And Power Cycler is really painful thing to get 🙂
#psyker-class
idle bay
ember sentinel
I think vet is just in line with other classes now which is fine
Power cycler being easier to get wouldnt be awful tho
ember sentinel
Zealot might be where psyker used to be now
light quail
nah zealot is fine
ember sentinel
Although TH might be good and heavy sword is nice
light quail
flamer was the only problem because it was too good
light quail
(mainly because bugs and Chastise)
now flamer is reigned in, I'd say zelly is in a good spot
all it needs is a few more weapon buffs (evis in particular could use a little more)
and perfect
still hearth
I think vet is just in line with other classes now which is fine
No lol
steel flame
vet chat is in shambles
still hearth
Confirmed Kill + Unwavering is still broken
cloud sequoia
well they still can sweep the map with well aimed bolter
ember sentinel
Confirmed Kill + Unwavering is still broken
True although i mind it less now
still hearth
Sure at least they don't get to have the strongest melee option
Oh wait
They still get to have one of the best melees
For no effort
steel flame
they dont even have to manage peril
cloud sequoia
psword got a shit dodge tho
light quail
thankfully
if a vet starts buzzing im just gonna GTFO
cloud sequoia
meanwhile ogryn strong this patch
ember sentinel
Psword defense bad but it just killed everything before it mattered before
still hearth
Psword
ember sentinel
Is it still that good without pc?
still hearth
Yes
light quail
its a psword, thing still hits like an 18 wheeler
still hearth
It's just an Illisi with a bit less dodges
It actually has more base damage and cleave
ember sentinel
But no peril build
ember sentinel
I can agree
light quail
tbh just leave vet chat to mald and make negative steam reviews
not worth wasting your time on em
summer prairie
Illisi has nicer heavies without activation though
still hearth
nah ilisi is better now
Without blessings the difference is tiny
The dodges are nice though
But Illisi with blessings will beat Psword
Imo
autumn moth
feed me ego on sharpshitter tears while running around with infinite dodgeslides
still hearth
People just acting like Psword is now bad
light quail
sharpshooter tears
now with 20% extra cadian rage!
primal plume
sharpshitter sounds painful
still hearth
It's still an S tier melee
cloud sequoia
Now vet can learn how to manage power heavy instead spamming 2 button
idle bay
Now vet can learn how to manage power heavy instead spamming 2 button<:KEKW_ogry...
It's slightly bigger that that - they have to learn how to melee from scratch:)
Especially blocking and dodging
And find out about melee audio cues eventually
light quail
playing zealot made me respect how much better melee feels in darktide vs vermintide
cyan notch
cuz its easier
light quail
vt is still great dont get me wrong
but the feedback from darktide is the dealmaker
every hit feels so chunky
when I hit a mf with a thunderhammer, it feels like I just gave them some WWE shit with the steel chair
steel flame
hit detection from enemies is also alot better vs darktide
they could hit you from miles away in VT, its so much better in darktide
light quail
never in vt did I have that feeling that I UTTERLY fucked someone up like I have in darktide
light quail
dedicated servers :)
cyan notch
ironically there are a lot more hit reg problems in dt than i ever encountered in vt2
light quail
vt2 is peer 2 peer iirc
light quail
you ever want to see what I mean (talking about utterly fucking something), throw a bomb at a vt2 monster and then hit a dt monster with BOX
ornate hamlet
the hitreg in darktide is complete ass at times
summer prairie
The patch notes say the surgical stack time varies between 0.25 and 0.5s based on the weapon, but looks like they are all 0.25 or 0.35 per stack
cloud sequoia
At least its not crusher 
ornate hamlet
look at this
light quail
the hitreg in darktide is complete ass at times
I notice laspistol has a tendency to have non dmging shots
cloud sequoia
The patch notes say the surgical stack time varies between 0.25 and 0.5s based o...
Maybe ogryn kickback
ornate hamlet
buff laspistol
cyan notch
look at this
yea its garbage never in vt2 have i ever gotten this shit
light quail
yeah laspistol hitreg need a look at
cyan notch
with melee too you can get ghost hits
ornate hamlet
i think i got a clip of it happening in melee too
cloud sequoia
Do QQ macro laspistol
ornate hamlet
or not
tepid umbra
What are some good secondary weapons for Psyker?
ornate hamlet
laspistol laspistol laspistol
ignore the video above, it was engineered by tzeench
hybrid solstice
What are some good secondary weapons for Psyker?
By secondary weapon do you mean ranged weapon?
tepid umbra
By secondary weapon do you mean ranged weapon?
Yeah, for example what staffs are good, and what guns
hybrid solstice
Yeah, for example what staffs are good, and what guns
The "best" staves right now are probably purgatus and trauma, as for guns uhh most psykers opt to use a staff but i hear the autopistol is pretty alright for psyker
delicate stratus
Autopistol has this wacky interaction with fire
and pinning fire
The gun itself is also pretty decent
devout belfry
I'll never stop using surge.
summer prairie
@near wyvern: Did you test if deflector bcr works with ranged attacks? It only modifies ranged block cost
still hearth
The only reason its insane is the 150% power buffs.
devout belfry
But post flamer nerf purge looking nice.
hybrid solstice
keep in mind psykers dont really have any real synergies or anything with guns except for the occasional psychic flaying proc
still hearth
keep in mind psykers dont really have any real synergies or anything with guns e...
+34% damage to guns is pretty good.
Especially when you have a +150% power blessing multiplying that
devout belfry
Then you lose out on the force weapon passives.
hybrid solstice
+34% damage to guns is pretty good.
Yes but it's also worse than 50%
devout belfry
If it ain't a breakpoint it ain't a bake point.
summer prairie
realistically if you are using your gun a lot you aren't going to be at high peril most of the time
unless you obsessively switch to your low WR illisi every 5 seconds
hybrid solstice
Oh no
I mean jest all you want, you're just going to be a worse vet
And that's a fact
still hearth
Except that Veteran's Volley Fire can (theoretically) run out
devout belfry
I mean jest all you want, you're just going to be a worse vet
As is tradition.
still hearth
And doesn't add to melee
hybrid solstice
which is fine and doable
still hearth
But Veteran is still just broken so sure.
