psyker-class

[autumn smelt]

and thats exactly what happened

now im down 45 minutes and nothing to show for it, not even the triumph of completing it

[feral verge]

i just lost a hi5shock

[autumn smelt]

the refinery one?

[feral verge]

sucks, because people left my stats git eaten

yeah

my name is Mai

but where is Mai? gone cuz leavers

bot took priority somehow

[autumn smelt]

4 score

[olive ember]

Mankar scored less than 4

fucking unbelievable

[autumn smelt]

also pretty peeved i cant get that mod

so i just have to guess if im carrying my weight or not

[olive ember]

Eh I never use the mod

Therefore I am always carrying

It’s like the saying goes

“I think, therefore I am”

And no that’s not how you use the saying kek

[autumn smelt]

also this is what that final section looked like on my screen lmao

[spice veldt]

god damn

[autumn smelt]

even more pissed cuz i DIDNT DIE DURING THAT SECTION

even with that

i literally was forced to BB the whole time and spam ping cuz otherwise i wouldnt know where enemies were

[olive ember]

Wait I thought you were saying you were playing on 144p

Or is that my internet

[autumn smelt]

thats what it looked like on my screen

due to my internet fucking dying

[fierce sinew]

using any peril generating action in that environment is a power move

I'd be afraid of rubberbanding into a perils explosion

if that were me

[hot coral]

i just lost from a mutant jumping up and down a balcony and it kept throwing me back

lmfao

legit perma cc'd

[autumn smelt]

not like i had a choice

[fierce sinew]

when I feel like I'm about to get 2014'd I mash push attack

[autumn smelt]

i had an antax but i wouldnt have been able to tell what was around me lol

[fierce sinew]

with antax

[white cedar]

I have a question. Does "Damage" stats in Pergatus also effect the fire or only bonk damage

[leaden thunder]

it effects the flame but not the dot it applies

if that makes any sense at all

[olive ember]

The fire does direct damage but also applies dots

It’s a dump stat because the variance is small

[white cedar]

direct?

[olive ember]

When you shoot an enemy it does direct damage

When you use AB it applies a dot

[white cedar]

oh = =

[olive ember]

Purge staff does both

It’s a dump stat because the variance is small

[white cedar]

so 99% of damage calculate on Burn, right?

[olive ember]

Like I believe a 0% is like 9 dmg a tick and a 100% is like 11 dmg a tick

[fierce sinew]

when enemies are in the purg staff right click aoe they take a small amount of damage at (fairly rapid) intervals of time in addition to the soulblaze dot that's being applied

[olive ember]

You want burn and cloud radius and yea

I think the dump dump stat is like warp resist or quell speed or something

[white cedar]

so this staff is quite good?

[fierce sinew]

it's not 99 but it's probably 90+

[feral verge]

yes

[fierce sinew]

yes

[white cedar]

40% make it look stupid by the number lol

[primal plume]

is this dagger any good

[kind jay]

good enough to toss in the trash

[feral verge]

knife is a meme

knife on psyker is a massive meme

[primal plume]

Letter opener then

[feral verge]

if you want zippy weapon

go use deimos

[kind jay]

if you use knife on psyker you have to also use revolver and prison garb

[meager plinth]

and +3 wound curios

[fresh reef]

Knife in general is a meme

Save for Vet, where it's pretty much the only mobility option

[feral verge]

.

[feral verge]

Is that not what I said lol

[blazing oak]

Well, there is another option, but probably not one anyone would use

For mobility

[fresh reef]

I'm guessing one of the tac axes?

Forgot they exist lol

[blazing oak]

No

T4 Rev it Up blessing

[fresh reef]

Kek

[fresh reef]

I read that as "knife on Psyker is a meme" followed by an emphasis on how big of a meme it was ||I'm very stupid||

[edgy kite]

Worth gambling upgrades on?

No clue if i want a specific damage roll on the deimos

[feral verge]

generally, yeah

but if oyu want the most damage possible, you actually want warp resistance to be low

like this

[edgy kite]

Ah ok, thank you 🙂

[feral verge]

low warp resistance makes it easier to raise your peril, which gives you more damage from warp unleashed feat, and unstable power blessing

[edgy kite]

Yeah that makes sense

[feral verge]

which when combined are 44% more damage

(at t4 unstable power)

[valid tulip]

Guys which psyker voice is the best

[meager plinth]

mine

[feral verge]

the worst psykers i have seen in game

tended to use the male seer voice (the my beloved guy)

take that for what you will

the best psykers ive seen in game, tend to use male savant (african guy)

[meager plinth]

if you want to be verbally abused by as many characters, go for the loner

truly experience being a freak

[fierce sinew]

male loner is best and it's not even really close

[feral verge]

that npcs on the mourningstar are nice to me, as female loner

[edgy kite]

Ended up with this

Slaughterer 2 is the best I have atm, will replace it when i get a higher tier

[meager plinth]

pretty good roll

[feral verge]

that's a nice start

[meager plinth]

you can use that for the entire game if you want

[feral verge]

replace block eff. w ith maniac damage

[edgy kite]

Will do when i get more crafting resources 😄

[feral verge]

with maniac damage, you will be able to one shot muties in the head

with the 2nd heavy stab

[edgy kite]

Nice

[feral verge]

(without charging up the weapon special)

you dont have to dodge them anymore

jsut let thme come to you

and stab

ded

[meager plinth]

which is VERY good for hi-intensity shock troop gauntlet

[feral verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlUkBoKxY10

here's a video showcasing the tech

[meager plinth]

when you got 2-3 muties running around

[north solstice]

i might be actually insane but i thought i once read that headshotting with the purg does more dmg, but i have no idea if thats the on apply dmg or actual burn dmg

[meager plinth]

there are weakpoint damage hits but the difference is minimal, like 3-5 more so idk if thats what they referenced

[unreal dust]

You cannot weakpoint with the Purg staff ... ... unless you mean the melee on it.

You -can- Crit. Which does more damage on the tick and applies bonus stacks for faster stacking up to the cap

[unreal dust]

You cannot weakpoint with flames. Crits only

[olive ember]

ewww deimos

why is everyone talking about inferior weapon smh

[unreal dust]

I love my Deimos. Shut your mouth D:

[north solstice]

redditors lied to me

not a first just surprised how often they get me

[fierce sinew]

people on that website make their own luck

[blazing oak]

You’d think that because of the slower response times of Reddit people would take more time to compose more meaningful responses

Maybe at least double checking their information or something

[leaden thunder]

they just have longer to write bullshit

[north solstice]

holy shit i am about to have an aneurism, why do people hold on to medipack so fucking long

i saw this man at deaths door and he just does not use it

boggles me

[blazing oak]

I think it may be because people don’t like to use it just for themselves

May feel selfish

[north solstice]

imo id prefer them use it then and not die in the middle of a firefight causing us to have to rescue them

even when people were around 2/3's or so he just hung on

[unreal dust]

... so I got bored

[north solstice]

but i get where youre coming from

[blazing oak]

Hey, I get it. Don’t need to tell me it

[unreal dust]

And decided to do more Wildfire testing. Like proper testing after playing with it for so long.

