#psyker-class
shadow wigeon
I don't think I'd recommend a DC to any psyker, unless you're really wanting to use it.
shadow wigeon
is this any good?
It's good. I would take mobility over collateral
shadow wigeon
What blessings / perks do I want for this?
Pinning fire is BIS. Blaze Away is good, but you can swap it for other things.
mental rock
Pinning fire
shadow wigeon
if you want to try degenerate blaze pistol build, then Pinning/Blaze Away
mental rock
For feats, kinetic flayer
worthy moon
I just got this from my mission
shadow wigeon
Perks: + flak. +maniac is a bonus.
shadow wigeon
I just got this from my mission
I would roll both of those to blue to see what you get.
if you have spare plasteel
worthy moon
I will make sure I have enough š will be good to have a gun version
shadow quail
Opinions on wrack and ruin now
worthy moon
is it a good build?
shadow quail
?
shadow wigeon
is it a good build?
Well, the auto pistol is a bit over tuned right now, so it's a good build because that weapon is very strong (w/ pinning fire).
In general it's still quite fun.
You can use Kinetic barrage with it for taking out crushers, and Illisi for horde clear.
And Ascendant Blaze if you are a monster.
shadow wigeon
Opinions on wrack and ruin now
It's just not good enough.
leaden thunder
like it's ok? but compared to the other options
fun to mess around with
technically viable imo, but not super worth
shadow wigeon
I did one run with it, leaning way into it... and it's just... meh.
Anything's viable but it's just adding so little
6 stacks? Maybe. 8 stacks would be pretty sick.
Alright I don't know anything about trauma staffs, but Hadron looks like she's tempting me
I feel this is meant to go one of two ways
shadow quail
slap nexus on it
shadow wigeon
slap nexus on it
See that's what I intended to do and that's why I rolled it, but then hit cara and rending, and I assume... they are part of some... more normal build?
shadow quail
yeah but fire
shadow wigeon
Well she's feeling very kind today
Second staff I just rolled hit nexus
- cara I assume is good?
shadow quail
lol nice
not sure tbh I've barely used trauma, waiting for a decent one
Been told they are great, hasn't been my experence so far, but don't have a flame one
shadow wigeon
Time to meem
worn bolt
fuck it good enough
digital loom
i havent gotten a single usable thing out of hadron for like 2 patches now
she went from banging out l3 and l4 perks almost exclusively to 2's and 3's and only the worst blessings
even melk keeps trying to sell me shit with t2 blessings for almost 3000 coins
wtf did they do to rng
worn bolt
yeah I havent seen a 4 tier in a while now, I think melk or high tier damns are the only way I'll even see them
ionic frost
I just spent 8k plasteel upgrading shotguns and got 1 tier 4 blessing
digital loom
was it terrifying barrage
ionic frost
Scattershot
digital loom
ionic frost
Making a bleed+flame shotgun =)
worn bolt
https://tenor.com/view/sue%C3%B1itosgifs-traumatized-mr-incredible-los-increible...
Hadron be like, sorry bout that after giving you terrifying barrage again for the 16th time today.
worthy moon
any good?
worn bolt
nah I cba to play this game much at all, I just play whenever I feel like killing heretics
nimble burrow
killin heretics is a good job
worn bolt
any good?
its ok, the rolls arent spectacular but it can be used, issue is the warp resist is gonna have you venting every 3 seconds
nimble burrow
I just roll through some t4's maybe a few 5s with ogryn and psyker, i got other games to play
and friends to play with falling like flies
worn bolt
I just roll through some t4's maybe a few 5s with ogryn and psyker, i got other ...
same, I play a bit. gather some mats while im there, roll once or twice then play something else
nimble burrow
they havent even touched this update yet
worn bolt
I actually got friends back into the game this update
specifically a vet main buddy of mine that is drooling over pgun changes
hes such a chad he uses devil claw
nimble burrow
i was hype for plasma buff, then i remember i just hate playing vet
ornate hamlet
nimble burrow
if i want to melee and shoot i go big man, if i want to have fun I embrace the peril of the warp
obtuse moth
what perks do you want for nexus blazing trauma
near wyvern
what perks do you want for nexus blazing trauma
+5% crit chance mandatory and then either +infested or +unarmoured for one shotting poxwalkers or dreg bruisers in case you are down some stacks
river sand
so like this
strong ether
Which perk should I replace? Leaning towards damage against maniacs.
worthy moon
this good?
twilit flicker
No, it's fantastic. Now hurry up and let hadron brick it.
onyx frigate
It's not perfect but it's pretty darn good
worthy moon
I just got this from my mission
I got pinning fire rank 3 on this
What blessings for trauma?
obtuse moth
ah so then the flak is less valuable, got it
austere estuary
trauma blessings I like most are flurry + rending
flurry paired with inner tranquility in particular
obtuse moth
we're not talking about that build rn
obtuse moth
oh maybe ramsta was, didnt realise there was a second flurry convo ye
austere estuary
I'm trying to get a good shredder pistol too atm
shadow wigeon
+5% crit chance mandatory and then either +infested or +unarmoured for one shott...
What feats do you run with fire trauma?
austere estuary
tempted to consecrate this despite poor mobility
cause brunt ain't being nice for a long while now 
shadow wigeon
tempted to consecrate this despite poor mobility
i think it's fine. Your melee is your mobility tool.
obtuse moth
tempted to consecrate this despite poor mobility
what would you prefer as a dump stat?
shadow wigeon
what would you prefer as a dump stat?
I don't think collateral matters that much.
austere estuary
well, still mobility probably but not as low
shadow wigeon
When you ADS, pistol has a lot of stagger
austere estuary
hadron pls
obtuse moth
oh is the stagger higher with ADS?
shadow wigeon
oh is the stagger higher with ADS?
It's is double. ADS is critical with pistol for stagger.
shadow wigeon
hadron pls
I mean... it's a start. Do you have pinning 3 or 4 already?
shadow wigeon
ok then that's not great.
TBH I would have walked at perk and blessing
I know it's no fun
austere estuary
was tempted to
obtuse moth
yea you threw good money after a bad bet
austere estuary
but with monhun and wildhearts updates not gonna have a tonne of time for a while to play anyway
shadow wigeon
fair nuf
TB probably has some merit as a psyker
chance of fewer bullets now and then
austere estuary
Come to think of it
what do we normally want on the other blessing on shredder
pinning is the goat but for second I've not thought too hard
twilit flicker
Blaze Away: +power the longer you keep the trigger pulled
shadow wigeon
Blaze Away is pretty good. It's much smaller buff than pinning, tho
so you can tweak the second blessing if you like
Altough if you're going for AB pistol melting, you want pining and blaze. And if you find youeself mag dumping, you want blaze.
austere estuary
shadow wigeon
If you burst, blaze is useless
austere estuary
man I kind of hate stopping power as a roll, feels like a kind of
"yeah you rolled good damage, but now roll again to check"
magic burrow
If you burst, blaze is useless
not really. Blaze buff lasts long enough that you can tap fire and still build stacks
near wyvern
What feats do you run with fire trauma?