But just because you pick a staff doesn't mean that's better
hybrid solstice
And doesn't add to melee
this would be a point to make if psword didnt exist
strange wigeon
wait the flame vs flak nerf didn't touch soulblaze right?
devout belfry
I want a hitscan staff lol
still hearth
Illisi is just a psword for Psyker
Which you get a damage buff too
And chains into peril toughness recovery
Like yeah Psword needs 10 more nerfs
But if you gave Psword to Psyker
OH WAIT YOU ALREADY HAVE IT
devout belfry
Hey we need it.
light quail
Like yeah Psword needs 10 more nerfs
vet chat would flay you if they saw this
summer prairie
give powersword heat management and we'll call it even
summer prairie
Due to the flak dmg change? I didn't notice much difference
6 stacks still kills them
hybrid solstice
OH WAIT YOU ALREADY HAVE IT
i mean it's great but let's not pretend they are the same weapon
summer prairie
the non-elites
devout belfry
Soulblaze kind of sucks now.
Was it ever good?
safe crystal
i mean it's great but let's not pretend they are the same weapon
They quite literally are now.
devout belfry
Magic swords are cooler than science swords
hybrid solstice
They quite literally are now.
the special lasts a single swing
lethal folio
Wiping all gunners,shotgunners,maulers and scab ragers within 30m was good.
summer prairie
one full charge still kills maulers
safe crystal
the special lasts a single swing
So does a PS if it has no cycler
devout belfry
You guys can afford cyclers?
still hearth
People acting like charging is some insane
Impossible thing
It's like a 0.5s
I used a non Cycler Psword
devout belfry
And you can dash during it lol
hybrid solstice
So does a PS if it has no cycler
Factually untrue
safe crystal
Vet chat is coping so hard right now over it, they just have to get used to it
Uh
Did you read the patch notes?
still hearth
Factually untrue
They literally just nerfed it to work that way
devout belfry
Flamer fans also losing it.
hybrid solstice
They literally just nerfed it to work that way
oh then nvm
strange wigeon
the killing of flame DoTs has begun, End times 😦
summer prairie
if you run WU and flak on your purg it's not in a much different place than when WU didn't affect it
devout belfry
Lol, psyker chat is so reasonable.
light quail
Flamer fans also losing it.
crutch users complaining about their crutches being broke 
nobody remembers funny R6 man
devout belfry
crutch users complaining about their crutches being broke <:KEKW:639198532804411...
More reason to hammer time.
light quail
"The more crutches you have, the more it hurts when they're kicked out from under you."
devout belfry
But I only get on enough for my psyker weeklies and hop off lol
hybrid solstice
Point is you can make gun psyker work but at the end of the day are not doing something with a gun a vet isnt doing better
light quail
Point is you can make gun psyker work but at the end of the day are not doing so...
i only do gunpsyker to larp lmao
that and its fun
obtuse moth
vets cant brainburst snipers or shields or crushers
safe crystal
Dealing with armour from range
light quail
laspistol duelsword ftw
hybrid solstice
that and its fun
all cool reasons
light quail
psykommisar
devout belfry
Dual wield when?
hybrid solstice
it's just worth knowing if you are new is all
obtuse moth
they also cant stack WU and warp charges
summer prairie
https://streamable.com/kk1381 granted this is an ideal scenario
devout belfry
A psyker duelist would be cool. Some kind of psychic bullets, foresight, or reload magic.
hybrid solstice
i like to think one of the future psyker careers will have a reason to prefer guns
light quail
A psyker duelist would be cool. Some kind of psychic bullets, foresight, or relo...
give em trenchcoats and shit
proper highwayman looking shit
devout belfry
They got rapiers for a reason right?
light quail
psychic throwing knives/darts that lead all bullets to them
lethal folio
It's called gunslinger for a reason.
light quail
and of course, dual wielding
light quail
yknow I wonder if there's a traditional kind of pistol in 40K?
something like a 1911 or usp
or if we're stuck with the minecraft mod looking stuff
inland sand
so how nerfed is the Purgatus staff now?
hybrid solstice
they nerfed it?
bro wtf how long has it been since i last played, surely only a day or two ago...
hybrid solstice
oh
hybrid solstice
I see
still hearth
So really only AB was affected
hybrid solstice
Could be worse
cold geode
we could be vets
summer prairie
you may want to switch to your melee for better power buffs now when you AB ult
hybrid solstice
true, true
summer prairie
if you want to kill scab elites faster
cyan notch
or raise peril
lethal folio
Blaze, and wrack, and blazing spirit.
summer prairie
true
lethal folio
and infernus.
summer prairie
wrack and ruin is admittedly quite anemic now vs flak elites
rocky cedar
Fire dot nerfs outside flamer were unwarranted but hopefully they'll be slowly rectified over time
still hearth
No
Burn does too much damage for no effort already
It should've been reduced more
ornate hamlet
Decent ones
near wyvern
cause it was clearly a bug
west galleon
Smh another psyop victim
It was clearly a feature that then got rebranded as a "bug" to fool the simple minded sheeple that they knew would regurgitate that.
vagrant furnace
I dont see why flamer are a problem in a game were the ai director tries to screw players so many times with « unfair » shit, i mean the game can be really tedious at times if you dont bring any flamer
vestal raven
flame staff to the rescue
vagrant furnace
I love a challenge as long as its fair
ornate hamlet
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1-Rl5C14AQQ How I feel playing Pyro Psy
uneven drift
Anime
safe crystal
I dont see why flamer are a problem in a game were the ai director tries to scre...
When something overshadows literally everything else on both melee and ranged categories for dealing with everything in the game, that thing is a problem. Horde? Flame em. Mixed horde? Flame em. Bonbon or plogryn? Flame em. Crusher? Flame em and run at them menacingly so they lose their armour. The flamer is still okay, the ammo nerf was probably too much, but everything else was justified. It just wont be the 'solve every problem with this one cool trick!' weapon anymore
west galleon
Lemme guess, underdog mc that people dislike/hate for some bs reason that is either not really true or over exaggerated or hes just some nobody.
Then unlocks some cheat power or "true potential" etc.
uneven drift
Go watch it. It's actually good
How would you compensate me if it's not good?
lethal folio
As it happens, flamers are still the best at doing that.
ornate hamlet
How would you compensate me if it's not good?
