consolation is i got deflector
#psyker-class
chrome arch
can you do Pick n' Mix on Hunting grounds' doggos?
karmic copper
@primal fjord its like going on a date with taylor swift just to get info on her next album. Oof
Damn me
@inland sand can you dm me whatever info you sent those other lads? Concrete info is always good stuff.
I feel like ive been playing trauma wrong. I think im going to go uninterupt and swap to tough on kill to try it out. I always resort to melee out. I also miss peril resist lvl 15 talent with trauma and im always trying to justify it. If im using trauma as primary, lets go. Youre saying with unarmoured and flak, you hit good breakpoints on general horde and shooters? Was i reading that correct? So unarmoured/flak and flurry/channeled? And be midline almost, with uninterupted and return on kill?
cloud sequoia
another channel + warp trauma enjoyer
karmic copper
Im going to give it a go tonight. Ive had a flurry+shock that ive been using exclusively for 2 months for trauma. I just put channel onto my surge staff when shock modifier came out and i really appreciated having it.
inland sand
<@173829094557876225> can you dm me whatever info you sent those other lads? Con...
sure thing, it's a youtube vid
ruby plover
quietude bonkers fr
karmic copper
Problem i have is that if im not using illi now, even with trauma, i find myself reaching for toughness when im in a situation i cant get my staff out, and then a special charge locks me in or out of 1 on 1. My only good deimos is like 80% warp also so i gain no toughness from an activation. If im using channeled on trauma than i can alter how i play around being able to reliably exchange hits, or safely get the charge off if the server fucks me
drowsy slate
Ehm I am seem way more ellisi
It’s easier to get out of sticky situations with it 🤷
scarlet timber
I guss but I dont see alot of trauma staves either and those two go well togehter it seems
dusky grail
i like the pokes on the deimos too much to not use it
scarlet timber
And old obscurus is only visible in history books
And by that I mean no one uses it
shrewd nest
I'd think deimos works better for trauma, trauma deals with hordes just fine, but either stragglers or forcing a straggler with the knockback of trauma? Yeah, deimos fucks stragglers
I like illisi with surge most for certain
fresh steeple
I'd think deimos works better for trauma, trauma deals with hordes just fine, bu...
^
shrewd nest
Infact surge/illisi is my favorite "melee build" right now for damn suree
river sand
Ehm I am seem way more ellisi
for deimos you need to have a minimum of aim to be effective, for illisi not. thats why
shrewd nest
Having a heavy sword with a power sword activatable that works as a toughness vampire swing while also being able to lightning stun anything big? Fucking awesome
fresh steeple
in a vacuum I think Illisi has the stronger generalist moveset, but for Trauma the horde clear from staff is fantastic in its own right, and having the follow-up of big single target attacks on the few mobs that a full charge Trauma doesn't kill is better than having non-ragdoll horde clear
river sand
trauma, void, purg -> deimos | surge, guns -> illisi
shrewd nest
Also deimos is a lot worse without good rolls too, if you don't meet mutant breakpoint and understand the glory of h2, it's not gonna be the workhorse that illisi is
cloud sequoia
light cancel
shrewd nest
Yeah, on paper illisi is kinda cracked, but with so many horde clear staves, deimos works really well with them
fresh steeple
I am so perpetually saddened by Psykers on my teams who spam Surge on hordes
it drives me crazy
I'll outright call at them in voice chat to use melee on hordes instead because they're doing no damage and wasting time
shrewd nest
I have a friend who mained psyker since the beta..and he only uses surge, and I mean, like, JUST surge
He's still carrying around a dueling sword because he "doesn't use" his melee weapon
shrewd nest
This is a man who plays only damnation and swears by only hp curios and no wounds on psyker
Then always goes down anyway
fresh steeple
could you tell me his name so I can block him preemptively?
shrewd nest
You'd think he'd go try swords more seeing me clear hordes like butter with my slaughterer/shred illisi and telling him of it's graces and how surge sucks on crowds, but nope
fresh steeple
HP curios on Psyker is fine I guess. But being downed is not.
shrewd nest
Being against wounds when he would make use of them every single game tho
fresh steeple
yup
cyan notch
so…literally just surge?
fresh steeple
so, like, why do you like this person enough to carry them every game you play and allow them to sabotage you with their obstinance?
shrewd nest
Then complains about darktide not having a variable weapon/build meta 
Psyker has the most viable variety out of everything
fresh steeple
you're like, describing a melee-only veteran who exclusively uses chain axe, or a zealot who fights exclusively at range with revolver
shrewd nest
Every staff and even guns like shredder, blaze builds, quicken no brainburst with traumas n shit, at least 2 great swords on top of several other still good, but just less good wmelees
fresh steeple
again, why are you even playing with this person?
shrewd nest
Someone here said that the "noob psyker look" was surge staff and dueling sword, doesn't use sword much, specifically has the male seer voice" and I'm just laughing cause he's every box there checked
Him and his friend (which is better, ogryn main) always go damnation, and we can win it, I for sure lose it more than solo and then they blame losses more on the 4th being bad..sometimes for doing actually meta things like bringing bolters
wet jacinth
fresh steeple
why. are. you. playing. with. this. person?
shrewd nest
Walk out into the open with several bulwarks up then complain that that trauma and surge psykers aren't killing the sniper though cause we're the "single target class" though...
rain saddle
I cant get my 10% brainbursts on hit because I am 1 shotting everything with ilisi 😢
fresh steeple
Play with Karma
they clearly have a bad taste in teammates, so I think that might be an insult if they ask to play with me 😛
but maybe I deserve it, who knows
wet jacinth
Some also just refuse to accept the problem may actually be themselves
shrewd nest
Just friends of mine, would deffinitely rather play with more damnation understanding people
fresh steeple
Just friends of mine, would deffinitely rather play with more damnation understa...
then do, and stop playing with them
and when they ask why, you tell them that they refuse to improve their gameplay or accept any blame for their own shortcomings, and you'll be happy to play with them more when they stop being obstinate
wet jacinth
they clearly have a bad taste in teammates, so I think that might be an insult i...
Ain't named bad karma for no reason eh
fresh steeple
tru
wet jacinth
shrewd nest
They don't play much darktide now anyhow, more DRG, which they're better at and a little less salty at
All the good damnation players are the ones who meme with it
fresh steeple
All the good damnation players are the ones who meme with it
surprise, your friend is actually a 4D supreme memelord, and it actually is the fourth person's fault for not getting on their level
shrewd nest
true bud
unique burrow
6-stack ult and it doesn't even stagger a regular mob
cyan notch
cant view that file
near wyvern
6-stack ult and it doesn't even stagger a regular mob
Yeah sometimes the 6 stack ult just decides it won't go off. Easier to notice with AB since you ult but no flames.
It will eat the stacks and put ult on CD tho
cyan notch
happens a lot to me while im getting shot while casting
ornate hamlet
tfw warp use isn't sanctioned
north cradle
I have a friend who mained psyker since the beta..and he only uses surge, and I ...
Based
near wyvern
Surge :/
worthy moon
Hey, I am new to Psyker and Darktide in general. Is the Surge Force Staff any good for leveling up when I hit level 8?
and is there anything I should be doing while I level? Someone said to buy all of the grey items for the weapons that I like so I can fish for blessings later on in the game?
void mural
Grab an illisi sword, grab whichever staff you like the mechanics of. Play difficulty 2 missions till you have decent rated gear and a good amount of levels. Low level psyker is pretty meh.