311112
near wyvern
It works if you have max or near max charge speed and blast radius. Just gotta have Warp Nexus 4 on it.
digital loom
think i found my upgrade
change flak on left to crit chance
uny is nice for slug
shadow wigeon
not really. Blaze buff lasts long enough that you can tap fire and still build s...
Yes, that's true. It's pretty delicate, but you could in theory train yourself to maintain it. Very hard though. Pinning is (relatively) easy to maintain.
shadow wigeon
Blazing spirit trauma
I ran it after @near wyvern mentioned it and honestly it was pretty fun
obtuse moth
Blazing spirit trauma
applying a dot makes the effective damage radius a lot larger even if its not meta
digital loom
instead of meta i usually figure out what pub teams are weak with and run that to fill the hole
usually
its horde
so i usually bust my horde killing to the max
is blaze trauma best at that? no probably not.
olive ember
Imagine having the loadout mod
I just roll a dice pick a loadout
And pray we donāt end up with 4 flamers
digital loom
i dont look at other people's loadouts i just go on experience
olive ember
If I hit a 1 on my d20 I pull out my revolver knife psyker build
digital loom
ironically the more zealots i see in my lobby the more likely our team will be weak at horde
ionic needle
Happen to it
spice veldt
wow precog
leaden thunder
damn
spice veldt
very nice
olive ember
I mean I look at melee weapon
leaden thunder
skill issued
olive ember
Like if you rly care melee weapons typically give a good idea
Especially since even pug flamer zealots canāt horde clear for shit
ionic needle
So close to perfect :<
Testing it in meat grinder now and I get almost 30% peril for a special
ionic frost
If I hit a 1 on my d20 I pull out my revolver knife psyker build
Oooo, I like that idea...leave which build I use up to the dice roll. =)
upper ridge
wow precog
is precog something rare?
spice veldt
oh nah, I was poking fun
Precog is regarded as one of the worst blessings
spice veldt
the numerical value of the bonus being low and the fact that it's giving weakspot/crit damage, which are bad due to the way they are added on top of existing damage
upper ridge
it kinda makes blessings not he dealbreaker
spice veldt
yeah, illisi is good enough to just be fixed with a single slaughterer
north cradle
If you want to feel like a Sith, Illisi with Slaughterer and maybe Bloodthirsty is a good way to do that
Duelling Sword wishes it was as fanciful as Illisi
spice veldt
I'd say that the duelling swords do got da drip
north cradle
If I was a sanctioned psyker in the Scholastica, a Duelling Sword would look great just as another piece for commanding presence
Hell, give one to the Veteran to cosplay as a disgraced commissar
fringe garden
it's not all about the size
long wharf
Maybe, but you can't cross the Atlantic in a canoe.
digital loom
if anything i'd be upset he didn't bring a real weapon to fight with
probably a stinking noble only interested in cowering in the back and shooting anyone who complains
north cradle
I mean, Scholastica psykers probably don't even need to lift a finger to turn the tide of a battle anyway
But cavalry sabres have been a staple of officer uniforms for centuries IRL, and millennia of the Warhammer 40K setting
olive ember
It 21% hp
Into the bin
Honestly up to you
In terms of actual like in game use def reroll dockets but
With the 10/10 endgame darktide has dockets is actually one of the āmetaā perks for curios
Itās very dumb but thatās what bruntās does to a mf
sick isle
which to replace with slaughter?
olive ember
Exorcist
sick isle
i assumed
molten sparrow
"Going Out With a Bang" Penance works using specialists right?
olive ember
Uhā¦.
I think so maybe dunno
I did it with shotgunners and gunners so couldnāt tell ya
sick isle
perks for trinkets are toughnessregen/ sniper/ gunner generally?
olive ember
Hp, stam regen depending on player, etc yeah
orchid shadow
Yay, finally randomly got pick and mix!
olive ember
Lol congrats
edgy kite
"Going Out With a Bang" Penance works using specialists right?
No it doesn't, it needs to be elites.
molten sparrow
No it doesn't, it needs to be elites.
Did they fix it? because everyone says specialists count
edgy kite
Did they fix it? because everyone says specialists count
Didn't work for me like 3 days ago on poxhounds
molten sparrow
Didn't work for me like 3 days ago on poxhounds
they say shot-gunners count
edgy kite
They're elites
molten sparrow
k
spice veldt
the intuition is that elites generally pre-spawn on the map and aren't immediately aggroed onto you
whereas specialists spawn on a timer and are almost always aggroed onto you, though I think the sniper has a passive state? Not sure about the latter part
olive ember
Idk some penances says elites but actually means elites & specialists
I believe pick n mix falls into this category
I just donāt know about out with a bang
north solstice
lol
olive ember
Congrats lmao
gilded magnet
Is this worth for the sticker? :3
im not sure how well blazing spirit is atm on swords
digital loom
if they ever nerf blaze on trauma i will go back to rending i suppose
uhh
depends
i have a blazing meme illisi that kills on first hit and then crits on second hit which is normal and it spreads pretty good with wirldfire
gilded magnet
ive got another sword with the guranteed crit on special attack with blaze 3, could upgrade that one
ahh yeah
hmm
digital loom
if there's nothing else you're looking for, reset is in 4 days
edgy kite
Melk store resets daily
spice veldt
though be warned that it's a guaranteed crit after a special kill, so bloodthirsty + blazing won't have that boss niche
I'd say it's not too good unless you really want to run AB and want to get some stacks and aren't running purg and whatnot
gilded magnet
i think thats part of the issue im having
i think its more for a collection/memey kind of thing
if im running a wildfire build ive got a trauma staff with blazing spirit on it
or this
edgy kite
Why are you running a wildfire build without purgatus š¤
spice veldt
does blazing spirit apply to enemies killed in the trauma's epicentre?
gilded magnet
I see T4 on a purple in melk store and i get a neuron activation
spice veldt
if that's the case, then I can see wildfire working with trauma blazing spirit
gilded magnet
not even on kill, just on a crit
spice veldt
oh I mean does it apply to enemies before they die
gilded magnet
not sure, havent actually tried it yet
spice veldt
since it would be meh if it killed them before they got soulblazed and then wildfire wouldn't spread it
gilded magnet
but ive seen it in work i think
that's the issue i had before with the blood thirsty blessing
kept killing the target of the second hit
so no wildfire
spice veldt
suffering from success š
olive ember
Is this worth for the sticker? :3
Blazing spirit is off meta but for 1.6k Iād say itās worth getting the t4 just for how cheap it is and how rare t4 is
gilded magnet
eh guess ill hold off on the sword for now, im sure ill stumble across it again later
mmm
the issue atm is im sitting on 4.4k on my psyker
if i buy that, and something decent rolls before the next reset
im fooked
olive ember
Just pray nothing good shows up until next Monday
cyan notch
surge
cyan portal
Have any code diggers worked out what 'burn intensity' on the damage stat for purgatus staves actually means?
