yeah, I just get demotivated whenever the same set of maps just refresh back onto the mission board
#psyker-class
spice veldt
cyan notch
i think they should make it 4 damnation missions available at the very least
spice veldt
at least it's three maps per diff now, though I still feel like it likes to refresh the same map/modifier/secondary in a row sometimes
cyan notch
too often you can get cucked by garbage maps or conditions
guess ill just not play the game then
vestal raven
hopefully may fixes this, they said content drop right?
spice veldt
yeah if modifiers/secondaries didn't exist, then I'd be fine with three maps
but when two maps can get taken up by something like hunting grounds
forest coral
i have an issue when im forced to play the same conditions for like 3+ hours
olive ember
<@&735928989146939404>
cold geode
also gotta hit them in the face
and use the second heavy
so quick light > heavy follow up
uneven drift
is this any good? Don't have a surge staff and was about to build one
Yeah, pretty fine. Swap terrifying for warp flurry. And specialist for crit chance or mb some +armortype dmg.
late yew
thats pretty much it
I am not killing it...
cold geode
yea, i have the same issue on mine, not sure what the break point for dmg on the weapon and other stats is
late yew
So it is not "pretty much it"
cold geode
thats what everyone ive seen talk about it has said lol
tbh i figured i was just shit at hitting them in the face
uneven drift
remind me. how to get 1 hit breakpoint on mutant with deimos
Unstable power, i guess.
- stacks of warpcharges +warp unleashed.
fierce sinew
Depends on how good your rolls are. Mine needs 6 charges and 40% peril with the above
uneven drift
fuck.
cyan notch
who are you
late yew
who are you
Why?
cyan notch
just wondering
late yew
Naturally the best 
lucid olive
the 64% damage is only 5 less damage on a heavy than a 77/78% damage/first target one, could this be decent?
it came with slaught 3 too
orchid shadow
When shopping for a Deimos sword, am I still looking for a low Warp stat? Or is that only for the Illisi for charge fondling?
vestal raven
Depends on how you use it
but if in the same capacity then yes
With my deimos i use whatever its called for power based off peril
worthy moon
is it worth upgrading the one on the left?
or just take blessing from left and put it on right?
uneven drift
or just take blessing from left and put it on right?
I would just rip off warp flurry and put on right. Surge staff mostly fine as it is if you have good rolls, everything else nice additions.
late yew
why even upgrade it if right one is better
magic burrow
+One of the most insane HI i had in a while
what composition was this? How do you go through an entire game and not stagger a single enemy? I'm finding it hard to think of a Psyker build that doesn't even stagger anything accidentally.
spice veldt
yeah enemies staggered used to be recorded but not after when the modmaker remade the mod
maybe if you're using the recon lasguns you could avoid staggering enemies
obtuse moth
tbh i figured i was just shit at hitting them in the face
you have to hit the 3k threshold which involves getting some BB stacks or warp unleashed peril or a combination depending on the stats of your weapon and active blessings
late yew
gun psyker is lame
late yew
what composition was this? How do you go through an entire game and not stagger ...
I had trauma, so i actually had plenty of stagger
obtuse moth
thats kind of meh for 2.7k milk coins, its fine if you have pinning fire t4 and a lot of coins to spare
spice veldt
pinning fire is the main blessing that you want to go for
stats and perks are fine i suppose
magic burrow
I still dont get why people hate gunpsykers
obtuse moth
because theyre in a fight to the death for ammo
stone prawn
now need plasteel for flak
spice veldt
the option of using melee doesn't exist to people who don't like gunkers
obtuse moth
people can't stop themselves from pressing two when it comes to horde clear instead of pressing 1
magic burrow
my horde clear is press F and then tap fire and watch the horde disappear
ascendant blaze + pinning fire deletes everything
obtuse moth
so does slaughterer/unstable power/warp unleashed
magic burrow
I guess, but it's a lot messier. And melee doesn't get those shooters on the ledge behind cover.
spice veldt
melee is pretty clean
cold geode
magic burrow
ahh I see
cold geode
well see how badly hadron fucks it up for me
cyan notch
lets see it
late yew
bricked af
Replace executor with the one that gives guaranteed crit on special kill, at least you will have some funny weapon
cold geode
3x rubs and its at 100% exactly
yea
i have another one like that already with IV blazing spirit
cyan notch
both pretty horrible
ornate hamlet
For blessings, I mean.
cyan notch
same thing
hidden crystal
I still dont get why people hate gunpsykers
I don't get how people think that the four staves cover every possible psyker playstyle.
hidden crystal
For blessings, I mean.
I don't rate either of those blessings on the Obscurus, and... no, not really the Claw either.
hidden crystal
What about this gun?
Not terrible. I mostly run a Vraks VII Headhunter with Between the Eyes and Ghost. If you get the Blessings at a decent level and can chain the headshots, you become very resistant to ranged attacks. (Ghost preventing damage, BtE meaning you don't get suppressed and can continue to aim straight).
hidden crystal
I don't rate either of those blessings on the Obscurus, and... no, not really th...
As is, I don't like Precognition - I don't build around crits, they're too random to rely on (although Crucian Roulette was decent when it could stack to 40-50% crit chance), and +8% weakspot damage if you've just dodged is really rather underwhelming when a perk can provide a permanent +10%.
Superiority isn't terrible (it at least lasts a while), but Slaughterer (if you can get it) goes way higher and triggers on any kill type.
hidden crystal
Hand Cannon - again, I don't really rate anything based around Crits, you can't rely on them. Glory Hunter - I've not used it, but I don't think I'd like it much. It's not that much toughness it restores, and it only works on elites.
Even the best level of Glory Hunter on a revolver doesn't give a psyker back that much damage resistance - only really a light hit or two's worth of toughness.
If it gave you back a huge chunk of your toughness bar, that'd be a different matter, but it doesn't.
25 toughness is gone in the blink of an eye if a gunner shoots at you.
faint vault
How's the Rashad and Achlys now, compared to the Antax?
gilded radish
whats the best 2 blessings for a trauma staff?
obtuse moth
1.flurry and 2.shockwave (rending for teammates but no personal damage buff) or focused channeling (utility), or harnessing the warp (statistical ~5% dps increase)
cyan notch
1.flurry and 2.shockwave (rending for teammates but no personal damage buff) or ...
how do u get 5%
obtuse moth
its up to 20% additional crit chance, crits add 25% damage, 25% of 20% is 5%
cyan notch
i thought crits did 15% on trauma
obtuse moth
afaik all weapons do 25% crit damage unless they have a special modifier, usually finesse
cyan notch
nah staves are different
hidden crystal
Crits are, for the most part, pretty underwhelming.
