psyker-class

[kind wing]

Applies 3 Stacks of +5% Damage against a Staggered Enemy

[feral verge]

bricked

[leaden thunder]

4 stacks for t4

[kind wing]

Idunno how high the stacks get tho

[leaden thunder]

I want to say it's 8

[kind wing]

Oh right it's an extra stack per level

[cold mesa]

soulblaze and burn are different DoT's, the nerf affects flamer and the lasgun crit blessing burn but that's it

[olive ember]

No burn dot to flak is a global nerf

[leaden thunder]

skullcrusher + sluaghterer is what I have on it but only skullcrusher t2

[olive ember]

Easily tested in psyk

[leaden thunder]

if you want to big bonk with thrust jsut use the old one

you get me

[olive ember]

Does anyone have the datamines to check for skull crusher?

[kind wing]

My argument: I get to cleave through all the Poxwalkers to fuck up the Rager next to them

To be fair the only reason I even actually like Ironhelm is because I like the push attack LOL

I'm fucking weird like that

[leaden thunder]

that's just my logic for using scrusher over thrust on it

[olive ember]

Wait skull crusher on the ironhelm or on the crucis

[leaden thunder]

ironhelm

[olive ember]

No clue then 🤔

What about crucis

[leaden thunder]

oh still thrust

[kind wing]

Crucis is definitely Thrust

[leaden thunder]

it's for the biggest bonkage

[feral verge]

i knew to psyker any one no how to shot wepon ??

[olive ember]

Use surge staff

Be amazed

[spice veldt]

el m b to shot

[kind wing]

Press button, Sah!

[blazing oak]

Pull the left trigger

[olive ember]

Console player

💀

[blazing oak]

Steam deck power

[feral verge]

controller user? can we ban this guy

[blazing oak]

I can spin really fast for a long time

[harsh gust]

which blessing to take?

[magic burrow]

just hold the staff and think real hard

[olive ember]

Fucking revolver um

Not crucian roulette

That thing sucks

[blazing oak]

How often y’all crashing

[spice veldt]

not very often

[blazing oak]

During launch?

[tall temple]

how the fuck did you roll t4s on a 294 base

2 t4s

[spice veldt]

but I usually close my game if it runs too long just in case to prevent any issues

[leaden thunder]

emps gift probably

[harsh gust]

the emperor blessed me

[spice veldt]

I haven't crashed during launch in recent memory

[leaden thunder]

both of those blessings are what you want on it

so idk

[blazing oak]

No I mean during the game launch period

December

[harsh gust]

wish i got it on the vet bruh

stats suck tho

[spice veldt]

oh nah, I think I only had one crash that occured in january, but none that occurred in december

[blazing oak]

Because y’all look down on the controller player but the steam deck almost never crashed. Less than 2

[spice veldt]

I don't look down on controllers, especially with gyro

[olive ember]

What wasn’t crucian roulette dumpster tier after nerfs

[leaden thunder]

what else are you gonna use

trickshooter

it's garbage

[olive ember]

Idk it’s the fucking revolver

[blazing oak]

I don’t like gyro

I’m traveling so I can’t play darktide so I’m interested to see how the new aim assist works

[spice veldt]

point blank seems the most useful to me

since you're often meleeing with the revolver presumably

[shadow wigeon]

Is malice dogs the easiest way to get going out with a bang right now?

[spice veldt]

though it depends on whether they'll buff crucian

[olive ember]

Out with a bang? Honestly I used shotgunners and gunners for that on malice

Never tried hunting ground

[spice veldt]

hunting ground doesn't work right

[olive ember]

Oh right it doesn’t

Dogs count as specials

Out with a bang and pick n mix are elites only

[spice veldt]

iirc it's one of the few descriptions where "elites" actually refers to only elites and not including specials

[shadow wigeon]

Specials are elites as well for those purposes.

[olive ember]

Not for psyker penances

[shadow wigeon]

It is, I just got it.

[olive ember]

Last I checked anyways

Oh cool then

[spice veldt]

oh shit really?

[olive ember]

That’s nice

[shadow wigeon]

Pick and mix off hunting grounds

[spice veldt]

oh pick and mix

[blazing oak]

How’d you get your team not to shoot the hounds Long enough

[olive ember]

It should work with out with a bang then

Idk tho

[spice veldt]

i've heard people say that they didn't get out with a bang with hunting grounds

[olive ember]

Never tested obviously

[spice veldt]

not sure though; should be easy enough to test though

[shadow wigeon]

6-7 waves of 6 dogs, I just kept brain bursting.

[blazing oak]

Good to know

[spice veldt]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/psykinetic-going-out-with-a-bang-penance-hunting-grounds-modifier/76725/5

[shadow wigeon]

A bit lucky that my targets didn't get popped, it's true.

[spice veldt]

seems that you can't get out with a bang in hunting ground

[worn bolt]

The amount of people that quit out of damnation before the game starts when they see me equipped with this is pretty funny

[spice veldt]

that duelling sword is indeed dreadful

[worn bolt]

works fine

[shadow wigeon]

Aight good to know. TBH it is a bit miserable to pub a malice to try to blow yourself up on dogs.

so im happy not to try, thanks

[leaden thunder]

shrimply do it on vet

[spice veldt]

smh not wanting to die in malice pubs

[worn bolt]

but nah I meant the frame and lack of outfit

[spice veldt]

what a weirdo

I usually assume that people with t0 outfits and the beginner frame are just styling on others usually

[shadow wigeon]

I don't care about dying, try to organize a malice pub to not kill the dogs.

[blazing oak]

Honestly, fuck going out with a bang. That shit was hard even with a team dedicated to helping me get it

[spice veldt]

run ahead and let your wings run free

[shadow wigeon]

does perils one shot stuff on malice?

[worn bolt]

I am lmao, I have the damnation frame and all the other shit but I just dont feel like using it. Also im looking for an illisi I have jsut been getting dogdick rolls so im using this pos until then

[worn bolt]

?

[olive ember]

We should all make new characters

And then queue into heresy

See how well it goes

[worn bolt]

can't

theres a level requirement

[magic burrow]

I really like the damage blocked frame. Fits well with my psyker look.

[shadow wigeon]

Perils of warp explosion, does it one shot elites on malice?

[late yew]

No, i think it is because they are sick of psykers

[olive ember]

Kinda but not rly

[late yew]

I personally leave as well when there are too many of them

[olive ember]

You gotta be inside em

[blazing oak]

Does grouping bypass level restrictions

[worn bolt]

on malice idk, it might. does a decent bit of damage

[olive ember]

It’s enough to one shot the targets you want but the dmg drop off is rly bad

[worn bolt]

well yeah but thats a fringe case, im not talking about when there are 4 psykers in the lobby

[olive ember]

Like if you are even a little bit far they will live

Guy leaves when 4 carry classes show up

SMH

[spice veldt]

I like psyker teammates because they often use their staff and don't really melee

[worn bolt]

^ you basically have to suicide bomb them with it

[spice veldt]

so I get fed all the kills

[magic burrow]

honestly when I see any rank 30 player in the prisoner garb clothes I ready the popcorn because they tend to be crackin good.

