psyker-class

[nimble burrow]

another site says both ragers are elites lol

[spice veldt]

you can tell which enemies are elites by whatever enemies take +10% extra damage from somewhere

because of our Aura granting +10% elite damage

[hearty python]

@nimble burrow I got it just playing my normal style in like 5 missions

[fierce sinew]

I'm actually kind of impressed any confusion on this topic could remain still

[nimble burrow]

it's just internet misinformation, standard issue in 2023

[fierce sinew]

this is one of the relatively few easily googleable things

like you have to purposely click on ign/pcwhatever SEO garbage like scam target retiree

to goof that

[wide tiger]

gunners ragers shotgunners are elites

anything that doesnt have a sound queue with it spawns

specialists have that little area to themselves in the pysk

[nimble burrow]

gotcha, that makes sense.

burned 100k and got this from brunt, thanks mate

[ornate hamlet]

I think the easiest way I used to tell elites from specialists was spawning noises

[wide tiger]

100k? my god

ive spent like 10 million at brunt and not gotten a base that good

[ornate hamlet]

Not a single elite announces their existence, while you have things like the dog's howling, the mutant's scream, the trapper's cocaine-infused squirrel talk, the flamer's uhhh

[wide tiger]

FIRE DEATH RENEWAL

[ornate hamlet]

The tox flamer is really prevalent over the scab one, for some reason

At least for my matches

Almost all flames I see are green

[spice veldt]

snipers:

[ornate hamlet]

I seriously don't remember the scab flamer's line

[wide tiger]

Same argument everytime snipers sound queues come from your own team 😛

[ornate hamlet]

I remember the sniper's spawn line

[wide tiger]

someone always yells SNIPER or whatever

[ornate hamlet]

It's:

[wide tiger]

or traxis blah blah blah

[spice veldt]

my character shouted sniper the moment the sniper decided to fire

in that particular instance, I counted and it came out to 300ms for me to react

[ornate hamlet]

TRAXIS ONE DOUBLE-THREE SEVEN ON LOCKDOWN

BLOODY'ELL HE DID A 360 NOSCOPE

[wide tiger]

300ms skill check

[round jay]

when it says "while not at critical peril" it means 100% peril or when the number is red?

[wide tiger]

crit peril for auto BB is 90% iirc

[round jay]

great, cause sometime when you reach 100% it stay red until 50% or smt

[pearl lion]

So do snipers just ignore deflector?

[spice veldt]

their shots are unblockable yeah

[pearl lion]

Ah ok

[spice veldt]

similar to crusher/mauler overheads

[pearl lion]

Note to self

Dont try that again

[spice veldt]

maybe it was bad luck

do try it again

for science

preferably on damnation

[pearl lion]

[round jay]

yeah, try it even 3 or 4 time, just to be sure

[ripe zinc]

Finally got my trauma staff

[green sphinx]

Nearly have all of psykers penances done, only lvl 25. They nerfed these so hard. Especially Going Out With a Bang

[grand arrow]

they buffed them

[green sphinx]

nerfed how difficult they were i mean

[formal ridge]

they are, afaik. scab and dreg ragers are both elites

[ornate hamlet]

I don't know if it was the case before, but you can get the bang penance on veteran

[north solstice]

you could, with the plasma gun or whatever its called

i thought they patched that out tho

[hearty python]

@round jay I think it's 95 or 97%

[ornate hamlet]

You have been fatsharked™

[hearty python]

@green sphinx what is it now, because I did it before the patch

[ornate hamlet]

Veteran is now a better psyker than the psyker

[lethal swan]

And I've seen a TON of non-staff psychers

[hearty python]

@ornate hamlet flamer is usually something like "bringing the flame"

[lethal swan]

🙄

[north solstice]

bro what is with everyone playing psyker now

[ornate hamlet]

The cape

It's always the cape

[north solstice]

horrific

i miss being the only psyker on my team tbh

made me feel special

[hearty python]

@north solstice psyker is fun, powerful, and versatile with multiple viable builds for different play styles

[dawn sphinx]

Just need to get a good tier 4 blessing after upgrading it and I might have something going there!

[north solstice]

no shit thats why i play it

but all these POSERS

I WAS THERE

WHEN PSYKER WAS SHIT

[untold spade]

Is there a particular staff I should use that goes best with Illisi sword

We've got a hippie psyker here

[north solstice]

any staff goes fine with it

[tall temple]

the illisi does short range crowd control, so you can probably pick something up that compliments that

[north solstice]

usually people run illisi with surge or voidstrike

[tall temple]

horde clear*

[north solstice]

mostly surge tho

although i run mine with purge just cuz i like the moveset

[hearty python]

@north solstice I've been Psyker main since the beta too

[north solstice]

my man

[hearty python]

@north solstice I run Deimos with my Void Illisi would got great with Surge

[tall temple]

bit too much overlap with illisi and purge imo, but if it works it works

[feral verge]

nice

these new penances are comfy

[untold spade]

Is surge/voidstrike better against elites/ogryns or should I just keep popping their heads like eggs

[feral verge]

was able to get them all in just a few hours

[north solstice]

purge is great against elites

but i usually just BB

[feral verge]

pop their heads

dont waste staff on them

[north solstice]

surge**

[feral verge]

only use surge to stagger them if there's a shitload of them

[hearty python]

@untold spade I BB elites even with Void usually but if they're mixed into a horde I won't switch, usually takes them down I a couple of full charged shots. Really with I could swap the Unyielding I have on my staff to Maniac but it's locked and I have flak as my other perk

[tall temple]

Depends on how far away they are. Sometimes you gotta stagger them, sometimes its better to pop em.

[hearty python]

True, Void can stagger a lot of them if you get them with a good charged shot

And surge is just surge

[untold spade]

Interesting, thank you all for the insight

[hearty python]

Stuns everything

[obtuse moth]

surge does fine on groups of ragers and shotgunners etc

[north solstice]

love me surge

[hearty python]

If they're close in though I usually switch to Force Sword and hit em with the charged shot or go for the heavy stab with deimos

[obtuse moth]

void isnt good dps against elites, you're generally better off brain bursting or melee

you can spam void shots with quell cancel if you want to use it as a budget cc staff to hold off packs of elites

trauma is a better elite cc staff than surge imo fwiw. surge is more for specialist cc than for elite cc

[hearty python]

True about the quell cancel spam, I've used that to push poxbursters

Problem with trauma for CC is it moves them around too much

[obtuse moth]

it can cc a lot more and in mixed hordes as well

if you're overwhelmed, the issue is stopping them at all

target cap can screw you over there with surge

[hearty python]

At least that's what I don't like about it because suddenly the thing I'm. Targeting isn't where I was firing

[cyan moth]

I like my lightning staff

[north solstice]

same bro

just waiting for them to buff it

[cyan moth]

Shits the best

[north solstice]

in the next seven to eight years

but itll come

[cyan moth]

And it's the most versatile

Like

[north solstice]

ehhhhh

[cyan moth]

Not only does it stun 8 or so enemies

[hearty python]

That is true about surge. Frankly I don't play either of them as I personally don't enjoy the way they play, but I have seen them used very effectively

[cyan moth]

I can cancel mutant charges

[obtuse moth]

surge is 5 enemies iirc

[cyan moth]

And cancel and save players from being thrown by them

[north solstice]

yeah but you can also just dodge mutants

[spice veldt]

it's more than 5

[cyan moth]

It's more than 5

I use my MK 5 force sword for crowds

[hearty python]