The only things around crits that I rate either have to stack the chances really high, or add a special effect.
cyan notch
yea and so nexus will give at most 3% damage increase and probably 2% or lower in practice
pretty shit
hidden crystal
For the most parts, crits equate to "maybe it'll take one less hit to kill this guy".
And to be honest, in the flurry of a fight, unless it's a slow weapon, if I'm used to it taking two hits to finish a certain enemy type, I'm probably already putting the second shot into them by the time I notice they're dead.
(Or the third shot, or whatever).
spice veldt
just crunching the numbers, trauma deals 1.3x crit damage
purg (lmb/rmb direct hits) and void (rmb) deal 1.15x
lucid olive
surge (blessing) makes crit do damage like it does in other games rather than almost nothing
and then there's the low crit rates
hidden crystal
surge (blessing) makes crit do damage like it does in other games rather than al...
Yeah, that's one of the genuinely useful crit blessings.
Two shots is a meaningful boost, 25% is not.
spice veldt
25% is meaningful if it helps you reach breakpoints, though I still dislike the chance aspect of it
on the trauma, the only non-elite/special that you won't one-shot is probably just going to be dreg bruisers (450 hp)
hidden crystal
Well, that's all it really does; slightly randomise the breakpoints.
obtuse moth
just crunching the numbers, trauma deals 1.3x crit damage
purg (lmb/rmb direct h...
testing on trauma i got much more from left clicks ~1.28 (on unarmored, significantly more on armored) than right clicks but right clicks gave me around ~1.15 on crushers
hidden crystal
Because you can't plan for a crit, and don't know when it's happening, you have to assume it's not.
cyan notch
just crunching the numbers, trauma deals 1.3x crit damage
purg (lmb/rmb direct h...
u sure bout this?
im getting 15% and stat sheet says 15% too
spice veldt
not really, since I'm looking at the calc numbers
summer prairie
the calc says 15% too
obtuse moth
@hidden crystal i can assume its happening if i have a high enough chance and roll fast enough, its just not great for direct damage single hits
spice veldt
oops
I entered the numbers wrong
OH it's because i got names mixed up
it's the void RMB that deals 1.3x, not trauma
I suppose there is the cast time to check if your cast one-shot enemies or not
hidden crystal
<@377647770950959108> i can assume its happening if i have a high enough chance ...
If you're just spraying into a horde, I guess, but for anything actually aimed, less so.
austere estuary
thankfully I have bloodthirsty at least already
but I doubt I'll have thetime to get more than one of these
obtuse moth
If you're just spraying into a horde, I guess, but for anything actually aimed, ...
eh? thats the entire basis of recon infernus--even if its not a strong build anymore
austere estuary
I know right
if I didn't have other responsibilities I would
prob can only afford one though even if I did all contracts for this week today
would be tempting to pick up trauma surge for the hopium of if it ever works properly
spice veldt
blazing spirit + warp nexus does work from what I've been hearing on this discord
hidden crystal
eh? thats the entire basis of recon infernus--even if its not a strong build any...
Infernus is a different matter; that's something that boosts a crit a lot beyond its base effects.
spice veldt
but that does require another blessing to make the crit blessing worthwhile
anything that requires me to give up focused channeling is too much
austere estuary
guess shred would be the equivalent on sword for blazing combo
obtuse moth
blazing spirit isnt hard to get since its only t3
hidden crystal
Mind you, I don't often take the Recon as a psyker; it's ammo-hungry.
spice veldt
it's not the difficulty of acquisition
obtuse moth
blazing spirit is useless on swords since if you crit its dead
spice veldt
it's the opportunity cost of giving up the choice of another blessing
austere estuary
blazing 4 seems pretty good though at 4 stacks per crit if shred is up at 25, 5 base and 5 perk
hidden crystal
And people are usually grumpy enough about gunpsykers needing ammo as it is.
obtuse moth
its far worse than slaughterer + your pick
maybe paired with wildfire
spice veldt
could prob still get by with recon if you selectively use it
hidden crystal
I tend to save it for ventilation purges.
spice veldt
4 people should go run recon lasguns on hi-shock and report on their ammo
obtuse moth
Infernus is a different matter; that's something that boosts a crit a lot beyond...
you mean like the situation we're talking about
noth: @hidden crystal i can assume its happening if i have a high enough chance and roll fast enough, its just not great for direct damage single hits
hidden crystal
You might have missed some of what I said earlier.
obtuse moth
no, i specifically was talking about this sort of situation and you responded to that very message with an @reply refuting it
hidden crystal
My initial point was about crits generally being underwhelming unless you have the crit triggering something else, so "Ah, but crits are great with Infernus" isn't making the point that crits aren't very exciting in their base form.
worthy moon
which one should I upgrade?
hidden crystal
Something like Surge or Infernus does something to make crits more worthwhile.
late yew
which one should I upgrade?
neither
worthy moon
into the bin
spice veldt
on the illisi, I like some warp res
hidden crystal
The stats are nice, but neither blessing is one I rate.
The right one could be nice if you can get deflector on it, but that relies on the next Blessing being a good one.
spice veldt
right one is fine, though you could possibly just use the left one if you're good at managing your peril and can spam it from 100%
72% warp res is nice for spamming light-specials into two elites continuously
hidden crystal
(Deflector with +20% Block is quite nice, but yeah, you'll want to reroll the mediocre carapace damage)
spice veldt
really just a matter of what you want out of your force swords
I like mobility and use force swords as my main weapon over my staff, so I'd personally run the left one since it's not like 49% warp res is terrible, and it could be my quietude stick if needed
only iffy aspect is that 49% warp res generates 25.4 peril and is just barely under that threshold for getting 5 continuous specials from 0% (or 3 from 50%)
late yew
BE VENGEANCE
ornate hamlet
How me and the boys feel loading into a hi5 shock
summer prairie
AB purg feels quite lackluster after running barrage purg for so long
magic burrow
I like Ascendant Blaze because it's fire and forget, does damage, and lets you get back warp charges from kills.
ornate hamlet
How should I build a Deimos Force Sword?
magic burrow
Nothing like blasting a big wave of "I'll pay you X warp charges to F off" into a horde
ornate hamlet
How should I build a Deimos Force Sword?