And... I am sitting here

Watching it Burn the small Unarmoured pack non-stop for about 5 minutes without any player input >.>

[north solstice]

im just salty is because we wiped >:(

[unreal dust]

They're still burning, as a matter of fact

[blazing oak]

I get that. I’m still salty that FatShark lowered the turning cap for controllers while holding a ranged weapon

[north solstice]

ew

[ruby plover]

when are we letting hadron swap one pair of stats again

could've been the ultimate stroker man

[unreal dust]

317 ....

[blazing oak]

Ew because controller?

[ruby plover]

280 god roll

can stats roll 0

[blazing oak]

Yes I think

[spice veldt]

yup

[pearl lion]

Hm what curio setup do we recommend

[unreal dust]

Its pretty spread across the board what people use. Most swear by toughness regen though

[pearl lion]

Yeah Ive got toughness health and stamina at the mo

I feel like I need the stam for reviving

[ruby plover]

one stam curio is real real nice if ur not running peril block

otherwise toughness gang

[unreal dust]

1 Stam curio is nice just for the extra shove

[obtuse moth]

just take the peril block trait for reviving

[ruby plover]

yeah 33% dr sucks

🥴

[pearl lion]

Oh yeah Ive been meaning to switch from move while vent

[blazing oak]

FatShark please bring back force sword deflector working during revivals

[obtuse moth]

if you still want better reviving you can roll revive speed

[ruby plover]

triple revive curio users are literally the single chadliest chads in tertium

no question

[unreal dust]

I feel like this is better on Ogyrn buddies though

[ruby plover]

best on zealot

[obtuse moth]

psykers revive pretty well too

[ruby plover]

vet has nadespam too

[obtuse moth]

zealot can do the same thing if they take the immunity to hitstun feat

[ruby plover]

reviving is for everyone

[pearl lion]

Oh

hm

[ruby plover]

75% toughness dr also pretty good for revives it turns out

[obtuse moth]

vet doesnt need revive speed as much cause they have so many nades

[pearl lion]

Upgrade this, or take the blessing and put it on

this

[lethal folio]

2

[pearl lion]

Put the blessing on 2?

[lethal folio]

Yes.

[violet thorn]

How do you do max dmg with perils of the warp?

Total number of wounds?

[blazing oak]

You mean the explosion?

[unreal dust]

Proximity. You can test it in Psykhanium

Blow yourself up for days

[unreal dust]

... that was a much longer fall than I expected

[blazing oak]

I’ll do you one better. Try spawning inside the floor of the dropship

[pearl lion]

Learning from Bardin. Gotta protect the Dongliz

[spring fern]

psyker codpiece

we store residual power there

some store more than others

[long wharf]

that's where I store my warp charges

[nimble burrow]

that’d be my F key

UNLEASH THE WARP

[pearl lion]

It is genuinely such a weird piece of armour

Its just tacked on there

[blazing oak]

No stomach armor

[unreal dust]

I keep my pringles there ... ... ...
https://youtu.be/03jSHR6Pt6I

[hollow spindle]

I swear after getting my staff all pimped out the game became such a breeze

[near wyvern]

Groin protection was taken into sports before helmets were a thing. Gotta have your priorities right.

[hollow spindle]

It's basically a bolter on steroids that doesn't need reloading

[pearl lion]

Warhammer armour works by anime rules. 99% of hits on protagonists are to the shoulders, hence the huge pauldrons

[long wharf]

the psyker subconsciously redirects all attacks towards the groin area

hence the heavy fortification

[blazing oak]

Also it’s entirely useless unless reinforced by plot armor

For anyone not a main character the armor is useless

[unreal dust]

Gotta earn that 4+ save

[pearl lion]

Glorious Nippon T'au steel

[hollow spindle]

Tau keeps reminding me that I want more of Commander Farsight

[blazing oak]

What if those could detach and become handheld shields for melee though?

[hollow spindle]

Imagine being Tau and going like "You know what, I'm going melee"

[unreal dust]

His codex sees regular updates.

[blazing oak]

Like when the enemy is getting into melee range just take off your Pauldron and use it as a shield

[hollow spindle]

I'm not into the tabletop. I just read general lore and play Darktide & Warhammer 3 from the fantasy side.

[blazing oak]

I would be into tabletop if painting was a skippable step

[hollow spindle]

Last 40k games I played was Space Marine & Dawn of War 2

[pearl lion]

Those are probably the last good 40k games since DT anyway

[unreal dust]

I couldn't stand 3. Having that super-low camera angle on an RTS set me off... .. badly

[pearl lion]

Well Battlefleet Gothic was also good

[hollow spindle]

Dawn of war 3 was garbage

[pearl lion]

Im still mad about DoW

Its one of the last games I ever preordered

[near wyvern]

There was an online community that was built during the pandemic where you can play it with virtual pieces using the Tabletop simulator I think

[hollow spindle]

Dawn of war 2 was so good imo. I had so much fun playing 3v3 in that game

[pearl lion]

I finished one mission and just though
This is so incredibly shit, what happened

Never played it again

[unreal dust]

Hell. I played 40k on Second Life using shitty proxies once upon a time.

[unreal dust]

I remember the early days of DoW 2... back when Hive Tyrant had Free Hormagaunts and Termagants from brood nest... ... and fielding MASSIVE armies in 3v3's. I'd lose, certainly, but shit was fun

[hollow spindle]

lmao

I remember people playing tyranids as either melee blobs or ranged blobs

one well placed AOE ability and you'd kill the most of them

[unreal dust]

Well you had to due to Synapse and Adv. Synapse boosts

[hollow spindle]

I once made a tyranid guy ragequit by dragging all his troops back with my warlock lord ability, then d-cannoning them all into a singularity

wiped 80% of his army in that go

I had the widest fucking smile on my face

Eldar were so fun in that game

[unreal dust]

A single missed grenade though and you tended to die...

[hollow spindle]

Yeah don't get me wrong, tyranid blobs were fucking scary

especially the ranged

[unreal dust]

Yeah, once Raveners hit the field with Devourers things tend to melt

[hollow spindle]

yep

Still, using D-cannons against those massive tyranid blobs never got old

so much fun

[unreal dust]

Good times

[hollow spindle]

Or when you play chaos and saw the tyranid mass retreat, just pop an ult into the retreat path

I have so many fond memories of that game

goddamn

[blazing oak]

Anyone play black crusade

[hollow spindle]

I did not partake

[blazing oak]

Damn

I need advice on something

[hollow spindle]

I think I've finished the DoW2 campaign like 10+ times in co-op though

[blazing oak]

Actually question

In retribution, you can actually recruit units

That true?

