psyker-class

[leaden thunder]

I don't think most vets run camo

unwavering is like

significantly stronger

[drowsy slate]

I rarely need ammo tbh

[dry oar]

What is unwavering again?

[drowsy slate]

Tbh I only take ammo when a crate is dropped

[leaden thunder]

75% toughness damage reduction while under volley fire

[dry oar]

Ah.

Dunno then tbh, not much of a Vet main myself but i've heard of many vets using it

[void mural]

Depends on the gun and your build, and what roles your weapons are filling. Also depend on how many people need ammo in any particular group, and how ammo hungry their weapons are

[fierce sinew]

many vets are baboons

[dry oar]

Lmfao

[dry oar]

Magdumping bolter vets

[void mural]

I won't take a shredder pistol if I see a vet using a recon Las gun, a zealot with a flamer, and a zealot with a shotgun. Too many ammo hungry guns

Nah, bolter is pretty efficient with ammo if you're not mag dumping, so I don't assume it's an ammo hungry gun when I see it

[dry oar]

Only ammo hungry if they are trigger happy for the most part, I main zealot and psyker and I rarely find myself out of ammo with a flamer

[void mural]

Any gun can be ammo hungry if the player is overzealous, or bad at aiming

[dry oar]

Fair

[olive ember]

I mean people complaining gun psykers take up ammo is like... yeah but so does every other class, bringing a gun psyker is just like any other 4 gun comp but with a different moveset

ofc bad gun psykers will waste ammo

but thats just bad any class

[void mural]

I only assume extra ammo hungry when I see things like plasma gun, shotguns, recon Las gun

Shredder pistol

[static agate]

How usefull is blessing Uncanny Strike 4 on deimos?

[void mural]

Good for nuking armored targets if you're good at headshotting

[static agate]

Uncanny Strike 4 vs Slaughterer 4 on Deimos?

Dont think which to replace with deflector

[void mural]

Slaughterer 100%

[static agate]

To keep?

[void mural]

No question. If a weapon can take slaughterer, it takes it

[static agate]

Alright

[void mural]

Slaughterer is just OP

[olive ember]

autopistol ammo economy is actually rly good

[dry oar]

Yeah but psykers have access to a nigh infinite-ammo ranged weapon with AOE/projectile/CC depending on the staff, it just doesn't make sense to me why putting a toll on ammo would be worth it

[olive ember]

its like 3 ammo to kill a normal shooter

the problem is that

people tend to go haha autopistol go BRRRRR

and just sprays into every horde they see

[void mural]

It is if you're conservative with it, and not mag dumping hordes. But that is fun to do, and effective, so I assume most people do it

[fierce sinew]

this is so obvious and yet so hard for reddit etc lobotomites to understand

[olive ember]

I run it because I hate shooters, also auto pistol psyker is def a carry build, because of the ability to quickly swap to it and basically hold m1 and delete everything short of a crusher or bulwark

[olive ember]

I mean the illisi exists for cutting hordes up

[magic burrow]

gun psykers have the benefit that they can be ammo conservative without being limited to using a melee weapon

[void mural]

Maybe you've got 2 psykers. Maybe the ogryn is bringing a kickback or rumbler, and you have a vet on the team. Those guns use no ammo if there's a vet providing replenishment with his aura

[magic burrow]

if Im playing with the shredder and I see that teammates are blazing through their ammo, I just use BB more often

[olive ember]

I mean the main benefit of bringing the shredder really is just

[magic burrow]

DPS

[olive ember]

if a random special shows up behind you or next to you

you can quickly swap and spray it down

even if you are on high peril

[dry oar]

Maybe Im just an odd ball then ig

[olive ember]

I mean don't get me wrong staffs are still meta and rly nice

def feelsgood to not even think about ammo

[void mural]

@dry oar also, people can be conservative with their ammo if they're bringing gun psyker. It's what I do. I always make sure to give ammo to people who actually require it for ranged damage, and take what I can get when they've got good ammo stocked

[olive ember]

but the use cases of autopistol are enough to warrant bringing it

sure you can argue "why not just play zealot or vet then" but then its just the kit tbh

I prefer psyker's kit and melee compared to vets or zealots for that matter

[void mural]

Also stupidly effective builds like AB pinning shredder pistol

[olive ember]

I mean I don't even use AB

KB works just as fine

less warp charge management, better long range sniping capabilities

[void mural]

I don't either, just saying that there's builds that require shredder

[olive ember]

lmao require pinning fire you mean

😛

[void mural]

And they're ridiculously ammo efficient too

Yeah

[dry oar]

I just build psyker like a jack of trades

Illis and void

[drowsy slate]

With mk12 you kill all normal shooter mobs with 1 shot when you have 6 warp charges

Just weakspot or unarmored spot

It’s hilarious

Reaper 1700dps on weakspot

[void mural]

Yeah, can't go wrong with that. I've been preferring trauma more lately, and trying out deimos. Not sure if I like it or not.

[dry oar]

trauma is more displacement than damage isn't it?

[void mural]

No, everything in the epicenter that's not a special gets nuked

It does take some finesse to not accidently surround your teammates with thrown enemies, but it's doable

It's great CC as wel

[dry oar]

Might have to give it a shot

[void mural]

And the epicenter kills most things below an ogryn with 2-3 full charges

[dry oar]

🤮

[void mural]

IIRC, quell speed is the dump stat, aim for unarmored and flak damage. Best blessings are focused channeling, warp flurry, and brittleness. There's also a decently effective meme build with warp nexus and blazing spirit with the wildfire talent

[dry oar]

well

[leaden thunder]

truama is a great cc stick as well

[leaden thunder]

it can knock down any threat really fast

ogryn packs etc

[void mural]

Rending shockwave is ok. Not my fave, but it's decent

I personally like focused channeling + warp flurry

[leaden thunder]

it's basically "I don't have anything that is really better to put here"

like in general on the weapon

[void mural]

Yeah

[leaden thunder]

like you could do warp nexus

but that's unreliable damage and a lot of things get 1 shot anyway

[void mural]

That's a decent one if you just want to try it out. Try to replace sustained fire with something better

[leaden thunder]

unless you are doing fire truama

which is fun and decent

tbh

becuase you still have all the strengths of the truama but with some extra spicy to it

[dry oar]

Unfortunately I have no blessings from trauma staff

[void mural]

Well, trauma is fine at base, and you've got good base rating and distribution

[dry oar]

Testing time

[drowsy slate]

I don’t like Trauma tbh. Peril is brutal and Range isn’t great too

Targeting is wired

It’s not super bad but it needs some love

[leaden thunder]

eh, it's pretty good

main thing it actually needs it better targeting

at least at range

within easy targeting range it is strong vs pretty much anything

[drowsy slate]

Maybe we need to talk about the definition of strong 😅

[leaden thunder]

500ish damage(iirc) to pretty much any health type

combined with a knock down

[near wyvern]

Nah, you just gotta learn the way

[leaden thunder]

I mean at long ranges, where you are looking up in the air

everything before that is fine

[near wyvern]

The current targetting is super good right on the edge since you can lift the target point up into air, the actual explosion is a sphere

[leaden thunder]

hmm

I never tried to actually use that when it did that

[dry oar]

I think it's 6% peril resist on a warp charge with the feat? Warp battery and peril resist make the peril gain negligible

Spammed 3 full charged secondaries back to back and didn't even hit 50%

[drowsy slate]

Yes I think Warp resistance is a must have

[near wyvern]

I like the high paril gain on my Trauma, makes a lot of toughness with Quietitude and it's easy to keep WU and nexus high

[near wyvern]

Flurry trauma requires it to be used properly, spirit nexus uses warp unleashed since you get to high perils and start to quell cancel between 80-100

[drowsy slate]

Do you got any breakpoints with the blessings?

[near wyvern]

Breakpoints? What break points are you after?

[drowsy slate]

Like kill in 1 fewer hit

[near wyvern]

Trauma one shots all trash with WU and enough warp charges regardless of perks

[drowsy slate]

Yes but no specials or elites right?

[near wyvern]

For flurry you have ideally +infested +unarmoured so you can one shot all trash without buffs

Special and elites doesn't really matter since you can just throw them around until they are dead

Trauma elite / special damage is not the best but you can perma CC all but mutants and crushers, where crushers you can still knock on their arse (they get 3 sec immunity when they get up)

[drowsy slate]

🤔 maybe I need to try a bit more… but I played some mk12 flashlight on my psyker today because I got a very decent one and somehow it feels so much better to me then the staffs

[near wyvern]

So what you really want with trauma is to one shot trash at epicenter for those battle mediation procs which keep your trauma going for longer

I myself like to use the blazing spirit warp nexus trauma tho, for that you absolutely need +5% crit chance and warp nexus 4

[blazing oak]

Was the art contest winners released

[shadow wigeon]

Yesssss

[drowsy slate]

So you light elites and specials up?

