psyker-class

[cyan notch]

u can play melee focus or ranged focus or a bit of both

[pine relic]

Melk rarely offers good weapons anyway. I still have 8000 left.

[blissful mural]

its all about getting the good blessing from him for me

[fresh steeple]

that's not what I mean. I mean that those two commissions are stupid easy, so why not reroll just for ease of completion regardless of how many credits you have

but I guess if you genuinely don't care about the credits, then it explains why you wouldn't bother rerolling

[pine relic]

Yes, I have only bought two weapons from Melk so far. If he actually has anything good to sell in the future, I can still afford them.

[fresh steeple]

um... how long have you been playing that you've only bought two weapons total?

[fresh steeple]

bruh. I refuse to accept that you've been so unlucky with Melk that you haven't even found "buy them for the blessing" weapons

are you just not bothering to buy weapons for eating blessings?

[pine relic]

It's not my fault that the dude sells garbage laser guns all day long.

[pine relic]

I got most of my T4 blessings from playing quick matches.

[fresh steeple]

kk

long as you've got 'em

[pine relic]

He sold me a good surge staff and a shredder, I think that's it.

Look at his offer, it's been like this for months.

[north cradle]

Based

Spent over a thousand hours and said Melk's got shit

[dusk sierra]

rolled a fatty axe for my psyker 👀

although might just harvest brutal momentum idk

[crude cape]

ayyy, this is a pretty nice base right? (one on right i use now, want to improve it)

[safe crystal]

They are very similar to each other, wouldnt be a big upgrade

[cold geode]

also you want burn to be 76% or higher so you can get the extra tick of burning

[crude cape]

oh damn

i didnt know that

i rolled it just cause fuck it

its marginal

but it should be an upgrade when i replace run n gun?

perks kinda suck, do i keep carapce of unyielding?

[safe crystal]

Keep unyielding, purg does no damage to carapace

[crude cape]

ah rightr

and ranged crit is my best reroll choice?

[safe crystal]

Crit/flak

[crude cape]

ya flak would be nice

crit is more general tho, since i have a bad perk think crit is best

but can always use reroll mod to swap and try out

[safe crystal]

Unyielding isnt that bad, more damage on things you can stack max burn on is decent

[crude cape]

ah true

i usually BB or deimos bosses tho

but i guess reapers are unyielding arent they?

i usually bb those too lol

[safe crystal]

Yup, and all bosses excluding assassination targets

You could go for max stack of burn -> change into melee -> when burn about to run out, refresh

[crude cape]

good call

im not super knowledgeable about the burn mechanic

tbh

whats max stacks, how fast do they stack etc

is there a way to know when im at it

[safe crystal]

If you want to be absolutely sure, one and a half charge is max stacks

Crits change this, of course

[crude cape]

ok, marginal, not 76% burn...ill keep rolling whites looking for it

but old on left, new on right. Gonna eat the t3 war flurry

i dont have a t4 flurry yet

[spice veldt]

you can see the max stacks that the purg can apply as well as how fast it can apply stacks if you hover over the burn stat while inspecting

[crude cape]

so ill eat the old one, but worth i think this is a marginal, but strict upgrade

[spice veldt]

wrack & ruin and Ascendant Blaze have a cap of 31 stacks iirc

[crude cape]

14 max

[near wyvern]

Yes

[near wyvern]

Getting the roll with 15 max stacks is around 11% DPS increase over 14 max stacks when you get to the max stacks and stay there.

[crude cape]

can you not get 16?

but ok ty, ill try to look for one!!

this is the best ive made in 200 hours however lmao

[dusk sierra]

ugh, if only I could change charge rate for quell speed

[near wyvern]

You can if:

• you crit on the last application when you have a staff with 15 max stacks
• you get a weapon with 100% burn which is currently not possible

[crude cape]

gotcha

1 more question, how do you guys handle hordes with deimos

if you have to

i find myself dodging, pushing, and light attack spamming

[dusk sierra]

heavy attack 1-2 then push

[near wyvern]

I push and then switch to my trauma

[dusk sierra]

I think?

isnt heavy a sweep

[crude cape]

but is Heavy -> light -> block cancel combo better?

i just find the rhythm hard to get down for that combo for some reason

im playing mostly damnation

[dusk sierra]

actually on that note what do you look for on a trauma stave

hmmm

good question, I havent practiced in a minute

[crude cape]

haha ya i do same mostly with purg, but sometimes you gotta chop, yknow?

[dusk sierra]

illisi too damn good

[near wyvern]

You wanna top the DPS meter or actually help the team while doing competitive damage?

[crude cape]

especially with purg, certain open areas you get surrounded to dangerous to go full piss mode

[dusk sierra]

help the team lol idgaf about scoreboard

[near wyvern]

In that case I push spam and dodge spam to reposition.

[crude cape]

ya, i love illy, but is redundant with flame staff.
Im just wondering if my light attack spamming with a heavy poke here or there on deimos is fine for hordes when forced

[crude cape]

ya, i just sometimes wanna chop tbh

haha

[dusk sierra]

ah tru tru

[spice veldt]

perkwise, I like +Unarmoured on trauma to reliably one-shot Dreg Bruisers (450 hp) since I don't often manage my peril or warp charges
+Flak is my other choice for gunners and shotgunners, though you could go for something else that you think needs hurting

[near wyvern]

Ok, then this is the best one for that but it's extremely roll dependant:

• near (but preferably) max charge rate and blast radius
• +5% crit chance on perk
• +flak, +unarmoured or +infested on the other perk
• Warp Nexus 4 (it's a must)
• Blazing Spirit 3 (for this)

Build is 311112

[dusk sierra]

ty, have these 2 rn, helpful info ty

blazing spirit 3 sounds lit

[near wyvern]

My guide has peaked. It's only downfall from this now

[dusk sierra]

nice

wow this is a nice guide

[crude cape]

these are the curios im using Purgatus staff + deimos, 311112
My next investment of resources probably needs to go to min/maxing these a bit better.
What should i have i dont, what do i need to get rid of perk-wise?

[near wyvern]

There is a link for it in the pinned messages here for convenience

[dusk sierra]

pog

ty

[cyan notch]

you dont need to block cancel

it chains into itself

[vestal rose]

are US players extra bad?
its like playing on heresy over here I wanna die

[spice veldt]

possibly

[ornate hamlet]

omw to the extra 1%

I got 2 more curios to go btw

This is to me what the camelid racing is to the savant

Absolutely riveting.

[final scarab]

what is the highest weapon rating you guys saw yet?

[late yew]

hmmm

[rapid bear]

Is the tier 4 "Bloodthirsty" considered any good on the force swords? Deimos in particular?

[late yew]

worth?

[late yew]

there is only 1 tier of it

And no

[rapid bear]

Well that's an easy answer, thanks!

[safe crystal]

I'd say its worth just for flurry. The perks are kinda eh

[late yew]

yeah, i gave it up for blessing

[worthy moon]

worth upgrading?

[late yew]

I have almsot perfect staff for it

[hearty python]

base? high 370s I think.

[late yew]

decent enough

But generally you should look for 370+

or 360+

[worthy moon]

I dont have an Illisi and looking to make an 'ok' one while I fasm for a better one

[ionic needle]

Decided to use my last character slot on leveling another psyker because bored. Level 6, joined heresy and nobody else tagged along so me and three bots. We made it 1/3 into the map pretty easily. Then two players joined and in two minutes we were dead. Rip.

[hearty python]

I was going to say, swap that sprint for flak or maniac and that's a fine staff. Could use better charge rate but otherwise quite good.

