i do as well
#psyker-class
gloomy yarrow
you can take it if youd like but I like the consistant damage intsead of a one time gimmick
steep shuttle
I thought the soulblaze talents were bad
gloomy yarrow
also if youre a goblin like me you can use the 2nd lv 10 ability and spam your staff
feral verge
I thought the soulblaze talents were bad
not ascendant blaze
steep shuttle
Like you head pop somebody, and it sets some poxwalkers on fire
feral verge
ascendant blaze deletes hordes
feral verge
not exagerating
steep shuttle
Seems like Psyker has several ways to delete hordes
feral verge
ascendant blaze at 6 warp charges will literally delete hordes
and rooms full of shooters
gloomy yarrow
yeah Ive been dicking around wiht gun pysker and it seems to have weird interactions with shredder +power
it EATS hoards
feral verge
only wrack and ruin and wildfire are bad/meh
gloomy yarrow
wildfire is good in tighter maps
feral verge
wildfire is good in tighter maps
nah
north solstice
i still have no idea how big the range is for ascendant blaze
gloomy yarrow
30m
feral verge
it only applies 4x stacks of burn
gloomy yarrow
and it goes though walls
gloomy yarrow
it only applies 4x stacks of burn
6 if warp battery
gloomy yarrow
wildfire is alright
I wouldnt take it if Im not going to do that scanning mission tho
its a bit too situational
crude cape
what are the best perks to have on a surge lightning staff?
also, is illisi force sword a good pair with it?
gloomy yarrow
what are the best perks to have on a surge lightning staff?
also, is illisi for...
illisi is good in general
stray radish
so for Void staff - best lvl30 perk? quicken?
feral verge
what are the best perks to have on a surge lightning staff?
also, is illisi for...
yes illisi is a good pairing with surge staff
crude cape
ok cool
feral verge
if you want to be a good surge staff psyker, dont use surge staff on hordes
gloomy yarrow
so for Void staff - best lvl30 perk? quicken?
kinetic barrage is pretty good
steep shuttle
illisi light spam is also p good at hitting heads
feral verge
only use surge for shooters, adn elites/specials
feral verge
use your melee 70% of the time
subtle linden
for horde cleaving
crude cape
what blessings do i want on a surge staff and the illisi?
feral verge
what blessings do i want on a surge staff and the illisi?
illisi you want slaughterer and unstable power
crude cape
deflector or quell power
the week illisi came out it felt like it had built-in deflector. was that a bug?
subtle linden
yea
worn bolt
idk man unstable power is too good to pass up
subtle linden
it was a bug
feral verge
you want maniac dmg and infested/flak/unarmored dmg on illisi
subtle linden
itt did have deflector but its been fixed
crude cape
they fixed it? nooooo
stray radish
crude cape
damn i was hyped about that
crude cape
i guess i have to use my old normal force sword, until i get one with deflector
crude cape
really? it help a lot for me
worn bolt
you don't but it makes oneshotting most specials pretty easy
worn bolt
or you talking about deflector
crude cape
is voidstrike staff + illisi or normal force sword better than a surge setup
or just different?
feral verge
if you want to use staff more, go with voidstrike
subtle linden
emperors hand me downs
feral verge
surge staff is for melee focus psyker
crude cape
ah i see, you use the staff less on surge
subtle linden
🤮
feral verge
ah i see, you use the staff less on surge
a good psyker uses surge less, and melee more
i see too many bad psykers using surge on hordes. its bad for that
use melee for hordes/groups
crude cape
i hate to be annoying, i do have purple or legendary staffs for both so taking notes havent played in a while
subtle linden
honestly i just use surge to one tap qq quick swap green eyed shooters
crude cape
would surge and void use different talents?
subtle linden
or stun shooters
crude cape
right now im using 1111123 for both
feral verge
i hate to be annoying, i do have purple or legendary staffs for both so taking n...
it's great to ask questions, its not annoying
fallow dawn
only 10 more
inland juniper
man levelling psyker feels like shit
subtle linden
my favorite leveling experience was ogryn
inland juniper
most fun class
north solstice
i actually really liked zealot but ogryn was up there if not tied
crude cape
it's great to ask questions, its not annoying
thanks, thinking of rocking voidstrike staff + blaze force sword, now instead of surge. its not amazing but its my best 2 items i think. What feats/talents should i run, is 111113 ok?
subtle linden
its a whole different level
honestly
i havent used obscurus in a long time since illisis or deimos came out
deimos is better at killing elites
illisis is best at cleaving
and can still handle elites
what does obscurus really do
subtle linden
master of none
north solstice
dooky moveset wise
subtle linden
ya
orchid shadow
I found Ogryn is the most boring to level. Theres difference in safety you feel just pressing W + LMB and walking into things. Repeat until 30.
north solstice
this man clearly doesnt hurl boxes at peoples heads
south zephyr
what are the best perks/blessings for surge?
subtle linden
probably flurry and warp nexus
south zephyr
I don't remember getting this, but I have it, so might as well use it
orchid shadow
Maniac
subtle linden
and up warp nexus
long osprey
I put more crit chances on my staff because why not
Surge that is, since the damage is shit anyway
north solstice
sprint efficiency 🥴
long osprey
I got like 26% crit chance base on it
north solstice
thoughts?
long osprey
That should work
north solstice
damnation or nah?
long osprey
Should be ok
gloomy yarrow
damnation or nah?
yeah, Ive unironically been taking a blue purgatus in damnation and it works great
north solstice
oh splendid
orchid shadow
I'd go Unarmored to Flak
south zephyr
what's the surge build nowadays?
subtle linden
probably a quicken build to keep quelling faster with F?
dunno
with like kinetic flayer to stack up
orchid shadow
what's the surge build nowadays?
Not sure what everyone else runs, but I do 1, 3, 2, 2, 3, 1. Fourth ability is switchable.
south zephyr
Quietude fall out of favor?
orchid shadow
I used to run Inner Tranquility for more lightning spam, but I've gotten used to weaving in a quell or two to accommodate for Warp Unleashed + Illisi spam.
I think Quietude is still the normal pick.
orchid shadow
Quietude fall out of favor?
Oops, just took a look at my feats again. I've got it backwards. 😛 I run 3, 1, 2, 2, 1, 3.
