psyker-class

[shy crag]

though i recently got a t4 brittleness trauma staff and ive been cheating on my soulblaze trauma with that lately

[shadow wigeon]

Blazing on the weapon adds a LITTLE bit of fire. I removed it, and it was noticeable.

[shy crag]

we've been separated at birth evidently. Well, apart from the lvl 15 trait.

[shadow wigeon]

If you want to fully embrace the fire, cast off your shackles

TBF Communion is more reliable, but Aura is really fun. You don't reallycare about always getting 4 stack AB's off. You just want to have a blaze stack on every enemy

so that every kill procs AB, and sets them up for more fire.

It's stronger to always have 4 stack, but with Aura you get to AB more often.

[shy crag]

im a little bit shackled by warp charge paranoia, bit sentimental over psychic communion for the 4% warp charge chance on every kill

[still apex]

man... slaughter is so good

[ember sentinel]

Yeah slaughterer pretty insane

[still apex]

i keep trying to make good swords without it but...

[shadow wigeon]

Let the flames embrace you. The warp charges will be there.

[shy crag]

yeah i can see the logic of it, certainly worth trying out.

[shadow wigeon]

I tried it without Blazing on sword, and I did miss out. It's a good way to restart a fire, or when you didn't apply enough stacks.

[shy crag]

problem is paying attention during the heat of the game to actually notice when things are working properly or better than before, some things can be obvious but others can be subtle.

[shadow wigeon]

This isn't a stronger build, but it is incredibly fun to get to use Trauma while also lighting the whole map.

I've used it on everything but hi shock so far

[shy crag]

rarely find shock troop games

[shadow wigeon]

Ragers and Shotgunners are the biggest weakness. No Flurry means it can be a challenge to stagger them in a pinch, and w/o KB BBing them is slow

[shy crag]

if im being honest i do also tend to avoid them, weekly mission pressure

[shadow wigeon]

They're very hard, that's fair

This is the most fun build I've had on Psyker. Decided to really plumb the depths of theory crafting this week.

[shy crag]

yeah i agree, its a lot of fun

have you gotten that brittleness blessing yet

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, I've got just about every build there is now. Missing a handful of T4's

[shy crag]

turns ogryns so damn squishy

[shadow wigeon]

I may try it again, but I just love the fire and cc

[shy crag]

i really wish they'd fix that double strike on crit blessing as well, so it worked on secondary attacks, imagine how much fun that would be.

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah. I've been fishing for Blazing 4 all day (never played Trauma before really) and caught Surge and barrage instead. Surge is a bummer.

Surge has some ok effects on Void, but it's kind of a gimmick.

[still apex]

wimpy staff users...

[shadow wigeon]

30K of plasteel spent today chasing Blazing 4...

[still apex]

give me my Defelctor 5 you bastard game

who was bad mouthing Deflector??

[fallow falcon]

BRUH

[still apex]

well, now you know which Blessing to replace

[fallow falcon]

Perfect stats and the game gives me this

[still apex]

you never know... you may get a good skill when upgrading...

i mean... you won't because this crafting system is dogwater... but you might

[fallow falcon]

Just give me deflector or slaughterer 4

Come on

[ember sentinel]

That is unfortunate

Bricked a perfect roll 😭

[ornate hamlet]

That 15% infested with 1 stamina shoulda been a clue

[magic chasm]

Got a gifted purg staff with 15% cone radius, so it's awesome in an area about the size of a melon

[cyan portal]

rank of deflector doesn't really matter, either you can block ranged or you can't. I'll happily run a better stated sword with a lower rank of deflector than a max rank deflector with worse stats.

[ornate mason]

ez clear

[ornate hamlet]

No slaughterer for ez hordes

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-emoji-disintegrating-emoji-disappearing-meme-21st-century-gif-24891417

Someone delete that fucking blessing

[sour bison]

gain what?

[hollow creek]

%

[fallow falcon]

Why is this even allowed?

Here, let me just fuck up your perfect stat 380

Go run 3 damnation games so I can fuck up another, varlet

[stable silo]

@sour bison gain between 4% and 16% based on current level of peril. It's very clear whats confusing about it?

[ornate hamlet]

Based on what?

[sour bison]

very based

gets between 4% and 16% more based

[shadow wigeon]

That's miserable. I just rolled 2 T1's on 2 375+ too. Brutal.

[fallow meadow]

You get more % of the void

[void arch]

How does bloodthirsty work? Is it like 100% crit for next attack?

[still apex]

hmmm... current sword is slaughter/Defelctor... can Slaughter get serious buffs from higher tier blessings?

[void arch]

Dunno, that’s what my sword is too

Just interested

Only slaughter 2 but we make do

[still apex]

same... i have a rough time getting Slaughter to drop

[shadow wigeon]

If you kill something with a charged attack, your next attack will be a guaranteed crit. It's strong on something like Deimos, which hits hard.
On Illisi it's not so great.

[shadow wigeon]

Slaughterer is 7.5/10/12.5/15% x 5 stacks each. Even Slaughter 2 is very strong.

[void arch]

Just 1 hit? The next one?

Bangin, need to farm it

[restive slate]

What does Harnessing the Warp do?

[shadow wigeon]

Increase crit chance

[silk breach]

whats the general opinion on psyker penances cause i feel "going out with a bang" and "malleus monstronum" are a bit much could be a skill issue but id like to hear what everyone thinks

[restive slate]

Thanks, the updated ui is missing that

[shadow wigeon]

You need a team for those 2. Bang is possible to get if you are lucky but very hard in a pub group.

Malleus is impossible unless your team is working with you.

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, just the next one. So you could chain them - charge, kill, charge, kill - all crits. It’s a little hard to use in practice though.

[shadow wigeon]

They renamed Warp Nexus, and managed to goof it up.

[restive slate]

Derpshark moment

[long wharf]

why did they rename Warp Nexus?

[agile latch]

anybody on gamepass wana help a mans get Malleus Monstronum penance?

[fallow meadow]

I guess they are planning to add new blessing?

[fallow meadow]

You should ask that on the vox channel

[agile latch]

ah thank ye @fallow meadow

[primal plume]

Is crit any good on purgatus or is it a wasted blessing

[cyan notch]

crit chance is good

[fallen lily]

Actually enjoying this build. Staff could be better though. Full focus is on chaining full powered lightning.

[vital compass]

misery

[shadow wigeon]

Replace run n gun with just about anything. Harness the Warp if you have it, or Focused if you find yourself getting hit

Warp Flurry 4 A+

[fallen lily]

Yeah, looking to get tier 4 or 3 Harness.

Or any tier I guess for that matter.

[dusk sierra]

👀 swap out stamina but dang, blessings pretty good?

[twin pond]

blazing spirit for unstable power

[fallow falcon]

tbh I'd replace the crit damage instead

I doubt that you'll ever notice a crit doing 6% more damage

[dusk sierra]

fair, was thinking crit to proc more blazing spirit

just soulblaze everything

[twin pond]

crit chance > crit dmg, in that case

[fallow falcon]

If it was crit chance, sure, but unless you build for crit chance its moot either way

[twin pond]

but, blazing spirit is trash

[fallow falcon]

You're relying on the base 5% chance

[dusk sierra]

aah

I thought it said chance

tbh

lmao

so drop blazing spirit for unstable? I'll look for a 3/4

[fallow falcon]

Either that or deflector if you value the flexibility

BS is great for raw power

Easy to maintain on ilisi too

Debating on getting this laspistol for the blessing, any thoughts?

