I think of the three it's by far the most dependent on your teammates playing to enable it
#psyker-class
worn bolt
true, lowest damage but highest potential imo
fierce sinew
or a targeting change like what they're trying to do for hammer
worn bolt
full charged attacks tho still do massive damage, especially to carapace
olive ember
they need to buff damage against dregs
increase target cap
and then go from tehre
its a weird thing where its hard CC makes it weird to balance imo cuz it shouldn't horde clear as well as like a trauma or voidstrike
fierce sinew
if you were guaranteed to fuck up 5 elites/specials if there are any in range (maybe with extra priority for disablers and then armor) it would be better
olive ember
but it also shouldn't just be completely shit when more than 10 enemies show up
fierce sinew
but it really should be more than 5
olive ember
In all honesty I think 10 targets + it actually does damage to not flak and carapace
worn bolt
if you were guaranteed to fuck up 5 elites/specials if there are any in range (m...
you pretty much can if you get the chain secondary blessing and jsut spam it
tired jackal
does warp absorption count towards force sword special or no?
olive ember
and then 15 if not enough
fierce sinew
you pretty much can if you get the chain secondary blessing and jsut spam it
you have very little agency right now about what gets targeted beyond the first
spice veldt
they fixed it this patch to make warp absorption work on the illisi
worn bolt
if you have it out and generate warp then it applies
tired jackal
oh nice screw quiettude then
fierce sinew
quietude generates more toughness per unit of time than warp absorption anyway
worn bolt
you have very little agency right now about what gets targeted beyond the first
yeah, normally the high prio targets will be outside of the hordes, you can get rid of them easy
if not you can get rid of the hordes then the high prio
illi is good at being indiscriminate
fierce sinew
until they make essence harvest stack instead of refresh it's close to pointless
with quietude as it is
spice veldt
smh confusing essence harvest with warp absorption
worn bolt
but yeah what I do typically if stuff is in hordes is just ult to knock down trash, then bb the specials still standing
fierce sinew
lmao you right
spice veldt
yeah illisi is pretty good against mixed hordes as long as there aren't any ogryn enemies in em
fierce sinew
can't believe people consider warp absorption at all
spice veldt
i never ever thought about it until the illisi came about
and then the special didn't work with it until the recent fix
warp absorption would be pretty strong in events where you have to move around and there's a constant stream of enemies, but I still prefer the comfiness of quietude
stuck sinew
Warp absorption is kind of a "win more" feat
olive ember
They nerfed psyker toughness regen like across the board from CBT to prelaunch
spice veldt
yeah I'd be comfortable with bringing warp absorption to lower difficulties
fierce sinew
Warp absorption is kind of a "win more" feat
this is exactly the locution I considered using and decided against because tide community is design illiterate
stuck sinew
Yeah it's just the least reliable in times when you actually need tough regen
You can't just take cover and recover
like the other 2 (assuming you BB behind a wall with essence)
fierce sinew
yep
the only time it's functioning at a rate to compete with the other two is when you're winning handily and don't need regen at all
it's "being invisible but only when nobody is looking" tier defensive mechanic
vagrant frigate
lol
high prism
hey i'm starting new psyker character , which staff and melee is the best for newbie now ?
spice veldt
purgatus, the flamethrower staff, would probably be it, though it's the last staff you unlock
cyan notch
well then
fierce sinew
you unlock antax early, that's your melee until 30, at which point you can start spending resources to put together a sword
the staves you just use in the order you unlock them pretty much immediately, purg is at 15 and you use that until 30
again at which point you spend resources on whatever you actually want
spice veldt
illisi and deimos force swords being pretty good, though I'm not sure at what level you unlock them at; the Slaughterer blessing is particularly good on them
fierce sinew
of the available options when leveling antax + purg function the best at white rarity and it's not even really close
I'm assuming this is your first psyker (because you wouldn't be asking otherwise) and you don't have slaughterer for force sword banked already
fierce sinew
yeah then you just antax only until level 15 pretty much, your staff won't really matter
high prism
still lately i've seen lot of psyker wielding gun that good as killing horde and only blow the elite head off
new meta for you guy ?
mental rock
yeah shredder is very good rn
fierce sinew
it's 50% memes and 50% pinning fire +blaze away interacting multiplicatively with warp unleashed
on shredder
that half is real
olive ember
still lately i've seen lot of psyker wielding gun that good as killing horde and...
Depends, gun psykers are either amazing or trash
I personally wouldn’t be wasting ammo on a horde tho
fierce sinew
that's another thing you probably want to wait to fuck with until you're 30 and have some plasteel and patience for hadron to waste
olive ember
Gun psyker imo is the “I’ve fucked around long enough and I’m bored so let’s run gun”
It’s good because autopistol is good but
fierce sinew
that's the meme half
olive ember
I wouldn’t recommend it as like a first timer
I mean tbh the main thing you gotta learn is psykers innate shitty states besides stam regen
fierce sinew
if you're not properly hashtag blessed you're more than likely trolling
olive ember
The biggest problem is people see the illisi and psyker buffs, try to run psyker like the other classes and get shit on because psyker gets deleted in like 3 hits
spice veldt
well you can run it like the other classes as long as you avoid getting hit
spice veldt
people don't abuse the infinite dodges enough
olive ember
Tbf the dodge distance is halved
worn bolt
can spam ijt anyway lmao[]
olive ember
Rly? Feels like half kek
fierce sinew
the distance doesn't really matter when you're dark soulsing
spice veldt
orchid shadow
Speaking of plasteel to waste, I'm ready to burn some. I have an okayish Illisi with T3 Unstable and T3 Slaughter. Is it worth going for T4 for those? Or try to get a good autopistol with a T4 Pinning or Blaze away? I fully expect to get none of those. =/
worn bolt
not accounting for most psykers just being shit
feral verge
Speaking of plasteel to waste, I'm ready to burn some. I have an okayish Illisi...
i have spent 50k or more plasteel trying to get unstable 4
this is all i have to show for the plasteel spent
spice veldt
t4 slaughterer sure
orchid shadow
i have spent 50k or more plasteel trying to get unstable 4
Oh man. I know my luck. That means I'll never get it.
spice veldt
that's an extra 15% power from t3 to t4
olive ember
Psykers used to be the most reliable randoms
feral verge
Oh man. I know my luck. That means I'll never get it.
i've been trying to get it for a month
olive ember
Now not so much
feral verge
checked melk every day
worn bolt
holy shit you are right lmao, you have to arc a fucking staff
orchid shadow
This is what I'm running right now.
worn bolt
then see a random hitmarker as you blow the entire horde to shit
worn bolt
This is what I'm running right now.