[near wyvern]

Everything in around 8.6m radius, aka 17m ish diameter sphere. That happens around once every 3rd/4th cast once I get myself up to 80, which happens quite fast with Trauma

And if there is a horde, I wait for a proc and ult with 6 stack AB for 9 stack blaze on the mixed horde. All that remain when I do that are crushers, which you can still knock around and deal good damage with the epicenter. For mutants I have Deimos for that 2nd heavy one shot.

[drowsy slate]

I See 🤔

I will wait for the coms link first before I sink more materials into this idea 😂

[near wyvern]

The blazing spirit on staves has a hard cap of 6 stacks so if you want to combine AB with it you gotta proc first to get the full benefit

[olive ember]

blazing spirit is kinda meh

[near wyvern]

Two procs would be ideal to get first but most often you don't have time for that and it's extremely hard to tell. The first proc is easy to notice since blue flames.

[olive ember]

a big problem is that you are relegated to take blazing spirit AND warp nexus

for it to be noticably effective

[near wyvern]

On all but Trauma yes, on Trauma it's really good with nexus spirit 4 (now harnessing the warp for questionable gains)

[olive ember]

and on both of those staves neither of those blessings are meta and you'd have to give up stuff like warp flurry or transfer peril etc.

Does blazing spirit + Nexus compete with flurry + shockwave?

[near wyvern]

Yes, but only if you have nexus 4

[olive ember]

🤔

[drowsy slate]

Transfer peril doesn’t work on trauma secondary right?

[near wyvern]

But the best part about it is you can deal better vs ranged

[olive ember]

nope

[near wyvern]

And that you don't need to actively gimp your team to deal damage

Since the blazing spirit applies also on the outer radius

[drowsy slate]

I will have some fun with a lasgun and wait for the patch

[olive ember]

Maybe I'll run a trauma blazing spirit staff and try it out

you run wildfire with it or just warp battery

[near wyvern]

It absolutely requires as close to max charge rate and blast radius you can get with nexus 4, I hope you will have good luck at hadron, the rest of the stats don't matter that much

[olive ember]

haha

fuck

[near wyvern]

Wildfire is bugged AF and therefore shit at the moment with any build. Use 311112 or 311212.

[shadow wigeon]

Wildfire does lots of damage with slaughter

[near wyvern]

No

[shadow wigeon]

Yes, it does, I’ve been running it for weeks.

[olive ember]

the 4 stack bug? or is there another bug

[near wyvern]

Slaughter does a lot of damage, you remove the wildfire and you don't see any significant damage drop

[north solstice]

what blessings do you goobers run for voidstrike?

[olive ember]

flurry + transfer peril is meta on voidstrike

[north solstice]

ty boo

[near wyvern]

@olive ember

[late yew]

Ok, i did not realise before that you suppose to stack slaughterer for AB to really be good...

Now i did

and holy shit

[void mural]

I play trauma with warp battery and inner tranquility, so the peril build up is way better. Also, warp flurry helps with peril as well.

[north solstice]

so this aight for now?

until i get a better quell of course

[late yew]

Horde literally dissapears in front of your eyes because of dead bodies count limit

[north solstice]

im rerolling sprint dont worry

[olive ember]

huh the 1 stack thing also sucks kekw

amazing

so theres more than one bug

and here I thought it was just that it wont apply to anything with more than 4 stacks

[near wyvern]

Yes that's the main reason it's ass because the flames go out by themselves, well that + 4 stack limit gimps it hard

People need to start reading on Atheneum more

[olive ember]

You need to remind us whenever you update it kek

[near wyvern]

I update it usually a day or two after patch

[olive ember]

yeah but I have bad memory

[late yew]

what is that

what do you think should be taken on 30 for surge btw

[north solstice]

steam guide

[late yew]

AB or elite killer

[olive ember]

Check pins

the Atheneums pinned

[north solstice]

i run barrage or whatever

AB is a meme for anything but purg

unless you run a specific blessing for your force sword

[late yew]

but with slaughter it can delete horde super quick

[north solstice]

yup

but slaughterer is just tad broken in general

but it does feel real nice

[void mural]

Pinning fire works too

[north solstice]

oh fr?

hot

[void mural]

Yeah

[late yew]

By specific you mean slat?

lol

[karmic copper]

so Vortex for nexus mods doesnt show darktide..?

and the search button on the guide inside the program isnt actually there in the current version?

[late yew]

you can make it seen

[karmic copper]

it oddly shows ONLY 255 games

which is wierd as fuck

@late yew am i waiting for more or is that the end of your comment? i just downloaded it while my fam was napping, and now theyre gone for 2 hours to inlaws, and im not sure wtf im doing wrong

[lilac tapir]

don't forget shredder with AB and pinning fire is currently broken - the interaction where pinning fire refreshes the stacks and prevents them from falling off (or at least that's how I understand it works)

[ionic needle]

God damn it FS why are you doing this to me?

Almost perfect stats

Shit perks and blessings

[karmic copper]

those are certainly shit perks and blessings indeed

[long wharf]

you need to download the Darktide plugin for Vortex

[karmic copper]

is that on the darktide website?

or off steam?

or from nexus mods

or some random google site

[long wharf]

no, it's on someone's github

you should be able to google it

[karmic copper]

"https://github.com/Darktide-Mod-Framework/Darktide-Vortex-Extension" the one and only?

[long wharf]

looks right

[karmic copper]

LOL. it says 'beta' on the icon.

@long wharf ty

my daughter just absolutely effing* meltdowned while trying to get her into the car after a nap with my wife, just 3 matches in a row during nap, and wife left soon as i shut daughters door because she was also cranky. come on to try and tackle this and its just bieng a huge shit

[magic burrow]

what's vortex?

[viral inlet]

a mod manager for nexusmods, it has functionality for autoupdating and installing mods so it's a perfect thing for newcomers to modding
but to anyone else adding mods to DT is really just as easy as putting stuff in a folder and writing stuff in a txt file

[rich rose]

If it works, for me, it didn't

Had to go manual

[shadow wigeon]

Get Shred on there and you have a meme sword.

Still unfortunate.

[karmic copper]

for me, vortex is for autoupdating

i havent updated anything since the patch

and i wouldnt, except my fam is gone for a few hours

figured id get the mod working instead, and then next time it would work itself out

do i have to load up vorpex after patches, or all the time? or what

cant get the mods working.. this is so frastrating. i always hated modding shit when i was younger. game just acts like nothing is there. i have mod load order .txt written out etc, vortex says everything is working, it all worked before the patch, i just replaced every file one at a time over the last 2 hours, resstarted steam and restarted vortex. tried loading darktide with and without vortex on.

[rich rose]

They REAAAAALLY need to make the "Block" list bigger sheesh. Vet "Why aren't you taking out the snipers??" ME "What is that las rifle broken??"

[limber heath]

Maybe he's out of ammo

[rich rose]

He was not, I can see his ammo count

[limber heath]

A vet being out of ammo was part of the joke. People gonna mald tho, just ignore.

Honestly the expectation that anyone else is going to deal with anything in an MM is how to lose missions

[gilded viper]

It s team effort to kill sniper, almost all the clas can do it so idk why the vet was calling u out for it (unless everything literally didn't had the weapon for it)

[rich rose]

I was literally in the middle of handling CC and he's crying because he got tapped by a sniper. Suuuuuure let me drop what I am doing to solve your problems vet, SMH

[gilded viper]

[long wharf]

just adding mods to Vortex isn't enough

once you have the plugin installed, and you've "installed" mods inside Vortex

you then have to go to the "Load Order" page and check mark the mods to deploy

it's not a fully integrated experience within Vortex

[foggy tangle]

haven't played in a while, want to use trauma and illisi what blessings should I get?

[olive ember]

Trauma is flurry + shockwave

Illisi slaughterer + deflector/unstable power/uncanny etc etc

[primal plume]

Does surge do less damage against enemies that dont have armour? Or does surge just do bonus damage to enemies with armour?

[plush glacier]

both, really

[plush glacier]

flurry + focused channeling is also good

[karmic copper]

does Vortex automatically sort order your mods? how do i know if something interferes with something else? i cant get my shit to load

[fierce sinew]

it's both but more than you think

press tab in the item menu and see, surging non-armor does cc and functionally nothing else

[foggy tangle]

appreciate it

[long wharf]

did you download and manually copy the Darktide Mod Framework from Nexus Mods?

that mod page has a link to complete instructions

[primal plume]

I dont think this updates at all depending on perk

[shadow wigeon]

With Harness it's not hard to have 30-45% crit rate with Surge. 2 hitting a rager isn't uncommon.

