psyker-class

[obtuse moth]

the charged right click have a very generous hitbox though

[fallow falcon]

THIS IS FINE

[late yew]

It does, it makes difference between 1 shot and 2 shot

[late yew]

Skill issue

[spice veldt]

sometimes, but I usually fully charge my voidstrike for the cleave

[obtuse moth]

you can also charge from cover and then pop out and shoot

[spice veldt]

so it'll one-shot shooters/stalkers anyways

so I don't find the damage bonus from weakspots too important except on elites

[cursive marten]

The best perk

[fallow falcon]

3802 rerolls

That has to be a record

[olive ember]

3802 🤔

Post it on Reddit, complain about rng system

Free updoots

[formal flume]

That is fucking ridiculous. But, I’ve seen people get upwards of 6k

[olive ember]

Not bad not bad

[feral verge]

i'd swap flak to maniac

[obtuse moth]

^

[graceful aurora]

Werd I had no idea. That'd sounds awesome plus: you get to have the rocket launcher

[spice veldt]

though it's really only for a split second

I just like the stagger since it's more guaranteed than dodge-sliding which requires me to kinda warm up for the timing

[olive ember]

I see

[spice veldt]

also depends on the map section
I should prob compile a list of map sections that are good or bad for trauma

[olive ember]

SMH so many psyker resources

[spice veldt]

also sounds like too much work the more I think about it

and most map sections good for trauma are also good for just dodge-sliding with melee

I want my peril Glock so that I can immediately swap off the trauma

[fallow falcon]

I've been permabanned from reddit 12 times now

[north solstice]

save some pussy for the rest of us bro

[ornate hamlet]

Only had it twice

Though one technically doesn't count because I went to a subreddit I didn't post on to antagonize a moderator for deleting a guy's work saying it was AI and then saying the guy's art isn't art or something like that

Like, real twat shit

[nimble burrow]

Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff

[ornate hamlet]

Me when I'm using greathammer huntsman and need to farm THP

[twilit flicker]

Whhoops! I just dropped my super old Trauma Force Staff, boy this thing brings back memories. 🥲
Welp. better get back to this game with my Zarona MkIII Stub Revolver, I need the practice!

MkIIa*

[feral verge]

Crit chance?

Trauma has bad crit damage

[twilit flicker]

Its old, like old old, like I said brings back memories. 🥲

[feral verge]

Ik

But you said just dropped

[ember hornet]

crit is such a damn trap in this game man

[feral verge]

Made me think you've been using it for awhile

As in you just dropped it for another staff

[twilit flicker]

I literally haven't used this thing in months, it has so much figurative dust on it

[feral verge]

After a long time

[ember hornet]

I don't understand why things with 0 crit chance have no crit scaling

like at least make it do the funny 1 in 20 times

[obtuse moth]

do you mean -5% crit chance lol

to counteract your base 5% (besides veteran who has 10%)

[spice veldt]

maybe in the sense of making it do something meaningful when it crits

instead of just only like 10-20% crit damage

[ember hornet]

yes

[spice veldt]

crits on trauma are straight up only 50 more damage or so

[olive ember]

Hey that’s a lot man

That’s 1/6th the hp of a poxwalker!!!

[spice veldt]

:ooo

[twilit flicker]

the difference in crit damage and normal damage is crazy on some weapons, like the deimos, its 100s okay

also, why does the emporer give me force staves? Im trying to get blessings for my guns.

[copper torrent]

Desire detector working as intended

[twilit flicker]

ahh shit

[ember hornet]

revolver be like what if a crit weakspot did less to ragers than a crit, but a weakspot did much more than a normal

[spice veldt]

chad 2.3x weakspot/crit multiplier on force swords

[obtuse moth]

in that screenshot 10% more crit damage to a 413 crit is 23.9 damage if it works like weakspot splits, otherwise its base +10% additional thats dependent on rng. i'd still rather take a +10% elites or +25% armor type

[spice veldt]

in regards to crit chance, that'd be 1.3% average damage per 1% of crit

assuming you don't hit weawkspots

not terrible for the force swords, though it could be better

[twilit flicker]

they really should boost crits, and the stub revolver on top of that.

buuut, if they boost it to make it flat out better than everything else ... everyone would pick it right?

that's why weapons like the deimos exist, but it still needs help lol

[spice veldt]

crit damage already has some neutering in the form of crit dmg being reduced the 2nd and beyond target hit in a cleave

and having reduced effectiveness if you already hit a weakspot

so it's just very unusual that they make weapons have an extremely shitty crit dmg multiplier on top of that

actual triple whammy

[ember hornet]

something about finesse curve being nonsense for crit weakspot

having some kind of cap

crab knows more, idk how it works

[willow hazel]

Just got a 4 Psyker win on Damnation HI Shock Gauntlet

[ember hornet]

how many were using autopistol

[feral verge]

Objekts uses one

[willow hazel]

2 of us

[feral verge]

Least he did when I ran into him

[willow hazel]

the other guy was running Shredder + Knife

[ember hornet]

I love how much higher the autopistol scores are

lol

[willow hazel]

The gun is busted right now

[twilit flicker]

you should downgrade, the autopistol is too strong for some people, use the Columnus mkV, the poor mans autopistol ... the rich mans shitter autopistol?

[ember hornet]

Columnus IAG 🤮

[twilit flicker]

love the autopistol though, please dont nerf

[ember hornet]

maybe nerf pinning by 50%

[rich rose]

Any dates on Mods ?

[feral verge]

What do you mean

@rich rose

Cuz mods are already here

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide

Fatshark is ok with mods so long as there's no blatant cheating or changing of weapon/model skins

[snow coral]

Yeah I have a handful of UI mods that I put in last week after finally taking the time to do it and I'm very happy with it

[willow hazel]

I would like them to just tone down the stagger. A 1/4 second of firing shouldn't stagger a rager.

[spice veldt]

typical rager L getting staggered by basically everything

[cold geode]

omg hi shock torrent, lets see how this goes >.< and im on my zealot

[snow coral]

yeah, 5 hi shock is the one condition I haven't been able to be a winning game yet

have done everything else

[heady bramble]

should I replace unstable power with something?

