the fucken ammo roll is too low
#psyker-class
leaden thunder
bitter escarp
I rolled three nice ones
on my psyker
vet still hasn't seen a usable agripinaa infantry autogun
bitter escarp
it's been stability or ammo
leaden thunder
and I think that's both a stat problem and a balance problem
worn cypress
I think a bit of the "you dont need max stats" is said a lot bc a lot of people started having takes like "I cant play damnation because crafting sucks"
leaden thunder
bitter escarp
I think a bit of the "you dont need max stats" is said a lot bc a lot of people ...
yeah it's a reasonable pushback in that context
worn cypress
but it is repeated way too much even to people who just likes minmaxing
bitter escarp
but if you do want godrolls because that's what you want
worn cypress
ya
leaden thunder
I am someone who very much likes messing around with builds(not min maxing exactly but close)
bitter escarp
great, I'm already doing fine with the gear I have, I just want the Warhammer 40k
leaden thunder
and it is very hard to do that alot of times
like the affor mentioned power sword I have locked sluaght 3 and garbage perks(though 1 is by choice since I want to push attack more)
blazing oak
great, I'm already doing fine with the gear I have, I just want the Warhammer 40...
As further supporting evidence: I’m taking a 311 Deimos into heresy and damnation
bitter escarp
also some weapons are just extra hard fucking work to get blessings on
leaden thunder
so I was able to test both supercahrge
and bm
to see which one was better
that was like
really nice to be able to test and mess around with
bitter escarp
because they're standalone and not part of a family
blazing oak
The grind for blessings is just going to get worse and worse as more weapons are added for classes
FatShark should overhaul it when they have the chance
leaden thunder
because they're standalone and not part of a family
or they have like garbage bloated pools
blazing oak
Or increase melk and servitor offering
bitter escarp
Fatshark should do a lot of things
bitter escarp
like learn from VT2
leaden thunder
getting a perfect thunderhammer
bitter escarp
look where we are
blazing oak
Hey is it me or do melks contracts not start counting until you check what they are
leaden thunder
yep
bitter escarp
getting a perfect thunderhammer
have an unyielding 4/maniac 4 + thrust 3/slaught 4
blazing oak
Also they don’t tell me during a mission anymore if I completed the contracts
leaden thunder
it's not just you
bitter escarp
the damage roll could be a bit higher though
blazing oak
Why’d they remove the in-mission notifications of when you completed a contract
leaden thunder
a what I consider perfect ironhelm(since I think thrust isnt worth on it becuase if you want big bonks use the crucis)
but the stats are like
rain saddle
dis can 1 shot almost all damnation specials lol
leaden thunder
not that good
bitter escarp
yeah that's on the crucis
feral topaz
like the thunderhammer
Yup, still cant get the dream setup
leaden thunder
my crucis is sluaght 4 and thrust 3 with good perks luckily
but thunderhammers have a terrible pool to work with
bitter escarp
yeah lot of fucken garbage
leaden thunder
it is full of just garbage blessings
like shock and awe
ignoring hit mass seems good right
bitter escarp
doesn't do what it's supposed to do
bitter escarp
and what it's supposed to do ain't right
leaden thunder
no it does what it is ment to do
but the thunder hammer
cannot damage more then 3 enemies
with it's heavy
ever
bitter escarp
haven't noticed them as much on other weapons
blazing oak
Give surge a blessing that increases damage taken by stunned enemies or something
feral topaz
It does
leaden thunder
uhh
bitter escarp
yeah you have to get a decent haymaker roll to clear things worth a damn on OG bully club
feral topaz
Thats why ppl dont use the old club without haymaker
bitter escarp
worth a damn bar set kinda high by BB Mk3
leaden thunder
but most that aren't on that list either a) can't cleave enough to matter or b) are cleave monsters
also
throwback to psyker's psy opsing themselves to only spam antax push attacks
even with bm
bitter escarp
lol
leaden thunder
it lasted way way too long
blazing oak
How does hunting grounds help with pick n mix when my teammates just shoot dogs :(
bitter escarp
ask I guess
leaden thunder
I managed to get that one naturally somehow
I think we ended up losing afterwards
feral topaz
Heresy hi intensity
bitter escarp
sweet spot yeah
leaden thunder
I did it on either normal damn or hi int damn in the torrent mission
near the end
feral topaz
Need 4 warp charges but
leaden thunder
we then lost at the end
bitter escarp
did it on Logistratum
feral topaz
Very doable
bitter escarp
trying to juggle two ammo capsules
feral topaz
I did it on silo cluster
leaden thunder
I still find it funny that I got "out with a bang" on vet
blazing oak
5 armored ragers
The Vet on my team 
bitter escarp
went fuck this and clapped a couple specials and a few ragers
leaden thunder
and not psyker
bitter escarp
Classic fatshark
feral topaz
The Vet on my team <:OmegaGuardsmanHype:968494575842889758>
My team had no vet lol
blazing oak
The only time I got a class specific achievement without going for it was the Vet one with the last round killing multiple enemies
feral topaz
Lucky sod
leaden thunder
very
bitter escarp
apparently plasma explosion is spicier and has larger radius
blazing oak
I thought I’d never get long bomb but then on the ammo collecting mission I threw it from the dropship to the stairs you come from and I somehow got it
leaden thunder
though I do think I actually did blow myself up on purpose
bitter escarp
than perils sudoku
leaden thunder
since I literally could not deal with the elites with the heat I was at
blazing oak
I just had scraped up a discord group to get going out with a bang
bitter escarp
I got it with a surge staff on one of the enclavum missions, had to zap the gunners to keep them still
blazing oak
A weight had been lifted that day
bitter escarp
did it with randos
lunar hollow
found 3 shotgunners
blazing oak
Y’all must have just bad teammates
lunar hollow
and blasted
bitter escarp
just told them I might go down once or twice that area
leaden thunder
last penance I got naturally was heavywieght champion
which is like
not hard to get now
with the increased ogryn spawns
blazing oak
My teammates are always the competent shoot everything before I can do anything
lunar hollow
with the increased ogryn spawns
true
my favorite moment was 6 crushers spawning on low int damnation
lunar hollow
im like "bro im here for the mats" and these crushers were ready to give me a CHALLENGE
blazing oak
The only time all of my teammates were shit was in a single uprising
bitter escarp
My teammates are always the competent shoot everything before I can do anything
make sure your vet is running camo expert
they will put down roots
blazing oak
I always stick with my team on heresy because I play surge so I never have time to bb the five ragers
leaden thunder
I had one mission where like
blazing oak
Achievements are just harder for me for some reason :(
blazing oak
The only achievement I’ve gotten that seems to be harder for everyone else is “abhor the mutant”
void mural
I'm happy I finally got the uninterruptible blessing for trauma staff, so I can finally make the staff I want, just now I have to fight RNG... woo...
