couldnt see this guy's HP, but he survived too
#psyker-class
feral verge
olive ember
Literally unusable
gilded viper
Did a quick test and it really is mauler going to be more annoying instead of shoot their head 10 time for 10% and burn will kill them
still hearth
gilded viper
Normal enemy with flak is whatever since I go for the kill instead of burn killing them
Dot till the same on reaper so I'm fine
olive ember
What about maulers ragers and gunners kek
gilded viper
Gunner are around 100 dot which is ok if I'm already beaming half their health
Guess the thing how I see it I usually going to get them down to half health to make sure I get full stack of infernus amd the dot normally finish it off, it still kinda work like that
Mailers just ain't super free anymore
runic hornet
AB should still be able to kill things if you Force sword swap, right
AB->FS special->proc slaughter
feral verge
with healthbars on. 6 stacks of AB
runic hornet
because as I recall you obliterated scabs by a fairly large margin by doing that
rocky cedar
AB looking a little questionable as a pick to me now TBH. 4 stack AB especial which was manageable with blessing boosting before
late yew
It is not like you have better option with purgatus than ab anyway
olive ember
So yeah
feral verge
AB looking a little questionable as a pick to me now TBH. 4 stack AB especial wh...
i think it's definitely questionable on non purga builds
olive ember
AB is super questionable on non purge builds
gilded viper
I mean, I’m more curious of AB on non Warp Battery builds
feral verge
besides shredder, where it's a must
olive ember
I mean, I’m more curious of AB on non Warp Battery builds
Lol
I’m assuming 4 stack AB is dead
feral verge
I mean, I’m more curious of AB on non Warp Battery builds
i gotchu. hold on
rocky cedar
besides shredder, where it's a must
?????
cyan portal
Yeah, imo it has hit wildfire builds the hardest.
feral verge
with pinning fire
runic hornet
i think you mean shredder boosts AB damage
feral verge
found it to be shit
rocky cedar
with pinning fire
So does shooting for like 1 second
olive ember
Yeah, imo it has hit wildfire builds the hardest.
Lmao wildfire was always trash but now it’s literally no point
runic hornet
t4 Trauma wildfire w/ ascendant blaze can get a healthy amount of stacks in circulation
rocky cedar
Oh right yeah you meant the other way around
runic hornet
I play it
cyan portal
found it to be shit
It was good if you could get the 4 stacks to be leathal, with unstable slaughter fs it endless spread and killed things. Was very strong.
olive ember
I mean it’ll still kill… things
Just not anything above a poxwalker
I’m assuming ofc
feral verge
.
rocky cedar
Wildfire still gonna be ok for charge generation with trauma and illisi fire builds I guess
olive ember
But a 50% dmg nerf is E
runic hornet
Unlike with purgatus you actually regularly swap to your illisi so you can end up with instances where you get 2 crits of wildifre and then it gets unstable power+slaughterer buffed
gilded viper
So really this whole patch was just a wildfire nerf in disguise
olive ember
It’s a nerf to like 1/4 psyker builds
Anything utilizing a dot got nerfed
Purge, wildfire, blazing spirit, etc. etc.
feral verge
today is the day where high DMG stat purgas reign supreme
cyan portal
Unlike with purgatus you actually regularly swap to your illisi so you can end u...
peak purga had fs out most of the time.
olive ember
Ascendant blaze which is used in like 3 different builds
gilded viper
Lol no cap here
feral verge
DMG NO LONGER THE PURGA DUMPSTAT
gilded viper
Lame
spice veldt
soulblaze got the same nerfs as the flamer right
feral verge
think im sitll gonna run purga + AB as my main build
feral verge
soulblaze got the same nerfs as the flamer right
it's all DOTs, so yee
gilded viper
soulblaze got the same nerfs as the flamer right
Yah
spice veldt
so just flak, maniac, and carapace
gilded viper
The 200%-100% flak damage
spice veldt
still seems pretty fine
cyan portal
flamer also got reduced ammo and reduced stagger
feral verge
did you see my screenshots of AB + warp battery damage?
gilded viper
Maniac and carapace unchanged afaik
feral verge
@spice veldt
spice veldt
only like 40%-ish of the gunner and like an eigth of the mauler's hp
olive ember
Pls no not another “just flak”
gilded viper
Wait all dot was nerfed? So is bleed zealot dead in the water? And what about ogryn? Don’t they use bleed for dr?
feral verge
yee
spice veldt
whew
olive ember
Burn dot
gilded viper
But is it not just flak that got nerf for all dot?
radiant lance
Do you guys like Slaughterer on Deimos? Feels kind pointless for a non-horde weapon.
rigid sky
Wait all dot was nerfed? So is bleed zealot dead in the water? And what about og...
Most Ogryn don't
runic hornet
bleed zealot was never about bleed damage
olive ember
Just flak iirc
runic hornet
it was about proccing crits
arguably, bleed damage going down is a buff for crit zealot
feral verge
Do you guys like Slaughterer on Deimos? Feels kind pointless for a non-horde wea...
slaughterer helps deimos shore up it's horde weakness
olive ember
There are more nerfs applied directly to flamer
feral verge
so its nice to have
rocky cedar
Do you guys like Slaughterer on Deimos? Feels kind pointless for a non-horde wea...
You kill hordes fine with Deimos
radiant lance
slaughterer helps deimos shore up it's horde weakness
You probably pair Deimos with a horde weapon anyway though.
spice veldt
i always want some good hordeclear on my melee so slaughterer is a bit of a must-have if I can
gilded viper
Deimos is fine, not Illisi, but fine.
Obscurus tho 
radiant lance
i always want some good hordeclear on my melee so slaughterer is a bit of a must...
