yeah I usually roll with sniper for normal play but if there's hi int grims then I roll grims on it for a few games.
#psyker-class
hollow current
hollow current
If I could put on all my curios it'd be sprint efficiency, Mutant res and Sniper res tho.
fresh steeple
If I could put on all my curios it'd be sprint efficiency, Mutant res and Sniper...
Sniper I understand. Sprint efficiency not so much 😛
hollow current
It's a convenience thing lol
feral verge
i have sprint eff on
2x
its nice
along with stam regen
and a stam curio
i can pretty much run everywhere
and have enough stam to push, or block if needed
the illisi im currently using has +1 stam locked
fresh steeple
this sounds like a "people without KD" strategy
spice veldt
Sprint eff is nice for running ahead of my team to steal kills
i have zero trust in my teammates to not aggro enemies ridiculously early and make them split up
feral verge
if they let us unlock blessings/perks at somepoint...
this thing would be perfect
im keeping maniac on there
but i wonder if flak would put me over a breakpoint
for bucket heads
for lights
orchid shadow
How much Diamantine would you think would be fair to unlock a blessing or perk?
feral verge
47k
wintry plover
I'm in the same boat. Diamantine to unlock when?
wintry plover
How much Diamantine would you think would be fair to unlock a blessing or perk?
9001
idle bay
https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-its-over9000-gif-14419267
Less know fact - in original japaneese version he says it's over 8000. But it turned into the meme from english version and remembered like that 🙂
orchid shadow
If I'm trying to get my feet wet in Damnation games, what maps should I go for? I've already done a Magistri Assassination (which I have no recollection doing, but hey, it has the skulls on the mission select screen). I'm thinking Enclaveum Baross or Consignment yard would be the next in difficulty?
feral verge
If I'm trying to get my feet wet in Damnation games, what maps should I go for? ...
relay station and silo whatever it's called are the hardest maps imo
so i reccomend staying away from those
especially relay station because it's bugged
it doesnt give the mats that it should
naive junco
nothing beats hab dreyko intel or whatever with pugs
feral verge
i had a vet lowkey steal defeat from victory
naive junco
ppl just killing trash instead of doing the scans
feral verge
the vet had a medpack that they didnt drop
at the very end of relayt station
when you run thru that tunnel to the escape elevator
they did eventually drop it, or someone did when i told them
but it was too late
naive junco
if he dont need it, the team dont get it. - vets
feral verge
he said "BRUH I WHENT DOWN" after i said this
waht he doesnt know is
drop the medpack before you go down
no excuse imo, unless he just completely forgot he had it
it was at the end of the map, in a hallway full of enemies
might as well plop it down
fallow dawn
i think this build is really fun can 1 shot brainburst ragers on 5 charges and high peril
orchid shadow
relay station and silo whatever it's called are the hardest maps imo
Ah yeah. I think Hab Dreyko Investigation and the Silo are my worst maps.
fresh steeple
Hab Dreyko is obscene in all regards
wintry plover
I'm torn on feats with trauma,. On one hand the extra damage from warp unleashed is nice, but I really like the extra staff uses I get with rank 4 flurry + tranquility.
fresh steeple
I really like Relay Station, actually. But I've stopped running it due to the mat bug
fresh steeple
I'm torn on feats with trauma,. On one hand the extra damage from warp unleashed...
IT>WU
clear heath
i hate hab dreyko just because it kills my fps
wintry plover
i hate hab dreyko just because it kills my fps
I hate it because sometimes in the first room it'll spawn a DH on top of you.
spice veldt
if you want to build around trauma, inner tranq. If you want to build around your melee, WU
clear heath
There have been 3 occassions where i've seen 2 monstrosities spawn at the same time
All 3 of those times were at hab dreyko
This is one of my least played maps
truly a cursed map
fresh steeple
Hab Dreyko has the absolute worst mid-game gauntlet, the absolute worst end-game gauntlet, the absolute worst escape route, several "bomb ledges," and it's extremely dark to boot
orchid shadow
I hate it because sometimes in the first room it'll spawn a DH on top of you.
I think they fixed that. I remember if you even touched the stairway going up, the DH spawns spawns behind you.
clear heath
i also just find auspex scans annoying
spice veldt
can just solo the investigations
clear heath
just wanna kill things
spice veldt
maybe if they bumped up the spawns
fresh steeple
it's fine with a premade, but "scan five objects" maps are the bane of pug groups that try to save 5 seconds by splitting up like they're in a Scooby Doo episode
spice veldt
I never really get that many spawns on Hab dreyko
feral verge
just wanna kill things
me
spice veldt
and specialists are easy enough because of how cqc the map is
cold geode
brunt is trying to tempt me back to antax
clear heath
homestly i would hate hab dreyko less if it didn't remove 1/3 of my fps
actually just annoying to play
feral verge
homestly i would hate hab dreyko less if it didn't remove 1/3 of my fps
stupid???
just buy more fps from the store???
desert quartz
so what's the consensus on the blazing spirit blessing
feral verge
such a non issue
feral verge
so what's the consensus on the blazing spirit blessing
thoroughly meh
clear heath
sorry can't afford more fps
feral verge
especially on voidstrike
desert quartz
considering changing it, seems rather useless
feral verge
considering changing it, seems rather useless
it pretty much is
but fire is funny, so
fresh steeple
so what's the consensus on the blazing spirit blessing
not great before because of a hidden cap on the staff version
feral verge
there's that
fresh steeple
much worse now that they stealth-nerfed it alongside Flamer
cold geode
sorry can't afford more fps
Geforce now?
desert quartz
oh, i have it on a force sword
feral verge
oh, i have it on a force sword
yeah pointless
desert quartz
i might switch it for slaughterer IV or bloodthirst IV
desert quartz
ill keep deflector though since i lean on it pretty heavily when cornered
fresh steeple
sorta alright on force sword if you pair it with the Wildfire talent, but force swords already easily clear hordes, and Wildfire is the worst of the three level 25 talents
Slaughterer is just going to give you much better and more consistent horde clear potential
clear heath
Geforce now?
