psyker-class

[ruby plover]

5 minutes later:

wrong channel i guess

[feral verge]

I agree

[graceful aurora]

Brothers I have turned away from the Surge, for I was told the Purge was mighty. Hope might I pimp this cane?

[feral verge]

You want warp flurry and warp nexus for blessings

Crit chance and flak for perks

Burn and cloud radius are the most important stats

You want burn to be atleast 76%

[steel solstice]

Burn got nerfed in recent patch, right?

[feral verge]

Vs flak

It's inconvenient but not the end of the world

[steel solstice]

aka vs most things damnation

[feral verge]

It used to be 2x damage now it's 1x damage

Any staff is better than surge

[steel solstice]

Voidstrike feels weak on damnation atm

or I'm missing blessings

[feral verge]

Better than surge

Void needs transfer peril and warp flurry

[rocky cedar]

That reminds me

There was a patch note about crits and burns

Did we work out what was actually changed with that note?

[feral verge]

I believe Pygex told me that apparently crits weren't activating on purga/flamer

[ornate hamlet]

i just played a psyker match with the third person mod

[feral verge]

And now they are

[ornate hamlet]

pretty funky

[feral verge]

So it's a buff afaik

[ornate hamlet]

also shows how good their third person animations are

[rocky cedar]

Yeah this note

[rocky cedar]

Oh ok

So no change to going for crit chance perk on purg

The way I originally read that I assumed double stack on crit had been removed

[feral verge]

Damn imagine if it was

[ornate hamlet]

brooooooooo bots can trigger daemonhosts with their pathfinding

why is fatshark

[late yew]

i wish killing them gave you something

[cyan notch]

+1 monstrosity killed on contract

[autumn moth]

pissing them off just to flex on them in public

[harsh gust]

lotta

[potent glade]

Ive been playing that for the last few days, do u have the crosshair mod too?

[ornate hamlet]

i got both crosshair mods that the mod suggested and was crashing in the psykanium

i enabled the custom crosshairs only and stopped crashing, now ill try dynamic crosshairs enabled too

[potent glade]

u just need the crosshair remap one

[ornate hamlet]

though i probably will stick to the wildlands camera style

third person for most stuff, first person aiming

either that or the centered first person aiming, which i found particularly pleasing because its just the crosshair instead of a blocky sight

i find it much easier to hit enemies when there isnt a huge gun kicking on my face

i guess it also helps it zooms a bit less

i remapped the crosshairs to nothing on hipfire

honestly i wish i had the fallout 3 weapon zoom instead of sights

it just is so much better for visibility

[lilac tapir]

Hey guys, any recommendations if I should grab this for 2.6k melks and what rerolls should I do?? I don't have a Deimos yet (was focusing on Illisi since patch) but would like to try one out and this one seems to be a good candidate?

[cyan notch]

absolutely

[feral verge]

I wouldn't buy a wep with t3 blessings from melk

Unless it was a perfect godroll otherwise

[cyan notch]

id change carapace to maniac

then swap riposte with unstable or deflector or whatever

[lilac tapir]

Thanks. I don't mind spending melks, I have almost 7k again since nothing good was on the shop for me for a while. I do have Tier 4 deflector but rarely use it, so in this case it would be Unstable I guess 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

i just spent on a t3 blessing because i cba to keep farming that shit

[feral verge]

T3 blessings are given out like candy

[lilac tapir]

I was wondering if it's worth keeping Carapace and rerolling the Specials perk to Maniac or Flak since I think some folks said it can destroy Ogryn type enemies and those are usually Carapace? Or am I confusing things.

[cyan notch]

only crusher is carapace

and mauler head but dont hit that

the other 2 ogryns are unyielding

[lilac tapir]

alright, so Carapace seems very niche then

[cyan notch]

yeah and you can already 2 shot them with your special and some small buffs

[lucid olive]

I was buying grey force swords and upgrading them to fish for a slaughter blessing, only to find I had an emperor's gift with one sitting in my inventory for a few days and I hadn't noticed

[viral solstice]

im carapace

but crab is friend

[rocky cedar]

Yes but not necessarily the one you actually want

I've spent gross amounts of plasteel trying to get both no respite and full bore in my shotgun blessing library. Game has said no so far

[limber silo]

pulls out a bolter and turns you in Red Lobster's new Crab Splatter Supreme for only 29.99 at Red Lobster

One of the most satisfying thing imo is just obliterating everything with a bolter, especially ogryns

[idle bay]

I wonder what Power blessing is better for ANthax MK V? Headtaker or Decimator ?

[viral solstice]

decimator, number twice as big

and with bm u instant stack so it funny

[lucid olive]

bm?

brutal momentum?

[viral solstice]

yee

sorry

too much gamer juice

[long osprey]

But decimator you lose it once the chain stops while head taker you can keep it a couple seconds

Enough to run and continue

[idle bay]

Then i have nearly finished axe 🙂 Just need to reroll sprint to flack

[viral solstice]

noice

ye but decimator is just many damages

big number funny

[idle bay]

69 in PENETRATION so it's double nice

How childish of old me... 🙂

[viral solstice]

no thats the weed number

objectively funny

[cyan notch]

midimator

[twilit flicker]

Decimid

[viral solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1093075464614051840/image.png

[vale creek]

why i see this pic on multiple channels

[twilit flicker]

Is it really terrible? It only gives stagger to one guy?

[viral solstice]

what it said last patch

was "damage"

i reported it

they fixed the tooltip

not the blessing

[vale creek]

ok

congrats

[left briar]

why do i keep getting these terrible pistol psykers on my team?

i know it's a good gun for psyker, but chances are the pistol psykers SUCK

run out of ammo within 5 minutes because it's all they use

we have 2 non-ammo psykers on the team and he still runs out of ammo

that's how bad his ammo management is

[tired estuary]

This game needs voicelines for nerds who keep running out of ammo

[still hearth]

Meanwhile I get Surge Psykers and watch them do nothing the whole game

[novel knot]

🙂

[fringe tangle]

That wasn't a Psyker, that was clearly a weirdboi with how much dakka he was putting downrange

[left briar]

and why is it when i play psyker, i get more psyker teammates? LIke bro i dont want more psykers, i want more ogryns or somethin

BRogryns

[fringe tangle]

All Psyker teams are horrible to play, they're too squishy and don't work as well as all Chadgryn teams.

[spiral escarp]

BROgryns

[still hearth]

All Psykers can just

Keep anything from touching them

[left briar]

im also seeing a lot more psykers this new patch. Are zealot flamers transitioning to psyker flamer?

[still hearth]

Zealots have been transitioning to Psyker for a while now

[fringe tangle]

Average Ogryn Player

[still hearth]

Its the class that actually gets love

And new fun weapons

And Vet sucks

So where else are Zealot gonna go

Don't say Ogryn they aren't real

[cyan notch]

stay on zealot idk

[ornate hamlet]

[steel egret]

Void staff psykers who fire one bolt a minute.

[leaden thunder]

smh

not enough ops

orbs per second

[viral solstice]

its called aiming, and its trending

[steel egret]

Maybe its a controller thing

[lucid olive]

it seems like matchmaking like to group classes, having 3 the same occurs really often

[cyan portal]

Well rip. The nerf to Pyskers Soulblaze was indeed intended. https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/soulblaze-now-doing-half-damage-against-flak/77942

[deep oxide]

I feel like a simple thing to do is just make soulblaze apply more stacks onto enemies.

