and i wish they'd stop horsing around with the arbitrary 80% limit. needs to be uncapped 3 months ago
#psyker-class
grand arrow
spice veldt
gimme me my 1 second charge time trauma
crude cape
what do you need for it to reliably 1 shot? my poke sometimes doesnt
do you have to be at 6 stacks
crude cape
do you need 6 stacks?
bc when i go in meat grinder
it always crits and idk why, hard to test
but in a live damnation sometimes it doesnt
cold geode
honestly not sure if its 4 or 6
crude cape
ok, ya i notice it when im low stacks
i just wasnt sure if others were doing enough w/o stacks to 1 dhoy
cold geode
pygex probably has the info on his guide on steam
crude cape
1 shot
cold geode
looks like hes doing it in the test area with 4 stacks https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10?t=37
cyan notch
do u have warp unleashed
near wyvern
Heyo
So the Deimos one shot depends on a lot of things:
- Damage roll
- First Target roll
- Finesse roll
- +maniac perk
- Warp Unleashed
- Unstable Power
- Warp Charges
- peril level (WU + unstable)
Those are the main things that have a reliable and direct impact on it. I highly recommend to go to psyk to test what is your peril limit for each warp charge stack for that exact weapon.
cyan notch
probably finesse too
near wyvern
Oh yeah that one as well
kind jay
(slaughter stacks)
hearty python
Heyo
So the Deimos one shot depends on a lot of things:
- Damage roll
- First T...
I have 1 shot muties with this multiple times, no Warp Unleashed, I do run Warp Battery and usually have 6 stacks but I don't think I always do. Maybe they got shot a few times before I got the stab, but I can't say for sure. I think they may take extra damage while charging but I'm not sure.
And I think I've done it without slaughterer stacks either.
ember sentinel
holy shit i started doing the quell cancel thing on voidstrike and that is very fun
idk how much better it is than just sending semi charged shots with warp flurry
but its fun
cold geode
yea, using a macro to do it is funny
ember sentinel
yeah i can feel the arthiritis developing even more so than usual doing that
ok it seems less effective sadly
obtuse moth
its not that good, except at cc. which is why i like using the burn build because then you can do the quell cancel spam for dps :D
ember sentinel
upon testing
esp since it knocks things over
how good is at with the burn build?
obtuse moth
decent, you ascendant blaze once you get a proc to instantly stack 7-9 stacks of burning depending on whether you take wildfire
prisma condor
obtuse moth
anything it hits when you crit gets burn stacks and you spam as much and as fast as possible to get more crits
hollow current
I have 1 shot muties with this multiple times, no Warp Unleashed, I do run Warp ...
probably had slaughterer stacks up. they don't take extra damage while charging.
ember sentinel
do you prefer wildfire or do you just take the extra damage with WB?
also im assuming your running Warp flurry/blazing spirit
or are you just running burn through feats
obtuse moth
no flurry is useless and you want harnessingthe warp for more crit chance
uh i think i run it with wildfire
obtuse moth
you could still charge if you want, sometimes you do want the direct damage more
ember sentinel
ok so just harnessing/blazing/transfer and then wildfire asecendant
ember sentinel
and the idea is to just spam into hordes for CC/DPS and then use ascendent whenever its up
obtuse moth
use ascendant only once you already got a burn crit
you can save your f for when you proc a crit burn on elites too, depends on the situatino
ember sentinel
ok
im not actually super familiar with how wildfire and whatnot works so ill have to play around with it
prisma condor
<:Hmmm:1060045625414144000>
Anything worth swapping carapace to?
ember sentinel
oh rip
obtuse moth
its fine for blazing spirit builds still
ember sentinel
well i could still run it with just ascendant and blazing anyway
obtuse moth
its not like purge since you dont get as high stacks to begin with
either way works tho, its sort of like a ranged purgatus style build
spice veldt
if you're doing a blazing spirit build, it does matter
ember sentinel
but not normally
obtuse moth
uh not as much, im not actually sure how damage distribution works on voidstrike, on trauma blazing spirit makes the entire radius useful rather than just the center
spice veldt
epicentre has 6 cleave max when fully charged, and the outer area does doodoo damage
obtuse moth
because youre after the burn more than the direct damage
ember sentinel
i got a void with transfer 4 so if i need blast radius for blazing then ill just make the one i made my new regular one
cause its got like 48% radius
obtuse moth
it probably matters more than with regular void builds then, how much i couldnt tell you
cold geode
just got warp flurry 4 on trauma, and i got surge 3 times earlier today, and yesterday i got surge once. should i buy a lotto ticket or something?
ember sentinel
yeah i just rolled like 3 voidstrikes and got transfer 4 and flurry 4 out of it
i think ive used all my luck
not on the same staff sadly
but flurry 4/transfer 3 with good perks is still very nice
uneven drift
i think ive used all my luck
i mean, hadron currently very generous, many people reported that she raining with t4 blessings.
molten sparrow
What qualifies as warp attacks please?
ember sentinel
anything with a force sword staff or BB
cold geode
anything that generates peril
molten sparrow
thanks
what staff can rack up the most kills the fastest? I assume on an ambush situation
ember sentinel
prob purge
cold geode
if its just poxes and lesser enemies, trauma can do some damage too
500+ dmg to an unlimited number of targets in the blast area
ember sentinel
yeah trauma/purge/void can all do good damage to a horde
if you just need to kill a bunch of enemies with warp attacks
molten sparrow
thanks
ember sentinel
they can kill regular enemies too ofc but youll get a lot of kills in hordes
near wyvern
I have 1 shot muties with this multiple times, no Warp Unleashed, I do run Warp ...
they don't take extra damage while charging, most important thing is to hit the head, warp unleashed makes it a lot safer. You can always go into the training grounds to test the thresholds for that one shot
spice veldt
mutants take 3x melee damage regardless of whether they're charging or not
digital loom
i have a pretty strong build
if you wanna play with fire but not blind your teammates, use trauma with blaze and that crit blesssing
it seems mediocre at first but the more enemies there are the stronger it gets
this is more or less what i've settled on
alternate
the bottom has strong horde clear but the top has a little more versatility and gets stronger the slower your team is at dealing with elites and specials
maniac deimos and crit blaze trauma
it doesnt seem like much at first glance but when the load gets heavy you can keep pulling
near wyvern
wildfire is bugged and doesn't really work
this is the proper build
with this
and this
you only ult on a horde, preferably after a proc with staff but don't hold on to it for too long, you want to get the charges back
obviously use it to save a team mate if you must but then you gotta work some stacks up again
with BB
left basin
with this
doz beemos one shot funky shit with just unstable?
i'm lightly considering slaughterer+unstable for those overkill numbers
cyan notch
bug
static agate
Takes 4ever to get a Illisi with Blazing spirit 4 blessing :(
I keep getting level 3 on it..