@cyan moth I just stab them in the face with Deimos (or get grabbed trying)

[spice veldt]

just that it can be random

[cyan moth]

True

But being able to damage enemies around a corner is

Immensely useful in tight situations

Don't get me wrong

Muh fire is nice

[north solstice]

id argue trauma is the most versatile even tho i hate using it

[cyan moth]

Ehh

[obtuse moth]

you can damage enemies around a corner with trauma as well

and cc them

[cyan moth]

The damage surge has against carapace and armored just makes it a lot more useful for me

[spice veldt]

trauma being able to deal with densities is a huge boon

[hearty python]

@north solstice I just don't like it's limited range on secondary

[north solstice]

surge is definitively the weakest staff by a large margin, lets not pretend its not, but it has its redeeming qualities

[obtuse moth]

you can also use it right through spawn doors

[north solstice]

same

[cyan moth]

Surge could do more damage but it's my go to

[spice veldt]

the range is limited, but I find it to be good enough

[north solstice]

it just feels weird

[cyan moth]

I got good blessings for the other staffs but

Surge is the one I find myself using the most

[spice veldt]

it's approximately 20 meters max, and shooters don't do that much damage at that distance

[north solstice]

i mean this is what i use and i would use surge if i had a weaker staff tbh

its also like

my only good roll in general

[spice veldt]

trauma also has the benefit of infinite cleave

you're not likely to be in games where melee elites squish your team into a corner

[cyan moth]

I typically like being more support than anything

Stun for me has been so useful in these past few games I've had

[hearty python]

@north solstice swap Nexus for transfer peril for ultimate voidstriking

[north solstice]

its a surge ;-;

[spice veldt]

I like to chase scoreboard stats

[north solstice]

i just use the voidstrike skin

[violet yoke]

Void staff is shit

Afk

[hearty python]

Oh, didn't read just looked

[north solstice]

lol all good

[cyan moth]

Voidstrike is satisfying as fuck to use

Love it on high intensity missions

[spice veldt]

trauma also having a faster charge (1.3 seconds) compared to surge (1.98s) at 80% charge rate

[cyan moth]

Yeah but I've got the blessing that reduces that time to charge

[crude cape]

what feats

[cyan moth]

So the more you use it, because you will need more than one charge

It's still doing what it's good at

Which is stunning enemies for my friends to deal with

[spice veldt]

it's good at that, but the problem arises when hordes are mixed with melee elites and your team is meh or you came out of an airlock/dropdown

I also don't trust my teammates to not randomly die to meet elites or to be able to kite

this is on NA West btw

[jaunty moth]

This game needs to give my psyker an auto pistol already

[spice veldt]

maybe you get better teammates in your region

[green sphinx]

why is cliffhanger of all penances the one that's giving me grief

[jaunty moth]

This just droped lol

Then I made this. Now to craft them up.

[dawn crypt]

Is surging strikes bad for void staff?

[ember sentinel]

surging strikes?

like surge the blessing?

[dawn crypt]

Sorry whatever its called. The one that shoots 2 bolts on crit

[ember sentinel]

if so then it works but its not great

but it does work on the secondary

[dawn crypt]

ya it works on left and right click, i just think the proc chance is not high enough to be consistent or significant

[ember sentinel]

yeah crit chance on void not great

could build around it but def not worth a whole build

[dawn crypt]

ya I guess flurry and quell it is

[tired notch]

this any good, siblings?

[long wharf]

you need ranged crit chance perk

[north solstice]

sorry bro but the breakpoint for voidstrike damage is 81%

you have to scrap it now :/

[dawn sphinx]

Aw man! Not a single tier 4 on this one.

Kinda crap.

[north solstice]

nah

just swap off terrifying for nexus

itll be solid

[dawn sphinx]

I only have that as tier 3 though.

[north solstice]

all good bro

its a 4% diff

[dawn sphinx]

And I need 99 plasteel.

[north solstice]

L

run a malice

[dawn sphinx]

I don't like how many ragers spawn nowadays.

[hot cypress]

any psykers trying to get redacted penances?

[north solstice]

are you trying to do head honcho?

/malleus monstronum

[hot cypress]

no but i can help you get it

[north solstice]

nah i already did it before they changed it

i was gonna help you lol

[hot cypress]

im trying to get an ogryn penance

[north solstice]

which one?

[hot cypress]

dont stop me now

super easy

jsut need private game

[north solstice]

why did they make that one a private game

[hot cypress]

because they hate us

[north solstice]

theres no reason for them to do that

[hot cypress]

your telling me

[north solstice]

do you just want me to pop in with you in a squad and you pop your abilities then we dip?

[hot cypress]

yeah id love you forever

[north solstice]

coolio

1040864506 fren code

[dawn crypt]

If ur going for crit, maybe even roll 5% crit on there. If ur not critting, the surge is wasted.

[north solstice]

my internet is being kinda stinky tho

[fresh steeple]

fuq is this

a phone photo?

[manic halo]

what are the stats you want to be high on a trauma staff?

blast radius right?

[fresh steeple]

Windows+Shift+S, plebeian! Snipping tool

[fresh steeple]

All of them. There are no real dump stats. But the closest to a dump stat is Quell speed, and then possibly Damage since you only lose one damage per stat point

you want Blast, Warp Resist, and Charge as high as possible

[manic halo]

ahhhh ok

and any specific blessings on it?

[cyan notch]

you dont need super high warp res

60ish is acceptable

[manic halo]

so this aint too bad?

[vestal rose]

hadron what the fuck

she just gave me 5% crit chance and blazing spirit 3 on a good trauma staff

is she malfunctioning?????

[green sphinx]

hell yeah, all psyker penances done

and my psyker is still only lvl 26

[north solstice]

Including the redacted? If so good shit my man

[karmic delta]

Show us the drip

[vestal rose]

AND NOW SHE ADDED WARP NEXUS 4

hadron broke

[cold geode]

yea, it seems like they rebalanced the % for getting high level blessings from hadron

i got surge 3 times in two days

[vestal rose]

yo what

wild

[cold geode]

and i got like 2 other high level blessings on the second day

[vestal rose]

actually i did get two 4s in the last two days
vs two 4s in like a month previously lmao

[cold geode]

hell i just got two high levels for the shovel on my ogryn about 10 minutes ago

[runic python]

So upgrade crit chance and nexus and this one is pretty good?

[steel flame]

You ballin right there.

[fresh steeple]

I would probably take Flak Armor over Elite instead

and am not personally a fan of BS+WN over RS+WF

but yes, that's a pretty good staff

[pseudo gale]

https://tenor.com/view/wet-owl-gif-24964779

[pine hearth]

dont worry spark'eads ill protect

[obtuse moth]

and use ascendant blaze, use on elites after you get a burning proc from your staff on them

[dusk sierra]

what blessings for purgatus? I figure warp flurry then idk

[obtuse moth]

nexus or focused channeling

crits give an extra stack of burning

[dusk sierra]

gotcha

got a good base so going to go to the lab

momma

just went from green to blue

[runic python]

godspeed

[primal plume]

is this fire staff worth a buy?

[dusk sierra]

yes, just for nexus IV alone imo

[long wharf]

We need a new name for Hadron

Brickmaker

[long wharf]

Absolutely yes

It's a very good purge staff

[primal plume]

is this bis?