I'll butt touch you
uneven drift
ornate hamlet
And maybe carry you through a 5
summer prairie
flamer still does infinite damage, just a smaller infinite
frosty badger
Trust me, Eminence in Shadow
Eminence if the Shadows is great. But only if you like the power fantasy of an insainly OP MC
vagrant furnace
The problem is 80% of the weapon types in this game are kinda bad
cyan notch
iono bout those numbers there chief
fallow meadow
Tried illisi. Don't understand the strength of it. My Mk5 axe feels much better.
safe crystal
Thats exaggerated. Psykers, for example, all the staves are decent, you have access to shredder, XII and headhunters, las pistol, the 3 FS are good, axes are good. Thats roughly half of what we have
summer prairie
I agree Antax "feels" better and is much safer to use, but have you looked at the cleave damage spreads
visual gorge
just as a question how does a fire psyker perg (asendent blaze) stack up to a flamer in your opinions? because while flamer definitely is a faster and stronger killer I always felt like perg and blaze blast (when used right) overshadowed it due to range and no ammo concerns (not counting speicals and elites which flamer was definitely better for)
twilit flicker
Psyker buffs
They nerfed the power swords and zealot flamer lmao
cyan notch
they nerfed soulblaze too
uneven drift
illisi still goes through all elites?
safe crystal
just as a question how does a fire psyker perg (asendent blaze) stack up to a fl...
Soul blaze was always weaker than regular flames. It complements purgatus builds by giving us a reach to 30m, but it needs either 6 warp charges, or a fast way to get peril to gain power by switching to unstable power weapons, or with the 2nd row talent giving us extra damage the higher our peril
twilit flicker
No problem hehe, ahhh. Sorry Vet ans Zealots associates, just making light of it all.
cyan notch
illisi still goes through all elites?
yes
fallow meadow
Psyker is already weak. Vet and zealot got nerf. Ogg take all the cake.
visual gorge
Soul blaze was always weaker than regular flames. It complements purgatus builds...
Fair enough
safe crystal
Nah, we havent been weak for a while
forest coral
zealot flamethrower nerf is more like a slap on wrist, its still very strong
fallow meadow
I won't say psyker is strong in the four.
frosty badger
zealot flamethrower nerf is more like a slap on wrist, its still very strong
They didn't need to nerf the ammo capacity for it... That was OTT
visual gorge
Psyker is already weak. Vet and zealot got nerf. Ogg take all the cake.
Not really I already feel psyker is to strong to be honest I don't really want to see it buffed so much as different options would be nice instead like they have been doing with the force swords.
fringe tangle
Nuuu they removed the deflector feature 😦
We should all get on the forums and ask them to make deflector a base feature.
west galleon
Or an actual feat, dunno
forest coral
im slightly sadge that we dont have inherent deflectors anymore
fringe tangle
west galleon
I just think thats something that psykers would be able to do if trained
forest coral
but bug is bug i guess 
yeah
it kinda makes no sense to havethat default animation
safe crystal
Vets at it again after their crutch got nerfed
fringe tangle
I made a thread in the feedback forum
safe crystal
Damn, they gotta learn how to melee now
fringe tangle
Damn, they gotta learn how to melee now
lol
west galleon
it kinda makes no sense to havethat default animation
That too, its like false advertising
cyan notch
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/make-deflector-a-base-feature-of-forceswords/...
why not just put deflector on if you want it
river sand
are mod still working or do we need do wait for new .bat again ?
summer prairie
they work
river sand
hmmm guess i need to put deflector on my deimos now, i kinda got used to have it ^^
fringe tangle
why not just put deflector on if you want it
Well it doesn't make sense as a blessing anyway. Psykers can do it or they can't.
Also it would make the forceswords more interesting if they had it built-in. Instead of being a sorta kinda psyker powersword.
cyan notch
force swords already have very unique things like infinite dodge 360 push and ultra force push
snow panther
yeh it really feels like forceswords should have it by default
river sand
if they had it by default nobody would use the other weapons
cyan notch
the lore whatever argument is lame either u can hit 1 poxwalker or u can hit infinite poxwalkers
hoary badge
I'd be very happy if they removed the force field vfx for non deflectors
cyan notch
u can remove it with a mod
hoary badge
I remember disliking it for visibility reasons when first running it
fringe tangle
I'd be very happy if they removed the force field vfx for non deflectors
Yeah doesn't really make sense to have the vfx if you can't block shots.
ornate hamlet
found a reason to not use mk5, surprisingly
fringe tangle
also confusing if you run different FS and try to block but get hit because it's the wrong FS.
hoary badge
u can remove it with a mod
Still think be a nice minor detail if it was an official distinction
ornate hamlet
the first light has a really shitty angle
twilit veldt
sadge
ornate hamlet
now im torn, because the stabs from the mk4 have an ass-backwards hitbox
fringe tangle
found a reason to not use mk5, surprisingly
I'm not even sure why only Psykers get sabers, wouldn't that work better on Zealot? Kind of like the combat knife.
ornate hamlet
cyan notch
now im torn, because the stabs from the mk4 have an ass-backwards hitbox
small price to pay for mkv's massively better heavies
ornate hamlet
i figured vets would be the one to get sabers, considering these look like military sabers and the only actual military is veteran
honestly
give me mk4s lights and mk5s heavies and delete the rest of the things concerning duel swords
the light loop on 4 is so good
fringe tangle
I hope they copy pasta salty's rapier over here sometime. Give it to zealot.
fringe tangle
that would be noice.
hoary badge
Zealot's whole schtick is heavy 2h weapons tho
ornate hamlet
also i just realized mk4 has a cleave stat that mk5 doesnt
and mk5 has half of the defence stat on the mobility one as well
hoary badge
At least according to class creation
fringe tangle
Zealot's whole schtick is heavy 2h weapons tho
I quite enjoy the londoner RP with the knoif though
idle bay
A Combat Fork for Zealot!
ornate hamlet
its like they started making the weapon, forgot about it halfway through, the boss told them to pack the work and they just grabbed whatever and pushed into the game
idle bay
And don't forget The Ultimate Melee Weapon
fringe tangle
And don't forget The Ultimate Melee Weapon
John Wicktide
hoary badge
A Combat Fork for Zealot!
BBQ 'eretic cookout loadout with the flamer
idle bay
BBQ 'eretic cookout loadout with the flamer
I totally nailed the idea 😉
hoary badge
know what
idle bay
John Wicktide
Wait... totaly forgot. No pencils around in 40k...
