psyker-class

[olive ember]

.>

[fresh reef]

So, Soulblaze feats are just dead now aside from AB's passive yeah?

[delicate stratus]

At least nobody cares about my voidstrike staff

[spice veldt]

voidstrike staff isn't real to me

[olive ember]

Hah that’s what you think

[spice veldt]

doesn't exist in this reality

[olive ember]

Voidstrike is now top tier after purge nerfs

Prepare to get nerfed

[spice veldt]

still good for unarmoured/infested

[olive ember]

Oh yeah the guy gave me a 9/10 psykers used purge staff it’s op

[delicate stratus]

Perhaps

But we all know the forbidden power

[olive ember]

And when I said I only see 1 in 4 psykers bring purge he called me an uprising player

[delicate stratus]

||recon laser||

[olive ember]

Lmao

[spice veldt]

if not it doesn't kill, it'll still damage them, though killing is the name of the game

[olive ember]

Of all things to call me an uprising player on its staff selection

[delicate stratus]

Purge is still good, it just isn't brain dead easy anymore against flak stuff

[olive ember]

Infernus got nerfed further into ground

[delicate stratus]

Yes, hence the forbidden nature

[spice veldt]

it does put more emphasis on the direct damage of the purg staff

which is the one part I do like

[fresh reef]

I'm not so sure about that statement

They didn't remove the brain dead part necessarily, just the easy part

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-stop-hes-already-dead-gif-15192144

They took balanced staff and niche funny builds

And made them worse

[spice veldt]

i suppose it is the nature of a weapon with a large conal hitbox

[delicate stratus]

but the easy part is spinning rapidly while flaming to stun a whole map

[olive ember]

10/10 fatshark balancing

[feral verge]

purga? braindead?

you know how fucking hard it is for me to hold down lmb the whole game?

[olive ember]

I mean that’s just the nature of flamer

[spice veldt]

and RMB

that's carpal tunnel causing stuff

[olive ember]

Changing dmg won’t change how you use it

It just makes it worse

[delicate stratus]

Was thinking a bit about the capstone feat choices for psyker

[olive ember]

Oh yeah the guy shit talked me because he thought full charge purge staff killing a mauler was op

[delicate stratus]

and had a pretty good think about how to make quicken more interesting

[spice veldt]

well, it's not killing a single mauler that's strong

[olive ember]

Cuz “horde clear only”

[spice veldt]

it's being able to kill groups of them

[olive ember]

I mean that’s assuming they are in a conga line

Cuz you have to basically full blast ‘em

[spice veldt]

it is a conal hitbox, and they're often advancing towards you

[feral verge]

you have zero concept of how many calculations i have to carry out in my head as i use purga. maintiang the perfect distance, holding rmb for the right amount of time, counting the burn stacks on my enemies, maping out the trajectory of my lmb. there's so much skill and hard math that goes into using purga, that it might as well be the most advanced and demanding weapon in the whole game, hands down

[spice veldt]

so unless you're directly near them where they surround you, the conal hitbox is enough to hit all of them usually

and there's the LMB staggering them

I think?

does the LMB stagger maulers?

[delicate stratus]

not really

It gives them a light stagger

which, tbh, is usually enough

[fresh reef]

LMB stagger is about the same as a usual push I think

[delicate stratus]

It's actually slightly stronger

[spice veldt]

it takes a bit, but you can kind of chain stagger them

[fresh reef]

That's if the coin that flips to decide whether or not the hitbox connects lands in your favor

[safe crystal]

I keep track of every burn stack on every enemy by writing them down on an A4 piece of paper in real time, its unimaginably complex

[spice veldt]

though it does take some time dedication to do that against maulers

[feral verge]

yeah same

[spice veldt]

i do think we do need to balance around the infinite cleave of the purg to some extent

[feral verge]

every game i get 0 overkill damage, because i ahve the stack count that precise

i apply the exact right amount of stacks to kill, without overkill

[spice veldt]

with WU, you microscopically control the amount of damage you do

[olive ember]

All I’m sayin is nerf bad

Pls Un nerf thx

[safe crystal]

That dreg stalker has 6 stacks, he will just barely die if i stop spraying now

[delicate stratus]

Well. If they nerfed purg/flamer...

Remove direct damage entirely and make all its damage reliant on stacking fire

[fresh reef]

Honestly don't even think flamer nerfs were that warranted

I don't play much zealot tho, so ootl

[spice veldt]

I think they were

[delicate stratus]

tbh I feel like it's a community skill issue to rely on flamer/purg so much

[safe crystal]

Hol' up, let me find my copy pasta

[spice veldt]

and flamers can still straight up annihilate groups of crushers

[delicate stratus]

But I also understand that zealots have a bad time with ammo economy

[spice veldt]

since Zealot's rending on F was left untouched

[whole oxide]

the nerfs directly to flamer were mostly warranted, but the global burn nerf was totally unneccesary and not even helpful

[delicate stratus]

It was probably cause of flame shotgun

[fresh reef]

How lol-worthy is 4 stack damage to flak armor now?

[delicate stratus]

being surprisingly strong

[spice veldt]

but I would like some more explanation from fatshark going into their intended design for the weapons

I'd say they've been looking at it as a target for nerfs since a while ago

since they can always tweak the flame shotgun to not go through walls or have infinite cleave

[delicate stratus]

They probably want to eliminate as many 'general purpose' weapons as possible and nudge people into specializing. Cause that promotes teamwork for people to cover each others weaknesses

[olive ember]

Flamer was worthy of nerf cuz you just held m1 and anything in a 22 meter range died

Including carapace

Cuz of their armor strip ability

[fresh reef]

Inb4 voidstrike stagger nerf

[spice veldt]

or press F to force enemies to be in that 22 meter range

[delicate stratus]

shhhh don't let fatshark figure that out

[olive ember]

But the problem is that the flak nerf specifically didn’t even hurt flamer that hard (it’s like 3 more ammo on a mauler)

But if fucks psyker

Especially the niche builds using wildfire or blazing spirit

4 stack AB etc etc

[fresh reef]

The meme of having a mandatory psyker nerf every patch continues to prove true

Where old BB audio

[spice veldt]

if I dump a full charge into maulers, the dot will still finish them off

oh right feats

f psyker soulblaze feats and blazing spirit

mandatory psyker nerf, though we have been eating good since the illisi and deimos

[vital flint]

Which power sword is the best performing one rn? Had some good times with the Deimos, wondering if it's a good melee option or just a feeling

[delicate stratus]

TBH i just want Wrack and Ruin to trigger on BB. not when hitting a specific kind of target.

[snow panther]

lvl3 blazing spirit worth getting from melk?