[near wyvern]

Any Illisi is good

Ideally you want low warp resist, mobility not that important and everything else high

Put Slaughter on it

[worthy moon]

Time to farm 🙂

[austere estuary]

stop peeping my items please

what do we want on deimos btw?

trying to decide between consecrating these two:

leaning towards the maniacs/deflector one

[ionic needle]

Yes, that one is better

[austere estuary]

looking forward to trying it once I've got the plasteel, but also a bit afraid as illisi has absolutely become a crutch for me

[shadow wigeon]

Deimos goes well with Purg, it's a natural fit

[steel flame]

oh hadron has been very very nice to me tonight

nearly perfect

[late yew]

Did she peg you?

specialist for flak?

[steel flame]

id say yes

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah

[late yew]

holy shit

I was going to switch whatever second blessing i got for deflector 2

But Hadron decided to be nice as well

[steel flame]

wow shes really dolin out the goodies tonight

[late yew]

Which perk to replace though

[shadow wigeon]

I have rolled 10 T4 in the last 24 hours, almost makes me think something is up.

my buddy rolled 6 T4's today

what's the deal

[steel flame]

id say infested for flak

or maniac

[shadow wigeon]

Flak you're going to be hitting all the time, maniac not so often

[spice veldt]

i'd change +unarmoured, though you'll want to see if you can hit the one-shot weakspot breakpoint on poxwalkers

[late yew]

Well it is my first lucky roll in the last few days

[late yew]

Like when?

If you mean those helmetless scabs, their heads are unarmored

[spice veldt]

mutants enforce a bit of a DPS check on you and flak enemies can be reliably run away from

I vote for +maniac & +infested (should prob check if you can one-shot poxwalkers with your minimum cleave damage with headshots and at what peril%)

[late yew]

my previous illi also was nice

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, TBH I have moved to maniac on alot of items lately, but it is still not used that often.

[shadow wigeon]

lots of maulers around now

[late yew]

and that previous one was my very first crafted item btw

So i was very lucky

[late yew]

i use BB for them

[steel flame]

i love wrack and ruin cause i can just melt croweds with all the maulers and shit around

[late yew]

it competes with amazing feat though

also most staves can deal with crowds around maulers just fine

void knocks them down

[spice veldt]

if you're using surge/void (non-blazing spirit), the ability to deal with densities with wrack & ruin is probably nice

[steel flame]

ive using kb with lacerate knife and blaze pinning shredder and between bleed and wrack and ruin i can get dot over 2000 per tick with ramp up from the shredder

dont even have to shoot ogryns anymore once i tag em a few times with the knife

along with cerbral laceration

[late yew]

knife user -> no point in reading

[steel flame]

lol

fair enough

😛

[willow oyster]

im going to assume you also use ascended blaze

[steel flame]

i use kinetic barrage

[willow oyster]

with wild fire?

[steel flame]

nope with flayer

[willow oyster]

that is a very strange gun psyker build

[ionic needle]

deflection with knife? cool

[willow oyster]

its like it wants to be psyker except its dot and doesn't have the crowd control of an actual soul blaze build

[steel flame]

its a very nice all around build with the power to delete everything in the game

[spice veldt]

oh it's fucking hunting grounds now

[steel flame]

flayer procs with lacerate kill mutants in like 2 secoinds

[willow oyster]

sadly that's circumstantial

[late yew]

no?

Flayer has 10 second cooldown

and it does like 30% of mutant hp

or was 15 second

[willow oyster]

well now it does 50% more damage

[steel flame]

i could run tranquility for more bb or warp unleashed for more overkill damage, but having the ability deal with groups when my shredder is low or i just dont need it is nice, good alpha strike

[willow oyster]

cuz lacerate

[late yew]

so 45-50

[willow oyster]

p much

then combine the awfully high head shot damage

[late yew]

But i don't understand why lacerate affects it?

[willow oyster]

brain burst targets the head of enemies

which is why bursting maulers = carapace

and not flak

and the way blessings work is that it is with the active weapon

unless it doesn't otherwise

[steel flame]

shredder fucks mutants up on a flayer lacerate proc

[willow oyster]

which is why pinning fire on the auto pistol is good for gun lsykers running the funny fire build

[steel flame]

and i can get it to proc almost every time with how fast the fire rate is

[formal ridge]

just lost an assassination mission on final stage and trying to make sense of what i could have done better... back to back dogs got me

trauma staff

[steel flame]

#dontgethit

dogs are a bitch sometimes

sometimes theres just nothin you can do

[formal ridge]

my teammates didnt help fast enough either

but its my fault

[willow oyster]

so are you trying to tell us that lacerate operates regardless of whether or not the knife is out

[late yew]

not anymore

[steel flame]

true

push push push

[willow oyster]

because how does the autopistol proc lasceraye

[formal ridge]

wish i knew how to push dog s 100% or could practice

[willow oyster]

unless your trying to say you hit it first then shot it

[steel flame]

Cerebral laceration feat t3

[willow oyster]

with flayer happenin-

[formal ridge]

is there a mod to practice hounds?

[steel flame]

25% more damage to enemies hit with a BB

[willow oyster]

25

and I see

[formal ridge]

i had no stacks at start of stage so my bb didnt one shot the hounds

[willow oyster]

mixed up lacerate on the knife

with the feet

[steel flame]

its a bit confusing yes

[formal ridge]

ix there a way to always one shot houunds with zero stacks

[steel flame]

not really no

not with a trauma

[ionic needle]

Maybe deimos h2? No clue really

[formal ridge]

if i do cerecral lacerations can i 1 tap them

[steel flame]

diemos L1 with a flayer proc will oneshot

[willow oyster]

id argue that it's not syntax because lascerate is literally named lascerate, the blessing

[ionic needle]

Cerebral lacerations doesn't apply to the first BB

[formal ridge]

after. a bb, LMB ?

[willow oyster]

and cerebral lacerations can just be cerebral

[formal ridge]

i mean bb then lmb

ill have to test in osyk

[steel flame]

the point is the extra 25% damage the shredder is now doing to the mutants face

mutant go poof

[dapper grotto]

do yall know if essence harvest (1-1, 30% toughness on warp charge over 5 seconds) functions on quicken (6-1, doubled warp charges from all sources + reduced cooldown for eating warp charges)

[ionic needle]

I know, I was replying to the other guy about dogs and oneshots

[willow oyster]

yes

[steel flame]

aight so. quick answer is no

[ionic needle]

I'm running aura on my shredder build, lacerations feels too niche

[steel flame]

it will not apply twice,

with quicken

[willow oyster]

my friend lied

[ionic needle]

Gaining another stack while WA is active will only refresh duration, not make it stronger

[willow oyster]

^

[dapper grotto]

not even make it 60% over 10 seconds

?

[steel flame]

its super nice for bosses, bulwarks reapers, mutants, anything that happens to be charging the front of a pack, usually ragers and maulers,

free 25 % damage

[willow oyster]

it would be 60% over 5 seconds if my friend was not capping and not on a placebo

[formal ridge]

how do yall personally deal with hounds with zero stacks?

[ionic needle]

Yeah but all of that's so easy to kill with shredder or BB anyway. Compared to 5s skill recharge to everyone in coherency on all of your elite/special kills it doesn't feel worth it.

[willow oyster]

otherwise the quickest answer is indeed no, even if circumstantially it is possible

[dapper grotto]

dodge + stab with saber

[formal ridge]

so just whip out melee?