I had to look again because I was sure I was running Quietude when you asked.
gloomy yarrow
fucking FINALLY I got deflector and of course it just has to be rank 1
spice veldt
t4 deflector exists, but it's nto really that impactful anyways
just a 3% increase in block efficiency which is not likely to be felt
steep shuttle
I thought deflector wasn't that useful
wheat olive
hello, any thoughts on whether the staff on the left is worth buying? Staff on right is my current main
steep shuttle
compared to a blessing that kills stuff
spice veldt
deflector is still nice as a defensive tool
if you want to absolutely guarantee your survival against enemies
steep shuttle
if you're out in the open and getting shot
spice veldt
just that I personally advise against it since I have a "DPS is the best CC" mentality
but I do think it has a strong use case
and it's not like the blessings other than slaughterer are really that big
steep shuttle
I try not to put myself in the position where I have to make my own cover
spice veldt
I always do to rush a map
I dodge-slide into ranged enemies as much as I can to speed things up
wheat olive
I live by Deflector, it lets my Psyker become a melee powerhouse. You can quickly gap close groups of ranged mobs and use Deflector when they catch you off-tempo
spice veldt
how are you gonna build ur cardio like that smh
wheat olive
because if you dodge-slide into large enough groups they will catch you off-tempo
spice veldt
only if your toughness gets peeled
you'll only get staggered by ranged enemies if you take health damage from ranged
steep shuttle
You can sidestep gunfire if it's just a couple of guys
another story when it's a room full of them
spice veldt
and shooters will block each other's shots
steep shuttle
or a platoon that walks up behind you
potent glade
if you play with deflector you will truly know the way of the blade
spice veldt
unless the shooters have a straight up concave on you, you're not likely to get blasted as long as you time your dodge-slides properly
steep shuttle
You just have to time a sidestep just around their lil telegraph flashes
spice veldt
because psykers have the same dodge interval as zealots of 0.15 seconds
you don't even really need to time it with dodge-slides
just spam the shit out of it
ornate hamlet
Deflector + slaughterer is litty
steep shuttle
Dodging shotguns and traitor leaders is kind of predictable too
I will say that I appreciate deflector when I'm getting shotgunned tho
spice veldt
orchid shadow
I ran T4 Deflector for a long time. But post nerf, it's one of those things that you only miss when you're suddenly in a situation that Deflector would have saved you.
wheat olive
unless the shooters have a straight up concave on you, you're not likely to get ...
what I mean is if you're running into a group of 7+ ranged mobs, some of them will be shooting when the others stopped, and there is a small interval between when you end your dodge-slide to when the next one begins. That's when you can use Deflector and sidewase dodge-slide to regain momentum
spice veldt
enemies will stop their volley if you're in a dodge state sometimes
meaning that they'll eventually have their shots synced up mostly
and the interval between your dodge-slides isn't likely to peel the entirety of your toughness
worn bolt
what blessing were optimal for trauma again? I forget as my last one was ass I just made a much better one (hopefully)
spice veldt
here's another example; you'll notice that I get shot the moment I stop dodge-sliding https://streamable.com/mrgmkh
spice veldt
what blessing were optimal for trauma again? I forget as my last one was ass I j...
flurry, rending, and/or focused
nowadays, I think that focused is a bit meh
so warp flurry + rending shockwave
worn bolt
Ive got a tier 2 rending shockwave on this one unfortunately and transfer peril which is useless for trauma
yeah this staff might be bricked.. rough
wheat olive
Is Warp Nexus good for Purge staff, assuming you already have Warp Flurry?
wheat olive
hello, any thoughts on whether the staff on the left is worth buying? Staff on r...
trying to decide if it's worth buying the one on left
worn bolt
is this salvageable?
spice veldt
could be better, and I don't like the 70% charge rate, but it's usable
subtle linden
usable until better
worn bolt
I don't have t3 warp flurry so best I Could do is t2 blessings which is meh
subtle linden
preferably u wouldve wanted flurry instead of transfer peril
spice veldt
Is Warp Nexus good for Purge staff, assuming you already have Warp Flurry?
yeah, since crits apply 2 stacks; it's one of the better blessings at the very least
subtle linden
so u can roll rending to higher
wheat olive
yeah, since crits apply 2 stacks; it's one of the better blessings at the very l...
ok ty. I'm gonna buy the staff from Melk then
worn bolt
preferably u wouldve wanted flurry instead of transfer peril
thats the goal yeah, need to find it on another staff tho for t3+ at least
agile garden
Voidstrike Staff and breakpoints. What perks go well with a voidstrike staff?
flat vigil
Flak and unarmoured I think
agile garden
Flak and unarmoured I think
I am going crit for synergy with Surge, but which is more important flak or unarmored?
worn bolt
now I just need to figure out if I wanna use t2 warp flurry or t3 warp nexus
agile garden
unarmored is flexible
so Flak then unarmored, thanks
flat vigil
I am going crit for synergy with Surge, but which is more important flak or unar...
I would say flak for sure
worn bolt
esp for surge staff
agile garden
I would say flak for sure
or should i go flak and unarmored and still take surge blessing?
or just say screw surge, and go with flurry
flat vigil
Oh wait I thought you meant surge staff not the blessing 😂
feral verge
or just say screw surge, and go with flurry
flurry is BIS (best in slot) on all staves
flat vigil
I'm not sure then tbqh, I've actually never even seen that blessing before lol
wheat olive
How does Terrifying Barrage work for Purge staff? I use a staff with it equipped, and I notice when I light trash mobs on 'fire' they start dancing in pain and therefore can't attack me - is that Terrifying Barrage in action or just Purge Staff's in general?
wheat olive
trash 😦
feral verge
that fire dancing is form purga
wheat olive
Gotcha. So no use even on ranged mobs?
wheat olive
gotcha ty
feral verge
swap off to literally anything else
purga already suppresses enemies
that's why it's useless
its bad on surge too
useless on all staves
wheat olive
In that case, meet my new staff! Any thoughts on how I can improve it?
probably going to swap Flak damage for Unarmored damage
flat vigil
So if you have surge on a voidstrike staff is it more worth it to swap off the unarmoured for crit chance or do you need the perks for breakpoints?
