I love unstable power
#psyker-class
olive ember
rancid burrow
That's each 1%
hollow spindle
Unstable Power is fucking great
olive ember
thats what they get for not taking deflector
ember hornet
That's each *1%*
4 x 1 = 4 so still wrong
humble saddle
thats what they get for not taking *deflector*
deflector lmao
hollow spindle
deflector is for losers
ember hornet
it's 4x5%
humble saddle
deflector is something you can easily compensate by being more skilled
cyan notch
That's each *1%*
u can do the math its more than 1% increment per stack
olive ember
well I use deflector so >.>
rancid burrow
I'm talking about T3 unstable which goes to 4$
humble saddle
no need to
ember hornet
and surge 
ember hornet
T3 unstable is 16% power
olive ember
best staff in game
rancid burrow
One stack is what scales to on e percent
hollow spindle
well I use deflector so >.>
Maybe there should be a camp for people like you...you know to get readjusted into reality?
cyan notch
One stack is what scales to on e percent
its not tho look at the numbers
rancid burrow
I'm literally looking at them right now
cyan notch
your damage numbers
ember hornet
dude you are wrong lol, we have all been trolling discord and testing and looking at the code for waaaay too long
olive ember
Maybe there should be a camp for people like you...you know to get readjusted in...
smh you see a slab shield is shit because the shield sucks, a deflector FS is great because the FS can actually kill things
ember hornet
just believe us
rancid burrow
It's a 100 damage increase out of base 1000
humble saddle
why block the bullets when you can dodge infinitely
cloud sequoia
just believe us
no no he's got a point, unstable need buff
hollow spindle
why block the bullets when you can dodge infinitely
THIS FUCKING THING RIGHT HERE.
olive ember
because funny random shotgun event
hollow spindle
why block the bullets when you can dodge infinitely
Good man. You deserve a medal.
humble saddle
dodge
olive ember
also because sometimes certain... individuals... like to die in the open
cloud sequoia
Makes it 20% per stack 
olive ember
and yeah
ember hornet
Imagine if they buffed unstable on illisi
rancid burrow
just believe us
I'll believe people who aren't pricks
ember hornet
everything would be a 1 shot
humble saddle
if they die in open, they die in open
ember hornet
I'll believe people who aren't pricks
you are the one being a prick
hollow spindle
pricks? They're just telling you that you are wrong
ember hornet
so don't let the door hit you on the way out
long wharf
*offended
cloud sequoia
I'll believe people who aren't pricks
"Siblings i have the biggest brain here and you all are wrong" ~you
olive ember
anyways time to see what psyker chat 2 is doing
hollow spindle
Some people just need to grow a spine holy crap
twilit flicker
I guess we're wrong smh
hollow spindle
I don't hate the dude I just feel pbad for him
cyan notch
i told him to verify it for himself by looking at the damage numbers
ember hornet
back to finding the next most toxic conversation in a different chat
kind jay
can we go back to badmouthing surge? it'll never get buffed at this rate
olive ember
back to finding the next most toxic conversation in a different chat
Smh just go around claiming psword is useless
hollow spindle
can we go back to badmouthing surge? it'll never get buffed at this rate
Yes please
olive ember
kick up some dirt
ember hornet
derpy would be happy if they buffed surge, so no
humble saddle
say power sword deserves another nerf
twilit flicker
Illisi needs a nerf
ember hornet
I'm so tired of the psword bit at this point
ember hornet
been like a week of it lol
hollow spindle
please send help
kind jay
yeah but derpy has a midterm coming up so there will be suffering one way or another
cyan notch
and I see blooddrunk
twilit flicker
But only if power swords get double nerf
hollow spindle
veterans are the worst class
we dont have anything
I'm sorry.
Veterans still piss on every single class in this game and it's the truth
be bathed in our holy juice of gunfire
twilit flicker
I played with three vets and lost on coms plex finale, you know the one ppl joke how easy it is?
hollow spindle
coms plex is one of the hardest missions lmao
humble saddle
I played with three vets and lost on coms plex finale, you know the one ppl joke...
it just not possibl
olive ember
yeah but derpy has a midterm coming up so there will be suffering one way or ano...
well
spice veldt
do people joke about the commsplex finale?
kind jay
rofl
twilit flicker
I'll take the loss though, my fault even though I was the one doing the objective and literally couldn't fight
hollow spindle
@olive ember Derpy stop doing drugs
olive ember
i legit emailed one of em and they were like "yeah so i'm not holding the exam, but maybe you should go just in case they send in a substitute"
hollow spindle
they arent healthy
spice veldt
the finale can be pretty rough with shooter spawns all around
olive ember
but the TA's are also on strike
spice veldt
and the doors that are right next to players
olive ember
so idk who tf they are substituting for an exam lmao
cyan notch
strike for what
cyan notch
isnt that good
olive ember
I mean Its a bit sucky for the peopel who rly rly care about their grades cuz obviously it throws the whole thing into whack but
eh
twilit flicker
Yeah we got fucked by triple shotgunners and a mutant when two of the vets were off in different corners by themselves.
hollow spindle
Well it sucks for the people who are teaching you
so give them a chance to fight for their right
hollow spindle
liberal is another word for failure
cyan notch
people complaining about $15 per hour just for being a TA?