[shadow wigeon]

Blazing Spirit can be fun, but requires T4 to do anything.

[magic burrow]

I mean, what else are you going to use melkbucks for?

[fallow falcon]

Good point

[shadow wigeon]

If you’re swimming in milkbucks, sure. But I wouldn’t rush for it. You have so many ways to manage toughness as a psyker.

[fallow falcon]

I mainly just want a ghost/RA laspistol so I can swap between force sword and laspistol on shooters

Do some jedi bullshit instead of spamming shredder every game

I figure dumdum or RA are idea secondary perks

One keeps your toughness going against shooters, the other for a little extra damage

Probably better on vet either way thanks to deadshot

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah with duck and dive you can do some fun things with Laspistol - run around, gain stamina for deadshot while you crit.

[barren lintel]

theres a spot to get bang for free now

you just need a vet with team volley and comms plex throneside. At the church, wait for the 5 shotgunners or gunners to spawn and come up the stairs, catch them there and boom, instant win

[digital loom]

i do love dabbing on people who like to melee hordes as psyker

its a great feeling

[cyan notch]

who

[quiet galleon]

worth the melkbucks?

[cyan notch]

absolutely

almost god roll there

[summer prairie]

Probably never going to get a better one

[quiet galleon]

guess i'll be playing purg today

[spiral kayak]

what the blessing do anyway

[quiet galleon]

its the renamed warp nexus

[spiral kayak]

oh

bruh

[quiet galleon]

yeah they renamed it while making the description worse

[spiral kayak]

they forgot to write crit

[summer prairie]

It's probably there but it's some reference that's not working, maybe because it's in a different dev branch

[runic python]

Does it get better than this?

[spiral kayak]

damn

[runic python]

nice

[static agate]

You should have Soul Blaze blessing with Bloodthirsty, awesome combo

Makes the ilisis into a god damn magical fire sword

[near wyvern]

It's really not. Stuff dies too fast for the Blaze to do anything.

You are better of by just using Slaugherer and heavy heavy, more DPS

Maybe when they fix wildfire so it doesn't go out by itself but until then, nope.

[static agate]

Eh, I didnt mean it from a DPS point of view. More from a "Thats god damn cool" viewpoint

[late yew]

we only talk about efficiency

[lucid olive]

how important is blast radius?

or is surge lacklustre anyway?

[fallow meadow]

Void don't do much blast damage. It is mostly for the CC

[summer prairie]

blast radius isn't important and surge can be pretty good with quell cancel, especially if you want to switch between melee/bb/void a lot

[digital loom]

i have an illisi with this, it works but why not just kill them straight away or use a staff

[tulip drum]

what kind of perks should I be looking for for Illisi? flak + unarmored?

[dire coral]

when looking for a trauma staff, i guess the blessings would be flurry and nexus, right?

since the rending blessing doesn't do anything to your dmg, but allies

and sustanined is just there for the bolt

[summer prairie]

Crits only do 15% more damage and usually don't matter

[dire coral]

nvm, i forget that i can just check on the blessings on lantern.

[ornate hamlet]

whatever you want tbh since its really strong, but flak is a good choice for vast majority of weapons
more damage vs poxwalkers/groaners or infested is alrght since it will help with horde clearing too

[fallow meadow]

Blaze crit build trauma sounds nice to see.

I like a good firework show

[ornate hamlet]

and then +maniac is always good too annihilate specials

[spice veldt]

Rending is nice if you ever get a flamer comp and for your team to kill crushers ever so slightly faster; not that it's particularly important on the Trauma staff since they can be consistently staggered, but it is a nice thing to have. I value it much more than crits which are inconsistent and have an extremely terrible crit damage multiplier on the trauma staff.

[ionic needle]

Decided to log on my zealot and get an autopistol just because it's fun to play with

Got this on my second buy from Brunt

Shared inventory when, Fatshark?

[vestal raven]

i should get this huh

Compared to this i guess not

[primal plume]

that crit bonus lmfao

[fallow dawn]

??

[wintry plover]

That's renamed warp nexus.

[crude trout]

any way to cheese the 90% of monstrosity as brain burst?

[olive ember]

comon don't you guys like gaining between 4% and 16%

[ornate hamlet]

Hmmm...

Which Curio should I focus for "melee" Psyker?

Health or Toughness? (Wounds may or may not be there)

[olive ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[restive slate]

What's the bis for Duelling Swords?

[ornate hamlet]

Get a shield ogryn to hold a DH in a corner

[olive ember]

BTW is purge staff supposed to push the dog off someone

[near wyvern]

Yes. Either have a shield ogryn or another psyker tank the Daemonhost or cheese solo beast of nurgle with a ladder. In any case you need your team to let you have it since they gotta baby sit the thing for special spawns.

If you go the ladder way you can do a private game with 1 other person, let the bots die and hope for nurgle spawn.

The other person can then baby sit for specials

[near wyvern]

No idea since I don't know what the stagger value of a mounted dog is, your best bet is LMB since it does more stagger than RMB

[near wyvern]

Stamina

[spice veldt]

I like my toughness

[near wyvern]

Stamina so you can sprint more

[spice veldt]

since melee enemies aren't a threat anyways because of infinite dodges and if you just sideways dodge

[near wyvern]

And reduced peril block cost

[spice veldt]

so you usually don't take too many hits in rapid succession

and more toughness makes it better for hit-trades IMO

[vestal raven]

i guess since it has a ton of stagger

[spice veldt]

I stack sprint eff for that sweet sweet cardio

[olive ember]

Alright

Since I just had an assassination mission

where a dog pounced me right infront of a purge staff psyker

and he just held rmb at the dog and let the dog put me down to 2/3 hp

[crude trout]

ladder?

[near wyvern]

Monstrosities cannot climb and nurgle is slow AF so if you have a ladder and go up / down the madde you can make the nurgle to run around since it hast to take the long route without any climbing

[ornate hamlet]

I just have an idea for this Curio build

"Incorruptible"

Basically, stack as many Corruption Resistances (Grimoire or normal) as you possibly can.

[cyan notch]

theres a freezestun cheese for bonbon

u guys might have seen it in your games

[magic burrow]

bonbon?

[leaden thunder]

beast of nurgle

[hearty python]

@ornate hamlet I had 2 curios with 20% grim resist and a 15% general, less than 1/4 health lost in corruption with 2 grims was great, I think I accidentally sold one if the 20%s though 😦

[ornate hamlet]

Oof

Anyway, I'm gonna work on them

[hearty python]

@crude trout shield ogryn and DH is how I did mine

[void mural]

A while back I had a beast of nurgle just straight up leave through a spawn door while we were fighting it. We stood around for about thirty second while the boss music was still playing, all going "wtf", then it came out of a different door near us and we killed it

[near wyvern]

The target for nurgle was probably inaccessible without climbing from that area so it went back into the teleporter to reach the target

[olive ember]

someones been hanging out in zealot chat too much... bonbon

smh

hes gonna start saying flakiac soon too

[cyan notch]

no i came up with bonbon

the hell

[olive ember]

lies

wheres the proof

the patent

[prisma condor]

Gain what?

