Yeah +9 stam is a bit overkill but it's fucking funny alright. It's one of those things if you are bored. Recommended to take Deflector Exorcist illisi + Surge staff for the all in tank build.
#psyker-class
near wyvern
near wyvern
It's only 100 plasteel, 200 if you wanna come back to that build. Do it for the lulz
fresh reef
how would you lot feel if they removed infinite FS dodge and gave it a dodge limit of 5?
spice veldt
it would be a significant nerf to my playstyle, but i'd be fine with it since I can always revert to my old playstyle
near wyvern
how would you lot feel if they removed infinite FS dodge and gave it a dodge lim...
Honestly, the only thing that it would do is make it harder to tank Daemonhost and you can't shit on veterans anymore as you are just zooming past them by dodging.
feral verge
i kinda want to do it with a deimos
spice veldt
psykers have the stamina regen delay to be safe regardless of dodges
feral verge
cuz of the mobility
near wyvern
Tank needs no mobi, just tank it :3
viral solstice
heavy attacks should drain stamina for damage at max charge, the more u wind it up the more damage it does
feral verge
having 300 deimos in my inventory might pay off
viral solstice
if u fully drain ur stamina u explode
near wyvern
Excorsist on horde with illisi is just funny cause you take a couple swings and quell for 50.
near wyvern
I mean it's not that optimal but it's just another fucking funny thing on the tank build
fresh steeple
how would you lot feel if they removed infinite FS dodge and gave it a dodge lim...
on this note, because I don't think I've ever seen the answer to this: How does one reset the dodge limit of a weapon? A period of time without dodges? Attacks between dodges?
spice veldt
wait 0.85 seconds without dodging, dodge-sliding, or sprint-sliding
fresh steeple
gotcha
feral verge
okay i found the sword
fresh steeple
"limit"
near wyvern
on this note, because I don't think I've ever seen the answer to this: How does ...
@fresh steeple get numeric UI and disable the things you don't want but enable the dodge counter. Helps ton to see when your dodges reset.
fresh steeple
I have it, but I don't recall seeing a dodge timer option. Maybe my version is too old.
good to know
near wyvern
It's not on by default
spice veldt
the dodge limit is also mostly a softcap, and you still get put into a dodge state. Just that a lot of melee attacks are still able to hit you if you're too close and in front of them
fresh steeple
yeah, I know that part
feral verge
fresh steeple
I just didn't know whether the reset condition was time-based or action-based
viral solstice
dodging is actually entire fake. there is an owl called reginald who decides if attacks land or not. sometimes hes in a bad mood and says everything misses - this is why players will often exclaim "no reg", short for negative reginald
the more u know
spice veldt
smh not reading patch notes from a few months ago
near wyvern
Deimos excorsist just not as strong as Illisi heavy light spam
spice veldt
that one patch is why I even know the dodge reset timer
fresh steeple
dodging is actually entire fake. there is an owl called reginald who decides if ...
good to know
near wyvern
smh not reading patch notes from a few months ago
You should study them every evening to get that copium going
fresh steeple
wish these other people wouldn't spread misinformation and just cut to the heart of the mechanic
viral solstice
granting them great powers
spice veldt
press x to move to another piece of cover
viral solstice
proper elbow
Now that psyker has so many damage buffs how is just Antax V with the big damage blessings?
feral verge
10 stamina
spice veldt
smh not 13?
spice veldt
oh you mean 10 additional
near wyvern
Kek
spice veldt
counting was too hard for my brain
near wyvern
Ready to take on that Daemonhost
feral verge
ik illisi is better for light spam exorcist
viral solstice
u boutta camp next to her and become the fuckin daemonguest
feral verge
but i like the meme of being a fast dodgy tank too
near wyvern
ik illisi is better for light spam exorcist
You want to heavy light spam it. You get 5% quell for each head hit on the swing after the first one, so that heavy light which is perfectly horizontal quells a lot.
spice veldt
exorcist doesn't seem to proc on every weakspot hit for me
only procs once per swing regardless of the amount of weakspots I hit
feral verge
i forgot about this lol
the 378 that hadron bricked
good thing i didnt want it, just farming for t4s
but damn
lunar hollow
what a sad weapon
i wanna get a gold weapon with two t1 perks and t1 blessings
most useless shit ever
feral verge
meanwhile i got a godroll 300 lol
(close to godroll, but it's amplified to godroll status because its a 300)
lunar hollow
im jealous
every time i get a 300 with one mega dump stat its always like damage or smth
and it completely bricks a weapon
feral verge
wel... there's only 1 way to test this "build" out...
west galleon
okay im booting
feral verge
okay im booting
oh based ill hold off then
west galleon
❤️
late yew
Do you guys think there is way too many psykers recently?
feral verge
Do you guys think there is way too many psykers recently?
you're one of them
late yew
you're one of them
which is why i play zealot lot more
feral verge
you been here since the update, just like the others
west galleon
added
feral verge
@olive ember you coming?
feral verge
ban this guy BAN THIS GUY
@west galleon youl'll have to go online for me to invite you
feral verge
sex
ruby plover
i would simply play whatever tf i want regardlesse of what other people play
idle bay
Meanwhile modders fulfilled dream of many players 🙂
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/106
west galleon
do i want this? im missing like 90 melk bucks
wet belfry
When will psykers be getting this weapon?
spice veldt
monkey's paw: psykers get a blunt staff melee that deals 30 damage on lights and 40 on heavies
west galleon
i want to go on record and say that @feral verge and @olive ember are the actual based people here
you all just got demoted
feral verge
welcome to the drip club homie
west galleon
🙂 now i just need to git gud
feral verge
just play damnation and it'll happen
leaden thunder
pretty much
feral verge
heresy is a trap
damnation is legit easier than heresy because of the players
(most of the time)
leaden thunder
literally had a guy duo a damnation with me
joined in the match mid game
had no downs
people be good sometimes
late yew
you been here since the update, just like the others
not, i was here before update
viral solstice
feral verge
not, i was here before update
i meant that you started playing psyker around the time of the update
west galleon
Salty dwarf is a real one, any foxhole player has a kink where they enjoy painful gameplay
feral verge
i remember you asking questions, and watched you grow up to be a level 30 psyker
within this month
west galleon
btw now that i actually compare my current illisi with the one from melk... eh i guess i got excited by the base level
vestal raven
Does AB give warp charge generation even without casting ur skill?