I personally recommend voidstrike because of its jack of all trades nature
worthy moon
Ok, I will wait until I hit level 11 to try that staff out also
I really like the look of the flame one but it seems to be bad until level 309
30*
north cradle
Cloud Radius and Burn, just focus on those two
void mural
Surge staff is a good "stopper" staff and does good vs flak. Don't try to horde clear with it, use your sword
It will stun most things with right click
worthy moon
I just want to know if I should be fishing for blessings and perks yet
safe crystal
Purg works no matter what you roll on it on malice and lower difficulty. Its the higher difficulties where you'd like it to have high rolls on its favoured rolls
void mural
Eh, I personally didn't fish for blessings till leveled up, besides brutal momentum on combat axe
Perks don't really matter except for difficulty 4+, when breakpoints start being hard to hit
worthy moon
ATM I am using force sword, should I change that?
Ok, I will save and wait until later
void mural
Obscuris?
Illisi and deimos are pretty much better than obscuris in every way
Illisi is horde clear and generalist, and does fine vs specials, especially when hitting weakpoints
Deimos is the special deletion FS, and it's generally decent vs everything, just not as overwhelmingly powerful vs hordes as illisi
uneven bane
Personally I’d say Obscuris is the middle ground of em. Has the charged hit for heavy enemies but also the wider swings for faster clear. Personally using Deimos now with Purgatus for the horde clear
void mural
Obscuris was left in the dust the moment the other 2 were released. It does nothing better than either of the others, and does everything worse
worthy moon
obscuris
void mural
Yeah, get yourself an illisi, and you'll love it
worthy moon
illisi force sword?
void mural
Yes
Try deimos too if you feel like it. It's good too
But I think it depends more on its stat rolls than illisi
worthy moon
Do I just unlock those or need to buy from the shop?
Thanks a lot for all of the advice, sorry if they are noob questions
ornate hamlet
I think illisi might be level 17 or something close to it, it's at the bottom of my melee list at Brunt's
void mural
It says level 2 on gameslantern
void mural
I think for once those feats are as they say in the description?
scarlet timber
I mean like
I dont know which one to go for
Kinetic barsge seems cool but
I dont know what situation it's good for
void mural
Gotta BB all the things? KB
Want access to your f all the time and fast warp charge build up? Quicken
Using purge staff, or soulblaze meme builds? Ascending blaze
obtuse moth
barrage is the best all around level 30
its a huge Qol for brain burst, makes it much faster than it says and you can get off 5+ brain bursts without needing to quell. if you also having the refund on elite kill you can constantly chain rapid fire brainbursts till all the elites are dead
Ascendant blaze is amazing with 6 stacks for deleting an entire room of horde and shooters
nimble burrow
whichever one keeps you alive and killing things
obtuse moth
what difficulty tier?
leaden thunder
most powerful raw damage is probably shredder auto pistol
but that's just for damage
drowsy slate
Always damnation
obtuse moth
if you want braindead just take purge staff with illisi or deimos. or gunpsyker with illisi/deimos
surge + illisi if you have problems with specials
drowsy slate
I like illis very much. I don’t know which staff to use I feel every staff is lackluster somehow 😂
Flamestaff is to short ranged, voidstrike feels awkward because you can’t shoot trough some doors because the ball seems to be as big as a ogryn for Hitbox
Surge does zero damage somehow
Didn’t try trauma yet
And tbh if I want to carry a gun I would play another class
faint vault
Why? Psykers are the best gunners.
summer prairie
For hi shock barrage aura builds are best, purg probably the best staff for it
leaden thunder
i've heard that surge is actually really good for hi shock
faint vault
Thoughts on knife blessings?
faint vault
Eh, as a mobility tool, it's great.
leaden thunder
then use the demios
obtuse moth
Surge does zero damage somehow
surge does a lot of damage to armored targets and maniacs, just not regular mobs. it can also cc every enemy in the game besides bosses
faint vault
Knife has way longer dodges and more speed.
obtuse moth
Flamestaff is to short ranged, voidstrike feels awkward because you can’t shoot ...
flame has a lot more range than you think, and you can use ascendant blaze ult to reach things you cant with a sprint slide left click
leaden thunder
it really doesn't ahve longer dodges
faint vault
It does.
leaden thunder
considering the demios has infinite
faint vault
I mean the range of the single dodge.
summer prairie
Bleed+mercy killer or whatever the armor pierce one is called
faint vault
Quick swapping for fresh dodges is not a problem.
obtuse moth
Flamestaff is to short ranged, voidstrike feels awkward because you can’t shoot ...
the trick with voidstrike is to shoot through the smack center of the door with charged shots, dont worry about aiming it perfectly just get it out the door since as you say the hitbox is ginormous
leaden thunder
since the demios was added there is 0 reason to use the knife or dueling swords imo
summer prairie
Knife is still good, the only melee even worth considering besides Deimos+illisi
leaden thunder
axe
obtuse moth
yea axe with bromentum
summer prairie
It's safer DPS with great mobility
faint vault
Agreed, Syllo. It's still very strong.
Anyways, back to my original question. Blessings for it? What do you recommend?
obtuse moth
uncanny strike ftw
faint vault
Agreed
twilit flicker
Laceration with Mercy kill for single target dps
obtuse moth
it even adds like 30% damage to poxwalkers
faint vault
Nice.
obtuse moth
a t4 uncanny treats everything as unarmored
faint vault
❤️
summer prairie
Best psyker boss DPS unless you hit weakspot every time with Deimos Vs boss
Then it's even
twilit flicker
I think the dueling sword mk5 has great dodge distance too right? It has the same mobility as a knife with twice the stamina cost for running.
worthy moon
got myself one 🙂 @void mural
faint vault
You don't get the extra boost of speed while h1-ing, do you?
obtuse moth
Best psyker boss DPS unless you hit weakspot every time with Deimos Vs boss
i doubt its better than a high finesse combat axe with headtaker decimator
summer prairie
It's around 1400 dps
twilit flicker
You can spam the knifes push attack at light speed, only problem is getting good enough to use it
faint vault
Yeah, it's sick - played a lot with the Antax, so it comes naturally.
late yew
what perks do i want?
faint vault
You get rid of run and get quell on weakspot hit instead, then get +flak instead of carapace.
void mural
got myself one 🙂 <@237066801526210560>
Enjoy! I've heard that deimos depends on its stats to deal with higher difficulties and breakpoints, so make sure to get a better one if you go up in difficulties
faint vault
Keep rolling grey ones
faint vault
😦
It'll serve you till you get a better tier.
I've been finding t3 blessings at the store lately... Maybe you'll get lucky!
void mural
IMO, high base stat greys are better than low base stat higher rarity weapons, unless your specific weapon type/build requires a blessing to function (like axes and brutal momentum)@worthy moon
faint vault
Also depends on the stat distribution. Like for the deimos, you don't need warp resistance at all.
obtuse moth
Enjoy! I've heard that deimos depends on its stats to deal with higher difficult...
mostly if you're trying to one-shot mutants in damnation 🤣
void mural
Yup, hence the higher difficulty part
faint vault
Should I delete my ogryn, make third psyker, dress it like this and name it Servitor? Yay or nay?
grizzled jasper
best bois
late yew
Should I delete my ogryn, make third psyker, dress it like this and name it Serv...