leaden thunder
my first time using my new plasma gun
and I def could tell it's weaknesses
I literally could not deal with enemies fast enough and it was on low int damn
void mural
I'm curious, what would you do to plasma gun to make it actually a decent gun?
bitter escarp
yeah I sigh a bit internally when I see a plasma vet
it's like knife zealot
odds are stacked
bitter escarp
you say this
leaden thunder
thing does have a niche even if it's not good
blazing oak
Do plasma guns even consume ammo in universe?
bitter escarp
scraped a mf off the ground so many times
blazing oak
Just electricity?
bitter escarp
dude ran that many wounds for a reason ig
leaden thunder
I'm curious, what would you do to plasma gun to make it actually a decent gun?
triple ammo, reduce heat gen and remove damage from venting
bitter escarp
they do, hydrogen flasks or something
void mural
IMO, plasma guns need to not use ammo, and vent needs to not consume hp.
bitter escarp
also most of the time the gunner lifespan is shorter than the ammo cap
blazing oak
So for pick n mix just okay heresy high int and hope for the best
leaden thunder
I think it's fine to have it use ammo, but it does not have enough
void mural
Why make venting finally not do damage to the caster class, but then ring it back for the only venting ranged weapon for other classes?
leaden thunder
blazing oak
I’m still baffled by people that say they got it from hunting grounds easily
bitter escarp
in universe plasma gunner duty is a dubious honour
leaden thunder
I am pretty sure they designed the plasma gun before they made a lot of other shit
bitter escarp
idk if it's still permanently Gets Hot! in the new eds
void mural
Also, why tie it to ammo? Vent weapons never had ammo before
blazing oak
in universe plasma gunner duty is a dubious honour
My imperial guard army against chaos space marines in dawn of war:
leaden thunder
they where scared of it being good for some reason
feral topaz
Why make venting finally not do damage to the caster class, but then ring it ba...
You seek consistency in the shark, foolish, this is
blazing oak
Where I only give them plasma guns
void mural
You seek consistency in the shark, foolish, this is
Too true
bitter escarp
Where I only give them plasma guns
"that's illegal, shoot them or something"
blazing oak
Our damage from venting is mental from all the chaos whispering in our ears
bitter escarp
psychological, from seeing the fingerprint burned into the casing from the previous guy
every time you shoot and it starts getting hot you smell roast pork
void mural
Have what?
blazing oak
Actually suggested change: fix surge bug where staggered enemy doesn’t get immunity to surge
leaden thunder
the charge meter
blazing oak
You seek consistency in the shark, foolish, this is
Speaking of inconsistency, certain enemy stagger animations seem tailored for certain sources
bitter escarp
does the Surge blessing work/roll for Surge staff secondary?
bitter escarp
IIRC it didn't, be a fantastic tweak
feral topaz
Speaking of inconsistency, certain enemy stagger animations seem tailored for ce...
likewise brittleness makes bursters immune to stagger
leaden thunder
blazing oak
Just give surge unique blessings
feral topaz
Which is random af
bitter escarp
but immediate power cycler status
leaden thunder
likewise brittleness makes bursters immune to stagger
or at least it reduces stagger
idk if it makes them fully immune
void mural
Stagger immunity is the dumbest thing
leaden thunder
the stagger reduction thing
blazing oak
The feeling when dogs become immune to surge because they are in an animation of jumping over some box
bitter escarp
just buffer the dog stun or something
leaden thunder
if you have less then 50% rending/brittlenss
then it reduces stagger
and brittlness
bitter escarp
it finishes the jump but spasms immediately after
leaden thunder
can only ever go to 40%
blazing oak
Why do people say dog space program is over? Dog flight program is definitely still here
bitter escarp
yeah it's flight program now not Mars program
feral topaz
I had caused the murders of countless innoecents
leaden thunder
void mural
Why do people say dog space program is over? Dog flight program is definitely st...
It's definitely less often, but yeah, still exists, along with the 720 spin dog
feral topaz
Because I shot it with a bolter with penetrating impact
bitter escarp
I'm learning this now
feral topaz
Its real dumb
leaden thunder
I assume it's a bug
bitter escarp
and some cockups make a lot more sense now
leaden thunder
like the one it used to have where it could reduce damage
blazing oak
I’ve learned that surge is just kind of buggy around the edges of its area
blazing oak
If an enemy just comes into surge range when you fire it doesn’t surge it
blazing oak
Seeing the electricity spark but no
leaden thunder
zealot ult confirmed intended 
blazing oak
I can’t tell you the times I’ve been hit or shot because of that
feral topaz
Which is so fucking WEIRD
leaden thunder
rashad is sorta intended as well
as far as I can tell
they gave some weapons body prio
feral topaz
rashad is sorta intended as well
...no shot
hollow spindle
Goddamn horrible hangover...but on the plus side my voidstrike is now as good as it can get for the moment.
leaden thunder
as a sort of shitty balance mechanic
hollow spindle
blazing oak
Think they’ll ever buff surge # of targets or something
leaden thunder
I think the chainsword has it as well
blazing oak
Or make it based on charge
bitter escarp
would settle for aiming it tbh
feral topaz
as a sort of shitty balance mechanic
...so yer saying, I wasted 3k on a rashad for my vet, which I will never use
Noice
leaden thunder
well
it may still get changed
because even if it's not a bug
it's dumb as hell
feral topaz
Yea
blazing oak
Does the veteran have a melee weapon that is just a single target destroyer
leaden thunder
axes
feral topaz
A unique one?
bitter escarp
can't expect shit to get changed just because it's dumb
feral topaz
Not really no.
bitter escarp
this is fatshark
blazing oak
Anything that isn’t Chainaxe because I use chaxe on zealot
blazing oak
Difference between them?
leaden thunder
well the rashad is the best for single target but good luck using it effectively (crab can show you the rashad vision)
blazing oak
For a decent time I thought Rashad was the axe with the least cleave but highest damage
leaden thunder
antax is the current best
bitter escarp
achlys is middle child
leaden thunder
since it just works
void mural
How do you properly use chain axe? I don't feel like I'm ever really doing anything with it, and the light attacks feel super jank with the camera lock
bitter escarp
antax is overachiever
leaden thunder
I ahve no idea
bitter escarp
rashad is failson
leaden thunder
what the achyls does
blazing oak
I played a game of helbore vet to try out the new aim assist. The new aim assist doesn’t feel too impactful
leaden thunder
rashad has some insane damage if you can make it hit heads
low parrot
Hi-Int shock gauntlet is mental... (we lost)
bitter escarp
if
blazing oak
How do you properly use chain axe? I don't feel like I'm ever really doing anyth...