[delicate stratus]

So that a bb-burn build is possible

[fresh reef]

Would you rather

4% warp charges

More ways to get warp charges from soulblaze

[spice veldt]

:( force swords; deimos is pretty good yeah

[whole oxide]

it depends which ranged you're running. Illisi goes with Surge or guns, Deimos with purg/trauma/void

[spice veldt]

I personally like the Illisi more, but a lot of people here quite like the deimos

[delicate stratus]

Deimos got that arrow blade

[spice veldt]

I'm one of the outliers where I use my melee more, so the illisi satisfies that role for me

[delicate stratus]

It's a nice aesthetic

[fresh reef]

I run Illisi/Void. Tis fun

[spice veldt]

very fun to slide into a bunch of shooters and immediately kill a bunch of them

[whole oxide]

i mean, obviously run what you enjoy, but in terms of optimally covering as many scenarios, you don't need 2x horde clear

[spice veldt]

still pretty good for rushing a map

[fresh reef]

✨ variety ✨ horde clear

[delicate stratus]

For optimal meme potential, run trauma with a dagger

[spice veldt]

it's not as though the illisi is terrible at single target, and most elites hang out with other enemies

[fresh reef]

This was my beta loadout lol

[delicate stratus]

Hence, the meme.

[snow panther]

is collateral or stopping power more important on shredder

[vital flint]

I picked the Purgatus as ranged, something about the blue flames is quite epic

Dealing with pestilence the right way

[leaden thunder]

stopping power generally

as it effects damage

[olive ember]

Maximum meme involves the claw sword

You will be amazed as it takes like 3 lights to kill anything

2 heavies on the bucket head dregs

[spice veldt]

or heavies if you ever want to damage flak

[vital flint]

Ok, gonna stick to Deimos, thx, tried out the OG, didn't feel good, Deimos felt like it had a better horde combo and was good against elites

[fresh reef]

Rashad Mk2 and shredder, both at 85 rating on damnation

Meta loadout tbh

[spice veldt]

deimos 1st heavy has the same cleave and damage as the obscurus heavies so as long as you know how to drag your view, the hordeclear will pretty much be the same

[olive ember]

I fucking hate the deimos

[fresh reef]

Is there a reason to run Obscurus anymore?

[olive ember]

I run it cuz I perform better with it

[spice veldt]

imo, not particularly

[olive ember]

Technically better horde clear

Compared to the deimos

[spice veldt]

welllllllll

it's the ease of use for hordeclear that's better

but if you know to drag your camera around, then it's the same

deimos also has an easier time racking up slaughterer stacks against bruisers

[olive ember]

Not rly the fact that deimos horde combo starts with heavy makes it worse technically speaking

[spice veldt]

same goes for the illisi

[olive ember]

Light attack quickly staggers trash while heavy leaves you open

[spice veldt]

if you do it right out of a push

[snow panther]

wait, blessings are staff specific?

[olive ember]

Yes but the illisi also cuts through half the horde

[spice veldt]

i'm talking about normal illisi heavies

[olive ember]

And also I do actually perform worse on my illisi than my obscures kek

[spice veldt]

yup; all of our current staffs belong to different families

we just don't have any different marks of them

[olive ember]

Welcome to psyker

[spice veldt]

e.g., Trauma is one family, Voidstrike is another, Purgatus is another, etc.

[snow panther]

geeze

[spice veldt]

very clear and intuitive

I know

[fresh reef]

Patiently waiting for Voidstrike mk4

[snow panther]

but they do carry across force swords?

[spice veldt]

yup

[olive ember]

Yes

[spice veldt]

since they're all Blaze Force Swords

[olive ember]

Thankfully

[spice veldt]

it's the latter part of the weapon's name that indicates their family

[fresh reef]

Imagine having to get slaughterer for every different FS

[olive ember]

What was the force greatsword family class again

[spice veldt]

well, that's the rules so far

but who knows what fatshark will do

[feral verge]

bruuuuuuuuhh

just a few more minutes

and its melk time

this is gonna be epic

[spice veldt]

time to get milked by mommy melk

[feral verge]

loot will be changed forever

there's actually a halfway decent force sword in the shop rn

[primal plume]

What perk should i replace on this

[feral verge]

10000% crit hit damage

crit hit damage is bad

on every weapon

never take that perk

or a blessing that boosts it

it's that bad

change crit hit damage to flak armor dmg

[snow panther]

is this one ok

[primal plume]

hows this then

flak then

[feral verge]

maniac is nice

[feral verge]

maniac is a good perk, but you really want that to be at 25%

blazing spirit is a meme blessing

[past brook]

out of curiosity, do people have a favorite dueling sword? not that many people are likely to use one on psyker since the two new force swords came out, but still

[feral verge]

that sword can be salvaged

[feral verge]

my favorite dueling sword was mk4. then the deimos sword came out, and it's pretty much a better dueling sword in every single way

[fresh reef]

Mk5 has ludicrously good dodges

Since defence and mobility both stack dodge distance

[past brook]

isn't it capped though?

[fresh reef]

No idea

Assuming you mean a hard cap outside of 80/80

[past brook]

yes

[whole oxide]

personally preferred the Mk2, as it feels like it hits fastest

but since Deimos, haven't looked back

[feral verge]

dueling swords just have slightly better dodge/sprint speed and block efficacy , over deimos

that's it

dueling sword needs a big buff to compete

[primal plume]

420 blaze it

[feral verge]

another day without unstable power 4

rip

[lunar hollow]

YOOOO just got 3 VII taxes in melk shop

[ruby plover]

probably worth

[feral verge]

nope

i wouldnt

t3 blessings, meh perks

[primal plume]

stick with this or keep trying for 25% maniacs

[feral verge]

stick with that

there's a mod that makes rolling perks way better

[feral verge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/30

with this mod you can pick what rarity and perk type you want

[pearl lion]

OOOOH PAPA MELKY

[feral verge]

then it will auto roll for you

[primal plume]

why isnt it like that by default lmao

[feral verge]

fatshark

[primal plume]

whats the value in constant clicking

[snow panther]

is this good

[primal plume]

it becomes free after a few attempts anyway

[spice veldt]

it was intended to be a different system with increasing costs, but they presumably didn't have the time/resources to change how the entire system works

[snow panther]

not sure what stats are desirable on surge

[pearl lion]

Do we want low warp resistance on VS? I assume so?

[feral verge]

it's worth it for the t4 blessings

[whole oxide]

you mean you don't get an overpowering urge to spend $1000s in the cash shop while tediously clicking reroll over and over and over?

[spice veldt]

I wouldn't say I'd aim for low warp res, but I'd be fine with it

[feral verge]

but the perks are meh, and the stats are low on it

that said, i wouldnt buy a surge staff from melk

unless it was 100% perfect

because surge can be a grey, and still do it's job

[pearl lion]

Oh man other than the perks being eh, this thing is close to perfect then

[feral verge]

it doesnt need perks/blessings

[fresh reef]

just for the meme, I decided to buy one of Milk's mystery items

lmfao

[feral verge]

you got played

[spice veldt]

self-torture

ayy

[feral verge]

if they cant let brunt's giev you only 350+ items, melk's mystery store absolutely should

[pearl lion]

This is the real reason they moved the armoury next to melky. So he could more quickly grab a piece of shit from the brunts armoury any time someone buys a mystery box

[feral verge]

yoo

im praying for you

[olive ember]

8% elites bruh bruh

[feral verge]

that hadron dont brick it

[fierce sinew]

it's very likely that mystery store rolls from the same pool as the hourly requisitions

[spice veldt]

f

[feral verge]

f

[cold geode]

F

[torpid merlin]

warpnexus any good?