like if i just use the flame staff i can get charges?
feral verge
like if i just use the flame staff i can get charges?
yes
even if another psyker is using purga staff (or soulblaze feats)
vestal raven
ty
feral verge
i live at high peril for max damage and toughness regen from quietitude
normally i'd pick kinetic deflection, but i think kinetic shield is worth it if you consistently stay above 60% peril
ideally you stay at 80% or higher
the lower the warp resist on your sword, the better/easier it is to stay at high peril
feral verge
i've played with every staff extensively (except surge, i ahvent touched that since december)
and this is by far my most powerful build
my other staves are decent too, i got close to godrolls on all of them
so its not just my godroll purga staff carrying me
vestal raven
we have very similar flame staffs
feral verge
yeah tbh once you put warp 4 o nthat
your staff is better than mine
i wish mine had flak on it
but unarmored isnt bad at all
vestal raven
kills the trash even faster
west galleon
how are you getting all those t4 blessings, im trying but i only got t3s at best :S
feral verge
how are you getting all those t4 blessings, im trying but i only got t3s at best...
i wish i knew where i got this staff
its just luck
west galleon
ah if thats the truth i just used up mine for the foreseeable future
feral verge
for force sword tho, i had to farm hard for t4s
and even then
i dont have any t4s that i want on force sword
despite spending over 50k plasteel lmfao
i didnt want any of these
west galleon
i may have compulsively turned a few staffs to shit because i put shitty blessings on them
feral verge
but got them all from trying to get unstable power 4
the only one i was intereted in was exorcist 4 though
vestal raven
i didnt want any of these
give me that damn sword
vestal raven
i bet, but to stack that with wild fire would just be fun on its own lol
vestal raven
the more red the better
river sand
still missing t4 blazing and slaughterer
vestal raven
my babies
feral verge
i have been trying to get unstable power 4 for over a month or so
river sand
and i just cant decide between illisi and deimos, that deimos 2nd heavy ... its just sooo great to stab the charging mutie to death with that thing
feral verge
and i just cant decide between illisi and deimos, that deimos 2nd heavy ... its ...
that's my favorite thing in the game
legit lol
river sand
but chopping through the horde is nice as well, i like that nice and quick special that doesnt lock you in a freakin long animation
river sand
Worth saving or nah?
its pretty nice, get rid of crit and blazing
feral verge
blazing for slaughter or unstable power
crit chance for flak damage, or maybe unyielding for bosses
vestal raven
gotcha
feral verge
i prefer unstable power because i can choose exactly when i get the power boost
feral verge
slaughterer is better dmg, but i like being in control
river sand
on deimos both is good
river sand
you usually pull the deimos out only for single elites or a random poxwalker, so you wont stack slaughterer so much anyway
shy fiber
I'll just swap blazing spirit with deflector then
feral verge
yeah exactly
that's the one issue with my deimos
it has 65% warp resist
i wish it was lower
way lower
like 40%
shy fiber
i'd put slaughterer or unstable on it
what perks would you recommend replacing
river sand
im using that atm
late yew
warp resist does not matter anyway
feral verge
warp resist does not matter anyway
yes it does
for my build
the lower, the better
means higher peril generation, which means it's way faster/easier to reach high peril for the following: kinetic shield, unstable power, warp nexus, quietitude, warp unleashed
it definitely matters
twilit flicker
You think it's worth trying for a crit deimos?
twilit flicker
What about the knife? It's got higher crit chance, I guess the damage just isn't worth it?
feral verge
i forgot about knife
but knife is a meme anyway
nothing dies
one of my favorite things tbh is to approach a knife zealot who's slowly, pathetically wittling down a horde
sweating, try harding
dodging, weaving
spice veldt
the knife has good single-target DPS but nothing else beyond that
feral verge
and just destory the horde with one hit, with an illisi
twilit flicker
Shmoovin'
muted silo
Knife actually slaps with the right rolls, warp charges effect bleeds
late yew
I want to get warp nexus no point in upgrading the stuff further right?
feral verge
yeah youre not gonna get a high tier of warp nexus out of it
vestal raven
yeah youre not gonna get a high tier of warp nexus out of it
fire build is so fucking fun
fresh reef
Is quell speed pretty much the universal dump stat after the buffs?
olive ember
ehhhh
I mean for the staff above
he could just swap out the warp nexus for like
literally anything else
and then continue building and hope he gets warp nexus again
spice veldt
eh, I like quell speed especially as a quietude user
spice veldt
the scaling is from -33% to 100% quell speed, though it scales nonlinearly with the stat
rare furnace
THEY TOOK DEFLECTOR OFF
river sand
on void charge speed doesnt matter so much as well cause the complete range from 0-100 is just 0.3 seconds difference. on trauma on the other hand its 1.5 sec so there you would notice it
viral solstice
THEY TOOK DEFLECTOR OFF
noobs its time to face ur problems instead of telling jokes all the time, deflection isnt a long term strategy, its painful but this will be personal growth
spice veldt
same for surge scaling from 2.7 seconds to 1.8, though you're not often charging it anyways
west galleon
i'll be honest
rare furnace
noobs its time to face ur problems instead of telling jokes all the time, deflec...