[willow oyster]

so the only answer I have for you is thay you should just see for yourself, as I couldn't have checked for thw last 6 days

its not a bad talent, in fact I'd argue it as a viable build definer

[formal ridge]

im sick of shredder psyker but its so good lol

[dapper grotto]

taking damage is against my religion though lol, the god emperor protects

[formal ridge]

so easy to kill threats

[willow oyster]

man it ain't that hard to get shot at

[dapper grotto]

that is what i do yes, because one brain burst doesn't kill dogs even with 6 stacks and max peril with both perks at max difficulty

[formal ridge]

flamer? dead. hound? dead

[ornate hamlet]

Dog come, dog bonk on geometry, dog get hit by sword

[formal ridge]

i swear i can one shot dogs with bb

[dapper grotto]

what diff

[dapper grotto]

yeah, true

[steel flame]

push then then stab stab. on shredder build i just shoot them because shredder will stop them with only a single bullet, Diemos l1 followed up by H2 is a guaranteed kill as long as you can follow the dog as he dodges after the first hit. Voidstaff can knock back dogs with a quarter charge.

[formal ridge]

damn

[willow oyster]

hounds get one shot heresy below if you wanna go on a schizo rampage

[ornate hamlet]

Man cannot one-shot damnation dogs without divine aid

[willow oyster]

with earp battery

[formal ridge]

100% peril, 4 stacks

warp unleashed

ima go test inpsyk right now

[dapper grotto]

im on damnation

1639 damage

with warp unleashed, max peril, 6 stacks

[formal ridge]

theyr sre 1500 hp right

[dapper grotto]

dogs have 1800 hp on damn

[willow oyster]

not fun fact, if you brain burst a flame at 0% peril with the lvl bb talent at 6 warp charges, the flamer survives with exactly 7 hp left

[steel flame]

i would focus less on trying to oneshot dogs and more on being able to stun or stop their lunges with whatever build you happen to have

[formal ridge]

i need to install the mod to pratice fighting them inpsyk

[dapper grotto]

A + spacebar 4head

anyways the other day i hit a sniper for exactly 499 damage and forgot about him, which indirectly caused a team wipe

[ornate hamlet]

Fuck practice, just bait them around corners and spam lights

[willow oyster]

suggesting dodging hounds is like suggesting a client in v2 to push assassin mid air than to dodge it

[steel flame]

technically you can oneshot dogs on damnation if you have cerebral lacerations, and flayer procs on a bb

[ionic needle]

Block push is more consistent, corners are the most consistent though

[safe crystal]

Just do it 4head

[willow oyster]

hell no

[steel flame]

but thats like 4 layers of rng,

[formal ridge]

ph god youre right

[ionic needle]

No need for lacerations to do that

[formal ridge]

i cant one shot it

[steel flame]

i like overkill

[dapper grotto]

yep

[formal ridge]

flayer prob confuseed me

[steel flame]

wdym?

[dapper grotto]

welcome to hey screw psykers

[formal ridge]

i t houht i one shotted

[dapper grotto]

yep

now press F to pay respects to the warp

[formal ridge]

oh i can bb then ascendant blaze

[ornate hamlet]

In the meantime, wow, the recon takes two years to reset recoil for sustained

[formal ridge]

dot kill, but at 4 stacks?

[dapper grotto]

iirc ascendant blaze will also "one shot" banelings

[ornate hamlet]

I made the serious mistake of thinking the gun with zero recoil had a fast recoil reset

[formal ridge]

lol 4 stacks doesnt do it

unless i pinning fire

[dapper grotto]

also is there any good blessings on the dueling sabre mk5

[ornate hamlet]

Rampage and shred, pretty much

You could try rending instead of shred too

[dapper grotto]

no shred though

also, how does one hit multiple enemies with a singular strikedown attack

[ornate hamlet]

You don't

They forgot this is a horde game when designing the sabers

[dapper grotto]

oh

can i get thrust on it please

[formal ridge]

6 stacks does it... ok

[ornate hamlet]

My honest recommendation is to not use it at all

[formal ridge]

bewtter than nothing

[dapper grotto]

i like being fast though

which is why i use it

[sterile vale]

Depends on the weapon, Antax V can hit multiple with its strikedown attacks. Doesn't usually deal huge amounts of damage to the other targets though

[formal ridge]

but my whole point is without stacks ahahah

[dapper grotto]

its also gotten me out of otherwise very sticky situations

[formal ridge]

f this

[ornate hamlet]

You're gonna notice the nasty shortcomings when you're taking two years to kill a horde because you kill one enemy at a time and are lucky if it's on a single hit

[safe crystal]

You can always just take the dog out for a walk with your psychic leash

[steel flame]

lol

[dapper grotto]

press f pull out flame staff

[formal ridge]

ill call the dog whisperer

[dapper grotto]

profit

[ornate hamlet]

Now if dueling saber had something like brutal momentum and slaughterer...

And better hitboxes

[safe crystal]

Team mates might not appreciate too long walks though

[steel flame]

that would be a monster

[ornate hamlet]

New bully tactic unlocked

Will right-click dog down the abyss

[dapper grotto]

thrust on duelling sabre

it just makes sense

[ornate hamlet]

Thrust would be interesting for the psychopaths who actually use their melee to take down single enemies

[dapper grotto]

can already 3 shot headshot muties, and two shot headshot dogs (quite close to one shot)

with heavy stab

so might as well make it even better

allow me to one shot dogs

and pretty much everything else that isn't armoured or an ogryn

[steel flame]

actually you can oneshot dogs in damnation

special on diemos does 1800 damage to them on a headshot

[dapper grotto]

im not talking about the deimos though

:D

[dapper grotto]

yeah i know, you can also one shot muties to the head

but then again

also even without the special you can do it

[steel flame]

i just forgot about the deimos special when talkin about doggo oneshots

[dapper grotto]

lol

[ornate hamlet]

The enemies that I actually would want to kill with the dueling sword are also the ones that interrupt my attacks

[steel flame]

my favorite part is that even if you miss the headshot the dog rotates towards you and the final burst gets a headshot anyways XP

[ornate hamlet]

And if I go a weight class up, they're the ones where the sword outright bounces off of the helmet

[formal ridge]

one shot with melee kinda defeats the point of avoiding their pounce

does the demos require a certain build to do that

[steel flame]

no

you can do it from no stacks and no feats

[spice veldt]

even if you don't one-shot them, your attack will knock em anyways

[steel flame]

tldr nothing can oneshot them from range as psyker, just learn to stabb em and stuff

[spice veldt]

just spam push and whack their asses if they survive the first hit and there's a horde around

[rocky root]

Soo if dualing swords are “trash” what melee weapon do you all suggest?

[spice veldt]

deimos if you want the mobility

[steel flame]

EMBRACE THE KNIFE

[spice veldt]

only downside is that force swords have a bugged 1.5 block cost whereas duellies have 0.5 (or 0.33 if it's an 80% def MK5 duellie)

[dapper grotto]

use your staff as a melee weapon

best melee in the game for committing instant death

[rocky root]

And my knife for ranged?

[dapper grotto]

just chuck it

[rocky root]

Lol

[dapper grotto]

hehe staff go whack

[spice veldt]

using your melee for ranged isn't a totally ridiculous idea

though I personally wouldn't use the knife for that except for skirmishes

[dapper grotto]

eviscerator

[steel flame]

antax with brutal momentum push attacks is a very safe weapon. deimos annihilates every single target under the sun and has very serviceable horde clear with slaughter , and illi fs will delete hordes better than a power sword, knife has great mobility and defense and good killing power

[rocky root]

Thanks!