[hollow spindle]

Retribution was the worst campaign of them all

original and chaos rising were the best ones

[blazing oak]

But I want to play Dow2 imperial guard >:(

[hollow spindle]

It's still pretty much just hero based

[blazing oak]

We need a Warhammer 40k other video game channels

[hollow spindle]

but yeah you can get units in retribution

like normal ones

[blazing oak]

Dang

[hollow spindle]

I highly recommend the campaign co-op with a friend tho

It's really good fun

[blazing oak]

What are friends

I’ve already played the first game

[hollow spindle]

Mythical beings

[blazing oak]

I’ve played the base game campaign once

I ask about black crusade because my province is under siege from a tidal wave of chaos marines and big quadruped vehicles and I’m not sure what army composition defeats that

As imperial guard

[hollow spindle]

@blazing oak If you haven't played Gladius that's a fun one

[blazing oak]

I have it

[hollow spindle]

❤️

[blazing oak]

I’m terrible at it

[hollow spindle]

It hits different, but I still like it.

I've not played it in a long time though

[unreal dust]

Defilers? They're basically dreadnaughts. Same effective counters

[hollow spindle]

so it's prolly very different now.

[blazing oak]

No I get that. Sentinels destroy the quadruped vehicles. I just don’t have enough plasma guns to deal with the tide of chaos marines

So I’m wondering if to go for more artillery or heavy weapons squads

[fresh steeple]

HARD carry on this map 😛

[feral verge]

nope

you took the most damage

[unreal dust]

Fighting Marines isn't always about killing them outright. Sometimes you just need to abuse their limited map presence and go for objectives. Autocannons tend to do work if you don't have a lot of plasma though

[feral verge]

means you're bad

[fresh steeple]

he got me

also three revives, though that doesn't show atm

[hollow spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcZzlPGnKdU

[blazing oak]

Let me set the stage. I have basically infinite requisition and my power is not quite there but I have enough time to make it there. Problem is I need to destroy their bases, but when I do, a giant just sea of chaos marines blocks me and pushes back

[fresh steeple]

I had to keep kamikazeing my way toward gunner squads beacuse the other psyker was flamer and the veteran for whatever bizarre reason didn't target gunners

[feral verge]

damn. perks are bad

[fresh steeple]

other psyker was good. Just... not able to help with gunners because of purgatus

[feral verge]

but the stat roll is great

[fresh steeple]

really nice stat roll

[blazing oak]

Auto cannons are the heavy weapons squad upgrade right?

[cyan notch]

buy then hope fatshonk changes locks later

[feral verge]

F

thanks fatshark

[olive ember]

Bricked kekw

[blazing oak]

It would probably be healthier for the game if FatShark found a way to take out the rng but keep in the different stat distributions

[hollow spindle]

I feel your pain

[unreal dust]

Oh, are you talking about the tabletop or the DoW campaign?

[olive ember]

Still can’t believe we don’t have a boss raid mode where 8 or 16 players fight 2 or 4 space marines

SMH

[cyan notch]

why do u need 16 players

[blazing oak]

No the Dow campaign.

Black crusade

[cyan notch]

16 people in an fps for a raid

[blazing oak]

Wait shit

[olive ember]

Cuz 16 players funny kekw

[blazing oak]

I always say black crusade when it’s dark crusade

[cyan notch]

where there are not even designated roles

[olive ember]

But yeah probably 8

But think about 16 bolters

[gilded magnet]

Welp this axe is kinda cursed

[olive ember]

It would be fun

[blazing oak]

@unreal dust DoW Dark Crusade, sorry

[cyan notch]

theres no healers no tanks nothing

everybody is dps

[olive ember]

But 16 bolters

[ruby plover]

rashad is always cursed

[hollow spindle]

@blazing oak I actually kind of want to go back to dawn of war 1

the campaign was fire

[blazing oak]

Never played the original

[cyan notch]

only 2 classes can use bolters

[blazing oak]

Just dark crusade

[hollow spindle]

I mean all the campaigns in that are good

[olive ember]

16 autopistols

[blazing oak]

Seriously we kind of do need a channel for other 40k video games

[hollow spindle]

If we had enough people I'd want to run 3v3 games in Dawn of war 2

that shit is FUN

[blazing oak]

How does that work

Is it just each person gets their three hero squads

[hollow spindle]

nah

you have your set base, a hero and then you build units.

then you fight over three strategic points for victory points and other resource nodes.

[blazing oak]

What’s the difference from dow1?

[hollow spindle]

you don't build base

at all

[worn ravine]

slaughterer or unstab pwr with deflector on force swoard

[blazing oak]

Alright

[worn ravine]

?

[hollow spindle]

lmao

[leaden thunder]

sluaght

[north cradle]

I'd say Slaughterer since you'd get way more Power faster than you would with Unstable Power

[worn ravine]

well said

[leaden thunder]

well unstable you can be at 80% peril and swap to your melee

[unreal dust]

You do build power gens at nodes, but that's bout it (unless you go Techmarine like a douche)

[leaden thunder]

but sluaghterer gives like

significantly more everything then unstable

[north cradle]

And then you quell peril passively and it goes away alongside the 10% chance to remove 10% Peril every time you get a kill -w-

[leaden thunder]

you just stroke your illisi

[north cradle]

Is he using Illisi

[leaden thunder]

idk

ust said force sowrd

[worn ravine]

illisi

[ruby plover]

if u have to pick one ya u take slaughterer

[worn ravine]

but id like to know deimos as well

[ruby plover]

but ideally u get both

[worn ravine]

alongside a autopistol

[ruby plover]

unstable deimos with no staff kinda poopoo

still take slaughterer tho

[worn ravine]

makes sense

guess it doesnt make sense to only build peril with bb

[north cradle]

There are no situations I can think of where Slaughterer is not the preferred blessing. It's the Swift Slaying of Darktide

[ruby plover]

slaughterer is really so dumb

🥴

[void mural]

It just does too many good things at once

[ruby plover]

and also the number is just wildly overtuned

[void mural]

Yeah

[blazing oak]

Who knew that [significant damage buff for doing normal thing] would be good

No nerf slaughterer without compensation weapon damage buffs

Slaughterer blessing is the Diamondback from Tf2 except without a downside

[void mural]

It also does so much more than just damage

[blazing oak]

Maybe explain that then

[worn ravine]

looking at buying this melk curio. i know alot of ppl run +1 wounds for dam. is it better than either of my current ones? or could it take wound spot?