Any tips?
blissful cedar
can trauma charge attack crit?
static agate
You mean right attack? Yes
blissful cedar
i see
static agate
Also, psyker has a base 5% crit chance
blissful cedar
any recommended perk for trauma?
static agate
Dmg against Flak
blissful cedar
aight thanks
but the charge right click of trauma can't do a weak spot hit right?
since it's aoe based
spice veldt
I like +unarmoured on trauma to more reliably one-shot dreg bruisers (450 hp) without relying on warp unleashed or warp charges too much
and yeah the right-click can't hit weakspots
both the epicentre and outer area count as explosions
uneven drift
but the charge right click of trauma can't do a weak spot hit right?
Right. Only primary attack can hit weakspot.
cyan notch
iono bout that one
bitter escarp
Right. Only primary attack can hit weakspot.
be great if epicentre hits counted
brisk panther
Any tips?
pray harder to rnjeeezus and consider making a sacrife to the emprah. your first born as sacrifice might work. only one way to find out
static agate
What is people opinion on obscurus?
Is it still a good weapon compared to newly releases Illisis and Deimos?
inland sand
the trauma build I run is the warp flurry one because it just seems far and away the one that can generate the most value
inland sand
Trauma feels weak when you can't cast 6-10 blue circles in a row
cyan notch
y/n
spice veldt
can't be too terrible
austere estuary
I think you could at the very least get it into a meme build
spice veldt
the armour mods on it aren't that bad except against maniac
can't say I know about the recon lasgun meta though
austere estuary
rapid fire recon is kinda OKAY but not amazing imo, but can at least reliably trigger auto brainpop
lethal folio
VIIa doesn't have many advantages. It does have slightly better cleave.
midnight berry
it is not slightly
it is the only one who pierce poxer and flak
but it is held back by its ammo cost
it is 2 per shot
cyan notch
i hate fake ammo counts
spice veldt
woohoo not hunting grounds anymore
safe crystal
First game in a while on psyker, took a random hit from a poxwalker at the very end, ruining the perfect game 
cyan notch
empty mesa
Sneed to try gunker still
round jay
First game in a while on psyker, took a random hit from a poxwalker at the very ...
are those stat in games or with mods?
ionic needle
mod, it's called scoreboard
round jay
with nexusmod? I heard about it but I wasn't sure if it was safe
spice veldt
yeah, there's always that risk
I just assume that any mod posted in the modding discord or by frequent posters is safe
round jay
i mean, don't you hear it before it comes to you
spice veldt
smh no chat block?
safe crystal
I just started playing the game again, i dont have the new hottest mods
spice veldt
smh smh
round jay
mmmmh, forgot about this one. How are we suppose to get this
round jay
oh really
safe crystal
Also, its not difficulty locked, so it can be done on sedition
quasi iris
mmmmh, forgot about this one. How are we suppose to get this
push the boss off cliff
round jay
yeah, I don't remember any boss caring about the push of any class
spice veldt
barrels and vet nades and ogryn charge will do it
safe crystal
It feels great when Hadron actually gives you something amazing for once
spice veldt
very nice
round jay
pog
graceful eagle
I dont have thrust 4 on my hammer, but if i did, it would be a one shot
can other hammer 1shot too?
safe crystal
I think its Crucis only, im not too sure about Ironhelm. You'd need to ask the more experienced zealots
You need thrust on it though, thats for sure.
Thrust 3 lets you oneshot if you have 2 slaughterer stacks
graceful eagle
yeah i have decent Ironhelm with t4 thrust and headtaker
round jay
you can also do it with full squad so if you alone can deal more than 30% at once
round jay
you mean a patch?
safe crystal
The important bit is no one should engage the boss until everyone is ready to burst it down, thats why its hard to get in pugs
The timer starts when it takes damage
round jay
we got one few days ago
olive ember
🤔
round jay
The timer starts when it takes damage
great, i was scare it started on the spawn of the mob
olive ember
Oh right that was a few days ago
round jay
can't we remove torso cosmetic anymore?
safe crystal
I still have the shirtless cosmetic
round jay
welp, I guess i can't enjoy tatoo anymore
elder rain
I dont have thrust 4 on my hammer, but if i did, it would be a one shot
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lethal folio
Thrust is broken, every tier gives 50%.
safe crystal
Thrust is broken, every tier gives 50%.
Is it every tier of thrust, not just 4?
safe crystal
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My hammer is very mediocre
static agate
I heard that Wildfire is currently bugged, in what way?
spice veldt
it's either a bug or a shitty description
but Wildfire's description doesn't tell you that it won't target enemies that already have 4 or more soulblaze stacks
so enemies will only gain 4 soulblaze stacks from wildfire proccing at most
orchid shadow
Seriously? They fixed the shirtless bug? Hnnnnng.
hearty python
@orchid shadow yeah, saw that in the patch notes and am disappointed
full bane
Goddamn illisi is stupid good
I’m using a profane one and I’m holding my own on heresy
That’s ridiculous
primal fjord
it's either a bug or a shitty description
but Wildfire's description doesn't tel...
It's the description, they only went in detail in the patch notes.
"(NEW) Wildfire: If an enemy dies while affected by Soulblaze that you’ve applied, up to 4 of their Soulblaze stacks are spread between nearby enemies. The total amount of Soulblaze stacks on the new enemy cannot exceed the stacks of the dying enemy."
spice veldt
no more public indecency
supple skiff
they are as the god emperor made them
we ought to behold them in their full unclothed glory
primal fjord
They should monetize off the bug by releasing shirtless/tasteful tank top cashshop cloths. 
graceful eagle
cool hotfix
round jay
Seriously? They fixed the shirtless bug? Hnnnnng.