Even if you already have a Purg/Voidstrike?
spice veldt
and not only for hordeclear but to make space and push enemies away
feral verge
Even if you already have a Purg/Voidstrike?
yes
cyan notch
still good for ascendant blaze
feral verge
i have an illisi that i love to use with purgatus
cyan notch
one poke in the head +15 power
olive ember
I perform better with my obscurus than my illisi or my deimos tbh
spice veldt
with purg, sure; with voidstrike, especially so
olive ember
It’s kinda a bruh moment
gilded viper
Illisi Purge is my favorite
feral verge
illisi is still a decent single target weapon
illisi + purga makes me play like a flamer zealot, it's awesome
gilded viper
Keep forgetting power give push the extra stagger
Man if we get a proper melee psyker. Illisi Purge is only gonna be better
feral verge
this is what i like to run with my purga, when not fucking around with deimos
this thing fucks hard
karmic reef
I perform better with my obscurus than my illisi or my deimos tbh
I like Deimos
feral verge
the only thing it cant do is carapace, but you BB those anyway
radiant lance
this is what i like to run with my purga, when not fucking around with deimos
Awesome roll
Why Exorcist?
feral verge
Why Exorcist?
great question
gilded viper
radiant lance
And not Slaughterer
feral verge
when i got exorcist 4 on it, i as pissed at first. thought it was bricked
but when i played with it, i found i really liked it
because this thing a peril generating machine
gilded viper
Wasn’t a very useful exorcist bug nerfed this patch?
cyan portal
with purga, 95% dot ticks does work
spice veldt
still activates on weakspot yeah?
radiant lance
still activates on weakspot yeah?
Should, but it will probably feel a lot worse now I reckon
spice veldt
you shouldn't have trouble hitting headshots anyways
feral verge
i use purga until 100% peril, then swap to my illisi to quickly get to 50% peril. regenerating bonus toughness the whole time, from quietitude + exorcist
feral verge
Oh uh, you know Exorcist was nerfed right?
i know it was nerfed, but i had no idea that bug was in game, in the first place
i always aim for the head anyway
spice veldt
yeah, but the bug fix won't affect the repeated weakspots behavior anyhow
feral verge
exorcist lets me play even more aggressive
radiant lance
yeah, but the bug fix won't affect the repeated weakspots behavior anyhow
It will make it a lot harder probably now.
radiant lance
Since before any hit was a "repeated weakspot" hit
spice veldt
how hard is it for you to hit a weakspot with the illisi
feral verge
because t4 is 5% peril, which is what quietitude needs
spice veldt
it's still hard because it only procs on the second swing
feral verge
how hard is it for you to hit a weakspot with the illisi
its piss easy
radiant lance
Now if you hit a weakspot, then not a weakspot, and then a weakspot, you might not quell any peril, no? That's what I mean.
spice veldt
the second swing of the illisi is a diagonal
as long as you hit at least one weakspot in your cleave, it counts
gilded viper
Worse case scenario, time will pass and u start passive quelling
cyan portal
with warp unleashed you don't want to be dropping peril though, purg up to 100 peril then start chopping of heads and charging it now and then to hold 100 peril
spice veldt
that's why I don't find the bug fix particularly impactful
karmic reef
with purga, 95% dot ticks does work
I havent used the illsi, I use deimos rn, is it good?
radiant lance
as long as you hit at least one weakspot in your cleave, it counts
Does it? Shouldn't it only count from the second onward?
Since it's on "repeated"
gilded viper
I havent used the illsi, I use deimos rn, is it good?
Super good
spice veldt
yeah; I'll clarify that to be on the second swing and onwards after the first initial swing that hit a weakspot(s)
feral verge
with warp unleashed you don't want to be dropping peril though, purg up to 100 p...
with illisi it's easy to generate peril
karmic reef
I like having the faster single target dmg, but I would like to have horde clear for when I'm at high peril and cant use purgatus
gilded viper
Like might be the best melee in the game good imo
karmic reef
is it still good for single target dmg
feral verge
yes
magic burrow
Ilisi is now basically a power sword that generates peril
gilded viper
Yep
karmic reef
mine has 41% warp resist
oh does it give you peril per enemy hit when charged?
radiant lance
yeah; I'll clarify that to be on the second swing and onwards after the first in...
I do wonder though, if you hit a weakspot, regular, weakspot, would the regular hit in the middle interrupt your peril quelling with Exo
karmic reef
thats pretty nuts
magic burrow
no, you gain peril when you charge
feral verge
with warp unleashed + unstable power + 6 warp charges, the thing hits like a truck
olive ember
Welp dot nerf
karmic reef
Ilisi is now basically a power sword that generates peril
cant wait for it to get nerfed like psword bc its fun
karmic reef
Psyker is dead now
Eh, i'm still gonna keep playing psyker
spice veldt
I do wonder though, if you hit a weakspot, regular, weakspot, would the regular ...
if it's on different swings, yeah it will; if it's cleaving multiple targets in a single swing, it won't
karmic reef
with the exact same build
radiant lance
@spice veldt I think the optimal hit-chain is actually heavy 1, cancel, heavy 1, repeat
feral verge
im sure most of ya'll have seen this/know about this
spice veldt
yeah that's optimal
feral verge
magic burrow
Power sword was nuts because you got multiple swings per activation. With the Ilisi, it's only one swing just like the nerfed power sword.
spice veldt
but we're talking specifically about exorcist
feral verge
that's what 41% peril resist looks like
spice veldt
if you qq cancel the 1st heavy, then you can't proc it
radiant lance
but we're talking specifically about exorcist
Yeah and the heavy 1 is horizontal
spice veldt
bruh I know
cyan notch
spice veldt
I've been telling everyone to QQ cancel the 1st heavy since the beginning
cyan portal
I just pretty miffed that my zealot bros still burn heretics better then me when my whole build is focused on it and for them its just their off hand weapon.
olive ember
Power sword was nuts because you got multiple swings per activation. With the Il...
Psword does still have power cycler that lets you do 3 swings
cyan notch
nvm fuck this shit
radiant lance
I've been telling everyone to QQ cancel the 1st heavy since the beginning
OK thought you meant this chain isn't optimal for exo
radiant lance
nvm fuck this shit
Lol
spice veldt
the conversation about exorcist and the optimal attack chain for illisi are two different conversations
karmic reef
can anyone link the patch notes?
radiant lance
the conversation about exorcist and the optimal attack chain for illisi are two ...
