psyker-class

[dense ivy]

The TRAGIC nerfing of powersword from SSS tier to a lowly S tier

Truly vets are the most persecuted class

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s-09gNDsPzQ

[weary wasp]

Training wheels are off and some just face planted from the get go

And yet I still see little reason to use any other melle without feeling self-crippled

[dense ivy]

On the plus side I can actually use PS and not feel like a complete asshole now

[half anvil]

any reason to run stam curios on psyker?

[weary wasp]

A lot more vets ran with chain axes yesterday

[dense ivy]

If you want to

[weary wasp]

I run +6 stam for deflector

[dense ivy]

I have PS, a BM axe, and my preferred one of the three is my Shred Chainsword

Vet needs devil claws to be good

And shovels.

[weary wasp]

No good chain sword here but a God tier mk 2 taxe instead

[dense ivy]

He has so few melee options that aren’t actively bad

[weary wasp]

Maybe chaxe if I roll good blessings. Bases collecting dust

[dense ivy]

He cannot make good use of a chain axe Chainsword is just outright better on the guy

[dire smelt]

if you can stomach the whatever horde performance on both chain weapons

[weary wasp]

Mmmh. Probably. Full crit chain sword sounds tempting

[dense ivy]

Psyker can buff his melee a shitton and force the chain axe to actually kill things

Zealot

Zealot

Vet has no boosts to his melee performance except 10% base crit chance

[weary wasp]

Zealot has hsword and evis tho sooo

[dense ivy]

So he is by far the worst hit by a melee weapon having bad bases

[weary wasp]

Well yes but actually no. There are feats for damage and stagger stacks

[dense ivy]

But yeah I have a shred IV +5% crit chance Chainsword with savage sweep

[weary wasp]

Which work great with +power blessings

[dense ivy]

So double cleave and 40% crit chance is decent

I actually have to work for it instead of the game playing itself completely, it’s still obviously not as good as powersword or an antax but it’s good enough to be fun and it’s a general purpose flexible weapon

Horde clear is good because Chainsword actually has decently strong crits both in damage and cleave

[weary wasp]

Before I swapped mass ignore hsword to + damage one any horde would just start ragdolling while all I had to do is either stand in place or hold w. Now they just die

[dense ivy]

Oh yeah

Powersword can get brutal momentum

[weary wasp]

It's pretty useless imao

[dense ivy]

Before this was fucking irrelevant because it meant you were cleaving like 2 extra poxwalkers

[weary wasp]

[dense ivy]

Now, it’s a viable alternative to power cycler if you don’t wanna spam special

[weary wasp]

The 2 only ones left alive

[dense ivy]

And don’t have power cycler because it has a 0.2% chance to drop or some nonsense

[weary wasp]

Think I've got it from melk

[dense ivy]

Rampage brutal momentum is just as good on a powersword as headtaker brutal momentum on an axe

[golden tartan]

Unpowered sword attacks btw are shockingly good

They make the Combat Axe 5 look second class

And that is NOT an exaggeration

At all

[weary wasp]

Still kills trash. Feels weird tho

[golden tartan]

It also has an anti elite moveset as well

The VI does this better than IIi

[dense ivy]

The only real downside vs the Antax is if you’re not using the power attack you don’t have the instant stagger of the axes

[golden tartan]

III is push attack into heavy

VI is push attack into light

[golden tartan]

Yea stagger is deffo not as good

[dense ivy]

Why would you push attack with the III

[golden tartan]

Its still there though

[dense ivy]

The heavy attack does more damage

[golden tartan]

For anti elite

[weary wasp]

Never got a good axe in 700 some hours

[dense ivy]

You don’t need a “good” axe

[golden tartan]

You need an axe with BM

[dense ivy]

You can clear Damnation with brutal momentum 1

[golden tartan]

Thats a good axe

[dense ivy]

I did that

[golden tartan]

Ok

[dense ivy]

(As a zealot)

I wouldn’t recommend that for a vet

[golden tartan]

You can clear damnation wiyh a recon las xD

[weary wasp]

Kinda do if I don't want to shoot myself in the leg by laying down the God rolled toys

[golden tartan]

But BM 2+ is sufficient

[dense ivy]

I’m saying I actually did well kek

[robust relic]

voidstrike surge is worthless right?

[dense ivy]

It wasn’t theory it was at times me clutching runs

[golden tartan]

No

[robust relic]

just popped in my milkman

[golden tartan]

VS is GOAT

:3

[weary wasp]

Depends

[dense ivy]

You need extra crit chance to make surge worth it

[idle bay]

Surge on Void is basically +100% damage on crit.

[golden tartan]

Ohhhh the blessing

[weary wasp]

VS is a bane of corridors

[robust relic]

by VS surge I mean the blessing, 2 shots in crit, to be clear, because of course they named the blessing the same name as another staff

[dense ivy]

Also it seems to overkill way too much

[golden tartan]

I thought u were talking about VS and Surge staves

[dense ivy]

Unless you can get a horde in a hallway your second ball just kills an extra 2-3 guys then goes on

[near wyvern]

BM axe is nice until you realise Slaughterer Illisi clears faster, has infinite dodges and can stagger lock with infinite cleave which makes escorting players carrying objectives trivial.

[weary wasp]

Crits on vs are... Unreliable

[golden tartan]

Its not garbo but like... transfer peril is right there

[robust relic]

yeah I should ahve been more clear in original, gg fat shark

[near wyvern]

Surge blessing is not worth it at the current state

[dense ivy]

Surge SOUNDS amazing in practice it’s not really that good

Though I only ran it like four times

[weary wasp]

Imagine putting +blaze on crit on all the non crit staves. Fatshark.

[dense ivy]

But when it procced

It didn’t do much.

Either because the first ball already killed most things I was aiming at

Or the basic attack just. Missed twice

[golden tartan]

The main thing about Caxe is its a bit like a XII.

Apart from brutal momentum it doesnt really NEED anything. And there isnt anything in particular that seriously buffs it. Best is headtaker.

[idle bay]

Also there a special thing about Illisi.
When Zealot charges ahead of the team - he is not alone and out of coherency anymore - there is a Illlisis Psyker right next to him 🙂

[near wyvern]

And when you work through the numbers you realize why. It's 2x damage on every 5th or 6th shot on average and you have to use nexus for it, where as you could speed up your casting time by 30-40% (including cast animation) and do it forever without having to quell.

