psyker-class

[ionic needle]

Highest I had on flurry was 2

So yeah

[long wharf]

I really want W&R to be good

it's an interesting idea

but even 4 stacks over 4m isn't enough

and yeah, Kinetic Flayer isn't the right choice for this build idea

WB it is

[idle bay]

If only W&R feat worked like Blazing Spirit Blessing....

With NO BB requirement, just from crits

[long wharf]

but then that'd negate the blessings

no need for that

a feat that gives additional utility to BB is good

just make it on any BB hit

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, it's not. I have it a try today and the synergy still isn't there, on damnation anyway.

[idle bay]

Not negate Blazing spirit blessing, but make it a LOT stronger. W&B + Blazing spirit and bang 8 stacks! And 8 stacks is significat DoT

[long wharf]

do the stacks actually add like that?

or is each stack a separate dot?

[shadow wigeon]

They add up

[summer prairie]

all sources add up, even from your allies

[radiant lance]

I played around with Wrack & Ruin, the buff is nice but I still feel like it needs extra radius

[olive ember]

How does that actually work tho

Cuz like

What happens if one guy has warp unleashed and another guy doesn’t

Does the enemy just take 25% more burn damage

[summer prairie]

It uses the buffs of the person who applied the first stack

[olive ember]

Can’t that be…. A bit troll

[long wharf]

honestly, unless you're on heresy+, the enemy density just isn't high enough to make standing there trying to BB an elite in a crowd worthwhile

[radiant lance]

I've been testing it on Damnation, still doesn't feel super worth

[long wharf]

especially if you don't catch the group before it starts breaking up as faster enemies run ahead of the elites

[radiant lance]

THIS is the problem

[olive ember]

Tbf if you are malice or below it doesn’t rly matter what you run

[long wharf]

the higher the difficulty, the less time you have to spend trying to BB things

[radiant lance]

Not sure about that tbh

If there is no Veteran or the Veteran isn't that good you're going to be BBing a lot

[long wharf]

it's more beneficial for me to whip out the Illisi and charge the crowd than to backpedal and try to BB the elite in the middle of the crowd before the crowd catches up to me

[long wharf]

this is generally true, last run I did was with two ogryns and a zealot, I was BBing all over the place

and even still it didn't feel like W&R was really pulling its weight

[olive ember]

Btw how did you feel about WU vs tranquility for surge staff

[long wharf]

I uh didn't test it yet

was messing around with W&R

[dire coral]

anyone who knows if bloodthirsty is worth taking over uncanny strike T4 on a Mk5 ??

[long wharf]

mk5 what?

[ionic frost]

Make wrack and ruin apply soulblaze even if someone kills the enemy before brain burst goes off... =)

[olive ember]

Illisi I assume

[dire coral]

yh

[olive ember]

That’s the only mk 5 with bloodthirsty i can think of

I’d say yes but eh

Most people run slaughterer + unstable power on illisi

[dire coral]

Yh i have Slaughterer on it, but unstable i feel is abit lacking, rather have something else

Uncanny or bloodthirsty

[olive ember]

Deflector

[shadow wigeon]

Bloodthirsty isn't great really.

[olive ember]

That’s what I run

Kek

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, Deflector for sure

I would probably take shred over Uncanny now that quell is os fast.

[dire coral]

Deflector is fine, it's great, but i have learned to live without it

[shadow wigeon]

You got flip it around, learn to embrace it.... facetank the shooter gang, and then merc them all

[dire coral]

I was that person, a great leader some might say, leading the pack, but now i am a turret

that goes brrrrt

[shadow wigeon]

Oh sorry.... Uncanny not Unstable.
Interesing don't know how punchy uncanny is.

[dire coral]

Well i got shred in the bank, so imma test BT and see how i like it, else i just throw it in the trash

[dire coral]

Dang really, i got a T4 on it that i have to sack if i want BT

That's harsh

[shadow wigeon]

BT is much too fiddly. It was great before the nerf.

[dire coral]

nerf?

what's a who now?

[shadow wigeon]

It was nerfed quite a bit

[dire coral]

That went right past me

[shadow wigeon]

It used give crits for 5s

[dire coral]

You can't be for real, i have been hunting for that mf for atleast 50k plast worth...

[shadow wigeon]

Which was quite fun, and had synergy with Blazing

[dire coral]

Hmm... So i have BiS rn... But what if i just went rogue..

[olive ember]

It only crits for next attack now

Yeah idk why they nerfed bloodthirsty

[leaden thunder]

apperantly it was a "bug"

which is bs

[olive ember]

Turned amazing blessing into basically dogshit

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah it really had a neat unique function before.

[leaden thunder]

shoulda just made all the bloodthirstys work the same way

[olive ember]

It’s a “bug” like how soulblaze dmg nerf was “intended”

Speaking of which

[dire coral]

I am abit bummed out by all of this, i had no idea...

[olive ember]

They never addressed infernus for recon lasgun

[shadow wigeon]

You have Slaughter and Uncanny already?

[dire coral]

yh

https://gyazo.com/91e5b85b1c596c64c615f4c55f0ebac3

there's my bby

[olive ember]

I mean

Rending is kinda eh unless you rly hate carapace

Probably shred or unstable or something idk

Or once again

Deflector kekw

[dire coral]

Yh i get ya, dancing wíth a crusher does happen but enough rare for it to be niche

[shadow wigeon]

I've never tested Uncanny so I don't know how good it is. But for sure damage I would take Shred for less fiddly, and Unstable if you want to eDgE pErIlS

[dire coral]

I'll be real with ya, i don't feel it that much, slaughterer i think does most of the hard lifting

But i might be wrong here

i do not have the stats

[olive ember]

It’s mostly to hit breakpoints iirc

At max peril

Like the once in a blue moon one shot bulwark kek

Or was it one shot reaper

Idr

[leaden thunder]

always edge

[olive ember]

One of the two can get one shot on illisi

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, there's no question about that. Your second blessing after Slughter is just tweaking.

[leaden thunder]

gotta have that damage reduction and bonus damage from edging tzeentch

[dire coral]

Real and true

Shit man, fatshark why do ya have to be the way that you are and ruin my fantasies..

[shadow wigeon]

I had a fire sword for about a week before they nerfed it.... it was pretty rad. Illisi would have put it over the moon, though. (we only had obscurus in the before times)

[dire coral]

It's like listening to an elder about the glory days lole

[olive ember]

Then you are to young to listen to the elders talk about the dark ages

pre-launch psyker

[dire coral]

oh no i was there

The very pitch black days

....

The Stacks, where did they go, are they save?? Are they alright?

[ionic needle]

Fuck I hated it before they fell off one by one

[olive ember]

Lol before you blew up at like 85 peril

Pushing with the force sword generated peril

Stack gen was ass

[dire coral]

there were so many times where that happen when i thought i was in the wrong, gaslighted and gaged

[olive ember]

I mean I got Reddit gold for ranting about how shit psyker was

[ionic needle]

It's always been the most fun class for me though

[shadow wigeon]

Well the fact that it's just gotten better and better over months has been quite rad

[radiant lance]

And people actually complained about it being removed

[coarse dagger]

okay

thats new

[shadow wigeon]

Bunch of blessings broke in the update.

