I have often memed that the game finally came out of beta 3 months after release
#psyker-class
shrewd nest
Though it's been more than 3 now and I'm for sure lookng forward to the next big update with some hopium
north cradle
More cosmetics yey
ionic needle
I kinda like when games launch like this though, it's fun watching it steadily get better over time
shrewd nest
tHe cosmetics are a super good look for what's coming
ruby plover
i still think its hilarious how much people lost their minds over darktide launch state
like yes okay there were plenty of very real concerns and complaints
but idk i went in knowing how fatshark works
and not a single thing caught me off guard
shrewd nest
Was deffinitely lame going from prerelease beta to base game to...nothing but a cash shop
north cradle
I only played Vermintide 2 beforehand, so I thought Fatshark would have made improvements learnt from the previous game
ionic needle
Yeah I only played VT2 before as well, DT was kind of a let down at the start. I even stopped playing for a few months and came back and now when they fixed a lot of the stupidest stuff it's cool.
shrewd nest
Yeah, I only did a little v2, hoped they learned, and also left a few months jsut after release
north cradle
I should put Slaughterer on this thing
shrewd nest
Hoping zealot gets some kinda cool shield and whatever the fuck, I want that
And let fuckin hammer cleave more than 3 enemies at a time
north cradle
Or make it like the hammer in Doom Eternal as an AoE
Hell, why not make it work like the Crusher but in a cone instead of a sphere?
shrewd nest
I meant the heavies, not the special, for the special I jsut wish light headhunting was valid, but no, full charged horrizontals only, let it work like the ironhelm honestly, andd just rework that thing
river sand
hmmm i was testing the voidstrike with nexus/surge a bit these days. turns out flurry/transfer peril doesnt seem to be noticeably stronger. in fact i tracked a few game and the ratio of dmg done to overall enemies killed and it was slightly higher than with transfer peril / flurry
rapid forge
The Emperor Giveth
magic burrow
Satan's toothpick
shadow onyx
vital compass
yo guys I have no blessings stored for this, would you take it to orange and then shop camp for slaughterer for it? Also which perks would you swap and to what?
bold flint
low first target 😔
vital compass
i thought finese and dmg was the only thing that mattered on mk 4s
bold flint
idunno, thats probably the case
vital compass
Can you scrap deimos blessings for illisi?
bold flint
yea, same class of weapon
vital compass
If so then maybe i should just scrap this coz im looking for deflector on that
but i did think it had potential
river sand
on deimos the only real dumpstat is warp res
untold meteor
with 6 warp charges, warp unleashed, and some good perks/blessings
river sand
damage, finesse, first target allls important and mobility is nice to have
untold meteor
you don't even need to weapon special the deimos
it just ramps up so hard on single target
the one I posted earlier can 3 shot a crusher with heavies
faster than it takes to weapon special activate
twice
river sand
yeah therefore warp res is dumpstat
untold meteor
river sand
give it unstable power and + maniac and you can easily onehit the charging mutie
cyan notch
with warp unleashed u can
river sand
only at high peril
river sand
with that one i need 6 charges and 20 peril for oneshit. at 0 peril its 3998 dmg
cyan notch
maybe even less
why do u need 20 peril if ur at 3998 at 0 peril
like 2 peril will work
cyan notch
ur thinking of unstable power
river sand
with perfect roll on dmg/firsttarget/finesse it might be possible at 0%
cyan notch
warp unleashed scales with every amount of peril u gain
austere estuary
As blooddrunk says, warp unleashed is a linear scale
river sand
hmm let me test that
austere estuary
You don’t need to test it, the formula used in the game was already data mined
glad glade
hey high IQ gang, I got a Illisi FS with B lazing Spirit 4 and Shred, with wildfire it spreads pretty well - but damn, the damage is SO bad on damnation. Am I doing something wrong or is Soulblaze in a bad spot right now?
forest coral
The Soublaze from illisi kinda bad
It’s still decent on ur regular purg/ ab builds but on the sword itself it’s fairly wasted
Without slaughterer on a force sword you are losing out on a lot of extra damage and stagger
what you dot could just be hit a second time/ one tapped instead of relying on slow burn
Unfortunately it’s not like vermintide firesword where the cleave basically tagging everything in the swing
glad glade
Thanks, what I expected. Have to craft another one with slaughterer, feels bad man
forest coral
It be like that
leaden thunder
also if you want to do funny haha fire sword you kinda need bloodthirsty to make it really work
forest coral
Yeah unlike firesword from vermintide also, it’s not like bad melee damage for great dot guaranteed dot and stagger
It’s high melee damage for really low dot and stagger that is affected by power
wet belfry
ionic needle
Any gun psyker out there who knows what L5 talent is the best for toughness regen? Right now I'm running Essence Harvest, but since I decided to drop communion for Aura and Blaze for Barrage I'm sometimes having a hard time getting toughness back in between Kinetic Flayer procs. Using PW to proc Barrage and popping some heads works but in the middle of a mixed horde that's not always viable
cyan notch
its pretty scuffed when ur using guns but your only other option is running a fs (llisi preferably) with quietitude to quickly spam special to gain peril and quell for toughness there
faint vault
Pair the gun with an Illisi and use quietude.
ionic needle
I'm already using illisi but didn't really think of that, haha
That way I can also use kinetic deflection to block my peril up and then gain toughness back when it starts decreasing
Really wish we had some better options for toughness regen, the shredder blessing that regens toughness looks nice on paper but I heard it's shit
faint vault
It works well, actually.
ionic needle
Really?
faint vault
The toughness regen on laspistol is also quite good.
ionic needle
Blaze away doesn't really feel like it's necessary because of how rare it is to actually unload an entire mag on something
ornate hamlet
Honestly, communion is too good for essence harvest to pass up, and kinetic flayer robs you of a constant 8% damage on everything
faint vault
Yeah, pinning and toughness regen is a nice combo.
I preferer the burst from flayer, but that's just a personal preference.
ionic needle
Yeah if I'm switching to communion I'm obviously switching to 6 stacks too, but I kind of like the feel of this setup atm. It's working really well, I clear HI T6 pretty consistently, but sometimes I just run out of toughness and get my cheeks clapped by some random zombie and feel like an idiot
cyan notch
damn u got the T6 patch
ionic needle
What's that?
Oh nvm T5 hahaha
T6 should be a thing though, damnation barely feels worth it without HI
cyan notch
its worth it for mats
ionic needle
True, true. Playing mostly for the fun rather than the mats though, even if those two aren't mutually exclusive
cyan notch
yeah its kinda lame especially if there are maps/modifiers u dont like
then i just dont play
ionic needle
Yeah LI is such a slog, I'm also not a fan of the sniper modifier
But that's mostly because I'm shit at dealing with snipers
upper sage
Just hit 30 last night, anybody got a tl;dr on builds for Psyker? Currently using Purgatus and Deimos.
Eh blessings on them I think, away from comp so I can't check.
grand arrow
i hate staves and force weapons so much ive been levelling with an mg12 and chainsword
cursive crest
i hate staves and force weapons so much ive been levelling with an mg12 and chai...