[weary wasp]

Im pretty sure it can clear house with double power blessings but it still feels jank

[robust relic]

And oddly you only need like brutal tier 2, sure 3 or 4 is nice but its not really needed

[golden tartan]

It doesnt get the super good power blessings. Just decent ones

[dense ivy]

You only need 1 if you can use push attacks

Or have attack speed buffs

[weary wasp]

Me when a solid 10 370+ chaxes, 13k diamantine and 0 plasteel

[idle bay]

We need an Option to Name our weapons

[olive ember]

Well I had a decent psyker

too bad the zealots were kinda mid

and I died to fucking 10/10 bullshit where I somehow slid and the game went "haha now you are dead" and teleported me onto the side of a railing

[weary wasp]

I had so many connection losses yesterday

[ruby plover]

me when the crusher overhead i dodged 2 full seconds ago zeros my toughness

[olive ember]

smh someones got funny ping

[compact cargo]

shitty servers

[ruby plover]

i also like when i just hit a regular mook midswing with a charged up illi swing

and nothing happens

thats a good one

[vestal raven]

wow deimos is insane just learned about the big poke

nutty

[idle bay]

it simply called The Poke

[vestal raven]

poor mutants

dont even need to charge the damn sword

just die

[feral verge]

I love deimos

I thought I loved illisi at firstn

And I do

But illisi is my side bitch

Deimos is my one true love

Because of mutie poke

[vagrant frigate]

^

[feral verge]

My favorite thing in the game

[vagrant frigate]

my fav is the cruher nuke

w pinning fire

[feral verge]

I want to be charged by muties now

So I can poke them

[vagrant frigate]

boops

@feral verge

[feral verge]

Cracked gun

[river sand]

as long as your ranged is a staff that is not surge (because why would you play surge anyway, that thing sucks). deimos is a brilliant pairing

[feral verge]

Fellow surge hater, I salute you

[vagrant frigate]

i love it when other people use surge (i will never use surge)

makes playing like a schizo easier

[river sand]

deimos just handles the few leftovers that come close to you incredibly fast. and the light 1 heavy 2 combo just makes short work of any specials / elites the only reason to ever use the special on it may be a lonely crusher

[vagrant frigate]

@river sand try lmb (tap rmb) lmb (tap rmb) repeat

makes you poke a lot

instead of doing lmb qq lmb qq lmb qq

[river sand]

nono lmb, hold rmb, block cancel

[vagrant frigate]

and if you do it right, your guy doesnt do any animation of swinging his weapon, things just die lol

thats what i siad

[river sand]

im stupid, i mean tap lmb hold lmb, block cancel

[vagrant frigate]

u dont have to block cancel but ok

[river sand]

u have, otherwise the third attacks will be the diagonal light attack

[vagrant frigate]

o

that can be nice

i still do lmb rmb lmb rmb

most of the time

lmb dash+rmb lmb dash+rmb lmb dash+rmb

[cyan notch]

u guys are talking about 2 different things

[vagrant frigate]

we know

[river sand]

if there are small hordes its heavy -> light -> repeat. that gives you the diagaonal swings only

[vagrant frigate]

i spam lmb in hordes cuz slaughterer 4

i do lmb resets to get 2 stacks

[vestal raven]

surge is a weird staff to me just dont get it tbh like yeah it stuns everything but id rather just kill it lmfao

[vagrant frigate]

then spam lmb

for 1hits

[river sand]

but then you have the poke in that

[spice veldt]

still think it's better to h1

[river sand]

if you spam heavy-> light its only diagonal with cleave

[feral verge]

A dead enemy is a permanently stunned enemy

[vagrant frigate]

idk it dont matter to me

i play for fun

i do all the animation cancels

for fun

idc if its efficient

it looks funy

to kill things without attacking

[river sand]

the "horde combo" doesnt need any cancel

[vagrant frigate]

yeah but the funny poke reset

makes it look like

u kill things by blocking

its funny

soi do it

@fatshark

u can get behind the door u open at the end

its fun to do to randoms

i have weird shit like that on all the maps lol

[river sand]

what i really want is : blazing spirit 4 for surge staff nad lower direct hit dmg for void and much higher explosion damage so you can do damage when an elite stops the ball

[cyan notch]

explosion radius is pretty tiny

[river sand]

its actually pretty big

[vagrant frigate]

shh its a secret

[river sand]

it goes up to 4 metres, that double the sice of trauma epicentre

[spice veldt]

3.6 meters at 80%

trauma has an epicentre radius of 2.3 meters at 80%

[cyan notch]

isnt that the noob damage radius too

[river sand]

yeah so its big

now imagine it does real dmg on that raidus

[cyan notch]

epicentre is like nothing

[spice veldt]

and has a cleave limit so it doesn't matter

(except for the random times where it ignores the cleave limit)

[river sand]

yeah, so void 80% dmg is 454 dmg and the blast dmg is like 23. imagine it gets lowered to like 250 direct and everything in blast radius gets 200. would make it usefull against mixed hordes.

or give all staffs build in soublaze stacking depending on charge percentage

[cyan notch]

i dont think theres a direct vs blast damage in the epicentre

[spice veldt]

maybe with a different version of soulblaze, but built-in soulblaze for every staff seems like a bit of a design limit

[cyan notch]

everything takes full damage direct hit or not in the epicentre

[spice veldt]

since they'd have to balance the other aspects of the staff to compensate for the addition of soulblaze

[river sand]

or imagine a blessing, void cant pierce but the damage comes comple in the blast area

[weary wasp]

There are soulblaze blessings for staffs but they are shit. Their presence alone doesn't mean that all staffs are meant to work with psykinetic

I highly doubt that new subs will be even closely as focused on SB

[vagrant frigate]

oops

1 sec

@river sand this cancel

is fun

[cyan notch]

yeah

maybe we will get synergies with other staves with new subclasses

[rocky cedar]

Yo random question just occurred to me

Do power bonuses increase Ult stagger strength

Or does Ult effectively stow your weapon while it goes off so no weapon blessings can affect it?

[cyan notch]

yea im pretty sure it does

it does affect push strength i mean

[ornate hamlet]

me when the carpal tunnel

[ornate hamlet]

if you have a blessing active on your buffs list, it should be counting

[clear linden]

best perks for purge staff?

[tall temple]

does that mean if you have bunch of power buffs up it pushes more or sth

[rigid sky]

I like 121112 I think

Oh wait, perks

Uh, crit chance should be one

Not sure about what works best for the other

[edgy lotus]

can you suggest a good surge staff build?

[ornate hamlet]

believe i the push is the same, but the threshold to push enemies is lower

like stagger doesnt actually throw enemies further, it just goes nearer the next threshold for them to fall down or something

[cyan notch]

no it does give a stronger stagger

full knockdown on their ass vs stumble back

[brisk wedge]

does anyone know if surge blessing on trauma staff secondary still doesnt work

[late yew]

wtf is with servers

i disconnected twice during 1 mission

[valid marsh]

Do you guys think Bloodthirsty is good?

