psyker-class

[vernal frost]

I run 112133 on autopistol

[ocean cipher]

ok but staff fun

[vernal frost]

yeah

I just love playing aggressively while also having the best dps and kill potential

[ionic needle]

wrack and ruin is so much worse than the other picks in t2

even with purgatus

[vernal frost]

it's hella niche

at least they buffed it

[ionic needle]

it's niche, weak and heavily reliant on rng

[strange wigeon]

haven't played in a almost 2 months, did they un-nerf the soulblaze flak damage?

[vernal frost]

yeah

[ionic needle]

halfway

[vernal frost]

they buffed it to 150% after nerfing it

[ionic needle]

it was 200%, got nerfed to 100% and now it's 150%

[ocean cipher]

wrack and ruin is bad?

[vernal frost]

wait does 2 months mean you haven't witnessed the massive buffs for psyker?

[vernal frost]

it's very hard to make it work

[ocean cipher]

so is warckaw

[ionic needle]

on kinetic flayer: you can actually kind of game it if you're running a low warp res illisi by constantly being at 100% peril so it won't proc on regular mobs

[ocean cipher]

oop

[ionic needle]

requires some work though

[vernal frost]

nah I just don't care enough

15sec is hella fast

https://youtu.be/2eCMWJSdyx0

I think that's the vid about some schizo strats with wrack and ruin

goated content creator honestly

[ocean cipher]

does it eat your peril

[ionic needle]

but yeah, it's mostly for the passive charge regen

no it doesn't

[vernal frost]

also

wait a bit imma throw something in this discussion

gonna find the vid

[strange wigeon]

got my back injured of March 13. so I couldn't really play for a long time and then I just dropped the game

[ionic needle]

compared to the other two picks in that tier it's absolute garbage

[ocean cipher]

ah ok

waht should i use

[vernal frost]

Oof that's awful, hope you're alright now

[vernal frost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1030488844446994562/1101838031650029678/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.04.29_-_14.50.16.21.DVR_-_Trim.mp4

[ionic needle]

I almost always go with warp unleashed, but I can imagine inner tranq is really good on something like trauma staff

[vernal frost]

the damn thing inherits the weapon's buffs

[spice veldt]

I wouldn't say it's garbage but it's more situational than I'd like it to be

[vernal frost]

inner tranq is kinda meh after they buffed ventinf

[ionic needle]

oh that's what happens when those reapers suddenly just melt when I shoot them, hahaha

[ionic needle]

good point

[vernal frost]

also got overshadowed by warp unleashed

[strange wigeon]

yeah, hurt like it was broken but it was just extremely strained muscles in the lower back so it got better slowly after a couple of weeks of bed rest

[ocean cipher]

psyker staves dont share blessings right

[vernal frost]

nope

[obtuse moth]

yeah it is really good on trauma staff, its basically like transfer peril but instead you quell just by killing adds

[novel hawk]

anyone want to help me do the monstrosity penance?

[ocean cipher]

love when my fuckin preacher teammate intentionally aggros a daemonhost when we're down a member

after i said not to and took a convoluted path to avoid irt

[austere estuary]

Sadly not

[meager cedar]

I'd offer but I suspect my aussie ping might screw with things

But if that's no problem I could help out

[late yew]

ok, so

I am more than ever convinced that light spam has more horde dps than heavy spam on illi

Damages the first target, damage on the rest is insignificant

[novel hawk]

I mean it shouldn’t really be an issue

Only problem is that we need 4 people really

Otherwise bots will mess it up

[obtuse moth]

personally i find horde clear significantly slower if i light spam compared to heavy 1 light 2 spam, or heavy 1 qq animation cancel and repeat

[meager cedar]

True, yeah

Well if you find 2 more people just buzz me again and I'll hop on

[novel hawk]

Alright thanks

[ocean cipher]

when do trauma staffs start being good

[cyan notch]

when u have good stats

[ocean cipher]

like, define good stas

ive heard trauma staff scales very harshly with stats, what stats start being good

[cyan notch]

charge blast damage

not utterly shit warp res and quell

also warp flurry

[spice veldt]

charge rate and blast radius are the two most important stats

charge rate scales from 2.5 to 1 second

and here's the blast radius scaling

[cyan notch]

heavies hit way more targets

for low density sure spam lights

[late yew]

except targets after first one barely take any damage

[spice veldt]

huh

light spam is better than I thought

[cyan notch]

its not about damage

its about horde control

u hit like 3 targets with lights

[weak galleon]

How usable is this? I have none of these blessings unlocked.

[vernal frost]

they're both not the bis for antax

[weak galleon]

the one I have right now is this. I know Brutal Momentum is the meta, just asking about those.

[vernal frost]

limbsplitter is ass if you're not running the always first attack mod

and is just worse than headtaker

thrust isn't particularly useful on axes either

yours is better

[weak galleon]

k, thank you.

saved me the coins.

[spice veldt]

also compared special-lights vs special-heavies

[willow oyster]

there's a mod for that??

[vernal frost]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/148

[willow oyster]

so your telling me that ive been manually doing it for no reason the entire time

[vernal frost]

not really

[cyan notch]

no

its a new mod

[vernal frost]

it released today actually

[willow oyster]

i see

[novel hawk]

Did it?

[vernal frost]

yeah

[novel hawk]

I thought it’s been out for a while

[vernal frost]

the previous version was ehhh

a bit cheaty

[willow oyster]

recommend limb splitter if you don't have maxed head taker for the antax

its literally faster to always use the first attack swap

heavies mostly benefit

and lights as well benefit significantly

its night and day how fast it is

the upside is that yoy don't have to build it up...

the downside is requiring swapping at every single waking moment

like going from doing 760 dps on a barely operable limbslitter antax to 1766 on the same axe

performed on flak armor

[weak galleon]

maybe i should take it for the lvl4 limbsplitter then, since my headtaker is lvl2. and use a mod.

[vernal frost]

id recommend trying the mod first

[willow oyster]

sure, but don't recommend

[vernal frost]

to see if you're comfortable with the first attack

[willow oyster]

that and its a mod

that covers a technique that can be easily used on every single character

which technically makes the mod even more appealing

[vernal frost]

yeah

[weak galleon]

i'm not a stranger to game mechanics, just mostly a VT2 player.

[vernal frost]

v2 had qq swapping for a while

then they patched it out

so enjoy it here while it lasts

[willow oyster]

naw, patched our specifically only kn the 2hh first attack

you can replicate it with the 1hh, but its slower

[weak galleon]

speaking of vt2. Is there a working autohotkey for DTide? Back in the times of Cloak of Mist shade made me look for a way to make automatic light attack spam macros, but this thing doesnt want to work for Vt2.
(that stuff is confirmed to be allowed by DTide devs too, if anyone bothered by that).

[willow oyster]

prob won't since easyanticheat won't let that happen

its just the nature of it

[spice veldt]

EAC is currently disabled

[willow oyster]

wart.