[formal ridge]

ppl say you can push attack a dog but every time i just get pounced, maybe you can "attack" them but not "push"

[rocky root]

Although i do love my swashbuckling psyker. I am finding it lacking.

[steel flame]

dont push attack dogs, just push

[formal ridge]

they think their push attack does something but its just the follow up

[ornate hamlet]

Once you use illisi and antax/rashad, everything else for psyker feels underwhelming

[spice veldt]

pushing works but the push hitbox only lingers for an instant

[ornate hamlet]

Even deimos is not really something for me because once I played illisi I learned to hate my camera locking each time I use the special

[formal ridge]

ok ill try push right now , no push attack

didnt work

[ornate hamlet]

Also the eviscerator taught me that the game chooses what it wants with the special attack camera

[steel flame]

with diemos you want to use l1 h2 combo and not special

[spice veldt]

it's more reliable to just melee dogs instead of pushing them

[ornate hamlet]

And what it wants is stupid

[spice veldt]

attack hitboxes linger longer than pushes

[steel flame]

fair

[formal ridge]

yeah, I just need to swing

[spice veldt]

I'm not sure how long the deimos l1 lingers though

[ornate hamlet]

Oh yeah, I saw people do the turbofunny with a single heavy on mutants

[spice veldt]

I can reliably hit hounds out of the air with the obscurus l1 and illisi attacks

[formal ridge]

lol light doesnt work, ill try heavy

i guess stagger of attack is req

i didnt think of that

[ornate hamlet]

I just feel bad grabbing a weapon to completely ignore its special, though I guess that kind of is how I play power sword too

Got slaughterer and BM on my power sword and I'm really not caring for the special

[formal ridge]

i hear my attack hit, but the dog still pounces me

maybe im doing it too late

[ornate hamlet]

I wouldn't count on Fatshark fixing dogs tbh

[formal ridge]

it worked!,,,,,!!!!!

[ornate hamlet]

They do feel better, but I don't trust just straight up dodging sideways

[formal ridge]

I can use the dueling sword poke (h1) to poke the dog in the air

mark 2

fuck yeah

[spice veldt]

remember to attack earlier when in multiplayer games to account for ping

[formal ridge]

h2 fuckz me lol, inly h1 works

i have to br sure to reset

before the pounce

[spice veldt]

another thing that helps is dodging backwards

since you'll temporarily match the speed of the hound

[steel flame]

see for me it depends, is that special helping for this specific build or are the normal attacks what i need, i have one build where i use the diemos special and one where i dont at all,

[spice veldt]

you completely give up the hope of dodging sideways if you choose to dodge backwards, so hopefully you smack the hound out of the air

[formal ridge]

thanks guys

[spice veldt]

is very sad when I dodge backwards and I miss

[formal ridge]

you improved my play ten fold lol

[steel flame]

same with illi, i have a build where i spam the special and one where i just use it to get slaughter going

[spice veldt]

at least for the illisi, the special is about twice better than doing normal attacks

though part of that speed is probably just having the initial damage for slaughterer

[steel flame]

half the time the special is total overkill for everything in front of you XP

i had one match where i had 300k overkill damage from the illi speical. like wtf

[formal ridge]

sometimes geometry precludes anything but stand and. attack

[spice veldt]

yup

i have 0 trust in dodging because I always used to just dodge into an enemy I forgot about

[formal ridge]

geometry, trash mobs nearby, peril

[spice veldt]

so instead of paying more attention to my surroundings, I'd rather just smack the shit out of the doggo

[formal ridge]

im going to go on a field day now

killing every hound

[spice veldt]

and getting a hit on the dog usually guarantees its death with either the initial hit or followup so no one else can steal the kill

have fun

[near wyvern]

Assuming enemies are completely stacked which they are not

[spice veldt]

das true

[late yew]

They are fixed currently

[formal ridge]

does traumu proc kinetic flayer

[late yew]

everything does

[formal ridge]

sweet

just didnt want to make a mistake lol

its hard to see what happens to the shit i explode

[crude cape]

thoughts on my trash can super hero psychic outfit?

[safe crystal]

Im using almost exactly the same outfit right now lmao

Im running around with a XII, cosplaying a sniper

[crude cape]

i just want a cape LOL

[late yew]

cringe

[late yew]

Lasgun sniper

even more cringe

I want actual sniper class though

Rattling

[safe crystal]

I just want to be cringe

[crude cape]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-face-ok-cute-baby-gif-14541209

[late yew]

I am gonig to have same outfit btw

different helmet probably

[safe crystal]

I would've used the one with funny goggles, but its not the same colour as the cape

[spice veldt]

i'd use the cape outfit if the bracers weren't so big

[dusky crane]

Superheroin.

[placid stratus]

If we're talking drip, here's what I got (Knife solely used for the pose)

[pine relic]

Shirtless is the way

[calm depot]

"hold's up collar with mind"

[placid stratus]

More like

"Uh oh where'd my belt line go"

[hollow dove]

Does surge do anything on Trauma Staff?

[spice veldt]

only on the LMB

[hollow dove]

Woof.

[spice veldt]

ruff indeed

[hollow dove]

It is sort of bonkers that the blessing trees are unique for each stave. I mean I get it, but woooooof.

[spice veldt]

all of our staffs belong to different families

the problem is that no variants of each families exist

[hollow dove]

Can I play a trash LMB ONLY staff build?

Just imagine it

The blueness of the orbs.

[spice veldt]

maybe on lower difficulties where your LMB one-shots groaners/poxwalkers

sounds miserable

the staff LMB isn't that terrible

just has the misfortune of being a projectile weapon with meh travel time and a meh fire rate

[hidden crystal]

This is a big part of why I like the 3rd person mod - way better peripheral vision.

[hollow dove]

Yeah I agree -- I think I'm just feeling a little annoyed with staves on my psyker, it really feels like Trauma and sometimes Purg are the only meaningful choices. I like surge plenty but honestly with a skilled team it's hard to feel it's exceedingly valuable and too binary, would rather a touch less control and more damage. Voidstrike seems like it could be okay if you had the perrrrfect kind of thing going on, otherwise it feels like a budge trauma IMO.

[spice veldt]

that's about my evaluation for the staffs

the lack of a burst single-target DPS staff also bugs me quite a lot

[cyan moth]

Lightning staff is my go to reguardless of team set up

Being able to kill crushers and armored in two charges can be immensely powerful

The stun is also incredible

[placid stratus]

I've personally just been running a BB build with purgatus and deimos fs. Actually a lot of fun

[spice veldt]

I've had many games before where the team just lacked the DPS to kill groups of melee elites and we get squished into a corner, so I just bring the trauma staff

I also much prefer the trauma's charge speed (1.3 seconds) over surge staff's (1.98 seconds)

[austere estuary]

oh thanks for doing this, I'd wondered

[dusk pagoda]

I've been running Surge with an Illisi. So fun.

[spice veldt]

with the caveat that's with enemies stacked

that was also with a t4 slaught + t4 unstable power + warp unleashed

though unstable power shouldn't have changed any breakpoints since warp unleashed is enough to push the illisi's minimum cleave damage over 150 damage, allowing you to two-shot 19 poxwalkers (with max t4 slaught stacks)

[dusk pagoda]

Me with my Slaughterer 1 Illisi 😅

Deflector 3 though

[austere estuary]

I've got a pretty good illisi, exorcist 2+ slaughterer 4, and good stats, but struggling to get a great deimos roll

[placid stratus]

I got a deimos with shred (I think) and 10% weak spot damage, so

I'm boolin'

[spice veldt]

in case you are not privy, weakspot damage is not that good for two reasons.