olive ember
Idk the details but something about unfair wages n stuff
feral verge
I'll believe people who aren't pricks
unstable power does indeed stack 4x, with t4 netting you 20% power at 80% or higher peril
cold geode
if minimum wage scaled properly with inflation it would be between 23-25 an hour
feral verge
damage results from a regular damnation game
using this sword
on a high peril build
with unstable 4
olive ember
its hilarious tho
cuz I only heard one professor talking about the strike beforehand
and suddenly apparently they novted for it to go through yesterday
blazing oak
When I see this end game theorizing about what is most optimal sometimes I wonder what I’m doing here because I don’t care about that
clear heath
damage results from a regular damnation game
wow 0 bosses killed
such a weak weapon
olive ember
even the fucking online class I have
cold geode
generally you don't want to talk openly about a strike before hand
cyan notch
what happens to the term schedule
olive ember
no clue
blazing oak
The point of the strike is to screw up the things they do
olive ember
it legit just got voted on to go through and today was first day in affect
only thing Ik is that the midterms I barely studied for got pushed back half a week at the earliest so
its a good thing for me XD
blazing oak
So that the people in charge change things for the better before the damage is too much
clear heath
generally you don't want to talk openly about a strike before hand
I've had reoccuring strikes happen back in highschool before. They usually told us in advance
it seemed to just be a reoccuring thing
blazing oak
Or in America the government tells you to get back to the railroads
clear heath
like every year or so
cyan notch
wtf
olive ember
I mean its this weird like thing where the union held like open sessions or wte so almost everyone knew wtf was going on
cyan notch
was there much disruption
olive ember
apparently 94% of union members voted to strike
olive ember
atleast thats the number that was thrown around
and most of the students from what I heard support the strike
or atleast the ones who don't support it haven't said anything
so yeah
clear heath
it probably just created more work for the teachers since a day of work would just pile up
olive ember
Idek cuz the idea is that they literally don't work
so no student emails
no assignments
no classes
just nothing teaching related
same thing with TA's n such
but yeah I had 5 classes this semester and to my knowledge all 5 of em are on strike
1 CS, 3 Economics, 1 Greek Civilization
dunno which departments they are in but yeah
hollow spindle
Idek cuz the idea is that they literally don't work
Derpy stop stressing out
cyan notch
2 weeks later theyre gonna be like ok guys were gonna start midterms tomorrow
hollow spindle
You're going to pop a vein before you meet the love of your life
cyan notch
hope u guys took the strike to study up
olive ember
I mean I'm planning to
hollow spindle
planning to pop a vein?
blazing oak
Any of y’all accidentally almost delete your character
olive ember
I just never press the delete button
cyan notch
no
clear heath
no
cyan notch
theres a confirm option anyway
blazing oak
It’s harder to not press the delete button on accident when there is only 4 buttons to press
cyan notch
im pretty sure after u press delete theres another screen where u have to hold the delete button down
blazing oak
Okay I’m setting aim assist to legacy
cyan notch
wait the hold delete may have been diablo 4
blazing oak
Let’s see if I can spin again
cyan notch
but theres another confiramation screen
blazing oak
Steam deck 
olive ember
controller user
blazing oak
Who says I’m broke
cyan notch
steam deck is pretty cheap for its capabilities tbh
olive ember
the internet standard
40 yr old guy in mothers basement
or 10 yr old annoying squeaker
no in between
cyan notch
which one are you
blazing oak
HOLY SHIT
olive ember
I'm forever 21 🙂
blazing oak
the spin speed is tied to the aim assist
cyan notch
im h&m
olive ember
I used to say that I was forever 21 when I was like 16 and people assumed I was like 50
good times
now im actually old ;-;
blazing oak
@void mural the spin speed is actually tied to the aim assist I don’t need to start modding
cyan notch
the hells spin speed
blazing oak
So basically on legacy aim assist when I start turning on controller it speeds up and I start going really fast while spinning
While holding a ranged weapon
cyan notch
thats look acceleration
blazing oak
Well I’m sorry I didn’t know terminology
cyan notch
i mean thats an option in settings
blazing oak
But the new aim assist caps the look acceleration
cyan notch
thats what its called u can turn it off
blazing oak
But the look acceleration is different for every ranged weapon. The max speed I can spin at, at least
blazing oak
Yes but the new aim assist lowers the look acceleration cap
cyan notch
i think thats because the new stuff has the aim slowdown when you hover over targets
blazing oak
In any case it’s FatShark weirdness because of all the weapons I’ve tried, the Flamer has the highest max look acceleration
blazing oak
i think thats because the new stuff has the aim slowdown when you hover over tar...
Even in elevators when there is nothing?