subtle linden
flak still does a large amt of dmg from fire
even tho it was nerfed due to zealots
its still really strong
feral verge
So if you have surge on a voidstrike staff is it more worth it to swap off the u...
idk, but if you want the BIS voidstrike, you want warp flurry and transfer peril
feral verge
probably going to swap Flak damage for Unarmored damage
i have crit chance on my purga
flat vigil
Got it, thank you
feral verge
unarmored is locked, but if ihad the choice, i'd swap my unarmored perk to flak
feral verge
In that case, meet my new staff! Any thoughts on how I can improve it?
also, upgrade warp nexus to t4 whenever you get that
do not upgrade warp flurry to t4
because warp nexus will give you more damage
(if unclear, if you were to upgrade warp flurry to t4, your warp nexus perk would be stuck at t3)
warp nexus takes priority
my purga. if i could, i'd swap unarmored for flak dmg
but unarmored is still good
wheat olive
thank you, I'll keep that in mind!
ember sentinel
would flak not be better there over crit?
i figure warp nexus would provide enough crits
agile garden
flurry is BIS (best in slot) on all staves
I think the quell peril on headshot is best on voidstrike. So prob flurry next eh.
I want to like surge blessing but I feel it need the +crit blessing.
agile garden
i figure warp nexus would provide enough crits
I have a nice staff that has work Nexus and surge and plus crit as a hurricane I don't really notice it when surge procs.
still socket
U Guys are so lucky 🙏
brisk junco
just downloaded scoreboards this morning, had no idea how much overkill damage i'm doing
but im guessing it can't be helped as a psyker
feral verge
Psyker is usually overkill king
cold geode
my overkill lol
brisk junco
lol, well at least i know it's not just me then
@cold geode what staff were you using?
I was playing trauma staff
brisk junco
ah, yes indeed lol
orchid shadow
So many of my nice green and grey shredders.. ruined in their infancy by Speedload...
molten sparrow
Oh... look what I just got.
pearl lion
Day 3 of literally no force weapons. Thanks Melky
molten sparrow
get rid of terrifying barrage
yes
feral verge
based
fresh steeple
I would like to disseminate "FOR SCIENCE!" news
the Warp Resistance breakpoint for a level 4 Warp Flurry Trauma staff is 69%
if you have at least 69, you can get 8 total casts from 0 Peril instead of 7
and end at exactly 99% peril
feral verge
citation needed
i'm going to need to see atleast 7 different well documented graphs showing this
as well as a 5 hour youtube video essay
fresh steeple
as well as a 5 hour youtube video essay
feral verge
Finally Unstable Power 4
based congrats
fresh steeple
this assumes a base charge rate of over 75, btw
wet jacinth
twilit flicker
missed out on warp flurry 4 for trauma, oh well I dont use it much anyway
hollow current
Warp flurry 4 is so good on trauma. But if you don't use it 🤷♂️
rare furnace
orchid shadow
Can anyone who has a vet that runs that new Incendiary Shotgun clue me in on it's benefits? I mean, I found it fun to use, and it shoots through walls, but games with people running them always seem tougher? For lack of a better word
hollow current
vet probably can't kill the shooters as easily/quickly probably.
cold geode
i mostly use it on my zealot, with the charge it can kill crushers in 3 headshots
also you can instant draw and fire it
orchid shadow
Ah, so carapace then. That makes sense, but man. My brain burst was working overtime trying to get everything in the last game with no vet and one of the zealots using it.
cold geode
they dont know what they are doing then
fresh steeple
soliciting community opinions:
a second I rolled for the lulz
a third I could roll for the lulz
gilded viper
For Illisi Trauma, what talents are people running?
fresh steeple
whoops, wrong screenshot. Actual one I'm using:
fresh steeple
For Illisi Trauma, what talents are people running?
I use Deimos over Illisi, but 321113
cold geode
it can also 3/4 shot bulwarks and reapers
spice veldt
312233
gilded viper
I could run Deimos, I haven’t used it much.
You just do light heavy right? No charge?
cold geode
need fullbore / no respite for all that though
fresh steeple
my question on my end is this: go with the low damage one in exchange for best blast+charge+warp, go with the +6 brittleness one for middle ground but less Brittleness, or go for the max damage one to save mats but also it misses a breakpoint for an extra charge?
spice veldt
with illisi trauma, I mainly use illisi as most as I can and reserve the trauma for the occasional groups of crushers/shooters that are too spread put
fresh steeple
I could run Deimos, I haven’t used it much.
You just do light heavy right? No ch...
I use charge when I'm not in a position to get good heavies off. But I also rarely use the weapon anyway. Just Trauma spam all day. But I think Illisi is most wasted on Trauma because Ilisi's value is for hordes, and Trauma handles hordes just fine
spice veldt
I don't like trauma for pure hordes because it can cause chaos
the illisi works well enough for that purpose without potentially spreading enemies about
fresh steeple
I don't like trauma for pure hordes because it can cause chaos
they really don't bounce aroudn much in a horde scenario. The neighbors bodyblock any ragdolls
spice veldt
and while their roles overlap, theres usually enough enemies to proc slaughterer and wipe melee elites off the face off the earth
fresh steeple
any thoughts on rolling that 67% damage one on my end? It doesn't appear to have any missing breakpoints because of the slightly lower roll
spice veldt
67% damage is fine
fresh steeple
about 3% less damage than max roll, in exchange for max charge and warp resist
of course I have to hit Rending at topend for it to matter, but I'm sitting on a lot of plasteel 😛
spice veldt
I run a 53% dmg roll, though I also run warp unleashed
fresh steeple
I'll roll it just to see if I can hit Rending. If I can't, it's a wash anyway, because I prefer warp 4 reroll
no point in swapping from 75 to 80 if warp is level 3 instead of 4 😛
womp womp
no 67 roll for me. Rolled into Nexus 😛
(and sprint efficiency)
okay, so the question is narrowed.
This guy for +2 more rending and a teeeensy bit more damage
or this guy for an extra charge from 0?