[olive ember]

That’s why I don’t run prisoner garb, I run the service gear you get at lvl 25

[shadow wigeon]

I showed up with +3 wounds in a malice pub, and everyone else was running +3 wounds but unironically 😦

[olive ember]

Slap on a sedition or malice border

And you gaming

[magic burrow]

psyker has a really nice pair of light blue pants that kind of looks like a pair of jeans that goes well with the prisoner vest

[whole oxide]

9 times out of 10 they're knife-zealots who run off a cliff and ragequit

[worn bolt]

would the malice border make me look more shit than the rejects will rise one? im looking for the worst one

[blazing oak]

I had a guy that was low level and trying to use his staff special move to melee instead of using his melee, so he was quite low on health. I said “you have a sword, witch”. I was immediately flamed for light roleplaying

Does getting votekicked say you got votekicked or just that “you lost connection”

[olive ember]

I’m not sure tbh, cuz I run the sedition border but I think it’s a giveaway that I’m memeing

Maybe I should just run the malice border

You can also run the lvl 30 border

[worn bolt]

rejects will rise border goes hard tho

[spice veldt]

I've contemplated running the malice border, but I decided against it for now

[olive ember]

Oh oh there’s also the

Pre launch border

[blazing oak]

I use the 15 not downed games in a row border

[olive ember]

Running that is always a funny bait

[blazing oak]

Does anyone know if getting votekicked tells you that you got votekicked or just that you lost connection

[olive ember]

We’re talking about best border to use as bait kek

[magic burrow]

prisoner garb equipping the knife, go play malice and do nothing but spam the knife special facepunch attack

[olive ember]

Not sure tbh

[worn bolt]

I havent bothered getting that one because I only play on damn, so thats nearly impossible there

[olive ember]

Just play malice like me

Ez

[worn bolt]

meh, too boring

[clear heath]

The one that invokes the most fear is taking 1 tier below what you're running
malice border on heresy or heresy border on damn

[blazing oak]

Because after I got flamed, I then was told “I lost connection” and was booted out. The only time that has happened to me too

[clear heath]

if you run malice border on damn, i just assume you're memeing anyways

[blazing oak]

Sedition border on uprising

[worn bolt]

the amount of people that have heresy borders in damn outweighs the ones with damn borders ive seen

[olive ember]

There’s no heresy border, there’s a sedition border and then there’s a malice border

[clear heath]

but heresy on damn implies you're actually new

[worn bolt]

wait wait, is there actually a sedition border? which is it?

[olive ember]

1st dot is sedition

[late yew]

Which is damnation border?

[worn bolt]

yeah there is a heresy border

[shadow wigeon]

Getting it as ogryn was reasonable, but the odds of one had run in 15 was high.

[olive ember]

2nd dot is malice

3rd dot is Damnation

[worn bolt]

ohhh

yeah you right

[clear heath]

wait really

[worn bolt]

forgot that it skipped 4

[late yew]

I use Incomparible, but no idea for which this one is given

[worn bolt]

yeah

[olive ember]

I run sedition border and yeah

[worn bolt]

you get an achievement for heresy

not a border

[clear heath]

wow i thought it was malice heresy damn

[magic burrow]

use the heresy border in damnation and then say in chat youre going for the psyker self-explode penance. But do it halfway through the mission, so everyone is attached. That is the true way to invoke horrors beyond mankind's imagination

[olive ember]

Incomparable is just running enough missions on psyker

[olive ember]

Lol no

[blazing oak]

I also run the beta frame for my characters I’m not leveling

[olive ember]

I’m debating just running malice border tbh but yeah I run beta frame currently

[worn bolt]

that goofball ass beta helmet ive never worn, looks ugly as shit

[olive ember]

Since uprising border on damn is like super hard bait

[blazing oak]

Whoever decided psykers beta helmet should be a helmet is not creative

[olive ember]

I run beta helmet with pre launch beta border kek

[worn bolt]

does anyone fall for it? I imagine not right

[olive ember]

I had one guy question me bringing a laspistol

[clear heath]

no one believes the 1 skull border on damnation

[worn bolt]

which one was the beta border, I Have the helmet but idr which border it gave

[blazing oak]

I’ve never been asked anything about my load out frame or cosmetics

[olive ember]

Not at home rn if someone else wants to show

[blazing oak]

I have been asked if I was the discord mod Gawain since my character is named that

[worn bolt]

anyone can show me what the beta border looks like? I probably have it but I dont know which it is

[magic burrow]

https://puu.sh/JDwcx/d48c3611d7.png

I mean, it says youre ready to handle anything

[worn bolt]

You are ready to handle a few gunners and a pox walker

[late yew]

For what Still Expendible is given?

[blazing oak]

That’s not the beta border

[blazing oak]

Path of trust

[worn bolt]

can you show me it?

[blazing oak]

That’s the beta

[shut matrix]

I think that's it

[worn bolt]

ahh this one, yeah

[magic burrow]

https://puu.sh/JDwcR/873d6d37e1.png

this one's my favorite

[late yew]

Both thunder hammers share blessings right?

[olive ember]

That’s the sedition border

It’s a bit of a bait tho

Like too obvious of a bait

[atomic plover]

the perks u can get on curios does not differ for each class, does it? Obvious question, but im getting confused rn

[worn bolt]

easily the best border

[blazing oak]

I don’t even remember what most frames are other than the level based ones

[worn bolt]

same

[olive ember]

Same perks they don’t transfer over

Gotta reroll curios for every character

[atomic plover]

ok, yeah, thanks. been trying to roll dmg resist on psyker and after 15k rolls still none... like

[worn bolt]

curious are annoying to farm for but when you are done you will be grateful, I got a god roll on one of mine so it gives like 25% hp or smth

[olive ember]

Not 26%

Fucking trash

[worn bolt]

[magic burrow]

https://puu.sh/JDwdh/09dd5ffa0c.png

[spice veldt]

that's the purge the heretic one iirc

[magic burrow]

this one screams "Im a sweaty edgelord and I will yell at you for not playing the meta"

[spice veldt]

:(

[worn bolt]

I tend to try to do the exact opposite of what those dudes say and still play better than them

it pisses them off even more

[olive ember]

I tilt very easily

But that’s why I just don’t type anything in chat

Like ever

[worn bolt]

what if I give you a hug?