[severe hare]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/13hsNr8QLpwdwj/Jc7nytpkqAbv?invite=cr-MSxxU2csNzgzMDI0Miw

Got Pick n Mix recently - thought I'd share, happy to finally have it done

[weary wasp]

I'm stuck with +20 flak on purg post nerf. Feels bad

[late yew]

another whiner

it is not even bad against flak

[weary wasp]

That +20 would basically be +40 with rollback

[valid marsh]

I don't notice any nerf to purgatus

[weary wasp]

I would swap it to anything else if I could now. It's not optimal

[late yew]

lol

pathetic

[weary wasp]

[quiet galleon]

worth buying?

[sharp lava]

Question, are blessings 'all characters' where weapons are in common?

i.e. if i get a pinning fire on zealot

does veteran have access to it on say, autopistol (The same weapon i stripped it from)

[still socket]

is it a bug that blessings along the Staves are not shared?

[summer prairie]

Why would they be, the staves are completely different

[lucid olive]

though they can share skins

[thick acorn]

No unfortunately it's just Fatshark making RNG even more unnecessarily long and tedious

[still socket]

even more if u are constantly getting T2 blessings...and wwhen its T3 its terrifying barrage...

[thick acorn]

It's getting annoying... If I get another 'run n gun' on my staff..

I want to try new builds out but can't because RNG is holding back the fun

[still socket]

also the amount og Blessings on staffs in General is a joke

5? srsly?

atleast Psyker doesnt have useless shit traits like Preacher#

[thick acorn]

Yeah they really need to overhaul the blessings on the staff.

Trying a soulblaze build where when I crit with trauma I get +3 stacks of soulblaze on enemy in conjunction with wildfire and ascendant blaze. That at least is fun atm

[stable silo]

@quiet galleon yes very good statage and good blessinf

U might get lucky with the 2nd perk as well

[honest frigate]

This is a great question

Can someone else answer it

Cause i dont know

[cyan notch]

yes

[blazing oak]

Yes as long as it’s in the same weapon family it’s cross characters

My psyker picked up a nice blessing for my veteran on recon lasguns

@sharp lava

@honest frigate

If wondering about weapon families: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/12c2epw/psa_the_latter_part_of_a_weapons_name_indicates/

The only exception is the force staves as far as I know

[fresh reef]

What perks/blessings should I look for on mk5 dueling sword?

[lethal folio]

Uncanny/shred/rampage.

[steel flame]

Staves are all different. They don't share the same family like say recon lasguns so blessings don't share

[spice owl]

You can see what family it belongs too after the roman numeral

Oh, and a question

Is the deflector blessing actaully good?

I seem to just get staggered

[supple skiff]

It’s good for preventing chip damage if your caught out by a couple stray ranges mobs, but not much beyond that

[spice owl]

It is as i suspected

[steel flame]

If you go into stamina and peril deflect you can block several point blank shotguns and a significant amount of time in front of gunners

[supple skiff]

You’ll certainly want to run it with the peril block dear

Feat*

[spice owl]

Aye

[steel flame]

It's one of the best blessings. But it's defensive rather than offensive

I have it on my slaughter illi sword and I can move with impunity through levels with my quicken/quietude build

[spice owl]

At least i k ow what ill be hunting for

Tah

[steel flame]

Peril block efficiency is based on your stamina so using stamina relics can really boost how much you can block with deflector

[spice owl]

ive started running with a +2 stam curio

actually really good

[obtuse moth]

yeah its interesting that the first extra stamina bar is more than 2x better than block efficiency

[west galleon]

quick question, toughness regen was bugged right

is it still? i cant find any patchnotes going into detail there

[idle fog]

Does this still apply with the latest patch?

Also does the build you're talking about need deflector on it?

[cyan moth]

...

leveling up

a new force sword

got this

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-sweating-sweating-bullets-sweating-gif-17507069

[feral verge]

Yes

[feral verge]

Nope

I don't use deflector

I use unstable power and slaughterer or unstable power and exorcist

[muted obsidian]

Using deflector means less killing. Why block when you can brainburst.

[supple skiff]

I find that unless I’m using guns I have no quick way to dispatch shooters that are spread out at range, which is where I usually end up using deflector

[muted obsidian]

I just take cover

[hollow dove]

Recommendations for how to build surge staff?

[supple skiff]

I’ve started experimenting with gun psyker and I hate to admit that I’m enjoying it

[cyan notch]

deflector isnt that big a deal

its not like ur giving up much to take deflector

[muted obsidian]

Fatshark should just make deflector ricochet the bullets back at enemies - then I'd consider using it

[supple skiff]

More or less this. I grave up unstable power on an illsi for deflector. But it has slaughterer so it’s not a huge loss, and honestly with the peril changes I find it hard to keep peril high in melee while using it anyways. The charge takes just a bit too long for me to want to use it in a pitched melee

[cyan notch]

yea

people like to screech about reeee deflector ur blocking the whole game ur bad just dodge lol??!?/

dude its just some nice utility

[stable silo]

executionar slaught is where its at

[supple skiff]

I’d rather block the damage that adds up especially when it comes to limited Medicae.

[summer prairie]

I think deflector is still better utility than some extra power. Just has to be useful in a clutch situation really and it's worth it

[river sand]

nooooooooo ! why not warp res the dump ?

[supple skiff]

Ouch

[river sand]

upped it anyway, 2 shitty perks 2 shitty blessings ....

[supple skiff]

Probably for the best

Had it rolled well it would only hurt more sibling

[ornate hamlet]

[near wyvern]

Classic Hadron. Ruining weapons since 2022.

[quiet galleon]

what should i do with this one, didnt have a decent deimos yet

[feral verge]

swap exorcist for unstable power

weakspot damage for maniac damage

i suggest unstable power because that warp resistance is beautifully low

meaning that you can get to high peril instantly

and receive an instant on demand damage boost

but if you dont like high peril, pick slaughterer

[quiet galleon]

only have unstab 2 versus slaughter 4 so i guess i'll go with that for now

[near wyvern]

Roll weakspot into +maniac, replace either Exorcist or Uncanny Strike with Unstable Power and one shot mutant heads with 2nd heavy.

Which blessing to replace is your choice. Excorsist is quite bad on Deimos, it's a lot better on illisi, on the other hand Uncanny Strike only benefits on Crushers and Mauler heads with the heavies.

I would swap away Exorcist into Unstable Power and then when you get something you prefer more, surrender the Uncanny 4 to Hadron.

[quiet galleon]

thanks fellas

[rare furnace]

got a pswrod with 3 soulblaze and 3 slaughter same damge but no mobilty

[near wyvern]

A power sword with soulblaze 🤔

Perhaps a Force Sword with Blazing Spirit?

[karmic copper]

is there ANY REASON to get this

[feral verge]

no

[near wyvern]

If you like it. Other than that no.