The Ultimate Melee Weapon of 40k
hoary badge
Slap some emperor seals on a disembodied Mutie arm and call it a greatclub
Shouties are probably unhinged enough to do that
ornate hamlet
my mk4 has 73% cleave damage, right
and the mk5 doesnt have the stat
so i tested the cleave
still socket
is there a mod to burst Balls instead of Brains?
blazing oak
Sometimes I wish Path of Trust played instead of last man standing
ornate hamlet
literally fucking useless stat
blazing oak
Would make clutches more fun
viral solstice
Fixed issue where Illisi Mk V Blaze Force Sword weapon special attack did not activate the Psykinetic feat ‘Warp Absorption’ correctly.
lmao
really???
cyan notch
yea it didnt
viral solstice
i thought this was a deliberate balance decision
no i know it didnt
but i thought it was deliberate
blazing oak
So what does the obscurus have that the Deimos didn’t do better in?
viral solstice
because the thing fuckin kills infinite poxwalkers and gets melee regen
cyan notch
doesnt really make sense to have different behaviour
idle bay
We still can rub the Illis sword after patch?
viral solstice
u cant apply that standard
vestal raven
We still can rub the Illis sword after patch?
yes rub away
blazing oak
I am convinced Tzeentch has a cult in FS
viral solstice
when i cleave thru somebodies head on the rashad into their torso
they take no headshot damage
welcome to the shark
zone
blazing oak
Obscurus vs Deimos?
halcyon creek
ISTR that Fatshark didn’t actually plan for the blue marks of guns to be the fast fire-rate version
viral solstice
yes
halcyon creek
It just worked out that way… until they randomly made the stubbers
idle bay
@near wyvern is there a reason to Obscurus being used over Illis or Deimos?
viral solstice
or a few designers who did it just to be nice but they had no high level plan
halcyon creek
Turbo
hybrid solstice
<@345531303942291457> is there a reason to Obscurus being used over Illis or De...
like literally none atm
idle bay
Obscurus need to be changed into FS with special attack that counts as BB for all feats and passives.
near wyvern
<@345531303942291457> is there a reason to Obscurus being used over Illis or De...
no
the moveset sucks for single target and sucks for horde
illisi is good at horde, decent at single
deimos is good at single, decent at horde
icy hare
damage is the dump stat on purg, right?
near wyvern
quell speed
icy hare
ah ok cool cheers
near wyvern
let's give another meme a spin
near wyvern
LMB
vestal raven
oh
near wyvern
::::DDDD
near wyvern
gonna spam it with the quell cancel macro
and RMB is just gonna be for the occasional nade
and then I have slaugherer exorcist illisi on the melee
for the double meme
vestal raven
when ur feelin a lil funny
near wyvern
I just face tanked a daemon host at damnation hi hunting grounds using the 9 stam loadout
it was lulz
summer prairie
the fact you can quell while dodging at faster than sprinting speed is quite goofy
or block
near wyvern
I just sat in the corner and face tanked it
better dps for team
quelled between the attacks
summer prairie
yes
strange wigeon
when i cleave thru somebodies head on the rashad into their torso
a whole class called skullcrusher
most of his weapons have torso priority
viral solstice
most of his weapons have torso priority
ye its just most dumb on a rashad because the heavy is
an overhead
so if u imagine what is physically happening its literally violating the melee model they set up
strange wigeon
I'm still confused why they decided to even put in shit like this
I can understand the visual reason for eviscerator and ogryn knives because then they will have lots of videos of players sawing/chopping things in half
but even that's incredibly awful
ornate hamlet
jesus christ, do i even keep this thing
i dont think i can magdump it without it kicking to the moon
safe crystal
Lasguns have barely any recoil
ornate hamlet
might be me getting suppressed last match on a 50-ish stab one then 
west galleon
PENANCES
Why do i feel like the damn catholic church wouldnt let me suffer like FS is with these penances
safe crystal
Try adding slightly longer delay on the macro? Do we know the specifics on how the surge blessing works, as in when does it check if the attack is a critical strike in the code?
near wyvern
it seems to check when you hit and then it will play the attack animation again
if you quell cancel the attack animation it will not have time to play
I ugess I could try to increase the delay but then I loose my machine gun LMB
mortal crest
Why do i feel like the damn catholic church wouldnt let me suffer like FS is wit...
Real shit
rare furnace
So now my illisi stacks on all elites?
But my 4th attack does more dmg or less we don’t know if fix was down or up haha
safe crystal
The 4th light always used 50% stat rolls, no matter what your weapons actual rolls were
Now it uses whatever your weapon actually has on it
rose dagger
Do crits with purgatus still apply two stacks of soul blaze, patch notes weren't very descriptive
safe crystal
Yes
ornate hamlet
rannick watching me, his most professional psyker, ask to use the psykhanium to draw a penis with the healing crates
twilit veldt
i need better deflector, but even a T2 deflector is better than the shitty soulblaze on crit
after the patch, i cant live without the ability to block ranged fire on psyker, its just too useful
leaden thunder
how important are perks on the voidstaff?
olive ember
When they say “force sword specials now stop on elites” surely that doesn’t mean the illisi right?
leaden thunder
it doesn't stop on them as far as I could tell
tbh I don't think either the deimos or obscurus could over cleave
leaden thunder
it was probably just a blanket change to all specials that act that way
forest coral
Did they fix deimos’s weird injection animation on the special
Or is it still wonky as hell
olive ember
No clue I never used the deimos kek
supple skiff
ah they patched innate deflector, can't have shit in tertium
white cedar
how does it work 🤔
blazing oak
What weapon
blazing oak
Maybe it applies the brittleness after?
supple skiff
sweet terra they nerfed power swords,
white cedar
I spam it multiple times and nothing change
supple skiff
I'm afraid to keep reading
undone shoal
Trauma right click is 100% AP, so that blessing is for team support
Try a melee weapon before and after and you'll see the damage increase
shadow quail
sweet terra they nerfed power swords,
They gutted it
worthy star
Do crits with purgatus still apply two stacks of soul blaze, patch notes weren't...
soul blaze is unique from the burn applied by staff
supple skiff
fuck they didn't hold back
shadow quail
lllisi is far better than a non cycler PS now
blazing oak
It’s not dead
supple skiff
I don't play zealot but flamers looks like it got bonked pretty hard as well
supple skiff
question is is whether that dot damage reduction to flak targets effects purg
celest hedge
Flamer is brought back to mortality
cyan portal
Feels like soulblaze took the nerf to flak, probably a bigger nerf to purga psykers than it was to flamer zealots..
cyan notch
question is is whether that dot damage reduction to flak targets effects purg
yes they said its for all burn
olive ember
Yeah people were saying that
cyan portal
so basically instead of fixing the janky interaction with zealot ult and flame ticks, they nerfed all dot dmg to flak instead, so dumb.