[olive ember]

Silence

[magic burrow]

https://puu.sh/JDwdT/04b1054e9a.png

rate my psyker

[worn bolt]

Wow, that is beautiful

[olive ember]

Literally a toilet bowl

[worn bolt]

Urkle with a shitter for a head

new meta is wearing shit like this

[magic burrow]

looks like a hazmat suit

[harsh gust]

wish they made it look death guardy

[blazing oak]

If only the psyker hood didn’t make short hair bald

[olive ember]

^^

Maybe if we complain enough like the zealots back then

[late yew]

i want to do that challenge to kill boss solo...

[feral verge]

this

hate being a bald mf in that hood

[shadow wigeon]

Ask for shieldgryn in ogryn chat or LFG

[gilded viper]

im dumb or blind

do psyker not get the single target HH?

[spice veldt]

they do

[gilded viper]

im blind

[spice veldt]

it's vraks something

[gilded viper]

ah

[spice veldt]

dis one

[feral verge]

nightmare scenario teamcomp: knife zealot, surge psyker, shieldgryn and recon vet

[spice veldt]

knife lasgun zealot, surge duelling sword psyker, kickback shieldgryn, recon knife vet

[feral verge]

:shudders:

[late yew]

Deflecter + slaughterer good for both force swords?

[tall temple]

you dont need deflector

[feral verge]

slaughterer is the #1 blessing on force swords, so yee

on most builds

unstable power #2

deflector is neat but not necessary for success

[spice veldt]

it's a good combination yeah

if you like the utility of deflector

[cyan portal]

Deflector lets you play more aggressive/reckless, when you round the corner to 4 shotgunners you just deflect the bullets then kill them, rather than die. If you're more careful then unstable power is a good dmg boost.

[feral verge]

uh oh

devil claw psyker

in hi5

[spice veldt]

though you can also dodge-slide into shotgunners

especially with their nerfed toughness damage

and they get melee-locked much more easily

im not really scared of shotgunners anymore unless my toughness got peeled

then I am scared once again

[gaunt stone]

Hey gamers did the dot reduction hurt purg that much against flak? Is it a noticeable difference?

[cyan portal]

Yeah, they aren't so scary nowadays, but are still one of the significant risks of death. Generally if my toughness is peeled its because I've been shot up, which again deflector would have prevented.

[tall temple]

dodge slide and cut all their heads off with a single swing from your illisi like an anime character

[cyan portal]

dmg ticks for half damage against flak, yeah it is a big reduction in power, purga still strong but not as strong.

Mostly notice soulblaze gets less killing blows so I need communion instead of aura to drop max stacks on cd now

[kind jay]

deflector doesn't work vs shotgun. don't you still get blasted same as sniper? or was that fixed

[cyan portal]

if you run communion and warp battery you probably won't notice a difference. aura and wildfire doesn't feel nearly as strong as it was.

must have been fixed, was enjoying the free deflector on the new fs and catching all the shotgunner rounds.

[spice veldt]

you can block shotguns

they were never unblockable unlike snipers

[worn bolt]

idk if psyker is jsut broken or if new psyker is so much better than old psyker but im popping off now

[gilded viper]

psyker did only got buff last patch (not this one)

[olive ember]

Glad to be playin with ya

[clear heath]

i've been blocking shotgunners for ages

[gilded viper]

feel way better to play in general on everything

[worn bolt]

selling house for good illisi

seriously tho its been nearly a week now and I havent found a single one worth taking

[late yew]

i really like it

what you think of this build for trauma/void?

or wrack and ruin + wildifire bad?

[worn bolt]

im pretty unkillable with kinetic shield

[late yew]

and better take +25% damage and +2 stacks?

[tall temple]

take the damage boost for the level 10 talents

and +2 stacks yeah

very important you 1 shot on headshot with void

[worn bolt]

warp unleashed is op

[late yew]

literally first illi i got, which is also my very first orange weapon

But i have shit luck with thammer

[clear heath]

I was really glad i had deflector yesterday when i was doing duos and trying to cover for someone while he was doing data interrogator

just stood on top of him while blocking bullets and pushing poxwalkers

[worn bolt]

well I wish you luck on the hammer my friend, I will try my luck with the illi till I get it

[elfin crystal]

deflector is pretty nice just for the block efficiency tbh

[ruby plover]

i think i got major deflector value literally for the first time yesterday

right before it went away

[elfin crystal]

it's a bonus curio perk

[clear heath]

now you have a taste of it

[worn bolt]

33% dr is great tho, I can get by without deflector, if you cant then probably go for it. depends on playstyle

[clear heath]

you gotta get the blessing now

[ruby plover]

mmmm i think not

[worn bolt]

then again I played a shit laod of vt2 so my melee is much better than I am against ranged

[edgy finch]

how good is blazing spirit on a force sword for purgatus psyker?

[clear heath]

blazing spirit on fs sucks imo

[elfin crystal]

agreed tbh

[clear heath]

you barely crit

if you get crit by taking shred, you lose slaughterer, which is even worse

[spice veldt]

and purg by itself is quite good at applying soulblaze

so you're better off picking slaughterer and whatnot to get that power buff

[elfin crystal]

it's not like you're going to have trouble putting stacks with purga anyway

[late yew]

Deflector amazing for reviving potatoes

[clear heath]

you're better of stacking slaughterer to boost the burn than going shred blazing

[ruby plover]

yes i love deflector reviving

[worn bolt]

but ye deflector is good, just not required

[elfin crystal]

honestly i think the main reason the soulblaze stack blessing exist is if you wanna build fs with it and just disregard any other soulblaze talent but the last one

on the fs*

[clear heath]

i think they just tried putting as many blessings as possible on force sword to make building one as cancer as possible

yes i love getting precog for the 10th time

[elfin crystal]

kek

[supple skiff]

new psyker feat

just go completly invisible

[late yew]

how to make beast of nurgle spit out an ally?

[spice veldt]

vet nade, barrel, ogryn charge, and occasionally the trauma blast but it's unreliable

[elfin crystal]

charge them as ogryn iirc

ye that

[leaden thunder]

that as well

zealot nade might?

i haven't got it to work if it does

[elfin crystal]

🤷‍♂️

[fresh reef]

new patch fixed Illisi not working with Warp Absorption and god damn is it fun

[spice veldt]

:o

i glanced over that in the patch notes

[fresh reef]

is nice

what should I roll this into?

[spice veldt]

i vote +maniac

[feral verge]

maniac

[fresh reef]

👍

[gilded viper]

Having to pick between Deflector and Unstable is pain

More power vs more lenient positioning + fuck shooters

[fresh reef]

only took about 300 rolls lol

[spice veldt]

simply dodge-slide https://streamable.com/mrgmkh

[gilded viper]

Only 300? Kinda low

[feral verge]

i like unstable because it's instant on demand damage + push power

if there's suddenly a mutie in my face i can get to high peril and smite it quickly

if there's a burster i can get to high peril and push it really far

[elfin crystal]

deflector every day for me honestly . you shouldn't expect your teammates to be reliable.

