for the week on a thursday without my weeklies done. damn me
near crow
Maybe if we had more forces than one Rogue Trader's frigate the planet would be worth the effort, but Grendel's not even contacted Space Marines about the possibility of their deployment
olive ember
damn dude give me a effing scripture damnation map. been on for an hour, failed ...
oof dual grim runs
thats like asking to fail if you are pugging
these teams can't even handle no grim runs
near crow
Grims still offer no benefit for the extreme risk they cause lmao
I re-roll every grim/scrip weekly, it's just not worth the effort
kind jay
i love loners lines. im actually starting to think the va got more lines than anyone else
near crow
Loner may have
meager plinth
While deadly space marines wouldn't be ideal for crowd control in the hive
near crow
It's pretty obvious that the game was originally intended to have Vermintide-style characters, and the voices intended for them got a lot more VA work done than some of the others
near crow
While deadly space marines wouldn't be ideal for crowd control in the hive
We're a little beyond crowd control I think
kind jay
and i think the long speech about foreshortened life was actually a joke they kept, cause female loner only says the first sentence of that
and it sounds like a sound booth joke
meager plinth
I wouldn't be opposed for more unique lines like that
olive ember
Look I want my 16 player boss raids vs a chaos space marine
near crow
I do not like the idea of fighting a space marine
daemonhost but with gun sounds like pain
meager plinth
Which one has the voice like "BULKWARK (Don't argue, it is)"?
kind jay
space marine? just surge it ez clap
near crow
Monstrosities can't be surged ayylmao
near crow
Surge can't even stagger muties anymore why even live
olive ember
I mean it can
near crow
I rolled one up last week to give it a try since I haven't touched it since I unlocked it back when I was leveling Psyker and it can't even with a full charge, at least not on damnation.
full bane
Favorite voice for each class go
near crow
Generally I'll take a Cadian vet over an Agitator zealot
full bane
Yeah agitator zealot is such an asshole
near crow
Brawler Ogryn, Fanatic Zealot, Seer Psyker, and... honestly I'm torn between Professional and Loose Cannon Veteran.
crude cape
Did you find someone last night to help? I need it as well, would be willing to help each other (I get off work in 3-4 hours, so later tonight tho)
near crow
Loose Cannon is funny, but they reduced a lot of Professional's more annoying lines.
full bane
Bodyguard Ogryn, Fem Fanatic Zealot, Fem Savant Psyker and Male Loose Cannon Vet
near crow
Both male and female Fanatic Zealot go hard
near crow
They're both Scottish
full bane
Female fanatic sounds a bit more welsh than Scottish but that might just be me
long wharf
Since this is what it'd be replacing
sustained fire is trash, replace it with transfer peril
limpid cypress
Male loner is just always funny to me. He’s just so aggressively German, and his sarcasm is also great
near crow
sustained fire is trash, replace it with transfer peril
Ye, like I said I'm blessing farming at the moment. Definitely going to replace Sustained Fire, I just don't have anything to replace it with yet.
full bane
Male loner is just always funny to me. He’s just so aggressively German, and his...
Perfect example
near crow
lmao
near crow
Psyker is probably the only one of my characters I wish I could change the voice on sometimes
full bane
Where as Agitator is a dick and has a 1 in charisma
near crow
I like male Savant, but his voicelines are so.... boring.
He doesn't have anything memorable in a good way
blissful mural
loner is also genreally based, they know seemingly almost as much as the average player
about the emprerium i mean
full bane
I like female savant, I enjoy her French accent
limpid cypress
I like male Savant, but his voicelines are so.... boring.
I do like his voice line where they’re talking about the servitors and the savant goes, “I think I’m running out of blind eyes to turn.”
near crow
I enjoy the accent, but I just wish they had better lines to read
near crow
I do like his voice line where they’re talking about the servitors and the savan...
I've never heard this one
full bane
Judge is the most tolerant of the zealot voices as well as the most chill
limpid cypress
It’s just a conversation voice line so it doesn’t come up super often
wooden sentinel
Did you find someone last night to help? I need it as well, would be willing to ...
Yeah, we did back then. I can only play with voicechat during the day, so eventing are unfortunately a no-go for me. Best of luck!
near crow
Judge is fun but he doesn't scream "BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE!" so he's immediately less cool than fanatic.
limpid cypress
As for the loner, I’ve heard his “The Imperium is shrouded with secrecy and frugal with answers” voice line way too many times in a row lol
full bane
Bully Ogryn and Male Judge, very wholesome
full bane
As for the loner, I’ve heard his “The Imperium is shrouded with secrecy and frug...
Also if he was caught saying Carrion Emperor on the Mourningstar he’d be shot on the spot
limpid cypress
Bully Ogryn and Male Judge, very wholesome
I heard that one yesterday
near crow
Judge does legitimately think the Imperial Creed is good for humanity
limpid cypress
The loner would already be shot on sight with the shit he’s said lol
near crow
Like I said, it really is an Emperor-divined miracle that he's not dead yet
limpid cypress
So would the professional for his “You’ll fall right at the end, just like Cadia” voice line
olive ember
I like male Savant, but his voicelines are so.... boring.
SOMEONE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN THE LEX ATOMA
near crow
We already know the real acolytes listen in on our comms
full bane
The loner would already be shot on sight with the shit he’s said lol
My head canon is that he turns off his comm link before he says that type of shit
near crow
So would the professional for his “You’ll fall right at the end, just like Cadia...
To be fair, with how annoying the Cadian vet is to literally everyone he probably gets away with that one.
limpid cypress
The Cutthroat would absolutely just shoot him then and there
wooden sentinel
He doesn't have anything memorable in a good way
I like how he's a local of Atoma and he constantly gives the party tourist fun facts
near crow
My head canon is that he turns off his comm link before he says that type of shi...
I somehow doubt the commlink we know about is the only listening device on us, given that we're prisoners for most of the game
near crow
I like how he's a local of Atoma and he constantly gives the party tourist fun f...
That's true. I'd forgotten about those lines.
full bane
I somehow doubt the commlink we know about is the only listening device on us, g...
Like I said it’s just a head canon
near crow
Hadron knows all
And also the preachers would probably report him immediately after the mission lmao
wooden sentinel
He is kinda boring, but he and the Professional are kind of important when it comes to providing a "baseline" the more colourful party members contrast with. You can't have a cast consisting solely of comic reliefs
full bane
Probably my favorite Judge line
full bane
He is kinda boring, but he and the Professional are kind of important when it co...