[spice veldt]

they disabled it a while back

some time around or before mods were released into the public

[vernal frost]

yeah

[willow oyster]

im no practitioner of autohotkeys since razor just let's me do that

razer*

so good luck on that

[spice veldt]

EAC has been deactivated; partially to allow easier modding and partially because we had some technical issues that caused undetectable crashes for some players.

It may make a return if we find that the game state deteriorates to unplayable/unsustainable levels due to cheating and or malicious attacks.
A developer comment from the modding discord

[willow oyster]

🥹

im gonna miss you for the emperor mod

[ionic needle]

This looks fun, worth it if I swap sustained fire for the crit one and unarmored for crit%?

[vernal frost]

I'd give it a try, looks like a mighty fine staff to me

[covert ermine]

came here just to told everyone psyker is so much better without damn toilet seat on her shoulders

[lament sonnet]

There is nothing interesting about this screenshot nor this opinion. It's just skin.

[covert ermine]

yes i know its a bug can we leave it as it is now

[spice veldt]

the collar does get a bit old, and I don't like the inherent bulkiness of it

[atomic idol]

What's the best map for Cliffhanger?

[novel hawk]

the one with the little bridge off the side of the big bridge at the start

you can funnel them onto it

cant remember what its called

like a metal catwalk

[ornate hamlet]

That's at the beginning of the ammo raid.

Also at the start of the nurgle tree one

[atomic idol]

I've been trying it at the finale of Vigil Station Oblivium, but 7 is a large number

[novel hawk]

is that what it is now

wasnt it like 15 before

or 20 or smth

[atomic idol]

No, that's something else, think it was always 7

[spice veldt]

it used to be 20 until some point in time

[novel hawk]

would've been nice if it was 7 from the start

[spice veldt]

I think it was the beta leading up to the release that had it at 20?

[novel hawk]

oh right

that was pain

[spice veldt]

200iq waiting for fatshark to nerf the penances to do them

[ionic needle]

if you pull PW you have like two seconds where you can also use FS block push to complete it

[tacit fractal]

What's currently the best feat build to go for

[vernal frost]

depends heavily on your playstyle and weapon choice

[tacit fractal]

I mean yeah but what's you guys' personal favourite which you would consider best

to rephrase what I said

[vernal frost]

gotcha

[tacit fractal]

because yknow, I like to be efficient and not go "Oh go whatever you like"

Because I like to be efficient

[ionic needle]

I'm still absolutely loving illisi + shredder with 312233

However I just got a fire trauma staff that might be fun to play around with, not sure on what to build there or what to pair it with though

[vernal frost]

these are my two go-to builds, gunpsyker if i wanna be agressive af and snag lots of kills, purgatus if i wanna chill

[ionic needle]

Yeah purgatus can be fun too, shredder is very hectic

[vernal frost]

shredder sure does live up to its name

*doesnt apply to shredders without pinning fire

[ionic needle]

My purgatus build is 311213 though, I just can't drop KB haha

Or maybe I'm running deflection on that... Not sure

No I'm not, I usually only run deflection if I have the deflect blessing which my deimos doesn't

[vernal frost]

i might actually want to swap the 15 crd feat from my purgatus tho..

[safe fulcrum]

The numbers Mason, what do they mean?

[ionic needle]

It's the feat I picked in each tier where the top one is 1 and the bottom is 3

So 111111 means I picked the top feat in every tier

Which isn't actually too bad of a build tbh

[novel hawk]

this is what I use

works well for me

hordes are just a toughness farm

[tacit fractal]

yup

first time in a while

heresy is just as easy like I remembered

[novel hawk]

why do people keep saying that

seems really condescending for some reason

[tacit fractal]

It's not meant to

[novel hawk]

I know

[tacit fractal]

other players just have different levels of skills in different games

[novel hawk]

I had 3 back to back heresy games where someone just ran off because it was too easy for them

just a skill issue on my part ig

[tacit fractal]

after being in so many times in the hell hole that's Cataclysm Chaos Wastes in Vermintide you get back into it

[tacit fractal]

also that's stupidity not skill issue

I've seen it and it always will be

which sucks

if the team doesn't keep up be with them to carry or let them wonder in the grimdarkness of the far future's aesthetics and theme

[boreal meteor]

Is the soulblaze build good now?

[tacit fractal]

no clue

[ionic needle]

Which one do you mean? Purgatus with ascending blaze?

[tacit fractal]

soulblaze in general I think?

This is what kind of build i've bee going with since pre-launch of the game

stopped playing before Hadron update

and I did manage to get this sort of drip

I really like how Deimos rebreather looks like

[ionic needle]

Is that voidstrike staff? What melee weapon are you using?

[tacit fractal]

It's void skin but I use purgatus and surge

I also use force sword cause it's cool and useful

[ionic needle]

I'd swap flayer for 6 stacks in t5, since you're running kinetic barrage you don't need the extra charges generated from flayer

Otherwise it's good

Maybe swap to quietitude in t1 aswell, but yeah it's not an insane difference

[tacit fractal]

I use kinetic just for my own survivability

I just don't like quetitude

[summer prairie]

Rolling t4s is so easy now. I think the odds of a t2 perk are also much lower now

[ionic needle]

If it's working for you then roll with it

[tacit fractal]

cause I can do damnation and heresy fine with it which might be suprising idk if it is

But I just roll with it

[ionic needle]

I didn't use to like quietitude either, but got used to it

[ionic needle]

Do the odds scale with the base level of the weapon?

[summer prairie]

the odds are much higher now when upgrading to orange but not sure about the base level

I did 8 purple->orange crafts and got 6 or 7 t4s

[ionic needle]

Oh yeah that's really good

Still missing t4 slaughterer on FS so should go try and get that

[summer prairie]

I got two t4 slaughterers when doing that, sadly not what I was looking for

and bloodthristy (also had that)

[cyan notch]

since the patch?

[summer prairie]

yes

[cyan notch]

hmm i havent upgraded shit forever

[summer prairie]

staff blessings particularly easy since you can just reroll your first blessing to something undesirable and then some staves only have flurry/nexus available as a t4

[ionic needle]

God damn it how haven't I thought of that

[summer prairie]

It feels like the weapon rating may affect the blessing odds but this is based only on a few lower base rating rolls

[rare furnace]

We get more toughness regen in general now

Decent

Vets got some love

[novel hawk]

what happened with toughness regen

[rare furnace]

From 20 to 25

For psykers

[summer prairie]

do you mean warp absorption going from 10 to 15?

[spice veldt]

that was 10 to 15% for warp absorp right?

[rare furnace]

Ah yes

Warp absorp

[ionic needle]

tried it out with purg yesterday, it feels really weak imo

[novel hawk]

might be better with stuff that kills instantly rather than tick

[obtuse moth]

its really strong as long as theres a steady stream of trash adds to die, but when youre only confronted with harder targets...