I Managed to get lucky with melk
orchid shadow
Holy. That's nice. Melk hasn't had anything for my Psyker in two weeks except for a couple of Trauma staves with Surge
ember sentinel
finally got around to trying purge staff, what blessings would you guys recommend? Im guessing the ones i got rolled arent great
feral verge
warp nexus is best in slot, with warp flurry
terrifiyng barrage is worthless/pointless
feral verge
it does
ember sentinel
but good to know that one of the blessings is good
feral verge
crit = 2 burn stacks on an enemy
ember sentinel
ah ok
robust relic
Question siblings, I know in the past staff secondaries didn't count as ranged kills for milk tasks. Is that the same? All staff secondaries?
fluid tapir
fairly certain i've been getting scab/ranged contracts with them
cyan notch
they count
vagrant frigate
"GET I GET A BRAINBURST"
me: >no 🙂
feral verge
get good
graceful aurora
What's the best way to get new staffs? Buy from money store and upgrade, or wait for a gold to come to the weekly store?
olive ember
Buy from store
Weekly is for blessing hunting for the most part
Getting an amazing weapon is just a lot of grinding and a lot of rng tho sadly no way around it
graceful aurora
I see. Are the blessings single use or do you own a recipe forever once you have the pattern?
fluid tapir
own the blessing but only on that weapon
other weapons that take the same perk you need to re-get
graceful aurora
well that's something. I thought it was general to staffs, but I got blitz 3 for purge now by accdicent.
feral verge
blitz?
olive ember
It’s shared across account but also only transferable across same weapon family
spice veldt
all of our current staffs belong to different families, so they won't share blessings
olive ember
^^
But hey if you get that meta pinning fire 4 on autopistol
Congrats you can use it for all classes
🎉
graceful aurora
sorry flurry not blitz
Also, why is there +expereince on trinkets if you can't share gear among characters? Do the devs not like us?
cyan notch
cuz fuck you thats why
also its now locked ty come again
maybe you will enjoy your +15% curio chance and + dockets now
graceful aurora
lol
This one seems like it's worth a go, it has higher damage than my current gold already
vagrant frigate
This one seems like it's worth a go, it has higher damage than my current gold a...
thats like perfect
olive ember
This one seems like it's worth a go, it has higher damage than my current gold a...
Yeah it’s p good staff probably best stats you could roll given it’s a 344
graceful aurora
What's good cloud?
cyan notch
thats burn
feral verge
youre thinking of burn
cyan notch
cloud you want as high as possible
feral verge
can we ban this guy
olive ember
That’s my excuse
graceful aurora
oh, barrage 2 :/ whelp
graceful aurora
Huh, whelp
north cradle
Oof
feral verge
<@253355223400185867> <@203732410301415427> worlds sanest vetern player
lmao
olive ember
If you aren’t playing like a spastic are you truly playing psyker
feral verge
lassic vet
olive ember
Oh… dear…
I mean… replace run n gun with nexus and you’ll have best staff before the flurry fix XD
worn bolt
this is why I turn voice chat off lmao, I just blast music. also good taste
vagrant frigate
this is why I turn voice chat off lmao, I just blast music. also good taste
lol
didnt get it in the clip but i asked why he was gatekeeping me out of a dead game
and he lost his shit
vagrant frigate
doesnt want my "kind" of playear in the game 
olive ember
Audio
feral verge
i dont want his kind of player in the game
wheat olive
This sword was basically made to fight Ogryns... However I don't use it for that, I spent most of my time with the Illsi clearing trash mobs, Ragers and Mutants. Of both the perks, I'd guess the Unyielding damage bonus is the one to replace, right?
olive ember
Lmao I just thought you were referring to how you played like you were having a seizure
forest coral
I had a 5 wound laspistol zealot backseat the entire 20 minutes of a damnation run once
graceful aurora
lol
I have only had two people use voice chat. One was RPing and super helpful in Dec. The second one was last night, they just had an open mic on speakers and gave me ear-heresy.
forest coral
He would lose his mind if u didn’t pick up the ammo he wanted u to pick up
worn ravine
just picked up a new sword from melk, the deflector 3 one is better right?
feral verge
This sword was basically made to fight Ogryns... However I don't use it for that...
i'd replace carapace because carapace is pretty sparse in game, and you BB carapace targets anway
worn ravine
4*
feral verge
and illisi does shit carapace dmg anyway, so a bonus aint gonna help it
cyan notch
<@253355223400185867> <@203732410301415427> worlds sanest vetern player
isnt he a zealot tho
feral verge
yee that was a zealot
nimble burrow
https://streamable.com/j7gbqd
there's not a game in my life i'd try that hard in lmao
imma chill with the three and just surge spam and m1 when the horde takes us
olive ember
SMH
vagrant frigate
my bad
worn bolt
zealots can have the same players as vets, they tend to attract the same crowd
vagrant frigate
damage btw 
feral verge
my dad is john fatshark and hes going to ban you for your mistake
graceful aurora
I mean… replace run n gun with nexus and you’ll have best staff before the flurr...
I think I like the stamina, I'm gonna try for crit. ditch the run'n'gun like you say.
olive ember
<@253355223400185867> <@203732410301415427> worlds sanest vetern player
@ember hornet pls brain burst more and no use quicken thx
worn bolt
but yeah, @vagrant frigate It's always funny when people forget this is a fuckin game and its meant for fun. its not a dick so don't take it so hard
wheat olive
just picked up a new sword from melk, the deflector 3 one is better right?
Deflector is my favorite perk on these swords, it's gotten me out of a lot of tight situations against ranged mobs
vagrant frigate
but yeah, <@276520234029023232> It's always funny when people forget this is a f...
lol yeah i meet some fun people
wheat olive
Deflector + your push ability makes you feel like a Jedi, more than most star wars games do lol
ember hornet
Implying I'm bad enough to not use BB smh
vagrant frigate
if i wanted to use brainburst i wouldnt play gun psyker
olive ember
Actually I just realized
vagrant frigate
if im out of ammo i am melee psyker
worn ravine
worth ripping deflector off and pairing it with unstable power on the higher dmg sword?
vagrant frigate
im not bbing anything
worn bolt
gun psyker puts in work without fuckin bb
its not required to do well
only reason I do is to keep stacks up
olive ember
I just don’t respond typically
worn bolt
extra damage with warp battery, if I Cant then o well
vagrant frigate
the most fun thing is to respond
i got kinda pissed that time but usually i just mess with them more
graceful aurora
Whelp, I think it's better than what I had before.
vagrant frigate
cuz im tryna watch yt and chill
spice veldt
i've had a player tell me to BB gunners for whatever reason even when I was melee-locking shooters
vagrant frigate
while going schizo mode
olive ember
I mean
feral verge
Whelp, I think it's better than what I had before.
carapace damage is awful on purga
terrifying barrage is useless on anything
cyan notch
Whelp, I think it's better than what I had before.