OK, I just meant that the optimal attack chain for illisi is also the optimal attack chain for exo
spice veldt
also the illisi still seems to cleave through multiple elites/specials
blocking/swapping weapons interrupts the "repeated" condition
magic burrow
has anyone tried a full on DoT purgatus run yet? Im kind of worried that they killed off a lot of psyker DoT stuff as a kneejerk reaction to Zealot flamer being OP
spice veldt
hence it will prevent exorcist from proccing
ornate hamlet
I just pretty miffed that my zealot bros still burn heretics better then me when...
well, you also have an aoe stagger ult, infinite ammo on your flamethrower and an aimbot long range attack
leaden thunder
has anyone tried a full on DoT purgatus run yet? Im kind of worried that they ki...
scroll up
we've tested stuff
it's still mostly fine
worse vs elites but 6 stacks still kills shooters/stalkers with any damage boost
magic burrow
ahh okay
feral verge
@magic burrow AB + 6 stacks of warp charges
olive ember
nvm fuck this shit
Are you pleased varlet
leaden thunder
<@230628030525997066> AB + 6 stacks of warp charges
do you have warp unleashed?
radiant lance
blocking/swapping weapons interrupts the "repeated" condition
Ohhhh, didn't realize
gilded viper
Can we go 1 patch without a psyker nerf?
cyan notch
Are you pleased varlet
radiant lance
<@230628030525997066> AB + 6 stacks of warp charges
Yikes
magic burrow
I use AB with the voidstrike staff, but mostly so I can get charges back quickly and not neccesarily for DoT damage, so no real loss there I guess
leaden thunder
I need to check if warp unleashed with 0 peril puts you over the breakpoint for stalkers
magic burrow
but I hate how we have so much soulburn stuff and they just blanket nerfed it all because zealot flamer OP
feral verge
do you have warp unleashed?
yes
leaden thunder
hmm
feral verge
the pic is with warp unleashed
leaden thunder
so you do need a little peril
spice veldt
i mean it wasn't only the flamer/burn that was strong
leaden thunder
ot make it 1 shot
feral verge
im not sure if i was at high peril
leaden thunder
with it at like 70-80 it def 1 shots
spice veldt
purg/flamer still wipes the floor with unarmoured/infested
magic burrow
soulburn also damages slower than regular burn
leaden thunder
so just ab then stroke your ilisi a couple times
spice veldt
sure, but the damage is only one part of the equation
being able to spread it to every enemy in your vicinity is another reason why they're strong
spice veldt
you never see anyone remarking about how good Dots (except bleed) are good on bosses
ornate hamlet
common gun psyker w 
leaden thunder
you never see anyone remarking about how good Dots (except bleed) are good on bo...
even bleed is decent on bosses
spice veldt
yup
olive ember
you never see anyone remarking about how good Dots (except bleed) are good on bo...
I mean everyone was gushing about ascendant blaze
And you took overpressure specifically for boss dot dmg
shy prairie
gilded viper
Always funny just sitting there watching a pysker/zealot just nuke the horde of elite with burn damage
spice veldt
though zealots have the thunderhammer
leaden thunder
ok so it seems if you have like
at least 25% peril
and warp unleashed
you still 1 shot stalkers
spice veldt
the challenge prob
feral verge
<:PepeHands:609281097603219456>
that isn't horrible homie
put slaughter or unstable power over precog
and elite dmg to maniac
and that thing will fuck
radiant lance
Probably Slaughter over Unstable Power imo
olive ember
Replace precog with slaughterer and you chilling
radiant lance
Honestly Unstable Power with how much passive quelling was buffed isn't all that big
feral verge
slaughterer is more power, but for my preferences/purposes i like unstable power for it's first strike capability
leaden thunder
how much damage boost does warp unleashed give at 25% peril?
feral verge
slaughterer is the best blessing on FS tho, im not debvating that
shy prairie
i already have a slaughterer/unstable on a somewhat decent iblisi
proven raven
I don't get why people doing grim questr
Grims are fun and get me many space bucks
feral verge
how much damage boost does warp unleashed give at 25% peril?
i think it should be 15%
cyan portal
Logged soulblaze change as a bug, will see if they acknowledge it.
leaden thunder
so you need like at least 15% ish damage boost to 1 shot stalkers then
spice veldt
assuming the equation is 10% + 15% * 25%, it should be 13.75%
magic burrow
is bloodthirsty any decent on the ilisi?
feral verge
meh
feral verge
its not the worst
leaden thunder
that is one thing that is baffling
they leave out
the super rare t4 only blessing from their fix bug then buff thing
they have going on
late yew
Grims are fun and get me many space bucks
I don't mind doing them , imean specifically actively searching for them because of quest
We'll bang, ok?
cyan portal
"Fixed an issue with the Artemia Mk III Purgation Flamer and the Rifthaven Mk II Purgatus Force Staff where crits would not apply correct damage and/or burn stacks on burned enemies." Has anyone worked out what this means? Do crits still apply double dots?
leaden thunder
it means the do again
cyan notch
olive ember
Welp anyways
magic burrow
gonna run a purge game to check the impact
cyan notch
its not that great
tried it didnt like it
the minimap is quite big
looks really out of place too
feral verge
trying it at the bottom right
(moved the equipped item wep menu, cuz i dont need that)
feral verge
gonna use developer console for that
gonna open it and type
get current weapon
every time i swap
spice veldt
most sane cli enjoyer
tepid sinew
My current best melee weapons, but which of the two blessings should I replace and what should I replace them with?
Feels like the two blessings both kind of give a similar 20% power, but limb splitter reduces other dmg but, I have heard people say that was the better one so I am not really sure
spice veldt
for hordeclear, you should replace limbsplitter with brutal momentum
limbsplitter really only impacts push-attacks, but you ideally should not be push-attacking if possible
fallow meadow
Push attack until the world end.
You don't need limbsplitter if you have T4 head taker though.
idle bay
Speaking of this graph. Yesterday it was 65% recent positive reviews. Now it's 62% .
gilded viper
Guess the dream of getting possive is dead
See if people are that upset with the nerf
cyan notch
the red line is the number of powersword vets
spice veldt
and flamer zealots
shadow quail
it'll never get overall positive imo maybe recent
near wyvern
Nah, crit change just gor buffed cause apparently it was not always adding double stacks.
blazing oak
Other than the ammo part I really don’t see the flamer nerf as a big deal for the flamer specifically
olive ember
Speaking of this graph. Yesterday it was 65% recent positive reviews. Now it's 6...