[ionic needle]

I think the issue is that it's only good if you're killing lots of small things

Which is typically not a situation where getting extra toughness is necessary

[cyan notch]

its fine if ur frontlining

and u get chipped by random shooters etc

[summer prairie]

you'd want to stack some toughness and use kinetic shield with that

[fossil apex]

That's basically my psyker too. I call it the high peril build.
Voidstrike staff + Obscurus power sword with a tier 3 deflector

[tacit fractal]

deflector feels meh

just slide dodge

[spice veldt]

though the other offensive blessings beside slaughterer are also meh

[vernal frost]

deflector is nice to get some peril with kinetic deflection

[spice veldt]

so the competition isn't exactly high

[vernal frost]

also yeah that

[tacit fractal]

fair

[vernal frost]

its slaughterer on illisi and unstable for deimos

you wouldn't want both I presume

[spice veldt]

I run both on illisi

[vernal frost]

y

[spice veldt]

power is power

it'd probably be safer to run deflector over unstable

and better

but I subscribe to the DPS or die mentality

[pliant crystal]

If I try to get Head Honcho in a private game with one other player, will the two bots ruin it? Do we have to make sure they are dead first?

[late yew]

So unstable power vs deflector for illi?

[vernal frost]

I guess so

I run uns/def on deimos and sl/def on illi all the time

[late yew]

nah, unstable really bad on deimos

[spice veldt]

maybe I should just run deflector on illisi

[vernal frost]

nonsense

[spice veldt]

I'm starting to want to win games

[vernal frost]

deflector is just playing safe in my opinion

[late yew]

you cannot jerk it

So cannot quickly gain warp

[vernal frost]

I run purgatus

[spice veldt]

on the other hand, you can afford to give up warp res on the deimos

[late yew]

and?

Purgatus pretty low on warp

[vernal frost]

nonsense

[patent steeple]

btw, is kinetic shield a good choice if i run deimos and purgatus?

[spice veldt]

and peril gain with QQ is fine

not as fast as illisi but certainly fast enough

[vernal frost]

oh I forgot about the other blessing

rending on deimos is also goated

[fossil apex]

Deflector can really help if you end up being surrounded by ranged (with the help of kinetic deflection, plus I have a curio with +3 stamina, so for me it works pretty well)

[vernal frost]

yeah deflector is always nice to have

even if you're not actively using it

might save your life some time

Yeah on second thought, uncanny strike is probably better than unstable on deimos

considering you already deal ~1000 damage to a crusher with the second heavy

but would it one shot a mutant

[vernal frost]

I don't think anyone uses that feat tbh..

[summer prairie]

Pretty sure the perk odds when upgrading have also been improved

[patent steeple]

hmmm... fair point... but it does affect ALL toughness rather than just the listed effect on ranged damage (or at least it used to, idk if that is still the case currently)...

regardless, i have another question.

which is generally better to swap out for a tier 2 deflector on a deimos: a tier 2 exorcist or a tier 3 unstable power?

[vernal frost]

exorcist is ass

unstable power is always good

[patent steeple]

but on a deimos unstable power might be a bit time consuming to build peril constantly with purgatus...

[vernal frost]

still 1000 times better than exorcist

and you can build it up with your staff or bb

or qq cancelling as arco mentioned earlier

hey does someone here have a clip of deimos 1shotting the mutie?

[steel egret]

Did they fix free deflector on new swords?

[vernal frost]

yeah a long time ago

[steel egret]

Ah

Havent bothered to play that much

[unborn wedge]

Ok when the next achievements with cosmetics ???

[glad fern]

Where is the helm from?

[unborn wedge]

tier 5 new achievements

[left geyser]

What blessings am I look for with the elisi and the Purgatus

[vernal frost]

ellisi slaughterer/deflector

purgatus harnessing the warp and either warp flurry or terrifying barrage

[left geyser]

Awesome thank you

[meager cedar]

Unstable is also good on illisi

[stone prawn]

which one perk should change?

[uneven drift]

Infested.

[stone prawn]

in flak?

[vernal frost]

flak would be nice yeah

[uneven drift]

Crit chance/flak/unyielding(mb??). Check dmg tables, i don't remember if carapace require some love dmgwise.

[unborn wedge]

this is my build (Solblaze)
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=99143c99-8420-4a0c-9dd8-f919fa604422

[vernal frost]

carapace doesn't take damage from soulblaze

[stone prawn]

just got this staff from emperor gift but none play surge, idk

[vernal frost]

it is in the 10s

at most

[unborn wedge]

takes 2-4 damage at crusher, but you can use Bblow and sword for that

[vernal frost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1093547424053727242/4x-1.gif

[left geyser]

Is the Elissi the best sword? I think I like the Deimos' "Stab them in the face" first light attack better in combo with the purgatus

[vernal frost]

it's the best cc sword

deimos is single target

[left geyser]

Only really the first swing though?

"swing"

[obtuse moth]

one is more focused on horde clear, one is more focused on high single target spike

[left geyser]

Ye

So My thinking is Deimos with purgatus and ellisi with Voidstrike

One complements the other ye?

[obtuse moth]

ye

[worn cypress]

illisi single target is solid too, and deimos horde clear is solid too with slaughterer/unstable

[obtuse moth]

id still take illisi if i was doing ascendant blaze memes with purge though (warp unleashed, unstable power)

[worn cypress]

both are honestly really solid picks

[left geyser]

Cool

The little Ratling in my head can be satisfied knowing I'm not throwing using the deimos

[obtuse moth]

what about heavy-light combos that always hit heads

[near wyvern]

Throwing? WDYM Deimos is king if you have good horde clear with ranged.

@left geyser some things you can do with a proper Deimos

https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10

[vernal frost]

ah yes that's the vid I was referring to

thx!

[river sand]

just had a few rounds as vet and i must say, damn have i missed my force sword ....

[gloomy yarrow]

I like it cuz it looks like a weener

[river sand]

deimos and ilisi are sooooooo much better than crappy power swords ...

[cyan notch]

clickbait title for that video

shameful

power sword, the underrated gem

[spice veldt]

*sample size of 1 for each

[obtuse moth]

interesting that its exactly the same as heavy combos on 40 poxwalkers. thanks @spice veldt !

[spice veldt]

I really put the 6 cleave on a pedestal huh

why do the lights have to have such a good attack speed to be so spammable 😔

[steel egret]

Isnt first target on melee weapons solely for cleave attacks? or things that touch multiple enemy?

[cold oasis]

I love my Deimos >_>

[spice veldt]

first target is solely for the first target hit in a cleave

[steel egret]

Fuck would I need it for on Deimos?

[spice veldt]

f

[runic nest]

yes-ish

it gives a lot of damage - even if you never actually cleave through to other targets

[steel egret]

[near wyvern]

At least it's not "Veterans are going to hate this simple trick!" or "The one thing you don't know about Deimos, click to find out!"