Bro now that’s big nerf
west galleon
if i am in a situation where i actually need deflector im fucked anyways
rare furnace
Didn’t even read it in notes
viral solstice
actually u know what u could do
leaden thunder
this time it was actualyl a fix
viral solstice
what im about to show u is highly illegal
spice veldt
well if you're only using deflector as a purely defensive tool
leaden thunder
and everyone knew it was gonna be a fix
viral solstice
this pistol isnt real
and cannot hurt u
but imagine being immune to ranged damage
while actually doing something
rare furnace
I mean I face tank a sniper
And just got claped
Like I don’t want the actual blessing..
viral solstice
it really do be warp ammo
rare furnace
Take of mind in motion and make it permanent deflector
Remove mind in motion for deflecotr
river sand
deflector is nice to have. but there arent that many options either, so its totally fine to run deflector with slaughterer on illisi and unstable on deimos for example
west galleon
Remove mind in motion for deflecotr
i think this can work
rare furnace
deflector is nice to have. but there arent that many options either, so its tota...
Well ilisi had it build in and I did super big dmg and blockedbullets
But now it’s gone
Like days gone
river sand
Well ilisi had it build in and I did super big dmg and blockedbullets
yeah and everybody knew it was a bug and will get fixed
rare furnace
I hoped for another week or month
west galleon
like everything i show affection towards
west galleon
it leaves without goodbye or some bs excuse like "its me, not you"
rare furnace
Ok I’ll learn to dodge again
viral solstice
unbind ur block key
bind ur chat key
and when u die just flame ur team
its the meta strat
doesnt protect ur character
but it protects u emotionally
the most powerful shield of all
rare furnace
Hahah it was a meta much needed
spice veldt
good thing I have chat block then
leaden thunder
big brain time
rare furnace
I mean my bullet block is just ult to shake em and to regain toughness from quell simple and reliable
west galleon
i need to not have jump and dodge on the same key
viral solstice
good thing I have chat block then
my new strategy is to just sit on an emotional support crate
nobody can hurt me
spice veldt
i need to not have jump and dodge on the same key
i have my dodge bound to shift (same as sprint), but I hope you have a very strong pinky
fresh steeple
in what world does a person think that built-in Blessing effects on only 2 of the 3 Force Swords was an actual intentional design choice instead of a bug?
viral solstice
to be fair
it is quite reasonably to look at the choices fatshark made and see only a swirling maw of chaos
and simply give up trying to understand anything
there are no rules
no gods no masters
west galleon
i have my dodge bound to shift (same as sprint), but I hope you have a very stro...
thats my issue, i trained my WASD fingers too hard
and the rest withered
rare furnace
Any worth blessing for flamer
viral solstice
do u know what they did with the blessing whose tooltip said it was damage
rare furnace
Other than terror
viral solstice
on devil claw
for 3 months
that they patched
to say they doubled how much damage it added
last patch they changed the tooltip to stagger
🙂
spice veldt
warp nexus, warp flurry, focused
viral solstice
sometimes with the fat shark
spice veldt
:D
viral solstice
u simply must let the shark shark
that makes the devil claw the weapon with the most impact blessings btw
feral verge
terrifying barrage is useless
surge and purga already supress enemies
put warp flurry on that thing
feral verge
lets you charge up the staff without being interrupted by stagger
spice veldt
e.g., from being shot or hit by melee
feral verge
but that is if you are in bad positioning and bad positioning is... bad
rare furnace
Ok
feral verge
unless you like to play extremely aggressive
spice veldt
and bad positions are sometimes the best way to finish a map quickly
rare furnace
I always dodge and flame so no need for it
feral verge
which i dont reccomend for ppl new to psyker
sharp shoal
psyker takes a lot of ammo on damnation to be viable with guns
spice veldt
if you're straight up using guns the majority of the time and trying to shoehorn their usage in situations where melee would work
sure
clear heath
but that is if you are in bad positioning and bad positioning is... bad
being stagger immune for an attack might be a good way of getting out of a bad position tho
i'd still rather have other blessings but
i wouldn't mind having it
west galleon
I wonder if there are people that run with the lowest gear possible
A hardcore run if you will
viral solstice
I wonder if there are people that run with the lowest gear possible
i do that
but instead of having the lowest gear possible
i just use the lowest iq possible
the other variable
west galleon
I want to try and level up a char but to not upgrade anything but the weapons
No feats too
viral solstice
isnt that just playing camo
west galleon
I think thats dumb though but thats also why i want to try
viral solstice
u simply vanish
west galleon
Hmm
spice veldt
you can turn off a feat by right-clicking it
blazing oak
In your opinion, what is the worst melee weapon in the game
sharp shoal
So purg is still good?
west galleon
you can turn off a feat by right-clicking it
I learned something, thank you sibling
feral verge
So purg is still good?
Yes
Only flak damage was nerfed. From 2x the DMG to 1x the DMG
It's inconvenient but not ruined or bad
viral solstice
In your opinion, what is the worst melee weapon in the game
archetype or model
spice veldt
if we're comparing between other melee weapons and ignoring ranged weapons to cover their weaknesses, then duelling swords are my pick for the worst melee
clear heath
devils claw
feral verge
hi 5 damn with atleast 1 flamer zealot
i was running my purga + AB build
did plenty of dmg
purga is fine
(im Mai)
sharp shoal
So warp flurry on purg?
olive ember
It's inconvenient but not ruined or bad
For purge*
feral verge
They dont have to be diff
sharp shoal
Deimos is better for single targets
feral verge
Ik
Deimos is good for single target, decent horde clear. Illisi is good for horde clear, decent for single targets
It's not necessarily one or the other
north cradle
Deimos is fairly good at horde clear too, but not horde control
viral solstice
power swords. they cause terrible damage to the user and most have to be put down after only a few weeks of use
theres not much we can do, most vets simply must be let go at this point
blazing oak
Power sword damage doesn’t mix well with cadia trauma
viral solstice
north cradle
Are Power Swords like super radioactive
blazing oak
But worst melee weapon in your opinion that isn’t the power sword?
viral solstice
non meme answer is probably crusher for zealot because its badly designed and one-dimensional, unhealthy for the game if its strong and boring as fuck as well as only having 4 blessings
blazing oak
Crusher?
viral solstice
the power maul, human size edition
blazing oak
Alright
spice veldt
duelling swords, since they only have mobility and block
viral solstice
the one that does shit damage, has 1 usable blessing and whose only play pattern is special light to do aoe knockdown and suppression in a 20mile radius
feral verge
But worst melee weapon in your opinion that isn’t the power sword?