undone shoal
Guess they wanted to keep that interaction for other weapons
cyan portal
the real issue is that it stays up for 5 sec instead of being consumed by hitting like it does with melee.
supple skiff
never liked purge but I feel for ya'll
late yew
ok fuck that
blazing oak
Benefit of using niche weapons is that they don’t get nerfed
Hey does the notification for completing a Melk Mission play during missions anymore?
cyan portal
i mean its a nerf to widefire, ab, any other source of low stacks of soulblaze.
undone shoal
To be fair soul blaze was never good at low stacks
cyan portal
ends up hurting purga because you get less of the kills on the most common armor type which flows on to less wc and less slaughter buffs.
had to switch out of aura back to communion to keep stacks
ornate hamlet
Benefit of using niche weapons is that they don’t get nerfed
they dont get bloody fixed either
blazing oak
they dont get bloody fixed either <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
That’s fine they work good enough anyways
late yew
Do mods need to get updated?
ornate hamlet
you just need to run the bat file in your folder
cyan portal
need to rerun the bat but they seem to be working still
olive ember
Does 6 stacks AB still kill shooters?
blissful mural
ok fuck that
not so bad, that includes scrips too now
late yew
not so bad, that includes scrips too now
still fuck that
I would rather play dif 5 with sokme other quest
than lower diff for like 300 more milk
steel delta
Can someone tell me how to do malleus monstrorum?
blissful mural
ask kindly for your team to leave bosses alone- then get lucky
supple skiff
well some good news, it doesn't look like the whole stop on alt fire thing effects the illsi
steel delta
ask kindly for your team to leave bosses alone- then get lucky
they usually dont respond in chat if I ask anything
supple anvil
well some good news, it doesn't look like the whole stop on alt fire thing effec...
The w h a t
supple skiff
The w h a t
Weapon special attacks on activated weapons (Chain swords, Thunder hammers, Force swords, Chain axes) now always stop on Elites, Specials, Monsters, and Captain regardless of cleave.
supple anvil
Oh thank god I thought you meant they slowed your movement speed now
blissful mural
why is fatshark like this?
leaden thunder
the damage doesn't seem to be increase
truama already does 100% damage to most all targets, so brittlness doesn't really effect it, it's for buffing your allies and your melee
rigid sky
So is Purgatus shit now?
supple skiff
Oh thank god I thought you meant they slowed your movement speed now
well they did get rid of the small speed boost bug lol
cyan portal
it is still strong, still behind flamer though
blazing oak
Make Deimos a spear
supple skiff
Im a bit worried that the illsi not being effected is an oversight
leaden thunder
by?
olive ember
Can someone tell me how to do malleus monstrorum?
Get a premade in one of the LFG channels
And yeah
cyan portal
Weapon special attacks on activated weapons (Chain swords, Thunder hammers, Forc...
I think that change was because with a bit of power you'd cleave past those juicy targets without the special triggering. It is a buff
olive ember
it hasn't been touched
It has, dot changes affect ascendant blaze builds
leaden thunder
6 stacks still 1 shot shooters?
olive ember
A lot worse than flamer too, since the AB against shooters come to mind
Does it?
Thank fuck
cyan portal
yup 6 stack still lethal
leaden thunder
sadge
steel delta
Get a premade in one of the LFG channels
which channel? idk what nasa, emea, apac and microsoft means
leaden thunder
hmm with warp unleashed?
cyan portal
wildfire took the hit the hardest i think, with enough +power you could get those 4 stacks to do work on flak
olive ember
which channel? idk what nasa, emea, apac and microsoft means
What part of the world you are in
pale basalt
jeebus illissi is useless now, thanks FS taketh and giveth away
leaden thunder
huh
hearty birch
it's in the vox-lexicanum channel
leaden thunder
not even close
olive ember
jeebus illissi is useless now, thanks FS taketh and giveth away
Does it stop on elite?
steel delta
oh that explains it thank you!!
leaden thunder
it doesn't for me
pale basalt
one charge is enough to put it in the dustbin for me
olive ember
Yeah
hearty birch
oh that explains it thank you!!
I'm also looking to do the penance (also in EU), I have a lvl 30 ogryn maybe we can help each other
cyan portal
one charge is enough to put it in the dustbin for me
it only ever had one charge. are you a lost vet?
leaden thunder
blazing oak
Reviews are going full rage
blissful mural
they should
olive ember
Apparently they’ve already been review bombed
steel delta
I'm also looking to do the penance (also in EU), I have a lvl 30 ogryn maybe we ...
that would be awesome, i need a few levels on my ogryn to do the penance
or rather equip the shield
olive ember
Mfw I gotta explain to somehow how flak dot nerf hurts psyker rly hard
And their response is “it’s just flak lol”
hearty birch
that would be awesome, i need a few levels on my ogryn to do the penance
sent you a discord dm : )
olive ember
Like “just flak”
leaden thunder
Does it stop on elite?
i just tested it doesn't stop as far as I can tell
olive ember
Aye
olive ember
one charge is enough to put it in the dustbin for me
It’s always been one charge?
pale basalt
I swear I had two swings yesterday
blazing oak
Welp there goes the improvement on the review scores
olive ember
No it’s always been one charge for illisi
blazing oak
Dear the throne people really hate not having their wonder weapon
undone shoal
Powersword had 2 before
supple skiff
i just tested it doesn't stop as far as I can tell
only had it stop on ogryn enemies in the grinder
leaden thunder
they have enough hit mass that it should
but that's not due to the "stops on elites" thing
which afaik doesn't effect the illisi
supple skiff
I get that, but based on my reading of the patch notes it looks like they intended it to stop on smaller things, no?
leaden thunder
no
so I am gonna make an assumption
but, I am pretty sure that it is a blanket change to all single target weapon activations
even though like the chainsword couldn't cleave through things before on it's specail unless you had devastating strike
wait
olive ember
Also @leaden thunder does 6 stack burn still kill shooters
leaden thunder
I just realized they buffed dstrike
supple skiff
hmm you know what, they dont mention power swords in the list
olive ember
While you are there
undone shoal
I think it's to avoid edge cases where you might have a "ignore target hit mass" blessing - so means you'll never skip over an enemy with a weapon special when you wanted to kill them
late yew
How does upgrading of trinkets work
Does base pwoer matter for them as it does for wepaons?
leaden thunder
with warp unleashed
shadow quail
Last patch to this patch
idle bay
Last patch to this patch <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
What have happened on 1st of april ? 🙂
leaden thunder
lemme check without warp unleashed
whole oxide
Last patch to this patch <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
maybe, just maybe, they should've nerfed things iteratively over the last 6 months, instead of dropping it all in one go
shadow quail
What have happened on 1st of april ? 🙂
It's today(the bad reviews)
supple skiff
zelots and vets big mad
blazing oak
Picking an underwhelming weapon to main is actually a sound strategy because FatShark seems to be really cautious about over correcting and so usually does small buffs. Therefore, the weapon that will only get buff will most likely never be over buffed and get nerfed, therefore maximizing patch note enjoyment
idle bay
It's today(the bad reviews)
Ah.. so many Vets players and Zeralot player are unhappy with nerfs...