sick light
I read lone digger and immediately started thinking abt anthropomorphic animals stabbing each other at a night club
cloud sequoia
looks good and cheap 
runic python
Blazing Spirit to Slaughter once I find one I can eat, what perks am I looking for?
tropic vigil
Itās very dumb but thatās what bruntās does to a mf
Ty. I'll probably just get rid of it then. Unless currency becomes acc. Wide. That would be nice.
sick isle
is this worth buying to add unstable to the stickerbook
tropic vigil
im not sure how well blazing spirit is atm on swords
I used it it seems like ass tbh you proc it more often in the meat grinder more than actual lobbies
atomic forum
mmmm... as much as i love purgatus, this is too fun
naive junco
when a zealot with a flamer tells a deimos/void psyk to horde control on assassination. ..what?
atomic forum
lol... unless they have power hammer, deimos probably outdamages
naive junco
a thrust blessed hammer*
spice veldt
though even the deimos/obscurus special is going to do some work against the boss' hp
restive slate
You mean a lotta work
atomic forum
in my experience i just slap them with specials and it randomly chunks entire phases
spice veldt
just looking at the calc, a crucis heavy-special does 1.6k bodyshot to the boss and a deimos light-special does 2.1k
gilded magnet
I used it it seems like ass tbh you proc it more often in the meat grinder more ...
well that's not very reassuring eh haha
restive slate
just looking at the calc, a crucis heavy-special does 1.6k bodyshot to the boss ...
What about deimos Heavy 2
safe crystal
just looking at the calc, a crucis heavy-special does 1.6k bodyshot to the boss ...
Crucis heavy 1 with thrust 4 and unyielding 4 deals 4k to DH, 4.3k to plogryn and 5.7k to Bonbon on a bodyshot. It revolves heavily around having thrust on it
spice veldt
deimos heavy 2
safe crystal
Or is this specifically the captain were talking about?
spice veldt
ye
shadow wigeon
Fire trauma: which perk would you keep (replacing other with +crit)? Is + cara actually useful or do you mostly find yourself ccing crushers?
+maniacs on trauma seems unlikely to get used much?
spice veldt
probably not except maybe on dreg ragers
more niche than anything tho
I'd be comfortable with replacing +maniac with crit
shadow wigeon
Yeah I think that makes the most sense to me
midnight bluff
aint this like good, but not for psyker.... https://i.imgur.com/HtePabc.png
or did that get fixed
spice veldt
if your hordeclear is covered by your ranged weapon (purg n all that), I'd assume it's fine
perks being meh
sick isle
charge rate important on surge?
naive junco
only if you want to do dmg while stunning..
sinful palm
My psyker just dinged 30 and I crafted up these two, I haven't had any issues in hi-int5s yet but I wasn't sure if there were any blessings/perks I should be looking for or cannibalizing these suckers for.
I assume Carapace is worthless on Illisi compared to either other force sword
naive junco
the llisi just needs unstable power instead of blaze spirit
crit dmg into maniac or flak.
illisi still does work on crushers. plus carapace better than crit dmg
sick isle
does unstable power cap out at 5% power? or is it just worded weird
sinful palm
I assumed that it was worded poorly
naive junco
5% per 20% peril
sick isle
ah, okay, i was wondering why ppl told me to get it. that makes sense
sinful palm
I keep seeing surge staves with crit chance. Is it like burn stacks where a crit is 2 ticks?
*zealot main.. branching out and still learning the preferred perk/blessing combos on Psyker gear
naive junco
the dmg is pretty much from crit
long wharf
more than that, the amount something gets staggered by the surge staff is directly related to how many times it ticks on things
crits double the stagger value applied per tick
sinful palm
I swapped the flak for crit chance on my staff after seeing it on people's gear
long wharf
you want both flak and crit chance
if you have to pick one, go flak
because surge staff already does good damage to flak, you want to magnify that
speaking of which
@olive ember after playing with WU on my surge build, I'm going to keep using it
sinful palm
yeah it has crit damage. sadly the other perk was trash. so I rolled flak on it but it is crit chance and dmg now
cyan notch
crit is pretty lame on void and trauma
long wharf
I've gone from 321133 to 311113 for my surge setup
yeah, the crit damage multipliers on void and trauma are low
not worth trying to boost
and their crit chance is base psyker, so 5%
also not worth boosting for on-crit effects
sinful palm
Solid info. I have only rolled surge so far but I want to try the others so I will keep that in mind.
Thanks!
olive ember
<@297801006182432778> after playing with WU on my surge build, I'm going to keep...
aye nice nice
long wharf
surge with illisi feels so damn good
the only way it could be better is if I could get blazing spirit on surge staff
then I'd use AB
frankly, with the way the power sword was nerfed, I see the Illisi getting the same treatment
spice veldt
yup
maybe lowering the damage on the first few targets and removing the increased stagger on special
golden elbow
thoughts?
long wharf
don't bother
ornate hamlet
All I see is deathspitter being added to your blessings list 
primal plume
Warp Unleashed or Inner tranquility on Surge?
long wharf
I recommend Warp Unleashed
we quell so fast now on a decent staff that you get more out of +25% damage
naive junco
I feel bad having WU on a transfer peril voidstrike during hordes.. start with 60+ peril and down to 0% after 3 shots of multiple weak point hits
fierce sinew
you still get 10% for free
if that was literally all the feat did it would still be the pick most of the time
naive junco
yeah.. still best option either way.
hearty python
@naive junco that's why I run inner tranquility with Void, how does WU give 10% for free though?
fierce sinew
that's more value than warp battery, and warp battery is good
long wharf
if your goal is to void as often as possible, you might as well lean into it with Inner Tranquility
naive junco
the initial charge+shot should give you the minimal dmg increase.
hearty python
@long wharf that's my strat
fierce sinew
it's 10% at 0 peril and goes up from there
hearty python
Oh, ok. I also usually have some trouble with it not quelling down quick enough even at transfer 3 without IT, but my aim may just be off
naive junco
wu is just too useful cuz its all dmg now though.
fierce sinew
the BB breakpoints alone are such that I won't play without it
naive junco
and making charged sword hits just that much stronger is nuts
fierce sinew
the fact that quelling is so much better than before also makes a lot of the benefit of tranquility redundant
hearty python
@fierce sinew does it hit the breakpoints for flamers right away? Because if so I may try it
hearty python
Ok, yea I run battery and tranquility
fierce sinew
ragers and especially bursters are handy to kill in 1 bb as well
fierce sinew
think it still needs 1 charge no?
for what?
naive junco
flamer.
fierce sinew
for bb breakpoints you need some combination of peril and charges yes
naive junco
with 0 warp charges and peril at 0%
hearty python
But I also seem to be one of the few to run MiM, I just like the quality of play it gives, too many people already abandon their psyker already, especially if I'm searching for materials or books
hearty python
@naive junco I can't remember if I can get them fully charged on WB or not
naive junco
i just never checked how much a bb charges from 0. all i know is i can recast at 98.. but ive killed myself a few times cuz i dont have the decimal % mod
fierce sinew
I find moving around while quelling with the staff perfectly fine, using a feat for MiM will always be strange to me
hearty python
@fierce sinew I feel like I'm standing still without it.