[dusk sierra]

damn close to it, if not

also, what feats yall running for purgatus

[obtuse moth]

31111 (2or3) i think

[dusk sierra]

tyty

[obtuse moth]

oh you can take 31211(2or 3) as well

[wintry vortex]

how's psyker doing compared to the other classes in terms of strength nowadays

[spice veldt]

no burst ranged DPS staff yet but we're pretty strong; probably as strong as we'll ever be

[wintry vortex]

so... still bad (relatively speaking)?

[spice veldt]

we have a power sword but better and we can get a 41% damage buff from warp unleashed (+25% at 100% peril) and 4 warp charges (+16%) alone

quelling is also significantly faster now

downtime is a thing of the past

[karmic delta]

Carried games before as Psyker

Definitely in a better place than it was before

Lots of build varieties

[untold meteor]

just cleared a Hi5 as 3 psyker 1 vet while helping out Vet was a Lv24 with a Recon Lasgun. Granted it was a premade and it was her alt but boy was it scary at times

The quelling speed, more forgiving warp charge decay, and cracked Force Swords really helps out Psyker cut out a good niche for itself currently

[subtle linden]

Shredder autopistol psyker + illisis force sword is god tier

[untold meteor]

I just made the one on the left and I feel like it's better just from the stacking power blessings but I'm not completely sure

[subtle linden]

Slaughter is top tier blessing and a requirement on force sword.

[spice veldt]

power is +damage, +cleave, and +stagger, so it'll definitely feel better

[ornate hamlet]

Slaughterer is free damage on hordes and ezmode clear

Rending would be nice on deimos, but it already has terrifying weakspot damage anyway and the funny special

[untold meteor]

well assuming the right one has slaught intead of uncanny

[ornate hamlet]

I think it'd be better then, yeah

Unstable power is more of an illisi thing because you can just masturbate the sword repeatedly

Deimos doesn't let you spam it, so pushing unstable power up gets harder

[fierce sinew]

no, unstable power is definitely an every force sword thing

you build peril with your staff

[ornate hamlet]

Oh yeah, staves exist

Anyway, uh

[karmic delta]

at that point, just use the staff instead of going melee

[fierce sinew]

exactly

in both cases you're building peril with the thing you're primarily holding

you pull deimos out to one shot mutant or rager and put it away again

[digital loom]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-slam-slam-desk-desk-slam-xqc-slam-gif-19145485

i hate gun psykers

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-gif-26561686

anyway uh, I'm wearing what everyone's wearing

"sterling is that a-"
no it isn't

[karmic delta]

Git gud Sibling.

[ornate hamlet]

The holy trinity

Camelid racing, moebian iron and starch slabs

[digital loom]

"need ammo!" the funniest thing i've ever heard a psyker cry for.

[ornate hamlet]

Riveting, superb and, dare I add, quite unparalleled

[digital loom]

little ammo goblin playing machine pistol instead of psyker

[karmic delta]

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT CULTURE? NOW?

The Savant is like Ellis from L4D

[karmic delta]

Git gud Sibling.

[karmic delta]

https://tenor.com/view/heisenberg-walter-white-staredown-breaking-bad-gif-26437139

Live me reaction:

[acoustic trench]

What should I replace precognition with? Perhaps something that synergizes with the crits?

[ornate hamlet]

Ideally slaughterer

[acoustic trench]

Well I guess I gotta go hunting for lvl 4 slaughterer then.

[ornate hamlet]

If you want to make something different, you could get blazing spirit, or whatever was that blessing to pop warpfire on the enemies you crit

[acoustic trench]

What's the meta blessings for the illisi? Blood thirsty and slaughterer?

Or maybe unstable power and slaughterer.

[spice veldt]

I'd say unstable power over bloodthirsty

[ornate hamlet]

Unstable power and slaughterer, but slaughterer alone covers a lot due to the weapon already having bullshit high weakspot multipliers

Sometimes I just don't bother spamming the special

[spice veldt]

numerical comparison of unstable vs bloodthirsty

could go either way though

and it's not really that big of a difference

[acoustic trench]

Thanks for the help siblings.

[cyan notch]

deflector on top

[magic burrow]

the camelid racing is absolutely riveting

[digital loom]

it doesnt work anymore

sad

they patched that one

its supposed to disappear lol

[spice veldt]

the fact that ogryn enemies can walk through you and make you get stuck inside them is some proper doodoo

[twilit flicker]

S u p e r l a t i v e

gratifying, you agree?

[near wyvern]

Any enemy can do this. If you have an incoming horde and you don't have enough cleave they will push through you and you will get stuck in them with no ability to move or dodge

[digital loom]

wipe to mutant at the elevator

there was so much shit going on that game i couldnt focus at the end lol

hishock5 hounds

[placid stratus]

So, quick question, mostly because I forgot

What am I supposed to look for in a force sword in terms of blessings?

[placid stratus]

Understood

[spice veldt]

if you prefer an offensive blessing instead of deflector, unstable power, bloodthirsty(only on the illisi), or uncanny strike are candidates

[spice veldt]

fuckin power supply global condition but somehow two damnation missions are hunting grounds

[fathom adder]

Exorcist Executor on a Deimos can be decent since the charged attack counts as multiple hits as it discharges

[magic burrow]

I firmly believe that the mission screen is actively monitored and updated by one guy whose sole job is to make sure the available selection is a bad and boring as possible

[ornate abyss]

is this good?

[near wyvern]

Does it work on Deimos? On Obscurus it doesn't work and I think they share the special.

[loud jewel]

it's worth it for warp flurry 4 alone imo

[near wyvern]

Yes if you swap surge for transfer peril and swap ranged weak spot to flak

A ready to go staff so to speak

[loud jewel]

now you just need the melk bucks to buy it

[fathom adder]

Derp, I meant Executor not Exorcist

Saw a video about it a few days ago

[digital narwhal]

Wanting to get some thoughts on whether sticking with my current Purgatus would be the best move, or trying to potentially make something better from this blue, considering it it can get an extra stack of burn opposed to my currently equipped one.

[fathom adder]

If you have resources to spare why not, Hadron will probably fcuk it up anyway.

If you have other weapons with more potential to upgrade, might as well try those first

[ornate abyss]

it's perfect?

[digital narwhal]

Oh also, reckon we might have another Staff on the way eventually?
The Force Sword skins in the shop all used the model for the Illisi, and so the fact we don't have a Staff with this model as it's base makes me think one might be in the works.

[cyan notch]

maybe but it looks an awful lot like void

[spice veldt]

prob just a different mark

[sterile vale]

That's just the voidstrike staff model

with some slightly changed handle bits

[feral verge]

the eagle thing at the top is voidstrike yeah

[sterile vale]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/storage/sites/darktide/weapons/stats/tXK7X9j2MJBgkNfZJHUDyLGOLumxk1u326BbNPny.jpg

[digital narwhal]

Well yeah, but the handle is what tipped me off.

I'm not saying "Omg it's gonna happen"

But it'd be interesting if it was a trend

[near wyvern]

Not perfect but very good, ideally you would swap the warp resistance and quell speed around

For void you want high damage, charge rate and warp resist. Blast radius is a nice bonus and quell speed is the least important.

Warp Flurry and Transfer Peril are the only blessings worth considering. For perks you ideally want +unarmoured and +flak for anti ranged warfare.

[ornate abyss]

but it's ok for damnation?

[near wyvern]

Yes, it's very usable. I recommend feats like 31x1y3. X is choice any you want and Y is choose either 1 or 3.

Void has poor elite and monstrosity DPS so having kinetic barrage helps a lot.