Just the text

[coarse dagger]

ah so it works just the text is borked?

ok

[fierce sinew]

they heard us talking shit about their monkey tooltips

"fine! no more tooltips!"

[olive ember]

Honestly would prefer that

Kekw

No more “vicious strike” incidents

[fierce sinew]

hey this way little timmy is forced to google and might actually end up knowing what things do

[shadow wigeon]

too soon

i am still in mourning

[olive ember]

Don’t worry it’s not a bug, they have fixed the description to properly say +stagger

[shadow wigeon]

How many ways can you add stagger to DC now... its limitless

[olive ember]

Too many ways

And all useless

[round mural]

Is anyone else like void staff more than the others o.O

[leaden thunder]

it literally has the most stagger blessings out of any weapon

[void mural]

Did they actually remove peril gen from pushing with FS?

I've always been careful to only do the first half of the push since they added peril gen to the second part

[spice veldt]

the push has no peril cost, but the push-attack does

[fresh reef]

since SB is considered separate from fire now, does it also count as warp?

[spice veldt]

at least in the meatgrinder, Soulblaze kills procced warp absorption pre-patch

[potent kernel]

any tips on finishing cliffhanger penance

[river sand]

look for an edge, wait for a horde -> profit

[olive ember]

The push attack has peril gen but originally it was tied to the push

(The FS “push” is the stun part and the actual shove is the “push attack”.) They basically moved the peril gen so now it won’t gen peril unless you actually want to push attack

[void mural]

Ah, so originally the first part of the push had peril gen?

[olive ember]

Yep

[void mural]

So, I've been doing it correctly to not gen peril currently

[olive ember]

And the second part was free but didn’t rly matter since you have to gen peril from the first part

Yeah you doing it right

[stiff delta]

LFG Monstronum Penance

[void mural]

Ok, wasn't sure if they changed something, but I think that's been the same since the official release

[olive ember]

Yes

[void mural]

Because I know in the alpha right before release, there was no peril gen at all

[olive ember]

The pre launch psyker was so bad that they basically had a small rework done within the first patch of the game

[void mural]

Right before launch? The only think I remember that changed were nerfs?

Like a huge increase in BB peril gen

[potent kernel]

so like a good level with ledges near the start?

what is?

lol

[void mural]

The level that ends with the hack on the stairway and then the two bridges into the final hack

Bring a trauma staff and just knock giant hordes off the bridges

I got the penance by complete accident by doing that

[potent kernel]

ugh i dont have a good truma staff

all purgatus

lmao

[void mural]

I mean, just grab whatever your highest base rated trauma staff is

[potent kernel]

i can make a decent one

[void mural]

Can literally be a grey

[potent kernel]

so u know the names of any of these levels

[void mural]

Nah man, that shit is way too confusing

[potent kernel]

lmao

thanks for the help

it was somewhat helpful

[olive ember]

#📢news-bulletin message

[potent kernel]

the trauma staff part

[olive ember]

Literally first patch after pre launch beta went live

Because of how shit psyker was

[golden elbow]

anyone else get the glitch where youre looking for a strike team for like 20 minutes

[void mural]

But it's the one inside that has the servitor stacks that you hack for security, and then cross the bridge and hack the actual servitor stack you wanted access to in the middle

[shadow onyx]

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/yyasp6/they_somehow_made_psyker_even_less_fun_to_play/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

A post I made about how shit psyker was back when it came out

[void mural]

Ah, I'm talking about before that, when you could do about 5 BB with no talents

[olive ember]

Oh yeah

Well I actually preferred that but meh

It is what it is

Each BB was like 30 peril back then so it was just

[void mural]

Yeah, that sounds like psyker on release

[olive ember]

Lots of BB then vent

And then BB again

[void mural]

Was pretty bleh at the start

[olive ember]

Idk

People in the CBT were stupid or something

They thought psyker was OP based on like

[void mural]

I remember loving psyker in the beta, but then he felt like shit on release

[olive ember]

Uprising and malice gameplay

[void mural]

Completely dumped him till some patches happened

[olive ember]

I mean psyker on pre launch day was like

Passive quell was faster than active quell

You had to wait to 85 peril to not blow up

So staves felt like shit

FS felt like shit
BB was a joke

Like if you were stuck into a group of shooters

You basically afk’ed

Because passive quell was faster than active quell and you just had to wait

[void mural]

Yup!

[fresh reef]

how does this even happen lol

[lilac tapir]

someone messed up the loc files with the latest update 😄

[runic nest]

is it me or is voidstrike a bit meh?

I just tried mine again, it's got very good stats, quell on weakspot and flurry, and yeah, sure, when a horde lines up right, it's infinite headshot time

[obtuse moth]

its not great against elites and falls off more in higher difficulties but its fine

[runic nest]

but outside of that, when they're not lined up like that...

this was t4

[obtuse moth]

quell cancel if you're overwhelmed

or surrounded

[runic nest]

I felt like it didn't do anything all that well

quell cancel?

[obtuse moth]

its ok for making space

yea immediately after you shoot tap reload and let go and fire another

its not good for damage obviously but its good for making space, cc, or rolling for blazing spirit procs

[runic nest]

ah, neat

[obtuse moth]

i call it machine gunning

[runic nest]

yeah, that'll help

but still, it seems like kind of a jack of all trades, master of none deal

and I'm not good enough to work with that xD

[obtuse moth]

its speciality is long hallways and ranged damage

i back up into a corner the most with void

you can sit there pretty and cover people

don't be afraid to fire at the ground either. quell canceling ruins warp flurry btw, if you want to use warp flurry just fire two zero charge time shots to get the ball rolling

[runic nest]

thanks for the tips

[edgy kite]

If you're overwhelmed and there's a horde in front of you, stop trying to use the staff and pull out your melee weapon.

[ember sentinel]

voidstrike is my favorite cause theres very few situations i dislike it in

can take out a horde from afar, goes through a lot of it well, can deal with shooters without doing slow BB or LMB (which is fine on other staffs but can take a while)

very versatile

it does kinda suck up close but thankfully illsi and deimos exist now

oh its also bad at killing elites but thats usually not a huge issue

[onyx frigate]

I really hope they won't end up nerfing the new force swords, it'd make me sad, they're very fun to use

[ember sentinel]

yeah im hoping so too

id kinda understand if they did nerf at least illsi

but it would make me somewhat sad cause i love those weapons

[edgy kite]

Deimos is pretty overpowered

tbf

[ember sentinel]

ideally they just buff the other stuff and give us a new difficulty or something just cause nerfing more often than buffing in PVE is a little weird imo

unless something is so good the other 3 players dont play the game

[edgy kite]

That's how you get power creep.

[shadow wigeon]

Ok this is unironically my favourite purg build now
Focused is actually really fun, I did not appreciate it before.

[edgy kite]

oof 75% burn

So close

[ember sentinel]

i mean you could get power creep but if the difficulty can keep up with it they should be fine

id at least prefer you make weapons that are unusable good first

and then maybe tone the top tier stuff down if they really feel its needed

[shadow wigeon]

It was a meme staff, i barely notice it anyway b

[ember sentinel]

if that staff had the burn breakpoint it would be

pretty much perfect

[shadow wigeon]

Also Wildfire is growing on me with this staff

[ember sentinel]

unyielding is a little unfort though

but better than the really bad stuff

[shadow wigeon]

Nah I roll it my purga often for bosses.