[gilded viper]

Pug gaming frfr

Unstable is certainly better with a team more capable of helping

[elfin crystal]

yeah defo if you trust your team go ham

[gilded viper]

I wish I had unstable 4

[fresh reef]

broke: I need deflector to approach shooters
woke: +sprint efficiency

[elfin crystal]

i'm just pubing most of the time

[feral verge]

i have been trying to get that for over a month

[gilded viper]

Getting shot stops you tho

[feral verge]

i have spent over 50k plasteel trying to get it

[fresh reef]

then say no

[tall temple]

not if you know when to slide

[gilded viper]

Painful

[elfin crystal]

give dual wield forcesword feat fs

[gilded viper]

Hard to slide in a horde

[tall temple]

cant get shot in a horde. the shots hit the horde. either youre getting shot or youre in a horde. cant be both.

[elfin crystal]

sniper says fuck you

[gilded viper]

Shooters can be at elevation

[feral verge]

it'd be comfy if deflector could block sniper

[elfin crystal]

(i know deflector doesn't work on them just joking)

yeah

it'd be nice

[tall temple]

youre not approaching shooters at elevation

[gilded viper]

I never said I was approaching, just not taking the chip is nice

[elfin crystal]

honestly sometimes it's just nice to take fire off teammates and co

if you are in front charging with deflector, it takes a bunch of the stress off in the open areas

well not charging, but ya know what i mean

[gilded viper]

I want melee psyker to get a big ol bubble shield as their special

[elfin crystal]

we might get that with protectorate

[tall temple]

you could be killing or suppressing whats shooting at you instead of standing out there taking hits though

that also takes pressure off

[elfin crystal]

yeah i could. but if we're going towards them, it most likely means we were able to do it at range anyway

[olive ember]

Make deflector block sniper so I have a legit reason to bring it

It’s a confirmed bug yeah?

Why no fix

[elfin crystal]

honestly i'm not making the shield ogryn argument, i'm just saying in some fringe cases, it's nice

[olive ember]

The shield ogryn argument falls apart complete with the FS

[late yew]

so you can heal to full with 1 swing?

[olive ember]

The reason being that the whole argument revolves around the fact that slab shield can’t kill shit

[elfin crystal]

like, a lot of people don't pack either long range stuff or armor piercing stuff. it's an issue. if you equip those, it makes almost every damnation match a breeze

[fresh reef]

Effectively, yes

[olive ember]

More or less yes

Idk if it’s worth over Quietitude

[fresh reef]

10% per kill, with a cleaving melee

[olive ember]

But eh

[fresh reef]

Quietude still better

But it's fun

[olive ember]

I might try it out on purge or wte

[elfin crystal]

yeah i was just making a parallel between me not killing shit while blocking and the shield ogryn not killing shit with blocking. not much more

that being said, fs also comes with mass cc once you're close enough tho

[gilded viper]

I'm going to replace Exorcist with Slaughterer 4, but what should my other perk be you think?

[feral verge]

maniac

[spice veldt]

I vote maniac

[gilded viper]

Maniac it'll be then

[steep shuttle]

Guys.

[gilded viper]

Shame it's only unstable 2

[steep shuttle]

Slaughterer 3 or Uncanny 2?

[spice veldt]

slaughterer always

force swords do not benefit much from rending except possibly the Deimos against carapace

[steep shuttle]

I had to replace Deflect 1

[magic burrow]

you can poke a crusher's eye out with that thing

[spice veldt]

if your hordeclear is satisfied by your ranged, and you want to spec particularly hard into single target, then uncanny sure

I would personally prefer to take slaughterer regardless

[steep shuttle]

I tear through groups with this thing already, kinda

[gilded viper]

There a Darktide mod guide somewhere? I want the auto roller and menu shortcut

nevermind found the nexus page

[spice veldt]

there's the modding discord with a guide in the #instructions channel if you ever need it https://discord.gg/GFyCGNpJb8

[olive ember]

You chose to replace deflector over executor

We live in the worst timeline

[clear heath]

i appreciate deflector with kd just to build peril while being shot

sometimes it just isn't convenient to rub your sword

[late yew]

Gotta love high intensity missions

Hmmmm

Could be interesting with warp nexus?

blazing spirit i mean

Terrifying barrage is useless right?

[olive ember]

Lmao blazing spirit

It’ll be an off meta staff

Was already off meta before prob pbad now dunno

[feral verge]

yes its useless

[olive ember]

Is it tho?

[feral verge]

you're playing checkers in malice

me? im in damnation, playing chess

[gloomy yarrow]

Did they nerf flame staff?

[twilit flicker]

Wouldn't that make terrifying barrage MORE useful?

[olive ember]

Chess lmao

[feral verge]

they nerfed all DOT dmg on weapons vs flak

[olive ember]

So any psyker build utilizing burn got their flak dot damage cut in half

Purge obviously comes to mind but also blazing spirit and ascendant blaze and wildfire

[gloomy yarrow]

I have flak damage

Well I think I’m fine then

[olive ember]

You’re fine then but it’s still a 50% dmg nerf

So yeah take it what you will

Nerfs meant for zealot and it fucks psykers more

Typical fatshark

[gloomy yarrow]

I already have stupid hoard clear

[olive ember]

Eh

[gloomy yarrow]

Isn’t there literally 3 different fire effects?

[ruby plover]

mfw i am a dedicated gunker and i already felt more overpowered than purgatus users

thank u fatshark for letting me live another patch

[gloomy yarrow]

Fr gun psyker is awesome now

[olive ember]

It’s two, but they nerfed burn damage globally so yeah

[gloomy yarrow]

Soul blaze, infernus and zealot flame

Unless infernus is completely different

All 3 at least act differently

[leaden thunder]

soulblaze is different

[lethal folio]

Infernus is burning. Soulblaze is a different buff but uses the same armour mods as burning.

[leaden thunder]

but it also got nerfed

[olive ember]

Infernus and flamer are burn and soulblaze is it’s own thing

But yeah they all got nerfed

[gloomy yarrow]

Bruh

Fatshark do you not know how to organize your fucking code

[leaden thunder]

all dots got nerfed

vs flak

it was intentional

stupid

but intentional

[feral verge]

i played my zealot with a nice flamer

felt no difference with the nerf lol

in actual gameplay

[gloomy yarrow]

I like the laz pistol

[leaden thunder]

las pistol fun and decent

[gloomy yarrow]

And shredder on zealot

But nerfing psykers only good dps staff is some tyler1 dent shit

[steel flame]

wow. the only good dps staff huh

i dunno, youre making the trauma staff a little sad rn

[gloomy yarrow]

You can’t convince me it’s not

Trauma doesn’t do the same damage flame staff can do in my experience

[steel flame]

they are pretty comparable in total mission damage in high intensity

[gloomy yarrow]

I’ll take your word for it

I’d use it to make vet mains angry

[steel flame]

you put nexus and flurry on it along with WU you can spam the fuck outta it and do some serious damage

bonus points for also pissing off veteren

eventually they just accept it and melee everything knocked down

[feral verge]

yo

what's Wade's profile border

dont think ive seen it before

[gilded viper]

I think it’s the do 500 assassination missions

[olive ember]

That’s what I’m saying they barely touched flamer and slapped psyker instead

Man I def feel like a discord user rn

Walked out of class and there’s just a bunch of people lying on the grass and like holding picnics cuz of how nice the weather is

Fucking touching grass

Disgusting

[late yew]

how do i get this?