Only consider Psychic Communion if you go with battery, otherwise I recommend to pair Kinetic Flayer with either Psykinetic's Aura (more vs elites and specials) or Cerebral Lacerations (more vs ogryns and monstrosities).

Melee choice is either Illisi (more towards horde clear) or Deimos (more towards single target killing)

[ember sentinel]

does the mg4 lasgun and the mk12 share blessings?

theres a no respite 4 in my shop that id pick up for my vet if they do

[cyan notch]

yes

[rare furnace]

Did they steal the shirtless option?

[gray spoke]

it's not a perfect hood and cape fit, and the Gorget does float a bit. But how could I not do this.. (they should add a hood with a similar hue of brown)

[fallow isle]

man

these new psyker penances aren't harder they just take forever

what a pain in the ass

and I thought the zealot stun nade ones were bad

[gray spoke]

for me it was actually not that bad, I used this build if it is any help. The main key is just Psykientic Aura, together with kinetic Barrage, only took me a couple games to get all the brain burst related once out of the way, the ones that look a bit grindy

especially the cape is super easy, just 25 disablers

[cold oasis]

Just run 31111

With that you can pretty much spam Brain Burst into F (psychenetic wrath) into more of itt

you can pretty much go infinite

[tropic vigil]

i actually like the way the penances are designed. just encourages normal gameplay and not forces you to do anything weird

[cold oasis]

well, the not explode if you play normally it'll take years to complete xd

[tropic vigil]

no more awkwardly asking my team to wait as i shove enemies off a cliff

yea thats the last one i need and dont think ill get it anytime soon

legit threw several matches trying to get it

[ornate abyss]

ayo how do I get that fit

[cold oasis]

just use the 11111 for that one

you can spam it

[spice veldt]

warp battery and quicken being the relevant ones

I hopped into a sedition match and spammed that shit

[cyan notch]

they didnt take that long for me

only thing i had to change was quicken for that one penance

[dawn sphinx]

Should I combine the crit and blaze chance? I am hella tempted to!

[north solstice]

i never touched blazing spirit but i think it could be a fun combo

[dawn sphinx]

I need to find one with the bloodthirsty blessing. Guaranteed crits on special attack? That sounds like fun! But. . . It would be better on the cleave sword, I suppose.

[vestal raven]

change cara to flak?

[gray spoke]

True but, I find since it the minimum requirement to be heresy I dont think 6 stacks is a must, with quicken and elite cooldown I can keep my one shot breakpoint while having the charge speed to get pox hounds and etc consistently, (and im also in random pubs, not with a premade that give me all elite kills for free, so i have to do what ensures i get the kills first), in random pubs I wouldn't really recommend quicken

[gray spoke]

I think it would be more viable no the IIIisi variant, but thats just me. I am sure it would still be fun on the deimos, what do you lose on trying anyways

[gray spoke]

Deffinently I think the voidstrike is great with a buff to kill shooters, things like crushers and maulers you will be better off just staggering them rather trying to kill them, I usually give enemies I cant kill with voidstrike on its own a few stagger shots and then swap to brain burst

Personally I actually run 10% weakspot damage, because hitting multiple headshots in one big charge up is pretty easy, and I get alot of value out of it combined with tranfer peril

similar to the javelin from vermintide and some other weapons, aiming headlevel with a weapon that has so much cleaver, will basically garauntee that you get a ton of headshots, same goes goes for groups of shooters/assaulters

[vestal raven]

alright

[gray spoke]

Made this thing, could have been rending on headshot. But I just happen to have the tier 4 shred.

[outer spindle]

guys i have a question I almost complete all previous achivements on psyker for the 3d helmet, is it possible to complete old achievments for now or they deleted them forever?😢

[tropic vigil]

yeah pretty sure you can still complete them they are just filed under a separate tab

penances > redacted

[outer spindle]

Oh my god thank you

I thought I’ll never got the 3d helm

[halcyon creek]

Interesting...

[tropic vigil]

Whats the best perk for illisi?

Unarmored or flak?

[dusk sierra]

literally came to ask about this lmao

I default to flak most of the time honestly

the stamina perk is rough but the other one I was was sprint efficiency or something lol

[crude cape]

the 3 curios im rocking....is this ok? I have other legendaries with other combos but, its like a fucking puzzle finding even 6/9 perks you want lol

anything stand out that should be changed?

each have a stat i could reroll

and i have other legendaries made

[tropic vigil]

21% is max for health so when you can swap that swap it.

[crude cape]

oh ya, i should have said that

[tropic vigil]

personally i dont like using toughness

[crude cape]

once i find max main stat ones ill buy em

but the ones i do find roll like shit 😛

haha

[tropic vigil]

and since im a solo player i like having wounds just in case, i found that 21% and 3 5% health is sufficient

[crude cape]

i was FULL TOUGHNESS stack until a couple days ago and swapped to this, mostly HP stack with 1 toughness and it feels like a better balance. I could see going full hp, or a wound

so you think i would be best dropping the toughness one all together

and just going 3x hp

im trying to get used to playing w/o wounds atm

[tropic vigil]

i would swap toughness for wounds, but wounds just boil down to personal preference and how risky you like to play.

then just replace the two health curios as you get 21%

[dusk sierra]

I'm a big proponent of 1hp/1toughness/1 wound

[tropic vigil]

consider stamina since it is good though

[dusk sierra]

for the most part

[ruby berry]

Think I may have got a bit screwed, whats worth changing here as I've not used Illisi prior to now

[dusk sierra]

I used to run double hp+wound on my zealot and idk. the balance feels better

[crude cape]

i used to run this, but i found it just spread the numbers thin and the bonuses were barely noticeable

so then i swapped to all toughness, under the logic that toughness is the infinitely generated resource, so having more max is better than HP

[dusk sierra]

tru tru

still can't go 2 wounds personally tho

[crude cape]

while i used that for a while I worked on these HP% build...and after swapping to it HP% feels way better than toughness stacking

im not sure why

I never did 2 wounds either, and ive been punished for it a few times

but wanted to try it bc stacking an extra hp/toughness curio theoretically should mean you go down less anyway

[vernal frost]

i'd rather just get a new one, this one is ruined

[dusk sierra]

true

[ruby berry]

[dusk sierra]

but sometimes you just go down because shit happens

so the buffer helps a ton

[crude cape]

ya, true

[dusk sierra]

for me anyways

I'll give 2x hp a spin

[crude cape]

i can swap the toughness curio above for this one.
Issue is im missing my 30% toughness regeneration speed. And it has ally revive % which is a trash roll thats locked lol

[gray spoke]

depends if you intend to only spam the special activation or use the light chain more, I think it comes down to how you play it

[crude cape]

ive seen some psykers stack stamina too - haven't tried that yet. Was thinking of having 3 +stamina curios + 3 5% HP % perks, etc and trying the blocking build

[dusk sierra]

anyone have a preferred purg build? I was thinking of giving wildfire a spin but I think it's gonna just be overkill

also, I'm thinking of swapping unyielding but idk what for. thoughts?