Why make alts of same class, i don't get it
tall temple
Why make alts of same class, i don't get it
more melk rolls
low onyx
For new voices more chances in melks and for fun
steep shuttle
what are blessings that you want on a surge staff?
olive ember
nexus and flurry
faint vault
Why make alts of same class, i don't get it
Playing as a lvl 4 with slaughterer 4 is really fun
blazing oak
Gambling bad
nimble burrow
can you rend bosses
i think you can rend monstrocities but what about the assassination bosses, what are they even classified as
faint vault
does essence harvest stack
Doesn't stack.
long wharf
I've abandoned my beloved combat axe for an illisi with slaughterer and unstable power
it's just too good
karmic copper
@steep shuttle i was told crit increases the stagger for surge... but ive appreciated flurry and channeled so no interupts. Though id guess then that nexus and channeled would net the crit AND the uninterupt
blazing oak
What part are you increasing of the stagger anyways?
The length of the stun? Because surge already stuns everything except bosses (bugs excluded)
karmic copper
Ive read it multpile times in the last few days on here
But no idea the depth of the claim
steep shuttle
There should be some better surge-specific blessings
like additional chain or something
persistent shock
blazing oak
Give me “stunned enemies take more damage from teammates”
steep shuttle
They gonna release a surge staff that just fires lightning in a big line
a big burst
blazing oak
Make that the lmb
If surge got it’s own lmb I’d make it either a lightning bolt that doesn’t stun but bounces to multiple targets, or a single target continual zapping
void mural
They really failed at making a lot of the weapons unique, like staves
They need to make a lot more unique blessing for lots of weapons that work with that specific weapon types mechanics
Having left click be the same for every staff is just lame
nimble burrow
Give me “stunned enemies take more damage from teammates”
then go trauma with brittleness blessing
ranged ogryn
olive ember
https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-tired-exhausted-eyes-no-sleep-gif-17653913
I mean
they are literally built to make money
blazing oak
Wait actual casino or the weapon shop?
olive ember
actual casinos
tho at this point is the only difference is whether you are spending real money kekw
blazing oak
Oh yeah the bets are literally designed to make you lose a certain amount of money per bet on average
shadow wigeon
<@120268278214950914> i was told crit increases the stagger for surge... but ive...
You could check the stagger values for crits - never thought too, maybe they’re higher. Not worth a whole lot unless someone has a stagger damage build on your team.
olive ember
oh yeah i mean its basically like a casino except you substitute money with time
blazing oak
I still haven’t upgraded all my curios because I just can’t be bothered
olive ember
I beat a hi 5 shock a bit ago and yeah
think thats enough panick for one day
back to the true man's game mode
summer prairie
hab dreyko hi shock is barely different anyway, it's like 20% of the special spawns you get on other maps
tepid umbra
Decent sword or?
river sand
no really
spice veldt
it's decent
river sand
low first target roll = not good
wheat wren
void staff still solid? Been away from the game for a hot minute. I heard psyker was somewhat fixed.
twilit flicker
Decent sword or?
I call I decent, it could be better sure but it workable
spice veldt
staffs have been mostly unchanged except for trauma getting it's peril generation reduced, some blessing fixes, and Soulblaze having reduced flak damage
river sand
void still great. struggles a bit with the higher bullwark/crusher count nowadays
tepid umbra
I call I decent, it could be better sure but it workable
Just hit lvl 30 and wanted to make a sword with the small amount of dockets I had, so I guess I'll try again later
river sand
Just hit lvl 30 and wanted to make a sword with the small amount of dockets I ha...
for that its good
change blazing spirit to slaughterer as soon as you get one
tepid umbra
Btw what blessings do you want when using the purgatus staff?
river sand
Btw what blessings do you want when using the purgatus staff?
on purg its nexus/flurry
unreal dust
Btw what blessings do you want when using the purgatus staff?
Nexus is mandatory imho. The other is flexible.
I'm tempted to swap to Channeling sometimes for the second one
twilit flicker
Probably warp nexus for extra crit, war flurry for more spam, or terrifying barrage for redundancy.
river sand
channeling the only option besides flurry. nexus is must have
but lets be honest trauma is the strongest staff atm
unreal dust
Terrifying Barrage is better for stopping Ragers during a horde rush, surprisingly
olive ember
but lets be honest trauma is the strongest staff atm
you lie
feral topaz
Oh yer busy soz
twilit flicker
Great coherency and special killed, the heart of the team!
blazing oak
That scoreboard mod needs to fix the staggered enemy stat to make it more clear
What is coherency efficiency measuring exactly?
obtuse moth
how much and how often you're in coherency?
the buff that shares your unique talent aura and gives toughness regeneration
ogryns also have a feat that can give them 50% more personal range
blazing oak
Okay but what does 105 mean
Is it up to 300 by staying in full team coherency the entire game?
flat shadow
Decent sword or?
this is the one that swings wide right or is it the stab heavy one
i like the broadsword looking one
obtuse moth
idk, its copied over from vermintide's plugin which might have more documentation
blazing oak
This is the one that stabs
flat shadow
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2065505128359496856/BE31B85B2AFDD86DA...
theres a scoreboard??
bruh
tepid umbra
this is the one that swings wide right or is it the stab heavy one
The Mk5 is the broad swing
feral topaz
I use a mod
tepid umbra
theres a scoreboard??
Nexus mods, scoreboard mod
river sand
thats a few weeks old with trauma
feral topaz
But tbh, I'm fairly sure the coherency thing is high so long as you stick around teammates a lot
I was with them most of the time except for when one of them charged a crusher patrol which then went exclusively after me
Between that and that apparently none of them had any weapons dealing with armor...
thats how it ended up being that way
They were nice lads though
Good fun
north cradle
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2065505128359496856/BE31B85B2AFDD86DA...
I tend to dominate as Veteran or Psyker, it's great
near crow
Well, that's a pain in the ass. Psyker's staffs don't share blessings.
spice veldt
yeah, none of our current staffs belong to the same family
sucks ass and we only have 4 staffs
unreal dust
Purg needs more blessing options :<
near crow
I just need more high lvl purg blessings
All of my decent blessings are on my voidstrike
unreal dust
Also... I've been running Warp Flurry on Purg for a couple weeks now. Going to go back to Barrage and see how I feel for a bit
Just in time for a hi-shock mission. Awwww yeh
near crow
I wish I had blazing spirit on my purg instead of it being locked on my void
unreal dust
I wish I had blazing spirit on my purg instead of it being locked on my void
So you can flame while you flame? It'd be interesting. But its not an option :<
leaden thunder
surge needs blazing spirit
near crow
So you can flame while you flame? It'd be interesting. But its not an option :<
I am Flame Man, 40,000 toasted heretics
unreal dust
I am Flame Man, 40,000 toasted heretics
My Sibling ❤️
unreal dust
I am Flame Man, 40,000 toasted heretics
Also Wildfire has really grown on me
near crow
Wildfire is pretty solid
I've been switching between Warp Battery and Kinetic Barrage with my voidstrike build, but Wildfire is just too good for hordeclear on the purg staff
river sand
a surge staff with blazing spirit would be funny
blazing oak
Does kinetic flayer prefer enemies that it will kill
When it triggers on surge it almost always, if not always, kills
spice veldt
that just seems like a coincidence by the sheer fact that enemies that get one-shot by BB are the most common
flayer will proc as long as the initial attack is not a killing blow
wet jacinth
flayer will proc as long as the initial attack is not a killing blow
charges force sword and does Heavy2
I'm sorry Little poxwalker
spice veldt
practically impossible for flayer to proc on lower difficulties
ruby plover
plinking crushers with shredders to flayer them is my favorite thing
unreal dust
plinking crushers with shredders to flayer them is my favorite thing
Unless its on CD. Then you just look like an idiot
empty mesa
Is a brain burst centric build any good on phycher?