[gilded viper]

Complete missions

[olive ember]

It’s like

250 missions or 150 or smth

[gilded viper]

idk

[rigid sky]

50 I think

[spice veldt]

I bet 2 bucks it's 100

2 cents

[limber silo]

Just read the patch notes, I will miss my free Deflector and infinite cleave special

Unfortunately I have to pay attention to Bulwarks again, rip

[orchid shadow]

Infinite cleave special?

[olive ember]

Cleave special is the same

It rly only affects iron helm and eviscerator

[spice veldt]

the patch notes just word it badly

[orchid shadow]

Ohh, okay.

[fierce sinew]

what is the change to purg crit behavior?

[gilded viper]

I wasn't aware its crits got changed? Only the flak dot got its damage halved

[limber silo]

Wait, the notes said it stops on any elites

[gilded viper]

Yes, but that is only meaningful for the new Thunderhammer and Eviscerator

Power Sword and Illisi work the same

[olive ember]

Burn flak dmg got nerfed by 50% globally

[olive ember]

That hurts psykers the most since like 1/4 our kits use burn to help deal with shit like shooters

That one I’m not sure

[gilded viper]

I wasn't aware purge crits even applied more/less stacks

[fierce sinew]

applying double stacks with crit was the entire point of using the perk

[gilded viper]

Hopefully whatever it means, it means purge is now working as intended?

[fierce sinew]

intent does not now, never has, and never will matter

I do not care

[leaden thunder]

it got fixed to work right again

[fierce sinew]

I just want to know what it does lmao

[limber silo]

It's vague, it could mean that it WASN'T applying double on crit. Or it could mean the opposite

[leaden thunder]

it wasn't applying them

sometimes

[limber silo]

Also pretty sure burning is a different thing

[leaden thunder]

it works properly now and always does

[limber silo]

Soulblaze is a different keyword than burning

[gilded viper]

You're asking FS to word things clearly? I'm pretty sure they do this sorta thing as a joke now a days

[fierce sinew]

so if they were burning before they weren't getting correct (double) stacks on crit, and now they are?

[leaden thunder]

something like that

[gilded viper]

Yah and I think all dots got the smack to the damage as well, stuff like bleed included

[leaden thunder]

it was like if it was the last tick was a crit it didn't work right idk

they did

for some reason

which is wierd

[limber silo]

It specifically says "Lower burning DoT damage from all sources vs. Flak armour from 200% to 100%"

Which I take to mean Infernus, Flamer, Barrels, etc.

Bleed and Soulblaze are different

[leaden thunder]

hmm

well soul blaze def does less damage now as far as I can tell

[limber silo]

Tick #s?

[leaden thunder]

it can't one shot scab stalkers at 6 stacks without about a 15% damage boost from something

[limber silo]

Hmmm

That sucks

[leaden thunder]

eh it's really easy to work around

[limber silo]

Well yeah, WU is much more useful nowadays

[leaden thunder]

having flak on your weapon or about 25% peril and WU

or even 1 sluaght 4 stack

[limber silo]

And it's not like you stop shooting when you ult

[sage barn]

Soulblaze now does damage based on the amount of warp charges and effects the next enemy closest to enemy you killed with soulbalze.

[fierce sinew]

soulblaze always scaled with warp charges and other power modifiers

[sage barn]

Completely spaced on that lmao. They did increase the distance of the Psykinetic's Wrath.

[wide tiger]

Damn

They nerfed the shit outta flamer and psword

and soulblaze got hit, my fear

[olive ember]

Barely touched

But soulblaze got fucked

Hf

6 stack AB can’t kill scab bruisers and stalkers

[wide tiger]

If they can do that to the powersword ilisi isnt safe

[olive ember]

Without warp unleashed or power buffs active*

[wide tiger]

cause powersword is basically a strictly worse ilisi now

[olive ember]

I mean idk what they would do to illisi

Psword still has cycler

So eh

[wide tiger]

maybe remove unlimited dodges

[runic hornet]

yeah, cycler and no risk of blowing yourself up if you're bad

[wide tiger]

yeah but psword needs activated to be good, ilisi is good without it

[runic hornet]

i have weapon special on a mouse thumb button and why yes I have fatfingered that thing before

and blown myself up

[wide tiger]

Yeah thats pretty rare

thats like

oopsie

[runic hornet]

yeah, but you have to consider this: the average veteran powersword enjoyer

That's it

[wide tiger]

but not really a "downside" to usingn the weapon

its an extra aoe blast its a feature 😛

regardless

if psword isnt on top, everything else takes a step forwards in the get the shit nerfed outta me line

[ruby plover]

theres no shot shredder illi are next on the block

noooooo shot

[wide tiger]

what do you put above them

[ruby plover]

(i am manifesting protection from nerfs)

[olive ember]

Next is antax

Then we talk

BM antax is the next on the chopping block

[wide tiger]

Over ilisi? Pretty close contest, maybe heavy sword too

[olive ember]

I mean antax is a global weapon an

And a lot of people are saying it broke in zealot chat so yea

[rare furnace]

I put my special on caplocks

[feral verge]

damn dude lol

this poor vet

there were two dakka obsessed ogryns on the team

vet got no ammo

did no damage

(we lost)

[olive ember]

Skill issue

Just grab ammo faster

[fresh steeple]

in light of today's changes, I'm thinking of rerolling this guy:

not that level 2 Deflector is great, but it's more than serviceable. Dunno what I'd put in place of level 3 spirit, or what perk to reroll

15% unyielding feelsbadman, but I feel like I gotta keep it compared to poxwalker damage

[vestal raven]

it would be better to start crafting another one imho

if u really wanna upgrade

[fresh steeple]

my current weapon is a Mk II

and I don't have the plasteel to meaningfully fully craft one

[spice veldt]

I'd prob replace a perk with maniac

[fresh steeple]

but let's put that aside. Assuming one perk is Unyielding and one Blessing is Deflector, which other perk/blessing is ideal in the opinion of the Psyker council?

[vestal raven]

slaughter x)

[spice veldt]

as for the blessing, it depends on what you usually use the Deimos for

[fresh steeple]

I was thinking maniac too, but also Carapace to be able to chunk rended Crushers even better

if I'm running it with Trauma, my assumption is that I would use it as a single target clear for big enemies

Trauma doesn't exactly have a need for horde clear counterbalance

[spice veldt]

probably uncanny strike or unstable Power then

[whole oxide]

Bad Karma, did you used to be a regular on Exterminatus in Space Marine?

