psyker-class

[ember sentinel]

I run 3 1 1 2 1 3

[spice veldt]

i dont use void so i can't say

[ember sentinel]

Can change out warp charge on elite kill for more F's if you want but i prefer the warp charges cause i dont BB a ton

Not enough to keep up 6 at least

If you prefer peril block its fine too i just like dmg reduction for free

[olive ember]

Communion warp battery 🤔

[primal fjord]

Is Deimos bad to use with void?

[ember sentinel]

Eh its fine

Both swords are good enough

[olive ember]

Deimos is just stupid single target dmg so yeah

[ember sentinel]

Void struggles to kill elites anyway

[olive ember]

I mean as long as you have some horde clear deimos is good

It’s basically a dueling sword

Except infinite dodges

[ember sentinel]

I find deimos with slaughterer horde clears very well anyway

[olive ember]

And a stupid single target destroying stab on top

I hate it

[ember sentinel]

Its not illsi but its good

[olive ember]

Can’t use that thing for shit

So I just use illisi or obscures and yeah

[cyan notch]

skill issue

[olive ember]

And he’s here

Yep

[ember sentinel]

Like you cant use the big stab

Or the light 1 stab

[olive ember]

I just can't use the weapon in general

kekw

[fierce sinew]

deimos is godlike

[olive ember]

disgust

fucking deimos

[cyan notch]

this mf spittin fax fr

[olive ember]

anyways thats enough darktide for now

back to failing my finals!

[cyan notch]

[ember sentinel]

Deimos is in fact insane

There was a period where i thought it was better than illsi

But i have since gone back to illsi being better

[fierce sinew]

they're both the best at the thing they do, I don't think there's a meaningful direct comparison to be made between them

[ember sentinel]

Yeah thats fair

[spice veldt]

if I were playing melee-only, I'd choose the illisi over the deimos

[ember sentinel]

Honestly i might go deimos if ive got slaughterer

Both could do it

[fierce sinew]

that's exactly the kind of thing I treat as true but not really meaningful

[ember sentinel]

But if i have to melee everything to death

[spice veldt]

meaningful to me since I try to use melee as much as I can

having to ever use my trauma staff sucks

throwing enemies around but unfortunately being the best option in a situation

[fierce sinew]

you can construct a specific use case in which one or the other is more applicable, but that's really just restating the same thing

[spice veldt]

I'm not saying that one is better

I like to melee more than using ranged and generally prefer illisi to be more generalist

[fierce sinew]

by same thing I'm referring to

[spice veldt]

you don't see me shitting on the combat knife too much

[fierce sinew]

this

[spice veldt]

does it have to be meaningful?

[fierce sinew]

I'm not saying it's wrong or bad to say it or anything

[spice veldt]

I'm already constructing an absurd situation by saying "melee-only"

[sick isle]

SIR MELK WOW

[cold geode]

nice

[primal fjord]

It's not the best, but decent for first gold void staff. Got SUPER lucky with emperior gift just now, being void staff with Transfer Peril. So I just washed the Surge blessing away. Will pop up again later I bet...

[umbral ember]

Trying to get the new Blessed by Fate/Master Survival penance completed, am I missing something though? I've been using the Psykinetic's Wrath at 100% peril and still it's not counting towards the penance...

[cyan notch]

u gotta start the explode animation

[umbral ember]

That'll do it then, thank you!

[ember sentinel]

Yeah just run illsi and then cancel the explosion animation every once in a while

Youll get it in no time

[civic jungle]

Does rending shockwave actually do much on this thing? 🤔

Actually I guess I'm not sure how it works, does brittleness apply on the first attack itself, or does the attack make subsequent attacks do more damage? 🤔

[spice veldt]

I'm 80% sure that debuffs don't apply to the hit that applied it
you could RMB some poxwalkers to check if it does

if you don't one-shot them, then it doesn't

[civic jungle]

I tried RMB on the crusher and the first hit and subsequent hits (on full charge) seemed to do basically the same amount

[spice veldt]

trauma already deals 100% damage to carapace

so it receives no benefit from brittleness

[civic jungle]

I guess the ability does work since illisi doubles its damage against the crusher, but nothing else

[spice veldt]

the only armour type that it does <100% damage to are infested enemies (poxwalkers/bursters/hounds) at 75% damage

[civic jungle]

So this is just to help my allies do damage? D:

[spice veldt]

pretty much

your melee and allies

[civic jungle]

😔

[spice veldt]

and really only affecting crushers/mauler heads because carapace is the main armour type that most weapons suck against

I should probably be swapping back to my other trauma staff with flurry instead of rending

[civic jungle]

Would it help against monstrosities?

Seems like the latest update, even with increased damnation health modifier, made monstrosities die real fast

[spice veldt]

monstrosities (except the assassination captain) are unyielding

so if your teammate's weapons deal <100% damage to unyielding

rending/brittleness doesn't affect damage modifiers to specific body parts iirc; only damage modifiers due to armour type

trauma is particularly good on the beast of nurgle because of it takes 2x explosion damage

though they might have made some ninja changes

[civic jungle]

hm, interesting

[dawn crypt]

are the perks fucked?

or is it salvageable

[gloomy yarrow]

Keep slaughterer

Thats an amazing blessing

Get unstable power or deflector instead of exorcist

[dawn crypt]

What should i do with the perks

[gloomy yarrow]

Keep specialists it helps with vaporizing trappers

I forget what armor they have but get that one

[dawn crypt]

ah same thing someone else told me

[gloomy yarrow]

Yeah I use it to evaporate trappers

[dawn crypt]

he told me to : change exorcist to unstable or uncanny

[gloomy yarrow]

If not go for maniac or carapace

[dawn crypt]

yep u both told me carapace and keep specialist

cool awesome

[sick isle]

Witness

[dawn crypt]

o wow 2 max rolls

what do u guys think is the perfect contracts rolls?

[wanton sandal]

anything killing

[gloomy yarrow]

Also collecting resources, very easy 1k credits if you get plasteel and diamantine

[wanton sandal]

grims and scrips might be the most annoying one

slightly less so if you choose to do scrips

[gloomy yarrow]

But that’s if the scrips don’t spawn out of bounds

[runic gate]

Pretty nice for 1700 melkcoin

[dawn crypt]

Wow

[gloomy yarrow]

Low finesse

[runic gate]

What Blessings yall run on Illisi?

[gloomy yarrow]

Slaughterer

[ember sentinel]

unstable/slaughterer

you can replace unstable with deflector if you prefer

[cold geode]

unstable might not be great considering how high the resistance is

[vestal raven]

slaughter deflector should be fine

comfort/reliable roll ezpz

[cold geode]

at 51% resist, i get to 96.60 peril in 4 strokes

5 total to get to 100%

[near wyvern]

The best roll gets 100 in 3 strokes

[wanton sandal]

force sword is a hell of a drug

[odd flax]

what's the best force sword

or even the differences between them, I can see the combos are different, but so far I can't really tell

[spice veldt]

the force swords that aren't the obscurus are pretty strong

notably, deimos' 1st light and 2nd heavy stabs deal more damage than the sweeping lights and heavies

illisi has the power sword special

Obscurus and Deimos have the same special that deals 200% to flak and 100% to everything else, though the Deimos have the stabs which mitigate the need for the special
Obscurus also has the stab as the 3rd light, but that's pretty far into the light chain

[wanton sandal]

i quite like the deimos

personally

[forest coral]

deimos is great

Illisi is more flexible as an all rounder

Illisi is also a tad overtuned imo

[wanton sandal]

granted i use voidstrike for cqc

[spice veldt]

I absolutely love the illisi because of how ridiculous it is

[wanton sandal]

did it always expend on one hit?