And I’m holding down the turning joystick all the way and I’m turning not fast
cyan notch
no i would assume not
blazing oak
But thats what happens so I’ll chalk it up to jank
cyan notch
not surprised
it doesnt even save ur sens settings
i have to reselect it every time i launch the game
blazing oak
It’s weird that aim assist would do that
I’m just happy I can go back to being a weirdo in elevators
cyan notch
they probably have different sensitivity curves for the different aa options
they just dont tell you shit and dont give u many options
no vertical/horizontal/ads/hipfire sens settings
button layouts are just normal/advanced
blazing oak
Too bad I’m not going to download a recording software on the steam deck, so I can’t show you how fast it goes
cyan notch
they said go figure out by yourself what advanced is
blazing oak
Yep
midnight bluff
how does rebless work
blazing oak
Wait it gives you aim assist options for computer?
midnight bluff
im coming back to the game after months
blazing oak
how does rebless work
Rebless lets you exchange a blessing for one you’ve unlocked
spice veldt
you can earn a blessing by picking a weapon with a particular blessing; earning will destroy the weapon in the process
midnight bluff
i unlocked one but its not appearing in the I II III IV options
blazing oak
What weapon
midnight bluff
voidstrike staff
blazing oak
Have you unlocked it with and what weapon are you blessing
spice veldt
you've been fatsharked
midnight bluff
terrfying barrage was the blessing in question
blazing oak
What weapon did you surrender for the blessing
midnight bluff
surge
blazing oak
Staffs don’t share blessings
spice veldt
none of our current staffs belong to the same family, so blessings are not shared between them
midnight bluff
whack
blazing oak
Get FatSharked
cyan notch
Wait it gives you aim assist options for computer?
its the same thing full/light/legacy/off
tidal kernel
what makes the illisi so powerful? horizontal swipes?
cyan notch
and its charged state
spice veldt
has roughly the same cleave distribution as the power sword but marginally faster and with infinite dodges
and with psyker's 0.15 second interval between dodges, compared to vet's 0.25 0.2
cloud sequoia
what makes the illisi so powerful? horizontal swipes?
1000 degree hot knife
snow panther
yoo this in melks shop
past brook
does unstable power's 5% power stack up to 5 times (so +25% power) at 100% peril, or is it just up to 5% power total? not sure how the desc works on that one
spice veldt
the former, but with 4 stacks with each stack gained at 20/40/60/80% peril
you'll see it reflected in the damage numbers here
https://streamable.com/w70p4e
past brook
alright
warped kernel
Random, but I think it'd be cool for Pysker if Quicken also affected staves. I actually feel like there's a somewhat significant increase in damage for the surge staff when charged up all the way and it'd be fun to be able to quickly charge all the way. And it would also be useful for voidstrike. Not as much for purg though.
snow panther
what counts as a warp attack for the Warp Absorption feat?
past brook
is unstable power a decent pick for the force swords?
cyan notch
yes
regal void
is unstable power a decent pick for the force swords?
Yes
spice veldt
it's nice, since there's not much competition besides from slaughterer
feral verge
is unstable power a decent pick for the force swords?
yes it's great
you want to play at high peril with it obviously
it's a very viable and powerful playstyle
you want a force sword with low warp resistance, so you can easily maintain high peril
like this
the lower, the better
spice veldt
what counts as a warp attack for the Warp Absorption feat?
all force staff attacks except the special; all force sword specials; brain burst; Soulblaze kills (not sure about soulblaze from other players)
void mural
<@237066801526210560> the spin speed is actually tied to the aim assist I don’t ...
ha, that's good at least that you can have your spin!
midnight bluff
what da best blessing on voidstrike
feral verge
lmfaooooo lol lmaooo hahhahahha lmfaoooo loll
feral verge
what da best blessing on voidstrike
warp flurry and transfer peril
best in slot blessings
midnight bluff
oh damn that is nice
feral verge
pretty much lets you cast forever when there are hordes/groups
no quelling needed
transfer peril 3 should be good enough
to let you cast forever
transfer peril 4 is just overkill
snow panther
just failed a match because 3 of us went down and the last person up was a psyker that only used brainburst
literally would not do anything but use brainburst
midnight bluff
what we thinkin
feral verge
what staff
midnight bluff
VS
feral verge
you 100% want warp unleashed
inner tranq is utterly unecessary on voidstrike
voidstrike you can cast forever with best blessings
feral verge
still
and mind in motion is a meme
i'd never take that
especially now that quelling peril is so fast
you want kinetic deflection
kinetic shield only if you intend on doing a high peril build
and ascendant blaze really needs warp battery to shine
and quietitude is the go-to feat these days
because quelling peril is so fast
blazing oak
lmfaooooo lol lmaooo hahhahahha lmfaoooo loll
Hey the spin is greater with less aim assist so I’m using less
feral verge
my voidstrike setup
up until last month, i mained voidstrike since release
if you are wondering why mind in motion is such a meme (other than quelling peril being so fast), it's because it is a measely little quality of life feat
whereas the other two are major game changers in terms of survivability
one lets you pretty much blcok forever, and get clutch revives for teamates
the other effectively gives you 33% toughness against ALL attacks (not just ranged attacks, like it says in the tool tip. the tool tip is incorrect)
so in comparison to those two, mind in motion is a joke
and might be the most useless feat in the psyker's arsenal
midnight bluff
yeah peril quells a lot faster now i havent played in months
feral verge
yee
unless they buff mind in motion, never ever take that
the meta is quietitude and warp unleashed (for nearly all builds)
with inner tranq only being really considerable with trauma staff
the rest are preference, except
ascendant blaze should almost always be taken with warp battery
(because with 6 warp stacks from battery, you can literally delete hordes, and rooms full of shooters. only flak armored dude's will survive)
snow panther
is quietude really better than essence harvest? with harvest and the other charge perks its basically up all the time
worn cypress
better now after quelling changes
feral verge
it is now because peril quells so fast
then you have battle meditation which procs pretty frequently
worn cypress
its especially super nice when you carry a FS
feral verge
so that's free toughness
feral verge
and if you let your peril decay over time, that's just extra toughness regen
ontop of whatever oyu have on your curios
spice veldt
essence harvest places an emphasis on either brain burst or warp charge feats, none of which I particularly like
feral verge
essence harvest would be alot better if it could stack, but it cant
essence harvest + quicken could potentialyl be amazing if it could stack
worn cypress
I waffled between EH and quietitude a bunch before the quell buff patch and now quietitude is just straight up better, even when taking all warp gain feats
olive ember
They also nerfed psyker traits across the board
back in CBT essence harvest was 50 toughness per BB
kind jay
eh on gaining a charge? it won't be that impressive still
ember hornet
I'm talking about vet lol
ember hornet
quietitude very nice atm
spice veldt
damn i forgot about vet
feral verge
V*t
ember hornet
regening 700 toughness per elite/special kill
pog
and the 25% regen over time stacks
feral verge
John darktide
olive ember
It was funny cuz iirc vet was the weakest in the CBT
And zealot was the strongest
And then every class got nerfed besides vet which got buffed
ember hornet
zealot F used to be very fun
olive ember
And here we are today
feral verge
I play psyker like zealot now and have more fun than actually playing zealot
ember hornet
it's almost like the original zealot F without the ranged downgrade would be good design
and originally intended
feral verge
Zealot needs more interesting weapons
spice veldt
original zealot used to be 100% right?