fierce sinew
97 without tranquility but yeah, you're getting to the 40% threshold virtually always, and I say "virtually" just in case there's some mid-release battle meditation multi proc from DoT fringe situation etc
are you sliding?
one of the comfiest things about movement as psyker is how you get to dodge and slide everywhere all the time
hearty python
@fierce sinew not always, haven't tried quelling & sliding, I'm not sure I have the finger dexterity to pull it off
spice veldt
I have my dodge on Shift and crouch on C to make it easier
fierce sinew
I have my dodge on Shift and crouch on C to make it easier
same layout here
hearty python
And I kinda recently found out I can dodge-slide 500hrs in
fierce sinew
you were just playing with weighted training clothes on
naive junco
i just have them both on space
primal plume
what charge rate should I aim for with surge?
naive junco
but screws over dodging.
fierce sinew
your spatial awareness and target prioritization have been sharpened by your hours of artificially gimped movement
hearty python
I have dodge as space, crouch is l-ctrl
fierce sinew
go forth and slide, with a bonus feat as well
runic python
Don't think I'm beating that. Once I find a t4 Warp Nexus and reroll it to 5% crit chance at least.
fierce sinew
since you graduate from MiM
I don't think it matters that much what you bind them to, but I do think it's trolling not to separate jump and dodge at least
whatever is comfy for your hands
hearty python
@fierce sinew maybe after/if I get better more used to sliding, definitely may separate dodge
I've been frustrated too many times by jumping when trying to dodge
fierce sinew
literally had that happen a single time
in the tutorial
put a stop to that shit immediately
naive junco
dodge/crouch on space , jump on ctrl.
its kind of funny when all you see is a psyker laying on the ground swinging a sword
hearty python
Oh, didn't think about that dodge/crouch combo
abstract cedar
god this penance is AIDS
hearty python
May try that when I get back on
abstract cedar
literally doing damnation STG and can't get pick & mix
hearty python
@abstract cedar which one?
fierce sinew
it's more about team comp and less about difficulty
hearty python
@abstract cedar do it on heresy STG so you have an easier time getting the kills, I think that's how I got it
quaint depot
Been doing that for weeks I get 4 at best.
abstract cedar
same, just constant 4 pieces
hearty python
If you can get a helpful vet that'll light them up and let you kill them it could help
abstract cedar
it would be infinitely simpler if dogs could be 1shot by BB
quaint depot
People don't talk in game or read chat.
fierce sinew
alternatively play with a group in comms and yell LET ME HAVE THEM at the appropriate time
naive junco
lol chances are if the vet ults, hes gonna tag em all himself or attack the one thats charging bb
gloomy yarrow
Hey are we talking about stupid fucking penances?
abstract cedar
yes
hearty python
I think I just kept trying in Heresy until I got it
quaint depot
90% one is just as stupid
gloomy yarrow
You know the one where you have to blow up and kill 3 specials?
Dogs donāt count
abstract cedar
the suicide bomber one is almost free
hearty python
@quaint depot that just takes a faithful Ogryn and cooperative team
fierce sinew
90% one comes up in clutch situations if you're lucky
quaint depot
Done that one, it's easy on a run that is failed. I just blew up a bunch of ragers and a flamers and such
fierce sinew
out with a bang is the only one I don't have to this day, doing that when we can private match with bots only
gloomy yarrow
I just canāt get that to happen
fierce sinew
not making a an actual person play with me doing that
abstract cedar
the worst part about trying to get pick & mix is that you almost need hi-intensity or STG on high difficulty and you have to sit there and stare at the fucking map all day until one pops up
because level select is immeasurably complex
spice veldt
my teammates don't die anymore š
quaint depot
If it is wrong mobs it takes too many bb also
fierce sinew
you should know which mobs to target in what order by now
if it's going to take more than one you don't even bother
quaint depot
I have -10% cooldown on curios and still yeah not enough to get 5 down with random mobs
fierce sinew
you don't need anything on curios, just kinetic barrage and a vet that lets it happen
quaint depot
It's taking 2-3 today for some reason on Maulers with 6 charges
prisma perch
Running toughness/gunner res on my curios not sure what to do for a third
Contemplating stamina regen or sprint efficiency
hearty python
@fierce sinew I got it at the opening of the Magistrate Obliette assassination mission by running into a bunch of rangers and a bulwark right in the opening area
naive junco
sniper? just in case the random bs spawn into insta shot gets you
prisma perch
I could do sniper it does suck a lot when that happens
fierce sinew
I got mine on a rager pile in chasm logistratum (by the big drop down after the rails)
just need the vet to let you, lots of places to find it. commsplex is the meta recommendation
abstract cedar
just cleared commsplex damnation STG and didn't get it
the stars have to align perfectly
it's stupid
hearty python
I don't remember where I got it on, I had the feats set and just kept trying
fierce sinew
I think with kb on hi5 or hi shock you usually have multiple chances a map teammates permitting
fierce sinew
if you're going through maps and never getting the pile of gunners put on you that's a silver lining at least
hearty python
Yeah I think I may have just been on heresy HI or STG
abstract cedar
if you're going through maps and never getting the pile of gunners put on you th...
not a single gunner spawned in the big room until after we triggered the elevator
fierce sinew
I can't think of a map of either variety recently that didn't have a pick n mix or two on it
abstract cedar
cue my ?????
hearty python
Also for Malleus I just joined a lobby on heresy with a shield ogryn and asked if they were willing to help me with it and swapped feats when they agreed
We were in power matrix and there was a DH in the second room just after the second drop ez-pz
quaint depot
It should be a penance to get people to use chat or voice
hearty python
Yeah, I use voice since chat takes too long
gusty latch
fellas are you running wildfire when using the aoe force sword
I'm running it adjacent to the zapper staff without wildfire rn
primal plume
should i refine this or just get the blessing?
forest coral
although the radius is kind of sad, its not that bad
you'd definitely want to get it for the blessing if u already have a better staff
shadow wigeon
should i refine this or just get the blessing?
If you don't have another staffr eady for that blessing you could refine that and it will be fine
Your range will be short 2m or so, which is definitely noticeable. But if you just want to run with it now, I would.
shadow wigeon
fellas are you running wildfire when using the aoe force sword
wildfire with force sword?
Wildfire is pretty fun with the flame staff (purgatus) but I wouldn't use it otherwise.
tiny plinth
new to psyker, what's the next steps?
naive junco
i assume hes running blazing spirit with wildfire?
tiny plinth
as soon as i get my 90% brain burst thing yeah
forest coral
carapace to flak, blazing spirit to slaughteror
tiny plinth
oh, not the crit on special thing?
forest coral
nope
forest coral
unfortunatley the sword fire is stupidlyt weak
shadow wigeon
new to psyker, what's the next steps?