[spice veldt]

if it's still in the same state when we get a burst ranged single-target DPS staff, then I'll be surprised

yup

[wanton sandal]

damn

[spice veldt]

but the illisi inherits the infinite dodges of the blaze force swords

[wanton sandal]

thought it cleaved at least twice or thrice before

[spice veldt]

so you can just spam that shit

oh there used to be a bug where the special didn't get consumed

if you blocked before your swing finished or hit its cleave limit

but that was fixed for both the power swords and illisi

[forest coral]

Also the illisi is basically a heavy sword in its unpowered state, there's no instance where it's weak

[spice veldt]

it was a bit hard to abuse on the illisi because of the faster swing speed on the 1st heavy as far as I could tell

[wanton sandal]

also gonna say that the deimos has the best appearance

spear lookin mf

[spice veldt]

a bit too hooky for my tastes but I do dig the mass that it seems to have

compared to the spindly illisi

if I had my way, I'd swap their models around

• Deimos replaced by the Illisi model (because of the stabs)
• Obscurus replaced by the Deimos model (because of the sweep and stab)
• Illisi replaced by the Obscurus model (because of the sweeps)

[ionic needle]

Is there a difference between the illisi and obscurus models?

[cyan notch]

illisi is thinner and longer

[fierce sinew]

I use one of the docket skins to give my deimos the illisi look

the flared point is a little much for me

[spice veldt]

shame that the skins only exist for only the illisi

[ionic needle]

Oh yeah I see it now

[spice veldt]

can't even use the mortis skins of one force sword on the other force swords

[fierce sinew]

are some of them restricted?

I thought all of them could be used with any

[spice veldt]

so far, you can only use the mortis skin on their respective force swords

e.g., can only use the Mortis Obscurus skin/model on the Obscurus; can't apply it to the Deimos or Illisi

I haven't checked since the patch came out if they let go of this restriction though

[cyan notch]

funny enough the camo skins from the armory shop are illisi skins

they just didnt give the weapon to us till later on

[fierce sinew]

yeah it's pretty nice

[long glacier]

should I switch out bloodthirsty for deflector?

[white cedar]

depend on your playstyle and confident in dodging

If you are good at dodging you can switch Bloodthirsty into Riposte/Shred/Uncanny Strike

For me, I need comfort so I choose Deflector for panic bullet block

[fierce sinew]

unstable

[river sand]

i would prefer unstable over deflector. but thats up to you, bloodthirsty sucks cause especially on deimos you nearly never use the special. you should get + maniac as well for the miraculous mutie one shot

[long glacier]

thx I might go with unstable cuz thats the only one I got other than deflector

[fierce sinew]

it's a good one to have, it's the most damage aside from slaughterer

[river sand]

its really depends on your personal dodge game. if you dont get hit by shooters anyway, why bother with deflector ?

[fierce sinew]

and it's actually on right when you swap unlike slaughterer

[long glacier]

yeah I dont really block with the fs

[river sand]

this particular sword might even be able to oneshot muties if you switch unyielding to manic and take warp unleashed without any peril. should be tested

[fierce sinew]

I'd switch melee weak spot damage

I like unyielding a lot on deimos

and weakspot damage perks will always be a joke until they adjust them

[crude cape]

im a force sword simp these days...but just got this from emperors reward
any good or nah? 29 mobility tho lol

[river sand]

deimos is the only one that can make weak spot usefull cause of the ridiculous ws modifier

[fierce sinew]

it's still a big whatever compared to real perks though

[river sand]

but with unyielding + maniac, unstable cant be wrong

[spice veldt]

same weakspot multiplier but its normal attacks just do more base damage

[fierce sinew]

and deimos double click sustained dps on monstros is worth leaning into

depending on your roll it might matter against reaper but I haven't looked too much

the only time I'd go weakspot over unyielding there is if your damage rolls were such that you couldn't one tap mutie without it

[crude cape]

i know the heavy poke is really good, but it can be risky. the special is a guaranteed kill most the time + stun on ragers, maulers etc

[fierce sinew]

that breakpoint is for sure more important

[crude cape]

Idk if that makes bloodthirsty good, but, i dont find "never use special on deimos" to be true really

[fierce sinew]

...but unstable fixes that usually

[fierce sinew]

h2 is better almost always

[unborn egret]

I’m new to psyker (used to playing ogryn). How do psykers do a lot of damage? I am using the Illisi (no slaughterer yet) and switching between the void staff and trauma staff. I think my staff usage is probably not enough, I spend a lot of time cleaving the horde, and I suspect overuse brain burst. My damage output compared to teammates is just not very good. What are the top mistakes people make here?

[crude cape]

not if it makes you take a smack from a swinging rager when the special "sticks" to them and pulls them out of the animation

[spice veldt]

can't go wrong with your damage output if you're using the illisi

[crude cape]

sure, the h2 is amazing and used more, but theres tons and tons of close call situations, no time to double attack, dodge, activate hit a rager. it happens a decent bit in my experience on damnation /shrug

[fierce sinew]

if you're hitting rager more than once you made a mistake

h2 kills in one hit

[spice veldt]

positioning might be one thing to work on

with brain burst, you can sprint-slide while it's casting

same with all other staffs except the voidstrike (you can carry a sprint into an RMB, but you won't be able to start a sprint while RMBing)

[crude cape]

if you're fully stacks + have a bis deimos or crit. I dont think it ALWAYS 1 shots

[spice veldt]

and abusing the infinite dodges of the illisi is something to do

[fierce sinew]

L1 isn't even that much slower than activation

[crude cape]

i love how if given the chance, i can just kite a daemonhost with infinite dodges lol

[fierce sinew]

and you're not animation locked after

[crude cape]

its riskier tho, the monster you're targeting can often swing at you same time and hit you back...or you miss the head....or a number of things

sometimes its just slightly quicker and safer to special it

[fierce sinew]

h2 reaches dummy far

you have more space than you think

[crude cape]

not really against rager swings/mauler swings and crusher swings

[spice veldt]

dodges do two things against melee attacks

• Break the tracking of enemies
• Put you in a melee dodge state of some sort
  Some melee attacks can't have their tracking broken (such as Rager combos).
  Some melee attacks also ignore your dodge state (like the running attacks of many enemies)

Against a group of groaners/poxwalkers/bruisers, their running melee attacks are the ones that will catch you. While they ignore your dodge state, they can have their tracking broken. So you'll want to spam some sideways dodges to basically get out of their melee hitbox

[crude cape]

those are the times i find myself using it

against those 3, when im pressed

when i have room to breath, ya i h2 poke

[fierce sinew]

you can just send it and dodge every time with close to zero risk

[crude cape]

most of the time

[fierce sinew]

deimos dodge is busted

[spice veldt]

so just go really deep into enemies, spam dodge, and then spam the special with illisi to get those sweet kills and damage

[crude cape]

also, its lame to never use the special brain pop activation on the special brain pop activation sword, gotta admit

sometimes i use it bc i just can

and it gets the job done

[fierce sinew]

my "panic" state is mashing dodge rather than an activation that locks me in place idk

[unborn egret]

I’ve also noticed fighting horde is not as trivial as with the ogryn. Ogryn, everything in a horde dies or is staggered. With the Illisi, stuff is still there and hits back, so there is a lot of back dodging and circle striving involved, and fighting in a big open area like at the end of missions is significantly more dangerous. Also, one mistake generally equals instant death unless I was at 100%.