no
desert quartz
alright, so slaughterer's generally better than bloodthirsty. gotcha
fresh steeple
definitely
desert quartz
i would pair them together, but like i said, deflector to me is an essential blessing so i dont wanna ditch that one
fresh steeple
Bloodthirsty is neat on Illisi, but I think most people would say Slaughterer does the job better
feral verge
alright, so slaughterer's generally better than bloodthirsty. gotcha
not generally
its 1000% better
fresh steeple
you could run both, but the second I think should either be Unstable Power or Deflector
orchid shadow
besides the boss spawns, Hab Dreyko is pretty easy
Really? I find that final room for scanning a nightmare as Surge. Open area, mobs coming in from everywhere, trying to do the objectives. It either seems to go semi-smoothly or a whirlwind of wtf moments. Nothing inbetween, same for that Silo mission. I dread queueing into those on Heresy
fresh steeple
Silo is better simply because the specific area you need to go do is well-defined
so it incentivizes coherence at least
Dreyko and the mid-part of whatever that Espionage mission is called are both asinine with the "run in five separate directions" prompt. Unless the team has a well-defined anchor player or is otherwise coordinating in voice chat, they're liable to just run in opposite directions and all die
naive junco
some people still dont know how to scan is the worst part..
fresh steeple
Surge Perks: Crit Chance or Flak Armored?
I feel like Surge is one of the few weapons where Crit is actually valuable, but Flak is big power, so...
orchid shadow
Surge Perks: Crit Chance or Flak Armored?
I'd go Flak. For Surge, you're probably already running Nexus, so you're going to get more value out of extra 25% damage
regal iris
is warp resistance the dump stat for deimos blaze force sword?
fresh steeple
yup
feral verge
is warp resistance the dump stat for deimos blaze force sword?
absolutely
its actually good to have low warp resistance
for high peril builds
regal iris
excellent, thanks siblings
celest hedge
i'm starting to dig wildfire. the soul blaze spreading can work nice in certain parts of maps where enemies have to climb up to reach you, I was doing that in the map where you had to lower the bridge and the fire spreading was killing the ones before they even hopped up out of their spawn, plus it also lets you switch to melee after spraying a horde so you still get the dot, was nice when I couldn't afford to charge or almost overheated
feral verge
Wildfire is very, very meh
It only stacks 4x
Which is very, very low
Warp battery + ascendant blaze is much, much, much more effective
From pygex, the guy behind the athenaeum psyker guide: PSA: Wildfire while sounding cool is actually very shit dps due to the hidden 4 stack max limit and the 2 stack treshold.
That is Wildfire cannot target enemies that have 5 or more stacks regardless of the stacks on the original target. In addition, 1 stack does not spread, you need a minimum of 2.
What this causes in practice is that you only get Wildfire effect when people die on the edges of the Soulblazed mob and it diminishes very quickly, not to talk about the abysmal damage 1 or 2 stacks do.
celest hedge
it's only 4 stacks per times it triggered but it adds up decently when burning through 20 poxwalkers, they're squishy enough for it to be decent when paired with melee, and the hordes are big enough that there's usually something to hop to
cold geode
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/128 when your game is this badly broken there is an issue
snow panther
if we can infinitely reroll perks for free, why cant we just freaking pick the one we are looking for
fresh steeple
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/128 when your game is this ...
it's all Ray Tracing's fault, I swear
I was still getting crashes every few missions with a frankly absurdly cutting edge computer
and then I disabled RT two weeks ago and haven't had a single crash since
halcyon creek
cold geode
it's all Ray Tracing's fault, I swear
i disabled it back in November
i still crash occasionally
feral verge
nice
fresh steeple
I'm tempted to get it
and try out this "two wounds" nonsense y'all are always advocating for 😉
copper torrent
Just believe in yourself. And if you die, blame everyone else, obvs.
cold geode
melk does this when he knows i dont have the cash
i just want it for the transfer peril blessing >.<
fresh steeple
melk does this when he knows i dont have the cash
New weeklies tho
fresh steeple
i just want it for the transfer peril blessing >.<
Trauma doesn't really want Transfer Peril imo
that's a Voidstrike sort of thing
plush glacier
agreed
spice veldt
hopium for the other trauma marks
plush glacier
only works on primaryu
fresh steeple
hopium for the other trauma marks
loooooool
see you in 2026
so... my Psyker won't roll over their contracts, and it's bothering me
There we go. How odd. I needed to close the game and reload for them to populate.
tired estuary
Melk was too shy to do it while you were looking
shadow onyx
yep
prisma perch
I don’t know which staff to use
feral verge
how reduntant is this
im trying this on my melee-surge build
for potentially insane toughness regen
by spamming ult
cloud sequoia
I don’t know which staff to use
What do you want to do with staff
Kill, stun, burn?
fresh steeple
welp, now 0 for 3 when I swapped out a wound curio
two cursed garbage groups
and one where we went down twice in the last bit, and the Ogryn wouldn't listen to me either time when I told him I could block the gunners with KD
he would just res one person and then move away
weary idol
how exactly does unstable power work
becaus the description makes it sound pretty worthless
leaden thunder
20% power at like 80% peril
weary idol
that's good right?
tepid sinew
Obviously swapping out Stamina and Transfer peril but what for on a trauma staff?
leaden thunder
that's *good* right?
ye
it's not like sluaghterer broken good
but it's very solid
agile garden
Trying to theorycraft BIS Voidstrike.
- Critical Peril + Surge
Or - Warp nexus + headshots
Or - headshots + surge
magic burrow
transfer peril and flurry is best for sustain. You want to be able to shoot as many fireballs as fast as possible before having to quell.
cloud sequoia
Obviously swapping out Stamina and Transfer peril but what for on a trauma staff...
rending shockwave + warp flurry or channel + warp flurry
spice veldt
Obviously swapping out Stamina and Transfer peril but what for on a trauma staff...