Warp Absorption + Focused + Flurry is super aggressive flame staff. Very fun.

[ember sentinel]

thats def the most interesting flame build ive seen

most people run tried and true flurry/nexus

and then the usual feats

[shadow wigeon]

I'm enjoying this way more. Much more aggressive.

I was als suspicious of how much Nexus was actually helping

[ember sentinel]

Nexus is pretty decent imo but theres also not a ton of good purge blessings

like run and gun is not good lol

[shadow wigeon]

My feeling right now is that Nexus made no difference

And that Focused/Flurry is stronger because I spend much more time flaming.

And I prefer aggressive play style which this permits

[ember sentinel]

Purge with flurry is probably good enough on its own to do a lot of stuff with the 2nd blessing

[shadow wigeon]

It is, I've tried them all a this point, and Focused made the most noticeable difference. You can stack flurry even faster because you dont care as much about positioning thanks to Focused.

[ember sentinel]

what are the other purge blessings?

i know theres blazing and run and gun

[shadow wigeon]

No blazing
Focused, Barrage, Nexus, Flurry, Run

Anyway anyone lookin for a fresh feel on purg, Try Focused/Flurry + Warp Absorption

[late yew]

Something with servers?

[lilac tapir]

I would if I didn't fall into the Shredder Autopistol + Illisi trap haha, having way too much fun with that combo

[shadow wigeon]

Yes, you have to get through that first, that's a fun ride.

[late yew]

How to say you have bad taste without actually saying it

[lilac tapir]

Guilty as charged 😄 I was main purge before that though, I promise to get back to staves soon... as soon as this stops being so much fun 😄

[ember sentinel]

I could never get into autopistol psyker

I dont even dislike gun psyker

I use mk12 las gun on them

Idk what it is

I do prefer staffs to gun on psyker tho

[lilac tapir]

Mk12 is definitely on my list at some point, waiting on a good roll with Ghost and the anti-stagger thing combo (forgot what the other blessing is called).

[olive ember]

Nah gun psyker is legit one of the meta builds

Some people have this whole stigma against gun psykers

[tidal crane]

was looking for some people to help with Malleous Monstronum penance

[ember sentinel]

If you ping the matchmaking people are usually down to help

[lilac tapir]

I mean maybe I was bad with staves before, I don't know, but since going Shredder + Illisi I'm killing most of pretty much everything in all games, even sometimes stealing kills from vets 😄 And cherry on top is melting charging mutants before they finish screaming lol.

[ember sentinel]

Shredder illsi is one of the strongest combos in the game rn

[north solstice]

might have better luck asking an ogryn/someone with slab

[ember sentinel]

So you will def kill everything

[lilac tapir]

Don't get me wrong, I love purga build, especially with Deimos, but it feels so... slow compared to Shredder + Illisi in the current state of things 🙂

[ember sentinel]

Deimos actually has better mobility

Iirc

But infinite dodges make it not a huge deal in my exp

[leaden thunder]

it is literally faster to side dodge with it then sprint

[ember sentinel]

Lol

[ionic needle]

Illisi + Shredder is the most fun I've had in this game

[cold geode]

ugh, please revert the plasma gun changes.... every fucking vet right now has one

and most dont know how to use them

[ember sentinel]

I need to use that

I love plasma gun

[ionic needle]

I try going back to staffs every once in a while and I'm bored out of my mind

[lilac tapir]

this + 3rd person mod 🙂

= new game for me

[ionic needle]

Oh no, one of the best parts of these games is the first person

[ember sentinel]

How many people blowing themselves up lol

[lilac tapir]

generally I agree but I love seeing my character for a change

[cold geode]

its worse than low level psykers

[ember sentinel]

Too bad

Its really good if you can get good with it

[spice veldt]

I guess that's why they changed it so that players recover all of their toughness on being revived

[fresh steeple]

so I just rolled this up from a blue

gotta find level 4 Unstable now 😛

[late yew]

is this the build for surge?

[fresh steeple]

are you talking to me?

[late yew]

[fresh steeple]

that's an earnest question. I didn't know if I missed an earlier convo

no, I don't really use Surge atm. Haven't for weeks. I typically use Trauma. If I used Surge I'd probably run with Illisi instead.

[late yew]

[fresh steeple]

Flak, or Maniac... I'm thinking Maniac because I can already one-shot Scab Ragers at 0 stacks and 0 peril, and one-shot Maulers at some intervening point between 0/0 and 6/100

[spice veldt]

I vote for maniac

[fresh steeple]

gonna be on hard lookout for level 4 Unstable now 😛 I'm sure I passed it up many times in the past from Melk and just didn't bother to buy it, but I haven't seen it since the new swords became popular

gonna have to drill the "I don't have Deflector, I can't facetank shotgunners" mantra into my brain

[shadow wigeon]

Count how many times you still raise your block when bullets

[fresh steeple]

I've sorta been training myself away from the practice. But the one meaningful weakness of Trauma is its range, and I feel really stupid sometimes in gunner-heavy rooms when none of my teammates prepared for it either

[ionic frost]

machine-gun left click =)

[fresh steeple]

actually left what should have been a chill Heresy scrip run last night, in what I think might be my first deliberate mid-map quit ever, because my teammates were two flamer zealots and a surge psyker who wouldn't use BB, and I was therefore tasked with killing every gunner with nothing but BB spam. Highly unenjoyable.

[ionic frost]

Even better are surge psykers who spam surge on the horde, but not on poxbursters...

[fresh steeple]

they were doing that, too

[ionic frost]

lol

[fresh steeple]

I don't know if I even saw them pull out a melee weapon

[ionic frost]

Melee's scary yo...they die instantly when in melee range so they surge everything!

[fresh steeple]

I was there for about 10 minutes before one of them killed themselves with a self-inflicted off-field explosion, and the other two were down to sub-20% HP before our first medicae. Most doomed run I've ever been witness to.

[ionic frost]

I do kinda wish this game had a "Trial" to be able to move up to the next higher difficulty...

To teach/see if you learned certain basics...

Like meleeing...

[fresh steeple]

legit 10 minutes to get to the first medicae station. On a Heresy map without modifiers.

[ionic frost]

Ouch

[ember sentinel]

Love when the vet on damnation gets tossed back and forth by a mutant

Generally i have good luck with damnation players though

[spice veldt]

straight up tripling or quadrupling the damage of surge-only psykers

[ember sentinel]

Even if they arent carrying there fine

[spice veldt]

better than shield-only ogryns I suppose

[ember sentinel]

I used to like shield ogryns but that was pre damnation

Now id prefer they can just kill things

Plus shield doesn't work properly anyway

[umbral beacon]

guys i just think i found the rarest teammate

a veteran that didnt immediately start blasting whatever i was about to brain bust

[ember sentinel]

No way

[umbral beacon]

they normally switch target to whatever im about to BB, completely ignoring their previous target

i think the glow of the brain burst attracts them

[ember sentinel]

The scoreboard calls to them

[umbral beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/moth-light-bulb-gif-11535753

i play each class equally (for the weeklies, then i go touch grass) and tbh... i think the Vets are definitely the Kerillians of Darktide

[lilac tapir]

I was running a map and suddenly certain lights went out, similar to power interruption mission but it wasn't, when we moved to the next area it was all normal again - I wonder if it's the servers or just my own PC did that 😄

[ember sentinel]

Was it like that for everyone

[umbral beacon]

i've not experienced that, but that would be cool

[lilac tapir]

one other guy noticed that too, the others didn't

[umbral beacon]

some areas with modifiers

[ember sentinel]

Yeah power goes out occasionally

[lilac tapir]

that's super cool if that's the case

[ember sentinel]

Its not an actual thing

Probably just some weird instance there

[olive ember]

Tbh Surge damage is so small you can prob run any damage increase

anything besides garbage like poxwalker/groaner or infested will help it

even flak despite the extra damage it does them

even unarmoured

[hollow dove]

Is there a decent repository of info psyker/guide?