Zealot chat got some funny screenshots
The reviews are big funny
idle bay
puts hazmat suit on Here we go reading zealot chat!
cyan notch
i dont think it changed flamer boss damage
supple skiff
GODSPEED SIBLING
cyan notch
just mag size and ammo
blazing oak
It’s only changed dmg and stagger for armored and maniacs
supple skiff
while looking at the reviews I noticed this for the first time
really are playing it fast and loose with the promotional material
near wyvern
@summer prairie
supple skiff
on an unrelated note just did a hi intensity + hounds run on damnation with 3 psykers ( 2 of which were using purge) and an orgyn
I uh think im good on hi intensity for a while lmao
orchid shadow
the red line is the number of powersword vets
And just like when I got the Bloodthirsty blessing after the nerf, Powercycler will finally be in Melk's shop for me after this patch.
supple skiff
love sitting throuh loading screens just to join a game thats over
ornate hamlet
<@204309481427959809>
https://youtu.be/l_ol8sMQQDc
warp ogryn
idle bay
Burning hazmat suit it was not that bad really.
blazing oak
I think it’s funny that so many people, probably with good gaming rigs or something, report long loading times while my “unsupported” steam deck doesn’t take too long
spice veldt
perhaps with no ssd
ornate hamlet
i have this on an ssd i bought some years ago
spice veldt
god bless
leaden thunder
with a crit chance perk
ornate hamlet
all my homies hate dodge blessings
leaden thunder
time to
spice veldt
that's like 50% crit chance at max right
spice veldt
49%
leaden thunder
so 54%
ornate hamlet
unplayable
leaden thunder
I think
leaden thunder
all classes but vet base crit chance tbf
spice veldt
like a baby's cries
olive ember
I uh think im good on hi intensity for a while lmao
Pshh only hi int? Real men play hi-shock
leaden thunder
now it's time to literally never use it unless they buff the fuck out of dueling sword
it's the mk2 one btw
i literally have no idea about any of the dueling sword marks other then that I didn't like any when I tried them
spice veldt
2 cleave and that's all she wrote
magic burrow
Id like to see a Hi-shock lights out doggo ventilation purge sniper damnation game
spice veldt
cycling through all conditions randomly
ornate hamlet
ngl weapons should have their own crit chances
magic burrow
every minute a wheel of misfortune rolls
olive ember
Id like to see a Hi-shock lights out doggo ventilation purge sniper damnation ga...
Lmao 30 hr just to make it to halfway point
ornate hamlet
basically like taxe
spice veldt
leaden thunder
the stub revolver isn't quite right
magic burrow
Lmao 30 hr just to make it to halfway point
oh an every abomination enemy is replaced with a sanctum redactus boss
leaden thunder
since it has crit chance scaling in it's stats
ornate hamlet
though the laspistol has no listed crit stat, to my knowledge
leaden thunder
it doesn't
ornate hamlet
its damage, mobility, stability, ammo and stopping power
spice veldt
yeah it's not listed anywhere in-game
leaden thunder
nor does the knife
ornate hamlet
spice veldt
weapons can have stats that aren't listed in their stat card
ornate hamlet
i have been fatsharked
spice veldt
e.g., the defence stat scaling block cost but not being listed anywhere
ornate hamlet
oh yeah, speaking of
ornate hamlet
does block cost affect kinetic deflections peril buildup?
spice veldt
yes
ornate hamlet
well, at least my curios arent being wasted
spice veldt
it affects stamina consumption, which in turn affects the peril generation
spice veldt
chad trauma user that only needs 25%-ish peril
magic burrow
my melee game is wildly flailing me weapon around while randomly dodging and shrieking for the ogryn to come save me
spice veldt
mines is spamming dodge with force swords, dodging attacks that I didn't even notice, and pretending that I did it intentionally
ornate hamlet
i dont know what i hit, i just swing and sometimes it connects
magic burrow
red X good, white X bad
I dont know what it is, I just cant seem to figure out how to block effectively in this game
spice veldt
dodging seems to be the name of the game
blazing oak
I’m convinced that when block pushing with the force sword, there’s a small window where they can hit you
spice veldt
the only attacks you really only need to block are the rager combos, plogryn uppercut, etc.
most melee attacks are either dodgeable or can have their tracking broken
vagrant frigate
fire helps build stacks also better at knocking dogs off people n shit I never use bb ever
spice veldt
smh smh my head
spice veldt
I’m convinced that when block pushing with the force sword, there’s a small wind...
there probably is, though usually pushing is enough to stagger most enemies; easily testable against ragers
i know for a fact that there is a window to get attacked during push-attacks
not sure about pushes
blazing oak
When you do the push block, after your psyker closes the fist and before they release, that’s the window
Usually exploited by enemies behind you
spice veldt
hmm just spawned a bunch of ragers and they couldn't hurt me even if I was spamming push
are you talking about the push or push-attack
idle bay
I crafted this gun in preparation to this patch month ago 🙂
spice veldt
what soulblaze nerfs does to a mf
witness this high display of skill(tm) as I intentionally dodge attacks that I saw coming a mile away https://streamable.com/dfg8rx
vestal rose
i love the illisi so much
its all i ever wanted
it gives me enough joy to sink another 200 hours into psyker
spice veldt
it cured me of my veteran withdrawal
vestal rose
love this thing
unstable power higher than rank 2 pls, fatshark
olive ember
Disgusting
spice veldt
I was a vet main before I transitioned into being a psyker
shadow quail
I get the feeling we will get a huge nerf next
blazing oak
Gotta play Vet to get that achievement for 4 classes man
olive ember
I bet you used powersword too
supple skiff
https://prnt.sc/v8Gx62AMS2c1 single highest item rating drop ive gotten from a gift
olive ember
cringe
west galleon
Wait there are people that dont use kinetic barrage??
vestal rose
what matters is that they saw the light and are atoning for their sins
undone badge
what's with all the classes using autopistols suddenly
olive ember
That shit broken
vestal rose
stronk
fun
brrr
looks cool
spice veldt
pinning fire makes autopistols absolutely busted
magic burrow
I prefer Ascendant Blaze because I like to swap back to my primary weapon after ulting
olive ember
That’s why every class uses autopistol
spice veldt
at t4, that's 100% power
supple skiff
ulting with barrage and dropping a group of charging ragers with BB is chefs kiss
vestal rose
i also really really hate mutants
blazing oak
Y’all use more than one ranged weapon and one melee weapon?
spice veldt
no i only use the trauma staff and illisi
blazing oak
The second I got a surge I never equipped anything else :L
magic burrow
I dual wield staves.
spice veldt
any mentions of me using guns is fake news
magic burrow
void strike in the left hand, surge in the right hand
olive ember
I had a purge staff build for lights out and pox hounds
undone badge
no wonder lol
vestal rose
shredder, run and gun purgatus, forbidden revolver
theyre fun weapons
olive ember
But now I’ll just run autopistol
vestal rose
can't stick to just one
supple skiff
void and illsi until we get something akin to a beam staff
olive ember
any mentions of me using guns is fake news
Wte you say vet main
magic burrow
I hate that the fun map modes only come online after I go to bed
blazing oak
No actually the only character I use more than one weapon on is the Vet, where I switch between shotgun and recon
Otherwise I haven’t switched in a hundred hours or something
spice veldt
Wte you say vet main
fake news
ruby plover
wait u guys actually used staves still?