Why can you get tattoos all over the body and only barely show your arms
near wyvern
@static agate
long wharf
Someday, FartShart is going to learn to test their "fixes" before hitting that release button
Not today, but surely someday.
why is FartShart so afraid of Wildfire being good?
it's competing with 6 stacks of warp charge and a free BB every 15 seconds
vernal frost
Someday, FartShart is going to learn to test their "fixes" before hitting that r...
well they kinda needed to rush the fix with the shader shitshow
long wharf
"testing isn't as important as rushing a fix out the door" - said no professional software engineer ever
nor anybody that takes pride in their code.
that's grounds for a process review, in my book
long wharf
how hard is it to just put the right string in the right file?
spend more effort pushing these patches as fast as possible than it'd take to just fucking double check yourselves
jesus the incompetence.
spice oar
its really sad to see them do so ass
primal fjord
Can anyone explain to me how Bloodthirsty works on Illisi special attack?
near wyvern
Can anyone explain to me how Bloodthirsty works on Illisi special attack?
You take a special swing, if you get a kill your next connecting attack within 5 seconds is a crit.
karmic copper
trolololololol
primal fjord
I know it would be a meme sword, but what other Blessing would make Bloodthirsty-Illisi somewhat viable?
north cradle
karmic copper
@primal fjord if you dont have ANY slaughterer... bloodthursty could be fine with anything
especially with that high peril resist you could almost special-heavy, special, heavy, special heavy over and over
problerm with Spirit soulfire spreading, is you kill most things instead of DoTing it
but its fine, its the best sword to use it now anyway since its such a great cleave
hot cypress
anybody wanna do private and get head honcho penance? you help me i help you
primal fjord
<@351085514901946369> if you dont have ANY slaughterer... bloodthursty could be ...
I have Slaughter 4, was thinking of putting Blazing Spirit 3/4 for a meme sword. Since I already have a really good Illisi with Slaughter 4/Uncanny Strike 3.
serene breach
should i change Elite damage to Crit damage/chance or Unarmored damage?
safe crystal
This goddamn penance. I have to actively play badly to get it
ember sentinel
i just charged illsi to max peril every once in a while and then cancelled it when i had a free moment
its weird tho
summer prairie
It's not really playing badly, it's often more efficient to do a full channel at max peril and then ulting, if you don't have flurry stacks to care about
If you use the ult for venting anyway
humble saddle
should i change Elite damage to Crit damage/chance or Unarmored damage?
change the weapon
long wharf
since I regularly use ult to vent in heated situations, I got that one without any extra effort
crude cape
Im aware this isnt amazing - not t4 rending. But i dont have a good one, how is it as far as base stats go? charge rate too low? I just dont have a good trauma at all to use, wondering if i reroll runNgun and a perk, its decent right?
long wharf
you really want charge rate as high as you can get it
crude cape
damn
long wharf
as well as damage
hearty python
@safe crystal I swapped IT for WU and AB to Quicken and got it in a couple of missions with Voidatrike
crude cape
people say dmg isnt important on trauma
long wharf
why would damage be dump stat?
cyan notch
This goddamn penance. I have to actively play badly to get it
u can farm it with quicken really easily
long wharf
if you're only using trauma to knock things around, you're just hurting the team
crude cape
bc it doesnt do a lot of dmg anyway and it doesnt make a difference much for breakpoints, apparently
been parroted here over and over
"dmg is dump stat for trauma"
long wharf
well I dislike trauma anyways
my suggestion would be to use a different staff entirely
long wharf
ooof
crude cape
but im a purg lover atm
crude cape
purg + deimos is my go-to right now
hexed ether
its a fun weapon and can be good it does quite a lot of dmg to carapace with brittlenes
long wharf
I main surge+illisi
crude cape
I entirely disagree with "trauma is good"
most consider it the 2nd best staff on high tier 5
long wharf
"most"?
crude cape
i hear it a lot
long wharf
I'd love to see the poll on that
crude cape
purg + trauma only staffs with no target limit
hearty python
@long wharf really depends on play style I'm also not a big fan but I have seen it be very effective
crude cape
for cc and dmg
cyan notch
its not really a dump stat but u can afford to have it in 60-70 range as long as you hit whatever breakpoints u need with warp unleashed
hexed ether
for me purg > trauma = surge >void
hearty python
@crude cape maybe, but that's not how you use it
crude cape
i always thought it was unlimited but people here in recent discussions (the past week or so) have INSISTED it has a target limit
long wharf
it sounds more like you saying "I hear" when you mean "I'm making up"
crude cape
no
i have had like
a dozen people in here
say these things
as if it is meta fact
hearty python
@crude cape nope, it's my main and it chews through heretics
crude cape
and read it over and over
long wharf
void has no target limit
nor distance limit
the AoE is woefully limited in radius, though
and damage
hearty python
@long wharf and no damage fall off
long wharf
also correct
crude cape
i always when i used to use it thought it cleaved in a line too
long wharf
void is only beat out by BB for getting those targets waaaaaay far away
long wharf
no other staff can wipe out an oncoming horde before they get anywhere near the team
the damage is ... decent, not great
hearty python
It just passes through hordes killing everything
long wharf
on damnation, you have to fully charge to reliably one-shot hordes
hearty python
@long wharf that's what flurry 4 is for
long wharf
but that doesn't change the fact that void charged shots stagger everything
which includes the AoE
well, everything except mutie
crude cape
this guy. Not the only time him (and im pretty sure others agreed, ive seen it discussed at least 3 times) claim it has a "6 cleave limit"
this guy saying it stops at first elite
crude cape
again, 6 cleave limit on epicenter, whatever that means
ive seen it said a bunch recently
so, made me unsure
long wharf
especially when you have transfer peril
hexed ether
this thing still feels like trash to me when i play it compared to all the other staffs even compared to gunker
hexed ether
ye i aim slightly above their head maybe forehead
im aware of how transfer peril works
crude cape
but do you see how many people i quoted in here insisting void has a 6 cleave limit?