[cyan notch]

surge does same damage to unarmoured as infested

[olive ember]

well yes

but infested is poxwalkers

and unarmoured involves stuff like dreg shooters

hell yeah

just how I like my specials

not a threat at all

I haven't actually played game since patch

still another hour till I Get back ugh

[tropic vigil]

sorry if incorrect place to post/ask, but what should i swap for deflector?

exorcist probably right?

[mental rock]

the real play is to swap exorcist for uncanny strike

deflector is meh imo

[olive ember]

you don't have slaughterer

thats the main thing you want on any FS

[mental rock]

oh yeah get slaughterer for sure

[shadow wigeon]

You don't need exorcist, but you do want slaughterer more than deflector. However, you can swap those around later anyway

[tropic vigil]

ok

ty ill prioritize that

[fresh steeple]

I'll have you know that my muscle memory nearly got me killed three times "defending" against gunners since this weapon swap

I'm missing my Jedi Force Field already

[mental rock]

skill issue

kek

[tropic vigil]

deflector is fun it makes me feel like a jedi

[fresh steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-right-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-5292336

[tropic vigil]

but occasionally it does feel like you have to go out of your way to use it.

still fun

[olive ember]

Simply run deflector on a FS

But honestly they should make deflector part of FS base (thats how it was before they decided to rip it off the weapon and put it on a blessing) and then rework deflector blessing to be something cool

[fresh steeple]

built-in Deflector and new blessing when

[leaden thunder]

have it like

charge up your next attack

[mental rock]

I miss deflector when reviving

[fresh steeple]

apparently doesn't do anything anymore

[leaden thunder]

or let it put damage on your push/push attack

[olive ember]

Let me block ranged while reviving

[tropic vigil]

that would be cool

[fresh steeple]

I thought teh same, but it seems that they removed that functionality in late December with that patch that prevented blessing carryover to other weapons, because you "put your weapon away" when ressing

so it's just a normal revive

[mental rock]

yes I know its gone thats why I miss it

[olive ember]

yeah i know

its dumb

I hate it

[shadow quail]

Love the new swords, lllisi is the best rolled weapon I think I have

[olive ember]

I think that patch actually made me quit the game for like a month

I came back when they buffed psyker warp charges

[fresh steeple]

^

[leaden thunder]

I think that was when I cared to level my psyker

[shadow quail]

Psyker day one

[olive ember]

I remember whean Sean actually played psyker

smh

this guy

[fresh steeple]

I didn't explicitly quit because of it. I just wanted to do other stuff and see what they came up with in a new patch. The warp charge change was revolutionary

[olive ember]

only hangs out in ogryn and vet chat nowadays

smh

[sick isle]

Hello sparkheads. I am wanting to try my level 30 psyker again. Whats a general meta build to go with, assuming damnation.

[shadow quail]

Melk was showering me with greatness for weeks and now it is all sadness and autoguns

[olive ember]

I'm assuming new psyker so probably one of the easier to use builds

[fresh steeple]

depends on the ranged weapon you want

[olive ember]

so surge or purge

[sick isle]

Ogryn chat best chat.

[olive ember]

so

purge

[fresh steeple]

many are viable

[olive ember]

I guess a purge staff build

[shadow quail]

Surge/purge or void

[fresh steeple]

yeah, surge/purge

[olive ember]

I mean trauma is prob all around "best" but you have to know how to use it

[fresh steeple]

surge is easily the most braindead one. Surge+Illisi, focus on damage with melee.

[shadow quail]

eh

[olive ember]

and even then some people just don't like it

[leaden thunder]

truama is a thonkin staff

[shadow quail]

I don't think many would argue for taurma being the best

[fresh steeple]

I'm glad I got over my prejudice of it. It's been such an enjoyable past few weeks throwing psychic landmines everywhere and destroying entire packs of unscattered gunners

[olive ember]

in discord Trauma is pretty popular

[shadow quail]

it's good, but best? eh

[olive ember]

can horde clear, can cc elites/specials besides mutants, has enough range to deal with shooters

pretty much good at everything

[leaden thunder]

I mean the best is purge just mechanically

[olive ember]

voidstrike is probably the weakest im pretty sure

well not including surge

voidstrike has hordeclear, but isn't good against elites, worst cc of the staves, can only kill things in a line

warp flurry and transfer peril help it alot but even then

[leaden thunder]

it's ok vs elites tbh

mainly ranged ones tho

I think you can 1 shot gunners with a headshot idk if it needs to be a crit or not tho

[shadow quail]

I wish the other staffs all had unique left clicks

[leaden thunder]

or if it needs other damage boosts

[fresh steeple]

so. Illisi+Surge. 321113 or 311113 (second is going to be better overall most likely). 311133 if you really want Kinetic Flayer for the lulz. Flurry+who the hell cares on Surge, and Slaughterer+Unstable Power/Deflector/Executor (UP best) on Illisi. Primary gameplay behavior is to focus on melee fighting, abuse infinite dodges, and swap to surge any time there's a large pack of specials/elites to lock them down for teammates. Surge is best used when it's not used.

[shadow quail]

Purge feels so much better due to that

[fresh steeple]

you'll have infinite horde clear and be untouchable by most special/elite packs. Just don't use surge on weenies. It's a major travesty to do that.

[olive ember]

alternatively run a purge build, which uses X/1/1/1/1/2

[shadow quail]

purge better imo

and I've always been a surge lover

[fresh steeple]

Surge=one-target super electricity for big single target damage, Void=minor vacuum effect on the mob, Trauma=long-range single target stun

[olive ember]

Surge is good CC, but purge is def the carry build

[leaden thunder]

infinite cleave over an easy aoe by like that

[olive ember]

Its also ease of use but yeah

[sick isle]

Ty sparky

[leaden thunder]

I think void and purge are the easiest "entry" staves coming from other classes

[olive ember]

nah surge is easier than void

[leaden thunder]

void is just like a gun tho

so it's easy to get used to

[olive ember]

not rly

its like a bowling ball

you are trying to line up enemies

not just point and click

[fresh steeple]

^

it's a waste of time if you're only targeting one mob at a time

[shadow quail]

I think void is great

[olive ember]

its good

[fresh steeple]

you gotta constantly position to line things up for penetration

[olive ember]

every staff can be considered meta to an extent tbh

even surge imo (tho everyone disagrees)

[fresh steeple]

shredder=best staff

[olive ember]

but yeah

[leaden thunder]

surge is good in shock trooper

it's ok normally

depends on what the psyker is doing

[shadow quail]

Purge>void/trauma>surge, imo. And I am a surge main.