Block Push attack. Run slaughter plus either thrust or headtaker
blazing oak
@dry sun Summon thee, @void mural requires initiation
void mural
Sooo... it's a gimmick weapon with a special attack?
blazing oak
I lit the beacon
leaden thunder
the lights are very good at single target on the chaxe
void mural
Like achlys all over again?
leaden thunder
the heavies and push attacks are your horde clear
but it will kill pretty much any elite very quickly if you need it to
void mural
What role do lights fill? They never seem to 1 shot fodder enemies, so I'd assume they're not any better for higher stuff?
blazing oak
Dornam. If you want detail explanation on Chainaxe, ask Badman#2907
feral topaz
leaden thunder
looks about like mine tbh, but mine has dumdum 2
and mine has way lower ammo
or well
not way lower
but low enough my mag is only 21
blazing oak
What role do lights fill? They never seem to 1 shot fodder enemies, so I'd assum...
Not base, but with blessings like slaughterer and headtaker they start one shotting. It becomes a momentum weapon.
bitter escarp
bringing a FAL into 40k
blazing oak
The Chainaxe kills things quickly one at a time instead of cleaving
void mural
Ah, so chain axe is another blessing reliant weapon?
bitter escarp
yes
blazing oak
What isn’t
void mural
Oof
feral topaz
best Chainaxe I saw had both Headtaker and Slaughterer
bitter escarp
yeah look some of theme are pisstakes
leaden thunder
it has like 7 blessings
bitter escarp
rev it up smh
leaden thunder
and 3 of them are very good
and one of those 7 is only ever t4
so it basically only has 6
void mural
What isn’t
Eh, illisi is fine with whatever
blazing oak
Rev it up is the kind of blessing where I really want it to have much more speed as a meme
bitter escarp
instead of nerfing bloodthirsty, I want to see them give it, idk, a 3 second duration
chainaxe with bloodthirsty
leaden thunder
all the chainweapon version never did the funny 5 seconds of crits
bitter escarp
yeah
blazing oak
The Chainaxe lights stagger what you are hitting too
bitter escarp
was very malded to find that out
leaden thunder
made me
very sad
my dreams of the crit viserator where dashed
and then dashed again when I found out it wasn't very good anyway
bitter escarp
eviscerator with old force sword bloodthirsty
I rolled a bloodthirsty/perfect strike eviscerator
bitter escarp
mf just skated off shit half the time before this patch lmao
blazing oak
Basically, the Chainaxe is a momentum weapon with combos for groups. To play Chainaxe is to channel the bloodshed as you quickly rip through each enemy
For hordes use flamer
leaden thunder
tbf, I can def see how 5 seconds of 100% crits would just break the illisi
that's like the one isse
but also like
bitter escarp
yeah it'd break the deimos as well tbh
bitter escarp
crushers become a nonissue
blazing oak
I’m not good at explaining weapons though
void mural
Anyone know if a meme illisi build works with blazing spirit, bloodthirsty, and wildfire? Or do enemies that die to the crit hit not proc blazing spirit?
bitter escarp
you can still basically do that on the illsis
illisi seems like a bit of a problem child tbh
leaden thunder
it is incredibly strong
bitter escarp
it's too good at a lot of things
bitter escarp
no meaningful weaknesses
leaden thunder
I feel like it's mainly sluaght thats pushing it over the edge
bitter escarp
deimos at least has some issues to make up for bonkers numbers
blazing oak
I don’t get warp flurry. Does the increased charge speed not make it so you’re doing higher charges which cause more peril?
stone pulsar
Anyone know if a meme illisi build works with blazing spirit, bloodthirsty, and ...
i think it works.
leaden thunder
it reduces peril gen actually
blazing oak
How
bitter escarp
slaught fucks everything tbh
leaden thunder
I guess less time charging means less peril generated
blazing oak
They better not nerf slaughterer
leaden thunder
it does need a nerf, but a lot of weapon that use it need a buff in compensation at the same time
bitter escarp
capping it at 10% is still fantastic tbh
void mural
Fun! I hope I can someday have rng bless me enough to do a meme build... gotta love how much RNG is in this games "crafting" system
blazing oak
It’s not crafting. It’s sticker collecting
orchid shadow
Flurry? It pretty sure it doesn't reduce Peril gen. It just decreases your cast time, you still generate the same amount of peril in that faster cast.
leaden thunder
like all the weapons that are crap without it just could take a like 25% cleave and damage boost at the same time they nerf it
stone pulsar
what about headtaker
leaden thunder
depending on how they nerf it (if they even do)
void mural
How
IIRC, right click peril gen is based on peril/second spent charging, so if you spend less time charging, you generate less peril per cast
bitter escarp
they don't have it in them to do something like that right now
leaden thunder
headtaker is only busted on the heavy sword
bitter escarp
barely keeping up on content release
blazing oak
Is peril gen you get after releasing a charge not based off of time spent charging and not the actual strength of the charge?
leaden thunder
it's is fine on everything else that can roll it
bitter escarp
tbf headtaker is also necessary on heavy sword
stone pulsar
no touch my heavy sword. its my treasure.
blazing oak
Like the burst of peril you get after releasing a charge
leaden thunder
heavy sword's headtaker is literally just slaughterer but better
bitter escarp
weird ass identity of lightly trimming the toenails of everyone you hit
blazing oak
No nerfing slaughterer without buffing weapons
void mural
It’s not crafting. It’s sticker collecting
Nah, I meant the RNG of crafting actually letting me get everything I need for the build on the same weapon. Unlocking blessings is sticker collecting for sure
bitter escarp
No nerfing slaughterer without buffing weapons
monkey's paw finger curls
blazing oak
I wonder if any of the FatShark people actually monitor things other than general chat
stone pulsar
yeah bloodthirsty might be hard to get. its t4.
orchid shadow
IIRC, right click peril gen is based on peril/second spent charging, so if you s...
Ah, you're correct.
Reduces your charge cost by the % value as well, since the channeling costs peril per second.
bitter escarp
something that seems to remain the case in DT
is how few FS devs play high difficulties
blazing oak
Nah, I meant the RNG of crafting actually letting me get everything I need for t...
But actually thematically it’s not crafting. It’s either making it more sacred or rummaging through crates of weapons
leaden thunder
I think the demios and illsis could be fine without compensation buffs, but like the obscorus, thunderhammer, chain axe, both the krouk ogryn knives, would all need a buff
if they nerfed sluaght
blazing oak
Reduces your charge cost by the % value as well, since the channeling costs peri...
That includes the burst of peril after releasing a charge?
void mural
But actually thematically it’s not crafting. It’s either making it more sacred o...
Lore-wise, yeah, but I meant that the joke is that I can't even call their "crafting system" crafting, because all it is really is rolling a stupid slot machine
leaden thunder
I fully expect they either won't nerf sluaght for a while or it'll get hit at the end of this month
bitter escarp
or it'll end up like VT2 where the clear best blessings just got left as is
void mural
That includes the burst of peril after releasing a charge?