[shadow wigeon]

It does not

[marsh kayak]

ascendant blaze oe kinetic barrage for purg build?

[fierce sinew]

those are in two different columns

flayer on purg is dentge though

[marsh kayak]

my b i meant barrage

[fierce sinew]

both can be good, depends on what you're playing and trying to do

[edgy kite]

I'm tempted to buy this

[long wharf]

save your Milkies

[edgy kite]

Probably shouldl really

See what he has in 30 minutes

[fierce sinew]

accatran
no t4 blessing
no good perks
not sure what the temptation is, you can spam brunts for stats

[edgy kite]

Never actually used recon lasguns, so no clue what's good or not

[long wharf]

recon lasguns used to be better

there meme tier now

[edgy kite]

Ah i'll pass on em then

try get a decent autopistol instead, love using those.

[north cradle]

Recon Lasguns get less effective the better they sound

VId with Infernus scrapes out a C grade from me, but they're all pretty bad

[gloomy gulch]

Is the double critical hit blessing in the void staff worth it?

[iron star]

what is the best electrical stuff with perk and blessing and flametrhower

• the sword

[strange canyon]

worth from melk? idek what blessings are good on purg

[cyan notch]

pretty good yea

[shadow wigeon]

Definitely

Unyielding is good, harness is good, stats are good

[strange canyon]

barrage worth keeping or what else would be good you think?

[obtuse moth]

Flurry, it already suppresses really well. Other options are focused channeling and run and gun

[strange canyon]

alas I have only level 1 flurry banked, but thanks for input

flak or carapace better than infested i assume?

[shadow wigeon]

If you check the damage table, you’ll see it does no damage to carapace. Boosting it won’t help.

Flak is good choice

[cyan portal]

I kinda like infested, if you're using wildfire it helps push the 4 stack limit towards lethality against pox horde.

[sick solar]

So thinking if I can get Harnessing the Warp, or Terrifying Barrage on here, instead of Blazing Spirit, I might have a good one.
I'd prob drop the +1 Stamina too.

What do you all thinkg?

I wish the Charge Rate was in the 70s, but oh well on that.

[shadow wigeon]

Definite yes here. To get Flurry 4 is already worth it and that’s nearly peak staff.

[sick solar]

I'm finally lucky with the RNG (first time for everything.)

[sick solar]

I just found that I melted a T4 Terrifying Barrage before! Holy crap!

[shadow wigeon]

I would probably go for Focused, Rending or Harness before TB.

[sick solar]

Wish I had a Focused C. Guess it's back to RNG for while.

[sick solar]

What perk do you think would be best, Flac?

[shadow wigeon]

Flurry makes the biggest noticeable difference

[shadow wigeon]

I don’t know the breakpoints on Trauma

[sick solar]

do you mean the damage chart?

I still don't know how to calculate that very well.

[cyan notch]

you hit all the 1 shots for the dreg and scab trash already with warp unleashed

u can do +flak to 2 tap gunners easier

[sick solar]

Ok, and I get break points now, just looked up.

[spice veldt]

though they'll need an extra boost for dreg bruisers

since that staff needs an 18.7% damage boost to deal 450 to unarmoured

though that depends if they're running battery or not

[iron star]

is it good or i change the uncanny strike with blazing spirit?

[spice veldt]

blazing spirit is not particularly good

[iron star]

okok

ill keep it like that

[spice veldt]

uncanny strike is ok for maulers and crushers

and rending% increases your stagger if you have over 50% rending

but it will decrease your stagger if you have less than 50%

I personally like my unstable power as the second offensive blessing

[north solstice]

anyone else been having really laggy games lately?

or is it a skill issue

[iron star]

is it good for now?

[north solstice]

looks good

[shadow wigeon]

I would switch infested for unyielding or flak. And change terrifying barrage if you can.

[iron star]

the next staff ill get ill do it cause this is kinda bran news and i just bring my phycho to 30 level so ye

[cyan notch]

thats why i said with warp unleashed

dont need battery for that

[north solstice]

he noted he didnt have warp nexus to swap to sadly

[iron star]

for some begining start ye ill keep those

[north solstice]

but agreed flak would be better

[warped kernel]

can the trauma staff crit with the charged blast?

[leaden thunder]

yes

[warped kernel]

good to know, ty

[spice veldt]

though some insane people still like inner tranq with trauma

[sick solar]

Ok, here it is, finally done upgrading it:

[iron star]

so i guess phycher need shield right and not helath

[shadow wigeon]

I would start with health. Toughness is harder to play with.

[iron star]

i have 2 for toughness anyway phycher has very low hp

im 1 hit in tier 5

😄

[sick solar]

If I get HtW at L4 then I'll put that on it.

Are they going to change that text back to what Warp Nexus had... it seems off. without Crit mentioned.

[iron star]

but dunno since it has low hp toughness i think is the key since it has that brain burst damage

[spice veldt]

I stan for toughness, though HP is better if you tend to take consecutive hits often

or get blown up by bursters or hit by snipers

[shadow wigeon]

HP is better for grimoires, bombers as well.

[ember sentinel]

I also like toughness

Although i still do one toughness qurio 2 health

But lots of toughness regen

[long wharf]

HP is better for Pyskers and Ogryns

Toughness for Veterans and Zealots

[spice veldt]

I wouldn't say that it's strictly better than toughness

I much prefer toughness for being aggressive against ranged enemies

[ember sentinel]

Ive heard stamina is good

[spice veldt]

because increased toughness also means better regen from your feats

[ember sentinel]

But ive never had a stamina issue

At base stam

[spice veldt]

though that also depends on how much regen you get from your feats

with trauma/illisi, I generate quite a lot of toughness from quietude

[ornate hamlet]

I'm sorry, what are we gaining?

[ember sentinel]

Crit chance

[spice veldt]

swag

[ember sentinel]

And swag

[ornate hamlet]

ty

[fierce sinew]

4-16%

[ionic frost]

crit chance

[ripe night]

I need some ideas for what to work towards on my curios..

[paper gate]

I like having extra toughness and gunner resistance, personally

with how fragile you can be as a psyker, something to stop that annoying chip at long range goes a long way imo

[ember sentinel]

Toughness regen speed is no.1 for me

[paper gate]

wait that's a thing

[ember sentinel]

Other than that just whatever damage resistance i can get cause its such a gamble

Yeah you can get toughness regen speed

I usually have it on 2 or all 3 curios

[paper gate]

I have like, 150 hours and I've never seen that

[ember sentinel]

Its a secondary perk not a main one if your thinking its a main

[paper gate]

Oooh, ok, that makes me feel a bit better lol

[spice veldt]

with the caveat that it only affects coherency regen speed

[paper gate]

hey, toughness regen is regen

psykers are so flimsy I'll take what i can get

[golden elbow]

imagine resing the team and then getting voted out 10 seconds later

[void relic]

anyone know what kind of utility the Obscurus force sword has? Compared to the two newer ones it seems fairly weak and underwhelming

[elfin nexus]

nothing basically lol some people still run it because they like the moveset i guess

it does horde clear worse than illisi and single target worse than deimos

[ember sentinel]

Yeah its pretty weak

Im not even sure it horde clears as well as deimos or single target kills as well as illsi

But i could be wrong havent used it in forever

[elfin nexus]

nah deimos would outperform it for sure its horde clear is actually pretty good with slaughterer

[ember sentinel]

Yeah thats what i was wondering

I knew horde clear on deimos was serviceable but ive been running it with surge and its still very good

Just murders everything so fast

[spice veldt]

horde clear is probably similar since both combos involve a sweeping light and sweeping heavy

just with deimos the light spam is more serviceable because the obscurus has the weird 2nd light

[foggy tangle]

are these stats alright for the illisi?

[ember sentinel]

I think thats fine?

Finesse might be a bit low

And im p sure thats not a dump stat

Fine if you have nothing better at least

[foggy tangle]

ya could be higher but it's not super low like the warp resist I guess

[shadow wigeon]

Warp Resist is the dump state

That's a good Illisi base sword

[ember sentinel]

Yeah warp res being low is totally fine

Not neccasary but not bad tbh

Just means more damage esp with warp nexus

Or

Unstable power

Not warp nexus

[ionic frost]

^

[foggy tangle]

rolled uncanny III on it

[shadow wigeon]

Faster peril for Quietitude if you take that route.