[olive ember]

crit chance

its just warp nexus

but renamed

and with shit tool tip

[cyan notch]

gain between 3 and 12% chance every patch will randomly change blessing names and have bad tooltips

[prisma condor]

Random 3-12%? Didn't that had charges with something to increase the chance

[cyan notch]

3% per 20 peril

stacks 4 times

[worthy moon]

Let me see your best rolled weapons so I become envious and want to grind immediately

[prisma condor]

Well that's one way to "fix" text that's broken

This is my best and I rolled it on psyker for book runs

[worthy moon]

https://tenor.com/view/toddlers-and-tiaras-big-grin-excited-girl-giddy-smile-gif-25584914

I’m tempted to try the shredder as my second build

Not sure between that and trauma

[prisma condor]

It's fun for deleting specials and elites and save time

If you pair it with good rapier or force sword for dealing with horde

[near wyvern]

Rapier?

Wrong game mate

And all duelling swords are outclassed by Deimos

If that's what you ment

[spice veldt]

and not being at all good at dealing with the horde

[olive ember]

fucking deimos

ew

[restive slate]

If I were to put some love into Duelling Swords, what blessings should I look for?

[cyan notch]

i like shred uncanny

[magic burrow]

deimos is goat

[cyan notch]

rampage uncanny not bad too

[restive slate]

Does rampage trigger? I've not seen the buff appear

[cyan notch]

push attack yea

[leaden thunder]

you need to push attack for it to proc

I beleive that is the only attack it has that can

[restive slate]

Thats kinda silly haha

[cyan notch]

its not too bad once youre aware of it

push attack is great to throw in every few hits anyway

[restive slate]

Is there a particular duelling sword that works better than others?

I like the mk IV simple lights

[cyan notch]

mkv has the strongest heavies for single target and most mobility

a bit less damage on lights but thats fine

[prisma condor]

I use mk4 duelling sword and it's very easy to use for horde

[ornate hamlet]

Mk4 has better lights and infested damage, Mk5 has better heavies

Mk2 doesn't exist

[worthy moon]

So Demios is the best wave clear? Might go for that next and see if I hit the lotto on main weapon along the way

what is the best 'thing' to do to farm materials?

and is this any good?

[magic burrow]

Ilisi is for cleave. Deimos is for single target stabs.

Deimos is pretty underrated

Just consider your main weapon and if it can deal with hordes well. If you keep getting overrun, you take the Ilisi. If your main weapon already deals with hordes pretty well, you don't need the Ilisi, and the Deimos becomes a good pick for its stabs and high damage output.

[worthy moon]

I am guessing that it isn't great because of blast radius

[void mural]

Nah, we were all on the same level as the beast of nurgle. We were all relatively near it and chased after it to damage it while it was running away

[olive ember]

Fuck the deimos

Ewwww

My obscures ;-;

[near wyvern]

No, Illisi is best wave clear, Deimos is just better at it than any duelling sword

[near wyvern]

Poop radius, worth it for the flurry 4 if you have the coin

[near wyvern]

Obscurus is currently out classed by Deimos

[worthy moon]

I didn’t realise you have to sacrifice the blessing on every different staff 😂 I thought it would be applicable to all staves

[primal plume]

How does the penetration on voidstrike work?

[late yew]

speaking of void

i've seen a couple fun looking psykers spamming void like crazy

they using nexus and surge, right?

they were not charging the staff at all

[olive ember]

shush

Obscures is meta in my heart

[late yew]

and seemed to have really high damage

[late yew]

Future is now, old man

[olive ember]

thats a macro

if they aren't charging at all its probably a macro

[late yew]

degenerates

[olive ember]

i forget how much dmg it is but its probably a nexus + surge or blazing spirit

[late yew]

which of the 2 better?

[worn cypress]

there's an anim cancelling trick for void spam

that they might be using too

transfer peril is usually mandatory for rapid fire spam tho

[idle bay]

After a significant break i took my Vet for a few missions with updated Plasma Gun.
Now i want the staff that does exactly the same on Psyker 🙂

If reloading completely removed from Plasma Gun - Vet plays almost exactly like a Psyker

Only missing the BB

[olive ember]

eh

they are both kinda meh

[long wharf]

the Plasgun is the only gun I enjoy using on the Veteran

but using it just makes me miss playing my psyker

[fierce lantern]

is wildfire any good? im having trouble gauging its efficacy. 2 more warp charges sound better imo

[ionic needle]

2 warp charges is better

[left basin]

any point in blazing spirit?

[ionic needle]

I heard it can be kind of good on a crit trauma staff, no?

[leaden thunder]

ye

it's a bit of a niche build, but some of the people on here have great success with it

[civic jungle]

I really enjoying blazing spirit on trauma staff

I have no idea if it actually does anything relevant in terms of killing things, but it builds warp charges really nicely with the blaze tier 30 feat

[leaden thunder]

if you have warp nexus 3-4 it procs enough to be decent

[civic jungle]

Yeah, it triggers pretty frequently

[leaden thunder]

or sorry "harness the warp" not warp nexus

[magic burrow]

is there a mod that shows damage numbers outside the psykanium?

[leaden thunder]

yes

called healthbars

[idle bay]

Just don't turn healthbars for common foes. Just for elites and specials will do nicely

There is also mod that shows all debuffs with number of stacks on enemies - but it's numbers overload for a screen 🙂

[astral lark]

EW IT

[worthy moon]

What is the best method to farm materials?

[leaden thunder]

play damnation

[late yew]

there is none

[olive ember]

smh not a true malice gamer

[ionic needle]

Make sure you join random groups and look through every single nook and cranny for mats while they're off fighting

Also make sure to go down every once in a while and swear about bad team mates in comms

[kind jay]

also make sure you blow up barrels next to your team so you can grab that sweet plasteel first

[late yew]

Trauma vs void?

[worn cypress]

down to preference

[civic jungle]

I like trauma

[late yew]

what one does over the other?

[civic jungle]

Void shoots a bowling ball that knocks over everything in its path

trauma blows up everything in a circle you place on the ground

[worn cypress]

void better at chokepoints, trauma better at open areas

theyre both pretty solid horde clear

[civic jungle]

Yeah, if all the enemies are coming from the same direction, void will just delete them basically indefinitely with the right blessings (decrease peril on weakpoint hit)

[worn cypress]

void has the most satisfying SCHLAP sfx too on weakspot hit

[civic jungle]

if they are coming from all sides you can't really clear them that fast IME

[fierce sinew]

trauma better at annoying your team by dispersing enemies that were formerly contained if you aren't accurate

[worn cypress]

worth playing it just for that

[worn cypress]

man fuckin just played with someone who kept doing this

[civic jungle]

Trauma is better in chaos because you can spam it at your feet to keep yourself from getting killed

[fierce sinew]

when you miss with void you just miss, when you miss with trauma you're trolling

[worn cypress]

was surrounded in shits the whole time 😦

you can feet spam with void too to some decent extent

not usually a problem if you're carrying illisi tho

[civic jungle]

I usually have deimos with both of those staves 😄

[late yew]

i think i have illi with void

and deimos with trauma

[astral lark]

play easy damnation missions (LI, or no special conditions) and run around for mats

[hoary badge]

Wonder if they're planning to reserve the term "warp nexus" for future content

A protectorate ult sounds like it could be warp nexussy

[north solstice]

what do you guys think about the new penance gear they are gonna drop

tbh i think it looks hella goofy

i like the chainmail and the vails

phails?

phials

[olive ember]

I'm partial to it

I'd like the headgear alot more if it also came with a hood

actually

the chest has a cape

hold up

[orchid shadow]

Eh, I haven't seen any Psyker gear that I like, they all range from from meh to, Futurama-head-in-jar-circus-attraction. The green prisoner clothes are more attractive

[olive ember]

fucking prisoner rags

just use penance gear

ez pz

[orchid shadow]

Nuh uh. Prisoner rags and level 1 frame! Woot!