Blazing Spirit on swords is a bit of a meme
It isn't actually good, just fun
naive junco
if it was weak point.. maybe.
tiny plinth
isn't fun good?
shadow wigeon
isn't fun good?
Hmm... let's say, fun LOOKING
more than actual fun
Like it's ok, and if you want a fire sword, I would use Shred
naive junco
weakpoint would be hilarious. . but crit zzz
shadow wigeon
in place of Executor
But I think you'll get bored of it before too long
It just doesn't DO very much
tiny plinth
the sword doesn't really do much though :\
shadow wigeon
I mean... it's almost too strong
right now
I think you just need to try Slaughterer
tiny plinth
yee
forest coral
yeah like, in vermintide's fire sword right, it had infinite things it could set on fire within the cleave and had huge stagger. +the melee attack itself was weak, but the fire was strong
tiny plinth
i kinda just cleaves through everything without it anyways
forest coral
Darktide's swords are really high melee attack but weak dot on the blessing
naive junco
keep rolling for slaughterer and unstable power. and cleave through ragers.
forest coral
it also is limited in its cleave to an extent, it just makes the blessing redundant
you may as well hit the mob twice instead of setting it on fire for an extra tick of 12 damage or something like that lmao
or straight up one shot them with slaughterer stacks
tiny plinth
the fire's more for charge generation for me though
damage isn't really much of an issue rn, i just keep forgetting to brainburst
shadow wigeon
@tiny plinth The problem with fire is that you can't easily generate enough stacks for wildfire to do much damage.
Yeah it will get you a few warp charges,here and there.
But that's a pretty slow way to get charges
What staff are you building for? or gun
shadow wigeon
You can use melee with some guns though, or stab with a staff. Also melee.
tiny plinth
wouldn't anything on the 2ndary work in that case?
shadow wigeon
I mean fi you want to do it, replace carapace with +crit and Executor with Shred, or try the Bloodthirsty build, although I think it's much worse for setting the world n fire.
forest coral
if u really want fire, just use your purg and run ascendant blaze
wild fire is a fun novelty for hi intense hordes but if you really want to be effective
shadow wigeon
wouldn't anything on the 2ndary work in that case?
Shredder Autopistol feeds into Ascendant Blaze
forest coral
warp battery + ascendant blaze burns can clear the horde out instead of softening them in higher difficutlies
shadow wigeon
warp battery + ascendant blaze burns can clear the horde out instead of softenin...
I've actually been running Wildfire all day (w/ Slaughter/Unstable), and I'm not sure which I prefer now
shadow wigeon
Battery clears a horde quicker, but Wildfire does keep working for a long while, Warp Absorb runs for quite awhile
cyan portal
Wildfire buffed by slaughterer is lethal to hordes and results in infinitely spreading fire. It is very strong.
shadow wigeon
the dodge melee scene on psyker seems more fun
do what makes you happy
paper gate
so, i'm honestly stuck on what seems like a laughably easy penance, the "knock 7 enemies to their death at once" one, yall got any tips or good spots
digital loom
anywhere with a fall hazard is an attempt
near wyvern
so, i'm honestly stuck on what seems like a laughably easy penance, the "knock 7...
The mission where you have to take the batteries of the trains has that small bridge before the Valkyrie with an endless horde. There are other places but that's where you can farm it really quick if you absolutely need to do it now.
Just remember that:
- ults knock down power scales with the amount of warp charges you have
- the enemies have to die within a time window after ledging, not all drops have a kill box that is high enough
- consider a build that uses warp battery and quicken
near wyvern
anywhere with a fall hazard is an attempt
This isn't unfortunately the case, many places have kill boxes set too low
paper gate
i've actually been using a build with warp batter and quicken, so that's good at least
i've been using it with kinetic deflection, inner tranquility, and a deflector blessed power sword
really fun
paper gate
for some reason, warp unleashed doesnt seem to work with my power sword :(
and i like playing on lower difficulties as a melee focused psyker (yes i know heresy)
digital loom
This isn't unfortunately the case, many places have kill boxes set too low
i got mine on an espionage mission i think, just assumed because it was so random and easy
autumn smelt
i got mine on an espionage mission i think, just assumed because it was so rando...
oh probably the final bit of the torrent one with those thin bridges
digital loom
i dont remember
problem with doing anything a lot is your brain starts to filter out things
i know it was on a hab dreyko map
thats only mapset that is one long green blur
autumn smelt
thats only mapset that is one long green blur
yeah the torrent
cringe tileset
the mission with the spiral stair room of pain and misery at the very start
digital loom
i remember the bridges and walkways but i dont remember the order
i only remember which ones turn into a nightmare
on sight
autumn smelt
the mission with the spiral stair room of pain and misery at the very start
i feel like this room is the only place in the game where if anything, no matter how small, at all happens here, your chances of losing are astronomical
digital loom
although
i should probably start paying attention to the killboxes
since i only know a few spots to job a daemonhost as ogryn
this is something i started doing trial and error with to combat griefers
so if its a map with a fall hazard i can just lure the host over
instead of having to play nascar for 10 minutes
on psyker its non issue, obv
ionic needle
for some reason, warp unleashed doesnt seem to work with my power sword :(
what do you mean it doesn't work?
autumn smelt
probably cuz youre not on psyker when youre using a power sword, so the feat doest take effect
paper gate
so there's like, that little box that lets you know how many stacks of warp unleashed you have
on the staff, I can see that
but swap to power sword, it goes away
shadow quail
spice veldt
warp unleashed is a feat
and you don't get stacks with warp unleashed
the damage bonus you get scales linearly with peril
paper gate
...huh, ok then
paper gate
oooooooh
see, I thought it was like zealots more damage less health thing, where you get stacks
but it being warp nexus makes a lot more sense why I only saw it with my staff
olive ember
yeah warp unleashed is like the one thing in this game that scales off peril and isn't threshold/stack based
The calculation is literally boils down to something like +0.1 + 0.15 * peril%
true shadow
https://gyazo.com/08c073d7e8dfff7d5bd67f802b3f0a9e
thank you sire melk
static agate
Nice
I prefer slaughteter + deflector though
Still enough damage to kill asmuch
While tanking as a ... well, as a tank
digital loom
i use deflector quite a lot on deimos
ionic frost
Sometimes I wonder what the noob (newer player) psykers think after they ready up and I leave...don't need 3 psykers with deimos sword+purg staff and an ogryn... =)
forest coral
this is some nice bait sir
restive slate
You could say it's a... Master bait
forest coral
but in case it isn't, don't think anyone would really notice or care
spice veldt
i've had players who type in chat "oh 3 psykers" and just leave
tbf, they made a good decision by leaving games where I'm in
restive slate
Ammo hungry Vet with 3 psykers could be happy
ancient ivy
I like triple psyker cause I get all the ammo to myself. So long as they all bring different staves. triple purg is rough
restive slate
Hear all 3 psykers rage from shooting all the blue glowy heads
spice veldt
having to re-target enemies cuz all three targeted the same neemies
ancient ivy
okay spark heads. If your health bar looks like this and a sniper can down you from here, you need to reevaluate your curios. That is all have a nice day.
true shadow
I prefer slaughteter + deflector though
Still enough damage to kill asmuch
i have a great deflector sword. i just didnt have slaughterer 4
forest coral
well
if mobi and finesse swapped around, thats basically perfect stats
shame bout the perks tho
radiant lance
Yeah
forest coral
id grab it for the blessing
you never know if they'll ever buff it into relevancy
and IV comes around once a blue moon so may as well
radiant lance
you never know if they'll ever buff it into relevancy
True
true shadow
i had a hilarious obscurus purchase the other day
look at it and smile upon its majesty
forest coral
what did it end up as
true shadow
this is its current state and i have not rolled on it for fear of angering the emperor
primal radish
crazy clutch yesterday with deimos https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1798591928 also going live for 2 hrs, gun psyker only for now
true shadow
autopistol psyker moment
ionic needle
I like triple psyker cause I get all the ammo to myself. So long as they all bri...