[ember sentinel]

🫡

Yeah quietude + illsi is my life force

[shadow wigeon]

@foggy tangle You really want Slaughterer and then... almost whatever you like.

[ember sentinel]

Yeah slaughterer uncanny will be fine tbh

Not optimal

But slaughter makes it so good that you could solo a whole damnation hi int horde on your own

[foggy tangle]

right on guess I'll keep this one and hope I can get slaughterer from another one

guessing the force swords don't share blessings right?

[shadow wigeon]

They do

[ember sentinel]

They do

Its not like the staffs

[foggy tangle]

oh that's sick

[ember sentinel]

What was the other blessing you got?

[foggy tangle]

think I only have deflector/slaughterer on my other one though

[ember sentinel]

Also i run flak/unarmored for perks

[foggy tangle]

I haven't upgraded it that high yet low on mats rn

[ember sentinel]

Ah ok

[foggy tangle]

yea at least I can break it down for slaughterer III

[ember sentinel]

Yeah youll be fine then

If you have t3 slaughterer

[shadow wigeon]

I feel for the vets who spent their life savings chasing PowerCycler

my white whale is BLazing 4 on Trauma

80K plasteel gone

[void relic]

I wish you could exchange diamantine for plasteel. I have over 6k diamantine and no plasteel

[shadow wigeon]

Got 5 T4 blessings while rolling, just none of the ones I wanted. Rough.

[cold geode]

There is no blazing spirit 4

[shadow wigeon]

Nope don’t believe you

That would be too much

[cold geode]

see

[shadow wigeon]

How did you photoshop that so fast

[cold geode]

i take screenshots in game

i can jump into a vox channel and stream it if you like

[shadow wigeon]

Why you gotta do me like this

Well i didn’t get harness or flurry while hunting

But that is the worst news.

[cold geode]

if you grab the "reveal blessings" mod you can see all the mods that you dont have yet in the interface for any weapon

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/138

[long wharf]

a very handy mod

I also like the Penance details one

the auto-reroller is basically mandatory, as well

[cold geode]

yea

[meager cedar]

Some people might find it a little gamey but the True Peril mod is pretty good too

[cold geode]

got that one too

[long wharf]

that one isn't really necessary

[meager cedar]

Way easier to stick to high peril if you know exactly what peril you're at instead of the game giving you an estimate

[long wharf]

just knowing the peril levels of what you're using is fine

the difference between knowing 97.8% client-side versus 96% server-side isn't game changing

[ember sentinel]

Yeah so long as i know when im at 94 percent so i know if i can safely bb or not is all i need

I see the benefit tho

[cyan notch]

i agree

easier to compare and see quell speed benefits too since u can actually see how much each tick does

the fake information from normal peril counter is strictly worse

[long wharf]

by what margin though?

[cyan notch]

serves no purpose except to look better

[long wharf]

it that margin enough to matter when you're just going to actively quell down to a number anyways?

[cyan notch]

yes

[long wharf]

what's the margin?

[cyan notch]

i know quelling from 100 2 ticks with my current quell speed and a full charge will bring me to about 96%

once i see 2 ticks i know im safe to full charge and release without blowing up

[long wharf]

how long is a tick?

[cyan notch]

why does it matter

idk 0.3s or something

[spice veldt]

not having the interpolation makes it a little easier to know the exact values of what I've quelled immediately

I could just practice in the psykanium and learn the quell value of my staff, but that's a mild inconvenience which gets solved by the mod

[void relic]

anyone know the 4 level 4 blessing for purgatus staff?

I have all the blessings except for those 4

[cold geode]

scroll up and click the link for the blessings mod

then you can see everything

[marsh kayak]

yo hows the void staff rn ?? is that shit trash

[cold geode]

works as well as any other staff

purg is still on top, id rank void as 2 or 3 on the list

surge at the bottom for dps but good for its stun

[marsh kayak]

sweet thanks

what feats u running on purg?

[cold geode]

though i doubt its "meta" everyone has their preferences

[marsh kayak]

im trynna go for a bb build

[cold geode]

wrack and wild fire with ascendant blaze seems to be a likely set for that

[shadow wigeon]

I love wildfire but only with Slaughter boost

[cold geode]

might also consider cerebral lacerations

[long wharf]

there's no reason to run Quietitude with Purge staff

you're going to be doing a lot of warp killing

take 1.2 instead of 1.3

and not using Ascendant Blaze when using Purge is.... I don't know how to politely say "absolutely fucking stupid"

for purge setup, I run 211112

[cold geode]

i dont really like the fact that all my charges get expended, and i like having on tap toughness

[long wharf]

Wildfire being limited to moving 4 stacks makes it pointless

[cold geode]

but i see your point

[long wharf]

with purge staff

you're already applying a bunch of soulblaze stacks everywhere

if you ult with 4 warp charges, wildfire will literally do nothing as things die

it's a terrible choice

nevermind that it's competing with Warp Battery

Wrack & Ruin would be better if it proc'd on any BB hit, not just elites and specialists

[cyan notch]

kinetic barrage is never a bad choice

[long wharf]

with purge?

I wouldn't

[cyan notch]

sure up to you but its not "absolutely fucking stupid"

[long wharf]

not taking AB is what I was talking about

that was pretty clear

AB was made for the purge staff

[void relic]

I like Warp Battery. It lets me one shot most elites with brainburst

[cyan notch]

kinetic barrage = not taking ab

[long wharf]

yeah, with the damage buff warp charges got, having 6 stacks means you hit some meaningful breakpoints

my bad, I confused KB with Kinetic Flayer

I get those two confused

[hallow wedge]

Is the purgatus staff's flame considered a warp attack? In regards to it proc'ing Warp Absorption

[long wharf]

yes

[naive junco]

would you consider the melk offer an upgrade to the current one? assuming perk unarmored changed to flak and blessing deflect to UP.

[long wharf]

no

finesse affects attack speed and crit chance

the number may be bigger on the left, but the one on the right will perform better

[naive junco]

but is the 80 finesse extra crit/wp dmg needed for breakpoints? if stuff isnt one shot, itll just take 2. aside from crushers.

for horde clear it wont matter. neither will first target. I'm wondering if the maniac perk on the new one is worth it for losing some finese.

[long wharf]

buy it and play with it, then

[obtuse moth]

Eh, purge by itself makes a lot of space and clears horde, I found kinetic barrage more important for dealing with specials when it comes to shock gauntlet

[long wharf]

except the ult has longer range than purge

goes through walls

wider cone as well

it's the "delete a room on demand" when you need it

[obtuse moth]

The horde isn't the issue when it comes to shock and hi shock, it's the constant flow of disablers

and fire and bombs and poxbursters

[long wharf]

well, purge isn't the best option for disablers anyways

you can't shove every block into the same shaped slot

[obtuse moth]

Which is why kinetic barrage is needed to cover for that weakness

[cloud sequoia]

[north cradle]

Open browser
Look at mission board
Low Intensity
Guess I'll play Halo

[cyan notch]

john halo

[north cradle]

I wish Global Conditions influenced the spawn rate of mutators rather than being the prerequisite

Or just remove Global Conditions and make mutators completely random

[cyan notch]

yup

[long wharf]

difference with purge+AB is that AB gets you back those warp charges

[marsh kayak]

yo kb + psyk aura is kinda smexy tho

[north cradle]

I use it on my Gun Psyker. Super nice.

[marsh kayak]

seems dece w purg cuz u kinda cover all bases

u got ur horde clear+ ur sniper vibe

[obtuse moth]

Honesty with the way I play and feat I get back charges the same no matter what staff I use. You can gain charges after using AB if you stack enough power

[marsh kayak]

and yo maybe im not understanding it but is wildfire just kinda like... useless

like tf that shit do

is ur staff not applying soulblaze

[north cradle]

You can give someone up to four Warpfire stacks who doesn't already have four Warpfire stacks

Yaaaay

Warp Battery lets you actually kill Specialists on Damnation

[obtuse moth]

It lets fire jump from wave to wave, jump from dead bodies, worry about stacks less. It's mostly for non purge staff builds with ab or blazing spirit. If you stack it with warp unleashed slaughterer and unstable power you can make 4 stacks do more damage than six fwiw

[marsh kayak]

so purg build doesnt even really need it lowkey ??