[left briar]

is bloodthirsty bad?

[deep oxide]

To me, especially without 6 charges, its really lackluster now.

[twilit badger]

Bloodthirsty on Illisi seems quite good

[left briar]

is illsi just powersword light?

[deep oxide]

I think its considered better atm.

[twilit badger]

Better than PS

[left briar]

prepatch PS

[deep oxide]

It was comparable even before the nerfs.

[olive ember]

Bloodthirsty is

well it got nerfed

[deep oxide]

especially becaue you didn't need power cycler.

[twilit badger]

I mean tbh Illisi deletes hordes without powering up

[olive ember]

but its still decent on the illisi

[twilit badger]

Oh no

What got nerfed?

[olive ember]

oh no not this patch

last patch

[deep oxide]

Blood thirsty uh only applies to one attack now

i believe.

[left briar]

bloodthirsty only one hit

[olive ember]

bloodthirsty used to apply for every hit within a 5 second timeframe

now its only one hit after special

[twilit badger]

Ah that

[deep oxide]

What i do is just power it up if there's anything with flak or bulkier in the horde.

it deletes mixed hordes when activated easily.

[twilit badger]

I'm using powering up spam to build up peril ASAP

Since almost no delay on powering up on Illisi

Then quell them to gain like 70% of toughness almost instantly

With quietude

[deep oxide]

Thanks for the idea. Might try that out.

[twilit badger]

Light attack spam is so strong on Illish i'm only powering up when killing maniac type enemies and scab ragers tbh lmao

[deep oxide]

I just do heavy light heavy light

[twilit badger]

That works too

But with slaughterer blessing you just

Kinda melts everything that are not armored super fast anyway

[deep oxide]

me like honky swing.

[slate oasis]

What are the best blessings for the Mk V dueling sword? I'm assuming rampage and uncanny strike?

[ornate hamlet]

i figured out the worker threads problem by accident

i was looking at the performance on task manager and saw 4 logical cores at work

and i was like

wait a minute, i have fucking 12

and it was because the windows boot settings were only launching 4

did i ever tell how much i hate computers?

[cyan notch]

stupid pea shooter

[olive ember]

hey maybe you'll role infernus on it

and cry

[olive ember]

ah yes "intended"

idk why they are bothering to cover their ass with this one tbh

its clearly a nerf meant for flamer and they forgot that the burn dmg values apply to every dot in the game

[cyan portal]

Yeah, I'm surprised even for fs, I tried to give them as easy 'whoops' out.

[olive ember]

if it really was "intended" that means they "intended" to nerf infernus into the ground

its just

wow

[cyan portal]

On the plus side they have shown that whining works to get them to change things. So hopefully all the siblings pitch in to whine a bit even though we're by nature the chillest class.

[deep oxide]

Isn't the DOT damage change intentionally universal? Just a stupid change?

Since its seperate from the flamer in the patch notes

Or am i mistaken with that.

[cyan portal]

Yeah, in that link the devs confirm the universal change was the intention.

[deep oxide]

I meant in the original patch-notes themselves

[cyan notch]

i always assumed it was intentional since their wording was all dot sources

[deep oxide]

Yeah

[cyan notch]

was pretty clear imo

[deep oxide]

They probably saw "Fire DOT is killing alot of stuff, lets jsut nerf it universally"

[cyan portal]

'burn dot sources', so assuming soulblaze is a burn then yeah it was clear.

[deep oxide]

So it was a intended blanket change, just a stupid thing to do.

[cyan portal]

In the dev note they point out the change was intended to tone down the interaction with zealot ult vs crushers. None of the other changes make sense of that statement.

"Since the armor penetration effectively degrades Carapace armor to Flak armor, the removal of high damage vs. Flak helps bring flamer-wielding Zealots into more balanced territory."

[deep oxide]

I see

But isn't that in regards to the specific flamer armor changes though?

[cyan portal]

Nope, that comment is referencing "Lower burning DoT damage from all sources vs. Flak armour from 200% to 100%", which effected Psykers.

[mellow minnow]

It just bites that a balance pass on one viable weapon for zealot kneecapped an entire build path and multiple weapons and blessings for psyker

[cyan portal]

It doesn't even stop the Zealots from still being able to do this https://youtu.be/IPqZ6QBkSBo

[mellow minnow]

It's fine. My force sword lighting enemies on fire on Crit is meant to be a light source not any kind of damage. (It blinds me)

[supple skiff]

was only a matter of time before they started nerfing us again lol

frankly im surprised they didnt take a bigger swing at the illsi

[olive ember]

like yeah they said "lower burning DoT damage from all sources" as in "we coded it so that all burn dmg use the same values, and we need to nerf flamer soooo"

and then tada here we are

zero thought behind the implications

atleast I hope there was zero thought

because if they fully recognized "yeah we are screwing psyker over and making sure infernus stays dead" then wow

[deep oxide]

To me the patch notes are still in regards to the impact damage of the flamer which adds to the overall DPS of it. I think the change that effected us was because they saw DOT overall as a problem and just did a blanket change.

[west stream]

Sadge

[olive ember]

probably idk

[deep oxide]

*the dev note

Them saying intentionally, I don't think is lying as much as i think it was them not really seeing the consequences for things.

[olive ember]

probably

I mean idk its like

they could just say "burn damage values are attached to everything and it wasn't clearly thought out" but

yeah

we got that basically

[west stream]

Just give us more fire stacks

[deep oxide]

I think they could just change how many stacks

[west stream]

More

[deep oxide]

Yeah

Like its just a couple stacks away from reaching breakpoints.

I don't even care about melting gunners like we used to, I just want to burn annoying gun ladz.

[supple skiff]

saying its intentional to save face

[cyan notch]

u still can

[olive ember]

Gunners?

nah

shooters yes

stalkers? questionable

[deep oxide]

Well you need multiple factors to help burn the shooters

[fresh reef]

The amount of salty vet players in the Steam reviews is hilarious

[deep oxide]

and its just barely

[olive ember]

I will say most people will be taking warp unleashed but yeah

[deep oxide]

I don't want to need the perks to do that on damnation.

[olive ember]

don't worry I'm about to drop a big negative review because they nerfed psyker burn damage

[idle bay]

.. and monitoring all feedback and IGNORING it 🙂

[olive ember]

even tho I don't use burn damage on psyker at all kek

[cyan portal]

AB applying two stacks per warpcharge would be fun, maybe a little op but probably fine as dead is dead. Hopefully they will fix wildfire to behave as described and remove the 4 stack limit.

[cyan notch]

you dont need perks to do it on damnation

[olive ember]

Uh

for shooters yeah

[fresh reef]

Assuming they're going to nerf slaughterer at some point, I'm gonna start running T1 slaughterer now to cope

[olive ember]

for stalkers and bruisers you need either perks or some form of power buff

and for gunners burn won't do shit to em

tho idk if burn did shit to em before

[olive ember]

just run claw + revolver

[deep oxide]

i think needing 6 stacks to kill shooters in itself is annoying, to kill anything more than shooters you need perks on weapons.