whats up with that
it made me unsure, bc i used to also think it was infinite cleave in a line
i found 3 quotes from like, the last couple weeks lol
long wharf
the projectile itself doesn't have an "epicenter"
3 quotes is hardly the dozen you said earlier
crude cape
there is an initial explosion though, then it goes in a line with a smaller radius - maybe thats why he means?
cyan notch
only shoots through 6 poxwalkers etc
crude cape
3 quotes is hardly the dozen you said earlier
that was just recently, if i take the whole history of the game been out for 6 months, reddit, other sources/discussions, i've heard it said a bunch, dozen isn't inaccurate
long wharf
it does have 6 cleave limit
you have a video showing this?
crude cape
but i also always thought it was infinite too, so it confused me
long wharf
because that doesn't explain how entire hordes die when I shoot them
crude cape
i havent used it in a while, but it was my most used staff for a good bit, and i agree, i felt like whole columns of hordes die when i shot it
cleaved in a straight line
but lots of people insist its a 6 limit
cyan notch
i can make a video but u can test it really easily in meatgrinder
long wharf
I don't feel the need to test it against my personal experience
safe crystal
Just gimme a sec, lemme get a video for you. It has a 6 max cleave on full charge, and cannot be increased by any means.
crude cape
so what are we seeing when we shoot into a huge horde and a big line dies?
is it only 6, and its deceptive?
safe crystal
crude cape
is there an AOE property, thats killing more than 6 guys around each "impact"
safe crystal
Staff used in testing
hexed ether
killer counter showed i killed 8
cyan notch
the aoe does damage yes
summer prairie
You can cleave more than 6 groaners
long wharf
is there maybe a maximum distance the projectile goes once it starts hitting enemies?
crude cape
i think its that each target it impacts, explodes in an aoe, hits next one, explodes. So its killing more than 6 total, with the collateral around each target. But its only going through 6 targets deep. Its probably deceptive bc the explosion clears a few guys, makes a space, travels hits the next, which extends the 'distance' and why it clears bigger numbers.
so it does kill way more than 6 shooting into a horde, but will only cleave through 6 units, exploding in an aoe on each
safe crystal
is there maybe a maximum distance the projectile goes once it starts hitting ene...
Nah, the ball keeps going at full charge if it hits less than 6 enemies until it hits a wall. This is easy to spot on maps like Throneside bridge lowering event, but i dont have a video for this atm
hexed ether
https://streamable.com/wyp4m8 with groaners but still close to each other
cyan notch
arent those poxwalkers
long wharf
yeah, those are groaners
summer prairie
groaners have 0.75 mass
crude cape
groaners have 0.75 mass
ah yes of course, how could i forget
just look at them and know their mass, duh
lmao
😛
cyan notch
those look like poxwalkers to me
hexed ether
ye just checked according to the spawner mod those are poxwalkers but i cant seem to find the groaners or im blind
summer prairie
new infected or whatever
cyan notch
theyre called newly infected
hexed ether
ah ok
cyan notch
u should get 8 with groaners
desert quartz
would taking shred iv over uncanny strike iv on a deimos be ideal
cyan notch
6 with poxwalkers
hexed ether
should i space them more or do them close again?
long wharf
wait, so the warp attack is being limited by the mass of what it hits?
summer prairie
it's the same for all cleaving
long wharf
god, that's hot garbage
hexed ether
newly infected https://streamable.com/k227lq
summer prairie
but I guess right now it's only voidstrike in terms of warp attacks
desert quartz
would taking shred iv over uncanny strike iv on a deimos be ideal
anyone? just looking for a lil feedback
summer prairie
uncanny strike is better
desert quartz
ok 👍 appreciate it, my friend
cyan notch
newly infected https://streamable.com/k227lq
yea 8 vs groaners
hexed ether
ye in the poxwalker one it killed 6 while in the groaner one it got 8 dunno how the aoe counts tho maybe its jsut to the side or even just a displacement
long wharf
this... is truly distressing to learn
but explains why it feels bad to use on Damnation
cyan notch
the aoe does garbage damage
its like 20 or some shit
if u stack a ton in one spot then hit em (with healthbars on) u can probably see it
primal fjord
Maniacs or Flak Armor for Illisi perk?
ornate hamlet
hexed ether
the aoe does garbage damage
oh ye it did barely scratched them https://streamable.com/62ziwf
basically knocks them around like trauma would but does 10% of the damage
i think i got 1 with aoe dmg tho
since i just got 9
or i accidentally hit it after spawning to test if hp bar worked
long wharf
gun psyker with the shredder pistol makes me very sad
hexed ether
shredder is busted
pine relic
I look like a nerd with a poor cosplay suit
hexed ether
just in time for warhammerfest
long wharf
it's so nice for FartShart to take the shoulder pad off a premium cosmetic and slap it on the wrist of a free one
all of the new cosmetics are jumbled up pieces of existing content
pine relic
near wyvern
this guy saying it stops at first elite
Void has a bit irregular behaviour, sometimes it cleaves well sometimes it stops for some reason, in any case you you hit carapace or a bulwark shield that's a hard stop.
fresh reef
first match getting over 100 in every category, woo
late yew
Which is better?
fresh reef
Which is better?
right
fresh reef
again, right
summer prairie
kind of a wash
maniacs doesn't do anything really on void and you can put flak on the left one
and the left one can get t4 flurry which is preferable to t4 transfer peril
near wyvern
first match getting over 100 in every category, woo
You say woo now but after you have done it enough times you start asking "why do I have to do everything by myself again" 😅
fresh reef
You say woo now but after you have done it enough times you start asking "why do...
nah, I like carrying sometimes
hexed ether
4 psyker is awesome
long wharf
4 good psyker players is fun
hexed ether
had 1 round with 4 psyker everyone had a different weapon
hexed ether
trauma, purge, surge and gun was probably the easiest damn+ ive played
fresh reef
wasn't new patch supposed to remove shirtless bug?
hexed ether
they reverted it cuz of slenderyn
fresh reef
nice
near wyvern
wasn't new patch supposed to remove shirtless bug?
They replaced it with zealot T2 chest for ALL classes, which didn't really fit the Ogryns so they reverted it back to no shirt for now
So either they are completely incompetent or they wanted to test the reaction for no shirt gone.