[fierce sinew]

like it's probably not horrible all the time or anything, but I actually can't off the top of my head think of when activating is actually correct

[spice veldt]

probably just the dodges then

I can fight pretty fine in open spaces, but I also have an insane amount of hours with force swords

I do think that exploiting the infinite dodges and dodging sideways should almost always guarantee not getting hit against a horde

[crude cape]

the open areas on some missions are the worst. im always surrounded no matter how much i back peddle dodge lol

so frustrating

[fierce sinew]

you can be surrounded and it's completely okay

force sword dodge is braindead

[crude cape]

you can, but half the time i think im in the clear then SMACK

lmao

[spice veldt]

backwards dodging is a bit of a trap against many enemies

[fierce sinew]

there's the mistake, no thinking

head empty

depress "I am untouchable" key

[crude cape]

i turned around 2 days ago and saw 2 scabs spawn right behind me

like out of thin air

was like a "so thats where they come from" moment

[fierce sinew]

ai director does that on purpose

[spice veldt]

that happens during that multi-level section of smelter complex; just observed it yesterday

[crude cape]

i WAS away from my team looking for resources lol

[spice veldt]

if you go down into the lower level immediately and across the bridge, enemies don't spawn until you seem to reach a certain place

[fierce sinew]

the random disruptive one or two guys are spawned behind you on purpose

to "encourage" you to stay together

[crude cape]

THE WORST

lol

but i get why they have it

btw, is this worth buying?

[fierce sinew]

also if you want an easier answer to horde management and padding your scoreboard numbers consider purg

the play pattern of "everything in front of me is staggered or dead" should be familiar

[crude cape]

purg is so braindead ngl lmao

i love it

with HP bar mod on, its super satisfying watching hordes melting

[fierce sinew]

you also get practical access to 6 charge AB shouts, which may as well be a "trigger damage banter dialogue" button

you can definitely do that with illisi, that's just more situational and more work

[unborn egret]

I want to learn to use the staffs that are preferred in high intensity/shock troops, and not pick up bad habits from using stuff that is easy and decent, but not top tier. But I don’t really know, I couldn’t get a good idea of which staffs I should be using, they all seem to have their niches. Surge seemed supporty and relying on teammates, purg the “easy” one that is very good, trauma the hard to use one (so I’m trying to lean it), and void the middle of the road one.

[crude cape]

'trigger damage banter" theres a specific banter when what, someone does a lot of dmg or gets a lot of kills?

[fierce sinew]

you've definitely heard them

[crude cape]

is that one of the lines when the teammates go "woah, glad we brought the psyker" or something like that

[fierce sinew]

"what if the freak is a danger to us?"

yes

[crude cape]

ahh

cool

[fierce sinew]

"the psyker bears watching" etc

[crude cape]

i didnt realize that was why

very cool

ya the AB stacking mini game with purg staff, vent it, keep flaming, get more back burn everything etc

is very fun

and with a deimos sword paired (ily still works, but you don't need the horde clear melee) to poke the melee elites

its a dope build

[fierce sinew]

purg scales the best in hi5 variants and void+surge the worst because of cleave/target limits

[spice veldt]

void puts most of its eggs in the "range" basket

and most maps aren't nearly as expansive to warrant it

[fierce sinew]

in particular if you're trying to make a tier list-adjacent calculus purg is what you should be learning

[crude cape]

I do notice tho in 5, the horde dies noticeably slower to purg staff bc of the increased HP, its much easier to get overwhelmed. Where as on tier 4, they die too fast to ever reach you if you keep flaming lol

[fierce sinew]

the main thing is no matter how thick the enemies are, you hit them

[crude cape]

ya

absolutely

[fierce sinew]

purg and trauma don't care

[spice veldt]

only (shielded) bulwarks and walls are stopping that shit

[crude cape]

and then you utl drop 6 stacks on them too

[fierce sinew]

the other two can just be buried by volume

[crude cape]

itll even stagger ogryns/bulwarks

not if they charge with shield up ofc but

if you make contact, staggers quickly

i just dont use the M1 flame puff a lot

but ppl say its good

[fierce sinew]

it's incredibly good

[crude cape]

mostly to stagger or finish a few stragglers who are low

[fierce sinew]

especially with deimos

[crude cape]

how so/when you use it?

[fierce sinew]

you push rager->click his head

purg makes headshots trivial

[crude cape]

why not just push with deimos, or back dodge into step forward poke?

guess its quicker if staff is out, m1, swap, poke?

[fierce sinew]

because purg left click is more stagger than push, and more range

[spice veldt]

push-attack knocks enemies down away from you

[fierce sinew]

and costs no stamina

[unborn egret]

So purg + Deimos is the combo? I’m assuming because you don’t need Illisi for horde clear with a purge staff.

[crude cape]

rlyy?

[spice veldt]

purg LMB just knocks em back into a standing stagger state

[fierce sinew]

yes

[spice veldt]

that too, the purg LMB having infinite cleave

[fierce sinew]

it's a juiced push

that goes through everything

you stop ragers etc and hold them in place until you get bored

[crude cape]

only 3 stagger to carapace so not everything lol

[fierce sinew]

right, crushers excepted

[crude cape]

9-13 stagger on ragers and others

how much is push?

[fierce sinew]

crushers you have to bb

or just be elsewhere

[spice veldt]

not sure

[crude cape]

ya, i do usually bb ogryns in general

but sometimes they in your face

[spice veldt]

I know that for dreg ragers, they need like something along the lines of two melee pushes to get staggered

[crude cape]

and not feasible

[fierce sinew]

other ogryns are faster to deimos

[spice veldt]

and can't be in their combo state

[fierce sinew]

well bulwarks you usually bb to move the shield and then one tap them

with deimos

[crude cape]

Ya

or just hold flamer on them while they open up to swing, dodge, keep flaming and stagger them while also killing a horde they're in

dont. stop. flaming.

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

but ya, BB+poke combo is def the goat on shield bois

[potent echo]

Yea continuing to flame is definitely best, your teammates should be able to kill the gryns but the horde mixed behind the carapace is the problem only flamers can solve

[primal plume]

What if Mind in Motion also affected casting and channeling

[crude cape]

ya

final game before bed, tier 5

flamer + deimos

crushed

the zealot did a good job w/ the ranged elites, which i only have BB for. But look at that 31 melee elites. Deimos OP lol

good teammates overall, which hard to find in solo q

[analog locust]

hi, I'm creating my first char and idk why it doesn´t let me write that name

[analog locust]

wow, that's cool

[crude cape]

not been brave enough to try high-5, just getting comfortable in normal 5s finally but that was one of my best damnation wins for sure

[neat sand]

Take out the - (I think the red information is in french?) - is the illegal character I believe

[analog locust]

is any way to separate the 2 parts of the name? (the name and the roman numbers)

[analog locust]

it's spanish

[crude cape]

don't think so

[neat sand]

Thanks I have learned something new 🙂

I don't believe there are spaces available in names but they are bound to your steam name so you can have multiple ogryn named Bob on missions

[analog locust]

oh, ok, DanielXXXVII then

thx

[neat sand]

Np

[analog locust]

oooohh, isn't that

it's bcs 30 in roman numbers is ilegal name

xD

I changed the number and now it let me use -

xD

[spice veldt]

the name creation thingy has some weird filters

I couldn't name my characters "Arcotash"

or not even "Arco"

[fluid cove]

Finally got a good trauma staff, thanks Melk!

[neat sand]

Very nice

[ornate hamlet]

hello peopls

for the 4th feat, i heard that the peril dmg resist is also melee dmg too is this true?

[crude trout]

I believe this is only for toughness damage

[cyan notch]

yes

[spice veldt]

yeah it also affects melee toughness damage

[ocean cipher]

i was today years old when i found out psyker's f stops the explosion

[marsh token]

Daniel-XXXVI should work

[glad glade]

hey psyker gang, do the force swords share their blessings?

[spice veldt]

yep

[glad glade]

One more Force Sword question: In what case is the Deimos better than Obscurus?