magic burrow
I swap between whatever based on my mood
magic burrow
I crafted a noice voidstrike staff, so Im using that a lot lately
kind wing
If you do, I'll cry
blazing oak
@kind wing good for you for liking the weapon you want to like
kind wing
twilit flicker
Those are happy tears
kind wing
blazing oak
Your psyker you mean
olive ember
Shit class I’m going to go play ogryn now
blazing oak
Okay board the black ship first
radiant lance
FS really can't get enough of nerfing Psyker lol
late yew
Damn, high intensity with dogs is hard
kind wing
Eh I mean it's not like other weapon choices exist
late yew
Psyker is officially dead
Ok, he is dead, now please play some other class and gtfo from this channel
kind wing
Can never get too complacent and comfortable
late yew
Eh I mean it's not like other weapon choices exist
literal skill issue
karmic reef
I just like purgatus soulblaze builds bc I dont have to worry about managing stacks since theres a lot of passive gain of warp stacks
late yew
if you only can do well by using op purgatus, you have severe skill issue
olive ember
?? This guy got a problem
olive ember
Purge staff is bad now idk what to say
blazing oak
You said psyker is dead too
gilded viper
So surge > prug is what u saying 
blazing oak
Hang on there don’t drag surge into the dps staff arguments
kind wing
Love seeing stunned Muties
late yew
Purge staff is bad now idk what to say
It says more about you than about class
You are just very bad
kind wing
Nah don't acknowledge him
karmic reef
are the other staffs besides void strike any good? In my experience surge feels underwhelming for the peril cost, and it hits so few enemies
feral verge
derpy isnt bad
olive ember
Dude I’ve played psyker longer than you and I’m probably better than you
feral verge
he has the damnation border
blazing oak
are the other staffs besides void strike any good? In my experience surge feels ...
Depends. What kind of player are you
karmic reef
but I'll be honest, I havent experimented much with staffs
olive ember
You literally came to this chat like a month ago asking for help lmao
late yew
are the other staffs besides void strike any good? In my experience surge feels ...
Don't use it against horde. Use it against elites and specials
idle bay
As Surge staff enjoyer i did not felt this patch at all, but empathically sad for Siblings who were affected by AB nerf
blazing oak
Surge is for players who like helping teammates
olive ember
Not to gatekeep but yeah
vestal rose
wait what did they do to purgatus?
kind wing
are the other staffs besides void strike any good? In my experience surge feels ...
I actually really like Trauma Staff, big boom but hard Peril management
kind wing
wait what did they do to purgatus?
Nerfed its overall DoT so you can't be braindead
late yew
wait what did they do to purgatus?
just nerfed DOT damage to flak from 200% to 100%
gilded viper
he has the damnation border
He always made the best metagunpsyker build tm and have video proof on t5 hi
late yew
dead class btw
karmic reef
Depends. What kind of player are you
Well I kinda wanna focus on horde control and minor special focus if I can get off the brain burst
vestal rose
oh
to flak
olive ember
This guy thinks am damage nerf is inconsequential
blazing oak
Then Purgatus or trauma would work no?
olive ember
Actually bad take
karmic reef
hence why I use purgatus
late yew
I actually really like Trauma Staff, big boom but hard Peril management
Peril managment is piss easy after vermintide
vestal rose
that doesn't seem horrible
i mean yeah no dead class shut it down
kind wing
Yeah Vermintide was much more punishing
Imagine if managing Peril took away your HP here too LOL
vestal rose
is sad for AB tho
spice veldt
vets be like
blazing oak
are the other staffs besides void strike any good? In my experience surge feels ...
I think each staff is good but each is for different types of players
olive ember
Imagine if managing Peril took away your HP here too LOL
I mean VT used temp hp
gilded viper
Unchained main, get hit once and dies for it
late yew
FFS when i use purgatus, everyone else using purgatus/flamers
karmic reef
Then Purgatus or trauma would work no?
I like trauma, but doesnt the m2 mostly fling enemies instead of killing them?
magic burrow
late yew
When i switch to fuckn surge
olive ember
That’s the big difference you don’t have temp hp just toughness
vestal rose
wait, did the nerf apply to soulblaze from AB ut?
spice veldt
I like trauma, but doesnt the m2 mostly fling enemies instead of killing them?
the outer area only flings groaners/poxwalkers, and the epicentre will fling enemies that it doesn't kill
kind wing
The psyker in my team ALSO has surge
That's why you get the mod to check what Ranged weapons your teammates are carrying
olive ember
wait, did the nerf apply to soulblaze from AB ut?
Anything that burns does 50% less dmg to flak
spice veldt
ideally, your trauma staff should be able to one-shot all non-elites/specials
kind wing
Or you just ask what staff they use
magic burrow
the nerf applies to all damage over time effects
olive ember
So AB, wildfire, blazing spirit, purge staff
vestal rose
Anything that burns does 50% less dmg to flak
ok yeah that's very sad for AB :C
spice veldt
including bleed?
blazing oak
The psyker in my team ALSO has surge
Actually the worst thing in this game. Please ban other surge psykers when I’m using surge
kind wing
I need to check what Blessings for Damage can be run on Trauma Staff
spice veldt
I need to check what Blessings for Damage can be run on Trauma Staff
basically none except nexus (crit), surge (which only works on LMB), or flurry (rate of fire)
olive ember
So yeah 1/4 of psyker builds got a funny nerf to any enemy with flak armor
kind wing
basically none except nexus (crit), surge (which only works on LMB), or flurry (...
Welp guess my Trauma Staff works enough
late yew
That's why you get the mod to check what Ranged weapons your teammates are carry...
I hav e it
spice veldt
I personally run a focused channeling + rending trauma staff
late yew
wait, did the nerf apply to soulblaze from AB ut?
to all dots
blazing oak
to all dots
Bleed?
kind wing
Then I don't see why you can't tell them to change or change your own weapon 
gilded viper
Burn dot*
spice veldt
lmao everyone is forgetting that bleed exists
kind wing
Bleed inconsequential unfort
long osprey
Purgatus wasn’t too OP imo
gilded viper
Bleed 
kind wing
I see Vets run Bleed Stacks on Grenades but I think that's not the best slot used for Talents
Still okay tho
Lotta blood is nice
olive ember
What you mean if you think getting your dot dmg nerfed 50% is bad then you are just scrub
spice veldt
it's not like the damage nerf is too bad, since the main advantage of purg is being able to spread soulblaze to any and all enemies that aren't blocked by a wall or bulwark
late yew
Purgatus wasn’t too OP imo
Yeah, which is why 9/10 psykers used only it
kind wing
To be fair I saw a lot more Purg Staff Psykers than usual with the previous patch
blazing oak
WAIT FUCK more psykers might start using surge in my games while I’m using surge now!
olive ember
This guy is literally the most confidently wrong person I’ve seen in psyker chat in a while
kind wing
Probably testing out Wildfire though
olive ember
WAIT FUCK more psykers might start using surge in my games while I’m using surge...
