#psyker-class

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olive ember
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You had to shove it in their face, even when they wanted to refute it smh

spice veldt
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that's true

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I don't know why I'm working against myself anyways

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I want to hog all the kills in a game

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smh

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just humble me nerfing myself

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I genuinely get happy when I see psykers with deimos and other melee weapons since that means that I get to hog the melee kills

olive ember
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You would love playing with me then

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I bring the obscures

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šŸ™‚

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ā€œLate Aprilā€ so I’d say expect next week or the week after

spice veldt
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time to style on this OLD and OUT WITH THE TIMES fella

idle bay
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Any news on console launch for Karktide and about cross-play?

olive ember
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Lmao they mentioned it in stream apparently but the response was kinda disappointing apparently

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Basically no real date but not forgotten

idle bay
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it will revitalize game a bit...

olive ember
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Something about getting it to good state first blah blah

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Idrk most of the time I play darktide I’m like spaced out trying to kill time

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Only the salt and anger from shitty teammates briefly awakens me

idle bay
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Also playing with clueless newbies have it's own charm

olive ember
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The charm of role playing a babysitter

idle bay
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I had one very heartwarming mission with at least 2 players being very fresh, they kept taking damage and going down, but. And it's a great but - they did thier best to stay in coherency and stick together and close to me - that make me smile and caused a few sentimental tears to come out

idle bay
digital loom
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i have come to conclusion that damage is the dump stat on trauma

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my staff with 49% damage is cleaning the same way my staff with 80% damage does

spice veldt
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yup; you can usually hit the breakpoints with the help of warp charges/perks

fiery atlas
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redditor discovers horde clear weapon almost a month after release

spice veldt
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could also just be people recently coming back to the game tbf

pearl lion
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Yeah this is probably it

spice veldt
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I took focused channeling off my trauma and kept on getting staggered out of my cast since I have the habit of sprint-sliding with it constantly

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was very sad

primal plume
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which of these 2 should I keep?

final scarab
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i would keep the first one but i rarely use trauma

spice veldt
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not great choices, but probably the right one?

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it could really go either way; I'd just grab a coin and flip it to decide

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or left one; I'm not sure about the quell speed scaling, but it's probably fine to lose some quell speed

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now that I think about it more, probably the left one

drowsy slate
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I like second more

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I think unyielding is better than carapace

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Also I don’t think you will recognize warp flurry 3 to 4 on trauma

near wyvern
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People do weird things for internet points.

spice veldt
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the title does have the implication of the illisi being underrated when it's really not, but I think it's fine

cyan notch
past brook
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it's just occurred to me that the dueling swords are psyker only, yet they don't have any sort of warp ability to them
like how the laspistol special push is a warp push when you use it on psyker
wonder why they didn't bother making anything special for it

cyan notch
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yeah well its a such an iconic fencing weapon that space mages were so famous for using that it didnt need anymore uniqueness

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they went yknow what fuck it no cleave blessings no nothing just lotsa garbage

viral solstice
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duelling sword needs more cool s hit

past brook
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speaking of, the dueling sword special is kind of crap, isn't it?

viral solstice
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its uh

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a lil goofy

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certainly not as spicy as i woulda thought i t should be

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i think one duelling sword has its heavy damage reversed too

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like it has a stab heavy that has no where near the right damage

cyan notch
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thatll be mk2

past brook
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I used that for ages in the early days of psyker, no wonder it felt wonky

cyan notch
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heavy 1 does less than heavy 2

edgy lotus
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what are good blessings for Maccabian sword?

ornate hamlet
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Dueling sword needs BM

viral solstice
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a heavy attack

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amazing

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yeah thats the fucked on

idle bay
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Something like Durchsetzungburg shool of fencing from 7th Sea RPG

trail oar
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This isn't S-tier, but i am pretty happy with it šŸ™‚

edgy lotus
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What would be S Tier

trail oar
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Higher blessings and that coveted 380 modifier would be a dream

edgy lotus
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Marginal difference. This is S Tier

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One day these weapons will be considered rubbish, when we can go 100%

trail oar
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I dream of the day red items will be revealed

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I just wonder how we'll unlock them

edgy lotus
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$$$$$

trail oar
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Yea :C

still socket
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what blessings for Purgatus? thx in advance

drowsy slate
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Warp nexus and no interrupt

ornate hamlet
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So apparently reducing particle intensity on the config file reduces not only flame particles, but also can remove hit effects and toughness break

viral solstice
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theres a mod that just removes fullscreen effects

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so u can pick

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if das what u w anna do

ornate hamlet
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No no, I was just wanting to reduce the particle lag from flames and horde blood

stuck sinew
radiant lance
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Worth buying?

safe crystal
# radiant lance Worth buying?

I wouldnt buy this unless you dont have a trauma yet. The perks are not great, and its missing flurry, although that can be slotted in

radiant lance
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Thought the Rending blessing might be worth. Thanks šŸ™‚

twilit badger
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Psykers

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Please stop bringing Shredder please

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Bring staffs instead

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Thanks

summer prairie
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Pretty nice when they fix surge

edgy lotus
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Any suggestions?

radiant lance
edgy lotus
radiant lance
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Unstable Power is an option

edgy lotus
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it's only +4% power though.

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Does it stack at all?

radiant lance
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Yeah, it's 4% per 20% peril

frail berry
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unstable is what I have been told to partner with slaughterer

ornate hamlet
cloud sequoia
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you can use quell on hit + slaughterer/unstable

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or deflector

radiant lance
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Anyone tried Bloodthirsty?

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Seems really good.

cyan notch
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it was till they nerfed it

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now its kinda lame

frail berry
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I have also seen shred on some above. Just less sure about how to build Illisi...

ornate hamlet
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No shred

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Shred is for the meme fire blessing and that thing won't overtake just using the special and mauling things dead

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Also 7a recon psyker is actually kinda competent loregryn

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The gun is killing in 3-ish bodyshots

faint vault
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Laspistol with fullauto is great.