[cyan notch]

in dodge in single target damage in light spam horde clear in boss damage

[ornate hamlet]

anyone knows how to unlock this? I have completed both penances after the launch and didnt play much ever since and returned recently, and I dont seem to have this penance completed

[cold geode]

Pray to the Emperor

[ornate hamlet]

I guess thats the only thing left lmao

[cyan notch]

negative quell lmao

[cold geode]

Or put in a ticket to fatshark customer service on the forums

https://support.fatshark.se/hc/en-us/requests/new

[ornate hamlet]

yeah will try, I just thought someone already had that issue and somehow resolved it

[quasi pier]

Yea it's been documented, just have to wait until they fix it. They moved another requirement from it but I guess didn't set a way for it to update

[kind jay]

the new drip is not too shabby

or just the right amount of shabby

still hate the collar but the cape makes up for it

[ornate hamlet]

Prueba a activar Windows 😉 nah es por culpa de la "-" No puedes poner caracteres especiales en el nombre

[cyan notch]

0 damage

[undone badge]

the new penance costume is a hobo suit but I love it

[granite dust]

it's "homeless edition 2023"

[undone badge]

it's got a cape and pipe bombs attached. a reference to how psykers can blow themselves up maybe

[spice veldt]

nah they're clearly vials of pocket sand

for emergency use

[cyan notch]

will we run out of ammo in the first 5mins

stay tuned

[spice veldt]

ammo isn't real

[hidden crystal]

Yes.

[kind jay]

you can play the ammo minigame now. tag ammo and watch all 3 haul ass

give points to whoever gets there first

sometimes you gotta make your own content

[uneven drift]

Can confirm. Had such games twice. Also they will shot bursters which right in their face.

[cyan notch]

not looking great

[supple skiff]

lmaooo

[kind jay]

imma need to know how that run ended

[cyan notch]

fine actually

pretty smooth

[fathom adder]

Autopistols do burn through ammo but they burn through elites and specials in the process

[glad glade]

Psykers, something seems broken with Soulblaze / Blazing Spirit / Wildfire. It doesn't seem to stack correckly and is ridiculously weak. Is this intended?

[cold oasis]

As i always said, on Damnation is pretty shit

[spice veldt]

staff blazing spirit has a cap I think?

same goes for wildfire, where it won't target enemies that already have 4 or more soulblaze stacks

wrack & ruin has a cap of 31 stacks if nothing has changed

[glad glade]

Yes, my force sword stops at 12 stacks, wildfire at 4. Indeed worthless on Damnation

[cyan notch]

blazing is 6 or something on staffs

[spice veldt]

soulblaze feats/blessings are mostly meh

people have apparently gotten blazing spirit + warp nexus to work on the trauma

[cold oasis]

Again, can you make it playable? Sure. Even as it is it's playable, but by god it's just bad overall

[glad glade]

Thought this will burn through the enemies but it hits like a wet noodle.

[steel egret]

I mean

[spice veldt]

yeah especially with shred getting dropped on special activation

[steel egret]

It functions on any staff

[glad glade]

Shred gets stacked by soulblaze though

[spice veldt]

ahhhhhhh right

[glad glade]

so its up 90% of the time. But soulblaze is too weak

So back to slaughterer I guess

[cold oasis]

I mean, it is fun seeing everything on fire even if it's just meh :p

[graceful eagle]

had same result with this one lol

[glad glade]

We'll just wait until FS fixes it in May 2024

[empty mesa]

Was gonna say I think the power sword would just kill anything before burn takes effect lol

[graceful eagle]

fatshark is too afraid to make soulbalze somehow usefull. at shit point they should just remove it

[spice veldt]

part of the reason is prob because of purg's existence

just the feats having such a low soulblaze amount

[graceful eagle]

the only time i find it usefull is when abusing it with pinned fire on autopistol

[spice veldt]

if the trauma or purg didn't exist, then I'd see them being pretty nice

and in the case of wrack & ruin, if warp unleashed didn't exist

ascendant blaze at least has that massive range coverage

[gray spoke]

omg hair 😳

[spice veldt]

I just now found out that the hub hotkeys mod allows you to access the mourningstar shops within the meatgrinder

very cool

[supple skiff]

modders really out here putting in QOl that would take fatshark 4 years to implement

[iron star]

is that good?

i have no idea about that staff

[gloomy yarrow]

Warp flurry instead of surge

Then it’s good

[iron star]

if i found it ok and i need change the perk the 1st one at least

[acoustic gulch]

why not surge?

[gloomy yarrow]

It’s pretty meh cuz it only does the primary attack to my knowledge

[iron star]

what should i change for unyielding enemies?

[gloomy yarrow]

I wouldn’t say anything, boss and ogryn damage never hurt anyone

[iron star]

kk

[spice veldt]

I personally like +unarmoured on trauma

[gloomy yarrow]

But infestated I’d replace with groaners

[spice veldt]

to one-shot dreg bruisers (450 hp)

[iron star]

OP i found 25+ unyielding enemies

i think its perfect now

😄

[spice veldt]

for the trauma staff, here's my personal order of priority for the stats
Charge Rate > Blast Radius > Quell Speed > Warp Resistance > Damage

charge rate and blast radius are highest because of how hard they scale

I put quell speed over warp resistance because I use quietude

damage is the lowest because you can hit the one-shot breakpoint on dreg bruisers with just 60% damage (assuming no warp charges or warp unleashed) with the help of +25% unarmoured and whatnot; and there really aren't any other important breakpoints to hit off the top of my head

[strange canyon]

does anyone know if Keep Your Distance has to be 3 missions in a row or just 3 missions ever?

[spice veldt]

I believe it's 3 missions ever

I haven't done that many missions and I still got it

[strange canyon]

that would be significantly nicer

[gloomy yarrow]

Wrong, only stats that matter are qs, res, and charge for ruining every bets day

[river sand]

charge most important no question, blast radius actually scale near to nothing, so its not that important

[spice veldt]

1.5 to 2.5 for the epicentre and 2 to 10 for the outer radius

as a panic option and against shooters, I prefer a high blast radius

since the outer radius will interrupt the volleys of shooters/gunners/shotgunners (albeit for a very very brief moment) and buy some space against groaners/poxwalkers for revives (since I don't run kinetic deflection)

and just chunking groups of shooters with the epicentre

though for a trauma staff that's as non-chaotic as possible, 0% blast radius isn't that bad I suppose

1.5 epicentre and 2 outer area

I still like blast radius

[river sand]

trauma blast radius at 79% is 2.29 / 8.32 and at 55%its 2.05 and 6.40

so everything above 65% is totally fine for blast radius

my perfect trauma would be 80 damage and charge rate and 75% for the rest

[spice veldt]

if we were to measure area, it'd be a 20% increase from 55% to 79%

[river sand]

with 70 for warp resistance

[spice veldt]

I discount damage because there's not that many important breakpoints that I can think of
as long as I can one-shot all the non-elite/specials with trauma without relying too much on warp unleashed or warp charges, then I'm fine with it

380 dmg being only a 5.55% increase over 360 if we're ignoring stuff like breakpoints

only really have to watch out for scab bruisers (400 hp), dreg stalkers (400 hp), dreg bruisers (450 hp)
Poxwalkers are a bit eh, but I don't consider them too much a priority for my trauma since I don't use trauma for pure groaners/poxwalkers hordes

[nocturne kettle]

are the new penance acquired helmets bugged for the moment? they dont seem to be appearing in my cosmetics

[river sand]

nope they are fine

interesting is the penances .. somehow on psyker and vet i finished t1 helmet last so i get all 3 together ...

[strange canyon]

just tested inadvertently and yeah it's 3 total missions not consecutive

[atomic forum]

i got jumpscared by a mauler in a train and almost got oneshot last mission so that one definitely didn't count

oh wow the psykana meditation helm finally usable with hair added back

[magic burrow]

my headcanon is that psychic powers makes you mald so that's why my psyker is bald

[steel flame]

yah know, much as i love the illi sword, ive come back to using the knife again for my shredder build and its survivability is just stupid

[graceful eagle]

how does knife increase survivability?

[orchid shadow]

Hadron : And what do we have here? Me : Garbage! You've ruined it! It's garbage and you know it!