[rain saddle]

anything but probably slaughter

[spice veldt]

if you're using obscurus for hordeclear, I'd replace it with slaughterer

I also wouldn't put unyielding on the obscurus

[snow coral]

my team just got wrecked by 5 mutants lol

[ember hornet]

unstable is really bad duh

[rain saddle]

does brain burst still work for the 20 kills in a row

[spice veldt]

besides monstrosities, only Bulwarks and Reapers are Unyielding, and reapers have flak on their body which can be hit by aiming off to the side or feet with your special

[north solstice]

yes it does!

i did it yesterday

just make sure not to use your ult as soulblaze may fuck it up

if you use ascendent blaze

[gilded viper]

skill issue moment 😦

[spice veldt]

you don't have a 50ms reaction time? smh

i kinda do wish the game had some i-frames on getting freed like in l4d2, though this game doesn't have friendly fire I suppose

[gilded viper]

honesty i just wish dog would just be deleted from the game

well im over reacting but man

i hate they just stagger you when moving near u, make them so janky to just be near with

and that they INSTANT jump when moving to you

feel like if they had a pause --> jump window it would be fine but they sometimes do that

[spice veldt]

i'm fine with them being able to transition into a pounce while running if they're running straight at you

but they can do that shit while running perpendicular to you

[gilded viper]

do 5 360 spin before jumping

[spice veldt]

and when they stagger you and then decide to target you for a pounce, and you literally can't do anything because of the stagger

[ruby plover]

just never unequip shredder

:)

[gilded viper]

that my favorite combo

they run up to be 1cm near u, stun you then jump

[spice veldt]

and it seems to be a stagger specifically unique to dogs for some reason

I guess they figured that it was just too easy to camp dogs?

for some reason; but then it makes dog much more annoying in open spaces

[gilded viper]

i just rather VT2 assasin over this shit

dog feel like a huge coin flip on 5 different coins

unless i just use a super heavy stagger range like shredder

[spice veldt]

typical gunker W

I haven't used a gun for a while and got surprised at how dogs are so easy to deal with guns

where's my staff with a reactive primary/secondary

though I suppose the bolt LMB always staggers them reliably

still hate it

[gilded viper]

yeah the travel time for stave suck

[spice veldt]

and the minor delay on shooting

combined with ping

and the slow fire rate giving you practically no chance for followups

OR ENEMIES DUCKING BECAUSE THEY GET SUPPRESSED BY THE PROJECTILE

CAUSING YOU TO MISS YOUR SHOT

[gilded viper]

ping.....

lowkey been killing my mood for this game for a while now

getting so sick of hit reg

[spice veldt]

very hit or miss, and the game tends to have spikes with a bunch of enemies spawned

[gilded viper]

yeah i realize i like recon cause u can barely notice the hit reg

but then i use other heavier hitting gun and it just like

BRUH

[spice veldt]

simply perform lag compensation in your head

[gilded viper]

2 no hit headshots into instant supression/shield break

i can see that for moving target

it just wack it sometimes just no reg on standing till targets

[kind jay]

my favorite is when something that should be staggered isn't

[gilded viper]

^

love getting hit when the server just cucks u

[spice veldt]

especially annoying when I LMB my trauma and it doesn't fire

and I reflexively let go of RMB since I would expect it to shoot

so my cast ends up not firing and being canceled

and I'm pretty sure it's eaten my cast even when I didn't let go of RMB

just fuckin poof into nowhere

or getting tackled by a mutant despite dodging early and seeing the mutant clear the area to my side

[gilded viper]

i wonder where their servers, seem to always be 60+ ping

[spice veldt]

I usually get 40 ping on NA west, though I live near a city that tends to house data centers

sometimes spiking to 100 ping when hordes spawn

[kind jay]

muties are extra fun because they also have that tokyo drift 90 degree headass turn capability.

[spice veldt]

you foolish fool, daring to dodge near a corner

[gilded viper]

yes 😦

[spice veldt]

why did they prevent the mutant from having their tracking broken when near corners

what was the rationale

[gilded viper]

atleast muties work when it work but sometimes they track a bit too much near corners

[spice veldt]

like I'm fine with their sharp ass turning angles, but at least my dodge should work reliably regardless of map geometry right?

especially the corners which the maps are littered with

[gilded viper]

always funny thinking about this, cause that mean they should never be able to stun themself if they just follow the rule with corners

[kind jay]

in theory. on paper. supposedly

[twilit flicker]

Columnus mkV game, grey was a shredder vet, highest total score was an ogryn, and 3rd was a surge psyker ... to be fair most of the work seems to be from the Illisi

[spice veldt]

300iq pick a bad ranged weapon to force yourself to use your melee more

[kind jay]

my only non joke guess is maybe they couldn't get it working right and it kept colliding into everything

[twilit flicker]

lmao

[spice veldt]

that seems fairly reasonable as a patchwork fix

[twilit flicker]

was sad to realize me and the other psyker were the only long range options with BB

[spice veldt]

ripper ogryn and shotgun/shredder vet?

[twilit flicker]

shredder autopistol vet and grenade launcher ogryn

[spice veldt]

not too terrible at least

[twilit flicker]

it was a regular damnation game on consignment yard

[spice veldt]

o consignment yard

[kind jay]

honestly the amount of pugs i get where i seem to be the only one with armor capability is too damnation high

[rain saddle]

finally melee psyker as the founding fathers intended

[spice veldt]

such is the nature of having BB in our back pocket all the time

[feral verge]

yeah, and it feels great

i can do more damage, and take less damage than zealots

[spice veldt]

once I can make time, I hope to try out a warp absorption illisi

[rain saddle]

i dont run that

slaughter bloodthirsty for me

[feral verge]

if you want max damage, unstable power is the way

[rain saddle]

and meme soulblaze when i get it t4

[snow coral]

christ i have dropped into 3 quick play hi 5 assassinations in a row where the team is just getting wrecked and I have about 10 seconds before I go down lol

[spice veldt]

warp absorption being that 10% toughness regen on warp kill feat

since I'm already insanely aggressive in my games

[rain saddle]

yeah you are tanky

[feral verge]

im considering trying that on my zealot-wannabe build

[spice veldt]

I want to see how much of an idiot I can play into ranged enemies with that feat

[kind jay]

warp absorb illy is hilarious. if youre getting shot at in a horde your toughness bar is just 0 > 100 > 0 > 100 > 0 > 100

[spice veldt]

i expect warp absorption to be extremely busted in finales like silo cluster

ranged enemies spawning? just special the horde next to you for free toughness

though slightly more painful than quietude for pushing across a map

we'll see, though

[north solstice]

i ran warp absorption for a while, it is great on horde clears and such

you almost will never lose all your toughness

but in certain ranged/cover encounters its effectiveness lessens

[nimble burrow]

I have had that happen enough times to consider the following pattern, as I’ve seen it myself.

1: group has poor horde clear or priority management, maybe also can’t stay in coherency

2: One guy is cocky, or unlucky, and gets picked off.

3: Team can’t save em, especially now that they are down one.

4: They spawn so far away and is so early in the mission that it’s not worth sticking around for the “inevitable”. Leaves the game.

5: You join, mid-chaos and low morale. Instawipe in the confusion.

[long wharf]

why Hadron why

[cold geode]

hadron is the cruelest mistress of all

[long wharf]

she really is

[icy hare]

best blessings for surge staff and trauma staff?