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Running ghost and toughness regen. It's hilarious.

cyan notch
ornate hamlet
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I'm liking it

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It's nothing to write home about, but fun to use

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Though maybe I just got the right stuff clicking together

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I remember it being ass when I tried it on its own

radiant lance
cyan notch
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its next swing after special kill

tropic lagoon
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do any other psyker weapons roll with critical bonus stat besides surge?

cyan notch
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tac axes

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revolver

ornate hamlet
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Laspistol has innate crit chance, I think

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I can't find the list on search, but I think Sean has one with the values

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If memory doesn't fail me it was +10%

twilit badger
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Gun psykers ew

ornate hamlet
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Psyker stilll OP?

twilit badger
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No not OP

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Psyker never OP

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WTF

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Psyker sufferz

ornate hamlet
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Okay so Psyker is still OP

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Good to know

twilit badger
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OP your arse

ornate hamlet
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Hey hey.

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Dinner first.

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I'd like dinner, I'm kinda hungry

twilit badger
idle bay
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There is a sense in a saying that "Psyker is not OP" - less chance for future nerfs

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Now there should be a campaign about ""Volley fire is too OP. Please nerf" from the same players who baited Fatshark into nerfing Flamers and Powersords.

twilit badger
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No there shouldn't

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Vet already suffering from PS nerf

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They killed vet class

idle bay
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Need to suffer more šŸ™‚

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Like we did

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And only after everything is taken from them - buffed back to glory šŸ™‚

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Meta-rotation-cycle

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And it needs to feel personal - like nerfing Kentarel MG XII, and camouflage feat šŸ™‚

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Last one will add positive reviews

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And there will be tasty incoherent screaching from camo -vets šŸ™‚

twilit badger
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No

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Taking away guns from Psyker first

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Then vet camo nerf

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Respect duh line bruh.

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Not your turn yet.

idle bay
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Taking away few guns from Psyker (bad guns) - will be a massive buff to class - easier to finally karking get staffs!

edgy kite
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Worth?

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Nevermind, misread the burn

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1% off, bastard

idle bay
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And first perk borked - turning upgrade into bad gamble

summer prairie
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you can get it for the blessing anyway

edgy kite
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Low on funds so I'll just pass on it

grizzled jasper
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Give vet staffs

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Gunpsyker and wizardvet

twilit badger
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Yes

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I want to use void with volleyfire on

gloomy gulch
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debating if this is worth it

river sand
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depends ....

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stats wise its not super good, but tbh a low dmg roll on trauma isnt the worst thing that can happen. you can keep the 20 flak and roll unarmoured or infested. you can either keep focused and add flurry, or make a meme staff with blazing spirit. or you just strip the nexus off

gloomy gulch
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I was going to take nexus off for this one

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why did I keep blazing spirit on this one, I dont know this was a while ago Im pretty sure the other blessing as a tier 1

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I think it was tier 1 warp nexus actually

river sand
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question is, how much marks do you have? is that staff all you can afford ? skip it. are in the 10ks and want to complete your blessing collection ? go for it

gloomy gulch
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yeah I only have 4k

river sand
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then you probably gonna bit your ass if tomorrow you can buy a slaughterer 4 force sword ^^

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i got a good rolled nexus / spirit trauma. its not worth it. go for flurry with inner tranq

leaden thunder
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the rule of melk dictates that if he buys it now then the sword will apear as he won't be able to buy it

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but if he doesn't buy this then it won't appear

gloomy gulch
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this is true and I already have unstable power 4 so

river sand
gloomy gulch
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would be nice to have slaughter 4 šŸ˜„

river sand
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šŸ˜‰

still socket
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i read earlier that u can reduce fire effect from flamers and staff. does one remember or know?

chrome arch
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You mean visual effects?

uneven drift
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From flamer no, but for peril effect should be in settings, interface i guess.

steep shuttle
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does Purg staff have something like Showstopper?

uneven drift
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No.

crude trout
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is quell speed the dump stat for trauma?

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nevermind, tested quelling in psykhanium and quell speed is shit

leaden thunder
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I mean it's a dump but not that much of a dump

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most dump stats you don't want that low

karmic copper
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@river sand that sword a bute

fresh steeple
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I lament the blessing lock system a lot more this morning than usual. I had a nearly picture-perfect max stat Trauma Staff with good perks that got bricked from blessing rolls

river sand
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perfect trauma for me would be 80 damage/charge rate 75 blast/warp 70 quell

grizzled jasper
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Wizard space ninja letsgooo

ornate hamlet
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Note that they say "earn" in the notes

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Can't wait for them to make it a purchase instead

gilded viper
mellow minnow
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I need the eyes cover with the top arching bit, but it's nice nonetheless

gilded viper
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that look so cool

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so glad i saved my money on buying stuff instill now

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WAIT IT FREE

edgy kite
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Is it actually something ingame?

gilded viper
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edgy kite
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Oo nice

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What curio blessings do you feel are optimal? Currently running stamina wound and toughness.

primal plume
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Free cosmetics? and they look good? Well god damn

radiant lance
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I run triple HP.

crude trout
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I run 1 wound and 2 hp

edgy kite
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Need to get some HP curios then

olive ember
molten sparrow
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Please; what is the quickest way to make yourself explode when you need to for the penance?

near wyvern
grizzled jasper
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Looks good

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Wish the metal was to the forehead

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So I can be space naruto

safe crystal
molten sparrow
safe crystal
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Yes, just keep spamming it until you blow up

olive ember
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like 41% or something

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if you have 80% it'll still take a while

molten sparrow
safe crystal
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Just keep stroking

near wyvern
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You gotta stroke it till you explode.

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Let's see if we get any bug fixes on the next patch. Like, you know... Deflector block reduction not working and Wildfire bugged AF.

supple skiff
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new psyker drip looks good

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penance is piss easy though

halcyon creek
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Fatshark’s OG penances have broken us

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The Ogryns thought they needed a multikill with one lunch box

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And then 5 of those without missing any

olive ember
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sounds about right

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Half of me expected a penance where I had to finish a damnation game only using BB

long wharf
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oh hot damn, that's sexy

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the psyker metal plate helmet

near wyvern
ornate hamlet
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Ah, why

near wyvern
ornate hamlet
olive ember
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Inb4 the take out a monstrosity with a peril explosion on Damnation or higher

olive ember
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ohh or maybe a speedrun achievement like

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zealots

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finish the game on full warp charges more than 80% of the time

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in less than 30 minutes

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or some shit

blazing oak
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Elevators be like