[fresh steeple]

surge is a great staff. People just use it extremely poorly because even Damnation players don't actually go into the Psykanium to test breakpoints and see that Surge's actual damage is an affront to the God-Emperor

[olive ember]

psyker has 5 main meta builds one for each staff and one for autopistol

[leaden thunder]

as bad of an arugment "don't use it very much and it's good" is

I think that actually applies to the surge

[fresh steeple]

it's just that the other staves are also great, and have higher skill caps

[olive ember]

I mean tbh surge build relies on the illisi

[shadow quail]

I use surge when im lazy and want to play on controller atm

[fresh steeple]

you're never going to wow someone with amazing Surge gameplay. It's use is very obvious and straightforward.

[olive ember]

if the illisi disappeared idk if you could considered surge a meta build in that sense

so yeah

[leaden thunder]

axe probably

[fresh steeple]

yeh, Antax

[olive ember]

Oh yeah it was Antax + surge meta beforehand

[fresh steeple]

Antax+Surge was what I ran for a while

[shadow quail]

illisi destoryed that meta

[olive ember]

I used obscures + surge cuz thats what I used

but yeah

[fresh steeple]

Illisi is just a better Psyker-only version of BM Antax

[olive ember]

Illisi is probably the best weapon in the game rn

[shadow quail]

better than a non cycler PS imo

[fresh steeple]

there's no reason to run Antax when Illisi exists

[shadow quail]

I'd still put the PS with cycler above the illisi

barely

[olive ember]

I mean its about equal

[shadow quail]

yeah

[olive ember]

because PS without charge hits like a wet noodle

the illisi is basically a hsword uncharged

[shadow quail]

agree

[olive ember]

and illisi also has infinite dodges

[shadow quail]

Im so glad melk blessed me with this

[fresh steeple]

80 Warp Resist. Trash.

[olive ember]

I honestly think they should give zealot a weapon on par with the illisi and psword

[shadow quail]

Spam charge

[olive ember]

and then release a harder difficulty

[naive junco]

melk handing out a near perfect stat voidstrike. with trash perk and blessing of course. but nice stats.

[olive ember]

tho people like @ember hornet would hate good weapons

People like Lazorr and Arcotash want to beat their enemies to death with twigs

[fresh steeple]

I'll never stop using Dagger. Move tech too good.

[olive ember]

dagger lol I mean its meta in sedition

[fresh steeple]

damage is still very good if you get Uncanny on it and aim for headshots

[olive ember]

where you just run past everything

[sick isle]

how do the force swords have infinate dodges btw

[fresh steeple]

because they were programmed to

they don't have a fall-off period of ineffectiveness

[sick isle]

ahh, i was assuming there was some tech to it

[fresh steeple]

you'll actually see "Unlimited" beside a Force Sword's dodge count

[olive ember]

no theres no tech

Deimos sideways dodge spamming is literally faster than normal sprinting

its only beaten by knife move tech

[naive junco]

thunderhammer is niche but its fucking op for its purpose.. honestly find it better than vet psword.

[olive ember]

I would like the thunderhammer if its hordeclear wasn't so dog shit

I think that one damnation game ruined it for me

[shadow quail]

I would like the thunderhammer if it wasn't shit

[olive ember]

where none of my team brought a horde clear weapon

and we spent like 5 minutes

just killing poxwalkers

one by one

[naive junco]

i do like the new one which can bypass trash and connect charged hit on elites/specials though. even if its weaker

[shadow quail]

it doesn't bypass trash

it is trash

[olive ember]

Eh thammer is one of the meta options for zealot

[naive junco]

well depending on how much trash it has to pass

but you can always change the angle your facing to line up a hit

[olive ember]

I mean i thought the thammer would have like a psword hordeclear

i didnt expect it to just be

yeah 20% less dmg, but now it can swing through 3 poxwalkers

[shadow quail]

Doesn't hold a candle to PS or illisi

[olive ember]

well yeah

but then again thats the hsword

thammer is specifically to deal with mutants, ogryns, and monstrosities

3 shotting a monstrosity def makes life easier

[shadow quail]

Oh yeah, my reply was based on the "better than PS" commenty

[olive ember]

oh lol

yeah idk bout that one

[naive junco]

i find it better than psword.. cuz illisi is better than psword

so I would rather have a hammer user than avet with a psword on the team is my point

[sick isle]

oh yeah, whats good for pysker curious

[olive ember]

depends on who you ask

some people prefer toughness

some people prefer hp

[primal plume]

Should I get flak or crit on Purge Staff?

[olive ember]

I personally run hp/hp/stam, I think arcotash runs toughness/toughness/stam

[shadow quail]

PS with cycler is still the best of second best melee weapon in the game, hammer isn't in the conversation imo

[olive ember]

maybe run all hp or all toughness

and then go from there?

[sick isle]

no +1 wound meta?

[olive ember]

That can work

[gloomy yarrow]

they buffed soulblaze lets fucking GOOOOOOOOO

[olive ember]

I only just recently swapped out my wound for a stam

honestly haven't actually played a game yet with my new stam curio

but yeah

[gloomy yarrow]

still not infernus buff unless its not documented

[naive junco]

yeah.. id rather have a good hammer user doing his job than a psword horde clearing. especially when a psyker is doing it with illisi or wiping everything in a choke with void or trauma. Not saying psword is trash lol. Just for composition

[shadow wigeon]

Flak

[shadow quail]

The PS is just as good at clearing as the illisi, it's one of the best melee weapons in the game, with cycler. Can't say same about hammer.

[naive junco]

of course theres nothing wrong with a vet bringing the psword regardless.

[cold geode]

only if it has power cycler imo

[naive junco]

which is still the hardest blessing for me to get =/

[safe sun]

Why flak? They just buffed soulflame vs flak and crit goes hard on purgatus

[shadow quail]

But the hammer in general just... meh

[shadow wigeon]

Crit is really not consequential. THey didn't buff it, they just partially un-nerfed it.

[safe sun]

Crit applies double soulflame stacks, it really helps your damage application

[shadow wigeon]

It applies one extra stack, 5% of the time, with the perk. You won' even know you applied it, and won't leverage it.
Between that and flak, flak will kill things faster.

[naive junco]

would you rather have a zealot bring a heavy sword instead? ..

or a knife? lol

[sick isle]

what to reroll on this. block eff? spam dodge more?

[naive junco]

maybe an axe? zz

[safe sun]

+5% of the time, as it applies on top of the base crit rate. This is also why Warp Nexus is popular

[shadow quail]

Prefer they bring a psyker or vet tbh

[naive junco]

agree there.

thats kinda why i said if a zealot was on the team I would much prefer they bring their niche weapon to do their part. No doubt id rather have vets and psyks over zealots if player skill wasnt a factor. Illisi/deimos and psword just too damn good.

maybe if power maul had a much bigger aoe charged overhead.. =/

[shadow quail]

I think vets and psykers are in best place atm

psyker is really strong

[shadow wigeon]

The net effect of theperk is just 5%, it doesn't matter what your other effects are. So compared to +flak, +crit is not that good, in addition to the challenge of not knowing it applied and thus can't leverage it.

[candid lava]

Bone'ads - how valuable is Thunderous 4 and on what, you reckon?