• The bonus is quite low. It's 10% compared to the other damage perks which offer up to 25% (albeit against certain armour types).
• It doesn't actually give 10% damage as you might expect. If you deal 100 base damage and 230 base damage, +10% weakspot damage will make your weakspot deal 243 damage instead of the 253 damage that you expect. In other words, +10% weakspot damage is actually a +5.6% increase in net damage on weakspot hits for the force swords (at 80% finesse) in particular

[placid stratus]

Well it's not like I can just change it, cuz the other stat was worse

Besides, for how I do it, I think it works just fine for me

Flak and unarmored die in one hit on heresy, that's the only thing that I want

[light quail]

holy shit I was NOT as rusty on psyker as I was on everyone else

[placid stratus]

Based

[light quail]

i have missed playing psyker tbh
the amount of multitasking and carnage you can pull off is unreal

voidstrike taxe with this setup

[safe crystal]

Weakspot damage is bad on pretty much everything, because the damage increase calculation for it is (weakspot damage - base damage) * modifier. Deimos H2 gets ~50 damage out of a tier 4 weakspot increase against unarmoured, while the UA perk gives the actual 25% increase for 200 damage, for example

[ionic needle]

Wouldn't absorption be better than harvest there since you have no way of generating passive charges?

[light quail]

that's my secret: kinetic flayer
even without it I keep on top of my charge decay (bursting specials and the occasional trash), but I save KF for bosses, starting the mission and generating multiple stacks in the event I have to

[ionic needle]

But you're not running flayer there though? Or am I blind?

[light quail]

barrage

been a while lmao, forgot all the talent names

[ionic needle]

Oh okay yeah that makes sense

Yeah I'm running barrage on almost all of my builds too, but having to swap over to BB to get some toughness can be a hassle

[light quail]

that's the only weak point of the build, might have to get some more voidstrikes and see what I can do about it

[tulip linden]

Rip this weapon...

Why [Run 'n' Gun] is allowed to be a blessing within staff weaponry is beyond me.

[idle bay]

It's one of the best blessing Surge staff can get. Second one if Warp nexusis (or whatever it get renamed to).

learn to use it's LMB attacks - it's insanely good tool

[river sand]

deimos is the only weapon that can get use of weakspot dmg. with maniac and weakspot and warp unleashed you can oneshot muties with h2 even without peril

[idle bay]

Bolt attack of staffs have very high suppression and decent damage (provided you can aim and do headshots). With run and gun you can easily and safely break distance while suppressing living shit out of heretics

[desert vault]

A lot of the staff perks need some love. I have a trauma staff that has tier III sustained fire and transfer peril and I'm just like "Why has though foresaken me beneficent Emprah?"

Like I'll grant that the primary bolt isn't bad. But it's boring, and boring is unforgivable!

[idle bay]

It's also only sensible attack to use vs dregs on Surge staff, it takes ages to kill them with lightning. Best scenario - you run into them while spamming LMB to kill few and suppres rest and then start chopping them with melee.

And it faster to kill sniper with bolt attack than BB him

[desert vault]

True, true. I'd just prefer something with a bit more flare. Rule of cool, you know? Even just changing it from a projectile to a lightning bolt would be a step up.

[idle bay]

Extra cosmetics that turn bolts into ghostly middle finger gestures you shoot towards heretics 🙂

[tulip linden]

Seems it doesn't proc as much as it is supposed to.

[safe crystal]

Yep, but just giving an idea of how low the increase is in general, even with such a strong attack as Deimos H2. Personally, i would just grab unyielding,flak or even carapace over it

[desert vault]

I almost wish they'd get rid of HP damage and just rate everything by hits-to kill. So many bonuses aren't useful bc they don't hit breakpoints.

[idle bay]

Though with a tempo Fatshar releases content and patches and do not touch or mention how BAD crafting and weapon aquisition system is.. We will probably see cash shop cosmetics in q4 2023 when game will have ~1000 online

[tulip linden]

I'd say it would be 2024 Q2 if anything.

[faint vault]

Somehow I turned into a character from Naruto.

Yay.

[cold oasis]

My god, Blessed by fate is honestly the shittiest one to do

[faint vault]

It's horrible.,

[tulip linden]

Keep your distance is pretty bad too

[celest hedge]

i'm really hoping we get better hat slot stuff for psyker, I don't like the giant dumb harnesses

[karmic delta]

Wait this is supposed to be difficult? xd

[faint vault]

I did this one in three consecutive runs without even trying. Try running surge.

[spice veldt]

really only ragers you have to watch for

[tulip linden]

Just annoying to deal with if anything. Get bap once, gotta do the whole mission again.

[spice veldt]

i got it within 5-7 missions as somebody who almost exclusively uses their melee

granted I have the trauma staff to make melee elites go to the ground

I also just joined a sedition mission with warp battery + quicken to for blessed by fate to get that out of the way

since I wanted the god damn helmets

[faint vault]

I did that with a friend at the start of a private game.

Tedious, but gets it out of the way.

[shy prairie]

me and the siblings

https://tenor.com/view/psyker-dawn-of-war-warhammer40k-command-squad-imperial-guard-gif-23571492

[broken quail]

Oh, I didn't realize a leaderboard existed until now

[feral verge]

it's a mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US7oJpkIaDY

[coarse basalt]

I just had a headburst disconnect me from my game lmao

popped too hard

[broken quail]

Oh boy, not really interested in the scoreboard but some of the other UI mods seem mighty helpful.

[upper jacinth]

Any penancers?

[karmic delta]

Brainbursted your CPU

[crude trout]

I realized that I have bad melee habits now that I'm so used on how to melee as a psyker with a force sword 😦

i keep dodging and dodging as a vet and I forget that I have a shove

[ember sentinel]

speaking of mods is the animation events mod still broken?

i havent been using scoreboard mod and whatnot because of it

[spice veldt]

it was ui_extension that was broken and newer versions of scoreboard don't require it anymore

[ember sentinel]

oh is that what it was

i knew one of them was broken

ill check and see if i can get it working again then

[formal ridge]

shred and riposte

[formal ridge]

same and its easy

[light quail]

DSword is hella fun, crucial part of my Commisyker loadout (DSword, laspistol)

recently though I've joined voidstrike gang

[formal ridge]

i mean i spent a fuck ton of time min maxing mine and just finally got uncanny 4, but if you get the breakpoints its easy to kill dreg/scab bruisers and the blessings take care of hoards

[near wyvern]

Yeah DS and Laspistol are not the performant choices.

[formal ridge]

i hate laspistol lol

idc if its powerful or not, i will never use it

[near wyvern]

Deimos is just a better DS and MG IV lasgun is just a better laspistol

[formal ridge]

how much agility does deimos give you? i have not invested any real time in the force swords

ds mark 5 rivals a combat knife but it hoard clears faster

[torn hamlet]

What should I reroll my perk into?

