psyker-class

[split oxide]

airlocks exist.
late joins are reunited by 11-15 secs after start
(before the GameDirector starts spawning immobilizers).
If you join AFTER 1st Encounter, you will spawn next to them. (5 sec invuln.)

[ornate hamlet]

Even then, it still happened to me, either a third or half the time.

Horrible internet connection moments.

[frigid briar]

is it worth taking the left staff? they'd be pretty much identical after I refine it and stuff

[split oxide]

SMH, I ONLY play Quickplays.
You start at 'LZ' only if they haven't completed First Encounter.
Maybe if you start 'looking around' they might reach the 2nd one.
That 'howl'; that's the GameDirector punishing you.

[olive ember]

I'm sorry amigo, if you can't hard carry with a staff that will make any five enemies in the game stop what they are doing and stand there for a few seconds and take damage on top of it in the time it takes you to right click, left click, and then then R. that's the definition of a player issue. The only staff that matches it in versatility is the purgatus staff. The purgatus staff just has different enemies and situations it's weak again

If i'm running surge staff I rarely get into a situation where my whole team is dead, because I have the tools that stops all the specials that suprise wipe teams. When i am in that situation pressing my F key to push/light everything around me on fire and some slash/push with my Illsi typically gives me the breathing room to go back the dogs/trappers etc under control.

What I'm getting from this is you aren't super great at melee crowd control, and that's fine a lot of people aren't, and it's a learned skill. But that's not an issue with a surge staff. It's jsut an issue that you can kind of get around with staffs like the purgatus.

[hollow current]

Looks good to me. Just slap warp flurry over barrage and choose your perk of preference over the ranged crit.

[frigid briar]

I'm asking whether its worth it over the one on the right. I'd effectively lose a bit of aoe radius for a bit more crit

[karmic reef]

Is gun psyker any good?

[split oxide]

I like Surge. But with Quickplay, I can't ALWAYS trust people to stay in the same room to take it down.

I'm left holding a leash to muties, hounds, bullwarks and ragers.. and they're in the other room mat hunting.
My Peril is rising, but not as fast as my rage.

[frigid briar]

bring a combat axe, chop down all the big bads, profit

(for legal reasons this is a joke)

[hollow current]

you lose roughly half a meter in all the cloud radius stats which I doubt would be particularly noticeable.

[frigid briar]

you'd be surprised how often I'm stuck trying to burn gunny bois just at the edge of my range, but fair point

[olive ember]

Fucking @long wharf don’t unironically point to the shit copypasta lmao

[long wharf]

🙂

[split oxide]

I've watched youtube plays and they were good. I don't think it works all the time.

AscendantBlaze + Shredder: use it like a Vet's BioTarget ('F' then shoot the ones on fire)
With the right feats: the tick damage amplifies the SoulBlaze.

[devout sentinel]

so is it best to upgrade to blue over and over to fish for level 4 blessings that I dont have? or upgrade stuff all the way to orange

[long wharf]

surge4lyfe

[karmic reef]

I forget what shredder does

[worn cypress]

ymmv but I've had 0 success going to orange. lots of 3s, but all my lv4 blessings have been from melk

[olive ember]

I mean yes but

[frigid briar]

if you're just fishing for blessings, taking a blue to orange takes about twice as much plasteel as making something blue

is just not worth

[split oxide]

it's an okay pistol, good ammo efficiency, but you only want to tickle the enemy - but the shot amplifies the SoulBlaze tick-damage

[karmic reef]

Should you just buy greens and upgrade them to blue to look for blessings

[worn cypress]

I do that now

[karmic reef]

Oh I thought I was a blessing name lol

[karmic reef]

How does it amplify it?

[frigid briar]

I dunno. If you're just looking for T3s you can probably just keep buying gray items

For T4 blessings, Melk is your best bet

keep in mind higher base stat weapons are more likely to roll something rare, but also cost more to upgrade

[split oxide]

can't remember the feats.. gimme a moment

[worn cypress]

oh I guess I've gotten some 4s from emperor drops too

so could always grind missions hard

[hollow current]

pinning fire gives you a damage buff for staggering enemies which is really easy to do. So all you need to do is keep the buff up and your soul blaze damage increases by 75% at t4.

[frigid briar]

I mean, that also gets u plasteel so that's what gets you ahead anyway

[worn cypress]

I think I got my tacaxe bromentum from emperor drop

yeah

[shadow wigeon]

Is there new evidence for this? It's been tested every few weeks and doesn't show a difference.

[olive ember]

It’s just hearsay, conjecture, and anecdotal evidence

[frigid briar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ ^

[olive ember]

No one actually knows

[shadow wigeon]

FWIW Surge + Deflector is my favourite clutch build. You can solo a lot if you need to rez a whole team.

I've tested 140 samples and found no difference between blessings

from sub 330 to over 360

[frigid briar]

on the topic of shredder autopistols tho, they're kinda busted atm. Chews through ammo and enemies like nobody's business, so long as you have Pinning Fire (higher prio) and Blaze Away (lower prio) as your blessings

[leaden thunder]

though i;d say it's still better to focus on upgrading higher level weapons

then lower ones

[shadow wigeon]

If you are fishing.... it's ok to roll. But once you have a blessing or two you actually want

[frigid briar]

if you're fishing for blessings and have no intention to use them, probably go for lower level

[shadow wigeon]

You'd rather roll a proper item, one you'd actually like to use

+10% Ordo dockets is the secret GOAT perk for getting top tier gear.

[leaden thunder]

I do think there is some variance to it based on level, but I ahve 0 idea what it is, I am fairly sure someone found it at least for curios

[olive ember]

I refuse to buy into this… ordo cult

[leaden thunder]

like below a certain rating they literally could not roll a t4 perk

[shadow wigeon]

I rerolled to +30% and it was glorious

[leaden thunder]

put it through the auto roller as well

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah I think there may be tiers to curios, but since they fixed Brunt's, it looks like 300+ has same/nearly identical blessings chance.

[leaden thunder]

that is my assumption as well

[shadow wigeon]

I'm fairly certain sub 300 had lower roll chance prior to the Brunt fix

Actually.. who knows, that's ahwile ago now

[summer prairie]

Even with a 17% health curio I was getting same results as with a 21% health one when rerolling perks

[split oxide]

Feats, 1,1,1,3,2
Shredder: PINNING FIRE REQUIRED.
BB a couple of people to get WarpCharges.

The WarpUnleased increases bullet damage.
Psychic Communion to maintain WarpCharge.
Kinetic Flayer for cos 'many bullets'.

1. Whip out the Shredder, FIRST
2. AB (Pinning fire amplifies AB to insane damage)
3. 1-shot tap elites out(as long as they're still staggered) (trashmob already dead)

Useful in big encounters, but in corridors, it's less efficient.
Plus you have to remembr to keep WarpCharges up.(remember to BB)

[olive ember]

Meh I don’t even like AB with shredder

I just use KB

[split oxide]

I don't do gunker, but KB is like a revolver, 5x shots and you're out of peril and still a few 4 secs of accelerated BB left(if you manage peril).

[spice veldt]

5 BBs is enough for the full 10 seconds of flayer

unless you do that glitch where you activate your ult but cancel out of it, maintaining your flayer buff but getting your ult refunded and allowing you to ult again, stacking two flayers on top of each other

[crude cape]

i still need to make a good illisi to compare, but ever since i got a decent deimos and watched this video someone linked me the other day

changed everything lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlUkBoKxY10&ab_channel=Pygex

this weapon is nuts

kinda tricky to train your muscle memory to do the poke combo bc i wasnt used to it but once you start getting it down

however its very meh at horde clearing, thats where the staff comes in

[split oxide]

Flayer is good: but as a Purg, I am using Wildfire.
The flames spread on their own.
Cooldown is 15s.

[spice veldt]

oops I meant barrage

[split oxide]

Yes, 1xKB is about 4x free BB , with 2x more managed if you are fast enough.

[spice veldt]

I don't think you can get a 6th one off

the 4th one puts you at 97% peril and barrage will be near the end of its 10 second duration already

[split oxide]

Maybe I had high WarpResist. I don't recall.
No you're right, 6th one was normal speed.

[shadow wigeon]

You can get 5 off KB and 6th at normal puts you at 100% if you have tranquil (and I guess... at least a few stacks going into it)

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/kmxgqm

barrage ends before the 6th BB can even start

[split oxide]

My bad, I was targetting poxwalkers, lost a bit of time switching targets.
I normally use AB, no KB.
(very rusty since I only used it for penances)

[spice veldt]

understandable

i was looking through my clips and I came upon this old clip of a mutant with his long fucking ass arm
https://streamable.com/t2z3nb

[late yew]

BB vs purgatus against bosses?