[north cradle]

I use Warp Battery on my Purgatus build

[obtuse moth]

Nope doesn't need wildfire, honestly feels disappointing imo

[north cradle]

If you're using Purgatus, you should be spitting fire on your enemies anyway

Having a feat that adds more Soulfire stacks to a maximum of four feels pointless when you're already shooting fire at everything

[obtuse moth]

Wildfire caps at four, not just transfer cap but if a target has four or more Stacks it can't get wildfire so it doesn't do much on purge staff

[north cradle]

Plus, Warp Battery gives you an extra eight percent damage

312112 is how I run Purgatus

The difference between my Purgatus and my other loadouts is that I swap Ascendant Blaze for Kinetic Barrage

[shadow wigeon]

I have switched to Wildfire with Purg now. It just makes it easier to get warp charges from AB, so I swap Communion for Aura.

4 stack AB's, more frequently, and you can switch to sword to passively get warp charges and WA procs.

Lets you hunt go hunt a mutie/crusher while your wildfire takes care of the horde

[primal plume]

A lot of the fire feats sound cool but are underwhelming in practice

Like wrack and ruin

i dont know why they keep trying to make it work

[shadow wigeon]

Wildfire works with Slaughterer

[cyan notch]

its pretty lame yea

[shadow wigeon]

Nah I prefer it now on Purg

[restive slate]

Warp Battery still most consistent I feel

[cyan notch]

yup

[restive slate]

Perhaps on Purg but that's preference I guess

[shadow wigeon]

I switched back for a few games and I don't like Battery now. Really miss all the benefits of Wildfire. 6 stack blaze doesn't matter hugely when 4 stack kills hordes anyway, and you can do more frequent AB blazes with Aura.
And the passive toughness from wildfire getting kills awhile after you have stopped flaming is nice, particularly since you're in melee be definition. I did miss that with Battery.

I played a lot of fire turret and wanted a more diverse build.

Killing hordes you haven't even seen yet, or haven't spawned yet, or just straight up killing them in their spawn, and get charges/WA off that, is cool.

[restive slate]

Ahhh with Ascendant Blaze, yea that makes more sense then

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah Wildfire is really there to proc warp charges, so you can skip Communion. But it has nice side effects as well.

Keeping Slaughter at max stacks (for longer) without having to attack is an occasional but great benefit

[restive slate]

Suppose its more worth it to build Soulblaze to the max with Wildfire

What about non Purg Soulblaze builds, like the Trauma/Voidstrike/FS Apply Soulblaze Stack on Crit?

[shadow wigeon]

I've tried them all:
FS Soulblaze just doesn't work well, because you need Slaughter. So, best case 10% crit chance. You will apply stacks, and get warp charges, and it does feel neat, but but it's not significant.
Voidstrike Soulblaze also isn't great. It doesn't really apply enough blaze, and doesn't do enough CC, to make switch to your sword make sense.

Fire Trauma does work, and it's really fun, but it's definitely a weaker build than Purg.
Trauma applies a lot of stacks, it's easy to apply stacks, and you've cc'ed everything.
But to make it work well, you do min-charge attacks because you just care about critting. So you're not using Trauma to full potential.

[ashen pilot]

Great Blessings for mk4 force swords?

[shadow wigeon]

But it's fun as hell. Meteor Staff

[shadow wigeon]

Slaughterer, then your pick of Deflector, Unstable

[restive slate]

Fire Trauma vs Rending Trauma?

[ashen pilot]

Whats unstable do?

[north cradle]

More Power at higher Peril

[shadow wigeon]

Fire Trauma is way cooler, but it's more focused on horde clear - which Purg could do better. You feel very cool using it though.

[ashen pilot]

Oh gotcha

Thank you for the help

[restive slate]

If its viable and looks cool, I wanna try it

I assume I'd need crit chance and Warp Nexus? (Cant remember new name)

[north cradle]

I prefer Deflector personally, since Unstable Power is kinda like All or Nothing but more unreliable on Force Swords that aren't Illisi

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah Harness and Blazing

The biggest bummer IMO is that blazing is only 3 stacks

and Wildfire will obv work better with 4

I think that's a real limitation of Wildfire Trauma

[north cradle]

Also Deflector is just cooler

[weary wasp]

Blazing for sword? Utterly useless imao

[restive slate]

Blazing Tier 4 is just 3 stacks?

Havent gotten it yet

[shadow wigeon]

No tier 4 😦

[north cradle]

If you want to be a meme machine, Blazing Spirit + Bloodthirsty on Illisi

[shadow wigeon]

Fire Trauma is a big compromise too giving up Flurry. But it's the most fun staff I've played so far.

I wish there was a way to know when you critted, because I really just want to get 2 applications on and then go to sword.

[north cradle]

Do staves even have a subtle crit indicator the way guns do?

[restive slate]

One thing I liked about VT2, ranged crits had a different colour than the normal shots

[shadow wigeon]

There's no crit indicator. Those are weak spots.

[north cradle]

Ya there are

Lasguns get this jolt of stray energy coursing through the bolt, autogun muzzle flashes are brighter

[restive slate]

Sienna Fireball Staff is yellow but crit shots are red

[shadow wigeon]

This is my Purg build, I used the same for Fire Trauma. But it doesn't click as well.

[shadow wigeon]

Oh I see yeah in game, no in the HUD though

I think bolts you can see a crit...

[restive slate]

Ohh? I dont notice the aesthetic differences for crits in Dartktide

[north cradle]

Yeh there's no reticle indication

[shadow wigeon]

@restive slate If you try Fire Trauma, a few tips - wildfire does not spread from 1 stack only, but ABing with 0 or 1 stack is still useful sometimes, just to get stacks on enemies that you're going to add with a meteor - or, if an ally kills them, you have a chance to proc AB anyway.

With Wildfire one of your goals is just to get as many people on fire as possible, you dont care how many stacks, necessarily.

[north cradle]

White for body shot, yellow for headshot, red for kill, blue for armour or friendly fire. Orange can be done for crits, but being an in-betweener for yellow and red doesn't lend itself to clarity

[restive slate]

Praying for Daddy Melk to give me an Blazing Spirit Trauma

[north cradle]

I need to look at what BattleBit's default hit markers look like, because I remember they had a different and clear colour scheme

I'm probably wrong about that, but my alternative was making green the kill marker and red can be for crits

Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2019 and its consequences have been disastrous to UX

[shadow wigeon]

I switched to green reticle and green for basic hits. Otherwise you can’t even see when you’re hitting with Purg staff….

[north cradle]

Huh I was wrong BattleBit has the same hit marker colours

[trail orbit]

Hey guys does bloodthirsty activate on the first enemy killed when heavy special? If so I would imagine it’s really good to just cleave with a looooooot of crit.

[north cradle]

Pretty sure it makes your entire swing a crit, but I've not had Bloodthirsty as a blessing yet

[cyan notch]

t4 is 4 stacks on fs

[weary wasp]

Crits trigger at start of the swing and can't just transform as far as I know

[north cradle]

Tis why I think Bloodthirsty on Illisi would be hilarious

[restive slate]

mmmiles said no Tier 4 Blazing for Trauma, confirmed?

[cyan notch]

yea on staves its t3 only and its 3 stacks

[restive slate]

Sadge

[cold geode]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/138

this will help you not chase blessings that dont exist

[shadow wigeon]

I think you mean “break my heart and shatter my dreams”

[olive ember]

What’s up my fellow psykers

What have you been doin today

I’ve been getting on Reddit arguments about the fucking eviscerator

[cold geode]

sounds productive

[olive ember]

Yep totally

[shadow wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/onepixel-oop-oopdao-gif-24467949

[olive ember]

Idk typical Reddit takes

People were claiming the eviscerator was the best weapon and I was just like

What universe do you live in

[cold geode]

its the universe where FS cares about iconic weapons being good?

[olive ember]

Lmao

[kind jay]

bloodthirst crits the entire hit

and it's as good as you might imagine

[cold geode]

if you wif the next hit though it eats the charge

[trail orbit]

Hmm what should I pair? Precognition is tempting but idk if it would be as good as it wants to be

[kind jay]

slaughter

precog is trash tier

i use flak+ maniac, slaughter+ blood.