[void mural]

Power increases dmg, cleave, and cleave damage. I feel like I'm missing something else too

[primal plume]

im missing a tube

[leaden thunder]

damage, cleave and stagger

[worn ravine]

didnt know that

[void mural]

Ah, stagger

[worn ravine]

dam

[leaden thunder]

the overall damage boost is what increases the cleave damage

[steel flame]

Slaughterer needs alternatives before they can even think about nerfing it. It is literally one of the only blessings that adds any significant power boost right now. Nerfing would just be a net loss for everyone as it stands now

[leaden thunder]

it doesn't increse distribution %s

[kind jay]

this isnt worth buying

[void mural]

For real. All the numbers for 75% of blessings need to go WAY up

[hollow spindle]

Slide Reload

[north solstice]

while i personally prefer having an additional wound my best advice is to try several runs with it and see if you like the additional health, although if you are playing psyker it is "easier" to maintain toughness although i may be speaking out of my ass on that

[void mural]

Should literally be 100% reload speed increase

[blazing oak]

If they nerf slaughterer without buffing chaxe power there’s gonna be sadness

[north solstice]

Deflector 🥰

[worn ravine]

i feel like snipers are the one thing that mess up my runs. is it better to buff toughness, rather than health?

[blazing oak]

The slide reload blessing is cool I just keep forgetting to use it before I run out of ammo in the clip

[void mural]

It's cool, but the number needs to be bugger

[hollow spindle]

It's a meme

[steel flame]

Snipers auto deplete toughness. It has no part of their damage calc

[north solstice]

^

[hollow spindle]

and whoever of the devs made it has a huge trollface

[ruby plover]

unless ur a veteran

[void mural]

I want to be able to slide reload my bolter in 1 second! Woo!

[north solstice]

i just make sure to be extra careful to not get hit but it does happen occasionally

[ruby plover]

in which case u can shamelessly tank snipers

[spice veldt]

they deal 10x toughness damage

[blazing oak]

Slide reload shotgun could be cool

If shotguns weren’t snipers

[north solstice]

lol

[spice veldt]

the other property is that if any of their damage touches your HP at all, it will dump the full damage onto your HP regardless of your toughness

[hollow spindle]

My veteran has 300 toughness and I can tank a sniper shot easy with F up

[spice veldt]

so it's all or nothing

[void mural]

For real, slide reload is on all the weapons that don't need it

[hollow spindle]

with loads of toughness left

[north solstice]

v*t

[cyan notch]

you can tank sniper shots with toughness

[ruby plover]

i run 60% sniper res on psyker doe

cuz like yeah

[blazing oak]

If you leave the helbore on the last stage of reloading it’s faster to switch to it and fire then normal switching

[ruby plover]

they will fuck u up

[north solstice]

how often do you get hit by snipers??

[ruby plover]

more than i die to other things

[worn ravine]

not about how often, when they do its game changing

[north solstice]

fair

[spice veldt]

in my case, often

i'm extremely bad at noticing things in my vision if they're not large

[blazing oak]

Just play sniper gauntlet with a flamer and you’ll learn to git gud at snipers

[steel flame]

Really.........I've done testing with it and adding toughness to my psyker has no effect on the damage snipers were dealing to health

[north solstice]

simply dont get hit guys 💁‍♀️

[spice veldt]

it's just a weird mechanic

[cyan notch]

cuz psyker has no dr

[north solstice]

they have like

ranged dmg reduction

thats about it

[spice veldt]

if your toughness is broken, they'll dump their full 122.5 damage onto you

[ruby plover]

(its also melee reduction)

[cyan notch]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/12SRmscif8wns6/d1337dJJHB1M?invite=cr-MSxucXQsMTczOTM4NDQ3LA

[north solstice]

????

[leaden thunder]

yeah

[north solstice]

is it actually bugged?

[leaden thunder]

same deal with vets one

no

or well

[ruby plover]

is there any source of ranged toughness damage reduction in the game

[leaden thunder]

not really

[ruby plover]

they all say it

[leaden thunder]

nope, it doesn't exist

[blazing oak]

Does vet ult perk not work?

[leaden thunder]

it's all

[spice veldt]

they probably didn't implement it

[ruby plover]

it does its just all damage

[leaden thunder]

not just ranged

[steel flame]

So it's like I just said with an exception towards veteren

[leaden thunder]

there is a couple things that just like

don't exist

ranged damage reduction is one of them

close range power is another

[void mural]

Oh, is that another lie?

[ruby plover]

u ever think about how martyrdom doesnt give power

[void mural]

Close range power is just power?

[leaden thunder]

nope

it's damage

[blazing oak]

Give me my navis armsmen class where I’m incentivized to shoot point blank shotguns into folks

[steel flame]

I mean ranged toughness Dr exists for psyker

[leaden thunder]

it is just close range damage

[ruby plover]

dawg

[leaden thunder]

so at least it's partially right

[leaden thunder]

nope

it's all

[void mural]

Oh, so wrong keyword, right range

[leaden thunder]

yeah

I think it also like

has fall off or something

[void mural]

Nope, it's just all toughness damage

the fatshark touch!

[spice veldt]

fatshark description-itis

maybe they wanted it to work that way but never got to actually implementing it

[void mural]

I think it's a combo of both across the whole game

[blazing oak]

I mean all toughness damage dr > than ranged only right?

[void mural]

Yeah, but it'd be nice to know

[spice veldt]

maybe, but then they'd have to balance around that

I hate ranged enemies more than melee enemies

[void mural]

Ok, cool... it's still not as strong as KD

[leaden thunder]

my guess is they'll just change the description eventually

[void mural]

Yeah

Soon tm

[leaden thunder]

they are finally getting around to fixing the incorrect brittlenss vs rending descriptions

[void mural]

Yeah, I noticed

[blazing oak]

It really is interesting to have all these things that do stuff that’s not part of the description and having no idea if it’s intentional so every patch is a worry fest of “is this cool interaction going to be removed”

[leaden thunder]

yep

[blazing oak]

Is the zealot perk that stops you receiving ranged stagger intentional or am I gonna have to switch to holy revenant

[void mural]

I feel like they could hire 1 dedicated person to just unify their tool tip wording and correct things

[blazing oak]

After April patch

[leaden thunder]

no idea

[void mural]

Like... their tooltips are probably just taken from a text file, I'd think

[leaden thunder]

like I am pretty sure they buffed fire frenzy

but didn't change what it said it does

[hollow spindle]

How`?

[leaden thunder]

it was in the patch notes for one

[hollow spindle]

hmm I missed that then

[leaden thunder]

it does just say for shotguns and ripper guns

Shotguns and Ripperguns

Fire Frenzy blessing fixed and rebalanced across the tiers:
From 4/6/80/10% to 7.5/10/12.5/15% per stack (still max stacks of 5)
Dev Note: “Tier 3 was bugged and could stack up to 400% damage bonus!”

[blazing oak]

You get FatShark to give you one answer to a question: what is it?

[void mural]

What happened to the story; did we just get the cutting room floor scraps, and what was planned originally?