I like +Unarmoured and +flak on my trauma for dreg shooters and gunners/shotgunners
cloud sequoia
you got the bad blessing , that trauma wont work 
funny autopistol psyker still works?
leaden thunder
yes
cloud sequoia
wait do blaze away affect DoT too?
feral verge
psykinetic aura isn't as good for this build as i thought
this is better
this is my wannabe zealot melee build
quicken is for insta generating toughness, should your toughness reach zero
it only takes 7 seconds for cooldown
with 6 stacks from warp battery
dry sun
Witch bros
Have a bone to pick
Why, as a plasma gun main, do the psykers get an objectively better plasma gun in the form of voidstrike staff
cyan notch
void cant shoot through walls
spice veldt
void does less than half the damage I think?
cyan notch
void cant 1 shot crushers
spice veldt
the only thing that the void has going for it is that it has 6 cleave when fully charged and is free
dry sun
Yeah but I can shoot more voids before 100% and its unlimited
true shadow
the only things that void have going for it are the knockdown blast radius, 6 cleave, and no ammo/reload time
i can't instantly kill crushers with it, or maulers most of the time for that matter
spice veldt
of all the staffs to complain about
dry sun
I do miss the wall penetration
spice veldt
voidstrike would be the last one that I would ever complain about
true shadow
^
spice veldt
have you actually used a voidstrike?
true shadow
voidstrike is the arguably weakest staff right now
spice veldt
like actually go and measure its DPS
spice veldt
go into the meatgrinder and go dink down a crusher with it
true shadow
use the creature spawner mod and spawn yourself a damnation-horde worth of enemies including the elite types
dry sun
And hits through multiple enemies
spice veldt
trauma is the ground explosion, and voidstrike shoots out a ball
true shadow
voidstrike is the plasma gun-alike that shoots a charged ball
dry sun
Voidstrike it is then
true shadow
trauma is the circle of death
purgatus is flamethrower
surge is palpatine
but yeah, of all the staffs/staves, the voidstrike is definitely not one to complain about or even consider better than any other option
least of all the plasma gun
piercing walls, instantly killing crushers and other instant-fuck-you enemies... etc etc
those are inherently better than this
cold geode
or you know.... just level a psyker
primal plume
warp fuckery
cold geode
Ogryn never ever
ogryns fun
feral verge
ogryn feels so slow
cold geode
well it i slow, but fun
feral verge
ik its got the same movement speed as the other classes
but damn it do be feeling slow
i made the shortest ogryn too
the shorter you are, the faster you feel
spice veldt
but with much better mobility
i can see a nerf to its dodge distance or some minor tweaks to the cleave distribution
primal plume
is there steam because the ship is really cold or is that piece of equipment really cold?
dry sun
Ogryn feels like a shittier zealot. I dont care what ogryn mains say
cyan notch
its dodge distance is already pretty mid
cloud sequoia
Why, as a plasma gun main, do the psykers get an objectively better plasma gun i...
void strike is not a plasma , what kinda rashuns you ate
pale basalt
You fail to grasp the fact that Ogryn is a support class
spice veldt
but not terrible
spice veldt
it's mid but still good enough for most purposes
dry sun
Brothers im sorry for the shit I am stirring. Ive hit the booze hard tonight
pale basalt
lol
spice veldt
and keep in mind that we can spam dodges like zealots, but we don't have a dodge limit on force swords
magic burrow
I like the voidstrike. It's a nice allround weapon
dry sun
But but buuut while im wilding
cloud sequoia
Ogryn feels like a shittier zealot. I dont care what ogryn mains say
its fine no box for you when you get grabbed my mutant
spice veldt
i think it's just the voidstrike looking very flashy
pale basalt
I like the voidstrike. It's a nice allround weapon
agree, it has great cc capability and can lock down lanes of fire easily
dry sun
Why would I want a shield ogryn when I could just be a deflector psyker and cover my bros with my psyker sword block instead
pale basalt
you just have to be able to shoot straight
magic burrow
plasmagun beats voidstrike in the sound department though
feral verge
Why would I want a shield ogryn when I could just be a deflector psyker and cove...
and do more damage while you're at it
unlike shieldgryn
dry sun
Yeah mang
spice veldt
having actually nonzero minimum cleave damage
dry sun
I was playing my psyker since hes 30 now and I saved my bros so many times today by taking the shots for them with my sword block
Felt useful
cloud sequoia
shield ogryn? wait you talking malice difficulty ?
dry sun
Not 2 big
feral verge
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> shield ogryn? wait you talking malice difficul...
i see shieldgryns frequently in damnation
dry sun
2many in damnation
pale basalt
I groan everytime 😄
dry sun
Take them away
cloud sequoia
i see shieldgryns frequently in damnation
they do okay
spice veldt
i saw them much more frequently early in the game's lifespan
spice veldt
now I see them here and there
cloud sequoia
"okay" as in they didnt die alot
feral verge
damnation, low int doggy mode
dry sun
My psyker isnt damnation ready yet tho. My zelly and vet tho? Kinda ohdee
feral verge
i left
spice veldt
but the games take longer to complete
pale basalt
okay as in they don't bring the deeps needed 😢
spice veldt
like straight up, having teammates who know how to hold W and deal decent damage makes games way faster
cloud sequoia
just stack health on psyker, no need good staff just BB all the way
spice veldt
like making a refinery delta hishock from 50 minutes to 30 minutes faster
spice veldt
I hate slow games all the time
spice veldt
i'll eat your breakfast and make you hungry for a few hours
pale basalt
reeee
feral verge
i think i call for an arcotash ban atleast once a day
spice veldt
though I'm more on the extreme side of things since the combat is the main reason I like this game
feral verge
combat my fav too
i am merely here to kill
sometimes those slower games really allow oyu to rack up the kill/dmg count
that's what i like
spice veldt
if there was an arena mode, I would play that all the time
cyan notch
im here to get my god roll weapons
pale basalt
if there was an arena mode, I would play that all the time
it was a thing in VT2, maybe will be a thing eventually
spice veldt
probably
pale basalt
and also those procedural missions, that would be nice
spice veldt
i don't expect it to be an easy thing to do; though some basic arena mode would be nice for the time being
feral verge
i am worried about low peril builds when red items come out
that will mean these swords wont generate any peril
cyan notch
just play psykanium with invisibility off and ai respawn on
feral verge
cuz all stats (like warp resist) will shoot to 100%
cyan notch
infinite content thank me later
spice veldt
i already do that a bit
too bad the psykanium's map doesn't have much in the way of interest
pale basalt
Maybe we can get a high peril sword? I miss them nerfing our push back in beta, you could generate some nice peril and do a bigger push with FS, would like a variant with that
cyan notch
what would that do
u can just do 2 pushes for a bigger push
or push attack for an even bigger one
spice veldt
most sane quietude users
pale basalt
It had a much wider arc if I remember
feral verge
its more than quietitude
its warp unleashed, kinetic shield, unstable power, warp nexus
NEED my high peril
drug
feral verge
stay: mad. bad. in malice.