Unless it’s an all Ogryn squad
wooden sentinel
3 Ogryns are hilarious, the solo human always sounds so lost in their conversations
ionic sorrel
I like my complaining witch lady.
near crow
I don't think any of the Ogryn are really the "baseline"
full bane
Full Ogryn squad shares 1 brain cell between the four of them
near crow
I'm a little sad that we didn't get a properly non-Bone 'Ead Ogryn voice
I know Brawler actually has the upgrade, and Bodyguard is supposedly some kind of "Alpha Strain" (maybe something to do with the Psychic Awakening) that's smarter than normal, but Bully is just... Bully.
near crow
Ye
I wish Bully's preview was more accurate to his actual in-game lines
He comes off as a lot more aggressive and dickish than he actually is
full bane
It’s a front, he’s secretly a big softie
blissful mural
I wish Bully's preview was more accurate to his actual in-game lines
thats a problem with a lot of the personalities
near crow
I went with Brawler because he sounded the most properly Ogryn of the bunch
I'm glad they seriously reduced his lines about eating enemies and seem to have completely removed the one about eating Ratlings.
olive ember
mfw when cutthroat preview makes em sounds like an elite war vet, and then they come off as a ptsd crybaby
full bane
I picked bodyguards because he has a background in the Imperial Guard and I’m a guard fanboy, plus I like his vaguely Russian accent
lunar hollow
savant/cutthroat on their way to talk about the most boring shit ever
limpid cypress
Bodyguard is the only Ogryn that’s innately nicer to Psykers
olive ember
how dare you lump savant with cutthroat
blissful mural
I'm glad they seriously reduced his lines about eating enemies and seem to have ...
ahh i like those lines, theyre funny
limpid cypress
Calling them his friend and all that
lunar hollow
how dare you lump savant with cutthroat
if i have to hear about the lex atoma or some stupid fucking theatre or the enforces again
i swear to god
im gonna murder someone
near crow
I picked bodyguards because he has a background in the Imperial Guard and I’m a ...
Brawler is as well, Ogryn only get the BONE implant when they're promoted to lead other Ogryn in the Guard.
limpid cypress
I'm glad they seriously reduced his lines about eating enemies and seem to have ...
“Remember, don’t eat Muties!”
olive ember
if i have to hear about the lex atoma or some stupid fucking theatre or the enfo...
GOOD ENFORCERS CARE ABOUT THE LIVES THEY PROTECT
full bane
Bodyguard is the only Ogryn that’s innately nicer to Psykers
He can get angry at times
olive ember
typical zealot, enforcers have to deal with the reality of people
limpid cypress
He can get angry at times
I mean, Loner definitely made himself difficult to like there lol
near crow
ahh i like those lines, theyre funny
Some of them are, but they played too often. And the one about Ratlings was just... I can buy Ogryn thinking about eating enemies, since the Imperium dehumanizes them and Ogryn are simple enough to think "Heretic is made of meat. Heretic isn't a person. Eating a heretic isn't cannibalism.", but the Ratling one... didn't come off as a joke.
blissful mural
Some of them are, but they played too often. And the one about Ratlings was just...
i think cannibalism might be too big of a concept for ogryn
i think its just "meat is meat"
limpid cypress
My favorite Brawler voice line is “Got metal chip in ‘ead, but … am okay.”
near crow
i think cannibalism might be too big of a concept for ogryn
No, Ogryn are extremely competent in matters of survival since they come from high gravity, usually frozen, deathworlds. And eating people is bad for survival due to all the diseases and whatnot. They might not be smart enough to say the word, but they definitely understand the concept.
full bane
My favorite brawler line is “Emprah says ignorance is strength, I’m very strong”
Or something like that
near crow
My favorite brawler line is the train joke he makes on Chasm Terminus.
"We're right on track! I make train joke, is funny!" or something along those lines.
blissful mural
he' or maybe the bodyguard has got a similiar one "i forget tech priest joke... too bad-is funny"
kind jay
spice veldt
hmm is anyone on NA west getting a bunch of 3001 errors
kind jay
I'm in na east and was getting some earlier
jaunty moth
RIP
spice veldt
you're going to barrage over all the enemies so hard
jaunty moth
bruh mark this nsfw
i dont even think crafting it more can save it lmao
shy prairie
hidden crystal
Part of the reason I ended up playing a Psyker was that I started levelling a Veteran, but got completely sick of whichever voice I'd picked, and figured that if I had to start levelling from scratch again I might as well try a different class.
Might have been "Loose Cannon"? I can't remember for certain.
magic burrow
I wish there was an ability to change the voice of your character. It's kind of dumb the way they restrict that. No one is going to level two of the same class just to have a different voice.
long wharf
whoever made that needs to be flogged immediately
flogged and handed to the Commissar for immediate execution
brittle loom
As rapid as possible
hidden crystal
I wish there was an ability to change the voice of your character. It's kind of ...
There's not a good reason I can think of to restrict renaming or changing height as well.
Height does somewhat affect gameplay, but it's not obvious how until after original creation.
north cradle
I like Loose Cannon more than the other two personally. Feels like she has more character than a bookworm NCO and a Cadian salt dog
My only regret is choosing Bodyguard Ogryn over Brawler Ogryn. I don't really feel like there are any bad Zealot voices either.
hidden crystal
I like Loose Cannon more than the other two personally. Feels like she has more ...
It grated on me after a while; it didn't help that at least initially I was playing small private matches with friends in order to actually get used to the mechanics and check settings without mucking strangers around online, which meant that the bots often had the same voice.
north cradle
It doesn't help that they're always Veterans too
spice veldt
from reading a dev's comments in the modding server, the inability to change height isn't completely intentional and seems to be due to some technical limitations that is fairly low on the priority list to be implemented
digital loom
loose cannon vet is someone who is innately talented and lucky but genuinely doesn't give a fuck
and whatever fucks they did give at the start, they certainly dont give now
totally disillusioned
the way they react to ambushes and such i suspect they're passively suicidal as well
in other words, he's really seen some shit
i just find it funny that loose cannon and professional wound up in the same place
all that work just to wind up in jail next to an asshole who has never taken the work seriously
and cadian vet is j ust 40k batman
spice veldt
new pet peeve of mines: psykers stunning dogs with BB (or anyone shooting them really) when they're about to charge into my melee swing and fucking with their aggro
twilit flicker
I've done this to a few people it's fucking hilarious every time.
spice veldt
edging me
twilit flicker
Hahaha nope!
jaunty moth
keep? or sack for pinning fire 4?
spice veldt
if you have a better autopistol to slap it on, sure
if not, then that's good enough
shame about the stopping power stat
jaunty moth
nah mine all suck im thinking of buying this from melk
vestal rose
id buy it for pinning
jaunty moth
i have this one too but yea lol
vestal rose
move it to a better one later
totally usable
vestal rose
I have maniac and unarmoured, but idk about unarmoured, ive not actuallu checked breakpoints.
Maniac is great for deleting mutants from the game, which is why i run it.
north cradle
all that work just to wind up in jail next to an asshole who has never taken the...
Made this in 25 seconds
meager plinth
Nah that would be the Ogryn that has a voice line where they volunteer to a suicide mission
short vessel
Would this work for gunpsyker?
echo fulcrum
hi what is the highest amount of life you can have for this class and what bonuses should you have
lethal helm
am very happy with this. I have been blessed
river sand
but its a surge staff ?
hollow current
check the armory exchange via browser
good weapon worth picking up appears
load the game up, select the character
error 3001
great game fatshark.
river sand
...
river sand
im so sick of getting paired with surge psykers ....
olive ember
SMH you just haven’t seen a good one
river sand
if i wanna see a good one i grab it myself. and then i really miss trauma or even void
crude cape
im so sick of getting paired with surge psykers ....
really? i like it im usually rocking purg so its a good match if we gonna have 2 psykers
river sand
purg and surge are the weakest option psykers has, gunpsyker included
cursive crest
When playing vet or zealot, I prefer being with a surge psyker than others staffs
hollow current
purge has pretty good cc.
spice veldt
purg is quite good for the infinite cleave
hollow current
voidstrike is fun, just not that great...