Oh yeah of course you get to... keep all the... ammo... He he.
primal plume
This will always feel like a trap on Surge imo
Surge just feels like the staff thats "this is for CC, not killing"
summer prairie
everything is for killing, doesn't matter if the damage is lower
primal plume
some things are better than others at killing though
ionic frost
It kills...just not unarmored/infested...stop using it on the horde unless you're stunning nasties (not poxwalkers/groaners...)
left click machine-gun works on dreg shooters =)
spice veldt
if you're only using surge, it's a trap sure
primal plume
But thats the thing. It kills flak and armoured really fast without it
spice veldt
but warp unleashed also affects BB and melee
summer prairie
but wrack makes more sense with surge
ionic frost
surge needs illisi
I haven't tried wrack+kinetic flayer with surge yet
seems like it could be decent
I just wish surge could get blazing spirit =)
fallen lily
I need to change my 8% critical hit damage perk on my surge staff so something else. Any idea what perk would be most useful on a surge staff?
ionic frost
what's your other perk?
fallen lily
8% damage on groaners and poxwalkers
fallen lily
no
ionic frost
You'll want a better one
fallen lily
What do you mean I will? I DO want a better one, but I got this one
ionic frost
That'll do for now...but that's probably the 2nd worst perk it could have behind +1 stamina
fallen lily
bleh. alright. Probably just go for flak over the poxwalker and groaner damage
ionic frost
flak is nice for killing scab shooters quicker
fallen lily
when I do get crits (though rarely), I guess a bit more damage is somewhat useful
ionic frost
surge crits more than other staves
fallen lily
Oh, that's neat
ionic frost
look at your crit modifier
it says "melee critical chance" but it's really not
it applies to ranged, maybe melee too with the pathetic special action?
Critical Bonus
79% Critical Bonus is +20.9% crit chance
warp nexus blessing can get you more crits too
tho you'll probably want warp flurry
both is ideal
too bad it can't get blazing spirit =(
spice veldt
though it's a shame that the crit damage multiplier on the surge staff RMB is not particularly impressive
fallen lily
I luckily got tier 4 warp flurry on the staff
ionic frost
nice
fallen lily
My build is basically throwing out as many full charge lightning out as much as possible for the longest sustainable chaining
ionic frost
it came with that or you had to re-bless it?
fallen lily
it was just like that
ionic frost
nice
you can start off with some shorter charges to build up warp flurry if you need to...better than ppl getting shot =)
fallen lily
I can change the other blessing to whatever I want, though I don't have many blessing unlocked for the surge staff
Yeah, that's actually a good idea that
ionic frost
and you can hold sprint while charging and slide forward...if you didn't know
every staff can
fallen lily
I also run Quicken feat to get faster ult. Sometimes I just chain ults in a row when I get cooldown reduction on elite kill.
And brainburst chance on hit to passively build warp charges for quicken
ionic frost
I prefer AB with surge to kill large groups of shooters with a slaughterer force sword
spice veldt
voidstrike can't
you can keep your sprint if you begin charging, but you can not begin a sprint while RMBing
fallen lily
yeah, still slower than normal running speed though
it can get me close to enemies without breaking my chaining
so surprisingly useful, but still a trash blessing
But the circumstance does come up somewhat that I need to close the distance
ionic frost
my 2nd psyker has such good curios...+3 stam +19 health x2...42% corruption resist, 60% sniper damage resist =(
I had planned on deleting him at some point...
The item RNG is bothersome...we need shared inventories, or at least the ability to permanently gift it to another character. =)
and perk/blessing locks suck
fallen lily
Don't know what holds them back with sharing item inventory
ionic frost
hubris
spice veldt
the lack of shared curios is the only thing stopping me from making 4 more psykers
radiant lance
I haven't tried wrack+kinetic flayer with surge yet
Eh... It's OK. Other two feats are still better.
primal plume
Warp Unleashed or innter tranq for voidstrike?
uneven drift
Warp Unleashed.
muted obsidian
Does the 25% increased damage after brainburst fuck up the psykers monstrosity solo penance?
uneven drift
Shouldn't i believe.
muted obsidian
Killed 2 slug pukes back to back solo and no completion
uneven drift
Have you used only your BB?
muted obsidian
Yes
river sand
and nobody else did dmg ?
uneven drift
Well, that's strange. Either someone fucked your penance buy touching boss, you have some other sources of dmg or there are really some bugs.
cyan notch
did u do it on heresy
sterile vale
I just realised how confusing it is to have both a Surge staff and a Surge blessing
uneven drift
Well, you need to do 100% alone and 90% with BB. So idk, but most likely someone has ruined it for you.
summer prairie
90% of the damage has to be smite damage by one player and he has to land the killing blow
summer prairie
a barrel explosion or other similar damage can mess it up
ionic frost
I just realised how confusing it is to have both a Surge staff and a Surge bless...
If only surge staff could get surge blessing...
potent glade
what should I change
cyan notch
barrage to nexus
radiant lance
Well, you need to do 100% alone and 90% with BB. So idk, but most likely someone...
Wait what? Don't you only need to do 90% of the damage overalL
muted obsidian
Wait what? Don't you only need to do 90% of the damage overalL
90 has to be brainburst, rest don't matter as long you kill it
radiant lance
Gotcha
muted obsidian
Maybe the increased damage after brainbursting now counts as separete damage, I have no clue why the penance wont unlock
summer prairie
it's just a damage multiplier, unlikely
muted obsidian
Just did it 3rd time, no interruptions from other players. No luck.
muted obsidian
Do you have kinetic flayer?
No
ionic needle
Have you been running lacerations on all of the attempts?
uneven drift
Well. Mb something got fucked up. Do you have record?
Try to take off lacerations and see if it helps.
And kill whole monster with only BBs.
muted obsidian
Have you been running lacerations on all of the attempts?