I'm leaning toward 2
not that I don't like a max rending roll, but +6 gives about as much team value in my mind
gilded viper
Do we run +carapace on Deimos? Or like flak and maniac?
fresh steeple
just kill Crushers with BB 😛 Flak/Maniac are far more versatile
cold geode
flak/maniac, makes it so you can one shot maniacs with the second heavy
get unstable power/slaughter on it
warp res is the dump stat with both the new swords
so you can use the secondary to get up to +80% peril easily
fresh steeple
oooooh boy gambling just paid out for me today
cold geode
i know at 41% warp res you can get up to 80% peril in 3 specials
fresh steeple
impulse rolled a bad purple force sword and hit levle 4 slaughterer for the first time
fresh steeple
huzzah
any thoughts at all on that Trauma? If not, I guess I'll just test them out myself and see which one I like more. Only a few hundred plasteel for the perk fix
cold geode
dump maniac for flak imo
fresh steeple
yeah, I was thinking the same
cold geode
ahh there are two choices
fresh steeple
though that isn't my question. I'm asking about the Trauma staves up above
fresh steeple
gotcha. Well, yes, I'd do that
fresh steeple
reasoning being?
cold geode
more brittle means more dps from the group on big mobs
fresh steeple
more valuable to you than an additional full Trauma charge before quelling?
main reason I agree with +8 over +6 is that the increase in warp is only changing my total number of charges in perfect "I start at 0 and am not interrupted once for the entire peril bar" scenarios
cold geode
you can apply the brittleness with out full charge to large mobs
fresh steeple
a full additional charge is a big personal dps increase when I can achieve it. But I rarely get that opportunity in missions. There's usually something that stops me from going from 0 to 100.
fresh steeple
certainly can, and probably will
shadow quail
does anyone else get much better luck with their alts?
my vet is getting cyclers few times a week and psyker gets fuck all good stuff 
cold geode
donno, my melk has been shit all week for all my characters
fallow dawn
i just did the true duo with some random guy XD
primal plume
how good is this?
hollow current
a wound is decent for heresy/damnations especially if new to it but those perks aren't great imo.
fallow falcon
What's wrong with toughness regen and revive speed?
primal plume
something something dont get hit in the first place idk
long wharf
actually there's nothing wrong with that curio
if you want the extra breathing room a wound gives you, that's fine
toughness regen is one of the better perks for any curio
corruption resistance isn't useless, but I wouldn't prioritize it over block efficiency or sniper resistance
primal plume
cool system
feral verge
For this reason: Imo wounds are playing with the intent of failure, in a way. It's better to prevent going down in the first place, either with HP, toughness or even stamina for pushing. With more HP or toughness you are less likely to go down. With 1 extra wound, you need to go down twice in order for it to actually benefit you. Whereas toughness or HP will always be helpful. Typically in those games where you go down twice, the round is doomed anyway. Even on damnation I feel med stations are plentiful enough where + wounds are unnecessary
if you still feel wounds are necessary, only run +1
never run more than that
river sierra
Same
fierce sinew
just decided right before the first commsplex objective that we didn't deserve to play the videogame ig
rose lily
damn what are the best blessing for surge staff?
feral verge
warp nexus warp flurry
(but dont worry too much about it because its just a stun stick)
not for dmg
rose lily
true
fierce sinew
one day we'll get the oops all crushers modifier
and surge will be the damage staff
rose lily
support stick haha
cold geode
oops all pox bursters
fierce sinew
until then cc bot
fierce sinew
just upgrade high mod weapons they said
high tier blessings/perks guaranteed they said
hadron cares not
snow panther
north solstice
For this reason: Imo wounds are playing with the intent of failure, in a way. It...
I disagree, while you make a valid point of not planning for failure, its simply a plan B. If I have all my toughness and HP a single mistake can end up killing me as ive played with low wounds and have been successful but its a much more tense play session. Although I whole heartedly agree with really only running +1/2 wounds, any more for a psyker is unnecessary
long wharf
you should never run 2x +1 wound curious
winter spire
Got this sword as is when upgrading from grey, wondering what perk I should change if anyone is familiar with the deimos.
feral verge
Got this sword as is when upgrading from grey, wondering what perk I should chan...
crit chance to maniac
winter spire
gootta change my playstyle for it probably, though mutant is maniac so that d be good
feral verge
its very, very good
you can 1 shot mutants to the head
with the 2nd heavy (the stab)
watch this vid to learn the tech
feral verge
gootta change my playstyle for it probably, though mutant is maniac so that d be...
you should be killing mutants with melee anyway
unless you use shredder auto pistol build
because staff and BB are way too slow
ragers are also maniacs, as well as trappers and flamers
flak and maniac dmg are likely the most universally useful perks in the game
ornate hamlet
I disagree, while you make a valid point of not planning for failure, its simply...
ngl psyker can get so cracked I don't even think of running any wound curios
vet might be the carry class, but psyker is the clutch one
feral verge
i think zealot can clutch harder than psyker more often
hollow current
getting bb off on the mutant is decent and helpful imo but yeah if you're in melee range then melee the thing.