Shield
viral solstice
duelling swords have movetech and more than one usable attack, so they win (plus style points)
o ye shield is a contender, but i think shield is conceptually salvageable
spice veldt
moving is for losers
viral solstice
crusher needs to be redesigned
in raw power terms, design aside, devil claws probably miss the mark the hardest
blazing oak
Just needed to make sure I was right before I went on to convince someone that the chaxe is not the widely considered worst melee
spice veldt
go get 'em
fresh steeple
I agree with Crab
Devil Claws have no direction and are generally very overwhelming
viral solstice
i think chainaxe is viewed as being clunky and awful to play if stuff like being animation locked or camera control being yoinked bothers u
fresh steeple
they're so not good that nobody even talks about how not good they are
fresh steeple
but in terms of a weapon that just fails to do what it's designed to do, Crusher is way up there
viral solstice
this is an unpowered power sword VI vs an SS4 Rampage4 370 rating dc7
leaden thunder
it ccs goddamn everything
viral solstice
yeah crusher does its job, i just think its a terrible job, the blessings and play pattern are awful, and if it ever becomes meta it will be because it is degenerate as fuck
fresh steeple
it's supposed to do CC and damage. You don't win the game with just CC. I think a weapon fails if it can't output any meaningful damage
viral solstice
thats just an awful weapon to have in ur game
blazing oak
Tried it when I first made a zealot, but it was boring and I dropped it
fresh steeple
I think Mk II dueling sword has a really bad attack pattern compared to IV and V, but duelling swords in general are okay
though definitely outclassed atm by our nice new force swords
leaden thunder
I mean is it really supposed to kill
viral solstice
if all u do is light special - and its borderline overpowered at aoe cc - and still nobody uses it, u have a timebomb on ur hands
leaden thunder
as wierd as that sounds
viral solstice
revers it
fresh steeple
I mean is it really supposed to kill
even Surge staff can kill things
spice veldt
oh now I see where someone said chaxes were the worst
viral solstice
if it doesnt kill, that means its variable output is cc level. how do u maximise cc? u spam light special
fresh steeple
so yes, I think weapons with primary CC should still be able to actually kill things
blazing oak
oh now I see where someone said chaxes were the worst
Is it the how would you buff chain weapons post?
viral solstice
so u have a weapon whose optimal output is both degenerate and braindead
spice veldt
Is it the how would you buff chain weapons post?
ye
clear heath
Ogryn Pmaul is what zealot crusher would look like if they actually tried to make a well rounded weapon
viral solstice
AND its blessings are like...
oh yeah btw guess which weapon has the most stagger/impact blessings
spice veldt
duelling swords having only at most 2 cleave on their normals really kills it for me
clear heath
special isn't as spammable, non-special attacks are actually enough damage to be useful
leaden thunder
paul is great ye
viral solstice
thats right baby its the devil claw with trauma, vicious slice, hammerblow AND thunderstrike all being impact/stagger blessings
clear heath
you actually have a moveset there instead of just special light
leaden thunder
if you really want to be fancy and aren't using the special for single target
leaden thunder
on the paul
you can block cancel the first 2 lights
so like it has an actual moveset
tall temple
thats right baby its the devil claw with trauma, vicious slice, hammerblow AND t...
what website is this
viral solstice
spice veldt
though the interface of the website is a bit unintuitive at first
tall temple
thanks
ruby plover
crusher makes me sad
cuz the moveset is actually cool
but it still feels way too zdps with them blessings
they should nerf the shit out of the special but then make it last 3 attacks
that would be fun
tropic scarab
Anyone got the pics of the datamined subclasses?
gilded viper
It just need damage blessing and not all impact for a already heavy impact weapon
blazing oak
Speaking of data mining, is the two handed chainaxe in the files
tropic scarab
Hmmmm?
Saw something about them in Ogryn chat yesterday, but wanted a better look at it.
fresh steeple
I haven't seen anything about it. Would certainly like to
tropic scarab
Thank you.
fresh steeple
hmm. neat
leaden thunder
well
the power greatsword was able to be sorta equiped with the randomizer mod or something
so we may still get the force one
sharp shoal
Fair
rare furnace
Heavy ilisi when?😂
fallow dawn
got this from emperor
sharp shoal
Horrible og triggered the host on purpose
rich rose
Not the best but the best I have so far
sharp shoal
Doesn't psyker already suppress enemies
rare furnace
Flame does
lilac tapir
this used to be a grey base I got from a mission, look what Hadron did to it....
potent glade
is run n gun any good on the purgatus
potent glade
I use deflector on everything I can
sharp shoal
Is flak and unyielding good
potent glade
flak is good probably change unyielding to maniac if u can
feral verge
Not the best but the best I have so far
Terrifying barrage is worthless
sharp shoal
Flak maniac deflect 3
potent glade
all u need now is slaughterer and ur set
sharp shoal
Cool
random spruce
Im so sad, I came back to play some psyker cause I heard it has improved and I still feel like Im relegated to a support class roll and I hate it. It feels like an utter challenge to clutch anything. Im watching literally every other class tear through everything and its utterly frustrating. The Purgatus build feels relatively good, but if Im the last alive and run into a horde of ranged, gg. If I take the voidstrike I feel marginally better against ranged, but the dps is sorta low since you have to charge more than half everytime to get the damage bonus. Im honestly at a loss for if there is anything viable other than I stun everyone so my team mates can have fun and slay
spice veldt
use melee
it's a shame we have no ranged burst DPS force staff, but our melees are quite good now
primal radish
you have unlimited dodges and blocking from feats/deflector. you can reposition anywhere
random spruce
it's a shame we have no ranged burst DPS force staff, but our melees are quite g...