[shy prairie]

Accept the blessing of the 8.5% reload speed

[steel flame]

Massive dodges stupid good block efficiency, you can dash with the heavy which moves faster than enemies can pursue you so it's easy to disengage

[lament sonnet]

It is the Omnissiah's will.

[graceful eagle]

i'll rather stick with infinite dodge and deflector

love knife on my zealot tho

[ionic needle]

Swap weak spot for flak and cavalcade for pinning fire and it's good

[slender wharf]

What's the funniest way to play psyker

I don't care about maximum damage or any of that crap

Whats gonna make me go "heheheha"

[paper gate]

funny bowling ball staff go boomboomboomboom when hit lot

[wanton sandal]

maximus purgatus

or gun psyker with cerebral lacerations

[slender wharf]

Hehehaha

[wanton sandal]

also yeah bowling warpball is funny when you spam it with quell cancels

[paper gate]

bullying a sniper with the staff smacks is also a good time

[weak plover]

anyone has problems with penances not penancing at the monent? last match I finished three penances - I got the pop up..but penances in the menu didnt update for me

[ionic needle]

That depends on what makes you go "hehehehe"

[slender wharf]

What makes you go "heheheha"?

[ionic needle]

I think it's hilarious popping open a bulwark with pw and shoot the face with my shredder

Or run head first into a crowd of ragers, tip them over and mow them down before they get up again

Seeing a bomber/sniper really far away while slashing a crowd of zombies and proceeding to push them all away, swap to BB, pop the head and continue slashing the crowd of zombies

[fallow gale]

Can we get rid of "Keep your distance" penance?

[wanton sandal]

what's wrong with it

[fallow gale]

everything

[spice veldt]

it wasn't that bad for me

[split oxide]

I did it .. it was hard - depends on your team more than you.
If they charge in like zellies, you either follow and take a hit or you hang back and get screwed

[spice veldt]

just ragers that you need to watch out for

[fallow gale]

yea and they said they will fix these kind of penances

[fierce sinew]

I finished it in my first 3 missions after the patch without knowing it existed

how are you going around getting bopped by maulers etc

[ionic needle]

I did it by accident on damnation

[fallow gale]

I did one

[wanton sandal]

skill issue ig

[fallow gale]

and after that even when nothing was near me I didnt get another

[wanton sandal]

just gotta be vigilant and hope your team takes the frontline

[split oxide]

It's only 3 missions, just play a good game and don't dwell on it.. it will happen eventally.

[wanton sandal]

elites are muties, dogs, and ogryns, right?

[split oxide]

NO

[fallow gale]

yea even when mutant or dog jumps on me i didnt get it

[wanton sandal]

ok

[fallow gale]

so idk

even a normal heretic

[split oxide]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies
Monstrosities > Elites > Specialists > Horde

[wanton sandal]

weird way of classifying them ig

maulers and ragers get stunned by fs attacks that aren't illsi

those are the only real threats

[split oxide]

Do what you want - but don't avoid hits from specialsts if it means you risk touching an Elite.

[wanton sandal]

kinetic deflection might be useful

[split oxide]

Tank the hit from muties, dogs or even 'BB explsions' as long as you don't get hit by Elite.
All are easy to outrun - except ragers and chargers.

[obtuse moth]

eh? thats how the game classifies them and how your perks and feats do too

[split oxide]

Hounds and Muties are 'Specialists' and fine to take a hit from.

[obtuse moth]

bosses, stronk enemies, special enemies (flames)/disablers/snipers/explodies), a nd everything else

[split oxide]

remember to avoid MELEE damage, you can still take shots from them.

Just KEEP . YOUR . DISTANCE .

[obtuse moth]

basically elites and specialists are everything you can tag, specialists are the taggables that arent elits

[split oxide]

Don't care about 'tags'... the ones you gotta worry about are the ones that spawn round the corner behind the pillar.

Getting shot by flamers is fine.. getting kicked by one just wasted your run.

[obtuse moth]

? i was talking about classifications

[ionic needle]

Flamers are specialists though, right?

[split oxide]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies my bad

[obtuse moth]

they are

[fallow gale]

ill try

[ionic needle]

Yeah and the penance is only for elites, isn't it?

So getting kicked by a flamer shouldn't matter in the same way getting mutied or dogged doesn't

[split oxide]

my bad, flamers are specialists.
I mean shotgunners.

[ionic needle]

Ah

[fierce sinew]

if there is a sound cue and it spawns aggrod already it's a specialist

if it's big chilling in the map already and doesn't care until somebody gets close it's elite or below

think of the sniper shot ping noise as the sound cue for ease of classification if you like

[split oxide]

I hate snipers, but I hate breaking my penance.. I have curios instead.

[obtuse moth]

any stave can keep elites back, but fwiw you can dodge slide backwards while brain bursting

same with quelling

or start a brrain burst and turn aroundn and sprint slide away

[split oxide]

I don't use that feat.
But BB slide is an escape tactic I used A . LOT . against sneaky bullwarks.

[obtuse moth]

its not a feat.

any psyker can do it

[split oxide]

slide quell?

[obtuse moth]

yes

you can even sprint jump quell into a slide

[wanton sandal]

also fun little note, slide dodging counts as an extra dodge

[obtuse moth]

or combine that with an empower before quell with illisi to farm toughness

[split oxide]

never managed to pull that off.
But BB slide/escape behind a pillar is fun...

BBQuell+slide or Staff/SwordQuell+slide?

[ionic needle]

Smelter Complex HI + Dogs, time for purgatus!

[obtuse moth]

@split oxide hmm, what are you asking?

[wanton sandal]

sword has a longer dodge ig

and unlimited dodge

[split oxide]

When you SlideQuelled, did Were you holding BB, Stave or Sword?

[obtuse moth]

you can do it with all 3

[dim cedar]

what should i change?

[wanton sandal]

change warp nexus for something funnier

[split oxide]

more practice needed then.

I tend to favor going against unarmored and poxwalker/groaners.

• Better to delete a horde and worry about the elites/specialists.
• than to half-ass a horde and still not kill elites and specialists.

[obtuse moth]

i wouldnt change warp nexus, 16% chance for double burn is strong. unless you need focused channeling

[dim cedar]

how about the perks?

[wanton sandal]

maybe reroll for infested

[split oxide]

Keep searching for Nexus 4.
Keep Flurry4
At Tier4 you only have TerrifyingBarrage, Harvest...(formerly Nexus), Flurry.

[fallow gale]

again

nothing near me

but still 1/3

i cant do that

😦

[split oxide]

Stave has to do it's job it was designed for.
AntiElite for Trauma,
AntiHorde for Purg.

Remember you're part of a group:

• you do your job and you provide an opening for you teammates to do theirs.

[wanton sandal]

only 300+ hours in and i got the first cosmetic set, woo

[fallow gale]

[wanton sandal]

humina humina humina

[dawn sphinx]

What a lovely placement for a host.

[wanton sandal]

devilish

[humble saddle]

+1 wound gang

[supple skiff]

May you be blessed with good rolls sibling

[fierce sinew]

totally optional room with multiple paths around it?

better than a lot of them lmao

[supple skiff]

had more than a couple post up right in front of a well needed med station

[spice veldt]

very sad when it spawns here, but at least the next meditation is relatively near ahead

[hollow current]

I've had it spawn behind me in hab drako by the first healing station. literally just went up the stairs and then back down because a horde came and aggrod it in the confusion.

[cold geode]

They changed it back to warp nexus

[near wyvern]

You can meditate where you want sibling

[spice veldt]

facts

[wanton terrace]

Any advice on blessings and perks for this please oh wise ones?