[long wharf]

guess I'll slap T4 deflector on that

reroll unarmored -> block efficiency

and it'll replace my previous tank sword

[fierce sinew]

another day, another 5 psykers worth of melk shop devoid of t4 warp nexus

surely soon

surely

[primal plume]

Praise the omnisiah

[south zephyr]

this could be promising

[ember hornet]

[feral verge]

It's a surge staff

[nimble burrow]

It do be surgin

[feral verge]

It doesn't need anything to do what it does

It cannot be bricked

[south zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/this-why-i-cant-have-nice-things-gif-15043173

[north solstice]

I mean they will eventually buff surge to actually deal damage, hopefully

[fierce sinew]

if it did first target damage to everything and hit a more reasonable number of things it could be good without a damage buff

with every """balance""" pass that comes and goes though it seems like it's one of the many things they just don't really think needs to be good

[olive ember]

Like the eviscerator kekw

no vet two psykers

time to be disappointed

I'm using a surge staff too kekw

[kind jay]

melk... so close yet so far

one day youll get your melkbux back

today is not that day

[nimble burrow]

MelkCoin

[long wharf]

Milkies

[cold geode]

melkbux

[long wharf]

Milkies

[cold geode]

that sounds like some award you give you cows

[spice veldt]

that's one way of coping with melk's shop

[nimble burrow]

Brunt > Melk and it's not even close

Me and my m8 brunt go out to the pub after a raid, melk stays at home and yells at his wife to make more crap

[north cradle]

Babe it's midnight, time to make more shiny shit weapons

Yes dear

[twin pond]

not the best stats, but shred + blazing spirit illisi w/ Soulblaze feats is nice. like crit dagger bleed build, but aoe

[viral solstice]

TIME TO STAB

BUT ON FIRE

[north cradle]

Bloodthirsty + Blazing Spirit sounds like a fun time too

[twin pond]

oh yea that sounds dank

[shadow quail]

Still loving melk for giving me this yesterday

[olive ember]

wtf

why does melk love you

but hate me

[cyan portal]

My collection is complete

[orchid shadow]

Oh my god, a team that can stick together actually does exist.

[north cradle]

Alright boys, I got a Ryzen 7 5800X3D to replace my 3700X, wish me luck that I don't bend a pin or something

I'm eager to see the performance gains

[cold geode]

make sure you update your bios before you drop it on

[north cradle]

Yup, the ROG Strix B450-F drivers are up to date

[cold geode]

not drivers, bios, the micro code on the board, make sure the current bios actually supports that chip

other wise you'll have to swap back or do a bios flash using a usb key

[north cradle]

Ah yeh good call

I got 4301 when I should have at least 4801

[cold geode]

not sure in your case, but i had a friend with an asus board that had to update his bios in serial between all the version to new because he couldn't make a bit jump for some reason

[north cradle]

Possibly, because I can't see 5003

I'll just download them all and then use EZFlash as I go along

Well that's not a good sign, I can't even go to 4402

[cold geode]

check the website, see if there is something between your current bios and 4402?

[north cradle]

Nope, before 4402 is 4301

[cold geode]

are you trying to do it in windows?

might need to actually do it in the bios itself from the updater there

[north cradle]

No I'm doing it in my BIOS

[cold geode]

hrm

donno then, call asus?

[north cradle]

Probably

[cold geode]

did you rename the bios file?

the package comes with an exe you have to run to rename it so the bios can see it

[north cradle]

Ack okay

Technology is hard

[cold geode]

yea, i donno why the do the renaming crap, they are the only mfg that does

[north cradle]

Insert xkcd comic about standardising

[cold geode]

or you know, just name all the bios files inside the zip correctly

[north cradle]

Sure would be nice if I could also go back a folder on this thing too

Bleh still nothing

[cold geode]

toss it on a thumb drive maybe?

[north cradle]

Guess so

[cold geode]

it renamed it for me to RX450FGM.CAP, do you see that?

[north cradle]

Ya

I'm throwing them all on to the thumb drive

[cold geode]

also, do you have the b450F or the b450 f 2?

[north cradle]

Former

[cold geode]

cool

[north cradle]

I'm sure of it, I checked the System Information too

[cold geode]

yea, it says it in the bios picture you posted too

[north cradle]

Thumb drive fixed it

[cold geode]

nais

[olive ember]

damn look at that ti-84

its even the plus version

[north cradle]

Plus CE

I could play Doom in colour

[olive ember]

I wish I had such high tech

well I have the old fashioned ti84 but I forget to put batteries in it

so instead I just have the ti-34

[primal plume]

psyker gaming

[viral solstice]

nice outfits

[steel flame]

wow. i just got shredder with inspiring barrage 4

and it fucking sucks

why the fuck is it affected by the damage pause to toughness regen

like wtf

WORTHLESS

[livid dirge]

whats the best force sword now that there are 3 options?

[steel flame]

illi or diemos

illi for hordes, diemos for mobility and oneshots galore

[livid dirge]

👍

[shrewd nest]

And both are good for the other's niche, just not AS good

Illisi is great for hordes, good for single target, deimos is good for hordes, great for single target

Illisi is also great for toughness gen by rubbing one out with quietude or just warp absorption fucking into hordes

[steel flame]

deimos has workable horde clear in lights and slaughter so its real nice on stuff like fire or lightning when you want the oneshots but also might need horde clear

[shrewd nest]

I think surge staff is the BIGGEST contender for loving the illisi

[spice veldt]

cuz it's secretly coherency regen

[steel flame]

that is so fucking stupid

[shrewd nest]

Since it stuns big things in their footsteps but not great for horde clear, while illisi decimates hordes

[spice veldt]

very clear description I know

[steel flame]

WHEN I SHOOT I WANT REGEN FATSHARK

[muted silo]

Not as bad as you think, but not great yes

[spice veldt]

Obscurus is generally overshadowed by the other two force swords now

[steel flame]

WHY IS THAT SO HARD

diemos and illi can both cover for each other so there isnt much need for a middle ground that cant do either as well

[steel flame]

it really needs to work with no delay but is interupted by damage

having a pause that makes the blessing not work period is a farce

[autumn smelt]

finally

finally completed a hi-shock damn

cuz the last time my internet died halfway into the final event

[steel flame]

most of the time the server just breaks half way through and kicks everyone

[north cradle]

The performance is insane

I'm getting an extra 10-20 FPS and my lows are about 50 FPS

[cold geode]

nice

[north cradle]

Let's see how it handles without FSR

[cyan notch]

[autumn smelt]

was kinda sad that i wasnt engaging in it for like 1/3rd tho

mutant grabbed me against a wall and threw me to a ledge within line of sight of 3 gunners and 2 reapers, away from my team

[north cradle]

Oh right I'm playing at 4K so performance is going to drag unless I use lower resolution at fullscreen anyhow

[autumn smelt]

right at the break point to send me to the further spawn

and then a horde and a burgle showed up

[north cradle]

It's Current Year dammit why is there no manual resolution scaling option built in

Didn't Vermintide 2 have a resolution scalar?