In mixed horde with full stacks your heavy special will one shot every enemy except crushers

[spice veldt]

well not to that extent, but crits are a 1.47x multiplier to the first 3 targets hit, and a 1.15x multiplier to the 4th target hit and beyond (on the illisi special bodyshot)

[olive ember]

Meh I’d just use deflector

Slaughterer gives more than enough damage

Block bullets fun

[spice veldt]

unstable power supremacy

[kind jay]

i do like blocking bullets with my hand. but i also like blocking them with my face while sliding around spamming surge like some kind of crackhead

[cyan notch]

i know a surge guy

[kind jay]

i think i know that guy too

also surge trash pls buff and all that

[olive ember]

^^

Where my 15 target cap

[obtuse moth]

if they gave it six stacks it would instantly work, they just want a cool option thats not actually good or at least too OP

[obtuse moth]

@restive slate void works fine, just quell cancel rapid fire. much easier to proc than trauma. if you're playing with wildfire you roll for a proc then immediately use AB (esp if going for harder targets)
lots of min charge shots work better imo on void than trauma since trauma covers so little area without it unlike void which still explodes even if you dont get the piercing. if you're going for procs its ok to forgo the longer charge. you roll for procs on hordes and charge for harder targets. i like to play it sometimes since it doesnt tie me to chaining flurry

https://youtu.be/kaF6_PMLkgY?t=16

[deft trench]

i assume this is power?

[uneven drift]

Crit chance.

Staffs haven't power blessings.

[limber heath]

i think its actuall that you gain

[meager cedar]

Get them warp gains

[deft trench]

Wait so this is just critical nexus? did they change the name lol?

[uneven drift]

Yes.

[deft trench]

Epic

[uneven drift]

It's warp nexus.

[meager cedar]

Not only did they change the thing that didn't need fixing, they screwed up fixing the thing that needed fixing

God bless em

[kind jay]

Gain between 5% and 20% of your wages garnished based on peril

[cold geode]

what is this, divorce court?

[kind jay]

no, Divorce Court is a blessing that increases how much child support you pay based on peril

[static agate]

Which Perk is good on Trauma staff except for Dmg vs Flak?

[spice veldt]

+unarmoured is nice for hitting the 450 hp breakpoint on dreg bruisers if you're not running warp battery/warp unleashed and/or your damage stat isn't high enough

[static agate]

Will switch out the 8% ranged damage (specialists) for 25% damage vs unarmored then?

[spice veldt]

if you want to reliably one-shot dreg bruisers, go for it

I personally like that even though I run warp unleashed

[slate creek]

based? based on what?

[slate creek]

shit I just scrolled up after posting same crap

[obtuse moth]

its crit chance, its the renamed warp nexus. its still based on current level of peril, that part is fine

[stone prawn]

melk want duel

[kind jay]

melk does seem like the type of guy who would use those

[idle bay]

It's amasek flasks in shape of the weapons

Like this

[ionic needle]

The defense score on the scoreboard mod is so weird

Looking at the numbers the difference isn't that great, and then the aggregated score is almost double on the right?

[idle bay]

So... just stand for a 30 seconds with KD feat blocking hoard or ragers as psyker to get the defese score spyre-high 🙂 if it weights blocks so massively

[crude trout]

what is the dump stat on trauma , again?

[spice veldt]

I personally like damage as my dump stat

you only need enough damage to reach certain breakpoints, and after that it's not too impactful

e.g., if ignoring warp charges and Warp Unleashed, 60% damage (360 damage) is sufficient to one-shot scab stalkers (360 HP) or dreg bruisers (450 HP) with +25% unarmoured

[obtuse moth]

if you're a fire and forget to gain massive peril for quietude toughness, warp resistance. if you run inner tranquility you can have quell speed as the dump since you can just quell by killing things

[crude trout]

thanks for this. Im currently min-maxing my trauma staff and I remembered someone here saying that the difference in killing power between his 60% damage trauma and 80% damage trauma is negligible so thanks for confirming!

[magic burrow]

it's a mod. It's handy to know the stats, but the scores are irrelevant.

[west galleon]

Im still not sure if i want to replace mind in motion for peril blocking

I dont block and it feels so weird to be slow while quelling

[spice veldt]

the usual argument against mind in motion is that you can always dodge while quelling (or if you're particularly fancy, initiate a quell while sliding)
whereas Kinetic Deflection can act as a revive tool if you don't happen to run the trauma staff and whatnot

for me, I don't really need the speed while quelling since dodging sideways or dodge-sliding is sufficient to get out of the way of most attacks (even running attacks), and I can always quell while sliding if I ever need to do it on the run or let passive quell do its thing

[obtuse moth]

iirc you still can't sprint while quelling

so sliding is still optimal

[spice veldt]

yeah, you can't sprint-slide unfortunately

oh I mean like quelling after performing a sprint-slide

not sprint-sliding during a quell

[crude trout]

yeah you could also infini-dodge slide away while quelling using the FS

[spice veldt]

quelling is so fast nowadays

[obtuse moth]

i mean you can't sprint quell with the feat so even with the feat you're limited to walking speed so it doesn't actually make you any faster than slide quelling would

[spice veldt]

though there's the argument for the minor speed boost helping you ever-so-slightly with dodging running attacks

though even that can often be dodged by sideways dodge-slides or even just sideways dodges

the only enemy whose running attack I can't reliably evade with sideways dodges is poxwalkers

those fuckers

sideways dodge-slides tend to work though

[granite dust]

In old Warp Nexus it was 5-20% crit - now i have literally now fcking idea what I get 😄

[obtuse moth]

its just a description change, they would likely have notes for an intended functionality change

[west galleon]

My movement is not optimal since I didnt rebind my slide key

[spice veldt]

I've personally set sprint/dodge to Shift and crouch to C, which makes sliding fairly intuitive for me.
But because my quell is bound to V, it's slightly more finicky to slide and quell at the same time.
still manageable if I just tilt my thumb.

it's particularly annoying on dodge-slides because you need to hold crouch for a moment for a slide to actually start; otherwise your character just ducks down for a moment and pops back up

so I'll have to move my index finger over to hold down C and my thumb on V, but that means giving up the ability to move to the right unless I move my middle finger over to my D key which sure gets complicated

[west galleon]

Thats the stuff i want to avoid

[spice veldt]

if only we could bind actions to multiple keys

so I could do something like having my quell be on mouse5 as well, so that I can more comfortably dodge-slide and quell

I could also create an AHK to remap m5 to my V key though

[obtuse moth]

ye you can macro that legally but its annoying you can't do it in-game

[spice veldt]

aaaaaaa

[orchid nest]

you can maintain pretty good speed doing it if you toss a jump in there. sprint and jump into a quell slide

[obtuse moth]

from a quick test in the meat grinder it doesnt seem like i slide any farther

both slides ended me up around this same spot

actually repeating it more that slide i think i started late, more tests consistently dont even show the far end of the grate

tested on staff and illisi slide, didnt try with just hands

[orchid nest]

what are you testing? mind in motion sliding?

[obtuse moth]

no, just jump into crouch slide vs crouch slide

it didnt seem to take me any farther in terms of the actual crouch slide

[orchid nest]

Oh I see. the sprint jump should get you further just based on maintaining sprint speed while you are in air moreso than the slide itself going further

It's a longer total duration too which is about enough with high quell speed to nearly fully quell. it's questionable in most combat situations but good for keeping pace

[obtuse moth]

if i quell mid-air i immediately lose momentum when i land, and you can't precrouch (at least with hold instead of crouch toggle) and have to activate it after you land or you immediately stop and squat

are you quelling mid jump then stopping quell then crouch sliding into more quell?

[orchid nest]

hitting quell or crouch mid jump before feet touch. timing is kind of weird. it actually doesn't matter which one you do first in practice it works both ways

[obtuse moth]

ah could be a control settings thing, i also have hold to sprint on (it actually can cancel autochains on slower weapons and cause you to spam first attack chain swings)

for me that doesnt work, i have to initiate after

i told my friend about that tech for attack chain canceling and they were unable to do it, later on we surmised it was probably because they have toggle sprint

[orchid nest]

I have toggle sprint on I think so that might be interacting somehow, yeah

it works for me with hold to sprint on but you have to maintain holding sprint instead which makes it a bit more difficult

[obtuse moth]

weird, doesnt work for me, sprint crouch for me is just changing the angle of my pinky so it touches control as well as sprint

[static agate]

Does Harnessing the Warpo (5-20% dmg based on peril) blessing on a staff affect Brain Burst dmg?

[orchid nest]

so this doesn't work? or maybe there is a misunderstanding somewhere

[cyan notch]

no and its crit chance not damage

[static agate]

Oh, it increases crit chance by %

Crit dosnt seem to be so usefull on Trauma staff, Secondary: Body 380 (Unarmoured) -> Critical 437

[cyan notch]

yes

[median valley]

Never seen double crit before

[vagrant hollow]

how often does this blessing even proc?

[median valley]

No idea. First time seeing it. Tempted to grind against work to get it instead of paying diamantine to save for later.

Yeaaahhh options.

Honestly looks like a really cool perk if you have builds for crit with peril, too. I just have to go to work to live et al.

[orchid nest]

tier 2 perk.. thanks hadron

[median valley]

😦

[ornate hamlet]

Death to the Omnissiah.