Yeah first target is the thing on Deimos 😅

[cyan notch]

not surprising that heavy spam is mid on illisi nobody uses that anyway

[cold oasis]

my baby

[cyan notch]

u either light spam for stragglers or for mobility

then heavy light if you dont have time to charge

otherwise u just charge and nuke

[obtuse moth]

is the heavy combo assuming every hit is a headshot? cause its a diagonal

[spice veldt]

nope

I just aimed at an approximate head height and swung

[obtuse moth]

ah ok 👍

[spice veldt]

though I did have them stacked on top of each other

[left geyser]

Executer any good on the Deimos?

[obtuse moth]

uncanny is better

[cyan notch]

in practice heavies are pretty strong

u can swing your camera to hit more shit

i look at these meat grinder stuff with a continent worth of salt

[obtuse moth]

i believe theyre testing at cleave cap lol

in practice you cant hit more than the sword will allow you

[supple skiff]

feeling snazzy

[cyan notch]

well no shit

in practice the horde isnt gonna afk for you

[supple skiff]

hadron ruins this and im flipping tables

[spice veldt]

gives an idea of their DPS in a semi-ideal controlled case

[obtuse moth]

dw about it, shifting goalposts means theyre merely promoting their ideological standpoint

[cyan notch]

hardly even shifting goalposts

i thought we were just saying shit thats obvious

so i joined in

in practice you cant hit more than the sword will allow you

[olive ember]

You don't know that

in my hi int malice game there were so many poxwalkers man

more than I could count

I was scared bro

[ionic needle]

I actually pretty much only heavy spam with illisi

[orchid shadow]

Wait, Heavy Spam on illisi isn't optimal? Even with block canceling?

[ionic needle]

I have no idea, I just use it because it feels way better

[orchid shadow]

I've just been doing H1, Block cancel ad nauseum

[ionic needle]

Heavies gives me time to aim, think, position, cancel, dodge or whatever in between. It's nice.

[cyan notch]

if u block cancel the first heavy its good

or the heavy light its good too

[near wyvern]

Batman!

[near wyvern]

Which is not the case in actual game, they come as a lane

Not stacked

[stable silo]

I spam lights and rotate it works well my ol sword and dagger strat from vermintide

2

[ionic needle]

S&D ❤️

I think I enjoy the 1H axe on Handmaiden more though

[stable silo]

I liked dagger i liked sword so when you put them together

[devout belfry]

When are we getting a force axe?

[ionic needle]

I want a force dagger

[long wharf]

With Illisi, I charge+heavy at start of engagement and then if I need to make space

[sly cove]

What do ya'll think?

[ionic needle]

It's a very good sword. Could be better, but still very good.

[sly cove]

😄

[cyan notch]

fantastic

[sly cove]

Not as lucky with other things but Im happy with the sword 🙂

[long wharf]

Bloodthirsty isn't that great for Illisi

[royal wraith]

fellas

does anyone know if you can run decapitator on force swords?

nvm it dont found it

[granite dust]

it was okey but not really a challenge :/

[hexed ether]

is flak armoured desired for this one?

[drowsy slate]

Useless better salvage 🤡

Looks decent imho

[olive ember]

not a bad autopistol but stopping power is a bit low

and yeah flak/maniac are the desired perks

[ionic needle]

Doesn't matter if it's lacking some maniac though, shredder has super high maniac baseline

[olive ember]

are you naturally bald or was that just your

[ionic needle]

And now with +infested those dogs won't stand a chance

[olive ember]

eh +maniac makes it even better against mutants

[ionic needle]

Can't believe people are making bald characters, they do know bald = evil in the lore right?

[olive ember]

and other annoying specials like

flamers

[ionic needle]

I know

But because of the high baseline it's still good vs those targets

It's obviously not as good as it could be

[hexed ether]

https://streamable.com/vbw7ev
https://streamable.com/oj4f0j
yeee stuff dies pretty fast

[devout belfry]

Muties seem to have a lot more hp as of this patch when venting my clip into them with a shredder.

[ionic needle]

Really? You didn't do what I accidentally did and somehow swapped flayer for wildfire?

I noticed that quite a lot on mutants haha

[crude trout]

anyone here encountered completing the new penances for the new helmet but after completion, the helmet is not in your cosmetic inventory?

[near wyvern]

Nope, still 4k HP

[devout belfry]

They didn't change anything about muties?

[onyx frigate]

Guys I have a very important question

I really need help

How do you get the the shirt armor

What penance does it come from

[devout belfry]

It's a bug with one of the mid tier penances.

Second tier one iirc.

[onyx frigate]

Damn, I don't seem to have it even though I did it, I think

My friend has it and he has got the same penances

I feel cheated

[near wyvern]

Nope

[lethal folio]

Force sword block costs fixed.

[ember sentinel]

how do snipers work? i swear sometimes they do there little sound warning before firing so you can dodge and then sometimes they just shoot me

is only the first shot given warning or something

[crude trout]

for the most part they usually have a sound cue before they fire

but I notice that sometimes, if they've acquired a target but wasn't able to fire because target hid , and then another different target appeared, the sound cue disappears

but it's my anecdote so take it with a grain of salt

[ember sentinel]

ok that might be what it was

i was trying to find one really far away with BB and he just kept slamming me without the sound cue

was very annoying

[crude trout]

sometimes that does happen which is annoying

esp when you're alone

[ionic needle]

lol, decided to try out my surge staff for a run... it went a lot better than expected

[ember sentinel]

wait are mods working?

[ionic needle]

yeah

run the .bat file in your mods folder

[ember sentinel]

i thought they needed a full update from nexus creators

[ionic needle]

I haven't updated anything since the patch

[ember sentinel]

oh that was crashing the game for a friend

so i thought they were out of date

ill try the batch lol

[long wharf]

depends entirely on the mod

you can't make a general statement about all mods being broken

unless the game devs do something specifically to disable how mods currently work

I didn't have to do anything but re-enable mods for Darktide

but others have had to disable certain mods

[void mural]

Darktide mods entirely depend from patch to patch. Most patches I've just re-enabled my mods and they work, or at least don't crash the game, even if some of them are broken till the author puts out an update

[fresh reef]

[vernal frost]

they only need to be updated if the patch broke them, you can check the list of broken mods on the dt modders discord

[late field]

SO I'm having a hard time here, Is soulblaze actually worth the build? Idk if I can roll with a DoT build

[long wharf]

it's maximized with the purge staff and Ascendant Blaze

[late field]

so its just stacking DoT on groups

[vernal frost]

it stacks and kills anything in mere seconds if its not carapace

[quartz shadow]

Can someone explain this blessing to me?

[uneven drift]

Scaling at 20/40/60/80 up to 20% more power afaik if nothing has changed.

[leaden thunder]

^

the desciption is terrible for that blessing for some reason

[quartz shadow]

It's misleading

[uneven drift]

Like half of the game, or more, who know.