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Fuck your penance

void mural
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The pox burster changes sound great! Anyone know if "Reduced melee stagger resistance on Poxbursters during their lunge animations, so that melee attacks can stagger Poxbursters more reliably." Means it won't require 2 bars of stamina to push a poxbuster? Or does that mean only melee attacks?

olive ember
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idk I use force sword push

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does stamina affect FS push?

blazing oak
blazing oak
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FatShark should release a head cosmetic that is the cloth mask over the nose and mouth with no eye cosmetic

olive ember
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kekw

blazing oak
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No they should make it Path of Trust

olive ember
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oh jeez

blazing oak
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The song that plays during the level 30 cutscene

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Or at least increase the volume of the last man standing

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Most of the time I can’t hear it

olive ember
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most of the time I'm dead before it even starts playing

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cuz double mutants and a poxhound funny

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like the current last man standing music

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smh

ornate hamlet
olive ember
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makes it sound like my character wants to lay down and die

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no hype at all

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give me some hype music smh smh

ornate hamlet
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2023 and the only improvement was a back slot and separating legs and arms

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We don't even use the back slot outside of the edgy backpack from the deluxe edition

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Killing Floor 2 limited you to 3 cosmetics, but you could put most of them together and actually could use a console command to equip anything together

autumn smelt
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my main issue with the cosmetics is you cant really mix them

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they all are their own set

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and mixing literally anything makes you look mad goofy

olive ember
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just run full penance set

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call it a day

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ez pz

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flex your suffering

autumn smelt
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yall are gonna hate what i am about to say but

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hear me out

olive ember
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no

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you are going to say you don't like the penance set

autumn smelt
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yknow how the penace set has color variations via the armory?

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why not with the other cosmetics

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so you can mix them together due to the matching color scheme

olive ember
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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

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immeasurably complex

autumn smelt
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honestly the main thing you would have to do would just have the main cloth of the piece be able to be swapped out

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which they literally can do as shown with the penance set

ornate hamlet
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Fatshark hasn't developed the small indie studio technology Digital Extremes used for Warframe 12 years ago

autumn smelt
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idk im probably just too spoiled with destiny 2 shaders

ornate hamlet
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Destiny 2 shaders are dog shit

autumn smelt
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ik but what i mean is

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you can literally

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put them on

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ANYTHING

ornate hamlet
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That's the good part, yes loregryn

olive ember
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just play ffxiv

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great cosmetics

autumn smelt
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so for the ones that are good, you can mix and match armor and make a good looking set

olive ember
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lots of bikini catgirls >.>

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dime a dozen

ornate hamlet
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Imagine actually being able to dye your gear instead of being stuck to colours lmao lol

autumn smelt
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in darktide its use the set lole

autumn smelt
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each armor piece in d2 can have its own shader

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and theres like

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hold on im gonna check the exact number of shaders

ornate hamlet
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ngl the implementation of the shader system pisses me off

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They have an icon with 4 colours, but the position of these colours doesn't even correspond to where they will go in the armor

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And they prove that each armor can have individual parts dyed, but still decide to create fixed and oftentimes colour vomit patterns

autumn smelt
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yeah thats the bad part

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but the good part is just how much you can do with it

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cuz of how fucking many there are

ornate hamlet
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So I simply cannot colour my armor black and gold with blue lights

formal flume
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ā€˜Least it’s not as bad as infinite’s system

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Same shader icons as D2, but the actual main colors could be anything else/only in a certain part of the armor

autumn smelt
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wow thats a lot of options

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even more so when you can mix them as well as mixing the armor itself

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vs darktides "you have to run the full set otherwise you will look really weird"

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goofy as hell

olive ember
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You mean you don’t like the Christmas red hood smh

formal flume
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Tbf, that chest piece/lower is pretty damned hard to put a good headpiece on

ornate hamlet
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The headpieces already don't cooperate by making everyone bald

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Don't we have like a system in games that checks for collision between two models and just erases the texture at the point of collision?

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I think CSGO developed something like that for the guns because they kept sticking out of walls if people were too close

formal flume
ornate hamlet
formal flume
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Not an insult to the devs

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But a lot of them don’t really accommodate for stuff like that

ornate hamlet
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I'm actually weirded by it because they have a system that erases textures for enemy wounds

formal flume
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Mostly likely because they think, ā€œmeh. The game’s in first person anyways, and the hood’s pulled down pretty far. People aren’t going to notice all too muchā€

ornate hamlet
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When you thunder some twat in the face you can see the helmet disappear and some flakes of the texture still floating because they weren't properly erased

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Yeah, but at the same time one could think that what really matters is only the arms in a first person game

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Even the aforementioned CSGO went the route of player model changes and stuff

lucid olive
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worth it on surge?

ornate hamlet
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Oh well, maybe one day Sitgryn

lucid olive
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or are there higher priorities?

formal flume
ornate hamlet
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If you're not doing damage with surge, I'd say not

formal flume
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In a game like CSGO, models are rather important

leaden thunder
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that is one of the good blessings

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warp flurry is bis on every staff generally

lucid olive
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though I rarely use surge

olive ember
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Probably worth it but i think nexus is the more important one

lucid olive
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I need flurry most on trauma

ornate hamlet
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The stun is long enough to allow for another blessing, isn't it?

formal flume
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Ye, but pumping out surges is always nice

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Specially since the main focus is to stun instead of damage with the surge

lucid olive
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I don't have any nexus on surge but I have lv4 on another staff kerbe

wanton sandal
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holy moly

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finally we get our visor

formal flume
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I just noticed this psyker skin has a cape dogekek

fallow gale
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cant w8 for it

lucid olive
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Also, on Trauma: Focussed Channeling or Rending Shockwave

olive ember
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The hair isn’t deleted

lucid olive
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?

olive ember
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Amazing

fallow gale
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Rending Shockwave

wanton sandal
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excited for these new cosmetics fr

olive ember
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Rending shock is better for teammates

snow scaffold
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Is this a legit outfit?

fallow gale
formal flume
snow scaffold
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My problem is I'm on the Game pass where at times I can't find any games on heresy and damnation. I'm legit thinking of buying this game on Steam

wanton sandal
lucid olive
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all classes will i reckon

formal flume
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Every class is getting new penances

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So, maybe

wanton sandal
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yeah they say each class gets one