Wondering why you even play psyker then 🤣
grand arrow
french cop lady
cyan notch
from mission impossible 6
sick light
That's a very specific kink, but I won't judge
ornate hamlet
blah blah blah moebian iron blah blah blah best workers blah blah blah craftsmanship blah blah blah beat of the street blah blah blah Superb.
vestal raven
It was almost perfect
thrust is kinda fire tho
fallow falcon
Its not bad, I just would've preferred headtaker to deal with hordes better
vestal raven
true
fallow falcon
Maybe run it with a trauma staff and use it to deal with elites
near wyvern
Headtaker more like metamaker :3
karmic copper
@upper sage in general, illi force sword(fs) is best horde melee, and deimos(fs) is best single target(but has fantastic cleave on its heaviea, just less horizontal.)
Illi can spam the special so you can reliably gain peril to quel for your level 5 talent, or using the special to KILL, for the other lvl 5 talent.
Surge staff is considered the weakest because of its max targets being like 5, and its low damage, but if paired with illis horde clear, you can still be frontline and control, but DO NOT get trapped into thinking durge spam into horde is ever good. You may as well just run up and charge your special for peril gain. I use flurry and uninterupt on mine just because the damage isnt the best and i want my shit to hit if im getting fucked. The blessings arent so important and neither is the staff itself ive read. It stuns. It stuns consistantly, but it doesnt kill consistantly. It works well with the bottom lvl 25 talent because it specifies"on hit" and doesnt register kills, or so ive read.
Voidstrike, trauma and purg can use whichever melee, but all 3 cant smack carapace very well so a lot like to use deimos with them... but we have oir brain burst for carapace? So up to you.
Trauma BiS is warp flurry and full charge spam and probably the only case where you would NOT use the top row lvl 10 talent, and instead inner tranq to allow horde spam more. With Warp Flurry, you must continually chain heavy or it will break your built up stacks. Be it being hit, reaching peril overload, or blocking, letting go of right xkick.. you can see in psykanarium. The buff goes away. Second blessing is generally uninterupt or rending shockwave for your team* and your melee, as it doesnt effect traumas charge damage.
Crits are pretty shit for all staves and base crit chance is lowlow, but surge has extra stat for higher crit, and purg crits actually add 2 soulfire stacks instead of 1, making crit its best stat. So purg warp nexus blessing and 5% crit perk are BiS by far. Other blessing is up to your pref.
Void strike is 100% cut and dry weakspot quel peril, and flurry. 100%. You can quel cancel all projectile staff shots, but its best used for fast spam charges void. You can spam quick charges like 2 or 3 times a sec if you can time it right. BUT, again, this will cancel your flurry stacks. If horde is inc, its best to just fire off 4 lowest charged into the sky to ready up for horde, and always aim for headshots(unless youre well practiced and can hover in the upper 50% for peril damage stacking from lvl 10 top talent)
Yes i copy pasted. On phone and wrote it out didnt notice the fucking character limit fml
Void, purg, and trauma can all reliably use all 3 lvl 5 feats, but quietide wins out in most cases, especially with illis FS instant peril gain, also making warp resistance on all 3 force swords 100% your dump stat. The lower it is, the more instant peril you can gain, and in melee while dodge dancing.
karmic copper
On ALL melee that can get it(including all 3 force swords), slaughterer is BiS for horde clear or damage in general. Force swords can get a unique blessing Deflector, that works really well with their general kit, but not everyone uses it. There is another blessing for damage that is based off peril(cant think of the name) and is 2,3,4 and 5%power PER 20%PERIL. It doesnt specify that. So its actually 25% power increase when youre over 80%peril. Some aim for this peril vlessing along with slaughterer as best in slot. Quel speed is generally dump stat for all staves as quel is fast in most cases right now but like all things, too dump is bad. You can always quel woth your pop or force sword also. Damage is important for all but the purg staff because its primary samage source is the DoT stacking etc, s burn damage and cloud are its most important.
olive ember
🤔 looks right for the most part
karmic copper
Im stretching at the gym lol
karmic copper
Sorry i forgot to add
olive ember
I won’t believe anything anyone tells me
karmic copper
(I use surge almost entirely when i use illi)
I forgot to make special mention of you slurp sry. On phone. Just trying to ramble out info. I type so bad on my phone. Typo tyoo typo typo
ember hornet
don't validate slurp, he uses obscurus with surge
olive ember
I mean
I've swapped to the illisi now because my team can't carry their own weight
look at what shitty pubs made me do
karmic copper
Some live by trauma, some live by void, @olive ember lives by surge, and some live by purg. For real. All can work. 95% now use illis or deimos though. Obscur FS just doesnt do either as well as the other 2, but its fine to use. Slaughterer rules apply again.
ember hornet
let me fix that for you "my team can't carry me"
olive ember
.>
I'll believe the team is carrying me when it doesn't fall a part the moment I'm not stunlocking specials
ember hornet
likely story
olive ember
it isn't which is a feelsbad lmao
I try to melee a mutant and I turn around and the team is getting screwed by a poxhound and another mutant
karmic copper
Any melee that can get Brutal Momentum also is its BiS, antax5 combat axe being the old old faithful before the 2 new FS came out was OP. Use what you can for now though. Buy what brunts can give you and pretty much ANY slaughterer can sustain your needs until you can get any good staff to support your melee
ember hornet
when are they gonna delete BM
I can't wait
cause it's idiotic a weapon with a cleave of 1 can get infinite cleave
olive ember
lmao
what is lazorr's list of weapons to nerf again
autopistol
antax
zealot armor strip in general
wat else
bolters?
ember hornet
BM, autopistol, bull butcher, zealot ranged F to trade for better melee F, Illisi, good bit of vets kit, hsword, pinning fire, psword with cycler
but
caveat
they need to adjust weapon bases
instead of having +100% power blessings
olive ember
🤔
see that psykers
lazorr wants to ruin our fun with the illisi
smh
he wants to get the game review bombed again
ember hornet
wow crazy that I don't think a weapon should be able to one shot almost everything while also being able to kill 20 poxwalkers in a swing
I've lost my marbles
north solstice
youre right it should kill 21 poxwalkers
olive ember
I mean i don't rly care either way
I have my obscures in my back pocket if they fucking screw over the illisi
then again knowing fatshark they would do something dumb like "infinite dodges removed"
and then I'll just be sad
olive ember
I mean they need to buff the other options not nerf warp unleashed imo
ember hornet
well, it does make everything else in that tier redundant
ember hornet
yeah, need other compelling feats
olive ember
they've been buffing it since launch
and its still trash lmao
especially with the flak dmg nerf
rocky cedar
Honestly with how overbuffed quelling was inner tranq will probably never be particularly relevant again
rocky cedar
Like they could double its values and it still probably wouldn't get picked over warp unleashed
olive ember
but even then I just run warp unleashed and learn to quell earlier than what I'm used to
rocky cedar
Because peril management is baby mode now
elfin flower
I've got a question for the long time psykers do you guys still have PTSD from the broken VFX surge staff from month 2 darktide
spring barn
Tbh nah. It was hecktic sure, but I honestly had/have a worse time with the purgatus. Fucking eyeball searing after a bit lmao
olive ember
Cuz in my pre queue we would run double surge staff and my third friend would be like wtf I can’t see
But it was def a for the memes thing
ember hornet
it was a great way to balance the undeniable strength of the surge staff
rocky cedar
Surge still seems eh to me
ember hornet
it's terrible lol
rocky cedar
Stun lock 6 enemies?