It's FS

They complained that sweat players force them to explain things and FS don't like it.

[ionic needle]

I think they need to read up on what "up to" means tbh

Same thing here

[vernal frost]

one could argue that blaze away tells you it's a stacking buff

but yeah the descriptions are all over the place

[ionic needle]

it does tell you that, but with the information given in the first sentence it's kind of confusing

"Up to X", to me, means any number between 1 and X. So I can gain between 1-10% power based on how long I'm shooting and then that somehow stacks five times

[vernal frost]

would've been nice if fs had common description for the blessings that do the same things

[leaden thunder]

yeah the issue is that there is no up to wind up

[vernal frost]

and not just write them one by one separately

[ionic needle]

"Gain up to 50% power based on how long you keep shooting"
There, fixed it

[leaden thunder]

yep

[vernal frost]

yeah and something along the lines to mention that you get that power in chunks of 10%

[ionic needle]

Yeah

[leaden thunder]

or even better, have the actual time required shooting(different per weapon) and have it be 10% power for every x seconds shooting stacks 5 times

[ionic needle]

Yeah that would be the optimal, but we're going by the "no sweats" rule here

Numbers = Sweats

[vernal frost]

true dat

nah scrap that

just write

Hm

[ionic needle]

Ogryn text

"Long shoot make strong"

[vernal frost]

yeah

I was thinking of something an ork would say

but that would be heretical

[vernal frost]

Fuck you should definitely push that as a mod idea

Cause there are already a couple of ogryn themed mods

[torn hamlet]

This a good curio for my psyker? What are the most important stats I should be looking for?

[vernal frost]

dont ever buy curios from melk

its also not the max stat

you can get 3 stamina on a curio

and yeah 3 stam is pretty good

[torn hamlet]

can you reroll the blessing?

[vernal frost]

nope

only perks

[torn hamlet]

also if you dont buy curious what do you buy? He always has garbage lol

Also how do I get better curious then?

[vernal frost]

use it for t4 blessing fishing and good base weapons

[vernal frost]

emp gifts and buying them from brunt and upgrading to orange

[torn hamlet]

ok fair enough. What are the stats I should prioritize?

For psyker

[vernal frost]

my general picks from higher to lower priority are almost always toughness regen speed, stamina regen and block efficiency

[torn hamlet]

what about blessings?

hp or toughness or stam?

[vernal frost]

go for stam if you're confident in your ability to not take damage, toughness if you wanna squeeze some more

never tried running hp on psyker cause it scales lower from his 100hp base (wrong again haha)

than toughness

[torn hamlet]

wait does the psyker have more toughness than hp like the vet?

[prisma perch]

Psyker has 150 health / 100 toughness

[near wyvern]

I mean you can but only if it has 2 good perks and a good blessing

[vernal frost]

oh

oops

[torn hamlet]

ok that is what I thought

[torn hamlet]

still go for toughness though?

[vernal frost]

i love toughness cause i dont take damage all that often when i play psyker

[prisma perch]

Toughness or health is a valid choice.. i personally run 2 health & 1 toughness.

[vernal frost]

and the recent buffs with quietude let me go from 0 to 100% in a matter of seconds

[torn hamlet]

Ok I may just run 1 hp 1 toughness 1 stam

[vernal frost]

yeah try running different curios to see what fits you best

[torn hamlet]

hahaha well right now I am still rocking blues so I need to first get some lol

On zealot and vet I just run pure toughness and its nice

but I know things are bit different with psyker

the stam seems really nice

[near wyvern]

I run 1 toughness 1 wound 1 stamina or 3 stamina depending on build

[vernal frost]

psyker is really squishy

you're better off not taking any damage altogether

[torn hamlet]

true but yea somehow I die way less on my psyker

idk his playstyle just fits me and you can always just press ult when in a bad situation

[vernal frost]

yeah you have a lot of control over the situation with the infinite dodges and your ult

[prisma perch]

If you like grabbing grims the extra health makes a big difference too

[near wyvern]

Psyker has all the tools to not get hit, it's just if you fuck up you are done

[torn hamlet]

i dont do grims anymore

waste of time honestly

[vernal frost]

i run 3 toughness cause the only damage i take is from engaging shooters

and ranged doesnt bleed through

[prisma perch]

I always grab them if I see them

[torn hamlet]

hmm yea i run purg staff most the time and the horde never gets anywhere close to me

[prisma perch]

Unless I’m doing hi int storm trooper

[torn hamlet]

but I like using the force swords a lot with deflector so that is why I think stam might be nice

[prisma perch]

If you use kinetic deflection you won’t need the stamina

[torn hamlet]

I honestly have not really tried that perk

[vernal frost]

it still would be useful in some situation

i met 6 gunners in a single spot today

[torn hamlet]

I figure I would prefer to use my peril for attacks rather than defense

[vernal frost]

as a zealot but nevertheless

[prisma perch]

I guess if you’re using purgatus then you’d always be at high peril anyway

I run trauma

[vernal frost]

nearly melted me from 320hp in seconds

[torn hamlet]

lol gotta get that gunner resist haha

[vernal frost]

nah im too lazy for that

[torn hamlet]

that is what I run on my zealot because gunners are a nightmare to deal with as a zealot

[vernal frost]

got all my curios with +30% toughness regen and forgot about them haha

id rather just slide through the fire or wait for others to take them out if im running flamer

[prisma perch]

Try kinetic deflection though at least once and see how much you can tank and block with it. Helps with melee attacks while reviving too.

[torn hamlet]

yea honestly to be fair I have been clearing hi5 no problem running two blue hp curious and 1 green hp curio. I realize that the min maxing in this game takes a big backseat to just playing well and working as a team

[vernal frost]

kinetic deflection is a best in slot for any build honestly

best in tier rather

[torn hamlet]

ok cool yea i will give it a try for sure!

[prisma perch]

Right on! 🤘

[vernal frost]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-high-five-yes-oh-hell-gif-14003436

[prisma perch]

I’ve actually been playing ogryn a lot lately haven’t gotten back to psyker yet.

Was hoping for a surge fix on trauma staff tbh.

[vernal frost]

tbh im just hibernating till the new map rolls out

played for a bit when i heard about the blessing rate buffs

got 6 t4s out of 7 upgraded..

[prisma perch]

Lol, I don’t blame you!
That’s awesome! which one are you missing?

[vernal frost]

oh i just meant i upgraded different stuff on different chars

[prisma perch]

Oh, I gotcha!

[torn hamlet]

Hahaha yea I have been doing the same. Been leveling up my ogryn to 30 and he is so fun.

[vernal frost]

the only good ones were unstable power and something i cant quite remember

[torn hamlet]

My first two classes were zealot then vet and now after playing psyker and ogryn I made the wrong choice

vet and zealot are just soooooo boring compared to ogryn and psyker

[vernal frost]

psyker's been my main since day one, probably has the most hours played even now

besides that one time i've played like 20 missions in a row with zealot to do that stupid penance

on malice!!