ember hornet
it was 100% toughness yeah which was a bit OP I guess
olive ember
Yes
ember hornet
but the effect for melee lasted full duration
spice veldt
huh
olive ember
Zealot was considered best class cuz you basically had a “Press F to ignore damage” button
And that too
spice veldt
yeah, for a melee class
olive ember
Psyker BB was also not dogshit
spice veldt
i guess zealot is the ranged anti-armor class now
ember hornet
autopistol killing crushers 
wooden silo
cyan notch
autopistol killing crushers <a:NODDERS:1073320123227713608>
psykers can too
olive ember
It’s weird cuz in this game the shooting feels… idk not that satisfying? atleast the only thing that feels particularly satisfying are flamers n such. Like plinking shooters while getting slapped by horde isn’t satisfying and ammo is big enough of an issue where I can’t just spray into every horde
Dunno
ember hornet
psykers can too
how
spice veldt
kinetic flayer
cyan notch
🤫
spice veldt
the power buff applies to that BB as well
ember hornet
wtf is that
spice veldt
10% chance for your hit to BB an enemy every 15 seconds
ember hornet
oh you mean with BB....
olive ember
It’s the free BB every 15 seconds
Simply proc it on a crusher and watch them die
Very funny
ember hornet
lol
olive ember
Just make sure you don’t proc it on a pox walker
ember hornet
I still haven't seen any clips of people killing teammates with rending barrel
very sad
spice veldt
only one I know of is yvanna's video
olive ember
I just shoot barrels
cyan notch
oh you mean with BB....
spice veldt
god damn
viral solstice
rending is what they call a luxury pick on zealot
ember hornet
I hate the autopistol so much now
olive ember
What is that voice
ember hornet
and people are going to cry so hard when it's nerfed
cyan notch
it do be pretty silly
feral verge
and people are going to cry so hard when it's nerfed
The v*ts will leave even more bad reviews
ember hornet
ugh
olive ember
Lmao
ember hornet
implement banning of people that leave bad reviews over good nerfs
cyan notch
catfish said the next patch isnt gonna be a nerf one
cyan notch
so its prob gonna be awhile
olive ember
2h power sword here we go
viral solstice
imo if u type "dont nerf x buff everything else" ever u should be perma-muted on all game-related discussions
im harsh but fair
cyan notch
imo if u type "dont nerf x buff everything else" ever u should be perma-muted on...
its a pve game tho
viral solstice
ember hornet
it's a pve game and this is my only way to have fun
viral solstice
in fact, the computer has no feelings
so u should always buff every patch
who cares if the computer gets weaker, its just computer
NO feeling
but i will feel good
ember hornet
I already sacrificed 14 mountain goats to get my cool weapon
feral verge
its a pve game tho
Idk about that
viral solstice
barrel is pvp
cyan notch
it actually is
golden tartan
Fuck burster shooters
ember hornet
surge kinda turns it into a pvp game too
cyan notch
they removed ranged ff but added barrels
olive ember
I mean maybe just me but idrc if they didn’t nerf anything tbh
Besides veteran
Fucking nerf that shit into the ground
ahem
feral verge
Every time someone shoots a barrel or burster near me I use the "thank you" voice line
viral solstice
when ppl say that stuff u just have to agree then say "thats why they should make every weapon in elden ring one shot the bosses, its a pve game, they should buff everything up to the strength of the most broken buff stack builds"
feral verge
To call them out in a funny way
viral solstice
and then just look them in the eye
golden tartan
Besides veteran
I SAW THAT
viral solstice
and dare them to agree
olive ember
I mean the argument is that they can then introduce harder difficulties I guess
A lot of work for something one nerf can do
cyan notch
its a pve game so sedition should be the only difficulty so u can feel like a god
viral solstice
thats not an argument
golden tartan
I mean the argument is that they can then introduce harder difficulties I guess
There are 5 difficulties
feral verge
The game needs easier difficulties
golden tartan
3 of them are barely used
viral solstice
thats literally accepting the premise that the nerf is good
olive ember
Not enough smh even drg has hazard 5.5 smh smh
feral verge
Sedition is hard enough as it is
viral solstice
its just moving the pieces
golden tartan
Sedition and Uprising barely get touched
viral solstice
feral verge
The teammates are so bad
cyan notch
i think theres a decent number of people in not damnation
feral verge
On malice and heresy
olive ember
*alright children please walk this way now”
golden tartan
i think theres a decent number of people in not damnation
Oh agreed
But like the vast majority of people are in 3-5
When it should be 2-4
ember hornet
The game needs easier difficulties
olive ember
Oh yeah no one runs sedition anymore besides during weekly resets
I can’t get sedition games at all
spice veldt
i do think that sedition and uprising are a bit easier than they really should be
cyan notch
even in vt2 when fatshark released figures for the difficulties the proportion of dudes in not legend was comparable
golden tartan
Damnation should be Heresy.