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probably on top of the shop items they'll likely add

formal flume
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Hopefully ogryn gets a proper shirt or something

wanton sandal
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(that is assuming these are penance cosmetics)

long wharf
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it's a good thing they worked on more penances for the classes, instead of addressing bad blessings on weapons

formal flume
long wharf
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more penances is sure to help retain playerbase

snow scaffold
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I think the psyker outfit looks better

formal flume
snow scaffold
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The hoodie looks so generic

wanton sandal
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but it wouldn't mesh well at all with the normal cosmetics i feel

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since it's all green

formal flume
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The visor’ll be fine tbh

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Nothing about it is explicitly green

wanton sandal
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true, just wondering how it'll look on the stuff already in-game

formal flume
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Vet’s hood will be harder to integrate tho

wanton sandal
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if it isn't aggressively colorful it'll be fine

snow scaffold
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I'm just glad they're still focusing on this game. Beforehand my go game was Back 4 Blood and the community is becoming so dead, also it started to not become fun anymore with it's bad mutations

formal flume
wanton sandal
formal flume
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Either I’m colorblind or they share a similar hue

ornate hamlet
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Darktide launched like half a year ago, of course they're still focusing on it loregryn

formal flume
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Two years tops

void mural
formal flume
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Or whenever they release the console port

wanton sandal
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blue vs green

snow scaffold
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Darktide is so good it made me buy VT2 which I still haven't played

formal flume
wanton sandal
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although that's with the shaders off, so

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kinda looks greenish in the photo

formal flume
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Hmm

snow scaffold
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Honestly the blessing issues don't bother me bc this game is so fun

formal flume
void mural
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They really could use some balancing, but really the problem ones are 75% of the ogryn's blessing

snow scaffold
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I'm already trying to beat hishock5 and really enjoy the teamwork and challenges this game brings vs all of my past coop fps games. This game is just so satisfying

olive ember
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Just play GTFO if you want challenges

potent glade
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thank you mr milk

olive ember
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Games very hardcore masochistic

olive ember
potent glade
snow scaffold
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Gtfo looks to have too much stealth for me, I played rainbow six extraction and I'm more of a constant action type of guy

potent glade
void mural
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I wouldn't say gtfo and darktide have much in common for gameplay besides requiring teamwork

olive ember
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And then you realize you are only stealth maybe 30% of the time

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Cuz shitty game design

snow scaffold
# potent glade thank you mr milk

That's a really good staff. After playing a few hishock5 I feel terrifying barrage might be a great blessing specifically for that extra challenge

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Actually exoprimal is coming out in I think July, it should be the next big horde like game

wanton sandal
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wait a sec, am i reading this right? you get 2 charges everytime you would gain one?

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that can't be real

olive ember
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They made it that way

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Because that trait was meme tier bad before

wanton sandal
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goddam

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guess im gonna run warp battery

olive ember
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Quicken is still kinda meh tbh

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Not bad but not rly that good

wanton sandal
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for surge tho?

olive ember
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Only rly useful if you plan on running melee psyker

wanton sandal
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gonna try a surge build bc i've slept on it since its inception

olive ember
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Surge I run KB

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Depends on how you play surge rly

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Someone like @feral verge runs melee 80% of the time and surge only for specials and sometimes flak shooters

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That’s where quicken is useful I guess cuz 6 second CD on ability help run up to enemies

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Otherwise just use KB

wanton sandal
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i see

void mural
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Quicken is now "decent"

snow scaffold
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I personally think surge is the best support staff for damnation

void mural
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It's actually a valid choice

wanton sandal
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oh good heavens

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too much warp for me

wanton sandal
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but gonna try out funny warp lightning

leaden thunder
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I mean surge is only support really

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so it'd be hard for it to be the best at anything else

snow scaffold
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The next pre team I'm going to try shock in hishock5, they asked me to do purge but i think shock would have been more useful

wanton sandal
#

purge is amazing until you run with two zealots that run flamer

olive ember
#

Purge is a carry loadout

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Surge is a support loadout

snow scaffold
#

Yeah but I can't hit long range enemies and I think my team is good enough to handle the non elites

olive ember
#

If you are pugging you will find more success with purge ngl

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Cuz the average pug teammate is

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Bad

snow scaffold
#

Oh this is for a pre team, purge is fun to play aggressively though in pubs

olive ember
#

Oh pre team you can run surge

near gale
olive ember
#

Sometimes my psyker spawns in without a chest

autumn smelt
#

sometimes my psyker doesnt spawn

lucid olive
#

flurry is the most needed for trauma right?

olive ember
#

Yes

drowsy slate
#

I’ve tried a lot and I think purge is the best you can bring

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Purge melts everything that’s not a crusher

snow scaffold
#

Wait we can vote kick in this game, if so how do we do that? I've had some bad toxic players in the past

olive ember
#

One of the options in the menu when you press escape

shadow wigeon
# wanton sandal for surge tho?

The problem with Quicken is that it's inconsistent to get your warp charges back, even at 2x. So you have to compare 2x charges, to "permanent" 6 charges with KB (and the benefits of fast brain burst).
I've tried to make it work, but I prefer the consistency of 6 charges.

drowsy slate
#

For long range engagement you still have BB and if shit hits the fan you have your ult and illis

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Also I don’t think you need any warpcharge chenanigans with purge. Just set everything on fire pull out illis 1 special kill 3-5 poxis and see everything melt with your 75% power buff

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I don’t think psyker has the tools yet to handle every situation like some ogryn builds but I think purg psyker is decent enough

snow scaffold
drowsy slate
#

Also block push on FS is bonkers

snow scaffold
#

Oh yeah you can knock down crushers with the push block

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If you're solo I too think purge is the best staff to have

ionic needle
willow hazel
#

Fairly sure the best staff for PUGs is autopistol

subtle linden
#

collateral and mobility are dump stats right

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LETS FUCKING GO

ionic needle
#

isn't collateral really strong?

subtle linden
#

stopping power is dmg

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collateral is just stagger

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but i find autpistol already has a fuck ton of stagger

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so it rarely matters

shadow wigeon
#

That is a pretty intense autopistola

shadow wigeon
#

@ionic needle I would use 3 if you really want to melee everything, and reroll to +flak

shadow wigeon
ionic needle
#

Yeah I know +flak is probably better, I'm thinking that I mostly use it for horde clear and a lot of those are infested

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Sword for horde clear, BB for Ogryns, for everything else there's

blazing oak
ionic needle
#

Haha yeah, one could say it... shreds

subtle linden
#

i just have to upgrade it

ionic needle
#

I think he's refering to ascendant blaze, no?

subtle linden
#

i need to find a blaze away iv

shadow wigeon
shadow wigeon
subtle linden
#

ya

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its just to do more dmg

shadow wigeon
#

Barely

ionic needle
#

I enjoy running Kinetic Barrage more, since it lets me deal with ogryns and bosses better

shadow wigeon
#

TBF you do uncork the whole mag with auto pistol sometimes, but blaze isn't applying much bonus on average.