[formal ridge]

im the player running around the entire map collecting every bit of plasteel so sprint speed is very important

[spice veldt]

sprint speed of the deimos is the same as the other force swords, but the dodge distance is better

[light quail]

be damned if they aren't fun though
I remember oneshotting a gunner to the head with the thing, that and you have long ass dodges + the good push on psyker

[formal ridge]

if deimos can match dueling swords mobility ill build one

but i dont want any caveats

it needs to have. same speed, dodge distance, sprint cost

if it has any slower mobility then no thanks

[light quail]

I did sus out a bit of tech for dodging
by complete mistake I found you can crouch mid-dodge to slide at the end, slightly extending jt

[spice veldt]

deimos' dodge distance scales from -2.5 to +12.5

[light quail]

might help you get a little more oomph out of deimos

[spice veldt]

yeah that's a dodge slide

be warned that on other weapons, dodge-slides count twice towards your dodge limit

[light quail]

numeric UI, knew it did that

[spice veldt]

yeah that was how I found out as well

[light quail]

found it on my taxe lol

[spice veldt]

such an obscure ass yet rather impactful detail to not be told about

[formal ridge]

how easy is deimos hoard clear

[spice veldt]

spam l1 and it's good enough

if you want to put in some extra APM, you could do heavy->light->light->light->repeat

though I haven't really tested the deimos combos

[torn hamlet]

This weapon fixable? It got really good mods

[light quail]

blazing spirit seems a little ass

but other than that, aye, it's nice

[keen mural]

pain, suffering

[near wyvern]

Not really because you have infinite dodges. You can crab walk faster than you can sprint.

Notice that this means you can move faster than sprinting while blocking melee attacks and avoiding ranged attacks.

With Deimos

[tropic vigil]

i guess i can use it as a meme sword

[olive ember]

They renamed the penance to head honcho huh

[torn hamlet]

What perks do I want on a purg staff?

[olive ember]

smh I see arcotash is talking about the deimos

but he hasn't mentioned the 10/10 obscures smh smh

purge staff perks are flak + crit chance/maniac/unyielding etc. etc.

crit chance for general use, maniac for ragers and to a lesser extent mutants, unyielding is for boss damage and lesser extent ogryns

[torn hamlet]

I have unarmored locked in. What should be my 2nd?

Flak?

[olive ember]

I'd say flak yeah

helps with killing bruisers and maulers

[torn hamlet]

ok cool yea I have crit right now but il reroll to flak

[olive ember]

also helps with hitting burn breakpoints on shooters

assuming you are using AB

[torn hamlet]

ok makes sense

yea yes im using ascendent blaze

do you recommedn wild fire or warp battery?

[olive ember]

I recommend WB

wildfire is like rly buggy

[torn hamlet]

is it?

[olive ember]

in the sense that it won't spread to enemies with more than 4 stacks of burn

[torn hamlet]

oh interesting

[olive ember]

and it also has a chance of not spreading if the enemy who had the burn only has 1 stack

[torn hamlet]

is its just broken right now?

[olive ember]

its just bugged yeah

its kinda mid imo

[torn hamlet]

would you running communion?

[olive ember]

I run communion + WB

ik some people run Aura + wildfire

[torn hamlet]

that is what I have been running

aura with wildfire

[olive ember]

basically wildfires spread is for extra horde clear and charge generation

[torn hamlet]

it seemed like a good combo

[olive ember]

but if you want to use 6 stack AB

basically WB is good because 6 stack AB lets you burn down shooters

[torn hamlet]

yea Il give that a try

[olive ember]

etc.

[torn hamlet]

6 stac AB is nuts

been jumping back and forth between purge and surge

i like both a lot

finally gota better surge with much better warp res and quell speed and it feels much better to use

[olive ember]

wildfire vs WB is basically extra horde clear and warp charge gen, vs +8% potential damage and the 6 stack AB

and for me purge staff horde clear is already rly good so I prefer being able to clear out shooters

[torn hamlet]

yea that is fair

i will give it a try

i run warp battery on most my builds so just wanted to use wildfire because it seems like such a cool feat

[olive ember]

its weird but because it only spreads to enemies with <4 stacks of burn

its better with blazing spirit builds

I heard someone mention that burn trauma is actually pretty good with wildfire

[torn hamlet]

is that the blessing?

[olive ember]

blazing spirit + warp nexus trauma staff basically

[torn hamlet]

oh interesting

how about blazing spirit on a deioms

that be any good?

with wildfire?

[olive ember]

ehhh

its off meta

I heard someone mention that blazing spirit trauma specifically is good enough to be meta

but everythign else with blazing spirit is kinda off meta

[torn hamlet]

sounds kind of cool

i might craft a trauma at some point but having a ton of fun with surge and purg right now

[olive ember]

the problem is besides trauma the only other staff with blazing spirit is voidstrike

which doesn't have enough AOE

[torn hamlet]

yea i dont like the void staff much

[olive ember]

and for swords if you want a blazing spirit + crit sword

you basically have to give up slaughterer

[spice veldt]

the illisi and deimos NTRed the obscurus in my heart

[torn hamlet]

I just crafted this earlier lol

[olive ember]

thats.... one way to say it

[spice veldt]

what can I say; I'm a romantic

[olive ember]

I wouldn't call NTR romantic lmao

[spice veldt]

I'm sure that's just you

get a load of this guy

[olive ember]

yeah basically blazing spirit on swords or kinda meh because most enemies you could set on fire you would have already killed already

[torn hamlet]

yea i know it does not seem good

but it seems fun lol

[olive ember]

on top of that running blazing spirit crit sword means you have to give up slaughterer

and yea

if you want I'd recommend the illisi tbh

cuz its got that wide horizontal swing

[torn hamlet]

Yea I want to try the deimos with the purg

[spice veldt]

and extra cleave on the special

[olive ember]

deimos is like a dueling sword with stabs so even for fun its like

[torn hamlet]

been using ilisi this whole time so far

[spice veldt]

though the special is probably just going to outright kill everything before the burn does anything

[karmic copper]

which blessing is better to go with brutal?

[olive ember]

I mean if hes running something like blazing spirit + shred or bloodthirsty prob not on thicker hordes

[torn hamlet]

yea il probably just scrap this sword and start over

It just has good mods so I was hoping to make it work

[spice veldt]

Thunderous is my vote

Decapitator requires kills, and Thunderous is brittleness which means your teammates will benefit against the enemy that was hit

[karmic copper]

any idea if its ALL enemies hit?

does it also work on monstrosities?

[spice veldt]

should be

monstrosities are unyielding so if your teammate's weapons deal <100% damage to unyielding

[karmic copper]

can brittleness stack beyond 4 stacks? or will it just eventually allow everyone to hit whatever it is, for 100%

[spice veldt]

the stack cap is 8 stacks (40%) if nothing has been changed since

since the main use case I'm thinking of is for crushers

[karmic copper]

maniac or flak? i cant 1 hit kill flak atm for brutal

but 25% would allow

[olive ember]

I mean

you would want flak + maniac

[spice veldt]

probably up to you if you value killing maniacs faster or better clear against flak (especially if you reach a breakpoint with it)

[molten sparrow]

Done!

[karmic copper]

it was weakspot 8% and unarmored >.<

[wide tiger]

if you have to pick one or the other i would choose flak because it hits a lot more

flak/unarmored is a great combo

[karmic copper]

yeah i pretty much use that all my ranged

but ive always done maniac/flak on melee for obv reasons

but yeah, great weapon, didnt roll either

ill just go flak

[torn hamlet]

is unyeilding any good on surge?

[karmic copper]

@molten sparrow @ 8=========>

[torn hamlet]

How good is this staff?

crit damage and unyeilding

[north cradle]

Nice Crit, perfect Quell Speed, great Warp Resist

[torn hamlet]

yea good mods

but the perks?

