then they flamed me
#psyker-class
vagrant frigate
bitter escarp
IV looks like a fucking smallsword
vagrant frigate
?
cyan notch
i havent had a 50min mission in a very long time
even double condition missions dont take that long
spice veldt
refinery delta is really the only map that takes that long for me
otherwise, it's usually in the 20-30 minute range
though I've had a 30 minute hishock refinery delta game before I think?
or was it 40 minutes
it seems to be one of the longer maps from what I can tell
feral verge
I've had a 1 hour 30 min game
spice veldt
god damn
feral verge
Before
bitter escarp
endless hordes?
bitter escarp
that shouldn't count lol
hollow current
I've had a 1 hour 30 min game
"And I still only got 300 plasteel"
feral verge
It doesn't
feral verge
Going out with a bang
bitter escarp
ah yes
vagrant frigate
lol the racist guys in here i can @ him
bitter escarp
got lucky with that one on the sekrit spy transmission one
swift cloak
bruh
vagrant frigate
i mean i dont know if its
feral verge
Shit
hollow current
the power puff girls devil?
feral verge
Manny looking ass
cyan notch
well ur not supposed to witch hunt here
primal plume
One QoL that might be good for Surge staff. Let us manually aim the first target and have it bounce from there
fallow falcon
Anyone here that can help with the Malleus Monstronum penance since we all know how much it sucks?
Ideally someone that can tank a demon host while power supply interruption is up
orchid shadow
It's been a while since the nerf. Does max block, KD and Deflectort 4, some stamina curios still tank a DH? Or does it eventually kill you?
summer prairie
If you just sit there, you have to vent between attacks unless ult venting is sufficient with that much stacking.
naive junco
kd alone can
fresh steeple
after much testing, I've determined that that first Trauma staff with max damage is better even with less warp resist
spice veldt
if you want some brainless tanking, the MKV duelling sword is the way to go
naive junco
as long as you have a good dodge to gap to vent
summer prairie
Don't have to dodge to vent
fresh steeple
Anyone here that can help with the Malleus Monstronum penance since we all know ...
better to ask an Ogryn, actually, for the shield
also, what's your IGN?
summer prairie
fallow falcon
They sent me to ask here for someone with an ogryn alt lmao
I'll send my steam friend code
fresh steeple
not exactly what I asked. I'm curious specifically as to your IGN
I may be able to help later, but it's 2 AM atm, so not now
but your conversation is strikingly reminiscent of one I just had with a Psyker in a pug
naive junco
https://streamable.com/a2syq2
thats too pro. i prefer to gap with slide lol.
fallow falcon
not exactly what I asked. I'm curious specifically as to your IGN
Oh, got someone just now so no worries, IGN is Siegward
fallow falcon
Need a 4th if anyone else wants to tag along, shield ogryn covered
stable silo
for what build u want feat?
high prism
which ability allow psyker to deflect bullet ?
stable silo
deflection blessing on force sword
high prism
i 've seen some doing some sort of barrier
i don't know man , i favor mobility and stamina upon all else
some sort of dancing around horde then quickdraw swap weapon to suit situation and brain burst elite from afar if needed
wanton palm
I was the shield oggy for the job. congrats on the penance
primal plume
I really wish this helmet didnt have ๐ ฑ๏ธ
ruby plover
how else would people know ur a beta
orchid shadow
https://streamable.com/a2syq2
Oof, that timing is rough. I can do it if I sprinkle in dodges to make space after his combo but trying to get in the quells in between the strikes before combo is tough
weary idol
axe
stable silo
@high prism then run illis shredder for fast paced swap combat
gunker feats are pretty normalized
i have to axe you why limbsplitter sad axe it want blood
runic flint
trauma staff and AB, chefs kiss fellas
weary idol
i have to axe you why limbsplitter sad axe it want blood
I spam heavy 1 over and over again since it's a sweepy boy
it's also the only damage blessing I have T4 :(
spice veldt
there's no fate worse than having to use achlys' h1 for hordeclear
fresh steeple
trauma staff and AB, chefs kiss fellas
that is... a lot of team damage overall... high intensity?
weary idol
there's no fate worse than having to use achlys' h1 for hordeclear
oh it's not that bad
near wyvern
I really wish this helmet didnt have ๐
ฑ๏ธ
Just say you are a vet now when you have that on and they will understand
I use it on my gun psyker loadout
orchid shadow
Huh, I don't think I've ever a Malice game that stayed with two open slots before for the whole map. I would've thought that someone would've joined relatively easy Hi-intensity 3, Chasm Station Assasination... lights out... gauntlet... with grimoires.
near wyvern
The matchmaking is still a bit broken yeah. At times it takes forever to find a game with quick play but if you cancel and re queue you find one within 1 or 2 seconds.
runic flint
that is... a lot of team damage overall... high intensity?
Yes sir
valid tulip
guys I'm coming back after a break last year. what's the best psyker staff for difficulty 4 (heresy) and above?
valid tulip
yeah but which ones are currently better than the others
spice veldt
their performance is not too different to be distinguishable
but if we're talking about ease of use, then purgatus is the better one of them all
shadow onyx
trauma staff was buff so now its totaly usable
valid tulip
oh good
valid tulip
which one is it?
shadow onyx
ilisis
ornate hamlet
guys I'm coming back after a break last year. what's the best psyker staff for d...
lasgun
stable silo
reject staffs embrace gunker
PUrge - Meta staff loved by all recently nerfed for flak dmg great horde control generally taken with the mighty Deimos for dealing with pesky elites
Surge - The considered weakest staff cause stunning is for nerds low horde kill potential can stop elites in their trax low dmg take illis to deal with hordes then shock mean elites with low charge staff swap
Trauma - boom hur hur hur funnest of staffs chads only please, stagger all boom all solid choice generalist pick run any FS cause this staff does it all
we dont talk about voidstaff except for those that like it, they like it alot - ranged horde clear or elite snipe if u can aim throwing bowling balls into hordes is addiction run illis to deal with things if they get dicey as this staff isnt so good into pure chaos (arguable)
my wall of text basically says all are viable and useable but its what you have more fun doing if it looks and feels good to play then play it
except surge staff its only a good excuse to be sword mostly psyker
digital loom
aLL StaF aRe ViAbLe
no fuck that, trauma or bust
surge is for people who havent figured out that trauma is better yet
purg is people who havent figured out that soulblaze is stupid and trauma is better
void is for.. weirdos. It's not better than trauma though.