[waxen dragon]

Anyone know best way to get pick'n'mix?

[shadow wigeon]

Unless they patched it, you can get it off Hunting Grounds dogs.
Comms Plex also has a lot of gunners spawn in the hacking room.

[waxen dragon]

ty!

whats the best gear setup for pick'n'mix?

[shadow wigeon]

let your team know you're going for it, if youre in comms plex.... or head to LFG to see fi you can find a group. It helps.

[shadow wigeon]

I would go full efficiency: Tranquility, Battery and Kinetic Barrage

[waxen dragon]

thanks! does my staff charge and quel bonus matter?

[magic burrow]

muties are insane after they got buffed

[shadow wigeon]

Nope, you're pretty much going to have to BB back to back.

Staff quell/charge etc. only matters if you have staff equipped.

[waxen dragon]

thanks!

[shadow wigeon]

The penance starts after you BB the first one, so if you want to be conservative you can start the first BB normal, then hit Barrage, then try to get the other 4

But if your team is competing for kills with you... then best to just hit Barrage and try to get all 5.

A vet with bio optic helps

[waxen dragon]

how lucky would i get if i just bb a lot

[shadow wigeon]

But... then you need the rest of the team not to gank them

[shadow wigeon]

1%

[waxen dragon]

dam

[shadow wigeon]

you need 5 one-shot elites

You sort of need to set it up, or pay attention

[leaden thunder]

pick and mix?

[waxen dragon]

pick'n'mix

[leaden thunder]

I got it naturally

[shadow wigeon]

FWIW it was pretty trivial getting it on dogs

[spice veldt]

on comms plex, I got it on heresy without intentionally going for the penance

[olive ember]

Find a bunch of gunners

[shadow wigeon]

I adjusted my perentage

[olive ember]

BB one of them

[spice veldt]

though that was early into the game's life cycle right when commsplex was released

[olive ember]

Immediately press F and BB 4 more

That’s the way I got it

[waxen dragon]

thanks all

wml

[primal plume]

I cant believe I did this

I forgot to sing the praises of the Voidstrike staff

[late yew]

purgatus so boring

[olive ember]

It’s a flamer

You take it and you burn hordes and go haha horde go burn

[late yew]

no shit

water is also wet

[olive ember]

I mean water by itself isn’t wet

[late yew]

Should i do knife psyker?

Brit psyker

[olive ember]

I mean knife psyker is just better zealot psyker pretty sure

[shadow wigeon]

The Wildfire build is a bit more fun. You don't have to be a fire turret all the time.

But when push comes to shove... you just fall back to it

[fresh sky]

any purgatus psyker experts on right now?

or fans of the flame?

[shadow wigeon]

What do you want to know?

[fresh sky]

i haven't done flame for ages and not sure what the good blessings are right now

also good perks to go for

[shadow wigeon]

Flurry is great for uptime, Harness for faster burn, Focused for in-your-face purging

[fresh sky]

terrifying barrage any good?

i have harness, but no decent flurry yet

[shadow wigeon]

I'm a big proponent of +Unyielding for boss damage

[fresh sky]

ooh yeah that makes sense

unyielding and flak?

[shadow wigeon]

Can't go wrong

[fresh sky]

feels like flak is good on most things

[shadow wigeon]

Terrifying Barrage is kinda janky with Purg

[fresh sky]

so ideal combo is mostly harness and flurry?

[shadow wigeon]

I prefer Flurry + Focused now, but Harness + Flurry is probably most popular

[fresh sky]

ah gotcha

[late yew]

garbage on all staves

[fresh sky]

hope i can pick up a 3 or 4 flurry soon

[late yew]

or rather

Just garbage blessing

[shadow wigeon]

Flurry makes the uptime on Purg pretty awesome. You can min-charge your first 1-3 attacks just to get flurry stacks.

[fresh sky]

i guess it just doesn't function properly?

[shadow wigeon]

It's just hard to get value out of it

it works fine, but very specific circumstances for it to matter

[fresh sky]

@shadow wigeon yeah that makes sense - i use flurry on trauma and surge

@shadow wigeon need to find it for purg

[shadow wigeon]

TBH Flurry matters less on Purg, but it feels better because fo how fast the charge becomes.

[fresh sky]

yeah i guess if they are burning, they aren't really shooting back anyhow

[stable silo]

Crit and flank imo crits add extra burn stacks each tic can proc

Flak is important due to the dmg nerf unyielding is not bad either

[fresh sky]

what's flank?

[stable silo]

Harness flurry my two favs

Haha flak im typing on my phone and it auto corrected

[shadow wigeon]

I think 5% chance for one extra tick is over-rated, personally.

Also, in theory you are looking for 76% burn stat

To hit maximum stacks.

It's not a huge deal

[stable silo]

Eh the 5% stacks with harness and base crit so it adds up

[fresh sky]

i've only got two high rolled purg so far -

[shadow wigeon]

Well you have to compare it to other perks, not to the total. It's just a damage buff in the end.

[fresh sky]

which do you guys think is better?

(i didn't reroll ranged damage to pox to flak yet)

[shadow wigeon]

Left one with Flurry would be my bae

I play Wildfire build now though which encourages more frequent, shorter bursts (so Focused is nice)

[stable silo]

Left staff better

[fresh sky]

yeah i have wildfire running

[shadow wigeon]

If you use Wildfire, you should use Slaughter

[stable silo]

Oh wildfire id run warp battery for bigger ults and higher dot dmg myself

But to each their own

[shadow wigeon]

If you are not pumping Wilfire, it's not worth it, IMO

[fresh sky]

@shadow wigeon i have slaughter on my sword, is that what you mean?

[stable silo]

When the dot is on the enemy power gains still apply to the dot

[shadow wigeon]

Yes. When you apply burn stacks (to a horde), switch to your sword and get Slaughter stacks. They will boost the power of your burn.

[stable silo]

So u toss.a.bunch of fire and whip out your sword to smack stuff and buff the dot works for bleeds as well

[fresh sky]

@shadow wigeon oh shit, really??? that's really good to know!!!

[shadow wigeon]

"+power" applies to all damage you're doing. Obviously, only when you have the sword out.

[fresh sky]

@shadow wigeon i heard about the gunpsyker pinning fire effect but did not know slaughterer did it too

[shadow wigeon]

So 4 stacks of Wildfire can burn through a horde and travel quite far, with 5 stack Slaughter

and kills from burn will proc Slaighter

so it's sort of self-sustaining.

[fresh sky]

wow that's really cool

[shadow wigeon]

It's competitive with Battery, but you need to lean into it.

[stable silo]

Pinning fire is just a power booster but easier to apply since its ranged same thing

[fresh sky]

thanks @shadow wigeon @stable silo

so swap staff and sword often

[stable silo]

Downfall of wildfire imo is that its best scenario is horde clear which your already great at but doenst help vs elites and bossesb

[fresh sky]

to kind of keep both burn and slaughter up

[shadow wigeon]

Well, apply at least 4 stacks, and then swap

[stable silo]

Where battery gives bigger ults and higher dmg against everything horde clear and boss.dmg

[shadow wigeon]

The trick is to apply to horde, then go hunt big targets like Crushers, etc. with Deimos.

I also use Warp Absorption with Wildfire

Because of the delayed kills

And if you're an absolute madlad, you can skip Communion and go Aura

[fresh sky]

i'm using 111222

wierdly thanks to AB and psychic comm, i get enough head pops a lot of times in hordes, and i actually do head pop vs ranged sometimes if we're far away

[shadow wigeon]

I'm now at 212122, but will switch to 211122 in case it feels like a higher risk game.

[fresh sky]

i run a stam curio, so it feels like i have enough block even using deflector

[stable silo]

I run 311112

Quietude is soooo good

[fresh sky]

yeah all my other builds with other staffs use quietude

[shadow wigeon]

Purg can use any lvl1 feat really. I find WA works best with Wildfire though

[fresh sky]

i've never really tried warp absorption, but i could see how that works well with the burn

[shadow wigeon]

the passive toughness gain as you melee fight is cool.

When you light a horde, it can be pretty silly how long you keep getting WA procs for

[fresh sky]

wait does burn count for WA?