Yes all of them, makes quick work of the bosses
I'll try without it from now on
ionic needle
Yeah try taking it off, it should only be a multiplier but maybe the game registers the extra damage as a different type than BB for some reason
near wyvern
Soulblaze 6 stacks ticking 40+ on a crusher with 140% rending lulz
BTW Atheneum Updated for the latest patch and added info for Rending + Brittleness behaviour & stacking
midnight phoenix
thoughts?
near wyvern
Obscurus š¤®
midnight phoenix
bad rating š¦
near wyvern
If you like Obscurus you gonna love Deimos
midnight phoenix
i was talking more about the stats not the type of sword but thanks
near wyvern
i was talking more about the stats not the type of sword but thanks
You gotta elaborate your questions a bit more if you want them to be interpreted more precisely.
cyan notch
damn all that for 40 damage
uneven drift
i was talking more about the stats not the type of sword but thanks
Stats are bad. Like, 307 base is pretty trash.
midnight phoenix
You gotta elaborate your questions a bit more if you want them to be interpreted...
lol trying to gaslight me cause you didn't understand my question
you do you i guess
whatever makes you sleep
near wyvern
Yeah I'm sorry I don't know thoughts = is this a good base stat value, I am such a dumass
For a fresh 30you wanna look at stuff that is 350+
And that is assuming you want to do Damnation
If you wanna do malice or herecy all the weapons they sell at lvl 30 function just fine
ornate hamlet
force swords are anemic without slaughterer
you want to hunt for it
out of like 11 blessings
spice veldt
well they're average without slaughterer but still quite fine
ornate hamlet
near wyvern
Yes but Illisi will get so good with Slaughterer
spice veldt
I still despise the narrative that force swords are somehow crap without slaughterer
ornate hamlet
they're usable yes, but it doesn't compare to other busted stuff
spice veldt
I heard it pre-patch and I'm somehow hearing it after the patch
near wyvern
They aren't
My Illisi can one shot pox walker and groaners easy without any buffs
But it's just that Slaughterer is so good for horde clear you don't really wanna pass on it.
near wyvern
I heard it pre-patch and I'm somehow hearing it after the patch
Reddit speaking?
spice veldt
pre-patch people conflating the obscurus' shit combos with its performance
then after the patch from chino
near wyvern
they're usable yes, but it doesn't compare to other busted stuff
Deimos does fine without Slaugherer if you have a horde clear staff. I use mine with Unstable Power so I can delete mutants with a single 2nd heavy.
ornate hamlet
Deimos does fine without Slaugherer if you have a horde clear staff. I use mine ...
i know they can do fine, but not running slaughterer is a huge mistake
š„¹
imo at least
ember hornet
it's like when someone runs headtaker instead of slaughterer on hammer
cause they say kills are too hard to stack
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long osprey
I use the blessing that do more damage with peril on illisi
ember hornet
slaughterer + unstable illisi = very OP
long osprey
I use the remove peril on weakpoints though
long osprey
With trauma I need to
ornate hamlet
well i'm sure someone can crunch numbers and see whats best
ember hornet
ah
ornate hamlet
but imo every weapon with slaughterer should use slaughterer
spice veldt
it's a bonus to get some extra damage at high peril
ember hornet
actually using a staff instead of maining illisi lol
spice veldt
but I'd want to stay at low peril if I can
just so I can spam the special on elites
very annoying to have to ever press S
long osprey
Got different swords depending on staff
ember hornet
I just want to make fun of how busted illisi is so I stay at max peril and just one shot everything, granted I'm not in psyker mood anymore
ornate hamlet
its power sword levels stronk
spice veldt
with the only con being that we don't have a power cycler equivalent
but our special is faster, and our heavies come out faster
ornate hamlet
infinite dodge
ember hornet
and the added benefit that illisi can actually one shot everything depending on your perks
minus crushers and maulers
ornate hamlet
i wonder if it will get nerfed
spice veldt
I'd be surprised if it didn't get nerfed in some shape or form
ornate hamlet
well they keep power sword
spice veldt
though the power sword has meh mobility and is slower
ornate hamlet
might as well let it stay
spice veldt
and the illisi is on Psyker with our 0.5s stam regen delay, and with infinite dodges, and with a 0.2 second dodge cooldown compared to vet's 0.25
halcyon gate
anyone needs help with monster malleum penance
ornate hamlet
it's definitely on the power sword levels of power
all the power sword nerf really did is gate the weapon behind power cycler
the +5 swings should never have existed in the first place
near wyvern
With trauma I need to
why on earth do you use illisi with trauma? mutants are the only enemies trauma cannot CC outside of monstrosities so it only makes sense to run deimos with it for taking that mutant out the moment they reach you
spice veldt
illisi is very braindead to use and I like it for running through a map with just melee
feels faster than charging up trauma most times if the group isn't particularly dense
and there's the toughness regen from melee, and aiming the trauma staff takes brainpower
near wyvern
you will get used to the trauma aiming
ember hornet
nah arcotash you clearly have no experience
spice veldt
I also feel very uncomfortable with trauma throwing enemies around most of the time in regards to hordeclear
also too much brainpower to manage the enemies that I've knocked around or staggered
ember hornet
I was running illisi trauma for a bit to knock down ogryns
but I also ran illisi revolver cause it's really just illisi show
tall temple
How many hours has it even been since illisi was released
spice veldt
I inadvertently ran a few games without a feat selected in my lvl10 or lvl25 lines and beat them fine with the illisi
so no warp unleashed or warp charges at all
still beat those games fine with the powah of da illisi
just short of a month since the new force swords were released
near wyvern
@spice veldt if you want braindead trauma gameplay get yourself a Nexus Spirit trauma. Hug your vet and aim at your feet, that's all you need to be effective.
the outer blast staggers instead of throwing and because of nexus spirit it can actually deal damage
spice veldt
that means giving up focused channeling which I don' tlike
near wyvern
why do you need focused channeling ???
spice veldt
having to actually look at my toughness or pay attention whether I'm sprinting or not
too much brainpower
I like to be at the very front of my team
right into shooters
I dislike being in cover at all
if I'm not peeking and killing 2+ enemies every time, then that's too little for me
and aiming from certain positions takes too much brainpower
near wyvern
so you'll just gladly take hp damage?
spice veldt
I like to just be wildly out of position to aim my trauma staff
sometimes
but the focused channeling also pertains to sprinting while casting the secondary
since getting shot will always stagger you out of your sprint
very annoying when I'm trying to sprint-slide
spice veldt
I also dislike DoTs because that's time that my teammates can use to kill the enemies
I must have all the kills
and being forward usually means that the enemies are aggroed onto me
near wyvern
ehh
spice veldt
and loner spawns as well
and for specialists when I'm out of coherency
all da kills
it's a strategy that will consistently make you double the damage dealt of your teammates
though I've been playing more safely lately since I want to actually win missions and get dockets from them
hard stratus
anyone knows a discord for achievement and penance hunting?
summer prairie
by the way pygex, BB hands is the same as 50% quell speed. Quelling should take 6 seconds if your staff has 0% quell speed
As the guide suggests it's the same as 0%
near wyvern
They changed that?