lethal helm
I didnt mean to start an argument, I just wanted to show off my cool staff :c
river sand
purg has mediocre cc on poxers, everything else you need to shoot for like 2 seconds before cc kicks in. void and trauma out dps purg by a lot. trauma cc is way stronger than surge but it has damage
spice veldt
you've fallen into my trap card
crude cape
was my most used staff for a long time, like the first month or so of the game
spice veldt
the point of purg is that it can reach human-sized elites inside hordes
crude cape
then i took a break, came back and been using surge/purg/trauma most since
spice veldt
it's good at hordeclear, but that's not what makes purg particularly good
it's not going to get stopped by a single scab rager like voidstrike does
it sucks at ranged encounters but many sections allow you to monkey into ranged groups with melee
though I've been getting games with ridiculously dense ranged groups that are taking me from 100 to 0 in half a second
crude cape
purg has mediocre cc on poxers, everything else you need to shoot for like 2 sec...
sounds like someone without a well rolled purg staff, and not properly using the right feat build/min maxing ascendant blaze restacking. it melts everything basically and staggers them
river sand
and when you bring your trauma you just kill em
spice veldt
trauma is not going to kill anything quickly
cursive crest
Trauma is boring for teammates, you send mobs everywhere with it, it becomes harders then to clear that mess. At least surge is a clean CC
spice veldt
similarly, neither will purg kill things quickly
hollow current
trauma is not going to kill anything quickly
it'll stumble everything until it does though 😉
south canopy
Purg staff is king
shadow wigeon
I didnt mean to start an argument, I just wanted to show off my cool staff :c
It's a very fun staff, my favourite. Good stuff man.
I find Focused isn't as critical on it because you can usually make room for yourself. Flurry is also fun and feels good, although it has a subtle impact on performance
olive ember
I mean trauma depends on how you use it, I typically blast at the front of the hoard not the back so they don’t fly everywhere and I also time it between swings if I can
Like let the vet do his two charges of psword and then blast
river sand
well trauma oneshots every non elite while having the fastest cast rate and a pretty big aoe. and all non ogryn elites are dead faster than purg can
spice veldt
I also rarely ever blast pure hordes with trauma if I can help it
south canopy
I hold right click and point at a door, easily killing 50 enemies in the span of 3 seconds. The flames then spread to their friends.
spice veldt
well trauma oneshots every non elite while having the fastest cast rate and a pr...
it's going to kill human-sized elites about as fast as purg will
with purg spraying in a conal area
river sand
I hold right click and point at a door, easily killing 50 enemies in the span of...
spreading flames disqualify you arelady
south canopy
Yeah, Wildfire is fun.
lunar hollow
so close to being what i want
south canopy
Who cares about 6 stacks when your screen is blue
crude cape
especially when it increases the soulblaze stacks put on the entire horde with your ult
olive ember
Wildfire is bugged as shit
shadow wigeon
Wildfire is bugged as shit
bruh
It's fine, with Slaughterer
4 stacks + power = chains for ages
olive ember
It won’t spread to anyone with 4 stacks or more
It won’t spread if the guy who dies only had 1 stack of soulblaze
shadow wigeon
It won’t spread to anyone with 4 stacks or more
You dont need more than 4 stacks
river sand
if wildfire was nearly working as intended it maybe not the worst talent in the row but right now you could deselect a the talent as well and you wont notice any difference
shadow wigeon
4 stacks eats hordes and does loads of damage to elites
river sand
yeah on malice and below ...
shadow wigeon
If it was more than 4 stacks it would be absurd
drowsy slate
I only speak about damnation
south canopy
Damnation is easy peasy
When are they releasing Damnation+1
I use wildfire in Damnation all the time
It's okay 👍
shadow wigeon
Yeah, it's totally fine on damn
hollow current
when they release red weapons
shadow wigeon
There has been in a chance in the last patch though which makes it a bit harder to abuse
drowsy slate
when they release red weapons
Maybe end of the month maybe never
shadow wigeon
Slaughter stacks now disappear when you switch off your sword
You used to be able to switch, add more fire, and switch back
spice veldt
slaughterer stacks don't drop for me
hollow current
i'd be surprised if it's this year lol
spice veldt
the icon disappears when I Swap off but it comes back when I swap back
shadow wigeon
the icon disappears when I Swap off but it comes back when I swap back
Hmmmmm i wondered if it was cosmetic
drowsy slate
Slaughter stacks now disappear when you switch off your sword
Your slaughterer stacks increase soulblaze damage as long as you have your sword out
hollow current
I think that's what he means. iirc they used to proc the entire time?
shadow wigeon
I must test
hollow current
Now it's when you have the sword out.
spice veldt
yeah they fixed blessings persisting across different weapons a while ago
drowsy slate
You just smite with soulblaze AoE use ult chabge to sword gg wp
olive ember
Eh
drowsy slate
Soulblaze kills also proc slaughterer when you have your sword put
olive ember
I can test it but last I checked 4 stacks ain’t enough to kill shooters unless you have pinning fire or some shit
It depends on how fast you can get slaughterer procs
shadow wigeon
I can test it but last I checked 4 stacks ain’t enough to kill shooters unless y...
In a horde you get them almost instantly from the soul blaze kills
olive ember
Yes but why are you using your AB on a horde
shadow wigeon
Yes but why are you using your AB on a horde
Not AB... staff.
olive ember
:/
shadow wigeon
yeah they fixed blessings persisting across different weapons a while ago
Oh yeah, it does persist now. Hmm I liked seeing the icon so I knew how hard to push adding more fire.
olive ember
Idk wildfire just ain’t that good imo
Finicky to use with slaughterer
Bugged af
Hidden 4 stack cap
shadow wigeon
Man it's easy to use and the other traits int aht tree barely matter
You can just mess around with it if you like, and it's perfectly strong on damnation, and fun and goofy
fierce sinew
it's undertuned to the point of irrelevance, the main use is memeing or advertising to players that check builds in pregame that you're brain damaged (or memeing)
shadow wigeon
It's slightly suboptimal to battery, but with damnation being what it is right now, it doesnt matter.
fierce sinew
which hey, fair play
nimble burrow
its to show everyone how much you like to fart (on cooldown)
shadow wigeon
it's undertuned to the point of irrelevance, the main use is memeing or advertis...
With the current challenge level of damnation, this is a terrible attitude. You can play almost any build you like, you're haggling over a few % in each direction.
nimble burrow
the internet is all for wasting their time arguing over something menial or pointless
you're right
fierce sinew
With the current challenge level of damnation, this is a terrible attitude. You ...
you can meme if you want
the meme police won't be called, you won't go to jail
it'll be okay
shadow wigeon
you can meme if you want
You said it's undertuned to irrelevence, what's the differential between Battery or Flayer? What's this huge power gap it has?
shadow wigeon
the meme police won't be called, you won't go to jail
Nah bro you're just creating a toxic place for people to experiment, and stating things wont work that are fine.
fierce sinew
it is, the game is just so easy you can play with anything and as long as people aren't throwing it's fine
...you are still memeing though
""""toxic"""" lmao
shadow wigeon
""""toxic"""" lmao
yep
fierce sinew
I'm enormous chilling my man, anyone who cares that much about what anonymous internet nobodies (which is what we are here, don't get it twisted) can euthanize himself
shadow wigeon
Don't reeee over non-meta builds then, if they dont matter, that's all
New players here all the time
fierce sinew
😉
shadow wigeon
I'm enormous chilling my man, anyone who cares that much about what anonymous in...