I don't think that part changes, just the peril/second cost
leaden thunder
that is kinda ok, not ideal
but also like
I don't think they could ever make it not bis
without just gutting it
void mural
Agreed
leaden thunder
or massively buffing something else
void mural
Just with how many things the power increase stat affects
leaden thunder
the only balanced power vs damage split is fire frenzy and death spitter
(fire frenzy is only damage)
they are close enough with the %s that it is a decently meaningful choice between them
as well as fire frenzy only effects things at a closer range
leaden thunder
what level are you
inland juniper
19
blazing oak
Weapon?
leaden thunder
not really
inland juniper
yeah fuck this
ornate hamlet
I mean
Leveling gives you a bunch of feats to pick from that will always improve your gameplay somehow
lunar hollow
i think once you get used to a level 30 class its kinda hard to go back to leveling
blazing oak
Yeah and in leveling in an mmo you are kinda useless for the big stuff too
inland juniper
og and zealot feel fine to level
leaden thunder
becuase they are walls of meat
inland juniper
point is, fuck thsi class
blazing oak
What specifically are you struggling with pogryn
inland juniper
my damage feels poor, my cc feels okay but I feel like a subpar veteran
spice veldt
Psyker does lack any semblance of ranged burst DPS so far
inland juniper
diemos blaze, voidstrike
blazing oak
Is voidstrike animation cancel spam not that?
limber silo
Yeah, psyker is much more mid range
spice veldt
oooooooh that explains it
limber silo
It has long range options, but mid range is where we thrive
spice veldt
Voidstrike is a ranged/hordeclear hybrid weapon
and it ends up not being the best for either purpose
limber silo
I dislike Voidstrike because any meaty enemy will just eat the ball and stop the pierce
blazing oak
Psyker is just a weird class that has no super defined role
spice veldt
yup; it's only got 6 cleave when fully charged
blazing oak
It depends on your weapons
lunar hollow
i tried voidstrike on high int damn once and 90% my hits were eaten by bulwarks
i cant look at that staff ever again
limber silo
yup; it's only got 6 cleave when fully charged
Really? I feel like I can hit many more enemies than that
W/ headshots
Does that matter?
spice veldt
I don't think so? not sure
Voidstrike has this occasional behavior where it ignores the cleave limit on its epicentre and annihilates everything that touches it
limber silo
If void only has 6 pierce, then I'm never picking it up again
spice veldt
the outer radius has no cleave limit, and that might be what you're seeing
magic hull
bruh
blazing oak
Welcome to the club
limber silo
From what I understood before, if the ball kills the enemy, it doesn't count against pierce. I felt like the pierce really only excels when headshotting
magic hull
major critical skill issue
truly skill issue
feral verge
yeah
magic hull
just get better
limber silo
I'm probably making that up tho
feral verge
you should've been able to save that game
magic hull
imagine not reacting split second smh, i suck at this bro
blazing oak
Even if you have a daemonhost and a beast of Nurgle on you, you should be easily able to beat it
feral verge
imagine not reacting split second smh, i suck at this bro
yerah.. you might get better... someday
feral verge
but not today
blazing oak
Darktide too easy man damnation = recruit on vt2 Blegh
void mural
@inland juniper psyker feels pretty shit on difficulty 3+ until you get some higher rating weapons. IMO, stick to difficulty 2 until you level up a bunch, and get some higher rating weapons. I liked voidstrike when I started psyker, and illisi FS unlocks at level 2 I think? It's pretty OP at base, so I'd recommend those 2 while you level up
BB carries pretty hard for sniping on lower difficulties because it kills everything below an ogryn in one cast, and there's not as many specials on low difficulties
spice veldt
being lvl 19 means that they don't have access to qualities of life like Kinetic Deflection or Flayer, which partly explains it
void mural
Yeah, KD really is amazing
Goes from "can't block shit", to blocking entire hordes while rezzing alllies
lunar hollow
i've been saved from fucking impossible situations by KD
void mural
For real
lunar hollow
like i got backed into a corner vs 2 bulwarks and a horde with it
and managed to block and shove until i could get out
granted i had to use special to drop from max peril but still
void mural
Best tank for DH too
lunar hollow
yep
it isnt always useful (moreso good for assassination missions and whatnot) but when it is
holy shit can it save runs
void mural
Yeah, can save you from most situations when used properly
spice veldt
Really? I feel like I can hit many more enemies than that
witness da powah of 6 cleave https://streamable.com/zzdf5p
limber silo
Oh ):
spice veldt
yup
limber silo
Voidstrike, more like Avoidstrike amiright?
spice veldt
killing 6 poxwalkers or 8 groaners in a single shot ain't bad, but I usually reckon that my melee is good enough (or even better if I'm using the Illisi)
limber silo
This is competing with purge with Infinite cleave?
spice veldt
yup
being able to cleave through crushers
or trauma, which also has infinite cleave
limber silo
And everything else except bulwarks
Sometimes void struggles w/ ragers center mass, smh
void mural
I like voidstrike for the range flexibility it brings over purge. Though lately I've been really liking my trauma staff
bitter escarp
void centre mass is a panic space clearing shot IME
also, fucking height slider
had a friend complaining about void being shit
turns out old mate had set his psyker to minimum height
void mural
Eh? What's that cause?
limber silo
Managed to pick perfect height for my psyker
bitter escarp
slight differences in angling
spice veldt
making it harder to hit headshots in a line
void mural
Ah
feral verge
I am minimum height and find void to be just fine
edgy kite
Worth upgrading?
bitter escarp
not ruling out skill issue mind you
spice veldt
though headshots aren't that big of a damage boost for voidstrike anyways
bitter escarp
it's more for transfer peril
limber silo
That's pretty nice
feral verge
Worth upgrading?
You want burn to be 76% or higher, ideally
void mural
Missing 76% burn for last stack I think, but looks decent otherwise
edgy kite
Ah ok, I'll save my resources for something better then
void mural
Also, probably try for damage being the dump stat if possible
void mural
Dmg on purg is pretty shit compared to the dot though?
spice veldt
sure, but it's not negligible
i don't particularly care about sustain with battle meditation and the fast quell speeds nowadays
void mural
Doesn't it only do like 15 dmg at max stat?
spice veldt
though there's fire rate to be factored in
void mural
True I suppose. Whats the fire rate for purg?
spice veldt
just testing a 43 damage 80 everything else purg and an 80 dmg 72 burn purg, the 43 dmg dealt 191 dps to a mauler and the 80 dmg dealt 230 dps
a bit of penny change, but I always like a bit more DPS
magic hull
purg > best dildo stick
spice veldt
i have no idea how the fire rate works
void mural
shrug with how purge works, dots seem stronger than the on hit damage, but neither way seems bad, depending on how you like to play
spice veldt
I think it's just a giant hitbox and each enemy has their own timer or something
magic hull
i have no idea how the fire rate works
let me demonstrate: brrrrrr
here's how i describe purge
490 and below = shit
490 and above = semi shit
orchid shadow
For Gunker, the feats are pretty much anything you want, with the exception of the Mandatory Warp Unleashed? I have 3, 1, 1, 1, 1, 3 at the moment
magic hull
500+ = best
void mural
Inner tranquility + warp battery isn't bad either if you like using kinetic barrage
void mural
Chain man!
dry sun
Everyone else is a pale imitation
void mural
So, how do you not suck with chain axe?
dry sun
First things first have either headtaker, slaughterer, or thrust as your 2 blessings. Otherwise you might not be bad but your chainaxe will be
Mobility can be your dumpstat but you want shmovement
void mural
First things first have either headtaker, slaughterer, or thrust as your 2 bless...