thats kind of what Im talking about though. The whole class fantasy of a psyker feels like it should be space magic man. I want to sling spells and blow up heads. Mages are like THE dps class in so many games, yet here I have to play discount zealot if I want to do damage and be helpful?
clear heath
brain burst is actually pretty nice now too
sharp shoal
Exactly
autumn moth
if everything is just getting plinked from a distance before you can haha wizard it then difficulty too low
clear heath
6 charged and warp unleashed with some peril can 2 shot crushers
Actually a pretty good elite killer now
ember sentinel
how important do you guys think charge rate is on trauma staff? I have a near perfect roll on one and want to try it but charge rate is only 50%
everything else is like 78
leaden thunder
very
ember sentinel
sad
everytime i get a new staff i wanna try out it has one insanely low stat that just kills it
fallow dawn
th emperor is up to something
unreal dust
So I've been playing with Wildfire more after the patch. I'm kind of digging it...
gilded viper
Did I got @ ed?
viral solstice
thats kind of what Im talking about though. The whole class fantasy of a psyker ...
to be fair u get to do force push and magic sword wiggle so its a lil bit gandalf
spice veldt
no idea, but you can check messages that replied to you or @ed at you from direct messages > inbox > mentions
viral solstice
but they will buff the staves eventualliy
random spruce
but they will buff the staves eventualliy
eventually TM
gilded viper
It empty, which is werid since I got a notification on my phone from this chat
viral solstice
partly because rn they have like 1 functional blessing each
or 2
so even just the fixes to warp flurry were a significant improvement
gilded viper
Tho the recon gun is super nice, suck for the damage stats but u missing like what, 10dmg from 80%
Wait nvm thinking of vld numbers
wheat olive
Just to confirm, are Block Efficiency and "reduced block cost" the same?
As in, 20% block efficiency is the same as block cost reduced by 20%?
vestal raven
i would assume so
fresh steeple
I feel like I was being trolled by myt last team
I tell them I can tank the Daemonhost
and I can
IF they fucking actually kill it
vestal raven
pub moment
fresh steeple
we start the fight, one guy immediately goes afk
then the other two just stand there and basically watch
I tanked it for almost five minutes
we had actual waves of specialists spawning
and I finally got stuck in a corner trying to dodge them
the other psyker suicides to a poxburster
and then the two remaining guys for some bizarre reason split up in different directions as they move toward us and die
actual clownshow
nimble burrow
how does surge calculate damage against mobs with different part types
viral solstice
⚡ 
⚡
a wizard dida it
(probably uses the root node armour type, like an explosion)
worn bolt
what stats/blessings should I go for on this? never used trauma staff before
if anyone knows
wheat olive
Do you mostly use it for horde clear, elites, or all around?
I have a purge staff and since I use it for horde clear, I made sure it had the damage bonus to infested and unarmored enemy types
Also, Warp Flurry is a fantastic blessing
glossy escarp
what stats/blessings should I go for on this? never used trauma staff before
I'd swap out "transfer peril" since you're not very likely to get headshots with the trauma staff
Unless you're primary firing it lol
worn bolt
Do you mostly use it for horde clear, elites, or all around?
its probably gonna be all around/cc/horde clear
worn bolt
I have an illi so im not too concerned about horde clear
pearl lion
Oh yeah so I saw a psyker using a recon las and an axe. Now I am not an expert on either of those weapons, but it doesn't seem like a good loadout to me
glossy escarp
Warp flurry, rending shockwave and focused channeling are the best ones I know of for trauma
worn bolt
Oh yeah so I saw a psyker using a recon las and an axe. Now I am not an expert o...
probably jsut to style on people
spice veldt
i'd go for an anti-shooter trauma with +flak and +unarmoured then
glossy escarp
^
runic hornet
axe is good
pearl lion
Right, well, they were not doing well
spice veldt
i'm so glad to receive such a quick agreement
glossy escarp
That or they're running psychic communion for charges with ascendant blaze and wildfire
For hordeclear
worn bolt
pearl lion
It was genuinely quite funny cause they weren't BBing specials and no one had long range weapons so I (on my zealot) kept having to dive deep to tie up gunners and one of the other party members kept being like "Hey, uhhh do you wanna come join us?"
worn bolt
i'd go for an anti-shooter trauma with +flak and +unarmoured then
well ive got these so I can only get one of the two, I assume keep maniac
spice veldt
i kinda want you to keep elites but the bonus is also quite meh at the same time
edgy lotus
what are good blessings for force staff, except warp nexus?
spice veldt
since maniacs are mostly specialists that usually come within melee range
worn bolt
fair
spice veldt
it could go either way, but my preference leans towards keeping +elites
worn bolt
I Do have this tho
worn bolt
yes, barrage
spice veldt
I'd say that terrifying barrage is not too useful since the outer area of the trauma staff interrupts every human-sized enemy that's not an elite or specialist
but it's more useful than transfer peril
runic hornet
the only thing terrifiny barrage will do
is suppress slightly more when you kill someone with a LMB shot up close
even a partial charge of RMB will already flinch everything
worn bolt
well these are both mid so im just wondering which im trying to get rid of and for what
runic hornet
i'd get rid of transfer peril for either crit, charge rate, or interrupt-immunity blessing
spice veldt
Trauma's RMB can't hit weakspots unless you proc Kinetic Flayer, so that's the blessing to get rid of
runic hornet
interrupt immunity blessing is actually really useful
if you're charging a full RMB against a shooter squad
worn bolt
which was that one again?
runic hornet
but then they shoot you earlier than you think they will
spice veldt
Warp Flurry, Rending Shockwave, or Focused Channeling are my options
runic hornet
you won't drop your charge and the nget deleted 0.2 seconds later
worn bolt
this staff has relatively low charge rate so would be useful;
spice veldt
trauma staff is the fastest charging staff once you've got an 80% charge rate
which you unfortunately don't have
worn bolt
eh, best one I got from brunt and im sick of waiting
spice veldt
either blessings could work, though I would prefer having Focused Channeling first; but that's only because I use my trauma for the stagger, killing shooters, and nothing else in particular
worn bolt
yeah, gonna see what I can do with this one to get a feel for it then probably go for a better roll
ember sentinel
assuming this staff is worth upgrading, what blessings should i be looking for on it?