cyan notch
cuz all stats (like warp resist) will shoot to 100%
highly doubt it
feral verge
having the sustain to spam illisi specials continuously is much more important
i can spam illisi special
cyan notch
if anything theyll only let u crank 1 to 100
feral verge
in hordes, battle meditation usually procs once or twice per swing
dry sun
What do you think the recorded for the brain burst effect? A melon?
feral verge
and if it doesnt, in like 2 seconds peril drops and i can use special
spice veldt
even with my 75% warp res slaught + unstable illisi, I can't do it continuously reliably
I mean being able to chain the specials for a long long time and annihilate melee elites
without needing to kite or take a single break
no downtime
constantly holding W into melee elites
feral verge
I mean being able to chain the specials for a long long time and annihilate mele...
yeah, this i cannot usually do
but i usually 1 shot elites anyway
only ogryns and muties survive
and maulers
eyyy
shock troop gauntlet is back it seems
magic burrow
games that go unexpectedly and hilariously wrong are the best. I was doing a hi intensity lights out malice run the other day, and I think we had the most braindead vet of all time in there. Dude attacked and got killed by a daemonhost like three times. I really wonder what he was thinking.
cyan notch
it says pox hound on ur map
cold geode
which should i do? cant decide, usually run the one with gunner resists
spice veldt
left
gunners and reapers are easily stunned
and you can usually avoid getting blasted by them
unless you only see red and hold W into ranged enemies
cold geode
hehe
feral verge
dead game
grizzled jasper
looks like a normal t5 quickjoin
snow coral
how do some people run so much faster, is that the sprint efficiency perk that's on some curious?
cloud sequoia
how do some people run so much faster, is that the sprint efficiency perk that's...
do they slide?
snow coral
sometimes, but i've seen some that don't slide and just GO
pseudo kernel
Just got it from a Damnnation difficulty mission, rerolled a perk. Any good?
fresh steeple
sometimes, but i've seen some that don't slide and just GO
different weapons have different mobility modifiers
most obviously, anyone using a Combat Knife will run substantially faster than other weapons
fresh steeple
Just got it from a Damnnation difficulty mission, rerolled a perk. Any good?
Not really. The damage and first target are both mediocre, and Mk II is the "bad sword" now
if you want to use it anyway, Unstable Power or Deflection will be better than Riposte
fresh steeple
^
spice veldt
how do some people run so much faster, is that the sprint efficiency perk that's...
depends on the weapon and mobil stat; what weapon were they running?
ogryns run quite fast with the cleaver, for example
feral verge
shit. bad
only 20% flak dmg?
shit roll
time to restart
get good
stay in malice bozo
hollow spindle
😦
feral verge
you know how much damage you're missing out on
that 5%?
i wouldnt even take that into sedition low intensity
feral verge
i wouldnt even use that in the prologue
hollow spindle
I promise
feral verge
i am back onto my horde plasteel mode
only blessing i am missing is slaughterer 4
but im just going to wait for melk, or empra's gift
olive ember
@feral verge doesn't even use the voidstrike
smh smh hes still coping with his purge staff
feral verge
@olive ember
olive ember
"they only nerfed flak dmg, its still good"
feral verge
i used voidstrike for like 2 months
cold geode
hi shock troop gauntlet prologue
feral verge
and now i am using surge, believe it or not
this is my melee psyker zealot wannabe build
i use surge staff like infinite, worse zealot nade
and mulch hordes with sword
all my games are looking like this with it
illisi nerf soon
cold geode
was just in a 5, and the vet was seriously using a rashad
feral verge
these numbers arent that big a deal
yee
i just think its funny to see a surge psyker top scoreboard
with dmg
and the overkill dmg
but that game i had normal overkill dmg
idle bay
i just think its funny to see a surge psyker top scoreboard
Surge have insane amount of crits per run - it contributes to the score 🙂
feral verge
there are some where my overkill is almost as high as my reg dmg
ionic frost
When I run surge as the only psyker (or with another surge) it feels kinda like meh at times...but Surge + Purg psyker synergize with each other for ^
I do like two traumas tho... =)
spice veldt
if you have toughness and don't have focused channeling, it turns out that you'll only get staggered whenever you're charging a cast while sprinting
f focused channeling
feral verge
I don't mind running surge with another surge psyker because I am in melee 80% of the time
So another surge psyker just lets me be in melee 95% of the time
Because most surge psykers use their staff a little too much
olive ember
Focused channeling is useless like I always said?
damn
oh its 12
yay its officially monday again
spice veldt
shame that you didn't give the exact reason as to why it was useless
it was still useful while I didn't know about this
shame that I'll have to be more careful about sprinting
olive ember
I mean
I thought you were talking about whenever your armor broke
and that focused channeling was good for that
spice veldt
that too, but now I stack toughness
olive ember
I didn't realize you were trying to fucking charge it while sprinting
spice veldt
what's wrong with that
olive ember
sprinting
spice veldt
sprint-sliding is one of the faster ways to get into enemies
spice veldt
no
I need my F for when loner specialists spawns occur
and the angle of psyker's ult is not the best
trappers are particularly annoying since they take two pushes to get staggered, and my dodges can sometimes get blocked or interrupted by melees that I'm not paying attention to
dogs are fine as long as I don't get greedy for one-shotting them
feral verge
Why you push them
spice veldt
when they're coming around a corner and they're right in front of me
cloud sequoia
dodge?