Goooooooood 🙂
rocky hedge
laughs in psyker
olive ember
Picking an underwhelming weapon to main is actually a sound strategy because Fat...
Lmao I ran force sword surge staff
I still do
blazing oak
Same
supple skiff
olive ember
Only been ups for me
idle bay
We have been nerfed since beta - and did not give a shat....
leaden thunder
While you are there
so with warp unleashed it one shots stalkers and shooters
without it one shots jsut shooter
olive ember
Without?
leaden thunder
(scab)
olive ember
Bruh
idle bay
Except me - i kept whining on reddit and forums 🙂
olive ember
That’s so dumb
supple skiff
the subreddit must be a dumpster fire atm
olive ember
I assume we just don’t even look at shotgunners and gunners then
leaden thunder
so if you get a warp charge or have warp unleashed it should be able to 1 shot both
let me see how it effects gunners/shotgunners
blazing oak
Only been ups for me
I’ve gone pretty far into this strategy. I main shotgun and rashad axe on vet, Chainaxe on zealot
Or recon on vet
leaden thunder
it def didn't one shot dreg gunner I don't think
feral verge
now with the flak DOT nerfs, i wonder if i should get rid of crit chance, for flak dmg, on my godroll purga
leaden thunder
I don't think it 1 shot scab ones
olive ember
Did it not?
leaden thunder
never tested it
olive ember
But scabs had less health then dregs
leaden thunder
it shouldn't? since they halved it
rocky hedge
now with the flak DOT nerfs, i wonder if i should get rid of crit chance, for fl...
sweeeettt staffff 😮
leaden thunder
and it deals 1/3rd now
olive ember
P sure it could one shot up to ragers pre patch with warp unleashed in effect
leaden thunder
ah maybe with warp unleashed it could
supple skiff
with warp absorb fixed on the illsi now I may try that instead on quietude for a couple runs
feral verge
sweeeettt staffff 😮
thanks. it fucks. i haven't used any other staff for like 2 months lmao
leaden thunder
but no warp unleash it shouldn't have been able to one shot either gunner pre patch
rocky hedge
thanks. it fucks. i haven't used any other staff for like 2 months lmao
LMAO I Wouldn't either!!
leaden thunder
just doing some quick maff and doubling how much it does now
I also don't have flak on my weapon
undone shoal
To be honest I think it's kinda fine - they're obviously wanting to remove or lower the amount of "clear the map instantly on your own" weapons and abilities
leaden thunder
if you have flak on your weapon
I think it still 1 shots stalkers with no warp unleashed
olive ember
Ugh such a pain
leaden thunder
yep
it does
as far as I can tell any sort of damage boost will let you 1 shot scab stalkers with 6 stacks
olive ember
I hate finicky bullshit tho
late yew
I don't get why people say purg is dead lol
worn bolt
The heretics fear the raw power of Karl
cyan portal
It isn't dead, it is nerfed though.
feral verge
@near wyvern with the nerfs to flak DOT, is it worth considering getting rid of crit chance for flak dmg on purga? i think ideally i'd have both, but unfortunately, i have unarmored dmg locked on my purga
olive ember
I don’t get why you say it’s “just flak” when literally everyone ran +flak and +maniac
olive ember
<@345531303942291457> with the nerfs to flak DOT, is it worth considering gettin...
Almost certainly tbh
late yew
I don’t get why you say it’s “just flak” when literally everyone ran +flak and +...
because purg supposed to be specailised anti-horde weapon
olive ember
Or drop maniac for flak
worn bolt
true, also is purg staff the fire one? ive only ever used shock and wanted to swap to either the fire one of trauma soon
olive ember
because purg supposed to be specailised anti-horde weapon
Half the horde is fucking flak
late yew
You want anti-flak, take surge
olive ember
Shooters all flak
still hearth
<@345531303942291457> with the nerfs to flak DOT, is it worth considering gettin...
No.
olive ember
Bruisers all flak
still hearth
It still does too much damage overall
olive ember
Tf are you saying
late yew
Half the horde is fucking flak
and so fuckn what
olive ember
.>
late yew
they still die
cyan portal
Halving our dot ticks against the most common threatening enemies is a serious nerf.
olive ember
They rly don’t
olive ember
It really didn’t
olive ember
The purge staff was a balanced flamer and it got hit with nerfs
still hearth
To kill an infinite horde
late yew
Were you people vet mains you probably would defend power sword
feral verge
People who say Purg was hurt are crazy
it's a hurt to purga/AB, but they're still OP
olive ember
Yeah one full charge of pointing at one enemy for 5 seconds
feral verge
you're still gonna delete the majority of the map
late yew
yeah, it was so balanced that literally 9/10 psykers ran it
ornate hamlet
still hearth
Yeah one full charge of pointing at one enemy for 5 seconds
Almost like its not a single target weapon
olive ember
You know what else could delete an enemy with 5 seconds of pointing at an enemy?
still hearth
Almost like its power comes from ignoring enemy hit mass and spreading out a massive DoT
late yew
You know what else could delete an enemy with 5 seconds of pointing at an enemy?
Your stupidity?
olive ember
Lol sure man
still hearth
I mean do buff Purg
That will make me laugh
The most busted weapon in the game atm
feral verge
Well either way rip purge
DONT LISTEN TO THE MALICE GAMING PSYKER WITH THA UPRISING BORDER DONT LISTEN TO THE MALICE GAMING PSYKER WITH THA UPRISING BORDER DONT LISTEN TO THE MALICE GAMING PSYKER WITH THA UPRISING BORDER
olive ember
DONT LISTEN TO THE MALICE GAMING PSYKER WITH THA UPRISING BORDER DONT LISTEN TO ...