feral verge
but yee
ornate hamlet
zealot can clutch well, but they don't have the versatility to do it like a psyker
feral verge
my tune would change if medicae were way more rare
ornate hamlet
I mean
feral verge
but it's so plentiful in most games that you dont need wounds
ornate hamlet
a FS psyker can solo a daemonhost by just dodging sideways
feral verge
the vet triggered the host or whatever
and somehow my lmb agro'd it
even though i was relatively far way
(purga lmb)
but good thing i had deimos
ornate hamlet
you also got crack-cocaine tools like kinetic deflection, deflector, kinetic barrage and muh laspistol
feral verge
just dodged in a cirlce until team killed it
ornate hamlet
you can revive without ulting, block ranged attacks if you position badly, ult to do some funny two-taps while making space to start them, use funny guns with 24% extra damage
the class is just so fun
crude cape
what main blessing do you all use on your curios
ornate hamlet
I use 2 toughness and 1 health
feral verge
2x hp, 1x 3 stamina
ornate hamlet
Those shooters really piss me off, so I want the funny bar
crude cape
no wounds O.o
feral verge
if i have kinetic deflector on (which i currently dont) i will run 3x hp
feral verge
no wounds O.o
yes, here's why
For this reason: Imo wounds are playing with the intent of failure, in a way. It's better to prevent going down in the first place, either with HP, toughness or even stamina for pushing. With more HP or toughness you are less likely to go down. With 1 extra wound, you need to go down twice in order for it to actually benefit you. Whereas toughness or HP will always be helpful. Typically in those games where you go down twice, the round is doomed anyway. Even on damnation I feel med stations are plentiful enough where + wounds are unnecessary
spice veldt
2 tough 1 stam
feral verge
if you can take less than idk 600~ dmg in your damnation games on avg, you shouldnt be running wounds
worn heath
maps are generally generous enough that going down more than 2 times before a station is like theres other issues going there
feral verge
if you're tkaing close to 1k dmg every game, go with wounds until you learn to avoid that dmg
spice veldt
I take less than that but I tend to throw at random moments and take 100 damage in a second
feral verge
i think my avg is around 300
spice veldt
I'm too allergic to cover
ornate hamlet
When I dodge a trapper into a wall
crude cape
why +stam? I tend to use peril blocking feat so would stam be bad then
feral verge
why +stam? I tend to use peril blocking feat so would stam be bad then
i said why
i am not using kinetic deflection rn
spice veldt
I don't run kinetic deflection, so stam is nice
feral verge
i am using kinetic shield
because i am exclusively high peril
i try to never go below 80% peril
i iwll dip to 60% at the most
ornate hamlet
Stamina gets you more pushes, more sprinting and also dodging stops its regen, so it's nice to have some supply of it too
feral verge
i have 2x sprint eff perks, and 1x stam regen perk
ornate hamlet
And if you get caught with your pants down while running deflector and KD, which I have in the past, I want the funny block
feral verge
combined with +3 stam i can pretty much run around everywhere and push/block as needed
spice veldt
I stack Sprint eff and stam Regen because to show off my superior cardio
feral verge
based
idk if it's true
but when i searched for sprint eff. on here, someone mentioned that stacking it has diminishing returns
do you know if that's correct?
spice veldt
hmm, maybe because it stacks multiplicatively like damage resistances?
I've never heard of that
ornate hamlet
My next project is stamina regen and combat ability on vet for deadshot nukes 
feral verge
v*t
north solstice
^
ornate hamlet
feral verge
and maybe add trigger warning
ornate hamlet
wut*lgi moment
feral verge
lol
north solstice
kn*ife ear
winter spire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlUkBoKxY10
So where's the mod with the duck sound ?
feral verge
if only
cloud sequoia
trauma strong
fresh steeple
I still think stam is even nicer with KD
I can just march forward toward a whole wall of gunners if I'm in a melee-heavy team
cloud sequoia
i used up my luck , blasting charged trauma 10+ times
feral verge
okay
ig stam is kinda a shame, but this thing really doesnt need any more cleave/dmg now does it
feral verge
was the other perk sprint efficiency or something?
crit dmg
feral verge
i'm probably going to prefer this, still
feral verge
yeah that's w hat i do with my normal illisi
pictured above
exorcist 4 and unstable 4
cloud sequoia
i think slaughterer gives more leeway for normal match
feral verge
i like unstable because i am always at high peril and i like the guaranteed dmg
it shores up the 1 "weakness" of illisi
single target dmg
atleast for my purposes, i dont need illisi to be better horde clear
i want it to be better single target
unstable does that
cloud sequoia
fair
cyan notch
why not both
cloud sequoia
hollow current
deflector ain't bad imo but too bad you got +15maniac and not literally anything else.
cloud sequoia
slaughterer + unstable
yea im looking for that on deimos
feral verge
fresh steeple
I'll always think y'all are crazy for not having Deflector on your swords. It's the coolest perk
feral verge
why block when i can dodge
cloud sequoia
I'll always think y'all are crazy for not having Deflector on your swords. It's ...
you see the T2 deflector ? thats the only deflector blessing i have in my psyker
not even joking
feral verge
skill issue
fresh steeple
you see the T2 deflector ? thats the only deflector blessing i have in my psyker
T2=T4. ezpz
feral verge
yeah i feel alot more badass dodging like crazy
than blocking bullets with a forcefield
cyan notch
why not both
cloud sequoia
and i already adapted not using deflector
cyan notch
you can dodge while blocking with deflector
feral verge
ik
cloud sequoia
im annoyed if you dodge slide it consumes 2 dodges instead of 1
feral verge
not a force sword problem
spice veldt
Chad infinite dodges force swords
virgin "have 0.85 seconds of downtime" other melees
cloud sequoia
BB problem
spice veldt
Stubbornly avoid using BB
cloud sequoia
let me look cool while popping heads
spice veldt
team getting pushed by bulwarks?
fuck your team; just spam dodge with a force sword
sniper in the distance? spam dodge as your team gets hit because you're baiting sniper shots into your teammates
feral verge
If they removed FS infinite dodge I'd be heartbroken
Deimos is my fav weapon in the game
I've decided
cloud sequoia
i think if you spam crouch you can dodge some bullets coming at you
done it few times but not really convinced
feral verge
I wish mine had slaughterer 4 and had les warp resist
But I don't think it's worth it to chase perfection
Rather save my mats until the next update
So I can quickly and easily craft whatever new weps drop
Think that's in May
warped meadow
I just wanna say, thank you to all the psykers that run the lightning staff, yall the real MVPs
feral verge
Only thank some of them
Cuz many use it wrong
Ppl using it on hordes smh
True MVP surge staff users barely use the staff
They melee everything, and only save the staff for specials and elites
cloud sequoia
i got funny surge player he cant accept exploding he quit the mission
meanwhile me exploding 3 times after overusing trauma
feral verge
Yeah surge staff attracts funnies and noobs
fresh steeple
if you can take less than idk 600~ dmg in your damnation games on avg, you shoul...
give me your rationale here. Convince me to not use a wound curio
because I looked through my logs, and I seem to average around 300 to 600 in most games, and less in smooth ones
cyan notch
just had a surge staff teammate in my last game he went down like at least 7 times and got full killed 3 times
fresh steeple
but I still think wound is just objectively safer and more reasonable to hedge against mistakes or the like
cloud sequoia
preferences
feral verge
I think you've seen my reasoning copypasta already
For this reason: Imo wounds are playing with the intent of failure, in a way. It's better to prevent going down in the first place, either with HP, toughness or even stamina for pushing. With more HP or toughness you are less likely to go down. With 1 extra wound, you need to go down twice in order for it to actually benefit you. Whereas toughness or HP will always be helpful. Typically in those games where you go down twice, the round is doomed anyway. Even on damnation I feel med stations are plentiful enough where + wounds are unnecessary
warped meadow
I never understood how psykers keep blowing themselves up. Like it's super forgiving, you can even get to 100% peril and still have time to fix it
feral verge
Biggest reason? The game is fairly forgiving with medicae and med packs
spice veldt
I'd run wounds if I were playing with a coordinated premade
cloud sequoia
I never understood how psykers keep blowing themselves up. Like it's super forgi...
bloodlust
spice veldt
I blow up sometimes because of muscle memory
fresh steeple
I never understood how psykers keep blowing themselves up. Like it's super forgi...