Seems to have a lot of feats to support it
Mines only lvl10 so idk how they play out tho
unreal dust
Is a brain burst centric build any good on phycher?
If you're not running Purg or Surge, then sure.
void mural
Pair it with warp charge peril, 6 warp charges, and kinetic barrage
BB all the things
Also makes it so you can use staves a lot more before max peril
spice veldt
the BB feats (wrack & ruin, cerebral lacerations) are a bit meh, though our melee weapons are good enough without any feats I suppose
worthy moon
What feats should I run at level 13 with voidstrike staff and demios force sword?
empty mesa
Also makes it so you can use staves a lot more before max peril
Staves?
void mural
the BB feats (wrack & ruin, cerebral lacerations) are a bit meh, though our mele...
CL is good for hitting high breakpoints for 2 shotting ogryns, but other than that, meh.
W&R? Don't make me laugh
worthy moon
and what should I take at level 15 with that set up
spice veldt
for lvl15, I'd recommend communion (top) so that you no longer need to brain burst for warp charges
shadow wigeon
for lvl15, I'd recommend communion (top) so that you no longer need to brain bur...
Caveat is that communion is a lot better at higher difficulty (with more kills)
spice veldt
true
though it procs off teammate kills as well, and they really only need it to maintain charges
void mural
I've always been meh about communion ever since we got the warp charge fall off reduced to 1 stack at a time
spice veldt
as long as they or their allies in coherency kill an average of 25 enemies every 30 seconds, it should be fine
empty mesa
The 4 ranged force weapons?
Oh yeah lol
shadow wigeon
It’s still a good choice but can feel underwhelming at below heresy
spice veldt
warp charges are the most annoying aspect of psyker to me
worthy moon
@spice veldt and what about level 5 and 10 feats with this set up?
I got quietitude and inner tranquility atm
spice veldt
quietude is the generalist option and is very safe
for lvl10, and you could go with either warp unleashed or inner tranq
void mural
and what should I take at level 15 with that set up
CD aura if you want to f a lot. CL for hitting ogryn 2 shot break points at diffulty 4/5, depending on build
spice veldt
I have a preference for warp unleashed over inner tranquility since I have a melee focus
shadow wigeon
The real answer is that there’s actually several ways you can slice it and they are all fine, just different.
spice veldt
though WU buffs brain burst now, so there's that
worthy moon
Legend, thank you so much for your help! The Darktide community is very helpful to us noobs 🙂
void mural
<@297182781346152448> and what about level 5 and 10 feats with this set up?
Personally, for level 10, the choice is: do you want to do lots of warp attacks, or do you like sitting at high peril with a gun?
shadow wigeon
Legend, thank you so much for your help! The Darktide community is very helpful ...
Psyker changes more than the other classes as you level up, and as you try other difficulties.
spice veldt
one warning being that the earliest staff you get (Trauma) also happens to suck the most at lower ratings
void mural
Did warp absorption ever get changed to proc more than once with a special charged illisi attack?
spice veldt
yeah that got fixed
void mural
Noice
spice veldt
I brought it out to heresy and it was nice to just run into ranged enemies
I still don't like it since I don't have any safe toughness regeneration when I'm away from my team
maybe I just need to play around the special attacks a bit more
void mural
Yeah, sword rub & quietude is nice to have
spice veldt
if only we had a peril glock
then I would absolutely run warp absorption with that
a force staff that doesn't take 1 second to charge before it can do anything meaningful
void mural
For real! We need more force weapon variety, and weapon specific blessings
spice veldt
the blessings are proper depressing on the staffs
void mural
For real
They took the shit middle road of giving every staff (nearly) the same exact blessings, but not letting them be shared between them
unreal dust
... is there no "Resist" to Pox Burster Perk on curios?
spice veldt
or no particular uniqueness to the blessings beyond Rending Shockwave on the trauma staffs or Blazing Spirit on the equinox staffs
void mural
or no particular uniqueness to the blessings beyond Rending Shockwave on the tra...
That's what I meant. They didn't make them shared, which would make sense with the current paradigm. But the also didn't make them unique, to actually be reasonable to not be shared
They should all share blessings except for any unique ones
olive ember
Imagine needing ranged toughness regen
Just run up to the shooters and slice them up
And then cut them down
winter magnet
what should I be looking for on the pointy force sword?
unreal dust
what should I be looking for on the pointy force sword?
Slaughterer is generally considered required across all swords. After that... Deflector or Peril Power or whatever. Your goal with Deimos is to be able to face stab a Mutant with H2 and one-shot it
unreal dust
Not special
winter magnet
what mean by h2 then?
winter magnet
ahh ok thanks
winter magnet
thanks
unreal dust
Also means you really want to snag that sexy +25% vs Mutants perk
devout briar
I don't know much about psyker stuff, what perks works on surge?
void mural
Maybe +crit, +flak? Idk, I don't play surge
devout briar
Switched stam to flak, will up the nexus once I have better one
Wish there were stagger or peril related perks 
Unless crit grants better stagger, but I doubt that
mental rock
actually im pretty sure surge crits have more stagger
spice veldt
just testing in the meatgrinder, I dont notice any difference in stagger between surge crits and non-crits
mental rock
hm youre probably right, I was just going off the damage tables
spice veldt
that's true
mental rock
or it simply might not matter since surge staggers everything anyway
spice veldt
though I'm pretty sure the surge has stagger ignore
since the trauma staff has higher stagger than it but is unable to stagger mutants
so that throws a wrench into the equations
rich rose
I REALLY need some good T4 for purg
snow coral
what's the dump stat for a voidstrike staff? quell speed?
spice veldt
warp res or blast radius being my personal icks
snow coral
See I feel like both of those are needed, lol. warp resist lets you charge more shots before quelling and blast radius catches more
spice veldt
the epicentre has a cleave limit of 6 regardless of the blast radius
ornate hamlet
Is blast radius the size of the explosion that hits the ground, or the radius of the ball that's fired and hits enemies before hitting the wall?
spice veldt
and voidstrike gets transfer peril, and it has probably the lowest peril generation out of any staff
it's both
spice veldt
or you cranked your height slider to the max
blazing oak
Sometimes when a group spawns they chant a word that sounds like “lies”. Are they actually chanting that or a different word
autumn smelt
i do gotta ask
i like the deimos force sword right
but like
im so shit with it
how do you actually properly use it
shrewd nest
Light 1 then hold a heavy for mutants, spam lights for hordes, light 1 heavy for just head hunting
autumn smelt
cuz most of the time i find myself using my purg staff during horde engagements and BB for elites and shit, and only swapping to deimos when i have no room to use purg
which doesnt turn out well for me
and since then ive swapped to a meh statted bm antax and it just works so much better as a melee
north solstice
cuz most of the time i find myself using my purg staff during horde engagements ...
deimos is a single target melee
ornate hamlet
Does deimos have a diagonal slash combo like obscurus? I vaguely recall its second heavy being diagonal
shrewd nest
Does deimos have a diagonal slash combo like obscurus? I vaguely recall its seco...