[cold geode]

cause it has dlss and fsr

[north cradle]

Guess I'll have to dig up the NVIDIA control panel

4K's not it on this rig lol

[cold geode]

no its built into the game

esc > options > video > peformance

[north cradle]

I'll put it to you this way, I'd prefer using a manually adjusted image scaling instead of FSR

[cold geode]

you dont need to use fsr if you have an nvidia card, you can use dlss

[north cradle]

DLSS introduces ghosting for me

[cold geode]

install the latest dlss dll in the games folder

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/

you can drop it into Steam\steamapps\common\Warhammer 40,000 DARKTIDE\binaries

[olive ember]

now play the real mans gamemode

malice

low int

[cold geode]

been doing that all day getting weeklys done

[ionic frost]

If only this were better...

[nimble burrow]

that rending on weakspot hit for force swords sounds good but what even would be worth using it on

[ionic frost]

It's a trap

brainburst the crushers!

+Power ftw

Too bad brainburst can't proc Superiority... =(

That could be useful...

#MeleeBlessingsApplyToBrainburstFTW?

[nimble burrow]

just had a triple trauma team and we didn't even need to brain burst the crushers

[ionic frost]

I love a 2 trauma psyker team...

3 sounds even better!

50% better!

If one has rending shockwave...you can just melee him after he loses his armor =D

[nimble burrow]

naked crusher

[tiny plinth]

good gods why do i only get slugs when i'm trying to do the 90% health thing

[primal plume]

is this good?

[safe sun]

Surge is very good for voidstrike and useless for everything else. Terrifying barrage is useless and you should replace it

[primal plume]

hows this

[ruby plover]

very good is a strong word

[primal plume]

oops

i dont have the crit one

[ruby plover]

warp nexus is your only choice

for surge

then dont bother using surge

[primal plume]

but is this a good temporary

[ruby plover]

surge with +crit perk and tier 4 warp nexus is still meh

[safe sun]

Yeah. For perks you might consider a +% ranged crit chance roll to proc surge more often

[ruby plover]

without warp nexus not even close to worth

[primal plume]

which ones do i replace?

unyielding?

[safe sun]

depends what you want to focus on, unyielding is things like bulwarks and bosses, maniacs is unarmored ragers, muties, and poxbursters iirc

[ruby plover]

and also almost every other special in the game

replace unyielding 100%

[primal plume]

with crit chance

right?

[spice veldt]

poxbursters are infested

[clear heath]

maniacs are mutants ragers flamers trappers i think

am i missing any?

[tiny plinth]

would anyone mind helping me do the 90% brain burst penance? i'm in vc 5 rn

[spice veldt]

bombers maybe?

[ruby plover]

nah bombers are flak

snipers unarmored

dogs infested ofc

[clear heath]

man it's still so weird to me that both flamers are maniac

one of them looks very flak

but isn't

literally 2 copies of the exact same enemy

[ruby plover]

i remember the first time i saw a flamer i was like cool they made it green so you dont confuse it with your teammates fire

[tiny plinth]

then your health bar starts turning purple

[shadow quail]

Bruh still no darktide,

[clear heath]

the "armored" flamor has like no reason to exist

should just delete it or make it flak

[shadow quail]

Me annoying my friends at 4am to play darktide

[spice veldt]

what terrible friends

[shadow quail]

Yes

[magic hull]

me buying them darktide and they never play it with me

[shrewd nest]

Feeeeel that

[ruby plover]

i only have one friend who play and he blow himself up every mission

still love him doe

[shadow quail]

I console myself with this sword

[shrewd nest]

Need more people to play with, got 2 baby friends who are still leveling to rarely play, and 2 that do damnation but...I damn sure lose those games much more than solo...and they always blame the 4th guy...

[ruby plover]

80 warp res

[shadow quail]

hater

[ruby plover]

simply suboptimal

[tiny plinth]

more sword strokage

[shadow quail]

takes like 2 seconds to stroke my sword

[shrewd nest]

Got me a deimos with like 80 everything but warp which is at like 22

chad shit

[magic hull]

meta players when it is A+ tier instead of S tier

[shadow quail]

Melk is throwing great shit at me lately, everyone else?

[primal plume]

I got a BiS surge staff the other week from him

[shadow quail]

I feel he got buffed lol

[primal plume]

this thing is pogggy

[shadow quail]

I got like 5 cyclers in 2 weeks on vet

[shrewd nest]

The Melk man™️ hasn't been giving me much of late

I got a surge like that, but still gotta wait on warp nexus (and apparently wait for it to stop being bugged at the moment)

[near wyvern]

? Warp Nexus seems to work

[shrewd nest]

I forget where I heard it other than it being a youtube vid saying that I think it was surge being bugged to sometimes not do damage, I'm not sure how authentic that is

It was Claysthetics on youtube who I heard mention it https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxx_xu9kd5QUck6Xen1T2g722QDUS7LmAo

Really trying to scrape a decent voidstrike and trauma together, moreso the latter, got at least a t3 blazing spirit on a staff, but got not 1 staff with a blessing to write home about otherwise

[orchid shadow]

Is Flak and Manic still the go to on the Shredder?

[shrewd nest]

Sure would be good, I don't see it being much else

[autumn smelt]

bro...

[steel flame]

Hmmmmmmmm how does essence harvest treat quicken warp charges? I guess it treats it as a single activation right?

[shrewd nest]

Pretty sure

[steel flame]

To be fair he was getting shot so the rez might not have gone through anyway

[autumn smelt]

i thought it was only melee damage that cancels the rez

[golden tartan]

If toughness breaks rez cancels

[steel flame]

Shooting always cancels with toughness break

[golden tartan]

But he had grenades

SOoo

Skissue

[steel flame]

That too

[orchid shadow]

Nope, bullets can definitely stop you if you have no more toughness

[autumn smelt]

either way, he later on stopped a free rez to kill 1 poxwalker

[spice veldt]

any type of stagger will cancel rezzes

[autumn smelt]

which turned into a horde

which turned into a loss

[steel flame]

[golden tartan]

How 2 green circle chase.

Allies that are suppressed, disabled, downed or dead arent doing damage, thus leaving more damage for you 😛

[spice veldt]

very true

sprint efficiency as well

simply alt f4 the game the moment you go down and repeat

[steel flame]

Yessir

[autumn smelt]

green circle?

[golden tartan]

Basically topping the scoreboard

[steel flame]

Vermintide addage

[golden tartan]

Kek

[autumn smelt]

ah

yeah never played vermi

[golden tartan]

Its subconscious for a lot of players tbh

[clear heath]

Make sure to always steal the kills of your teammates too

Enemy about to be headpopped? Kill them first

[golden tartan]

If you wanna get the most green circles, just do the following few steps.

1. Always run ahead. The player who runs ahead gets fresh spawns, which means more things to do damage to, which means more damage. Do not wait for your allies, this means they get to steal your damage.

2. Do not help allies, allies that are suppressed, pinned, or downed are not doing damage, and thus leaving more damage on the board for you. It also lets you seem that you are carrying when they die/get downed.