[supple skiff]

God I hope you're wrong, but deep down I know you're not

[cyan portal]

I think they could cut the power boost from slaughterer, pinning fire, and blaze away in half and they'd probably be fine and still BiS.

[olive ember]

dunno about blaze away

but slaughterer and pinning fire yes

[fresh reef]

Claw doesn't let me rub it with Warp juice for Absorption

[olive ember]

what if illisi gets nerfed

now that the psword is "shit" the illisi is next on the chopping block along with the antax

[supple skiff]

what do you run for a staff with absorption?

[fresh reef]

Void

[olive ember]

literally anything but surge will work with warp absorption

[fresh reef]

Don't care tbh

[olive ember]

lol

fair enough

[deep oxide]

with 25% damage to flak on your staff or melee weapon and 6 charges, you used to be able to kill shotgunners. barely almost killing scab gunners. Forgot to correct myself

[supple skiff]

after the fixto illsi I want to give warp absorb another go over quietude but im on the fence

[fresh reef]

Long as it's still usable, I use it for the thrill of seeing intestines shrouded in warp burn

[olive ember]

ah so thats in the gutter too then

[deep oxide]

Yeah you could never kill scab gunners with fire as far as I know

[olive ember]

I'd actually rather they just revert the flak dmg nerf tbh

[deep oxide]

but killing shitgunners with ascendent was nice.

[olive ember]

like

[fresh reef]

Can I murk trash with it? If so, that's all it needs to do. Atm it's just a bit too good at that because of slaughterer

[olive ember]

flamers are barely affected (3 ammo more for infinite maulers guys woahhh)

so just revert the damn nerf

atleast for flak dmg

idk if thats just me

the real reason actually is to counteract flamers against crushers

thats the main reason

because when you press F on zealot with their jank ass armor strip

it lets the flamer use "flak" values against crushers

thats the real reason for the fat AF dmg nerf to flak

ofc the problem here is that the zealots F is jank as shit and gives armor strip

which makes balancing anything global annoying af

[deep oxide]

A band-aid fix would jsut give us more stacks per warp charge.

[olive ember]

I guess so

idk about infernus tho kek

I mean its not just AB tho

[deep oxide]

Oh right that fire shotgun must feel off now.

[olive ember]

they would have to double the stacks on literally everything

blazing spirit, wrack and ruin, wildfire

on top of that, burn dot dmg isn't linear

so you can't just double the stacks

so yeah

the real solution should be "get rid of zealot armor strip"

like actually

wouldve solved the crusher problem with flamer

would've solved the BS that is "haha funny auto pistol sprays down 3 crushers" as well

but instead they decided randomly (because remember no one knew if it was intended) that the armor strip is actually a feature

so lets nerf flame damage across the board for all classes instead

@ember hornet I blame you for this

[ember hornet]

get wrecked

how does it feel that even though flamer got nerfed, purg is even worse than it now

[olive ember]

"flamer got nerfed"

fml lmao

idek how they would fix it cuz originally I was like "oh yeah they could literally just undo the specific nerf and give flak dmg back since flamers still melt maulers"

and then I realized the whole giant nerf to flak

was because of zealot flamers into crushers

[cyan notch]

purg is actually not affected much

[olive ember]

purge isnt its literally everything else that uses soulblaze

[deep oxide]

The problem is more so how bursty the others are

so purg isn't really effected, nor is the flamer

the rest aren't continous streams of damage.

I'm not sure how i would fix the flamer in a reasonable way though, besides seperating fire damage from soulblaze damage maybe?

[ember hornet]

get rid of zealot F on ranged? wdym, it's confirmed finally

[olive ember]

fml lmao so dumb

its so jank and it makes balancing aids as well

[ember hornet]

naw dude

[olive ember]

case in point, burn flak dmg

[ember hornet]

lemme slap some crushers with my pinning blaze autopistol

[olive ember]

why was it cut in half? because a certain class used fucking flak damage to melt crushers

[ember hornet]

or do 2200 dps to crushers with a brauto

cause that makes sense

[deep oxide]

wouldn't an easy fix for that just make

the F only apply to one hit?

*chastise

[ember hornet]

that's melee only

[deep oxide]

I meant make ranged weapons

only one hit

[ember hornet]

ranged is all hits, would be useless with 1 hit

[olive ember]

The fix is "don't give the melee class to suddenly armor pen with their ranged weapons"

and then buff the melee side of their ability

[deep oxide]

I can see it still being strong with stuff like the boltor or shotgun.

[olive ember]

give em toughneess DR or some shit

literally could be as simple as that

get rid of armor strip, slap a 30% Toughness DR on to the ability done

[ember hornet]

the whole armor pen thing, it just kind of ruins the weapon balance

cause you can run anything and kill crushers

so it's nerfing the weapons with intended crusher killing

more or less

[deep oxide]

I think making it only apply to one ranged hit (or maybe the first few if its automatic?) is fine.

[ember hornet]

but also

vets have perma 50% damage and weakspot damage, 75% DR, and wallhacks

so might as well let us keep it

and apparently you can't nerf vet

otherwise they all review bomb the game

[leaden thunder]

[deep oxide]

I think the nerf they did to vet was stupid and I don't play him tbh.

[ember hornet]

what nerf

they hardly even nerfed psword

[olive ember]

I mean the argument which ik alot of people have is that in a pve game nerfs should be small and everything should be buffed up to a certain standard instead

[deep oxide]

i think the power sword needed nerfs, just not in that direction.

[ember hornet]

oh no 3 swings

[olive ember]

and if things get too easy release more modifiers or a higher difficulty

but idk thats alot of work

[ember hornet]

yes let me keep my S++++++++ tier weapon pls that is better than everything else

very good for game health

[leaden thunder]

I think this is a fair take tbh

shoulda just slaped a charge meter on it or something

[ember hornet]

I'd rather them just remove power cycler

and give it 2 swings or something

but regardless

if you have power cycler it's not a nerf

[olive ember]

eh psword I'm partial too, I never liked the charge mechanic. Hell I perform worse with teh illisi I find than the obscurus lmao ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ember hornet]

you know it, but that's a skill issue lol

[deep oxide]

Yeah thats why I hate it.

the power cycler should be a bonus, not feel like its needed.

[ember hornet]

yeah

annoying in that way I can agree with I suppose

[olive ember]

The flamer nerfs are truly outstanding tho. They are simultaneously heavy handed, yet did barely anything to touch flamer. On top of that they fked over other classes

truly a 10/10 fatshark moment

[deep oxide]

I think outrage towards it is justified purely from the standpoint of they nerfed it in a stupid way.

[fresh reef]

How do you guys think FatShark will go about nerfing Illisi? (if they even bother to lol)

[olive ember]

idk cuz on one hand

its a better psword without cycler

on the other hand

[ember hornet]

even without cycler it's one of the best weapons in the game, so I don't really care

get over it

vet shouldn't have omega busted melee

[leaden thunder]

more then likely they'll nerf sluaghterer

[karmic reef]

How tf do y’all find grimoires? I’m scouring the whole ass map before every point of no return and don’t find shit

[olive ember]

Probably slaughterer

[leaden thunder]

that's what makes the illisi so strong, it's a good weapon on it's own

[olive ember]

memorize spawn locations on map

[leaden thunder]

it's op with sluagh

[deep oxide]

You're saying get over it like I play veteran.