north solstice
i want my surge baby to get buffed
spring barn
Don’t need to nerf psyker again when we can nerf the actual players lmao
rocky cedar
I'd rather just kill them with anything else TBH
olive ember
I mean give it 15 character target cap
Ez
and dreg damage
And poxhound dmg
But yeah
ember hornet
I could see surge if you are just maining illisi and killing things cause illisi can function as your only weapon
spring barn
Stun yeah, dog water damage on anything but flak. Not a big enough spread for the stun to be super super valuable
ember hornet
but otherwise eh
spring barn
Fun tho
olive ember
;-;
rocky cedar
Staff balance would be easier and cooler if they had unique primary attacks TBH
spring barn
Unlimited power and all that
olive ember
I mean i like CC staff, making it just kill things like any other staff would kinda make it a worse any other staff tbh
spring barn
Even with the unintended purgatus nerf, shit still out performs it. But I run voidstrike mostly either way
ember hornet
so is the surge useful if it's me and a psyker split from the team? yeah pretty useful
olive ember
they just need the stupid CC staff to CC more
spring barn
^
olive ember
Depends I guess
spring barn
How is the illisi? I fell in love with the crit sword when it came out and barely touched the psyker powersword
olive ember
when you get 3 flamers 2 mutants and a trapper
being able to CC even half of em makes life alot easier
spring barn
Pretty noice on high intensity damnation with all the disabler spam
olive ember
but yeah surge needs buffs but no clue how
ik blooddrunk thinks 15x target cap is op but like
ember hornet
How is the illisi? I fell in love with the crit sword when it came out and barel...
illisi is one of the most broken weapons in the game, if not the most
olive ember
if you think about how much CC something like the purge applies
devout belfry
I'm over here with my smg.
spring barn
illisi is one of the most broken weapons in the game, if not the most
Tf else does it do??
ember hornet
depending on blessings and perks
olive ember
Its a psword, except the base dmg isn't bad so you can use it like an hsword
and its got infinite dodges
olive ember
and its on psyker which has better stam regen etc. etc.
ember hornet
all the ragers
spring barn
What the fuck
devout belfry
And the push has infinite cleave
olive ember
the psword was the most broken but with the recent nerfs
the illisi is probably the strongest weapon now
so yeah I'm expecting it to get nerfed tbh even tho i think its p fun
spring barn
So it’s just better than all the other swords holy shit. I barely tested the illisi when it came out n’ it didn’t seem to do as much damage to enemies as crit sword
olive ember
idk how they'll nerf it tho besides cutting dmg or cleave
spring barn
I’m giga dumb
olive ember
since its already a one charge weapon
ember hornet
put slaughterer and unstable on it
get stacks
one shot everything
kill 20 poxwalkers per swing
spring barn
Fuckin hell
olive ember
is it 20 per swing?
ember hornet
it's 20 per swing with infested yeah
ember hornet
otherwise like 2 swings to kill 30
olive ember
its pretty nuts
spring barn
Got slaughter and executioner on my crit sword and I thought that was mint as hell. Little league shit over here tf
ember hornet
which is still bonkers
olive ember
its basically a discount hsword but better psword now
spring barn
Decimate hordes instantly
ember hornet
and the unpowered attacks are amazing
spring barn
Oh dude hsword is fucking bonkers. Watched a zealot ice skate around last night murdering shit
olive ember
its kinda hilarious
ember hornet
yeah hsword is stupid
olive ember
its unpowered state is basically a slightly worse hsword
except you spam heavies instead of lights
olive ember
I mean if you get it now its still good
ember hornet
psword without pcycler is still better than most melee
olive ember
just that without it its slightly below antax I believe
atleast thats what most of the vets are saying
leaden thunder
with bm and sluaghterer it's still like top 3-4 melees
olive ember
BM antax is better than a none powercycler psword
thats what they say atleast
I always used a bm antax so i couldn't tell
ember hornet
fuck antax users
ember hornet
please delete BM already
spring barn
Oh it’s still pretty solid, I just run a combat knife and a plasma gun or a revolver for my sadism satisfaction
Never had more fun on damnation
spring barn
I came when I saw that
rocky cedar
I had a knife + revolver Zealot in damn the other day and they were useless lol
spring barn
So pumped
olive ember
I like how the fastest and safest way to vent plasma is to fucking reload
its so fucking dumb
spring barn
^
olive ember
the only reason to actually active vent and take dmg is if you need to edge off one last shot to finish something
spring barn
The 20% reload increase perk is top tier
spring barn
I had a knife + revolver Zealot in damn the other day and they were useless lol
Being able to aim helps a fuckton tbh
olive ember
I mean its just that revolver is weak
ember hornet
until you realize
ember hornet
the revolver is the easiest gun to aim with in the entire game
olive ember
its like enough to 2 tap a gunner?
ember hornet
cause it has huge bullet magnetism
spring barn
Headshots kill I’m damn sure
rocky cedar
Being able to aim helps a fuckton tbh
More that they just crumpled to any kind of enemy density
ember hornet
Headshots kill I’m damn sure
they don't
olive ember
2 or 3 headshots idr
ember hornet
2 headshots to a gunner, except the first 1 knocks them down
olive ember
granted i don't have a revolver with good blessings but yeah
spring barn
Last mine does bc it’s got crit damage perks and specialist damage. Haven’t played in a hot minute, but it’s not been an issue yet
spring barn
Oh fuck, then idk
Maybe I just don’t pay attention. But it’s not felt bad either way
olive ember
the rule of thumb is ragers, maulers, shotgunners, gunners, ogryns are all considered elites
everything else is a specialist bar monstrosities (bosses)
spring barn
Remembering that for my last psyker penance
leaden thunder
the rule of thumb is ragers, maulers, shotgunners, gunners, ogryns are all consi...
elites*
spring barn
But yeah idk, past reapers I don’t struggle against much in damnation. Revolver has good pen, and firing into a horde helps thin it a bunch
Plus if you fire 4 shots or less and reload frequently, it’s not hard to manage. Tbh I don’t do it bc it’s optimal, it’s just more fun than running around with a bolter. Plasma is still my main squeeze tho tbh
rocky cedar
How do you afford ammo to shoot into hordes with revolver of all things?
I mean run what ranged you enjoy power to you
But bringing a melee weapon to help cover hordes is probably smart
spring barn
Hit heashots, melee rush when I can, scavenge, idk. Plus melee combat isn’t super hard either way so long as the dodge dance is tight. Poke heads, pox walkers drop easy enough, n the knife is quick
Deffo not optimal, but I’ve never been a hindrance to a team yet. Fingers crossed when I do I have a really angry zealot main in w me too and I cop some Reddit karma from a screenshot
olive ember
I mean the thing is that the only redeemable feature imo is the pull out time for revolver
especially with the auto pistol also just there
spring barn
I’m still yet to try the auto pistol tbh. Just heard about the psyker - autopistol “interaction” though. Been wanting to try that out
olive ember
gotta get that pinning fire and yeah
although the interaction got nerfed cuz burn dmg nerf to flak
the autopistol part is still broken, just the AB part is kinda mid now
upper sage
I got a blue auto pistol with pinning fire last night
worthy moon
Anyone got some good suggestions for pergatus staff build? Just hit lvl 30 and not sure what perks/blessings to go for
north solstice
what i run for damnations
not perfect by any means but you get the idea
warp flurry and warp charge are great to have
olive ember
the typical purge build is something like
spring barn
Makes me wonder if they’re gonna let the soul blaze nerf stick or not. They’ve enjoyed sorta backhand nerfing psyker these last months. Though the latest intended psyker adjustment really make me feel top tier.