Yeah, that's about what I've been feeling with chain axe. Been unlucky with blessings
void mural
Mobility can be your dumpstat but you want shmovement
Pretty much what I assumed
dry sun
Light attack spam if fast and good. Wont clear hordes but does good single target damage. I swear ive hit 2 pox walkers with 1 horizontal light before. Push attack and heavy attack hit 3 enemies in front of your and is your horde clear. Revved attack heavy is your big guy killer. Rev light can kill scab and dreg gunners
Light also does minor suppression on enemies touchint the one you are hitting
I like to star most engagements with a slide heavy or using my flamer for a few seconds (flamer fire and deaths with proc headtaker and slaughterer) and proceed to push attack > heavy > light light and repeat until all my power buffs are up and then I can just do whatever and things will die
void mural
Ah, so light attacks for single target, revved lights for gunners, push and heavy for horde. All this is predicated on propping the weapon up on its blessing power increases? Otherwise you're going to have a bad time?
dry sun
Yeah pretty much
void mural
So... essentially, go find some blessing or don't use it, lol
dry sun
I can make it work because I have 100 hours of chainaxe but I wouldnt reccomend one without those power blessings or if you are gonna try using it on any class other than zelly
T3 perks will service tho if you have those
void mural
So, my actual assessment of the weapon was on point. It's pretty shit because bad blessings
dry sun
Melks been really on point for giving me chainaxes
Yeah its not good unless you put love into the weapin
void mural
I rarely see any chainaxes
dry sun
People see me on high damn and go "wow how u gonna make that work"
The nice thing is i get a lot of compliments from randos when they see chainaxe put in work
void mural
Is chainsword the same? I've always felt like it's a wet noodle when trying it out. I don't have any good blessing for it either
broken pollen
relatively new to psyker meta, how do i stay alive
dry sun
My axe
broken pollen
i've been staying in the backline but that makes me feel like a burden on the team
dry sun
Is chainsword the same? I've always felt like it's a wet noodle when trying it o...
Chain weapons are all kinda mid right now. Id say chainsword might be the best contender rn when it comes to having no blessings
void mural
relatively new to psyker meta, how do i stay alive
Illisi is OP, abuse it, or deimos if you like it better. Play difficulty 2 until you're decently high leveled and get some good rating weapons. Psyker sucks at low level/weapon rating
dry sun
Honestly i wouldnt even use the chainaxe if i wasnt such a massive kharn simp
Id be a hammer main
broken pollen
Illisi is OP, abuse it, or deimos if you like it better. Play difficulty 2 until...
gotcha, i cleared my first hi int damnation and it was awful, i'm a zealot main
got illisi and purgatus
void mural
I personally liked voidstrike more at low levels, but you do you if purg works for you
broken pollen
trying to get to 30 as fast as possible, at 22 rn
void mural
Well, you're 20, so you can at least take KD to abuse blocking
broken pollen
is KB one of the feats?
void mural
Kinetic shield is decent as well, but imo, KD can clutch bad situations better
edgy kite
What would the dump stat on the duelling sword be?
void mural
BTW, kinetic shield also affects melee because tooltips lie
edgy kite
Seems ok for a more defensive playstyle?
fierce sinew
for a defensive ds mkv is better, but even then still not offering much worth taking over deimos
feral verge
Seems ok for a more defensive playstyle?
deimos blows all dueling swords out of the water, unfortunately
edgy kite
Ah ok, relatively new to psyker as i mostly played Zealot, I'll avoid it then
Using an illisi, i'll keep an eye out for a good deimos
feral verge
if you really ike it, use it
but if oyu want the most mileage, get deimos force sword
shrewd nest
Dueling swords kinda just dead after the 2 new kids on the block, can we just give em to the zealots now that we aren't playing with em anymore?
edgy kite
Wasn't enjoying the duelling swords much while leveling, prefer'd the force ones with deflector
feral verge
Dueling swords kinda just dead after the 2 new kids on the block, can we just gi...
i would love this
alls i want is for zealot to have duelies or rapier
white cedar
does Slaughterer effect Ascending Blaze? 🤔
fierce sinew
yes
shrewd nest
Probably does
white cedar
cool, I build Purgatus + Run N Gun to speed run T3 with my friend and it is kinda fun
feral verge
if you want max damage ascendant blaze, use a force sword with usntable pwoer + slaughterer
be at full peril, cast ascendant blaze (With warp battery ofc)
swap to sword, get to high peril
horde will be literally deleted in seconds
fierce sinew
things that die to your soulblaze while your sword is in hand will also proc slaughterer
shrewd nest
Or gun psyker with pinning and blaze away too
fierce sinew
so you go to max slaughterer stacks immediately and everything gets cooked
shrewd nest
Though gun psyker's it's own beast
white cedar
I prefer Purgatus+Run N Gun more than Auto pistol. I have to try T5 run with my friend. XD
shrewd nest
I kinda jsut dropped my purgatos with the dot nerfs
white cedar
yah, that suck
feral verge
run and gun lol
shrewd nest
I like the other staves more anyhow, so kicking me on my dots just makes me not want to paly it
feral verge
purga + AB still slaps with the flak nerf
shrewd nest
Trauma's the last one I'm trying, it's a fun one, but my trauma staves all kinda suck
white cedar
it need 360+ to be good staff
drowsy slate
purga + AB still slaps with the flak nerf
What is AB?
shrewd nest
Ascendant blaze
drowsy slate
Sure… my bad 😅
shrewd nest
No worries, abbreviations are confusing
drowsy slate
I don’t know what to think about purgatus
shrewd nest
Purg is an easy one to pick up, lowest skill floor of any of the staves, but I like the ceiling of the others more
spice veldt
infinite cleave is always nice
drowsy slate
So if I get power buff through unstable power will my soulblaze ticks increase in damage?
spice veldt
yes, but only while you're holding your force sword
graceful aurora
I need to melt this for it's blessing brothers. I am ignorant, I only returned from a 3 month break last week. I used my melee weapon to make me run faster and that was all. Which is the better blessing ot earn?
shrewd nest
Power fubbs work on it in general, but only while holding said stat stick
drowsy slate
Purg is an easy one to pick up, lowest skill floor of any of the staves, but I l...