cloud sequoia
dont push trapper
spice veldt
it's unreliable to dodge a trapper when they're right in front of you
as in touching you
cloud sequoia
they got weird stagger resist
spice veldt
you can push trappers with two pushes
just QQ cancel your first push into another push
I just don't have the muscle memory for it properly set up
cloud sequoia
nah i not gonna consume 2 push for a single trapper
spice veldt
I don't like to back away from a fight, so my only choice is to double push them or time my dodge perfectly
cloud sequoia
You can press F
spice veldt
takes longer than double pushes
feral verge
With illisi they die
spice veldt
and that's assuming I have my special up
I play extremely greedily, so I'll handle the trapper at the very last moment
the base case is that I'm playing extremely unsafely
e.g., ult isn't up, I'm staying near a corner with a trapper nearby, my special just got consumed by hitting an enemy, etc.
olive ember
as in touching you
just melee them
spice veldt
though just testing in the meatgrinder, it seems to be a matter of just dodging the trapper early
i use force swords with infamously horrible stagger on normals
cloud sequoia
i just power heavy
spice veldt
me too
cloud sequoia
or heavy poke with deimos
spice veldt
but I'm talking about a situation where it's a split second where it's just too short to activate my illisi special
cloud sequoia
infinite dodge
spice veldt
where I played extremely greedily
spice veldt
I don't like to rely on dodging since I have bad attention management and accidentally dodge into enemies to my side, ending my dodge early
though now that i know dodging trappers early is better, I'll prob do that more
cloud sequoia
dodge more then
spice veldt
but I'll prob be greedy and prefer to double-push the trapper to prevent the risk of them running away
I do dodge
cloud sequoia
the only dodge problem is when you accidentally dodge into ledge
spice veldt
but dodge-spamming trappers doesn't work since it'll follow the same mechanic as shooters where they'll track you again if you spam your dodges
summer prairie
Do you also only get stagger locked by fire if you hold sprint
spice veldt
like flamer/bomber fire or shooter fire?
summer prairie
Yes
cloud sequoia
Do you also only get stagger locked by fire if you hold sprint
toughness break mechanic
summer prairie
Bomber
spice veldt
sprinting doesn't seem to change anything about the stagger from health damage
seems to be the same; you'll get staggered, have a period of stagger invuln, then get staggered again
period seems to be the same as well
summer prairie
Is it due to quietitude then regaining toughness and it's getting broken again
spice veldt
nah; didn't generate any peril during so
lemme see if it changes anything if I have an essence harvest stack up tho
summer prairie
Can you charge your secondary while sitting in the fire if you have focused channeling
vital compass
Yo guys currently using the orange; just got the blue from a mission, would you guys take it to legendary and try replace the current or would you just not care?
sry to interrupt i didnt read
spice veldt
yes; my cast didn't interrupted, and I was able to start a cast while in the fire
cloud sequoia
Yo guys currently using the orange; just got the blue from a mission, would you ...
thats a good blue staff
cloud sequoia
Is it due to quietitude then regaining toughness and it's getting broken again
probably fire bad
vital compass
i was thinking it was a beast blue staff too but not sure if it's worth all the resources to replace my current
summer prairie
If I wanted to try out that staff, I would first reroll the blessing to something useless like barrage and then upgrade. Better chances of rolling something good and you'll replace the T2 with a higher tier nexus anyway
spice veldt
also it seems that the stun that the bomber nade initially deals can be ended prematurely by swapping to another weapon, making you actionable again and able to dodge out of the fire before it starts inflicting damage
obsidian creek
what the hell perks are favored for trauma staff? damage to flak and maniac?
olive ember
I'd say the purge is worth rolling but idk
I'd prob replace warp nexus with a trash blessing and then see what is rolled in the 2nd blessing spot
obsidian creek
hi derp 🙂
vital compass
ok yea i can try that ty guys
vital compass
i didnt even think about that
olive ember
I forget is the go to still unarmoured or wte to be able to hit breakpoints
for trauma
or did warp unleashed fix that
obsidian creek
i haven't a clue
olive ember
Arcotash should have you covered
spice veldt
assuming a 60% damage trauma staff (360 dmg), you'll need a 25% damage boost from somewhere to one-shot dreg bruisers (450 hp)
spice veldt
depends on what enemy you hate tbh
with the illisi, I don't really gaf about dreg bruisers
besides throwing them around if you don't one-shot them in the epicentre
I try to minimize the chaos done by my trauma staff, so I prioritize unarmoured
cloud sequoia
Yikes thats a bricked perk
spice veldt
hmm 4 warp charges and 0% peril warp unleashed is 26% damage, so you don't really need +unarmoured
cloud sequoia
Flak
obsidian creek
i was gonna go flak before asking
obsidian creek
what about maniac for dags and whatnot
or does trauma already take care of bursters and dogs?
spice veldt
bursters take like 20x explosion damage so the epicentre always one-shots them (or two-shot by the outer area)
bursters and dogs being infested
dogs take 3x melee damage and will get staggered by the outer area of the trauma staff if they're midway through their pounce
olive ember
you don't rly trauma mutants either so its kinda like
spice veldt
so I don't consider killing them with trauma important
pine relic
😑
spice veldt
so if I didn't care about dreg bruisers, I'd probably do Carapace + Flak
pine relic
The vet says he doesn't think any team could have done that. Yeah, I definitely can't finish that mission with him.
obsidian creek
is trauma effective vs carapace at all?
spice veldt
deals 100% damage to carapace, but you ideally aren't using the trauma for DPS against heavy targets usually
but I usually blast crushers for the rending debuff and they usually appear in groups, so it's more worthwhile than melee/BB in those situations
and crushers are annoying with their period of stagger invuln so it'd be nice if they died even a little bit faster
cloud sequoia
or does trauma already take care of bursters and dogs?