[blazing oak]

I personally think it got scrapped

[void mural]

Same

[blazing oak]

Judging by character creation, there are two opposing design directions for the character we play

[void mural]

It's quite clear we got the leftovers that they stitched together as best they could

[blazing oak]

One is the you are faceless and that’s the background choices. The other is the 12 personalities and they are pseudo vt2 heroes

[hollow spindle]

No, it's quite clear they left blessing designs to the interns

while they were doing less than savoury things best left off social media

[blazing oak]

The blessings might be new additions after they scrapped the original crafting system

[void mural]

I personally think that's part of why the mission board is stupid and rng, but there's the occasional undertone of a story, like with the transmission mission vaguely being related to a traitor being on the mourningstar

[blazing oak]

If the blessings were not part of the original crafting system, it could explain how they were just trying to get what they could think of into the game before it came out

Leading to slide reload

[hollow spindle]

I still laugh every time I see slide reload

what a fucking joke

[void mural]

I think they had multiple teams of people brainstorming blessing ideas without talking to eachother, which is why the numbers vary so wildly

And there was no balancing pass before release

[hollow spindle]

I think you might be correct there.

Would explain a lot.

[blazing oak]

I would personally like it if the 12 personalities story thread overtook the personal reject story thread and the story became how the war changes and the 12 personalities are minor characters while the Zola morrow hadron and rannick are the major characters

[void mural]

I'd like any story?

[blazing oak]

You have any story

I watch level 30 cutscene so I can listen to Path of Trust music again

[void mural]

Lol, no we don't. We just have, "you suck, you suck a bit less, ok, you are accepted"

[blazing oak]

That’s a story

You said any story

[void mural]

I disagree

[blazing oak]

Did not specify length or quality

[void mural]

The point I'm making is that what they threw together isn't even a story, it's nothing

[blazing oak]

The story is: you are a reject on the ship. While you do missions and gain more trust, you learn of a heretic on the ship. The search for the heretic concludes as you reach full trust and they are executed as you gain honorary inquisition status

[olive ember]

Maybe the real Darktide story were the friends we made along the way

🙂

[void mural]

It's 5 people telling you to go away and work, and then someone you don't know dies

[blazing oak]

That’s oversimplification of it

[void mural]

That's the "story" I got from darktide

No story

[hollow spindle]

I honestly believe they're adding in narrative campaign later

[blazing oak]

The “story” I got was a reject that survived the odds and gained some respect while Rannick hunts down a heretic on the ship

[hollow spindle]

they just didn't have time for it for launch

[blazing oak]

It’s not a good story

But it’s a story

[olive ember]

I mean 1984 was just about a guy and a girl trying to have sex and coffee and getting caught

was it coffee

[void mural]

The story started, then went nowhere and ended with unrelated plot points

[blazing oak]

No not really

You became an honorary inquisition member

That’s not really super unrelated

[clear heath]

gets called
"who are you? why are you even here?"

[void mural]

The traitor thing. There should have been literally any player involvement. There was none, hence unrelatedness

[olive ember]

impeccable writing

you don't know that we were summoned toegether

clearly we were bait

[blazing oak]

You gotta think of the bigger picture, not just the cutscenes in the middle of the level up process

To understand that the bad story they told was still a story

Even if it was bad

[void mural]

If they wanted a "bigger picture" then they need to add a "bigger picture"

[steel flame]

we need a picture first

[blazing oak]

That is not what I meant and you know it

[void mural]

I get what you're saying, but I disagree that it qualifies as a story

[steel flame]

or maybe a frame to put said picture in cause there is no frame work for a story either

[void mural]

There's 1 cutscene talking about a traitor, then later 1 cutscene where they die

[steel flame]

its two small sections cut from a story and then called a story

[blazing oak]

That’s not the entire thing though

[void mural]

We don't even know what they were traitoring about other than a chaos mark

[blazing oak]

It’s a subplot of the story stapled onto the original plot given by the prologue

Stapled badly

[steel flame]

why are they traitoring, who are they traitoring? HOW are they traitering

I DEMAND ANSWERS

[void mural]

They had the start of story with us getting on the morningstar, and the end of a story, with us getting officially accepted. No middle ground because every in between cutscene was just various characters calling us trash

[blazing oak]

At least they do introduce the melk and hadron stations though

[thorny socket]

I felt like the Mazozi cutscene was weird

[blazing oak]

Hold on dornam there is character development

[thorny socket]

Its too late in the leveling for her to treat us like we're comeplete strangers

[blazing oak]

In one hadron cutscene the reject is late, in a later hadron cutscene the reject is early!

Character development!

[thorny socket]

She still tells us she wishes she got to have us killed

[blazing oak]

and?

Never said she was nice

[olive ember]

the reject late cutscene isn't a part of the leveling experience

its the cutscene tied to unlocking the "crafting" system

[blazing oak]

That’s tied to the leveling though

[olive ember]

well no you see

I had all my characters at 30 before the crafting was unlocked

not leveling

[blazing oak]

Was that in the beta?

[olive ember]

not initially no

[blazing oak]

Because creating a new character it says that the shrine of the Omnissiah opens at level x

[steel flame]

i feel like mazozi has no reason to have such a high station in darktide like she does. is she the leader of the flight division? all we know is that she is a pilot. what authority does she have

that always confused me

[clear heath]

I assumed she was important because she seems to give us some of the mission briefings, but i have no idea why either

[blazing oak]

She seems to be acquainted with morrow and Zola so maybe it’s favoritism

[fierce sinew]

do people actually think there is or is going to be a """story""" rather than the digital analogue to flavor text

[clear heath]

no

[thorny socket]

She makes bets with Rannick (if she's telling the truth) so I imagine she's just an invaluable pilot

[steel flame]

i mean i guess, but a pilot shouldnt be acting as our mission commander right? so she has to have some station of authority RIGHT?

[void mural]

The best I think we'll get is a couple of added cutscenes that weren't finished on release

[rustic falcon]

Isn’t she called wing commander by someone?

[void mural]

I'd wish for a total revamp... but I'm not hopeful

[fierce sinew]

any resource spent on storytelling in a game like this is a resource wasted, hope they don't

[thorny socket]

I always found it weird we don't speak in any cutscene past the prologue

[steel flame]

THE ONLY REASON WE EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF THE SHIP MISTRISS IS IS BECAUSE OF OFF HAND DIOLOGUE. THIS INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT PEOPLE

[thorny socket]

Granted we don't say much in the prologue either but atleast it was something

[void mural]

That'd require more voice acting! We can't afford that, don't you know?!

[blazing oak]

Maybe mazosi has the station of being our reject squad assigned pilot

[olive ember]

I mean

most of the story is via the youtube channel

the vox wte they are called

[blazing oak]

They have a pilot for each reject squad or something

[fierce sinew]

they're all masozis

[blazing oak]

That’s why she didn’t recognize us

We went up to the wrong clone

During the cutscene

[fierce sinew]

like every bartender in loa is a different person all called neria

[steel flame]

oh god we have the nurse joy of pilots

[fierce sinew]

an entire flight division of weird neoafrican gambling addicts

[thorny socket]

Mazozi is actually Tzeentch

[twilit flicker]

We are in a simulation

[steel flame]

if every mazozi is a wing commander, who is the wing commander commander?