idle bay
Surge is for laziest psykers - speaking from experience and using mostly Surge ๐
lucid olive
doesn't voidtrike do the numbers
idle bay
Low damage mostly stuns, but somehow 1-st or 2nd in combat score.
digital loom
doesn't voidtrike do the numbers
yes but you cant shoot your feet with it and do something
spice veldt
Voidstrike has the downside of 6 max cleave on its epicentre
digital loom
you're charging your staff about to hit some poor idiots with your bowling ball, but suddenly you hear the back melee sound, you frantically switch to melee to block and spin around just in time to see a crusher 3/4ths of the way through his big swing.
if you had trauma you could have just shot your feet and knocked that big boy on his ass
spice veldt
that's a long-winded way of saying that the Voidstrike has a longer charge time
idle bay
Trauma = Invulnerability from melee field
digital loom
the only thing trauma cant do is stun mutants
but with the addition of deimos, that little mutant coping hole has been sealed up
the only real flaw of this staff at all is that it actually has a firing arc and requires some really stupid effort to aim it
you will enjoy not being able to see what you are aiming at because of midgame dialogue
idle bay
And to use Trauma you first need to overcome disgust to it's clunkiness
digital loom
you will enjoy bunny hopping to hit guys behind a fence
idle bay
And that never happened to me. I know that that Trauma is good - but i can't force myself to use it - too damn karking clunky
digital loom
you will enjoy trying to find that one pixel that will make your explosion disc sit on top of a fence on a narrow walkway when you are trying to hit guys above you behind a fence
spice veldt
you can finesse the aiming mechanics if you stand at the perfect distance away from an enemy
since youll start targeting a spherical surface of sorts rather than trying to mess with the map geometry
but that has the downside of going away from enemies
digital loom
although, if you have the high ground you actually get more range
idle bay
With overwork to it's aiming for secondary it will be way too damn good and will be nerfed soon after
Also i still have not seen Not a Single Damn Bug Report about T4 Surge blessing doing NOTHING for Trauma secondary. We need to know if it's a bug or intended.
DO IT!
I would have made one myself but i do not have Trauma staff with T4 Surge blessing'
spice veldt
you can clutch fine with the trauma, though the Purg has an easier time broadly speaking
I can't believe I'm forced to say that trauma's damage matters
but it's not as though the trauma's damage is wholly negligible
they both have infinite cleave over a non-insignificant area, and that's one property that makes both of them quite good
stable silo
finally got a decent demios
young spear
stray radish
what to do with that one?
cloud sequoia
Embrace trauma 
stable silo
Dang on tier 2 warp but spirit to quel on weak crit chance to flak
sour bison
tried couple runs void + ilisi
shit is fun
trauma is great but hard to use while being shot from afar
spice veldt
use da trauma to get closer to ranged enemies
8 meters of leeway to stagger a ranged enemy (well, 16 meters in diameter)
safe crystal
what to do with that one?
Weakspot damage -> flak or unarmoured, blazing spirit -> transfer peril
stray radish
Thanks!
unborn pagoda
Tell me please the best Perk at Trauma staff with Blessings Rending Shockwave and Warp Flurry
lethal folio
Unarmoured/flak for general use. gives enough power to explode bruisers and consistently kill distant shooters with the bolts.
serene breach
Obscurus charge up damage is stronger no?
spice veldt
the same as deimos
and obscurus's special damage was never remarkable except against flak or to burst down a mutant's HP as it ran past you
weary idol
I don't even know what was going on with Obscurus in the first place anyways
why is heavy 1 not a strikedown attack?
why is its damage so bad on everything?
spice veldt
eh, its damage is fine
6 cleave on heavies, 2.3x weakspot multiplier
and the real banger was that it had exclusive access to slaughterer
weary idol
I haven't used it or even paid much attention to it since it got buffed so
spice veldt
too bad the illisi and Deimos exist now though
weary idol
yeah probably just remembering its wet noodle damage pre-buff
spice veldt
it was fine pre-patch
weary idol
Was it?
spice veldt
yes
weary idol
I'm probably just incredibly biased but especially pre-patch I always thought Obscurus was just complete ass
spice veldt
because you dealt roughly 80-ish minimum cleave damage with WU and warp charges and max slaughterer stacks
aka 11 poxwalkers in 4 heavies, which isn't too bad
devout belfry
I like it more than the thrusting force sword tbh.
weary idol
yeah that could be substantially worse
spice veldt
not terrible
devout belfry
And you could do some silly things with the alt attack.
devout belfry
just...the weird ass vertical heavy that has cleave
I kinda use it V2 style to target elites in a horde after a push.
spice veldt
I only ever used the 1st heavy against bruisers
I never ever heavy-specialed enemies unless they were alone
and that was only reserved for the dreg rager
weary idol
oh also I have +20% to maniacs and carapace on my deimos
which should I reroll to +25%
(or switch to flak)
devout belfry
Lol, I'm still bursting carapace.
weary idol
I'm really indecisive on it
cloud sequoia
aaaa
weary idol
5% maniac shouldnt be a big deal
yeah it already one shots muties pretty consistently
though it already also one shots most flak enemies so I'm not sure if +flak hits any breakpoints
cloud sequoia
Ah you also have problem with that?
kinda ,cant find peaceful lobby
weary idol
damnit
weary idol
I can live with +20% carapace but I was really hoping for uh
literally any blessing other than that one frankly
cloud sequoia
damn it i cant host private lobby or pick the damn mission
feral verge
finally got a decent demios
i'd swap flak to maniac
faint vault
What feats are people running for trauma? 312(1/2)33 or maybe 321(1/2)13?