[north cradle]

I'd personally change Crit to Maniac

[torn hamlet]

not flak?

il put the crit blessing on it once I get it to orange

[north cradle]

Granted, I haven't really enjoyed using Surge Staff, but I can't really think of many Flak enemies you can't dispatch fairly easily already

[torn hamlet]

ok that is fair

it is really strong against flak

already

[north cradle]

I always thought of Flak damage as the perk you put on melee weapons and guns too

[wide tiger]

on surge

you do + flak + carapace

cause the damage it does to anything else is bad

so bad x 1.25 = pretty much still bad but less bad

[torn hamlet]

which perk would you reroll on this

crit damage or unyeilding

[restive cave]

Soooo, coming back after a 3 month break. Did they fix psykers yet?

[wide tiger]

i mean thats tough really

[wide tiger]

yes

[north cradle]

Yeh

[restive cave]

Oooh? Really? How?

[wide tiger]

i know that crit damage bonus is pretty bad so id prob keep unyielding

[torn hamlet]

psyker got so many buffs overall

[north cradle]

That feat that increases damage on Force Attacks now applies to ALL damage

[wide tiger]

or you could keep crit damage bonus in the hopes that they -eventually- fix it

[torn hamlet]

easily the most fun class to play now

[north cradle]

Warp Charges drop one at a time instead of all at once

[restive cave]

So even though they didn't rework brain burst, they're still playable?

[spice veldt]

psyker's melee scene is extremely strong now

[restive cave]

Neat!

[torn hamlet]

hmm ok thanks

[wide tiger]

yeah the ilisi and deimos pretty much retired every other melee weapon on the psyker

[north cradle]

Brain Burst I think also does additional damage, to the point where I can reliably kill every enemy smaller than a Mutant in one shot with six stacks and Warp Unleashed

[restive cave]

Thanks for the catchup, the patch notes didn't scream fix to me

[torn hamlet]

They are way more than playable I think they are the strong class besides vet

[spice veldt]

you will easily top scoreboards even if you just use melee

[torn hamlet]

psykers just have so many tools to deal with any situation now

and the force swords are easily the most fun melee weapons in the game

[north cradle]

Psyker now feels like playing Talion from Shadow of Mordor

[spice veldt]

with the right build, you are much more of a generalist than any other class and you potentially have more damage output as well

[molten sparrow]

Hadron I LOVE YOU!

[north cradle]

Noice

[restive cave]

That's crazy that they managed to fix psyker.

[spice veldt]

we still only have four staffs though

[restive cave]

What's the preferences for curios now?

[north cradle]

Beam Staff when

[spice veldt]

peril glock

[restive cave]

Toughness or wounds or what?

[torn hamlet]

true but gun psyker is also fun and pretty good

[wide tiger]

There's still some dead feats but whatever, all the classes have dead feats

[spice veldt]

curios are probably left up to preference

I personally like toughness

[north cradle]

I like using 3 Max Health with Toughness Regeneration, Sniper Resistance, and Corruption Resistance

[spice veldt]

I bring a +stam curio along since i don't use kinetic deflection

[restive cave]

Ty

[spice veldt]

I run sprint eff, stamina regen, and toughness as my curio perks

my cardio is unmatched

[torn hamlet]

stam regen seems nice

[wide tiger]

yeah stam regen is sweet on psyker

[restive cave]

Is soulblaze workable?

[torn hamlet]

im still rocking three green hp curious

hasnt stopped me from clearing hi5 XD

[wide tiger]

I personally feel like soulblaze is kinda crappy but thats me

[molten sparrow]

Okay so I don't mess it up. Which perk do you suggest I refine please?

[north cradle]

I think Wildfire is a trap, but Soulblaze has always been pretty okay

[restive cave]

Or is the damage increase on peril still better?

[spice veldt]

soulblaze itself is average

[wide tiger]

you dont heat weakspots on surge secondary sooooo

[spice veldt]

just that the things that apply it are quite strong

[olive ember]

they both suck so um

[restive cave]

Ah

[olive ember]

prob weakspot damage

since the surge staff atleast crits a decent amount

[spice veldt]

Warp Unleashed is almost always the better choice

[wide tiger]

pretty much warp unleashed has no competition

[spice veldt]

it scales from +10% to 25% damage now and is flat-out additional damage to everything, including Brain Burst and DoTs

[molten sparrow]

Go maximum CC damage? and chose Increased Range Critical Chance?

[olive ember]

I think people mention on trauma you still run warp resist

but idek

[wide tiger]

Surge does no damage

its like the ogryn shield

[olive ember]

you can still run warp resist*

surge is best staff

don't you dare compare it to the fucking shield

[wide tiger]

stopit

[spice veldt]

inner tranq is prob for if you're using your staff a lot

[olive ember]

never

[spice veldt]

I use my trauma as anti-ranged and the occasional stagger against groups of melee elites, so I don't focus my build around it very much

[molten sparrow]

Just saw a great vid. It depends on how you build it. Crit for trash mobs is the key, otherwise focus Flak with Elite

So, should I just rip the Warp Flurry 4 and put it in this BA staff instead?

[wide tiger]

100%

patch was a cosmetics patch so yeah intended

[fierce sinew]

The cosmetics were broken for some people

[wide tiger]

should happen on pretty much any char you log in to

[fierce sinew]

unless you mean you hadn't logged in at all since the new penances and associated rewards

[molten sparrow]

This is a MUST WATCH video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KVVpasnIrw

[grand arrow]

as long as it remains a cc tool most folks wont care about it

[fierce sinew]

the fact that the damage is low isn't great but the target limit is the real problem

it just scales really badly with higher difficulty variants

[long wharf]

I am about 100% sure it is definitely not "must watch"

[fierce sinew]

he used all caps

it must be the truth

[long wharf]

oh, well then I digress.

[fierce sinew]

credibility is directly proportional to capital letter density

that's how people type when they REALLY MEAN what they're saying

[karmic delta]

Well there's also the Purge staff

Fooling around with the Revolver + Illisi on Damnation Hi+Hunting grounds. Didnt expect to top the scoreboard xd

[grand arrow]

wish there was a blessing that enabled more chains based on peril or something

[fierce sinew]

this is an interesting scoreboard

[grand arrow]

or maybe an inverse charge. lower charge attacks tag more targets but higher charges focus the lightning into a single enemy more

that actually sounds like a different surge staff variant all together tbh

[fierce sinew]

the purg player outdamaged you and killed double the lesser enemies, plus whatever the crit/weakspot stats are worth

I guess elites etc are just weighted more

[karmic delta]

the other Psyker was using Voidstrike

Vet on shredder

[fierce sinew]

those are super good numbers for void, what a chad

though it is consignment yard

[karmic delta]

Bro regularly breaking hordes. he was also running Ascendant Blaze

[fierce sinew]

I guess void kind of farms at the end

[fierce sinew]

a staff specific blessing for each of them (rending shockwave style) would go some way toward justifying separate pools, and this seems like a no brainer for the surge one

have a peril scaling one for purg too, fuck it

[meager cedar]

I feel like surge staff would benefit from having a variant of the surge blessing, ironically enough

[fierce sinew]

double/triple/quadruple stacks on crit at [peril threshold]

ez

[meager cedar]

Maybe on crit it doubles the targets or just shocks them for twice as long

[faint vault]

Arco, do you run unleashed for melee? I'm guessing you do.

[meager cedar]

The surgest staff

[spice veldt]

yeah

I run the trauma so I don't have any need for wrack & ruin to deal with densities

and I prefer to not run inner tranq since I'm a godblessed quietude user

[faint vault]

Cool, gonna try to change up my trauma playstyle and rely more on the Illisi.