Heresy should be Malice.
Malice should be Uprising
Uprising should be Sedition
feral verge
Lmfao
spice veldt
especially because difficulty isn't just numbers but spawn timers, ranged dmg mechanic duration and cooldown, etc.
viral solstice
no they should buff all the weak difficulties
not nerf the strong ones
its a pve game
spice veldt
they really should balance the difficulties
cyan notch
koop game
ember hornet
learn to play in team before you play koop game
golden tartan
But like if ur running D tier weapons, then Heresy does feel like Damnation
viral solstice
how can u balance the difficulties when some people are running op knife revolver
ember hornet
man I love that screenshot
viral solstice
golden tartan
And Damnation feels like sweat
spice veldt
simply don't crash
golden tartan
Claw is C tier. Get that right 😛
feral verge
Damnation doesn't feel sweaty until hi intensity and shock troop
ember hornet
shock is always sweaty
golden tartan
Damnation with S and A tier weapons is a snooze fest
ember hornet
hi5 not if you have good team
grizzled jasper
they need to make t6 and just make it hordes of specials coming at you
golden tartan
Hi5 is sweaty if u arent using good shit
viral solstice
nothing is sweaty if u dont have sweat gland
golden tartan
Take a recon into hi5
ember hornet
yeah
golden tartan
U wilp feel it
blazing oak
Imagine being a casual gamer who plays to get rid of work stress. You play darktide casually and find malice challenging but fun. You decide to enter the discord to see what’s going on and see people saying that damnation is easy
ember hornet
I got trolled the other night when 2 people invited me to queue into hi5 lights out
and both ran recon
spice veldt
oh the recon lasgun incident
spice veldt
well
grizzled jasper
Imagine being a casual gamer who plays to get rid of work stress. You play darkt...
thats what you get for having a JOB
spice veldt
to really make you feel that it's hi5
golden tartan
They are being considerate bringing flashlights
blazing oak
<:ogryn_pathetic:1083359691742122014> thats what you get for having a JOB
Well good thing that’s not me
ember hornet
we just died instantly and someone pulled the DH
viral solstice
its dark u need people to look for bad guys
spice veldt
tbf, most of us are geared out like hell such that damnation is easier than for casuals
blazing oak
I’m gonna go play recon vet now
ember hornet
what if a recon lasgun had like, night vision sight
feral verge
What if recon did damage
blazing oak
The true recon play style is to bring camo, sit in a corner and just ping stuff
Reconnaissance
viral solstice
what if the veteran class had a make enemy glow in dark sight
much too thonk aboot
spice veldt
and it got a little slapped with the flak burn nerf
blazing oak
I’m gonna go play recon vet with slide reload
cyan notch
the first or second infernus nerf
ember hornet
yes
viral solstice
the infernus inferno
feral verge
olive ember
Infernus recon las was pretty pog back in its hay day
ember hornet
way too many images
ember hornet
post those in the bad takes thread in ec4
olive ember
And then it got slapped with another nerf
blazing oak
So not bad take them
cyan notch
slutterer def needs to be reined in
ember hornet
what's funny about this one is it was post hammer nerf when they also introduced shock
feral verge
Unstable power buff when
spice veldt
simply predict 1.1 seconds into the future to avoid getting punished
feral verge
Buff unstable power tool tip
ember hornet
Unstable power buff when
it only does 1% on each stack dude
so bad
I just tested it
feral verge
It's 20% at t4
ember hornet
yes because I'm a prick
spice veldt
cat vs frog
viral solstice
feral verge
I @ed him with a screenshot
spice veldt
that's some real-hitting imagery
feral verge
Of my scoreboard
olive ember
Aren’t we all pricks
ember hornet
what else is there to do in this discord besides being extremely helpful and also having semi elitist takes
olive ember
We literally don’t have anything better to do than to argue with each other every day
spice veldt
dodge slide
blazing oak
Slide reload is making a noticeable difference wtf
spice veldt
why are you typing in discord instead of spamming dodge and crouch
viral solstice
why are you typing in discord instead of spamming dodge and crouch
have u heard about just running really fast
ember hornet
so I dont dodge slide
ember hornet
and run HP curios
spice veldt
i am a leg purist
viral solstice
leg wont work
spice veldt
i'm sliding to burn my pants off
feral verge
ember hornet
he posted a rant somewhere else
olive ember
.> hp curios forever
feral verge
I used that sword 90% of the game
ember hornet
I don't mind people being annoying so much
feral verge
I had a surge staff lol
ember hornet
I mind them being annoying overconfident assholes though
which DT seems to attract a lot of
ember hornet
lmao
feral verge
Rip
cyan notch
check dt mod cord lounge
olive ember
Not in it he complaining?