[stable silo]

Any warp dmg kill

[fresh sky]

like if they die without you aiming and actively burning them

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, it's a warp attack

[fresh sky]

just soulblaze counts? nice!

[stable silo]

But it has to be the burn that kills them

[shadow wigeon]

Rumbler or Flamer can mess wth Wildfire I've noticed.

They kill too many targets simultaneously and can stop spread.

[fresh sky]

thats pretty good - i was worried you have to shoot at them directly and have the direct damage tick kill

[stable silo]

The 10% chance on your lvl 30 feat applies to anything dieing under the effect of soulblaze so even if its 1 stack and somene else kills it you can still get a procb

[shadow wigeon]

Anyone's soulblaze too

[fresh sky]

that's actually better than i thought

[shadow wigeon]

You don't even have to apply it

[fresh sky]

@stable silo i didn't know that

[shadow wigeon]

If you have AB talent, and someone else applies blaze, you can get warp charges.

[stable silo]

Ya thats why i love warp battery your at 6 stacks so easily

[shadow wigeon]

Which may not be intended but hasn't been changed.

[stable silo]

Which is just raw dmg

[fresh sky]

learning a lot right now (i mostly use trauma and before i used shock)

[shadow wigeon]

There are alot of sneaky details to Psyker

[fresh sky]

yeah it's hard to tell what counts for what, and all the strange interactions like the slaughter soulblaze thing

[shadow wigeon]

A few notes about Wildfire:

1. it does not transfer more than 4 stacks, and never above 4 stacks. So.... make sure you applied at least 4 stacks, but applying 10 won't improve Wildfire much
2. It does NOT spread at only 1 stack. So if you AB at 0 or 1 stack (which both apply 1 stack of soul blaze), Wildfire will not spread.

[stable silo]

If they ever buff ww maybe wildfire would be better ha

Then that would be a fun build to run

Imagine ww wildfire with kinetic

[fresh sky]

yeah would be nice if it let you transfer max of 4 but to add above 4 if the mob has a few stacks already

[stable silo]

Dunno how they fix it though warp unleashed is almost mandatory at this point haha

[fresh sky]

honestly it still feels pretty good, so i'm not complaining really. i like how easy it is to keep everything lit up

[shadow wigeon]

When you see how much damage it can do with 4 stacks + slaughter, I can see why they are in a tricky spot. Because 10 stacks w/ +power would jus evaporate a room.

[fresh sky]

@shadow wigeon ah that's true 4 stacks is meh, but doubled power it could be pretty good

[shadow wigeon]

I prefer it to Battery at this point. It's competitive, and it's a bit more fun.

[fresh sky]

what's the range on wildfire?

like how far does it jump?

[shadow wigeon]

Not sure actually. I beleive I have seen a Rumbler shot scatter targets far enough away that it could not jump.

[fresh sky]

i might need to play around in the psykarium or whatever that thing is called

[ornate hamlet]

Psykonautium

[shadow wigeon]

The main trick is to not sweat applying too many stacks. Once you're at 4+ on enough mobs, switch to sword and go... do somthing else. Kill elites, read a book.

But if you find yourself being a fire turret, then you may as well go back to Battery build

[fresh sky]

yeah i see what you mean

[shadow wigeon]

And that's also why I went Aura instead of Communion

Wildfire makes it easier to get more targets with burn, which is slightly better for getting warp charges from AB, which makes Communion not absolutely necessary.

[fresh sky]

yeah i can see that. i use it on a lot of builds just to give me a little leeway to keep stacks up

[shadow wigeon]

It is definitely not the optimal build, though. It's different.

[olive ember]

Is mmmiles advocating for wildfire again

[fresh sky]

basically a lazy build so i don't have to worry much about popping heads except when things are out of range, or i've got a couple of crushers in front

[shadow wigeon]

Always bro

[olive ember]

Which the majority of people think is a meme pick

Oh boy

[stable silo]

Lol i gave the meta already

But let the man dreamwildfire is fun

Maybe they will buff it and i can be a ww wildfire boy agaib

[fresh sky]

haha you guys gave me a ton to try!

[stable silo]

Hes right about it being fun warp battery is just pure dmg

[shadow wigeon]

Folks get too stuck in the meta to try different things.

[stable silo]

But in damn i always go warp bat

[fresh sky]

haha i've tried some really stupid builds where i really wanted to make a non purg flame build with wrack, wildfire, AB and sword with the burn on crit but it just seems faster to chop chop with the sword slaughterer damage or blow things up with trauma

[shadow wigeon]

In the turbo flame / Aura build Wrack is "ok", but WU is just more consistently useful.

[fresh sky]

yeah

i also tried making trauma add fire on crit

[shadow wigeon]

You have to work too hard to get really good value out of Wrack

[fresh sky]

and it works, but none of them are as good as warp flurry and warp nexus/harnessing the warp

[shadow wigeon]

I spent a lot of time making Meteor Staff work, but it was just a hassle in the end

[fresh sky]

i tried making both sword and my trauma fire based on crit together too lol

fun but not super effective

i guess i also didn't know slaughterer would buff the flames, so that was probably helping when i went slaughter sword + trauma fire crit

instead of fire on both

[fresh sky]

yeah lots of work, kind of fun, but not super great when shit hits the fan

[shadow wigeon]

For maximum meme I bring this out of the basement sometimes...

It's pretty sad, though.

[fresh sky]

haha good stuff! i tried

i also tried it with the crit on special kill blessing with blazing lol

but it'd usually kill stuff and not light it on fire

which made it sort of pointless

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah Shred is better, but without Slaughter it's just not that great.

I did get a warp charge once, attack someone with that.

I saw it

[fresh sky]

yeah giving up slaughterer anywhere it's available seems to usually kind of be like self nerfing haha

[shadow wigeon]

Problem is once you have Slaughter stacks, you're killing all the small stuff in one hit anyway, so you're not applyin fire and blah blah blah

back to square one

[fresh sky]

yeah exactly

hard to argue with killing too fast to light it on fire though

[stable silo]

The issue is raw killing boosts that are more interesting tend to beat out the more interesting options

Thats why slaught is the best or head or deci

[hexed ether]

whch would you guys go for im thinking of replacing the blazing with a better flurry once i find it but not sure if brittleness 4 is betther then the triple 80% modifer

[stable silo]

Right staff imo

U got all stats u want at 80

[hexed ether]

ye was thinking that aswell

[stable silo]

Dmg charge and blast is important on trauma just replace blazing with flurry

The 69 charge and 71 dmg on left kinda scuffs it

Quell is a good dump stat

[shadow wigeon]

Personally prefer the left. Crits on Trauma RMB are 15% bonus

So Harness is a very small damage buff. It only really buffs LMB.

[stable silo]

U just dont like metas lop

[shadow wigeon]

Realistically both are good. Just lose the +crit

[shadow wigeon]

I mean, the Trauma meta is Flurry/Rending, not Harness.

Harness is pretty useless on Trauma

[stable silo]

Ooh the perk i didnt even look at it

Locked though but the right staff is superior stat wise by far

[hexed ether]

ye staff had flurry 2 b4 but since it rolled with harness i wanted to try it with blazing was pretty underwhelming

tried it in 5 damnation runs

[shadow wigeon]

Charge rate difference is about .15 seconds. I would not say "by far", it's a small difference.

Blessings and perks make a much bigger difference than a few points in stats.

for damage, I don't know Trauma BPS so I have no comment

[shadow wigeon]

There is a specific way to play fire trauma but it will still be underwhelming even if you push it.

[stable silo]

dam u melkor temping me with small changes

[void mural]

Both good, just depends on if you like deflector, or swap it out for unstable and go for high peril build

[shadow wigeon]

Unyielding is less good, and you can swap deflecor onto the right one if you want that build.

Warp res is a neat trick, but dont know if its worth giving up the perks.

[heady garnet]

which one of these should i upgrade?

current staff got kind bricked i think with the blessing

[fierce sinew]

the one on the right is better in the two places that matter

[heady garnet]

ty 🙂

[gilded viper]

[idle aurora]

OOOOOF

Pray that the second perk and bless are good, they can save it

[heady garnet]

deadass

mommy hates me 😭

[shadow wigeon]

it has been pointed out by wiser men than me, that if you are going to go to orange on hope, then swapping your first blessing for terrifying barrage (the blessing you (probably) least want to hit), will increase the chances of hitting one you want.

[hollow dove]

Combat blade with Uncanny Strike + Executor?

Solid?