[blazing oak]

Morrow probably

Morrow Zola and rannick are the only real humans that are not us

Everything else is a clone

Everyone else is alpharius

[steel flame]

i love how the random ass convicts know more story details about the important figures than we do

[blazing oak]

It’s to make casual players want to know more about 40k

[steel flame]

they should in no way conceivably know jack shit about marrow

[blazing oak]

Eh. My loner psyker I think believes the morrow stuff is just hearsay

[thorny socket]

I heard he fired the shot that gave old one eye it's name!

[blazing oak]

I think it’s rumors

You know what it is? It’s probably mazosi running her mouth during card games with the rejects and then the rumors spiral from there

[steel flame]

fair enough

[twilit flicker]

Not totally, the psykers know he's old old

[blazing oak]

What if all the info is just psykers reading the mind of morrow and rannick and then it goes from there

[fierce sinew]

the psykers read minds, if the convicts are all talking they all know

very easy for them to just handwave with psykers involved

literal magic, shut up etc

[blazing oak]

Rannick looking at indomitus reports = talk about that from psykers = Ogryn hears that while walking around = Ogryn brings it up during mission

[unreal dust]

So... ... I'm ready to be a Wildfire Stan. I have decided I like it over Warp Battery for my Hi-Shock runs. (Purg+Deimos)
Consider: Warp Battery only works at 6 stacks, Wildfire works all the time.
This also frees the Psyker up to take Aura over Communion
In the madness of Hi-Shock, it allows a single line of sustained fireto clean up the 'fringes' of an inbound horde that normally spread as the horde's leading edge staggers and forces rear poxwalkers to spread around.

[steel flame]

at least vermintide 2 didnt pretend there was a story that was happening that didnt exist

[fierce sinew]

darktide doesn't either, only knuckle dragging redditors do

[cursive marten]

which one to choose surge on void strike or a good duelling sword.

I dont have enough for both :C

[clear heath]

people use duelling swords?

[steel flame]

surge, or just wait a day

[unreal dust]

What do you use currently?

[feral verge]

dueling swords are pretty much completely overshadowed by the new deimos sword

[steel flame]

diemos is better than dueling sword rn

oops

[clear heath]

lol

[fierce sinew]

in the 41st millennium there are no dueling swords

only duelling swords

which are similar, but less literate

[olive ember]

ewww deimos

[cursive marten]

I'm purgatus staff rn

[olive ember]

surge is kinda bad

[twilit flicker]

Maan I'm tilted, our team threw at the comms plex finale. We started with two psykers and two vets, the other psyker left and got replaced by another vet.
Two vets couldnt stick together and we got taken out one by one by a horde with shotgunners and a mutant. One of the solo vets and myself did the carrying, I was using a revolver lol, I think that might have been why psyker left, we wasn't around for long.

[olive ember]

duelling swords are also kinda bad

just um

[olive ember]

I mean

surge blessing is p bad

[fierce sinew]

I don't think ds are bad, just overshadowed

[olive ember]

surge staff is great

[fierce sinew]

deimos is just cracked

[olive ember]

meta even

[steel flame]

fuuuu both sour milk and brunt only have dueling swords and auto guns

[olive ember]

I mean duelling sword has been B tier ever since they hard nerfed movement tech

[unreal dust]

OH! the Blessing. Thought you meant the staff

[olive ember]

that was like

[unreal dust]

Surge Blessing is okay... ... but it needs to pair with Nexus for more crit chance to shine

[olive ember]

was about to say

[feral verge]

there's no point in me playing my zealot anymore

[steel flame]

the best option would be to wait for a reroll tomarrow

[fierce sinew]

as a mobility stick + specialized antimaniac tool they were completely fine after the nerf

[feral verge]

this is on my psyker melee wannabe-zealot build

[fierce sinew]

mkv in particular

[olive ember]

surge blessing being mid is like about as milque toast of a take you can get

[feral verge]

i can do more damage than zealot, and take less damage than zealot

[fierce sinew]

they just decided to make something that did that but more

[cursive marten]

ok I will buy the surge and bank it for now

[steel flame]

thats a....thats some serious overkill damage there. what in the world you hittin those poor people with

[gilded viper]

The wraith of god

[feral verge]

this

i had surge staff, but i only used it like 5 times

[steel flame]

those poor heretics

[unreal dust]

Yeah, that's what I expected. Shame you didn't get Bloodthirsty on it

[feral verge]

i dont want bloodthirsty

i am a high peril build and benefit 1000% more with unstable power

[unreal dust]

Why wouldn't you for Illisi?

[feral verge]

high peril build

i would rather 20% power at all times

with unstable power

[olive ember]

filthy high peril player

disgusting

[unreal dust]

... 5% bro

[feral verge]

bruh

[olive ember]

20%

5% per stack

4 stacks

[feral verge]

thnak you

for explaining

[unreal dust]

That's a terrible damn tooltip!

[feral verge]

ya'll should know this by now

thanks fatshark

[primal radish]

first time psyker?

[gilded viper]

5% is 5% tho

[olive ember]

welcome to darktide

and psyker

[unreal dust]

cries in the corner

[steel flame]

welcome to fatshark land

[olive ember]

don't worry we explain it to someone new every day it feels like

[feral verge]

unstable power is 2nd best blessing, right behind slaughterer

[gilded viper]

Welcome to the English language more like it

[feral verge]

bloodthirsty is mid in comparison

[olive ember]

3rd, right behind deflector

[feral verge]

3rd or 4th place

for bloodthirsty

[olive ember]

It used to be better, but they decided "yeah that perk which gives you 5 seconds of crits? make it one hit"

so yeah

bricked

[feral verge]

i am not going to rank deflector because it's just a neat utility

[unreal dust]

Deflector is a hot take

[feral verge]

it's a preference

[gilded viper]

Sad they remove the 5sec crit thing, never got to use it

[olive ember]

Eh i wouldn't have used it anyways

kinda jank

well on the illisi i would've

[spice veldt]

don't call my pre-patch bloodthirsty jank >:(

[primal radish]

old bloodthirsty on illisi would be s tier

[steel flame]

it was meh on obscurus. it had terrible attack patterns and couldnt actually make use of the 5s crit window very well

[gilded viper]

No lie after using the bug deflector, deflector kinda go hard, yes it a clutch but sometimes shit happen and blocking range help shit not go down bad

[spice veldt]

you absolutely could have made use of it

[unreal dust]

That surprise Shotgunner at the corner, yeah

[spice veldt]

5 seconds was enough to build 5 slaughterer stacks off of dreg bruisers

[long wharf]

as much fun as it was, it was destined to be brought in line with the rest of the Bloodthirsty blessings for other melee weapons

[olive ember]

"in line" as in useless and never taken kekw

[gilded viper]

Stalker spawning from the abyss

[steel flame]

GREAT USE OF IT

[unreal dust]

Stalker?