If Deflector is not needed, what Blessings should I use?
uneven drift
How should I build a Deimos Force Sword?
+maniac, unstable power. Other perk and blessings idk.
ornate hamlet
Honestly, I find Unstable Power to work with Illisi Sword better.
Since you can keep Warp-charging it quickly.
spice oar
maybe exorcist if your into that
torn hamlet
Hey do all staves share a blessing pool? Like If I take a blessing off a surge staff can I put it on a purgatus?
magic burrow
If Deflector is not needed, what Blessings should I use?
Slaughterer is always good as a generic "kill things" blessing. Uncanny strike is useful if you want to humiliate crushers with the special attack.
ornate hamlet
Hey do all staves share a blessing pool? Like If I take a blessing off a surge s...
I don't think so?
leaden thunder
sluaght is basically required, then on demios either unstable power or uncanny strike
either is good
magic burrow
Hey do all staves share a blessing pool? Like If I take a blessing off a surge s...
no. Every staff has its own blessing pool.
ornate hamlet
I want to call the Deimos Sword the "Poker of the Warp" or "The Emperor's Jab"
magic burrow
what is the strongest staff right now?
all staffs are useful in a way. Depends on what you want to do.
torn hamlet
what would be a good pairing with the deimos and illis force swords?
ornate hamlet
Obscurus Sword's basically a starting Force Sword...so what else to keep it up with the other Force Swords, aside from my usual suggestions?
magic burrow
Surge is great for stunlocking special/elite threats
Purge is great to keep hordes and other small stuff off of the team
Voidstrike is a good alrounder staff that has the longest range and does decent damage and stagger
Trauma is like carrying a box of small grenades. Can deal with anything, but is clunky and difficult to use.
torn hamlet
Surge is great for stunlocking special/elite threats
Purge is great to keep hord...
Ok thanks! I will have to play with them more. So far I like the purgatus since I have used the zealot flamer a lot and love it. Might try pairing it with the deimos so I can kill beefy targets.
Do the three force swords share a blessing pool?
ornate hamlet
I think yes
torn hamlet
cool that will make it easier to get a good deimos and illis
ornate hamlet
What's the heaviest melee weapon a Psyker could have? Is it the Combat Axe?
obtuse moth
That's probably the slowest one I can think of rn
ornate hamlet
(Note: By heavy, I mean lorewise the biggest conventional melee weapon for Psykers)
obtuse moth
Two handed force sword? Idk
leaden thunder
anything a normal human can wield + force version of that
rigid abyss
Imagine a Force Spear
Emperor forgive me for my thoughts, that would be naughty
ornate hamlet
Brih
rigid abyss
would spear special function like obscurus or illisi though?
halberd makes sense as a cleave like illisi
left basin
how big is the crit bazong on surge
leaden thunder
it just crits a lot, more then for big damage
left basin
i see the crit bonus but is it something to look out for specifically or should i just spam it
i'm a voidsurge moron so i don't use other staves much
rolling for level 4 perilcrit
rigid abyss
i used to only use voidstrike, but i like surge on damnation.
left basin
on void so i can slap the surge bless on it
rigid abyss
i think you usually want to charge surge til at least 50% for damage
ornate hamlet
When using Force Swords, I feel like one of those blade dancers in some Fantasy Games.
Just sayin', cuz damn I dodge a lot more often.
supple skiff
1v1ing the traitor captain with a demios is a great time
ornate hamlet
Duel the Daemonhost.
high prism
Hey any melee weapon that good for horde clearing
I wanna try lightning staff
It great against armor but suck ass vs trash mob
ornate hamlet
Hey any melee weapon that good for horde clearing
Illisi Force Sword.
static agate
Illisi has insane horde clear
edgy kite
After putting time into getting all the penances on psyker
all the other classes just feel.. shit.
Psyker literally has an answer for everything
drowsy slate
Tbh: I just have the same fell as you except not for psyker but for ogryn
edgy kite
Ogryn definitely has some weaknesses imo, but Psyker just.. i can't think of what it can't do
drowsy slate
Ogryn definitely has some weaknesses imo, but Psyker just.. i can't think of wha...
Which one?
ornate hamlet
How about take damage?
edgy kite
It's massive size and getting chunked by gunners
If you know how to block & dodge, psykers the tankiest class of em all imo
especially with kinetic deflector
drowsy slate
It's massive size and getting chunked by gunners
Size is Gud can shoot over sparkhead
Gud for looking
Also gunners just die
edgy kite
yeah they do, but there's always like 50 of em
drowsy slate
No problem shoot some till your toughness is gone hide wait for toughness come back super fast because of 200% faster toughness Regen shoot again
Just op
Mixed hord? No problem you replenish more toughness then you get damage anyways
Crushers? No problem just ripper them away
Somehow you ended up in a bad situation? Just run out of it unstoppable
ornate hamlet
Still wondering if the Obscurus Sword is worth it.
Cuz if not, then I'll have it surrendered to Hadron for the Blessing.
drowsy slate
Still wondering if the Obscurus Sword is worth it.
Tbh I think daimos and illis are better
ornate hamlet
That's why I'm thinking of doing it/
Unstable Power III
Which, if I'm not wrong, would have 18% more damage at high peril?
kind jay
obs is meh. use the others instead
ornate hamlet
Which, if I'm not wrong, would have 18% more damage at high peril?
This one would be better with the Illisi, since you can constantly charge it up unlike the others, which you have to pause.
However...compared with Slaughterer, which gives a total of 62.5% more damage...
drowsy slate
Slaughterer gives 75%
ornate hamlet
I'm gonna just do a funny and get a Catachan Sword for Veteran, with Rampage and Shred.
long wharf
Deimos does everything Obscurus does but better
Illisi does horde clear better than Deimos
... I feel bad for Catfish. It's gotta be painful hitting that commslink submit button knowing what the community really wants, what everyone is desperate for, isn't even mentioned or hinted at
halcyon creek
In the bottom 10 worst jobs, along with retail
At least we got these previews, much better than the radio silence in January shudders
long wharf
Having a whole new set of penances to do doesn't really excite me
Cosmetics are nice, but they're not what stops me from playing more
crude trout
if an enemy dies while having soulblaze but the last hit that did them in was another damage type, would that still be considered when proccing the AB passive?
long wharf
Yes
crude trout
thank you!
long wharf
AB procs for all psykers with it when any enemy dies with soulblaze on them
Doesn't matter who applied the soulblaze
rigid garden
+infested or unyielding on deimos?
near wyvern
+infested or unyielding on deimos?