north solstice
your dump stat is burn -> Cloud Radius
olive ember
3/1/1/1/1/2
north solstice
^
echo jay
your dump stat is burn -> Cloud Radius
Misinformation 
olive ember
I fucking hate dogs
north solstice
Misinformation <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
i love lying on the internet
magic chasm
I fucking hate dogs
echo jay
i love lying on the internet
😱 you heinous fiend!
ionic needle
Dogs in the dog modifier with a vet on the team is free ammo, so I can't say I hate all dogs
worthy moon
So what blessings and perks should I be going for?
ionic needle
Undercover vet
upper sage
Such talented dogs
olive ember
upper sage
Also when I came back to the game with my like, lvl 17 psyker the highest rof recon las is what made me remember that the game was fun
After that I got a purgatus and suddenly that finally clicked for me
Illisi helped too
ionic needle
Now go autopistol and your journey is complete
worthy moon
warp flurry and warp charge are great to have
Does that mean your charge your staff faster if you chain them?
heady sapphire
Psyker autopistol build OP don't @ me
upper sage
When I stopped playing soon after launch I had swapped to Psyker cause I wanted to cast Makes your Head Explode but it just wasn't feeling good
Glad that I stuck with it and got to 30
ionic needle
Psyker autopistol build OP don't @ me
Yeah it's kind of ridiculous, not looking forward to the pinning fire nerf
heady sapphire
My second psyker build with the autopistol just feels way more OP than my staff build. Especially when it comes to handling monstrosities due to the dmg buff from cerebral lash
magic chasm
Best melee weapons for horde clear? Seems to be force swords so far but I haven't unlocked everything
ionic needle
I tried running lacerations for a bit but I found aura more useful
ionic needle
Best melee weapons for horde clear? Seems to be force swords so far but I haven...
FS mk V
ionic needle
It's good for horde clear too if you keep dodging and aim for the heads
Mk V is crazy with the wide sweeps though
ionic needle
Get one with slaughterer, start off with a special to get some stacks on the blessing and then just melt the horde
I enjoyed surge when I leveled up, but not so much now in higher difficulties
ornate hamlet
Best melee weapons for horde clear? Seems to be force swords so far but I haven...
The Illisi variant.
magic chasm
Yeah I haven't unlocked the illisi or the purge staff yet, leveling a new character is a painful experience
I get to complete a mission about one out of 5 times
ionic needle
Psyker was the first one I leveled and I feel like it was the most annoying to play below level 30, almost feels like it needs the higher tier talents to get rolling
magic chasm
I don't care for the catachans tbh, they don't seem like they do any damage
ornate hamlet
This is just my bias.
magic chasm
Psyker was the first one I leveled and I feel like it was the most annoying to p...
It's honestly not the character, I'm loving psyker. But when you're the last one alive on your team multiple times every mission, it gets to be difficult
I'm having to sweat my ass off on malice just to survive by myself
And coming from being an Ogryn main, surviving by yourself is more difficult as a psyker
ionic needle
Malice is sometimes harder than Heresy due to team mates being bads
ionic needle
Yeah that's quite an enormous difference, haha
Ogryn is a really fun class too though. All of them are tbh, I just like psyker the most.
ionic needle
I played Zealot the least, didnt really enjoy it until i rolled a good combat axe mk v
north solstice
i thoroughly enjoyed playing zealot actually
it just sucks that most of its drip is literal dogwater
north solstice
ogryn is by far the most fun imo
ionic needle
Ogryn is awesome because it feels like you're really benefiting the team by just existing
I don't really enjoy how terrible it feels to enter a room full of shooters on him though
north solstice
shield 
i get happy when i load into a squad with an ogryn
they straight up make missions noticably easier
ionic needle
And drop my horde destroying bull butcher? No thank you sir
north solstice
but you have fumny heaby gun for horde!!1
ionic needle
Shooting into hordes feels disgusting, I played too much VT2 to get used to that
Unless you're running flamethrower
north solstice
i played a lot of drg before this so it feels more normal to shoot into hordes for me lol
small whale
bb is just too good to not use
ionic needle
I can get really pissed watching team mates waste precious ammo on zombies
heady sapphire
I think purgator staff is superior
It depends on what you're aiming to accomplish
ionic needle
I don't tell them though, just sit there and fume
north solstice
I don't get the surge staff at all
surge staff needs a buff thats why
it stuns a max of 5(?) targets
heady sapphire
If you want dps the purg is by far the better option
ionic needle
It needs to hit more targets
north solstice
objectively the weakest although when it does stun those 5 targets it stuns em good
fallow gale
Blessed ammunition
heady sapphire
If you just want to essentially keep enemies off your team the surge is the better option
heady sapphire
On damnation a surge feels more useful because of burster spam
ionic needle
The other staffs do that too though so yeah surge is not in a great spot
north solstice
trauma and purg are decent at cc as well
i love surge, but it is in need of buffs to even be remotely on par
ionic needle
Headshotting a billion zombies with voidstrike sure keeps them off the team as well
magic chasm
I like the purge staff but it's damage leaves a lot to be desired
heady sapphire
If your team needs help with poxwalker control they should probably stay on malice tbf
magic chasm
Oh wait, I'm confusing the purge and the surge
north solstice
lol
magic chasm
Surge is lightning, purge is fire yes?
ionic needle
Yes
leaden thunder
yeah
magic chasm
I like the surge, and haven't unlocked the purge
But mostly for CC cause it doesn't really kill too good
north solstice
baby psyker
magic chasm
I wouldn't be if it didn't take 5-10 missions for one completion
ionic needle
I haven't tried it but I'd run deimos with surge. It's good at horde clear and excellent vs specials/elites while surge stuns them.
magic chasm
The xp you get from failing is terrible
heady sapphire
Needing to hard carry is part of the reason I've stopped playing as much.
magic chasm
I haven't tried it but I'd run deimos with surge. It's good at horde clear and e...
That's what I've been running, it's pretty cool if you remember the stab is coming in your light combo
magic chasm
Needing to hard carry is part of the reason I've stopped playing as much.
I don't mind doing it on characters that are good at doing it, but I'm struggling to carry teams as a level 14 psyker lol
heady sapphire
I mean maybe if the devs would make useful bots I wouldn't need to queue in with people who are trying to do worthless penances on damnation and leave the minute they go down or miss a shot.
magic chasm
I can carry right up until everyone else dies and I get overwhelmed
ionic needle
You guys have terrible luck with randoms it seems
magic chasm
You guys have terrible luck with randoms it seems
Honestly, I've been wracking my brain over this for weeks
magic chasm
I have, but the match making has some kind of level system to it. So it doesn't put me with level 30's who know what they're doing. It puts me with people who are my level and this is their first character
ionic needle
I leveled vet and ogryn in heresy from like level 10 and hardly ever failed a run
faint vault
Finally, it is done!
magic chasm
Congratulations, you won Darktide
faint vault
Nooo, forgot to refine it. Sigh.
ionic needle
Ooh that's really cool
Rerolling infested to maniac? I don't know the laspistol at all
magic chasm
I don't know psyker from a hole in the ground yet really, but is there a reason you would bring a gun instead of a staff?
leaden thunder
either to maniac or flak
faint vault
Yeah, I seem to one shot flak shooters anyway if I hit the head.
ionic needle
I don't know psyker from a hole in the ground yet really, but is there a reason ...
Damage
leaden thunder
thing has really good flak damage already and shitty maniac
ionic needle
And fun
faint vault
Definitely +maniac.
leaden thunder
I don't know psyker from a hole in the ground yet really, but is there a reason ...
can have a 49% damage boost at most times with a gun
heady sapphire
I don't know psyker from a hole in the ground yet really, but is there a reason ...