[steel flame]

HAPPY?

[spice veldt]

still great as long as you stuck to the light->heavy combo

[olive ember]

the true combo

better than that deimos cancer

[steel flame]

it would have been power sword all over again if they had left it at 5s

[olive ember]

fuck the deimos

[gilded viper]

Scab stalkers, the guy with the smg lasgun (mostly get a few shotgunners with them)

[olive ember]

exactly

[blazing oak]

Scab stalkers are the flak armored shooters that have no faceplate and have a bandolier

[kind jay]

i like blood on illussy. let's me do special h1 into a crit h2. ill spam special h1 in mixed hordes

[feral verge]

the fatass' deimos

[kind jay]

but ultimately yeah it's not like a huge thing anymore

[blazing oak]

The “ussy” meme has lost all of its weird meaning

[gilded viper]

Psyussy

I'm sorry

[blazing oak]

Never was funny, and now it’s something you just staple onto words without any rhyme or reason other than to indicate you have a positive opinion of it

[long wharf]

as you should be.

[kind jay]

it's funny to me and that's good enough

[gilded viper]

People are weird, then again I'm weird too, I can't stop laughing at the mental pipe dropping meme...I think I have a problem

[feral verge]

yeah im out

[bold flint]

Diamantussy

[long wharf]

you might

sometimes weird is good... but it isn't automatically good.

[unreal dust]

What's the issue?

[feral verge]

shieldgryn

[gilded viper]

Shield oygrn

[bold flint]

weapon elitism

[long wharf]

oof, toxic elitism, smh

[feral verge]

i want to win

so i left

[gilded viper]

No lie I wish fat shark buff the weapon just for me to have another reason to tell them to attack the horde and not just stand there

[long wharf]

if you want a guaranteed fast win, should stick to Sedition missions

[unreal dust]

... what's the problem?

[feral verge]

you cant tell me you've never sighed when you've seen someone use a bad weapon in damnation?

[long wharf]

that way it doesn't matter who brings what, you'll steamroll it

[unreal dust]

Its base level Damnation. Who cares?

[long wharf]

I don't consider shield ogryns automatically bad

depends entirely on the player

[feral verge]

it's more than just the weapon

[gilded viper]

I can't blame mankar too much

[feral verge]

usually those that bring it aren't in the know

[gilded viper]

I rarely get good shield user

And most of them actual play like bot

[feral verge]

i want a fun game. carrying games for me isn't fun

is that so bad

[unreal dust]

It makes finding ones who do know that much more special. A good Shieldgryn, like an actually good one, is magical. I feel so safe.

[feral verge]

fun to me = everyone is pulling their weight in the hardest game difficulty

[unreal dust]

Did a Hi-Shock clear with a Shieldgryn. It was amazing

[long wharf]

nah, it's not bad

[feral verge]

shieldgryn puts the weight into everyone else

[long wharf]

that's not what you're being criticized about, though, either

[gilded viper]

Thing is I feel like a good shield ogryn would just not use shield but this is pure ignorance on me

[blazing oak]

The only time I sigh is when I’m playing surge psyker and another psyker rocks up with their surge staff

[long wharf]

a good shield ogryn knows when and where to use that shield

[feral verge]

most aren't good

[long wharf]

and an impenetrable barrier can be situationally life saving

[blazing oak]

Playing surge psyker when another surge psyker is on the team is not fun for me

[long wharf]

this is definitely iffy

[spice veldt]

i have zero trust in shield ogryns on my team

[gilded viper]

Double surge

[unreal dust]

The one I played with wouldn't use it too often, but he'd post up corners at bigger rooms so I could pop off snipers and other massed gun packs.

[feral verge]

me

[long wharf]

with multiple psykers, it's important to balance out who is using what

[spice veldt]

almost all of them have just relied on shield and just did nothing whenever there was a fight

[rancid burrow]

I gotta show this off https://i.imgur.com/EwgbAlG.jpeg

[blazing oak]

Triple and quadruple surge is a meme, but double surge is just see ya later and I want to disconnect

[spice veldt]

which isn't necessarily bad, but I'd prefer DPS output from my team

[long wharf]

that's nice

[unreal dust]

Doubled up Psyker weapons is rough. Doable, but rough

[rancid burrow]

Now let's see everyone tear it apart

Like everyone does to everything I use

[feral verge]

i'm gonna be that guy who mentions hours. i have over 550 hours of experience in this game, and over that experience, i've learned that shieldgryn's cannot be depended upon in damnation

[bold flint]

doubled up void is bussin

nothing lives

[rancid burrow]

@feral vergeAgreed

700 hours

The shield blocking your own bullets makes them more of a hinderance

[spice veldt]

eh, you could always leave your team to avoid them blocking your bullets

[gilded viper]

I had a few good shield ogyrn but those shield user just never use special or rarely use it which made them 100x useless then most of them

[unreal dust]

Or just use a staff like a good psyker boi

[rancid burrow]

Naw shield ogyrn

This is my main staff https://i.imgur.com/wEPvHOT.jpeg

[gilded viper]

Think he mean in general not just psyker

[ashen sphinx]

where would I go to get help with the psyker penances

[feral verge]

yeah, it's not just the weapon itself. it's the user too who not always, but usually doesn't really know the game in-depth. for starters, if they did, they owuld know that the "pros" of this community have rejected the shield for several huge reasons

[kind jay]

nothing wrong with it except maybe swap shred out

[rancid burrow]

I've got nothing better atm and since power dirrectly correlates to damage now I'll have to keep it

[gilded viper]

The lfg channel #vox-lfg-nasa

[ashen sphinx]

ty 🙂

[long wharf]

Shred isn't bad with the Illisi

because you attack quickly

[spice veldt]

only if you light-spam

which you shouldn't be doing

[rancid burrow]

It is absolutely the person yes. You can use the shield well, but you always notice the bad ones, never the good ones

[cyan notch]

no plasteel certified noob

[feral verge]

in damnation, i think it's for the benefit of everyone to bring your a-game. if you want to have fun using whatever goofy/undercooked build of your choosing, take that into heresy

[gilded viper]

Isn't the illisi light spam good tho?