Just spam lights, works just fine
north solstice
not saying you cant horde clear with deimos its just a lot less effective
shrewd nest
Or push attack and 3 lights too works
autumn smelt
great for dealing with special enemies
every time ive used it, ive put myself in a more dangerous position just to kill the elite
shrewd nest
Illisi is a horde beast that is good at single target, deimos is a single target beast that is good at horrde clear
autumn smelt
when i would have been safer just brainbursting them
shrewd nest
every time ive used it, ive put myself in a more dangerous position just to kill...
Yeah, never do that, deimos is for being defensive, not going on the offensive towards thigns with
If they come to you, fuck em up, if they don't you have other options
autumn smelt
Yeah, never do that, deimos is for being defensive, not going on the offensive t...
which results in me only using it for hordes
because i never find myself in a position where im meleeing elites
shrewd nest
It's there for dodging, fucking up an elite that's right in melee with you and general stragglers, your staff is for hordes
autumn smelt
idk i guess it just doesnt fit my playstyle
ive been trying to get literally any good illisi but my godly psyker rng has stopped there
shrewd nest
Ifyou want a horde weapon, illisi is tailored exactly for that
autumn smelt
mostly just an "ah shit im in a tight spot rn" weapon
cuz i BB and purg 95% of the time
shrewd nest
Deimos is a tool for when you're on the backfoot moreso
autumn smelt
which an antax has been filling that gap, but it can only go so far with psykers limited stamina and not having unlimited dodges
shrewd nest
Though really, deimos is for everything that BB and purgatos isn't doing for you
Seems like a great fit for purge staff
north cradle
I second this, Deimos is great if you're using Surge or Purgatus so you can finish off Elites
autumn smelt
i mean to me i think of purg as horde clear and BB as elite clear
shrewd nest
I wouldn't say surge, I say illisi is near tailor made to be great with surge
Surge sucks at killing hordes but is great at stopping anything bigger
autumn smelt
if bb is great single target damage, whats the point in having a 2nd single target damage
shrewd nest
Illisi is eh at big thigns but fucks hordes
If you are trying to bb a charging mutant or a mauler not respecting social distancing, or simply anything when you're in melee range of things, you're going to ge ass blasted
autumn smelt
mutants tend to be easy to dodge tho, and a mauler gets staggered from 1 BB, and you can dodge their attack during that charging period
idk thats what ive done and its worked out well for me
if theres more than 1 mauler or rager i typically have my ult to knock them down then rapid pop them with kinetic barrage
shrewd nest
And what would an illisi do for your and your purgatos?
spice veldt
for me, my melee (Illisi) is the map rusher
it'll kill enemies faster than BB or my staff, and it forces me to constantly be forward
I run it with the Trauma staff
shrewd nest
The role is what I said mostly, and backfoot horde clear when you can't afford room to purge, also of course assassination targets. You're welcome to not use some of that, but that's more than you'd get from anything else
I love it on my trauma too
I stopped really using purg much
cold geode
i generally use illis for my gunker build, gun does the muties and larger shit, illis does hordes works well
shrewd nest
Also if you dodge a mutant, you still have to eventually kill it
Illisi for surge and guns for damn sure, super good combo
cold geode
i think about weapons as either horde clear or single target, there is some cross over of course but you generally need one of each
shrewd nest
Besides, fuckin love warp absorption with surge and illsi, using the charge as a sick toughness vampire attack
Surge may struggle to KILL a lot, but that's where throwing an illisi makes it a way more fun melee than anything zealot's doing
cold geode
surge is the odd man out staff
doesnt really kill anything (cept for minor flak enemies) so you could do either illis or deimos with it
shrewd nest
Cause it works in reverse to other staves for what it's good at
ornate hamlet
i think about weapons as either horde clear or single target, there is some cros...
Then there's illisi and BM antax
shrewd nest
It kills crushers and flak, does bad with hordes, so you bring the sword that's eh with crushers and bulwarks, but fucks hordes, every weakness if fully covered, deimos doesn't really cover the horde weakness the same
autumn smelt
would you pair an illisi with voidstrike then?
shrewd nest
Voidstrike fucks hordes, so no, I'd go deimos there too
autumn smelt
havent used voidstrike much outside of leveling so im not too sure what its largest strength is
cold geode
crushes hordes mostly
shrewd nest
Voidstrike is like the purgatos but with better range
Deimos for mutants or when you can't charge a right mouse bolt
cold geode
I LOVE GAMBLING!!!!
Ever gambled on a fart at lost?
stone quest
Voidstrike is like the purgatos but with better range
Also, bowling.
Lobbing bowling balls is never unsatisfying.
north solstice
im a purg user/loser and i love a bit of surge from time to time, i just dont enjoy using voidstrike
autumn smelt
Voidstrike is like the purgatos but with better range
i mean i got both covered pretty nicely lol
autumn smelt
pretty much any gun on my psyker is a mission reward i havent turned into a blessing yet
north solstice
fair i just sell mine in my never ending mission of rolling for a good sword
autumn smelt
idk man
i just brought my deimos in to another mission and i gotta say
the antax is just doing it better for me
ik my deimos isnt the BEST but still
its the sword itself that i just dont do well with
plus ive blown myself up too many times by bashing enemies away while at 100% peril
ember sentinel
Might just need some practice with the peril management
I haven't used antax ik its quite good
But deimos is also very good
autumn smelt
ive gotten really good with peril management, that was something i just didnt know gave peril, cuz it only gives it when you actually push an enemy
like i literally only just learned that and went "oh so thats why i had those random explosions"
ember sentinel
Ah i see what you meant
autumn smelt
it would take quite a long while to work block pushes into my peril management given than its something i do habitually on literally all 3 other classes
i feel like it might be better if i just stick to the antax because of the fact that it would be 1 less thing to worry about, it might not be as good for the situations i use it in, but i can pay more attention to actually playing the game
plus theres also the fact that i can never hit the deimos light attacks for the life of me like what the fuck
shrewd nest
Especially surge staff, that's a staff that would actually love that blessing
steep shuttle
gloomy yarrow
lol its probably still good
long wharf
the best blessing to add to the surge staff would be blazing spirit
steel flame
Whatre the best blessings for Purgatus?
autumn smelt
Whatre the best blessings for Purgatus?
nexus and flurry
steel flame
ty
long wharf
trash bin
cyan portal
Has anyone worked out if the damage stat on the purga does anything useful? Stagger maybe?
spice veldt
well, damage
cyan portal
yeah, but that 7% roll does 13, an 80% does what, 16?
copper torrent
buy this yes?
ember sentinel
P sure 99% of damage comes from burn
spice veldt
and fire rate
ember sentinel
Yeah id buy that
spice veldt
burn down a mauler with that 7% damage roll and compare it to an 80% damage roll
ember sentinel
Burns a little low but
copper torrent
67% too low for burn?
ember sentinel
Those blessings are near perfect
copper torrent
I can pull the blessing later if I need to.
copper torrent
I thought crit was good on purg?
ember sentinel
And you replace sprint
copper torrent
Right, right.