[crude cape]

its kinda bad, try it if you wanna see tho

[dusk sierra]

yeah ive tried it before

its fun but eh

also kinetic flayer

[crude cape]

@dusk sierra here is my build. My curios are above, here is staff/sword/feats.
my staff is alright - missing 76% burn and t4 flurry. Also unyielding perk isnt ideal. but otherwise its solid.
Deimos +1 stamina kinda meh but not awful since i rock 0 stamina curios.

this is my build if you wanna compare

use it in t5 and t5 high intensity even all the time

[long wharf]

Sell and try again

[crude cape]

@dusk sierra you can see my 3 curios here. But im still editing/working on these. been experimenting as you see 😛

[crude cape]

ranged critical strike chance

the burn critting helps alot

i wish mine was + crit + flak, but unyielding isnt awful for bosses

im no pro tho, just decent. ask questions here a lot, so if someone sees something in my build thats bad advice/noob feel free to say something haha

hope that helps a bit gavo

[dusk sierra]

Gotch ty I appreciate it

Yeah I think I'll just go crit flak

+6 charges and see how it feels

[tropic vigil]

also were mods updated? specifically hadron reroll mod.

not sure how to get them working again

[dusk sierra]

Just download them again and click the .bat patcher

But yes mod's got updated after the hot fix

[gray spoke]

Yes, it is just a .bat patch click and you are good to go

my whole list of mods have been working just fine

[dusk sierra]

w.out redownloading?

[gray spoke]

I have not redownloaded any files from nexus or anything no, I did backup the files in a different folder just in case, but just clicking the .bat patches the mods and for me that has been all

I did it for both the patch itself and the hotfix

just patched it

truly elegant

[ornate hamlet]

zorro

[gray spoke]

good point

You must heal fanatic.. : )

[tropic vigil]

how can i update the .bat file?

oh

i think i figured it out

yea that was way simpler thank you

[ruby berry]

Whats the "best" staff? Currently using VId recon lasgun, but wanna try out a decent staff

[dusk sierra]

preference at this point, honestly

[tropic vigil]

you can probably do malice just fine

[dusk sierra]

want to suppress? Surge (it also does fatty damage w crit)
Bowling ball from across the room? Voidstrike
Purge heretics? Purgatus

apparently trauma is good now but I dont have experience

[tropic vigil]

voidstrike is fun

[ruby berry]

I do wanna stick with the whole "gun-ho" feel of the recon. Was looking between surge and purgatus

[tropic vigil]

10% melee elites was previously carapace, what should i swap it to?

[dusk sierra]

Purgatus might be it then

[ruby berry]

Paired up with illisi mk5 btw

If that matters

[dusk sierra]

try out surge

i forgot the dump stats but make sure crit is up

[tropic vigil]

surge is support oriented, but probably the most useful

makes it really easy for your team to kill adds while you keep everyone safe

[ruby berry]

Got it, thank you both :)
I'll probably get a half-decent one of both before fully committing

[dusk sierra]

yeah def keep at them

I tried a garbage surge that turned me off

[ruby berry]

How's this new one btw, should I change Deflector and/or block efficiency?

[dusk sierra]

oof

[ruby berry]

This was my old

[dusk sierra]

ill be real I've not been needing deflector

idk how blazing spirit would be, if you're running an ascendant blaze build it could be litty

[ruby berry]

Got +4% melee crit chance instead of block efficiency, so thats an improvement

[uneven drift]

Anything better than crit/weakspot dmg, never ever leave it on a weapon.

Leave deflector, slap slaughterer instead of blazing spirit and call it a day.

[ruby berry]

[uneven drift]

Just for future crafts. Weakspot/crit dmg are trash due to calculations. For example you hit 100 as base and 120 as weakspot/crit. So modificator applies to 20 dmg difference and not to whole value. So weakspot/crit dmg always loose to any +armor type dmg even on a weapons with high weakspot/crit dmg.

[spice veldt]

and force swords having no extra crit chance of their own, so it's just psyker's base 5%
and the crit damage multiplier being lowered beyond the first target on normals and the first three on specials

[uneven drift]

Better was to leave block efficiency for synergy with deflector and roll +flak/maniac instead of crit dmg.

[ruby berry]

Ahh right

Do the perk ranks stay the same (a rank 4 perk is always rank 4 when rerolled)?

[uneven drift]

No.

It's rng.

Usually you will roll t3/t4 perks.

[ruby berry]

Just rerolled for a +10% specialist damage (t4) if thats any better

[uneven drift]

Roll +flak/maniac i guess. You can't go wrong with this 2.

[ruby berry]

Got it

[spice veldt]

the rationale being that +flak covers Scab Ragers and Maulers
whilst +Maniac covers Mutants, Dreg Ragers, and a few other specialists

and the bonus with +flak/maniac being quite high at 25% max

[uneven drift]

I was stealing this trappers and dogs as dirty bitch to get penance down, god

Well, they serve different purposes. So yeah, makes sense to move from something you don't like.

[fathom adder]

Surge Staff is basically a melee build until Flak/Carapace shows up or if there are specials needing to be CC'ed

[dusk sierra]

just tried out the build, feels good

also to raise toughness

restore toughness

if you ahve the feat

[pine relic]

Like it or not, Surge is still one of the best weapons against armoured enemies.

[nimble burrow]

no i wont like it

[dusk sierra]

bless

[fast flax]

the best thing is that they teaches players in their characters potential, for me most of the challenges was things i always did by nature, and it feels great that other players are incentivized to learn those techs as well

[fathom adder]

It's almost unbelievably bad against anything that isn't armor though, and sure enough if you take Surge Staff the map will be 90% Dregs

[spice veldt]

it also wont be as great if there's a horde mixed in with the melee elites

[dusk sierra]

have crit and it helps, but yeah you're just suppression at a point

[fathom adder]

I always preferred Trauma, heavy damage and CC against all enemy types

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker is the funny class that does everything

[dusk sierra]

once psyker clicks it clicks but it does take a while

[spice veldt]

another downside is the slow charge speed of 1.98 seconds by default at 80% charge rate

[dusk sierra]

I came from zealot and it was rough lol

[fast flax]

I did do so as well with abit of an experimental brain burst only build with Quicken as the capstone and it was stupid fun, just popping heads left and right and always have a 6 sec cooldown for your nest class ability

[spice veldt]

trauma doesn't have much damage but it does have infinite cleave and a decently sized AoE

[dusk sierra]

staves all have their own blessing pools right (so if I take warp nexus off a voidstrike I cant use it on a purgatus)

[spice veldt]

yeah, they all belong to different families

[dusk sierra]

ugh

[fast flax]

which is odd since you can reskin them with the different staves skins

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/love-family-gif-24307274

[pine relic]

Zealot's life is rough. it's a game full of range enemies so you basically have to keep moving all the time.

[dusk sierra]

oh I mean the adjustment, I love zealot and running in with my flamer and axe/thammer and purging

[rich rose]

what the feats for voidstrike these days are preferred?

[dusk sierra]

just going from balls to the wall melee with literal immortality mode/healing to full

[fast flax]

least you have a button to restore a chunk of your toughness and you have a passive "Plot armor" token each time you take lethal damage

[dusk sierra]

to psyker getting crunched by a crusher

[fast flax]

unlike the Chadryn who don't need plot armor to be stronk

[dusk sierra]

Zealot can literally go from 1 hp to max when plot armor activates

[crude cape]

yep also once you get a feel for when you can dump your stacks with F into a horde, and instantly get them back its juicy. Kills with flamer burn count as the triggerr for getting stacks back on your ascendant blaze feat practicing the light->heavy poke combo on the deimos helps a ton too

[dusk sierra]

yeah, it's nice. Might go back to kinetic shield though

eh idk

I need to block more

[pine relic]

you still got stunned by range enemies a lot, and the toughness is easy to break, if you are not using thy wrath be swift, one bullet can interrupt your F, it's quite annoying

[dusk sierra]

so for Illisi I think flak? idk

[spice veldt]

I personally like +maniac since mutants are more annoying to me than anything else

and they are a bit of a dps check

compared to the other enemies where you can just dodge away from and be fine

[pine relic]

Also when your toughness regenerates from 0, there is a black screen effect, it's absolutely disgusting, and FS refuse to remove it.