[olive ember]

I forget do grims make a hissing sound when you are closs

[ember hornet]

I wasn't saying get over it to you

just like

[karmic reef]

I guess that’s a solution

[ember hornet]

general populace

[deep oxide]

in general, got it.

[olive ember]

eh psword nerfs I'm fine with

I do wish they made it a bit different

cuz rn its just "worse illisi but it has power cycler"

and its like

ehhh

[karmic reef]

Psword should be on par with force swords imo, but it could be more unique

[olive ember]

prefer if they made it distinct in some way

[ember hornet]

I'm not fine with people review bombing over 2 much needed nerfs

not cool

[olive ember]

oh yeah

but casual playerbase moment

[karmic reef]

Massive reviewer L

[olive ember]

and the whole "it took me 40 hrs to get the god roll psword"

and then it got basically nerfed in half

even if justified i doubt it would feel good

[leaden thunder]

that is the main fair compliant

I think a decent idea

[karmic reef]

That’s a risk you take when you spend 40 hours to get a god roll anything

[fresh reef]

Personally think it's hilarious

Review score won't affect player growth that much, given that a large part of the growth is already "nah dude trust me the games fun"

Plus culling the vets that can't melee from my Damnation lobbies is a welcome change

[karmic reef]

Imo You should be able to transfer the ratio of stat rolls to another weapon at hadron

[leaden thunder]

would be like how in warframe, if they change/nerf a weapon/frame they'll give you forma as a gimme for it

so have some kind of thing in place

[karmic reef]

Or this

[leaden thunder]

so if they change stuff you aren't fucked

[fresh reef]

This would be neat

[deep oxide]

I think its a mix of how fucked the RNG is mixed with the nerf being in a way that encourages the fucked up RNG.

[fresh reef]

Not sure how they could implement it though

[ember hornet]

well many weapons struggle with the whole blessing thing

it's just bad general game design

[olive ember]

The entire system is kinda fucked yeah

[leaden thunder]

I think one way(other then just getting rid of weapon locks) is to unlock weapons blessings and perk that get changed

[deep oxide]

Then they do a nerf that encourages it instead of taking a step foward.

[leaden thunder]

at least temporarily

[fresh reef]

Or just do away with locked blessings/perks entirely

[ember hornet]

like, if I didn't have a thrust slaughterer hammer it would be soooo much worse

which is annoying

[deep oxide]

I think just removing the locked rolls and allowing us to use diame..i can't spell that word to upgrade the blessing would help a ton without being that much different.

[leaden thunder]

I mean that'd be ideal

but I am working under the assumption they aren't gonna do that

maybe also give a certain amount of plasteel + diamantine as well

[olive ember]

autopistol without pinning fire kek

oh god

a grey hsword

A GREY HSWORD

[ember hornet]

tbh it's not super hard to farm weapons anymore unless you are unlucky

[olive ember]

I mean i'm fairly unlucky

[ember hornet]

I got everything I wanted on psyker after idk 40-50 hours

[olive ember]

500k to get a good base stat weapon

and then hadron fucks me over

rinse and repeat

[deep oxide]

It shouldn't be luck based mixed in with not everyone having a ton of time.

maybe I just really despise RNG systems and prefer just flat out progression.

[ember hornet]

but also it takes way longer if you don't play damnation

[olive ember]

that too

[cyan notch]

diamantine

[karmic reef]

I like RNG in some systems, but when it’s integral to success, it should at least be pseudo rng

Like what if you at least got to pick your blessing out of three random ones

[cyan notch]

probably not but theyre looking into blessing locks at least

[leaden thunder]

tbh I am more annoyed by perk locks

[ember hornet]

we are looking into it and keeping an eye on it ™️

[leaden thunder]

becuase perks are annoying

[deep oxide]

I would be fine with atleast having more control over it like, no more locked perks and being able to upgrade the blessings.

[leaden thunder]

and boring

[deep oxide]

that would help alot

[cyan notch]

curio locks are another stupid thing

[olive ember]

tbf alot and I mean alot of people dislike the rng so yeah its prob on their radar atleast

[leaden thunder]

blessings are at least interesting to work towards

[deep oxide]

Its stupid that its full on gambling right now basically.

[leaden thunder]

but perks are just yawn

[karmic reef]

I might be misunderstanding but wym?

[leaden thunder]

and they are so integral for some weapons

[leaden thunder]

1 perk being unable to be rerolled

[deep oxide]

he's refering to like 25% damage to flak and stuff like that on weapons i believe.

[leaden thunder]

yeah

those are boring as fuck

[cyan notch]

haha u got +xp and +dockets? get fucked choose one or throw the whole thing away

[leaden thunder]

oh it's even worse

on curios

[olive ember]

I laughed when I saw the "crafting system" cuz it felt like it was lifted straight out of a division 2's optimization system, where you could swap out one stat or perk or wte and everything else about the weapon would be locked

[ember hornet]

like, the fact that this has groaners I can't do anything about, and that it would take millions of ordos and a shit ton of plasteel to replace is quite annoying

[olive ember]

they implemented a Looter Shooter crafting system into a horde shooter game

like bruh

[cyan notch]

groaners good

[karmic reef]

Fr this is completely lifted off of destiny

And that’s why I hated destiny

[ember hornet]

10% would make me kill 20 poxwalkers in 1 swing, but at 8% I'm 1 damage off lol

[leaden thunder]

[olive ember]

funny breakpoints

[karmic reef]

Who melees pox-walkers though

[ember hornet]

I'm a zealot main

so I play illisi psyker like zealot

[karmic reef]

Ah

[leaden thunder]

this is purely my opinion (also crossed with how I think fs will handle things) but I think get rid of perks locks and allow us to upgrade blessings and that's fine

[olive ember]

I mean I do

[deep oxide]

I main psyker but I also melee mostly lmao

[olive ember]

cuz surge staff

or autopistol

[deep oxide]

I either use the auto-gun ( i mean come on) or any staff that isn't purgatus.

[olive ember]

I play more aggro than the pug zealot atleast

[ember hornet]

pug zealot be like, lemme pull out my MG12

[cyan notch]

put infested then u can bodyshot 20

[karmic reef]

I like autopistol but I have more fun going voidstrike or purgatus, it just gives me a huge dopamine hit when I clear a whole row of enemies with one shot, or just melting things with purg

[ember hornet]

actually like 1 damage off 20 poxwalkers lol

199.81

sadge

[deep oxide]

yeah reason i like the voidstrike

the crunchy headshot noises

yum

[cyan notch]

theyre 300hp tho

[karmic reef]

I like purg more though bc I can do the max passive gain warp charge build because I hate having to micromanage warp stacks

[leaden thunder]

*50% ish from psyker damage boosts

[ember hornet]

6 warp charges + warp unleashed is the assumption

[olive ember]

how do you have 6 warp charges when you are spamming quicken

[cyan notch]

yea then u can put infested for bodyshot

[ember hornet]

err kill things and BB once or twice

[karmic reef]

Idk if I wanna run warp battery on my purg passive warp charge build

[olive ember]

.> this guy uses communion doesn't he

[karmic reef]

The damage would be nice ig

[ember hornet]

lemme see what do I run exactly

[cyan notch]

if u put infested then boom ez no need to aim for head

[deep oxide]

I do...is...is that bad?