[fierce sinew]

I'm being mocked

[feral verge]

yes it's best in slot on purga

[torpid merlin]

o shit lol

[feral verge]

you want warp flurry and warp nexus on purgatus

[umbral beacon]

goddamn, just got the Going out with a Bang penance by accident

[torpid merlin]

ill have both 4 XD

[umbral beacon]

ive been trying for days to actively get this penance then i accidentally yeeted myself and got about 7 kills

[fierce sinew]

I'm about to have 5 level 30 psykers and 500 hours on the class farming for that with no success

[cold geode]

my baby

[fierce sinew]

everyone has it but me

[umbral beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-michael-fassbender-perfectionist-perfect-gif-7910211

[fierce sinew]

because I want it

[feral verge]

my ababby

[fierce sinew]

I have t4 flurry at least

[cold geode]

how is babby formed?

[mental junco]

does this affect the blast? lol

[cold geode]

only left mb on trauma

[mental junco]

then its a meme i think

[cold geode]

pretty much

[olive ember]

Oof trauma staff

[cold geode]

it does work on both lmb/rmb on void but thats about the only plus of it

[olive ember]

Both blessings only proc on lmb for trauma

Perfect staff for only lmb gaming

Had anyone actually used the staff for only lmb actually

Kek

Like an lmb staff build

[spice veldt]

sort of

i like the LMB for staggering reapers and gunners

and scab shooters get one-shot with a headshot

though as for a dedicated pure LMB build

that's some shit that I would only run on sedition or uprising

[cold geode]

well... first time in a while but melk has nothing i want/need

[olive ember]

@ember hornet is Darcy baiting or generally have bad takes

Out of curiosity

Also this is the wrong chat

[spice veldt]

get out of here you god damn vet chat partaker

[olive ember]

Sorry what was that vet main?

[spice veldt]

former vet main

[ember hornet]

Darcy is always baiting 100% of the time

[spice veldt]

reformed after years of waiting for a bootleg power sword

[leaden thunder]

^

[spice veldt]

i got baited by darcy with a fake weapon

that bastard

[olive ember]

Lmao

The all 100%

[spice veldt]

yeah

[olive ember]

He’s pretty convincing ngl

Prob cuz he sticks to his baits

[ember hornet]

it's cause there is nothing else, it's all bait

[normal sequoia]

Should I get this new Antax to replace my current one on my Psyker? Also gosh, I wish weapon sharing was a thing, because it would have been perfect for my zealot/vet 😩

[olive ember]

Tho at some point it’s like you are so good at baiting that you aren’t baiting anymore

[tepid sinew]

Is blast radius important on the voidstrike?

[safe crystal]

Not really

[olive ember]

I think it’s better?

[spice veldt]

probably, if you've got the coins to spare or you plan on using the antax for a long period

voidstrike's blast radius only really scales the outer area, and the epicentre has a cleave limit

so it's pretty much a stat you can ignore unless you value the stagger

[olive ember]

I mean if @ember hornet and @leaden thunder have their way antax is gonna be nerfed too

[leaden thunder]

[spice veldt]

I do think that infinite cleave is problematic

[feral verge]

i left a high intensity hounds damn game

[honest drift]

so i finally got a wep from the limited time weekly shop with warp nexus 4, i sacrificed the wep at hadron but its not showing up? WTF do i do

[olive ember]

Shut

[feral verge]

there was a psyker with a surge staff and 2 wounds

[spice veldt]

though in practice you're not hitting that many with antax anyways

[feral verge]

i knew how this was gonna end

[spice veldt]

you probably sacrificed a different staff

[safe crystal]

All staves have different blessing pools. Was it for voidstrike?

[spice veldt]

purg/trauma/surge blessings can not go onto voidstrike

[ember hornet]

infinite cleave should be nerfed, buff base cleave a bit, call it a day

[tepid sinew]

Just grabbed this from the armory

[honest drift]

oh i wasnt aware it had to be the same staff

[fresh reef]

lol

[honest drift]

thats annoying

[feral verge]

oh rip. warp nexus isnt very good on voidstirke, wouldnt have gotten that

[spice veldt]

yeah, all of our current staffs belong to different families

[honest drift]

fuck sake

[spice veldt]

as far as I can tell, the rule is that the latter part of a weapon's name indicates the family it belongs to (and thus the weapons to and from which blessings can be shared)

[honest drift]

how the hell are u supposed to know that lmfao

[flat vigil]

So with the new patch does Deflector become mandatory?

[spice veldt]

it's not very intuitive at all

not explained in-game

I only know this after 900 hours of this game lmao

[honest drift]

literally doesnt say that anywhere

is it the same for melee weapons

[spice veldt]

yup

[honest drift]

jesus

well thats a mistake i make only once atleast

[spice veldt]

infantry lasguns, recon lasguns, Combat Axes, Tactical Axes, etc.

[honest drift]

thought i got screwed

well i did

but i thought it was a bug

[normal sequoia]

tbh, I am currently using antax because I have an absolute worst time trying to get a decent Illisi rn, thanks to the RNG

[tepid sinew]

Is this good or bad? I dont know anything about the new force swords that got added

[spice veldt]

stat distribution-wise, it's not ideal but passable. Blazing Spirit is not a great blessing, and the perks are ok as long as you replace critical damage

[normal sequoia]

Speaking of Illisi, this worth using and refining/reblessing or should I scrap it and start over? was hoping for a T3 slaughterer at least

[spice veldt]

I would not buy it from melk's

[normal sequoia]

but yet again, RNG strikes again

[spice veldt]

seems passable if you replace crit chance with something like +flak; not the best or most ideal, but I'd be fine with using it if it's that's what you've got

[normal sequoia]

gotcha, and as for blessings? Like Severian Void above, I am kinda in the dark about the current force sword meta as well

[safe crystal]

Its pretty good, unstable wording is shit and it goes up to 4 stacks of whatever % you have, at 20/40/60/80. Get a flak instead of crit

[normal sequoia]

especially on Illisi/Deimos

[safe crystal]

Upgrade the slaughterer if you can

[spice veldt]

illisi if you primarily melee, use guns/surge staff; deimos otherwise

[feral verge]

YOOOOOOO

[spice veldt]

I personally like the illisi since I always like my melee having good hordeclear, and I primarily melee

[feral verge]

IM GONNA CARRY WITH TIHS THING

OMFG GAME CHANGER

THANKS HADRON

[vestal raven]

keep crit chance or change it out?

[olive ember]

He got skaleek’d

[feral verge]

keep

[vestal raven]

alright

[feral verge]

crits are the only way surge can do damage

[spice veldt]

well, against unarmoured and infested

otherwise crits are like a 25% damage boost

[long osprey]

Using this sword now:

Its nice with surge staff

With AB and wildfire i can continue to spread the fire as i fight

[runic hornet]

level 4 bloodthirsty + blazing spirit seems fun

but is it actually effective compared to slaughterer

[primal plume]

Over 400 attempts

what the actual fuck

[upper sage]

Does the +100% crit chance mean garunteed crits or doubled crit chance?