[fast flax]

its a bit on the same boat with the Ogryn, if your toughness breaks then somehow your movement from either ults stagger

[pine relic]

That effect not only visually makes you feel dizzy, but you will also lose track of your enemies.

[pine relic]

No wonder most vermintide2 players I knew refuse to play DT.

[crude cape]

ya, thats totally preference. I just like kinectic deflection bc can do some cool things with it rezzing, or blocking/dodging bosses/daeomhosts. Also lets me run no + stamina curios

[dusk sierra]

oh dang didnt think abt rez

[crude cape]

however stamina also makes the peril blocking more efficient

but i dont find it makes a big enough difference to lose HP% or tough%

some people tho go full stamina build + kinectic deflection + deflector blessing. And theres vids of people blocking daemonhosts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_ol8sMQQDc&ab_channel=Pygex

you need +9 stamina for this tho

[dusk sierra]

wat da

[crude cape]

or lots of block efficiency

[dusk sierra]

I saw someone just bonk a DH with thunderhammer zealot, charge hit to wake it up then one more and boom, dead

[crude cape]

i like building for blocking power to save chip dmg aghainst gunners (flame staffs weakness) and when rezzing etc.
But i still rock 2x HP% 1x tough% curios instead of stamina as i dont really ever go for the full on niche block boss build

[nimble burrow]

you can perma kite a daemon with any force sword you dont need any of that crap

[crude cape]

ya exactly

its cool you can do it

tho

its nice to have defelctor + kinectic deflection on deimos + purgatus build tho. As gunners really suck, and you can block and dodge away from even reapers with that

also easy resurrections, i've ressed blocking crushers and a horde

[fast flax]

here was the layout of my build for all the psyker penance challenges, it overall came to keeping a steady flow of warp charges and deliberately being at near max peril, which you kind of wanted to be anyway for one of your challenges. and with 6 stacks of warp charges you always get your ult back for the next "peril test"

[dusk sierra]

ok, feeling good about this one

[crude cape]

thats nice!

[dusk sierra]

now to pray for warp flurry 3

[crude cape]

just note, personally, i dont like illy + purg

too much horde clear overlap

deimos fits purg better

but illy is fantastic for trauma or surge

either sword fits trauma

[dusk sierra]

fair enough

makes sense

I gotta try that

[crude cape]

but if you're just better with illy

[fast flax]

Think so too, its good to have each weapon work around the others weaknesses

[crude cape]

and dont like the poke heavy2 meta on deimos

go illy

you can kill anything with illy still

just gotta dodge back and activate multiple times on ogryns and stuff

[dusk sierra]

first target makes me sad

yeah I like being able to do both

illi powered up is nutso tho

jk found this one lying around

I assume mobility is the dump stat?

[crude cape]

activate, heavy step forward, dodge back, active, heavy step forward repeat is a good combo for Illy in general.
or Heavy->light-block/dodge reset-repeat.
light attack spam into hordes works too

[crude cape]

warp resis, but mobility can be sacrificed a bit

[dusk sierra]

ah gotcha

[crude cape]

but the dodge on these is super strong, dont wanna nerf it too much

[dusk sierra]

damn lol

[crude cape]

low warp resist is actually nice bc when you're low, it helps you stack up for more dmg on warl unleashed

and when you're high warp, the activation wont ever push you over 100% as long as you do it under like 98 i think

or even 99

so warp resist literally doesnt matter then

the only time low warp resist is bad, is when you're like 80% and 1 activation puts you at 100 instead of letting you activate again....but honestly i usually dont activate back to back to back unless im hitting orgryns/maulers etc anyway

[dusk sierra]

also lowkey this channel is so much more chill than the zealot one people get mad heated there

v much enjoy this environment rn

[gray spoke]

no problem

dont you just love these unique third person animations for the las pistol

[long wharf]

what's with your clothing?

mod to change shader parameters?

[long wharf]

oh boy, let's break this perception super quick

SURGE IS BEST STAFF IN GAME FIGHT ME

[past bear]

im assuming i reroll carapace, but to what?

[inland sand]

Trauma for life

i fundamentally do not get the Surge staff

[past bear]

surge staff is a 1-2 target weapon that hits a lot of things. really gotta make sure the first two hits are onto valuable targets

[fresh reef]

Trauma>Purg=Void>Surge

[dusk sierra]

I think there was a argument about head taker versus slaughterer that lasted a couple days on and off

[rich rose]

Hate trauma

[fresh reef]

Why?

[dusk sierra]

When I use surge I almost always just end up being the suppression and support which I don't mind at all but it does have very defined role I feel

[rich rose]

surge is perfect for CC

[spice veldt]

I wouldn't say that trauma is definitively better than purg given how enclosed most maps are

[dusk sierra]

Like you're not going to be obliterating entire crowds but you set up your team to do well

[long wharf]

surge is specifically a team support staff

[dusk sierra]

I haven't tried trauma since like level 5

[spice veldt]

I also would not put purg on the same level as the void or say void is better than surge

[long wharf]

you aren't going to be getting most kills nor dealing most damage

but that's not your job as surge user

your job is to be the last line of defense between the team and the AI director bullshit

and no other weapon in the game does it as well as the surge staff

you help teammates get kills more easily

you protect them from sudden spawns

[past bear]

Its good anti armor so you pick out maulers in a horder

[dusk sierra]

Being able to just stop pretty much any enemy in their tracks is super valuable

[long wharf]

surge+Illisi is my main psyker setup

yeah, every class has ways of dealing with enemies, but only the surge can make sure that when teammates are caught offguard that it doesn't turn into a wipe

and yeah, when I see scabs, I go full charging and rush into rooms

no need to worry about gunners when they're all either dead or stunned

[fresh reef]

Valid points

[inland sand]

I think at this point I would. Easier to maintain a solid curve on Purgatus but Trauma ceiling is higher

[long wharf]

like I said - surge staff is primarily a tactical support weapon

[fresh reef]

I think the scoreboard has just tainted me with green circle syndrome so I automatically don't like playing surge

[long wharf]

you have to be okay being the support to enjoy surge

surge staff needs tweaking anyways

[inland sand]

I do agree with Pfoenix that if you're running Surge then the Illisi is probs your main weapon

[long wharf]

get rid of primary/secondary target nonsense - do full surge staff damage to all targets hit

make charge up increase number of enemies hit as well as increase damage

[past bear]

So make it OP. lol

[long wharf]

not OP at all

I'm not saying make it hit everything

[spice veldt]

surge is not going to be OP by doing full damage to <10 targets

[long wharf]

but upping the target cap from 6 to 10 isn't going to be breaking anything

it'll just make the surge staff finally feel good at doing damage

[past bear]

Its great damage, just not horde damage

its not supposed to

[inland sand]

The Psyker is such a gem of a class. Really does sort the wheat from the chaff

[fresh reef]

Especially since surge doesn't really do any better damage than the others

[spice veldt]

the damage isn't the issue with it anyways

[inland sand]

if yagetme

[long wharf]

considering purge wipes out hordes without hit limit

[spice veldt]

it's the limited target count and non-deterministic targeting

[past bear]

why should every weapon be anti horde?