u should probably drop carapace
worn bolt
these people not joining my high intensity hunting grounds 
olive ember
Idk at one point the whole thing was psyker BB bad don’t use BB EVER
Idk when the fuck it 180’ed to BB the gunner wtf are you doing
olive ember
Yes clearly
And yeah it was def an extreme
I remember saying there were genuine use cases and people hard disagreed with me
So clearly I was the pro player this whole time
forest coral
cyan notch
unironically yes
forest coral
Always have been derpy
cyan notch
it takes like 2 braincells to realise the utility and strength of it
just because it doesnt 1 shot literally anything doesnt mean its bad
olive ember
But yeah obviously the don’t use BB ever was an extreme but i find it funny how the sentiment just 180’ed to “holy shit why aren’t you BB’ing gunners immediately”
ember sentinel
i have never once thought in my life it was bad
forest coral
Dumbasses were complaining it can’t one shot ragers therefore bad
graceful aurora
carapace damage is awful on purga
Oh I got Flak!
ember sentinel
even if you dont take warp battery the damage is still fine on 4 warp charges
olive ember
I mean hey I want it to one shot hounds and bursters without jumping through 6 warp charges + warp unleashed hoops
But
Yeah
ember sentinel
why hounds got so much HP
ember sentinel
it feels so disproportionate to the enemy
olive ember
If only their jank as hitboxes made it easier to deal in melee
Not even hitboxes their movement as well
spice veldt
I can reliably hit them out of the air with melee
clear heath
you'd kill then too easily if they didn't have so much hp
ember sentinel
yeah when my push into melee attack works they die
feral verge
I mean hey I want it to one shot hounds and bursters without jumping through 6 w...
i can 1 shot bursters
forest coral
Like I never understood the complainers about bb not realising that simply by existing a psyker, you were already anti specials, anti crusher and anti bullshit gunner/ snipers
olive ember
Like I spray em with auto pistol and they fucking rocket past me
spice veldt
pushing them is very unreliable
feral verge
oh nvm i misread
graceful aurora
fuck, I was certain I killed every hound in the hab twice last night. I did nothing but taze 5 hounds at a time with my surge staff
spice veldt
attacking them is more reliable because the hitboxes linger
ember sentinel
also yeah usually bursters go down in one unless i have like 0 warp charges
olive ember
fuck, I was certain I killed every hound in the hab twice last night. I did not...
Surge staff ain’t good on hunting grounds
It takes like
3 charges to kill a poxhound
clear heath
Like I never understood the complainers about bb not realising that simply by ex...
tbf, bb used to actually be a lot worse
olive ember
And you can only stun 5 of em at a time
vagrant frigate
they have 300 hp
graceful aurora
oh no, killing is for others, I just freeze them
forest coral
3 charges to kill a poxhound
your team will love u for it tho
lunar hollow
run purg and stare down the hounds for half an hour before it dies
olive ember
You aren’t full charging mind you
forest coral
Since u just turn them into free targets
spice veldt
BB was fine before the damage buff and WU buff
vagrant frigate
use shredder for dogs
olive ember
To stunlock that many pox pups you are like half charging
vagrant frigate
ill see if i have clip of me shredding dogs
spice veldt
even as just an anti-bulwark tool
graceful aurora
your team will love u for it tho
they actually were super appretiative. We were gonna be screwed any other way
olive ember
The main problem is that people were comparing it to every other class
But it’s a utility tool
spice veldt
people comparing BB to guns
clear heath
if by fine you mean we all had more than 0 uses for it, sure
but it was clearly weaker than it should've been
olive ember
I mean it does fucking suck when I need 2 BB to kill a hound and there’s like 3 hounds
spice veldt
i mean we still have our ranged and melee weapons for those purposes
it's an aim-assist weapon that pierces armour and shields
what more do you want from it?
olive ember
For it to not take literal years to kill one target I guess
graceful aurora
at Malice it one shots most things
clear heath
i think just 4?
spice veldt
oh no mutants which take 3x melee damage and are staggered after the end of their charge?
clear heath
bulwarks being 3 was annoying
spice veldt
they weren't known for it, but it's not like melee is terrible for them
spice veldt
you could three-shot mutants with obscurus heavy-headshots or two-shot them with a +maniac bodyshot special force sword with WU
graceful aurora
Psykers weren’t known for their melee ngl
I just used a knife with high mobility for spriting, then put it back.
ember sentinel
is antax that good on psyker? I thought it was only insane on zealot
vagrant frigate
its good on everything
forest coral
It’s decent on psyker because u can infinitely push attack if u wanted to
olive ember
It just didn’t truly feel good, cuz it would take you forever to kill like one crusher etc etc
forest coral
You had the stamina regen to play hyper safe
spice veldt
melees also take long to kill crushers
forest coral
And have all the benefits of warp stacks and antax shittery
clear heath
it didn't really justify how long and expensive it was to use it
ember sentinel
oh true i didnt think about antax damage plus warp charges
olive ember
I mean
clear heath
i mean if you had made it free i still wouldn't use it all the time back then
olive ember
That’s cuz they listened to the whiners in the CBT
Psyker BB used to one shot maulers
spice veldt
yes, because the peril cost wasn't the issue about brain burst
olive ember
So yeah
forest coral
Knife on psyker was also kinda nuts
spice veldt
since you can cast from 97% anyways
spice veldt
its clunkiness is a part of it
olive ember
Eh idk why we are getting into BB debate but
forest coral
Just demolished everything except crushers and maulers
clear heath
it had things holding it back that didn't need to be there because it wasn't that strong to begin with
that's what i mean by weaker than it should be
olive ember
Psyker BB was only good for gunners snipers and bombers at that point
Flamers took 2
spice veldt
even as just an anti-bulwark tool, it's extremely powerful
olive ember
Hounds and bursters took 2
vagrant frigate
shredder is anti bulwark
forest coral
Anti bulwarks and carapace
vagrant frigate
kek
north solstice
was this worth my time investing or should i look for another staff?
olive ember
And so on so forth
vagrant frigate
shredder is anti crusher
clear heath
i mean i run surge so anti bulwark is already covered anyways
forest coral
shredder is anti crusher
I thought only on zealot tho
ember sentinel
you want higher burn
vagrant frigate
I thought only on zealot tho
my psyker 1shots em
feral verge
was this worth my time investing or should i look for another staff?
crit damage is bad on every weapon
olive ember
Shredder sucks against crusher unless you zealot wym
vagrant frigate
no it doesnt
feral verge
you want crit rate
ember sentinel
was this worth my time investing or should i look for another staff?
in response to this
north solstice
crit damage is bad on every weapon
horrific, excuse me while i cry
spice veldt
that's a shame that role is covered by your ranged then
feral verge
horrific, excuse me while i cry
take crit rate
forest coral
Flayer doesn’t really count if that’s what being factored in tho
north solstice
what would i look for?
vagrant frigate
pinning fire buffs the damage of brainburst, so when your lvl 25 feat of brainburst on hit procs it does 4700 dmg if you pop ult beforehand
spice veldt
i mean it's a good thing that you have a weapon that supersedes a weapon that's inferior for that particular purpose, no?
vagrant frigate
ult then 1shot crushers
forest coral
pinning fire buffs the damage of brainburst, so when your lvl 25 feat of brainbu...