[hollow current]

oh my god im gonna brain burst. Deflector IV, unstable power IV and Charmed reload IV all from melks today.

[visual cape]

ey, got a question
is unstable Power actually good for a force sword?
I've heard someone say it was somewhere, but it just says up to 5% power scaling with peril

[hollow current]

it stacks 4-5x iirc. So it's pretty alright. I'd take Slaughterer over it ez but it's not a bad second blessing.

[visual cape]

ok

already got my near-perfect obscurus, so won;t replace that, then

thanks

[austere estuary]

melk not updating, maybe patch incoming? or is he working for you all?

[hollow current]

just need to give it a second probably

[pearl lion]

oooh Psyker Powercycler just dropped

[long wharf]

no it's not

surge isn't that good

[pearl lion]

Its a t4 exclusive perk

One of the very few

[shadow wigeon]

I would not buy that, FWIW

[void arch]

Only effects left click I’ve heard

[hollow current]

pick it up if you have a lot of melkies to spare, but yeah not that great.

[shadow wigeon]

No, it affects RMB as well

It's still not great, unfortunately

[void arch]

Charge rate L

[hollow current]

doesn't work on Trauma's secondary. sadge

charge rate on void doesn't really matter. it's between 1.6 and 1.9

[void mural]

I think I'm finally properly using deimos, and it's fun!

headshoting through a whole horde, and 1 tapping muties!

[forest coral]

deimos club

[fresh steeple]

finallllly after so much time

found rank 4 Unstable Power

[cyan notch]

[shadow wigeon]

That is quite a chonker

[fresh steeple]

I felt so dirty after getting level 4 that I logged off. It's unethical to slay Chaos Cultists thatfilthily, even if they're Nurglites

[hollow dove]

Damn lads.

I know it doesn't make a lot of sense

But combat blade + laspistol is so GD fun

[prisma condor]

[vestal raven]

INSANE

[fresh steeple]

shame about the perks. Good numbers elsewhere though

[tight saddle]

Are there any specific combos for the Deimos and Illisi?

[spice veldt]

at least on the illisi, I'd say there aren't really any besides spamming the 1st heavy with either QQ or special attacks

[tight saddle]

good to know, ty

[prisma condor]

Does this work with charging staves?

nwm, the blast radius is bad

[fierce sinew]

blast radius doesn't matter, run and gun is worse than available alternatives independently of that anyway

[prisma condor]

Then I'll leave it like this until flurry appears

[fresh steeple]

Deimos doesn't really have a combo, per se. Just important to know that the second Heavy is the big-ticket damage dealer, so you want to set it up with Light->Heavy combos for big targets. It also has a weaker first Heavy than its Light, so don't just spam Heavies for no reason

[prisma condor]

Good enough

[fresh steeple]

but if you use the charge effect, the charged Heavy is stronger than the charged Light and is more forgiving in terms of aiming than the second Heavy

so if you can't set up the second Heavy due to environmental circumstances/mob swarms, charged Heavy is almost as potent, and moreso on anything heavily armored

[fallow dawn]

is this worth ?

i mean the blessing

[long wharf]

if you don't want the sword, grab the blessing

[fallow dawn]

i do have this already

[long wharf]

I'd get it just to get Blazing Spirit 4

[fallow dawn]

i am short 200 melk coins

[long wharf]

sad face

[stable silo]

The dreams of a meme firesword dead before they even begin 😦

[fallow dawn]

just 2 more missions

[stable silo]

To bad u slap blazing 4 on that sword u got yourself a fire sword haha

The one u have now it has locked shred and locked crit chance u pretty much already have a fire sword

Better on illis but eh what can u do its all meme anyway

[fallow dawn]

done

[near wyvern]

Now enjoy pretty occasional visual with very little benefit

[fallow dawn]

151dmg per tick

amazing choice for an weapon

how is this deal less dmg then a 9 stacks of flames ?

[near wyvern]

What do you mean

[fallow dawn]

i mean the recon with flames 4 deal around 190

9 stacks max

[near wyvern]

Burning does around 60% more damage per tick and stack than soulblaze

[fallow dawn]

but this deal 151 with 12

[near wyvern]

It's different dot

[fallow dawn]

welp now wait for buffs

[dusk pagoda]

How do people feel about the Illisi Force Sword? I loved it when I used it. It felt so powerful, but I have such a hard time justifying its use when the Deimos is sitting right there with all the huge AOE staves

Is there a solid way to build a Psyker who uses an Illisi?

[obtuse moth]

illisi is horde clear, its a fantastic weapon

you can also spam empowered strikes when you need

its also the best one for farming peril

[dusk pagoda]

I got the frenzied killer 3 penance randomly on Malice at like level 15 with an Illisi. It's disgusting.

[near wyvern]

Yes:

• surge
• optional with void
• gunker

[fallow dawn]

illisi is good but i like occasionally kill mutants with 1 swing using deimos

[dusk pagoda]

I assume you'd use the Surge to stun melee elites before you take them down with empowered heavies?

And use Void as a single target nuke?

[near wyvern]

Yes you can one shot a bulwark by surge zapping them open and then going special heavy with illisi on the head

[dusk pagoda]

Oooo, nice! I'll have to do a little research and try that out! Thank you!

What blessings would you recommend? Slaughterer + Deflector on the sword I assume?

[near wyvern]

Also Slaugherer Illisi is just a blender on a horde. If you see an elite, dodge back, special up and take a golf swing. If it ain't dead repeat once and it will be.

[dusk pagoda]

Glorious

Is Kinetic Flayer (10% chance to BB a target on attack) a good way to build up and maintain warp charges with that kind of build? I've been using Psychic Communion instead lately (4% chance on your/ally's kill to gain a warp charge)

[near wyvern]

If you want to go aggressive with your melee play yeah Slaugherer Deflector is the best choice. If you are confident with your dodging skills you can go Slaugherer Unstable Power (better with low warp resist) or Slaugherer Executor. In any case you should take Warp Unleashed and Kinetic Deflection for the feats.

Illisi doesn't get resets when sprinting with the heavy light combo so you can use your stamina to just dash around while swinging. Heavy heavy is the best DPS both single and multi target but you need to have your dodge game on point to keep that up. Heavy light is safer.

[dusk pagoda]

I used a lot of heavy heavy when I was using the Illisi before, but I wasn't aware of the typical swing patterns yet -- I'll try out heavy light versus heavy heavy and see how I like it. I did a lot of light spam against pox hordes too, but that's probably because I'm used to playing with the combat axe and the bully butcher, haha

[near wyvern]

If you wanna go all on on it take communion with battery and quicken. It's only 3 BB to top the battery up and the communion procs also grant 2 stacks so during a horde you don't need to care about the stack count.

Kinetic Flayer is more stable than communion but works slower and requires you to constantly find enemies. With Quicken it can work but with quicken it's piss easy to manage a battery even without communion and KF.

[dusk pagoda]

So Warp Absorption/Quietitude (personal preference I assume?) + Warp Unleashed + Communion + Kinetic Deflection + Battery + Quicken would be a solid build -- got it. I'm going to try this out. Thanks for the help 🙂

[near wyvern]

Warp absorption if you gonna go all in melee but essence harvest is safer. Quietitude is the best choice if you have a surge you can quell with. I usually go essence harvest on my gunker.

The problem with warp absoption is that you only really gain toughness when you are in melee combat, and melee combat with Illisi is trivial, it's the ranged that you need to worry about and warp absoption will not help you at all in fighting ranged.

My gunker build is the one build. 111111 for the feats. For surge you just change the first feat to 3 (quietitude).

[dusk pagoda]

Thanks for the advice!

[near wyvern]

Also warp absorption only works on illisi special attacks and while that has a huge burst damage it's less DPS than just heavy spam.

[crude cape]

what counts as "infested enemies"

[near wyvern]

You will anyways get toughness back on melee kills

[crude cape]

and what perks do you want on illy?

[near wyvern]

Pox walkers, pox bursters and pox hounds. Walkers and dogs have extra explosion resistance while Bursters take 30 times more damage from explosions.

[crude cape]

pox walkers are the more zombie looking basic zombies?

[near wyvern]

If it has Slaugherer it doesn't really matter, it will kill anyway. Perhaps +maniac to get rid of mutants easier. For the other perk either +flak or +unyielding.

If you wanna go all blender mode +unarmoured and +infested works as well.

[crude cape]

the more deformed ones

[dusk pagoda]

I would expect like +Flak +Maniacs for dealing with ragers and one shotting flak shooters more easily, right?