Just realized?
rigid sky
Only like maybe 1/3 of psykers used purge
Unless you are Purge as well, then you get 2 more + a flamer
spice veldt
i'd say that I've seen more purg psykers than any other psykers, though that's not the most reliable source of data
olive ember
Unless you are Purge as well, then you get 2 more + a flamer
Most psykers I found used voidstrike or trauma
blazing oak
Just realized?
Ye
olive ember
I see a purge build maybe 1 in 4 games
vestal rose
i had a 4 purgatus damnation high intensity once
we did not win but it was funny
kind wing
Had a Purg Psyker that did not know how to do proper Peril control at all in Hi-Int Damnation
blazing oak
Actually wait don’t buff surge. I don’t want competition
kind wing
Blew up 5+ times total during the whole mission
late yew
Most psykers I found used voidstrike or trauma
on what, diff 2?
kind wing
Someone definitely was braindead
olive ember
on what, diff 2?
Lol dude you don’t know what you are talking about, literally was asking for help like a month ago
kind wing
Imagine not learning through trial by fire
blazing oak
Imagine helping others in a team based game
kind wing
And struggling like the rest of us did
olive ember
Idrc if he’s asking just the fact that he acts like he knows everything when he’s confidently wrong with every other sentence today
vestal rose
damage purgatus psykers are heartbroken
but me out here with my run n gun and terrifying barrage? doesn't even matter babey
spice veldt
well, it's a fair question given that you are a self-admitted malice player
kind wing
You're the one getting worked up over it and acknowledging him anyway
olive ember
Kek very true
olive ember
damage purgatus psykers are heartbroken
but me out here with my run n gun and te...
What are you even using? An auto gun?
vestal rose
What are you even using? An auto gun?
a purgatus
olive ember
More work than necessary
Eh I have nothing better to do while waiting for a bus
spice veldt
a burger
kind wing
You do have something better to do tho, YouTube
vestal rose
burgatus
kind wing
kind wing
Damn
spice veldt
i'm sure you won't any sideeyes if you listen to your catgirl asmr at the bus stop
feral verge
Discord arguments are my sustenance as I wait 3 hours between classes
wtf? just drop out. so stupid
olive ember
Why else do you think I was arguing with arcotash about illisi nerfs
kind wing
Truly sociopathic behavior 
spice veldt
i forget what that argument was about
vestal rose
You could do literally anything else with your time, though
spice veldt
i'm too smoothbrained to retain anything past a week ago
vestal rose
you'd be happier, and so would everyone else :)
olive ember
i forget what that argument was about
Whether or not the illisi should get nerfed
feral verge
i forget what that argument was about
i think ya'll were arguing about what traits made me the best psyker of all time
kind wing
Imagine trying to impress people that don't matter in your life in the grand scheme of things
Couldn't be me
spice veldt
i think ya'll were arguing about what traits made me the best psyker of all time
ah yes, the striking figure of your majesty and how you can clutch hishock vent purge sniper hunting ground gauntlet
kind wing
Happy with blowing shit up and blowing myself up for underestimating the Peril gain from Trauma Staff
vestal rose
i think ya'll were arguing about what traits made me the best psyker of all time
Where to start? Being a cult leader is already a pretty impressive quality
Orchestrating the death of the emperor? Excellent work
magic burrow
I used to use purgatus a lot, but swapped over to voidstrike once I got a decent staff. I dont know if it's better, but it's just so much more fun. Also not having to swap to brainburst every time you need to kill something slightly out of purge range feels like such a quality of life improvement
spice veldt
I don't blow myself up with the trauma staff anymore (too much), but I get fucked by my muscle memory because I activate my illisi's special out of habit for mutants
kind wing
Truly be like that
I am a walking skill issue and you will have to put up with me
No questions
blazing oak
"Oops my F is on cooldown"
And then the dot manages to kill a poxwalker and you hit the 10% quell on kill and you live
spice veldt
all according to keikaku
olive ember
well, it's a fair question given that you are a self-admitted malice player
Also I just realized I say I play on malice and he said I played on diff 2
So I still have the right to get mad
spice veldt
close nuff
quiet galleon
is Finesse important for the Deimos?
olive ember
.>
kind wing
I don't run Ascendant Blaze on my Trauma but that actually sounds like a much better idea
I was running Quickening
spice veldt
there's no difference between 2 and 3 because 2 * 3 = 9
spice veldt
and 3 * 2 = 4
magic burrow
All according to cake (editors note: cake means keikaku (translator's note: keikaku is japanese for plan))
olive ember
Ya know I’m so scatter brained I rly thought 2* 3 = 9 for like 10 seconds
blazing oak
Mind in motion
olive ember
How am I a CS major
kind wing
You can't be a CS Major if not scatterbrained
Also not surprised you're a CS Major for some reason but that's unrelated
olive ember
Wats the reason kek
vestal rose
yo fuck CS tho
vestal rose
never shoulda learned to code
vestal rose
fuck that shit
kind wing
Everyone who does CS Major for college basically has nothing better to do with their time xd
kind wing
I know too many socially dead CS Majors
olive ember
Well not tru
I should be working on a coding assignment but
I don’t know what the fuck I’m doing
kind wing
It's really sad, family probably told them that CS is the only way to make money
vestal rose
I should be working on a coding assignment but
when's it due
olive ember
Tmrw
magic burrow
tfw running Quickening Psyker and the Ogryn praises Shouty, but he's talking about the Zealot and not about you
vestal rose
u got like 24 hours homie its chill,do it later
olive ember
Lol true
olive ember
It's really sad, family probably told them that CS is the only way to make money
🤔 I mean not true
That’s doctor or lawyer
kind wing
I blame my recency bias
vestal rose
It's really sad, family probably told them that CS is the only way to make money
I think the socially dead part is more due to the way most CS majors are
kind wing
I mean of course
But it's moreso them being egged into doing it
Probably happier doing something else that isn't... that
olive ember
Eh I chose CS cuz I have literally zero motivation
vestal rose
huh
most of em seemed like they wanted to be there in my experience but yeah
who knows
kind wing
Yeah that's very fair
olive ember
And then I was like “hey I play games sure let’s do CS”
kind wing
Some do like being there and are just working on putting up with it
olive ember
And tada I’m a CS major
kind wing
That's really life
vestal rose
(A lotta CS majors and stuff I knew did not get jobs writing code cause they did not try at all, ever lmao)
(but maybe that's just people in every course)
olive ember
Idk I’m suffering in CS meanwhile in my Econ classes I legit barely study and get atleast 80’s so
Maybe I should’ve just taken the easy way out
vestal rose
Idk I’m suffering in CS meanwhile in my Econ classes I legit barely study and ge...