Oooh fair
spice veldt
of course ranged/melee weapons would be better than a grenade-slot weapon for something
cyan notch
nerf that shit
olive ember
horrific, excuse me while i cry
The problem with crit is that let’s say your weapon does 100 damage and when you crit it does 10% extra, so 110 total… +10% crit damage is literally 10% of the 10% so you now do 111 damage total
forest coral
Except no respite in this case
vagrant frigate
Oooh fair
i only play gun psyker so i have the timing of the 15 second cooldown pretty well mastered
clear heath
yes that's a good thing for the surge staff that it can do that
but that does mean BB wasn't that useful for the build
cyan notch
they should nuke shredder
north solstice
The problem with crit is that let’s say your weapon does 100 damage and when you...
why the fuck do they do it like that
olive ember
Fatshark
spice veldt
that's a shame that your selection of ranged/melee weapons altered the viability of BB
olive ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
vagrant frigate
north solstice
lol
forest coral
I don’t wanna rain on parades but Shredder needs some adjustment
It’s like, modifier god at the moment
olive ember
No it’s universally agreed
forest coral
cyan notch
i absolutely want to rain on all parades
olive ember
Nerf that fucking blessing
forest coral
Pinning fire and blaze away together
olive ember
Gotta buff shredder tho
forest coral
Wowee
olive ember
It’s like
ember sentinel
i havent used auto pistol yet but sometimes i wonder if i should be lol
olive ember
The blessing system is a disaster
forest coral
You ever played with Darcy on autopistol
olive ember
The two weapons that come to mind are hsword and shredder
clear heath
that's a shame that your selection of ranged/melee weapons altered the viability...
i mean it was a shame that it turned a part of our kit a lot less useful yes. makes the class really interesting to play
now it's a lot more useful and more fun
olive ember
Both are fucking complete trash when they are grey
forest coral
Man’s doing 600k damage+ if u let them
vagrant frigate
Man’s doing 600k damage+ if u let them
me
olive ember
But slap some meta blessings on em and suddenly they melt
spice veldt
very fun to hold down LMB and have no other mechanical engagement beyond that
forest coral
me
Except they do it on a vet, they’re both invincible to range at the same time and still doing more damage than max warp stacks
clear heath
listen i played psyker for a really long time. I was not arguing that psyker was weak
i'm arguing that bb was in fact weaker than it should be
that is all
spice veldt
I know'
vagrant frigate
Except they do it on a vet, they’re both invincible to range at the same time an...
well vet shredder is way more powerful
spice veldt
I'm arguing that BB should be weaker
olive ember
We’ve all played psyker for a long time
spice veldt
if you haven't been listening at all
forest coral
Ye
olive ember
Except some people
spice veldt
I've never talked about anything else but BB in my sentences
vagrant frigate
you are insane if you think shredder + psyker is better than shredder + vet
olive ember
Some people came in a few months ago and then try to argue with me
THE SUPERIOR PSYKER
clear heath
i think it was fine pre-warp unleashed buff
olive ember
SMH smh
spice veldt
yes
vagrant frigate
no vet is insanely op with shredder
forest coral
Nah no one would think that lmao
vagrant frigate
psyker is just more fun
spice veldt
well not pre-warp unleashed
feral verge
Vet is braindead
forest coral
Psyker is more fun
spice veldt
I think it was fine before the damage buff to BB
olive ember
Psyker is more versatile it’s got the CC shout and anti armor in BB
forest coral
A lot more dimensions to the gameplay
clear heath
I've never talked about anything else but BB in my sentences
idk you were talking about surge. i thought you were implying bb being useless in the build is fine because surge being able to deal with bulwarks still means the class is usable
feral verge
I seent it
olive ember
I fucking cry inside when my autopistol vet runs into like 4 crushers and 2 bulwarks
spice veldt
idk you were talking about surge. i thought you were implying bb being useless i...
I was being sarcastic
forest coral
<@173395742482759680> gun psyker
Ayyy
spice veldt
no shit your ranged/melee weapons will alter the function of your grenade in your build
vagrant frigate
ill find the clip of me killiung like 3 crushers instantly
spice veldt
and BB is still useful in that case
spice veldt
and BB was still useful for catching enemies that were running around
forest coral
Other weapon of silliness atm is fire shotgun
I love this things normal fire but the special fire is just
spice veldt
bombers and trappers in particular
feral verge
Other weapon of silliness atm is fire shotgun
I need no respite
dawn crypt
did they nerf kinetic barrage cast rate??
feral verge
Don't have it yet so my shotty feels meh
cyan notch
i thought they fixed the wallbang lol
forest coral
Yeah, it literally lets me one tap ragers if ANYTHING staggers them
forest coral
i thought they fixed the wallbang lol
They didn’t fix shit
This was right after patch
feral verge
did they nerf kinetic barrage cast rate??
No
clear heath
it makes the kit feel so empty when you're just using surge for most ranged things
It's a lot more fun using surge for certain groups of shooters and BB for other enemies like bulwarks
rather than surge for gunners, surge for bulwarks, surge for crushers, etc
i think 2 bb for bulwarks is a pretty healthy breakpoint
dawn crypt
No
why does it feel like my BB cast time is barely enhanced anymore when i pop my ability
cyan notch
wallhack + wallbang + godmode + constant healing
spice veldt
I mean, that's just a consequence of the ranged weapon, not BB itself
cyan notch
vets actually playing with legal cheats
spice veldt
and surge still has range issues
and of course the ranged weapon should supersede the grenade slot weapon?
feral verge
why does it feel like my BB cast time is barely enhanced anymore when i pop my a...