Always funny to see people nope out of the lobby if I'm the only one in there at the time.

[shadow wigeon]

Wildfire is very good if you pair it with Slaughter 3/4 on your sword.

[shadow wigeon]

It is useless on void, but quite fun on Trauma

[shadow wigeon]

To use it properly you have to be a bit more proactive about getting the initial stacks on, but it's really fun.

[karmic copper]

@runic juniper lalala

[runic juniper]

ye

[late yew]

how exactly?

[karmic copper]

not sure

fek me

[runic juniper]

Working together a clip hold on a sec

[karmic copper]

cool ty

[runic juniper]

Basically hold M1 for half a second, then tap M2 right after letting go

[karmic copper]

and that cancels your special?

[orchid shadow]

Oof, too bad Infernus on Recon guns doesn't convert to Soulblaze on Psyker. That would've been neat to try out

[runic juniper]

Cancels both the first and second heavy into the first light

[karmic copper]

oh what i was asking, is i saw you spamming your special charge in the elevator lol

[runic juniper]

Oh that, yeah that was weapon switching

Just to get more peril since I don't have a staff to generate any

[karmic copper]

still not sure what youre doing with the swings tho, if youre clipping, continue

yea

i didnt realize wep swapping cancels it

ive always had issues with the other force swords trying to generate peril mid fight

[late yew]

that would be interesting

[karmic copper]

i always do fucking Essence Harvest for toughness with obsc and deimos lol

derp

[runic juniper]

With an illisi you can spam it since it seems to use the same mechanic as the powersword

the special that is

[karmic copper]

bit more value into this now knowing i can properly build peril mid melee

yeah i knew that about illisi, its intuitive

[shadow wigeon]

You want to apply 4 stacks at least to a few enemies, then switch to your sword. To get wildfire going, ideally you get 1-2 kills to get Slaughter stacks, and then the fire will probably start on it's own killing and proccing slaughter.

[karmic copper]

the jerk

[shadow wigeon]

If you use purg to add alot more stacks, you can just switch to sword, and then the blaze kills will proc Slaughter and it just goes

And if you AB with 4 stacks, you want to make sure you go get 1-2 kills to get Slaughter going

This is all assuming you want max value out of wildfire. Set even part of the horde on fire, then go fight elites while wildfire spreads.

If you don't boost it with Slaughter, it has a relatively mild effect. But with power boost it does a lot of damage

And spreads very quickly

(on hordes)

You can AB with fewer than 4 stacks, as long as you top up the front guys with a few blasts from purg, then switch to sword. Ultimately you just want enough stacks so that it will go forever.

[tropic vigil]

i think it looks pretty cool. i dont care for the eyecover but otherwise it looks nice

i want cosmetics that are sleeveless

[shadow wigeon]

I have only run this with Slaughter 4, tho, no idea if there are breakpoints below 4

[tropic vigil]

what was the point of selecting tattoos if every clothing covers them

[late yew]

Oh, so actually when using wildifire you are not losing much by giving up 2 warp stacks

[karmic copper]

we pretty much have confirmed UNLOCKED blessings, at some point in the future yes?

just brunted that grey and im not sure which to delete for slaughter 3

(i dont have mods updated yet to get 25% mainac atm)

[olive ember]

Wildfire is mid last I checked on purge

unless something changed it only spreads to enemies with less than 4 stacks of burn

[karmic copper]

i have a decent deimos with all 3 combos, deflector slaughter, unstable power slaughter, and exorcist slaughter

[runic juniper]

Slaughter is definitely the best perk to have locked in

[thorn kestrel]

What level is it to get the Deimos sword?

[runic juniper]

You should see the lvl requirement in brunt's armory if you hover over it

[thorn kestrel]

Huh, weird cause it’s not in brunt’s

I’ll check over again

[runic juniper]

@karmic copper

[gloomy gulch]

this has turned out alright so far, I have no blessings for the surge, which other one do I want?

[runic juniper]

8th melee weapon down, will be grayed out for you if it's locked, but it should show the lvl requirement

[olive ember]

warp nexus + flurry

tho focused channeling works too

But Bis is Flurry + nexus

[gloomy gulch]

ahh got it

this one had lvl 1 barrage on it but the rest looked good so

sorry

the run and gun one what ever that one is called

[runic juniper]

Doesnt matter too much for surge, but I'm pretty sure flurry is priority

[olive ember]

nexus technically is

since charge rate for surge is just for more damage

Apparently surge crits deal more stagger

Ngl I could never tell but

thats what some people say

[runic juniper]

too bad theres no numbers for that

Atleast none without digging into code

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, you don't need the 6 stacks at all. It's a different play style. If you set it up right, the whole horde will immolate on their own, and you can target other enemies.

It's not better than just aw power, but you don't use your staff nearly as much, it's more aggressive, etc.

AB with 2 stacks? 2 blasts from purg and you're probably done with that horde. As long as you get those slaughter stacks right away.

[shadow wigeon]

4 is all you need

[olive ember]

I mean

6 stack burns kills all bruisers, shooters, stalkers

4 stacks is only good for poxwalkers

so I guess if you want extra charge gen

but besides that its meh

[thorn kestrel]

I mightt be blind

[runic python]

well that didn't turn out too bad

[shadow wigeon]

I'm over battery and flayer, wildfire is just more fun. And yeah you use it for charge gen, and warp absorb, and you deal so much random damage that I often end up picking up shotgunners/maulers/ragers with blaze, because of the other damage team is applying.

And you're dealing damage around corners somtimes, back into spawns, all kinds of goofy things

[olive ember]

I guess

[shadow wigeon]

I'm running this all the time now, and it just feels less fun without it.

It's not stronger, but just more fire more fun more goofing

[olive ember]

lmao I mean

yeah i can see it for fun

[kindred lake]

whats the easiest psyker build to play

[lilac tapir]

heh... all this time I thought the veteran was saying "canis warpis" (as in referencing warp hound/pox hound by its 40k "latin" name) but now I noticed it's actually "can't miss, won't miss" ...

[karmic copper]

@lilac tapir hey bud clean ur ears bud comon

my hearing is shit and i even know whats up

[lilac tapir]

I gotta! haha

well you're a dog so your hearing would be better than mine 😄

Hey, is stopping power important on Shredder? I just got this while trying to roll Pinning Fire IV to upgrade my my main Shredder which doesn't have Maniac.

[leaden thunder]

yes

very

[lilac tapir]

what does it actually do (mechanics-wise) in the game? slow down enemies that are running towards you or something else/more?