I like voidstrike the most. Feels like it helps handle most of the things
autumn smelt
purga + AB still slaps with the flak nerf
ive never felt ascendant blaze actually make a noticeable difference tho
i always stick to kinetic barrage with the elite cooldown feat
spice veldt
I need to melt this for it's blessing brothers. I am ignorant, I only returned f...
neither blessing is remarkable, but I suppose executor if you want a single-target deimos
tropic scarab
What perks would be best to have on a lightning staff?
feral verge
ive never felt ascendant blaze actually make a noticeable difference tho
AB deletes hordes faster than any psyker ability/weapon
autumn smelt
and so i can swap between horde clear and quick elite melting on a whim
shrewd nest
Voidstrike is for sure a great one, big thing to put the fire stick down for, especially since BB being better now too, gives me less want for ascendant blaze purg stuff
feral verge
and it lights up rooms full of shooters
AB is the msot ultimate feeling ultimate in the game
graceful aurora
neither blessing is remarkable, but I suppose executor if you want a single-targ...
thank you, it's the only orange I have. But it's base is 308. I was thinking of just keeping it until I raise up a better one. I wish you could melt the useless ones for a pitance of dia and plast
autumn smelt
and it lights up rooms full of shooters
that sounds nice, but i tend to us brain burst A LOT, so kinetic barrage is just too good for me to pass up
drowsy slate
Voidstrike is for sure a great one, big thing to put the fire stick down for, es...
So what is BB 😂? Sorry I Main ogryn and try to get deeper into my psyker until next patch
shrewd nest
I need to melt this for it's blessing brothers. I am ignorant, I only returned f...
Don't listen to Acrotash, uncanny is actually pretty great for deimos
shrewd nest
So what is BB 😂? Sorry I Main ogryn and try to get deeper into my psyker until ...
brain burst
white cedar
121232 for the meme 😂
autumn smelt
So what is BB 😂? Sorry I Main ogryn and try to get deeper into my psyker until ...
brain burst, your """grenade"""
feral verge
that sounds nice, but i tend to us brain burst A LOT, so kinetic barrage is just...
BB is nice but it can be trap
BBing too much can severely lower your potential damage output
graceful aurora
brain burst, your """grenade"""
Think of it like the box but you throw it with your mind.
feral verge
and your stagger/cc potential
spice veldt
Don't listen to Acrotash, uncanny is actually pretty great for deimos
only really affecting carapace damage on heavies
tropic scarab
Would flak be the main perk on a lighting staff?
drowsy slate
I think BB could charge a bit faster tbh 😅 most of the time it feels lackluster but just me speaking as a noob
spice veldt
force swords have pretty good armour mods
autumn smelt
BBing too much can severely lower your potential damage output
i only really use it for elites, bosses, and when the veteran isnt too interested in killing gunners on the far end of the room
graceful aurora
What about Unstabke Power?
autumn smelt
but ill be hotswapping between purg and that quite a lot throughout missions
shrewd nest
Uncanny stacks on your special, so you can be a real menace to crushers with it being able to do a heavy then 2nd heavy pretty much 2 shotting em, also good for killing maulers faster with simple lights
shrewd nest
only really affecting carapace damage on heavies
Also gets maulters and any simple flak armored dudes killed a bit faster
feral verge
it shines on high peril builds
spice veldt
the 1st stab and heavies deal 100% to flak enemies
autumn smelt
I think BB could charge a bit faster tbh 😅 most of the time it feels lackluster...
what level are you? at lvl 30 you have a feat that can increase that charge time for a short while after your ult
spice veldt
i hope you're not light-spamming flak enemies
autumn smelt
I think BB could charge a bit faster tbh 😅 most of the time it feels lackluster...
plus you can precharge it
drowsy slate
what level are you? at lvl 30 you have a feat that can increase that charge time...
Oh I am 30 and I Play psyker on damnation 😅
So not totally noob
graceful aurora
it shines on high peril builds
OK, maybe I should try consecrating this 365 up then?
spice veldt
it's true that your normals will do more damage to the carapace head of maulers, but the deimos special also deals 200% damage to the flak body of maulers
shrewd nest
Sometimes they're thrown in the middle of hoards, it'd help out I'm sure
feral verge
OK, maybe I should try consecrating this 365 up then?
you want low warp resistance
drowsy slate
Just don’t feel as comfortable as with ogryn 😅
feral verge
so you can easily maintain low peril
graceful aurora
you want low warp resistance
melting!
feral verge
50% or lower is my ideal
graceful aurora
so you can easily maintain low peril
I thought I wanted high peril to murder everying
autumn smelt
idk i feel like its perfectly fine, trading the slow default buildup for ensured damage that you dont have to aim or have LoS for
one shots most elites on damnation
feral verge
I thought I wanted high peril to murder everying
i meant maintain high peril, with low warp resistance, sorry
shrewd nest
It's absolutely a great blessing to try out at the least, I don't have a great one rolled, so I'm not sure what breakpoints it helps with besides fucking up crushers real hard
drowsy slate
it's true that your normals will do more damage to the carapace head of maulers,...
Daimos special stuns to long in my opinion
graceful aurora
i meant maintain high peril, with low warp resistance, sorry
oh of course, sorry. So yeah I guess I should melt it. I don't really plan to use it that much honestly. At least now cause I don't really know how. I usually take it out if I'm cornered or as a meme tbh to behead a solo enemy
autumn smelt
i honestly swapped off of deimos cuz i ended up getting myself hurt using it more often than not, so im using ol reliable bm antax
autumn smelt
dont have a good one atm
shrewd nest
Big F
autumn smelt
the best on i got was uh
shrewd nest
Love that hting
autumn smelt
slaughterer or exorcist just being personal preference?
trading damage for higher special uptime?
shrewd nest
That ain't bad, not amazing, but toss slaughterer, or deflector for the time being on it and it'll carry you fine
feral verge
trading damage for higher special uptime?