[feral verge]

it's a not-deimos

[karmic copper]

lol

i have ZERO dueling swords

ive never used one, and i have 400hr on psyker only

alrighty thats an easy decision

[feral verge]

i have 520

i used mk4 dueling sword for a month, before new weapons dropped

deimos is better than the duelies in almost every single way

duelies need a serious buff

[karmic copper]

someone yesterday said Recon, and headhunter in general, were great. this is my next question

[feral verge]

recon as seen as a meme weapon

[lucid olive]

roll another?

[feral verge]

yeah

[lucid olive]

thanks hadron

[feral verge]

you really want unstable power and slaughterer on that bad boy

[near wyvern]

They need to make the cleaving Duelling swords to actually cleave and just increase the single target DPS against fleshy targets on all duelling swords. IMO Deimos should be the anti armour choice and duelling swords the fleshy assassins.

[karmic copper]

@feral verge sorry when you say meme, do you mean in a bad or good way right now? ive never really gun psyker, but ive always felt against shooters which is by far my biggest issue, having a high ammo gun would allow me to play differently some times

[feral verge]

bad way

[karmic copper]

damn its stats are so near perfect rolled heh

ok

[near wyvern]

Recon gun goes click click cause you ran out of the little shiny ones.

[karmic copper]

i know SOO little about guns. i have only 1 character. psyker

zero matches with guns used

[feral verge]

shredder auto pistol is considered THE psyker gunbuild

[near wyvern]

Well that's a lie.

[karmic copper]

actually it is

[near wyvern]

Unless you bought a levelled account.

[karmic copper]

i did run 1 match a week ago or so

oh

touche..

it was the.. revolver

are you my wife bud? eyes in the back of your head? jeez

[ornate hamlet]

Lol

[near wyvern]

Shredder is the most powerful gun build any class to my understanding.

[karmic copper]

ive seen zero shredders. i keep seeing it mentioned

[near wyvern]

I am just one with the warp

[cyan notch]

not for ogryn

[leaden thunder]

it is so small and I am too big

[near wyvern]

It's a pea gun for ogryn. They probs can't even pull the tiny trigger.

[river sand]

on vet i prefer bolter

[forest cosmos]

Hi, what weapons should I focus on right now? I just got to level 30.

[uneven drift]

Weapons that you like i guess.

[ornate hamlet]

Your favorite staff or a shredder

[cyan notch]

probably illisi force sword

that kinda lets u do whatever u want

[feral verge]

get a good deimos or illisi force sword up and running

[ornate hamlet]

Tbh yea idk why I only went with ranged get a good sword

[forest cosmos]

I have a deimos right now. I dont think I tryed illisi yet

I got this from the hexagon material seller idk if it's good. but it's a fun weapon 😼

[feral verge]

deimos is amazing

but those blessings and perks are not great for it

[forest cosmos]

What should I get ?

[orchid shadow]

Melk uses.. I.. uh.. right. Hexagon materials. Wtf are they even called?

[stable silo]

MILK MONEY

people will know trust me

[leaden thunder]

melkbux

melkies

[forest cosmos]

scrap money

[safe crystal]

Milkies, if you will

[stable silo]

tiny hexagon melker milkies?

[orchid shadow]

Melkers Golden Hexagons. Sounds like a cereal.

[stable silo]

now with added disappointment

[frail berry]

I think Slaughterer and Unstable Power is typically recommended

[near wyvern]

Ingots

But we just call them melk coins, milk coins, whatever

Fuck that guy

[rigid abyss]

should I reroll Uncanny Strike to Unstable Power or Slaughterer 3 to 4?

[karmic copper]

ahahah just got my first trans shredder

[ornate hamlet]

[karmic copper]

id say with illis, the diff from 62%-75% power after fight started vs how quickly you can get your peril up to and KEEP at 80% during fight, with unstable power, and 15-20% at start of fight

prob unstable

BUT

i love deflector.

🙂

[ornate hamlet]

defs deflector

[rigid abyss]

so reroll Uncanny either way lol

[ornate hamlet]

shit wouldve saved me in a match today with the new dark modifier

cant see shit in atoma

[karmic copper]

good for first shredder or garbo?

[rigid abyss]

yeah, what i really need is a head lamp

[ornate hamlet]

change crit to maniac and raking fire is pretty gimmicky

[karmic copper]

i literally have 1 blessing unlocked, from some blue i had ages ago. which is also blaze away rank 3 lol

i truelly havent had any shredders

[orchid shadow]

If only there was duct tape in the 40k universe. Strap a light to your staff.

[ornate hamlet]

[safe crystal]

You'd need pinning fire on that, instead of raking

[ornate hamlet]

oh yeah, the new modifier shows the actual need for flashlights on all weapons

[karmic copper]

funny after JUST mentioning it 40 minutes ago, after 400 hr, and then i get one next match

@ornate hamlet are you talking about the mod that like.. reduces deflector visual and force sword block visuals etc? someone mentioned that in a game. ive fucked up many times because i cant see. is that a thing? i have ZERO mods.

[orchid shadow]

Oh yeah, it's amazing

Force Blocking no longer fills 3/4 of my screen with the light of a supernova.

[orchid shadow]

But Sterling is talking about the Lights Out modifier. I'd still recommend mods though that reduce visual clutter

[ornate hamlet]

no, the mission modifier

it makes shit really dark and basically its kinda fucked

weapons like the headhunters and laspistol dont have flashlights

[orchid shadow]

I can't wait for them to do a modifier for mutants. It'd be like a whole football team running at you.

[feral verge]

you want unstable power and slaughterer. and maniac and flak/unyielding dmg

[forest cosmos]

ty !

[steep shuttle]

First Target could be better tho

[river sand]

first target couldnt be worse

[ornate hamlet]

be me
do more damage on cleave target

[steel delta]

does anyone else still need the psyker penance for killing a monster with brain bursts? we are currently 2 need 2 more people

[fresh reef]

worth upgrading?

[cyan notch]

yes

[fresh reef]

lol
lmao even

[cyan notch]

damn

[fresh reef]

gonna just roll it to orange to see if it can be redeemed

[cyan notch]

at the very worst u can have flurry with uh some mid stuff

[idle aurora]

Since warp flurry is fixed (at least FS said so in patch notes) would this be the best set up for Surge?

[feral verge]

warp flurry is fixed

[ruby plover]

locked crit damage is a huge L

but aside from that yeah

[feral verge]

yeah crit dmg perk is bad

[idle aurora]

if i would make another one, what should i get

[ruby plover]

flak

[feral verge]

i wouldnt worry too much

because a surge staff is just a stun stick, in the end

[idle aurora]

so +5 crit chance and 20-25 flak?