[wanton sandal]

reroll maniac for something like unarmored

[hollow current]

remove barrage for warp nexus blessing

[wanton terrace]

Thanks dudes....need to build my libary of blessings but will be on it

[wanton sandal]

also we drip now

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/rap-dave-chappelle-show-cool-chappelles-show-shades-gif-17574761

[split oxide]

I don't like the facemask.(nothing political)
The visor can stay.

[late yew]

lol

Got kicked because i told people to go into fuckn escape zone

They kept farming hordes

[lilac tapir]

I noticed some zealots are doing that since the new patch, I think they have a specific penance that requires stunning a number of enemies or something like that

[wanton sandal]

facts

[wanton sandal]

joke's on them, i believe you keep the materials

[late yew]

Probably only half?

also i needed mission for my milky quests

[ionic needle]

Quite a lot of elites on this one

[steel flame]

#dumpstered

[late yew]

Not bad... But let's see Paul Allen's score

[wanton sandal]

pump that offense score

[fresh reef]

Day 2 of infiltration, they don't suspect a thing

[karmic reef]

On a purg build, does wildfire really make a noticeable difference compared to warp battery?

[hollow spruce]

yes

[obtuse moth]

6 stacks of soulblaze do double the damage that 4 stacks do because it doesnt scale linearly. so if you're using AB to clear harder targets its noticable unless you are using other ways to improve your power

on purge staff itself wildfire imo doesnt make that much difference, but with AB it does make it hit more than just a part of a horde wave since it can hop

[leaden thunder]

6 stacks "1 shots" all shooters and stalkers

which is very good with ab

[obtuse moth]

wildfire has a lot of limits which makes it redundant with purge since adds cant get more than 4 stacks TOTAL

@leaden thunder yea, but you can do the same with warp unleashed/pinning fire/blaze away/slaughterer/unstable power etc buffing four stacks

[leaden thunder]

I don't know exactly how much you need to be able to do that, and then those would make you deal more to elites with it as well

[obtuse moth]

its about half so if you have 100% increase to power theyre roughly equivalent

WU gives you 25%, if you get 75% or more from other sources you're fine

[tropic vigil]

sorry its unreleated, but any chance that anyone here is knowledgeable about raising weed plants?

[obtuse moth]

yea but 6 stacks are much more punishing to spend, and your fire doesn't hop and perpetuate and give you more stacks. you can cast ab a lot more often and a lot more freely. tbh i often get overzealous with stacking the multipliers and kill things so fast that my fire can't hop targets.

they both work depending on your build and playstyle

you just have to know what you're going for

[karmic reef]

So should I run warp battery instead?

Or does that also not impact purg much

[obtuse moth]

i would run warp personally on purg

[obtuse moth]

unless you're building for ^

[leaden thunder]

though i'd rather have the damage boost from battery on an auto pistol build

49% damage boost that is multiplicative with 150% power kinda nuts

[obtuse moth]

2 extra warp charges is 8%

if you use wildfire effectively you'll save a lot more ammo

[ionic needle]

you're running wildfire with autopistol?

[obtuse moth]

nah i always use staves on psyker

i abuse illisi for wildfire

[tropic vigil]

illisi is pretty nice. im still sold on deimos but illisi is more effective i think

[fresh reef]

a couple toughness

2% off the max, need two more 17% curios

[slate oasis]

is toughness the best thing to get on curios for psyker?

[crude cape]

I like it, what chest is it?

[fresh reef]

Not really

no idea what the consensus is on best curio stat

[crude cape]

hows this? I know my blessing aren't tier 4, but...
its felt good, the super low warp res tho sometimes limits how many charged M2s i can do, but it slaps otherwise. It also lets me have high peril easily and pull out a deimos or illy and start slicing though
Which blessing would be best to upgrade to 4?

332 stat pool could be better but its the best one ive made/come across yet

[formal ridge]

what can I do with this staff? Build wise, is sustained fire viable?

I could also put surge on it, surge + sustained fire

or is warp flurry tier 3 worth keeping?

from my understandidng the two blessings dont synergize at all so one has to go

[obtuse moth]

suustained fire useless

[formal ridge]

well that doesnt help me at all

it clearly does something

[obtuse moth]

its for left click iirc

[formal ridge]

right

so what if someone wants to build a staff round left click

I can always make multiple staffs

but I want to min max specific ones

[obtuse moth]

transfer peril is much better for left click, especially in combination with quell cancel rapid fire

[weak herald]

What do I put as a second perk ?

[obtuse moth]

warp flurry is the best blessing basically for trauma

[wanton sandal]

the heresy one from the redacted

think it was soloing a monster using bb

[slender wharf]

Imagine if "in a row"

[fallow gale]

I did my 100 missions, where is my helmet?

[crude cape]

the redacted ones are no longer available, or still achieveable? didn't understand how it worked, i never got it

coming back, im starting to finally feel comfortable in tier 5's

and actually winning them

[wanton sandal]

they should be but I think getting the reward for it is bugged rn

[fallow gale]

who tested it?

why they allowed this to happen?

[grand arrow]

good god i want FS to add a variant staff dualwielded with a laspistol so fucking bad im sick of this warp bolt bull shit

[crude cape]

Best purg i've made so far, is it alright? Feels useable but warp res might be a little too low...
which blessing would you upgrade to 4?

[grand arrow]

i've honestly stopped caring about rolls. it's useable as long as every stat is 70+

[crude cape]

this 2nd one is in the store, and im also wondering if its a better base to use and replace the above?

[crude cape]

well, warp res is 34 lmaooo.
the rest is good. Is this melk one though (2nd picture) worth buying to replace it?
I would be losing 1% crit, bc i would reroll the sprint efficiency.
but its got more balanced stats?

[grand arrow]

sounds solid on paper. flip a coin

[spice veldt]

if you want to go for a blazing spirit Voidstrike I guess

[crude cape]

omg im an idiot

thats a voidstrike

somehow i thought it was a purg

LOLL

so nvm

[spice veldt]

what skins does to a mf

[crude cape]

lol

i guess my first one is decent, useable for now until i find one with more balanced stats.
Which blessing do you think is best though to upgrade to 4 - warp nexus or flurry?

this one for reference

[spice veldt]

I'd probably just flip a coin

but I'm leaning towards nexus

[crude cape]

ya, actually since its weakness is war res anyway

i cant get off an extra cast in the chain before needing to quell

so more dmg on the ones i do cast makes sense

so searching for a t4 warp nexus - is it worth crafting stuff, a blue can roll a t4 right?

or do you need to upgrade to legend

[fringe tangle]

Just got these 3 done.

Psykers new penances seem to be the easiest of the new ones. They're mostly head pop enemy, don't get hit by elite and press F when blowing up.

[spice veldt]

yeah pretty much freebies

[karmic delta]

Their design is a bit meh IMO. mostly copy and paste

but I do like the headwear for the Psyker

[spice veldt]

the only one that I haven't completed yet is Blessed by Fate because I keep blowing up without my ult off CD because I'm too good at peril management

[karmic delta]

Imagine giving the Psyker with a metal blindfold a Shredder xd

[fringe tangle]

[spice veldt]

very similar-ey but I dig their general design

I like the one with the sleeves but without the bulky bracers

[karmic delta]

The redacted cosmetics is still better though. And it follows the general color scheme of the Inquisition of Red and Black

[spice veldt]

yeah, the new ones feel a bit too "adventurer-ey" to me in that respect

[wide tiger]

Anyone know if ilisi special attack counts as warp attacks for the penance?