Well, it's certainly better than mine that I have now, anyway. I can pull wn off it later.
ember sentinel
Yeah if its better buy it and take what you need later
copper torrent
Thanks @ember sentinel
long wharf
buy this yes?
you buy that in order to strip warp nexus 4 off
north solstice
id still use it if you dont have anything better
long wharf
I mean, "if you don't have anything better" always applies, it goes without saying
cyan notch
Has anyone worked out if the damage stat on the purga does anything useful? Stag...
yea and it doesnt
long wharf
the lower weakspot hits is the giveaway
surge staff also gets a lot more crit hits in
well, enemies staggered also
what's really strange, though, is the lack of specials and disablers killed
wide tiger
hard to get kills when vet erases
copper torrent
I'm old. Someone in chat said "Bro blessed up". What does that even mean?
long wharf
hard to get kills when vet erases
true
heady swan
autumn smelt
i think it was warp flurry
so im considering swapping feats around
left is what i got on rn (and prolly what ill keep using for shock trooper cuz it goes hard)
but right is what im thinking about using for everything else, since i use purg staff
how useful are the 1st and 2nd soulblaze feats, are they worth running?
i know the ascendant blaze is tho
safe crystal
Wildfire had some stack shenanigans making it bad a purg, mainly because everything you're trying to kill is already at above the soul blaze stacks it can transfer. You'll rarely want to brain burst, so wrack isnt that great either, and its competing with either more flames because warp resist or higher damage overall with warp unleashed.
autumn smelt
i was assuming that warp unleashed increased the damage of the application of the burn and not the burn itself, considering the burn is its own kind of damage
spice veldt
that was the case when warp unleashed only applied to force weapon attacks only, but now it buffs all damage
safe crystal
It was changed to all damage, iirc. Havent played in a while so cant check
autumn smelt
oh cool
so i wasnt hindering myself when using it lol
so then i assume that you want warp battery for more stacks of ascendant blaze?
considering that youll stay topped off on charges bc of the 10% chance
safe crystal
6 stacks allowed you to clear a room full of shooters with AB, not sure if that still applies
cyan notch
P sure 99% of damage comes from burn
direct damage does quite a bit
its not that damage doesnt do anything by itself its that the difference between 0 damage to 80 damage is very small (it already chunks by default)
spice veldt
and as far as I can tell, the "fire rate" of the direct damage also increases with the damage stat
autumn smelt
actually i aint gonna lie
it feels like it would be a pain in the ass on higher difficulty to keep up warp charges with ascendant blaze
cuz you would be force to brain burst once in a while cuz of the short range of the purg staff, plus youre relying on rng
spice veldt
I forget the exact values, but I think it was a 43% dmg and 80% dmg staffs? I compared them and saw a 40 DPS difference when burning down a mauler (191 DPS vs 230 DPS)
not terribly massive, but it doesn't hurt to have more damage
autumn smelt
yeah this feels less powerful than kinetic barrage, even when using the purg staff
youd have to do a lot more work to keep it up, and sometimes it still isnt possible to maintain it
and only when its at its best does it seem to compete with kinetic barrage
like yeah killing an entire room of gunners is cool but that requires either 6 brain bursts or a horde right before
autumn smelt
vs just pop my ult and oopsie no more elites in the room
cyan notch
so its like 40 damage difference
spice veldt
probably was the crit that made the difference in my testing then
safe crystal
vs just pop my ult and oopsie no more elites in the room
Its preference imo. AB deletes EVERY SINGLE dreg stalker (used to kill scabs as well, but burn nerf, so not sure anymore) in a 30m cone, through walls, behind cover, doesnt matter. The downside is you need to babysit the charges a bit during downtime, but during a horde, you'll usually go max stacks near instantly
autumn smelt
Its preference imo. AB deletes EVERY SINGLE dreg stalker (used to kill scabs as ...
having to manage the upkeep of the stacks is what kills it for me
safe crystal
Understandable, it can be a pain
copper torrent
flak or maniac for shredder? If I can only pick one.
autumn smelt
Understandable, it can be a pain
i would honestly be underpreforming just to keep my stacks up as opposed to playing at my best and always being at max cuz of kinetic flayer
autumn smelt
i dont feel like the tradeoff for the room wipe is worth literally playing worse for the rest of the time
ember sentinel
flak or maniac for shredder? If I can only pick one.
Id say flak
safe crystal
i dont feel like the tradeoff for the room wipe is worth literally playing worse...
I'd honestly be split between AB and KB nowadays for purg, mainly because warp unleashed would let me 2 BB reapers and crushers. I would need to BB a lot more than im used to with purg, though
autumn smelt
i use bb quite a lot
cuz of purgs short range, anytime that anything is far out of my range and the other classes are just shooting them with their guns im just brain bursting lmao
not like i can do anything else at that range lol
and it would be pretty stupid for me to rush into a room full of gunners away from my team
safe crystal
I stopped using purg at some point and embraced bowling ball staff, it just feels better. Using a very similar feat list as the one you posted earlier
autumn smelt
voidstrike?
safe crystal
Ya
autumn smelt
i need to start using mine
pretty much got exactly what you want on it, just need a higher tier transfer
copper torrent
Thanks again @ember sentinel
autumn smelt
the dump stat being quell is fine cuz transfer exists on there
ember sentinel
If you use trauma, when your at long range is it better to LMB shooters or just BB
Like out of range of the special
spice veldt
get closer to enemies
if it's scab shooters (green eyes), then a +flak trauma LMB should be able to one-shot headshot them
autumn smelt
i would probably want to get a decent deimos before i try out voidstrike tho
i dont think the antax would cut it for that one
ember sentinel
Ok good to know
I wasnt sure how good lmb actually was
I figured brain burst was best but thats slow
When picking off way out shooters
autumn smelt
its pretty decent, its just that theyre projectiles so they can be hard to hit if youre moving (i have bad aim)
safe crystal
You can always aim up into the skies and make warp-charged fireworks with trauma if things are out of your reach
Celebrate the occasion of getting shredded by 20+ shooters
spice veldt
and trauma interrupting the volleys of shooters in its outer area when sufficiently charged
with an 80% blast radius staff, that's a 16.8 meter diameter circle
autumn smelt
i was about to say what the FUCK
spice veldt
if only I could deal 400 damage to everyone in an 8.4 radius circle repeatedly 😔
still good, and it makes plenty of space
and a fully charged trauma outer area will interrupt shotgunners out of their volleys
exotic comet
what kind of curios do psykers build? stamina?
spice veldt
depends, but most people run HP
if you run kinetic deflection, there's not much need for stamina curios
long wharf
entirely incorrect
a single +3 stamina curio is precisely what you need to not worry about needing stamina on weapons
autumn smelt
3 stamina bars in deimos kinda hurts tho....
long wharf
it makes a huge difference in blocking peril cost
north cradle
More stamina bars = less Peril when blocking
spice veldt
when are you ever blocking that much though
long wharf
a boss?