[feral verge]

a regular grey surge staff is only 10% worse than the best of the best legendary surge staff

as long as it can stun, its good for the job

and all surges can stun, so

dumping resources into making the perfect surge is a big waste imo

unless they buff it someday, but they've given no indication of that

it can be decent in the right hands, but overall it's the worst staff in the game imo

save your mats imo

[orchid shadow]

sad electric trombone noises

Womp bzzt Womp

[idle aurora]

Ye ill roll with this one for now, i personally really like surge because it stuns everything apart from bosses, mutant charges? lol, hounds? lol etc. but needs a team to be more aware and bonk them

[feral verge]

it stuns mutie charges

that's the 1 thing surge has going for it over other staves

(cuz the other staves can stagger too, just not muties)

[fresh reef]

got another similar trauma

come the fuck on Hadron, throw me a bone here

[idle aurora]

ye void strike nukes are really good throws everyone on the floor

[feral verge]

if you got mats to burn, i reccomend burning them on the perfect melee

if you main surge staff, that's imperative

a good melee is more important than the staff itself

i'd try crafting the perfect illisi, if you haven't already

[idle aurora]

current sword for surge build

[feral verge]

get rid of crit dmg

it's a bad perk on everything

[idle aurora]

should i just go for flac damage always?

[fresh reef]

cosmetic set imma be running with void. quite like how it looks all together

[feral verge]

say you do 100 dmg normally. then say when you crit, you do 110 damage. the crit added 10 more points of damage. a 10% crit damage perk is only going to buff the 10 points of crit damage. meaning with that buff, your new total damage is 111 damage...so you only gained 1 point of damage from the crit damage buff

afaik that's how crit dmg works. i could be wrong on the specifics, but i've been on here for months and everyone else says crit dmg is awful

[feral verge]

for most weapons, flak and maniac are universal picks

some other weapons/builds have different use cases

[idle aurora]

good to know

[feral verge]

i'd put unstable power over bloodthirsty, too

t4 unstable power is 20% more power at 80% or higher peril

[subtle linden]

how to brick a staff instantly

[feral verge]

the best illisi in my opinion would have a very low warp resistance stat (to get to high peril quickly by spamming the special charge up)

then unstable power and slaughterer for blessings

and infested/flak and maniac for perks

[idle aurora]

will look out for UP, so far only got lvl1 variant

[feral verge]

yee

just remember the tool tip lies to you

it makes it sound like you're only getting up to 4% power at high peril

but no

it stacks 4x

t3 unstable power is 4% power for each stack (up to 16% power at high peril)

[subtle linden]

ur sword is good until perfection

tbf

roll groaners to like flak

or maniac

[feral verge]

naaah

i'd roll crit damage to flak or maniac

[subtle linden]

his bloodthirsty makes him full benefit

from crit dmg

[feral verge]

crit dmg perk bad

[subtle linden]

in general ya

but his blessing is literally meant for it

[feral verge]

until he takes the blessing off

[subtle linden]

if he rolls it

then sure

but my illisis does not have problems with groaners

[thorny socket]

I got a question for the level 30 psykers

[subtle linden]

[feral verge]

nor does mine

[idle aurora]

ye, at this point i just hunt for perfect rolls, since a got all i wanted on really good but not perfect level

[feral verge]

but more groaner/infected daamge means more damage done in the cleave

[subtle linden]

i rend armor!

[thorny socket]

Does the armory sell versions of the malleus monstorum penance chest at level 30

[subtle linden]

no

[thorny socket]

Ok thank you

[subtle linden]

easy penance tho if u look for lfg

abuse a box or chair

[idle aurora]

nope and no other costumes too, which is stupid tbh

[subtle linden]

and play ring around the chair with ogryn

[feral verge]

uncanny only benefits crushers and maulers

[thorny socket]

Yea I just need to get friends to help kite

Im only level 18 though so idk if im ready for it

[feral verge]

go get a shieldgryn

i'd wait to 30

for kinetic barrage

that will make it faster

[subtle linden]

ye

i really like illisis heavy light spam tho

straight horizontal cleaving

across the headline

[feral verge]

me too

[still socket]

the biggest problem with crit dmg is that u can hardly reach the breakpoint to make it good, because curios dont roll critchance like in vermintide

crit chance itself isnt triggering any shit unlike for preachers

[fresh reef]

man
I keep wanting to think that I could've clutched a horde, with 2 mutants, 3 ragers, and a poxburster, in the dark, with a DH around the best kiting spot

I want to believe so badly that it was skill issue and not entirely bad luck

[near wyvern]

The is Blazing Spirit but the biggest problem with that is stuff dies so fast that it doesn't matter

They need to just make Blazing Spirit on staves apply 1 stack on LMB and 1 to 3 stacks based on RMB charge level. For melee it should be 1 stack per hit for T3, 2 stacks per hit for T4, and crits apply double stacks for both.

[gray kelp]

havent played since december, trauma staff still a meme option or will i not get consumed by the warp after charging it for a microsecond now

[leaden thunder]

tis good now

[gray kelp]

was thinking stabby force sword + trauma could be a good combo

[rich rose]

What modifiers are we currently using on purg staff?

[ruby plover]

why were we arguing for crit damage

bloodthirsty doesnt matter

crit damage is always trash

[near wyvern]

Trauma is the do it all staff. You just want one with high charge rate and explosion radius.

The only enemy you can't deal with it is mutants but you can one shot them with Deimos 2nd heavy without having to dodge

[near wyvern]

It is my go to setup

[summer prairie]

Some more dodge slide quelling, it's a fun mechanic https://streamable.com/xmg10z

[near wyvern]

@gray kelp

https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10

[near wyvern]

Fun but a bit unnecessary really. You should find cover and fight back before you have the need for that 😅

[summer prairie]

You should yes, but you can engage a bit more aggressively when you know you can handle any number of shooters (from one direction anyway). Dodge slide quelling is useful even if you don't run deflector though

usually the issue is shooters being all over though

[thorny socket]

What is the dueling sword good for

[leaden thunder]

[lethal folio]

blocking.