You oneshots burster on max charged trauma
For dog.... Just BB trust me
spice veldt
you always one-shot bursters regardless of the charge
obsidian creek
this sounds like it's gonna be fun
spice veldt
mmmmm as long as the illisi is as borked, I'll probably dropped +unarmoured on my trauma I guess
obsidian creek
haven't used trauma since beta
cloud sequoia
You are not going to like side stepping dog after trauma
obsidian creek
i don't trust the game for dodging dogs
spice veldt
trauma will stagger dogs midway through their pounce
spice veldt
you don't even need to target them with the epicentre
hitting them with the outer area will also knock them out of their pounce
though I prefer to knock dogs out of their pounce with a melee attack since I'm greedy for dealing damage to them
obsidian creek
is the AOE full powered at any charge, or does the power of the damage/stagger increase in relation to the AOE size
spice veldt
damage and stagger increase with charge
well
the epicentre stagger is the same i believe
but the outer area stagger scales with charge as far as I can tell?
obsidian creek
so always go for full charge if possible, basically
cloud sequoia
scale
olive ember
The vet says he doesn't think any team could have done that. Yeah, I definitely ...
couldn't have been that bad
he had a score >60
cloud sequoia
to kill yea, but if you have flurry go do 3x small charge to stack up the cast speed
pine relic
couldn't have been that bad
And it is not enough unless he doubles the special kill counts.
spice veldt
i'd prob only do small charges if I really wanted to DPS a group of enemies down, though I prefer full charges against shooters for the stagger of the outer area
spice veldt
I should prob do smaller charges more often
olive ember
And it is not enough unless he doubles the special kill counts.
damn you standards are high
I get vets who just
recon las
and die to poxwalkers
pine relic
If I kill more range elites than him as a psyker, then he is just bad
spice veldt
depends; could be counterfire vets that didn't pick the elite tough regen feat
obsidian creek
it would be nice if essence harvest worked like confirmed kill
cloud sequoia
If I kill more range elites than him as a psyker, then he is just bad
I always do
Unless its bolter vet
pine relic
And our zealot used one of our precious medi pacs near the healing station, which has three charges left. They were just begging to be lost.
obsidian creek
yeah
olive ember
AB is only rly useful on purge nowadays since flak dmg nerf
and quicken is meme trash that Lazorr picks because ????
obsidian creek
soulblaze is shit though
olive ember
its basically the flame dot, except it ticks every 0.75 seconds vs 0.5 or wte
obsidian creek
is it even possible to build up enough stacks of soulblaze to be worth speccing to it at all?
spice veldt
the advantage of AB being the reach I suppose
olive ember
with like autopistol builds you could use pinning fire and 4 dot AB to do some funny shit
obsidian creek
and that's only if you're using purge staff specifically for dps
olive ember
before the flak nerf
obsidian creek
which i don't think is really viable
olive ember
but yeah they cut flak damage in half because a certain class used flak dmg values against crushers
a bit of a bruh moment but yeah
pine relic
damn you standards are high
It really has nothing to do with my standards. If he couldn't kill that many specials at hi intensity gauntlet, you simply can't finish the mission.
We were only half way through, and I killed almost 100 specials and disablers.
cyan notch
ive had one of those missions before
simply pull the team through through sheer force of will
spice veldt
the sheer force of illisi
and trauma staff for bursters I guess
50 minute games are why I always hold W
pine relic
I wish I could, but I died once and they just fell apart.
Our zealot hadn't used a single grenade, if I remember correctly.
cyan notch
cant really hold w in hi shock if your team doesnt follow
youll just die alone and theyll die after
spice veldt
depends on the specialist comp
if it's not three mutants/trappers and has at least one flamer/burster/dog/sniper, it's definitely manageable solo
and specialists will gun for your team as well
even when split off from my team, I've rarely ever many specialists in hishock gun for me
and they usually come out of the closet in a staggered fashion
as long as you DPS check them, they're fine
depends on staff probably
trauma is nice for staggering flamers and giving that split-second to just run into their face and fuck them up
pine relic
It's the shock troop gauntlet, it's three mutant/snipers most of the time
spice veldt
even with mutants, their spawns are staggered pretty nicely
spice veldt
probably refinery delta then
they come out one-by-one and they're staggered such that you won't get caught in the middle of your dodges
cyan notch
mutants are the worst cuz theyre the biggest time wasters
spice veldt
play mindtricks on mutants to make them target your teammates
digital loom
if a mutant is a "time waster" then you're running the wrong build for hi shock
cyan notch
oh ok my bad
kind jay
the way to fight muties is to stand behind the camo vet
olive ember
3 at a time mutants into 2 bursters and 2 trappers
cyan notch
if a mutant is a "time waster" then you're running the wrong build for hi shock
lemme know what the correct build is
olive ember
maybe throw in 2 bombers from opposite directions as well
spice veldt
as a non-gunker, mutants do require some dedication to kill
feral verge
With enough skill you can kill a mutie with a single bb
What none of you can do that? Level up some skill
spice veldt
if they don't target you, you'll need to be out of position to kill them if you don't trust your teammates
if they do target you, they'll eat your cleave and take a few melee swings depending on the weapon
and you might get forced out of your position to reliably dodge them
spice veldt
not bad, but they do require some dedication
digital loom
lemme know what the correct build is
since you cant figure it out on your own, there's no point in explaining since you wont be able to figure out what to do with it
pine relic
It's best to use Shredder because if the AI focuses on you and your teammates don't know what they're doing, there's no way you could survive.
feral verge
When I have deimos I WANT the mutie to target me
digital loom
get more experience
digital loom
you said it not me
pine relic
When I have deimos I WANT the mutie to target me
Three of them at a time?
olive ember
Iirc doesn't gamer girl run something with like an achlys or wte
feral verge
you said it not me
Blood drunk probably has more experience than you tbh
feral verge
He's got 5 different psyker alts
kind jay
when they spawn in hordes i generally have slaughter stacks anyways and illy will just drop them at that point. bodyguardless muties get an electric prostrate exam
olive ember
He's got 5 different psyker alts
kinda concerning ngl
cloud sequoia
What none of you can do that? Level up some skill
prestige your BB smh
olive ember
what darktide gacha does to a man
olive ember
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> prestige your BB smh
if they added in a prestige system like DRG how many prestige levels do you think we would have
feral verge
Three of them at a time?