Every community is what you make of it.
hidden crystal
in other words, he's really seen some shit
Ah, this was the female loose cannon - the rather vocal... I think it might be supposed to be Irish?
fierce sinew
Every community is what you make of it.
yeah, so stop making your panties so twisted my guy, you'll have a nicer time
lethal helm
It's a very fun staff, my favourite. Good stuff man.
I find Focused isn't as cri...
thanks. I like focused because there was a couple times Ive died mid channel and that stops it. I dont really charge it much. theres something for everyone though :)
olive ember
Tbh all the staff blessings on surge are meh besides warp nexus I guess
Even warp nexus is ehhhh
formal ridge
I also rarely ever blast pure hordes with trauma if I can help it
thats like half the fun for me
formal ridge
Ah, this was the female loose cannon - the rather vocal... I think it might be s...
there is no irish accent in the game
spice veldt
i'm a bit too parnaoid to use my trauma sometimes in case I accidentally trap teammates
since enemies will stagger through you if they can and get stuck inside of you
I wouldn't wish that fate upon anyone
since the outer area is rather large for better or for worse
though I've been straight up dying when I keep on diving ranged enemies so I've been inclined to use it more
hidden crystal
there is no irish accent in the game
I've heard others describe it as Irish, but to be fair, a lot of the accents are... inexact.
hidden crystal
Both Fanatic voices are trying to be some strain of Scottish.
olive ember
i'm a bit too parnaoid to use my trauma sometimes in case I accidentally trap te...
That’s what we call a
formal ridge
Kills everything besides crushers
it only does like 50% of health to a scab rager
hidden crystal
I have to say the most distracting combination I've come across so far is the German psyker voice (male loner?) matched up with some African ethnicity; it was not a face I was particularly anticipating sounding like the TF2 Medic.
formal ridge
I think one of the zealots are Irish
scottish
spice veldt
i often use 1% of my brain when playing trauma and my sleep has been too doodoo to pay attention to where my teammates are, so I've been pretty conservative with using my staff
using trauma is also boring
I like me melee
formal ridge
Both Fanatic voices are trying to be some strain of Scottish.
the fanatic is literally a scottish woman lol, the voice actress
thats why the fanatic is so good, its legit
olive ember
i often use 1% of my brain when playing trauma and my sleep has been too doodoo ...
Why not play a psword vet with uh….
Idk plasma gun?
spice veldt
psyker feels more comfy with the better stamina
and being able to just be out of position without worry
and not having to manage dodges
one of the reasons why I mained the obscurus pre-patch
hidden crystal
the fanatic is literally a scottish woman lol, the voice actress
Perhaps - but it's... exaggerated, at least in a writing sense. I've got two Scots in my Dark Heresy group (we play over Discord), and they don't tend to sprinkle their sentences with "Ye" and "Yon".
It's all a bit "Talk like a pirate day".
crude cape
not the best still, but better than the one i was asking about yesterday. Think this is useable? (still searching for higher level slaughterer, will be crafted on it as soon as I have it)
Should I reroll the 20% flak dmg or crit chance? I know +25% flak is one of the perks I want...
spice veldt
+20% flak is prob good nuff
I'd reroll crit chance into +maniac
should let you reliably one-shot scab ragers with the special
and chunk maulers quite a bit
faint perch
Is there some explanation somewhere why the alternative action for brain burst cancels if you "shoot" it too early?
formal ridge
Perhaps - but it's... exaggerated, at least in a writing sense. I've got two Sco...
it's not perhaps it's a fact
crude cape
cool, im gonna replace it with an illy when i get the chance but for now using it
formal ridge
It's all a bit "Talk like a pirate day".
the syntax isnt modern english but her accent is authentic scottish
faint perch
Is there some explanation somewhere why the alternative action for brain burst c...
Like, why is it even possible to try and fire it if it just cancels, but you have still generated peril. Rather annoying at times
crude cape
ohhh what about this...sorry dumping a few days of resources at once...
should i break this down for the slaughterer 3 and keep going or is this good? If I upgrade to legendary I can reroll the block efficiency and craft on deflector or uncanny strike or something....
tropic vigil
not the best still, but better than the one i was asking about yesterday. Think ...
personally i wouldnt bother with anything below 70% dmg
fathom adder
personally i wouldnt bother with anything below 70% dmg
I personally wouldn't bother with the obscurus. Just sit on any good ones, don't invest, and hope it gets buffed
crude cape
personally i wouldnt bother with anything below 70% dmg
tbh im probably gonna eat it, its not an illy/deimos anyway. i shouldnt of asked im doing a big crafting session lol. What about the illy i just made at purple?
tropic vigil
obscurus needs some kind of buff or change, theres no reason to not use the illisi instead.
crude cape
or deimos ya
tropic vigil
deimos you can justify but obscurus just kind of ass
crude cape
im a deimos simp but trying to make a good illy
formal ridge
@spice veldt would you ever use a trauma with unyielding/carapiece perks
tropic vigil
as far as your illisi sword its not bad to hold onto but i wouldnt invest in it, 362 isnt awful but finesse could be a bit better
spice veldt
I wouldn't mind them if they were on my trauma
as long as I have +unarmoured for dreg bruisers
formal ridge
I guess Imeant both
formal ridge
maybe on a soulblaze version? idk
spice veldt
only thing you're losing out on is one-shotting dreg bruisers reliably without warp charges/warp unleashed without a good damage stat
formal ridge
that way if you are hitting the big guys with the blasts you at least are doing something to the outside at the same time
cause honestly 4 blasts is a long time to kill a crusher compared to a bolter
north solstice
eh?
formal ridge
Im racing my non-psyker teammates for kills a bunch of the time (just cause they are pushing/killing faster)
north solstice
need to reroll perks but yknow
spice veldt
BB usually bette rthan my teammates if no one has bolter/plasma or aren't a zealot flamer
hidden crystal
it's not perhaps it's a fact
You're taking my phrasing rather too literally, both here and with what I said earlier.
spice veldt
I don't really use trauma on crushers unless there's 2-3+ stacked on top of each other
fresh steeple
I'm torn
I just picked this up, which is I think my first true 380 Trauma (have a few that float near it)
but Charge Rate is, to me, the worst dump stat. But even at that charge rate it doesn't seem to affect attacks too much except the first, which I can detonate early if I wish
and it's double t4. This is the current one I'm using
appears to get to "max peril's worth of casts" approximately 1.5 seconds faster over the course of a peril bar
but its dump stat is the second-worst dump stat of blast radius
I thus solicit opinions. Trade off bigger blast radius and better rending for slightly slower initial casts (and through casts, though Flurry blurs the lines there), or keep faster casts in exchange for less radius?
the 80% one also has the benefit of being able to get off 8 charges before max peril with fewer than 6 warp charges, while the 380 needs max to just barely get off 8
digital loom
the fuck is this dissertation in here
yeah charge rate is bad to have dump stat
dont need warp flurry at all if you have a good ccharge rate
i used to run rending shockwave but i changed to take advantage of the number of enemies you can hit with this staff
instead i just poke crushers with my deimos until they fall over since its 500 damage a poke
as far as soulblaze and slaughterer goes, yeah, but it's clunky to use
shadow wigeon
pls hadron
You're so close
shadow wigeon
i used to run rending shockwave but i changed to take advantage of the number of...