3. Always gobble ammo, the one who takes the most ammo does the most damage. Thus by taking all the ammo, not only are you maximizing your damage, but you are also minimizing your allies' thus leaving more for you and letting you get more damage!

4. Always shoot enemies in melee with allies first. Those are the enemies your allies are going to kill next, so kill them first. The shooters 20m away are not going to be meleed by them anytime soon, and will suppress your allies, so they cant do damage, thus leaving more on the table for you.

5. If you are a vet, run camo. Camo puts more pressure on your allies and takes pressure off you, thus allowing you to do more damage and force your allies to be more suppressed and unable to push.

6. "Accidentally" shoot barrels and poxbursters near allies. Lower health allies are more likely to play conseratively and do less damage.

101 class of how to green circle chase 😛

[clear heath]

Bulwark with max stacks of burn and about to burn to death? Better focus that immediately

[golden tartan]

I've seen players deliberately do all 6 of the above to varying degrees

[spice veldt]

shame I can't really do 4

[golden tartan]

😛

[formal flume]

Lol

[golden tartan]

Run trauma

Explode on top of your ally

[autumn smelt]

was gifted this game from a warhammer-fan family member so i would play with him
and now im doing damnation runs on the regular

[spice veldt]

no i'm too far away from my allies to killsteal

[autumn smelt]

how i have fallen

[golden tartan]

This has the added bonus of possibly causing a GPU hang, thus causing your teammate to crash and invalidating their damage

[steel flame]

Don't forget to shoot poxbursters your allies are about to push

[golden tartan]

This

Definitely this

[autumn smelt]

i aint gonna lie i wanna go into sedition and try this a little bit

[golden tartan]

[autumn smelt]

not for the green circles

just to be an asshole

[steel flame]

Barely anything to kill in sedition

[golden tartan]

Tbf on sedition a lot of these arent that annoying

Cos enemies arent a threat

[autumn smelt]

so if i kill everything before anyone else can, they dont get a chance to kill anything

[golden tartan]

[steel flame]

Do it to the malice or heresy scrubs

[clear heath]

new minigame
get a teammate's damage dealt as close to 0 as possible

[spice veldt]

do it with a warp absorption illisi build

simply run into every group of ranged enemies and succeed every DPS check

[steel flame]

So much overkill damage

Man when you get high peril WU, Unstable, max warp charges, 5 slaughter stacks and special going it's just way more melee damage than you really need

And I love it

[digital loom]

do weapon perks affect blaze stacks

[steel flame]

Yessir

[digital loom]

guess i'll put flak on then

[steel flame]

Whatever weapons is out is what your soulblaze will take bonuses from

Blessings included

[digital loom]

can blaze crit?

[steel flame]

No

Fire staff applies extra stack on a crit though so crit chance on it is still very nice

[summer prairie]

surge+nexus void is actually better single target dps than flurry+transfer peril with a perfect macro. I think it's ideal to quell a single tick after every shot since you waste time cancelling anyway

[digital loom]

i finally got a sword to roll natural blaze

[steel flame]

Too bad nothing will catch fire because it will all get oneshot

[digital loom]

second attack is normal

to apply crit

then you special kill them and the fire spreads so on and so forth

sad that i wont be able to one shot mutants with 6 stacks anymore but we'll see how it goes

[steel flame]

Just remember wild fire splits the stacks between nearby enemies so an enemy that dies with 2 stacks will spread 1 stack to two enemies only

It won't add much damage but it will allow you to get warp charges from AB with just melee

Just trying to set your expectations accordingly

[cyan notch]

mid

[blazing oak]

Finally did Pick n’ Mix… I am FREE

[idle bay]

Only on Psyker - there are still bullshit penances on 3 other classes 🙂

[blazing oak]

Time to go do zealot penance

[forest coral]

zealot penances are most tame

and actually kinda fun to do

[fierce sinew]

Don't have to worry about other class penances if you make a full psyker roster in vain hope at getting relevant melk items

[primal plume]

which is overall better

[fierce sinew]

:^)

[primal plume]

Either old or a liar

I just tested it

thats not what happens

[spice veldt]

could be old

there was a bug report about flurry preventing the last tick from dealing damage on the fatshark forums last patch

[shrewd nest]

Sure aont unligke

[ruby karma]

Hoe likely are we to get a rework?

[golden tartan]

Rework for what?

The class?

[shrewd nest]

Ain't unlikely* Was in the middle of being picked up mid game when I typed that

[shadow quail]

Trying to get my friends to play

[olive ember]

eh my friends stopped playing the game

feelsbadman

oh well

I just get to enjoy the pug experience

https://tenor.com/view/diplein-rubens-hide-the-pain-museum-masterpiece-gif-18417428

[cyan notch]

get new friends

[digital loom]

yeah this sword combo ok

doesnt really shine unless high intensity

[kind jay]

not likely at all. psyker is in a very good state

if anything we'll get nerfed (again)

[fallow falcon]

This thing is basically useless, isn't it?

Great stats but lmao perks and blessing

[cold geode]

oof

[idle bay]

Cosecrations like this is the reason i stopped crafting.

[mossy path]

oops accidentally made this and got t4 unstable the same day

[digital loom]

yeah deimos really is the best

anything that can delete a mutant is automatically bis

[mossy path]

Auto delete crushers

[digital loom]

overall fire sword is a pretty good meme

but i still prefer deimos

[mossy path]

Trauma to stagger all 6 crushers and heavy special headshots and everything is dead

[radiant lance]

How big of a difference does Pinning Fire 4 make vs 3?

[spice veldt]

25% power right? so about a 33% relative damage/stagger/cleave difference assuming you have no other power bonuses

[digital loom]

that's weird

why does my power sword look like this

force sword

is there a skin i dont know about

[radiant lance]

Wow.

[radiant lance]

Didn't know 25% power translates to 33% damage

[spice veldt]

oh oops

I meant that the relative increase from 75% to 100% is 1.33x

[radiant lance]

Oh, ok

[spice veldt]

e.g., 0.75 * 1.33 = 1.00

[radiant lance]

Then I guess I won't bother getting Pinning Fire 3 from Melk's

Will just wait until RNGesus gives me 4

(F*ck this system)

[shadow quail]

Can I be your friend

[mossy path]

Agreed

[shadow quail]

I have an excellent bug where every channel shows me this meme

[viral solstice]

its an agri ix

so it doesnt really matter whats on it

yeah its not functional

[digital loom]

headhunters are all shit, but that one is one you shouldn't use

i suppose with the salvo blessings it might be better since its burst fire anyway

but you will only have disappointment

[pearl lion]

My squadmates: Ew dont touch my psyker
All the people on the ship: O senpai uwu

[ashen sphinx]

yeah its the mortis operative one. I think its the one for preordering the game 🙂

[valid marsh]

Is sustained fire good?