Neither. +Maniac is really all you need.
rigid garden
Just wondering cause it has both and I'm trying to decide which to switch
iron star
long wharf
You want flak on surge
gloomy yarrow
65% burn rip
tropic vigil
It's not the worst staff but I think the 65 burn kinda ruins it.
wispy charm
whats the meta build for on the hardest difficulty?
summer prairie
it's the same as a 76+ one except vs bosses
wispy charm
for psyker
static agate
Whats the burn damage thresholds on the Purgatus for DoT damage stacks?
I know 76% is one, which one is before? 70%?
summer prairie
I don't remember exactly, 65% might still be 14 stacks
Nearly every enemy dies before you can even hit 15 stacks, so people have been overselling the importance of having 76+. Of course you'll rather have a perfect item than not
summer prairie
does it though, like you can get ogryns to 15 before they die but likely going to barely if at all affect when it dies
one full charge without crits gets you to 11 typically and with crits 14 is probably the average
fierce sinew
particularly the play pattern of dumping your AB into a mixed horde, if you get unlucky and don't recoup your charges immediately you're basically jumping everything in front of you to max stacks immediately, and the higher that number is the better
summer prairie
and you usually won't be using purg vs reapers
summer prairie
14 stacks vs unyielding is 160 damage ticks, 15 is 178. The odds of that making a difference when it dies are fairly low
fierce sinew
I've been able to notice the difference in the process of leveling my 5 psyker melk farm roster
between max burn and not
I mean we're basically in agreement that it's a numerically small but nonzero difference, how much one cares is up to him I guess
idle bay
14 stacks vs unyielding is 160 damage ticks, 15 is 178. The odds of that making ...
Quick question, with all those re-roll logs for perks - did you made a Bug report (i know cheeky thing for that problem) - to see if it's by design or it's a bug that 3 most useless and undesired perks have increased weight of appearing ? 🙂
We need to know - how deep their hate for players runs 🙂
One thing if it's a bug, and if not - it's a huge oof for them
summer prairie
I'm not going to do a report because I don't think it's a bug
I want ordo on everything anyway
idle bay
Then we need to pester them to buff that perk to at least +25% dockets for t4 version
digital loom
i've been running a variant of my favorite trauma loadout with void staff and illisi
enjoying it
i dont even notice the low damage
full bane
Y’all Spark’Ead’s excited for the 2h force sword?
ember sentinel
i would kill for that
i love zealot 2 handed weapons but i dont like cleaving one enemy at a time
snow panther
the heck does gain 4 - 16% mean
full bane
I initially thought it was a 2h power sword but it has the vent thing that a lot of psykers weapons have so it’s more likely a force sword but I’m still not fully sure
near wyvern
the heck does gain 4 - 16% mean
It used to be called warp nexus. The accurate description of that would be:
Gain +4% critical chance at 20/40/60/80 peril.
snow panther
ok thats what i thought hmm
kind jay
whats the meta build for on the hardest difficulty?
there isnt one. psyker has many effective builds for hi5 conditionals. better to post your build/gear and we can help optimize
magic burrow
personally I found that for Damnation Hi Intensity Shock Gauntlet, a Surge staff is really a must. The breathing space it creates for everyone else to do their thing is something no other class or weapon can really bring. Especially during those moments where the AI director just starts non-stop rapidfire throwing threats at you.
But you only need one. When you bring two, your team doesn't really have the DPS to kill things fast enough.
digital loom
just figured out the real difference between trauma and void
magic burrow
for regular Damnation, you can bring basically any staff. Purgatus probably being the most popular as it doesn't need super rare or high tier blessings to be effective.
magic burrow
Surge too, I guess, but running surge in regular Ddamnation seems a bit of a waste. Maybe if your team has a bit less experience and they need the crowd control.
crusher swarms in tight quarters are probably some of the more pants ruining situations you can find yourself in
digital ledge
I did my 1st psyker resontly and did knife and fire staff.
The knife is for high speed travel and melee swings. More swings the better.
Idr the % chance but with all attacks I do I have a chance to brain pop an enemy and allies around me have a chance to grant me a warp charge.
The fire and knife make this happen alot so I've always got charges
limber heath
near gale
yeah, the bb on hit from the feat has a cd
spice veldt
two surges is fine as long as your melee is good
the DPS of melee is fine, especially against mutants/dogs and with the amount of cleave they have
and surge isn't necessary if you're running another CC like trauma and/or you're on top of killing special spawns
especially because specials spawn one-by-one instead of all at once (though they might be synchronized because of different move speeds and which closet they came out of)
primal plume
Y’all Spark’Ead’s excited for the 2h force sword?
Why not just link the thread
full bane
Too lazy
primal plume
wouldve taken less work to just copy the link instead of 3 images
full bane
Thanks Spark’Ead
olive ember
Y’all Spark’Ead’s excited for the 2h force sword?
link? >.>
full bane
It was linked above
olive ember
ah yeah saw it
olive ember
Also its likely not for psyker
pretty sure it is for psyker considering the data mined image had the title "sanctioned" or wte under it
as in sanctioned psyker
no clue tho at this point
people said theres a datamined 2h psword and a 2h FS and a 2h chainaxe
spice veldt
the force sword is the one that said sanctioned
you also see that 2h being wielded by a non-psyker (no collar)
not sure if leaked weapons are restricted by class tho
full bane
Ah that explains the difference between the icon and In game model
olive ember
also yeah i take that back I thought you were showing the force sword
but you are showing the psword (ew)
yeah thats prob not for psyker
spice veldt
i'll be happy for a slicey dicey 2h sword that actually has good cleave
presumably, it's going to have good cleave
eviscerator's a low bar to clear anyways
full bane
I swear if there are any over heads in the light chain imma be mad
I want exe sword v2
olive ember
Light chain is all pokes, heavy chain is all overheads
brisk kelp
No over heads, a poke though
olive ember
prepare to be amazed
spice veldt
it also better not have a fuckin uppercut
olive ember
Special attack makes you do a leg sweep
they coded in an animation specifically for your character to crouch down and cut at the legs
spice veldt
blessing - when crouching, deal 10% more damage to leg hitboxes of enemies
deft gorge
let me use dark eldar weapons
cyan notch
i dont see the big deal with 2h weapons
leaden thunder
an upper cut slash that somehow has head priority tho
cyan notch
people seem to like them just because theyre 2h weapons
full bane
people seem to like them just because theyre 2h weapons
Correct
cyan notch
which is weird
olive ember
if its one handed why can't I use a shield
full bane
How so?