My money is on obese megalodon being incompetent and not testing if their fixes actually work.
fresh reef
so if you had it equipped with Psyker, would it have just replaced it with the zealot cosmetic or is it treated like the ogryn beta helmet where it'd still be bugged?
safe crystal
I kinda want the next fix to be ogryn T2 for all other classes
near wyvern
so if you had it equipped with Psyker, would it have just replaced it with the z...
Zealot cosmetic, someone posted a pic for that and it was dope, hold on
fresh reef
fuckin sick
ornate hamlet
Fattosharko will ignore the entire playerbase and remove the SWOLE GAINS WHEY MUSCLE MASS top
fresh reef
still, prefer my shirtlessness. it's the only way I can show off these eyes on my shoulders
<insert "eyes up here" joke>
near wyvern
Yes, shirtless is bootiful on ogryns
My boi Zug-Zug
All that detail hiding behind the shirt
Like how the skin folds around the stomach area and everything. 5/5
cold geode
5/7
near wyvern
I pity the artists and visual team cause they made everything so cool and pretty but the game balance and design team is sinking their beautifully crafted ship by purposefully ramming it against the rocks.
long wharf
you can only say "or they're testing community acceptance for potential feature" so many times
no studio breaks things as a way to test community acceptance
long wharf
I pity the artists and visual team cause they made everything so cool and pretty...
completely this; the incompetent management and devs at FatShark don't deserve their artists at all
coarse basalt
iLvl wise I think this is the highest thing I've ever just rolled
long wharf
shame on those blessings, though
coarse basalt
through consecration, that is
long wharf
you don't want either one
coarse basalt
ye
long wharf
unless you want to play memelord with blazing spirit
long wharf
you do realize that we can tell you aren't rolling that today, right?
long wharf
Warp Nexus isn't called Warp Nexus any more
coarse basalt
I'm literally looking at it right now
long wharf
did you pirate your game and thus can't update it?
long wharf
wtf, did they revert the Warp Nexus name change then?
cold geode
yes
coarse basalt
idk but it's there
cold geode
it got reverted with the new patch last week
long wharf
well alrighty then
coarse basalt
Vindication
I haven't got the chance to use it yet, but when you rebless something, does it consume the blessing?
sick isle
Smh
coarse basalt
so I have it forever? cool
long wharf
"earn blessing" strips it off the weapon and destroys the weapon
coarse basalt
Right right
I just wanted to know if I had to keep duplicates around to get more or something once I used them
long wharf
nah
coarse basalt
which wouldn't make sense since you can't stockpile them
ionic needle
Darktide (Nightmare mode): Earn blessings gives you charges that are used up as you re-bless
long wharf
once you unlock a blessing, it's yours to put on whatever you want
coarse basalt
but knowing how FatShark has been handling the crafting system...
long wharf
it's not a crafting system so much as an advanced slot machine
coarse basalt
true lol
long wharf
the only way we could get more upset at it is if upgrading a weapon required premium currency
coarse basalt
uuf
long wharf
5 Aquilas to add a blessing of your choice
ionic needle
inb4 red weapons will drop and require premium currency to upgrade to
hexed ether
wasnt it leaked that the perk rerolling thing wa supposed to get more expensive with every roll? that wouldve been bad aswell
long wharf
not leaked, they said that they initially had it increase pre reroll, but then decided to change it
what they should do is make changing the perk cost increase, but we get to pick what goes there
same with blessing
stop making us gamble, give us agency, damnit
hexed ether
i would be fine with the gamble if the locks were gone tbh i like grinding tho
long wharf
I don't mind grinding when it leads to the results I desire
grinding just to pull the slot machine lever again upsets me
makes me not want to keep playing
twilit flicker
There is agency in pulling on a slot machine though, just saying. Lol
hexed ether
blast dmg does jack shit dmg
fierce sinew
yOu"lL gEt iT eVeNtUaLlY
twilit flicker
Yeah lmao
terse saffron
ikr?
hexed ether
long wharf
god that upsets me
twilit flicker
yOu"lL gEt iT eVeNtUaLlY
Or maybe "but the gameplay is so good!"
long wharf
all this time I thought void was killing whole chunks of horde at a time
rapid bear
Question: is "Shoot Fast" all in one mission?
long wharf
Question: is "Shoot Fast" all in one mission?
on a shock troop, I imagine it's possible
rapid bear
Like, 25 of those enemies in one run to complete? Or is it 25 total brainburst kills?
long wharf
no, just total
fierce sinew
25 total
ionic needle
Is that the BB on specialists one?
long wharf
which I imagine you could do on a high intensity shock troop heresy
ionic needle
Pick aura and kinetic barrage and join a dog game
rapid bear
Is that the BB on specialists one?
It's BB 25 hounds, trappers, etc. before they can hit an ally.
long wharf
really really
fierce sinew
25 in one run would be fun gatekeeping though, I imagine that's realistic in hi 5/shock and not much else
long wharf
I did all the new psyker penances in one night
fierce sinew
same
long wharf
took me two sessions to do all the zealot ones
I imagine I'll get the vet ones done in one night
ornate hamlet
Did all the vet ones in 3 runs
fierce sinew
we went from "some of these will never ever happen in normal gameplay" to "these will immediately and unavoidably happen in normal gameplay"
long wharf
probably take me a few months to get the Ogryn ones, because I hate playing Ogryn
rapid bear
Worst vet one is honestly the headshots, if you're not running a rapid-fire weapon.
long wharf
and would rather play something other than Darktide than play Ogryn
ionic needle
The hardest one was the "kill enemies with warp attacks" one
Had to drop my gun to do that in a reasonable amount of time
long wharf
by "hard" you mean "I killed hordes with void and snored through it"
fierce sinew
purg go brr
long wharf
as long as nobody is helping you kill while you're purging, that works
abstract veldt
is deflector blessing still the best for the force sword
fierce sinew
I more or less one trick purg these days and finished it immediately
hexed ether
killstreak mod makes egts me going everytime getting 130 killstreak during wave feels just too good
long wharf
is deflector blessing still the best for the force sword
for not getting shot? yes
for doing damage? no, slaughterer is
ornate hamlet
is deflector blessing still the best for the force sword
Never was with slaughterer in the pool
fierce sinew
t2 blessing on 380
long wharf
strip unstable power off
fierce sinew
sick system fatshark
long wharf
and get you an Illisi fsword
abstract veldt
Illisi?