[spice veldt]

blessings on one weapon do not interact with other weapons unless explicitly stated (e.g., Ogryn's Kickback 'Expansive' and Stub Revolver's 'Point Blank'); they used to, but it was patched out a while ago

[spice veldt]

huh, neat; I'm not at liberty to test this rn, but I've been able to do that w/o the quelling part of it with hold sprint, so I assume that it should work with quelling

[orchid nest]

Yeah it works very well for getting around in general without quelling too since you regen stam while doing it

[obtuse moth]

if i prepress crouch or quell before i land i lose all momentum so the jumping doesnt help at all as opposed to just initiating a sprint crouch slide from the ground

[orchid nest]

That's weird, I'm not sure why it would do that.

[spice veldt]

i lied; I can indeed test it

it works for me with hold sprint

sprint -> jump -> hold crouch and quell

damn what a banger tech

[orchid nest]

yeah you can activate fs special while sprinting before doing it too without it stopping the sprint

if you have quietitude

it's kind of finicky though if you try doing the fs special too soon after initiating sprint

[spice veldt]

oh wait hmm I think I'm running into the issue that noth was describing

it only happens if I use my mouse5 to quell instead of my V (rebound mouse5 to V with AHK)

maybe I'm pressing another button

[orchid nest]

it works every time for me, I have crouch on alt and quell on r. maybe some keybinds cause it to have weird behavior

[spice veldt]

and the problem has now disappeared 🤔

[obtuse moth]

i tested again, looks like you have to hold crouch pretty early for it to go off.

[orchid nest]

oh yeah you can hold crouch or quell basically immediately after you jump

[obtuse moth]

still testing to see if its consistent with staff, im losing momentum sometimes but not always

also it seems like it is quelling without doing the animation now

[orchid nest]

it's much easier like that for sure, don't try to time the slide with hitting the ground just hold it right away mid air

[obtuse moth]

wait now im getting the sitting on the ground again lmao

[spice veldt]

i figured out the issue

it's the mouse movement

if you move your mouse even a little to the side, you lose momentum while holding W it seems?

[obtuse moth]

if im trying to actually consistently do the slide from the same starting point to compare the distance

[spice veldt]

nvm it's not holding W since you just lose momentum

[orchid nest]

Oh yeah, right. I forgot about that, you have to stay straight while initiating it but you can turn the mouse while sliding

[obtuse moth]

hmm then its going to be too inconsistent for me. the empower animation cancel jump quell slide compresses a lot though for quietitude

[orchid nest]

It's cool for getting around while getting toughness back and not falling behind but you'll be better off just doing spam slides in combat anyways

vs shooters or dodge slides when needed

[obtuse moth]

you underestimate how often i have to kite without toughness while people are dead, downed or disabled

[orchid nest]

Haha. I suppose so. It can maintain distance if you already have it for sure. Just poxwalkers and their insane teleport across the world melee tracking will still get you if somewhat nearby

[obtuse moth]

thats fine its not a distance keeping option, its a generating toughness while moving at a good speed option

[orchid nest]

yeah

[obtuse moth]

you always have to watch your back/side

[orchid nest]

you can pan the camera pretty effectively while sliding during it too to quickly check your rear

[obtuse moth]

my mouse settings aren't sensitive enough to do full 180s from center comfortably and i get motion sickness XD

[orchid nest]

damn. well, here is an example.

[obtuse moth]

whats your fov set to? it feels fish-eye like

[orchid nest]

yeah it is slightly, let me check

115/83

[obtuse moth]

that would track, i have 113/65 on ultrawide

you've gotta fit a wider view in a smaller box

[orchid nest]

Yeah this is on a regular 27 inch 1440p. I'd like to get an ultrawide, maybe after upgrading soon. pushing the 1070 a bit far here

[obtuse moth]

if you get a 1080 ultrawide itd be less intensive fwiw

be warned you need much larger diagonal sizes for ultrawides to keep a same size feeling monitor

you have to match the vertical height, not the diagonal or horizontal

a 27" ultrawide will feel very tiny in comparison

its like a conventional 21.8 inch in height, but with extra on the sides

[orchid nest]

yeah. I'm going to be going from a 1070 to a 4080 or 4090 if I really want a better monitor next month here. haven't really decided yet. don't really want to buy in right now tbh but this computer is ancient and not lasting much longer here

[obtuse moth]

big upgrade. congrats!

[orchid nest]

hell yeah. darktide will look decent finally. a struggle right now to stay at like 40 fps in a mission even with the upscaling

[obtuse moth]

there are potato setting presets in nexus mods fwiw, and FSR 1.0 and 2.0 should work on your card if you aren't using it already. fsr 1 will have more performance increases but look worse

[orchid nest]

I haven't tried those mods yet, I do have FSR on though

[obtuse moth]

just be careful with one of the settings, it disables the obvious fire effect from bomber fires (but weirdly don't think it affected barrel fires????). i can't remember which one my friend told me it is

[orchid nest]

damn lmao yeah that would suck

[ornate hamlet]

Give Obscurus Sword a cleaving light attack when Warp-charged, ples

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/12yhkzg/dogs_are_fixed_guys/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

[kind jay]

will never happen, illisi exists

[rich rose]

I'm using a AOC C32G2ZE 32" for a few months now

[ornate hamlet]

That's why I said it in the first place - make the Obscurus a mix between the two with this Warp attack.

[restive slate]

So for Duelling Sword, Shred, Rampage or Uncanny Strike?

[ember hornet]

I can do ultrawide with all high, RTX off, DLSS and frame gen on, and always have constant 150 fps with a 4090

it's nice

would recommend

(even though the game should not run like shit for no reason)

[static agate]

Not the best trauma staff, but its one of my most fun ones

Just need to get a Illisis with soulfire on crit + 100% crit chance on special attack to fullfill my Fire Wizard loadout haha

[granite dust]

Hivemind - any idea how to make this penance with randoms? I've try 3rd week already with no luck ... Damnation level with [^] extra enemies?

[static agate]

Dont use randoms xD

[obtuse moth]

theres a specific mission where shotgunners always spawn after every hack

in the back they come up these stairs

[granite dust]

u mean this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPuomcGXrns

[obtuse moth]

cant watch rn, hack is opposite where they spawn

and theres a medicae on the side

[granite dust]

@obtuse moth - thanks man, i think it's Complex from this video.

[obtuse moth]

if you give them a whiff with the fire staff its easy to damage them a bit

also having more warp charges i think helps with the explosion damaeg

its also possible to do on plasma gun still. fastest way to explode is to hold down right click on G mode then shoot a staff shot or empower a force sword

[olive ember]

fuck... >.>

[static agate]

Your currently equiped is better cause it has Slaughterer

Dont think its worth buying it from Melk for Shred

[olive ember]

Meh I bought it

also I just replaced shred with slaughterer anyways

[static agate]

ok

[gloomy gulch]

My first 380 in a while and it's a headhunter on my psyker lol

[granite dust]

@obtuse moth - my idea is to run with build :

1-1-1-1-3-3

Kinetic Defletion + Sword (Deflector) to gain at passive as much peril as I can for explosion - ever from Shotgunners

[obtuse moth]

the most important thing is to just hit them with a bit of damage to guarantee the kil

idk how much damage you need on non damnation difficulties,

looks like if youre this far on malic it'll take out ~80% but if you stand between the two pictured it kills them from full

so if theyre not grouped or you're not point blank you'll need to damage them a bit

[granite dust]

good point

[ionic needle]

Yeah, I know, but it's still weird

[obtuse moth]

it cares about irrelvant stats like blocking and relevant stats like health stations

[leaden thunder]

blocking is nice to look at for your self

see if block stuff is worth it for you or not

I am unsure if it counts deflector hits as blocks tho

[karmic copper]

it does not count deflector as blocks

i run deflector almost every run, and i had the mod running for 2~ weeks, and my blocked attacks were always like, less than a dozen. everyones were actually surprisingly

els it would have been hundreds

[arctic condor]

I just started a psker character, what feats should I take and what's the general way to play the class?

[kind jay]

majority of attacks get interrupted by push. most people don't actually wait out attacks. i think most blocking comes from rezzing

and yeah it doesn't count bullets

just fatshark things

[halcyon creek]

You’re a back-liner, and your Brain Burst is good single-target ranged damage already. While leveling, I’d suggest using whatever you can get that’s strong, even if it’s guns.