I've had it happen occasionally with Trauma, though I've only just started using it
because it explodes if you reach 100 and activate, unlike the others
feral verge
Oh no you made a mistake? Most maps have a medicae/med pack nearby
spice veldt
e.g., special when a mutant comes by, but then I don't check my peril and just die
cloud sequoia
if you have 5 stacks of warp flurry , you wont feel peril rising you just explode
spice veldt
only really happens at the start of a day or end
fresh steeple
Biggest reason? The game is fairly forgiving with medicae and med packs
thanks for the answer. Not intending to debate or anything; I just wanted to hear why, and no, I hadn't seen the "copypasta" before
warped meadow
I pretty much just look at my peril most of the time and peripheral fire the surge staff since it pretty much auto aims lol
spice veldt
I try to devote only as much attention as I need to my peril so that I can deal with other threats
cloud sequoia
trauma user prone to explode
spice veldt
though I put myself in situations where my attention is stretched thin
cloud sequoia
gambling peril quell on kill rng
cloud sequoia
this is the way 
feral verge
Can't say I've ever blown up . Or taken damage for that matter
Tips: don't take damage
Don't blow up
forest coral
warped meadow
I actually got the untouchable penance unintentionally while playing psyker, was like wait what's this at the end lol
feral verge
If you take any DMG during a game, you should quit. You're throwing at that point
warped meadow
had good oggie buddy I stuck with most of the time, was really nice
feral verge
Even taking toughness damage is unacceptable
Can't say I've ever taken toughness damage
Ever
dreamy wharf
hmmm. should i go with the Savant or the Loner?
blazing oak
So I decided to up the controller sensitivity to 10.0 and start turning
My stomach is turning
ornate hamlet
So I decided to up the controller sensitivity to 10.0 and start turning
Old car drivers when they find out about electric steering
blazing oak
On a side note
crude cape
i hate to be pushy but im loading in and gotta change it now haha, 211113 ok for surge + illisi?
blazing oak
Turning for extended periods no longer ups the sensitivity
feral verge
what feats would you guys use with surge staff + illisi sword?
this si what i got
is
i am a high peril build
blazing oak
FatShark ruined the game by lowering the cap at which I can spin at 1.0 sensitivity
feral verge
is 211113 bad?
you should be running quietitude
its really too good to pass up
after the peril quelling buffs
for nearly every build its gonna be the best choice in that column
in that screenshot, for some reason i have AB equipped. it;s supposed to be KB
crude cape
ya i do like the fast BB perk personally
crude cape
no wildfire?
feral verge
With a lot of success
cloud sequoia
312213 then
feral verge
Wildfire is pretty bad
crude cape
also im a big fan of kinetic deflection, thats ok over the other perk right?
seems like the most optional one
feral verge
also im a big fan of kinetic deflection, thats ok over the other perk right?
I play at high peril
Which means I get less benefit from kinetic deflection
spice veldt
that's fine; the lvl 20 perks are mostly left up to personal preference rather than being build-specific
feral verge
And way more benefit from kinetic shield
crude cape
what melee weapon do you guys like then with purgatis
i feel like its blaze sword
or the other new single target oen
feral verge
i feel like its blaze sword
All force swords are blaze swords I think
The real names are obscurus (the og sword)
crude cape
i also miss the fast brain burst to deal with snipers etc when i run purgatis, do you just leave them to vets?
feral verge
Deimos, the single target
crude cape
All force swords are blaze swords I think
ah my bad
feral verge
Illisi, the horde sword
crude cape
i mean the og one
crude cape
i didnt notice much difference between deimos and obscurus personally
feral verge
So there's no reason to use obscurus
Deimos can 1 shot muties
With a heavy attack to the head
No special charge up needed
Deimos has way higher DPS
I use Deimos in my main (purga) build
Deimos can also dodge further than obscurus
bitter escarp
Deimos mobility is hard to leave
bitter escarp
The damage table is also pretty stupid
Pretty much the same damage on the heavies barring Carapace
And even then it's good enough that you just ignore the special
dawn warren
is gunner damage resistance (curio) still only applying to stalkers?
feral verge
It applies to gunners
Scab gunners, Dreg gunners and reapers
Nothing else
Doesn't apply to shooters
cloud sequoia
is gunner damage resistance (curio) still only applying to stalkers?
Only to elite gunner
naive junco
prob only worth on psyk cuz of fast recharge.
feral verge
If you run kinetic deflection, stamina insnt as important
cloud sequoia
prob only worth on psyk cuz of fast recharge.
Or zealots
ruby plover
zealot aint need no stam curio
sour jetty
@feral topaz this
feral topaz
<@181159646218682370> this
Don't have Ghost on it, Don't have good stats on it, most occasions I need something that works better long range. Cool that you can do this tho
sour jetty
Don't have Ghost on it, Don't have good stats on it, most occasions I need somet...
the crit makes it work long range since u dont lose much damage. and the crit can pen armor
north cradle
what feats would you guys use with surge staff + illisi sword?
I'd only use Warp Absorption with Illisi if you're also packing either Trauma or Voidstrike
hollow current
alright, when the FUCK are they going to make it so sustained fire works on Trauma's secondary. Every time I look at this I wish it was rending shockwave.
crude cape
How good are these blessings on a purgatus staff?
should i rebless one for Terrifying Barrage?
hollow current
I think Ideal? Don't put terrifying on it I think. Warp nexus 4 whenever you find it so you can crit more often I think is the strat.