Cause last time I timed it it was the same
At least for auto quell
I guess I gotta time it again
summer prairie
I don't know about autoquell
near wyvern
Kk, gotta time the manual quell again then
summer prairie
I've tested it in-game but you can also tell it based on the warp charge templates lua as if a weapon doesn't have a stat, it's lerped to 50% value and vent_duration_modifier for BB is 0.75 - 1.25 and 50% of that is 1. The staff range is 0.5 - 1.5 and 50% of that is also 1
near wyvern
Right, so BB hands and FS are not actually 0% for manual quelling, are they 50% for auto quelling then as well?
summer prairie
If it works like everything else, I'd expect so
near wyvern
Aight, so that's where I failed then, I assumed BB and FS were 0%
summer prairie
autoquell ranges are 0.6-1.4 for everything
granite dust
I have new monster toy ... just miss +5 crit on crit chance on perks and Warp Nexus IV (20%) on Blessing š
long wharf
Trash it. Cloud isn't a dump stat
cyan notch
flurry is good
granite dust
Trash it. Cloud isn't a dump stat
I've checked and literally don't see any major difference between CR 58% and 77% (current staff) :
long wharf
Cloud affects the range as well
granite dust
Cloud affects the range as well
Good point - will check it.
@long wharf - on single target range distance between 58% (right) and 77% (left) it's literally 3-4 steps...
and the same is for Secondary attack
long wharf
That's good to know
cyan notch
more range is more range
granite dust
more range is more range
more everything is more everything - for me it's the last important stat
it more affect area cone on close range
summer prairie
it's easily more important than burn
which only matters for monsters and maybe slightly ogryns though not really
cyan notch
up to u buddy
static agate
I heard some mention Nexus + Spirit on truma staff. But Why blazing spirit on Trauma staff? Its only for crits, and by default psyker only has 5% crit chance (10% if add 5% as perk on the staff)
Its not like 4 stacks of soulfire does alot of damage.
granite dust
which only matters for monsters and maybe slightly ogryns though not really
with +5% crit chance perk on staff and WN IV (+20%) from 80% peril you literally burn everything most of the time with crit procs...
karmic copper
which one of these is better? and which stat should i swap to flak of the 4, depending on which one is better?
i alreayd have both obv. minimal cost to make one just to have it*
just something other than illi and deimos to goof around with
i find the push attack damage to be significantly less than the light swings, tho its horizontal. running down to zero stam i find to be a hassle tbh, for All or Nothing. rather use the stam for other things
tropic vigil
i would use the 519 one
granite dust
I don't think there is best / worst - every stuff have merit / flaws in encounter scenarios ...
shadow wigeon
I heard some mention Nexus + Spirit on truma staff. But Why blazing spirit on Tr...
It's a bit of a meme, but it works alright. Trauma easily keeps peril high, so you can get 30% crit fairly well. You don't need a full charge to crit, so you can dump small stacks out there.
It helps if there is someone else benefitting from the blaze stacks, but with wildfire they're going to spread at least, and multi hits on one target aren't uncommon, so your stacks will hopefully be 7 or so when they die and spread it.
granite dust
and it's connected with build and meele weapon ... so ...
gilded viper
surge is the best staff, cause it get me to role play as a bad guy in a star war movie 
shadow wigeon
@static agate You can also battery for 6 charge AB and then you're playing a hybrid burn/cc role. It's not optimal, but it is fun to see blaze stacks all over the place. It's really hard to figure out which stacks are actually high enough to matter, since you can't really control application, though.
ie you can't top up a target easily with fire trauma. You just blast and hope.
I preferred fire trauma + wildfire and just enjoy the chaos
runic gate
I haven't played in a month or so, I hear Psyker + Autopistol is really good now. What # Pistol is best?
olive ember
I don't think there is best / worst - every stuff have merit / flaws in encounte...
Nah surge staff is weakest and needs buffs
runic gate
you just need pinning fire and blaze away on it
Just made this, does this get the pistol bois approval?
runic gate
I hate you
rolled from a blue I had laying around from months ago. I always by good rolled 380s for meta shift lol. Just gotta learn how to play this build now
olive ember
Just casually gets basically a perfect roll with a pinning 4 and blaze away 3
And decent perks as well ffs
Just swap unyielding to maniac and yeah
runic gate
Just swap unyielding to maniac and yeah
Yeah I was wondering what perks are BIS for this. I know flak is usually a solid choice but wasn't sure about unyielding
fallow falcon
Just made this, does this get the pistol bois approval?
Unyielding to maniac and you're set
runic gate
Thanks fellas
fallow falcon
Unyielding isn't a bad option, maniac tends to be better though
Let's you deal with ragers, mutants, flamers rushing you
Which is mainly what you want the shredder for
hearty python
Maniac/flak leaves out crushers, maulers, bulwarks, reapers, hounds, and snipers, covers just about everything else
meager plinth
Most unyielding it's better to use BB
runic gate
It has been done.
fallow falcon
And because you're psyker you can just BB anything shredder doesn't cover
hearty python
So, rangers, flamers, trappers, bombers, shotgunners, scab gunners, scab normies, muties all covered by the maniac/flak combo
I forgot dreg gunners are "unarmored", but are 1 shot BB
fallow falcon
The damage on the shredder is so comically high they still die in a fraction of a second
hearty python
Not rangers, ragers
@fallow falcon that too
Especially when paired with kinetic flayer
fallow falcon
Depending on the situation, I often have max peril from using BB while a horde approaches
Swap to the shredder and mow down everything in one volley from the sheer volume of damage buffs
olive ember
Enjoy it while it lasts btw
Autopistol is prob gonna get nerfed
Itās basically a meta choice on 3 of 4 classes
So yeah
meager plinth
Good for you
cyan notch
same with illisi theyre both cures for insomnia
fallow falcon
Its enjoyable on the psyker imo solely because you're rapidly swapping between all 3 weapons depending on the situation
olive ember
I mean if you rly want to sweat
fallow falcon
With vet you just run and gun nonstop
olive ember
Run knife revolver kek
ruby plover
same with illisi theyre both cures for insomnia
i wish they weren't
i actually like both weapons
i like how they work together
and then they're just so disgustingly overpowered both in isolation and together that its not remotely fun to play the loadout
left basin
IS BLAZING SPIRIT ANY GOOD ON ANY STAFF?
olive ember
IF YOU USE BLAZING SPIRIT MAKE SURE YOU ALSO USE WARP NEXUS
shadow wigeon
FINALLY WERE ALL GETTING EXCITED ABOUT BLAZING SPIRIT
grizzled jasper
HI
olive ember
Reddit told me surge staff is best
I was right all along
All you guys were just trying to gaslit me into using the trauma staff
shut matrix
Believing Reddit lmao
Why isn't blazing spirit on Surge
Could make it actually fun to use
shut matrix
fun
olive ember
Cadia would yet stand if people stopped having fun smh
long wharf
oof, low blow
near wyvern
Cadia would have destroyed itself if it heard about the advice people give on Reddit
near wyvern
You are free to take any advice you can get. Some are just made with rigourous testing and thought behind, some are made by players who run in, die and complain where's the team.