[ember hornet]

I run 311211

[cyan notch]

21 baddies dead

[olive ember]

yeah so communion

[west galleon]

MIND IN MOTION

[ember hornet]

Idk if I wanna give up flak for that though

[olive ember]

kinetic shield disgust

fucking toughness DR

[ember hornet]

simply dodge and slide

smh

and stack toughness curios

ez

[west galleon]

I will never give up mind in motion

[cyan notch]

you dont need flak embrace the horde blender

[west galleon]

I pay way too little attention and tend to get separated

[ember hornet]

but I like one shotting flak ragers super easily

[deep oxide]

do people actually go the other level 15 talents?

[west galleon]

Just dont pick any talents

[deep oxide]

i can see cerebral lacerations be good against like bosses i guess.

[west galleon]

Ezpz

[cyan notch]

ragers are lame they get stunned anyway

[ember hornet]

killing 3 shotgunners in 1 swing also kinda nice

imagine a weapon existing

that kills 3 shotgunners in 1 swing

lol

[west galleon]

Imagine imagining an ability to burst someones brain

A brain blast if you will

[deep oxide]

why burst brain when you can burst their nuts

[snow panther]

next class Psyker Nutburster

[west galleon]

How do you imagine that would sound like

[snow panther]

this is awful i hate it already

[deep oxide]

I imagine the same but with alot more screaming.

[snow panther]

its a CC class

[west galleon]

Well, the pop would be a bit softer but 2 small ones right?

[deep oxide]

their ovaries?

[snow panther]

arent ogryn asexual as well?

[west galleon]

Since when are ovaries nuts, the eggcracker gets a separate slot

[snow panther]

what about the poxhounds are they neutered i never checked

[deep oxide]

I don't think so, but i'm not sure tbh.

[snow panther]

why cant you choose a female ogryn

[deep oxide]

They're mentioned to be rare and shit in the books, as for why not be able to choose them..I don't know. Its so scarcely mentioned, its possible GW has other plans or ideas in that department.

[olive ember]

something something its explained that female ogryns are rare and therefore saved for breeding or wte

funny grimdark future

[grizzled jasper]

Pogburster https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1085910284251705444/image.png

[deep oxide]

I know in one book, i believe its stated that female ogryns are rare and psyker ogryns even more rarer. As one of the characters in it is a psyker ogryn...who dies.

[near wyvern]

Such a beauty

[fresh steeple]

Ogryn lore is extremely handwavey in 40k until only a few years ago. Which is also why they were portrayed as imbecilic children. It's easy to have a whole subspecies of drooling morons barely more sentient than lobotomized servitors if the only lore you provide about them is "they live on dense mountain worlds and gravity makes them big dumb" and the only time they show up in the setting is as background cannon fodder or as miniatures

[deep oxide]

warhammer lore in general is so convulated and contradictory lmao

The real answer is we don't have a set in stone female ogyrn or miniature.

and thats why we don't have them in game

[fresh steeple]

I mean, I don't know if I agree with that. They don't retcon too many things, and try to squeeze retcons in with "it's just part of myth/rumor"

but Ogryns are definitely a prime example of setting evolution

[deep oxide]

Well what I mean is things change over time, and then different authors have different tastes which has some changes here and there.

[fresh steeple]

no way to make interesting characters if they all have the intelligence of babbling toddlers and come off as grotesque parodies of people with Down Syndrome in the best of times

[deep oxide]

The way I treat it is specifics, especially in older lore, is shakey to current lore.

[fresh steeple]

so the Ogryns that show up with speaking roles are more akin to ~7-8 year old kids, and Bone'ead implements let some of them be almost vaguely interesting

[grizzled jasper]

Just have mods increase ogryn chest size then bam female ogryn ezpz I should be a modder

[fresh steeple]

but yes, fundamentally, female Ogryns don't exist because they don't have miniatures and therefore get the Entwives treatment

[near wyvern]

I liked more the original suggestion, 🧀 size

[deep oxide]

I love that comparison.

[fresh steeple]

"They're carefully guarded and not allowed off-world because of gender imbalance and the danger of their homeworlds" is as fair an explanation for a marginal bit of lore as anything

in Psyker-related news, having finally gotten over my prejudice of Trauma staff and used it for a while last night... I like Trauma staff now.

[deep oxide]

I think all staffs are equal, just some are more equal than others.

[fresh steeple]

but I do think that Inner Tranquility actually is better on it than Warp Unleashed

the extra peril resistance lets you get off several additional level 5 Warp Flurry charges

which compensates for any damage lost from Warp Unleashed while providing more CC

[near wyvern]

With Warp Flurry yes, without it no

[fresh steeple]

well, yes, with Warp Flurry specifically

and in my Psykanium tests I can still get guaranteed one-shots with Deimos special attack on Mutants and Ragers even without WU

[near wyvern]

I like to run Nexus Spirit and WU because those sweet BB break points

[fresh steeple]

so long as I run 25% Maniac damage and have max charges

[near wyvern]

Deimos special attack on Mutant

2nd heavy is for the masters

[fresh steeple]

that also works

I'll live with not being a master on a weapon loadout I just started using 12 hours ago

[near wyvern]

Fair

[fresh steeple]

and SA is a single activation when things are chaotic

double heavies are a nice alternative, no doubt

[deep oxide]

Hey friends, what kind of songs you think my beloved would like for our honeymoon?

[near wyvern]

Double heavies?

@fresh steeple

Check especially 1:10 mark, the dog would have gotten me if I had used a special there

https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10

[deep oxide]

Well yeah but the special makes me feel good

[cyan notch]

special is pretty decent for 1 shots still

[deep oxide]

i like feeling like space wizard duelist and pumping my magic into people

[fresh steeple]

first heavy is overhead, second is plunge, is it not?

[feral verge]

2nd heavy is a stab on Deimos

[fresh steeple]

yes

so you need to queue up the first one to get to the second

aka "double heavies"

[feral verge]

It's quicker to do 1 light attack

Then the next heavy will be the stab

[fresh steeple]

hmm. good to know!

[deep oxide]

That kind of combo works for most weapons as far as I know btw

like for the illisi i do light heavy because it does the right to left cleave alot more.

[feral verge]

You know youve done it right when it's a quick stab, then a slower stab

[deep oxide]

or was it heavy light

[cyan notch]

that

[deep oxide]

i also do something similar with the eviscerator.

Its been a while since i've played zealot though

[near wyvern]

Slap

[feral verge]

thanks historitor :/

[deep oxide]

Get destroyed for trying to be helpful

[feral verge]

i wasnt reading that or anything

[supple skiff]

what a dick head

[feral verge]

yeah can we ban pygex for being helpful

[deep oxide]

He's the true witch, siblings.

[supple skiff]

enjoy your time out pillar of the psyker community

[near wyvern]

I guess people just really hate formatting for clarity

[fresh steeple]

I read it all before it disappeared

[feral verge]

fatshark does

[deep oxide]

Just INJECT IT WITH MIND POWERS, NERD

[near wyvern]

I thought Fatshark were done nerfing psyker so I guess they moved on to me

[deep oxide]

You both start off with P.