[leaden thunder]

it's a damage multiplier against armor typically

[lilac tapir]

you're right, looks like it increases both damage and stagger against armored targets

well I guess I will keep rolling and in the meanwhile sacrifice this one to get PF IV on my main shredder, thanks

[olive ember]

easiest is probably either purge staff or surge staff

also depends on what you wanna do

like surge staff psyker is more melee centric

purge is def more staff centric

[shadow wigeon]

@37% Stopping, you're giving up around 15% damage to flak, 25% to maniacs, and 20% to unyielding - compared to a 75 Stopping roll.
It's already a very strong gun, so it'll still be strong, but it is a big swing in terms of damage.

A good Stopping roll is better than any perk you can get on it.

[kindred lake]

true true

[olive ember]

and then your build is based off which staff you pick generally

[karmic copper]

from EMperor. what a not bad not good sword. if i didnt already have 8 decent deimos, id be pretty happy with that.

thanks emprah

all hail

it is done

[olive ember]

perks are icky

but besides that the sword is pretty much BiS

[long wharf]

if you prefer the Deimos

[digital loom]

i've been running this with my rending shockwave trauma

[long wharf]

I prefer the Illisi with my surge staff

[digital loom]

cant decide if i like this or my crit blaze trauma more

[long wharf]

Deimos with purge

I've been playing purge the last couple days; it feels a lot better than it used to

[digital loom]

my old faithful

[olive ember]

I use obscures with purge

and illisi with surge

or obscures with surge

but

randoms are too shit

[long wharf]

there's literally no reason to use Obscures over Deimos

[olive ember]

so I gotta swap to illisi

[digital loom]

i use illisi if i gunker or something

[olive ember]

no

Obscures is better in my heart

.>

[long wharf]

that's the only place where it is

[olive ember]

also because I cannot use the deimos

like I fucking suck with it lmao

I genuinely perform better with an obscures

[long wharf]

if you can use the Obscures effectively, you can use the Deimos effectively

[olive ember]

fuck the deimos

besides that shits gonna get nerfed

lets be honest

[long wharf]

the attack? not likely

the movement? very likely

likewise, the Illisi is likely to get nerfed as well

[olive ember]

idk the fact that l1 - h1 combo is stronger than the special

to the point theres no point using the special

[long wharf]

it's as good as the power sword was before the recent nerfs

[olive ember]

is kinda goofy

idk

Nah psword was better

illisi is better than the current psword

without power cycler

imo

[long wharf]

only if you had power cycler

[olive ember]

nah current psword with power cycler can still compete with illisi easily

[long wharf]

without power cycler, Illisi is superior

easily

[olive ember]

well yes

but thats a blessing problem tbh

tbh alot of things in this game is a blessing problem

slaughterer/headtaker meta

[long wharf]

yes, blessings across the board still need addressing

[olive ember]

I mean one step honestly I think is removing the rng

give A) a way to unlock perks and blessings

B) a way to get 500 stat weapons

and yeah

that will get us 90% of the way there

[long wharf]

B likely won't happen until we get red weapons

[olive ember]

probably not

but even A) i'd say will get us 50% of the way there

sure its gonna be aids to try and get a 380 weapon with decent stats but

(60% dmg roll anyone?)

honestly why are yellow rolls like that

why isn't it 400 stat weapons

so 80 across the board

why specifically 380

[long wharf]

because FartShart

[steel flame]

Love how they wanted to avoid the "vermintide swift slaying" problem with darktide blessings. Then proceeded to remake that same mistake step for step

[long wharf]

they don't understand game design

[olive ember]

I mean they'd have to make weapons good by base and then blessings should just be an extra bit of like

personality

or wte

not fucking the core component of the weapon revolves around getting a specific blessing

[long wharf]

that wouldn't be such an issue if the RNG wasn't so bad

[olive ember]

its a bunch of factors tbh

[naive junco]

obscures was amazing when it chunked scab captains entire phases.. does it still do it?

[long wharf]

no

and it never did

unless you played on Sedition

[naive junco]

it still skipped unshielded in heresy back then. never tried damn

[long wharf]

you mean doing enough damage for the shield to go back up? that's not impressive

[olive ember]

I think it can under super specific conditions

yeah

but the obscures and deimos have the exact same special

which is eh

[naive junco]

it was much faster than waiting for dagger zealots to beat it down. lol

[olive ember]

They prob could make obscures better if they buffed its dmg stats again

idk

cuz the alternative is giving it a good moveset but thats not happening

[steel flame]

Ha

[olive ember]

They should rly nerf the dmg of the lights on the deimos

and buff the damage of the obscures across the board

and yeah

that would prob help balance it out between the two

[steel flame]

They are still too scared of the cog hammer to hand out good move sets anytime soon

[olive ember]

I mean you say that

but the illisi exists

[long wharf]

the Illisi has an amazing moveset

[steel flame]

To stuff that isn't wavy wavy

[leaden thunder]

coghammer had numbers on it's side as well

[steel flame]

Cog hammer was the best tool for everything

[leaden thunder]

with how they are "balancing" stuff in this game it's really good single target heavy might not do good armor damage

or something equally stupid

[steel flame]

Probably

[olive ember]

its not even

meta for bardin was dual hammers

on literally every class

cuz dual hammers had better stamina for worse single target heavies I believe

like dual hammers had 6 stam vs cog hammer with 3

or wte by default

[steel flame]

Dammers were sooo booring

[leaden thunder]

sounds about right, but the coghammer is really good still

at least as far as I can tell

[olive ember]

oh yeah it is just that it isn't the best

that goes to dual hammers kekw

[steel flame]

Duel hammers was a snooze fest

W m1

Win

[deft gorge]

mr president, we got him

[proven cairn]

Any Psykers playing who'd like to do their 90% damage boss kill penance? I'm leveling my Ogryn with Haz 4 missions, using a shield. If we pick a Lights out map we'll get many Hosts I could tank

[clear linden]

What am i doing with this?

Perkwise

[olive ember]

selling it for money

[clear linden]

damn

[olive ember]

precog is widely regarded as one of the worst blessings

literally meme tier

[clear linden]

what are the blessings for dueling swords then to go after?

[long wharf]

You're gonna strip Riposte 3 off it

[clear linden]

I have riposte 4 already

[long wharf]

but not 3

[dark snow]

your offer still good for the 90%?

[proven cairn]

Yep!

Easiest if you have a few people to fill the party with, otherwise we may have to convince randoms

[dark snow]

Solo at the moment sadly

[proven cairn]

Just had a game wipe. I can back out and wait for you.

[dark snow]

Thanks

[long wharf]

I really hope someone at FartShart is paying attention to Discord activity numbers

[proven cairn]

Voice chat or text? @dark snow

[dark snow]

either is fine with me

[safe mountain]

The only way any weakspot and crit damage increase perks and blessings are going to be useful is, if fatshark makes them increase their respective multipliers instead of their damage. The other unorthodox method would be increasing the damage gain into 100% range...

[proven cairn]

Character name is Bugg. Steam is Pvt. Obamacare

[rare mesa]

is this worth

[naive junco]

its a start. if you plan on using it till you get better ones. but no if you collecting to gather dust in inv

[rare mesa]

so executor n ot worth

[naive junco]

nope.

[rare mesa]

rip

[hard breach]

What staff is good with soulblaze build?

Tried Equinox but didn't seem to crit a lot which it needs

[steel flame]

Fire staff

[naive junco]

purgatus

[steel flame]

Or the shredder autopistol

[hard breach]

But this does not apply soulblaze, no?