That means more 1 shot pokes for me
It's my favorite thing in the game
cloud sequoia
if they added in a prestige system like DRG how many prestige levels do you thin...
1
feral verge
When I hear mutie spawn I literally hope that it's coming for me
pine relic
cyan notch
2 heavies on the obscures
still too slow
spice veldt
2 lights with the obscurus is enough with WU and +maniac, but you'll still get locked into the special
spice veldt
to play super safe and it's easy to hit bodyshots
feral verge
Playing it safe
spice veldt
with sweeping normal heavies, I'll need 3-4 heavy-headshots to kill muties
spice veldt
I never really got into the habit of hitting mutants in the head as they charged since I had the obscurus special to rely on
olive ember
or 2 and a light
spice veldt
oh did the damage buff let it 2-shot mutants with heavy-headshots?
olive ember
idr kekw
Tbf most of the time in an actual game a mutant is damaged by the time they get to you
I can normally finish em off with like one or two heavies
ruby plover
olive ember
idk what it is like from full
spice veldt
even with a bunch of damage boosts (+maniac, 100% peril with WU and unstable power), I'll need 2 heavy-headshots and another melee attack to kill a mutant
olive ember
no clue lmao
feral verge
Who
ruby plover
this fuckin weirdo
olive ember
gamer girl i think hes referrin to
ruby plover
hey wtf
feral verge
Lmao
fallow falcon
Is the Obscurus Force Sword noteworthy for anything or do the other 2 outclass it now?
ruby plover
im a gunker u wanna throw hands?
digital loom
He's got 5 different psyker alts
and not one of them is capable of dealing with a mutant. sad.
feral verge
Is the Obscurus Force Sword noteworthy for anything or do the other 2 outclass i...
It's good. But illisi and Deimos are better
digital loom
imagine being a class that doesnt need ammo and deliberately choosing to need ammo
hipster behavior
ruby plover
imagine being you LMAO
feral verge
So... No. Not note worthy
digital loom
how mald are you right now
pine relic
I only use Shredder at shock troop gauntlet.
ruby plover
u better know what to do though im not explaining SHIT
digital loom
over a video game? maybe get a life so you stop taking this shit so seriously
ruby plover
ummmmm a VIDEO GAME baby this is LIFE????
yeah alright we're throwing hands rn
its not up to u anymore
square up homie
spice veldt
shredder is nice
fallow falcon
Really Hadron? A t1 and t2 blessing? On those stats and perks?
jolly musk
I just got here, but I'm only using guns on my psyker now lol
feral verge
Flip is wanted in 18 jurisdictions
spice veldt
I don't really run guns since I like the basically passive toughness regen from quietude with staff usage
ruby plover
i mean duh gunker is insane
spice veldt
but otherwise, I would prefer a gun over staffs
ruby plover
if someone thinks gunker is bad they're just dumb simple as
digital loom
you want to talk about thowing hands? ok. Flip is a degrading racial slur for people of Filipino descent. Why are you being racist?
ruby plover
dude thank you
feral verge
@ruby plover was behind the killing of Scrappy Doo in the streets of Brazil
feral verge
pine relic
In the last game, the mutants just kept coming, and I was the only one able to kill them quickly. If the vet had been using a Shredder, we might have survived that game.
ruby plover
oh they still think we were slingin drugs?
yeah yeah thats totally what we were up to
ruby plover
In the last game, the mutants just kept coming, and I was the only one able to k...
ummmmmmm shredder isnt for vets lil bro
pine relic
I don't think you could pull that off with any staff.
spice veldt
mm i assume those mutants were accompanied by other enemies so I guess a staff for dealing with whatever stragglers were there
fallow falcon
What can I do to salvage these blessings?
feral verge
What can I do to salvage these blessings?
No salvation
spice veldt
sustained would probably be the one I'd replace with either flurry or rending
pine relic
mm i assume those mutants were accompanied by other enemies so I guess a staff f...
yeah, flamers and dogs
spice veldt
surge maybe
fallow falcon
No salvation
@uncut cradle Kindly inform the devs responsible for the crafting system that I hate them, thank you.
pine relic
I would use surge if my team had enough firepower.
feral verge
I would use surge if my team had enough firepower.
I am using surge rn
With illisi as my fire power
I use illisi 80% of the time
I save surge for when shit gets hectic
Elites/specials and shooters behind cover
olive ember
What can I do to salvage these blessings?
Are you pleased varlet?
pine relic
And my experience is that don't trust your team, so, shredder always.
olive ember
Lmao
How did we come to the same conclusion
I only bring out surge staff for teams which are worthy
cyan notch
and why are u such a weirdo
idk why the gamer girl fellow was so hostile lmao i just asked what the correct build was
feral verge
I had a guy like that earlier today lol
spice veldt
they jumped into the convo hostile so they're prob just like that
feral verge
When I said I liked having a stamina curio
ruby plover
i love people like that
idc if theyre baiting
im having a good time and thats what counts
cyan notch
vital compass
How important is charge rate on surge?
olive ember
Dump stat
hollow current
When I said I liked having a stamina curio
only a stamina curio, not three?
feral verge
Like wtf lmao
spice veldt
that's the overall rating
pine relic
I mean, the left one is clearly better.
spice veldt
i'd focus on this number in particular
vital compass
i just meant so you knew which i was talking about
spice veldt
o
yeah left one is nice
maniac is eh but it's not totally useless since you're prob using the surge on specialists most of the time
vital compass
but yea charge rate doesn't matter then i guess?
spice veldt
if you're not using it for damage
olive ember
@feral verge
vital compass
yea i thought maniacs was pretty good on surge
naive junco
you can always mouse over charge rate in inspect
olive ember
naive junco
the difference isnt much
olive ember
I mean his first msg in psyker chat was shit talking kekw
spice veldt
pretty sure you can one-shot shotgunners with a full charge and +flak? that's what I saw on Jsat's video
primal plume
I sincerely believe the amount of extra casts you can get with this is better than wrath
spice veldt
though I'd say that 0.3 seconds is fairly impactful given how slow it is
spice veldt
I sincerely believe the amount of extra casts you can get with this is better th...
if your build is centered around your staff, sure
vital compass
I see
primal plume
if your build is centered around your staff, sure
then that explains it
cyan notch
Like wtf lmao
you need to close this chat... good luck
feral verge
I sincerely believe the amount of extra casts you can get with this is better th...