A little undecided on inner tranq.
worn bolt
I run psykenetic barrage, warp unleashed, stuff like that
kinetic shield (which people give me shit for)
faint vault
I run shield too. I like the DR.
worn bolt
I gorget which ones I left out feat wise, dont have my game open rn
cloud sequoia
wait they reduced that from 20 to 7?
yep
worn bolt
oh yeah I use warp battery and the one that gives toughness on peril quelled
faint vault
Mostly just want to know if people consider six charges and inner tranquility as essential or not. Running wrath hits the dame break points and frees up aura.
worn bolt
which one was inner tranquility?
worn bolt
oh, nah you typically want high peril, not diminishing it
warp battery is legit and the 6 stacks make a massive difference in damnation
as well as warp unleashed
this is what I run for trauma staff
faint vault
Do you hit any important breakpoints with the extra stacks? Wrath already gives you plenty of extra damage and lets you do some funky stuff.
worn cypress
inner tranq used to be what everyone ran pre quelling buffs fwiw
worn bolt
yep, lets you one shot flamers and ragers on damnation with bb
as well as being the difference between 2 bb on a crusher or 3-4
worn cypress
it let you do an extra BB charge, but now you quell so fast and WU became so good that it doesnt make sense to take anymore
cloud sequoia
almost 2 BB for dog
worn bolt
not to mention the extra damage can make illi go the fuck off with the right blessings
cloud sequoia
if your teammate shoot dog one time you can BB it easy
faint vault
Hehe, but Deimos!
worn bolt
worn cypress
not to mention the extra damage can make illi go the fuck off with the right ble...
lmao yeah I'm loving my "charge the mutant with charged illisi" playstyle
faint vault
Hehehe
worn bolt
honestly its crazy, its got amazing cleave as well as legit single target
worn bolt
thats the only reason I havent tried deimos, it just seems unneccesary
faint vault
I know. One shots almost anything with a full slaughterer stack and high peril
worn cypress
deimos stabby is technically better single target but it doesnt overly matter bc illisi's good enough
faint vault
Deimos is AMAZING
worn bolt
yeah thats my point, illi has much better horde control with comparable single target
worn cypress
I mostly like illisi's swing pattern
shy fiber
I'm gonna go with Deimos since I haven't been able to get good blessings on an Illisi
cloud sequoia
deimos is deathpoke
shy fiber
Hadron forsakes me ๐ฉ
worn cypress
I use things that spark joy
faint vault
Better mobility on the Deimos รฆ, and it one taps mutants, which is the only gap in the trauma
worn bolt
I managed to get this off of melk in like my first few days of looking for an illi but now I Cant get a good deimos or trauma staff
shy fiber
I managed to get this off of melk in like my first few days of looking for an il...
bitch wtf can i have it
cloud sequoia
"while you were playing with guns, i studied the blade" deimos
cyan notch
extended dps theyre not really comparable
faint vault
When I run trauma, I feel there are very few situations where I'd rather be meleeing than using the staff.
worn bolt
eh if you get rushed by ragers or trauma pushes the horde apart its useful to wip out illi
cloud sequoia
When I run trauma, I feel there are very few situations where I'd rather be mele...
explode more floor with channel blessing
floor go boom
worn bolt
explode more floor with channel blessing <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
nah rending shockwave is the move
worn cypress
lmao
worn bolt
focused channeling seems kinda pointless on that staff because you never should be getting hit anyway with the amount of cc you deal
faint vault
Hehehe
cloud sequoia
focused channeling seems kinda pointless on that staff because you never should ...
there are times where you explode your feet
like 4 rager coming at you
worn cypress
oh you can play yolo melee range dumbfuckery with focus channeling
worn bolt
correct, thats... my point lol
worn cypress
just exploding your feet as you move through
summer prairie
it's for when you are getting shot at
worn cypress
its hilarious and really fun to play
worn bolt
it's for when you are getting shot at
that I can see being useful, but if you charge around a corner then peak and boom them, then repeat it isn't an issue
worn bolt
in the end its preference lmao, I'd just prefer more damage because I tend to not get interrupted
worn bolt
i run this for funny
mind in motion
worn bolt
well yeah, its not all about me lmfao
cloud sequoia
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
worn bolt
as I said tho to each their own
cloud sequoia
i use rending before warp flury its not really much a difference
worn bolt
nah warp flury is necessary
worn cypress
flurry mandatory on trauma
cloud sequoia
tbh its the same with warp flurry
worn cypress
eh
worn bolt
nah
faint vault
Flurry and RS are BIS.
feral verge
warp flurry is BIS on all staves
cyan moth
thoughts on.... this?
worn cypress
I think charging's really jank w/o flurry
worn bolt
with flurry I can eviscerate hordes, without it I Spend FAR too much time charging
worn cypress
I mean
cyan moth
Not sure if Bloodthirsty is gonna be any good on it
worn cypress
its normally already jank
feral verge
unless you doing a meme fire build
worn cypress
but even more.jank
feral verge
its madness not to run warp flurry on trauma
cloud sequoia
thoughts on.... this?
would be better if its on ilisi
feral verge
thoughts on.... this?
no good
cloud sequoia
its madness not to run warp flurry on trauma
i just got my warp blessing few weeks ago
cyan moth
If I yank Bloodthirsty off this thing can I put it on the MK V?
feral verge
blood thirsty meh, especially on deimos. superiority is meh. crit dmg is bad, and flak should be maniac damage
mkv?
cyan moth
Aye
feral verge
the name of the force swords are obscurus, deimos and illisi
cyan moth
Illisi
worn bolt
but yeah warp flurry Bis, rending for teamplay, channeling if you tend to get charge cancled a lot
worn cypress
its fun to do bloodthirsty+blazing spirit illisi meme build
cyan moth
Do force swords share blessings?
feral verge
If I yank Bloodthirsty off this thing can I put it on the MK V?
it would serve you better on illisi over deimos
worn cypress
yeah
worn bolt
nope
feral verge
yes they share blessings
cyan moth
wh
worn bolt
wait what
cyan moth
oh based okay
worn bolt
staffs dont but force swords do
cyan moth
im gonna take
worn bolt
what in the holy fuck
feral verge
but if you wanted the ultimate illisi/ force sword though
cyan moth
deflector off this thing
feral verge
you want slaughterer and unstable power
cyan moth
i Barely ever use it
cloud sequoia
but yeah warp flurry Bis, rending for teamplay, channeling if you tend to get ch...
before warp flurry
worn bolt
this game is so fucking janky sometimes, staffs dont share blessings but different models of force swords do apparently
summer prairie
staves are nothing alike except for lmb
why is no one asking why all guns don't share blessings
worn bolt
the force swords are also nothing alike in playstyle
cloud sequoia
all melee need slaughterer tbh
worn bolt
every single attack pattern and charge attack differ on them
summer prairie
a lot of their attacks have identical damage/stagger/cleave values
worn bolt
the basic attacks, sure
worn bolt
all melee need slaughterer tbh <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
slaughterer is a tad broken lmao
cloud sequoia
naah heavy sword headtaker
worn bolt
heavy sword is one of the melees of all time thats for sure
cloud sequoia
15% per hit with 5 stack
worn bolt
when does zealot get the darksouls ultra fun sword?