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Just gotta try Autpistol + Ascendant at least once

echo jay
wanton sandal
autumn smelt
hexed ether
#

need to change infested for flak then its good enough

spice veldt
#

I suppose it doesn't matter much since poxwalkers get one-shot by the voidstrike anyways, but weakspot damage is not that good

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if you deal 100 bodyshot damage and then 120 damage on a weakspot hit, the +10% weakspot damage will make you deal 122 damage on a weakspot hit

plucky perch
#

speaking of void strike any one else finding themselves reliably and repeatedly doming snipers hidden behind a wall of chaff... on accident? each time i do i have a little psyker inspired cackle irl

hexed ether
#

oh then id be better if i swap weak for flak?

spice veldt
#

probably

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that's what I'd do since I don't particularly think that weakspot damage will help, and I might as well keep +infested just in case

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though weakspot will apply to every enemy even if it'll only add like 10 damage to a weakspot hit on a voidstrike secondary

olive ember
#

weakspot damage lmao

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big rip on the perks yeah

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infested and weakspot are both kinda E

hexed ether
#

ye was unhappy with bot of them but didnt know weakspot was that bad
atleast the blessing combo feels great and it rips through damnation even with suboptimal perks

cold geode
#

Rashad is getting fixed. The crab will lose their shit

steep shuttle
#

is random headpop feat good?

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There's a cooldown, isn't there?

ionic needle
#

Yes, there's a 15 second CD and it won't proc when you're >97% peril

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I think it's great paired with Shredder since it quite often pops mutans, dogs and maulers

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It's also good to regen some warp charges

spice veldt
#

for most builds, flayer is primarily for maintaining your warp charges

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usually an option between communion + warp battery or aura + flayer

ionic needle
#

It's not awesome if you're already running AB and/or Communion

ornate hamlet
#

No +8% total damage Sitgryn

steep shuttle
#

I was wondering if it could possibly trigger usefully from surge

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does it have priority for higher value mobs?

ornate hamlet
#

From my possibly unlucky usage of surge, I'm under the impression each activation rolls for a brain burst instead of each damage tick

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It also doesn't seem to have any priority, so if you cleave a mixed crowd the game can "oops" a brain burst into a poxwalker instead of the shotgunner you were trying to wreck

subtle linden
spice veldt
#

though flayer will not proc on killing blows

subtle linden
#

sustain fire to blaze away

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ye?

spice veldt
#

ye

blazing oak
ornate hamlet
#

No collateral Sitgryn

subtle linden
#

eh i find autopistol has insane stagger already anyways

blazing oak
#

I swear though I’ve seen it trigger on brain bursts

spice veldt
#

yeah it can trigger on brainbursts

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it's very nice to "one-shot" bulwarks

karmic copper
#

brunt just gave me this blue, and i decided to just do it.

potent glade
karmic copper
#

little bit of shmegma on it

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gotta melt that off a bit

potent glade
#

did u try it out in psykanium\

karmic copper
#

naw my daughter just woke up

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ive used purg for maybe 2 matches out of my 350 hr

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on psyker

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i think it time to give it ago**

blazing oak
#

I never got to try out Purgatus during the time I was trying out weapons because I was a victim of the Purgatus crash in the beta. Hundreds of hours later and I still haven’t touched it

karmic copper
#

since getting mods, every time i have a purg psyker in the group, they murder everyone ##wise

blazing oak
#

Good for them

karmic copper
#

im happy to say ive been top every game since , by just being that much more vigilant at collecting, staggering, coherency etc and not fucking around at all

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yeah we make it to the end, we all get the goods ya

blazing oak
#

I refuse to use the scoreboard because I know if I do I’ll be constantly comparing myself to my teammates in a desperate attempt to feel useful

karmic copper
#

i have 4000hr between verm 1 and 2, i know at this point i can just use it as a tool

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when i use surge for instance, it still rewards me for different things than when im just bowling ball blasting the entire match

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if you do it properly

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i go, baby time

subtle linden
#

i would roll the crit chance to maniac or unyielding

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crit in this game is so bad

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dunno y they made the numbers so shit

karmic copper
#

crit makes purg double proc its soulfire stacks

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purg is the only staff it has value on

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a crit is 2 stacks vs non crit is 1

blazing oak
karmic copper
#

all the damage is from the soulfire stacking, hence 44% damage means nothing at all

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edited

olive ember
#

no direct damage does make a decent chunk

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the problem is

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that the variance is rly small

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the difference between 0 and 100% is like 9-11 a tick

blazing oak
#

Are you saying crit is only valuable on Purgatus?

long wharf
#

but what if you do controlled bursts?

olive ember
#

crit is valueable on surge and purge and basically it

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unless you wanna go for a crit strike or crit trauma i guess

karmic copper
#

i had @still hearth telling me all the crit modifiers are garbo for all the staves, but can make surge staff stagger more or something. i cant remember. gotta go though, my daughter is starting to wake up

olive ember
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the base chance for crit is 5%

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so yeah

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except for surge staff

karmic copper
#

i will read this tomorrow at work to see what people add

spice veldt
#

at least in my testing, I didn't notice any particular stagger from crits on surge

olive ember
blazing oak
#

Crit still good on surge because damage

still hearth
#

The crit chance is good. I haven't said anything about crit damage affecting stagger though.

olive ember
#

I mean the saying goes that crit increases stagger but i never notice kekw

spice veldt
#

even the crit damage on surge is meh

olive ember
#

but eh surge is a crit staff anyways so eh

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not much else to bring

still hearth
#

Surge is meh* fify

blazing oak
#

Why does surge need more stagger when it already staggers everything?