Close 'nuff.

[near wyvern]

Yeah CTRL+F said it matches with P, gotta do it

[deep oxide]

Just like the fire changes.

so has anyone came up with any cool ideas for another psyker class yet?

[twilit flicker]

Let's do on right now. Melee psyker uses claymore

[ornate hamlet]

gun psyker but unironically

[near wyvern]

Nah. Too much copium in that stuff.

[feral verge]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[deep oxide]

I think a support psyker would be neat. Though it'll probably be a commisar veteran that gets the support role sooner.

[supple skiff]

just crafted this up from brunts. Was missing delfector a bit too much after the bug got fixed lol

[near wyvern]

Support psyker already exists. Take surge with Exorcist Deflector Illisi, rocking talents 313131.

[twilit flicker]

Psykinrtics wrath sets everyone's weapon ablaze giving 4 stacks of soulblaze per hit

[deep oxide]

well i mean full on support.

Like imagine a one way deflector wall that your teamates can get behind as your F.

[near wyvern]

With hidden max cap at 4 stacks

[cyan notch]

https://youtu.be/itRfGeOwrFc
rate my mutant killing abilities (haters will say stab better)

[twilit flicker]

The vets will love us more for the power we give them

And they hate us so it will only get a little better

Psykineks wrath is like chadtize the wicked but it teleports instead

[near wyvern]

2nd heavy one shot is just better IMO. Change my mind.

[olive ember]

I'm more surprised no one left

[deep oxide]

hides autogun mutant deleter

[twilit flicker]

Gun psyker with movement shenanigans, can teleport

[deep oxide]

I was thinking a teleport psyker thing but i think that would be too situational.

[twilit flicker]

Charges up g8ns like he does force sword for massive damage and stagger

[deep oxide]

so like a staff?

[twilit flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/damage-thats-a-lot-of-damage-jon-tron-gif-13054497

[deep oxide]

Jokes aside warp-infused bullet sounds awesome

[twilit flicker]

Lmao yes like a staff cuz guns are just different staves. Yes really!

[deep oxide]

in reality all weapons are staffs if you think about it

[twilit flicker]

The antax is a staff

[cyan notch]

if i can guarantee the headshot yes

[deep oxide]

its a sharp asymetrical staff.

[cyan notch]

i mean its almost the end of the mission and the resses arent far might as well wait and see

[deep oxide]

An idea that sounds...really good or really bad is uh

psyker with the ability to mind control.

Like i think being able to turn a crusher on your side would be neat. More so as a distraction I guess though.

though i guess thats essentially a one shot tool in a indirect way unless its timed.

[ornate hamlet]

i have been realizing

the unarmored, infested and flak damage on mk2 duel lights is higher than mk5

also i met a vet who was kind of an ass to someone else for being a bit miffed me and said vet split up to another path, and then the dude started getting more and more controlling

eventually he threatened to block a third guy who was a poor psyker

saying the psyker either follows his calls or gets blocked and doesnt enter "his game" anymore

sometimes hi5 isnt all sunshine and rainbows

[ruby plover]

vet moment

[sinful stream]

I'm seeing on reddit that soulblaze was somehow nerfed due to the flamer nerfs this patch, is it true?

[deep oxide]

Increadibly. Yes.

[feral verge]

yea homie its in the patch notes

[sinful stream]

Ok my reading comprehension is ass

[deep oxide]

Its at the bottom and its just a singular note

Dot damage towards flak was reduced greatly

[feral verge]

all DOTs have reduced dmg to flak

[sinful stream]

But damn soulblaze builds were finally just starting to be usable

[feral verge]

its ogne down from 2x damage, to 1x damage i believe

[sinful stream]

Oh well.. not as bad as I thought I suppose

[feral verge]

purga +AB is still usable as it's always been

[deep oxide]

You need to set up AB more to do anything worthwhile with it imo

[sinful stream]

I'm not a purg guy I'm a trauma - BS and sword - BS guy

[feral verge]

its wrack and ruin + wildfire that were ass before this, and are even more ass after this

[feral verge]

this is known, yee

[sinful stream]

Damnit. I love those

[deep oxide]

It doesn't one shot shooters anymore I believe without 6 warp charges, might be wrong on that though

I know it won't kill stalkers and such though

[sinful stream]

Well fuck every single thing that adds a stack of blaze (besides purg) should get one more stack or something... so wack

I'm going over to the vet channel to join the doomers

[deep oxide]

I imagine every channel is full of doomers besides the ogryn tbh

Though the zealot changes didn't really effect them at all lmao

[sinful stream]

Psykers are really not allowed to be happy lmao

[deep oxide]

I'm still happy with the new force swords tbh

[sinful stream]

After the previous patch it was feeling real good

[deep oxide]

This didn't really effect me at all since I only recently started using AB

[sinful stream]

Ok I suppose not every psyker is a wrack n ruin wildfire ascendant blaze Blazing spirit fanatic like myself

[deep oxide]

Funny damned soul fire.

I would like AB to blow away anything beserker and below with 4 charges though tbh

I mean sure its a bummer that we can't kill shotgunners anymore but that's like whatever

Sorry I meant bruiser

[sinful stream]

I only use four stacks cuz of wildfire, so AB never felt like it was blowing everyone away

Well on heresy it does

[deep oxide]

I was playing heresy earlier and it didn't seem to do much at all

[feral verge]

wildfire does nothing yee

[deep oxide]

I meant AB

I don't use wildfire

[north cradle]

Would you recommend Warp Battery over Wildfire then

[feral verge]

Every time

Pygex did testing of wildfire and found it to be shit

[north cradle]

I was thinking to make my Purgatus build 111212

[deep oxide]

Wildfire is okay I think with the purgstus and ascended blaze but especially now, yeah I wouldn't really use it

[sinful stream]

Unfortunately blue fire activates neurons in my monkey brain so im gonna keep using it

[deep oxide]

I think warp battery is better for AB ATM tbh

(warp battery is 6 charges right)

[sinful stream]

Yeah

Agreed

[north cradle]

I'm more of a Gun Psyker enthusiast nowadays with Warp Unleashed

[sinful stream]

But im not gonna

[north cradle]

But if the Zealot isn't packing a Flamer, I'll swap to Purgatus

[deep oxide]

The uh 10% brain burst thing is my guilty pleasure

Just deletes anything not an ogryn with the auto pistol

Fuck you maulers.

This is revenge for my noobie days

[sinful stream]

Getting that to trigger on a brain burst itself is 🤌

[north cradle]

It's 15% ain't it

[deep oxide]

What it can trigger off brain burst?

[north cradle]

You can double Brain Burst

[sinful stream]

It triggers off any damage
Even the 1 damage massive supression radius on a trauma staff. Very fun to see someone across the room just get popped

[deep oxide]

I have warp brain rot, I don't know anything

[patent steeple]

btw is it just me, or does BB feel like it charges slightly faster now? its probably my imagination, but still

[north cradle]

Brain Burst + Mind Flayer free burst

I think it charges the same rate for me

[deep oxide]

That explains why I was one shotting some stuff that typically takes two

[north cradle]

Yeh

[deep oxide]

Might be due to being able to do it more due to peril changes, maybe.