[spice veldt]

guaranteed crit chance for the next attack

[primal radish]

and will it crit the next attack if you charge up another special? so basically always critting

[viral solstice]

theres no multiplicative crit chance in the game at all btw

its all flat

so u never need to worry about that

[whole oxide]

blazing spirit is mostly pointless, as its pretty rare that you'll hit something enough times to build up stacks, and for it to not already be dead from all those hits

[spice veldt]

bloodthirsty only disappears if you attack or wait 5 seconds; so yeah you can charge a special and have that crit as long as you didn't attack or wait too long

or blazing spirit will require you to intentionally avoid hitting the enemies that you afflicted with soulblaze to get the full benefit of the DoT

at least without wildfire, but even I find that to be meh because wildfire doesn't target enemies that already have 4 or more soulblaze stacks

[primal plume]

what curios are good for psyker

perks rather

[whole oxide]

sniper resist is a lifesaver, given that with psykers toughness/hp they can pretty much 1-shot you on damnation

[spice veldt]

toughness regen speed is universally good if you tend to stick with your team

[primal radish]

also does bloodthirsty work on the next hit, if you miss swings in between? So if I kill with special, and miss 2 swings and hit 3rd swing, the 3rd swing will crit?

[spice veldt]

unfortunately not; it is consumed on a swing even if it misses

[primal radish]

ah ok

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/12bzsyg/why_was_soulblaze_nerfed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

A good Reddit take

Finally

[vestal raven]

why is this on my pysker

[feral verge]

oh yo

we just played together

im Mai

[vestal raven]

ayyyyy

nice plays gamer

[feral verge]

yee you too

[vestal raven]

x)

[long osprey]

YEah its more of a fun build as this sword had blazing spirit and i had the IV blood thirsty blessing already

Psyker got over 12k plasteel and diamantine so I can play with it for builds

[olive ember]

Was he good

Or was he a filthy purge staff user

[long osprey]

Even with the nerf purge staff still melts tbh

[olive ember]

Shush

No talking I wanna cry about Psyker nerfs

Also it’s not rly the purge staff itself it’s everything else that utilizes burn

[twilit flicker]

damn shame about the revolver, feels strong and sounds beefy but it takes many shots to kill a crusher, I guess you need perfect damage modifiers? plz buff the revolver fatshark

[fresh reef]

ayo?

[runic hornet]

it is time

and yes I did roll for 25% infested

[ornate hamlet]

overkill damage horde sword

[potent glade]

time to block some bullets

[fallow falcon]

What is the curio meta for psyker and can I make this any good for it?

[potent glade]

thats pretty good for my setup not sure whats meta though

[ornate hamlet]

i personally put 1 health and 2 toughness

[spice veldt]

depends;
toughness regen speed is always good
I personally like stamina regen on all classes

I like to stay away from my team and be a loot goblin, so I stack sprint efficiency

[potent glade]

throw toughness regen on over dockets and its pretty solid

[ornate hamlet]

health + health/block/sniper
tough + tough/staregen/sniper
tough + tough/staregen/sniper

havent maxed the stuff yet, so it gets me about 140 toughness and 180 health

[lethal folio]

55% total sniper resist is good enough to block a wound worth of hp.

less if you add health.

[ornate hamlet]

cant recall the last time i ate a sniper shot (i lie, it was yesterday), so sometimes i think of changing sniper to something else

[fallow falcon]

Sniper resist has diminishing returns I believe, caps somewhere around 39% reduction last I heard

But that's just going off other reports in this discord, never tested myself

[ornate hamlet]

the surprise gunner to the back from above happened to me only once, but it really fucking pissed me

also theres the whole "the more toughness you have, the more toughness your level 5 feats regen"

[lethal folio]

It's not diminishing returns, but it is easier to say 55% and understand that as 20+20+15 than explain how it multiplies.

[fallow falcon]

Fair enough

[spice veldt]

I suppose it is diminishing returns in regards to different curios

[ornate hamlet]

with 20%, wouldnt it be 1,2 x 1,2 x 1,2?

[spice veldt]

since they stack multiplicatively, and three +20% damage resistances leads to 51.2% damage taken instead of 40%

[ornate hamlet]

yep

the magic of multiplying numbers instead of adding them

[blazing oak]

I actually feel like a psyker talking to a blunt on the Reddit when they try to argue that this game is about IG weapons so my Polearm suggestion (with examples) wouldn’t work

[ornate hamlet]

what are ig weapons and why are polearms a possibility

[fallow falcon]

Baffles me that people still think psyker is weak

[ornate hamlet]

i mean, i think they would be cool, but arent they one of the last things you want for point blank combat?

[spice veldt]

maybe pre-patch thinking

and it's true that we do lack burst ranged DPS

[feral verge]

hmm so is 3x sniper resist not worth it?

[spice veldt]

unless you run a gun

[ornate hamlet]

people who think psyker is weak dont understand psykers strengths

we do everything

[fallow falcon]

Easily the most versatile class

[steel flame]

Let them keep thinking that. It shall lead us to even greater power

[fallow falcon]

Can use a shredder with no downsides

[spice veldt]

being able to deal with bulwarks is a pretty big checkmark in my book

[unkempt juniper]

whats a good dump stat on voidstrike staffs

[blazing oak]

It was a zealot suggestion, and the point is to utilize the range to zone them out

That’s the point of a spear

[spice veldt]

blast radius or warp resistance (with transfer peril)

[blazing oak]

You’re applying short weapon combat solutions to long weapon combat

[ornate hamlet]

sounds a bit odd considering the way hordes try to surround you in the game, but with the system it could just work like in vermintide

[spice veldt]

blast radius only really scales the outer radius, and the epicentre has a cleave limit anyways

warp resistance is a non-issue if you have transfer peril

[ornate hamlet]

i honestly always found it a bit odd to use the halberd and spear on kruber

[blazing oak]

Well if it worked there it can work here

[ornate hamlet]

the range was undeniably bigger and it came in play several times, but swinging a long weapon at point blank in a horde is realistically going to lead to your death in 2 seconds

but its a game, so who gives a shit

games are meant to be fun, not realistic

[blazing oak]

Then hold it closer to the pointy bit

[fallow falcon]

Will T4 Pinning Fire even make a noticeable difference in TTK at this point?

[blazing oak]

But also the hordes usually come one way so you can dodge backwards to keep range

[primal plume]

what staff should I be using?

[ornate hamlet]

if the polearm gets sweep attacks, which i think it should, it could be some impressive area denial

[blazing oak]

IG weapons = imperial guard weapons

[blazing oak]

That’s why I suggested power halberd, both sweep and thrust attack

[ornate hamlet]

and hopefully not that shitty diagonal combo kruber had

[steel flame]

I'm sure theyll nuture it with some stupid stab attacks mid sweep

[ornate hamlet]

oh dear, tuskgor merc was so fucking good

[blazing oak]

But the guy was saying IG weapons and IG doesn’t fight in melee so no big weapons for you

[spice veldt]

neither is particularly ideal, but I'd pick the left one for the perks, transfer peril, and better stat distribution. You could make an argument for right one with warp flurry though

[ornate hamlet]

the attack speed was the only limitation to that thing

[blazing oak]

And like what this is a melee game so I don’t understand that argument

[ornate hamlet]

after you proc swift slaying and mercs attack speed, that thing goes to town

[twilit flicker]

We're also not in the guard

We're not even in the inquisition it looks like, but we are working for them. Is that right?