olive ember
#

fuck you

spice veldt
#

it only has a high multiplier on unarmoured and infested because of the rending bonus

olive ember
#

surge is best staff

blazing oak
#

Like how does that work

spice veldt
#

typical derpy L

blazing oak
#

Whenever i see people say ā€œxā€ makes surge stagger more I don’t understand what they’re saying because surge staggers everything already

wide tiger
#

surge staff is psykers answer to the ogryn shield

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Oh you thought you could do no damage? Behold.

olive ember
#

.>

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all of you suck

willow hazel
# subtle linden

Reroll +Maniac to +Flak so Ascendant Blaze kills scab shooters.

olive ember
#

i miss flak burn dmg

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had a mauler walk through my half charge of purge just now

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didn't feel good kek

wide tiger
#

Yeah still makes me ??? that the flamer nerf hit psykers harder than the flamer

blazing oak
willow hazel
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But the nerf didn't really affect the AP Psyker builds much. It just messed up Purgatus and wildfire builds

wide tiger
#

it messed up the soulblaze talents which is a core build strategy in our feat tree, luckily i didnt use it much, the nerf just solidified that

olive ember
#

it missed up a bunch of off meta builds

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AP psyker I ran KB anyways

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I didn't particularly value the horde clear from AB since illisi exists

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would much prefer to quickly delete the two snipers and bomber in the back with KB

willow hazel
#

A large benefit to AB is that it clears out rooms of entrenched shooters. Which speeds up the game and saves a lot of ammo

olive ember
#

oh yeah but ngl thats what I bring the AP for XD

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but yeah a bunch of niche builds on psyker got hit hard which is feelsbad

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the wrack and ruin users got slapped lmao

wide tiger
#

so did the inner tranq cause warp unleashed > all

late yew
#

What is AB range btw

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It seems deceptively big

olive ember
#

i believe 30 or 40 m

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I think 30

wide tiger
#

same range as your psy wrath like 30m

willow hazel
#

30m and it hits through walls

late yew
olive ember
#

p much

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verticality is a big issue with AB tho

willow hazel
#

It has issues with some floors

olive ember
#

like if you are on a drop and you try to AB people above or below you good luck

late yew
#

ffs not a single psyker weapon at Milky

drowsy slate
#

Tbh i wish they would cut most of the guns for psykers and also some melee weapons

ornate hamlet
#

Give psyker warp gunx

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Z

ionic needle
#

We only need the shredder and the staffs

ornate hamlet
#

My laspistol now fires Slaanesh's used condoms

hexed ether
#

dunno just would pref higher chance of getting staves instead of guns esp at melks getting multiple days of not a single staff sucks

#

what talents do you guys usually run on voidstrike?

drowsy slate
#

Tbh it doesn’t matter imho. First row 2nd Rest is as you please

twilit flicker
#

Just buff all guns

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But only the ones psyker gets hehe

drowsy slate
#

Would love to have an option to infuse guns with warp energy maybe with quicken. Change to not reduce cooldown instead you gain brainbursts on your next x attacks where x is the number of consumed warpcharges

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Maybe a bit OP

twilit flicker
#

Kinetic - it's in the name, let us do more cool stuff than fire yeah? ... Well I guess bb and psykinetics wrath counts ...

void mural
#

IMO, either give us warp guns, or a gunker subclass that does warp gun stuff

twilit flicker
#

Give us even more evasion shenanigans and reload speed, make movement our cool thing.

void mural
#

Yeah, a warp enhancer that uses the warp to make their physical actions better

twilit flicker
#

Well it looks like our class is mostly finished, maybe in a sub class or alternate career choice. I guess we'll see.

void mural
#

That's what I meant, a sub/alt class

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Like the supposed gun lugger

blazing oak
#

I hope the ā€œprotectorate/wyrdvaneā€ class in the files has a more team protect or supportive abilities

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Though the name sounds more like we need protection

lethal folio
#

Shield dome

blazing oak
#

ā€œProtectorateā€ = the state being protected

And wyrdvanes fight in groups usually to bolster their powers because they aren’t in full control

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I’m assuming it’s gonna have some focus to coherency

drowsy slate
blazing oak
#

Or a teammate assigned bubble like warrior priest Saltzpyre

twilit flicker
#

I like that idea, more movement might not hurt though. The shield reminds me of shieldgryn

drowsy slate
#

🤷 never played vermintide

blazing oak
twilit flicker
#

Maybe the shield bubble pops when you get hit and it staggers everything around you gives you a speed boost to hehe. Just had to work that in there.

blazing oak
#

When using their ability

blazing oak
#

Actually looking at that post with all the insignia that was unreleased, there’s a psyker one with a shield on it sooo

subtle linden
#

so many choices

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so many options

muted silo
#

Illisi

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Don’t need carapace pen as Psyk anyway

spice veldt
#

though I suppose the extra stagger from rending will help

near crow
#

Is this surge salvageable?

kind jay
#

yes somewhat

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swap sprint to flak and barrage to nexus

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or flurry works too

#

nexus better

feral verge
#

All's it needs is high/decent modifier rolls

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For charge time/cost

willow hazel
#

I would swap run n gun

feral verge
#

The "best" legendary surge is only 10% better than a grey surge

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At the end of the day, you just use it for stun

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So I wouldn't worry about getting a godroll surge

#

Yours is good enough

blazing oak
feral verge
#

That's why the only good feeling/truly successful surge build I've made uses melee 80% (or more) of the time

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Only using surge for clutch stuns of special/elite groups, or sometimes shooters behind cover

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If a damnation psyker is using surge way more than melee, like on hordes and shit they're going about it all wrong

prisma perch
#

I love the feats combined with illisi on surge staff build

feral verge
prisma perch
#

It’s so much fun and breath of fresh air compared to purgatus build

feral verge
prisma perch
#

Very nice!

feral verge
#

(notice how I didn't include my surge staff because the staff doesn't matter lol)

#

(only thing that matters to me is charge time and warp resistance)

#

Mine has all 70s anyway

prisma perch
#

Lol, yeah I’ve been just rolling illisi trying to get that perfect one!