What instead of rending though? Crits on secondary aren't that big?
Agree that Flurry is minor on Trauma. Feels cool but doesn't change it much.
void arch
I thus solicit opinions. Trade off bigger blast radius and better rending for sl...
He said “I thus solicit opinions” bro stfu your so weird 💀
tropic vigil
conversation constable are here.
shadow wigeon
Yeah fair enough. I tried the meteor staff for awhile. Similar build although I ditched WAR.
I just found it a bit underwhelming. The 3 stack of SB from blazing is.....annoying.
digital loom
if the level of enemies is normal y ou wont really get a chance to bb an elite or special even with kinetic barrage, so it doesnt show its true power during normal gameplay
but when it gets crazy you will notice its power
spice veldt
He said “I thus solicit opinions” bro stfu your so weird 💀
weird but it's a concise way of asking for opinions following what they had said, so I personally have no issues with unusual phrases if it gets the point across
digital loom
spam small explosions just to get fire started then go for big explosions
spice veldt
80 vs 67 charge rate is only 195ms, but I'd favor the 80 charge rate since it's not as though brittleness is too important
shadow wigeon
spam small explosions just to get fire started then go for big explosions
Yeah, totally, I just don't like that you have no way of knowing when the second application of 3 stacks went off
ie when can i switch to wildfire sword
it just felt clunky
spice veldt
you do lose a bit of blast radius but I generally prioritize charge rate over blast radius
shadow wigeon
And wildfire w/o +power or AB does not seem very useful to me
digital loom
best feature of doing soulblaze/wildfire is that your pub teammates who dont reach important breakpoints can start one hitting horde
north solstice
i havent used an obscurus in a while
shadow wigeon
best feature of doing soulblaze/wildfire is that your pub teammates who dont rea...
Yeah agreed, I notice that too. I just prefer to +power and watch it spread.
spice veldt
nah, meh perks and meh first target
ornate hamlet
should buy?
No
shadow wigeon
should buy?
I would probably pass. It's a sword in a weird place. If that had better perks and blessings, you could gab it for if/when they change the weapon.
Even if that was Illisi Deimos that would be not a great purchase.
north solstice
i want my obscurus to be good :(
shadow wigeon
i want my obscurus to be good :(
It is... taking a break right now. It had to work so hard launching the game, it gets some time off.
I think the animation lock on it is the worst offender right now. That's pretty brutal to put up with when Deimos exists.
spice veldt
all the good obscurus are being used for the intro splash screen
wish cancelling out of the special attack was an option
to further distinguish it from the chain weapons
make it safer esp given that the bull of the damage is done at the end of the anim
wide tiger
its already so much better than the chain weapons so i dont know if it needs more to distinguish it
if anything the chain weapons need their anim cancelling back on the rev up
spice veldt
that's more on chain sword sucking
fresh steeple
He said “I thus solicit opinions” bro stfu your so weird 💀
thanks, boo
spice veldt
comparatively
wide tiger
chain weapons in general, axe kinda slides by with its access to its blessings but i think its not great either frankl;y
spice veldt
and chain weapons are more likely to kill while during the anim if you get it stuck in a trash enemy
and have a faster special activation (well for the chain sword in particular)
wide tiger
it used to be cancellable though
fresh steeple
you do lose a bit of blast radius but I generally prioritize charge rate over bl...
I ran a test run with the 380. Worked very well. Can't agree with the notion of Warp Flurry not doing anything, but I do generally agree with the notion that charge rate is better than blast radius
wide tiger
like you could special right into heavy which was really nice
Then they got rid of it cause ???Chain weapons too op???
spice veldt
too stronk
that's why they had to also reduce their ability to hit heads 😔
good thing fatshark saved us from it being too strong
fresh steeple
spam small explosions just to get fire started then go for big explosions
that worked decently well in testing, at least for the first cast or two
wide tiger
Can't have iconic warhammer weaponry surpassing a basic bitch axe
spice veldt
theres a mod which allows you to distinguish between melee and ranged damage dealt if you care for it
I forget the name since I'm not at my comp currently
fresh steeple
I can look around for it. But I'm sure most of the damage was ranged in this case XD
I only bring out Deimos to pop Mutants and close-range Ragers/Ogryns after a stagger
formal ridge
80 vs 67 charge rate is only 195ms, but I'd favor the 80 charge rate since it's ...
only 195ms hahaha XD sorry I just laugh coming from a fighting game background
no disrespect intended
spice veldt
smh when I arrive 0.033 seconds late to my appointment
formal ridge
What's the hoard cclear combo for deimos?
spice veldt
damn I wanna get home to show off my scoreboards as well
fresh steeple
^
formal ridge
average trauma blaze hi5 game
trauma blaze is on my To do list when I get nexus 4
spice veldt
prob heavy light light light or something to that nature
formal ridge
just swing it
so lights, ok even though the first light is a stab
digital loom
for dealing with a group of shooters that are kinda spread out you want to poke block poke block
fresh steeple
swing it, and have Slaughterer. Aim at heads when you can. That's about it.
formal ridge
I guess you get a stack on the first hit
fresh steeple
prob heavy light light light or something to that nature
First heavy does less damage than light attacks
but I guess it does have some cleave component
digital loom
i usually dont use it for horde
spice veldt
first heavy does less than the first light but not the second third and fourth lights
digital loom
if i am using deimos to horde, something has gone terribly wrong with the run
spice veldt
it's only the first stab that has extra damage
fresh steeple
average trauma blaze hi5 game
you're running, what, Blazing Spirit and Warp Nexus?
formal ridge
if i am using deimos to horde, something has gone terribly wrong with the run
thats the scenario Im trying to plan for lol
spice veldt
not bad for killing stragglers
formal ridge
prepare for the unexpected
digital loom
you're running, what, Blazing Spirit and Warp Nexus?
ye
deimos is basically an achlys combat axe but with deflector and unlimited dodges
meager plinth
and the ability to 1shot mutants
digital loom
even if you have to two shot them, it's very fast and useful
to just deal with mutants that quickly
especially since you can headshot them from behind with that sword
fresh steeple
ye
Sorta wanna try it out. I have a few bases sitting around that could work with it
lunar hollow
pls hadron
kms
lunar hollow
ive rolled bloodthirsty on so many swords i thought had promise
just such an awful fucking blessing to be t4 exclsuive
digital loom
@fresh steeple
fresh steeple
thanks
digital loom
i could go all in on ascendant blaze but i'd rather have fast bb because its more useful in dire situations and i already have enough fire application
fresh steeple
was just about to ask
why Warp Absorption?
just because you generally try not to quell peril after you get high?
digital loom
works well with trauma
no cooldown, blow up a chunk of horde back to full toughness, works on blaze kills also
wrack and ruin really underrated, shows its value in ambushes and such
in hi shock when you have dogs and stufff everywhere inside the horde you can get a lot of applications off
can clear out a reaper swarm by yourself with a few brain bursts
wrack and ruin should work on monstrosities too tbh
fresh steeple
actually found a purple that I stopped rolling because of perks
but they worked fine for crit purposes
rolled into t3 nexus a moment ago
ornate hamlet
What should I do with this? It looks hawt.
fresh steeple
What should I do with this? It looks hawt.