I'm pretty sure purg already makes everything dive into cover so terrifying barrage is a bit redundant and warp flurry is great. Nexus 4 would probably be more ideal than flurry 4 for that staff to.
hollow current
yeah here's a resident purge user
feral verge
Those blessings you have in right now are perfect
crude cape
oh really, i thought i remembered it being S tier on purg staff at one point
in theory it sounds good
thanks
feral verge
Those blessings are considered Bis (best in slot)
crude cape
Those blessings you have in right now are perfect
oh dope
can they be a higher level?
is there a "lvl 4"
hollow current
I think it's a joke of a blessing in general. terrifying barrage.
crude cape
or are mine max?
hollow current
And yes, there's a 4
spice veldt
flurry and nexus have t4 versions
hollow current
I think nexus 4 is the move whenever you find it.
feral verge
oh really, i thought i remembered it being S tier on purg staff at one point
That's was probably before we knew that purga already suppresses enemies
crude cape
i can upgracde one to 4, but not the other right?
hollow current
more crits mean more double soul blaze stacks or something.
crude cape
ok
hollow current
faster kill
feral verge
Don't upgrade warp flurry to 4
crude cape
thing is, this staff is 332 base stats
which is bad
so maybe i dont upgrade
use it for now
feral verge
Because warp nexus is more DMG
feral verge
You can use it, and upgrade it
It's only going to cost 100 plasteel to swap warp nexus 4 in, once you get it
But yeah ideally you want a higher level staff
hollow current
I think burn and radius are the only real important stats.
crude cape
agaiun
cloud sequoia
alright, when the FUCK are they going to make it so sustained fire works on Trau...
it works
feral verge
You want burn and cloud radius to be as high as possible
hollow current
More resistance is always welcome tho
cloud sequoia
only on primary fire
feral verge
You want burn to be 76% or higher
crude cape
like once i 'earn blessing' is it permanently unlocked, and i can use it over and over
or they're consumed?
hollow current
permanent
crude cape
ohh cool
feral verge
Permanent
hollow current
cross characters too
feral verge
The staff types do not share blessings however
You cannot put a purga warp flurry onto a trauma staff
You need to find a trauma staff warp flurry separately
However, all force swords share the same blessings
spice veldt
you'll need to be careful about which weapons belong to the same family
e.g., all of our currently existing staffs do not belong to the same family; thus they do not share blessings
crude cape
ok so use this one for now... and keep rolling white ones until i get a 375 or better base, don't accept anything less bc i have a perfect blessing one already
Roll it up to blue until one gets lucky and gets Warp flurry or Nexus, then if it does, upgrade it and re-bless on the other.
Is that basically my best plan to get a better staff? Sorry im making sure i understand all the new crafting stuff i haven't played in a bit
feral verge
ok so use this one for now... and keep rolling white ones until i get a 375 or b...
You do not need to get a 375+ staff
hollow current
I think purga is one of the more forgiving staves so long as you get the 15 burn stacks
cloud sequoia
ok so use this one for now... and keep rolling white ones until i get a 375 or b...
if you have 500K, you can try rolling brunt slot machine
feral verge
You can use a 350 staff if all of the stats are in the right place
hollow current
which mankar said at 76
crude cape
ah ok
feral verge
It's just more likely at 365+ all the stats will be in the right place
feral verge
Cloud radius doesn't have to be a specific number
You just want it to be as high as possible
Increases range
80% is the ideal obviously
But if it's at 70%, but all the other stats are good, it's okayy
feral verge
Np sibling
spice veldt
TAxe in my melk shop with mad cardio
hollow current
Does it have all or nothing on it too?
feral verge
The cardiaxe
crude cape
ok.. now what am i looking for on a Deimos sword? High first target, 75% damage, and good finesse and mobility too, or decent right?
What blessings, Deflector i know is good but optional, I do like it, but whats the other blessing?
spice veldt
the older brother to axe-sking questions
feral verge
ok.. now what am i looking for on a Deimos sword? High first target, 75% damage,...
This pretty much
Warp resist is the dump stat
In some of the best builds, you want warp resist to be low
feral verge
ok.. now what am i looking for on a Deimos sword? High first target, 75% damage,...
Slaughterer is the go-to blessing for force swords
crude cape
ohh
feral verge
Unstable power is for if you like to play at high peril
crude cape
gotcha
feral verge
The most optimal high damage combo is slaughterer+ unstable power
dusk sierra
anyone use da laspistol?
dusk sierra
Slaughterer is the go-to blessing for force swords
even Demios?
feral verge
what is slaughterer?
You get 15% more power per kill for 3 seconds, stacking 5x
With slaughterer t4
crude cape
oh nice
dusk sierra
doing my daily considerations
dusk sierra
worth nabbing
feral verge
doing my daily considerations
Perks are bad
dusk sierra
does the meme autopistol soulblaze build still work
feral verge
Everything dies before it can be set on fire, really
hollow current
I look at this screen and a deimos that does 750+ is worthy imo.
dusk sierra
shit is hilarious
blazing oak
I’m not usually one to say “rng screwed us” but when a plague Ogryn spawns on the team that I’m trying to rescue, when they are right next to a ledge of no return, I feel targeted
hollow current
Maniac's definitely gonna be your pick me perk.
spice veldt
relay station?
blazing oak
Forge
spice veldt
oh that respawn right next to the closet
spice veldt
ye
blazing oak
spice veldt
the one where poxbursters will clean off half of your team's hp after they just healed
feral verge
Why didn't you just kill the plogryn and rez everyone?
blazing oak
Dogs
feral verge
Why didn't you just kill the dogs and kill the plogryn and rez everyone
blazing oak
Bombers
feral verge
Why didn't you just kill the bombers and the dogs and the plogryn and rez everyone
blazing oak
Bc I’m shit and should Kill self
feral verge
No, I love you
blazing oak
hollow current
Why didn't you just kill the bombers and the dogs and the plogryn and rez everyo...
this is why the npc's keep telling us to prove ourselves
feral verge
Even if you suck and are bad at the game
crude cape
ok so in total, am i strong enough for t5 missions, or stick to t4? This is the sword im using while i wait for a good deimos and my full setup CURIOS ARE: %hp %hp %toughness, +block efficiency also.
crude cape
oh no
feral verge
It's going to severely impact your gameplay
blazing oak
Booo!
feral verge
Idk I'm just being dumb
hollow current
I love confusing people with the stave skins.
feral verge
ok so in total, am i strong enough for t5 missions, or stick to t4? This is the ...