imagine seeing zealot carrying around this thing
shy fiber
thats hot
worn bolt
no u
worn bolt
grizzled jasper
imagine seeing zealot carrying around this thing
this looks really good i can see it being in game
for vet 
worn bolt
cloud sequoia
for a warhammer game, kinda sad there's only 2 hammer
worn bolt
https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-world-hammer-gif-13123229
now you making me wanna get back into MHW
cloud sequoia
MHW > MHRise
worn bolt
based
worn bolt
for a warhammer game, kinda sad there's only 2 hammer <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322...
its called warhammer not warhammers
worn bolt
I remember solo'ing the big boy elder nerg, I forget what they are called
Arch something?
worn bolt
https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-world-palico-food-gif-19939521
kitty chefs โค๏ธ
grizzled jasper
my fat ass could never hit skip with these CS
worn bolt
I like how mh uses sentient cats as slave labor
grizzled jasper
slave labor is fine as long as they're cute 
worn bolt
also can we talk about how much our characters in monster hunter eat? you seen the meal sizes they put down?
worn bolt
yeah they can swing around a half ton slab of steel
twilit finch
Pretty sure the palicoes do get paid. One mentioned paying for college
worn bolt
I think I did the math and the swords typically weigh upwards of 700 lbs
twilit finch
I am totally ok with the superhuman hunters that eat 30x more food than is needed
grizzled jasper
forest coral
Go hunter, eat my sticky balls
cloud sequoia
lemme just eat dangoes as a breakfast, lunch and dinner
worn bolt
rise can suck my nuts, I stay on that MHW grind
cloud sequoia
rise for combat, world for enviromental interaction
cloud sequoia
and world the first monster hunter game where you didnt pose after healing
mindblowing
cloud sequoia
im shocked when i see that
forest coral
also for some reason they reaaally messed up chargeblade on rise release
straight up unplayable in early multiplayer
cyan notch
ls users
cloud sequoia
lmao that looked like GS problem in world
cyan notch
same shit in world u had to use flinch free
cloud sequoia
fkn flinch
cloud sequoia
drinking drugs
cyan notch
it was pretty chill with shield hbg with pierce/spread
cyan notch
for when you dont wanna try
forest coral
yeh
casually hitting 250+ dps per sec when most other weapons lucky to even see 100+
cyan notch
the only melees i used were charge blade and gs
cloud sequoia
world got a perfect ending tho
forest coral
ya
cloud sequoia
fatalis as final
forest coral
fatalis me beloved
cloud sequoia
even safijiva design
cloud sequoia
or the funny crab
cloud sequoia
forest coral
if there was one thing rice did right, it was hammer's combat flow in sunbreak
even if the numbers are a tad undertuned late game
cloud sequoia
nimble burrow
blessed with mh chat this morning, ty frens
twilit finch
I miss najarala
olive ember
These unenlightened people crawling along the ground like insects
This is why I only play ig
cyan notch
ig more like fly around do 0 damage waste mounts
feral verge
top dmg with surge staff
how?
dont use surge
illisi
i think most ppl here know this but
my biggest advice for surge staff is not to use it
dont use it on trash or hordes
only specials/elites and shooters behind cover
surge staff = melee focus
if you dont want to do melee, dont use surge
north solstice
counter arguement, play how you want
feral verge
yeah play how oyu want
but if you want to win and hlep your team
dont use surge vs hordes lol
steel egret
olive ember
clearly you were skill issued this entire time until now
feral verge
okay malice gamer
olive ember
after they killed it by nerfing it ;-;
feral verge
tips: stay in malice
olive ember
tips: play more malice
feral verge
yes purga dead rip in peace seriously considering quitting the game and maybe leaving bad review
olive ember
yes purga dead rip in peace seriously considering quitting the game and maybe le...
true and real
feral verge
i know
olive ember
can't believe they killed purge staff
feral verge
read above
feral verge
i still prefer purga
.
feral verge
you're a lie
you're dead
unusable
just like soulblaze
derpyslurpee hard nerfed
jovial wind
am i going to regret not snagging warp flurry IV from melk store on a surge staff? I dont really play psyker so idk whats good
jovial wind
ok cool, thx
late yew
dont use it on trash or hordes
that should be obvious after trying it against horde once
feral verge
that should be obvious after trying it against horde once
yes it should be but i am still seeing psykers in damnation doing that
feral verge
ok cool, thx
if it were warp nexus, i'd maybe consider it. cuz that's the only way surge can do dmg, really
feral verge
but even then, dmg isnt the point of surge. it's just a stun stick
weak sapphire
Unstable power as perk on staff, purgatorus. Yes or nay?
feral verge
what are you asking?
cyan notch
sure
feral verge
that it be added to purga?
weak sapphire
Im stupid.
I was looking at staff and sword at the same time.
Ill rephrase my question: Is unstable power viable as perk on sword? ๐
feral verge
absolutely
but
only if you play at high peril
if oyu want the most optimal/high dmg build, you play at high peril
slaughterer and unstable power are the go-to
you'll want swords like these
low warp resist is key
weak sapphire
I use the sword to the left but I prefer using Deimos. So Im thinking about grabbing the rank 5 perk from the sword on the left
dry sun
Should i stress about getting higher deflector? I got deflector 1 and it seems to hold up alright against bullets in damnation
feral verge
yes, take it off of obscurus
dry sun
Not too much but can hold one mooks shots which is enough for me to correct my position
feral verge
Should i stress about getting higher deflector? I got deflector 1 and it seems t...
no dont stress at all
deflector 4 only has 12% block eff.
that's the only difference
proud hinge
Which of these blessings should I earn for trauma force staff?
feral verge
and i heard on here that the block eff. effect on the deflector blessing is broken
feral verge
Which of these blessings should I earn for trauma force staff?
warp flurry iv
defintely warpl flurry 4
t4 blessings hard very hard to come by
dry sun
Also which void staff is tastiest. I got the one right now that penetrates through mobs
worn cypress
rending is BIS too but shows up more often than flurry 4
dry sun
I am a baby psyker
feral verge
Also which void staff is tastiest. I got the one right now that penetrates throu...