While I've honestly come to the conclusion that Unstable Power isn't as great on Deimos because it can't maintain high peril with special spam like Illisi, it's still a great blessing. I'd roll Unyielding into Flak, Shred into T4 Slaughterer
ornate hamlet
While I've honestly come to the conclusion that Unstable Power isn't as great on...
thanks for the tip.
shadow wigeon
Unstable on Deimos is great for mutie one shots
fresh steeple
it'll be even harder to maintain high peril with a WR stat that high, but you can always switch in when you're at high power
fresh steeple
Unstable on Deimos is great for mutie one shots
isn't as great. Still great.
shadow wigeon
What should I do with this? It looks hawt.
That is pretty amazing
fresh steeple
this is the one I use when not using KD
shadow wigeon
isn't *as* great. Still great.
I find charge + whatever peril I already had is sufficient 9/10 to get to one shot
frozen osprey
this is the one I use when not using KD
What is that skin??
ionic frost
I feel like my sprint and slide speed is slower since installing all the mods I did last night, anyone else know anything about this?
digital loom
quell speed above 60 should be just fine
spice veldt
there's a mod that removes all FOV changes
including the FOV increase when sprinting
feral verge
I feel like my sprint and slide speed is slower since installing all the mods I ...
mods aint gonna affect that
spice veldt
though it will affect their perception
I forget what it's called
it's the ConstantFov mod
fresh steeple
What is that skin??
pretty sure it's the Mortis Operative one
the one you got from the bonus edition
ionic frost
@spice veldt ahhh, that's gotta be it
frozen osprey
pretty sure it's the Mortis Operative one
Nice (part 2)
feral verge
<@297182781346152448> ahhh, that's gotta be it
if your character is tall, it will make them feel slower too
spice veldt
I like it since I get a more accurate representation of the change in speed from sprinting
ionic frost
All my characters are max height =)
feral verge
my main psyker is short af. my 2nd psyker is max height and feels way slower
(even tho obvi they're the same speed)
feral verge
im very glad im tiny
spice veldt
for that anti-ranged minmaxxing
ionic frost
10k Ordo should allow us to change our height...like surgery. =D
ionic frost
So you can't do it all the time unless u want to spend the dockets all the time
fresh steeple
stand tall and proud
spice veldt
how's the weather up there
feral verge
idc about small hitboxes
fresh steeple
show the Nurglites you're bigger and better
spice veldt
that's true
ingrain into the image of your teammate's eyes a small little gremlin beating heretics
fresh steeple
whoever said Warp Flurry doesn't matter on Trauma is out their gottdang mind, btw
spice veldt
I usually prefer to use trauma at around 75% peril and just quell two ticks for another cast
I also blow up sometimes
coincidence? probably
I also just have a habit of quelling sporadically and accidentally dropping my flurry stacks
fresh steeple
but a max charge rate max warp resist staff without flurry or tranq can get off four charged attacks before maxing out peril, while flurry+tranq gets you 8 at subpar stats and 9 at max
spice veldt
so I just said fuck it and figured I didn't really need flurry if I couldn't make use of it
fresh steeple
I also just have a habit of quelling sporadically and accidentally dropping my f...
this is fair
takes a bit of restraint to not quell until the last possible moment
spice veldt
anyways, here's my illisi propaganda
spice veldt
good timing then
fresh steeple
does NExus Mods have an auto-updater like Curseforge?
spice veldt
there's something called vortex, though I don't really know anything about it
I know that darktide isn't officially supported by it and you'll need the darktide vortex extension mod to make it work with it
the mod framework team has been cooking up their own mod manager, though when it will be released is unknown
formal ridge
What's the hoard cclear combo for deimos?
ok just did my psyk practice, I like force push>light,light,light
dont know the damage/cleave all that it just looks good
spice veldt
sweeping lights have 2 cleave
though the light attacks are quite fast to make up for their lack of cleave
and their high ass weakspot multiplier
formal ridge
andd theres only 1 heavy that cleaves animation-wise right?
spice veldt
yeah the 1st heavy on the deimos
and both heavies on the obscurus/illisi
the 2nd heavy has 1.5 cleave iirc
formal ridge
I guess I could do Heavy, light light like you said, then force push into lights
spice veldt
yeah since the push and push-attack chain into the second attack
wanton sandal
ok just did my psyk practice, I like force push>light,light,light
tbh even spamming lights and dodging works well for me
tho this might be more optimal
spice veldt
1st light is prob good enough since it's not really the cleave that matters for the lights
shadow wigeon
so I just said fuck it and figured I didn't really need flurry if I couldn't mak...
Flurry is just a big persistent peril refund on Trauma tho. 80% of trauma peril comes from the charge phase, so flurry is always giving you decent discounts
spice veldt
without inner tranq or ulting, it really only lets me get off one extra blast from 0% to 100%
formal ridge
it kinda seems like a lot of attacking the same spot
ionic frost
We cannot send warp communications out of the system, correct?
ionic frost
Does this mean a Tyranid fleet is about to appear?
spice veldt
in a dense horde, it's not too much of a concern
the sweeping lights are all diagonals, so you're pretty much guaranteed to hit a head
wave your mouse around if need be
shadow wigeon
without inner tranq or ulting, it really only lets me get off one extra blast fr...
Even that sounds pretty good to me, but I understand - what blessings do you prefer, though?
spice veldt
focused channeling is mandatory for me personally for sprint-sliding against ranged enemies
the second blessing is whatever but I currently run rending shockwave
orchid shadow
Someone played elevator music in elevator in the game I was just in. 😛
spice veldt
mostly to facilitate a crusher two-shot with BB with a trauma blast preceding it for the brittleness debuff
or for flamer team comps or just really any team comp for melee to do more damage to crushers
quelling is so fast that quelling two ticks is almost as fast as chaining blasts continuously (non-warp flurry)
fresh steeple
without inner tranq or ulting, it really only lets me get off one extra blast fr...
man's gotta run Inner Tranq too!
they all work in sync 🙂
spice veldt
you'll never wrestle warp unleashed from my hands
fresh steeple
but I get running WU for breakpoints
lunar hollow
inner tranq + battery is fun stupid trauma spam
spice veldt
I run WU mostly for melee and BB
I don't manage my warp charges at all and I hate having to ever 3-shot bulwarks with BB
lunar hollow
ive used it to keep some bad teammates alive when we get a really shitty horde + melee patrol on us
but i do really miss the WU BPs on BB
spice veldt
oh huh the push on the deimos chains onto the 4th light
fresh steeple
I don't manage my warp charges at all and I hate having to ever 3-shot bulwarks ...
this all tracks with a person who doesn't want to use IT XD
IT is definitely the major contributor to initial peril reduction
spice veldt
even before the quelling buffs, peril was never too much of an issue for me
besides the days when I was sleepy or the first few games from waking up
and I'm a god blessed quietude user
give me all that peril
fresh steeple
my view on Flurry is that it allows you to keep running out max charge attacks. Once you get all five, and especially if you get all five with max charges, you can cast something like 15 or 16 fully charged attacks with a timed ult
since using ult doesn't break flurry stacks if you use it below 100%
that's without any auto-quelling from kills
with auto-quelling I can get off 20+ at least in the course of a horde before I ever quell
lunar hollow
warp flurry = more boom, more boom = good
therefore
warp flurry = good
it comes in handy for juggling a bunch of maulers i would really rather not have to actually dodge
spice veldt
I hate crushers more than I like using trauma, so I prefer rending over flurry
lunar hollow
i run both. i have more casts cancelled because my internet sucks and i get pack loss meme'd out of an input so i dont really run focused
fresh steeple
I hate crushers more than I like using trauma, so I prefer rending over flurry
you... wouldn't run both?