My autopistol build is my main now lol I only bring out the staff build if I'm playing with people I know I can rely on to fill their roles.
leaden thunder
so guns will (at least for single target) out damage staves a lot of the time
but staves often offer other things
cc, free horde clear etc
ionic needle
My autopistol build is my main now lol I only bring out the staff build if I'm p...
This. With autopistol and illisi a psyker has an answer for every situation
heady sapphire
Way easier for me to carry a round with my autopistol than a staff
ionic needle
Horde? Illisi
Elites/specials? Shredder
Ogryns/bosses? BB
magic chasm
It just seems to me that because staves are unique to psyker and their effects aren't really replicable with other classes it should be brought over a gun, which a vet or a zealot could also have
ornate hamlet
Guns give much faster specialist takedowns at close range
magic chasm
But I forgot this is a tide game so only damage matters
ornate hamlet
And for non-ogryn elites my laspistol is faster than BB
faint vault
Yup
heady sapphire
It just seems to me that because staves are unique to psyker and their effects a...
In an ideal world yeah
ionic needle
What's really unique about psyker is the ability to deal with big things despite of the loadout
ornate hamlet
Well, something being unique shouldn't make it better
ionic needle
Due to BB
magic chasm
I mean damnation I can understand cause damage really is all that matters
steep shuttle
magic chasm
- Damage
- Damage
- Damage
- Don't die
ornate hamlet
We already have that case with the devil's claw
heady sapphire
That's hot
ornate hamlet
No one has any reason to use them over what they already have, since the weapon is just so bad comparatively
steep shuttle
That's hot
It's... shocking 😎
magic chasm
No one has any reason to use them over what they already have, since the weapon ...
But the devil's claw and staves are unique in very different ways
Regardless all my gear is terrible so I'm just going to use whatever they decide to give me
Which, knowing my luck, will also be terrible
ornate hamlet
I mean that the unique weapons shouldn't be brought over in the places of the shared ones just because they're unique
ionic needle
Quell speed below 60%, throw it
faint vault
Best way to try out everything. Keep in mind that some weapons do change a lot with a good roll, tho. Like the trauma staff.
magic chasm
I mean that the unique weapons shouldn't be brought over in the places of the sh...
I'm not saying to bring staves simply because they're unique but how they're unique
ruby plover
magic chasm
And I'm not saying to bring staves really, I'm just questioning as to why a gun is so preferable to the staves
And now I know
ember hornet
devils claw is uniquely shit I guess
ruby plover
baste
ember hornet
gun is preferable because autopistol exists
heady sapphire
Autopistol so busted
ionic needle
And pinning fire
ornate hamlet
Even the damage part varies because some guns don't really handle crowds properly while all staves handle them competently
ruby plover
buff recon i want to be a recon gunker
faint vault
Surge sucks at hordes.
ornate hamlet
Sometimes I forget the laziest staff exists
ember hornet
yeah but they made it so the only thing that matters is dealing with 200 specials
heady sapphire
Recon las = fun garbage
Autopistol = fun s tier
faint vault
Laspistol = gigachad.
ornate hamlet
I erased surge from my memory due to psykers who only spam surge and do nothing else
faint vault
It hurts.
ruby plover
tbh
faint vault
But it's fun. Been playing lots of surge recently, just to play more with Illisi.
ruby plover
surge spam psykers are pretty high on my list of shitty teammates ill take
ember hornet
if the illisi is what you need to make surge build viable..... there may be a problem
heady sapphire
I erased surge from my memory due to psykers who only spam surge and do nothing ...
@ me next time
ornate hamlet
north solstice
I wouldn't be if it didn't take 5-10 missions for one completion
i can run some with you later
ruby plover
waaaaaaaay better than people who only use BB or shit ogryns
ornate hamlet
Are you a surge psyker
magic chasm
4 games in a row with 3 psykers and another character LOL
ionic needle
i can run some with you later
I'd be up for that too
magic chasm
I've been seeing a lot of psykers lately, on all my characters
heady sapphire
Are you a surge psyker
Unlimited power staff best staff
magic chasm
Did they buff them recently or something
north solstice
i havent been having any luck with damnation pubs so im free rn
ruby plover
Did they buff them recently or something
yes
north solstice
psykers used to be pretty dooky
magic chasm
Yeah I rolled a psyker before anything and stopped before level 5 in open beta lol
Then rolled Ogryn and never played anything else till recently
upper sage
Staffs also mean more ammo for the rest of the team, is that worth anything?
magic chasm
Staffs also mean more ammo for the rest of the team, is that worth anything?
Depending on your teams make up and loadout I'd say so
Grenades too
north solstice
its just an additional bonus but usually theres always more than enough ammo to go around during missions
heady sapphire
Staffs also mean more ammo for the rest of the team, is that worth anything?
Definitely worth something if you’re playing with people who like to just spam bullet
magic chasm
its just an additional bonus but usually theres always more than enough ammo to ...
Until it's a psyker and 3 Ogryn and the big boys are empty before you're halfway through LOL
heady sapphire
Braced autogun enjoyers have entered the chat
ornate hamlet
Staffs also mean more ammo for the rest of the team, is that worth anything?
Honestly I don't think so
magic chasm
3 stubber Ogryn will take a maps worth of ammo like it's breakfast, it's crazy
faint vault
There's usually plenty of ammo to go around, to be honest. And it's not like every match has a set up with a bullet hungry vet.
ornate hamlet
I don't think the devs balanced ammo pickups thinking of the match always having a psyker
faint vault
Nope.
magic chasm
I don't think they balanced ammo pick ups at all
Some missions they're everywhere, some there's like 5 total
ornate hamlet
The pickups should accommodate 4 players, provided they aren't that one player that magdumps an autogun or a flamer on a crowd
magic chasm
But using the surge staff currently and not even having to think about ammo or grenades is pretty dang sweet
faint vault
It is, I'll admit.
heady sapphire
Who are y’all queuing in with cause I get randoms who run through their ammo like it’s going out of style and I’ll watch an ogryn with white ammo stat take all the ammo supply while the other two teammates are in the red.
magic chasm
Who are y’all queuing in with cause I get randoms who run through their ammo lik...
Same friend, same
faint vault
Hehehe'
magic chasm
The things I have witnessed in this game boggle the mind
ornate hamlet
Meanwhile I've done damnation runs with recon on the psyker and barely grabbed ammo pickups 
The game has some very magical ammo economy if you click heads every once in a while
magic chasm
Meanwhile I've done damnation runs with recon on the psyker and barely grabbed a...
Ngl as vet I have never ran out of ammo with the mgxi las gun
faint vault
I think we're naturally more averse to using too many bullets, in fear of being yelled at.
ornate hamlet
That we are
magic chasm
I hardly run out of ammo on anything but Ogryn if I'm having to mag dump a lot
And on Ogryn only the ripper or stubber maybe
ornate hamlet
"Stop using your laspistol to take down enemies in 3 shots, the brauto vet needs 400 ammo after the last pickup that was literally 20 seconds ago"
faint vault
People won't bat an eye if said Ogryn goes bananas, but will vote kick a psyker grabbing a small ammo supply at orange.
magic chasm
The problem is people wasting whole mags on pox walkers
heady sapphire
I only run out of ammo if I’m trolling with a braced autogun
magic chasm
I've watched Ogryn dump 200 rounds of stubber ammo into a pox walker horde when they have a bull butcher mk 3 as their melee weapon
Why
north solstice
to be fair
leaden thunder
happens alot more recently
north solstice
its fun to mag dump into crowds
ornate hamlet
I occasionally shoot crowds with the laspistol because I feel bad about being white all the time
magic chasm
its fun to mag dump into crowds
It is! Not denying that! But don't do the shit on damn and hoover up all the ammo for everyone else in the process right?
ornate hamlet
faint vault
I occasionally shoot crowds with the laspistol because I feel bad about being wh...