[spice veldt]

and mobility; but not much other than that

[feral verge]

the new deimos force sword has essentially made the duelies pointless

[feral verge]

I DID IT

I FUCKING DID IT

FUCKING FINALLY

I DID IT

@spice veldt

IN YOUR FACE

I HAVE 4% MORE POWER

FUCK YOU

[spice veldt]

THIS CANNOT BE

[leaden thunder]

[supple skiff]

there an arms race going on in here lmao

[feral verge]

an arms race going on for over a month

and over 50k plasteel

[spice veldt]

well, it's not much of a race when I've won long ago 😎

shame that I can no longer insult mankar as mr t3 unstable

[feral verge]

just so i could get 4% more power on these bad boys

this will change everything, just you see

everything iwll die in 1 hit, i will never take damage again and rounds on avg will take 5 or so minutes to clear

[olive ember]

Look at that 71% dmg roll lmao

4% more damage gone

Oh ewww you taking the trait off

[feral verge]

what 71% dmg roll

illisi has 80 dmg, deimos has 79

stay mad. stay bad

oh

you're referring to that sword i psoted that rolled unstable 4

that's a junk sword

made entirely for the purpose of t4 farming

and it came through

[supple skiff]

will have to link mine later, has t4 slaughter and unstable

[feral verge]

noice

idc about t4 slaughterer as much

i wanted unstable cuz i can directly control that

but if i got t4 slaughterer i obvi would love it

[spice veldt]

hmm so you don't have t4 slaughterer

ok mr t3 slaughterer

[feral verge]

i

i'm

[lunar hollow]

ive got t4 slaughterer on an obscurus but i dont have the strength to earn blessing on it

[feral verge]

okay time to spend 50k more plasteel

[lunar hollow]

cuz the swapped blessing is unstable power

and i wanna get t4 unstable and slaught on it

[supple skiff]

I find it difficult to stay at high peril with the swords new with the peril change

[feral verge]

well hey

it's an obscurus...

a good sword.. but not as good as illisi or deimos...

[lunar hollow]

it was my first good force sword

[feral verge]

so oyu wont be losing too much

[hollow spindle]

First Voidstrike I crafted since hitting 30 just now, good or bad?

[supple skiff]

like you can spam the charge but when you're in the shit, idk find it takes a bit too long and I usually take a hit

[feral verge]

that's great my dude

[spice veldt]

that's pretty much a god roll

[feral verge]

change warp nexus to transfer peril

[supple skiff]

holy fuck thats a nice staff

[feral verge]

and unyielding to unarmored

[hollow spindle]

I'll need to craft more then

[dense ivy]

Exorcist is really anti synergy with Illisi ya know

[hollow spindle]

I dont have any blessings on my psyker 😄

[dense ivy]

How frustrating

[feral verge]

not for me

i like it with low warp resist

[feral verge]

because of toughness regen with quietitude

i get toughness back instantly with lmb spam

[spice veldt]

not exactly anti-synergy because Exorcist isn't as good as you'd think

[feral verge]

it lets me play like a zealot

[spice veldt]

Exorcist can only proc once per swing, no matter how many weakspot hits you cleave in a swing

[feral verge]

yee ik

[spice veldt]

ye just responding to DMB

[hollow spindle]

Also crafted this Illisi but I guess I missed the good blessing cant remember what it was called

[feral verge]

ooh

[dense ivy]

It's more that

I want to be at high peril

[feral verge]

slaughterer is great

precog is bad

[dense ivy]

Because 49% bonus power

[hollow spindle]

ok

[feral verge]

put unstable pwoer over precog

[hollow spindle]

ok

[spice veldt]

yes, and there is no way that Exorcist is quelling enough to bring you down as long as you activate the special

[feral verge]

(precog is really bad and should always be removed on any weapon)

[spice veldt]

because remember that Exorcist can only proc on at the very least the second swing, and it can only proc once per swing

[feral verge]

so do i

[hollow spindle]

How about the perks?

[spice veldt]

so unless you're light-spamming, exorcist shouldn't quell a significant amount

[feral verge]

with low warp resist, i can instanlly go back up to high peril

[dense ivy]

Superiority is ok

[feral verge]

i only play at 80% peril

[dense ivy]

Sometimes

[feral verge]

60% at the lowest

[feral verge]

remove unyielding for maniac

[dense ivy]

Like most of the time it's irrelevant but if you get like 5 shotgunners or ragers you're suddenly swole

If it last 10 seconds it would be better imo

And had no stacks, just, elite kill = 20% power for 10 seconds, would be good

[hollow spindle]

ok

[spice veldt]

and even more of a shame that it's only elites and not including specials

[supple skiff]

if weapon blessings were still global superiority would be fun

[spice veldt]

I need my hi10 difficulty so that every enemy is an elite

[supple skiff]

miss the days of slaughterer empowering BB

[feral verge]

why am i seeing devil claw psykers

in a post illisi world

[dense ivy]

Riposte is such a meme too

[spice veldt]

because it's the very best melee weapon

[dense ivy]

Like it's actually kind of ok because it is a lot of crit if you wanna dodgespam

[spice veldt]

the ability to inflict psychic damage to your teammates

very powerful

[lunar hollow]

riposte on dueling sword should give 100% power for 2 seconds on dodge

[dense ivy]

Executor is basically the good version of Superiority

[magic burrow]

the best melee is the knife, but only when you exclusively use the special attack to punch people so hard their head explodes

[dense ivy]

Force swords either have really good blessings or really bad ones

[spice veldt]

I suppose Executor has the actual niche of single-target

[dense ivy]

Sort of yeah

You can just spam lights into a horde

[heady swan]

So which force sword is the horde clear one?

I forgor

[supple skiff]

illsi

[spice veldt]

Illisi MKV

[heady swan]

Gotcha.

[dense ivy]

It's not ideal but you can proc it off secondary targets

[spice veldt]

I would not light-spam just for Executor

lights having 2 cleave compared to heavies having 6

and having a worse cleave distribution

[dense ivy]

Well that's why you stack a shitload of power kek

Slaughterer is just the best though because it doesn't have annoying conditionals

AND gives you more power

[supple skiff]

only a matter of time before they nerf it

[dense ivy]

I'd rather they just buff these useless blessings

[spice veldt]

hopefully they'll work away at it at a glacial pace

[dense ivy]

Nerfing slaughterer will just make it weaker

[spice veldt]

I'd like for them to nerf slaughterer, hsword's headtaker, and buff the other ones

[dense ivy]

It won't make these shit blessings worth using

Yeah but they won't do that lol

[spice veldt]

ehhhhhhh

[dense ivy]

You're just going to get nerfed slaughterer because people complain about it

[leaden thunder]

hmm

[spice veldt]

they did buff blessings in a patch

[dense ivy]

Nobody is asking for them to buff Executor

[spice veldt]

so it is something that they have demonstrated

[dense ivy]

Or Unstable Power

Or Blazing Spirit

Most people don't even know those blessings exist

[spice veldt]

well, half of that is because they haven't played too long

I only got Blazing spirit on my force swords about 400-ish hours in

[dense ivy]

I keep getting blazing spirit 3

It's appeared on literally every force sword I've crafted

[supple skiff]

Have it t4 on an obscurus

[dense ivy]

[supple skiff]

talk about a useless blessing

[spice veldt]

though I suppose half of my hours was also before the blessing of the omnisah

[supple skiff]

make it an aoe dot spread and It could be worth using, maybe, idk

[dense ivy]

I actually have a shred riposte force sword lul

[steel flame]

I mean wildfire does that but you kill almost everything on crit so it won't even trigger most of the time

One day Spirit will be good

[dense ivy]

No it wont.