spice veldt
prisma perch
#

I have nexus and flurry on my surge and stuff is in 70s! Yeah the staff itself is pretty unimportant which is hilarious

feral verge
#

This is highly problematic and deeply offensive

spice veldt
#

foolish fool revealing your weakness

feral verge
#

(I still don't have slaughterer 4)

fringe garden
#

Skill issue

feral verge
#

And I'm finally cleared to work as an armored car driver now

digital loom
#

time to test this meme out and see if its worth approaching on an actually good trauma staff

feral verge
#

So I don't have time to farm for slaughterer now

autumn smelt
#

just lost a mat run on low damnation w/ scripts because the zealot intentionally fought the DH

digital loom
feral verge
#

So I can only.hope for melk

prisma perch
#

Surge gets me through those hi int shock trooper missions though

feral verge
#

I haven't been able to log on

#

Is shocktroop back on rotation?

autumn smelt
#

ive seen it today

prisma perch
#

Has been last few days

autumn smelt
#

lemme check the map

feral verge
#

I've been seeing it

prisma perch
#

Haven’t seen sniper though

feral verge
#

Atleast uhh 2 days ago

autumn smelt
#

not on the map atm, but ive run a few earlier today

feral verge
#

But it was on hound I think

autumn smelt
#

it is on hound

feral verge
#

Damn still?

autumn smelt
#

but shock still shows up now and again

feral verge
#

Feels like it's been on hound forever

autumn smelt
#

yeah

prisma perch
# digital loom

Hope trauma works out well! I haven’t used one either but am interested in results.

autumn smelt
#

i started playing in early january and started back up late march

#

both times it was hound

feral verge
#

I stopped playing in December, picked it up again in February

#

Been playing it like mad these past few months, waiting for my job's paperwork to go thru

shrewd nest
feral verge
#

Run and gun atleast gives you a feature (it's not useful, but it's a feature)

shrewd nest
#

faaair

kind jay
#

staff lmb already suppresses anyways

feral verge
#

Barrage is unless because the staves already stun and suppress

#

So functionally, barrage adds nothing new

#

You might as well have no blessing there

#

It makes your orange staff into a purple staff

#

P much

autumn smelt
#

and everyone knows thats what the surge staff does best

#

getting kills

feral verge
#

Yeah, and only around you

prisma perch
#

lol

feral verge
#

That was all my surge staff I swear

prisma perch
#

Barrage getting absolutely roasted

autumn smelt
#

the only time i can see barrage being useful is if you go into heresy or lower with a trauma staff and just walk into enemies exploding the staff at your feet

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ive seen a guy do that once

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and he did it to great effect actually

prisma perch
#

I’ve really only used it on my brauto on vet with hit & run

autumn smelt
#

he soloed basically every enemy and engagement with the W key

prisma perch
#

They should add in the tooltip that the suppression per kill rises per rank too.

prisma perch
#

Focused channelling is pretty nice on purgatus

cyan notch
#

yes

prisma perch
#

Have there been any staff blessings datamined that might be added?

#

On one hand it’s nice having a small blessing pool for surge and purg but there’s really only 2 blessings that you really want out of 5.

#

Every melee weapon wants slaughterer though tbf but the pool is more bloated with shit so idk

blazing oak
#

Or surge/stab them if they are close enough

#

But FatShark if you are listening so buff surge # of targets

prisma perch
#

Makes me wonder how many volts are getting pumped into anything that gets zapped.

#

Nurgle made his flock grounded or part rubber.

twilit flicker
#

ahh yes, a team full of psykers with no disconnects, two voidstrikes and a purge, oh and the great columnus mk5 infantry autogun

#

bullets do travel faster then sword swings, puffs of fire, and whatever the voidstrike shoots

cyan notch
#

relay station peaceout

twilit flicker
#

feels good, but also im too dumb to use a staff ... but at least ive got some semblance of skill

blazing oak
#

Technically if you can manage peril you can use Purgatus because in my opinion that is the lowest skill floor staff

twilit flicker
#

this past week or so ive only used guns, before it was usually autopistol or purge

blazing oak
#

Seriously wtf is ā€œenemies staggeredā€ actually counting because I doubt you actually all fought 3.5k enemies

cyan notch
#

probably staggering same enemy multiple times

twilit flicker
#

it was low intensity damnation with dogs

#

and yet we found so very little plasteel

leaden thunder
#

cuase it's relay station

safe crystal
#

The desert maps are bugged, they have pre-buff plasteel in the map

leaden thunder
#

map is still bugged

twilit flicker
#

ohhh

leaden thunder
#

I think it may just be relay station that is bugged

twilit flicker
#

that makes sense, thanks for the info

leaden thunder
#

the other desert maps seem to be fine

prisma perch
#

I never play the comms array desert one

#

I’d get more plasteel blowing an ogryn

leaden thunder
#

that's relay station I believe

autumn smelt
#

i just loaded into a mission that had literally already ended

prisma perch
#

It’s gotta be

autumn smelt
#

or relay station

#

i just read what you said now nvm

#

im stupid

prisma perch
#

Np

#

I’d love to load into a mission just ending and get free loot

#

I always load into one just starting or one gone to hell

autumn smelt
prisma perch
#

lol, oh godd

digital loom
# digital loom

@prisma perch on a scale of one star to five stars, I rate this staff a happy 4th of july

blazing oak
#

Had a game where when I reloaded back into it I was clipped inside the dropship floor

#

Has FatShark changed it so perils of the warp can kill you if you are at deaths door with corruption?

blazing oak
#

Instead of just downing

cyan notch
#

huh

#

what are you asking

blazing oak
#

If you have all your wounds corrupted and you peril explode, do you die instead of being downed

#

I remember in the beta you didn’t die

forest coral
#

yep you insta die

prisma perch
#

The warp will take you

cyan notch
#

yea youve always died

forest coral
#

Its the only right way to do "going out with a bang"

fringe garden
#

I like the look of that penance gear coming up

visual cape
#

what do purgatus crits actually do? I can understand the void staff having surge for crits
but its just burn/soulfire for purgatus

blazing oak
# cyan notch yea youve always died

Not in the beta. When I was stuck in the dropship I exploded myself multiple times at final wound to try to kill my self and it didn’t work

cyan notch
#

yea i dont mean beta

fringe garden
#

LMB crits give two stacks I believe

prisma perch
#

Purgatus crits double the dot stacks

cyan notch
#

beta was like 29 months ago

blazing oak
#

I did discover one thing

fringe garden
#

Do I recall correctly that charged purg crits don't give X2?