Haha, that's classic.
north solstice
It is! Not denying that! But don't do the shit on damn and hoover up all the amm...
being an ammo hog is also part of the fun
ornate hamlet
Suffering from success
magic chasm
Giving Ogryn bad names
Mag dumpers and shield users make the rest of us look bad
And non box throwers
north solstice
i liked using the shield 😢
leaden thunder
it's terrible
magic chasm
i liked using the shield 😢
Lots of people do, but that's a whole can of worms there brother
magic chasm
Say that in Ogryn chat and you will see Several people typing.... Immediately LOL
They just need to buff it seriously
faint vault
The magic of the box. Gotta spread that shit.
magic chasm
It's very much not good
leaden thunder
i mean, if you say you like using it, then that normally is fine, but it's the people that say it's good
magic chasm
The magic of the box. Gotta spread that shit.
This. If you're an Ogryn and you aren't boxing mutants, you are objectively wrong
north solstice
i love the shield aspect it just needs better dmg/cc
ornate hamlet
faint vault
They confirmed that they're reworking the shield, tho.
ruby plover
ogryn players on their way to ult 40 poxwalkers for some reason
magic chasm
Boxing a mutant increasing team morale by 69%
leaden thunder
it does
magic chasm
They confirmed that they're reworking the shield, tho.
Yeah I just hope they do it justice
leaden thunder
always box muties
heady sapphire
ogryn players on their way to ult 40 poxwalkers for some reason
Stomping snivelers
magic chasm
Protect the vets and the psykers! The zealots are on their own
Literally and figuratively
Cause they ran 100 yards away from the rest of the team for no reason
ruby plover
are u new
ruby plover
well zealot is by far most effectively played separate from the team
magic chasm
Ahh of course, that's why I watch them die all day yes
leaden thunder
I mean the amount of zealots that do that
ruby plover
i mean 99% of ogryn players i see make the run take twice as long
ruby plover
that doesnt mean ogryns are a bad class lol
leaden thunder
most zealots don't run that far ahead out of combat
magic chasm
Show me where I said zealot was a bad class
heady sapphire
Ah yes it’s so much fun random queueing into damnation with 3 zealots as a psyker and you find yourself all alone and then the zealots all die first one by one cause they’re progressing too quickly on their own.
magic chasm
I said they die because they're never with the team
ruby plover
you're right ur clearly a zealot expert mb .b
tell me more about how zealot is played
leaden thunder
I mean that's not the point
not shitty zealots don't run that far ahead out of combat generally
you dive gunners and shite
heady sapphire
Found the zealot who goes down and blames the team for not pushing to their rescue
leaden thunder
a lot of bad zealots run way ahead out of combat
ruby plover
oh dear
magic chasm
I think you're a little bit salty for no reason. So I'm just going to block you because I'm over listening to cringe lord's on this discord
Anyways
ornate hamlet
Chad zealots diving ranged enemies to give the team breathing room 
ruby plover
k bye
ruby plover
Chad zealots diving ranged enemies to give the team breathing room <:chadogryn:1...
how bout u stick with the team
protect the vets
heady sapphire
With the nerf to the only viable vet cleave weapon the vets do be needing a lot more protection
faint vault
I have no idea what happened to the conversation. Anyways, did you like my new lasgun?
ruby plover
With the nerf to the only viable vet cleave weapon the vets do be needing a lot ...
is this bait
ornate hamlet
Today I will aggro a bulwark and not turn his back to the vet
ruby plover
like
ruby plover
ur actually baiting right
ornate hamlet
ngl power sword is still fucking good
heady sapphire
Y r u triggered agen ?
ruby plover
look man when people say something thats obviously nonsense
ita good to check if its bait before correcting them
simple as
ionic needle
boxing mutants is the absolute best part of being an ogryn
magic chasm
boxing mutants is the absolute best part of being an ogryn
And the new physics make it so satisfying
faint vault
No, the best part is hitting that sniper across the map with a box from the top of the train while defending it.
ionic needle
I once boxed a sniper from really far away, that was fun too
magic chasm
Having a mutant fall at your teammates feet right before they pounded their faces in cause you're a box god is chefs kiss
faint vault
It's soooo satisfying.
magic burrow
by far the wrost thing about zealots, and I mean by far the worst thing is
none of them ever go "stop, hammer time"
stable silo
keep fighting it entertains me
ruby plover
stable silo
i like the abuse so you can only win by saying nice things i hate that
stable silo
and no one ever on the internet says nice things
ruby plover
god damnit we took it the same way
stable silo
see
ionic needle
you seem like a nice person, I hope you get more people saying nice things to you
ruby plover
stable silo
does it or doesnt it?
if the ass isnt there to be beat is it truly beaten
btw i run so far ahead of my group when i play zealot because i have anger issues over my HS
it constantly taunts me with its imperfection
ruby plover
thats funny i run ahead because i see perfection in front of me
and i must have it
but the further i run the further it gets...
anyways the perfection is chaxe 
stable silo
i wanted to try the axe im running chain sword on my vet but i fear chainge
stable silo
this is the HS i post like at least once every 2 days to complain about its 25% maniac now though instead of spec dmg
cyan notch
zamn
ruby plover
o hell
cyan notch
do it
clever root
I wanna play Psyker again after not playing it for ages, what's a good build in terms of feats? I currently have a Mk V blaze force sword and mark VI surge staff if that helps
ornate hamlet
THREE A BUNCH OF ONES AND THREE
JESUS CHRIST I HATE THIS BOT
Basically bottom, all up and then bottom again
Because comfy
steel flame
I wanna play Psyker again after not playing it for ages, what's a good build in ...
quicken is very strong now
wispy dew
If you want a breakdown of how and why I use what I use it’s 3,2,1,1,1,3, quietude is almost a must, inner tranquility is good for managing peril, psychic communion keeps your warp charges up in high intensity situations, kinetic deflection is great with a force sword, using the first action to stun instead of stun pushing helps your teammates clear close quarters, warp battery is a good combo with psychic communion, the extra 12% peril resistance is noticeable for me, kinetic barrage is good for helping get rid of long range high dps specialists and stunning unyielding enemies
wispy dew
I also use purg staff
wispy dew
I feel it needs a buff with the flame range and contact, the flamer and purg staff are fun but there’s a huge difference in how the interact with enemies
steel flame
it now powers up soulblaze along with everything else
clever root
If you want a breakdown of how and why I use what I use it’s 3,2,1,1,1,3, quietu...