And dealing with maulers a little more easily

[near wyvern]

Yes, they have 300 health and apply corruption on HP damage. The groaners have 200 HP and don't apply corruption.

[crude cape]

this is my best one right now, i could upgrade to legend and put slaughterer on it, change carapce dmg to maniac or flak

not like...amazing or bis

but worth a little investment just to have for now?

[near wyvern]

It will do for now if you get a nice blessing on the second slot and swap out uncanny strike. Illisi is ridiculously good even with shit stats as long as you have Slaugherer on it.

[crude cape]

ohhh i had no idea thats how it worked. I remember like month 1 no one knew and people theorized it was like a dmg threshhold before corruption applied. good to know

[near wyvern]

Ideally you want warp resist to be your dump stat

[stable silo]

pygex dont go quicken go ascendant blaze

[crude cape]

I heard if you dont run deflector, uncanny strike is one of the decent perks

[stable silo]

i assume as gunker your running shredder with pining/blaze

[crude cape]

so if i rolled a bad one, was gonna just rock uncanny + slaughter

[near wyvern]

Check your damage table. Only carapace damage benefits from uncanny strikes, so that would be mauler head or a crusher. Not that many enemies that benefit from it... You can just special heavy the mauler body and BB crushers. In a pinch remember to use the force sword push first to make them sit on their ass.

[near wyvern]

Not with melee focused build. With melee focused build you want to use MG IV or MG Ia infantry Lasguns. With +10% from warp unleashed and 6 stacks in battery you can make the MG Ia hit as hard as a stock XII and even MG IV will kill dreg stalkers and scab riflemen in one head hit, making only scab stalkers to require to hits. But the fire rate and ammo economy on MG IV is great and it has extremely good weapon swap speed, which you will be doing a lot.

With shredder build you want to run Ascendant Blaze and Kinetic Flayer

[stable silo]

interesting i only run my shredder as gunker cause it just reks stuff and i have no ammo issues as long as theres a vet since i just swap to it for elites only

or if its a big boi situation with ult + power boosts

[near wyvern]

Shredder is pretty ammo hungry in damnation+ if you use it to eat hordes

[stable silo]

hmm true i usually run purge in high int dam

[near wyvern]

But we were talking about melee focused gunker here. If you want as high DPS as you can, you currently can't go higher than with PA KF AB shredder cycler.

[stable silo]

but i dont use it to eat hordes unless ult anyway and works well in norm damn anyway though people arent as a big a fan when they see the gunker ha

[near wyvern]

Mostly because pinning fire and blaze away are so freaking strong.

[dusk pagoda]

This is what I just crafted up @near wyvern -- I think I'm pretty happy with it

[near wyvern]

Yeah that will do, I would swap the +unarmoured to +infested now, when you get a better Slaugherer on it then switch it to +maniac.

[dusk pagoda]

Hadron decided to bless me thoroughly

[dusk pagoda]

Will do!

Is Warp Flurry still bugged on Surge Staff?

[near wyvern]

No it works now on all staves

[dusk pagoda]

Awesome. Is Harnessing the Warp good to keep here, or should I swap it for something like Terrifying Barrage?

[vestal raven]

keep

always need that on surge staff

[dusk pagoda]

Man, I rolled a really good staff then, lol

[spice veldt]

wouldn't say you need it but it's one of the better options

[dusk pagoda]

Just need to figure out what perks I want and it's golden

[crude cape]

what blessings are best on trauma again, is this any good? i know not t4 but i take what i can get sometimes and can replace one

[spice veldt]

flurry, rending, or focused are my preferences

harnessing the warp + blazing apparently works as well

I also like +unarmoured (for one-shotting 450hp dreg bruisers without relying on warp charges/warp unleashed too much) and +flak (for killing gunners/shotgunners a bit more easily)

[crude cape]

whats the trauma specific blessing

was told thats good

[spice veldt]

rending shockwave?

[crude cape]

ok ya thats what you meant by rending

[spice veldt]

applies brittleness to all enemies tagged by the explosion

[crude cape]

i just dont know all the blessings by heart

tbh

[spice veldt]

really only ever going to be useful against crushers

smh

simply play this game religiously

[crude cape]

so full names help me lol

[spice veldt]

I'd say that rending shockwave is pretty situational, but crushers do happen to be very dangerous in groups

[crude cape]

someone explained it to me before

but im still confused

what exactly is brittleness

like...armor shred?

makes everyone do more dmg?

[spice veldt]

somewhat

if an attack already deals 100% damage to an armour type, it'll do nothing

[hoary badge]

Stock trauma doesn't really have too many problems with crusher hordes

[spice veldt]

more-or-less for comps where you have a teammates with a flamethrower (purg/flamer)

happens often enough for me to bring it

and while crusher groups aren't going to kill you as long as you've got a trauma staff, it's still going to chip away at them veeery slowly given how shit its DPS is

I'd probably replace it with flurry on my staff if it was the unlocked slot

[obtuse moth]

you arent going to kill 7 crushers very fast with a trauma staff

debuffing them helps the group kill them much much faster

[grand arrow]

What options do Psykers have against Monstrosities?

In order of effectiveness I suppose

[latent stirrup]

67 dmg on trauma might be a bit low for damnation

You should test it in the meatgrinder to make sure that your staff 1 shots trashmobs at full charge with warpcharges, and does not knock them around the room with some hp left.

[vernal frost]

Cerebral lacerations and/or just bb'ing the damn thing is probably the best option, you can also keep up the soulblaze stacks and maybe as a last resort use your force sword special

[latent stirrup]

what blade says
you can test your boss damage in the meatgrinder
regular monstrositiers count as "unyielding"
bulwark and reaper have same health type. just make sure to hit them in an unarmored spot when testing a weapon that hits a specific spot

[spice veldt]

at least 60% damage is fine; the only non-elites/specials you don't one-shot with 60% damage (360 dmg) are poxwalkers (300 hp, 75% dmg to infested), scab bruisers (400 hp flak), and dreg bruisers (450 hp unarmoured)

I would only use the illisi special on monstrosities since the deimos/obscurus special doesn't really do a remarkable amount of damage

beat the plogryn's ass with melee or sit behind and BB them (melee being the faster option unless there's a melee that does shit unyielding damage)

though I haven't tested the DPS of force sword melee compared to BB vs plogryn since WU was changed to affect all damage

[latent stirrup]

this still requires perks/feats. otherwise you do not 1 shot a few others either

[spice veldt]

ah right, dreg stalkers (400 hp)

[latent stirrup]

so what ever trauma staff you use, just make sure you test with your feats/perks and warpcharges

[spice veldt]

sure, but the idea is the fact that you can supplement it with perks

+unarmoured and +flak covers dreg/scab bruisers and dreg stalkers

and that's assuming no warp charges or warp unleashed

[digital loom]

i'm liking wrack and ruin on high intensity

[obtuse moth]

combat axe/force sword, flamer staff, trauma staff, brain bursts, guns

[idle bay]

I played my Ogryn yesterday after not playing him for 2 months.... slightly tweaked his weapons and... damn. Ogryn still do have it easy compared to siblings, game forgives you for doing really stupid stuff....

[digital loom]

yes because they have more hp currency to spend

[idle bay]

like 500 hp easily and insane toughness regen

[digital loom]

depends on what ai director is throwing at you

[idle bay]

Bull butcher - spam lmb to win, and Riper Gun MK V - lets delete evryting and even that sniper 150m away

[quasi pier]

So I've been told, purgatus slightly edges out pure brainburst in dps even with kinetic barrage, but some combination of maintaining max soulblaze stacks and using kb quick bb's is probably the fastest. Bonus points for cerebral lacerations, but probably not worth it overall vs the other feats in that row

Trauma staff does decent damage to them as well, maybe better than bb

[digital loom]

trauma staff is tagged as explosive daaamage so it works well on slugs and pox bursters

for plague ogryn i just poke them in head with deimos when they're close and bb when not close

kinetic deflection helps as well

[quasi pier]

For that matter any question of how do I do the most damage to X, the answer is probably poke it with deimos lol

[digital loom]

on paper yes but combat situation will likely deny optimal approach

[obtuse moth]

afaik single target combat axe does significantly more damage to monstrosities than purge staff, i'd assume deimos would be similar

[cyan notch]

yes melee does more

but monsters are rarely alone and will pull ambients etc

[obtuse moth]

you can keep even the slime boss mostly still if you follow them and keep triggering tail swipe. plague ogyrn is really easy to keep still