fierce sinew
there are 3 kinds of force sword and the one in your screenshot is the pointless one unfortunately
abstract veldt
CRAP
ornate hamlet
Lol
abstract veldt
lmao
ornate hamlet
Why
abstract veldt
dont worry bout it
ornate hamlet
Fair enough
abstract veldt
there are 3 kinds of force sword and the one in your screenshot is the pointless...
three kinds? how can you tell which kind it is
or is it just perk / blessing based
abstract veldt
oh i see
fierce sinew
three kinds? how can you tell which kind it is
you can tell by the words on your screen
ember sentinel
aight shredder autopistol kind of feels like cheating
i finally caved and farmed for a good one and all i have is pinning fire 3 on a good roll and its just
damn
i have a hunch pinning fire could use some tweaking
hearty python
@long wharf pox puppies do work for the BB before disable though
hearty python
@abstract veldt I wouldn't say Obscurus is pointless, it's pretty versatile, but Illisi has much better horde clear and Deimos can 1-shot a lot of specials with it's heavy stab and still does decent in a horde.
hexed ether
i mean its a weapon you can run on 3 of 4 chars as a top tier which makes it nerf worthy imo
hearty python
@long wharf I'm pretty sure because I got it fairly quick running hound missions
abstract veldt
<@190531976195735562> I wouldn't say Obscurus is pointless, it's pretty versatil...
i see
long wharf
Interesting
abstract veldt
<@190531976195735562> I wouldn't say Obscurus is pointless, it's pretty versatil...
the obscurus description is really vague
it doesnt feel particularly bad though i dont think
hexed ether
ember sentinel
Obscurus isnt bad its just worse than the other 2
hearty python
@abstract veldt it's not that it's bad, I ran it exclusively before the tools of war patch added Illisi and Deimos and still ran it for a bit after but have switched to Deimos now since it can often 1-shot muties
supple skiff
I ran almost exclusively obscurus before we got illsi and demois
I find zero reason to do so now
ember sentinel
I ran dueling sword before we got illsi and deimos
And yeah
Theres no reason to use that either
supple skiff
I maintain obscurus shouuld have innate deflector
supple skiff
but then again all that really does is free up a blessing you'd use to bring its damage up to either illsi or demios
ember sentinel
Without the cleave of illisi
supple skiff
or the single target of demi
ember sentinel
Illisi my fav weapon but it could probably use a small nerf
late yew
2 questons
1
Illi: deflector vs unstable power
2: Trauma feels really peril hungry, what can i do ab out it? Only take warp resistance talent?
ember sentinel
Unstable is technically better cause you can just slide into shooters and whatnot
supple skiff
warp resist talent with warp battery
ember sentinel
But if you like deflector its good
supple skiff
I have 2 illsi's one with slaughter and unstable, one with slaughter deflector, I almost always use deflector
the added damage unstable brings is overkill in most situations unless your repeatedly charging it to bat at specials
deflector is way more useful imo
ember sentinel
I do tend to play at high peril
So the unstable gets a lot of use on specials
With illisi
supple skiff
unstable is good, especialy considering you can use alt fire really fast to build it
late yew
Potential god roll?
supple skiff
holy fuck
ember sentinel
Oh my
supple skiff
and the low warp res
late yew
which perk i want to change
supple skiff
the only time you want a low roll
ionic needle
That's not low warp res
ember sentinel
Do you have something to put in the second blessing
supple skiff
well not crazy low no
late yew
Deflector
ember sentinel
Or can you get bricked
supple skiff
no you have ful control
ionic needle
This is low warp res
supple skiff
damn son
ionic needle
Hadron ruined it though
supple skiff
was guna say
ember sentinel
o7
supple skiff
theres a reason i dont see blessings 
ionic needle
Three rubs to 100%
static agate
If I put soulblaze on a enemy, but it dies from someone shooting it with a gun, do I still get 15% toughness regen from Warp absorption?
ionic needle
:<
late yew
If I put soulblaze on a enemy, but it dies from someone shooting it with a gun, ...
of course not
the person who killed it gets toughness
supple skiff
why did you lock executor?
late yew
probably other option was even worse
supple skiff
oh true
ionic needle
I can't remember what the other blessing was
ember sentinel
Other one was prob blazing or something
ionic needle
But it was worse
supple skiff
right idk why I asked that lol
ionic needle
Executor can be active for a bit during hordes so it's not completely bricked
supple skiff
deflector on that thing would have been really nice
nah thats still a really good one
the ones I use
ember sentinel
i use this one
i just realized i have infested on that
ive been using this for months
ionic needle
I still haven't gotten slaughterer 4
ionic needle
I must've upgraded a billion illisis by now
ember sentinel
and technically something that isnt carapace
supple skiff
and my demi. Ive been really lucky with my psyker rolls
my vet on the otherhand, consistently gets tier 2 blessings when I roll oranage lmao
near wyvern
wtf, did they revert the Warp Nexus name change then?
Hehehheeee didn't update the naming in Atheneum cause I suspected this might happen 😂 Pygex 1, Fatshark 0
vestal rose
i have a quandary
vestal rose
13% warp res sword for damage
80% warp res sword for the 9 stamina block efficiency meme build
i want both
but im addicted to gunker and cant build peril without a low res sword ;-;
ornate hamlet
Bloodthirsty and carapace kinda sus
tropic vigil
could be a bad omen
vestal rose
grab bloodthirsty and put it on a blazing spirit meme illisi
or upgrade to purple and hope you can swap out carapace
ornate hamlet
The perils of the warp penance, that's referring to when you save yourself from exploding from peril?
tropic vigil
8% melee crit damage
is what i rolled for 2nd perk
and yes, i think, your character has to be freaking out then you ult for it to count
near crow
I haven't used the Trauma staff since I first started leveling Psyker, which one of these two staffs should I use?