Maybe it's a bug
graceful aurora
and surge still has range issues
now that I know purge will stop dogs, I dunno what ht point of it is
spice veldt
once again, I feel like people are treating BB as if it's supposed to stand on the same level as your melee and ranged weapons
nimble burrow
i dont really understand what you're arguing for or against and to whom
i use bb when i see a crusher, or a sniper, or a bomber
clear heath
I feel like it being mixed into gameplay more is just more enjoyable
spice veldt
since our viewpoints won't meet together, I'll just say that BB should be reverted before the WU change and damage buff
clear heath
i liked it ever since it 2 shot bulwarks
vagrant frigate
@olive ember @feral verge @forest coral
feral verge
I only use staff special. Melee, staff lmb/rmb and BB are crutches for bad players with bad game sense
I also run no feats, cuz that's a crutch for bad gameplay too
vagrant frigate
I also run no feats, cuz that's a crutch for bad gameplay too
^
forest coral
He explode
cyan notch
nerf warp unleashed to only affect warp stuff no muggle weapons allowed
clear heath
I mean i just want more dynamic gameplay
if bb can function as a 3rd weapon while still letting your other slots be useful, i don't see why we need to shackle ourselves to keeping it at the level of a typical video game grenade slot
it doesn't really render your ranged weapon obsolete at the moment anyways
wanton sandal
emperor damn it man, I finally get my damnation dreyko for my penance and my internet cuts out near the arena
spice veldt
and my point was that it was still useful for catching bombers from afar, targeting trappers inside a horde, etc.
clear heath
it was, and that was lame
spice veldt
doesn't take away from the fact that you were still using it
cyan notch
theyd have to buff the other grenade slots for other classes then probably
vagrant frigate
(they kicked me from the game before the boss fight)
@feral verge @forest coral @olive ember crusher go boop
spice veldt
I'm fine with the grenade slot weapon being stronger for psyker
clear heath
"useful" and "weaker than it should be" actually aren't mutually exclusive. i actually don't disagree that it had some use
so we actually agree on that part
spice veldt
I don't care about discrepancies between design between different classes
vagrant frigate
turn up volume
forest coral
Why they kick u
clear heath
something can perform a useful role and still be gimped for no reason
spice veldt
I straight up disagree that it's "weaker than it should be"
vagrant frigate
racist or smth idk
feral verge
Why they kick lol
clear heath
it just wasn't fun imo
I want it to be strong enough that i have to carefully choose between my options, rather than only the times where it's extremely obvious where only it would work
spice veldt
if we're discussing the inconsistencies within the class in regards to warp charges and whatnot, then I would agree that BB should be altered to be more of an often-used weapon
but it is my strong opinion that it was extremely useful even before the damage buffs and warp unleashed changes
it's never going to be fun
it's an aim assist weapon
wow I get to hold LMB and have no mechanical engagement with it
that's never going to be fun
clear heath
i find it fun to alternate between surge and bb
or whatever staff and BB really
except maybe void i guess. i don't really use that weapon
vagrant frigate
wow I get to hold LMB and have no mechanical engagement with it
make it a skill check minigame that pops up, if you succeed you instant pop them, if not, twice as long
spice veldt
it is indeed fun to pick the right tool for the right situation
but changing the properties of BB isn't going to add any new dimensionality without adding some new feature
vagrant frigate
its meme 🙃
spice veldt
and I maintain that it was still often used before the damage/WU buffs
I straight up do think that you just forget about the times where you used BB
since it's not like BB is the most engaging weapon ever
clear heath
i mean on surge it's actually sometimes an important decision between damage or stunning 5 targets
before it was just, idk who cares it doesn't matter cause it won't hurt. Just using bb for stuff where surge couldn't actually reach
spice veldt
ehhhhhhhhh
i mean if you value stuns more than damage
that's on you
or surgical targeting
clear heath
sometimes using surge twice would kill more gunners than using BB on every individual gunner
i have to actually plan around that
or think about wherher the enemies have been hit already
maybe they're low and i should just surge
maybe i should just bb the bulwark twice and get it out of the way instead
spice veldt
the lower damage also gave you an incentive to synergize with other weapons
"instead of having to BB this bulwark three times, I could BB -> obscurus light combo -> obscurus heavy/light special to kill the bulwark"
now it's just BB the bulwark two times
straight up neglecting the stun of BB
olive ember
Eh the stun in CBT was cooler
It staggered then on start of cast all the way through
They changed it so it doesn’t do that anymore
spice veldt
you can still stun certain enemies with RMB -> LMB immediately
spice veldt
still exists
olive ember
Back when lmb also did it
clear heath
Yeah the fact that we don't need bulwark combos anymore is kinda a loss
spice veldt
BB also staggering gunners midway or with the RMB->LMB
being able to run and sprint-slide with BB while casting
clear heath
actually you know what bb nerf i would be pretty cool with
making it so BB on bulwarks only kills in 2 with warp unleashed and high peril
so you can still do it but not all of the time
if they get close and you're not at high peril then the combo would make sense
spice veldt
encourage the use of other weapons to make up for the BB's lack of damage
take advantage of its stagger
or teammates taking advantage of the stagger
e.g., when you hit a bulwark
clear heath
teammates do take advantage of the stagger as it is
spice veldt
straight up on-demand staggers against bulwark is strong
cyan notch
i think its faster to bb then poke with deimos
spice veldt
yeah I usually BB -> illisi special if I can
especially when you don't have the luxury of dealing with bulwarks with a mixed horde unless you bring a specific ranged weapon (plasmagun, bolter) or melee (idk)
clear heath
or press f (if the game's jank actually lets it work)
spice veldt
maybe with 4 warp charges or more, though I'm not often at max charges to test it
clear heath
god i swear psyker f push is the second buggiest thing in the game
spice veldt
yeah that shit not working every time
clear heath
sometimes i use it and it pushes stuff towards me
cyan notch
bb doesnt stagger bulwarks sometimes
spice veldt
usually when their shield gets hit
or they're being staggered by the reaper behind them
cyan notch
im pretty sure when enemies aggro from far away and are doing their pathing to their target they just shrug off all stagger
spice veldt
that too it seems
especially noticeable with bursters
that's the one enemy that I recall with that happening
cyan notch
ive seen surge do absolutely nothing to them many times
point blank ragers just ignore it and run through u to get to your teammate
clear heath
god i swear psyker f push is the second buggiest thing in the game
if anyone wants to know what i think the buggiest thing in the game is...
spice veldt
i do
nimble burrow
stagger/stun is really weird in general
cyan notch
or when ragers are running to your teammates and u try to left click purg them it does nothing until they stop in front of their target then it magically starts staggering them again
spice veldt
damn actually jailed
spice veldt
a +maniac illisi heavy-special headshot -> some other melee attack is enough to two-shot them
supple skiff
going into hi int damnation with all psyker squad, wish us luck lol
spice veldt
or with max slaughterer stacks, just one-shot them with a heavy-special headshot
no, i refuse to wish you luck
cyan notch
i think hi int is pretty chill now after experiencing hi int shock troops
worn bolt
its fun with a good team
spice veldt
i like killing specialists
worn bolt
I like bacon
spice veldt
one-shotting flamers
ornate hamlet
one thing i could think it being would be the equivalent of a force choke or force stasis
spice veldt
not much a fan of bacon
ornate hamlet
you stop an enemy from moving and attacking to set up an attack for someone else
worn bolt
thats fine i'm nota fan either, I'm a chicken
ornate hamlet
imagine even
a feat that changes the combat ability into a mass freeze that increases peril
spice veldt
how am I to save myself when I activate perils of the warp 😔
ornate hamlet
ornate hamlet
me when i switch weapon to attack after bb and accidentally fire the staff
warp take me
i think it could be something similar to the flashbang from zealot
except bloody instant
feral verge
I hate it when you're on BB and try to swap to staff or melee
And your input gets eaten
ornate hamlet
same
jesus that tilts me so much
i have a horde in front of me and keep starting bb over and over like my psyker has warp-induced brain damage
spice veldt
muscle memory of swap to melee -> LMB/RMB and that just keeps casting BB over and over again
worn bolt
I swapped my melee key to tilde
ornate hamlet
another possibility would be to turn psykinetic freeze into a hold ability that can freeze a single enemy for a prolonged time at the cost of the skills aoe
feral verge
Idk if it's like this anymore, but I remember during the beta the swap to BB would get eaten sometimes.