[shadow wigeon]

Sir, this is a Sanctioned Wendy's

[thorny edge]

this is probably fine.

[candid lava]

oops, wrong chat...

[long wharf]

stupid Hadron

[ember hornet]

says the surge user

[formal raven]

Can anyone explain this blessing lol

[ember hornet]

crit chance stacks on higher peril

[ornate hamlet]

he speaks the tongue

[primal plume]

does this still work or is it bugged

[twilit flicker]

just passed up t4 transfer peril for voidstrike for t4 raking fire for my laspistol, emperor bless

[olive ember]

they should still work its just htat tool tips bugged out

[olive ember]

tooltip is currently broke but basically it adds +x% crit chance (depending on blessing tier) at certain peril thresholds

For example, a tier 4 Warp Nexus will give +5/10/15/20% crit chance at 20/40/60/80% peril

[olive ember]

I would say that my staff can't be nerfed but

Infernus Recon Las exists

[steel flame]

Oh baby can't wait to get back from my robotics world championship to abuse wrack and ruin and shredder some more

Won't get back till next Tuesday. At least I'll be occupied with the competition 😛

[ember sentinel]

tell me how that works

im curious

[steel flame]

What part?

Hmmmmmmmmm I can see why your taking warp kills Regen. Though it might be less reliable on trauma than void. Soulblaze kills dont count as far as I know

[ember sentinel]

mostly the soulblaze stuff is what im curious about

since your running every feat available for it

[steel flame]

Lots of soulblaze blaze spread with kb and warp fire

And wrack

[ember sentinel]

yeah im just wondering if the damage will keep up

with what it could be with Warp unleashed and the usual

well keep up well enough to be worth trying out

probably wont outdo warp unleashed

[worn bolt]

whats the dump stat on a trauma staff again?

[steel flame]

Quell

[ember sentinel]

yeah quell

[worn bolt]

awesome

[ember sentinel]

id consider everything else important

[steel flame]

Some people dump resist for some reason beyond my comprehension

[ember sentinel]

warp resist isnt necessary but trauma builds so fast that low warp resist hurts

[steel flame]

They are Beyond saving

[ember sentinel]

id want decent resist at least

like 60

yeah thats one hell of a staff

[worn bolt]

Ive got this one too but the warp resist was meh

[ember sentinel]

hopefully it doesnt get destroyed on perks

yeah id swap them

unless that one has really good perks and a good blessing

that you could build off

[steel flame]

Wow wish I had that kind of luck

[worn bolt]

the purple? aw yeah I transfer peril on weakpoint hit so FANTASTIC blessing (its bricked)

[ember sentinel]

yeah rip

[steel flame]

Oooof

[ember sentinel]

why are staffs allowed to get blessings that literally dont do anything

[worn bolt]

I was gonna hope for a better t4 blessing clutch then reblessing it into warp flurry or something

[steel flame]

I mean you MIGHT get a good one on legendary

[ember sentinel]

im not even the biggest RNG hater but that stuff annoys me

[worn bolt]

yeah, just need mats

[ember sentinel]

yeah might be worth the upgrade

just in case

[steel flame]

I don't mind RNG. I hate layered RNG

[worn bolt]

You've gotta be kidding

[ember sentinel]

LOL

thats so ass

[steel flame]

I don't mind rolling a dice. But having to roll multiple times and any bad roll means ive wasted everything I put into it? Fuck that

[ember sentinel]

well hopefully you get a good blessing one of 2

so you can replace quell

[worn bolt]

Ive been rolling for weeks now

this is what im with now which isnt bad but could be much much better

[steel flame]

Very usable

Better than what I run with

[ember sentinel]

yeah im using a similar trauma staff

[worn bolt]

the low charge rate on it is what irks me

[steel flame]

I can't be bothered to try rolling again rn

[ember sentinel]

im still waiting to get a t4 blessing i actually want 😭

[sick isle]

whats the dumpstat on illisi

[ember sentinel]

at least ive got lots of 3s

mobility

[worn bolt]

is their a t4 warp flurry /t4 rending shockwave?

[ember sentinel]

i think so

?

[worn bolt]

I got a god roll with mine but I run like a paraplegic turtle with it

base stats are ok but the blessings are the hit

[ember sentinel]

first target probably isnt a huge deal either

oh im dumb

its warp resist

lol

you want low warp resist

[sick isle]

as a newish psyker, this seems decent

[ember sentinel]

yeah thats fine

[sick isle]

just gotta find slaughter. and then + flak?

[worn bolt]

honestly its not bad at all, you will move slow tho. the warp resist you wont notice

[ember sentinel]

flak/unarmored

[worn bolt]

gl with unstable power 4 if you want to go for that with slaughterer. snowballs like crazy but is pretty hard to find

[ember sentinel]

yeah youll run slow but i dont notice it in combat cause i can slide and dodge all over the plce

yeah you want flak/unarmored and unstable power/slaughterer

[worn bolt]

you can light attack oneshot most melee units at max BB stacks high peril and slaughterer stacked

[ember sentinel]

yeah if you get everything going you can just circle dodge around a horde

and light attack

and it melts everythin g

other wise i just go with heavy->light cause there both very horizontal slices

[sick isle]

when to use the special? on mutants and cara?

[ember sentinel]

usually i use it on mutants up close and ragers

[worn bolt]

you can alt to power up your wep then light attack repeat to keep perill high for unstable if you want to. amazing for hordes and the occasional mutie

[ember sentinel]

maybe if im approaching a massive horde or something as the first cut

also good for quietude, cause you can spam the charge and not swing then just quell in cover

and get toughness back

[restive slate]

Deimos uncanny strike is fun as heck

[worn bolt]

fr quietude makes me SO tanky

especially with kinetic shield when I am at high peril

[ember sentinel]

its such a godsend

[restive slate]

I'm considering removing the force shield blessing on force swords in exchange for more damage

[digital loom]

but i'm going to keep using my crit blaze trauma

instead of my usual rending one

[worn bolt]

deflector? its mid imo. can easzily work without it

[ember sentinel]

deflector is nice but ideally you run damage and learn to not get shot down

[restive slate]

Yea that

[digital loom]

but i will keep actively bursting

[restive slate]

I find myself sliding into cover as a better survival tool

[ember sentinel]

yeah sliding and cover

sliding and firing something off if it supresses

ie purge

[digital loom]

i use deflector a lot

[worn bolt]

honestly sliding in general, if you time it right they almsot always miss, if they dont the damage is reduced

[digital loom]

basically the best way to put it is

do you want a shield ogryn that actually works?

use deflector and stack block efficiency

[restive slate]

I thought stamina?

[digital loom]

stam curio if not using kinetic feat

[ember sentinel]

ill try that soulblaze build

[digital loom]

i'm using it with

[ember sentinel]

ive been wanting to try one anyway

[worn bolt]

tfw when psyker is a better shield ogryn

[digital loom]

yeah it really is a better shield ogryn

[worn bolt]

the base stats on that are pretty meh

oh you are using a blazing build I See you

[ember sentinel]

whats your reasoning for running the psykinetic aura

[restive slate]

Just how often does it trigger Soulblaze?