[steel flame]

If you get one with blaze away and pinning fire it ramps fire dot to stupid levels

[long wharf]

it's not a "soulblaze build" without the purge staff

nothing else freely applies soulblaze on-demand

[tropic vigil]

i just got this drop, is colaterall the dump stat?

[long wharf]

might as well be

that's an amazing drop

[tropic vigil]

yeah pretty lucky

[lunar hollow]

siblings

is it worth the melk money

2950 marks

[worn cypress]

worth to get just to eat transfer peril, but thats not half bad to actually use

[lunar hollow]

fuck it

im not gonna grind a voidstrike this is good enough

[worn cypress]

I think thats actually better than my void staff lmao

[fierce sinew]

replace blazing spirit with flurry and roll flak to 25% and that's a pretty solid void

[long wharf]

frankly, I wouldn't spend Milkies on anything without a T4 blessing

[lunar hollow]

good way to sit on 15k marks

ive got a full 5 psyker contracts left to do this week anyhow

the jump between t3 and t4 on most blessings isn't too crazy

unless its like pinning fire

[long wharf]

or thrust on a thunderhammer

or blazing spirit

there are plenty of breakpoints that T4 hit that T3 doesn't for particular weapons

[lunar hollow]

hence most

there are specific instances where it will matter but if im that concerned about a weapon im not gonna use the melk shop to get what i want out of it

generally speaking i'll buy anything within a reasonable threshhold of being good, even if i dont currently use it

i wanted a transfer peril/flurry build for voidstrike anyhow and the minor % difference on one of the blessings isnt likely to change much in playstyle

[cyan notch]

pretty good just grab it if u dont have one

[mental junco]

any idea its 5% to 20% of what?

crit chance?

[cyan notch]

yes

[mental junco]

but that used to be warp nexus i think?

[cyan notch]

also yes

[mental junco]

ok(

[tropic vigil]

other than pinning fire, what other blessing is good for autopistol?

[lunar hollow]

blaze away

[tropic vigil]

ty

[fierce sinew]

this is really handy

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/137?tab=description

aside from doing what it says on the tin, I have mine set up just to show soulblaze stacks on elite and above, and with AB lets you essentially ping through walls without ever seeing the enemy

[cyan notch]

a little too much clutter for me

healthbars pings em anyway

[fierce sinew]

yeah I had to turn everything else off straight away

just a single green number for me

[cold geode]

ugh, lights out missions again

[cyan notch]

time to not play the game

[limber heath]

what weps would yall recommend for psyker/is there a guide somewhere? mostly played zealot and just trying something else to level with friends

[leaden thunder]

Illisi force sword

[limber heath]

don't wanna be the only guy not going down while everyone else is stumbling around

[leaden thunder]

and which ever staff you vibe with the most

or an auto pistol

[limber heath]

and are feats pretty flexible

[leaden thunder]

decently

[civic jungle]

all the unique psyker weapons are good, just find one you enjoy

[leaden thunder]

the main 2 I stick on all the time are quitude and warp unleashed

[limber heath]

i could've sworn i had psyker at 10 or 15 but for some reason i have nothing LOL

[fierce sinew]

you get purg at 15

also they have to have the data by now to realize people prefer to see when they play

lights out as a fun novelty every now and again is one thing

2/3 maps for hours at a time on the weekend is a different, substantially less fun (in my opinion) thing

[cyan notch]

hate dogs now too

the pouncing knockback is extremely dumb

[fierce sinew]

I don't even hate dogs if I can see

[cyan notch]

also 6-7 waves each time

some waves are so staggered too

gets really old and wastes so much time

[fierce sinew]

getting pingponged around by dog collision that I can't see is nonsense

[cyan notch]

its stupid as hell

cant even sprint immediately either

[tender onyx]

what is the brain trusts opinion on this Purgatus staff?

[limber heath]

does quietude only work for peril you actively quell?

[long wharf]

use it

[long wharf]

nope

any time peril drops, that's quelling

[limber heath]

oh wowie

das poretty good

[shadow wigeon]

A+

[cold geode]

reroll that flak to 25% and you're doing even better, but other than that, top fucking tier

FFS just give me 25% maniac hadron, were at 1300 rolls already

[tender onyx]

thats how im feeling rolling for 25% flak right now lol

[cold geode]

lol

1700 now...

2000...

2800...

about to hit the cap on the damned roller mod

hit the cap, continuing on.....

3300.... FFS

[tender onyx]

emprah be with you

[cold geode]

3600....

4400...

[fierce sinew]

show this weapon

[cold geode]

wait

oh shit im dumb

thats why, i already have maniac ffs

[fierce sinew]

yeah I was thinking it had to be something

[cold geode]

weeeeee

[fierce sinew]

fatshark fun police won't let us double up perks

[cold geode]

yea

[fierce sinew]

freedom hating communists

[limber heath]

are the dueling swords any good?

[cold geode]

not now that we have deim and illis

[limber heath]

mm sad they looked kinda neat

[cold geode]

they have really good mobility buy they arent great at crowds or single target

[spice veldt]

fine for single target and also have a good block cost, but they otherwise suck because they put all of their eggs into the mobility basket

[worn canopy]

I like them still

They hold crowds well

[spice veldt]

maybe, but any weapon with 1 push cost will also do that

or weapons that have both 1 push cost and can get stagger/power% blessings to increase the strength of your pushes

and it's better to have more DPS for running through a map, though there is the usage of mobility for clutching/running as well provided you have your hordeclear covered by your ranged

still, I feel more comfortable having a good melee and bad ranged than I am with a bad melee and good ranged

[fierce sinew]

it's really just deimos tbh

it's too pushed in too close of a niche

[north cradle]

tfw you finally get Power Cycler after 300 hours and now you're getting it every other day

[limber heath]

is this just always +10% at least if you have even 1% peril?

[spice veldt]

even at 0% peril yeah

[north cradle]

Yeh

[limber heath]

another q, is this only to allies or does yourself count as an ally

the pinned thing doesn't really clarify

[spice veldt]

if you, the Psyker with Psykinetic's Aura, kill an elite/special, all allies in coherency including yourself will get the CDR

otherwise, nothing happens when your allies in coherency kill an elite/special unless your ally is another Psyker with Aura

[limber heath]

yup okay, i hoped that was the case but if it didn't give to the psyker that would've been a bit cringe

[spice veldt]

in general, you are always in coherency with yourself (Psykers also gain +10% elite dmg from their own aura); it's just toughness coherency regen in particular that doesn't kick in until there are two or more players in coherency or unless Inspiring Barrage is active

[stable silo]

to bad its the obscurus though its just gonna be bricked anyway

[tender onyx]

how is it that hadron knows what perk I want and refuses to give it to me

[stable silo]

how important is dmg on surge staff ?

[empty mesa]

Anyone try out a melee psycher setup?

[stable silo]

just run gunker with illis and shredder

illis for most things whip out shredder for elites

[spice veldt]

I'd also say that illisi is the way to go, though I use the trauma staff as my ranged
got a +3 stam curio along with sprint eff & stam regen and you can run for days

[ruby mural]

So the emprah just dropped this in my lap a month ago and I decided to actually use it

[runic python]

If I scrap a blessing does it unlock only for that weapon or for any weapon that can use that blessing?