[long wharf]

doesn't have to be

[spice veldt]

since hordes are the primary threat

e.g., mixed hordes with trash and melee elites

[long wharf]

but the problem with psyker is that it inherently is decent to good at single targets already

[ornate hamlet]

Horde game

[long wharf]

due to BB

hordes are the wipe conditions

not individual disablers

[spice veldt]

mostly when you drop down or come out of an airlock

or team gets split up because of a lack of coordination while kiting

[proud hinge]

Need suggestion, which should I replace?

[spice veldt]

weapons don't have to be anti-horde, but you can see how it gets left behind in certain situations

[long wharf]

specialists

any player not going into a mission with a horde weapon and a single target weapon isn't playing right

even if your horde weapon isn't the best, just having it is important

[proud hinge]

ty

[fresh reef]

I think surge could be made a lot better if it shot out a very thin hitbox instead of the auto-targeting system it has

[proud hinge]

what would I ideally go for?

flak?

[long wharf]

crit chance

purge is all about applying soulblaze stacks

crits apply 2 instead of 1

[proud hinge]

ohhhh

[long wharf]

even with warp nexus, you want as much crit chance as you can get

[gray spoke]

if you are talking about it being red thats the pistol's doing, no mod in action

[gray spoke]

I kind of expected this to be the common opinion, is it not? I know there are alot of purgasus rifthaven flamer lovers in here probably, but they dont exist in my mind

[past bear]

Its probably the best weapon in the game

over all classes

[spice veldt]

if we're comparing over all weapons and all classes, my "best weapon" would go to a melee

[ornate hamlet]

Laspistol is the best psyker weapon

[fresh reef]

Surge stinky ❌❌❌

[proud hinge]

what should I get instead of unarmoured on this?

[ornate hamlet]

maniacmaniacmaniacmaniac

fuck mutants and fuck flamers

[proud hinge]

ty! I wish there were guides out there with like tier lists for perks and blessings

[ornate hamlet]

all my homies hate mutants and flamers

[fresh reef]

25% Maniac. Muties become a non-issue

[gray spoke]

[long wharf]

thems fightin' words

[long wharf]

guides with tiers are pointless and uninformative

[fresh reef]

Bolt Staff better 👍

[long wharf]

it objectively isn't

but it's cute that you think so

[fresh reef]

Ngl I do wonder how surge would handle in Sienna's hands from time to time

Or God-forbid a coruscation staff in the hands of a psyker

[gray spoke]

Tier list's are basically the same as just some random Jo, telling you they thought this weapon felt good. I think it is more for entertainment for sure, if it's a content creator you like listening to I dont think it hurts anyone, some are more informative then others though thats for sure.

[empty mesa]

Got a 19% hp curio with tier 4 sniper damage reduction. Sent it to haydron and it got tier 4 +xp 😭

[gray spoke]

For some it is just a pointer to see what weapon could be fun

[gray spoke]

sniper damage reduction is like going from being completely obliterated to maybe instead being two legs standing up right after the blast

[empty mesa]

better red than dead

granted i like it on oggy

[idle bay]

You only sent to Hadron Curios with 2out 3 perks. Otherwise it's a waste of mats 🙂

Exp/Dokets/Chance for each have 10% of appearance - so raw 30% of bricking. And then each other perk ~5% chance

And then 10% chance for perk being t4

Great odds aren't they?

[past bear]

The longer i play this game the more i like extra ordo dockets....

Going broke trying to roll good items.

[idle bay]

Yup with armory gamble it's actually not that bad at some point..

[long wharf]

enemies that die to the soulblaze tick should count as warp deaths

I don't know for sure that they do, though

should be easy enough to test in the psykanium

[fallow isle]

friendly neighborhood psychos

what blessings do I want on deimos

same as illisi or different?

[ornate hamlet]

ok hear me out on this one

kantrael for psyker

get boosted by warp battery and unleashed

🗿

i am death

[long wharf]

psyker can't have shotgun, too good

[ornate hamlet]

psykers on their way to making the agripinaa shotty's primary actually usable

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/13at6ik/to_veterans_zealots_and_ogryns_what_staff_do_you/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

See surge staff is best staff

👍

[north solstice]

"ime its better to have a psyker that can kill stuff rather than just CC it. Maybe I just havent seen many good surge loadouts and builds in game."

a lot of people also talked about trauma

[olive ember]

Mfw the sharpshooter gets the shotgun and the class with a literal enforcer background doesn’t smh

Eh he just doesn’t get surge staff us the best staff

[north solstice]

i mean

while i love surge staff

and its what i use most of the time

its kinda mid

it has some great qualities

[olive ember]

Smh

Surge staff meta

[north solstice]

i mean id like to see it get buffed a lil bit

in terms of dmg

by a lil bit i mean a lot

[olive ember]

I want it buffed in general

[long wharf]

I'd much rather the sharpshooter not get shotguns either

and only zealot get them

remove lasguns from zealot

[north solstice]

how will zealots be able to see without their flashlights?

[olive ember]

I want my staff to be not useless if more than 10 enemies show up feelsbad man

[long wharf]

through the power of their faith, duh

[north solstice]

lol

[north solstice]

until then bring your illisi

i want them to buff obscures tbh

[olive ember]

Same smh

Obscures forgotten

@spice veldt said his obscures got NTR’ed by his deimos and illisi

🤔 his fantasies are wild

[north solstice]

_>

[gray spoke]

I can have two skulls on this now

[olive ember]

If his obscures is the c#ck and the deimos and illisi are the c#ckers then what’s arcotash

[gray spoke]

they cut my hair

[outer summit]

Very new to psyker. What're the best feat builds? This is where I'm at currently

[crude cape]

best 2 blessings on surge?

[mental rock]

flurry/unleash the warp

[gray spoke]

Holy shit

new hairstyle dropped

[crude cape]

just keep leveling and trying stuff for now, more synergy with what staff you're using etc comes as you get the last tier.
however can never go wrong with
X11X1X as a general

X's are preference/build dependant

many on first tier like 3. 5th tier either 1, or 2. Last tier all 3 are viable and based on build/staff etc

im sorry - i edited it @outer summit I meant X11X1X

[weary palm]

melk y/n? i'm really upset at my staff's blessings

[outer summit]

Ah, alrighty. Thanks for the explanation!

[gray spoke]

is my nose this big?

🤔

[olive ember]

What staff are you running

Your build depends on that

[outer summit]

Right now Purgatus

Not married to it though

Just the best one I have

[crude cape]

ah so you want this

purg is excellent

[faint vault]

3-1-1-2-1-2

Yeah

[olive ember]

Kinetic shield user spotted

[crude cape]

pair it with deimos and learn how to do the light->heavy poke

[faint vault]

But kinetic shield! ❤️

[crude cape]

to take down melee elites easily

[gray spoke]

you should totally build the shredder

[crude cape]

kinetic defelction*** is great

i cant play without it

huge blocks

i dont notice the dmg decrease from kinetic shield

[olive ember]

[crude cape]

you know what, im gonna try kinetic shield this match

[gray spoke]

I use it to get revives consistently for that reason, got a ton of progress towards my 1000 revives because of this talent alone, it really is great, allows you to pull of revives in the middle of hordes no problem

[crude cape]

and see if i like it

will report back

[olive ember]

Who needs kinetic shield smh

Simply don’t get hit

[crude cape]

havent used it in long time

[olive ember]

It’s basically toughness DR

Effectively you are bringing an extra toughness curio

[faint vault]

It's pretty decent. I just never block that long for peril blocking to be worth it. With +3 stamina and block efficiency, I don't notice not running it.