do you enjoy writing code?
kind wing
I meaaaaaan you just find the code off'a Google and paste it and it works out
Apparently xd
olive ember
do you enjoy writing code?
hah you see I thought I would
vestal rose
I don't mean assignments or whatever, but your own lil projects
fucking around, taht kinda deal
olive ember
But sunk cost fallacy half my college is over already
kind wing
I'm actually thinking of making the big jump and dropping out myself
I see no gain
At least CS Majors have prospects
olive ember
Eh not rly tbh, but meh
olive ember
I’m not gonna comment
kind wing
Perfect for guaranteeing a job at Subway
Praying for me won't help, even the Emperor has abandoned me
vestal rose
i truly hate how education is just "a path to a job" ;-;
kind wing
Modern education is now just mostly gaslighting people into higher education so they can get more money
Tuition increases every year
olive ember
I mean high school is where you are supposed to find your interests
Too bad nothing interested me
kind wing
Only thing that interested me was art and video games
olive ember
But eh atleast CS I feel like I’m actually doing something whenever I get an assignment done
kind wing
I already tried my hand at the computer stuff, ain't my cup of tea
I however do like drawing
olive ember
Like when I get a program to properly word wrap text it’s like “hey I did something”
kind wing
Rewarding
olive ember
Unlike Econ where it’s just “yeah I memorized this term and I have a basic understanding of high school math”
kind wing
That could fix Microsoft Word being a dumbo with text wrapping xd
olive ember
It is funny as a CS major dipping into Econ major
late yew
Idrc if he’s asking just the fact that he acts like he knows everything when he’...
You realise everyone thinks you are a clown right
scarlet timber
i see
kind wing
Really good at opening Bulwarks
Sometimes blows up Crushers too
Kind of funny when I see Crushers flop around after a burst
scarlet timber
should i pair it with deimos or illisi?
vestal rose
its real good at turning a compact horde into a spread out horde
olive ember
its real good at turning a compact horde into a spread out horde
That too kek
scarlet timber
i thought its good at horde clear?
kind wing
Yeah unfortunately improper Trauma handling makes a horde more annoying to handle
olive ember
It’s decent but you gotta know how
vestal rose
i thought its good at horde clear?
yeah, gets em clear of the frontline where they belong lmao
vestal rose
wow i can't type
kind wing
For Blessings, I think only good ones for Trauma is definitely Warp Flurry and... something else
Was it just the Crit Chance at high Peril?
kind wing
I do 311211 but you should probably do 311212 instead
Obviously that's specc'ing into high damage though
Maybe 321212 might be better...
scarlet timber
rending?
kind wing
Eh doubt Rending is needed
olive ember
Nah warp unleashed is pretty much BiS now
scarlet timber
maybe?
late yew
I do 311211 but you should probably do 311212 instead
why use that ult upgrade, it seems to be the worst?
kind wing
Ascendant Blaze DoT helps
olive ember
No reason to run resist with how fast you quell
kind wing
Although with DoT nerfs it might not be too worth running like before
olive ember
Not worth on trauma
kind wing
You could also just run Kinetic Barrage to pair with Trauma Staff, quickly dispatch Elites
autumn smelt
dude vet chat is crazy
kind wing
I advocate running anything you want as long as you know how to handle yourself during a tense situation and aren't being completely braindead
Like that Psyker with Purg Staff build blowing himself up 5+ times in a single run
In a row
While having only three Wounds
And then calling us idiots at the end
olive ember
That’s me alright
Only wounds
Tactical explosions
Not purge staff tho
Trauma to blow up faster
kind wing
I don't even know how you can get yourself to blow up like that with Purg Staff
olive ember
If you charge at 100 I guess
vestal rose
low resist force sword
specialspecialspecialspecialboom
autumn smelt
Psword doomers?
its either the end of the world and they absolutely destroyed the only viable thing on the class
or it needs to be nerfed further because it makes the game too easy on damnation even if youre blind deaf and quadriplegic
blazing oak
Except surge staff
What is he saying about surge?
olive ember
its either the end of the world and they absolutely destroyed the only viable th...
Ah the two sides of the darktide community
olive ember
What is he saying about surge?
He hates it cuz it freezes the mutants in place and makes him whiff is thammer special
XD
kind wing
LOL
spice veldt
I also hate surge for that reason
kind wing
Cope
spice veldt
better to just DPS down the mutant in melee
blazing oak
Okay that reminds me of something
olive ember
I tell him to simply hold W
vestal rose
I've had one situation where a surge staff was helpful in the last hundred hours
autumn smelt
tho the sword does feel bad now bc of how weak it is uncharged, but its probably still best in slot
tho im more sad about the dot nerf not even 2 weeks after i get a banger purg staff
blazing oak
I swear the second I start stunning the bulwark, my teammates stop attacking it and stand around
vestal rose
and what wouda been more helpful was a brain burst or a force sword lol
spice veldt
though that surge issue is more of a player issue than a weapon issue
mfers not switching to their melee
leaden thunder
finally got warp flurry 4 for my void
blazing oak
and what wouda been more helpful was a brain burst or a force sword lol
I’m sorry but my brainburst isn’t stopping the crowd of crushers from collapsing on us fast enough
kind wing
Now you can fire more orbs per second
olive ember
finally got warp flurry 4 for my void
Congrats
spice veldt
the true metric by which weapons should be judgef by
vestal rose
I’m sorry but my brainburst isn’t stopping the crowd of crushers from collapsing...