cyan notch
#

they do

blazing oak
#

For some reason I was allowed to climb the landing gear while I was in the middle of peril exploding

#

Climb By walking

prisma perch
#

You’ve done some interesting things

blazing oak
# prisma perch You’ve done some interesting things

It was my only course of action that didn’t involve leaving the match to escape the dropship floor prison since exploding wasn’t killing me. It was my first completed heresy game I believe so I didn’t want to throw that away

prisma perch
valid marsh
#

can shredder autopistol just not roll 25% maniac damage or something

#

been rolling for a while

#

hmmgryn I just want 200% maniac damage is that so much to ask

cyan notch
#

use the reroll mod

digital loom
#

happens in this game too

valid marsh
#

well, this should do for now

#

finally got t4 pinning fire

cyan notch
gilded magnet
#

hol up, what blessings would you stick on an antax axe?

onyx frigate
#

brutal momentum is a must

#

then something like headtaker or the other one that increases power

#

decimator

gilded magnet
#

this one worth a buy then eh?

#

then reroll decap into bm?

onyx frigate
#

yeah, if you want an antax this is a good one

#

just put brutal momentum on it and it's very good

#

and reroll the infested for like flak or something

gilded magnet
#

owait i just realised ive already got an antax axe that's somewhat better

#

jesus im glad i checked before i bought

#

almost forgot coz i stuck a skin on it then left it in my storage -.-

onyx frigate
#

lol

#

yeah that one's better

#

replace all or nothing and you're good to go

gilded magnet
#

hmm, while i got you, is the brittleness blessing on trauma staff any good?

#

first time ive seen melk offer a staff with it

long osprey
#

Yeah

onyx frigate
#

sorry, I don't know, I haven't tested it, but it looks good

long osprey
#

If it’s tier III+

gilded magnet
#

ay its t3

long osprey
#

you could put charge speed on second blessing

onyx frigate
#

looks good

long osprey
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Instead of transfer peril

onyx frigate
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but yes replace transfer peril since I'm not even sure if you can reliably hit weak spots with that

gilded magnet
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yeah idk how you'd even hit weak spots with the right click lmao

spice veldt
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if you proc kinetic flayer with it

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300iq quell 4% every 15 seconds

gilded magnet
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hmm, does blazing spirit on the trauma staff work well as well?

spice veldt
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yup

onyx frigate
gilded magnet
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i havent really used trauma staff's much so theres a couple blessings i havent played with yet

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ive got this one ive been sitting on for a few months now, might switch between the 2 trauma staff's depending on the role i want to play?

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ahh crap i literally have 0 trauma staff blessings, might break some down and reroll before i use em lmao

onyx frigate
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just got warp flurry r4 from the melk man

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behold, my beloved

gilded magnet
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gawd damn

onyx frigate
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some people would add blazing spirit on it or whatever else but I find it kills hordes extremely fast as is

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anything more would feel like overkill

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while I'm at it, I'll also show off this bad boy I got earlier today

marsh kayak
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hey guys whats the best blessings yall think for purg staff?? i have warp nexus and flurry

onyx frigate
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I think most people would consider those among the best

marsh kayak
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cuz i saw barrage and thought that might be busted on the purg

onyx frigate
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why?

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you already suppress enemies when you set them on fire

marsh kayak
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oh deadass is it the same??

onyx frigate
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I see it as a waste of a blessing slot

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in practice yeah? I think?

marsh kayak
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i was confused on that

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thx for letting me kno

onyx frigate
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you'd be better off with the higher crit chance from warp nexus, since that lets you apply even more burning

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hence more suppression, I would assume

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and damage, obviously

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death is the best form of crowd control after all

marsh kayak
autumn smelt
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blessings go so hard

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but stats and perks

cold geode
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yea

digital loom
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blaze trauma gaming

marsh kayak
digital loom
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description is in the rows

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left sidee

cyan notch
vagrant frigate
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hadron if you mess this up...

cyan notch
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dont do it

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it cant be bricked if u never upgrade it

vagrant frigate
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i got itto purple

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shred 2

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gold blessing pls save me

cyan notch
onyx frigate
primal plume
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does this matter at all?

digital loom
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i dont think so

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base rating is important

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end rating has no purpose as far as i can see

onyx frigate
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matter in what sense?

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if it does anything on its own, no

digital loom
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the higher number on the base weapon the more stats it has

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the modifiers rating

onyx frigate
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I guess the one use it has is if you get an emperor's gift, you can surmise how good it may be, but it's not a good indicator even then

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you have to look at all the things on the weapon separately to see how good it is, rating doesn't really tell you that

blazing oak
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Rating will tell you an estimate on the tier quality of perks and blessings it has

onyx frigate
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yeah, but with how there's some utterly worthless blessings in the game, it may be misleading

primal plume
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fucking ruined

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thanks hadron, very cool

onyx frigate
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ain't ruined yet

primal plume
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its in shambles

onyx frigate
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weeeelll

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just slap a warp flurry on it and call it a day

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it's still gonna be good

blazing oak
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Not which blessings

onyx frigate
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yeah, but a bad rank 4 blessing might as well be 0 instead of 60 points

blazing oak
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That’s not the rating’s problem

onyx frigate
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I guess

vagrant frigate
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@cyan notch AINT NO WAY

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PROCOG 4 😭

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i wouldve taken deflector 1

vagrant frigate
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it was the perfect base stats PepeDying

cyan notch
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id keep it

vagrant frigate
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ima see if it can kill a mutant

cyan notch
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fatshonk been talking about blessing locks

vagrant frigate
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with 25% maniac

cyan notch
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only a matter of time before they change it

onyx frigate
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I read that they didn't say anything about it when asked today

cyan notch
onyx frigate
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nice

cyan notch
north cradle
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At last, we get the metal blindfold

blazing oak
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But with extra cloth mask!

north cradle
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I wager there are three levels of blindfold

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Blindfold, blindfold + mask, blindfold + mask + goggles lmfao

blazing oak
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That would mean 5 penances for psyker added

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3 for blindfold 2 for the pants and shirt

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Give my psyker a trench coat or similar

north cradle
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I'd totally cosplay as Neil Patrick Harris in Starship Troopers

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Trenchcoat can be on my Gun Psyker loadout

cyan notch
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still a month away tho