wadya mean
all void strike staves penetrate mobs
proud hinge
ty
feral verge
they shoot a big bowling ball
dry sun
I just saw buddy last night who was shootin his voud orbs from the staff and all mine came from my hand
So i figured different staves
feral verge
are you shooting a big bowling ball out when you right click?
then that's voidstrike
feral verge
I use the sword to the left but I prefer using Deimos. So Im thinking about grab...
obscurus is good, but it is eclipsed by both the illisi and deimos swords
take that unstable 4 blessing off
put it on a deimos sword with low warp resist
ideally, you want a sword with 50% or even lower warp resist
the lower, the better
north solstice
how does unstable power stack? is it just that flat 5% or can it increase with more peril?
feral verge
how does unstable power stack? is it just that flat 5% or can it increase with m...
it stacks 4 times
near wyvern
how does unstable power stack? is it just that flat 5% or can it increase with m...
+X% that is listed at 20/40/60/80 for a total of 4 times the listed
feral verge
at t4 unstable power is 20% power at 80% peril (high peril)
near wyvern
This and much more are documented in the Atheneum, check the pinned messages on this channel
north solstice
oh youre the author of that?
feral verge
yee
north solstice
absolutely splendid
feral verge
pygex is our resident master psyker
north solstice
i adore them
north solstice
i dont watch youtube videos for games i play lol
olive ember
pygex is our resident master psyker
what am I then ๐ฆ
feral verge
it just shows off the mutie 1 shot poke, a very useful and fun tech
it's not a let's play or anything
feral verge
what am I then ๐ฆ
resident malice gamer
olive ember
as long as you know ๐
feral verge
i am keenly aware :D
feral verge
that's true
malice gamer and obscurus apologist and misinfo spreader
and purga hater
surge lover
near wyvern
Glad my guide is of help, I have spent way too many hours doing free QA for ThiccShrimp
feral verge
at first i was dissapointed by the stam perk on this
and maybe im coping a little bit
but it just doesnt need infested/unarmored/flak dmg lol
that im 'missing'
it just destroys everything
near wyvern
๐ฎ
feral verge
i got a 3 stam curio though
so i got +4 stam in total
comfy
more utility than +dmg
that i dont need
hi int doggy mode
with surge staff
near wyvern
KS is solid choice if your team mates can carry their weight but I gotta clutch res too often
feral verge
209k overkill, all from that sword
feral verge
KS is solid choice if your team mates can carry their weight but I gotta clutch...
with the stam curio, i have just enough usually to make it
the only thing that usually stops me is shooters staggering me/breaking toughness
something KD cant help
unless fatshark lets us block bullets with deflector during revive again
near wyvern
+3 stamina is more than fine with FS and no KD if it's just for self defence, you have infinite dodges anyway
feral verge
yee
violet yoke
If u been playing psyker since beta and u still don't know how to time unlimited dodges that's pretty sad needing Stam as well...
feral verge
If u been playing psyker since beta and u still don't know how to time unlimited...
dont need stam
i just like it
near wyvern
unless fatshark lets us block bullets with deflector during revive again
Try ult into revive but you gotta be right on top of them and ready to start. You should have just enough time to res before the stagger ends. If you have a hard time even one or two +Res speed on curios will create enough marging to do it while drunk
feral verge
i like it for sprinting/pushes
violet yoke
Pushing???
feral verge
if you've been playing since beta and dont know the value of pushing...
violet yoke
Yea need to close this chat... good luck
feral verge
lol what
worn cypress
well now I hope I just dont brick it when crafting
feral verge
Yea need to close this chat... good luck
you are making alot of weird assumptions
olive ember
I use all the stam
near wyvern
If u been playing psyker since beta and u still don't know how to time unlimited...
That's a black and white method of seeing things. Sometimes being able to block for your team is very beneficial (like covering a Res)
feral verge
That's a black and white method of seeing things. Sometimes being able to block ...
yee
i dodge all the time
worn cypress
FS push stagger is quite nice for getting out of being surrounded and shit like that too
when you cant just dodge out
feral verge
on avg i only take aroudn 300 dmg in damnation
near wyvern
well now I hope I just dont brick it when crafting
Don't worry, it's out of your control. Blame Hadron. That Bitch has poor crafting skills.
cloud sequoia
Force sword unlimited dodge count is disgusting
feral verge
if they removed that feature i'd be heart broken
worn cypress
its hilarious, I love it
cloud sequoia
Slimy af i like it
feral verge
fr hadron is sabotaging us
feral verge
give force sword even more unlimited dodges
cloud sequoia
I mean add little knockback
near wyvern
I want to hug a dog so they can take me with them to the skies
cloud sequoia
Wait i should ask to add that on ogryn
ogryn dodge getting blocked by poxwalker not accurate
worn cypress
that'd be amazing
near wyvern
FS is just nutty as a defensive weapon. We have:
- infinite cleave push that can perma stagger trash for cheesing objective escorts
- infinite dodges for getting out of ranged fire no matter what
- infinite dodges to outrun DH given an opportunity to go around something
- bigger stamina bar than ogryn that can be actively replenished between attacks and makes face tanking even DH a possibility with enough stamina
And note, for the last one. Block cost reduction also works and makes it easier but the Deflector blessing itself does not currently give any block cost reduction (it's a bug). So if they don't Nerf it it's gonna get even easier at some point.
Oh and forgot to mention the sit yer ass down push attack for like 4%?? Peril
Rager on your face? Sit yer ass down.
Mauler overhead? Sit yer ass down.
Crusher overhead? Sit yer ass down.
And then we have the case of Meemos for one shotting mutants without even having to dodge them. Reguires some practice for aiming but once you get it it's easy to pull off.
So yeah... Expect things go get nerfed a bit at some point.
cloud sequoia
Ilisi is like duelling sword that can turn into power sword with a simple click
near wyvern
Yeah, at the current state of Psyker melee weapons, the only real argument you should have is Illisi vs Deimos and the easy solution to that is do you need single target damage or horde clear more than the other.
crude trout
And then we have the case of Meemos for one shotting mutants without even having...