It made me rebind bb to mouse scroll
ornate hamlet
so you tap the skill and freeze hordes, or hold it for a bit kinda like bb and stun a reaper
clear heath
i think if you're changing the combat ability that much, at that point they'd just make it a new subclass
ornate hamlet
the problem with a new subclass is that they have to try to make new feats for it while the current ones dont even have good balance
clear heath
i bet it's buggy as hell
no way they do anything that involves manipulating enemy movement and it isn't a buggy mess
bet it just doesn't work sometimes
ornate hamlet
any psyker picking quicken or the funny fire is basically shafting their ability to save the team from crushers and elites and removing up to 24% damage from the brain burst and every other attack
cerebral lacerations is basically a boss feat and many matches players dont even find bosses or have people much better equipped to fight one
mind in motion shares its space with nigh-infinite blocking and ranged toughness dr
clear heath
I don't think our last column is that horribly designed
but there's definitely a lot of issues with those other feats yeah
mind in motion lol
cyan notch
funny fire is good
ornate hamlet
god forbid if they made a new subclass and went "all the feats have to be different"
spice veldt
noooo quietude :((
clear heath
vermintide 2 has a lot of subclasses
and those feats were terribly balanced too so you're not wrong
ornate hamlet
alternatively they could increase the amount of feats per level
3 is a bit of an arbitrary number
could even make each level tackle a specific part of the class
5, for example, is always toughness and 30 is always the ult
this could apply to the rest
cyan notch
they do do that im pretty sure
ornate hamlet
sometimes
cyan notch
there is a theme
idk if increasing the feats per level does anything
itd be an even bigger nightmare to balance
ornate hamlet
vets 10 is long range damage, faster reload or grenade refund
clear heath
more feats per level would just be more shit they can't be bothered to balance
mind in motion added to every column
ornate hamlet
yeah, it all kinda hangs itself on fatshark being able to balance the game
which if vt2 is any proof...
snow coral
finally got an illi that I was happy to upgrade. rerolled block efficiency and will eventually rebless shred...
I'll have to see how bad the warp resistance is 🤣
feral verge
I'll have to see how bad the warp resistance is 🤣
Low warp resist is good
snow coral
oh, I thought higher was better on that?
I've only recently started doing 5's on the reg and looking at gear
feral verge
Warp unleashed + unstable power boost smg at high peril
snow coral
I thought we wanted everything as close to 80 as possible
feral verge
Low warp resist lets you reach higher peril quickly
snow coral
ah, gotcha, that makes sense
orchid shadow
Lol, it never gets old. 😛
feral verge
To instantly reach high peril
That's what 41% peril resist looks like
It's nonironically amazing
ornate hamlet
with the way peril works it also gives the player little benefit to having warp resist on the sword
potent echo
Yea low peril resist for FS actually desired
snow coral
that makes sense, I need to relook at my feats
ornate hamlet
if youre just below critical peril, you can use bb and fs specials
snow coral
so if I run quietitude and unleashed does a standard setup look like 3 1 1 3 2 2? or am I way off?
feral verge
I try to be 80% or higher
ornate hamlet
so an attack that gives you idfk 30% peril can be used at 96% peril because you started the input at 96% peril
snow coral
Yeah I try and stay below 50 🤣 I am trying to work on managing it better for the perks
feral verge
You'll learn
ornate hamlet
and also its a good thing because players shouldnt get "oops, your peril has overflown by 1%, explode now"
feral verge
Replace shred with unstable power on that sword
snow coral
I can hold my own in 4s, but I tend to be the anchor in 5s because I can't take a hit. but i love psyker so I want to play it better
feral verge
Unstable power t4 will grant you 20% more power at 80% peril
snow coral
Replace shred with unstable power on that sword
I'll try and fine one to earn the blessing
feral verge
It stacks 4x
ornate hamlet
dodge the hits 
snow coral
dodge the hits <:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
yeah. My problem is I eventually end up dodging too early and jump
ornate hamlet
rebind dodge away from jump
snow coral
that would make sense... lol
hrm
what do you bind it too? or rebind jump off of space maybe...
feral verge
I have alt for jump, space for dodge
snow coral
actually jump on x makes sense...
yeah alt would work too
damn I guess I should spend more time in here, lol
ornate hamlet
i have it bound to spacebar along with dodge, thats why i say its a bad idea 
ornate hamlet
i dislike the game making you jump if you mash space
austere estuary
Accidental jumps when dodging is horrible
snow coral
yeah that's what fucks me up most of the time
austere estuary
Also nice to be able to just press space then ctrl from neutral to do a big back slide
Especially for poxbursters
snow coral
I have crouch bound to a side button on my mouse, works really well
that and the weapon specials are there
alright well let's try this new illi out and the new key bindings. Probably going to forget how to climb in game 🤣
feral verge
Mouse 4 wep special, mouse 5 tagging
snow coral
middle mouse to tag for me
unreal tapir
how is psyker after the new peril changes? I heard before that it was pretty lacking on high difficulty
unreal tapir
thats good
feral verge
I only play damnation
snow coral
yeah it does feel really good now, even with me still learning the finer points of play
feral verge
Psykers are eating very good right now
snow coral
so ragers always fuck me in damnation, what's the trick? I can never seem to get away and I melt to them.
I guess if I'm that close to them I already fucked up?
feral verge
so ragers always fuck me in damnation, what's the trick? I can never seem to get...