[grizzled jasper]

some psykers been hitting the gym just look at this champ taking a sniper shot

[ornate hamlet]

we get welcomed to the inquisition at level 30, i think

[grizzled jasper]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/11uhrvvAux1feo/d1337lcFoBkO?invite=cr-MSxDVFQsMTczOTM4NDQ3LA

[ornate hamlet]

i love snipers behind me tbh

during a horde

it means i can flex my sixth sense to whoever died to the sniper

woe art thou to whom the sniper displayeth not the red laser, albeit

for it happenedth to mine person a non-zero amount of occasions

[twilit comet]

Question for the masses: What are your top 4 (or 5, doesn't matter) PERKS on CURIOS for the psyker?

[spice veldt]

stamina regen, sprint efficiency, +toughness, toughness regen speed

[ornate hamlet]

health, toughness, block efficiency, stamina regen, maybe sniper resist idfk last slot gets a bit varied

toughness regen is baller to fight shit with your mates

super rewards good horde management

[twilit flicker]

Toughness regen speed, Toughness, Health, Stamina Regen, Dockets (lmao).

[ornate hamlet]

i put block cost because sometimes i just really need to revive a dude in the middle of like 26 fucking crushers

figurative fucking

[spice oar]

Wounds and max health walking around tougher than an ogryn

[ornate hamlet]

the 4 wounds psyker walking around blasting tubthumping on the microphone after eating 5 sniper shots and getting picked up by the ogryn

[spice oar]

Snipers wish they could hit me smh

[twilit flicker]

I get hit on purpose by snipers just so I can give the horde a chance lol

[spice oar]

I let the crusher hit me so he can feel good about himself before I blow his head smooth off

Space wizard shit

[twilit flicker]

I cosplay as a veteran with my autopistol, just so the vets can have a good example to look up to

[blazing oak]

I get downed so other players don’t feel bad about themselves

[spice oar]

I cos play as commissar with dueling sowed and Las pistol, so my vets feel right at home

Side note when the inevitable squad leader vet class comes out thatll be my life blood

[fallow falcon]

Still not decided on what curios to run as psyker. Got 3 health curios and a +3 stamina one that are decent

Wounds is obviously a meme but I can see the case for toughness as well

[spice oar]

I run 1 wound to be safe

[fallow falcon]

The other classes don't really have a choice

[spice oar]

O and sprint efficency cause I feel superior

[olive cairn]

Wound curio is a sign of weakness

[twilit flicker]

Psykers are weak, take it at face value

[autumn moth]

kamikaze penance players desperately trying to turn their weakness into strength:

[twilit flicker]

It's called coping lmao

[spice oar]

I still don't have that fucking penance

[fallow falcon]

Its easy to get, the problem is that you need a group to set it up

[spice oar]

It's hard to find an opportunity and also im not kicking my team in the ass for it

[spice oar]

Exactly and I quick play only

[olive cairn]

Psyker should have curio to double radius and dmg of kamikaze

[sullen bobcat]

Psyker on overload should immediately turn into a daemonhost

[olive cairn]

Ha

[spice oar]

Psykers controls should be reversed on high peril cause the changer of ways

[sullen bobcat]

I've always wanted Sienna in vt2 to be able to just ult and then turn into a chaos spawn and instantly die because she lost control

[olive ember]

I mean sienna wouldn’t turn into chaos spawn

Iirc she’d have to be under a chaos god

[sullen bobcat]

Chaos spawn are just massive mutations for fiddling with magic and not being able to control it

A chaos undivided sort of spawn

Yeah chaos spawn are just rampant mutation where you lose both mind and body

[feral verge]

• dodge count or + dodge distance would be a neat curio

[olive ember]

So I think sienna would just become a pyromaniac and blow herself up

[autumn smelt]

NOOOO

I TAB IN TO SEE DESMOS SCIENTIFIC CALCULATOR

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-hallway-scene-homelander-scene-phone-gif-26272083

anyway

pog

[feral verge]

yea that's pog

[autumn smelt]

god roll gets even more god

[sullen bobcat]

Do crits even increase damage that much?

I don't know if it affects the burn or just the projectile

[feral verge]

mine

[feral verge]

crit's on purga and flamer double the burn stacks on an enemy

so instead of applying 1 stack of burn, it applies 2 when crit

[autumn smelt]

which is why crit chance is the way to go when stacked with warp nexus

[cold geode]

wow they actually updated vicious slices, it says stagger now

[feral verge]

it definitely adds up, especially in hi5 damnation where you can get over 1k criticals in a game

the most crits i;ve ever had is 1.6k

[autumn smelt]

also kind crazy how melk basically just sold quite a good purg staff right off the bat for me today

my psyker gets all the luck

[vagrant frigate]

be vet
use shredder pistol
yell at and gatekeep psyker from using shredder
has buff that increases ranged damage by 50%
still get outperformed by 150k damage by psyker

[north cradle]

I just got Headhunter 4, what should I replace

[vagrant frigate]

falter

[feral verge]

i think most vets share around 4 braincells, amongst eachother

[vagrant frigate]

indeed

[sullen bobcat]

2 of them are used to turn on the power sword

[vagrant frigate]

im chilling watching yt and this guys just like

[ruby plover]

t-thanks hadron

[vagrant frigate]

"man i love it when psyker fucks take all the ammo"

[cold geode]

vets are the orange cats of darktide

[feral verge]

f

[ruby plover]

a camo expert vet that wouldn't drop until the room was fully cleared complained at me about picking up ammo earlier

[vagrant frigate]

still can get a good blessing

[feral verge]

i hate those

[north cradle]

Other question, should I stick to the orange one or try to upgrade green

[sullen bobcat]

Stick to the orange

You want a base stat usually of 360+

The number on the right side in the middle group

To the right of all the other stats like damage/mobility

[feral verge]

oh yeah? peep my level 300 godroll

[north cradle]

Even if Stopping Power is kinda ass?

[sullen bobcat]

Honestly, the right is way better since you don't really need mobility on guns imo

[autumn smelt]

yea the right one is significantly bettter

[forest coral]

Vet when the space magic wizard pulls out a glock

[autumn smelt]

stopping power is the damage and stagger against specific enemy health types

so the lower it is, the lower damage and stagger youre going to deal

[ruby plover]

vets when the gangsta gunkers do twice tbeir damage

[north cradle]

Oh, legit? I thought it just measured Stagger inflicted on those enemies

[autumn smelt]

read the substats

[ruby plover]

stopping power differs based on what gun its on

sometimes its just stagger

but i mean its not like stagger is bad either

[autumn smelt]

iirc with lazguns its both

right?