They're pretty similar, but I'm not too sure what to prioritize in terms of stats and perks
ember sentinel
left and try to get shockwave on it as the second blessing
charge rate is pretty important
although the one on the right isnt too bad
you have good perks on that one
near crow
I could throw plasteel into the left one to try and get shockwave since it's already got warp flurry and 20% to maniacs, but I'm not sure if it'd be a better use of resources
I'm guessing the lower damage doesn't matter for breakpoints?
wide tiger
ocean cipher
me who hasn't touched heresy at level 17+ on all chars vs my buddy doing heresy at level 7
theres triple modifiers?
safe fulcrum
Finally got transfer peril 4 for the Voistrike. Basically no Peril generation against hordes at head height
tropic vigil
nice bowling staff
obtuse moth
Finally got transfer peril 4 for the Voistrike. Basically no Peril generation ag...
grats! still hunting for it myself
glossy forge
want to know if i can double puddle something or if its just for the bolts
obtuse moth
afaik its not from a quick search of discord
left basin
want to know if i can double puddle something or if its just for the bolts
bolts only i've been told
spice oar
want to know if i can double puddle something or if its just for the bolts
It works on the voidstrike charged shot, so probably on the trauma
blissful mural
is pysker the meta now? or is it still comparatively weak?
long wharf
I don't know about meta, but psyker is in a good place right now
rapid bear
It's very strong. Builds are specialised, is all.
Speaking of which: Purgatus staff: Unarmoured, Flak, or Infested damage? I already have Maniac locked in.
safe fulcrum
Still something of a glass cannon though, obviously doesn't have the resiliance of the others
rapid bear
Still something of a glass cannon though, obviously doesn't have the resiliance ...
Yeah. Only thing they have going for them that was is the ability to advance with a Deflector sword on ranged enemies.
safe fulcrum
Gotta be on point with that dodging
spice oar
Yeah. Only thing they have going for them that was is the ability to advance wit...
Deflector plus surge is such a menace to ranged tbf
safe fulcrum
Yeah I stopped putting it on swords a while ago now...
rapid bear
My builds rarely melee unless I'm using deflector or desperate... so I keep it. 😛
Lets me move up into staff range.
Or into cover.
blissful mural
i use gun a lot, and getting toughness beack using laspistol is a pretty nice replacement
rapid bear
Deflector plus surge is such a menace to ranged tbf
It's glorious! And it's the only build that can stun a muty.
spice oar
i use gun a lot, and getting toughness beack using laspistol is a pretty nice re...
Las pistol + dueling sword for the commissar experience
blissful mural
well surge in general can stun the mutie
ember sentinel
Speaking of which: Purgatus staff: Unarmoured, Flak, or Infested damage? I alrea...
I run flak personally
But unarmored is good too
safe fulcrum
Okay lads, Hadron bout to ruin my whole life...
blissful mural
Las pistol + dueling sword for the commissar experience
I keep coming back to a different dueling sword and say "this is the good one" and then later I change my mind, which one do you use?
spice oar
I keep coming back to a different dueling sword and say "this is the good one" a...
The thrusting heavy one
blissful mural
witht he bird hilt?
safe fulcrum
Okay could be worse so far
ember sentinel
But idk if the others are good/bad
spice oar
But the thrust diagonal slash one is good too
spice oar
witht he bird hilt?
Bro what
blissful mural
one of the duelling swords has a bird aat the base of the guard
safe fulcrum
Precog 3...not great but not awful yet
blissful mural
i think its the one you mentioned
spice oar
A bird?
blissful mural
yeah
blissful mural
spice oar
I keep coming back to a different dueling sword and say "this is the good one" a...
But honestly all of them are good, havnt found a mk to be superior to another for me
blissful mural
see the little bird head?
spice oar
Yeah yeah that's cute
spice oar
I like the ribbon style more tho,
ember sentinel
I also like the emperor protects engraved on it
blissful mural
that engraving looks sick!
ember sentinel
Noticed it one day while blocking lol
blissful mural
and also its the only melee weapon i like putting the rossette on
Im always inspecting my weapons inthe elevator, i think i saw it then
glossy forge
bolts only i've been told
so not worth keeping the blessing?
ember sentinel
Yeah on trauma its useless
cold geode
i swear melk does this to taunt me
second time rampage 4 has come up for the devils claw and i dont have enough for it
ember sentinel
Rip
Melk usually doesnt give me anything good on psyker
Have 10k melk bucks because of it
He did give me a very good axe on vet tho
cold geode
to bad about the head taker, but its a nice axe, should work well even with that blessing instead of decimator
obtuse timber
Looking for help with the Head Honcho penance
rapid bear
I also need that and a couple others
We want to put together a Heracy private game?
Maybe we'll get lucky and get two monstrosities 😛
glossy forge
Yeah on trauma its useless
can i burn the staff and move it to a voidstike?
ember sentinel
to bad about the head taker, but its a nice axe, should work well even with that...
Yeah headtaker is unfort but tbh it still destroys everything
ember sentinel
can i burn the staff and move it to a voidstike?
Yeah it works on void but still isnt that great
ember sentinel
If you wanna just play around with it tho it works
glossy forge
probably not
just wanted to make sure i could put the blessing on a different staff type if i burn
glossy forge
ah
spice veldt
yeah our current staffs all belong to different families
obtuse timber
@rapid bear https://steamcommunity.com/id/tjoma96
glossy forge
might hold it then in case it gets buffed
orchid shadow
Yay! Shirtless is back on the menu!
glossy forge
rolled a new trauma and got rending 3 though
ember sentinel
Thats good
formal ridge
I keep coming back to a different dueling sword and say "this is the good one" a...