I'll try it 
👍
wispy dew
It takes some time to get used too, just try to remember to prioritize the long range specials with the barrage shotgunners and ragers get stomped if you’re in the back of your squad
ember hornet
trauma or surge maybe
wispy dew
Deft
leaden thunder
it's for ascendant blaze moreso then the purge itself
leaden thunder
you need warp unleashed to 1 shot stalkers with 6 stacks of soulblaze
assuming no other damage boosts
and no flak perk
clever root
So since I have surge I would want warp unleashed?
leaden thunder
it also makes your melee do a lot more damage
and on surge you need all the damage you can get on your melee
cyan notch
Replace Blazing with Slaughter?
yea
leaden thunder
becuase your staff isn't doing it
wispy dew
The damage would actually be affected by the percentages not so much purg
clever root
👍
cyan notch
yea its aight
wispy dew
My build was honestly more optimized for the pre nerf psyker when you could indefinitely tank enemies
It was too broken
cyan notch
So since I have surge I would want warp unleashed?
also helps your bb
wispy dew
I also did pick n mix that build, the resistance with barrage is what let me kill 6 in the matter of time I needed
wintry plover
Is tac axe any good? Emrah gave me this
leaden thunder
swap decimator to brutal momentum and it's goated
steep shuttle
what's the attack pattern on that?
leaden thunder
the 7 has a mix of the other 2
on lights and heavies
I beleive the 7 is better then the other 2, it does more armor damage idk if it has any downsides for that bonus tho
olive ember
This is what I run on my surge staff and auto pistol psykers
Purge swap aura for communion, flayer for warp battery, and KB for AB
shadow wigeon
So since I have surge I would want warp unleashed?
I would start with 321113 as mentioned aboved. Use Tranquility, not Warp Unleashed.
wintry plover
Need shared inventory pls that would be goated
Yeah I've got a stockpile of guns on my psyker too in case they ever allow sharing
worthy moon
I just hit 30 and want to get some ‘good’ weapons. If Brunt has no weapon I want, should I buy grey items and try to fish for some high % rolls in the right areas and then try to get a T4 blessing from weekly shop to put on it?
shadow wigeon
I just hit 30 and want to get some ‘good’ weapons. If Brunt has no weapon I want...
Yes, although I wouldn't do that right at 30, just because you can bankrupt yourself quickly, and you should try more builds out first to see what you like.
worthy moon
I’ve tried all of the staves and I’m obsessed with the Purg staff and force sword
shadow wigeon
I’ve tried all of the staves and I’m obsessed with the Purg staff and force swor...
Cool. In that case, it's fair game to start rolling greys.
worthy moon
I know it got nerfed but I find it fun. I have like 180k, 6k plas and 3k dia
Been saving while I level
worthy moon
It’s from level 23 with like 60% on everything
So anything will be an upgrade at this point
shadow wigeon
You could start buying greys. I would not upgrade anything below 350/360, or that does not have the stats you really want
worthy moon
So buy grey purg staves, if they are 360+ with 70-80% then upgrade them to blue and see blessings/perks?
shadow wigeon
So buy grey purg staves, if they are 360+ with 70-80% then upgrade them to blue ...
Yeah - you're ideally hoping for a good perk and blessing, but worst case you are fishing for blessings in general
worthy moon
Guessing highest in burn, damage, cloud?
And try for warp nexus/flurry?
And to find these blessings I can buy items from weekly store and put them onto my best item I’ve got from store?
Sorry for 10,000 questions
shadow wigeon
Burn, Cloud first, quell and warp res and both good, but matter a bit less on purg. Damage is not a huge factor.
shadow wigeon
Sorry for 10,000 questions
NP main psyker happy to help
Cloud and burn will define most of what you do to help your team out
And you're on a budget here 😮
shadow wigeon
And try for warp nexus/flurry?
Yes, both are good, but not that critical for purg.
worthy moon
I’m ready to grind, I’m addicted to this game 😂 I’ll just use the 180k and see what weapon rolls I get then I guess
shadow wigeon
To be conserative, stop the moment you hit a decent one, and try upgafing
You really want to get into damnation for the fat rewards
and you don't need a max level staff to start smashing it
worthy moon
Yes, both are good, but not that critical for purg.
What would you suggest? A few people mentioned focused channeling
olive ember
warp flurry and warp nexus
focused channeling for those with a lack of skill I suppose
worthy moon
I just want to get into dsmnation and then try to min/max
shadow wigeon
What would you suggest? A few people mentioned focused channeling
Flurry will turn it into a torrent, BUT you spend most of your time blasting, not charging, so the impact isn't huge. It is strong in tight spots, however, especially high intensity.
Nexus adds bonus burn stacks, but you won't know, so it's sort of free damage you won't be aware of. It won't change your gameplay much until you're really aware.
Channeling isn't really necessary. Don't get hit? You can purg from safe locatins, and dodge.
worthy moon
I usually just dodge and kite the packs that I’m burning. Do you have any other recommendations then?
shadow wigeon
I usually just dodge and kite the packs that I’m burning. Do you have any other ...
Burn is strong on bosses, so keep the stacks at maximum.
Slaughtere (+power) on your force sword will boost the damage of burn stacks, so you can set things on fire, then switch to FS, get some kills, and your burn stacks will tick higher.
Warp Nexus stacks are at 20/40/60/80% peril, so if you're using Nexus, don't be afraid of flaming at higher peril for those bonus stacks
LMB on purg has value. You can use it to quickly stagger some enemies now and then.
worthy moon
Thank you so much for all of your help! I just wanted to make sure that I’m heading in the correct direction
For blessings, can I only change 1 blessing per weapon?
So essentially I have to find a weapon with 1 good blessing and nice rolls and a weapon from the weekly store to change onto my main staff
shadow wigeon
For blessings, can I only change 1 blessing per weapon?
Once you have changed a blessing OR a perk, you will not be able to cjange the OTHER blessing or oerk.
primal plume
Whats the minimal amount of peril needed for warp unleashed?
shadow wigeon
So essentially I have to find a weapon with 1 good blessing and nice rolls and a...
Yeah when you are rolling greys, your goal is to get good stats, then roll good perk and good blessing.
And if you DON'T roll both good.... walk away. The upgrade cost rises very quickly.
Plasteel is the most precious resource
worthy moon
So just upgrade to blue basically and then stop if stats/blessing/perks sucks
shadow wigeon
So just upgrade to blue basically and then stop if stats/blessing/perks sucks
For now, yes, otherwise you will burn out of mats very quickly
If you hit a good perk and blessing, then you're safe to upgrade to yellow (even if you don't have the blessing you want to replace on it, you'll get it eventually)
worthy moon
What if I get good perk and blessing but not great rolls on stats?
shadow wigeon
What if I get good perk and blessing but not great rolls on stats?
Don't roll if it has bad stats?
- Buy greys until you hit a good roll
- Upgrade it to blue and see what you get
- If perk and blessing are good - you've got a top tier weapon (if not now then eventually)
- Sell everything else (including any failed blue upgrades, when you're sure you don't want them)
olive ember
this is for min maxing?
worthy moon
And only replace with t4 blessings?
shadow wigeon
And only replace with t4 blessings?