[fresh steeple]

no

[whole oxide]

someone with same name then, nvm

[fresh steeple]

is there any value in Bloodthirsty on Deimos? Or is it only an Illisi thing because the crit occurs after the kill?

[spice veldt]

only occurs after the special kill

and you're not usually using the special anyways except on flak

[fresh steeple]

kk, so not nearly as much value on Deimos

[spice veldt]

even on illisi, it's a tossup between unstable Power and bloodthirsty

since you're guaranteed to rebless blazing spirit, you could experiment around with uncanny strike and unstable power

[whole oxide]

for Deimos, Slaughterer is best for allowing it to fairly servicably chomp through hordes, but unstable power better for first-strike on lone elites

[fresh steeple]

I feel like I would never use enough sequential attacks for Uncanny to be worth it if paired alongside Trauma

if I were running it alongside Surge I'd be more cognizant of horde clear

anyway, thanks for the info. Good to have

side note, re: Trauma staff with Rending. Flurry, Sustained Fire, or Surge as second blessing?

or I guess also Nexus added on there

[whole oxide]

definitely Flurry

Surge and Sustained do nothing for your alt-fire, only primary

[fresh steeple]

I've... definitely had Surge proc on my secondary when testing.

but good to know re: sustained

the thing that bothers me with Flurry whenever I use it is that by the time yuo get to five stacks you're at max peril anyway

[whole oxide]

with Trauma? never seen that

[fresh steeple]

so you can't keep it going

[fresh steeple]

Trauma has garbage crit. But I've definitely seen double instances of crit damage go out when testing in Psykanium, unless the numbers were showing me something else

[olive ember]

Trauma shouldn’t proc surge on rmb

Atleast multiple people have said this if you got screenshots

[umbral beacon]

Warp Nexus blessing isn't transferrable between force staves? i took the lvl 4 Warp Nexus blessing off of a surge staff, but i cant apply it to my voidstrike

[fresh steeple]

each stave is its own tahng

[olive ember]

Nope

[fresh steeple]

it's very irritating

[umbral beacon]

ahhh damn

[olive ember]

Welcome to psyker

Each staff is a different weapon type apparently

[fresh steeple]

does any other staff proc surge on RMB? Because I've only ever found surge on Trauma

[umbral beacon]

that seems a bit nonsensical..

[olive ember]

Voidstrike procs surge on rmb

[fresh steeple]

I don't want to waste plasteel right now slapping it on just for a Psykanium test. Didn't know it was controversial as to whether it worked

[olive ember]

Surge is kinda mid in general tho

[fresh steeple]

but if I do put it back on at some point I'll run a video

[whole oxide]

if you have Inner Tranquility, and get a few -10% procs from killing trash mobs, you can chain alot more than 5 charged Trauma alts

[olive ember]

In order for surge to be decent you need to slap crit on it

But that means not taking warp flurry

[fresh steeple]

which ain't ideal, yes. Except, of course, on the Surge staff

[olive ember]

Surge staff can’t run surge

[fresh steeple]

why not?

[olive ember]

Not in their blessing pool

[fresh steeple]

WOT

[olive ember]

Both surge and purge staff have same blessing pool

[fresh steeple]

no wonder I never found it

[olive ember]

Which is

[fresh steeple]

what a crock

[spice veldt]

you've been fatsharked

[fresh steeple]

what an absolute frigging crock

[olive ember]

Flurry, nexus, focused channeling, terrifying barrage, run n gun

^^ choose 2 from 5 for surge and purge staff

(Hint the first two are the only useful ones)

[fresh steeple]

absurdity

no wonder I haven't ever seen it on Surge staves...

[olive ember]

Welcome to psyker

[fresh steeple]

this is like Ahab trying to find the White Whale only to learn that it's actually just a small iceberg

[fresh steeple]

yes, that's fair, but also you think Tranq over Warp Unleashed?

[proper elbow]

Has psyker ever gotten buffs before the weapon addition patch? Asking for a friend.

[fresh steeple]

I feel like WU has been pretty nice since the rework

[whole oxide]

WU isn't that great for Trauma

[olive ember]

Two patches

One was the very first pre launch patch to make psyker actually playable

[whole oxide]

Trauma will 1-hit most basic stuff anyway, so WU adds nothing

[olive ember]

The second was like back in january or wte which made warp charges fall off one by one

Eh WU is taken now almost every time because

[fresh steeple]

not to basic stuff, no, but it improves your Brain Burst damage and sword attacks

[whole oxide]

yeah

[olive ember]

WU is now a global dmg buff

And yea

[whole oxide]

it really depends what you want to lean in to

[spice veldt]

but yeah for trauma specifically it doesn't matter as long as you have 60% damage

[fresh steeple]

I feel like taking Tranq just for the chance of a sixth full charge isn't that worth it

[olive ember]

Also the quelling buff n shit makes warp resist kinda meh

[fresh steeple]

but I should possibly just look at Flurry as an accelerator button instead of a sustained speed button

it's the gas pedal instead of the cruise control

[whole oxide]

if you treat Trauma as your primary, take Inner Tranq, if you just use Trauma for occasional CC then take WU or Wrack and RUin

[fresh steeple]

W&R good laugh

very funny

[whole oxide]

half the value of Trauma is CC, so being able to spam out more Alts is handy

W&R was really good pre-patch, not tried it since

[spice veldt]

there is some use of W&R for mixed hordes, though it's a bit moot/redundant when discussing the trauma staff

[fresh steeple]

I don't really see myself using BB with Trauma during horde fights, no

[olive ember]

No real reason to use wrack and ruin when warp unleashed exists tbh

[fresh steeple]

not unless it's to pick off far away specialists, at which point the talent doesn't matter

[olive ember]

Atleast warp resist makes high peril staffs easier to use

[whole oxide]

if there's a bunch of elites grouped together, W&R will quickly ramp up damage and kill that group much faster than anything else psyker can do

except i guess Shredder

[spice veldt]

mainly for mixed hordes with bulwarks

where they can block purg (and a bit of trauma)

[olive ember]

Also they nerfed burn dmg so

Wrack and ruin even worse than before

[fresh steeple]

I thought the burn nerf was specifically for Flamer

[olive ember]

Nope

[fresh steeple]

burn and soulfire are different things

[fierce sinew]

are we seriously pretending w&r builds stacks faster than just purging

[olive ember]

Flak burn dmg got halved

[whole oxide]

it was nerfed against Flak specifically

[fresh steeple]

soulblaze, w'ever

[spice veldt]

they use the same armour mods apparently

[olive ember]

And it’s a global nerf

[whole oxide]

not vs everything

[spice veldt]

no

[fresh steeple]

okee dokee

[whole oxide]

if you're not in range to Purge, obviously it does

[spice veldt]

i'm talking about a case where purg literally can not hit enemies

such as behind a bulwark

[fierce sinew]

🤡

[spice veldt]

but even that is a very niche and specific scenario

[fresh steeple]

so... 311211 is my theoretical build for this Surge staff I'm basically using for the first time in a serious context

[olive ember]

Also been wondering but are you named objekts on Reddit

[spice veldt]

no, objekts has the same name in this discord

[fierce sinew]

I'm a little insulted that you think I would post on reddit

[fresh steeple]

or would 311111 be better for the stamina absorption from KD?