[spice veldt]

2 cleave compared to 6 cleave

and h1 is spammable with QQ

[long wharf]

it is

[spice veldt]

why would you ever not heavy

[rancid burrow]

motherfucker DO YOU SEE THOSE WEAPONS!?!?!?!

lmfao

[spice veldt]

is this why people think the obscurus is shit

[rancid burrow]

Nah, charged heavy attacks on small units

[long wharf]

nah, that's because the obscurus has a terrible moveset

[cyan notch]

i see 1 blue recon

[rancid burrow]

This well bring it over the edge for flak head enemies and stuff

[blazing oak]

Isn’t it more noob to have all the plasteel because it means you are refusing to interface with the rng

[spice veldt]

2nd heavy is still good

[gilded viper]

Maybe

[rancid burrow]

It's because the delay between the power hit and the bang too i think

[cyan notch]

lights are good for fast hits

[spice veldt]

also crits having reduced power the 2nd target and beyond on normal attacks

[cyan notch]

sometimes u dont have time to charge up attacks

[rancid burrow]

I one shot most small units to the head on damnation

I'm talking poxwalkers and stuff

[spice veldt]

for 2-4 targets, it's comparable since the cleave is really the only differentiator between lights and heavies

but for more than that, you should absolutely be using heavies

there is no excuse when pushing exists

or just spamming dodges

[gilded viper]

I suck at this game

[rancid burrow]

You can use a charged light to stun a crusher

[spice veldt]

charged lights are fine

they have the same cleave as heavies so idgaf

[rancid burrow]

And I don't really need more than one charged light and then combo'd heavy attack

[spice veldt]

their cleave distribution is meh but the cleave is good enough

[gilded viper]

And for some reason kinda went into the weapon as "heavy sword but for psyker "

[rancid burrow]

Oh that sword needs to be charged at all times

That's why I use Warp Absorption with it

[cloud sequoia]

Not really its decent

[rancid burrow]

Light attack, heavy attack, reset

That's your swarm combo

[cyan notch]

its pretty bad compared to the others

[long wharf]

hard disagree, but if you like it, that's fine

[cyan notch]

the other 2 have spammable lights that are usable in addition to horde combos

[gilded viper]

The moveset was the biggest turnoff for me even once I learn the optimal route

[cyan notch]

obscurus just has 1 combo that ur forced to use for everything

[spice veldt]

but performance wise, the obscurus was fine

[rancid burrow]

It is the absolute worst force sword though

It was fine when it was all we had but now? I'll never use it

[gilded viper]

I haven't use it since the patch but they did buff it damage so

[spice veldt]

I agree that virtually every combo besides light->heavy sucks ass, but the light->heavy itself is fine

[blazing oak]

If it makes you feel better, the people here and on the Reddit are probably better than the average player so that most likely includes you

[cyan notch]

even that wasnt that great it was kinda slow sometimes

i got hit out of my heavy charge occasionally

[gilded viper]

[rancid burrow]

Also people are victims of the Dunning-Krueger Effect I bet you're good enough

[spice veldt]

though I usually got my toughness back up fairly quickly

[rancid burrow]

People really shaft psyker in particular

[spice veldt]

just spamming infinite dodges lets you avoid hits most of the time

[olive ember]

thats what we call a "skill issue"

[blazing oak]

When I spam dodges it starts giving me a delay before I can dodge again with force sword

[cyan notch]

probably

[rancid burrow]

And those who say that are what I call douchebags

[blazing oak]

So I start jumping because controller means dodge is jump buttons

[spice veldt]

just gotta time it or use a macro

[olive ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

its true tho

anyways wat are you guys talking about

[rancid burrow]

It's true but explaining the shortcomings is productive while "skill issue lul" is insulting

[blazing oak]

Implying darktide needs skill? According to redditors and discorders darktide is a fking easy game who needs skill

Damnation high shock = vt2 recruit

[gilded viper]

Feel like people shot talk bb alot while I was over here like " I can fuck bulwark without losing my hair when playing zealot"

Shit*

[rancid burrow]

Darktide's easy.

Playing public games is hard.

[spice veldt]

probably just players who started out as psyker and never played other classes

[gilded viper]

But now bulwark is fix so their stagger don't randomly reset

[spice veldt]

not knowing what it's like as a lasgun vet trying to kill a bulwark

[blazing oak]

Yeah. The game that rewards teamwork is much easier when the teamwork is utilized…

[olive ember]

very hard game

[hollow spindle]

Meanwhile a psyker with an illisi just destroys a bulwark in 1 hit

[gilded viper]

Psyker was my 3rd class (might as well be last since my ogyrn still level 7)

[hollow spindle]

[olive ember]

thats why Psword nerf is bullshit

[rancid burrow]

@hollow spindleBro we were just talking about that, you're gonna get shat on lol

[hollow spindle]

Like I give a fuck

[olive ember]

made the psword useless

smh

[rancid burrow]

I actually find it okay

It requires the blessing

[olive ember]

irredeemable

fucking whats the point

might as well use a claw

[rancid burrow]

Cleave damage

Simple as that

If you're on Vet that sword only comes out as a last resort

[hollow spindle]

@olive ember We meed to go on a quest against the developers to make the accatran viable

[rancid burrow]

You were talking about the illisi, check this out

[hollow spindle]

Holy moly

I like that

Mine is just better because blessings

[rancid burrow]

When I got that sword I was ecstatic

[hollow spindle]

I can imagine

[rancid burrow]

i got it as a white so it was very risky

[hollow spindle]

Dude, the first day I got to 30 on my psyker

[rancid burrow]

I think Unstable Power is absolute garbage

[cloud sequoia]

?????

[rancid burrow]

I want you to read Slaughterer's effect

[hollow spindle]

I crafted these

[rancid burrow]

And then Unstable Power

[long wharf]

no need to BB bulwarks when you can lightning them

[rancid burrow]

You'll quickly see unstable power's almost useless

[cloud sequoia]

Not everything i need slaugherer like buff

[hollow spindle]

@ember hornet

[spice veldt]

maybe, but there's not much competition from the other blessings

[cloud sequoia]

Unstable power buff is more easy to achieve

[ember hornet]

unstable is quite good for 1 shot breakpoints

[rancid burrow]

5% isn't enough to justify the slot space imo

[cloud sequoia]

While slaughterer need kill yknow

[ember hornet]

it's 20%

[spice veldt]

it's 5% per stack

[ember hornet]

not 5

[cloud sequoia]

20%

[spice veldt]

you get a stack at 20/40/60/80% peril

[gilded viper]

[hollow spindle]

I like how quickly I can summon you lazor LMAO

[rancid burrow]

It literally says "Up to 5% power"

[spice veldt]

fatsharked

[cloud sequoia]

It lied

[hollow spindle]

Welcome to fatshark games

[ember hornet]

I just got back to being on discord, good timing

[rancid burrow]

Nah I don't believe you guys

I'm gonna test this out

[ember hornet]

uh

there's literally an icon for the stacks

[hollow spindle]

Well have one realizing that you're missing out on a great blessing

[olive ember]

One day the recon will be great again

huh lazorr is in psyker chat 1 instead of psyker chat 2

[cyan notch]

a lot of stuff said up to x power before didnt they

[olive ember]

how rare

[rancid burrow]

Which blessing stacks? I've been talking about Unstable Power.

[cyan notch]

they just didnt fix all of the tooltips lmao

[ember hornet]

Unstable power

[rancid burrow]

Shred stacks, slaughterer stacks

[hollow spindle]

I'm not holding my hopes hight, but I want to cope.

[spice veldt]

look at the buff icons at the lower right when you raise your peril up

[rancid burrow]

I al

[spice veldt]

oops lower left