[twilit badger]

Trash

[valid marsh]

guess I'll have to look for yet another high stat shredder auto

[twilit badger]

Just craft decent rolled whites to blue ones till it gets blaze away

[fallow falcon]

Is this thing any good or "lol lmao use a force sword instead"

[viral solstice]

well its a devil claw with 2 stagger blessings

if it was a devil claw with 2 damage blessings it wouldnt exist because devil claw doesnt have 2 damage blessings but if we imagine a world where such a thing exists the force sword would still be better

this is the sad nature of the devil claw

[fallow falcon]

Earn the blessing it is

[viral solstice]

vicious slice tooltip used to say "8% damage per enemy hit"

i bug reported it was stagger in the lua

and they just changed the tooltip to stagger

the devil claw is the weapon with the most impact blessings in the game.

it has 4

it has 1 damage blessing.

thats kind of inspirational

[spice veldt]

a CC melee weapon shared by all human-sized classes

[proper tusk]

What is a good staff to go for?

[spice veldt]

the city atop the hill

all four staffs are good, depending on what you're looking for

[viral solstice]

whichever staff u like tbh they do diff things so it really isnt like they compete

all of them are usable

[proper tusk]

Thank you.

[viral solstice]

so really just go with the one that does stuff u like

theyre all probs getting buffed too

[spice veldt]

just that none of our current staffs have any burst DPS ranged capabilities

[viral solstice]

over next few months

[summer prairie]

purg is good no matter what stats/blessings it rolls

[viral solstice]

because they have basically no blessings and some broken stuff so expect whatever you choose to probs go up in pwoer rather than down

[proper tusk]

Im liking the flame staff. Just gotta find some blessings,

[viral solstice]

for that one just gotta know taht crit makes it apply 2 burns instead of 1

so crit stuff not bad on it even tho it looks like it should be

[proper tusk]

Oh I didnt know that thank you.

[viral solstice]

so really all u need is warp nexus and a hatred for all living things

[spice veldt]

rare instance of crit being interesting

[primal plume]

Which staff is better

[river sand]

probably the surge one. but masterrace is flurry + transfer peril

[twilit badger]

Right one

Left one is subpar

Right one, you could do quell cancelling

And kill shooters quite fast in theory

[olive ember]

Alright so

Right one is better technically since surge and warp nexus synergize + better stats and and perks

but neither of em are like amazing

since surge blessing + nexus was an off off-meta funny meme build

and yeah as kharvor stated above you want flurry + transfer peril

[slate oasis]

how important is the mobility stat on a deimos? I got one with 79 and 80 in every stat except mobility which is 45

[twilit badger]

Not much

Since FS gets unlimited dodge

Dodge distance affected but far as i know the difference was nominal

[spice veldt]

the deimos has pretty good dodge distance scaling, so a low mobil stat on the deimos mostly affects the sprint speed

doesn't hurt to have more mobility, but I wouldn't consider it too much of a dealbreaker

[twilit badger]

On deimos the dump stat is warp resistance

Mobility is second dump stat

[radiant lance]

Is 25% vs flak worth it on Deimos?

[twilit badger]

No

[fallow falcon]

Can I reasonably proceed with upgrading this weapon or does it need 2 specific perks?

[twilit badger]

You already pokes everything with one shot

[radiant lance]

What perks should I get on Deimos then?

[twilit badger]

On the head

[radiant lance]

I have 25% vs Unyielding, maybe 25% vs maniac?

[twilit badger]

Already one shots all maniacs except mutant i believe

[radiant lance]

so... what should I get? lol

[twilit badger]

Unyielding/Carapace maybe

[summer prairie]

flak and maniac are best

[spice veldt]

dreg ragers don't get one-shot by the 2nd heavy

[twilit badger]

With 6 warp charges?

[spice veldt]

I don't know about 6, but I do 1058 weakspot damage to maniac with 4 warp charges and 80/80/80 dmg/fin/ft at 0% peril

[twilit badger]

Idk i used it with 6 charges + force wpn dmg feats

[summer prairie]

no one is always going to sit at 100 peril and 6 stacks at every situation

[twilit badger]

Seemed pretty much one shots almost everything

[spice veldt]

though it's nice to reach that breakpoint more easily

[twilit badger]

Even at 0 peril it still gives you 10% dmg

[spice veldt]

yeah, I had warp unleashed on

ragers having 1350 HP

[summer prairie]

There are a bunch of convenient flak breakpoints, at least scab rager and mauler L1 special bodyshots

[spice veldt]

you'll need a 27.6% damage boost from some source to get to 1350 from 1058 the latter of which was obtained with 4 warp charges, 80/80/80 dmg/fin/ft, and 0% peril WU

[radiant lance]

so I see the jury's still out

is 25% vs unyielding any good btw?

[spice veldt]

flak and maniac is always a safe bet

not really

[next blade]

close to perfect

[radiant lance]

And if I have to pick one?

[spice veldt]

unless you want to kill plogryns, daemonhosts, bulwarks, and reapers faster

I'd personally prefer maniac over flak

since mutants are sort of a time check on you

[radiant lance]

Makes sense

[sage widget]

Yeah Mutants are on top of priority charts. Like any other disablers.

And they are the ones AI directory likes to spam the most

[pearl lion]

Behold siblings

[sage widget]

Trust me that 25% maniac boost is NEVER wasted. Flamers, Trappers and Mutants are very high on the HVT boatd

[pearl lion]

Drip

[olive ember]

Aye congrats

[fallow falcon]

Think this can still be good?

[pearl lion]

Yeah thats pretty good

Transfer peril is excellent on VS

Good stats

Just kinda poo perks

Current vs

[fallow falcon]

Was oneshotting flak enemies with 6 warp charges, so maybe unarmoured to clean up the others?

[pearl lion]

new

New is better yeah?

[olive ember]

Get rid of exorcist and grab unstable or deflector or wte and you are basically golden

[cyan notch]

yes new is better

[onyx frigate]

Isn't crit damage bad? I last read it does literally nothing since it does not interact with soulblaze. Was that changed? Otherwise nice staff.

[next blade]

@onyx frigateif you only got crit damage

i got warp nexus thats other story

[drowsy slate]

Is there a chart or something what counts as what? Is infested and unarmored possible to get bonus damage on same enemy? Like Poxwalker? He is unarmored and infested right?