[worthy moon]

is this any good?

guessing I can roll the 20% sniper res

[empty mesa]

Unlocks the blessing for every weapon in thay family, across all characters

[meager cedar]

Not super important, the utility of surge is the stun instead of the damage

It's very much a support staff, don't expect a lot of damage/kills with it

[shadow wigeon]

I would not pay milk bucks for that

Or for almost any curio really, until you have the weapons and blessings you need. Unless it’s exactly what you want. Which that isn’t really

[worthy moon]

Looks like I will be saving the bucks 🙂 @shadow wigeon thank you

[ionic frost]

I've seen zero good curios in over 600 Melk store refreshes

They're worthless until they come with max stats

[digital loom]

melk's shop is garbage

lord trash who lives in a dumpster

[ionic frost]

Mostly, yes

It did get me power cycler tho

Which I'd probably never get without Melk's store

but the sword it was on was trash...per usual

I've gotten maybe 1 or 2 good weapons with good stats from melk...

Been playing since Nov 28

88k melkbux to spend between 5 characters, nothing good to spend it on

[shadow wigeon]

I’ve gotten more than half my desired T4’s from Milk

And maybe 2 good weapons

[ionic frost]

I would've had T4's I'm still looking for...some cheap on purples too...but there was never a definitive answer about if we'd be able to break down weapons for crafting/etc. So I didn't waste the melkbux on em in the early months

If they had just said what the plan was, I could've had them already

All my friends quit due to rng grind/lack of new content...every map felt the same to them, not enough variety

[mossy bobcat]

there any way to make melkbucks after finishing contracts? I need only 45 for a deflector 4 and all contracts are done

[ruby mural]

what level 5 feat for gunkers?

[shadow wigeon]

Unfortunately… no. If you have the time to play, it’s worth rerolling contracts to get medium or high difficulty to max milkbucks.

[shadow wigeon]

Essence Harvest works with Communion. Otherwise you can use Quietitide to self heal if you use your sword (Ilisi) much.

[rich rose]

Running Rashad on Psyker, SWEEETT

[worthy moon]

Which one is better?

[radiant lance]

Right, Warp Flurry is very good.

Does Transfer Peril work on Trauma staff right-click at all?

[ornate hamlet]

No

[spice veldt]

unless flayer procs on it

[radiant lance]

Shouldn't even exist then lol

[spice veldt]

i'd prob prefer the right one just for the charge rate

sucks to lose on a bit of blast radius, but I prioritize charge over radius

[ornate hamlet]

Take shock wave from left and replace transfer with it on the right

[worthy moon]

Another one for the blender

What is the highest rating you can roll on a grey item?

[twilit flicker]

380

[digital loom]

run gets ended prematurely by ai director spawning daemonhost directly under my feet while i backtrack to the medicae

as in a room that was already cleared

actually no, thats not what ended the run, it was another person mindlessly hitting a bulwark shield before getting dogged

but i wasnt alive then, so

[worthy moon]

pray to jesus

well, assuming that is good to upgrade?

[twilit flicker]

i suppose it can all come down to luck, just like this trauma staff we see here

[worthy moon]

shame that 80% is in warp

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/12unfep/you_too_can_be_s_tier/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

[devout sentinel]

pretty happy with this one

not sure what I should run in the crit perk slot

[cyan notch]

might wanna change barrage to flurry or something else

its kinda useless

[ruby mural]

blaze away or cavalcade for autopistol?

[worthy moon]

what stats should I be looking at for the surge force staff?

[near wyvern]

Blaze away + pinning fire is the way to go. Makes 4 stack AB hit like a truck.

[worthy moon]

Which one should I focus on upgrading first?

[radiant lance]

Neither tbh.

[worthy moon]

what is holding them back?

[summer prairie]

The stats don't matter much for shredder. The right one is better if you want to use one now as long as you have a t3+ pinning fire for it

The left one is better stat/perk-wise but blaze away makes up for it

[devout sentinel]

don't have a IV yet

[late yew]

let's see

what useless crap will Milky have today

[cyan notch]

still good 👍

[ocean cipher]

how good is the knockoff power sword

[spice veldt]

pretty good

the special activation/1st heavy comes out faster than the power sword, so you can repeatedly stagger maulers/ragers before they can get an attack out

[ocean cipher]

nice

[spice veldt]

and you don't have the mobility limitations of the power sword, so you can spam dodge and be pretty safe spamming heavy-specials

[ocean cipher]

also i wanted to ask, if i get a blessing and dismantle the weapon to unlock it, does it unlock on any weapon that has that blessing

[spice veldt]

oh oops I mean the light-special comes out fast enough to repeatedky stagger ragers/maulers, not the 1st heavy

not on any weapon that has that blessing; only on weapons that belong to the same family

[ocean cipher]

like say i have an Atrox axe with Brutal Momentum and i dismantle it, can i then slap brutal on a different combat axe

like a rashad

[spice veldt]

for example, unlocking a blessing on either Combat Axes (Antax, Achlys, Rashad) allows you to use that blessing on another combat axe

but blessings from Tactical Axes can not be shared to Combat Axes

[ocean cipher]

damnn

[spice veldt]

it's a particularly tricky case for our psyker staffs

[ocean cipher]

are they all different

[spice veldt]

since we currently have no staffs that share the same family

yup

[ocean cipher]

wtf

[spice veldt]

"Trauma Staff" is one family, "Voidstrike Staff" is another

etc.

[ocean cipher]

i like psyker but im at the cusp right before i unlock the good shit

[spice veldt]

it's the latter part of a weapon's name that determines their family as far as I can tell

[ocean cipher]

like where its difficult enough to level that i dont wanna make that final push, but also i dont have any super cool stuff

[forest coral]

Woe, staff blessings upon thee

[spice veldt]

tru

especially when one of our staffs sucks extremely hard at lower ratings (Trauma)

[forest coral]

The harder the difficulty gets, the better trauma becomes I feel

[spice veldt]

though if you like the melee scene, we do have the Illisi which is probably at its strongest state that it's ever going to be in before the nerfs come

trauma is my comfort weapon

and my anti-"come out of an airlock/elevator into crushers/bulwarks"

[ocean cipher]

i really love the recon las, shame it's absolutely garbage

[spice veldt]

I have no anxiety going down the first dropdown of the magistrati mission solo with the trauma staff

I love me fast firerate no recoil weapons

[ocean cipher]

theres one thats like 900rpm

[spice veldt]

I guess they reckoned that the ease of use should balance the DPS out

but they really fucked the numbers

[ocean cipher]

so basically as soon as i see a caxe with b momentum nab it

[spice veldt]

yup

brutal momentum is currently pretty good at all tiers because it can be refreshed while the blessing is active

[ocean cipher]

thats how all blessings should be

[spice veldt]

so I wouldn't fuss about buying a brumo from melk

yeah

too bad we have blessings that give 75% power

[forest coral]

Ye

[spice veldt]

or 100% in the case of pinning fire

[ocean cipher]

i just discovered the existence of the Rashad MkII Axe and it fucks

[spice veldt]

I never used it but it seems to have pretty fast heavies

that was previously gimped by its torso priority pre-patch

[ocean cipher]

it does solidly against carapace

which ik is usually a psyker or ogryn's job

or preacher

or really anyone but the veteran lmao

[spice veldt]

eh, depends on the build as usual

a shattering bolter or plasma is good nuff

[ocean cipher]

plasma is uber single target right

like 0 multi?