cyan notch
u guys should all use the evis then
spice veldt
and the animations are going to vary a bit more than from the myriad of 1h weapons we have
deft gorge
2 is larger than 1 therefore 2h sword is better
brisk kelp
u guys should all use the evis then
Or thammer
full bane
Evis is not in a good place atm
olive ember
I mean what I want is a polearm lmao
spice veldt
ur fraud
olive ember
give me a halberd
deft gorge
i cannot use evis as I am not a zealot
olive ember
I wanna be able to poke enemies from a safe distance
cyan notch
what makes u think the 2h fs is gonna be good
olive ember
oh or a spear charge
cyan notch
ITS GONNA BE BAD
spice veldt
strongest psyker arms can't even handle a braced autogun
full bane
Big sword
cyan notch
and then no one will use it even though they said they wanted a 2h weapon so bad
spice veldt
maybe they'll upgrade psyker arms
brisk kelp
Or they'll use it and get flamed
olive ember
and since its not an iconic weapon
no one will think "oh the eviscerator is good guys comon"
like the zealots over there
spice veldt
well we'll have another punching bag at least
and then maybe we'll get overbuffed again
spice veldt
that's true
cyan notch
slow af attacks
cyan notch
thammer is pretty slow
spice veldt
if you can swing an arming sword at the speeds that you can with the 1h blaze force swords
at least with hammers, the weight is distributed onto the end with the center of mass farther from the hand
so it makes sense for that
spice veldt
same for IRL hammers if you've ever held a sledgehammer
leaden thunder
I'll cope about what ever cool weapon I think will be added all I want
cyan notch
thats coming in about 8months to a year
full bane
So?
spice veldt
where's my comet azur staff, fatshark
olive ember
thats coming in about 8months to a year
look we don't have much else to be hype about smh
let us be hype
leaden thunder
thats coming in about 8months to a year
olive ember
where's my comet azur staff, fatshark
comet azure sucks anyways
cyan notch
not allowed until they give a roadmap
leaden thunder
my greatest insult I can do, to call you french
full bane
I’m more of a faith guy
cyan notch
i think french is aight
full bane
olive ember
smh
full bane
What?
leaden thunder
cyan notch
olive ember
Frenzy burst spaming tryhards smh
primal plume
pretty sure it is for psyker considering the data mined image had the title "san...
It also says "Power Sword" and not "Force Sword"
olive ember
next you are going to tell me you run bleed builds
full bane
Frenzy burst spaming tryhards smh
I’m a beast incant enjoyer
primal plume
olive ember
It also says "Power Sword" and not "Force Sword"
eh both have been datamined so
yeah
full bane
Doesn’t matter in the end
olive ember
can't believe you don't run int mage
primal plume
i just want a new staff
olive ember
rock sling best
spice veldt
peril glock
primal plume
peril glock
Voidstrike
spice veldt
voidstrike's DPS is dogshit
full bane
rock sling best
Beast incants let me throw rocks too
spice veldt
the DPS of our 4 staffs is dogshit
I don't get why people like to compare staffs to guns
primal plume
I don't get why people like to compare staffs to guns
Who?
olive ember
Beast incants let me throw rocks too
smh those are the bad rocks
full bane
Me?
spice veldt
are you really gaslighting me
primal plume
are you really gaslighting me
Do you not understand jokes?
spice veldt
no
and I know that you like to defend the voidstrike
that's the context I'm running on
spice veldt
and it's not really a gun staff because it lacks DPS
primal plume
and it's not really a gun staff because it lacks DPS
Not the point
spice veldt
the only analogy that you can draw is that it shoots in a straight line and has range
primal plume
I made a joke chill
spice veldt
the point of almost every gun in the game is that it has high burst DPS in exchange for almost no cleave
no
cyan notch
3 out of 4 staves shoot left click in a straight line too
lethal folio
gunstaff
spice veldt
is that like a hand held cannon?
full bane
Alakablam
lethal folio
Hand gonne
Because back then guns were cannons, and you couldn't carry them by hand.
olive ember
is that like a hand held cannon?
primal plume
MFs will really use voidstrike staffs like this on damnation and say its a bad weapon
full bane
Maybe Spark’Ead could get a beam staff similar to sienna’s
spice veldt
it's not bad
just bad compared to other staffs
I'd be fine with using the voidstrike if I could sprint slide with it
full bane
Trauma staff my beloved
olive ember
Maybe Spark’Ead could get a beam staff similar to sienna’s
but I hate the beam staff ;-;
primal plume
it's not bad
spice veldt
but it lacks that mobility option or protection from range when casting
full bane
but I hate the beam staff ;-;
Too bad
primal plume
the DPS is dogshit?
spice veldt
at the bottom of discord, you can see when a person is typing
full bane
Lads calm down we don’t want to cause an incursion now do we?
spice veldt
perhaps you should let them finish before making a fool of yourself
primal plume
boltstaff chads where you at
spice veldt
you'll hear me saying that the DPS of every other staff is dogshit
full bane
but i hate the beam staff
I’d be fine with the shotgun staff that I can’t remember the name of
lethal folio
Coruscation
full bane
Thanks
cyan notch
beam had a shotgun too
olive ember
stolen
cyan notch
best of both worlds
cyan notch
thats basically a shotgun
spice veldt
interesting
full bane
I never used the Coruscation, what’s it’s performance like?
spice veldt
i suppose in the context of this game, there's the minimum pellet count thingy that it would follow if it were a real shotgun
olive ember
mfw when I gotta go to the erdtree for the 4th time because this build I'm using needs the fucking rotten wing sword talisman again
fuck
cyan notch
beam was great it had 3 fire modes it had shotgun a snipe and a sustained snipe
spice veldt
i love any tracking weapon (that has good DPS and doesn't have shit ammo economy)
cyan notch
recon
spice veldt
:(
i made a point of qualifying with those last two conditions >:(
wonder if they're ever going to make LMB of staffs good
lethal folio
Coruscation was gamebreaking op
spice veldt
so weird to look at beam staff gameplay with a primary that looks particularly useful in conjunction with the secondary (though I suppose there's the purg)
cyan notch
I never used the Coruscation, what’s it’s performance like?