humble star
Finally got around to playing wrack and ruin... It feels terrible now 
ember sentinel
which one is that?
spice veldt
bottom lvl10 feat
ember sentinel
oh yeah
worn bolt
+carapace worth taking on trauma? or should I just rr till I get flak
ember sentinel
i much prefer warp unleashed, but i havent tried a soulblaze build yet
humble star
+carapace worth taking on trauma? or should I just rr till I get flak
I'd simply just BB carapace
worn bolt
i much prefer warp unleashed, but i havent tried a soulblaze build yet
warp unleashed is just really really good
spice veldt
maybe if you tend to encounter groups of crushers
humble star
i much prefer warp unleashed, but i havent tried a soulblaze build yet
Well don't start now
spice veldt
but that's usually a rare situation, and it's good enough to just stagger them around
spice veldt
I have Rending Shockwave on my staff so that mitigates the need for Carapace since that pretty much guarantees that my team will do some good damage to carapace
humble star
is it worth using with purg still?
Wrack and ruin? No that feat is never worth using now
nerf hit it with the only place it was useful
ember sentinel
i just meant soulblaze stuff in general
humble star
taking out shooter groups
spice veldt
so +Carapace certainly is a choice for the trauma staff, though it's more of a "if its an existing perk, then I'd be fine with it" thing for me
olive ember
Felt usable for about a month before the soulblaze nerf
Hey man it’s just flak dmg
humble star
i just meant soulblaze stuff in general
Purg is the only thing that can make it work. But it's still a massive nerf against flak. So IDK why you would try it now
olive ember
Cope hard smh
olive ember
Yep
Someone called me dumb for not being particularly enthusiastic that psyker burn got nerfed
And said I was a clown
Etc. etc.
Also said I played uprising
Which isn’t true
I play up to malice
Can’t believe it
sharp shoal
only malice?
humble star
People actually live thinking the purgatus staff was 10x better than the other staves
olive ember
Oh yeah
spice veldt
and it's even worse; Derpy is an econ major, not a clown
sharp shoal
i like the trauma staff
olive ember
The guy made a bold claim that 9/10 players used purge
olive ember
and it's even worse; Derpy is an econ major, not a clown
Cs major first
Then Econ major
And then a business minor
spice veldt
darn
olive ember
I hate my life
humble star
i like the trauma staff
no joke. It's better than the purg IMO
viral solstice
imagine doing an education
spice veldt
idk either
olive ember
I’ll be paying off my debt in my 80s
viral solstice
i would never do an education
sharp shoal
purg you gotta charge
spice veldt
why not both
worn bolt
I cannot get t4 +flak for anything. is it possible? is it really rare or am I just unlucky
viral solstice
no but then u just do the boring drugs like a shitload of addies and modafinil
disgraceful
spice veldt
aren't you a professor Dr crab
fringe garden
I’ll be paying off my debt in my 80s
Lol, as if our financial system wont collapse before you're 80
olive ember
Oh yeah had a friend from high school do shrooms and when I asked why his response was legit “my friends asked me to and I was like why not”
viral solstice
i did not finish my phd so technically i merely have 2 masters
humble star
purg you gotta charge
Oh no, a rager. Knocks them down. Oh no, a burster, oneshots them
viral solstice
sharp shoal
purg just isn't my thing
spice veldt
smh
worn bolt
t4 +flak IS possible right?
sharp shoal
i like trauma and surge
humble star
i did not finish my phd so technically i merely have 2 masters
the double master crabman
viral solstice
one for each claw
worn bolt
or am I wasting my time trying to roll flak till I get t4
viral solstice
olive ember
I cannot get t4 +flak for anything. is it possible? is it really rare or am I ju...
T4 is just fairly rare, get the reroll mod, also just fyi there are screenshots of reroll mod taking 400+ tries to get the desired perk
Get the reroll mod it’ll auto roll for you until you get a desired peek
I rly should do that but
worn bolt
what even is the point if it costs nothing... why cant I just reroll till I get the desired through the game?
olive ember
I can’t be assed to install mods that break after every update kek
fringe garden
Anyone else tried the third person mod? It's kinda neat.
olive ember
what even is the point if it costs nothing... why cant I just reroll till I get ...
It’s because originally the cost was supposed to increase
humble star
reasons
olive ember
That’s why
humble star
FS doesn't want quality of life, You will waste your time
olive ember
If you look back to a patch note way back in like December
The cost of rerolling was supposed to increase
They made the right decision in making it decrease instead but never implemented anything to just let you choose
humble star
if reroll until rarity mod didn't exist, I don't think I would ever even waste time trying
a bandaid on a very half assed system
spice veldt
yeah I never went for t4 perks before the reroll mod
worn bolt
T4 is just fairly rare, get the reroll mod, also just fyi there are screenshots ...
pretty sure im about to break that 400 try record
FUCKING FINALLy
humble star
see that pride and satisfaction after getting the roll? Just as FS intended 
olive ember
see that pride and satisfaction after getting the roll? Just as FS intended <:th...