[cyan notch]

purg can do passable damage while ccing adds too

[grand arrow]

i was wondering what staff would do the best against the monstrosities

[obtuse moth]

purge and trauma are much better than surge and void against bosses imo

[grand arrow]

but it seems like the only legitimate options in that regard are to snipe heads/pus sacs or purgatus

what are the hopes we can get a boss dps staff in the future

[cyan notch]

at range/cant melee you just stack soulblaze with purg then bb

if u can melee use melee

[grand arrow]

i see

but nothing even remotely thunder hammer-tier even exists in the game for removing monsters outside of, well, the thunder hammer itself

[obtuse moth]

staff boss dps is fine imo

esp if you roll unyielding

[grand arrow]

i actually think surge spam would be useful on assassinations

[cyan notch]

sucks

[grand arrow]

for damage proper, sure

[cyan notch]

void and surge do barely anything might as well just bb

[grand arrow]

tying up adds makes it easier for teammates to kill it

[cyan notch]

surge only stuns 5 enemies though

and there are a lot more adds than that in assassination missions

[idle bay]

Who in the sane mind using staffs during the assasination boss fight? Pull out Fs and poke the boss untill it's dead, also tank the boss if it focused on you. Only staff that makes sense to use during DoubleAss bossfight - is Purgatus to keep pesky zombies away.... or not - because some melee weapons greatly benefit from killing few of them and then doing extra damage to boss.

[cyan notch]

i always use purg in assassinations

3 people killing boss = ez clap

[grand arrow]

god i hate using purg

i wish i wasnt such a brainlet

what i would give for alternate version of the purgatus with a warp bolt M1 instead of the stupid fart attack

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-jerry-milk-gif-15153541

[idle bay]

It will actually make sense to have some kind of Rending blessing on Purgatus - like it melts armor or something - to make it good vs Crushers

maybe it will get one one day 🙂

[grand arrow]

i expect the next staff is going to be a cryo-themed one

[idle bay]

I want BB staff. That improves BB in some interesting way.

[grand arrow]

another idea i had was to make a laspistol + staff duel wield

kinda like the shield. M1 shoots with the pistol and M2 charges the ability

[idle bay]

Staff with attached Shotgun or attached Greande Launcher

[grand arrow]

wtf

[fluid cove]

Cryo themed staff could be a Space Wolves inspired staff, just recycle the Deep wood staff from Vermintide 2 and paint it blue. Make the vortex cc effect deal damage over time and the primary fire a finesse focused burst of ice shards.

[restive slate]

Freezing enemies in place would be so fun

There could be a Brittleness blessing for Frozen enemies too

[karmic delta]

I think if you're trying to staff the Assassination Boss. You're already doing something wrong. Boss's shield takes more damage if you melee it.

[river sand]

assa bosses should awlays be meleed. beast of nurgle can be engaged with purg and trauma, purg for obvious reasons, trauma for hitting it twice. Pogryn can be BB'ed while KB is active, then meleed

[fluid cove]

I mostly play with three zealots who all like to run thammer, I put up cerebral lacerations and watch as everything gets squished.

[steel egret]

3 veteran with guns hunkering on elevator door disagree

[primal plume]

I use my staff to clear trash and create space

[drowsy slate]

What’s wrong with the elevator? IMHO I think the space in front of the elevator is the best spot To fight the boss

But iam free to get enlightened that iam wrong 😂

[steel egret]

Due lack of communication or general willingness

If you stay by elevator odds that someone goes to boss are very high

Also boss doesnt instantly teleport over there

[left geyser]

Whats the meta melee weapon for us

Other than a power sword

Like, are the dueling swords any good?

[cobalt veldt]

assume you mean force sword and not power sword ?

[left geyser]

Ye mb

Very new to the Psyker

(Any suggestions on Feat order too would be appreciated)

[wet belfry]

3-1-1-2-1-3

[shadow quail]

Best blessings for void? Transfer and flurry?

[left geyser]

Uhh

I don't know what any of that means

at least specifically

[left geyser]

I got this tho

[tired estuary]

dueling swords aren't great, illisi force sword is busted good esp once you get the right blessings

but you don't unlock it til about lvl20ish I think

[cyan notch]

u get everything at level 15

[left geyser]

I've just swapped from Vet, I'm so sick of power/force swords XD

[tired estuary]

antax (and now rashad) are still solid, taxe are fine

[left geyser]

Taxe?

[tired estuary]

and yeah dueling swords aren't great but they aren't like, ogryn shield bad just v much worse compared to deimos/illisi force sword

tactical axes, the lighter/faster ones with better dodge and crit chance

[left geyser]

Ahh roger

Thanks for the help

[tired estuary]

mhm

[paper harbor]

i met him recently not friendly in morning star he discuss about ogyrn is bad just made the morningstar people upset by conflict

calling each other ignorance

hes like ogyrn-hater

Eyesea

same guy you met him on damnation

as i met him on morningstar seeing vile chat, someone pointing him eyesea being racist to orgyn? he said something grim corrupt unfair for zealot, vet, psyker, while ogyrn like big guy doeesn't feel hurt much, that's what eyesea said.

[idle bay]

He forgot that anyone who upsets Ogryns is risking becoming extra-rations they like so much

And it will be considered as natural cause of death.

[paper harbor]

me just messing him despite he debate about ogyrn

i came back morningstar see people get upset, also classic fatshark insulting

i stay there while he's gone mission

[muted obsidian]

Who is this heretic saying bad things of ogrrrrynns?

[tired estuary]

Idk some vet player, the name is vaguely familiar

[paper harbor]

Eyesea

that guy what i saw him on morningstar

[muted obsidian]

I'll crush his skull and use it as upgrage on my gg.

[paper harbor]

you can find him idk zazy said he met him on damnation occasionally

he's just awful person what i said not to him, he repsonse 'stfu'

i knew hes the diesel

[atomic idol]

I was just told that for Pick And Mix, you can kill five of the same type of enemy and get it. Is that right?

[muted obsidian]

Any specialist/elite will do

[atomic idol]

Wtf. That is just the inverse of the description

[muted obsidian]

I got with 3 ragers and 2 snipers on that sewer start assasination mission

Also got my 6 ogryns bullrush penance by just bullrushing 4 crushers.

[atomic idol]

Wait, what? Before or after the change from 4 to 6?

[muted obsidian]

A few patches ago

Penance still said 6 ogryns when I got it

[atomic idol]

Wtf. Makes no sense, completely faulty information

[muted obsidian]

Theres so much bs on the instructions. Like the stun grenade kills on zealot. You don't have to kill anyone to get it.

Just throw stuns and let others kill em. Any kill done while the horde is stunned counts as your kill.

[atomic idol]

I noticed that, too. Grenaded while a team member was using flamer. Easy

[muted obsidian]

They also count towards that heretic killer penance which is nice.

[atomic idol]

I've been passing up opportunities to get Pick And Mix because it misrepresents how you actually get it. Miffed

[inland sand]

i keep playing with this Veteran called Russel

i always say hi

he never says hi back

why u no say hi Russel 😦

[honest drift]

i had to suffer, everyone else has to aswell 😠

[cyan notch]

more usable with bb

[leaden thunder]

[summer prairie]

soon...

[leaden thunder]

anything else you notice?

[lucid terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-plankton-gif-26146088

[heady garnet]

@summer prairie where can I see these notes?