pretty good it left fire patches on the floor for a long ass time
lunar hollow
wonder if they're ever going to make LMB of staffs good
theyre gonna make one of the new psyker penances to do 100% damage on a boss with only staff LMB
olive ember
theyre gonna make one of the new psyker penances to do 100% damage on a boss wit...
do 100% damage to boss only with staff special
cyan notch
they said the new penances werent gonna be a one off in a mission thing
lunar hollow
they said the new penances werent gonna be a one off in a mission thing
which is just fucking annoying
"take 300 years to kill 4 elites while crouching 60 times"
riveting gameplay
spice veldt
maybe not crouching but sliding
spice veldt
while standing on a handrail
full bane
While doing a hand stand
spice veldt
I'd like penances like "kill enemies with melee while sliding" for the sake of teaching players actually good habits
full bane
^
brisk kelp
"kill at least five elites in a single mission using only grenades 100 times"
For ogryn
full bane
Weapon specific penances would be kinda neat
spice veldt
or if they're not going to have an in-game glossary for a long ass time, at least hint at more obscure mechanics with penances
ornate hamlet
Get 2 headshot kills in a single slide
brisk kelp
It took me an embarrassingly long time to realise that corruptor was the eyeball thing
full bane
brisk kelp
Or the mission objective
spice veldt
who looks at mission objectives smh
brisk kelp
"destroy demon infestation"
spice veldt
I kind of just blank out on the mission objectives and go to wherever the marks tell me to go
full bane
I just do what metal lady tells me
brisk kelp
I just get morrow shouting at me :<
full bane
Morrow was steel legion so it makes sense why he’s hard on everyone
brisk kelp
Yeah, but I still don't like him shouting about being too slow, since there's nothing I can do about it :<
full bane
grow thicker skin then Spark’Ead
spice veldt
maybe if you stacked +3 stamina curios and sprint eff on curios and your weapon you wouldnt be so slow would you
brisk kelp
Maybe, I'll do that and also grab a knife with stamina and sprint
digital loom
trauma does something weird combined with wildfire
lethal folio
Advantage to voidstrike is you get 6 stacks with one hit.
full bane
Trauma my beloved
lethal folio
because explosion+impact
full bane
What’s y’all’s favorite variant of force sword? I’ve recently become a big fan of the illis because of its cleave
brisk kelp
The single target one feels really good (the arrow head one, don't know the name)
spice veldt
illisi is my favorite one
can deal with two human-sized elites at once
light-specials are fast enough to stagger ragers/maulers repeatedly
brisk kelp
That's the cleaving one, right?
spice veldt
ye
and just having 18.4 cleave at max slaughterer stacks with the special is so good
magic burrow
deimos oneshots muties
full bane
Prove it
brisk kelp
It does what now?
full bane
Clip or not true
primal plume
deimos oneshots muties
Its possible but you need a very specific perk and blessings
basically a god roll
saw a clip months ago
but you can one shot a mutie with one heavy, uncharged thrust headshot
primal plume
ill try to fnd it
lethal folio
The
lethal folio
Just psyker feats and a well rolled sword.
spice veldt
damn you don't even need unstable power for that?
cyan notch
u never did
primal plume
ill try to fnd it
full bane
What feats?
lethal folio
combination of Warp unleashed/battery
primal plume
brisk kelp
Well I'll be
lethal folio
need about 33% total damage
brisk kelp
The clip has six warp charges
neat summit
I was gonna say. I was testing out the thrust heavy attack and it‘ll two shot muties and one shot most non Ogyrn specials without any special setup or god roll
ember sentinel
yeah you need like one warp charge
neat summit
It’s my favorite melee currently
full bane
Definitely going to give the Deimos a whirl
summer prairie
Mine does it at 5 stacks and 0 peril iirc
cyan notch
u dont need weakspot
ember sentinel
mine does it with +mutants and one warp charge
cyan notch
or every damage bonus
ember sentinel
almost does it with none
spice veldt
just looking at the calc, you need 38% extra damage off of a +25% maniac 80/80/80 deimos
summer prairie
at 0 peril?
ember sentinel
been a little since i tested it
spice veldt
6 wc is 24%, so you'll need 14% from elsewhere
lethal folio
Deimos has goofy damage
neat summit
On H+ it’ll two shot in most circumstances with any decent roll with or without charges
ember sentinel
get slaughterer and it even horde clears
leaden thunder
you'd figure when it does that much damage they'd have make it not bounce visually
cyan notch
thats with uncanny
primal plume
Also that voiceline lined up perfectly with killing the first mutant
neat summit
Deimos is my go to currently. I use purg or surge staff, so hordes aren’t a problem
full bane
Haven’t played Spark’Ead much lately guess I got work to do now
neat summit
Deimos will one shot most specials on the thrust as well. It’s really nutty
leaden thunder
can't the illisi also one shot muties with a good roll
spice veldt
without slaughterer you can't
ember sentinel
idk about one shot
leaden thunder
feel like Lazorrs does
spice veldt
lemme test my roll
neat summit
I think you can with Illisi with the right rolls stacked up
ember sentinel
id believe it
spice veldt
i also have unstable power
ember sentinel
probably high peril with unstable and slaughterer up
neat summit
I do my tests unbuffed as much as I can
ember sentinel
yeah i run slaughterer/unstable
full bane
What are the best perks and blessings for the trauma?
leaden thunder
like as wild as it is the demios can do that, the illisi is probably more powerful
ember sentinel
rending shockwave/warp flurry
spice veldt
+unarmoured is nice to oneshot dreg bruisers (450 hp) without needing to stack damage buffs from elsewhere
ember sentinel
yeah id agree illsi is better
brisk kelp
How's the cleave damage with illisi? Can you kill everything you touch in a horde or is it multiple swings?
cyan notch
yea u can if u go omega slaughterer unstable buffbuffbuff
ember sentinel
How's the cleave damage with illisi? Can you kill everything you touch in a hord...