[olive ember]

Crit damage is pbad on purge

It’s pretty bad in general actually

You don’t build crit damage on anything

[lucid olive]

all the numbers of crit damage are 10x too small

[olive ember]

Idr where but there was like some graphics

[lucid olive]

in fact, even 10x larger, it still won't be good

[drowsy slate]

Yes also think crit damage or/and crit chance is way to low

[olive ember]

You run warp nexus because crit applies two stacks of burn not for the direct damage

In fact it’s exemplified by the fact that warp nexus is neither meta on voidstrike or trauma because crit doesn’t do much for em

[spice veldt]

poxwalkers are infested; Groaner's are Unarmoured
Perk bonuses depends on the part of the body you hit

[drowsy slate]

I think a crit oriented build would be nice with voidstrike and surge but you get crit chance not higher then 30% so you get around 30% damage buff by sacrificing a lot. For a random modifier it’s way to low

[olive ember]

Purge and surge the burn applies to their body armor type

Crit voidstrike is off meta

Funny meme build

Surge it’s meta because crit provides more stagger/CC

[drowsy slate]

I think it’s sad that it is

[spice veldt]

and it's not exactly a 30% damage buff because our staffs have terrible crit damage multipliers

[olive ember]

Voidstrike has a base crit of 5% so if you want to run a crit voidstrike with decent crit chance you would need to take nexus

[spice veldt]

e.g., on the trauma, a crit is only 50 more damage or so higher than normal on the secondary

[drowsy slate]

Surge on voidstrike gives you an additional shot so every crit is a bit more then double damage. But still not enough

[olive ember]

Which would mean you would have to forgo either warp flurry or transfer peril

[spice veldt]

though I think pygex remarked on warp nexus blazing spirit being good

[olive ember]

Was good

They nerfed soulblaze flak dmg

And even then it was an off-meta build pre nerf

[drowsy slate]

So voidstrike crit surge is lower dps just in raw numbers and when you consider that crit void needs to quell it gets even worse

[olive ember]

Basically

Either you have to quell with crit void or you fire slower

And if you are building full crit void you don’t do either

Because a full crit void is warp nexus + blazing spirit or warp nexus + surge

No room for flurry or transfer peril

[drowsy slate]

It’s just a shame tbh

[olive ember]

Unless you wanna rely on the 5% crit but then what’s the point

I mean I’m fairly happy in a sense

[summer prairie]

voidstrike crit surge is higher dps against single target but only if you macro, but when you cleave you are more likely to waste your extra dps than with flurry

[olive ember]

Since both blazing spirit and surge are fairly rare blessings

[drowsy slate]

Yes and the crit chance needs to be higher for that. I don’t think that 20% per stack would be op tbh

[olive ember]

Means I don’t have to finish

Depends on how you play tbh, but rn with how fast quelling is everyone is aiming to float around 60 peril

So idek

[next blade]

crit chance will stack after you attack

[olive ember]

Crit chance is fine

Crit dmg is bad that’s p much it tbh

Like on trauma I believe when you crit you do like 50 extra dmg

Even with 10% crit damage

[drowsy slate]

Crit chance would make surge blessing and blazing spirit viable so it would be fine

[olive ember]

That’s 55 extra dmg instead of 50 extra when you crit

[drowsy slate]

So you only build crit for that I think it would be cool

[olive ember]

I mean they are viable just not meta

[drowsy slate]

I testet with that

Feels like you play without blessings

[olive ember]

Oh yeah

Prob more noticeable with blazing spirit than surge tho

[drowsy slate]

Yes but the soul blaze stacks are not enough

With full crit build on high peril you crit like every third shot

For a whopping 2 stacks?

[olive ember]

It’s for wildfire and AB

Typically when you run a crit blazing spirit build you are also running wildfire and AB

Makes generating stacks easier

And then you can use AB once you get enough stacks

But yeah

Off meta

But def viable

[drowsy slate]

Don’t think so tbh

It’s flashy but not really viable

[olive ember]

I mean almost everything is viable imo

Viable is a super low bar

It’s “can you beat Damnation with this loadout”

And not actively trolling or hard carried

[drowsy slate]

Ok maybe we need to clarify what viable means 😅

[olive ember]

But yeah Damnation is ez enough where as long as you aren’t like being hard carried you are fine so

That’s the baseline

Then it’s if the build is actually good and not just a meme

And then it’s if it’s competing as a meta build

I haven’t used voidstrike enough in general but ik even a crit voidstrike is viable as for how good

Prob would have to ask someone who runs it

[drowsy slate]

Ok in that case i would like to see the crit builds get meta builds too. Just buff enough to be good

[olive ember]

Maybe but I doubt they will be good anytime soon

Crit is just

Not important at all

Would require either a rework of crit or some overtuned BS that makes the staves crit every hit

At which point it would be weird for the other staves

[drowsy slate]

Surge blessing is just so unique it’s a chame it’s a lot worse then passive quell flurry voidstrike

[olive ember]

Since warp nexus is a blessing on every staff

And yeah they would need to increase surge drop chance too tho

[drowsy slate]

Just buff crit blessing percentage to t4 15% maybe 20% don’t think 100% crit rate would be that overturned on staffs

[olive ember]

Cuz rn surge is super rare so if it became meta it would be annoying af to get

It is 20% unless you mean 20% per stack

[drowsy slate]

Don’t know why? It wouldn’t be better then passive quell flurry it just would be different

[drowsy slate]

Yes per stack

[olive ember]

I mean with fatshark balancing their balance changes are either zero effect or heavy handed AF

20% per stack is kinda overboard

[drowsy slate]

That’s true

[olive ember]

Since it would be

[drowsy slate]

Why

[olive ember]

80% at full stacks + 5% inmate + you could roll 5% crit chance

It would be a 90% chance to crit

[drowsy slate]

I think even 100% wouldn’t be better then flurry quell staff

[olive ember]

Dunno you would have to see how good surge or blazing spirit is compared to just

Transfer peril and flurry

It would make something like surge and purge ridiculous tho

I’m also not a fan of tuning up stats for one blessing if it’s a blessing shared on multiple weapons

[drowsy slate]

That’s a problem I must admit

[olive ember]

Like zealot hsword headtaker got buffed so it’s 15% per stack but it’s in this weird place where it’s literally just better slaughterer since it procs on hit instead of on kill

And yeah it’s weird cuz normally headtaker is only 5% per stack up to 5 stacks so it’s worse than slaughterer but then because they buffed it specifically for hsword it’s just weird

Anyways I’m rambling and it’s like 6 am I should go sleep lmao

[drowsy slate]

😂

I think the change to 20% per stack would be fine and not overturned but we’ll …. We will see what happen I don’t think that will change 😅

[late yew]

hm, i don't hjave warp flurry on purg

but on other hand, i don't like it much...

[onyx frigate]

if you don't like using warp flurry then don't bother, there's not much point, it's fine as is, although I prefer warp flurry myself

if it was at least rank 4 I would personally consider it if I didn't have it

[twilit badger]

Tbh flurry on purg didn't do much

At least in my experience

Warp nexus is mandatory for purg i think

[late yew]

What is wrong with me if i like surge the most

[late yew]

not flurry, i don't like purg

[onyx frigate]

Oh.

Well I dunno then, it's not like you have to use it. Could just use trauma for your horde clearing - or not be the team's janitor at all.

[late yew]

Good base, or too low blast?