[north cradle]

I'm not sure if you get double Warp Charge stacks if you get a double Brain Burst tho

[deep oxide]

Adrenaline gives me warp charges, its fine.

I just have my veins connected to the PC.

[north cradle]

Okay Techpriest

[deep oxide]

Why the fuck did I get really happy when you said that

[north cradle]

1. Hadron
2. r/grimdank Femboy Skitarii

[deep oxide]

Fuck.

[north cradle]

Or was it r/WarhammerNSFW

[deep oxide]

Its a meme on both.

Will you be the iron warrior to my-

[patent steeple]

no i was talking about the charge amount bar around the crosshair, it seems to move up at a slightly faster pace than before... ehh whatever like i said it could just be my imagination because i dont remember how quickly it charged before

[karmic copper]

Whay are some rank 4 gun blessings i should be looking out for for other careers? I ONLY have psyker atm.

[deep oxide]

Well I meant the brain might be tricking ya due to being able to brain burst more. Theres been weirder stuff

[north cradle]

Ghost for Veteran

And Headhunter

[deep oxide]

If we get a skitiarii veteran, I'ma probably main them

Adeptus mechanicus is my full blown favorite faction.

[north cradle]

You can't get Flamer nor Braced Autoguns on Psyker so Zealot is kinda fucked

Obviously no Ogryn weapons

[deep oxide]

Wait do blessings go between classes?

[north cradle]

Ya

[deep oxide]

...

Oh my god

[karmic copper]

Blessings are cross account AND for all same type. So get brutal momentum on antax mk5 for psyker, ALL careers, ALL combat axe have it

[north cradle]

We don't get shared Curios, but we do get shared blessings, which is nice

[karmic copper]

It is nice

[livid night]

ogryns get fcked over tho :<

[north cradle]

Ogryns and Psykers get cucked tho

[deep oxide]

We're too Chad.

[north cradle]

Psykers are double cucked because staff blessings are not shared

I have Warp Flurry 3 from a Surge Staff and I can't put it on my Purgatus nor Voidstrike

Angery

[olive ember]

just run autopistol psyker

ez shared blessing

[cyan notch]

still kills all trash with warp unleashed and for the scab shooter stalker whatever just gotta be 50% peril

[ruby plover]

i just run voidstrike on zealot

alternative shared loadout

[feral verge]

its crazy how many people dont know about this feature lol

thammer really fucks bosses hard on psyker with warp unleashed

[near wyvern]

You don't. But you can get double from PC + BB, KF + PC, Soulblazed target + BB (with AB), Soulblazed target + KF (with AB). Presumably even triple stacks with BB/KF + PC on a Soulblazed target (with AB) but that event has too low chances for me to test if it can happen that I would get insane for something that might happen so rarely that it doesn't matter anyways.

[austere estuary]

What’s this talk of shared blessings unlocks

Did I miss it in the psych notes?

Patch *

[near wyvern]

Cause the chance to get the triple stack if it is possible are 0.4% on BB / KF proc on a Soulblazed target.

[near wyvern]

Blessings unlocks are account wide

Have always been since the ability to unlock them unlocked

[karmic copper]

@austere estuary since the blessings of omnisiah patch 2 months ago or so. All the big crafting changes. The unseen benefit of the grind was the semi shared aspect of it

[near wyvern]

Which shows that it's not immeasurably complex to have things shared account wide (aquillas hello) so why on earth can't we have shared mats and dockets account wide

[karmic copper]

They gotta draw the lines somewhere. I find that to be a relative happy medium for me. I only play psyker so far anyway, but i was almost 1000hr into verm 2 before i venture off of sienna

Yeah i don't get that part

I would 100% play the other careers if i could use their or my current resources back and forth

[austere estuary]

Wait lmao awesome

I had no idea

[near wyvern]

It's not like someone could just take a lvl one and kit it to the teeth with I finite mats and dockets because the rolls are anyway locked behind character level. And a lvl 1 with lvl 30 gear would still be lvl 1 form the feats side. 🤷

[karmic copper]

What are some of the better ranged that psyker shares? (To watch out for blessings for)

[leaden thunder]

autoguns(infantry, headhunter and pistol)

that's pretty much it

[near wyvern]

Shredder

[austere estuary]

Glad to know it’s not 100% pointless when I see a great gun blessing (or the many I already offered up)

[near wyvern]

Pinning fire and the other one which gives power the longer you shoot

[leaden thunder]

oh, infantry lasguns

but those aren't blessing reliant

[long osprey]

Vrak head hunter is a good gun to pop shooters tbh

[cyan notch]

revolver

[near wyvern]

Yeah Infantry Lasguns are solid. BB + illisi deals with what they can't and they have superb ammo economy.

[karmic copper]

Headhunter and ghost.. what else great for autoguns?

Russian roul?

[leaden thunder]

opening salvo for the semi auto one

[karmic copper]

Is that the one where you have to release esch shot like limbcutter h1 spam sorta shit

[leaden thunder]

sorta

basically you let the recoil reset

and it does that stupid fast on the semi

you don't have to make use of it 100% of the time

[near wyvern]

Can you qq spam it?

[leaden thunder]

maybe?

but that sounds aids

and it's probably faster to just let it reset normally

[near wyvern]

Right

[leaden thunder]

that is how fast it resets basically

[rare furnace]

Imagine the beloved psyker talking about anime waifus

[near wyvern]

Nah. My beloved is the ogryn 🧀

[rigid sky]

Gentlemen, it is with great pleasure that I inform you that I have joined the 1.4% in going out with a bang.

[wet jacinth]

[wet jacinth]

There is a female psyker ogryn

Unless Male Ogryns are your thing

The Bois

[near wyvern]

How do I know, I have never tried one

[rose dagger]

Haven't changed perks or anything yet but seems pretty decent

[delicate smelt]

weird boyz be da beluhvuhd!

[rose dagger]

Should I swap sustained fire III for focused channeling on voidstrike

Also take it focused channeling tier levels don't matter

[spice veldt]

I don't particularly like sustained fire, so I'd vote yes
Yup; Focused Channeling is a T2 only blessing

[near wyvern]

You should change Sustained for Transfer Peril

[rose dagger]

Don't have that for voidstrike yet, so I'll just switch to focused channeling for now

Thanks y'all

[delicate smelt]

at that charge rate your charge from start to finish should be a little below 2 seconds, maybe 1,8 seconds or something

so you really have no need for focused channeling imo

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/Zpf9k3RFyMonD/d1337U8kF2Xz?invite=cr-MSxFTVgsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[near wyvern]

Yah that's fast

[fresh steeple]

Transfer Peril

seconded

it's what lets Voidstrike turn into a gatling gun

[brazen basalt]

pure art.

[twilit flicker]

It's the truth, now the vets can only swing three times max before running out of juice!

Lol visited reddit and the first post is something about how OP the powersword was.
"Too much power not enough responsibility, if the vet goes down the runs over or we nerf the powersword!"

Omg it's not even just the top post, it's the top four! Hadron is 5th. I've seen enough.