Only worth considering on trauma
feral verge
you need to close this chat... good luck
Good luck
vital compass
and apparently warp flurry is bugged on surge atm?
spice veldt
I mainly build around my melee so I prefer warp unleashed
pine relic
The only good thing about a surge is that it kills all kinds of shooters. except for the Dreg shooters.
spice veldt
and being able to kill bulwarks in two BBs without having to manage your warp charges is a nice QoL
feral verge
and apparently warp flurry is bugged on surge atm?
That's a thing of the past
spice veldt
if it had a slightly higher target count, I'd prefer surge
feral verge
Fixed a few patches ago
pine relic
I don't even think the stun is the best part.
spice veldt
like the quick stun without needing to really charge it is suuuper nice
cyan notch
trauma with inner tranq is pretty nice yea
vital compass
That's a thing of the past
oh true
feral verge
Unstable power goes with every other staff
Oops
Meant warp unleashed
Warp unleashed is a staple
naive junco
surge just needs to prioritize elites and specials within prox of cursor. the random targets kinda suck
feral verge
I'm surprised I'm not seeing any other psykers in pub games running high peril builds
cyan notch
dude why 15
naive junco
that would be too strong..
naive junco
you could literally cc the whole map and run to the end lol
cyan notch
casual 3x the number of current targets
orchid shadow
Holy, I didn't realize the Relay Station mats bug was that bad...
pine relic
In this game, you really want to kill things fast instead of controlling them. If crowd control were important, power maul wouldn't be so useless
feral verge
Holy, I didn't realize the Relay Station mats bug was that bad...
Yeah and it's one of the harder maps
So it's even more not worth it
cyan notch
never play it
hollow current
I've only played that map like 5 times in the last month because of that bug.
cyan notch
if you join just quit out immediately
pine relic
what bug
feral verge
I've lost many a run on that map on the first event
The one with the radio antenna thing in the bowl arena
cyan notch
unless u have god rng like me
orchid shadow
I spent 30 minutes just to get 70 plasteel. That's like, T1 Levels
spice veldt
relay station's midevent is fine if you can rush it, but it's really painful if you can't do that
god damn sniper spawns on that event are so painful
feral verge
And the finale event takes ages
olive ember
The one with the radio antenna thing in the bowl arena
that one is easy and yet
fucking pugs
crumble
like
digital loom
avoid trs-150 the plasteel is awful
digital loom
the reward doesn't match the effort
hollow current
crumble
it's really strange how this is the case. 50/50 whether the randoms get through it okay or just straight up die within two minutes.
spice veldt
having one person fetch is fine at the start since the spawns only come from 1-2 spots, though it gets a bit more messy with the 3rd power cell
it's partly due to how enemies start spawning from every side
cyan notch
yea they spawn all around you
olive ember
I mean as long as people stick together its not rly that bad imo, you just do a triangle formation
hollow current
I always try to rush the batteries and can usually get the first two pretty good. Third depends on if the team is holding itself together.
spice veldt
events like that midevent justify my sprint efficiency
pine relic
I saw a plague Ogryn spawn in the air
cyan notch
I mean as long as people stick together its not rly that bad imo, you just do a ...
aint ever happening with randoms step 1 failed now its chaos
olive ember
cyan notch
2 guys are dead theres a sniper and 2 poxbusters coming for you
pine relic
They don't even bother trying to hide it behind the wall; it just appears in front of me.
olive ember
I did the first power cell alone too btw
feral verge
2 guys are dead theres a sniper and 2 poxbusters coming for you
That's not what usually gets me
olive ember
fucking bot teammates
feral verge
It's a mutie
olive ember
poxhounds
feral verge
It's always a mutie that ruins me in those moments
olive ember
I can typically live through a mutie
spice veldt
always the snipers for me
olive ember
unless i'm like super low
even if they catch me i just get yeeted and then I panick F and i'm good
spice veldt
I do not have the reaction time or eyesight to deal with snipers
olive ember
if its a poxhound i get screwed
orchid shadow
2x2 seems to be an odd concept for people. Even from a general gameplay standpoint, the amount of times 3rd and 4th back don't watch out for each other is staggering.
olive ember
simply have zoomer reaction breh
feral verge
That's why my favorite thing in the game is the 1 shot mutie poke
spice veldt
i'm 20 >:(
feral verge
I'm 26
hollow current
must have never played 'get down mr president' as a kid.
cyan notch
you can play perfectly then mistime one mutie dodge slightly suddenly ur taken to pound town and random zombies hit you and ur dead
feral verge
Marked safe from being a Zoomer
spice veldt
actual full hp to 0 hp with muties
olive ember
imagine this the fortnite kids from like 2017, who were like 12 are actually adults now
its been 6 years
ruby plover
26 is like
spice veldt
pine relic
i'm 20 >:(
I'm disappointed with the Millennial generation.
olive ember
isn't that just the worst of both worlds
ruby plover
thats up to interpretation
olive ember
you are called a boomer by the zoomers and called a zoomer by the millenials
thats just
the worst of both worlds lmao
ruby plover
okay man look
orchid shadow
Oh my god
cyan notch
https://streamable.com/khwnxq
ruby plover
too real
olive ember
I feel for you since I'm like 20 and I get called a boomer by like 18 yr olds
spice veldt
damn the age wars have begun
ruby plover
the 18 year olds are calling 20 year olds boomers?
feral verge
https://streamable.com/khwnxq
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