[digital loom]

once you get it going, it's nice

[ember sentinel]

so is it meant to just encourage bursting

cause thats just cooldown on abilities right>

[digital loom]

yea

it also helps teammates a little bit

as far as i remember

[ember sentinel]

yeah p sure thats right

[digital loom]

i'm basically trading the big bb damage for some collateral damage

[ember sentinel]

and it actually ran ok in damnnation?

i have not heard great things overall about SB stuff

[digital loom]

the one i run without wrack and ruin is very strong

it has a few serious downsides, though

but two of them, dogs and mutants, have become trivial with latest patch

[ember sentinel]

do you just replace wrack with warp unleashed

and then everything else is the same

[vagrant frigate]

are the new penances not in yet?

[ember sentinel]

no

they gave us a date for it but i forget the date

[vagrant gust]

first week of may I believe

[ionic frost]

Soon ™️

[olive ember]

What about major update

When that out?

[ember sentinel]

end of this month

iirc

[digital loom]

it seems like

with the dog and mutant changes

i only wipe if i try to save my teammates

i can finally play in my preferred method

as a bus driver

[fresh reef]

man I fucking love shock gauntlet bombers

[olive ember]

Alright

Time to see how hadron fucks this one up

[cyan notch]

wow

rare footage of derpy with a good roll

[idle bay]

Now get us a photos of Spider-Man this staff not bricked by Hadron 🙂

[olive ember]

sigh

can't even do a damnation game without

playing with some smoothed brained brauto vet who just shot every poxburster

in a shock gauntlet to

I think a good 80% of poxbursters successfully blew up on someone

the psyker was... well he blew himself up constantly at the worst fucking moments

and the zealot was kinda just

average

also yeah

fucking bricked

actually yeah

the psyker managed to go down in the worst possible moments

like

a bunch of special spawned while we are fighting assassination mission? Wheres our surge staff? oh hes blowing himself up

granted it may be due to the fact that everyone but me was perpetually at half health

[sinful charm]

What's stat/blessing should I look for in the 3 accessory slot?

[cyan notch]

toughness/health/toughness regen/sniper resist

[olive ember]

gunner resist is also decent

[primal plume]

I call this the "i dont know what the fuck im doing" setup on surge staff

[ornate hamlet]

[heady swan]

So uh, what happened?

[cyan notch]

[near wyvern]

No really since it doesn't affect shotgunners

Played the yesterday with the buffed Wrack and Ruin, like stated, it's purely dependant on team comp.

When I had 2 Zealots and an Ogryn in the team, yes it racks up damage, but when I had 2 veterans and an other Psyker in the team, I didn't get my BB off 60% of the time so naturally the damage dropped very low.

Furthermore, it's a pain in the ass to get it to land at times on the elite/special instead of trash. Wrack and Ruin will forever be garbage as long as it's not changed to on any hit.

Shock Trooper Gauntlet is definitely the best modifier for it, but even with that it's hard to get things off if you have 1 lasgun and 1 bolter vet in the team.

And the TTK for flamers even with 6 warp stacks and cerebral lacerations is pain, you still have to finish them off with gun or melee or they will light up your team unless you see them coming miles away

Where as with Warp Unleashed you BB once and are done with them

[olive ember]

no but it does affect reapers and gunners so eh

better than some of the other trash you can get

[olive ember]

oh right, flamer one shot requires WU

I legit forgot that was part of the req

[cyan notch]

ragers and bursters too

gotta let em burn out

which can be a little weird

[near wyvern]

Bursters die in a few ticks so it's not that big difference but for everything else you still have to deal with them if they are not miles away

And you don't get a guaranteed warp charge for the kill

[cyan notch]

idk bursters are kinda of a must 1 shot for me

[olive ember]

bursters are but pox hounds aren't

https://tenor.com/view/confused-wth-wtf-really-meme-gif-17151805

tho im happy with the hound changes

mutants are a bit...

well I had to double take the first time he walked through

[cyan notch]

dogs dont do 100 damage + corruption to your entire team

[olive ember]

Just use push attack smh

oh yeah was the anti stagger resist thing implemented this patch

because I swear thats a fucking lie

[cyan notch]

yes

kinda wonky with flamethrowers still

[olive ember]

Meh I'll test around with bursters tmrw I guess

[forest coral]

When the bursters spawn and instantly leap from door that is next to whole team

[atomic forum]

not taking quietitude on surge staff is kinda crazy to me imo

[primal plume]

Wrack and Ruin still feels like a shitty talent lol

its cool in concept

but theres no reason to pick it over the other 2

[atomic forum]

yeah idk random soulblaze on its own kind of just does like, literally nothing. i guess ONLY for getting warp charges with psykinetic blaze

i remember being gaslit into thinking soulblaze had some hidden debuff to enemies during the beta, which would have been cool, but alas it is just blue fire

[primal plume]

The hidden debuff was hitting the demonhost and agroing it

[stable silo]

pretty sure i seen a wildfire jump to a demon host from a shooter that was running

[primal plume]

Wrack and Ruin should just have an explosion go off

would at least be cooler than 4 stacks of fire

[stable silo]

explosion similar to barrel then apply soulblaze

[primal plume]

that would be cool

[atomic forum]

i think i need to go back to running ascendant blaze for a bit and see how it feels. i would really like to make ascendant blaze be good at 4 stacks so i can take kinetic flayer, but i'm not sure if 4 stacks is enough even if i do some slaughter shenanigans, have yet to test. flak armor change kinda nice tho, even if it's still down from previously

[summer prairie]

4 stacks kills flak shooters with some buffs

[atomic forum]

Oh wait yeah I recall it working even with just maxed unstable power so a slaughter kill or two is surely enough

[summer prairie]

just +flak and stacks is enough even without WU

[stable silo]

ascendant blaze is good into gunker

cause the burn dmg increases with pining fire/blaze away

[atomic forum]

yeah ascendant blaze is sick with shredder

[stable silo]

so u ult into a horde with some mixes elites pull out the shredder and fire away your fire kills everything and u instnatly get 4 procs bak

[atomic forum]

probably the most value with it

i've also started to just light enemies on fire with my purgatus staff and then just dodge past them with deflector up and letting slaughter stack up while i'm crab scuttling away lol. weapon blessings applying to fire is pretty goofy

kinda hope those interactions dont go away entirely

[untold meteor]

can't wait for hadron to troll me

[olive ember]

I remember everyone was super hard coping that the fire didn't actually damage enemies, it staggered them

so they were like "yeah its aoe CC"

[atomic forum]

i mean they aren't wrong but

yeah definitely not all it does lol

it's partially me being rusty with surge staff but in the few games i played with it recently after having only used purgatus for a while... aside from the range, and shutting off specials entirely, purgatus feels like way more CC to me for shutting down riflemen and staggering large groups

[near wyvern]

That's what they said they did but yesterday I had a burster completely ignore my push after it leaped, exploding to my face. So definitely the 'fix' is not working all the time.