I really hope they don't nerf the FS one shotting mutants tho, but bring the other weapon family , like the duelling swords, on par with it but I cant think of anything that would make the other melee weapon family on par with the current force swords
near wyvern
You can love them but they hit like a wet noodle compared to Deimos. Deimos deals more single target DPS, clears hordes faster and has more mobility because of the infinite dodges that Duelling Swords are just our classed on every aspect by it.
north solstice
oh i love em but i still use illisi
id prefer to use them if they werent kinda dooky
near wyvern
I really hope they don't nerf the FS one shotting mutants tho, but bring the oth...
That is what would be fun. IMO they should greatly increase the Duelling Sword cleave damage as well as first target DPS against fleshy targets (anything but flak and carapace). However, the current design choices made by Fatshark would imply that nerfs are coming.
crude trout
them shits feel so elegant
agreed. my psyker feels like royalty when using one
worn cypress
I hope they tune DS a bit to be more in line
I kinda still like how it plays better, it's just totally outclassed now
north solstice
absolutely, the i love how the dueling sword moveset feels although i havent touched one in forever
also does quitetude work with psykernetics wrath?
cloud sequoia
Yep
near wyvern
also does quitetude work with psykernetics wrath?
Every means of quelling. All you can imagine. Peril goes down, toughness goes up.
You can check Atheneum for these. If it's not there no one knows here.
cloud sequoia
I miss the old F ability
near wyvern
Fability
near wyvern
No that's what it was in closed beta.
near wyvern
Yeah but that would be completely broken at the moment.
Flurry Trauma would just consume us all
cloud sequoia
near wyvern
The new Quicken is fine. I have some builds where I pick it up only really for the double stack gain.
cloud sequoia
That one is fun
near wyvern
And you can do perma BB with it as long as you kill with BB on the casts
austere estuary
So yeah... Expect things go get nerfed a bit at some point.
Iโm expecting either nerfs or new difficulty/enemy buffs
orchid shadow
I would sorely love to know how how Blessings are weighted or if it's just my luck. Trying to get any level of Blazing or Cavalcade on a Shredder is maddening.
shut ether
That would be interesting but we never will because it's not Client-side
Best we can do is gather a bunch of data and extrapolate
Maybe I should look into creating a mod that gathers this info every time someone upgrades. Idk how to start or if that is even possible though.
It would be a hard sell to get people to DL it
orchid shadow
Hmm yeah. Even if it was local, it would still be nice to see. Like how the Rarity-reroll mode tracks how many attempts it has made.
idle bay
I would sorely love to know how how Blessings are weighted or if it's just my lu...
I have a feeling that crafting are maliciously rigged. If you are using 370+ items - you more likely to get T2(!) perks and blessings than anything else.
And you are using 360-369 items then you are in sweet spot for T4 blessings.
Also , if you want to see weight of perks for Curios - just keep track of the armory/melk for a couple of week . It will be PAINFULLY obvious that some perks are showing ridiculously more often than over on shop curios. Another anti-player bullshit
And if you have few thousands of mats to throw awyay - try upgrading Curios - and be amazed what perks are more likely to show up ๐
At this point - crafting is way to grow your disgust toward the Darktide way too fast. Only sensible way that to touch the crafting is when you have decent base purple/orange item from Melk. But you may have to wait for a couple of months for it to show up if you are playing Psyker (we have bloated pool of items). Much easier to get neraly-god rolls via Melk on 3 other classes, ridiculously easy on Ogryn.
Another way is to get a nearly impossible blue from Armory - with a good perk + blessing and stats. Like ever gonna happen even with hourly shop rotation. Because of bloated weight of t2 Blessings and BAD perks for Armory items.
worn bolt
ah yes what great blessings for a trauma staff, sure helpful
feral verge
Rip
idle bay
Both do nothing for Trauma
feral verge
Bad blast radius anyway
worn bolt
I just wanna roll t4 warp flurry so I can bless it onto mine
orchid shadow
And if you have few thousands of mats to throw awyay - try upgrading Curios - a...
I'm still using Cheerios from way back in December because of my bad luck. ๐ฆ Upgrading those are a pain in the ass due to the existence of +exp and Pox, hound and mutant resistance.
idle bay
I'm still using Cheerios from way back in December because of my bad luck. ๐ฆ ...
The way i've got mine - i checked Melk's shop each day for a 2 out 3 perks curio even with trash prime stat bonus. That's a guarantied 3 out of 3 curio, even if perks are not t4,
They are super rare.. but still happen somedays.
fresh steeple
well now I hope I just dont brick it when crafting
well?
worn cypress
farmin' plasteel still
naive junco
any word on craft mats being account wide? i never look at updates.
idle bay
any word on craft mats being account wide? i never look at updates.
Never. Naturally. Fish like to drown player in bullshit designs
sterile vale
No word on it, though if I'm not mistaken they were looking into "something" being account-wide a while back. May or may not have been just the blessings. I also forgot which comm-link mentioned it
naive junco
wish i could just play random class to farm plast instead of being forced to play the class i need them on
sterile vale
Ah, there it is. Community Update #5 on Dec 8th 2022.
north solstice
i just want them to find a use for diamantine
sterile vale
May or may not be on a to-do list somewhere
olive ember
damn and here I thought we got new announcement
instead its an old announcement from december
north solstice
lol
naive junco
may as well be a new one.. of the same announcment cuz no progress
hollow steeple
Honestly, the green -> blue and blue -> green dust solution was perfectly fine in VT2
just let us "trade" one for the other
idle bay
Ah, there it is. Community Update #5 on Dec 8th 2022.