Push them with force sword
And use force sword special on them
It stuns them
They freeze in place when you use it
snow coral
i feel like i do that to one but then the other two still hit me in the animation
naive junco
F
unreal tapir
i might finally make a psyker after new changes. everywhere i looked previously was just people bitching that psyker was underwhelming past malice
naive junco
unless you using illisi then just 2 back slides to charge and H1
nimble burrow
once i learned all the special spawns on each map i got a lot more confident with psyker
spice veldt
it's pretty rough to use the deimos/obscurus special on ragers
at least on deimos, you can just use the normal attacks
on illisi, the special staggers them and you should be able to chain light-specials repeatedly on them without getting hit
feral verge
I only use light special with Deimos on ragers
Because the animation doesn't get stuck for as long
If you spam lmb during/after
It's pretty quick
But you have to be careful when you do it
Cuz you're still stuck for .3 seconds or whatever
spice veldt
illisi is pretty brainless for ragers since you only need to spam the special, so I like it for that
naive junco
l1/h2 while back dodging on deimos
spice veldt
something to keep in mind is that rager combos ignore your dodge state and won't have their tracking broken by dodge, so you'll need to really skirt outside of their attack hitbox
nimble burrow
got the rending uncanny strike 4 on illisi, thanks melk
dudes hookin me up this week, gave me slaughter 4 the other day too
unreal tapir
does new psyker have decent carry potential like vet? I want to try it but its hard to give up that free 1 many army capability with vet because i queue a lot of pub higher difficulty so im not very reliant on the team more just the class being broken. Psyker interests me with how it works but i would be miserable playing pubs if i didnt have the potential to carry my teammates and continuously get loss screens or be forced to lfg
naive junco
its good for crushers atleast
special in osb or deimos gives 5 stacks before the pop
feral verge
does new psyker have decent carry potential like vet? I want to try it but its h...
Psyker can carry plenty, but they have to try harder/play sweatier on clutch moments
robust relic
So one of my loadouts whenever I click to it or off it my game crashes...anyone had that? any resolution?
nimble burrow
yeah i messed around with it in the test room, seems fake for anything you'd want to rend
spice veldt
does new psyker have decent carry potential like vet? I want to try it but its h...
it's pretty good for that because BB deals with bulwarks, the Illisi is a much more mobile power sword, and the CC from staffs can buy time while killing enemies
nimble burrow
You want slaughterer and unstable power on that bad boy
my other one has the slaughter 4 and shred 3 which is working well enough for me rn
spice veldt
Psyker also has a much shorter stamina regeneration delay of 0.5 seconds compared to 1.25 seconds of Veteran
nimble burrow
ya know, i noticed that and thought it was a bug
spice veldt
beyond our low max stamina that can be patched up by a stamina curio or the Kinetic Deflection feat, we have very little downtime in safety
we're a bit squishier if you just look at our base HP and toughness, but I do think we have some pretty good toughness regen feats to avoid getting peeled by ranged, and you should be safe in melee as long as you're pushing/dodging properly
halcyon root
Am I the only one using the deimos force sword? This thing completely replaces the Obscurus
robust relic
learn to hide behind cover, it matters a lot, and learn the "theres a guy behind you" sound, really important for any player but especially for psyker
hollow current
Lots of us use it to dunk on mutants.
feral verge
Am I the only one using the deimos force sword? This thing completely replaces t...
Deimos fucks
halcyon root
I dunk everything with it - its nuts
spice veldt
or abuse the force sword's infinite dodges and completely forgo cover
halcyon root
Chad Deimos enjoyers
halcyon root
The other force sword is literally the power sword so I care less.
robust relic
bit phallic, the Deimos, but decent enough...I dont like the downward strike pattern
halcyon root
deimos is a dragon dildo
feral verge
The other force sword is literally the power sword so I care less.
You can 1 shot headshot charging muties with the 2nd heavy attack from Deimos
As this video demonstrates
Made by @near wyvern
It's my favorite thing in this game. I love hunting muties
hollow current
most peeps passed over it and fawned over the Illi which in itself is nuts.
That mutant killing poke tho
cyan notch
illisi can nuke muties too
halcyon root
infinite dodge and it obliterates anything you charge heavy
feral verge
fuck the deimos
Can we ban this guy
cyan notch
pretty decently actually
unreal tapir
i wish they would balance the game a bit better and tune up the other classes or tune down vet. im going to force myself to try psyker because i really like how the staves look but i figure ill be miserable for the first 40+ hours because its higher skill ceiling than pick bolter and instantly kill all specials within a 5 mile radius. on the bright side psyker definitely looks a lot more interesting gameplay wise than vet which will be fresh and probably get me back into the game for another long grind period. anything I should know about psyker mechanics before i suffer in pubs on a level 1?
olive ember
i wish they would balance the game a bit better and tune up the other classes or...
🤔
can't tell if this is a copypasta or not
feral verge
i wish they would balance the game a bit better and tune up the other classes or...
Playing psyker will make you better at the game overall
feral verge
It has the highest skill ceiling imo
olive ember
fun
halcyon root
Play zealot will make you better at the game overall imo
then you'll be a better psyker
robust relic
https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10
this is a good video, the trauma staff isnt, but the rest is
feral verge
Forces you to learn good positioning, game sense and to master melee combat
olive ember
lmao zealot does not make you better at game
halcyon root
I agree
spice veldt
i wish they would balance the game a bit better and tune up the other classes or...
With respect to brainburst, you must initiate the LMB cast at 97% or below, or you will explode upon finishing your cast. For RMB, you must left-click at 97% or below. The peril% that you see hides some decimal values, so you might still explode at 97%, so I recommend starting your cast at 96% or below
olive ember
zealot is the "haha i have toughness regen for days and on demand" class
then again
so is vet
hollow current
I feel like pysker is the most versatile character.
feral verge
I play worse on zealot because it's piss easy
olive ember
just play psyker
spice veldt
well, same goes for psyker
feral verge
I don't have to try
olive ember
🤔
halcyon root
You dont play at diff5 if you think a zealot is easy
olive ember
well yes
feral verge
Zealot is brain off mode for me
feral verge
You dont play at diff5 if you think a zealot is easy
I only play hi5
halcyon root
same
feral verge
And zealot is dumb easy
olive ember
recon lasgun go brrr
spice veldt
psyker felt fine to me before the quelling buffs with respect to toughness regen
feral verge
Compared to what I'm used to as a psyker main
spice veldt
esp with the pre-buff trauma staff
olive ember
I was fine with it but eh
hollow current
tips for getting past sedition?
olive ember
easier for everyone so i won't complain
feral verge
I use thammer
olive ember
fucking thammer
halcyon root
Psyker is def harder no disagree there
unreal tapir
also what does the psyker's arsenal look like? vet was pretty boring with 1 melee weapon choice and 2 viable guns
olive ember
simply pass the vibe check
hollow current
Do more damage, take less damage
naive junco
charged hammer should have much more aoe. 😦
olive ember
no joke tho
halcyon root
With this new force sowrd I dont have to worry about position anymore I just square up now its glorious
feral verge
also what does the psyker's arsenal look like? vet was pretty boring with 1 mele...