[ruby plover]

i think its always stagger

[feral verge]

knife zealot with sedition border on hi5 hmmmmmmm

[ruby plover]

and sometimes also damage %

[autumn smelt]

i could just be stupid

[north cradle]

Well that's kind of annoying

[autumn smelt]

but you still want stagger

[north cradle]

"Stopping power measures stagger. It also measures damage to armoured enemies, but we're not going to tell you that in the description of the stat itself"

[north cradle]

Sir that is the Malice border

[ruby plover]

well

the description does say it

[autumn smelt]

most stuff youre shooting has flak so

[ruby plover]

wait are there multiple descriptions

[north cradle]

Does it

[ruby plover]

yeah you have to inspect or some shit

and theres better descriptions that show everything it affects

🥴

[cyan notch]

i mean 90% of the chart says damage

[fiery zodiac]

As a returning Psyker what's a top tier meta loadout I can start farming for so I can begin pushing difficulties?

[pearl sail]

simply pick a staff and win

[fiery zodiac]

That easy huh?

[pearl sail]

for perks i dont know what you like doing

but anything should work

[spice veldt]

all staffs are pretty good, though surge is considered the most mid among them all

but it's a perfectly workable staff if you're good at melee

[pearl sail]

^

[spice veldt]

for your melee picks, the deimos and illisi blaze force swords are popular options nowadays

[orchid shadow]

sad Surge Psyker noises

[spice veldt]

the illisi being usually paired with surge/guns and deimos with the other staffs

[pearl sail]

here are my perks

[fiery zodiac]

I'm a big fan of the fire staff, I'm just not sure what to roll on it, and illisi looks really cool as well

[pearl sail]

my dump stat is warp resist on my staffs

if your quell speed is high enough the down time wont matter

plus it plays into your toughness perk really well

[brazen basalt]

it does conflict with warp flurry though.

[cyan notch]

warp res scale isnt very large on all staves

[brazen basalt]

especially on trauma, you really benefit from stacking it and popping more. while with low warp resist you hit full heat faster than you can get 5 stacks.

[cyan notch]

so it kinda doesnt really affect it too much

its like a 5% variance maybe from min to max

[brazen basalt]

plus you need to grab that resist feat on t2.

[pearl sail]

yea the blessings/feats are whats important

[brazen basalt]

it's 5% per each pop, no?

and not like 5% diff, but actual heat points.

don't know the proper math term for it in english, but like the difference between 1% of full bar and 6% of full bar is 5 percentile points, but 600% relatively.

[cyan notch]

yeah but its not 5% in practice

i was just giving 5% as an example for a 100 stat weapon

which nobody has so 80% is about like 4% from 0

and youre not going to have a 0 warp res weapon

[brazen basalt]

true.

[cyan notch]

so in reality the difference is only 2-3% peril

[spice veldt]

the difference between the min and max for the trauma is 14% peril, so it's 0.14% peril per 1% stat point assuming it's linear scaling

[long wharf]

another patch come and gone without needed blessings adjustments for staves

[brazen basalt]

ye an immense pile of stuff to fix. which doesn't happen.

[north cradle]

WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

[autumn smelt]

whats the reason to use 1 on the 3rd column instead of 3?

cuz with 3 on the 5th column im pretty much always at max charges

[pearl sail]

free warp charge just for killing

[autumn smelt]

i mean yeah
but 5 already does that doesnt it

[pearl sail]

its just more uptime for the stacks

improves damage overall

[autumn smelt]

i guess, maybe depending on the staff you use

[pearl sail]

you could run a 2 for that slot if you like your teammates

[autumn smelt]

cuz im always at 4 because of that auto bb feat

[pearl sail]

but uh

[autumn smelt]

idk maybe im just a destiny player at heart and love me damage debuffs

[olive ember]

fucking destiny player

opinion disregarded

bleh hi int poxhounds

sounds like no fun

[autumn smelt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/887749045144129566/975610387900825681/output-onlinegiftools.gif

actually now that i think about it

you could probably easily get that ogryn penance with psykinetics aura

the distance one

even more so on hunting grounds

[olive ember]

some people said so but i think its kinda finicky

you would have to have the ogryn charge into your coherency range, then you need to quickly kill a bunch of elites

and then the ogryn has to charge again

[autumn smelt]

yeah

thats not too bad

you got 20 seconds to do itg

[cyan notch]

destiny gif

[autumn smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/cayde6-cayde-destiny2-destiny-death-gif-23687377

[olive ember]

whats worse

a destiny player

or an overwatch player

[autumn smelt]

depends

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/thonk-thinking-sun-thonk-sun-thinking-sun-gif-14999983

[autumn smelt]

would depend on how into the game they are

[worn bolt]

finally got an illi, what blessings' should I look for? also should I reroll anything? if so, what

[autumn smelt]

competitive overwatch player > no life destiny player > casual destiny player > casual overwatch player

in descending order of bad

[cyan notch]

shred to slaughterer

[spice veldt]

I'd also replace melee crit chance with maniac

[autumn smelt]

man i was gonna finish my ogryn weeklies but

i just really am not too much of a fan of being the size of a house

[cyan notch]

delete it

[cold bane]

So how mad lad is taking a Las-gun on a Psyker? It has worked well for me to far into lvl 28 and 4 bar missions... but like... is this a habit I should break? Or one I can lean into?

[shut ether]

OK so if I'm getting this right FS just nerfed the already weak soulblaze talents instead of pinning fire?

[autumn smelt]

seems like it

[shut ether]

I mean I never played Gun Psyker but that was out of left field.

[autumn smelt]

caught in the flamer crossfire

[cyan notch]

if its working for you and u like the gun go for it just keep in mind your toughness regen is gonna be a little scuffed

[shut ether]

I started levelling a preacher and I feel like I'm playing on EZ mode

[autumn smelt]

i really need to make a zealot

[shut ether]

It's actually a lot of fun being a backline disruptor

[worn bolt]

there a limit on how many times i can reroll stats? i just now realized that the price went down to 0

[shut ether]

Once it hits 0 you can reroll indefinitely without cost

[cyan notch]

and depending on your lasgun you might need to be wary of your ammo at higher difficulties

[shut ether]

There is a mod that can auto-roll for you

[runic hornet]

i used to play a lot of mg12 gunpsyker

not much reason to play it these days I think though

autopistol psyker is so much more powerful

[timid storm]

What was the nerf?

Aside from to flak armor

[shut ether]

That's it

Flak is a large portion of the enemies who are any threat though

I don't even play Soulblaze builds but I feel for my siblings

[cyan notch]

soulblaze armour mod was actually 2x before

so now its 1x

[gloomy yarrow]

Wish it was 1.5 or something around that cuz of all of psykers soul blaze talents

[idle bay]

Just to check - Purgatus enjoyers are slightly sad now?