spice veldt
feral verge
Thanks for flat out proving him wrong
spice veldt
olive ember
Also was tempted to install reroll mod so there’s that
cyan notch
u can just browse the nexus mods page if u want
spice veldt
not too bad besides being a little tedious when you're mass-updating mods
snow panther
omg just did hi int, was not prepared
hi int shock troop
did not like trauma staff on that
spice veldt
:(
spice veldt
true; surge might be better
viral solstice
voidstrike
olive ember
Just ease of use in hi shock environment
viral solstice
viral solstice
send em to da boggy in da sky
spice veldt
nnnnnno
snow panther
i like surge generally
i feel like i would have been more useful with surge for sure
rest of team had dps covered
olive ember
dogs dont deserve to go to heaven
How dare you >.>
Unless you are talking about poxhounds
spice veldt
maybe a little bit of both
cats are cuter, though I find dogs more approachable (most of the time)
ember hornet
voidstrike
olive ember
Ofc they agree
ember hornet
only the most based opinions sorry
primal plume
im surprised this hasnt gotten any buffs yet
primal plume
is it?
viral solstice
yes
spice veldt
I think it's fine
spice veldt
just that you need to bring some toughness curios to get the best benefit from it
primal plume
i always thought its underwhelming compared to deflection
viral solstice
deflection does nothing if ur not blocking
spice veldt
for revives, deflection does help
primal plume
its saved me a few times
viral solstice
which sounds dumb
but its just like
if ur actually fighting dudes
toughness dr is doing things
spice veldt
I usually bring the trauma staff which covers my revives though, so deflection ends up being a bit redundant
viral solstice
olive ember
fucking shield users
spice veldt
so I'd rather bring a +stam curio over kinetic deflection
since I can use stamina for sprinting and pushes
spice veldt
and just have kinetic shield as basically another toughness curio
olive ember
basically
faint heron
viral solstice
theres no such thing as "ranged damage reduction" for toughness
its just generic toughness dr
olive ember
basically shield is general use
its a flat toughness dmg reduction that varies between 10 - 33%
deflection is more of a clutch trait
and if you use deflector FS honestly just run deflector
bitter escarp
clutch or crutch
olive ember
depends on how you use it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
bitter escarp
heh fair
I learned to stop leaning on it but came back around to it because it's fun
Vader in rogue one reenactments
faint heron
i cant get over how good Uncanny strike is, just mince everything
olive ember
deflection is good when you need to revive someone in a horde, or you for wte reason get caught out etc. like push attacking becomes super safe when you have deflection so you can kinda just push attack spam and wade through an entire horde without even trying
when paired with a deflector FS the caught out part also extends to random shotgunners n shit that just pop out of no where
uncanny? idr how good that is on the FS
pretty sure most people just stack slaughterer or unstable power if they want dmg
spice veldt
not particularly unless you hate crushers or maulers
though the stagger increase is nice
faint heron
slaughters any enemy, if you get those mixed groups of Ragers, maulers and Crushers just one special attack on the pox walkers heads and you can clean up crushers like they were naked at max Uncanny stacks
spice veldt
on the special, max t4 uncanny stacks are a 33% bump against carapace which isn't too bad I suppose
hybrid solstice
imo this would be far better on future psyker careers that inevitably wont have brainburst
faint heron
when you playing damnation shock gauntlet, brainbursting is far less effective then just cleaving the 6+ crushers heads in 1 or 2 attacks
kind jay
uncanny seems pointless on fs
spice veldt
carapace and unyielding immediately stop your cleave
so you're only going to hit one crusher anyways at a time
faint heron
it doesnt seem to be the case
spice veldt
huh does uncanny change something about that
hybrid solstice
are we talking regular or special attacks
faint heron
i have come across those large mixed groups of armor and not noticed anthing stopping my cleave
spice veldt
crushers, as in the ogryn carapace-armoured enemies
faint heron
yes
fierce sinew
gimping your melee weapon for marginal help (at nonzero setup cost) killing an enemy you can just BB twice if you get zero help seems omegabad
spice veldt
if you can kill them within the duration of slaughterer, it's not a bad idea for the sake of maintaining slaughterer stacks
faint heron
gimping your melee weapon for marginal help (at nonzero setup cost) killing an e...
untill you need to brainburst 6 Crushers for 2 BBs each, yeah real bad....