[summer prairie]

I think if there is a lot of stagger right before it jumps it can still ignore it but other than that it seems to work reliably in the grinder

[atomic forum]

fix only works if you're host

[summer prairie]

it usually even gets staggered if you do purg rmb

[olive ember]

Imagine

the fix is ping based

[atomic forum]

fps based

[olive ember]

oh god

must be playing 30 frames

makes dodging bullets easier

[atomic forum]

wouldn't it be funny if a game had completely game breaking, content ruining bugs related to your framerate

haha

actually snipers kinda feel like that sometimes lmao

i'll have taken health damage before the sniper even thought about shooting me on my screen it feels like

[olive ember]

I know I've played this game too long when it becomes ingrained in me to just dodge whenever I hear the sniper noise

[atomic forum]

i do too, and yet there have been like 4 times in recent memory where I saw my health go low before I even heard the shot, or didn't hear the shot at all

[olive ember]

I haven't had that happen yet

I fear the day that does

I will say that when I play zealot with TWBS I legit don't realize I'm taking dmg half the time

Cuz normally you get staggered n shit

[atomic forum]

part skill issue part lag i think. but i don't recall it ever being something i failed to dodge until recently. friend clipped him being shot by a sniper with no audio or visual too

[olive ember]

herm

idk

Tbf most of the time I'm spam pinging

so if I'm looking at a sniper he will be highlighted

[atomic forum]

which was funny because i saw and heard the shot he got hit by

[olive ember]

so the only time I rly get shot is if i'm not looking at it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

might be some ping related issue

idk

the hounds in this game have shown us that they didn't test for ping or wte at all

snipers and mutants too

[atomic forum]

just apply the hound fix to snipers

[olive ember]

I just don't know if it can break enough to not be heard

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11mphyf/snipers_and_hounds_0_ping_vs_70_ping/

[atomic forum]

yeah not seeing or hearing the shot was new to me

wow, footage of someone just, dodging a dog looks insane to me

[olive ember]

I just realized this guy was chinese lol

first time watching the video with audio

or paying attention to the text

huh

[atomic forum]

oh yeah the clip of them being shot is what it feels like for me a lot of the time

lmao the dog clip is so sad, grenade at the feet but it's blocked by the pillar

i've just started rolling sniper resist on everything anyway

[near wyvern]

Yesterday I had a dog go past me at the bottom of the stair case, jump over me with a 180 and do the leap from above while in air

[hallow wedge]

yay more of these things

[atomic forum]

i love
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fr though that extra crit is great on purgatus

[hallow wedge]

Oh ya, so good

Ive been running that and the reduced charge time on chained secondaries

Very nice

[atomic forum]

i've started running crit chance as a perk too, since i feel like in most scenarios, even just 1 more stack of burn ever couple on enemies is a lot more damage, and a lot less restricted

yeah warp flurry warp nexus is the play on purgatus for sure

[hallow wedge]

Spam low charged casts, then spam full ones

Ya I use crit perk as well

[atomic forum]

i end up maxing warp flurry even without short casts. combat meditation procs + ult + hordes

the secondary attack extending for so long is really beneficial for getting combat meditation to work in your favor. you can go sooooo long without ever quelling

shout not interrupting brain burst or warp flurry is nice too

[shadow wigeon]

If you're feeling like a madlad, I have swapped Nexus for Focused Channelling. It's very fun. Much more aggressive style.

[atomic forum]

when i want to be aggressive I just use the staff to pepper enemies with a few stacks and then swap to slaughterer deimos to pump the burn

[summer prairie]

it's kind of funny how you can eat a crusher overhead and keep charging

[atomic forum]

if i REALLY want to get my cast off i usually have my ult to use to get some space

[true shadow]

laspistol psyker is hilarious fun

[atomic forum]

multiple crushers is the only thing I'm really wondering how to deal with if i swap to using psykinetic blaze again. kinetic barrage makes it pretty easy to juggle brainbursting even a few crushers, but without that it gets a little scary. maybe i go joker mode and run uncanny strike on deimos lol

i should probably use that spawner mod and see how well the purge staff + uncanny strike works for clearing multiple crushers

[true shadow]

i run an uncanny ilisi for everything-control

https://gyazo.com/24b6ad541c33ee8799e8efa62c1ac995
its pretty funny

[tame yarrow]

best feats for psyker?

[true shadow]

highly recommend uncanny strike at all times

[true shadow]

warp unleashed is a must

otherwise go wild

everything works

[shadow wigeon]

how much time you got

[true shadow]

first time i can say that in the year 2023

[tame yarrow]

HAHAHAHA just started a new psyker havent played one before

[shadow wigeon]

While levelling you can almost do what you want

[true shadow]

please feel free to try out and experiment with shit if you just started it

go wild

[atomic forum]

psyker is very versatile so you can pretty much play into whatever playstyle you want, so your talents will depend on that

[tame yarrow]

awesome

[atomic forum]

warp unleashed i can def recommend though. it's good, and more importantly imo, it feels noticeable

[shadow wigeon]

@tame yarrow T1: Quietitde, T2: Warp Unleashed, T4: Kinetic Deflector are some big milestones, but all the others work well.

[atomic forum]

i'm a big quietitude enjoyer too

[true shadow]

everyone loves quietitude

i also love warp absorption

[tame yarrow]

thats the one I picked for the first feat. Only level 6 right now.

[true shadow]

pair with ilisi for instant horde toughness

[atomic forum]

i think kinetic deflector is cool but pretty much only with deflector on a sword imo

[true shadow]

kinetic deflector is extremely useful

for revives

[atomic forum]

oh right it works for that too

[true shadow]

yeah

[atomic forum]

yeah i use it when i use deimos since i can't Stroke for peril

[true shadow]

and generally not dying in melee without stacking stamina curios for weapons with shitty stamina pools

if you run any of them

[shadow wigeon]

@tame yarrow There is a core build for each staff, but then variants you can make to suit your play style. There isn't a "best" set of feats

[true shadow]

oh and if you're running quietitude you might as well run it for free peril generation

[shadow wigeon]

You'll learn what staff(s) you like while you level

[atomic forum]

quietitude also makes your shout a mini zealout ability basically

[true shadow]

https://gyazo.com/671cc3a196be00a435f04ab138b3bdba
this is my preferred feat setup

[tame yarrow]

Thank yall so much. I'll have to keep this all in mind as I level.

[atomic forum]

deflector up to ranged enemies, knock them over and regain toughness back, and then just start ccing with staff. has proved to be very nice for not being forever stuck in the back with ranged enemies

[forest coral]

slide toward them menacingly

[atomic forum]

i can't take EVERYTHING from zealots. the cracked out sliding is their thing

[forest coral]

that and elite/ boss busting on hammer

and kant shotty

[atomic forum]

kanty my beloved

[forest coral]

the beloved

[atomic forum]

but uh, the boss baking can still easily be done

i don't know what deimos does

but deimos force attack eviscerates bosses for seemingly no reason. even to health

i have multiple times just skipped damage phases with it and I don't quite get it

[forest coral]

deimos can 1v1 monsties very easily and fully control aggro in assassination

[atomic forum]

i thought it was starting the force attack wit the shield up, and the bonus damage transferring to health, but i've done it even when attacking with the shield fully down and the health bar would just immediately jump

[forest coral]

i still find its faster to light lmb the shield down and then spam headshot thrusts or charged special

[atomic forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/579428576453984257/1095184734390341712/deimos.mp4

[forest coral]

is this on heresy

[atomic forum]

damnation

[forest coral]

a normal overhead special does that much ?

[olive ember]

I think he got lucky and his teammate broke the shield right before the proc goes off tbh

And yeah the special does that much if you hit his head with the special