[spice veldt]

when pushing through a map, most enemies are too spread about to make good use of the trauma while moving forward

so I'd rather accrue slaughterer stacks and murder everything while dodging to my destination

I also dislike throwing enemies (groaners/poxwalkers) if I can help it unless it's a mixed horde and I need to separate the elites from the trash

[faint vault]

Yeah, I've been defaulting to surge, doing pretty much the same. Played my trauma build way more defensively.

[vale viper]

What the best new force sword for us Psykers?

[spice veldt]

and when fighting shooters, you'll get toughness back from melee kills

[faint vault]

Depends on set up.

[spice veldt]

with trauma, whenever I go into the open, I end up getting all of my toughness peeled even with focused channeling + sprint-slides

with the illisi, I can spam dodge-slides and get some toughness back more reliably

[faint vault]

The deimos truly shines with staves or guns that are good at clearing hordes.

Yeah

Like purg/deimos is sweet. You kill pretty much all chaff with the staff, and one shot tougher targets with the sword.

I prefer Illisi at the moment tho. It just feels goooood.

And with slaughterer stacks, a special kills almost anything.

[spice veldt]

more comfy to me to just stand in place and deal with elites

[faint vault]

Yeah

[spice veldt]

and pretty much never having to kite backwards

imagine needing good positioning

or ever using your brain

and also usually guaranteeing kills

since teammates won't be able to catch up and get them

well I guess you can move faster with the deimos

damn, now I'm thinking of all the crusher kills that have been taken from me

[faint vault]

Oh snap.

[grand arrow]

for gunpsyker how do i build my talents exactly

im doing 313233 right now

im just going to try this and see how plays out

[long wharf]

I would take Kinetic Flayer

instead of Warp Battery

the free BB will allow you to keep your stacks up without effort

I definitely wouldn't bother with Mind in Motion, either

[ornate hamlet]

What happens NEXT will SHOCK YOU

[formal ridge]

you would want to test if you can one shot both scab and dreg bruisers with light swings and flak bonus, if so, keep decap. if not, thunderous

[faint vault]

Depends on what gun you're using, really. I run a laspistol-build with 3-1-1-2-1-1 - where I pump up peril with an illisi and go to town, then switch to gun for ranged enemies and elites. The aim is to maintain 6 stacks for the extra damage to the shots and melee.

[faint vault]

If you run a shredder with pinning, try the loco AB build. 1-1-1-2-1-2 or 3-1-1-2-3-2.

[faint vault]

A great all-rounder for pugs, is 3-1-2-2-3-3

[long osprey]

Finished my first Hi gauntlet with no lights on as psyker (damnation) it was eventful lol

[dawn crypt]

What are the best blessings for void staff?

[vestal rose]

lights out hi gauntlet my beloved
hope it was a worthwhile time

[long osprey]

First teammates all died at the beginning then rage quitted then I got some backups with no deaths

[vestal rose]

incredible lmao

[steel flame]

This is what I personally use for shredder psyker. Very speedy and melts everything if you can get pinning fire and blaze on your shredder

[west galleon]

How do you deal with stuff outside of purge range i seem to have played too much voidstrike

[steel flame]

T2 is a toss up with warp unleashed but I prefer the extra horde clear from wrack vs more overkill damage

Bb, or you stick to cover and weave your way up till you're in range, deflector on a fs works wonders too

[long osprey]

With Deimos it’s easy to slide dodge to range

[steel flame]

That too

Deimos is what I use too and it's super dodge mobility makes getting in range very easy

Knife can work too, but I like that more with shredder than with purge, one shots with diemos are too nice to pass up

[jaunty moth]

whats the bst setup for voidstrike anymore? just came back and wanted to tweak alittle

[long osprey]

I don’t like voidstrike anymore 😭

Only places I still bring it it’s like enclavum baross where it’s truly a weapon of mass destruction

[nimble burrow]

i'm so bad at remembering to try for Keep Your Distance

I want to tussle with elites

oh a reaper time to sit on my thumbs and brain burst behind a box

[spice veldt]

run his ass with your hands

[nimble burrow]

finally using deflector because i think i lost it to a single bullet

[spice veldt]

keep your distance is avoiding melee attacks from elites right?

[nimble burrow]

wait just melee

i can dodge the rest of the elites easy it's just reaper triggering me

[wanton valley]

are the cosmetics from prioritize targets and kinetic killer 1 bugged? I just got both penances but don't have them in my cosmetic menu

[ornate hamlet]

ye

[wanton valley]

oh I relaunched my game and they're here now lol

[empty mesa]

Funny how gunker has some of the most build diversity

[formal ridge]

havent rerolled perks yet, this thing is going to shred; straight from Brunt to Hadron

[formal ridge]

how so? JW

[spice oar]

the omnisaiah has blessed thy rng

[formal ridge]

I been playing like 24 hours straight lol all for this

I mean not straight but.. ya know

the min maxed mark 2 with my desired blessings

[empty mesa]

I see people using a lot of different feats and weapons with good success

Lot of possible synergies

[formal ridge]

yah I Guess gunker is kinda just a label like "staffker" and the various ways u can build staffs

but idk any other builds besides autopistol

like what are you referring to, mark 12?

im interested

I mean recon lasgun infernus can still hit hard

[empty mesa]

I mostly see auto pistol, idr other guns peolle have used

[formal ridge]

I played that yesterday or the day before a little, tier 4 headhunter/tier 4 infernus

autopistol is just crazy good

the whole pinning fire ascendent blaze thing just seems wrong, but other classes have good builds too

I dont get how it works logically

how does a gun make your magic more powerful

[empty mesa]

Auto piss needs a nerf ngl

Prolly ammo count nerf

[formal ridge]

or just dont let ur ascendent blaze get powered

50 bullets max would make sense

[final mesa]

Anyone doing the redacted penance Head Honcho?

[formal ridge]

pistols dont have huge mags like that lol

[empty mesa]

I'd like to do it but busy atm

[formal ridge]

all the infantry auto guns need more bullets tho imo

idk.. just makes no sense with how strong the autopistol can be comparatively

[ember sentinel]

i dont mind the ammo count on the auto pistol as much because without pinning fire you do actually kinda need that ammo to kill stuff, pinning fire turns both the bolter and auto pistol into broken guns

pinning fire could use a tweak over ammo cause ive heard auto pistol without it is super bad

[formal ridge]

that makes sense

[ember sentinel]

dont have to make auto pistol bad again or anything but pinning is very good

[formal ridge]

make it 75% max power

[ember sentinel]

slaughterer is in the same boat

[formal ridge]

like slaughterer

lol

[ember sentinel]

yeah blessings are balanced weirdly lol

[formal ridge]

or just buff other stuff

buff recon lasguns

[hearty python]

@dawn crypt warp flurry and transfer peril

@final mesa I did it back when it was Malleus Monstornum, get a shield ogryn to tank a demonhost for you

[nimble burrow]

okay i finally got 1/3 for it, totally got my ass lit up by a reaper in that mission so 100% you're right it's melee

idk what the hell i was doing to get hit by em earlier

[ember sentinel]

its easy to get hit by a rager or just a shotgunner poking you in the back or something

[nimble burrow]

they aint elites

i thought

[spice veldt]

ragers and shotgunners are elites

specialists spawn at intervals and are always aggroed onto you

[ember sentinel]

arent elites just special enemies

[spice veldt]

elites pre-spawn on the map in a passive state

[nimble burrow]

this is what i saw by googling

everything else is a specialist so i was just focusing on* avoiding these

[spice veldt]

gunners are also elites