All the staves are good, but the surge staff (lightning) is a noobtrap imo
olive ember
I quickplay into damnation
I don't realize its hi int or wte until like
halfway through the mission
feral verge
The force sword are nice
halcyon root
surge staff can carry pub noobs
spice veldt
well, it's only a noobtrap if you just spam the surge staff and don't swap to melee
otherwise the staff is fine
hollow current
Hi int seems to show itself when there's an ogryn around every corner.
snow coral
holy shit, the illi is so good, i love that it doesn't do the animation lock with the warp activated
olive ember
also what does the psyker's arsenal look like? vet was pretty boring with 1 mele...
pick anything that isn't the recon las and the devils claw and you are good
cyan notch
psyker can use whatever ranged you like now tbh
naive junco
when you see ppl spamming surge on trash horde.. thats the trap
unreal tapir
thats what i was wondering. are staves more of a support weapon that you continuously swap out with melee on psyker to keep effects like freeze up?
olive ember
nah I do that to assert dominance on the plebian who has to melee the horde for me
halcyon root
locking down a strike team for your braindead team mates makes the game a lot easier
olive ember
chad illi looking down on the virgin nerfed power sword
shush do you want our sword to get nerfed
spice veldt
thats what i was wondering. are staves more of a support weapon that you continu...
depends on the staff; surge certainly fits that description
olive ember
then we will have to crawl like the filthy vets
feral verge
thats what i was wondering. are staves more of a support weapon that you continu...
The best psykers are always swapping imo. From bb, to staff, to melee ect.
olive ember
using the fucking antax
spice veldt
Purgatus is just Flamer's little brother, so it's quite good
Voidstrike is ranged hordeclear with some stagger
Trauma is basically vet's nade but it's infinite
olive ember
The best psykers are always swapping imo. From bb, to staff, to melee ect.
thats a lie the best psykers are braindamaged and just use melee
and only melee
cuz we can't be fucked
feral verge
You can use a staff to stagger/stun ane enemy then BB him, or use melee special on him
snow coral
alright, I keep seeing antax, what is that?
naive junco
psword still gets that nice blessing.
feral verge
All sorts of combos for differing situations
olive ember
Mk 5 Antax Combat Axe
feral verge
Psyker is the most versatile class imo
snow coral
roger
halcyon root
Yeah I use the staff to stagger 4+ nerds then force sword assassinate the special in the group
spice veldt
halcyon root
its fantastic
molten sparrow
hey, is this sword worth investing in? What are the dump stats please for the force sword.
spice veldt
hey, is this sword worth investing in? What are the dump stats please for the fo...
mobility and warp res
unreal tapir
my biggest concern with playing psyker was brainburst / warp charge mechanic, after seeing other people play psyker it looked kind of clunky
feral verge
Warp resistance is the dump stat
fierce sinew
just warp res
feral verge
I like high mobility
hollow current
hey, is this sword worth investing in? What are the dump stats please for the fo...
war resistance is the main dump stat, mobility can dump too tho i like it personally.
naive junco
warp res only.. mobility is great.
olive ember
my biggest concern with playing psyker was brainburst / warp charge mechanic, af...
it is
treat it as utility
feral verge
Even if the returns aren't that great
feral verge
high mobility is the way to go
Especially on deimos
olive ember
but don't use it like a primary source of dmg
spice veldt
my biggest concern with playing psyker was brainburst / warp charge mechanic, af...
it's a bit clunky since that's part of its design
spice veldt
you really shouldn't be using BB all the time
olive ember
at whihc point its like
unreal tapir
so keeping warp charges is up is more of just a bonus rather than a necessity, just bb for killing weaker elites?
olive ember
eh i mean i've had games where the team just gets utterly supressed
naive junco
hey, is this sword worth investing in? What are the dump stats please for the fo...
pick this up in the meantime till you find one with dumped warp res
olive ember
at that point you kinda just BB
olive ember
so keeping warp charges is up is more of just a bonus rather than a necessity, j...
with the right build warp charges shouldn't be much of an issue but for the most part yes imo
unless you are specifically going for some breakpoints
spice veldt
so keeping warp charges is up is more of just a bonus rather than a necessity, j...
psykers have feats to generate warp charges basically passively
molten sparrow
pick this up in the meantime till you find one with dumped warp res
I got more ordo docs still
spice veldt
and most people just run them instead of having to BB a random ass enemy every 25 seconds
unreal tapir
thats good. the whole bb mechanic is kind of what turned me away from psyker because its so clunky for the pace that darktide plays at
spice veldt
not t4 slaughterer and it's deflector; throw it away
yeah, our ranged and melee weapons are good enough to usually avoid using BB
unless you run purg which has range issues
olive ember
not t4 slaughterer and it's deflector; throw it away
fuck you my t4 slaughterer is on my obscures
spice veldt
or just dodge-slide and abuse the infinite dodges of our force swords
fierce sinew
it's only clunky if your build is stupid tbh
spice veldt
infinite dodges means that there's no penalty for dodge-sliding anymore
fierce sinew
either you're getting charges from sources other than BB or you're using kinetic barrage to make BB not clunky
spice veldt
you can also run and slide with BB while casting
same with all staffs except voidstrike
naive junco
youre gonna end up replacing your obsc sword anyway..
halcyon root
IN TO THE TRASH IT GOES
halcyon root
based crafting system strikes again
hollow current
This is what you get for trashing deimos
fierce sinew
what are you spending plasteel on obscurus for
olive ember
feral verge
Where's the low warp resist
spice veldt
prob farming blessings
olive ember
I also have this so yeah
im farming blessings at this point
prob should be goin for auto pistol pinning fire 4 tho
when my best auto pistol is on my psyker
hollow current
I just had pinning 4 pop up in melk on my zealot after two months of waiting.
olive ember
can you afford it kek
hollow current
Came up yesterday and already got it.
olive ember
nice nice
i got pinning fire 3 today on my zealot
fucking got rid of that pistol so quick
so i could slap pinning fire on my psyker kek
well also cuz that pistol was trash
but yeah both of my pistols got pinning fire now and its great
until they nerf pinning fire
hollow current
surprised they haven't yet. I was rocking it months ago on my vet and it was p fun.
olive ember
fuck I almost forgot to swap out the shitty deimos on my purge build
thank fuck for that
feral verge
You're unworthy of that drip
feral verge
You can't wear it until you learn to love Deimos
hollow current
Alright. is it time to gamble at brunts for more Trauma staves or Deimos swords?
feral verge
Complete with the dunce top
olive ember
Alright. is it time to gamble at brunts for more Trauma staves or Deimos swords?
use neither duh
feral verge
Alright. is it time to gamble at brunts for more Trauma staves or Deimos swords?
Deimos
hollow current
use neither duh
feral verge
If I were forced to choose for whatever reason, I'd rather have an amazing melee over an amazing staff