Recon lasgun has a better chance of being good before that happens

[supple skiff]

reworks a blessing to spread a burn

[leaden thunder]

or just

[supple skiff]

nerfs burn on flak next patch

[leaden thunder]

double the burn it applies

and buff wildfire

[orchid shadow]

They need to give Blazing to the Surge staff. Heck give the Surge blessing to the Surge staff!

[leaden thunder]

also that

surge needs to have blazing spirit

i'd actually use it if it did

[feral verge]

same

id heavily consider using it

[rose dagger]

Deflect pretty nice for gunner psyker with feat that makes block build peril

Quietude being best on gun psyker feels kinda wrong tho, other lvl 5 feats may need buff/change

[near wyvern]

You don't really need to buff wildfire. Just remove the hidden hard cap of 4 stacks and fix fire not spreading on 1 stack.

That is, if enemy with 10 stacks dies and the only enemy next to it has 4 stacks, the remaining enemy should get to 8 stacks. At the current state only the duration on the 4 stack target would be reset and not even that if it had 5 or more stacks.

[leaden thunder]

that's what I mean by buff

[near wyvern]

That ain't buff, that's bug fixing

To match the description

[leaden thunder]

fair enough

[rose dagger]

not sure id call something not working as described a bug, given FS's history of bad descriptions

[hollow spindle]

This is the first class where hadron didn't completely shit in my cheerios while I crafted my first stuff

[summer prairie]

the description is the bug

[hollow spindle]

I am pleased.

[supple skiff]

the old trauma damage table

[near wyvern]

I'd be happy if they combined warp absorption with essence harvest and then made a new lvl 5 which would give toughness regen per 5 based on either number of targets under soulblaze or the highest stack count of soulblaze currently on a target.

[near wyvern]

They did acknowledge my bug report.

Then make mind in motion baseline and replace it with a feat that gives x% chance on any attack to apply Soulblaze, scaling with fire rate on guns.

[drowsy slate]

Surge on surge staff would be crazy good I would love it

[heady swan]

Does the Illisi have the best light spam?

[spice veldt]

well, I wouldn't call it the best, but it does have all horizontals/diagonals

but I would say that the obscurus has the worst because of the 2nd light

[twin charm]

does Illisi's charge atk count as a wrap attack?

[leaden thunder]

it do

[spice veldt]

it used to not, but they fixed it with the recent patch

[twin charm]

so it can benifit Warp Absorbtion ?

[spice veldt]

mhm

[weary palm]

popping in to showcase this hellspawn

[feral verge]

horrible

we did it boys

ive functionally beaten the game

[weary palm]

deimos the goat

just realized i haven't rolled my perks lmao

[feral verge]

@near wyvern no 1 shot

unstable power 4

i gained 107pts of damage

compared to unstable power 3

[gray kelp]

btw, best way to farm plasteel? getting bottlenecked by it hardcore

[feral verge]

low intensity damnation, or regular damnation when low intens is unavailable

[drowsy slate]

Why isn’t unstable power like 50% or at least 20 🤷does the 5% do anything?

[spice veldt]

damnation gives 805 plasteel iirc

[feral verge]

unstable power stacks 4 times

t4 unstable power is 20% power

[spice veldt]

it's fatshark description-itis back at it again

[feral verge]

the tool tip for it is bad

[gray kelp]

oh nice, was doing heresy as I wasnt sure if pubs were still struggling super hard with damnation or not

[spice veldt]

you get a stack per 20/40/60/80% peril

[drowsy slate]

Oh 😅

[feral verge]

heresy is harder than damnation

[potent glade]

you can always get a group of people on discord together too it will probably make it easier to farm on damnation

[spice veldt]

depends

[feral verge]

because the players tend to be really bad

[spice veldt]

low intensity damnation is pretty easy

[feral verge]

heresy is full of shit players trying to get out of malice, players doing penances ect.

[gray kelp]

I figured, i just remember people being really bad at the games launch lol

havent played since dec

[feral verge]

welcome back

damnation is easier

and the players are more chill

(most of the time)

shieldgryn is bad btw

if i see one, i leave the lobby lmao

[spice veldt]

i stick with the game cuz that means more kills for me

[feral verge]

i want to win

[spice veldt]

same, but I want to win with the highest damage

[feral verge]

shieldgryn lowers win chance by atleast 20%

[vestal rose]

last shieldgryn I met got real mad at us for not sitting behind his shield (damnation high intensity)
kept leaving and rejoining cause no-one else was playing at 3am, then kept trying to get himself downed
was real mad at us, claimed to have 1000 hours in the game and we were all bad. was pretty great

[feral verge]

typical shieldgryn behavior

[sand quest]

Why FS Q_Q (Is this worth upgrading?)

[potent glade]

damage is low but I would still use it

if you can roll good damage perks and slaughterer it should be good

[sand quest]

This is my current one... that damned Uncanny strike is so irritating

so, im looking for one that has slaughterer or the one that gives power based on peril lvl

[potent glade]

that ones not bad at all but I prefer slaughterer and deflector

[sand quest]

yeah :c

[hollow spindle]

My face when I hit lv30 and rolled T4 slaughterer first craft

[spice veldt]

damn mankar got beaten by a fresh lvl30

[hollow spindle]

But I ain't got any blessings in store since fresh 30

so I gotta farm

[orchid shadow]

Someone is gonna reach through the screen and throttle you if you get Unstable 4 next.

[hollow spindle]

lol I tried getting some staff blessings but no luck

Got Run n Gun T3 ":D"

Mind you, I prolly had my luckiest crafts on this class

most likely a staff I will never replace

once i get the other blessing for it

unstable 4 i guess it is what i need

umm no damn

thats for the sword

[agile garden]

Wildfire or Warp Battery for Purgatus staff build?

The latest nerf to burn hit soulblaze really hard. Now 4 stacks of soulblaze on horde won't kill them, you need 6 stacks. So what do you guys think, Wildfire or Warp Battery

[leaden thunder]

warp battery

also

it only effected flak

[feral verge]

Warp battery every time

[drowsy slate]

What is meta staff and blessings atm?