[gloomy yarrow]

Yes

[cyan notch]

no

doesnt really affect purg

its more ascendant blaze

[idle bay]

That is auto-select for Purgatus

[fierce sinew]

barrage stonks do be looking higher

[fierce sinew]

not anymore

it's still good, but definitely close now

[cyan notch]

before the change i wasnt using it that much recently with the addition of shock troops kinetic barrage with aura is way better than ab

[fierce sinew]

before I was doing kinetic barrage aura for shock troops and AB for everything else, now I think it's more comp specific

I'll still AB with vets

[cyan notch]

in a premade yea probably

hell no with randoms im taking kb every time

[unkempt juniper]

which perk should i swap for deflector

[olive ember]

Shred

Easily

[sullen bobcat]

Slaughterer imo

[olive ember]

as of now if a weapon has slaughterer you take it

[sullen bobcat]

Force swords have high finese

So higher crit is more valuable

[olive ember]

crit is trash

in general

[fresh reef]

Crit damage is very bad on melees

[ruby plover]

wait

are u for real

i thought u were trolling when u said drop slaughterer

[olive ember]

i thought so too

lmao

I mean its true that FS has a finesse stat and therefore a "crit weapon"

but

[ruby plover]

that is actually the single worst piece of advice i've ever seen posted in this discord

including troll advice

holy

[olive ember]

Nah I've heard worse

[unkempt juniper]

this doesn't seem like bad crit dmg tbh

[fresh reef]

Raw power increase < miniscule crit increase

[olive ember]

what you have to realize is that power increase is damage, cleave, stagger

slaughterer IV gives you up to 75% power increase for killing things

75% more damage, cleave, stagger

tbh tho its a deimos so the only argument is that you won't be killing trash often with it to build up stacks but like

[fresh reef]

Compared to a 25% chance to deal weakspot damage on body hits

lul

[sullen bobcat]

It's on-kill which implies you're in a position where you're clearing with a single target weapon

[ruby plover]

25% chance only after 5 consecutive hits with no block or neutral stance

:)

dawg

[sullen bobcat]

ANd a 25% chance to do double damage, so it's a 50% increase on average

On-hit

[fresh reef]

Ok you have to be trolling

[ruby plover]

LMAO

double damage guys

how long u been playin darktide lil homie

[fresh reef]

There is no fucking way you're deadass

[sullen bobcat]

Which is much more useful when you pull out a deimos for when you're doing single target

[ruby plover]

go on

[olive ember]

I mean

[cyan notch]

it is double damage for fs

[sullen bobcat]

Look at the screenshot above. It's legitimately double damage

[olive ember]

if you are only pulling it out for single target

just don't use deflector

kek

[ruby plover]

are you

are you body shotting with deimos?

[olive ember]

for general use you want deflector + slaughterer

for single target only you want unstable power + slaughterer

[sullen bobcat]

Still a 40 increase

[ruby plover]

that requires you to be in a combo after 5 consecutive hits with no block or neutral drop

hmmmmm

[fresh reef]

I'm genuinely baffled how you're implying it's better than slaughterer

[ruby plover]

if only there was another blessing that gave damage after hitting things

[fresh reef]

Like

[ruby plover]

but maybe gave more damage

and also cleave and stagger

[fresh reef]

How

[ruby plover]

and doesnt drop on neutral

[fresh reef]

The fuck

Are you serious

[sullen bobcat]

Yes

Issue?

[fresh reef]

I don't fucking believe you

[ruby plover]

75% > 10%

[olive ember]

@ruby plover do I look like a vet on copium enough?

[sullen bobcat]

I'd prefer crit for the high finese weapon especially since I don't like on-kill effects in general

[ruby plover]

its that simple

[olive ember]

I'll start every game with "psword nerfs unplayable"

[ruby plover]

i think everyone with beta helmet is a vet

so

yes!

[sullen bobcat]

Beta helmet looks dumb tbh

Especially on psyker

[ruby plover]

better than actually being dumb

[cyan notch]

why do u have your taskbar half cut off every screenshot

[sullen bobcat]

You must have first-hand experience, huh

[ruby plover]

the fuck

[humble star]

I'm still shocked neither force sword got a nerf this patch tbh, now I'm nervous it's coming.

[sullen bobcat]

🙂

[humble star]

Besides the bugfix

[olive ember]

honestly idk I just ctrl alt printscreen

[sullen bobcat]

The force swords don't feel overperforming

[ruby plover]

fuck off man

[fresh reef]

Bro mad he got dunked on

[ruby plover]

[olive ember]

Then again I run windowed so when I steam stream game on laptop

it doesn't fucking break

[ruby plover]

steam stream

[sullen bobcat]

Doesn't windowed lower FPS because you have more stuff loaded in RAM?

[humble star]

Def do to me. Oneshot mutie version or the better heavysword version. Both have unlimited dodges and the best push in the game IMO.

[sullen bobcat]

This game runs okay but not the best imo

[fresh reef]

Marginally

[humble star]

but if FS doesn't think so I'll take it

[unkempt juniper]

so which do i drop? slaughterer3 or shred 4?

[ruby plover]

depends

[fresh reef]

Sorta leans into the whole glass cannon thing they seem to have in mind

[ruby plover]

would you rather have 10% average damage bonus or 75% average damage + stagger + cleave

[sullen bobcat]

It's also context. In the actual tabletop, psykers are squishy as hell, but the force sword just deletes something if you actually manage to get through lines and try to melee down a psyker

So that's sorta the force sword

[north cradle]

After playing with the Illisi during a High Intensity Doggo Swarm, I think I'm even angrier at the Obscurus for not being even close to being as good as it or the Deimos

[ruby plover]

obscurus

it tried

[sullen bobcat]

It might be overperforming a bit defensively, but I think the current damage is fine for what the force sword is meant to be in lore and tabletop

[fresh reef]

Here's an idea for Obscurus; make it do what the Ironhelm tried to do

[north cradle]

The only question I can ask of Obscurus is "Why?"

[humble star]

Unlimited dodges with deflector kinda go against being glass tho. I love it don't get me wrong. But f-sword has a stupid amount of advantages compared to literally every other psyker melee weapon now.

[fresh reef]

Add a smaller Psykinetic's Wrath on special hit

Might be interesting

[sullen bobcat]

Yeah non-force weapons kinda got shit on with the illsi and deimos

[fierce sinew]

on what planet do either of those things have balance implications for this game

[runic hornet]

antax is still good

[humble star]

And you don't ever need deflector with unlimited dodge

[runic hornet]

but that's because it's antax

[worn bolt]

holy shit you guys weren't kidding, the illi really is the power sword lite™

[sullen bobcat]

Because this game tries to follow tabletop. We have things like that teamwork aura which is a reimagination of the same thing in tabletop

[cyan notch]

melee weapons having damaging push attack is really nice too

[runic hornet]

illisi is better than powersword with the wildfire buil

[cyan notch]

fs u aint get shit along with ultra high block cost

[ruby plover]

well

its just better

[sullen bobcat]

Warhammer 40k is firstmost a tabletop game

[runic hornet]

ult->drop stacks on enemies->pull out illisi with slaughter+unstable power

[humble star]

straight up better version now Which is why im nervous

[runic hornet]

stroke your sword a bunch and everything starts melting

[north cradle]

With the recent nerf, the Illisi really is just a Power Sword Lite

[ruby plover]

except

[runic hornet]

while you admire your sword

[ruby plover]

its better

[north cradle]