[spice veldt]

probably; I got the warp kills one done even though I pretty much exclusively used my illisi

[wide tiger]

excellent ty

was about to dust off my ol voidstrike

[lilac tapir]

I got about 25-30% of these new achievements done just by running weeklies with Shredder build with Illisi and playing normally (I rarely have to manually charge BB with the free BB every 15 seconds). Really fun so far 🙂

[hearty python]

@fringe tangle took me a day or 2 to get them all I think

[wide tiger]

that is also what im running

ilisi shredder

still need to get myself pin fire 4 tho

melk has been disappointing as of late, barely bringing t4 blessings

[hearty python]

@crude cape that's the Malleus Monstoenum chest

[formal ridge]

thx, gonna replace sustained fire then

[lilac tapir]

I rolled a shredder with unyielding and decided to keep it and it's surprisingly good (Reapers melt really nicely and nice extra dmg on bosses)

[fringe tangle]

Yeah, I only started doing them yesterday. Probably have them all finished on the next mission or so.

[formal ridge]

but brittleness on trauma is pointless right? @obtuse moth

[spice veldt]

really only ever affects carapace enemies

[formal ridge]

shredder with unyielding is my unicorn

[spice veldt]

and if you have some modicum of trust in your teammates

[formal ridge]

i dont have one with flak/unyielding

[spice veldt]

I personally run rending on my trauma just cuz

[formal ridge]

I dont trust teammates

lol

[hearty python]

@fringe tangle I got 9 my first mission since it was damnation and already had all the previous ones

[formal ridge]

theres 1 player I trust when I play and even he blows up barrels on me sometimes

[spice veldt]

I trust them to spam their flamer in a general direction

f

[fringe tangle]

Yeah, I also got spammed with a bunch of them on my first mission.

[spice veldt]

there's a lot more armor with this new update with all the mauler jumpscares and whatnot

so I feel pretty comfortable running rending shockwave

[lilac tapir]

Mine rolled Unyielding and some crappy 2nd perk so I decided to keep Unyielding and reroll the other perk into Flak. So far so good and don't really feel the lack of Maniac that much. It's not a perfect Shredder but it is mine 🙂

[fringe tangle]

I think it's good there's more armour. Makes AP weapons more useful.

[spice veldt]

classic trauma staff W

spawn all da ogryns

[fringe tangle]

yeah, especially if you can get them to stand inside each other.

[hollow dove]

Team, I wanna use combat knife but it seems objectively worse than force swords. But you get to go so sanic fast.

Any advice?

[spice veldt]

damage-wise, the combat blade is really only good at single-target

and below-average for hordeclear

[fringe tangle]

I only use FS on Psyker these days, other weapons seem mostly inferior.

[spice veldt]

not much you can do about that even with perks and blessings

so I'd probably just make up for the hordeclear weakness by running purg or something

[hollow dove]

I know. I know it in my heart of hearts.

[fringe tangle]

I wish the sabers could be used on other classes, would be fun to run a saber on a zealot, I think.

[hollow dove]

Yeah haven't played around with the dueling sword yet

It's just not as metal.

[wide tiger]

weaker deimos really

[hollow dove]

And I love the force swords but the KNOIFE gets some dopamine shakin' round.

[formal ridge]

fml

[spice veldt]

you're going to barrage over all the enemies

[formal ridge]

yeah the sentient ones lol

hey it will melt flamers

lol

and muties

[hollow dove]

Does anyone like Quietitude?

[spice veldt]

absolutely

I have basically never ever swapped off quietude for the entirety of my psyker

very comfy regen feat as long as you can find some cover

and especially with our fast quell speeds nowadays

though I also run high peril weapons like trauma and the illisi

I prefer quietude for pushing through a map, but I'd prob prefer warp absorption for events and finales

[ember sentinel]

yeah i use exclusively quietitude

[fringe tangle]

"I AM THE SENATE"

[long wharf]

I switch to the "toughness on warp kill" feat with purge and void

should with trauma as well, I think

[spice veldt]

probably quite better with the buff to 15%

I'm just the type of person that likes to make my feats conform to my playstyle rather than adapt to my feats

and quietude tends to be better when I'm playing like an idiot

I also feel incentivized to play more like an idiot with warp absorption by giving me more of an excuse to run into shooters

very necessary action to get toughness

[karmic reef]

How early do you think it’s feasible to do heresy/damnation ?

[long wharf]

depends on your skill and how good the rest of the team is

[tropic vigil]

any if you play with a team, but if solo maybe about 20 for heresy at least

not incredibly difficult it just depends on getting a good team

is warp nexus good on purg?

[grand arrow]

if you're doing qp/randoms just stay in uprising/malice. they're higher XP/h. if you're already 30, then you should be able to go into heresy as soon as you get half-decent blessings on your weapons

[grand arrow]

to get into damnation i'd recommend orange weapons and curios with optimal perks and blessings (god rolls unnecessary)

obviously experience/skill overrides some of that. but use your judgment

[crude cape]

decent base?

or not high enough

[wanton sandal]

meh

workable

till you get something better

[grand arrow]

i prefer the deimos myself personally

[crude cape]

ya i have one

want an illy too

[grand arrow]

🤔

[crude cape]

i like them paired with different staffs

[grand arrow]

incredilby soulful

[crude cape]

i have this

[grand arrow]

differnet fashion too, right ?

[crude cape]

looking at it dont think that base is better

not sure tho

[grand arrow]

this is questionable advice so take it with a grain of salt, but i've pretty much stopped ignoring stat rolls

[wanton sandal]

what

[grand arrow]

as long as damage is like 75+ and every other stat is ~70+ it's good enough

[crude cape]

the legendary is the one i use now, the white is me trying to roll a better base to craft a replacement since mine is meh i think

maybe mine is fine

[karmic reef]

When I reach 30, should I just buy something off the market already decently high tier to use as base, or just keep buying profane weapons until I get one with a good roll as base

[wanton sandal]

eeh hard to get better than 372 base but hadron owned you on those blessings

[grand arrow]

both are viable

[karmic reef]

Maybe if the stuff in the armory has good perks I’d grab it

[wanton sandal]

i'd hold onto it until you find a 370ish base or like he said with every stat ~70%

and keep rolling for slaughterer IV and (maybe) deflector

[grand arrow]

so with this bull butcher, if you saw this weapon as a green, it would only have maniac damage and the high stats

[north cradle]

Pretty nice indeed

[grand arrow]

it's about weighing it up honestly

[wanton sandal]

just get a comfortable weapon to use in heresy until you can find a real good one

[ornate hamlet]

With psyker you can get away with a lot of stuff due to warp unleashed and warp battery

I recently tried laspistol on veteran and it actually was really underwhelming due to how much damage I'm missing on bodyshots compared to psyker, and even the headshots are still buffed by the same damage

You can get a gray MG12 and make it work very nicely anywhere that isn't hi5

[crude cape]

damnit this has good stats but a bad blessing lol

[grand arrow]

perks're okay, superiority is okay. keep it

[crude cape]

its also a blaze, which meh

im gonna try a high intensity tier 5

cant wait to die

[grand arrow]

that's a little premature lmao

[austere estuary]

oh

oh my

[long wharf]

buy it now

[austere estuary]

already did

well it is ludicrous

in psyk

[hollow dove]

Unnnnnff

[hot cypress]

hey anybody wanna team for headhoncho?

[obtuse moth]

Pointless for right click damage, but it boosts non special attack melee damage like Deimos and combat axe, left click damage, and teammate damage against armored targets. Pointless for personal trauma damage basically but can be good if you are ccing packs of crushers. I'm personally not using it right now because focused channeling lets me play aggressively by slide charging into enemies but I would rebless to brittle if I was playing hi shock.

[austere estuary]

trauma shredding crushers is fantastic for your team if they're using lasguns or bullets etc

[karmic delta]

Whats the Obscurus even good at these days when we have the Deimos and Illisi

[left basin]

ssssooo

[ornate hamlet]

nada

[left basin]

a lot of people are saying IVs are being dropped way more often

[cyan notch]

nothing

[left basin]

it provides the skin to remove the penisword's penis tip

[crystal olive]

On the void strike force staff I've got transfer Peril. what'd be a good complimentary blessing?