[tulip viper]

talking about a purgatus staff build, I feel like it's handiest to have extra damage to infested and unarmored enemies (basically the hordes), since you're flaming away. Should I switch out the 20% extra flak damage to unarmored on this staff? 🤔

[spice veldt]

if you really want to spec into hordeclear for your purg, but they usually die soon enough

[tulip viper]

I should probably replace that run n gun first then

[olive ember]

"only effected flak"

[orchid nacelle]

who up psyking they psykinetic

[olive ember]

aka the most important and prevalent armor type in the game

feelsbadman

[leaden thunder]

it was in relation to the "on a horde"

which a lot of hordes aren't flak

[olive ember]

oh yeah

except for the bruisers

kek

[leaden thunder]

typically those aren't the large part of the horde tbf

[olive ember]

typically

until they spawn like 12 of em behind you

because fuck you

[spice veldt]

though flak bruisers have less health than their dreg bruisers so it's whatever

[gray kelp]

for whoever said damnation is easier than heresy you were right, it feels good to play with people who have better hand eye coordination than middle aged gamer dads

[humble star]

Ironically, old farts are some of the best teammates you can get

non-toxic, not stupid for the most part. Know teamwork

[mortal crest]

Is Warp Nexus IV worth throwing 2795 Melk moners at?

Or nah

[feral verge]

what staff

[hollow current]

for surge, maybe others I'd say no.

[mortal crest]

It is Surge.

[hollow current]

If you don't use the staff often though and you can't buy anything else afterwards maybe hold.

But not a bad purchase.

[lilac tapir]

Illisi + Shredder Autopistol build is super fun I must say! Also playing in 3rd person view with max camera distance is definitely a cool experience 🙂

(this was heresy)

[mortal crest]

My absolute favorite combination is Trauma + Illisi.

[ember sentinel]

how do you get deimos to one shot mutants with H2? I can come really close but without max peril(which is hard to set up) i cant get it. Do i need damage to mutants as a perk?

deimos for reference

or i swapped deflector for slaughter 3

guess this is a little old

and carapace for flak

[ember sentinel]

trauma illsi very fun

[mortal crest]

Slaughterer is probably the answer.

[ember sentinel]

ah so he needs to be charging when i have my stacks up

[mortal crest]

That's what I'd figure. Can't really think of another way to do it.

[ember sentinel]

i was thinking maybe i need higher finesse on the sword which id be sad about cause idk if i get a roll as good as that one with better finesse

[lilac tapir]

there was a video posted here a while ago with 1-shot mutants compilation, so def possible

[feral verge]

its not

you dont need slaughterer at all

[feral verge]

you have to hit it in the head

[hollow current]

+25 Maniac and warp unleashed at high peril. You can also get +specialist damage for the second perk.

[ember sentinel]

even hitting it in the head i do like 90% of its HP

[feral verge]

unstable power helps alot too

warp battery too

[lunar hollow]

alright psyker chat ive got the illisi and autopistol ive been chasing for so long

what feats do i run with it

[hollow current]

Oh yeah I always assume 4-6 stacks up on average with warp bat.

[ember sentinel]

oh your right i totally forgot to get my 6 warp charges before i tested lol

im dumb

[feral verge]

you should only need maybe 2

atleast

ive done it with 2 im pretty sure

my build

i can 1 shot them all day

i could do it even when i had unstable power 3

[ember sentinel]

ok thats the same build as me

[feral verge]

the b reakpoint for it isnt too hard

[ember sentinel]

although your blessings are t4

[feral verge]

dont need t4 unstable power, as i said

[ember sentinel]

good to see that you also get the glitch for cosmetics

[feral verge]

what glitch

im using a skin

[ember sentinel]

your demios looks like the illsi

red skin

[feral verge]

the red waste skin gives it the illisi model

[leaden thunder]

^

[ember sentinel]

OH

i did not see that

does the other one do it too?

forget the name

[spice veldt]

f obscurus

[ember sentinel]

silver camo looking one

[spice veldt]

oh the blue one?

[feral verge]

yes it does

[spice veldt]

since the blaze force sword skins in the docket shop are currently only for the illisi

[ember sentinel]

i see

i assumed it was for all force swords

[spice veldt]

oh oops i meant that they only have the illisi's model

[feral verge]

yee

illisi model was in the game prior to it's release

you could make your obscurus look like an illisi

before we even knew it existed

this is the most cracked weapon i own

and it doesnt even have slaughterer on it

i think a single stack of slaughterer could make it 1 shot muties

[ember sentinel]

ok you were right 2 charges and i one shot

[ember sentinel]

damn

my illsi is pretty good but i dont think its that good

[feral verge]

it's perfect for me

i dont need slaughterer

i like exorcist for insane toughness regen with quietitude

i play like a flamer zealot with this build

[low parrot]

Isn't Exorcist doing the opposite of what you want

[feral verge]

you would think

[feral verge]

but no

becasue illisi can charge up so fast

and the low peril resist

i can get to max peril in 3 charge ups

so its an endless toughness battery

whilst doing insane damage

[low parrot]

Literally about to override a T4 perk with a T1 because this game is really balanced

[ember sentinel]

i was running exorcist before i got a good slaughterer

[ember sentinel]

its nice

[low parrot]

T1 slaughterer is all I have

[feral verge]

i would only consider exorcist t4

because its 1 for 1 with quietitude

[low parrot]

Sounds pretty cool

[delicate stratus]

Infernus isn't worth it right

[ember sentinel]

quietitude my beloved

[feral verge]

feels weird to have nothing to farm for again

i will now stockpile mats for the next update

[ember sentinel]

that illsi/deimos i have is my best weapon or this purge staff

[low parrot]

Do you guys prefer toughness or hp

[feral verge]

hp

[river sand]

on a deimos with unfortunately locked deflector, would you go unstable or slaugtherer, paired with void / trauma

[feral verge]

hp because grimoires, bursters ect.

[feral verge]

how high is your warp resist

if its high, slaughterer

if its low, unstable power

[ember sentinel]

i use 2 HP quiros and one toughness, and 2 of them have toughness regen

so overall HP

[feral verge]

i consider around warp resist 60% to be low

i have 2x hp, and 1 3 stam curio

all with 30% toughness regen

[ember sentinel]

that quite good lol

i only haveone 30

[feral verge]

my best setup

if i had kinetic deflection on, i'd use 3x hp

[ember sentinel]

my other is 22 or w/e t3 is

[feral verge]

with my 3x hp curios i have 261 hp

267 is the max possible

with the stam curio thou my hp is 224

[spice veldt]

I prefer toughness since ranged enemies are more annoying

[feral verge]

differing strategy than mine

thus, wrong.

[ember sentinel]

toughness is very nice

[feral verge]

i have many toughness curios stored away

i am tempted to try them, with kinetic shield

[ember sentinel]

when they span 60 shooters in the back of the room

[feral verge]

in theory, i'd be like a vet

[ember sentinel]

just take autopistol and you will be

well not quite vet with autopistol is ludicrous

[heady swan]

So whats the godroll Illisi?

[lunar hollow]

what level 30 feat works best with autopistol?

[feral verge]

pretty much this