Lmao
.>
feral verge
wait is the 1 green skull player border for malice or uprising?
olive ember
Sedition
hearty turret
Trauma staff best staff 
feral verge
oh lmao
late yew
Meant to nerf the flamer and somehow hit psyker harder
please shut up
olive ember
Don't let your Veteran shine through
Purge was like on par with voidstrike and trauma
Now it’s worse
late yew
Purg was the most busted weapon in the game
still hearth
W h a t
olive ember
Dude who are you again?
still hearth
Purg was so much above the other staffs
olive ember
Lmao
still hearth
Its not even a fair comparison
olive ember
It rly wasn’t
feral verge
nah purga wasnt the most busted weapon
olive ember
It is
ornate hamlet
what if you guys
feral verge
most busted weapons were flamer and power sword
olive ember
Purge wasn’t that busted idk where tf that came from
ornate hamlet
question mark
cyan portal
pretty sure shredder with pinning and blaze is the most busted weapon tbh
olive ember
Literally everyone said all the staves were balanced and half this chat used trauma or voidstrike or even the fucking gun
feral verge
pretty sure shredder with pinning and blaze is the most busted weapon tbh
ahh true forgot that
gilded viper
it over 
gilded viper
my recon gun do 94 dot instead of 180 to maulers
hearty turret
If your wanting to use a gun on psyker just play veteran, Your gimping your team of ammo and playing worse than a vet would with your gun
still hearth
Literally everyone said all the staves were balanced and half this chat used tra...
Everyone who said that was wrong.
supple skiff
"I am.. prepaired to provide artificer services varlet, provided you remain civil"
olive ember
Lol sure
supple skiff
so they know crafting lotto is arse lol
ornate hamlet
If your wanting to use a gun on psyker just play veteran, Your gimping your team...
no
feral verge
i want them to buff surge. cuz i hate it, but think it'd be cool to use if it actually did damage.
ornate hamlet
gun psyker is legit good
cyan portal
purga kinda busted if you use unstable slaughterer fs to boost the ticks
olive ember
Well I don’t even use purge I’m just amazed how they can nerf psyker harder than the weapon they are actually trying to nerf
lethal folio
Vet has more bullets, but psyker has more damage.
gilded viper
If your wanting to use a gun on psyker just play veteran, Your gimping your team...
No
void mural
So, does this part of the patch notes mean that illi just got a huge buff to survivability? Every kill with the special attack should proc 10% toughness replenish?
"Fixed issue where Illisi Mk V Blaze Force Sword weapon special attack did not activate the Psykinetic feat ‘Warp Absorption’ correctly."
lethal folio
unless you are literally 100% volleyfire.
still hearth
Vet has more bullets, but psyker has more damage.
Vet can just ult 100% of the time
Easy
ornate hamlet
if people want to limit themselves to wonky projectile physics and fucking brain burst charge time to fight ranged enemies on psyker, the problem is theirs
hearty turret
No
You can play gun psyker on heresy and lower but if your bringing it on damnation your gonna be a deadweight.
gilded viper
Dude
ornate hamlet
i literally do that
cyan portal
assuming there is a vet on the team already, psyker with shredder is better than second vet.
lethal folio
Why do you think that?
lethal folio
Do you think guns are just worse than staves in all aspects?
gilded viper
I always play t5 with it and do fine, and wtf coming to me full blow toxic for saying I use gun psyker
pale basalt
You can play gun psyker on heresy and lower but if your bringing it on damnation...
lol I shoot straighter than most vets
still hearth
Do you think guns are just worse than staves in all aspects?
Yes they do.
hearty turret
I always play t5 with it and do fine, and wtf coming to me full blow toxic for s...
Sorry guess I've never played with a gun psyker who was good before 😏
still hearth
That's the only reasoning I've gotten from like 99% of people against gun Psykers.
worn bolt
so purge is the fire staff right? how much did the nerf hit it? never used it and hearing mixed results
gilded viper
Damn, free deflector was fun while it lasted
pale basalt
Don't care, I have things to grind and staff play gets boring
white cedar
Try a melee weapon before and after and you'll see the damage increase
cool
ornate hamlet
mans probably so fucking bad with the gun that he needs the vet ammo buffs and still begs people to pick staves so he can mash interact on each ammo tin
gilded viper
Sorry guess I've never played with a gun psyker who was good before 😏
Their skill issue i guess
olive ember
so purge is the fire staff right? how much did the nerf hit it? never used it an...
It’s half damage on anything wearing flak
Not good
worn bolt
rough, so essentially all the scabs?
olive ember
6 stack AB can’t even kill scab stalkers anymore
Unless you power boost with warp unleashed or wte
hearty turret
mans probably so fucking bad with the gun that he needs the vet ammo buffs and s...
Not a vet main, Powersword + bolter vets get the rope in my opinion
olive ember
It’s playable just doesn’t feel good kek
worn bolt
is trauma still decent?
olive ember
Yeah everything else unaffected
ornate hamlet
well, at least its just standard delusion then
gilded viper
Rip purge I guess
olive ember
Unless you are using blazing spirit
gilded viper
Trauma time
pale basalt
is trauma still decent?
I just can't get the hang of it, too used to voidflurry
worn bolt
I just use shock for damn because the cc is invaluable, tried void once but never really liked it so swapped back
gilded viper
It only flak damage that got nerf right? Should still be decent right?
hearty turret
is trauma still decent?
Trauma has the best of both worlds, Has super decent stagger while having crowd clear
worn bolt
It only flak damage that got nerf right? Should still be decent right?
there are a LOT of flak enemies
hearty turret
Surge and purg have 1 or the other
pale basalt
I just use shock for damn because the cc is invaluable, tried void once but neve...
yeah its all about holding down lanes
uneven drift
Nerfs are easy low hanging fruit for lazy developers.
When you don't like the game, the consumers, and are lazy this is the obvious choice instead of putting in the work to improve the other things to make them more attractive as choices.
It's not a competitive game either which just adds to the obvious.
I wish they'd just sell their stupid cosmetic items and leave important stuff alone. Some of the highest people making decisions regarding the game are mad at the player base and it shows.
olive ember
This guy rly bringing the copypasta into psyker chat
uneven drift
Sry, wrong chat.
pale basalt
fuck don't get me started about competition I am still so salty about leader boards
uneven drift
olive ember
Lmao
pale basalt
lack therof
void mural
You can play gun psyker on heresy and lower but if your bringing it on damnation...