[spice veldt]

I think it has 4 cleave? Not sure if that changes when it's charged though

never tested it since I stopped playing vet a long time ago

[near wyvern]

Yeah it was bugged for a long time (couldn't find heads) but it's a nice version of the antax mkV, with correct blessings mows through horde just as well and has a bit faster strikes

[ocean cipher]

to me its just a meatier antax

[near wyvern]

It deals a bit less damage per swing but can swing faster. But the thing is when you swing and the head already flies what does more damage do at that point, I would rather take more attack speed in that case.

[ocean cipher]

fair

[near wyvern]

Headtaker rashad is the way to go for all other classes than zealots IMO just because of the attack speed

With Zealots you can justify it with antax being a better boss killing weapon since they have the passive attack speed to get away with the slowness of antax swings against horde

But antax was considered the only option for a long time since rashad was bugged

[ocean cipher]

so headtaker and bomentum?

[near wyvern]

Yup

Meta blessings

[ocean cipher]

fair

[near wyvern]

But with psyker you should really consider Slaughterer Illisi, it's equally effective against hordes, elites and specials, maybe a tiny bit less against mutants but it has a huge defensive arsenal via infinite dodges and infinite trash stagger even when not running deflector.

It's not because rashad would be bad, it's because Illisi is just so fucking good and maybe a bit over tuned.

[cyan notch]

decimator is pretty good too

[stuck sinew]

You kill a mutant in like two special heavies lol

Which is around as fast as one special on the other two swords

Plus you can still move

[spice veldt]

though the deimos has the 2nd heavy

[stuck sinew]

Yes but I'm only responding to the notion that illisi has some kind of mutant weakness

[kind jay]

illy is so strong i forget i have a staff sometimes

[spice veldt]

staffs aren't real

[kind jay]

2x light special is enough to kill a mutie. if it's during a horde with stacks the heavy will one shot them (though i use blood)

i sadly expect a nerf as well

[near wyvern]

I was comparing rashad DPS against Illisi DPS on a mutant

And I did not say Illisi mutant damage is weak I said perhaps a bit less than Rashad. A bit less than great is not weak.

And line Arcotash said when it comes to Deimos you should not special mutants when you can just one tap them with a heavy.

Deimos 2nd heavy is so long you can find the head even through the A hole

[civic jungle]

nooooooo, don't nerf my infinite dodge sword with +75% power 😭

The infinite dodges really is kind of dumb that now I don't even sprint anywhere anymore, I'll just turn sideways and dodge in my direction of travel

encounter enemies and just dodge around them while left-clicking

[spice veldt]

kill all those who wish upon nerfs with our balanced™ 75% power infinite dodges sword

[civic jungle]

psyker is still the weakest class, just look at all the people on plebbit complaining about it

[forest coral]

Sword fight back, kill sword.

Sword gone, regret.

[spice veldt]

i cri everytime people see three psykers, type in chat remarking about it, and leave

granted that it's only happened two times to the best of my memory to me

[civic jungle]

blessed match if you're ogryn

[forest coral]

Psyker and ogryn team is like playing vermintide

[spice veldt]

also granted is that I hate virtually almost all psyker teammates I meet

so I guess I understand the sentiment

[civic jungle]

Though I feel like I've failed more of the 3+ psyker matches than average, perhaps because most of the psykers prefer ranged attacks to sword-mulching

[spice veldt]

yeah

[civic jungle]

and low total hp pool

[spice veldt]

surge psykers using only surge, trauma users blasting the horde right in front of me when I'm using the illisi or using it on stragglers, voidstrike users trying to use quell-cancel for DPS, purg users LMBing stragglers

or psykers running HP only and not having the toughness to be aggressive against ranged
or staying in the backline using only BB

[devout sentinel]

[spice veldt]

or just psykers in general not knowing how to melee
or duelling sword psykers when they get pressured and don't have good keybinds to swap between ranged/melee

then again, most of this applies to all classes

[forest coral]

psykers when they accidentally press button at 100%

[spice veldt]

I lost my muscle memory for QQ cancelling because of that

server dropping my swap inputs and making me blow up

[cyan notch]

still annoying not swapping standing there with your hands out getting slapped by 1 poxwalker

[fallow falcon]

17% toughness is real

ITS FUCKING RUINED

[cyan notch]

keep it for when they rework locks

[spice veldt]

an embarrassing display of skill issue 😔

[halcyon creek]

Dockets isn’t completely useless… only almost completely useless

In the casino, the man with more money than everyone else is king

[spice veldt]

that's true
it's a bit of my pre-brunt's armory thinking

I do tend to be gated by dockets for hunting good stat distrib items

now if they would just let us buy curios from brunt's

[halcyon creek]

Watch the third perk be complete trash tho

[still socket]

i noticed a harsh delay when channeling BB

to switch weapons

[ornate hamlet]

This was the turning point for my gun psyker

I didn't even get out of staves because of guns, but because the game eating my inputs and having me explode by firing a little ball instead of swinging the sword was so obnoxious

[supple skiff]

use to think gunker was a meme, maybe it wasn't but the new warp charge falloff and warp unleased and I rather enjoy using them occasionally

still mostly use staves, but on lights out or missions where it looks like shooter trash will be an issue I swap over

[drowsy slate]

Gunker is with mk12 or with autopistol?

[ornate hamlet]

Most guns you want

Lasgun, laspistol, autogun, headhunter, basically anything that's already somewhat worth something

[ember hornet]

pretty much just autopistol if you are actually gonna use a gun cause gunker is really just maining illisi

but since you are maining illisi it doesn't really matter that much, can run anything

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, if the player will be nearly exclusively using the gun, things change

But that would be a bit uhhh unwise

[supple skiff]

I run a las rifle, use that for gunner trash and some specials. Illsi for hordes and anything up close. BB for anything with armor

more or less have a tool for every situation

[ornate hamlet]

That's the magic of gun psyker

[supple skiff]

I run psy aura and barrage so I can machine gun bulwarks and stuff, but maintaining WC is a pain

[ornate hamlet]

It's a lot easier to deal with smaller stuff at range when you can just pop their head with laser

[ember hornet]

I just run quicken and kill everything with illisi

and BB ogryns

[ornate hamlet]

I can't stand playing without communion tbh

Getting the funny cooldown when killing elites is cool, but for that I'd rather just put cooldown on the curio

[ember hornet]

quicken + communion very good

[supple skiff]

sounds a lot better as far as not having to worry about charges, but I go full on phantom limb If I stop using kinetic barrage lmao

[ember hornet]

It's kind of a meme but it's fun

if I were playing psyker like a psyker then I'd use one of the other 2

[empty mesa]

Need to try gunker out

Gonna take psycher break tho, hurts not being able to carry

Gonna return to vet to try auto pistol and zealot for thunder hammer

[worthy moon]

What you going to try out next?

[empty mesa]

Only have ogryn left to level up

[worthy moon]

I was thinking about vet for plasma cannon

Or w/e it’s called

[empty mesa]

Mmm should try new plasma

Prolly replaces bolter at this point

But bolter so fun, goes ca-chunk

Just did a shock gaut damnation run with 2 vets. One had auto pistol and other plasma, couldn't even get to enemies in time before they were mowed down by them

[worthy moon]

Maybe I level the Ogryn next for stubber