[leaden thunder]

[olive ember]

SMH comon join us

Become a Redditor

[spice veldt]

nothing wrong with engaging with reddit

[olive ember]

🙂

[fierce sinew]

redditors deserve to be dismembered while still alive, filmed, and their grieving families mailed the parts one at a time over a period of weeks

give them the head with the tape at the end

[olive ember]

Don’t you wish to pass on our superior knowledge to the unenlightened ones

Oof that’s a bit extreme

You don’t like Reddit

Smh

[whole oxide]

KD is definitely better than Kinetic Shield

[olive ember]

Reddit is truly enlightening

[olive ember]

I run 3/1/2/1/3/3

For surge staff

[fresh steeple]

um... next question... Trauma makes you explode at 100% even if you started the cast earlier?

[whole oxide]

I'd definitely take Kinetic Barrage over Quicken too

[fresh steeple]

I thought they fixed that

[olive ember]

Trauma is special

[fresh steeple]

sorry, for Trauma* staff

[spice veldt]

if you left-click with trauma at 100%, then yes

if you left-click at 99%, you're safe; this applies to all staffs

[fresh steeple]

I don't like this

[olive ember]

He means rmb

[spice veldt]

yes

[olive ember]

I though

[whole oxide]

definitley don't overlook Wrack & Ruin, although if you've not been on T5 - Hi-Shock-Gauntlet, its harder to appreciate how much it pumps. It gets exponentially stronger with more elite targets

[spice veldt]

with RMB, if you left-click at 100% to cast it, then you explode

with RMB, if you left-click at 99% to cast it, then you're safe

[olive ember]

Trauma I thought still has the glitch where you can instant blow up while charging

[spice veldt]

nope

[fresh steeple]

I'm testing this in Psykanium. Even if I start a cast at ~90%, it explodes me if I take it to 100

[olive ember]

If you start charging at like 100

Does it not?

Herm

[spice veldt]

without LMBing?

[fresh steeple]

what Arco is saying appears to be correct

[spice veldt]

just holding RMB?

[olive ember]

I remember something weird with trauma where you blew up without the animation

[fresh steeple]

with LMB obviously. If you don't LMB the cast doesn't go off

[olive ember]

Like just instant blow

[fresh steeple]

obviously I can stop the cast if needed

[ruby plover]

guys i finally have a slaughterer i can sacrifice

[spice veldt]

oh I think that was in the past

[ruby plover]

[spice veldt]

I haven't exploded like that in a while

[ruby plover]

it took like 8 days

[spice veldt]

it's happened to me b4 though

[ruby plover]

to get a 2nd slaughterer

[olive ember]

Slaughterer 2

Oooffff

[spice veldt]

yeah; it doesn't matter what peril% you started charging from

it only matters what peril% you finish the cast with

[fresh steeple]

rippers

[spice veldt]

same goes for all other staffs

[ruby plover]

this is what i've been using this entire time

ill take any slaughterer i can sacrifice

[weak galleon]

wish i had bloodthirsty lvl4.

[ruby plover]

its okay

i've somehow gotten 2 bloodthirsty drops

[fresh steeple]

that's the only level it shows up at

bit redundant to specify level

[weak galleon]

okay.
wish I had bloodthirsty.

[ruby plover]

too bad

u cant have!

[spice veldt]

no touchy touchy

i have all the bloodthirsties, and you shall have none

[olive ember]

Isn’t bloodthirsty mid now

[weak galleon]

it's not bad, though.

[olive ember]

Literally only good on illisi

[ruby plover]

yes

[wide tiger]

I finally got it too, the day after the patch that nerfed it 😛

[spice veldt]

why didn't you simply play for 1000 hours before the patch to grind for it

[olive ember]

Honestly

How many hours

Dick measuring time

[olive ember]

Vet mains don’t count

[spice veldt]

I only played vet for 70 hours

[olive ember]

[spice veldt]

so 900-ish hours in practice

[feral verge]

can we ban this guy

[late yew]

How sustained fire exactly works?

[olive ember]

Once a filthy vet always a vet

[spice veldt]

I despise Vet's stamina regeneration since I like to be solo and out of position

[olive ember]

Just don’t use it?

[safe crystal]

On trauma, the second and third LMB will have the extra damage, then you need to wait a bit or quell. On voidstrike, it applies to your RMB as well, with the same rules

[late yew]

so take camo?

[spice veldt]

I like to be on the move

my reason for being solo is specifically to clear side paths, push ahead, and/or search for mats

I also prefer Unwavering Focus to walk into ranged enemies

[late yew]

and what is considered to be close ranged kill?

[spice veldt]

kills within 15 meters

[olive ember]

Camo vet

Oh boy

[spice veldt]

did they fix sustained fire to work for voidstrike RMB?

[safe crystal]

Its always worked, its just arguably garbage

[olive ember]

No clue sustained fire is a meme anyways

[spice veldt]

huh

[olive ember]

Like on literally every gun

[kind wing]

Oh, Deimos Heavy Attack Icons are wrong on the main weapon card

Damnit Fatshark

[olive ember]

That’s the 2nd and 3rd shot does extra dmg in a salvo yeah?

[safe crystal]

Its an added 60 damage for 2 shots, and you forfeit either faster charges or infinite spam

[spice veldt]

yeah

and it works differently from other +damage% blessings iirc

[olive ember]

Light -> heavy

[spice veldt]

in that it only works off your base damage and not any additional weakspot/crit

[kind wing]

I thought the 2nd Heavy is still considered Strikedown?

[spice veldt]

only god knows how fatshark is classifying attacks

though the 1st light and 2nd heavy should be assassinations imo

[kind wing]

The Heavy Attack Icon is... I think that's Vanguard

It's correct when you Inspect

But on the main card it's wack xd

[olive ember]

https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10

Honestly no clue

All ik is deimos is a meme

From our very own pygex

[kind wing]

Dueling Force Sword

[fresh steeple]

notbad methinks

[olive ember]

Yeah sustained fire is trash kek

[kind wing]

Goddamn I want that T4 Warp Flurry

[robust relic]

saaaaaaaad Fixed an issue that allowed the Deimos Mk IV Blaze Force Sword and the Illisi Mk V Blaze Force Sword to block ranged attacks without the Deflector Blessing.