[prisma perch]

Ogryn is crazy fun! I did exactly what you did too… vet & zealot first then psyker, finally ogryn!

[ionic needle]

psyker first, then zealot, ogryn, vet and back to psyker

[prisma perch]

I love psyker and ogryn so much that I won’t return to the other two until subclasses come out!

[torn hamlet]

Yea I mean psyker always looked cool but I love melee classes and zealot seemed cool to me. But now after playing the other classes the zealot just feels so mediocre and weak honestly.

[torn hamlet]

Yes exactly my same sentiment!

[ionic needle]

I really enjoyed vet with bolter

but nothing comes close to shredder psyker

[torn hamlet]

My cousin is in love with his bolter vet but for me somehow the bolter is just so clunky to use.

I use it on my zealot once in a while to just deal with big threats but I dont like going through a mission using it as my primary.

Ogryn guns are so much more fun haha

[ionic needle]

I almost always enjoy the builds that can kill elites fast

Nothing like running up to a pack of ragers and just obliterating them

Also I'm shit at aiming so both shredder and bolter works great

[torn hamlet]

Shredder vet is kind of fun. But honestly vet is just such a boring class for me.

[ionic needle]

Yeah but it feels like shredder is just a worse bolter on vet

[vernal frost]

ehhh

its a different niche

id say

[ionic needle]

yeah shredder is obviously way faster

but it can't deal with carapace like the bolter can

[vernal frost]

its for the rambo playstyle of clearing everything save for crushers

[ionic needle]

yeah, and it works really well on psyker because BB covers crushers

so literally everything can be dealt with

[vernal frost]

bolter is more of a high value target deleter

[ionic needle]

except maybe annoying shooters behind cover

[vernal frost]

well i must say i dont like neither bolter nor shredder vets

[ionic needle]

I think I'd enjoy other weapons on vet more if I was better at aiming

[vernal frost]

well its never late to start practicing

[ionic needle]

It looks like fun standing in the back clearing the room by just clicking heads

[vernal frost]

its kinda satisfying yeah

point and click action adventure

and your team is safe and sound

[ionic needle]

yeah, actually the most fun part of these types of games is feeling useful to the team

clearing elites, crowd controlling, clicking heads in the back doesn't really matter as long as I feel like it made some sort of difference

[prisma perch]

I used to run agrip brauto with hit & run on vet. You could be so aggressive and just keep chaining your ability.

Then I discovered the twin link on ogryn, lol.

[vernal frost]

i just feel like that a team should just always have at least one hitscan weapon

and that niche is best suited with vet

had a quickjoin today when the closest thing to hitscan was the ogryn's stubber

on the section when you're waiting for the elevator on a bridge

there was a sniper on the other end of the bridge kek

[prisma perch]

Ugh, it’s terrible being at times being stuck with mk2 ripper and it is up to you having to kill all the ranged on ogryn

[ionic needle]

I like to think those lone team wiping snipers gets an MVP medal afterwards

[prisma perch]

The gorgon can sometimes nail those snipers at a range QUICK! But at other times it can be agonizing.

[vernal frost]

on the topic of snipers...

i had one save my life and the run from a dog

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/627034802574589958/1102251350357725264/8mb.video-Up2-k9P5QxFu.mp4

[ionic needle]

hahaha

love dogs being cancelled by their team almost as much as I hate seeing a fellow psyker not using PW to push dogs off of people through walls

[vernal frost]

i just love saving people from dogs

too bad it doesnt work vertically iirc

[ionic needle]

yes! PW feels like it was 50% designed to do that

[prisma perch]

Good stroke of luck there

[vernal frost]

but yeah if you were pounced and im somewhere in the range of 30m you know you're getting saved

had a game today when two vets checked the room for ammo first before turning a corner and getting the dog off me

[fresh reef]

really wish we had the top half of these new prison uniforms

[prisma perch]

Gotta collect all that ammo and keep that icon white, lol.

[vernal frost]

average vet gameplay

[prisma perch]

It might be the narcissism in me but I swear vets will grab ammo just to screw other vets out of it. Eh, that actually gives circumstantial evidence.

[tropic vigil]

is surge blessing on voidstrike staff worth it?

[leaden thunder]

generally no

[tropic vigil]

it seems like its trash

[final scarab]

guys its maybe silly but how master survival works exactly? Do i almost need to explode?

[leaden thunder]

it's funni but not worth using other then for some meme set up

[vernal frost]

start screaming and holding your head

then f

[safe mountain]

Push peril over 100% then ult

[final scarab]

okie thanks

[mental rock]

you have to trigger the animation when you are about to blow up then cancel it

[final scarab]

i got too used to keep it in check 😄

[long wharf]

and then fall out of your chair and cry for mommy

[mental rock]

yeah its shitty cause it makes you lose flurry charges if you are using it

[final scarab]

guess it was made for people who are learning/leveling

[vernal frost]

damn i hope fs doesnt send assassins after me if they find out i knew about this penance's existence since march from a friend in their localization team lol

https://tenor.com/view/cat-boner-dick-pp-hard-boner-cat-horny-gif-22689656

[gritty marsh]

Whats the standard fire build

[fierce sinew]

311112

[gritty marsh]

Thx

[hearty python]

I was in a match once with a bugged sniper on the landing platform in Enclavum Barross that no one could target. Hit then with 6 charges of AB through the floor/wall and killed it. Also constantly using it for knocking dogs off people if I can't reach them easy.

[hexed ether]

sprint to flak or does do enough to flak already?

[fierce sinew]

switch to flak and move around with your busted infinite dodge mobility sword

[supple skiff]

so, how are we feeling about the warp absorbtion buff? I've played around with it a bit but haven't really come to a conclusion

[vernal frost]

the only thing i need to know is that its not quietude

[leaden thunder]

I mean it will probably have the same issues as it did before

[fierce sinew]

the problem with it is the same

[vernal frost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431122901886828554/867090975885492264/775568810781704213.gif

[leaden thunder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1071676125287292929/1085604871950053416/rrane.gif

[fierce sinew]

it still only gives you toughness when you don't need it

[supple skiff]

yeah, like I enjoy how I can just get full toughness from one illsi swipe, but its not on demand

[fierce sinew]

that's not something a numerical change is really going to address

[leaden thunder]

similar issues to zealots Purify in blood, on paper it's not bad in practice it's just worse then other options

[supple skiff]

maybe if the staff left clicks weren't such ass it be a different story

probably not though

[fierce sinew]

quietude generates toughness when you're winning easily, toughness when things are hard, burst panic toughness with shout, toughness just ambiently between fights even out of coherency, and toughness without any enemy interaction required if you decide you need it

that's just too much

to bandage over with a magnitude change

like if warp absorption was 100% it would be worse still

the number is almost irrelevant

[leaden thunder]

get blazing spirit if you want to do that

that build is actually ok

[fallow falcon]

What should I do to improve this?