spice veldt
focused channeling is mandatory for me
fresh steeple
surge is a waste, nexus does nothing without spirit, spirit does nothing without nexus
spice veldt
so one blessing slot is used by that
fresh steeple
focused channeling is mandatory for me
u wot
spice veldt
for sprint-sliding into shooters
fresh steeple
on a trauma?!
spice veldt
and playing aggressively into them
since ranged attacks always interrupt you out of a sprint
fresh steeple
...k
"I run into melee range of gunners without my sword so that I can get closer to them to use a 30-yard-range staff" is certainly not a strategy I expected to hear today
spice veldt
and it allows me to be ahead of my team to take the brunt of the shooters if I ever need to
it's not just being closer but taking aggro
taking aggro is a bit of a meme, but it will work if you're the one to deal the initial damage to shooters and you're closest to them
fresh steeple
if you insist
it's your gaming experience, not mine
I don't see why I'd eve want to run Trauma if my goal was to get into melee range and lock down gunners. I'd just be running Illisi+Surge or Autopistol at that point and dodge in with the sword
but if it works for you, I'm glad it works for you
spice veldt
the stagger usually interrupts shooters for a moment as well
and trauma generates peril unlike autopistol
so it's a combination of sprint-sliding, peril generated for Kinetic Shield/Quietude, and the stagger that protects me from shooters
limpid cypress
Don’t have the actual stats with me right now, but I got a voidstrike staff that had nearly all its points in crowd control. Me like explosion
All jokes aside, in no world am I using that lol
spice veldt
and my main purpose of trauma is for the protection against crusher hordes
the fact that it's good against ranged enemies is a bonus
fresh steeple
btw, after running a lot of Psykanium tests on max-stack Flurry casts, I've decided that charge speed doesn't actually matter. As long as I cast a slightly quicker first shot, I get as many "0 until explosion" casts off with the 67 stat Trauma as I do with the 80 stat Trauma
the 80 CR one is only better in the instance of "I need to get off a single cast right now or something's gonna hit me," in which case I can see the advantage of being able to start that cast ~.15 seconds later and still get it off, but you can always just use a slightly-less-than-max charge as well. All these useless words to say: I'm gonna use the 380 Trauma for now.
austere estuary
btw, after running a lot of Psykanium tests on max-stack Flurry casts, I've deci...
Charge speed differences are always going to be minimal once stacked Flurry t4 is going
provided the stat isn't total trash at least
fresh steeple
Charge speed differences are always going to be minimal once stacked Flurry t4 i...
my point exactly. It's really only affecting the very beginning of the sequence
and if it's only affecting the very beginning, then I prefer the bigger blast radius and better damage
austere estuary
I just love inner tranq + 6 charges + flurry 4
fresh steeple
same
austere estuary
if only the peril reduce on weakspot hit would be reworked for trauma
fresh steeple
I'm gonna try out this Blazing Spirit setup at some point, as I've heard good things about it in here
austere estuary
then we'd really be on pretty much infinite
fresh steeple
but I'll be hardpressed to not keep playing Popcorn Build
austere estuary
I've got another near 380 one with blazing 3 + nexus 4
fresh steeple
I'd probably run Rending even then. I really like having Rending for team damage. It makes Ogryn clusters so much nicer to work with.
austere estuary
it's fun having a much higher damage nuke since no point using inner tranq really, but overall feels a bit less capable of stopping things forever
fresh steeple
but then, that's a hypothetical. Maybe being able to cast forever would change my mind
austere estuary
I mean if you're using blazing you pretty much have to run nexus
for it to be worth having blazing
fresh steeple
I mean if you're using blazing you pretty much have to run nexus
I'm talking Rending+Flurry staff
austere estuary
oh I get you now
fresh steeple
sorry. yeah, our messages came in a bit staggered
austere estuary
yeah tough call tbh
rending is excellent
especially satisfying seeing teammates with autoguns and lasguns suddenly tear through them
spice veldt
go get that crusher my mk12 vet
only sad thing is that it means my team will do more damage
but I hate crushers more than I like hogging crusher kills
fresh steeple
only sad thing is that it means my team will do more damage
it's okay to let teammates also do damage
scoreboard=meme
spice veldt
no i want all da kills
this was my playstyle and guiding principle before mods came into the fray
spice veldt
that happens sometimes
part of it is exploring the limits of what I can and can't do in this game
and that usually entails playing aggressively into enemies
jaunty moth
orchid venture
are any of the dueling swords still worth using?
vivid saffron
What is the best Staff for Pysker?
spice veldt
for dodge distance and blocking
forest coral
otherwise deimos almost completely outclasses the ds
spice veldt
duelling swords have nothing else beyond that
vivid saffron
Please help. Which one is best Staff for Psyker?
spice veldt
you could make an argument for every staff, though I'd say voidstrike is the worst
forest coral
depends on what you'er trying to do with the staff build
vivid saffron
Btu best?
spice veldt
purg is easy to use, trauma is more generalist, surge is anti-special
vivid saffron
*But best?
forest coral
there is no 'best'
vivid saffron
No more Surge. What build?
vivid saffron
Pure DPS?
forest coral
purg
vivid saffron
Gotcha. Thanks mateys!
forest coral
Trauma is also not a bad staff to consider to learn, but it probs needs best rolls of the lot to be something other than a cc stick
forest coral
purg
proper ember
wicked
spice veldt
should unlock at lvl15
proper ember
i think im around 9 so im almost there ty
shit plays differently from vet, not used to managing perils yet and blew up a couple times
spice veldt
300iq main the plasmagun and then transition into being a psyker
forest coral
A trick that works for me is to always actively do a mini quell between each staff charge cast
and dont cast beyond 97%
spice veldt
I have a mod that lets me move my UI elements around, and I like to have my peril% sit by my crosshair
proper ember
i learned you can mitigate perils with f, but i do it too often
forget im on cooldown sometimes
spice veldt
forest coral
you can, but generally F should be saved to save team mates or to knock back things that are about to hit you or your team
proper ember
was curious how people were using their Fs
spice veldt
though you'll probably only ever need to save your ult for high intensity shock troopers
proper ember
like if they use it to quell or to buy some breathing room
forest coral
F quell can be used to save team mates through walls as well
spice veldt
I use it for both
proper ember
ooooh through walls 
spice veldt
if I'm impatient and the fight is nearing the end, I ult for a bit more damage to get it over with quickly
spice veldt
though quelling is so fast nowadays that it's a bit of a waste to ult for quelling except to satisfy your own impatience or you're trapped in a corner or something
forest coral
just dont use it exclusively for bad staff habits
orchid shadow
I cycle through my ult constantly. It's almost constantly on cooldown unless I hear a hound.