not primarily for special. for me, its for toughness
because i run quietitude
autumn smelt
ah true, wasnt thinking of that
shrewd nest
For illisi you for sure want slaughterer, it's very nice, other options moreso if ya don't have that
drowsy slate
I think illis don’t need anything besides slaughterer so I do deflector but the interaction with soulblaze and unstable power is interesting
feral verge
slaughterer is #1 blessing
but i like unstable power on illisi because with a high peril build it can shore up the single target damage "weakness" of the illisi
ideally, you run both unstable power and slaughterer
shrewd nest
I got a good slaughter/shred one and a good slaughterer/deflector one, def use the latter more, but both nice, wish I could get my bloodthirsty on one with slaughterer to try that out, but no luck there
graceful aurora
What's the deal with Obscurus? Looks like illsi
shrewd nest
Would clear up bigger dudes like crushers if there's other dudes to swing through too, and that special gonna be good for toughness regen too with absorpsion
feral verge
deimos and illisi outclass obscurus
so there is no reason to use it
unless for whatever reason you just really personally like the obscurus
shrewd nest
Never liked the obscurus for anything more than deflector stuff
And the special was okish, but new ones just way better for that shit
graceful aurora
I know what's getting cast into the fire rn
shrewd nest
Cast int into the fires of Mordor
I got me a deimos with like gutted ass 22 warp resist, honestly prefer that over good warp resist on that
Get that warp unleashed going
void mural
Yeah, I want to get myself a low warp resist illisi for warp unleashed shenanigans with my shredder pistol build
feral verge
Yeah, I want to get myself a low warp resist illisi for warp unleashed shenaniga...
if oyu want a low warp resist one for warp unleashed, take unstable power too
void mural
Of course
shrewd nest
Deimos is fun, I prefer illisi, but different swords, different tools, and more variety
void mural
Hmm... does unstable power proc when wielding other weapons?
feral verge
only on DOTs
spice veldt
no
feral verge
like from purga, or ascendant blaze
void mural
Ah, for existing damage effects
feral verge
if you have sword out
spice veldt
the weapon must be equipped
cross-weapon blessing interactions were patched out a while ago
shrewd nest
I just hope that deimos rolls good upgrading it, I want me my magic thunder hammer for fucking off those big boys
void mural
So, eh, probably slaughterer + deflector
feral verge
rip
void mural
Most times I'm spamming special for autopistol. I'd rather have the peril available for special use when using melee
feral verge
peril quells so fast
then you have battle meditation
which procs all the time when you're swinging into hordes
if you are running a high peril build with warp unleashed, it's a no brainer to run unstable power, unless oyu really, really, really fuck with deflector
graceful aurora
I feel targetted
void mural
shrug maybe your rng is better. I don't see meditation proc very often when swinging into a horde
graceful aurora
at least I have a purge staff now XD
olive ember
Surge staff is meta what are you smoking
everyone knows the worst psykers always bring a fucking voidstrike
feral verge
the trick with surge staff is not to use it
void mural
Illisi still OP even without slaughterer
feral verge
you should only use surge staff on elite/special groups, and sometimes shooters behind cover
i see way too many psykers using surge staff al lthe time, o neverything
and it's such a wate
feral verge
surge staff psykers really should be using melee (ideally illisi) 80% of the time
autumn smelt
i like the male seer voice
feral verge
the noobiest psykers i have encountered in game use the male seer voice
shrewd nest
Especially when we have the illisi now too, which makes surge so very fun to me, that thing fucks off all hordes, anything bigger you surge up
feral verge
the best psykers i have encountered tended to use the male savant voice (african)
autumn smelt
the noobiest psykers i have encountered in game use the male seer voice
yeah cuz funny schizo voice
autumn smelt
the best psykers i have encountered tended to use the male savant voice (african...
and then theres the loner once in a blue moon cuz someone is crazy enough to listen to someone who
- has an annoying voice crack-prone voice
- is an insufferable narcissist
and they either play bad with meta stuff or good with terrible stuff
austere estuary
this was a very fun mission
feral verge
i play female loner
austere estuary
trauma/illisi with peril resistance and hi intensity
autumn smelt
i only ever hear male loners
austere estuary
so many hordes to rip through
autumn smelt
never female
austere estuary
and team grabbing all the plasteel 
shrewd nest
Think I'm female savant? It's the foreign accent one
faint vault
Yup, French.
feral verge
female loner has foregin accent too
faint vault
I recommend laspistol with ghost, and the fullauto mod.
shrewd nest
Other builds are fun, psyker has the best build variety out of at least zealot and vet if you ask me
Can't state ogryn cause not 30 yet, but I'd bet the same opinion will be had
autumn smelt
Can't state ogryn cause not 30 yet, but I'd bet the same opinion will be had
pretty much
shrewd nest
All the staves are viable and different,, gun psyker exists and is fine (least before last patch, haven't checked in on it since) and you got both illisi and deimos over the standard antax/duelnig stuff
autumn smelt
ogryn meta is gorgo stubba with either a power maul or mk 3 cleaver
ruby plover
gg till i die
autumn smelt
am i crazy for just not giving 2 shits about stamina curios
shrewd nest
While psyker meta is literally any staff you're good with or the gun, and either of the 2 force swords
leaden thunder
am i crazy for just not giving 2 shits about stamina curios
no
ruby plover
life is just nicer when u dont have 3 stam man
shrewd nest
They have a use on psyker, not much anything else
autumn smelt
cuz its like i feel like theyd have use on zealot when i think ab it
white cedar
If the game don't use stamina for running, it might be interesting
spice veldt
if you use kinetic deflection, there's not much a need for stam curios
shrewd nest
If the game don't use stamina for running, it might be interesting
Stated only by the run and gun fanboy
autumn smelt
shrewd nest
You take more damage when running, you bet your ass I don't run around when there's heretics to slay
autumn smelt
ive never swapped off that lvl 20 one
spice veldt
you take more toughness damage while running, but that's not particularly impactful
leaden thunder
or can also take 0 damage from ranged while running if you do it right
spice veldt
better to double time to enemies faster and whack them with melee
white cedar
Stated only by the run and gun fanboy
this is my first day with run n gun but I can't denie the fact lol
spice veldt
the proper argument is that getting shot at while running will stagger you
fresh steeple
if you use kinetic deflection, there's not much a need for stam curios
I still think one is good. Basically doubles your block efficiency and makes running better, too
shrewd nest
Point is when I need stamina to block bullets n such, my stamina is full, not all being gone from running about
spice veldt
dodge slide
spice veldt
white cedar
agree
autumn smelt
https://streamable.com/mrgmkh
literally gaming
leaden thunder
"when I shimmy my way over there, I am gonna kick your ass"
white cedar
https://streamable.com/mrgmkh
sick move
autumn smelt
idk, whenever i try to do something similar, i get my ass turned inside out
shrewd nest
And in said clip, little stamina is used on the sprinting
spice veldt
oh I didn't realize your argument was about sprinting
eh
the stamina is for pushes and giving a buffer against blocking
fresh steeple
someone please congratulate me on my new Illisi, tha-anks
shrewd nest
I still am not sure what button I want dodge on, feels ok on shift, but I like it more on space, though I do nooot like jump and dodge on the same
So then jumping gets fuckier
spice veldt
since I don't input my pushes perfectly, so there's a small timeframe where I can get hit while pushing
when I didn't have my +3 stam curio, I got guardbroken much more often
feral verge
https://streamable.com/mrgmkh
shit psyker
let his peril go down
shit psyker shit psyker
autumn smelt
let his peril go down
POINT AND LAUGH
drowsy slate
https://streamable.com/mrgmkh
What is this heresy?! Do I need to call for the inquisition 😂?
shrewd nest
My argument was against "stamina curio being less big because it is used on sprint too"
autumn smelt
I still am not sure what button I want dodge on, feels ok on shift, but I like i...
ive literally had to rewire my brain from other games to have my hand crab-claw shift around on my keyboard to be able to hid those slides with shift lmao
void mural
I still am not sure what button I want dodge on, feels ok on shift, but I like i...