Um asckshually it’s “pride and accomplishment”
SMH
unreal dust
Why vs Flak? don't you want to one-shot incoming mutants?
olive ember
Honestly I should get the mod and just roll since I’m afk half the time when I’m in darktide
vestal raven
with thrust and good stats u do already
worn bolt
Why vs Flak? don't you want to one-shot incoming mutants?
no, I want to kill shooters, my sword can slice them in half
vestal raven
FUCKING FINALLy
wait is this for the hammer?
worn bolt
wait is this for the hammer?
for a trauma staff
worn bolt
xd
supple skiff
so apparently theres a mod that auto rerolls items for you
olive ember
Does hammer even need maniac to kill mutants?
worn bolt
glad that ordeal left me with a treasure trove of materials
clear heath
so apparently theres a mod that auto rerolls items for you
yeah it's great
supple skiff
glad that ordeal left me with a treasure trove of materials
damn son
clear heath
it has probably saved me like 2000 clicks at this point
supple skiff
flat broke
spice veldt
carpal tunnel begone
supple skiff
Im def going to start using mods
worn bolt
carpal tunnel begone
I had the best finger workout of my life
olive ember
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/30
Ugh nexus mods
Last time I used it was for GTFO
clear heath
I had the best finger workout of my life
but did you get 25% flak?
supple skiff
im mostly worried Id do afk in brain and reroll once I had it
vestal raven
Does hammer even need maniac to kill mutants?
no
worn bolt
do people still play gtfo?
olive ember
Lol um
clear heath
i don't even know what game you're talking about
olive ember
Idk it’s hard to judge because it gets a spike when a rundown comes out
spice veldt
it's their secret way of telling you to get out
olive ember
It’s like darktide
But slower
And jankier
If you like masochism hardcore stealth game
worn bolt
yeah darktide but more or less turtley
olive ember
Try GTFO
unreal dust
As much as I enjoy GTFO, their melee system is even jankier
worn bolt
its pretty funny
unreal dust
Like watching pro-strats, its people just jousting mobs in straight line run bys.
olive ember
As much as I enjoy GTFO, their melee system is even jankier
Nah their melee system is fine for their original intent
It’s just
They then added 20 error alarms per rundown or some shit
worn bolt
first time I played gtfo I injected a random needle and gave myself an stf 10/10
unreal dust
I remember when they first added the error alarm down in E1 of... R2? R3?
olive ember
They make shit more “difficult” by forcing you to play faster
olive ember
I remember when they first added the error alarm down in E1 of... R2? R3?
R2 C level
It was cool as a first time thing
Maybe nice as a once or twice a rundown thing
Not so cool when it’s in every level
Fucking r5
Like I loved was it r4 or r5 A3
Where for PE you needed to activate an error in extreme
And then push into a scout room in overload
And a good I’d say 80% of the time the scouts would double aggro while you are a room away because the enemies would spawn in front and instant aggro the scout
unreal dust
R2 C level
That was it, thanks. I remember loading that up and playing Doom Music. Good times.
olive ember
first time I played gtfo I injected a random needle and gave myself an stf 10/10
Red or yellow
unreal dust
And a good I’d say 80% of the time the scouts would double aggro while you are a...
Yeaaaah. Not long after they added overload, there was the one room with two scouts during Error Alarm for Overload? That shit was so buggy opening the door.
olive ember
And then there’s GTFO bhop
Fml I hated it but then the system they implemented was even worse
unreal dust
Honestly, scouts having any effect in Error:Alarm is just derpy. Its already an alarm state -.-
worn bolt
Red or yellow
dun remember, I only played that game a few times and it was a long time ago, all I remember is I got infected slightly
olive ember
GTFO bhop was jank as shit but then they added stamina into the game
And fml stamina is so shit lmao
unreal dust
And fml stamina is so shit lmao
It really is
olive ember
It’s like
worn bolt
I'm really hoping the trauma staff does this to most stuff
olive ember
Idk imo best rundown is like r6 > r1 > r3> r1 revisited > r2> everything else
olive ember
It won’t kekw
worn bolt
what if I encourage it
spice veldt
it'll do that as long as they're within the epicentre and they're not an elite/special (as long as you've got +unarmoured for those dreg bruisers)
is very nice
olive ember
So trash and only trash
worn bolt
dont have unarmored unfortunately, only + elite and + flak
spice veldt
yes enemies like you
olive ember
pearl lion
Samoyeds are breddy gud
olive ember
Sisters dog when it was a puppy
worn bolt
quite fluffy
olive ember
Yep
supple skiff
man the subreddit is a dumpster fire right now lol
granted its usaully not great but
olive ember
Lmao
lunar hollow
what the fuck man
supple skiff
OH NO
olive ember
Kekw
lunar hollow
the one time i think i get a good psyker-exclusive weapon i fucking click it
AND ITS THIS
olive ember
man the subreddit is a dumpster fire right now lol
Ooo give me them posts
I’ll start
lunar hollow
honestly
olive ember
lunar hollow
im tempted man
i could replace riposte with slaught
and carapace to idk flak or smth
supple skiff
I play my psyker as a frontline BB allstar, couldn't care less what the vets doing
let em have their power sword I say
takes the heat off the illsi
olive ember
Stop comparing it to the psword ffs
Compare it to the claw
Comon we all know how fatshark balancing works
supple skiff
42% is at least half of the stat bar for first target
granted, if you don't have the bloodthirsty blessing in your pool it could be worth just for that. Seems rare, I've never had one show up on anything of mine
lunar hollow
i had it show up on a melk illisi but i was already grinding one
i might grab it just for that
fuck ity
i did
supple skiff
Can't say its a universal experince but my luck with Milk stock has been such that I've been stockpiling the currency cause there's usually nothing worth grabbing. Just as well you grabbed it imo
fresh steeple
that was
by far
the clutchiest game I've ever had
Damnation Assassination. We lacked proper horde clear (the best clear we had was my Trauma) and the mobs started overwhelmign us with only one kit. I went down first, and the others split. Two others fell shortly after, and the last Ogryn up got to me at the res point and ressed me with about 50 HP left
and then he fell
and I managed to push back and hold the entire horde and the boss to res him again
and then the other two
I was down to 0 toughness and about 10 life when I got his res off
a single extra hit and we would have wiped 😛
I'll never even entertain not using KD ever again
worn bolt
well tried out the trauma staff, not much of a fan so far.
olive ember
Lmao
It’s… idk it’s kinda weird
Jank aim not as easy to use
But amazing CC and can horde clear at the same time
cold geode
i really wish they would give us the aiming line they give to actual grenades, it would make aiming easier
worn bolt
I got a question, why are max values for stats 80%? like why even bother putting a % if it never goes to 100
and also, 100% of WHAT
stuck sinew
How's that for min/maxed base stats
lethal folio
Because there is an unused overclockijg mechanic wherd you uptune one stat and downtune the others.
cold geode
its for later tiers of difficulty when they introduce red tier weapons
worn bolt
How's that for min/maxed base stats <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
kek
nah bro you only got 80% gotta keep rolling
stuck sinew
perk and blessing 💀
humble star
Funniest part is that Psyker was given the biggest nerf from the patch IMO Top tier weapon are still top tier for Vet and Preacher
worn bolt
Funniest part is that Psyker was given the biggest nerf from the patch IMO <:KEK...
yep, and the soulblaze nerf wasnt even intentional
lethal folio
Ilisi is nowxthe best melee weapon.
worn bolt
yeah probably
humble star
next on the chopping block?
olive ember
Funniest part is that Psyker was given the biggest nerf from the patch IMO <:KEK...