But it also has the attack speed of a Duelling Sword

[hollow current]

infinite dodges

[runic hornet]

also yeah the illisi is also infinite dodges and also attacks faster period

[worn bolt]

its crazy good, has amazing blocking, huge cleave, great armor pen

fucking does ridiculous damage

[north cradle]

If the Catachan Claw Swords had a faster attack speed, I think it might outclass a non-Power Cycler Power Sword

[runic hornet]

it's busted and needs some aspect of it taken down, tbh, but the biggest problem is its blessings

unstable power+slaughterer is not okay lmao

[ruby plover]

unstable is fiiiine

slaughterer okay

yeah

no contest there

[runic hornet]

yeah unstable power is fine by itself

[humble star]

Infinite dodges is the most broken shit nobody seems to mention. I would take a potato damage weapon if it had unlimited dodges. But here we are with it being compared to power sword

[cyan notch]

its blocking is actually one of the worst

[runic hornet]

but you can stack it with slaughterer to produce unholy results

[north cradle]

I might swap from Psykinetic's Aura to Psychic Communion with how many hordes I'm busting down

[fierce sinew]

is there actual evidence FS took this very common gameplay mechanic from a 40k tabletop game specifically

[ruby plover]

i dont really know why any of the power boosts go above like

25% from a single source

[fierce sinew]

not memeing, genuinely perplexed

[worn bolt]

I meant the block stagger/ push

[ruby plover]

like what the fuck is the deal with pinning fire that's obviously just stupid

hello

[sullen bobcat]

The block is only good because of the perk that turns block into peril

[worn bolt]

Running this as a meme on it and it still doesn't matter I kill everything anyway

[sullen bobcat]

It's really low stamina for a melee

[ruby plover]

a meme?

thats

[runic hornet]

what's the meme

[ruby plover]

the second best blessing

[fresh reef]

He also thinks crit > slaughterer

[runic hornet]

it's 20% damage

[fresh reef]

So, lol

[cyan notch]

do u mean the push attack? the push? what is block stagger

[runic hornet]

because Fatshark Tooltips (tm)

[fierce sinew]

unstable isn't a meme

[ruby plover]

20% damage/stagger/cleave all the time

just stroke up

done

[north cradle]

I heard it's actually 5% per level of Peril

[runic hornet]

realistically you'll hover around 10-15% while you're busy killing things

[north cradle]

Like none, medium, high, AAAAA

[runic hornet]

but you'll START fights at 20%

[worn bolt]

wait so its 5% stacking? it says UP TO 5%

[fierce sinew]

it's 1 stack of n% at 20/40/60/80 peril

[ruby plover]

fatshark tooltips strike again

[north cradle]

Yeh

[runic hornet]

and regularly boost back up to 20% any time you get a lull

[worn bolt]

well I run warp battery so I regularly sit at 6 stacks

kek

[runic hornet]

it's also 20% to any dots you have running, cough, wildfire build

[ruby plover]

its peril

[hollow current]

from gray to orange. thanks for the new brick Hadron

[north cradle]

kek

[ruby plover]

not warp charges

[humble star]

not to mention nobody even needs to block when you never run out of dodge

[worn bolt]

oh yeah'

[runic hornet]

i unironically run +infested on my illisi

[ruby plover]

this isnt bad tho

[worn bolt]

so where the fuck did the 5 come from

[ruby plover]

5% per stack

4 stacks

[runic hornet]

it's "5 (per level of peril) (of which there are four)"

[worn bolt]

dope

using this too so should be fun

[ruby plover]

that talent is so good

[runic hornet]

it was a mistake

[fierce sinew]

it's better than good

[runic hornet]

lmao

[ruby plover]

yeah its too good

[worn bolt]

its busted as hell

[fierce sinew]

it's a literacy check

if you aren't using it you can't read or do arithmetic

[hollow current]

if it was my first deimos sure but I use this

[worn bolt]

10% minimum

[sullen bobcat]

Bloodthirsty always seems like a fun thing to use with blazing spirit

[humble star]

or an unga bunga pergatus user who never puts the damn thing away

[runic hornet]

I want to experiment with a bloodthirsty blazing spirit sword

[hollow current]

It was when you had 5 seconds of crits.

[fierce sinew]

I'm that purgatus user and power bonus is still too good not to take

[runic hornet]

but... then you can't have slaughterer, which is so much more damage it's not even funny

[worn bolt]

always used shock staff for the cc, now I Dont even need anything else for damage because psyker is busted

[ruby plover]

i got blazing spirit the other night

and then they nerfed soulfire the next day

[worn bolt]

[ruby plover]

i didnt even craft the sword yet

tbf it was a meme pick before the nerf

but like

[worn bolt]

that nerf didn't do what they think it did

[cyan notch]

its only vs flak

[humble star]

True, but it works way better with the other staff options

[ruby plover]

which is

a lot

[fierce sinew]

I think it's not impossible it gets changed, it's pretty clear we caught strays meant for zealot flamer

[cyan notch]

are you running in and meleeing flak and hoping they die with soulblaze

[worn bolt]

to specify, now people stopped using soulfire XD

[ruby plover]

well no because melee soulblaze has always been worthless for killing anything

and now its even worse

[runic hornet]

...I'm still using it... but mainly because the illisi combo is still good enough

[cyan notch]

yea so it shouldnt have changed anything

[humble star]

Even the super underpowered infernus blessing caught strays.

[ruby plover]

you realize that things that are bad can still become worse?

[runic hornet]

when I'm weaving between illisi and trauma

[fresh reef]

How do you think FS should go about reeling psyker's power back in?

[worn bolt]

well yes, I live in a shithole that somehow manages that daily

[runic hornet]

start with autopistol in general, pinning fire should not work the way it does

after that, tune down slaughterer, it's a stupid blessing on every wepaon it appears on

[ruby plover]

nice

[hollow current]

hey my first purchase from brunts. Lets see how this goes.

[fierce sinew]

by introducing difficulty 6 and not giving people toys just to take them away like some kind of sadistic underpaid babysitter

[worn bolt]

damn a 377 from your first buy?

[runic hornet]

only after nerfing those two weapon-specific things, do I think it's okay to start looking back at the feat tree

[hollow current]

Well, first buy of the day.

[runic hornet]

right now there are just some stupidly good blessings

[ruby plover]

how are we going to pretend like pinning fire and slaughterer are okay

they are clearly unhealthy for the game

[cyan notch]

nobody is

[hollow current]

I've probably spent 500k on deimos rolls.

[cyan notch]

who are you talking to

[worn bolt]

there is a lot that isn't okay right now, pretty sure nobody is saying otherwise

[spice veldt]

probably should say "you" instead of "we" then

[runic hornet]

I appreicate overpowered things in PVE games being nerfed vOv

[ruby plover]

fair enough

[runic hornet]

I'm not some lottery-addict who plays roguelikes to get busted builds that play themselves while I fall asleep

[cyan notch]

how is that specifically about slaughterer or pinning fire tho

[hollow current]

at least it isn't crit or weak spot damage.

[ruby plover]

[spice veldt]

since slaughterer and pinning fire are a bit overtuned

[runic hornet]

isn't +carapace on deimos arguably kind of good

[spice veldt]

and null is implicitly arguing against nerfs