fierce sinew
somebody kinetic barraging will unironically kill the 6 faster lmao
faint heron
i dont think so
fierce sinew
and they don't need to make up a story about nearby poxwalkers to farm for slaughterer etc first
hybrid solstice
First off kinetic barrage, second off your team is generally supposed to pitch in when there are 6 crushers
spice veldt
time to see if uncanny changes anything about carapace stopping your cleave
faint heron
also then distracting the crushers while you BB all 6 become someone elses problem, i can take their attention and kill them all just as quick if not quicker
olive ember
I dont have uncanny
fierce sinew
you can kite crushers while BB just fine, don't need any help
fierce sinew
sometimes I think people type on here that don't actually play the videogame
faint heron
spice veldt
damn I have no uncanny illisis
fierce sinew
maybe this is a giant chatgpt training honeypot and none of you are human
hybrid solstice
what blessing did slaughterer replace
spice veldt
without uncanny, I can only hit 1 crusher at max t4 slaughterer stacks
olive ember
I mean
forest coral
maybe this is a giant chatgpt training honeypot and none of you are human
dreams are not real
olive ember
i'm too dumb to be a part of chatGPT
faint heron
what blessing did slaughterer replace
deflector 3 i think
hybrid solstice
deflector 3 i think
oh i see, not bad
faint heron
Deflector is so 2022 😂
hybrid solstice
I like deflector but slaughterer and unstable power/executor are just too good to pass up, especially on illisi
faint heron
i heard Shred is pretty insane with slaughterer also
hybrid solstice
sure it's probably pretty good too
ruby plover
damn i was reading chat earlier
faint heron
because of the whole force sword automatic crital weakspot hit
ruby plover
im sad i missed that guy insisting that unstable power is 5% total
that looked like fun
spice veldt
yeah, uncanny strike doesn't overcome carapace stopping your cleave even with 100% rending with max t4 uncanny strike stacks
olive ember
im sad i missed that guy insisting that unstable power is 5% total
Hes still in the modders discord
but people were clowning on him earlier and we kinda just ended up talking about force swords in general lmao
ruby plover
i dont understand how 5 people in the psyker channel all authoritatively say the same thing
and someone just goes "fuck you. you're wrong. i haven't tested it but you're wrong i read the tooltip" right off the rip
like huh
spice veldt
they said they tested it but still came to the conclusion that it was 1%
copper torrent
but then they also test it... and then don't math
spice veldt
I have a sneaking suspicion that they tested it with slaughterer stacks up
since they talked about doing 1k damage
olive ember
Idk he then said he didn't listen to pricks
and im just like
dude we are all telling you the same thing
and all we do is argue with each other all the time
copper torrent
I disagree
prisma perch
Deimos is better with purgatus cause you don’t need the clear from illisi right?
olive ember
okay lets not kid ourselves
golden tartan
:3
olive ember
passable clear isnt good
golden tartan
Its good clear
cyan notch
i think uncanny is fine is fine if u have slaughterer
spice veldt
but yeah it's generally better to have your range cover the deimos if need be
golden tartan
Like actually good clear
olive ember
...
golden tartan
Compare that to the shit with passable clear
golden tartan
Chain Axe.
spice veldt
it is pretty neat
prisma perch
Just making sure I’m not being dumb by combining deimos and purgatus
olive ember
nah deimos purge is a meta combo
golden tartan
It is the benchmark for AVERAGE hordeclear
If you have better clear than Chaxe u have good clear
A lot of shit has clear worse than Chaxe
E.g. the thammer
The csword
The claw
The rashad
spice veldt
Just making sure I’m not being dumb by combining deimos and purgatus
i'd say it's fine even if there's a bit of overlap
regardless of the staff I run, I always whip out the illisi
faint heron
chainaxe push attack is actually OP 😂
golden tartan
when did the csword have worse clear than teh chaxe
Chaxe has slaughterer
golden tartan
Yea
copper torrent
@prisma perch they compliment each other well. I don't think it is dumb.
prisma perch
Thanks everyone! 👍
cyan notch
deimos has very decent horde clear
golden tartan
Just making sure I’m not being dumb by combining deimos and purgatus
Purg goes with basically every melee
And deimos goes with basically every ranged
U cant go wrong with combos for those two
Illisi purg is a little silly but i mean
Its Illisi
spice veldt
if not for the hordeclear, it's nice to have a stick that regenerates your toughness
faint heron
i run Purg/Illisi 👀
golden tartan
Thats like saying vet is an idiot for running Psword with Shredder
Yea theres overlap
But its also the fucking psword
prisma perch
Is it worth doing uncanny/slaughter on deimos for crushers?
golden tartan
Is it worth doing uncanny/slaughter on deimos for crushers?
Its worth for everything
faint heron
Is it worth doing uncanny/slaughter on deimos for crushers?
does it need it?
hybrid solstice
Illisi purg is a little silly but i mean
I run illisi purg right now
golden tartan
End of story
spice veldt
uncanny strike is nice yeah
olive ember
its basically up to +75% power
golden tartan
I run illisi purg right now <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Its still the illisi
So like
It sounds silly on paper for the overlap
But like
prisma perch
I always take slaughterer the question was more uncanny there’s a lot of different combos going around right now
golden tartan
Its still the strongest melee by a mile
faint heron
once you hit 50% rending i heard you start using the regular damage table instead of the armor one
hybrid solstice
Yeah it's pretty general purpose
golden tartan
So the overlap is irrelevant
olive ember
idk i never used uncanny but can't speak for it
hybrid solstice
If it werent i might run something else
spice veldt
once you hit 50% rending i heard you start using the regular damage table instea...