Yep psyker got biggest nerfs
worn bolt
nah dude cog hammer is the best melee
humble star
Yep psyker got biggest nerfs
But nobody cares because "they were nonmeta builds anyways"
olive ember
I think most psykers are still in the honeymoon omg finally I love this weapon phase
So next weapon on the chopping block is prob antax
olive ember
People are complaining about infinite cleave from BM
humble star
If antax dies reddit will explode
nimble burrow
i could be running with a rock and a slingshot on a stick and be happy playing psyker after they did all that "quality of life" the other patch
olive ember
Lmao the vets will actually resort to shovel kekw
stuck sinew
I feel like they need to buff the dumpster tier weapons first
olive ember
Probably
stuck sinew
Shovel is based 
leaden thunder
claw sword still being worse then the power sword
worn bolt
knowing fatshark they will overbuff shovel as a meme and it will be the BiS for a while
olive ember
Idk cuz the claw will never be amazing imo otherwise it’ll just he a hsword
So
Prob buff chainsword and shovel and all those not complete shit weapon
humble star
I feel like they need to buff the dumpster tier weapons first
claw sword almost does as much damage as uncharged powersword with slaughterer
stuck sinew
Claw is the most lukewarm weapon ever
olive ember
Does less than an uncharged psword last I checked
stuck sinew
you probably won't struggle that bad with it but man everything else is so much better
leaden thunder
uncharged power sword is like 90? damage
worn bolt
devil sword when you use it and realise it is the most mid weapon known to man
leaden thunder
without sluaght
humble star
I never specified how close "almost" was
worn bolt
CBT? uh oh, not a good place for a sword, it hurts jsut thinking about it
leaden thunder
I am sure it was CBT to have that be the best horde clear
stuck sinew
Tbh I don't think I even went above malice in CBT
olive ember
SMH what a CASUAL
humble star
my understanding of what CBT means might be different from what you think it means 
olive ember
Closed beta test
stuck sinew
Cognitive behavioural therapy
worn bolt
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stuck sinew
humble star
Cock and ball torture From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia at en.wikipedia.org
I love CBT
Is it lore friendly for Ogryn to get brass knuckles?
gilded viper
wait we talking about CBT 🎊
rare furnace
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Nice cocktail 🍸
worn bolt
Nice cocktail 🍸
I'm not a cock, I'm a chicken.
olive ember
I fucking hate the ogryn clubs
Like I’m starting to debate if I actually hate them more than shields
They don’t do anything besides knock poxwalkers all over the place… atleast a shield can like… get shot at
deft gorge
so shock staff is big boom now?
olive ember
Uh
Well it’s easier to use now that illisi can cover its weaknesses
Objectively speaking it’s still the weakest of the 4 staves
But
Surge staff is best staff in my heart
fierce sinew
its utility against shooters is probably slightly more relevant now
both because deflector is back to not being free and ABing them out of existence is less free than before
stuck sinew
The recent peril buffs made it more tolerable too
cyan portal
Surge depends on your team to do work, I think. It is a hard weapon to carry with (for me), but with good teammates it makes runs very safe and comfortable.
olive ember
surge is def not a carry weapon
its value is most noticeable the harder the difficulty
so damnation, hi 5, hi 5 shock
gloomy yarrow
asside from warp flurry what are good blessings for purgatus staff
olive ember
heresy its nice
malice and below surge staff just kinda sucks
@gloomy yarrow warp nexus
heresy surge staff nice because it gives your garbo teammates more room to not die
ofc once they are dead it becomes a shitshow all the same
cyan portal
I think generally the best builds scale up with increased threat. Purga def the most fun to play in hi5+. In low5 there aren't enough things dying to give you warp charges.
spice veldt
i'd probably like surge since I don't swap away from my melee 99% of the tiime
worn bolt
shock seems to perform really well recently
spice veldt
too bad it doesn't have a panic mode like trauma does
worn bolt
that being nuke your feet? xd
spice veldt
yup
olive ember
don't listen to arcotash
hes a staff traitor
a few months ago all he used was voidstrike
smh smh
spice veldt
i only used it for like 20 hours, then decided that it was shit
then just used the purg for 200 hours
then decided that was boring and was a bit meh against shooters
then used the trauma staff forever until the end of time
fierce sinew
its value is most noticeable the harder the difficulty
hard disagree here
olive ember
you think surge is better on malice than on damnation?
fierce sinew
the problem with surge is the taget limit, hi 5 shock troops and sometimes hi 5 in general there's more sutff you want to stun than you have stuns
or the horde is too thick and steals some
olive ember
I mean thats if your team is bad and can't clear horde for shit
fierce sinew
I think it's less about the difficulty and more the mod
olive ember
at which point surge is bad no matter what
fierce sinew
it scales badly with more enemies
olive ember
imo on hi 5 shock its the most valuable, cuz thats when they like to spawn waves of mutants bomber bursters hounds trappers
worn bolt
good thing we have an illi now XD
worn bolt
imo on hi 5 shock its the most valuable, cuz thats when they like to spawn waves...
surge staff has saved extermination missions because of double or triple mutant spawns