Corporate speak for NO
naive junco
actually i take that back. the games better now than a year ago. so its coming along
cyan notch
the games not even a year old
its like half a year
and we still dont have content
except for like 1 map
north solstice
simple answer? nah
content wise we're kinda dry
but they are doing patches/tuning
olive ember
PS02 NGS ate shit because their level cap on release was like 20 and you could hit literally end game in like 3 days of casual playing
sterile vale
I wouldn't expect maps anytime soon, depends on when FS considers the base "stable" enough to build on.
north solstice
but in terms of actual content?
i just want more maps man
i can ignore class specializations
for a while
just gimme some cool maps
sterile vale
Maybe the end of May patch will have that, though I'd expect maybe a class instead
Maps would be part of the story rollout, which is paused right now
olive ember
I want more than new maps tbh
If they came out semi quickly then sure but
At this rate we get like 2 maps every quarter
And after like 4 runs of each map itโs just like โoh okay thatโs cool I guessโ
And eventually they become like any other map
idle bay
Add constant meta shake-ups by nerfing/buffing things
olive ember
A big problem is probably the fact that all the objectives are the same, and half the new maps are literally just inverted versions of older maps
north solstice
also some penances are just legitimate bullshit
olive ember
Eh penances are like an extra thing Tbf
north solstice
ignoring malleous monstronum a handful of the penances incentivize you to actively hurt your team
its the only way to get free cosmetics ;-;
olive ember
Penances are funny in that they are either bullshit or just boring and uninspired
โRevive 500 teammatesโ and โRescue 500 teammatesโ
โKill 5 million enemiesโ or wte
north solstice
Malleus Monstronum is absolutely aggregious tho
without an actual team you are realistically not going to get it in a pub squad
i get its the capstone penance for psyker but what part of your skill is that displaying?
idle bay
My favorite Penance is to complete 1500 missions. The AUDACITY of assumption that someone will play this bullshit Karktide for that long.....
I"m at 1132 missions by the way.
idle bay
Or psyker that mastered infinite FS dodge
idle bay
Before Kinetic Deflection old nerf Psyker was able to replace shield ogryn in DH tanking for that Maleus Monstrum Penance
They still can do it.. but requiures some effort
north solstice
i still miss deflector revives
i was so happy when i got my first FS and deflector and was able to do those
idle bay
Deflector revive disable is bullshit
idle bay
I hope that developer decided to implement that nerf steps on lego a lot!
north solstice
absolutely
idle bay
Bad thing - he probably enjoys it.
Team in charge of Penances having fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcgc9wVNqmM
Barefoot football with bowling ball on LEGOs in show .
pale basalt
jesus some people will do anything for attention
that mofo's daddy did not love him enough
fresh steeple
nobody's answering in gameplay-help. Hope someone can do so here
my Scoreboard is not showing details for Enemies Staggeed/Medipacks/Rescues
idle bay
And then they grow up into game devs and design Penances like "Going out with a Bang" or "Make every shot counts"
fresh steeple
they're always 0 in every single map
I've even uninstalled and reinstalled it. And I've seen on other peoples' scoreboard posts in this channel that it's working for them
olive ember
I donโt use the mod so I wouldnโt know tbh
fresh steeple
doesn't show boss kills either
olive ember
I just know the scoreboard ainโt the most reliable
fresh steeple
it is not, no. But I do know that those scores work on other peoples' computers, so I figured I was missing something
maybe it's a dependent mod that's not updated
olive ember
Idk then maybe ask in modders discord?
fresh steeple
mayhaps
copper torrent
@fresh steeple i'm running the newest version. mine works just fine
copper torrent
fresh steeple
reeee
orchid shadow
There was an update to the scoreboard mod a couple of weeks ago I think. I had the same problem before updating, zero stagger stats.
copper torrent
Are you using vortex?
fresh steeple
Are you using vortex?
no
copper torrent
Hm. I dunno then.
orchid shadow
Are you deleting the whole scoreboard directory before adding the new one?
fresh steeple
I wasn't in the past, but I am now
though I found a nested comment on NexusMods from the creator who says the problem is not updating Animation Events
I just did that, so maybe that'll fix it
orchid shadow
Oh, yeah. I think that's it too, since they changed that a couple of patches ago
fresh steeple
flak damage or crit chance probably
and level 4 nexus if you've got it
I'd say flak is more generally useful. That's the big ticket damage window for Surge
north solstice
tysm
fallow dawn
near crow
Is the trauma staff worth trying to build for compared to the voidstrike? I've seen psykers running them more often and they seem to be pulling weight, but I don't want to waste my plasteel on building a staff just to find out it's bad.
My purge staff build is starting to feel a bit stale, but I haven't mucked with the other staves in a while.
pale basalt
I just can't adjust to the trauma after flurry quel void
and when you get good enough void can be used point blank pretty effectively, force sword for hard target problems
idle bay
Heh.. new forum thread :
Why do you keep playing?
My answer:
- Psykerโs chat in official Discord
- WH40k game that is not complete trash
- Missions are extremely fun (everything outside missions warrants lifetime ban from making games)
near crow
Well... It appears Hadron favors the voidstrike. What should I swap out here? Carapace for Unarmored and Sustained Fire for Warp Flurry?
pale basalt
I think blazing spirit is flashy but not really effective unless you like running the feats that stack with it, probably get more deeps out of the sustained fire
digital loom
don't need luck for that, lmao.
near crow
Does sustained fire count the secondary attacks as a salvo or just the primary?
pale basalt
If you run with blazing spirit may as well get crit strike 5%
Not sure about sustained fire actually, I may be wrong if it doesn't work with secondary
near crow
Not sure about sustained fire actually, I may be wrong if it doesn't work with s...
A quick look on the DT subreddit says it only works on the primary fire, but that's 4 months old so it may have changed.
Gonna check in the meatgrinder
spice veldt
trauma is nice
near crow
Okay. So it does work in theory with the secondary, but because the salvo reset delay is only like, half a second, you can't charge up your next attack fast enough to use it
spice veldt
for Groaner's/poxwalkers it'll throw them around which is either a blessing or an extreme negative depending on the map section
for shooters/stalkers/bruisers, it'll usually one-shot them with enough damage buffs in the epicentre and it'll interrupt the volleys of enemies with guns in the outer area
if you're aggressive enough to work around the limited range and take advantage of the stagger, it's pretty fun
digital loom
Is the trauma staff worth trying to build for compared to the voidstrike? I've s...
focused channeling/rending shockwave with unarmored/flak is the best combo that i've found
it already does enough damage to take out trash so you dont need power blessings, but not getting stunned when you use it is big, and applying a big chunk of brittleness is big for both you and your team
feral verge
Warp flurry + inner tranq lets you spam trauma
Without blowing up quickly
Wrap flurry is a must on trauma imo
spice veldt
I wouldn't say a must, depending on how you're using it
feral verge
It's A big dps boost and reduces peril cost
digital loom
peril resistance what a coward lmao
dont need warp flurry either if you have a good charge stat
good-ish
north solstice
real psykers dont quell peril we just blow up
digital loom
as long as you remember to tap the vent key to get yourself down to the top end of 70% you wont explode
fresh steeple
Enemies Staggered is working. It was in fact a problem with Animation-Events
fresh steeple
Well... It appears Hadron favors the voidstrike. What should I swap out here? Ca...