[drowsy slate]

Blast radius doesn’t do much I think it’s worth a try

Dream would be blast radius and quell speed changed. Worst stat on every staff is quell speed. It’s not needed

[summer prairie]

if you want to stay at high peril at all times, the high quell speed lets you quell precisely for one or two ticks and still do a full charge. That's about it for the benefits

but that's for non-flurry setups

[frail berry]

Doh, I am leveling alt psykers to farm melk shop, totally forgot that the items are still low level until 30 😦

[lean badge]

fellas, need help with this one, milkman came through with the blessings but not so much for the stats.

[digital loom]

blast radius doesnt shift too much with percentage

its only interesting if you intend to make blaze stacks with staff

i still dont have surge

sad

[lean badge]

was thinking of ripping the item and just get surge blessing but what are the chances ill get the same combination blessings. should i just re-roll the perk to crit chance to compensate dmg?

[digital loom]

stats arent that bad

if it does big damage in the first place the slider wont change much

[summer prairie]

the damage doesn't particularly matter

[digital loom]

imo use it for now but continue trying for a better statted staff

then slap surge onto that staff

[summer prairie]

roll infested to crit and it's good

[digital loom]

yea

[lean badge]

sweet! thanks guys, just started playing psyker and never knew this blessing existed.

[cyan notch]

it might as well not lmao

where surge buff

[late yew]

surge works with right click?

[digital loom]

how would i know, i dont have it yet

[hybrid solstice]

I would take surge since warp nexus at least drops in other tiers

[lean badge]

surge blessing, yeah, works with right click charge.

[scarlet timber]

whats the ubild

on tramua staff?

for feats and bleisngs and perks?

[inland sand]

i run 2-2-1-1-1-3 on Trauma

Unarmoured, Flak, Carapace best perks in that they do things. Perks are not super important on the weapon as with 6 WCs it hits the BPs you need it to

Blessings, Flurry and either Rending Shockwave to help your team or Focused Channelling

Play very aggressively, just finished a High Intensity Shock Gauntlet Damnation with this exact build and it felt amazing. Trauma staff gets better the more enemies there are in the game

[drowsy slate]

I would get it

Keep it for the blessings

[scarlet timber]

unarmored?

not manaic?

okay can i run trauma and deimos?

or do i need ellisie for waveclear?

[inland sand]

definitely unarmoured

[scarlet timber]

so im guessing i do manaic and flak on deimos then

[inland sand]

You only need Maniac on Demios

it one shots all flak already

actually post your deimos it is modifier dependent

[cyan notch]

unarmoured 1 shots dregs and flak 1 shots scabs so those are pretty nice on trauma

[inland sand]

it will already one shot all flak shooter enemies at max charge with no WC

but Flak matters vs Maulers

and using the left click for headshot

[scarlet timber]

i mean otehr than flak what then?

[inland sand]

on sword or staff?

[scarlet timber]

deimos

i thought its good to do flak and manaic

[inland sand]

on sword, Carpace, weak spot and Block are all good second pics after Maniac

hold on a swec

let me show u my deimos

[scarlet timber]

okay

the old force sword is usless now isnt it?

[inland sand]

it's definitely the worst of the 3

so this Deimos hits 1SBPS vs everything except crushers

[scarlet timber]

i see okay

thats busted

wtf

[inland sand]

needs 4 warp charges vs Maniacs

err sorry

[scarlet timber]

i see

[inland sand]

unarmoured ragers

and 6 warp charges vs Mutie and needs to be headshot

[scarlet timber]

okay... holy shiit

[inland sand]

but u can get that down to 5 with 25 vs Maniac

[summer prairie]

everything except ogryns in general you mean

[inland sand]

one shots maulers to body with 4 WC

[cyan notch]

varies with ur peril

[inland sand]

no

it doesn't

i use peril reistance

in trauma build

[cyan notch]

oh then yea

[inland sand]

all BPs are with sword stats and WCs

so basically with the second perk

[scarlet timber]

going from ogryn to pskyer all these numbvers go makes my brain hurt xD

[inland sand]

u either want Carapce/weakspot for the 2 headshot crusher BP

at 6 WCs

[scarlet timber]

okay i see

[inland sand]

OR

[scarlet timber]

how often should i be brain bursting then?

[inland sand]

and I think this is probably better

[scarlet timber]

to gain charges?

[inland sand]

block efficiency

for deflector and Kinetic block efffectiveness

[inland sand]

when you need to

[scarlet timber]

okay

[inland sand]

get your warp charges to 6 early

Psychic COmmunion keeps em topped up

[scarlet timber]

so i need slaughtere and delfecter on this sword then?

[inland sand]

use your F with Kinetic Barrage to reup stacks fast and kill priority targets fast

Deflector yes

Slaughterer can be whatever

Unstable power is good too

I think Deflector is one of the best blessings in the whole game

the ceiling on it is high

[scarlet timber]

i thoguth slatheter was bad

cuz you wont be using your sword for horde clear

you be using your staff

[inland sand]

it's not mandatory but it's not bad

sometimes you'll have your sword out and have to fight with it

[scarlet timber]

okay so on deimos i go unstable power

and delfecter then and i go carapce/maniac

[inland sand]

Unstable pwoer is good, means you can hit the crusher BP without Carapace

[scarlet timber]

what is my dump stat on deimos?

[inland sand]

Warp Res/mobility

[scarlet timber]

oh okay then

tehn i dont need carapce

what do i run? xD

[inland sand]

you have maniac already?

[scarlet timber]

yes

[inland sand]

Block Eff then

[scarlet timber]

25% okay

[inland sand]

perfect

[scarlet timber]

this is first time i seeen block efficency...

used on any class

xD

[inland sand]

it's amazing on the Psyker because it interacts with Kinetic Deflection

and the Deflector blessing

but you don't always have the luxury of taking it on the sword

Deimos is just so fucking GOATed though

post your Deimos

modifiers in the 3 relevant bars do need to be high to hit the BPs i've mentioned

hope you don't mind, I sent u a handy vid on this subject as well @scarlet timber

via DM

feel free to ignore if u don't care

[scarlet timber]

thx

i be honest... pskyer was my least favourite class on release

but now it seems way more fun

way less squishyn ow

and also with the new force swords

it can actually melee

btw is the old force sword jsut uselss dogshit now?

didnt it get buff

on relase of other two?

[cold geode]

It's not dog shit. It's just middle of the road meh

[gilded viper]

Think all the fs are good

Tho old one have a unique taste if u ask me

[leaden thunder]

the old one is probably worse then the other two

but it's like

still better thne a lot of weapons

[gilded viper]

Claw

[leaden thunder]

since it can roll sluaghterer

[gilded viper]

Slaughter single handling making anything better

[leaden thunder]

pretty much

[primal fjord]

When Melk sends a angel and you have to sacrifice it, for the greater good. 🧐

Dought I'll find another good Deimos/Illisi candidate, but it can upgrade others more.

[faint vault]

That's life. Grats on slaughterer 4!

[cloud sequoia]