proper ember
regarding melee, whats the meta weapon
forest coral
staff skills dont really hit that hard on monstrosities
spice veldt
the deimos and illisi force swords are the better options for psyker currently
orchid shadow
Bu then again, I run kinetic barrage, so I get a lot of mileage out of ulting constantly
spice veldt
deimos being the single target option and illisi being the hordeclear/monstrosity option
proper ember
nice, im using the deimos. is it supposed to do more with lights than heavies?
proper ember
shiiiieeet
spice veldt
the 2nd heavy deals 2.5x more damage than the 1st heavy
proper ember
psykers get nice toys too
forest coral
Illisi, general all round best. Horde demolisher
Deimos is your elite killer
Obscurus is classic all rounder but excels neither
non force good options
combat axes
Tac axes
Knife
proper ember
ill unlock the rest to try them out later but yeah the deimos is tickling the good side of my brain
forest coral
deimos is also arguably best force sword for 1v1ing bosses
due to mobility and single target damage
you can kite forever
fresh steeple
lol@ doomtroopers
spice veldt
the bonus unyielding damage on illisi's special shouldn't be discounted either
proper ember
what does charging your sword with warp energy do, is it just extra damage or is it a crit?
fresh steeple
"WANT BEST DAMAGE NOW"
fresh steeple
what does charging your sword with warp energy do, is it just extra damage or is...
depends on sword
spice veldt
on the Deimos/Obscurus, it changes your damage profile and increases the damage
proper ember
oooh
fresh steeple
Deimos is just a bigger damage bonus that goes through armor
spice veldt
your attacks deal 100% to all armour types except flak against which it deals 200%
proper ember
OOOH
fresh steeple
sometimes worse than light->heavy stab for damage, sometimes better
spice veldt
for the Illisi, you deal 100% to everything except Unyielding (175% damage) and Carapace (75% damage)
proper ember
i see i see
spice veldt
the main use for the deimos/obscurus special is either for the powerful stagger or to annihilate flak enemies
fresh steeple
light->heavy is better, for instance, against Mutants (assuming you have the time and aim to set it up and hit the head). Charge attack will be better against Crushers for instance
Illisi charge is similar to Power Sword on Vet in terms of effect
proper ember
im used to pswords so thats nice
fresh steeple
with the added bonus of being spammable, and thus allowing you to always maintain very high peril for Unstable Power and Warp Unleashed
mental rock
Something to note for force special attacks is that it hits 4 times, so if you get a weak spot with uncanny it counts as 4 stacks
spice veldt
deimos/obscurus require you to swap off to another weapon and back on to spam the special activation continuously, but illisi allows you to spam the special activation even while the special is active
calm raven
TLDR: I need advice from the psyker mains to clear my dilemma of destroying the illisi to buff the deimos.
Fluff:
I got this illisi at the shop from melk just now. I don't have slaughterer 4 which I would love to have on my deimos. I find value in giving my deimos slaughterer 4 because I managed to clutch a high-shock once on heresy and damnation (something I didn't think I could do because I don't main psyker); which makes me biased for it since I wished I had a bit more oompf with the sword when I was under pressure during those runs. The dilemma is that I don't actually have a decent illisi and this has the potential to be a good weapon until I can build another up (which will be a while because I don't main psyker; level 30+70). If I don't break down the Illisi, I could just swap out uncanny strike for deflector and maniac damage for crit chance.
faint heron
That's actually a really good Illisi considering the low stat total
spice veldt
I'd say that t3 slaughterer will be good enough on your deimos
mental rock
I'm a Deimos simp so I would just earn the slaughterer
forest coral
get that slaughterer iv
faint heron
Best blessing combo imo also
spice veldt
but that illisi has a rather low warp resistance
forest coral
like its easier to roll brunts for a better stat weapon
faint heron
Warp resistance is meh
forest coral
than it is to find slaughterer iv
spice veldt
i'd just make the decision based on whether you plan on using the deimos or illisi more
proper ember
69% nice
faint heron
Warp resistance is dump stat for me every day of the week
mental rock
Well low warp res is actually desirable for unstable power
spice veldt
it's a dump stat, but I still want it to be high in particular for the illisi
though in my case, the illisi is my primary weapon
faint heron
In this case it is considerably low but if you haven't got a good Illisi I'd be keeping that one
fresh steeple
the first illisi is almsot perfect
spice veldt
I'd preferably have at least a 51% warp res illisi to get off 5 specials from 0%
fresh steeple
don't you dare destroy it
faint heron
That Illisi has perfect blessings and perfect stat distribution just a low total stat count but still good if no other option
calm raven
i'd just make the decision based on whether you plan on using the deimos or illi...
So uhh about that... please don't hurt me but I haven't actually tried the illisi yet and don't fully understand what it does vs the deimos. xD I used a bad obscurus or an antax until I lucked out on the deimos. Now the illisi happened... I only have bloodthirsty because I lucked out on it on my journey to getting deflector >_>
spice veldt
illisi's special is the same as Vet's power sword
the special increases the cleave on your light and heavy attacks to 10.5 and increases their damage profile
mental rock
No power cycler unfortunately
spice veldt
the stagger also increases and you can stagger ragers/maulers out of their attacks
though the illisi being faster mitigates the need for power cycler
mental rock
True
spice veldt
and the ability to spam the everliving fuck out of it because of infinite dodges
mental rock
Infinite dodges is also nice
fresh steeple
That Illisi has perfect blessings and perfect stat distribution just a low total...
I'd rather have too little warp resist on an Illisi than too much
faint heron
Yeah if it had power cycler it would be truly broken
fresh steeple
the toehr four stats are almost maxed
calm raven
Is the special activation also a single strike like the other 2 force swords?
faint heron
Uncanny is a super underated blessing, I use uncanny on mine, it's good essentially removing the only weakness to the weapon
spice veldt
it cleaves multiple targets but will disappear after a single swing
digital loom
sufficient methinks
just came out of this hishock
not having to worry about ammo is such a blessing
calm raven
Uncanny is a super underated blessing, I use uncanny on mine, it's good essentia...
so you'd argue that it'd be worth it to keep uncanny over slapping a deflector over it?
spice veldt
I also vote in favor of having a second offensive blessing instead of deflector
mental rock
I'm not a fan of deflector anyway
faint heron
Depends on your playbstyle
spice veldt
though this advice is coming from people who know to abuse dodge-slides
faint heron
If your using it as a super aggressive offensive weapon no, don't put deflector on it
calm raven
right now I'm considering keeping it and just swapping maniac damage for critical hit.
Also the only slaughterer perk I have with hadron is actually just Tier 1 slaughterer...
faint heron
If you sit back a bit more to maybe bb some more and pick targets then you can use deflector
spice veldt
maniac is one of the best perks for melee weapons
and critical hit damage is unequivocally one of the worst for any weapon
calm raven
oh i was gonna go for crit chance, not dmg
faint heron
Not for force weapons though
Yes crit chance best for force weapons
Since critical on force weapons are auto weak spot criticals
spice veldt
even on normals, the crit damage multiplier drops when you hit weakspots compared to a bodyshot
shadow wigeon
Crit damage bonus on Deimos is ~125%, crit on WS is 40% bonus
shadow wigeon
It's basically a 3-5% damage bonus, against all types. I wouldn't go for it over a specific damage boost.
spice veldt
and being RNG based
so 1-in-10 attacks critting
which is not particularly impressive or reliable
faint heron
I notice it far more often than 1 in 10
spice veldt
I'll do the testing in the meatgrinder then