spice veldt
as long as you don't get guardbroken nothing else matters
north cradle
Gunners and Shotgunners too
spice veldt
it's a bad idea to block the plogryn with kinetic deflection either way
long wharf
frankly, there's no reason for any psyker to not run kinetic deflection
spice veldt
just eat their charge or uppercut with your toughness
north cradle
I think every individual Shotgunner pellet generates Peril
autumn smelt
i never use kinetic deflection though, im just talking about pushes and sprinting to a target to hit them like a mutant or something
cyan notch
yea ive not run 3x stamina in a long time and never felt a need for more
spice veldt
I just think it's a little redundant to run both KD and +stam curios
not that it's useless
long wharf
a +3 stamina curio with block efficiency on curios lets you block-tank a demonhost
it's not redundant at all
clear heath
yeah but why
long wharf
so you can?
cyan notch
ur really not doing that much and you can just dodge kite anyway
spice veldt
I am absolutely certain that there is some redundancy
clear heath
You could also like actually dodge
spice veldt
are you really going to argue that there is no redundancy at all?
long wharf
you can dodge and block
are you really trying to downplay what effect max stamina has on the peril block cost?
spice veldt
and gearing yourself specifically to block daemonhosts is quite a specific situation
yes, because you shouldn't ever be blocking that much
cyan notch
you can dodge and block fine just with default stam since dodge does a lot of the heavy lifting vs a dh
spice veldt
peril block is four times your stamina bar
I seriously doubt that you need that much
I already do fine with 12% block eff and a +3 stam curio
clear heath
it has a strong effect mathmatically
but that strong effect is just increasing what was already overkill
spice veldt
and that's with the force swords and their bugged ass 1.5 block cost
spice veldt
sssmh
ember sentinel
I dont even use stam/block efficiency anything and do fine
long wharf
fantastic
ember sentinel
Didn't realize it was bugged tho
long wharf
I like knowing I have a lot of breathing room when it comes to charging my fsword against the horde and being able to block rager hits that I saw at the last minute
autumn smelt
i personally just want stam cuz itll make tight moments feel better
long wharf
if you always play perfectly, don't bother with extra stamina
ember sentinel
Yeah i dont think its bad
clear heath
I just think you have a lot already with just kd
autumn smelt
since i dont use kinetic deflection and all that
spice veldt
I don't play perfectly and I still don't see the need for even more blocking capacity
autumn smelt
i find myself dodging more often than blocking so
long wharf
sometimes you dodge into range of something
olive ember
tbh with peril blocking
clear heath
Like with just the base 3 stam on fs and kd, I don't sit around with my nearly 15 bars of effective stamina and think "man i really wish it was 30"
spice veldt
sure you might not pay attention to ragers and accidentally enter their range, but that doesn't happen enough such that my ult isn't up for them
olive ember
if you are running peril blocking
if you are like arcotash and running the inferior option
kekw
spice veldt
and if you have trouble with that, sure you can get some more blocking capacity
ember sentinel
Yeah i find im dodging or pushing
spice veldt
but these are also things that you can work around fairly easily
long wharf
I personally enjoy telling the pug "hey, I can tank that DH, let's kill it"
but maybe I'm also still used to how I played with a combat axe
and haven't fully adjusted to the Illisi yet
clear heath
It's just taking corruption for no reason
olive ember
^^ and thats if things go smoothly
spice veldt
I haven't had many situations where my team has triggered the daemonhosts
and none at all within the last week
autumn smelt
a dh is literally a bunch of corruption, and typically 2 people down
olive ember
I had a dh trigger on hi shock
worn ravine
do the melk staff stats worth make it upgrading, or just scrap for warp nexus?
forest coral
The only time worth going for is if there are 2 hammer zealots
autumn smelt
more if something else was going on
forest coral
olive ember
first hi shock we beat and we were dealing with dh and mutants
olive ember
I think I basically played bait and kept the dh busy
olive ember
yeah take the nexus
autumn smelt
I had a dh trigger on hi shock
same, we were next to a door when elites started spawning on the corridor to the final event of the repair mission
poxburster immediately jump out the door and exploded launching us into the dh
instant loss in 10 seconds
ember sentinel
Poxbursters are so cursed lol
autumn smelt
the mission was literally smooth sailing
then that happened and lost the mission faster than we could blink
olive ember
I mean from my experience
olive ember
Hi int is where things can go from 100% fine to screwed at any time
hi shock is just a shit show in general
from start to finish
ember sentinel
Yeah dh on its own is bad enough without shield ogryn
olive ember
any time you are "fine" is a time you should be hauling ass to the next chokepoint
autumn smelt
honestly the shit from shock far outweighs hi int that you rarely ever struggle outside of the shock troop groups cuz youre already sweating your mind out
ember sentinel
Yeah shock troop and high int are not the same
autumn smelt
what i mean is
forest coral
but is it fun for u 
forest coral
HI int shock gauntlet is the most fun this game has to offer
and i wish it was a toggle on maps we can host
autumn smelt
the effects to the mission that high intensity adds is not noticable when shock trooper exists on the mission
ember sentinel
Oh yeah
autumn smelt
you breeze through everything that isnt the specialist squads
ember sentinel
I forget that it does anything more than more specials
autumn smelt
it literally just sends packs of specials at you in bursts
thats all it does
but on damnations theres just
so many
cyan notch
tanking dh lost its novelty to me long ago
ember sentinel
Ive never done it not on damnation
autumn smelt
that it outweights anything else you might notice as more intense from high intensity
ember sentinel
Wonder how different it is
autumn smelt
Ive never done it not on damnation
ive done it on malice and on sedition
cyan notch
waste of time and u take damage for no reason and no reward
autumn smelt
malice was hard cuz malice players lol
cyan notch
lowers your plasteel/hour
autumn smelt
sedition i didnt notice the modifier was on
i only remembered when i saw the modifier rewards
12 minute investigate lol
ember sentinel
Sedition shock troopers seems interesting lol
autumn smelt
its interesting in the fact that i literally forgot it was on cuz of how little there was
of anything
ember sentinel
Yeah theres just nothing
What is difficulty one then
My first ever run in darktide was sedation and it was still free
Cause i dont need to do anything defensive
autumn smelt
there actually is a hishock sedition up now if you wanna try it
ember sentinel
Not at my pc rn unfort
autumn smelt
its just weird to me that in my experience, i had to focus up in hi damns almost as much as i do in hi shock damns
like the difference in difficulty is still there and its massive, but you really feel the effects of high intensity when theres no shock trooper for some reason
whereas you dont in hishock
shrewd nest
The quest for a good trauma staff is now over, peace has fallen upon me (I'll change the perk, you can see I'm in need of the plasteel)
Haha, the quest is never over, now I gotta build a blazing spirit staff once I get a good warp nexus staff to toss my BS on
autumn smelt
The quest for a good trauma staff is now over, peace has fallen upon me (I'll ch...
wait is brittle shockwave a good perk on it?
shrewd nest
The meta for it, yeah
autumn smelt
i have that exact blessing roll and i thought you wanted something else for it
3 and 3
autumn smelt
oh so id just replace the flurry to 4 when i get it then right
shrewd nest
Fucking up crushers is an important parrt of the trauma, that blessing helps it do that
Well, helps your team mates fuck em up moreso
Now to make a warp nexus/blazing spirit trauma for some good ol' purgatos at home
hot coral
force sword so nice once i found out i can infinitely cha cha slide everywhere
who tf needs walking
shrewd nest
I got some super nice force swords too, that one there's got slaughterer as the anchor too so if I get the rending one, if I want shred on it, what be it, can toss it on, trying deflector for now though since I don't think deimos needs much more
manic halo
remind me what brittlness does again?
shrewd nest
REduces armor
So you blast a crusher, mauler, or even flak dudes, eveyone's damage is reduced less by said armor
And it works on the outer blast too, so that's a 16ish meter diameter I believe armor blast that shoots faster (and therefore brittles armor faster too)
Super important to have an answer when they spawn 10 crushers on your ass, this is an answer to that
vestal raven
spice veldt
Rending only comes as a 3, but yeah
it exists in all tiers
shrewd nest
I only saw it in game and on the sight as : only for shockwVe ar least
formal flume
Yeah, yeah, I know. Shitty picture. Don’t have access to a desktop rn.