mark 2 or mark 5
blissful mural
right now its 5
formal ridge
mark 2 or mark 5
mark 2 if u go rending/shred; mark 5 if you go with dodge blessings (riposte/precog)
or mark 5 with riposte/shred
mark 5 has better dodge thats why I say that
and mark 2 has better quick attack patterns to spam shred/uncanny stacks
Idk about mark 4
ember sentinel
Mk 5 with uncanny isnt too bad either
formal ridge
ya im just saying optimal IMO
blissful mural
4 - the red one- is pretty dope
ember sentinel
I run uncanny/rampage with it and it does decently well
formal ridge
rampage is pointless IME
Ive only gotten it to proc on groaners
or by jumping in the air and hoping to proc it intentionally
formal ridge
none of them proc rampage
blissful mural
shred is decent
formal ridge
so its just unusuable
(cause why would you need help killing groaners)
I mean if groaners are mixed in a hoard but thats uncommon
ember sentinel
Oh really
blissful mural
precog may be good on them but idk
formal ridge
yeah try it again see how often it procs
ember sentinel
I didnt even realize it didnt work tbh
formal ridge
it rarely ever procs, like never
well message me if you see it proc
tell me how lol
ember sentinel
Uncanny probably doing all the work
formal ridge
yeah
ember sentinel
Esp since i have mk4
formal ridge
ddamn
ember sentinel
Er tier 4 i mean
ember sentinel
I am still trying to find tier 4 slaughterer
formal ridge
on what weapon
blissful mural
I am still trying to find tier 4 slaughterer
SAME
ember sentinel
For my illisi
formal ridge
ahh
blissful mural
also same
ember sentinel
I have 3
formal ridge
I got it lucky but I dont use illisi
blissful mural
tho all force swords share blessings
ember sentinel
Yeah makes it easier
formal ridge
Im playing trauma/shredder neiether of which have problems with hoard clear
blissful mural
and its still not found!
its getting rediculous how many other weapons i could have level up by now
formal ridge
lol
ember sentinel
Illisi trauma has been one of my favorites
formal ridge
do a different build then
glossy forge
love me some slaughterer
ember sentinel
And a trauma mood
ember sentinel
Yeah slaughterer def needs tuning
blissful mural
i think its more that the other stuff should be actually viable
ember sentinel
Mk 3 already just lets me light spam into hordes with illisi
ember sentinel
I agree a lot of things need to be made better but i think some of the really top end stuff needs a little changing
Vets with auto pistol kinda nullify even damnation rn
ember sentinel
I should use slaughter 4 just for the AB buff
Smart
formal ridge
I was trying exorcist cause I always blow myself up but I just need to get used to not going overboard
ember sentinel
Trauma is good at putting you over
formal ridge
I really have a problem with shooters tho
in pub damnation matches
they ruin matches
even if I have vets on the team
I need a really good solution
ember sentinel
Yeah trauma you just have to bb them or pick them off with LMB
Or just slide into them
If you can
formal ridge
I was considering going unarmoured/flak bonus on a staff just to LMB easier
ember sentinel
Yeah thats what i do
formal ridge
Ill have to make a new one
safe fulcrum
Voidstrike can pick them out from behind cover if you slide the shot just over them
Also, really down with the new cosmetics.
ember sentinel
Yeah void is my go to on more range heavy maps
New cosmetics are great
The new headpieces look good with the old penance gear as well as the new cape
north cradle
I had a Veteran tell me that he hates me because the cape makes me look like a sniper, and the Lasgun doesn't help
glossy forge
is transfer peril or warp flurry better for trauma
arctic roost
I don't play psyker so I gotta ask. Is there any benefit to using a gun over a staff?
north cradle
is transfer peril or warp flurry better for trauma
Can you even do Weak Spot damage with a Trauma staff?
ember sentinel
is transfer peril or warp flurry better for trauma
Flurry
Transfer doesn't really work
north cradle
I don't play psyker so I gotta ask. Is there any benefit to using a gun over a s...
I like playing Gun Psyker on occasion because I feel that with the Warp Unleashed buff and passive quell buff, I can handle my own for quite a bit
I will run a Voidstrike staff if I see two Bolters or Flamers on the team though
And if there are no Flamers or Ogryns, Purgatus
Haven't really found much use in Surge Staff and Trauma Staff
If Fatshark ever gives us a Beam Staff, I'm using the hell out of it
karmic delta
I don't play psyker so I gotta ask. Is there any benefit to using a gun over a s...
Shredder is an excellent pick for a Gun Psyker build
north cradle
I'm the Lasgun enjoyer personally. It helps me pick off regular shooter enemies
north cradle
I don't trust Veterans to take care of shooters while I focus Elites lol
karmic delta
I dont personally thing that we have to be good at everything
north cradle
Ideally, yes, but your teammates' weapons can betray their playstyle
If Veteran is running Bolter, they're definitely prioritising Elites and Specialists, Ogryns especially
More power to them, but Psyker is practically tailor-made to deal with Bulwarks and Crushers
karmic delta
Ideally Bolter players should build their stacks by going after Shooters
and not 2 round bursting everything
Thankfully people are getting better
north cradle
When I play Veteran, I try to pick off one Reaper in between shooters, and during arenas, I let my teammates do all the melee while I look out for shooters and Specialists
Anyone in a data interrogator sequence knows the benefits of having a Veteran who actually prioritises shooters
north cradle
I'd love to use Bolter on my Zealot, but I don't think it's worth using at all on my Veteran
ember sentinel
Yeah i always liked bolter for being able to easily pick off anything from long range in a shot or 2
Plus it CCs whatever it doesnt kill
Mag dumping it can clear a room obviously but i never got the playstyle of just taking it out to dump into a bulwark or crusher and going back to melee
valid marsh
worth it?
long wharf
for Slaughterer 4 alone, yes
valid marsh
my current one
fresh steeple
finally, FINALLY, I got a good Voidstrike to try out
with the option of level 4 Transfer if I can find it
blissful mural
transfer peril is os broken on the voidstrike
i love it
with quiet tide its just chef's kiss
cyan notch
its darktide not quiet tide
fresh steeple
wondering whether to use Warp Unleashed for more damage or Inner Tranquility for more casts
I feel like WU is the appropriate option in that case so I can one-shot key targets with BBs. That's the biggest frustration I've had with IT on Trauma Staff
do you full-charge shot with TP Voidstrike before building five stacks of Flurry?
blissful mural
its darktide not quiet tide
was that a joke?
imo- this is the best combination for the void staff, you shoot gaint energy balls for as long as you have enemies to shoot them at. and with quietide you get toughness too.
cyan notch
yea warp unleashed letting u 1 shot ragers and bursters and flamers etc is really good
pine relic
Just finished all the new penance.
I finished all the penance but haven't picked a book.
fresh steeple
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> I finished all the penance but haven't picked ...
what absolute lunatic does penances without plasteel+diamantine rerolls?
crude cape
anyone still play vt2? Think its worth picking up + dlc to mess around with? Love darktide but thought that could be fun while wait for patch, is sienna as fun as psyker?