Just commit to the full crit build?

[fresh reef]

Now there's no just no reason to take EH

even less so since Quietude exists

[leaden thunder]

get blazing spirit on it

in place of sustained

[safe fulcrum]

Bro, I cant see shit

[primal plume]

a sword

because whats what we need for our space wizard

I just want a new staff

[fierce sinew]

beam staff waiting room

I don't even want a new staff

I'd be very happy to have the OG balance v2 beam staff

[primal plume]

Id rather have some new than reuse vermintide staves

[north cradle]

But I want a hitscan staff

That I can control what targets I hit*

[tropic vigil]

2h force sword going to be pretty cool but yea more staffs are a must eventually

[supple skiff]

whats a 2h force sword going to add that either demios or illsi don't already

more reach and damage per swing is about all I can think of

[tropic vigil]

more fun

[long wharf]

The staves need to be changed into variations of each other to share blessings

Before we get new staves

[tropic vigil]

yea

i think shared blessing is good but it depends on what "variations" means

id rather them be unique to each other than super similar.

[ornate hamlet]

It is

My psyker does not use staves because it puts her in too much contact with the warp demons

And then the warp demons get in my mind

And they know what's in the homework folder

And the next time I channel warp power they run instead of lending me energy

Quite the inconvenience

[north cradle]

The Executioner Sword moveset hopefully

[ornate hamlet]

I fucking wish

Jesus, I so wish that

Yes please, give me an executioner force sword

This is the best idea I've seen on this server

I want a neon sign on that

[lunar hollow]

dude im tempted to go back to psyker

that cape cosmetic is fuckin awesome

[ember sentinel]

yeah im a big fan of the cape and the new visor thing

been using the visor with the old grey/black penance gear and the new stuff

[lunar hollow]

i really like the zealot/psyker cosmetic sets from the new penances

[ember sentinel]

im glad zealot got new gear i wasnt a fan of his old stuff tbh

some of his penance gear wasnt bad but i havent played enough zealot to get them

[ornate hamlet]

The black and red stuff was peak

[lunar hollow]

the problem with zealot is most of the paid cosmetics for the class are kinda goofy

so most zealots ran penance stuff

and thats all you ever saw

[ornate hamlet]

Then the higher stuff was too many continuous colours and the highest one had some weird shoulder candle

[ember sentinel]

ok the shoulder candle looked kinda cool in lights out

[ornate hamlet]

I stuck to the black and red that looked more practical than fluffy

[shadow quail]

I'm not a fan of the new stuff, just the prison garb with a cape added

[ruby summit]

good? bad? need changes?

[ember sentinel]

swap barrage for harnessing

and then probably flak for that crit chance but thats just me

crit chance might be better than i think it is on purg

[fierce sinew]

it's back to being warp nexus

and crit chance is good on purg

[crude cape]

useable base, or nah?

i was told dmg is dump stat, but dunno about warp resistance

charge quell and blast being basically all 80 is kinda nice tho

[ember sentinel]

Oh lol

Warp res can be you just have to be very careful

Easier high damage is great till your quelling so often your dps tanks

[ember sentinel]

That might be a little low for me personally

[crude cape]

the overall stat pool, or just the dmg stat?

[ember sentinel]

Tbh i was worried about the warp res

How much do you generate with a slam on that?

Im not a trauma expert sadly only started using it recently

[cold geode]

at 60% warp res you should get 4 fully charged shots and be between 97 and 100% peril

[ember sentinel]

Ok thats not too bad

50% is probably closer to 3

But thats not as bad as i thought

Why is damage a dump stat for trauma?

[cold geode]

trauma doesnt do that much damage to begin with

[ember sentinel]

It doesnt? I feel like its one of the stronger ones given i kill anything i hit with it

Maybe im just used to void

[cold geode]

my strongest hits with it are around 500

[fresh reef]

anyone else really wish we had the psiveils without the mouth cloth?

[ember sentinel]

I actually like the cover but yeah it would be a good option

[ember sentinel]

Hm i suppose that isnt too great

[cold geode]

but, you have to remember its 500 damage to an unlimited number of targets so long as they are standing inside the circle

[supple skiff]

and it ignores armor

[ember sentinel]

Yeah it does delete hordes

[cold geode]

vs void which has a max hit if 6 total i believe?

[ember sentinel]

I use it to kill groups or just knock over crushers and whatnot

[supple skiff]

does void have a max target count?

[ember sentinel]

I thought full charge just went till it hit a wall

[supple skiff]

my understanding as well

[ember sentinel]

The explosion at the end has a limit i think

[supple skiff]

unless it hits certain targets

[ember sentinel]

/half charge

[primal fjord]

What are good perks for a void staff?

[supple skiff]

warp flurry and quell

[primal fjord]

Maniac?

[supple skiff]

oh perks my b

[ember sentinel]

I run flak/unarmored

The damage to maniac is so bad anyway i dont bother with it

Just BB/sword

[supple skiff]

I shoot for flak and unarmored as well

void isn't great against specials and such

[ember sentinel]

It can take out snipers and knock over bursters

Thats kinda it

Sometimes itll take out random shotgunners in a horde

But yeah its def not meant for specials

[primal fjord]

I have to choose between 25% Maniac and 20% Carapace..

[supple skiff]

ooof

get rid of carapace

since it cant damage carapace

not great starting perks, what are the blessings and stats on it

[primal fjord]

Don't have enough plasteel yet for final one but first is tier 3 Warp Flurry

[ember sentinel]

Thats good at least

If you get flak on it itll still be fine at taking out shooters and hordes at least

Just slower

But flurry is one of the blessings you want

[primal fjord]

I figured since it has Flurry already. Last can be what ever I want later. Just have to farm for blessing.

Was unsure of perks.