I disagree. Maybe some gun psykers are shit, but I watch my ammo, and give ammo priority to vets, and most of the rest of the team over my own when playing gun psyker. It works just fine on difficulty 4, and especially if I need to bring some sniping to a PUG group when matchmaking pairs me with no gunner/specialist killer equipped people
worn bolt
I mean blanacing is important in competitive or in co-op. no one wants to play a game where there is only 1 viable ioption
whole oxide
the idea that you should buff 99 weapons instead of nerfing 1 is beyond stupid
pale basalt
bunch of toxic little fucks talking shit without any evidence, hey can somone link the tracker I've seen some people using? or its name?
olive ember
It’s just hilarious that these were nerf to the flamer which admittedly was OP as shit
gilded viper
So is soulflame even good anymore?
olive ember
But since it’s a flamer it didn’t even hurt that hard since you just hold the button a second longer
ornate hamlet
fuck the vet priority, the ammo goes to whoevers lowest and its me after i missed 17 shots on the dog
olive ember
But it somehow hurts the fucking psyker more since they have an entire kit revolves around dot
worn bolt
wait so flamer took a hit too? I havent played zealot in a while, ngl tho it deserved the nerf. it was beyond broken just liek the stupid fucking power sword
leaden thunder
it's still really strong
olive ember
So is soulflame even good anymore?
It’s good I guess but idk if it’s as good as just voidstrike and trauma bs now tbh
Would have to see how noticeable flak dmg nerf is
still hearth
Derpy did you
gilded viper
Flamer still interacting with ult right? So can they just still use it on flak and win
olive ember
Considering flak damage got cut in half
still hearth
Did you not even test it
worn bolt
honestly just ran a warp battery build instead and skipped over soul flame to go for max dps. works great
still hearth
leaden thunder
I tested it
gilded viper
I mean damage being halved seems pretty relevant for say maulers
still hearth
Yeah with AB ONLY
leaden thunder
even just flak on your weapon it does
olive ember
AB was half the reason you brought purge
still hearth
still hearth
Idk what say
leaden thunder
I think like maybe just base warp unleashed will do it
sleek pebble
"Fixed an issue that allowed the Deimos Mk IV Blaze Force Sword and the Illisi Mk V Blaze Force Sword to block ranged attacks without the Deflector Blessing." Quitting now
still hearth
Purg is literally just flamer with like 30% less damage and slightly less range
void mural
fuck the vet priority, the ammo goes to whoevers lowest and its me after i misse...
For sure, it goes to whoever needs it. I'm just talking about when everyone is at equal levels of ammo
leaden thunder
"Fixed an issue that allowed the Deimos Mk IV Blaze Force Sword and the Illisi M...
oh no
olive ember
Well again people will use it see what they are like and decide for themselves
gilded viper
How is 200 to 100 not halved? Please explain like I’m 5 maybe I’m not understanding
leaden thunder
anyway
gilded viper
Lol
olive ember
How much of purge damage was direct damage again
still hearth
Purg does about 60 DPS with direct flame
olive ember
That’s all we rly need to know to know how much total dmg got screwed
short vessel
Fellas, what do I do with this thing?
short vessel
:/ I like chainswords
leaden thunder
Fellas, what do I do with this thing?
slap rampage in place of rev
olive ember
In all seriousness tho I’m p sure the blessings are bad
cyan notch
Fellas, what do I do with this thing?
swap rev with rampage
still hearth
Fellas, what do I do with this thing?
Take Savage Sweep off and put it on your Zealot
gilded viper
Put rampage > rev
leaden thunder
and flak in place of crit
olive ember
Rev is atleast
gilded viper
And from my knowledge don't chain sword want some cleave blessing?
leaden thunder
yes
olive ember
Is savage sweep BiS?
leaden thunder
yeah
olive ember
Huh tmyk
short vessel
Btw does the whole machine pistol gun psyker think still work after the latest patch?
still hearth
Yes
short vessel
nice, ty
still hearth
They didn't nerf any of the aspects for it
leaden thunder
they did but not enough to kill it, not even close
still hearth
What did they do to Autopistol?
leaden thunder
doesn't you run ab on it?
still hearth
I ran Quicken and Illisi personally
still hearth
With Flayer and Communion to farm stacks
gilded viper
Goofy, but 6 stacks of soulflame will still kill flak if you spam illisi special for that warp unleashed power
feral verge
Here's @vagrant frigate 's shredder build
he carried a hi5 shock troop game i was in with it, a few days ago
gilded viper
Ab over barrage?
olive ember
It’s a weird interaction both work
Basically your F triggers pinning fire and then pinning fire boosts your AB dot damage
gilded viper
Hm
leaden thunder
Goofy, but 6 stacks of soulflame will still kill flak if you spam illisi special...
or if you have flak on your weapon
or almost any damage boost
olive ember
Dunno how good after flak dot dmg got cut in half
But KB is unaffected so worst case scenario just run KB instead
leaden thunder
worse vs elites
late yew
power level does not matter for trinkets right?
gilded viper
Wish I didn't had school rn, want to see how bad flamer is now 
rocky cedar
Can AB still kill flak shooters?
feral verge
Can AB still kill flak shooters?
im gonna test that
leaden thunder
shooters yes
olive ember
Wish I didn't had school rn, want to see how bad flamer is now <a:diescringe:102...
Flamer is wte
Rip Ab tho
Flak stalkers require some kind of power boost
Otherwise they are left on 10 hp
late yew
can you shut up derp
rocky cedar
shooters yes
Just with 6 stacks or also power boosting?
gilded viper
Don't think ab is bad, since we can still use it for horde and dreg
olive ember
Who is the kid again?
gilded viper
Otherwise they are left on 10 hp
olive ember
Lmao funny moment ik
late yew
Which blessings i want on surge again?
And btw
is there any actual point in charging it
since you want stun anyway
and damage is not much
gilded viper
Nexus and fury?
late yew
why have nexus?
olive ember
Who knows
gilded viper
Ummm, crit damage go crazy idk
olive ember
Also @gilded viper how you feel
late yew
I have flurry 4
gilded viper
I'm a filthy gun psyker
late yew
Gotta get nexus
gilded viper
Infernus dot damage got nerfed lmao
late yew
gilded viper
It not dead in my eyes
late yew
I'm a filthy gun psyker
at least you are honest with yourself
olive ember
Yeah now 9 stacks
late yew
What should i replace stamina with btw?
hearty turret
What should i replace stamina with btw?
Crit chance
feral verge
@rocky cedar AB with 6 stacks