You’re gonna want something that’s good horde-clear, whether it’s an autogun or a melee weapon with horizontal cuts

Meanwhile, learn what the staves do (stun/cc mostly) and generally learn how close you can edge your Peril

You don’t have a grenade to deal with hordespam, so you are gonna struggle if you’re surrounded by poxies. Stick to the walls and use choke points to mitigate the danger

[viral inlet]

early on just use whatever the game gives you, proper builds honestly come around 25-30
as for picking your blessings, just go on games lantern and/or steam guides and see what people are suggesting

[obtuse moth]

sure but its irrelevant score-wise

[obtuse moth]

save your F for when you make a mistake, it can stop you from blowing up

later on you can be more aggresive with using your F skill, esp with level 30 feats

[river sand]

while leveling psyker will be quite shitty. for first row your weapon is important, you run a staff ? you can go quietude or warp absorbtion with a gun harvest is best. second talent is warp unleashed as long as you dont go trauma staff with flurry, that one really shines with inner tranquility. for nearly all builds you cant go wrong with the frist talent for the next 3 rows. last talent depends on weapon again. AB for purg your funny crit/blazing spirit builds. or kinetic barrage for the quick bb's. You are NOT a backliner like logoriel said. you are a melee/ close ranged power house that is far more durable than it looks. with voidstrike you can sit back and nuke stuff but it does the same dmg at point blank so go for it ... just kill everything

[ember hornet]

leveling psyker is ez mode, you have BB

[river sand]

dont bb too much

[ember hornet]

if you are leveling it's basically the same scale as when you are 30 minus a couple feats

so you can be useful on heresy at level 1

[lucid terrace]

Idk, if you BB a lot ingame, you learn how to BB in real life

[river sand]

bb is a situational tool. good for bullwarks or a sniper far away and for maintaining your stacks. its not your main source of anything

[ember hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-grodd-gif-18039385

look we are talking about leveling

BB is strong

[lucid terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/charles-xavier-professor-x-gif-25676579

[ember hornet]

don't spam it for everything all the time sure

[river sand]

as soon as you hit lvl 15, bb to get your stacks at the beginning then only when needed. nearly every weapon (even the low lvl ones) are more usefull than bb most of the time

[near wyvern]

Psykers start weak and scale into absolute monsters at higher levels. It's the glass cannon class so learning the defensive maneuvers such as sprint sliding, dodge sliding and learning to react to the incoming ranged and melee attack sounds are key for the highest difficulty missions. You should always prioritize not getting hit as a psyker. On harder difficulties you can afford to take 1 hit if you have a full toughness bar but any more than that in quick succession will get you downed in a blink. Psykers have the shortest stamina regeneration delay and they can literally stand within horde and be fine if you have the skills for it, but it's not something you should seek for.

When you level up you should use guns. You can play around with the feats but the most useful line to unlock as you go is the 1 build, that is you pick the top feat for everything. It's a feat set that works well with whatever you bring with you.

The staves are ass with the low stats. Once you get to around 20ish, if you are already familiar with Damnation you can grab a Purgatus and start clearing that. If not, continue with guns and whatever diff you do well.

The new force swords (Illisi and Deimos) are great and the old one (Obscurus) is made obsolete by them. Illisi (Horde clear) and Deimos (Single target) are the best melee weapons there exists for psykers at the moment. They have infinite dodges, specializes in one role but is good in the other as well.

At level 25 you can change into 11213 if you have a fast firerate gun and at 30 you have many builds to choose from. Currently the feats you should avoid are:

• warp absoption (hard to proc when you need it the most)
• wrack and ruin (contesting for targets that need to be killed fast with a slow attack)
• mind in motion (just quell with staff or let passive quell happen)
• wildfire (bugged, not functioning properly)

All other feats are very usable given the right weapons and the right builds.

[ember hornet]

hardly a glass cannon class when they get 2 of the strongest melee weapons with infinite dodges, but I suppose you blow up quickly if you mess up

[near wyvern]

That's my point, you let enemies touch you at Damnation and you are done

But you are given all the tools to not let that happen

[ember hornet]

that's why I run all toughness + toughness DR feat on psyker

but I'm also a toughness stan for every class

[river sand]

you have low health and toughness, but unlimited dodge and the second strongest block so learn the mechanic and jump in

[obtuse moth]

toughness on vet sucks when running grims

[cyan notch]

whenever i see gameplay of people with full toughness theyre always missing half their health

so like idk how much its actually doing

[ember hornet]

on zealot I don't care cause I like losing health and living with attack speed

and there's always a medicae by the time you need it, or until death refreshes

[leaden thunder]

I run 2 tough 1 hp on psyker and also take that feat

feels pretty decent

[ember hornet]

yeah that's a good setup

[river sand]

more than 1 toughness curio is waste

[ember hornet]

less than 2 toughness curios is a waste

[leaden thunder]

the duality of man

[river sand]

as long you can take a full burst without breaking toughness everything is fine

[near wyvern]

I run stamina

[obtuse moth]

fwiw tou can also run 2 hp 1tough and 3 minor tough adding up to one tough basically

[cyan notch]

the only toughness id run is the +5% in every curio slot

[near wyvern]

Except for psyker I have stamina, wound toughness just because snipers are a bitch

[ember hornet]

so that would be about 140 toughness on damnation during normal gameplay with sliding and 2-3 shooters hitting you

[river sand]

imo best is 2x health paired with either health, stamina, toughness

[obtuse moth]

it works better than health on minors since its 5% on both health and toughness and you get more health % when its on major

[ember hornet]

I would never really run health on any class except for maybe 1 with grims

[river sand]

health helps you with grimoires as well

[graceful eagle]

just find pack of ragers and blow them up, i did it with randoms on second try

[cyan notch]

eat 1 snipe and u have 1hp

[ember hornet]

I just duo queued and restarted missions until there was a pack of ragers at the beginning

[obtuse moth]

i generally care less about toughness than toughness regen

[ember hornet]

toughness regen probably good on everything except zealot

[river sand]

its enough when you can withstand 1 stalker burst since the nerf that is 0 toughness curios

[ember hornet]

toughness regens and mitigates all health damage, that's why it's clear winner in all scenarios except grims

[river sand]

when you get hit from several shooters at the same time you're doing something wrong 😉

[ember hornet]

lmao

yes multiple trash shooters never ever shoot you when sliding

[near wyvern]

Just click heads ez game comment time

[ember hornet]

what do you play in the back the whole game or something

[cyan notch]

except poxbursters and bonbon and snipers and fire and flamers and bombers

[obtuse moth]

toughness regen double dips because it reduces delay AND increases speed

[near wyvern]

Stamina regen for the win

[river sand]

its has been proven enough that running full toughness isnt the way to go. no need to bring up that disussion again

[ember hornet]

proven by what

wrong people?

(unless grims)

[lethal folio]

You can't say proven with nothing to back it up.

[leaden thunder]

bring what ever makes you die the least

[near wyvern]

Proof

[cyan notch]

cheats

[leaden thunder]

that's how you pick curios

[ember hornet]

I'll agree 1 HP is pretty good

on psyker

and maybe vet

and 1 on zealot for grims

but that's it

[near wyvern]

You only bring 1 HP? Daung, I bring 150

[ember hornet]

lol

[near wyvern]

Madlad

[leaden thunder]

only the last one matters

[near wyvern]

True

[ember hornet]

I am spoiled by zealot passive

letting me die every 90 seconds without punishment

[near wyvern]

I saw a zealot from snowflake city today. Came into damnation hi with 3 wound curios and rage quit after they were all used.

[ember hornet]

jesus

[leaden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[ember hornet]

3 wound curios

[cyan notch]

all im sayin all the gameplay ive seen of people running full toughess on psyker they have half their health missing (in sniper 1hko range) a lot of the time so iono how well it actually mitigates health damage

[ember hornet]

tbf I'm not playing psyker like psyker

[near wyvern]

Sniper ignores toughness

If I recall

[ember hornet]

I'm playing it as a broken illisi user

[ember hornet]

not technically true but practically true unless you play vet

they do like 1250 toughness damage

vet can eat that with toughness

[near wyvern]

During volley fire I presume?

[ember hornet]

yeah

[median valley]

-- +3 wounds
-- blames team
-- leaves
-- predictable

[cyan notch]

yea ik im saying theyre running around in 1 shot range with 80hp and 150 toughness or something so idk how effective toughness is in helping them

[median valley]

Having a tough time with my psyker toughness build, but also I'm half-cut and doing "my best" after running plasma vet since the patch.

[ember hornet]

vet can have up to 2200 toughness with volley fire, a zealot, and toughness DR feat in first column

[median valley]

hoooly schnitzel

[ember hornet]

yeah, it's why autopistol/brauto vet is so busted