Dodge on space, jump on left alt
spice veldt
so we're on the same side
feral verge
Dodge on space, jump on left alt
this is what i run
shrewd nest
Dodge on space, jump on left alt
Good idea, I'll try out that layout
spice veldt
though I still disagree with significant stamina being used with deflector
void mural
I was running space for both till I got too annoyed at accidently jumping when I wanted to dodge
leaden thunder
it will 100% get you killed
white cedar
I always forget that sword have infinite dodge and usually dodge with my Trauma either clear the horde or get hit by fat dodge 😂
void mural
Putting it on alt isn't too far of a move for jumping, and jump is not used nearly as much
drowsy slate
How is the dodgeslide performed?
void mural
it will 100% get you killed
For real. The reason I changed it
spice veldt
dodge -> hold your crouch for a bit
shrewd nest
I tried it on ctrl, but I got soundboard stuff on that, so it just blasts those
spice veldt
nope; sliding can be initiated from either a sprint or dodge
autumn smelt
only in this game will my finger position swap to this for a split second lmao
drowsy slate
😱
void mural
Eww... control
spice veldt
there's a minor mechanical difference in that you need to hold your crouch for a bit; whereas with sprint-sliding, you only need to tap crouch for an instant during your sprint to initiate a slide
void mural
I put sprint on my mouse thumb button and crouch on shift
shrewd nest
Ido the reverse of that
spice veldt
just be warned that dodge-sliding counts twice towards your dodge limit
autumn smelt
i have ping on my upper thumb button and alt weapon use on the lower thumb button
shrewd nest
just be warned that dodge-sliding counts twice towards your dodge limit
Force sword moment 
spice veldt
chad infinite dodges
autumn smelt
so those buttons out of the question for my mobility
spice veldt
I have sprint/dodge on Shift and crouch on C
autumn smelt
just be big brain and map both dodge and crouch to space
i moved it OFF of space for a reason tho lmao
kind jay
o
shut ether
Ctrl is sprint for me and Shift is only dodge
kind jay
yeah i have my jump on ctrl atm (don't tell anyone) cause i wanted to see if i could double bind and it worked so i never changed it back
it's funny to just electric slide all over the place
drowsy slate
just be warned that dodge-sliding counts twice towards your dodge limit
Well so it doesn’t matter with FS?
blazing oak
I get to play on controller and have my jump button the same as my dodge button >:)
white cedar
Well so it doesn’t matter with FS?
FS don't have dodge limit
spice veldt
yup
blazing oak
It doesn’t, but it stops me from spamming it
white cedar
but still took stamina on slide
spice veldt
but it is something to keep in mind with your staff/brainburst
kind jay
I get to play on controller and have my jump button the same as my dodge button ...
i was using this for a time but i found that mistiming a dodge makes you jump and that was getting me in trouble in hordes
blazing oak
I’m surprised they didn’t mention in the patch notes how they lowered max spin speed for ranged weapons on controller sensitivity
They removed my ability to spin at Mach 1 in elevators
spice veldt
maybe they reckoned it was too stronk with purg
feral verge
Controller lol
river sand
yay finally got slaughterer 4
feral verge
Beautiful
river sand
if that thing didnt came with +1 stam and weak spot it would be so good
copper torrent
jealous
river sand
on every other weapon yes but weak spot is not super bad on deimos cause the weak spot modifier is so high
fresh steeple
MANKAR, COMPLIMENT MINE TOO
river sand
running 2x health 1x 3 stam curios
fresh steeple
REEEEEEE
feral verge
I have a similar illisi that has Stam locked and it feels nice
feral verge
running 2x health 1x 3 stam curios
So do i
river sand
but deimos on second heavy the extra dmg from weak spot hit is +435
fresh steeple
I need the validation
river sand
8% from that isnt too bad
fresh steeple
Mankar hates me confirmed
feral verge
I haven't seen your sword
fresh steeple
it was buried by dodge slide talks 😦
rolled it up from a green in the shop a few minutes ago
feral verge
It's pretty good
fresh steeple
It's pretty good
that's all I need in my life
feral verge
Would be amazing if it had unstable power 4 over deflector
fresh steeple
I can go suicide in a high-intensity now
well, it was either roll off Deflector, or roll off Exorcist, so
perhaps I'll find one some day with both Slaughterer and Unstable. Time will tell
ornate hamlet
le pogue 
blazing oak
maybe they reckoned it was too stronk with purg
They didn’t because it slows your turning down
At least it did for the flamer
blazing oak
Controller lol
void mural
Controller in a FPS, lol
blazing oak
Deal with it :)
void mural
I don't have to
blazing oak
Not what I meant but okay
I’m doing fine with it anyways
I’m going to check if the spin speed cap was somehow connected to the aim assist setting because they did change that
void mural
Yeah, I just find that after playing a FPS on m+kb, trying any FPS on a controller just feels like alternately trying to swim through molasses, or trying to thread a needle, no inbetweens
blazing oak
Fair, it is about finding the sensitivity you are comfortable with and getting good with it again
Learning curves and skill decay and all that
blazing oak
But watching the mortal keyboard users try to replicate the consistently fast and constant spinning I could do was nice, and now it’s gone
blazing oak
idk if I can respect his opinion anymore
You respected me?
blazing oak
Besides, I’m not trying to make arguments about the parts of the game where pinpoint accuracy is needed anyways
void mural
Fair, it is about finding the sensitivity you are comfortable with and getting g...
My problem is that my comfortable look speed was too slow to properly aim, and I couldn't handle the speed of fast aiming. No win situation, haha
void mural
But watching the mortal keyboard users try to replicate the consistently fast an...
Move your mouse in a circle. Tons of SPEEEEN
blazing oak
But that takes much more effort than moving a joystick to the right and holding it there
void mural
shrug it's all elevator shenanigans anyway
blazing oak
Alternatively, learn to mod and create a mod that has a button that sets my sensitivity to 10.0 and then back
If turning off the new aim assist doesn’t work
blazing oak
Also apparently spinning as fast as I did also made the character’s waist become twisted as heck
According to reports from my teammates
void mural
Sounds about right
Dancing DRG dwarves breaking their spine because they drank a beer all over again
autumn smelt
i am
so so upset
was finally getting close to clearing my first hi-shock damnation
and the internet started being fucky
and since i play via geforce now, that means input lag and >144p screen
leaden thunder