the 50% rending threshold isn't for anything besides stagger
faint heron
uncanny works for flack also which is a little bonus
spice veldt
if you have less than 50% rending, you deal less stagger
if you have more than 50% rending, you'll do more stagger
prisma perch
I don’t have a lot of knowledge on psyker I was a veteran main since game came out
olive ember
the tried and true combos are basically shred/bloodthirsty for extra crit, unstable for the flat power (better than crit usually), deflector for utility
can't say much about uncanny strikes
prisma perch
I know that the rending on ps was shit
spice veldt
in regards to damage, rending/brittleness only affects damage if your weapon deals less than 100% damage to a particular armour type
hybrid solstice
i have a pretty sick antax so even if they absolutely hamstring illisi i still have a potent alternative
spice veldt
so for force swords, normal heavies and special lights/heavies deal <100% damage only to carapace
spice veldt
on normal sweeping lights, I think it's just flak, maniac, and carapace that have <100% damage
olive ember
I have an obscures so
spice veldt
I think it deals 75% damage to carapace?
olive ember
unless they do some heavy handed bullshit even if they nerf the new FS I still have old trusty to fall back on
tbh I still use it now anyways
cuz I perform better with an obscures lmao
faint heron
does the single target force sword special even care about armour?
spice veldt
nope
it deals 200% to flak and 100% to everything else
for the illisi, the special lights/heavies deal 75% to carapace
olive ember
the normal l1 - h2 combo has so much single target dps it basically competes with the deimos special even against flak
its kinda dumb lmao
prisma perch
Gotcha
spice veldt
eh, it's also useful on the deimos with the normals
faint heron
if i didnt have Uncanny on my Illisi id want Shred
olive ember
how good or bad is the deimos normal combo into crushers again?
cuz unless uncanny suddenly turns a 2 shot into a 1 shot or like a 3 shot into a 2 shot
spice veldt
force sword normal heavies do 66% damage to carapace, so it's basically a 50% damage bonus to them with 100% rending
not sure about the light stab
olive ember
🤔
spice veldt
just eyeballing the numbers, the light stab seems to do 25% damage to carapace
olive ember
cuz IK for the obscures uncanny was basically pointless cuz anything above a mauler you would just use the special
but yeah dunno about the deimos with its stupid damage or the illisi
prisma perch
So aiming for uncanny instead of unstable or something is definitely good on illisi
cyan notch
Is it worth doing uncanny/slaughter on deimos for crushers?
if u do heavy special on crusher to build stacks of uncanny i think u can followup with light poke heavy poke to kill
spice veldt
though unstable applies to every enemy instead of being useful only on carapace
prisma perch
if u do heavy special on crusher to build stacks of uncanny i think u can follow...
That sounds pretty helpful! Would you need carapace perk as well?
cyan notch
i do not know
faint heron
if you do a deimos special on a crushers head it gives you 3 stacks of uncanny
olive ember
do keep in mind what you are sacrificing to get uncanny tho
namely unstable power is what people generally use
which is 20% extra dmg, cleave, and stagger
prisma perch
That’s cool
olive ember
so first is how much extra dmg does uncanny etc. actually give you and then 2nd is if that extra dmg against basically only crushers worth it compared to just a flat +20% power on everything
spice veldt
the downside being that you usually have slaughterer, so the relative contribution from unstable power is less
I am considering slapping bloodthirsty onto an illisi over unstable power (but that also requires me to get a good t4 slaught illisi)
hybrid solstice
that sounds good, throwing out heavy crit specials over and over seems cool
cyan notch
That sounds pretty helpful! Would you need carapace perk as well?
https://youtu.be/G8Ggn55j30A?t=533 see timestamp from a vid someone posted
ruby plover
hybrid solstice
or even just for a free crit every once and a while
ruby plover
meanwhile deimos special vs assassination boss
spice veldt
flak enemies hate this one trick!!!
cyan notch
so u dont need carapace but it helps then u dont need to rely on warp charges
olive ember
is the deimos special noticeably better than the obscures special?
cyan notch
no its the same
olive ember
i remember in testing they were basically the same
prisma perch
https://youtu.be/G8Ggn55j30A?t=533 see timestamp from a vid someone posted
Thanks!
faint heron
OG FS special has always been a beast
hybrid solstice
true
spice veldt
this is foreshadowing the fact that he's not actually a fan of the surge staff
spice veldt
what a good writer
prisma perch
Wondering how often primary attack should be used on purgatus? Sometimes I’ll shoot a bit out quick to stagger some shooters or something.
olive ember
I use it randomly whenever I wanna stagger something yeah
just be careful of the sprint stagger blah blah
ruby plover
darktide staves 
faint heron
Wondering how often primary attack should be used on purgatus? Sometimes I’ll sh...
if they get close do a couple of squirts to get them back, also if you need to push a dog or burster
olive ember
where it fires a flame visually but nothing actually gets fired
prisma perch
Understood!
ruby plover
i miss bolt staff 
ruby plover
i really dont get it darktide staves are so fucking boring compared to vermintides
forest coral
Somehow Ay
faint heron
i really dont get it darktide staves are so fucking boring compared to vermintid...
to be fair original vermintide staffs were pretty average also
ruby plover
bolt and beam are already way more interesting than anything darktide has
forest coral
Funny coruscation and conflagration staves
ruby plover
i guess the other ones were all kind of mid interest wise
olive ember
eh I mean tbh bolt was just hold charge to fire a spear and beam was just m1 simulator
faint heron
which one left fire on the ground, was it conflag?
olive ember
the big thing is that every staff had two modes of fire and functioned completely differently
ruby plover
bolt was a shredder with a multistage railgun attached that uses peril
olive ember
what we have is
forest coral
I think it was conflag ye