[olive ember]

Only affects 2nd and 3rd shots in a salvo

[fresh steeple]

the warp resistance is a tad low, but I feel like it's mostly a dump stat compared to the others since the difference is so small

[kind wing]

This one's mine

[olive ember]

We all knew it was a bug but yeah rip

[fresh steeple]

the difference between 60 and 80 for a full charge is 3 peril

[kind wing]

My Warp Resistance is lower xd

[fresh steeple]

Flak over Unyielding?

perhaps wise, since I guess I'd attack any Unyielding with sword anyway

[spice veldt]

you shouldn't be using the trauma for bulwarks/reapers anyways

[whole oxide]

flak or maniac

[spice veldt]

unless you want to DPS down the bon bon

[fresh steeple]

well, I do to get brittleness on them 🙂

[kind wing]

Just blow up Bulwarks from the back to knock them on their ass

[spice veldt]

I use the force swords which have 100% against unyielding anyways

[kind wing]

Carapace was the only good roll on it so I added Flak

[spice veldt]

I can't think of a melee that does less than 100% damage against unyielding

excluding lights

[fresh steeple]

so it is done

[robust relic]

I didnt see any other changes really? some random bugfixes, and I think soulfire dot vs flak maybe got nerfed?

[whole oxide]

that was pretty much it for psyker

[kind wing]

Built-in Deflector for Deimos and Illisi also got removed, was a bug

[whole oxide]

psyker's in a pretty good spot atm though, so fine with letting it be

[olive ember]

Deflector built in was sadly a confirmed bug that the devs were gonna fix

[spark fractal]

Favorite purgatus perks / blessings anyone? IMO it doesn’t seem like a super blessing dependent weapon, but I want to know your thoughts

[olive ember]

“Bug” as in they forgot to strip the new force swords of deflector so you have to fish for the blessing

But yeah

[olive ember]

Nexus and flurry are the two best blessings easily

[robust relic]

was the bit about flak and burning 200%->100% include soulfire burning?

[spice veldt]

I personally like to have at least focused channeling on purg

[olive ember]

Yep global nerf

Meant for flamers

Hit psykers harder

10/10 fatshark moment

[runic hornet]

i'm weird, I don't like flurry on purgatus

i prefer can't-be-interrupted

[olive ember]

Eh

[runic hornet]

because having your toughness break from shooters->drops your charge

is more time loss IMO

[olive ember]

Idk I just don’t get staggered often enough

Maybe once or twice a game

[runic hornet]

if you have a fully charged purgatus staff for the horde and then some dickbutt dreg rifle 0s your toughness you drop the charge and it feels bad

[spark fractal]

And for perks? Flak + maniac?

[olive ember]

Def flak

[runic hornet]

faster charges in sequence is "better overall" but having my charge dropped has distracted me and gotten me killed before

[olive ember]

Prob maniac or crit chance

I mean then it’s just personal taste

But objectively speaking flurry and nexus are the two best

[runic hornet]

for target range dps sure

was purgatus stagger nerfed at all? zealot flamer was right

[fringe garden]

All flame dots were nerfed vs Flak armor, so yes

[whole oxide]

not the stagger

[runic hornet]

no, no

there's nothing like this for purgatus

the lower section of "impact vs"

[spice veldt]

stagger is a bit harder to visualize, so maybe we'll have to rely on people who can read code

[olive ember]

There was a note somewhere that went along the lines of “global flak burn dot changed from 200% -> 100%”

And that affects psyker soulblaze and effectively halves the dot against flak

[static pine]

Hello crazies, I have a quite lovely staff, wondering what I should reroll run n gun to and if I should reroll the unarmored enemies or not? thanks

[olive ember]

Change Run n gun to flurry

Change Un armored to maniac for ragers, unyielding for bosses and ogryns (besides crushers), crit chance for general use

[spice veldt]

hmm the soulblaze damage against flak is miffed, but the direct damage dealt by the purg is pretty passable

[static pine]

If you spam out barely charged attackss with warp flurry will it build the stacksjust the same?

[olive ember]

It’s passable but rip dot damage on psyker builds in general

[feral verge]

yes

[spice veldt]

that's true

rip AB, wrack & ruin, and wildfire

[static pine]

holy

[olive ember]

Blazing spirit

Wrack and ruin

[feral verge]

keep an eye out for a 76% (or higher) burn stat staff

[olive ember]

Again nerfs meant for zealot flamer hurts psyker more

Truly a 10/10 fatshark moment

Best part is flamer barely feel the nerfs

[feral verge]

at 76% you get another stack of burn that you can put on an enemy

[olive ember]

It’s like 3 more ammo to kill a mauler

Amazing

[feral verge]

shame oyu missed it by 1 point

[wide tiger]

I mean

[static pine]

Do you mean another stack per charged attack or straight up applying 2 stacks instead of 1?

[wide tiger]

i stopped using our soulblaze talents after warp unleashed got those buffs lol

[feral verge]

max stacks

[wide tiger]

so whatever

[static pine]

omg

[wide tiger]

but yeah why does soulblaze need nerfin, idk

[feral verge]

at 76% burn you can put 15 stacks on an enemy

[spice veldt]

prob because they reference the same values for burn as soulblaze I guess

[olive ember]

Yep

Burn values are global even tho they are two different debuffs

[wide tiger]

Their justification was pretty epic

Because zealot can use their F to bypass armor... nerf soulblaze

[spice veldt]

personally, I like it when games put the emphasis away from DoTs, but it does nerf a significant portion of Psyker's feats

[olive ember]

Had someone call me stupid and pulled out the ole “you’re a malice player” on me again because I said the nerfs sucked

[spice veldt]

so that's not good either

whatever malice player

[olive ember]

^^ see

I won’t stand for this elitism

[wide tiger]

i would like them to just can all the soublaze feats and give us something good in their place

😄

[feral verge]

you might be a malice player.. but you got the damnation border

[fresh steeple]

didn't they fix the crit thing with the patch notes?

[feral verge]

so you're an expert

[fresh steeple]

or was that something else they were talking about with "improper crit effects"

[spice veldt]

i'm not an elitist; i'm right wink wink

[olive ember]

Something else no clue what tho

[spice veldt]

I saw that mfing @

[olive ember]

I call you the lazorr of psyker chat

[spice veldt]

nice reply

[feral verge]

i am an extreme elitist

[spice veldt]

smh my head

[feral verge]

if you dont use the same build/playstyle as me, you are trash and are throwing

[olive ember]

Idk why discord on phone is trash smh

[spice veldt]

i'm only an elitist in regards to deflector and dodge-sliding

I think I'm pretty chill otherwise

[olive ember]

Fucking lies

Say that to surge staff

And hp curios

[spice veldt]

i've hidden the surge staff in the basement

I've advocated for HP curios before