yeah pretty much
spice veldt
with max t4 slaughterer stacks, unstable power, warp unleashed, and 4 warp charges, I deal 200+ bodyshot damage with the minimum cleave damage
leaden thunder
activated yes
ember sentinel
it cleaves through just about everything
leaden thunder
unactivated it's still up there on the horde clear levels
neat summit
IIRC illisi with the right perks blessings and buffs will cleave hordes and one shot specials
full bane
I do love big cleave
neat summit
It’s nutty
ember sentinel
i usually dont even bother charging on horde clear
spice veldt
it has 10.5 base cleave when activated
ember sentinel
doesnt feel needed
leaden thunder
anyone have the JO Illisi clip on hand
brisk kelp
I see
spice veldt
brisk kelp
I'm just gonna take some notes for tomorrow then, this will be interesting.
spice veldt
here's a comparison of the special heavies vs normal heavies on the deimos
normal heavies are pretty good
leaden thunder
just a small amount of damage
spice veldt
but special heavies are very good
spice veldt
and if you spam dodges, you'll rarely get hit when activating your special
neat summit
I like the Deimos because I can simply heavy thrust headshot most specials without worrying about buffs and whatnot. I can just swap, slash cancel into thrust and swap back
spice veldt
so the lack of power cycler is not really a downside for the illisi
ember sentinel
imagine if you could do multiple swings in one charge lol
spice veldt
you also don't have to worry about buffs with the illisi since you should be able to reliably two-shot mutants with some combination of heavy-special headshots/bodyshots
or just light-spam into human-sized elites
because the special seems to have strong stagger that can stagger ragers out of their combos
and spamming the light-special (activation and swing) is fast enough to hit ragers/maulers before they can get an attack off
neat summit
Yah I just want to pull the sword out, kill a dude, and put it back so I can torch the horde.
spice veldt
for me, illisi is my main weapon
ember sentinel
maybe im under utilizing the special, i only use it to kill elites/start of a horde
or spam it to get quietude off it
lethal folio
Bit slower but you can rub fast with qq deimos
blazing trout
Nah, that’s what I do but it’s still too slow for me
30% warp resist illisi, 3 rubs puts me at 97
Too cozy
But I’m hoping I can find a 10-20% Deimos
leaden thunder
godroll weapons that want low stats are always funny to me
ember sentinel
i have a good roll but it doesnt have super low warp res
only issue with it
everything else is like 70+
or 80
brisk kelp
I'm amazed you're actively looking for low resist, that's some high IQ stuff I did not think of
neat summit
Yah it’s kinda funny
neat summit
It’s the null stat lmao
blazing trout
It makes it likely to find a decent one from the store too
ember sentinel
the only one thats sketchy with low res is trauma
full bane
Yeah
ember sentinel
although i care less when it comes to the staffs
spice veldt
you could make a case for low warp res with any weapon with how good quelling is now
i'd be fine with a low res trauma for quietude
ember sentinel
thats fair i just worry about how much your gonna be quelling vs actually using the staff
summer prairie
with perfect rolls you only need to quell for two ticks
spice veldt
at least it's not as bad as the 47% peril days
though I still kinda liked it when the trauma generated that much peril
full bane
Correct
magic burrow
here's my Deimos. Just did a bit of testing, and with five stacks of slaughterer and high peril I instakill a mutie with a charged heavy
no warp stacks
neat summit
Pop pop
hollow steeple
So I finally have a well-rolled trauma staff
I just need rending whatchacallit to put on it
and I have to say, I am liking it a lot
still prefer the Purgatus though
ember sentinel
i dont think ive ever seen riposte used
strange canyon
transfer peril > what?
weak spot dmg > ?
ember sentinel
is it good? ive heard that what counts as a dodge can be sketchy
magic burrow
I just threw it on there because I didnt have anything better, and I don't really use deflector
spice veldt
riposte is meh
neat summit
is it good? ive heard that what counts as a dodge can be sketchy
This. I find it inconsistent
spice veldt
transfer peril into either flurry or focused
focused if you like to push into ranged enemies with trauma
strange canyon
is it good? ive heard that what counts as a dodge can be sketchy
works well with big dodge weapons (knife), you can see the buff activating on your bar
spice veldt
otherwise go for flurry
strange canyon
ty
spice veldt
weakspot into probably +unarmoured for more reliably one-shotting dreg bruisers (450 hp)
neat summit
It’s playable and it’s fun
ember sentinel
maybe its better than i think it is tho
strange canyon
any weird feats you need for trauma build
ember sentinel
yeah its usable
ember sentinel
any weird feats you need for trauma build
dont think so
unless you want to do the fire build
neat summit
is the fire crit build a meme?
It’s not great and you have to be much better about using cover than you would normally
spice veldt
depends on what you're using trauma for
strange canyon
It’s not great and you have to be much better about using cover than you would n...
aha certainly not for me then lol
spice veldt
I use trauma more as a support to my melee and as my panic button, so I like warp unleashed over inner tranq
ember sentinel
i think i run unleashed on everything tbh
the damage is just so good
unless im thinking of the wrong feat
spice veldt
yeah top lvl10 feat
ember sentinel
ok yeah
i use that one on everything lol
unless i eventually try a fire build
and use W&R
spice veldt
trauma doesn't really need feats to hit breakpoints except on dreg bruisers if you're not running +unarmoured, and the other feats are more or less just benefitting psyker in general unless you want quicken for more staff spam
maybe you could give up kinetic deflection since trauma provides the space that you need to get revives off
spice veldt
it's nice for preventing guardbreaks and prevents the need to go for a +stam curio when running a low stam weapon with dogshit block cost like the force swords (which are currently bugged to consume 1.5 bars instead of 1 bar when blocking frontal attacks of most melee)
ember sentinel
yeah i dont use stam curios with force swords so i usually just push or dodge and almost never block but i should probably get stam eventually
spice veldt
I personally run a +stam curio instead of taking kinetic def
ember sentinel
ik its recommended
full bane
How good is the light spam on the illisi?
ember sentinel
pretty good with slaughterer
spice veldt
lights are all diagonals/horizontals
full bane
Sick
spice veldt
I still don't like light spams for hordeclear though
lights only have 2 cleave and heavies have 6
full bane
Just wondering is all
spice veldt
doesn't matter for specials since both special-lights and special-heavies have 10.5 cleave
with the difference being the cleave distribution and damage
ember sentinel
the heavy does more damage tho doesnt it?