So long as you have good skill/game sense, you can clear regular t5 games with grey items
crude cape
i cant SS the weapon skin screen lol
feral verge
You don't need godroll items
hollow current
using surge on voidstrike
feral verge
Just game sense and some skill
crude cape
bc t4 sometimes still hard
hollow current
if you can clear heresy consistently then move onto damnation
feral verge
bc t4 sometimes still hard
Here's the thing
Heresy is harder than damnation
Because the teams on heresy are worse
crude cape
my main issue with the game
hollow current
Heresy is harder than damnation
Unless you have bots.
vagrant frigate
wish i could get the 3stacks that kick the last person at the end of the misison banned or something
crude cape
is enemies just feelinjg like they teleport behind me
vagrant frigate
cant even block them because of how it works
feral verge
Damnation is not always, but usually full of decent players
ornate hamlet
I think that fire ult will cripple your ability to save people from elite groups and maybe that sword is a bit messed, but otherwise nice
vagrant frigate
dedicate 40min to carry 3 noobs
crude cape
sitting staffing BBing
feral verge
You will have a greater amount of high quality teams/players on damnation
Than on heresy
vagrant frigate
and they kick me at the last second
crude cape
and something smacksyou in the back
vagrant frigate
like how is that allowed
hollow current
But yeah Heresy players are a mixed bag where Damnation is generally alright to quickplay into it 4/5 times I'll say.
spice veldt
some map sections have areas where enemies can jump from the top
so it'll feel as if they suddenly appeared there
feral verge
I have been playing damnation since December, and have never looked back. It's a much better experience
spice veldt
so you'll probably want to look up more the next time you play a map
the section right before excise vault's finale is particularly bad on this
entire patrols can be hiding on catwalks above you
feral verge
Snipers can have funny spawn spots
hollow current
I have been playing damnation since December, and have never looked back. It's a...
I went into Heresy for a few runs a day or two ago for some mistake and oh my god, the vets were like turrets.
Sit in one spot and rotate shooting at stuff, tunnel visioned until a horde swamped them and killed them every single time.
feral verge
When I was levelling my zealot in February, I spent the least amount of time in heresy as possible
When I hit level 25 I was out
I could've gone earlier ofc but I didn't want to drag down ppls damnation games
With lower damage
spice veldt
I started my psyker fairly early into the game's lifespan, so I figured I wasn't going to be trolling that much by joining damnation games early
and purgatus
hollow current
Funny enough I think Psyker was the last character I did.
spice veldt
psyker was my second, with veteran being my first
I started my psyker before vets got the infinite cleave nerf to their power sword
hollow current
Bad psykers afraid to get into Melee put me off of the class for the longest time.
feral verge
I did zealot on launch, because I am a saltzpyre main. Didn't like my character's personality. Got to level 7
spice veldt
motherfuckers just step forward a little bit and go back to cover so that I don't have to eat all of the shots
feral verge
Then I tried ogryn, it was ok. Got to level 18
Then I tried psyker, and never looked back
cyan notch
cant even block them because of how it works
open steam overlay click view players then recent games and block there
bitter escarp
Bad psykers afraid to get into Melee put me off of the class for the longest tim...
this shits me off something fierce
even if staff primary
melee sometime jfc
spice veldt
or they're duelling sword psykers
bitter escarp
yeah they can just use it as a stat stick to dodge out of trouble
same with camo expert veterans
hollow current
this shits me off something fierce
If they can keep themselves alive it's annoying but whatever. But early on in the game they died like flies 9/10 times it felt like.
bitter escarp
make melee someone else's problem but also shooting an MGXII into a horde
hollow current
Dueling sword big buffs when
base crit chance 50%. make it happen FS
spice veldt
idk why crit sucks so much in this game
feral verge
Duelies have pretty much no good blessings
The only one really worth considering is shred
bitter escarp
duelling sword with WHC Killing Shot when?
feral verge
Even then it's not amazing
hollow current
Rampage and uncanny strike are okay imo
bitter escarp
Riposte is pretty good
Easy proc, impactful, and reactive on paper but not in a meaningful way
feral verge
Riposte is pretty good
Too hard to proc
hollow current
I ran this before deimos and it was pretty fun.
feral verge
I've dodged many attacks that the game has decided wasn't a successful dodge
It's very finicky
bitter escarp
wasn't my experience, fair enough
feral verge
I ran this before deimos and it was pretty fun.
Yeah I ran I mk4 dueling sword dfor a month
Before the update
Shred 4 and riposte 3
bitter escarp
on paper, crits for days
hollow current
I like the heavies on the 5 to 1hit the flak nerds. 4 was really cool too though.
feral verge
Mk4 has the most important hidden stat in the game
kind jay
thanks melk
hollow current
I never understood the II but people said it was good 🤷♂️
feral verge
100% drip stat
hollow current
That's true.
feral verge
thanks melk
Hmm. Why are you posting vet store????? 🤔
bitter escarp
II is a bit goofy at first but I liked the push attack into heavy
hollow current
Mac V's dodge distance tho. absurd.
spice veldt
aren't we glad that we get recon lasguns like vets do
feral verge
Mac V's dodge distance tho. absurd.
I forgot it had bEtter dodge
Doesn't make sense to me
The Mk4 should have the best
bitter escarp
at the expense of a duplicated stat
hollow current
Deimos crept on it pretty good though. 15% vs 9.5% or something
vagrant frigate
i dont understand t5 players
they all sit in corners
and take 50min
while im rushing and wiping everything
then they scream in souther accents and kick me
bitter escarp
the Mk V blade with a II handguard though
hollow current
while im rushing and wiping everything
My favorite is when you push a side alone and they follow you after you make progress.
feral verge
Mk4 best drip
vagrant frigate
id rather that
feral verge
No contest