Nah that'll take awhile to get all the T4's you want. T3's are great.
worthy moon
Looking forward to rolling in the RNG machine
Thank you @shadow wigeon for all of your help. Do you stream or have a YouTube?
shadow wigeon
Thank you <@398461536705970178> for all of your help. Do you stream or have a Yo...
np enjoy psyker. No, I don't
worthy moon
Looking forward to burning the horde down! Shame, I would have subbed on twitch/YouTube 😄
magic burrow
I wish they would just buff brainburst so you can hit the breakpoints for Ogryns without warp unleashed
as it is now, warp unleashed is a 100% mustpick on any build, just for brainburst alone. Everything else it does is just gravy/
ionic needle
You could do all that grinding and RNG stuff or you could, and hear me out, Melk:
wheat wren
Is auto pistol psyker solid? I don't see any of our passives assisting it
magic burrow
melk has the gems sometimes, but mostly he just likes showing me an inventory full of devil's claws and laser rifles
olive ember
Auto pistol is good because autopistol is op
but yes its one of our meta builds
run the build I posted imo for AP psyker
You can consider swapping aura for communion and KB for AB if you think the fire is helpful
ionic needle
I'm running this but changing to Quietitude now to try it out
olive ember
Also its because I run the illisi
so quietitude lets me generate toughness whenever by stroking it
ionic needle
Yeah and AB really isn't worth it if you're running Illisi
AB just increases horde clear speed, KB increases elite killing speed
magic burrow
isnt the point of the shredder to do massive damage with pinning fire and ascendant blaze?
ionic needle
The point of the shredder is to shred
Illisi is good horde clear enough, no need to spec into it
A weakpoint of Illisi/Shredder is that you're kind of shit vs carapace and bosses
KB makes up for that
olive ember
Tbh KB works just fine
magic burrow
and yeah with that build I would use quietude over essence harvest because I dont see that build generating enough warp charges to get toughness back without having to resort to brainburst spam
olive ember
AB is good against horde and also good against shooter packs (well before burn nerf to flak hurts)
with the pinning fire buff
but yeah KB works just fine
you basically don't get the interaction between AB and pinning fire
but the auto pistol itself is still broke af
and KB helps cover its weakpoints like rly long range enemies, bulwarks, or crushers
ofc that does mean I'm relying on melee horde clear
ionic needle
HI ST T5 and we got like three rooms in before we died, it's crazy how many special spawns there are
olive ember
hi5s is like that
people say its basically difficulty 6 and tbh yeah I'll agree with that
ionic needle
I've cleared quite a few of them, but it's insanely reliant on getting good teammates
olive ember
don't expect to win when playing h5s in pugs in pugs tbh
I think I've beaten 1 in 6 pug matches of h5s
ionic needle
Regular HI 5 is okay, it's just with shock troops as well it's getting a bit intense
olive ember
Basically
worthy moon
Can you get mods for this game?
leaden thunder
yeah
ionic needle
I'm not really sold on quietitude
cyan notch
HI ST T5 and we got like three rooms in before we died, it's crazy how many spec...
yeah its uh it gets worse the longer u take
olive ember
I'm not really sold on quietitude
its def takes time to get used to
it also suits high peril playstyles better
worthy moon
Oh wow, anyone any suggestions on good QOL mods?
olive ember
like if you are constantly on hi peril
olive ember
Oh wow, anyone any suggestions on good QOL mods?
reroll mod is basically a must
ionic needle
I'll try it out some more
olive ember
theres also the quick travel mod where you access all the menus
ionic needle
To get used to it
olive ember
tbf for gun psyker specifically
1 also works p well
2 is only good if you have illisi
the special on the illisi can give like 80% toughness back on a good swing
if you are running warp absorption
and 3 is basically general use
ionic needle
wtf
darktide crashed and it crashed my discord at the same time??
it's pulling other programs down with it now??
stable silo
Maybe your pulling down both yourself with the weight of your mighty bickus
scarlet bear
How are the new swords?
olive ember
Illisi is generally considered the best melee in the game
ionic needle
Deimos is awesome too though
olive ember
Deimos is single target beast that’s just a better dueling sword in general
stable silo
dont worry i diggus your name
faint vault
❤️
olive ember
… 8% dmg role
faint vault
Totally awesome.
nimble burrow
yeah its uh it gets worse the longer u take
I actually died seeing that
stable silo
dude
thats the making of a best in slot firesword
slap shred and blazing soul on there u can stax procs like a man
olive ember
He’s gotta get blazing spirit and shred first lmao
stable silo
u just need 1 and the rest fills itself hopefully crit chance perk
faint vault
Oh dude. Definitely doing that.
I seem to get blazing III on every Illisi I upgrade. Crossing my fingers.
ionic needle
Okay I'm sold on queititude now, I love the feeling of pulling out of a horde to give my sword a few strokes before going back deep into it
tropic lagoon
Isnt blazing spirit kind of bad?
leaden thunder
yes, but funni fire sword
tropic lagoon
Especially when slaughterer is such low hanging fruit?
stable silo
think of it this way u spam the low dmg sword but u dont kill anything u just crit and proc fire then spread it with wildifre
then 3 -4 minutes later u got a dead horde
blazing oak
Challenge runs
You aren’t a true psyker unless you’ve done solo HIShock 5 no feats brainburst only
near wyvern
got the untouchable with illisi + MG IV 111111 build 😄, Damnation lo
while dealing top damage
worthy moon
got the untouchable with illisi + MG IV 111111 build 😄, Damnation lo
Is this a mod?
north solstice
yeah its a scoreboard mod
primal plume
Scuffed or salvagable?
north solstice
i mean id use it
but you should prolly sell it for the 5k ordos
just to be safe
ionic needle
Too bad shredder can't get blazing spirit :<
ruby plover
soooooooo true
ionic needle
that would be really cool tbh
faint vault
I think he is putting it on the 8% damage sword
Correct!
near wyvern
Why do I still have the feeling Illisi is just still gonna kill stuff even with 8% damage roll xD
ruby plover
because it will
ionic needle
What's the play here? I guess swap sustained fire for surge and one of the perks for 5% crit?
long wharf
What we really need is blazing spirit on surge staff
what we really really need is for all staves to be different variations of the same base weapon, so that they all get the same blessings
near wyvern
When I play Illisi I just hold down shift and heavy light my way through. You can sprint during the heavy and just zoom around. Mix in some dodges during the lights and Zealots be like "wait a minute, who is this priest?"
near wyvern
what we *really* really need is for all staves to be different variations of the...
That would make the playtime figures less bloated, looks bad for the investors. Players can eat shit, they have done it before and they will do it now.
Sincerely 
ionic needle
That would require all staffs to have the same blessings though, which would be weird no?
Would be better if shared blessings were just... shared across weapon types
long wharf
the staves definitely should all be Mk variations of a base staff
and I should absolutely be able to get blazing spirit on my surge staff grumble
how awesome would be it to stun things and light them on warpfire, and then spread all that warpfire with my Illisi
north solstice
would you actually be able to use wildfire in that scenario or would it still be dog?
kind jay
nah you dont want blazing. what you want is surge on surge.
and charge time should increase targets up to 10
near wyvern
would you actually be able to use wildfire in that scenario or would it still be...
Wildlife is bugged AF, let's talk about it again when they fix it
north solstice
in a perfect world assume its fixed
leaden thunder
assuming it's fixed i'd use it a decent bit
near wyvern
in a perfect world assume its fixed
Can't state anything cause can't test it in a fixed state
north solstice
Can't state anything cause can't test it in a fixed state
youre horrific
near wyvern
youre horrific
I am scientific so I don't make assumptions. That's the principle behind the Psyker Atheneum (pinned message) as well. Assumptions can be wrong.
leaden thunder
I feel like surge with blazing could make good usage of wildfire since it'd help it's limited target cap for spreading the dot
past brook
first the armory gave me this with 25% damage vs flak, then hadron went and gave me transfer peril
finally, I have my first good staff after far too many hours lol
just gotta find the right blessing to replace sustained fire with and I'm golden
leaden thunder
warp flurry in place of sustained
the low charge rate is a bit sadge
but flurry should help it out a lot
past brook
charge rate goes from 1.9s to 1.6s
not missing anything really lol
should I swap out maniac for anything else, or roll it for 25%?