spice veldt
ye
ember sentinel
yeah the vertical swing is really nice
spice veldt
seems that most of the lag comes from the end of the heavy when chaining into your next attack
ember sentinel
very satisfying when it cleaves the mutant in half too lol
spice veldt
very anxiety inducing when I'm waiting for a mutant to come near before my slaughterer stacks run out so that I can one-shot his ass
ember sentinel
yeah with illsi i generally just try to respect mutants and dont count on murdering them instantly like i do with deimos
but its still very good
i wish BB was better vs them sometimes for when they are far and not after me but theyve just got so much health
spice veldt
very sad when I have to dodge mutants and let my teammates kill them
though their gimmick is being strong against ranged (except against certain ranged weapons which have bonus maniac damage for some god forsaken reason)
kind jay
save all mutants for arco. got it.
full bane
That’s when muties get a box to the dome
ember sentinel
do they have a resistance to BB? i feel like it takes more BBs to kill mutant than crushers
full bane
Curiosity of your friendly neighborhood Ogryn
ember sentinel
mutants eating shit and flying when you box them gives me life
spice veldt
nah mutants take the full 1100 damage it seems
kind jay
i mean
kind jay
Box is the best weapon in the entire game
spice veldt
in exchange for taking 3x damage against melee
ember sentinel
how much do crushers have?
it might just be coincidence that i feel like i never kill them with BB
full bane
Box also one shots reapers to the dome on any difficulty which is nice
spice veldt
2550, but crushers take 907.5 damage from BB
ember sentinel
ah ok thats why
ember sentinel
yeah you can BB them
im just cant rely on it to kill a lot of the time but our force swords destroy them so its fine
well idk about obscurus
full bane
POV: You are a Mutie
spice veldt
my pre-patch obscurus could two-shot muties with light-special bodyshots and could do it reliably with warp unleashed (I didn't run unstable power before)
normals on force swords are also fine
just with the usual problems of the sticky special
and especially now that bloodthirsty got nerfed
and the timing on that fucking 2nd heavy got changed
and even though the attack direction of the 2nd heavies are the same on both the obscurus and illisi, their hold timings are different?
cyan notch
skill issue
spice veldt
this minor inconvenience to my muscle memory reflects poorly on the obscurus
cold geode
is sustained fire useful on void?
kind jay
bloodthirsty obscurus was so much fun
ive never seen anything take out a captain shield so fast
spice veldt
so good for racking up slaughterer stacks with the initial damage boost and then just going ham from there
or chaining special attacks on ragers/maulers within 5 seconds and being able to whack on any other enemies without worrying about losing the buff
or just using normals on maulers/ragers and killing them with guaranteed crits
ember sentinel
it only works on void
ember sentinel
p sure it just means it fires a second projectile
but on everything else its just LMB
topaz yoke
lmao nice
ember sentinel
yeah lol
cold geode
wish me luck siblings
north cradle
Was there always an option to use Arabic instead of Roman numbers?
leaden thunder
mod
sick solar
Siblings, I've been talking with my beloved and he decided to give me a nice gift and now my Trauma staff is complete:
waxen star
Its the warp nexus one they changed the name rises crit chance based on peril
waxen star
Siblings, I've been talking with my beloved and he decided to give me a nice gif...
Wouldn't be better transfer peril instead of harnessing the warp? For extra casts..
sick solar
Wouldn't be better transfer peril instead of harnessing the warp? For extra cast...
Perhaps, but if you have good quell management, you'll be fine. I'm just happy to have my first 550.
obtuse moth
Wouldn't be better transfer peril instead of harnessing the warp? For extra cast...
transfer peril doesnt work on the right click which is the bread and butter of the build, if they don't left click much transfer peril is useless
sick solar
transfer peril doesnt work on the right click which is the bread and butter of t...
That's what I thought, but wasn't sure if anything changed.
foggy tangle
is the one on the left worth buying and using over the one on the right? not sure how important blast radius is
waxen star
Perhaps, but if you have good quell management, you'll be fine. I'm just happy t...
I just said that because your warp flurry its locked so with transfer peril if you are hitting the weakspots you would be casting with the full 50% speed after reaching it. Thats what happens with my void. If you are managing the peril you are not taking full advantage of warp flurry. At this point you would be better casting on the red peril. Quelling and cast again for max crits.
sick solar
I just said that because your warp flurry its locked so with transfer peril if y...
I manage it at the last second around the 90% range.
obtuse moth
I just said that because your warp flurry its locked so with transfer peril if y...
you can't hit weakspots with a circle cast on the floor. trauma staff is not voidstrike staff
sick solar
you can't hit weakspots with a circle cast on the floor. trauma staff is not voi...
yeah, you're right:
obtuse moth
is the one on the left worth buying and using over the one on the right? not sur...
the left one is better yea, both because it has + maniac and because quell speed is the dump stat which is what you want in a transfer peril build. you can put +flack and transfer peril on it
sick solar
Uless feet are weak spots?
waxen star
you can't hit weakspots with a circle cast on the floor. trauma staff is not voi...
You are marking it on the floor but doesn't the cast comes from above? I have some really good trauma but don't like how it plays so I barely play with it
obtuse moth
You are marking it on the floor but doesn't the cast comes from above? I have so...
i can only say it so many ways, right click on trauma doesnt work with transfer peril
sick solar
I like the Trauma for horde clear.
broken pollen
illisi or deimos?
obtuse moth
illisi or deimos?
illisi for hordeclear, deimos for elite killing and mutant oneshotting (all without empowering)
broken pollen
purg staff and deimos best blessings?
waxen star
I like the Trauma for horde clear.
You would love trauma if it was an implosion instead of explosion like a kind of black hole effect. I don't like how it disperses elites.
obtuse moth
also illisi if you abuse ascendant blaze because you can spam peril for warp unleashed and unstable power while getting slaughterer stacks
sick solar
I like it, it's fun to blow up a ton of poxy boys.
obtuse moth
You would love trauma if it was an implosion instead of explosion like a kind of...
the key is to aim it farther ahead of the group most of the time, and if they get close aim it at your teams feat so it pushes elites back. you also can just use minimum cast time single target casts on individual enemies for high priority stagger targets
waxen star
I like it, it's fun to blow up a ton of poxy boys.
I will try to play around with mine more to see if it grows on me. And when I get home going to test the transfer peril on the meat grinder out of curiosity. I really though you were marking the floor but the cast was coming from above.
broken pollen
quell speed awesome
sick solar
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You want Burn, Cloud and Damage; in that order.
waxen star
I made many purgatus I believe you need damage and burn at 75 at least. Because at 75 or 80 the values are the same
waxen star
Yup I think thats good for base stats. The warp resistance variation from 50% to 80% its about only 2% per cast
waxen star
Good luck