A force sword does that nearly as well, is the thing :s
kinetic barrage woulda been more helpful
even a shredder, y'know
spice veldt
bullets aren't orbs, so guns have 0 OPS
shadow quail
tho the sword does feel bad now bc of how weak it is uncharged, but its probably...
They should have buffed the non charged damage a bit imo
spice veldt
the uncharged damage is already very good
olive ember
Surge is amazing on hi 5 or up
vestal rose
I just don't value surge
spice veldt
by extension of it having slaughterer
blazing oak
A force sword does that nearly as well, is the thing :s
kinetic barrage woulda b...
Right. Handles the bulwark groups as well and the shock gauntlet special rush
vestal rose
I do not want a surge on hi 5 :C
like I get that it's fun, and I've never complained to anyone in game
i just don't see value in it almost ever
blazing oak
It’s an enabler weapon, not a do it yourself weapon
vestal rose
use it if it makes you happy
autumn smelt
They should have buffed the non charged damage a bit imo
yea
in the damnation meatgrinder it took 3 lights to the head to kill a non-elite gunner, 2 with 5x slaughterer, 2 heavies and 1 with 5x
vale nacelle
What’s the point
Dunno, being able to hit entire groups of gunners behind walls/cover, in addition to its other functions/benefits, sells it for me.
spice veldt
the power swords also have their push attacks with unusually high single-target damaage
shadow quail
yea
in the damnation meatgrinder it took 3 lights to the head to kill a non-elit...
I think it's pretty mid now without cycler, with it, one of the best weapons still.
autumn smelt
yea
in the damnation meatgrinder it took 3 lights to the head to kill a non-elit...
meanwhile my deimos sword one taps them to the head regardless of blessings or direction of attack
leaden thunder
the single target weapon does good single target
spice veldt
though deimos is a single-target weapon by design and the power sword is a hordeclear
blazing oak
Taking people out of cover is nice, but I personally use surge because I enjoy helping my team by making it easier for them
spice veldt
the power sword also has 7.5 cleave on its heavies and access to slaughterer
spice veldt
worse minimum cleave damage than illisi heavies, but it's not like they nerfed the damage of the special
autumn smelt
dismantle all your power swords now
autumn smelt
do it they nerfed it once you have to
kind wing
Useless
spice veldt
mfs when the special is actually special and not something to be used all the time
kind wing
xd
spice veldt
though it's still the best thing to use when you have the space to get it off
autumn smelt
though it's still the best thing to use when you have the space to get it off
the main struggle for me is that i normally only pull it out when i am no longer able to fight using my gun
spice veldt
worse than the illisi because it doesn't have as high as a weakspot multiplier, but still pretty decent
kind wing
Because we have none
shadow quail
still top tier with cycler
spice veldt
idk just buff the base damage or minimum cleave damage
olive ember
Considering the claw is competing with the antax and psword on vet, hsword on zealot, and illisi on psyker
They’d have to like make it op to compete
autumn smelt
meaning im unlikely to have the time in the first place, so even if i do get it off, ill be back to tickling them due to only 1 swing cuz fuck melk fucking bitch wont give me the blessings i want
olive ember
Fair
spice veldt
because it is quite worse than our current class weapons by a marrrgin
kind wing
Devil's Claw's parry should also get some sort of boost
spice veldt
i'm not a zealot so they can go screw themselves
kind wing
Poor thing barely gets any use
olive ember
i'm not a zealot so they can go screw themselves
Lmao but they are constantly screwing us tho
Look at the flamer nerfs
spice veldt
they can be screwed even harder though
I shall not rest until the zealot population is minced to zero
well flamer's still fine innit
just kills flak enemies a little slower with a little more emphasis on ammo economy
the burn ticks aren't going to go anywhere as long as you maintain them with the occasional LMB
autumn smelt
Poor thing barely gets any use
when leveling my pskyer i was using the devils claw and i though "what if you can parry captain attacks??"
i stopped wondering as my teammate ran over to pick me up off the ground
spice veldt
when leveling my pskyer i was using the devils claw and i though "what if you ca...
yeah, the club captain has overheads and the sword captain has fast flurries or that wide unblockable
i mean, psykers aren't screwed that hard either
autumn smelt
spice veldt
just swap to another weapon and let the dot do its job on elites
olive ember
.> but my damage
olive ember
Not enough for AB to kill scab bruisers and stalkers last I checked
Not without warp unleashed atleast
spice veldt
though enough to weaken them to one-shot range
olive ember
And the damage against gunners are just pitiful cuz apparently dreg gunners count as scab armored
spice veldt
dodge-slide into their dms and regen toughness by one-shotting them with melee
yeah, dreg gunners/shotgunners have a base armour type of flak
olive ember
It’s dumb smh
spice veldt
psykers have no particular penalty for dodge-sliding because the blaze force swords have infinite dodges
spice veldt
sssssslurp
no idea; it should still be pretty good against them I assume
prob just because of their 900/1100 hp
olive ember
sigh
kind wing
Once you get used to running Power Maul on Zealot and not killing everything outright
olive ember
After pistol and surge staff kek
spice veldt
same; I thought they nerfed the illisi with the "special stops when hitting an elite", but I think the person writing the patch notes got it confused
olive ember
I run the obscures FS so yeah
olive ember
same; I thought they nerfed the illisi with the "special stops when hitting an e...
I think it’s a baseline thing
spice veldt
I'm pretty sure they just fixed the block-cancel bug on illisi/power swords
olive ember
Only weapon which got affected is ironhelm
kind wing
Love Ironhelm
olive ember
Cuz it has an actual cleave value
kind wing
Uniron(helm)ically
spice veldt
so it was just for the ironhelm basically or other sticky special weapons
gilded viper
I’m pretty sure eviscerator as well
olive ember
Basically since psword and illisi empowered get like bullshit cleave
kind wing
Ironhelm stun duration got reduced too so that's even nicer
gilded viper
Sure, but it does still has the ability to cleave through elites
leaden thunder
that thrust isn't the way to go on it
olive ember
and the other Fs and hammer don’t have cleave
leaden thunder
but I won't say that in zealot chat
spice veldt
but I won't say that in zealot chat
should I out you in zealot chat 🤔
olive ember
Never touching it kek
autumn smelt
sticky melees now actually stop and rip into elites now
kind wing
that thrust isn't the way to go on it
I think Thrust is still worth on Ironhelm however Headtaker might be easier to run with it in theory
olive ember
What would you take instead?
leaden thunder
I think
olive ember
Headtaker?
kind wing
Oh Skullcrusher?
olive ember
What does skull crusher do?