I... wouldn't buy that.
or roll it, rather
but if you're going to roll, you'd roll off Blazing imo
I tried to make a Crit Blazing work, and it was not ideal, and that was before the inadvertent Soulblaze nerf
and without crit blessing it's going to be even worse. Barely a blip of damage
feral verge
peril resistance what a coward lmao
i like warp unleashed
i prefer it
just giving that guy an option
if he wants to spam trauma like oyu can with voidstrike
fresh steeple
I'm a fan of IT for Trauma too. Makes it far easier to roll off constant Trauma spam, which more than makes up for losing ~% damage on individual blasts
only real irritation is that without WU, you can't one-shot Damnation Poxbursters with BB even at 6 warp stacks
they survive with, like, 40 HP
weary idol
they survive with, like, 40 HP
truly a brain burst moment
hollow current
Trauma staff is good at popping poxbursters if you can get a direct hit on them.
weary idol
barely not enough damage to kill priority targets you'd think it would, way more damage than necessary to kill everything that it does kill
hollow current
you can also spam a few left clicks from the staves at them before or after the bb
But yeah it's annoying they aren't 1shots withh bb.
fresh steeple
Trauma staff is good at popping poxbursters if you can get a direct hit on them.
yup. But when they're far enough away that Trauma isn't able to reach them, not being able to kill with BB either is a pain
hollow current
True.
fresh steeple
the general act of needing follow-up feels frustrating, especially when there are 2-3 of them spawning somewhere along with other stuff you need to pay attention to
even then, I prefer IT
just lets you spam so many blasts, especially in mixed Horde scenarios
hollow current
I still hate they can leap out of side doors without making a noise till half a second before they explode.
copper torrent
stupid question, what's the best way to pull slaughterer 4? You have to fish for it on orange right?
kind jay
or melk
copper torrent
Okay, thank you
pale basalt
I just keep upgrading greens and scrapping the blues
its low percentage but only thing to do with my gear where it is
copper torrent
So it is possible to get 4 with blues?
pale basalt
yep
pale basalt
with state of the game and melk time gating BS thats kind of the only thing to do with mats and money at endgame
peak grotto
This worth picking up?
peak grotto
Gotcha, thank you
feral verge
flak dmg is good
but terrifying barrage is a useless blessing
i personally only consider buying t4s from melk, or godroll/near godroll items
blazing oak
Hunting grounds just ainโt cooperating for me to get pick n mix
white cedar
what perk do I need ๐ค
spice veldt
I'd personally swap specialist to flak or infested, with a preference for flak
white cedar
I usually use with Trauma for horde clear, so infested is best for me, right?
pale basalt
unpopular opinion- deflector is a crutch
feral topaz
what perk do I need ๐ค
Swap specialist to flak
digital loom
look down and shoot it where your feet should be
congratulations you can now go anywhere
north solstice
unpopular opinion- deflector is a crutch
deflector is fun
sinful vigil
Whats a good trauma staff build?
north solstice
dueling sword ๐คข
fresh steeple
Whats a good trauma staff build?
I run 321113 with Deimos
works pretty well by my estimation
spice veldt
the 0.85 second downtime does count
sinful vigil
alright thanks
spice veldt
and duelling swords don't really have the DPS to kill shooters faster than you lose toughness at least when compared to something like the illisi
fresh steeple
alright thanks
alternative options are Warp Unleashed over Inner Tranq if you prefer bigger single hits instead of constant chained hits, and Psykinetic's Aura+Kinetic Flayer if you prefer to never actually cast Brain Burst and just get random charges from Trauma AoE
and Kinetic Shield if you stack stamina and thus don't need Deflection
sinful vigil
Alright thanks for the insight, I'll have to test the weapon out some more
dawn warren
Anyone have a writeup or post on best feats for shredder psyker? I remember something like pinning fire synergizes with AB feat?
dawn warren
sweet, thank you
feral verge
the buffs from your current weapon applies to DoTs
do oyu know if it applies to perks too?
spice veldt
yeah perks apply to Soulblaze as well
north solstice
whats everyones opinion on surge staff? do you think it can compete with other staves by providing utility or is it kinda a dead end
spice veldt
it's fine as a melee enabler
feral verge
only use it for specials and elites
and shooters behind cover
70% of time use melee
spice veldt
though I think that trauma is better for that anyways
north solstice
should i bring it over any other staff?
i got a really good roll so im debating internally about it
spice veldt
eh, I'd leave that up to personal preference
north solstice
whether the CC is worth the potential dmg loss
spice veldt
if you like the playstyle it offers, and youve got a sweet melee
north solstice
currently using this
spice veldt
looks fine
north solstice
splendid ty
spice veldt
pure melee as a Psyker does offer a bunch of dps
esp with how broken the illisi is rn
spice veldt
yeah, quite nice to have maniac to DPS mutants down
you can usually heavy-specials headshot and heavy special bodyshot a mutant to two-shot them with +maniac
might need warp charges to accomplish that; not too sure since I haven't rigorously tested the breakpoints
lethal folio
Surge does do wonderful damage to flak/carapace elites.
twilit badger
With charge up hvy attacks
steel flame
Replace critical with flack or Maniac
edgy lotus
Replace critical with flack or Maniac
ty. Shouls I replace Uncanny strike with deflector?
steel flame
Depends
edgy lotus
ok, ty
steel flame
You can do without. Unstable 4 is nice
ruby plover
unstable my beloved
steel flame
With how much peril you generate you'll say up there with a 20% damage boost
I love deflector myself but it's not a must need for some builds. On a quicken quietude build I prefer deflector+Kinetic deflection. With how often you ult you can almost move with impunity with deflector
steel flame
At this point we need to just be able to pick after rolls become free
cold geode
Man, my highest so far was around 500
gilded viper
Mine personally was a little under 600. Game is silly
fresh steeple
and you spent all that time rolling for something so bizarre to boot ๐
do you find yourself often opting for double Grimoire missions?
ionic frost
fresh steeple
I'm guessing Bart just is trying to make a "specific to Grim missions" Curio set, with the amount of crafting mats on that screenshot
which is fair enough, if one has a tendency to select Grim missions to begin with
primal plume
amazing system fat shark
Holy shit
edgy lotus
what curios do you suggest?