[lucid terrace]

Finally

[spice veldt]

:oo

[lucid terrace]

The time is soon coming

Force greatsword

[bold flint]

yippee

[leaden thunder]

where did you dig to find that ? I want to see if I can find anything else

[summer prairie]

it's in \content\characters\player\human\first_person\animations if you extract it

[heady garnet]

I meant these thingys

[summer prairie]

Not seeing other new stuff in there

[spice veldt]

in the #📢news-bulletin channel

[heady garnet]

I'm new so I don't know how the patch notes work 😦

Ohhhh ty

[leaden thunder]

[heady garnet]

Ty

[leaden thunder]

well at least the two handed fs is there

[spice veldt]

would be eyebrow raising to get another force melee before another force staff

but 2H WEAPON BABYYYY

[leaden thunder]

hopefully we get all the old datamined weapons soon

I want my goddamn two handed chaxe

[bold flint]

is there a longlas

[leaden thunder]

that was one of them iirc

it was like 6 off the top of my head

two handed force and power sword and chaxe, long las, melta, some sorta of small mace

[summer prairie]

chaos spawn behavior tree was updated

probably getting a toxic gas mutator soon as some stuff related to that was added

[idle aurora]

bruh, people cry about weapon nerfs, now this is bs. Apart from last one, that i agree with

[rich rose]

Now my game is crashing non-stop, GREAT grrrrrr

[ember hornet]

yall see those sick eviscerator buffs

rev it up lasts a whole 3 seconds now instead of 2 seconds

kinda busted

[summer prairie]

some nurgle tougher enemies mutator was also tweaked a bit

[tropic pollen]

oh look the penance nerf retroactively gave me penance completion

[cyan notch]

why do people love 2h fs

[summer prairie]

some positive mutators coming probably, including cooldown reduction and enhanced grenades. A more "alive specials" modifier that seems like a slightly easier shocktroops

[leaden thunder]

when the bp calc gets updated it may have the two handed in it

it had the brunts pride ogryn club for a while before it got added

so it wouldn't suprise me if it showed up

[leaden thunder]

because two handed swords are cool

[cyan notch]

yea just like evis

[leaden thunder]

and the evis is cool

[cyan notch]

and look how many people use it

8

globally

[leaden thunder]

almost like they fucked it's numbers

rather then not making it cool

[summer prairie]

There's a new weapon buff called "taunted", probably the ogryn weapon blessing

[fluid vessel]

Time to intentionally suicide in a lobby to progress my penance lmao

[summer prairie]

warp nexus is warp nexus again

[leaden thunder]

good

that was a dumb name change

[supple skiff]

well guess Ill never be able to solo clutch a plauge orgyn for my penance lol

after this many hours, it likely wasn't going to happen either way

[fluid vessel]

Just gotta get a friend to do a private lobby with you

Probably safer to do Slab Shield Daemonhost

If your friend has a properly rolled slab shield they'll regen their stamina faster than the Daemonhost can strike

The only risk is getting third partied by spawns

[leaden thunder]

I mean they just have to plant

and it takes no stam

[fluid vessel]

A better setup if you can find -two- friends is a slab shield user, you, and some Veteran whose only job is to be a bodyguard and kill all enemies that aren't the DH

Should be fool-proof as long as you clear around the DH before triggering

[supple skiff]

sure Ill get it eventually

not a huge fan of the goggles either way

was hoping for more changes than just a warp absorb buff tho ngl

[dawn bluff]

finally i can let my psyker be bare body with a hood on

[summer prairie]

Umm ok bye https://streamable.com/n82m3z

[cyan notch]

do u have invis on

[fluid vessel]

I think the DH is hard coded to leave if you're the only player standing

So it doesn't wipe the team

[summer prairie]

Yeah that's probably it

so if you are alone and find a passive DH that will also happen

[cyan notch]

sounds unlikely

[summer prairie]

why, DH is doing this every time I spawn them even if I don't aggro

unless something isn't working properly in the grinder

I could spawn bots I guess

[safe crystal]

DH should kill up to 2 players, then leaves. Could be a psykhanium related thing again

[summer prairie]

the patch had DH changes

[cyan notch]

i mean it aint killing anything and just leaves

[safe crystal]

Hm, going through the list now myself,so

[obtuse moth]

afaik its not, it was coded to leave the amount of players standing during activation minus 2. thats what cause a lot of bugs causing it to kill more than 2 players if you res'd someone during the fight

[supple skiff]

dev note: we're doing a balance pass to buff the feats with lower pick rates

doesn't touch wildfire

[summer prairie]

plague ogryn has 40k hp in the grinder, the other two have 32k still (?)

[safe crystal]

Plogryn got a base hp boost, cant find anything related to DH other than the hp% increase

[obtuse moth]

tbf i think both wrack and ruin and widfire are more popular than warp absorption

[supple skiff]

they increased the multiplier to hp from difficulties on monstrosities

[fluid vessel]

I had it kill three people including me once when I accidentally ledge grabbed during it

We didn't wipe thankfully enough

[supple skiff]

could be the case, I thought with trauma being better and the illsi being a thing warp absorb would have been better, gave it a shot recently a quietude still blows it out of the water imo

with the illsi you can generate peril so fast and quell it down in cover that you have very low downtime

[undone badge]

ugh the suicide penance is still a thing

[safe crystal]

Isnt this the vet elite kill toughness regen thing?

Why'd it get buffed

[supple skiff]

guess it wasn't picked a lot?

[obtuse moth]

no, the elite kill one is 25+25% toughness, that one is headshot kill

errr

[safe crystal]

Ahh, makes sense

[obtuse moth]

sorry replied to the wrong thing

[supple skiff]

wait

[leaden thunder]

still probably worse then the elite kill one

[supple skiff]

thats the headshot one

[safe crystal]

Havent played in forever so didnt remember the numbers, thanks for correcting

Its still so much worse though

[supple skiff]

lol, thats the one I use on my vet

[wet belfry]

I hope we get a force sword with actual dedicated DOT damage.

[supple skiff]

I think its good with counterfire

[cyan notch]

relay station is fixed

[wet belfry]

Not having to relay on blessings to proc soulblaze.

[supple skiff]

if you want to play the anti shooter role

[obtuse moth]

since the elite kill toughness regen over time stacks they should fix it so psyker's regen over time also stacks

[safe crystal]

They should fix it so it doesnt stack

That thing is busted

[obtuse moth]

bring it down it 5-10%

[summer prairie]

dh only instantly goes away like that if you are the last player alive

[supple skiff]

oh shit the elite kill one stacks, no wonder its better

on a plain reading I opted for headshot

[obtuse moth]

its silly when you have 5 stacks on your bar, each one takes its own slot since they all have their own duration

[supple skiff]

have to try that out next time im playing my vet then

but yeah, our warp charge toughness option should stack

[safe crystal]

It lets me do stupid things like running into the open with a brauto, outgunning and outregening the entire area

[leaden thunder]

confirmed kill + unwavering is what makes vet broke

[safe crystal]

It should not stack

[supple skiff]

with some toughness trinks im sitting like 312 toughness on em

shit sounds super busted

[fresh steeple]

well, it turns out that in my ~200 missions as a Psyker, I never once killed even a single elite with Perils of the Warp. I was hoping it might retroactively apply the achieve (since I refused to get it deliberately in the past), but it seems I never even accidentally killed one

buff Perils explosion thx

[summer prairie]

add_resistance is HI, waves_of_specials is shocktroops

nurgle_blessing makes enemies take less damage I think

[obtuse moth]

damage sponge modifier?

[undone badge]

4 mutators on one mission sounds oof

[summer prairie]

There's also a nurgle blessing that makes enemies heal over time, could also be that

This is pretty spongy depending on your weapon

[spice veldt]

Unarmoured, infested, and maniac with straight up -50% damage against huh

doesn't sound too bad except for dreg ragers

well, 600 HP poxwalkers sound painful actually

[summer prairie]

sounds ridiculous with hi shocktroops

[supple skiff]

at a certian point you just can't kill shit fast enough

[summer prairie]

your special/elite breakpoints are mostly just gone

[supple skiff]

this sounds like that

[spice veldt]

wonder how ammo is gonna fare with that

[summer prairie]

purg will be much better than anything else

[granite dust]

Where can i find old cosmetics ?

because clearly not at penance list ...

[safe crystal]

Cant check it myself right now, but should be a new tab in the list

[granite dust]

i dont see any tab ...

[summer prairie]

This is the grenade enhancer, pointless for psykers. Less peril

[undone badge]

all the way at the bottom of the penance list

[summer prairie]

the cooldown modifier mutator cuts cooldowns by half

[granite dust]

thanks man - got it 🙂

xD xD xD

oh god - those half-n@ked runs will be epic xD

[faint vault]

Wait, how do you do that?

I see a lot of half-nekkid people running around, but I can't take off my clothes to join in the fun 😦

[near wyvern]

I am not sure if that is actually a debuff for psykers 😅

[viral inlet]

apparently it's something that not everyone has access too, but it's a broken cosmetic that seems to be randomly accessible to people

[faint vault]

I feel like such a sad panda.

Forced to be a prude.

[viral inlet]

yeah rip

[faint vault]

Anyone else lagging like crazy now? Stuttering all over the place.

[summer prairie]

A bunch of people reported that

[cyan notch]

no stutters for me

[faint vault]

OK, whew.