[ember sentinel]

Yeah you got unfort perks

But it happens

If you get transfer peril

Itll be fine till you get something better

Just swap cara to flak/unarmored

[supple skiff]

with flurry already on it, its worth the plasteel for sure

[long wharf]

the cape needs to be a back slot item

[supple skiff]

machine gunning full charges into hordes staying peril neutral is great

[ember sentinel]

Yeah void isnt the best but doing that is always fun

Just deletes hordes and shooters

And it do like it on maps like enclavum

And whatever the one with the bridge defense is

[supple skiff]

each staff has its niche, but I can't for the life of me use purge

can't stand it, surge isn't much better

[ember sentinel]

I like them both but i generally run purge on maps where ik i dont need much range

[supple skiff]

Trauma is fun bit the only time I feel like im doing somehting meaningful with it is when im juggling a bunch of crushers

[ember sentinel]

/on bosses so i can run deimos with it and clear trash

And also kill the boss

Trauma feels good to me

Its just awkward esp at first

But it kills anything i hit it with

And juggles ogyrns like you said

Well it doesnt kill anything i hit it with

But it at least CCs it

[supple skiff]

yeah idk, I just feel the need to bring something that lets me deal with shooters at range. Which is either void or a las

with my build I have pretty well everything else covered. but straggling shooters seem to give me a hard time

[cold geode]

take illlisi with deflector and KD

[ember sentinel]

Yeah the no range thing is why i ran void exclusively 90% of the time till my last 100 or so hours

[supple skiff]

that what I run

[ember sentinel]

You get used to approaching shooters or just letting vets deal with them

[supple skiff]

or a demois with the same set up

[ember sentinel]

And doing what you can

[supple skiff]

see its that last bit

putting my life in vets hands

I think if trauma could aim a bit further I could deal

[ember sentinel]

LMB will one shot scabs with +flak damage

Which is nice

But it can be awkward at distance cause of travel time

[crude cape]

i really wish flame staff had the normal M1, like surge and void still do etc instead of the 'flame puff' i feel like it would help a lot

i tend to do quick m2's instead of flame puff m1 anyway, so i dont use it much, but i have seen other psykers who spam it a lot to stagger

[fierce sinew]

purg left click is goated

[crude cape]

sorry to ask again, never used trauma so unsure. Is this a better base than before? or nah, keep going? lol im like...300k dockets in rolling these not even found 1 i wanted to upgrade to blue yet

i guess 343 stats isnt ideal

god they all kinda suck

triple 80s is kinda neat tho

[ember sentinel]

Darktide moment

[crude cape]

ya

that bottom one looks kinda cool

but you can only do 3 full charges

not 4

warp res is too low

[primal fjord]

🤔

[deft gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/screenshot-screenshots-krien-mariah-ken-lee-gif-21172887

[supple skiff]

surge reads as being pretty cool, but it doesn't do a lot in practice

[ember sentinel]

Surge is just a staff i enjoy here and there when i just wanna play support/deimos heavy game

Also its really cool aesthetically

[crude cape]

why run deimos with surge

surge is bad at hordes, i would run illy

i like deimos with purg or void

[ember sentinel]

Cause deimos does well vs hordes

Just get slaughterer

[crude cape]

ya, it still does ok you're right

just not the same as illy tho

but that poke on specials

is so fun lol

[ember sentinel]

Its not like ily but it does well enough

[crude cape]

1 shotting mutants as they charge you with a poke to the eye is amazing

[ember sentinel]

Then it lets me take care of specials that are stunned or w/e

[crude cape]

ya, psykers are a lot more versatile/strong in general than on launch

feels like a new class

gotta give credit where credit is due, we launched as the buggiest/jankiest class with the most obscure mechanics that were hard to get value out of

and they fixed basically all the major gripes

[ember sentinel]

Yeah this game has quite a few things right

Just a lot wrong

[crude cape]

shoulda been that way on launch tho!

but at least they got it right

[ember sentinel]

I love it to death hopefully they figure stuff out

[crude cape]

like think about it

[ember sentinel]

Be sad to see it die

[crude cape]

Warp charges 1 at a time, general number increases on feats, warp unleashed effecting all damage, quelling buffs all around, BB QOL/buffs, fixed the jankiest staves which would randomly tick you to 100% and insta overcharge you.

there was more, but psyker on launch was SO much worse lol

half of my group started on psyker, and i was the only one who didnt swap to another class

[ember sentinel]

Psyker was pretty trash yeah

[crude cape]

most got their first trauma staff, the early version pre buff, and said "fuck this" and went to vet lol bc guns felt better

[ember sentinel]

And you lost all warp charges

[near gale]

Hm... is this staff salvageable?

[ember sentinel]

Ehhh

[near gale]

I kind of wish warp resist and damage was swapped

[ember sentinel]

Its not great

[cold geode]

just noticed they changed the tool tip back to warp nexus and fixed the description lol

[near gale]

Blast radius is pretty meh, though, on the voidestrike

[ember sentinel]

Cant get ideal blessings

[crude cape]

this alone is such a huge change. It felt so bad trying to constantly stack warp charges the entire map

[ember sentinel]

It could be decent with flurry/nexus and the perks arent bad

But you cant make a perfect staff

[north solstice]

not with that attitude

[ember sentinel]

Also i like the new void sound but i kinda miss the pop from the old one

[cursive marten]

they still not fix the rating system I have a 381 staff

[north solstice]

bro they havent even fixed the game

[manic halo]

I love my darktide themed slot machine simulator fuck u mean

[crude cape]

fi

[ember sentinel]

I actually really like this game but yeah its got numerous issues

[crude cape]

i do too

approaching 200 hours on basically psyker alone

[ember sentinel]

Im around 320 a lot of it is on psyker but ive played a good bit of vet and zealot

Ogryn got to 30

Thats kinda it

[crude cape]

i got some others around lvl 10 only, so not much

just a handful of matches earlier on feeling them out

[ember sentinel]

Damn

[cold geode]

wow, got surge from hadron for void...

to bad its not great

[ember sentinel]

It functions

But its not great lol

Not when theres transfer/flurry

[jade imp]

It's done!

[ember sentinel]

Damn

[cold geode]

nice

[ember sentinel]

Mines good but not that good

[topaz yoke]

You guys don't like Jedi blocking lasers?

[ember sentinel]

Nah i prefer to just slide

[jade imp]

That'll be my ohter weapon.

[ember sentinel]

And take damage

But deflector feels cool

Rip passive deflector on illisi

[north solstice]

imo they should just make deflector a passive thing for FS, but thats mostly cuz i want a free blessing slot

[ember sentinel]

I think that would be kinda strong personally

Given illsi/deimos is already insanely good

[little salmon]

I wish FS didn't make it so you had to get some penances only in private lobbies. How am I supposed to get a strong ogryn to tank demon host so I can sit there and BB it for 5 minutes ;~;

[cyan notch]

lfg

[little salmon]

Thats fair enough I guess

[cyan notch]

u pretty much had to lfg for those anyway

[olive ember]

Im ngl

whenever i see FS

I assume you are talking about force swords

[little salmon]

I mean, I just hopped into a private and asked if anyone would help me with a penance, if not, then all good, just play through it and try again next run

[olive ember]

also yeah idk how I feel about private lobby only achievements but eh, I think they should have decent achievements that are doable in public lobbies anyways

[ember sentinel]

Thankfully i got all the penances pre patch

[olive ember]

I got all the psyker penances so yea

[primal fjord]

Anyone got any good void talent builds. Using Deimos..

[manic halo]

managed to get them pre patch as well. Thank big E

[cyan notch]

its only like 1 penance for psyker

[ember sentinel]

Like feats?

[manic halo]

every class just has that one bullshit penence i swear

[vestal raven]

insane

[primal fjord]

Yeah

[olive ember]

void talents 🤔

dunno if arcotash is on

most of mine are fairly outdated by now