[crude cape]

being able to block a whole horde to res, or tank a big hit when pinned from a horde/elite

is awesome

[crude cape]

also being able to tank ranged with peril + deflection

[olive ember]

Peril blocking is good because it lets you spam push attacks infinitely

You don’t get staggered when out of stam

[crude cape]

ya that too

[olive ember]

Funny revive in middle of horde

And yeah

[crude cape]

why does the push atack seem so buggy tho, half the time my guy swings lol

so i never use it

[faint vault]

But I barely push after the Illisi was added.

[crude cape]

i need to more

[faint vault]

For sure ran it with Antax, but now... meh?

[crude cape]

illy is fun

but deimos my bae with purg staff

[faint vault]

Agreed.

[crude cape]

1 shotting a mutant with a little poke is like

but i swear sometimes it just doesnt do enough dmg, even tho i feel like im at high enough stacks

and he lives with 10%

and grab me

lol so its risky...i often just dodge and then poke

[faint vault]

Hehehe.

[outer summit]

what're the critical stats for purgatus?

[crude cape]

#deimos things

[dawn crypt]

A guy from the hood

[olive ember]

This won’t matter until 30 but you want 76+ burn and pretty much as high as possible cloud radius

Dump stats are damage and I think quell speed iirc

[outer summit]

great

[obtuse moth]

theres an argument for taking peril blocking so you could take something else besides stamina and block efficiency

[faint vault]

That's true, but I like the dr, and I would run block efficiency with deflection too.

[obtuse moth]

do you mean pushes or push attacks? because i never spam pushes and let them recharge since higher stamina % makes for stronger pushes and the recharge rate is so good on psyker. keeping up slaughterer stacks and other modifiers helps make the pushes more effective too, so i do upkeep in between pushes

[long wharf]

peril blocking benefits from both stamina and block efficiency

[faint vault]

Yup

[inland sand]

Peril block is love

Peril block is life

[long wharf]

if you're going to peril block, and let's be honest there's no reason to not, you definitely want a stamina curio and some block efficiency somewhere

[inland sand]

Block Efficiency is mvp on Psyker

[faint vault]

I forgot my other reason. I play at high peril for quietude and unleashed. Usually in the red.

[obtuse moth]

33% toughness damage reduction would be a reason. and i run peril block fine without stamina or block efficiency all the time

you don't really need more than base peril block to get off a revive with psyker's toolkit

[inland sand]

i don't think u need stamina but u get huge value from BE on it

especially vs ranged

[obtuse moth]

it still wont save you from flames or ranged interrupting your revives

[long wharf]

nobody is saying it will

[faint vault]

Ranged would interrupt anyways

[inland sand]

who cares about flames as psyker? u have like a million ways to interrupt and kill flamers

[obtuse moth]

stamina actually scales better than block efficiency afaik for peril blocking

[weary palm]

psyker is the one class i block a lot on because it's such good value with deflector and the feat

[inland sand]

probably the best class vs flamers tbh

[long wharf]

up through 3 extra stamina, yes

[obtuse moth]

noth: it still wont save you from flames or ranged interrupting your revives

as in, you are channeling a revive and then flames get cast under your feet

[long wharf]

after that, it depends on how much block efficiency you're stacking and how much extra stamina

[inland sand]

can't say I ever really find myself in that situation tbh

[little salmon]

If I have Slaughterer on a Deimos, can I transfer that blessing over to a Illisi? Or would I have to earn Slaughterer on the Illisi?

[feral verge]

it's transferable

across all force swords

[little salmon]

Thank you

[feral verge]

np

[jaunty moth]

what do you think?

[feral verge]

swap blazing spirit out for slaughterer

blazing spirit is a bit of a meme

[jaunty moth]

yea when i get it i planned too

i dont have it right now

[feral verge]

because everything dies before you get to see shit catch fire

[jaunty moth]

yea

its just best this i got atm

[feral verge]

if you want the ultimate dmg illisi, i reccomend slaughterer and unstable power

on an illisi with low warp resistance

[jaunty moth]

kk

[feral verge]

something like this

[jaunty moth]

im gonna have to get used to it cause im so use to my mk5 axe

[feral verge]

unstable power stacks 4x, for up to 20% more pwoer at 80% peril

(the description for it is bad)

[jaunty moth]

i got ya

[weary palm]

mash m1 forever

illisi is braindead simple

or heavies

[jaunty moth]

yup

but im so used to block attacking with the axe lol

[weary palm]

i find i don't use warp attack ever on it

[jaunty moth]

i cannot for the life of me bring myself to take this curio off hahaha

[feral verge]

i reccomend you do

[jaunty moth]

lmao

[feral verge]

dmg resist vs muties and bombers are nigh useless

[hollow flower]

Bombers doesn't literally nothing, right?

[feral verge]

and wounds are a crutch imo

[feral verge]

afaik it only affects bomber's melee kick lmao

[hollow flower]

I think wounds are good if you are not yet comfortable with the difficulty you are playing on, if you have lag or bad internet, or if you just tend to not play very super carefully.

[vestal rose]

i got kicked by a bomber yesterday
im ashamed ;-;

[hollow flower]

It's generally much better to just not get capped very much in the first place

[jaunty moth]

i just have the wounds for just in case situations id rather have it n not need it then need it and not have it.

[weary palm]

this ruins my life

[hollow flower]

Generally, on damnation, if people start going down a lot, there's a pretty good chance the team will wipe anyway, because the game is throwing so much shit at you. That's just my take. I'm not so sure how it stacks on lower difficulties.

[jaunty moth]

so whats the go to for curios now ive been away for a little bit?

[ionic frost]

the more wounds ppl have, the more often they seem to die =)

[hollow flower]

I generally run 3x toughness for vet, 3x health for others. I think there's a case for +3 stamina on some curios if want to play more aggressively.

I like +3 stamina curios on vet if i'm playing more of a run and run approach

[weary palm]

I'm a HP/HP/stam enjoyer on everything

[hollow flower]

For the perks, sniper and gunner resist is solid. Stamina and toughness regen is more situational but can be good.

[jaunty moth]

yea i have crap health curios on my psyker

[weary palm]

HP/toughness regen/stam regen

[vestal rose]

2x stamina cause its fun
1x health so the stray burster doesn't send you immediately to the shadow realm

[hollow flower]

@jaunty moth I'd also ask, how do you prefer to play?

Are you going more of a fast paced melee Psyker, or staying in the back and doing crowd control and killing elites?

I always go 2x health, 1x stamina. For my melee Psyker build, i like to have stamina regen, block efficiency, and toughness regen as the perks. For my more ranged focus psyker I may just have more health/toughness.

I wouldn't worry about curios too much since you just don't have that much control over how they turn out. Over time you can eventually get them the way you want.

[jaunty moth]

i can play many ways but i prefer using voidstrike staff and bb but i find i always end up being a little aggressive anyways lmao

so i mainly like to stay back and crowd clear while getting priority targets

[hollow flower]

I'd say in that case, you may just want to add health and resist for snipers/gunners

[muted obsidian]

Feat recommendations for Surge staff? Just got a really good one from hadron for once.

[jaunty moth]

i have some decent curios they are just all wounds lmao

kk

cause this is what i have on now

[hollow flower]

Personally i would like 10% more health over 1 wound