[late yew]

TOLERANCE BEGETS HERESY

[graceful eagle]

yeah, but first game only

[cold oasis]

for sure are shit i ain't runnin multiple missions with infinite stutter-freezes just to hope to play normally again

i mean, it's unplayable at the level of the Surge staff when they did the "FX" change

[viral inlet]

check in your user_settings if ray tracing got enabled after the patch

I'm reading stuff in the modding discord about it

[faint vault]

Yeah, I notice my rt-settings resetting to "custom" every time I log in, even though it should be off

[steel flame]

oh man cant wait to play the new update SURE SOULD BE NICE IF STEAM COULD DATA WRITE THE UPDATE PROPERLY

[summer prairie]

apparently custom can still mean that it is off

[viral inlet]

set it back to off, then change the file to Read Only

well, "set" - type "off" in its place

windows + r, type in "appdata" then enter
it will send you to the Appdata folder, from the go to AppData\Roaming\Fatshark\Darktide

[faint vault]

Which file? I remember doing this manually back at launch, but can't remember exactly how.

Thanks!

[viral inlet]

it'll be "user_settings.config"

there seem to be two "ray_tracing_quality =" settings, change both to "off"

[left basin]

new fashion siblings

[faint vault]

Thanks!

[gilded viper]

When the new update say "hey stop using kills and farm the warp kills"

Guns*

God I shoukd stop typing on phone

[undone badge]

a bit tilted at the suicide penance. gonna explode and kill a lone gunner then the goddamn vet ults with his bolter and kills it just before the explosion

ffs

[wanton sandal]

minor formatting error

fire this man

[hybrid solstice]

bro what does suppressing melee enemies even do

[still hearth]

Nothing

[orchid shadow]

Oooh, new prisoner gear.

[still hearth]

Groaners are the only melee enemies that can be suppressed.

[hybrid solstice]

does it actually do nothing

[still hearth]

The rest are immune.

[gilded viper]

[hybrid solstice]

what does suppressing them even do

[orchid shadow]

I get to go from Green nooby gear to beige! Woot!

[still hearth]

They cower

[gilded viper]

been living a dream the whole time

[still hearth]

And move back a bit

But their recovery time is like

0.4s

Or something

So the moment you stop shooting they go back to aggro

[hybrid solstice]

what the frickerino

[still hearth]

You can try it in psykarnum

And I never got Terrifying Barrage to do anything worthwhile myself

[hybrid solstice]

terrifying barrage should like

suppress in an AoE around a ranged kill

or something

to help suppress ranged enemies

[cyan notch]

ranged weapons already do that by default

[still hearth]

Terrifying Barrage should apply a fear effect

Not suppression

Literally scare anything for 2s

Then they're immune to fear for 5s or something

Then it'd actually be useful

[timber bolt]

Anyone have pics of the new cosmetics?

[autumn smelt]

THEY RUINED IT

[supple skiff]

NOOOOOOOO

[river sand]

i must confess i like the new sound

its smoother

[supple skiff]

those fuckers

the audio feedback from hitting a lined up horde at head level was pure dopamine

[faint vault]

At least or BB got more crunchy again. Sigh.

[river sand]

the penances needing so much bb sucks, i really dont like BB. still gotta BB 20 enemies and save myself from blowing up 17 times. then everything is done

[steel flame]

wow steam has been having all kinds of data write issues with darktides update. so much so that i had to ininstall and try a fresh install

[supple skiff]

I enjoy BB to a point which is boarderline detrimental to gameplay

[steel flame]

i dunno, keeping your BB alive is pretty central to the plot of the game

oops wrong game

[cyan notch]

really ez with quicken

[ornate hamlet]

A- so I am not the only one with the "No Shirt" option.

[wet belfry]

I find it funny that one of our penances is literary to tempt us to go over 100 peril yet again.

[steel flame]

the cycle never ends

[wet belfry]

The difference this time is that the ult abillty gets wasted.

[steel flame]

good thing flayer bb counts toward the penances

[steel flame]

whaaaaa nooooo, man you ever play a quicken build. shit ill do that like 20 times in a single match just with gameplay

[fierce sinew]

at least with this one you can just perils when you're going to shout anyway

[supple skiff]

ult really only gets wasted if your running the warp fire one imo

I regularly hold my hold to vent critical peril when I need to go full send, run kinetic barrange so I can follow up with a bunch of quick BB's to take out specialists and such

with quicken, well I assume the main draw there is double warp charge generation

[autumn smelt]

I'm pretty sure the popping will sound the same, it's the KATHOOM when the projectile hit a surface that was changed

[supple skiff]

well thats good news

[autumn smelt]

But that sounds was still awesome tho

It was a display of dominance and power over both your enemies and your team

It was your unparalleled wrath of your warp control taken auditory form
Audio cues be damned

You don't need to hear what's coming cuz they're about to explode anyway

[supple skiff]

^

[steel flame]

oh gods

playing without all qol mods is pure pain

[autumn smelt]

I wouldn't know
I've always played without them

[steel flame]

not having a sorted mission grid makes me wanna strangle somebody

[cyan notch]

get sorted mission grid mod

[steel flame]

the mod patch is crashing the game on startup for me

[cyan notch]

did u disable numeric ui and ui extension

those broke

[steel flame]

ugh. ill have to disable a shit load of stuff that relies on ui extension

ill do it after work

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah it's funny when you lose sorted mission grid how annoying the OG system is

[steel flame]

its so fucking terrible

[shadow wigeon]

it's still weird we can't just set difficulty and have a mission page for just damnation

[vernal frost]

Dw the only mod that relies on UI extension is scoreboard

The only two mods that are broken rn are un_extension(dependency of scoreboard) and numericui

[steel flame]

custom ui needs it to i believe

maybe im wrong

[vernal frost]

nope

I tested it

and it doesn't need it either

[cyan notch]

scoreboard still works fine

[vernal frost]

also I think grasmann has said something about ui_extension being depreciated altogether

[steel flame]

nah game still crashes on start without those mods

ill just have to deal with this later

[vernal frost]

that sure is strange

[olive ember]

Bruh another

keep your distance bs

[shadow wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/social-distancing-no-touching-dont-come-near-me-dont-touch-me-arrested-development-gif-16782350

[olive ember]

Keep Your Distance
On Heresy Threat or higher, complete 3 full Missions without being hit in melee by an Elite enemy.

blehhh

[vernal frost]

at least its not in a row..

thanks fatshark..

[olive ember]

bruh what the fuck is that

[shadow wigeon]

wait what haha

[vernal frost]

yeah they've made some penanced private onl

[shadow wigeon]

That is pretty funny for Bang, but akright

[steel flame]

but you cant start a private match without a buddy XP

[vernal frost]

which is a very strange way of fixing the problem

[steel flame]

HA

[shadow wigeon]

The private-game-solution is a total hatchet job

[vernal frost]

yeah they should've made solo available first smh

[shadow wigeon]

I feel bad for the people that bump into that

[vernal frost]

sure is sad yeah

[shadow wigeon]

Head to LFG and cower, plead, beg.

[cyan notch]

solo aint gonna help

[vernal frost]

for malleus? yeah true

but there are two more penances that are locked now iirc

the zealot speedrun one (literally why)

[shadow wigeon]

Zealot speed penance is locked

which is so sad

[steel flame]

fuck this

i got into the game and its fuckin stuttery as fuck

[shadow wigeon]

Like, I have seen how that one ruins games... but still... must be e better solution

[vernal frost]

dw

its the new shader caching

[steel flame]

just great

thanks fatshark

[vernal frost]

they also have said that they're going to make a patch for that

[cyan notch]

private match is an acceptable solution

forces u to brief people before hand

[shadow wigeon]

The average player will have no idea how to find people to group with

[vernal frost]

also does anyone else have the piss filter in the hub for a brief moment?

like ehhh

[steel flame]

guess i gotta wait for them to fix their shit

[olive ember]

tbf the average player isn't achievement hunting

[cyan notch]

they dont need to get those then

[vernal frost]

just play a bit and the stutter should be gone

[cyan notch]

since they made the new penances the new baseline ones

[shadow wigeon]

Penances are pretty basic carrot for folks, especially with cosmetics

[vernal frost]

thats just not nice tho

[cyan notch]

yea and u get the new ez stuff

the harder ones u gotta do more for it

[shadow wigeon]

if you want people to group rpivately, you;ve got to make it possible in game somehow

[cyan notch]

you can though

just send a friend invite and invite to game

[shadow wigeon]

That's not a social system. You need a functional LFG channel in game.

Asking your customers to randomly friend other people in the dark, or use discord, is stupid.

It's not 1999 anymore