[rose dagger]

Guess I was one of the lucky ones that got to enjoy power cycler IV for a few months, got bored of it, and already made a good tactical and antax axe

[mortal crest]

I got PC IV 3 days ago lmao

Used it for like 2 games. Feelsbad.

Like you, I did have some cash money axes to fall back on though.

[proper elbow]

Why is force sword slaughterer only 2 seconds -_-

[spice veldt]

I think it does last 3.5 seconds

just fatshark description-itis back at it again

[summer prairie]

the blessing entry says active duration = 2

[long osprey]

Make wildfire great again (never really was)

[west galleon]

Hehe i changed mine for deflector

Since devs decided to remove something that should be a feat or inherent

[spice veldt]

just by checking the frames, it comes to about 3.5 seconds

[west galleon]

I'd change mind in motion for deflector

[summer prairie]

maybe it just doesn't override the default then despite that definition

[fresh reef]

anyone else find it odd how vastly different the skill is of people who play T4 vs T5?

[summer prairie]

the actual base template for the blessing uses child_duration instead of active_duration, probably why

[spice veldt]

time for another bug report related to force swords; sad to see 3.5 seconds slaughterer go though

[summer prairie]

I'll pass

[spice veldt]

the players mostly feel the same to me between t4 and t5

i too shall pass on making it

[feral verge]

t4 is full of people trying to get out of malice

(Which many cant)

t4 is harder than damnation on avg, because of the players

[fierce sinew]

T4 = leveling, penance, shitter gulag T5 = actually playing the game

[feral verge]

t4 is where many bad players go to die

[fierce sinew]

that's what it comes down to I think

[feral verge]

this too

[olive ember]

I mean

Just play malice

Ez

Also wtf I just quickplayed 5 missions in Damnation and all I kept getting was low int

[cyan notch]

never speak of this again

[steel flame]

It is super weird going from exclusivly high intensity damnation variants to regular heresy. Everybody really do be strugglin

[olive ember]

I mean if you aren’t running a carry build in heresy idk what you doing

Even I swap out my surge staff on heresy

[west galleon]

I need a shieldgryn

[steel flame]

End up being the person picking people almost every match

[west galleon]

Where are the psyker shieldgryns

[olive ember]

Also anyone know an ogryn named Jaws?

I swear I’ve seen him a few times already

[safe crystal]

The only games i've bothered playing recently have been on heresy, because my friends arent good enough for damnation yet and i cant be arsed to carry anymore

[feral verge]

i have something to sjow you

show

[steel flame]

I run into the same people constantly in damnation. I've played with these two vets eyesea and Harkon in almost 20 separate quick play damnation runs in the last couple months

[olive ember]

smh carry em harder

trial by fire

thats whta I did with my friends

just went "eh sure damnation time"

they were malice players before

[safe crystal]

I took em out on a spin for hi5 gaunt

Its bad

[feral verge]

@west galleon it's me. im psyker shieldgryn

[olive ember]

oof

Tbf idk what you expected with hi shock

should just run normal damnation

and maybe hi 5

[safe crystal]

But thats boring

[tacit jungle]

hello,,, I have come to you once again for help. I managed to get my grubby hands on this https://i.gyazo.com/d39a39e49ba83e8828af3024c0e9921b.png any suggestions on what to do with it?

[olive ember]

is heresy less boring tho?

XD

[safe crystal]

Nah, i can play shield ogryn

Eat while playing

[olive ember]

amazing

[safe crystal]

Get carried for once

[feral verge]

that's nice. just change unstable power 2 to unstable power 3 or 4

and change infested dmg to flak dmg

[steel flame]

Take slaughter and slap it on an illi or diemos

[feral verge]

and that's a very nice obscurus

[tacit jungle]

very good, emperor bless you

[feral verge]

this is an ioption too

[hollow current]

what an ogryn thing to do

[feral verge]

deimos and illisi are overall better than obscurus

(but obscurus isnt bad, it's just outmoded by the two new swords)

[steel flame]

Problem is that obscurus sits on a middle ground between two really good extremes and does neither very well

[feral verge]

yee

[tacit jungle]

I haven't tried the new ones yet so this will do me just fine, been using it since the beginning and I'm happy. I'll probably change my mind once I try the new ones though

[steel flame]

It is a more than usable sword though

[feral verge]

deimos is decent horde clear, great single target. illisi is great horde clear, decent single target. obscurus is decent single target, decent horde clear.

[olive ember]

excuse you

it does perfectly fine

;-;

[feral verge]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[west galleon]

Wanna tank a DH for me to get this FUCKING penance??
Nice sword btw

[olive ember]

I mean

I have time to help for like

an hour ish

[feral verge]

yeah sure

[west galleon]

Oh shit, thats the first time people said yes

[steel flame]

I mean it's perfectly viable, more than enough for hi intensity damnation. It's just it's brothers specialize into really good builds

[feral verge]

not sure if i should bring that sword, or deimos

[olive ember]

I mean for ease of use just bring a shieldgryn kek

[feral verge]

cuz with deimos you can dodge dance around DH p ez

[olive ember]

I'll plant and then just afk while I look at my hw

[west galleon]

I mean i would be totally be grateful either way

[olive ember]

I should rly get a mk 5 ripper and try it out

[ruby plover]

imagine if shieldgryn was good

cmon fatshark let em mash

let the boys mash

[west galleon]

Im still walking my dog rn but i should be home in like 10-15 minutes if you still feel like doing me this favor

[feral verge]

aight

[near wyvern]

Are you now?

https://youtu.be/l_ol8sMQQDc

[feral verge]

i've seen that

i bet my sword is a better shieldgryn sword than yours

32% block efficacy and +stam

[near wyvern]

Too bad deflector bloc reduction is bugged and doesn't work

[olive ember]

I mean

[rose dagger]

many people playing T5 are only doing it for the loot/plasteel, so still not quite as vast as the average legend and cata player skill gap

[olive ember]

I'll just afk

[feral verge]

rip

[near wyvern]

The blessing doesn't give any

[feral verge]

damn

[rose dagger]

Perhaps if they made plasteel spawn rate the same on T4 and T5, T5 would mostly be the good players looking for a challenge

[near wyvern]

The perks works tho

But max Stam seems to give more block efficiency for kinetic deflection

[feral verge]

@near wyvern is 3x stam curios viable lol

i've considered doing it

i have many of them

[near wyvern]

It's the only way to face tank a daemonhost

Haven't tried if you can face tank crusher and mauler overheads with it to

Plague ogryn overheads and stomp also still get through to stamina

[olive ember]

eh but then everyone would just play t4

[near wyvern]

It's quite funny to have +9 stamina with deflector and kinetic deflector, you have hard time getting your peril up even when focused by ranged and not dodging

[olive ember]

the only reason why the spawns on t5 were buffed up was because everyone only played on malice before

like t4 and t5 were all achievement hunters

and all the actually good players either made private lobbies or just grinded in malice

since it was just more efficient

[feral verge]

i almost want to try that lol

with my shieldgryn sword

shame its an obscurus

if it were a deimos that'd be amazing

maybe i have a deimos lying around for it

[rigid sky]

It's just sitting passively blocking feels like you're not getting anywhere

you can get enough bursts of emergency block with like one stamina curio

might be fine without it even, idk, haven't tried