[north cradle]

Warp Flurry

Naturally Warp Nexus would work against Transfer Peril

[austere estuary]

warp flurry and xfer peril are bestest buds

[north cradle]

I wish the Gameslantern Darktide bot was in here

[crystal olive]

And I don't suppose blessings are swappable between staff types

[north cradle]

Noooope

[crystal olive]

laaaaame

[north cradle]

You think Ogryn doesn't get other classes to buy him blessings, Psyker has to get each blessing for each Force Staff individually

Truly the most oppressed race

[unreal harness]

I used to be a vet main, god damn what was I thinking

I can't speak to the meta of what's "best" but psyker is definitely the most fun

[ember sentinel]

ik dueling swords are bad but i wanna use them for the first time in a long while, what should i be looking for on them? (important stats, Which mark, perks/blessings)

[copper torrent]

what is the penance for the cape? I can't find it.

[cyan notch]

mark 5 with low mob/defences and shred/uncanny/rampage

[ember sentinel]

ok so mob/def doesnt matter then

[cyan notch]

theyre helpful but mob matters less than defences

[torn hamlet]

This void staff worth it? Is that a good blessing for this staff?

[cyan notch]

flurry is really good yea

[torn hamlet]

It also has decent stats and perks so I could actually use it

but then I wont have any coins left incase something better comes along

I need warp flurry for my purg and surge

[ember sentinel]

are there any blessings that are better than the other?

like

is uncanny more important than shred

etc

i have access to uncanny 4 and shred/rampage 3

[cyan notch]

its up to you and what u wanna prioritise

rampage gives more horde damage

uncanny is pretty nice free damage on single targets

[ember sentinel]

ok cool

[copper torrent]

what is the penance for the cape? I can't find it.

[ember sentinel]

perks just unarmored/flak or something im guessing?

maybe weakspot

[cold geode]

must be surge week, i just got it on trauma today, and yesterday on void

[cyan notch]

weakspot is pretty mid

[ember sentinel]

shoot fast im pretty sure

unless im thinking of the wrong cape one

[cyan notch]

id just go flak and stamina because 2 stam is too little for me

[ember sentinel]

word ty

[copper torrent]

@ember sentinel I see it now. It only shows the picture of the upper body, but it does say cape. Thank you

[ember sentinel]

got this made up

sad on the bad perk but it be like that

[ember sentinel]

np

[cold geode]

I didn't see anything in the notes, did they fix wildfire in this last patch?

[long wharf]

it wasn't mentioned

[ember sentinel]

they fixed it a while back if thats what you mean

but im guessing that you knew that

well i think they just buffed it idk about fixed

[cold geode]

it wasnt spreading stacks properly to other nearby mobs

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wildfire-not-stacking-past-4/77402

doesnt appear fixed per forums so meh

man just got surge again, i guess they buffed its frequency?

[crystal olive]

After about an hour I finally got Warp Flurry for the voidstrike... only for it to be a rank 1

Is it possible to get higher ranks on warp flurry?

[cold geode]

yes

[crystal olive]

...yay

The omnissiah really doesn't like me much

I want to bring Transfer Peril and Warp Flurry together. Should I surrender the Transcendent and work on upgrading the Anointed, or just surrender the anointed?

Is it worth the risk on the bad rolls for perks on the anointed?

[hearty python]

@crystal olive I'd say earn transfer 4 and apply to anointed, then try for higher flurry maybe

[crystal olive]

I'd be locking in the flurry though

I wouldn't be able to swap it out

[hearty python]

Though you could also use the trancendant one swap unarmored to maniac and try to find higher flurry

@crystal olive not if you replace the flurry now and try for a new one but that would be locked

[wide lake]

Siblings... I require assistances... how should I go about this

[crystal olive]

So you can either double down on the MK5s straight and go for the top, or you can make up for it's kind of weakness and go for bottom

The MKV's strength is cleaving hoards.

[crystal olive]

If I add the the anointed I'd be locking down flurry. I'm also not a fan of the perk so If I get a second perk that's also not great I'd have to leave one be

[austere estuary]

assuming you're choosing between bloodthirsty and deflector 4 to harvest - I'd take bloodthirsty

not because I think it's better, but it's unique and you can't get a 'very nearly as good' version much more frequently like deflector

[hollow current]

yeah, there's four versions of deflector that all do the same thing. 3/6/9/12% extra block chance is eh on the whole while blood thirsty only has one blessing and is harder to find in general.

[gloomy yarrow]

What website is this

[long wharf]

it's the darktide armoury plugin

lets you check the shops via browser

[hearty python]

I'm not sure, but I think if you replace the flurry 1 with something else before you roll for the next blessing if it can roll flurry again. Which was what I was suggesting. Your transcendent one does have decent perks, reroll unarmored to maniac to cover even more specials/elites too, and put a higher level flurry on it to replace focused. I will say that you can get better base stats as well as you have a 350 and a 331 base and I've gotten into the 370s and I think I've seen someone post a 380 once.

[crystal olive]

There's a level 4 flurry in Sire Melk's shop. I'm currently grinding to afford it

[hearty python]

This is the staff I run, I just pulled transfer 4 off another staff a couple of days ago so I'm waiting for them to unlock so I can have both

[hearty python]

Get it sibling, it gets pretty wild

[crystal olive]

For now I've swapped in the rank one flurry to make up for it

I just hope I can grind in time

[sonic coral]

what do I do with this

never used a deimos before

[cold geode]

poke mutants

[obtuse moth]

id eat the bloodthirsty to put on an illisi later tbh

[sonic coral]

trade out executor for slaughterer probably? Ah, interesting, good point on reaping the blessing

[obtuse moth]

since its a unique t4

[sonic coral]

This is the illisi I use currently

[obtuse moth]

having to channel bloodthirsty on deimos is a little silly since the whole point of deimos is you dont need to channel most of the time and just stab things in the face

but itd be a shame to get rid of it

[sonic coral]

Interesting, alright. I guess I'd do bloodthirsty instead of unstable power, then slaughterer on an illisi?

[obtuse moth]

yea

[sonic coral]

Sounds reasonable, thanks

[obtuse moth]

you could still play with bloodthirsty on the deimos if you want

you just need to murder a weaker thing before you use it on your heavier thing

[sonic coral]

I'll give it a spin and see how it treats me

Worst case I hate it

[obtuse moth]

you might get a good enough idea in the grinder

without even needing to hop in a match

[cyan notch]

its pretty mid now

its usable on illisi

[cold geode]

if you have +carapace 25 on deimos, you can use the special with any heavy strike to 2 shot crushers

[sonic coral]

just spent like 300 grand getting this roll and upgrading it

I don't even want deflector lol

Alright, I guess sprint efficiency to maybe carapace, then shred to slaughterer

[long wharf]

sad that damage isn't a dump stat

[sonic coral]

Agreed, although it's only like 6 points or something

the range isn't that broad

[ember sentinel]

when do stats generally start matter percentwise?

like if i get 70% damage instead of 80, is it that big a deal

or does only sub 70 matter

probably depends on how hard the stat scales

[vernal frost]

depends if that weapon needs high enough stats for breakpoints I guess

[ember sentinel]

oh so its pretty dependent on the weapon/breakpoints

guess thats why the calculator exists

[vernal frost]

yeah pretty much

[dapper grotto]

anyone have the sound files for the seer laughter

[grand arrow]

anything lower than 60 is very noticeable

[obtuse moth]

bp's and if its a dumpstat, top priority or mid tier stat. thresholds are gonna change

[grand arrow]

a good example of when stats barely matter is on the MG XII lasgun

[spice veldt]

stuff like finesse and charge rate are preferably always high because of attack speed

[grand arrow]

for whatever reason, that gun just works virtually regardless of perks, blessings, or stats. ammo is literally its most important one

[steel flame]

it has a pretty low stat curve

with trauma was like that

[grand arrow]

i wish all of the weapons were like that