Should I use this on my psyker?
void mural
It'd be decent if it weren't rashad
void mural
It's not terrible, but it's a long way from great
cyan notch
Can I put BM on the antax?
yes
void mural
You and everyone that plays darktide
formal flume
Lol
forest coral
I escaped mmos to escape rng
and then went to monster honter and darktide which is filled with rng anyway
worn ravine
whats the dump stat on ch sword?
forest coral
shredder
pale basalt
oh lame
near wyvern
Surge on trauma is one of those things that initially sound cool, then when you hear how it works it's lame. Then you wish it would work and think it's cool, until you realize how it would work for real, which would be lame.
(Casting a second spell after instagib would just make a funny visual.)
olive ember
Well if it worked on RMB i guess it would depend on how fast the 2nd explosion comes out
if its near instantaneous maybe it would be nice on crushers n maulers etc.
but if its delayed then its kinda shit even if it worked
spice veldt
voidstrike vibes
stable silo
surge blazing soulstrike staff for teh emps
who needs flurry when u can shoot twice 60% of the time every time
wat u guys think reroll exe to slaught or embrace hope and reroll deflec to slaught and hope exe gets buffed
summer prairie
If you never play with randoms maybe it is of limited utility but otherwise it's better than some additional power
even with constant dodge slides you often take damage between them
pale basalt
If I'm getting shot at I should be not have been caught flat footed or should be shooting back
summer prairie
and it allows for more aggressive play
pale basalt
disagree you advance too slow
summer prairie
yeah well shooters can spawn anywhere around you
you don't have to hold block and advance
you can slide+block between the slides
or spam dodge while holding block
which is still fast movement
olive ember
theres this perception that blocking bullets involving afk holding rmb tbh
summer prairie
on deimos holding block and dodging backwards is even faster than just dodge sliding backwards
olive ember
what people don't realize is that a deflector FS is still a FS, unlike a slab shield
summer prairie
probably the same for illisi
and it's not like you have to stack stamina+block cost to deal with mass shooters since you can do this https://streamable.com/xmg10z
viral solstice
u could also just sprint tho
viral solstice
right but i mean unless ur fully surrounded the sprint method is pretty brainless ez
turn sideways and book it
spice veldt
deflector would significantly lower the risk of my playstyle, but I still prefer the extra power
though if I want to actually win games, I'd probably slap on deflector
taking focused channeling off of my trauma made me remember how fucking annoying gunners usually are
spice veldt
that's from NumericUI to indicate that the 0% is a peril indicator, not an ammo indicator
cold geode
its peril
snow coral
So I get that, but what is the skull?
spice veldt
you'll notice it's the same skull symbol next to your own peril
summer prairie
his skull is very dangerous
clear heath
I wish it would just replace the ammo icon instead
spice veldt
I do think it's weirdly placed
clear heath
actually wait, what happens if they have botb ammo and peril?
forgot gunpsyker exists
I assume it only shows ammo?
primal plume
i hate this fucking blessing
spice veldt
that might explain the placement
I think it shows the ammo percent%, and only the skull is left to be a peril indicator, changing colors to vaguely show at what peril they are at
stable silo
get dat slaught shit off there and run mighty shred and u got yourself a nice flamer sword low dmg for more fiiiiire
olive ember
remove slaughterer kekw
summer prairie
comfy box https://streamable.com/jda8xm
kind of annoying how the grenades push you around though, like really
spice veldt
get a staff with focused channeling and hold RMB while they're doing that
even more comfort
willow jolt
???????
summer prairie
ah, another reason to run that
willow jolt
how do you gun n run with a staff
olive ember
with confidence
its only rly has use on the purge since you can sprint up to shoot groups while lmbing to stagger them or wte
viral solstice
what is interesting about sliding under fire is that there is a specific timing that im pretty sure leaves only like a 1f gap and so is near invulnerability under normal levels of fire, but if u miss it u eat the stagger poopoo. its why ive started using the sprint tech more
kind jay
let me replace my melee with a 2nd staff
viral solstice
obviously on non-fs weapons thats fine because 3-4 is all ur getting in a row anyway
but on a fs its annoying to get a perfect chain of like 5 then get hit the 6th time and be like
did i miss it
kind jay
let me dual wield surge
ionic frost
Why do level 24 vets that have never had a character at level 30 think they can do HISTG Damnation?
olive ember
Lmao
Darktide
I mean I’ve seen 6 wound ogryn literally just yesterday on hi 5 shock
ionic frost
lol
He goes: 300 health + 250 health + 200 health + 150 health +100 health + 50 health = Bestest HP Ogryn
summer prairie
maybe they are just doing quickplay
olive ember
All wounds is “mathematically superior” you see
I mean yes but both Damnation missions were h5s
ionic frost
Bring back deflector blocking bullets while reviving and I could revive that Ogryn 5 times. =)
Without it he's probably somewhere that not even the Emperor could revive him...
olive ember
Range block on deflector was great
But we are all just cheating bug exploiters smh smh
Idk they should’ve kept deflector as a built in and made the blessing allow ranged block on revive
ionic frost
U don't want bugs exploited, don't put em in your game =D
But quality coders cost money...
ionic frost
Idk they should’ve kept deflector as a built in and made the blessing allow rang...
I like...
idle bay
Imagine if Deflector blessing allowed to reflect damage back to attackers 🙂
viral solstice
would be cool if instead of block efficiency on it it it had a justframe mechanic or something
or tier 4 let u block unblockables
add the perfectly timed block thing from vt back it was cool
olive ember
I mean
That would just make it rly shit lmao
Blocking unblockables applies to like 3 enemies in the game
And on an infinite dodge weapon no less
viral solstice
it would be way fuckin cooler
and besides u run surge u love bad stuff
u should be on board
olive ember
I don’t wanna hear it claw lover
pearl lion
Thanks Reddit
viral solstice
claw squad roll out
pearl lion
(its an illisi)
spice veldt
there are some people who still think a BM antax is better
olive ember
Thanks Reddit
Reddit is always like a week or two behind on the takes
spice veldt
so I suppose it's warranted
olive ember
there are some people who still think a BM antax is better
Yo what?
Send me the screenshots
olive ember
Damn
viral solstice
a lot of ppl dont really know how slaughterer works
spice veldt
I had an argument where I wrote out the net damage done by illisi and compared that to the illisi
I think a BM antax had to hit like 60-ish groaners/poxwalkers to reach comparable damage with the illisi hitting 21/28 poxwalkers/groaners or something along those lines
olive ember
Fucking arcotash
This is the reason why illisi is going to be nerfed next patch
Ignorance is bliss
forest coral
When is the next patch anyway
spice veldt
just be glad that I haven't bug reported slaughterer lasting 3.5 seconds instead of 2 seconds